August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18857 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES-Monday, August 4, 1986
The House met at 12 noon. lands in Socorro County, NM, to the New Mr. Speaker, John William Bricker was born The Chaplain, Rev. James David Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. on a farm near Mount Sterling, Madison Ford, D.D., offered the following County, OH, on September 6, 1893. He at prayer: CONSENT CALENDAR tended the county schools and Mount Sterling Bless all those, 0 gracious God, who High School. He graduated from the Ohio labor in this place and who use their The SPEAKER. This is the day for State University at Columbus, A.B., 1916 and gifts and talents in the service of Gov the call of the Consent Calendar. from its law department LLB., 1920, and ernment. May their devotion to their The Clerk will call the eligible bill LLD., 1940. He was admitted to the bar in tasks, their long hours of labor, their on the Consent Calendar. 1917 and commenced practice in Columbus, commitment and concern find appre OH, in 1920. During the First World War, John ciation from those who benefit from JOHN W. BRICKER BUILDING Bricker served as first lieutenant and chaplain their dedication. May each of us in all in the U.S. Army in 1917 and 1918. He was we do, ever seek to do justice, love The Clerk called the bill D This symbol represents the time of day during the House proceedings, e.g., 0 1407 is 2:07 p.m. Matter set in this typeface indicates words inserted or appended, rather than spoken, by a Member of the House on the floor. 18858 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 Mr. RICHARDSON. Mr. Speaker, ment, the horse stays with me until I Well, that's what the House's re only in America would a repressive dic have given you the third lash. And I write of the Higher Education Act tator Daniel Ortega get favorable pub am in no hurry to give you the third would do. licity. As Ortega tries to rally support lash-no hurry at all," and he rode The House bill makes students eligi for his cause, here is one Member of away, leaving the covetous horse ble for all Federal student aid if they Congress who votes against aid to the trader sputtering with rage, and the are citizens, or permanent residents, or Contras, but who is singularly unim town folk chuckling with glee. have received a diploma from an pressed with Mr. Ortega's commitment Mr. Speaker, in spite of the en American secondary school. to peace and democracy. I am sure I treaties of Treasury Secretary Baker, Since our secondary schools are am not alone. the latter-day German and Japanese under court order to educate children I would like to see Mr. Ortega out of "Eulenspiegels" refuse to administer of illegal aliens, and since many other office by the ballot box, but not by the third whack to the dollar, and so foreign students in scholarship and ex force, and not by the Contras. The the chance to export what Uncle Sam change programs receive U.S. diplo prospects for this are dim, because in has been promised remains a dream. mas, there could be large numbers of Nicaragua the ballot box is a form of The moral for the Secretary is that it aliens qualifying for taxpayer-fi electoral freedom that is not terribly takes more than covetousness and nanced grants and loans. important. masochism to develop export markets. Mr. Speaker, this is ridiculous? The And while we chastise repressive Above all, it takes a dollar with a fixed U.S. taxpayer should not be forced to right-wing dictators like Pinochet in gold content which cannot be send illegal aliens to college! We must Chile and Botha in South Africa, let whacked, abused, and ridiculed by any get rid of this provision! us not forget the left-wing despots like body with impunity, in plain view of The Higher Education reauthoriza Ortega and Fidel Castro. Recently an the whole world. tion is already in conference with the account came out of Cuba by a politi Senate. As a member of the confer cal prisoner named Valladares who ence committee, I'm going to fight for spoke about Castro's torture chambers LET US NOT COLLECT MONEY the interests of the taxpayers. and repression. If his accounts are cor ON PHONY ISSUES rect, Castro makes all despots look like 71--059 0-87-32 (Pt. 13) 18860 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 might be contrary to State laws regu not require expanded coverage for nurses who are qualified health care lating the practice of health care. health services. I realize that some op providers to be viewed as credible and Following the President's veto, Con ponents of this bill have charged oth economic participants in our changing gress responded with further action on erwise. In addition, opponents have health care system, eligible in their the direct access issue. First, we en implied that expanding access to non own right to be reimbursed for provid acted Public Law 99-251, directing the physician providers will raise costs or ing health care services. Office of Personnel Management lower the quality of health care. In summary, direct reimbursement: [OPMJ to study the feasibility of Clearly, the public hearing record, First, provides for consumer choice of direct reimbursement for nonphysi the CBO report, the OPM report, and health care provider and services best cian providers and report to Congress other documentation supporting this suited for his/her health care needs; no later than April 1. legislation indicate otherwise. By pass Second, provides for greater access of In its study, the OPM reported that ing H.R. 4825 today, we will increase the consumer to health care promot it independently encourages FEHBP freedom of choice for FEHBP enroll ing prevention and early detection and insurance carriers to allow direct ees and broaden their access to quality treatment, thus reducing more expen access to a variety of qualified health health care, without raising costs. This sive care associated with late diagnosis care providers. Currently, a number of bill represents an important improve and hospitalization; and third, pro FEHBP plans already permit such ment in the Federal Health Insurance vides high quality cost-effective alter access to nurse-midwives, clinical Program, especially in medically un natives in health care to the consumer social workers, chiropractors, and derserved areas, where insufficient and the insurer. other providers. Furthermore, the access and choice have threatened the Accordingly, I urge my colleagues to OPM study noted the successes of the quality of health care. fully support this legislation. medically underserved areas experi In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, this leg Mr. Speaker, I have no further re ment, in which direct access to non islation has been developed very care quests for time, and I yield back the physician providers was guaranteed. fully to expand freedom of choice and This program was important for assur promote cost effectiveness while pro balance of my time. ing that quality health care would be tecting the quality of health care. A Ms. OAKAR. Mr. Speaker, I yield available in medically underserved clear public record supports this initia myself such time as I may consume. areas. OPM concluded that, based on tive. The role of' States in regulating Mr. Speaker, I simply wanted to add this experiment, direct access would health care standards and practices is that I would like to pay my respect not increase program costs. respectfully recognized. H.R. 4825 has and gratitude to the gentleman from Second, the Subcommittee on Com strong bipartisan support. I encourage Mississippi, Mr. MONTGOMERY, and the pensation and Employee Benefits, my colleagues to vote "yes" for this gentleman from Arkansas, Mr. JOHN which I chair, held hearings on direct important reform. PAUL HAMMERSCHMIDT, who were due access and the OPM report. Witnesses to be recognized first but out of cour representing physician and nonphysi 0 1220 tesy to the gentleman from New York cian providers testified on a direct Mr. Speaker, I reserve the balance of Mr. GILMAN, and myself allowed us to access policy under the FEHBP. my time. precede them only on this bill. We All witnesses agreed that a Federal Mr. GILMAN. Mr. Speaker, I yield want to thank them very, very much. law should not conflict with State myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Speaker, I think it is a great statutes licensing health care provid Mr. Speaker, I rise in support of H.R. hallmark with the passage of this leg ers and regulating the practice of med 4825, legislation to amend title 5, Unit islation that we give access to all Fed icine. These laws protect the quality of ed States Code, to provide authority for eral employees, to all the different health care by ensuring that providers the direct payment or reimbursement types of licensed health practitioners. practice according to accepted guide of certain health care professionals; to When we do this, I think we are going lines and meet professional standards. clarify existing law with respect to co to maintain the quality care that we As a result of this testimony, I in ordination with State and local law; would like to have with respect to all cluded language in H.R. 4825 which re and for other purposes and I commend Americans and at the same time possi states and strengthens current policy the gentlewoman from Ohio for her bly lower the cost. I think that is what that Federal law governing the leadership and sponsorship of this vital it is all about. What we are saying FEHBP shall not override State or measure. today is that we respect all the health local laws which relate to the licensing With the current emphasis on cost providers of this country, whether or certification to practice medicine, effective health care, consumer rights they are physicians or people in the nursing, or another health profession. and improved delivery of health serv social work area or, in particular, some FEHBP insurance plans may not, ices, direct reimbursement for certain of my favorite people, the nurses. however, impose their own require health care practitioners becomes an Mr. Speaker. I yield back the bal ments on practitioners in addition to important consideration for consumers ance of my time. those mandated by law. To do so re and health care systems alike. The SPEAKER pro tempore Increase an amount bearing the same ratio to the of March 1, 1986 through September 30, (monthly rate) amount specified below as the degree of dis 1986. These included housing benefits for ability bears to total disability. For example, wheelchair homes, the burial allowance pay From To a veteran who is 50 percent disabled receives able for veterans who die of service-connect 50 percent of the amounts which appear ed causes, the automobile and adaptive Higher statutory awards for certain multiple disabilities: (K) (I) Additional monthly payment for anatomical below. equipment allowance for veterans with serv loss, or loss of use of, any of these organs: One ice-connected amputations, vocational train foot, one hand, blindness in one eye (having light ing for veterans with service-connected dis perception only), one or more creative organs, both Increase buttocks, organic aphonia (with constant inability to (monthly rate) abilities which produce pronounced voca communicate by speech). deafness of both ears tional handicaps, and the educational pro (having absence of air and bone conduction )--For From To each loss...... 62 63 gram for dependents of totally disabled (2) Limit for veterans receiving payments under (A) If and while veteran is rated totally disabled and: service-connected veterans and survivors of to (J) above ...... 1,659 1,692 Has a spouse...... $81 $83 those veterans who die of service-connected (3) Limit for veterans receiving benefits under (l) Has a spouse and child ...... 136 139 (N) 2,325 2,372 causes. The committee believes that these to below ...... Has no spouse, one child ...... 56 57 programs, which are only available to veter (l) Anatomical loss or loss of use of both feet, one for each additional child ...... 43 44 foot and one hand, blindness in both eyes ( 5/200 ans with service-connected disabilities or to visual acuity or less). permanently bedridden or so For each dfP.endent parent...... :························· 56 57 For eac~ child age 18- 22 attending school...... 124 126 their spouses or children, are an integral helpless as to require aid and attendance ...... 1,659 1.692 Has a spouse in nursing home or severely disabled ...... 14 7 150 (M) Anatomical loss or loss of use of both hand, or of part of the compensation which a grateful both legs, at a level preventing natural knee action Nation makes available to these individuals. with prosthesis in place or of one arm and one leg at a level preventing natural knee or elbow action The iollowing increases are provided for They should be afforded the same protec with prosthesis in place or blind in both eyes, either surviving spouses of deceased veterans tion against across-the-board cuts which was with light perception only or rendering veteran so whose deaths are service-connected and who given to the underlying compensation bene helpless as to require aid and attendance ...... 1.829 1.866 fit. Per~r~~~~~ disability or subsection under which payment is are receiving dependency and indemnity compensation CDICJ payments. The sequestration order also created a (Nl Anatomical loss of both eyes or blindness with no ceiling, imposed for the first time by that light perception or loss of use of both arms at a sequestration order, limiting VA home loan level preventing natural elbow action with prosthesis Pay grade From To in place or anatomical loss of both legs so near hip commitments. As a result of the improving as to prevent use of prosthesis, or anatomical loss of economy and the lowering of interest rates one arm and one leg so near shoulder and hip to E-1...... $491 $501 2,080 2,122 E- 2...... 505 515 which produced an unprecedented increase (or~~~il~~ i~os~~it~oris ..e.riWiffrii .ve.ielaris ..iO .!Wii .. E- 3...... 518 528 in VA home loans, the agency twice this cal or more of the rates provided in ( L) through (N) , E-4 ...... :...... 552 563 endar year faced a shutdown of the Home no condition being considered twice in the determina E- 5...... 566 577 tion, or deafness rated at 60 percent or more E-6 578 590 Loan Program. Each time, the Congress ap (impairment of either of both ears service-connected) H .. 607 619 proved legisl~tion to increase the ceiling to in combination with total blindness (5/200 visual E- 8...... 640 653 permit the program to continue operation. acuity or less) or deafness rated at 40 percent or E- 9... ··········· ··· ············· ...... I 669 I 682 total deafness in one ear (impairment of either or W-1 621 633 The committee has concluded that the se both ears service-connected) in combination with W- 2 ...... 645 658 questration process should not apply to the blindness having light perception only or anatomical W-3 664 677 VA Home Loan Programs since loan guaran loss of both arms so near the shoulder as to prevent W- 4 703 717 tees require no direct Federal outlays. A re 2,325 2,372 0- 1 ································ 621 633 (p)( 1)f Ft~~t%~ies··exceeii""ie 71-059 0-87-33 (Pt. 13) 18892 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 Her valued friendship, counsel, and Denied the request of $117.7 million RESERVE COMPONENTS strong advocacy for national defense for the Aquila RPV Program; and In terms of National Guard/Reserve . will be sorely missed. Also, I want to Deferred the request for Joint Stars initiatives, in addition to approving thank the other members of the sub ground terminals, thus saving $63.4 most of the requested items, the com committee for their work and contri million. mittee is recommending some $509.1 bution. NAVY million in new authorization and ear As you can appreciate, our job this In the Navy, the committee took the marking major equipment for the year was not an easy one. Based on following major actions: Guard and Reserve. The equipment is the committee's guidance, the $95.8 Reduced requested FA-18 procure designed to strengthen readiness, sus billion procurement request had been ment from 120 to 96 aircraft and ad tainability, and combat support. reduced by some 14.6 percent. justed the FA-18 advance procure As Chairman BENNETT noted, the ment from 132 to 102 aircraft for next LEGISLATIVE PROVISIONS $16.9 billion seapower portion of the year for a savings of $565.5 million; Language items include: procurement request has been reduced Denied the request for nine P-3C Authorization of 2 multiyear con by some $2.5 billion. The remaining Orion ASW patrol aircraft for a sav tract requests, provided at least 12-per $78.8 billion procurement request that ings of $312.4 million; and cent savings are realized and options is under the Procurement Subcommit Reduced the E-6A TACAMO request are negotiated for the Patriot and tee has been reduced by $11.5 billion. from 3 to 1 aircraft for a savings of Stinger missile systems. All told, procurement has been cut by $227. 7 million. Mr. Chairman, this concludes my $14 billion, the largest cut ever made statement. The committee's action on to the Defense procurement request AIR FORCE the procurement request represents a by the committee. In the Air Force, the committee took balanced and equitable approach In making this massive reduction, we the following major actions: toward meeting our objectives. I urge attempted to support existing pro Approved 12 of the 21 MX missiles the House to support the committee's grams, maintain the balance between requested for savings of $300 million; recommendations. strategic and conventional programs, Recommended procurement of 135 and protect readiness and sustainabil or 260 AMRAAM missiles; established D 1350 ity. New program starts and ramp ups a program cost cap of $7.0 billion in fiscal year 1984 dollars for 24,000 mis Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Chairman, have been deferred, programs have I yield myself such time as I may con been reduced that have execution siles and restricted obligation of funds problems or raise policy concerns and until flight test data demonstrates the sume. Mr. Chairman, I would like to financing adjustments have been missile's performance and design sta make a few comments in general about made. bility; this year's Defense authorization bill, As a result, Army procurement pro Reduced the F-15E request of 48 air as well as some particular comments grams have been cut by $2.4 billion, craft to 36 and required the Secretary concerning the operations and mainte Navy and Marine Corps programs of the Air Force to make a decision on nance area contained in title III. other than seapower reduced by $2.2 whether to buy the F-15E or the ad Let me begin by reemphasizing a billion, Air Force programs cut by $7 .3 vanced tactical fighter; point which I'm sure most of my col billion, and Defense Agencies reduced Adjusted the production rate of F- leagues understand concerning this by some $82 million. Admittedly, if 16's to 180 aircraft as compared to the year's Defense authorization bill. H.R. budgetary conditions were different, request for 216 and restricted obliga 4428 as reported by the Armed Serv some of these cuts would not have tion of funds until a DOD decision is ices Committee is $28 billion below the been made. In all likelihood, they will made on the acquisition plan for the $320 billion requested by the adminis produce production inefficiencies and F-16; tration. If I'm not mistaken, that's the added costs in the long run. Authorized $200 million in prior year largest reduction our committee has In terms of major program actions, unobligated funds for a strategic ever made to an administration's De the committee is recommending the bomber contingency fund that could fense request. following for the Army: be used for long lead components for Circumstances we all understand A reduction of $523 million in air continuation of the Bl-B program; de and appreciate loom large in the back craft procurement, primarily through velopment of alternative sources for ground. The need to reduce the Feder contract savings, prior year adjust the ATB; or rescinded; al deficit and to get our financial ments and reductions to the AH-64 Approved $180 million for the C-17 house in order has never been as criti and AHIP helicopter programs. airlift aircraft program, but restricted cal as it is today. And which of us can Under Army weapons and tracked obligation of the funds until the com forget the cloud of Gramm-Rudman combat vehicles, the committee recom mittee receives the General Account Hollings as it hangs over every piece of mends: ing Office report on the program; and legislation which contains funding au Authorization of $830 million to pur Recommended 12 T-46A trainer air thorization or appropriation? chase 593 Bradley fighting vehicles-a craft; but required the program to be I want to assure my fell ow Members reduction of 277 vehicles or almost recompeted if the cost cap is breached. of this House that our committee was $300 million from the budget request. CHEMICAL WEAPONS very keenly aware of today's budget The committee also recommends de For chemical weapons, the commit realities as we went about the business ferral of the proposed modifications to tee is recommending $58.3 million for of crafting the bill under consider the Bradley until completion of the the 155-mm artillery round and $10 ation today. I also want to remind my live-fire testing. Section 121 of the bill million for the Bigeye bomb. The colleagues that our committee, per establishes a set of detailed require funds for the Bigeye may not be obli haps more so than most, is also very ments for the development of the test gated until all operational tests are keenly aware of the national security plan and the conduct of the live-fire concluded, the tests monitored by the factors which drive the requirements testing program. The Secretary of De General Accounting Office and the behind this bill. I believe it's a good fense is required to certify the suit performance of the system certified. bill and one that will not only help to ability and realism of the test plan. In addition, the Secretary of Defense maintain a strong national defense, The committee recommends three is directed to study the military advan but that will also allow a substantial major changes in Army other procure tages of Bigeye as compared to long defense contribution to reducing the ment as follows: range standoff weapons. deficit problem and keep us on that Denied the request of $204 million In addition $120.1 million was au road to getting our financial house in for the SINCGARS Program; thorized for chemical demilitarization. order. August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18893 I'd like to turn to an area of the bill This brings me to an important make sure that the final outcome is a which I consider to be extremely im point which I want to stress as we Defense authorization bill that will portant-if not the most important. begin consideration of this year's De strengthen our national defense pro Title III of division A contains the au fense authorization bill. Many of us gram, maintain critical readiness, and thorization details for the operation can remember the long and tortuous keep us the great Nation we are. and maintenance account, as well as discussions in this body during the My fell ow colleagues, I urge your for the working capital funds. You late 1970's regarding the so-called support for H.R. 4428. may be more familiar with that par hollow Army. We should never forget ticular area of the DOD budget under that there was a period when some of Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I its more common name-"readiness." our ships could not put out to sea be yield 9 minutes to the gentleman from Last year, I discussed our commit cause of a shortage of personnel or a Mississippi [Mr. MONTGOMERY], other tee's deliberate efforts to protect the lack of repair parts, that many of our wise known as General MONTGOMERY. O&M or readiness account. We have troops were severely handicapped be used a similar approach in marking cause they lacked equipment and am 0 1400 our bill this year. The $82.8 billion munition, and that some of our air Mr. MONTGOMERY. Mr. Chair that the committee is recommending craft sat on runways instead of flying man, I thank the gentleman for yield for operation and maintenance is a sig their training missions because of fuel ing time to me. nificant reduction from the Presi shortages. Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentle dent's request of $86.5 billion. Even Fortunately, those lamentable times man for the kind remarks that he though almost every member of our are largely behind us. But you know, committee acknowledges the need to made about the Reserves and National my fell ow colleagues, I have the Guard, and also the gentlewoman protect readiness, we were still forced uneasy feeling that we may yet face to make a $3.7 billion O&M reduction from Maryland [Mrs. HOLT], whom I similar situations. Just a moment ago I see on the floor today. The gentleman as part of the overall reduction to the made some very positive-and accurate defense request. There was simply no from Virginia [Mr. WHITEHURST] will I believe-remarks about the current certainly be missed. It will be his last other logical and reasonable way to state of readiness in our Armed structure an authorization bill that time of helping handle the authoriza Forces. Why then is Whitehurst tion bill, and I thank the gentleman would comply with the defense budget uneasy you might ask? authority figure included in the for the happy times and good times I'll tell you why. During the Readi that we have had working together. Budget Resolution guidance. ness Subcommittee's hearings this Mr. Chairman, during one of our past spring, we began to hear rum Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of Readiness Subcommittee hearings in this legislation, and will do what I can blings of a problem that is only today to implement the committee report early 1985, I shared a story with my beginning to come into focus. As fiscal subcommittee colleagues. I'd like to year 1986 begins to draw to a close, the that came out on the bill. repeat that story again today. As you full impact of the first round of In our committee I try, Mr. Chair may know it is said that Gen. George Gramm-Rudman-Hollings defense cuts man, to concentrate on certain areas Washington seldom indulged in a joke is being felt. While cuts in procure personnel matters of the military, the or sarcasm, but when he did, he ment are obvious right up front, the National Guard and Reserves, and always made a hit. It has been related effects in the world of operation and military construction. In this bill, let that he was present in Congress maintenance take longer to be felt. me say, personally, that we have had during the debate on the establish some successes, and we have had some ment of the Federal Army when a Without going into the detailed me disappointments. Member offered a resolution limiting chanics of how one account works the Army to 3,000 men. Upon hearing versus another account, let me give First, let me talk about the disap this, Washington suggested to another you a couple of quick examples. I re pointments of the armed services bill. Member that he offer an amendment cently learned that one way many unit Some Members here today, for exam providing that no enemy should ever and installation commanders are being ple, Mrs. HOLT, know about this disap invade the country with more than forced to deal with O&M cuts is by pointment about the availability of 2,000 soldiers. drawing down on supply inventories. health care personnel on the battle Sometimes, Mr. Chairman, I wish Not serious at this point, but poten field for our young men that would be the Congress really could legislate the tially disastrous if continued over a called up-we really do not have the parameters of war. Unfortunately, we long run. Important maintenance and health care professionals to take care can't. And, therefore, it is in our decid overhaul work is being deferred until of these young people. It has been ed best interest to be as ready as we next fiscal year. Again, not serious at pointed out by a House committee can be for any eventuality. The readi this point, but that procedure will in report that only 3 out of 10 Americans ness of our Armed Forces is the key to evitably lead to the kind of mainte who would be wounded in a battle in winning in any conflict. But more im nance backlogs which it has taken us Europe would get proper medical care. portantly, readiness is also the key to the last 6 years or so to eliminate. I introduced legislation that would an effective deterrence. Some kinds of less critical training are require certain health-care profession I know each of us understands that being curtailed. No serious impact yet, als to register with the Selective Serv our military services have made tre but that is a dangerous trend which ice System. This passed the subcom mendous strides in their levels of read should be stopped as soon as possible. mittee, but it took a pretty heavy iness in the last several years. Our These examples represent the first in defeat in the full committee. Certain country has the best trained, best roads to the proper state of readiness health-care groups oppose this legisla equipped, best supported, and bright which we all know must not be al tion. They know who they are. Mrs. est young men and women in the mili lowed to deteriorate. HOLT felt very strongly about it. We tary that we have ever had. The equip H.R. 4428 is a good bill-not perfect have talked to people on the commit ment and support facilities that we in and not as good in some areas as each tee. We hope to have hearings in the the Congress have authorized and of us would like. However, given the next few months to strengthen our funded is the best that modern tech budget constraints of these days and health-care professionals. nology can provide. Each of us should times, it is a bill worthy of your sup If we have a shortage in personnel, be confident ih telling our constituents port. I hope each of us listens and par Mr. Chairman, it is in health-care pro that our Armed Forces are ready, will ticipates in the debate and discussion fessionals. We do not have the doctors, ing, and able to carry out their as on the bill. And if we must disagree on nurses, and other professionals to take signed missions. some points, so be it. But let's also care of our military. Let us face it, the 18894 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 health-car professionals in the Active The Army reported to us that it is ment Subcommittee, I want to add my Forces now are geared to take care of their bread and butter for keeping up views to those expressed by the sub retirees, and they are geared to take their strength levels in the Army; 85 committee chairman regarding the ac care of dependents. This is a serious percent of the new persons, men and tions recommended for defense pro situation. It should be corrected, and I women, coming into the Army Active curement in fiscal year 1987. hope that we can come up with some Forces are signing up for the new GI First, I want to thank my colleague, thing that will help solve this prob bill. the gentleman from New York [Mr. lem. Mr. Chairman, let me talk about TRIMIS. What is TRIMIS? It is the STRATTON], for the cooperation and On commissary privileges for the support that he has given me through National Guard and Reserves, there Tri-Service Medical Information System. You say, why do you even the years. I, certainly, also want to was also a disappointment. I had an thank the gentleman from Mississippi amendment that was defeated in the bring it up? What it means is that the services will be putting all their pa [Mr. MONTGOMERY] for his kind words Subcommittee on Readiness that and for the leadership that he has would give reservists the privilege tient medical records in their hospitals and clinics on computers. We bring it provided. I know of no more dedicated and their families-of going to com Member. He has almost singlehanded missaries once each month, and spread up because the Defense Department is getting ready to waste about $2 billion, ly, in the 14 years that I have been on it over a 12-month period. The Nation the committee, provided the improve al Guard and Reserves do have com and our committee is concerned about that. The General Accounting Office ment that we have seen in capability missary privileges now, but they can in the Guard and Reserve. only use these privileges when they is concerned about it. are on their active duty for training. I What we are trying to get the De We plan to hold hearings in Septem would hope that we would take an fense Department to do is to look at ber and October to try to find the an other look at this situation. the Veterans' Administration's com swers to the health-care shortfall puter systems. They have software in which the gentleman from Mississippi Thanks to Mr. STRATTON and also to the VA that they will give to the De Mrs. HOLT and other members of the has sought so sincerely to correct. fense Department. The Defense De I also want to thank the other mem Procurement Subcommittee, we made partment is looking at a Cadillac when great strides in getting better equip bers of the subcommittee and the out they may only need a Ford or a Chev standing staff for all their efforts as ment to the National Guard and Re rolet as far as computer systems are serves. Our committee has really done well. I genuinely value and will surely concerned. miss my association with this great it along with the help of the Commit It would be shameful if they move tee on Appropriations of the House. ahead and implement these very ex committee. We still have not gone far enough, and pensive computer systems when we are As the gentleman from Virginia said, the Defense Department must request ready to give it to them from the VA this is turning out to be a very, very more for reservists on equipment. system. difficult year for defense procurement, We are getting less than 5 percent Let me shift gears to medical care and I just want to make a couple of for 1987 for equipment for the Nation sharing agreements between the Vet points in that regard. I certainly al Guard and Reserves. We are getting erans' Administration and military regret the fiscal environment that has less than 7 percent of the total fund hospitals. We have a law passed 5 imposed unprecedented reductions for ing for military construction. Working years ago to share equipment and defense. I think that we are cutting with Mr. DELLUMS and Mr. KRAMER on other medical resources. Thus, mili too far and too fast for a reasoned and the Subcommittee on Military Con tary patients can go into the Veterans' sound defense. Second, in my opinion, struction, we have an amendment in Administration hospitals, and vice the committee recommendation does this bill that says 10 percent of all versa. It saves a lot of money for the not reflect what is needed for defense. military construction that comes out taxpayers and we are also getting We all know what the threat is, and to in 1988 will have to be earmarked for better care for our patients, both in settle for any less than is necessary is the Reserves and National Guard. the VA system and also in the mili certainly shortsighted in my view. Talking about the pluses in the bill, tary. In fact, in New Mexico, rather Mr. Chairman, I want to mention the than construct a new facility, the Air 0 1410 3-percent pay raise for military per Force will share the Veterans' Admin sonnel. There is modest growth in end istration Hospital for the first time. It Instead, our recommendation repre strengths for the reservists. The De is working well. sents as equitable and balanced a package as we could put together, fense Department is doing the right In closing, let me say that there is thing in turning more missions over to given the unrealistic fiscal restraints some research money in the bill to be and competing priorities and interests. the National Guard and Reserves. transferred from the military the Vet Having more of these missions go to erans' Administration. There is a Finally, although there is no binding the Reserves is a good buy for the tax shortage of doctors, nurses, and re requirement to do so, we have made payers. search people in the Army and mili the tough decisions necessary to Let me talk briefly about a subject tary hospitals. There is not a shortage comply with the budget authority that my colleagues know I am familiar in the VA. guidance provided us. with-the new GI bill. In effect, Mr. We are going to transfer some Mr. Chairman, I ask the House to Chairman, it should be said here today money in this bill that would give the support the committee recommenda that the new GI bill has saved the All VA the opportunity to look at gunshot tion and to resist proposals that would Volunteer Force. In the shortage of wounds, to look at prosthetics, to look reduce the fiscal year 1987 defense personnel that we are now beginning at blood transfusions that will help program further. to face of high quality young men and the military at a later date. Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I yield 10 minutes to the gentleman women to serve in the Armed Forces, As a whole, Mr. Chairman, I think the new GI bill has filled the gap. It is from California [Mr. DELLUMS]. working so well. that this is a workable bill, and I cer Mr. DELLUMS. Mr. Chairman, I Members of the House should take tainly rise in support of it. thank my distinguished colleague for credit for this. They voted for the new Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Chairman, yielding me this time. GI bill on several occasions, and it was I yield 5 minutes to the gentlewoman Mr. Chairman, today the Committee a unanimous vote. The new GI bill is from Maryland [Mrs. HOLT] . on Armed Services brings to the floor going to both Active Forces and to the Mrs. HOLT. Mr. Chairman, as the H.R. 4428, the National Defense Au Reserves. ranking Republican on the Procure- thorization bill for fiscal year 1987. Di- August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18895 vision B of H.R. 4428 would provide however, I have included in my state Mr. Chairman, I would now move to $8.6 billion in military construction ment a summary of those actions the second part of my responsibility in authorization and related authority in which are more fully explained in the my capacity as chairperson of the Sub support of the military departments, committee report. committee on Military Installations the Defense agencies, the ,reserve com and Facilities. ponents, and the NATO Infrastructure · [In thousands of dollars] Mr. Chairman, today the Committee Program. on Armed Services brings to the House Before I proceed, Mr. Chairman, I Fiscal year r.ommittee Total H.R. 4428, the National Defense Au want to express my deep appreciation Military department 1987 budget approved by request changes committee thorization Act for fiscal year 1987. to my distinguished colleague from Title III of Division C would authorize Colorado, Mr. KRAMER, the ranking Army ...... 3,445,216 432,156 3,313,060 $126.6 million to carry out the provi Republican member of the Subcom 2,588,293 377,610 2,210,683 ~~~orce ::::::::::: : :: : ::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : :: 2,563,229 356,789 2,206,440 sions of the Federal Civil Defense Act mittee on Military Installations and Del. {1ency ..... 692,200 175,797 516,403 of 1950. Facilities, for his leadership and assist NATO nlra ...... 247,000 0 247,000 The Federal Emergency Manage ance during extensive hearings on the Guard/Reserve ... 451.200 0 451 ,200 Total 9,987,138 1,342,352 ment Agency requested authorization military construction portion of the 8,644.786 of $126.6 million for civil defense for legislation before this body today. fiscal year 1987. On June 24, 1986 the Also, I would like to thank all the Some of the major reductions made Committee on Armed Services unani other members of the Subcommittee by the committee included: A $232 mil mously approved the full amount re on Military Installations and Facilities lion from the $502 million request for quested. for their extraordinary diligence, par facilities in Alaska and Fort Drum, NY To put the committee's action in ticularly at a time when we face severe in support of the Army's newly cre perspective, it should be noted that budgetary constraints and difficult ated light infantry divisions. The com compared to the enacted fiscal year choices. The 16 members of the sub mittee questioned both the require 1986 appropriation of $130 million, the committee deserve public commenda ment for and the cost of stationing a administration's budget request of tion for their courageous decision not light infantry division in Alaska. to approve any unbudgeted items for $126.6 million represents a reduction A $133 million reduction from the of 3 percent. fiscal year 1987. It was a difficult $187 million requested for the first 2 choice, but they stood tall and held of the Navy's proposed 13· homeports The fiscal year 1987 budget request, the line in the face of tremendous for the Strategic Homeporting Pro as submitted and approved, would pressure from both colleagues and gram; the committee approved $54.4 maintain the status quo pending final constituents. Because of their hard million of the $92 million requested action within the administration on a work, the legislation before you today for construction at Staten Island, NY. review of civil defense policies, objec represents a balanced effort to meet The entire $95.4 million requested for tives, and programs which was man both the fiscal constraints that face us Everett, WA was deferred because of dated by the fiscal year 1986 confer and to respond to the most pressing unresolved environmental problems, ence report on the Defense Authoriza construction requirements of the mili uncertainties about financial commit tion Act. A portion of the report on tary departments. ments to the program by the State the review was received by the com For the benefit of the members, I and local governments, and questions mittee on July 7, 1986; however, the would like to briefly review the devel about the estimated cost of defense national security decision directive, opment of this legislation. The Secre access roads. which is the President's policy direc tary of Defense requested new author A $23.6 million reduction in the tive on future civil defense programs, ization for military construction and family housing utilities account to re was not included in the package and is family housing in the amount of $10 flect anticipated fuel savings; still under review within the executive billion for fiscal year 1987. On June 24 $72.4 million reductions for the first branch. Currently, there is no clear in and July 24, 1986, the Committee on phase of a new $300 million naval base dication of when the policy directive Armed Services approved by voice vote the Navy proposes to build at Naples, will be approved by the President and the legislation before you today which Italy. made available to the Congress. provides $8.6 billion in authorization And finally, the committee approved For this reason, the committee rec for the new fiscal year. This amount is the following general provisions: ommends the approval of $126.6 mil $1.3 billion or about 16 percent below Three fair market value land ex lion which would provide no-growth in the President's budget request and changes, one land conveyance, and one the civil defense function for fiscal meets the requirements of the first land easement; year 1987. concurrent budget resolution. A provision authorizing the use of Mr. Chairman, in the few remaining To achieve the necessary reductions, $200,000 in planning and design funds moments I have I would like to ad the committee agreed to defer all for community planning at Fort dress a couple of other issues. I have projects where there was not a clear Drum, NY: now discharged my responsibilities as requirement in fiscal year 1987 be A provision authorizing private de the chairperson of the subcommittee cause of low design, cancelled or modi velopment on Navy-owned land in San bringing the military construction fied mission requirements, and ques Diego, CA in exchange for free or budget to the floor. tionable scope and/ or cost estimates. below market value administrative I am also a Member that represents The committee also deferred all new space; and the Eighth Congressional District in starts unless there was a clear require A provision prohibiting the obliga California. In that regard, I would like ment to meet national defense needs. tion or expenditure of NATO infra to alert my distinguished colleagues Additional projects that otherwise met structure funds in fiscal year 1988 that during the course of the debate I all the criteria for inclusion in the unless the Secretary of Defense sub will be bringing a number of amend budget request were deferred because mits a comprehensive 5-year master ments to the floor. of budget constraints. plan for acquisition of air and ground First of all, I will offer an amend Furthermore, in a sharp departure defense for U.S. bases in Europe. ment, Mr. Chairman, that would from past years, the subcommittee Mr. Chairman, the Committee on delete all Department of Defense denied all requests to add unbudgeted Armed Services believes that the mili funds for the strategic defense initia projects to the bill. tary construction authorization con tive, a program that we euphemistical In the interest of time, I will not tained in H.R. 4428 represents a bal ly refer to as star wars. That would detail the individual actions taken by anced program that deserves favorable delete all funds for the SDI testing the committee. For your convenience, consideration by the House. and demonstration program. 18896 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 It is the considered op1mon of this Mr. Chairman, I would like to spend would have to target the same number gentleman that strategic defense initi a couple of minutes talking about the of square miles. It is called the barrage ative is an unnecessary and dangerous bill; in particular some of the work of attack. development that we do not need, and the House Committee on Armed Serv Some would argue that a three-war at the apropriate point I will be at ices. Some of the things I may agree head heavier missile could act as the tempting to make as cogent an argu with, some of the things I really do same deterrent, would confuse the So ment as I can in support of that posi not agree with. viets as much, would require the same tion. It has been a difficult year because degree of Soviet effort for striking Second, Mr. Chairman, I would like we have cut more from the request that missile if you had about one-third to point out that along with my distin this year than any other year that I the number and three warheads guished colleague, the gentlewoman can remember in almost 8 years in the rather than one. from Colorado [Mrs. SCHROEDER], she House of Representatives, and I think, Regrettably, the Committee on and I will offer an amendment that going back looking at the history Armed Services, the R&D committee proposes an alternative military books, we have cut more in the request and the full committee, took the posi budget with budget authority of of this administration in the authori tion that we do not want to delay for 1 $255.4 billion and outlays of $265 bil zation for the Department of Defense month or for 6 months or 9 months lion in fiscal year 1987. than any other administration since the research and development and the beginning of this country. testing in this small missile in order to 0 1420 It was a difficult thing to do, and I give us that valuable information. think an unfortunate thing that we I think that was a mistake; I think The amendments have numerous had to do. changes, make numerous changes in First of all, I would like to focus we need the information because if we defense spending, and I would not go Members' attention on the small inter find out, pursuant to the studies, that into those specifics. At the appropriate continental ballistic missile, SICBM, a two-warhead or a three-warhead point during the debate, we will at the small mobile, single-warhead mis mobile missile will give us the same tempt to assert our concerns. sile that we have been working on. type of deterrence and the same level The point there is simply that if we There is a request which is in the bill of survivability as a single-warhead begin to address the policies upon which I don't disagree with; in fact, missile, we would be saving approxi which our military budget is based, disagree with, and that is to increase mately $18 to $20 billion. I think it is that we can move away from such a the permissible weight of this mobile important to keep those numbers in heavy reliance on militarism to prop single-warhead missile from 33,000 mind because we are so interested in up our role in the world and certainly pounds to 37,000 pounds. saving dollars. no need to spend nearly $300 billion in As everybody will recall, last year So, I thought it was a mistake not that regard. this Congress put a limit on the level delaying the small Midgetman missile Mr. Chairman, I would simply like to or the weight of that particular mis just a few months in order to get the point out that in addition to the sile; the theory being that if it gets too results back of that particular study. amendment on star wars and the sub heavy, it will be difficult being mobile Also, I thought there was a particu stitute that my distinguished col and therefore do not make it too lar nefarious amendment that was league and I will be providing, I would heavy. placed in the research and develop also, along with the gentlewoman So, we restricted its weight to 33,000 ment subcommittee with respect to from Colorado [Mrs. SCHROEDER] and pounds and then upon further obser the linkage of the small mobile missile the gentleman from Pennsylvania vation, analysis and research, we with the 10-warhead silo-based, fixed [Mr. GRAY] will be offering, finally, an found out that with the increasing base MX missile. amendment to bar payment of any spread and deployment of Soviet de As everybody knows, there was a lot funds authorized by the bill to firms fensive systems, it will be impossible of effort in the past number of years, or groups that conduct any business for this single-warhead missile to be more debate than we would like to with either the South African Govern able to penetrate Soviet air space, and think about and remember, about the ment or any business establishment in therefore have any capability of deter possibility of us having finally a South Africa. ring conflict, unless there are counter modernized, land-based leg of our Mr. Chairman, to bring an end to measures put on it; unless there are triad. President after President tried; apartheid in South Africa is one of the some penetration aids, so to speak. this body successful in the past couple great moral issues of our time. It So, we decided to increase its permis of years, decided to go ahead and au would seem to me that those of us who sible weight from 33,000 to 37 ,000 thorize money for the development of feel strongly have a responsibility to pounds to allow the placing of pene 50 MX missiles. raise this issue on every appropriate tration aids, which I support. The amendment in the R&S sub vehicle that we can. There was also another interesting committee which was approved by the The Federal largesse of this country debate in the Research and Develop full committee reduced, in essence, the that goes forward as contracts to ment Subcommittee and in the full 10 or the 50 MX missiles that we final many of our corporations should be committee on the single-warhead ly got through this Congress, down to limited in their capacity to allow those mobile missile, and that was on the 10 unless we reached certain goals contracts to go forward as long as they logical question of whether we should with regard to the development of the see fit to be in bed with perhaps the continue this thing as a single-war single warhead mobile missile; but most racist and repressive regime on head missile, or should we do the type there is no guarantee that we will be the face of the Earth. of examination and studies to deter able, in the timeframe set out in that That concludes my report, and I mine whether you have the same amendment, to achieve the deploy thank the gentleman for his generosi degree of deterrence, the same type of ment, achieve the research and ty. weapon by having two or perhaps achieve full engineering development Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Chairman, three warheads; thusly increasing its of the small mobile missile in time, I yield 18 minutes to the gentleman weight to a degree. and therefore, what we have basically from New Jersey CMr. COURTER]. The theory being, of course, that the is now a reversal of what this Congress Mr. COURTER. Mr. Chairman, I ap Soviet Union would have as great a did in the past 2 and 3 and 4 years. preciate the time to talk a little bit difficulty in jeopardizing and making That is we have now gone, because about the upcoming defense debate we not survivable a two- or three-warhead of this link.age, from 50 MX missiles will be starting today and going into missile that was survivable as a one down to 10, and I just want to alert next week, perhaps 2 weeks. warhead missile, because the Soviets this body that I think that is going in August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18897 the wrong direction and not the right think it is one that should receive a comes to defense spending. One is the direction. great deal of support by both sides of Soviet threat, and the second is trying Second, there was also an effort, suc the aisle. · to answer, in a very quick way, the cessfully in the committee which I I was disappointed that the commit charge that we get all the time, "We regret, of deleting all money for hard tee proceeded without the type of just spend too much money on defend ening of the basing mode for the 10 debate that I would like with regard to ing America." warhead MX missile. a new transport cargo plane, the C-17. First, with regard to the Soviet The argument people made year The long-term goals, the Air Force threat: There is nothing that I have after year after year on this floor was has over 200 of those things at a cost read, there is nothing I do not think the fact that MX was not a good of $37.5 billion. I think, very frankly, that anybody who is a Member of the weapon because it wasn't survivable; that with a mix of the C-5B's as well House of Representatives has read and with having 10 warheads and lack as the C-141's and the C-130's that we that would indicate that the threat ing in survivability, it would be a very can fulfill the type of air cargo re has diminished, that the Soviets have attractive target for a first strike on quirements without spending that become non-Marxist-Leninist in their the Soviet side; therefore, an increased type of money. In other words, this is ideology, that have become more instability. another area that my vote would go Moscow-oriented in the fact that they Those people that were arguing toward saving money, not expending are not so covetous of different areas against MX were saying "We cannot money; the same way with regard to of the world. build MX because it's not survivable." reducing the number of small missiles, In fact, the opposite is true, and I Now, when it comes to doing research keeping them mobile. I think this and development to increase the hard body and this Congress could save tens would like to read some statistics and, ening of the silos to make it surviv of billions of dollars in the defense of course, some people can say statis able, the Armed Services Committee budget just on those two items, and I tics can do anything. I defy you to decided to eliminate all funding for am sorry that the majority of the com bring up statistics that really undo the hardening. mittee did not see this issue exactly statistics with regard to the Soviet ca the same way I did. pabilities versus United States capa 0 1430 The bill this year, and we are going bilities, the ones I am going to read. So, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy. to be debating this tomorrow, I under From 1974 to 1985, the Soviets built, Obviously, MX is not survivable at the stand, Tuesday, is somewhat different that is fielded, not just doing a little present time in its Midgetman 3 silos. than the bills in other years. There research-not just drawing papier- The money in order to determine was a hyphenated rule. We passed one ·mache reproductions of hardware whether we can make it survivable was rule, we have not yet passed the built and deployed 3 times as many deleted, so we are going to guarantee second rule. The first rule which we strategic missiles as the United States, that it is not going to be survivable. passed is going to allow us to debate 10 times as many surface-to-air-mis So, those people who vote against it the issues of the reorganization siles as the United States, 50 times as will say, "I am against it not because reform inside the Department of De many bombers, strategic bombers as of the missile but because it is not sur fense, and acquisition and procure the United States. That is not five vivable," when they themselves took ment reform inside the Department of more or two more; 50 times as many. out the research dollars to make an Defense tomorrow. Two times as many combat fighters as effort to find out whether in fact it Those are very, very important ini the United States, three times as could be survivable. I think that is a tiatives. Some I think are extremely many military helicopters as the very foolish type of approach, and I valuable and good, some of which do United States, twice as many military hope that in the conference we can not do a great deal of good or harm submarines as the United States, ten rectify that problem. and I think some particularly with times as many artillery pieces as the I thought that the gentlewoman regard to a couple of the proposed ac United States. from Maryland had an excellent quisition reforms we may be finding Also, from a strategic area it is im amendment with regard to antisatel ourselves going downstream rather portant to keep in mind that there is lite weapons. That also was an issue of than upstream, making no progress not parity in many areas and particu interesting and divisive debate on this rather than making progress. larly this area. The Soviets have in House. She crafted-now I do not So, when we have a debate tomor their strategic arsenals twice the de know why it takes so long for some row, particularly the 2 hours of debate structive power, that is twice the yield, people to think of the perfect amend on acquisition reform, I think it is im twice the megatonnage as does the ment; I think she had the perfect portant to keep in mind, to the Mem United States in our strategic arsenal. amendment. I give her a great deal of bers of this body, that there is a That, I think, should be an issue in credit. She said that we cannot go for choice, that both efforts, the Mav Geneva. I cannot imagine the United ward with our own Asat Program if roules, the Nick Mavroules amend States wanting to negotiate an arms the Soviets eliminate their asat pro ment, which contains a number of re control agreement giving the Soviet gram. We will not have one, they will forms, is mostly good; but there is Union twice the yield, the destructive not have one, but we can continue going to be a substitute, I believe, sup power in their arsenal as the United with ours as long as they continue ported by most of the ranking people, States. theirs in a deployed level. I think that most of the subcommittee chairmen, They also have four times the makes a great deal of sense, and I that makes some small modifications throw-weight in their strategic arsenal would urge my friends on boths sides and is in fact an improvement over the than the United States, 4 times the de of the aisle the logic of parity when it position of the gentleman from Massa livery capability in their strategic arse comes to antisatellite weapons is logi chusetts [Mr. MAVROULES]. nal than the United States has in our cal between the Soviet Union and the So, I would hope during the debate strategic arsenal. United States. We will forgo all rights tomorrow my colleagues do not get Those are important numbers to providing the Soviet Union eliminate confused. It is going to be a little bit keep in mind. In the past 5 years even their fielded existing system. What complicated; so keep your eyes open. with the Ronald Reagan buildup, if seems to be fair and right and proper The two sides are not that far apart. you want to call it that, the Soviets for the Soviet Union in developing We thillk there is a more responsible have produced twice as many fighter their capability should at least apply way to go. aircraft than the United States, four to ourselves. Finally, I would like to just spend times as many helicopters as the So, I think that was a good effort by the last couple of minutes talking United States, ·5 times as many artil the gentlewoman from Maryland. I about two general macroissues when it lery pieces than the United States, 12 18898 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 times as many ballistic missiles as the money should be placed and what have required the reduction of at least United States, and 50 times as many strengths should be given. I agree with two other ships. The ships that would bombers as the United States. the basic statistics the gentleman have been displaced would have in In 1985 the Soviets produced 100 cited. I do feel we have a tremendous cluded surface combatants and/or intercontinental ballistic missiles, we redundancy in nuclear weapons, and attack submarines. It is the commit none; 100 sea-launched ballistic mis that we should channel some of this tee's judgment that such reductions siles, we 74; twice the number of sub money into conventional weapons would have a greater impact on the marines that launch ballistic missiles where I think we are much more in national defense than the deletion of a than the United States; 20 interconti danger. Trident submarine. nental bombers, the United States 2; Mr. Chairman, H.R. 4428, as amend Third. The Navy is presently seeking 700 combat aircraft, the United States ed, would authorize $9,153.9 million to bring a second shipbuilder into the 320; 2, 700 tanks, the United States for the construction of 15 ships and construction of Trident submarines to half that; 2,500 infantry combat vehi the conversion of 2 ships. The bill gain the benefits of competition. The cles, the United States 655. would authorize the construction of Navy will not be able to offer the ship Now, that is the threat. I ask the four Los Angeles-class attack subma for competitive procurement until question, is that less? Is it diminished? rines, three Ticonderoga-class cruisers, fiscal year 1988. The deferral of the Is it smaller than it was a year ago, 5 two A rleigh Burke-class guided missile Trident submarine requested for fiscal years, 8 years ago? destroyers, two SURTASS surveillance year 1987 may allow the opportunity Simply, it is not. ships, two modern fleet oilers, one fast for the forces of competition to bring Very quickly, in my last remaining combat support ship, and one oceano down the cost of the vessel next year. 60 seconds: I would like to spend noth graphic research ship. The bill would The committee recommendation ing for defense; I would like to spend also authorize the conversion of two would also restructure the procure just as much as we simply have to pro crane ships. ment of Aegis cruisers and destroyers. tect ourselves, to deter conflict and As compared to the President's re quest, the bill would authorize $1,892.3 In 1982 the Navy brought a second preserve our lives, our freedom, and shipbuilder into the construction pro our country. million less than the $11,046.2 million requested. The committee action in gram for Aegis cruisers. The existence It is important as well to keep in of competition in the Aegis cruiser mind that Ike Eisenhower in 1961, I recommending authorization for Navy shipbuilding was constrained by the program has been reported to result in believe it was, made the statement significant savings in acquisition costs. that we have to be careful of the mili budget resolution which provided $292 tary-industrial complex. People will billion for the national defense func The President's budget request includ say, "Since then we have really done tion, a reduction of $28 billion from ed only two cruisers-a number that it." the President's request and a decision would effectively end the competition The United States is spending 45 to avoid large reductions in the fund for the construction of these ships. percent less of our wealth on defend ing for military personnel and readi The President's budget also included ing America than we did when Eisen ness related accounts. As a result, the three Aegis-equipped destroyers-even hower made that warning. funding for shipbuilding was cut by though the first ship of that class is So in essence, we followed his warn more than 17 percent. only now beginning construction, and ing. In the 1960's we were spending Ships that were requested by the there is only one builder. In order that about 9 percent of our gross national President but not included in the rec competition may be maintained in the product on defense, about 61/2 to 7 per ommended authorization are a Trident Aegis cruiser program, the committee cent today; about 50 percent then of ballistic missile submarine, four mine recommends that authorization be Federal spending was on defense, that sweepers that were deleted because of provided for three cruisers in fiscal is down to about 30 to 33 percent difficulties in the program, a destroy year 1987. In order to stay within today. er, a SURTASS surveillance ship, and budget constraints and consistent with the conversion of one oiler. the construction status of the destroy 0 1440 The committee faced difficult deci er program, the committee recom So during this debate, I urge my col sions in deciding how a cut of nearly mends that the budget request for leagues to remember those statistics, $1.9 billion could be implemented three destroyers be reduced to two and remember that we have an awe while minimizing the impact of the na ships for fiscal year 1987. some responsibility. The responsibility tional defense. The decision to recom I want to turn now to the committee is to answer the question as to wheth mend that the requested authorization recommendations for legislation deal er in competition with the totalitarian for the 14th Trident submarine be ing with the management and oper regime that does not have a free press, denied was carefully considered in ation of the national strategic stock that does not have a Congress, that light of the many important defense pile. does not have a Senate, can a free soci missions that are conducted by the For the past 40 years, the policy of ety do those things necessary to pro Navy. The committee decision to the U.S. Government has been to tect itself and to protect freedom? delete the Trident was heavily influ maintain a national defense stockpile. Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I enced by three factors: The purpose of the stockpile is to pro yield 10 minutes to the gentleman First. Because of SALT II limita vide materials to supply the military, from Florida [Mr. BENNETT]. tions on numbers of strategic systems, industrial, and essential civilian needs Mr. BENNETT. Mr. Chairman, I Poseidon ballistic missile submarines for national defense purposes and to thank the gentleman for yielding this are presently being retired even preclude a dangerous and costly de time to me. though they are still militarily useful. pendence by the United States on for Mr. Chairman, it is a pleasure to The committee recognized that an ad eign sources for supplies of such mate follow outstanding speakers like the ditional Trident submarine would only rials in times of national emergency. one I just heard, and I join with the exacerbate that situation. Current national defense stockpile gentleman in a desire to have a strong Second. The Navy is critically short policy originated out of the experi er national defense. It is a pleasure to of modern surface combatants that ences of World War I, World War II, serve on some of the subcommittees would be required to support the sea and the Korean conflict. with the gentleman, a very thoughtful lines of communication between the On July 8, 1985, the administration person. United States and Europe during a proposed a new national defense stock It certainly is true. that we need a NATO war. A decision to authorize a pile policy, including the sale of $2.5 stronger national defense. The only Trident submarine this year within billion of strategic assets and the re difference occurs as to where that the imposed budget limitations would duction of stockpile goals from $16 bil- August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18899 lion-May 1985 prices-to $6.6 billion. ing, not because it is not worthy, but The press has been full of accounts Materials proposed for sale included because there is a substantial amount of where the Navy has been this year: chromium, cobalt, manganese, and of money in my amendment which I supporting operations at the South platinum, all of which are primarily introduced, for what is needed to be Pole, fighting terrorism in the air over supplied by South Africa or the Soviet done this year. the Mediterranean, and exploring 2% Union. There is no need to flood this pro miles beneath the ocean surface on In response to the committee's re gram with money. We are in short the wreck of the Titanic. quest for an evaluation of the pro supply with regard to money for con But nowhere has our Nation's in posed policy, the General Accounting ventional weapons. We are in a very vestment in a strong Navy and mari Office, in their letter of June 6, 1986, long supply with regard to even re time superiority paid off more this concluded that the study conducted by search in SDI. So I will be offering an year than last April in the Gulf of the National Security Council was not amendment to cut that down to $3.1 Sidra and over Tripoli and Benghazi. based on sound national security plan billion. That is not a very deep cut, a Here the skill and bravery of our ning assumptions. The GAO letter less than $1 billion cut, from the com pilots, the readiness of their aircraft stated: mittee's amount of money, a very sub and ships, and careful planning and Thus, while our conclusion is qualified be· stantial reduction, however, from the mission execution helped to put the cause we have not yet completed our analy overall request. world's terrorists on notice that terror ses and still require additional data from Next I will be offering an amend ism would not be tolerated by free NSC and the agencies to do so, our prelimi ment to cut back on some of the MX nary assessment is that the NSC study does people. not appear to be a sufficient basis for set funds to make some of those funds The President and the Congress ting stockpile goals or as a basis for other available for conventional weaponry have worked together to bring the U.S. mobilization planning. instead. Navy back from the doldrums of the During the past 2 fiscal years, the Finally, I have introduced in the 1970's to the position of strength it administration has completely ignored committee, but not accepted there, an enjoys today. We have provided congressional direction regarding excess funds amendment. I may not enough support to reach a 600-ship stockpiles. The fiscal year 1987 budget offer this particular amendment, be Navy by the end of the decade, and proposal to transfer moneys from the cause it may be adjusted otherwise in funded the spare parts and personnel national defense stockpile transaction the bill. When I offered the amend initiatives to keep this growing fleet fund to the general fund of the Treas ment in the committee, I was told to from becoming a hollow fleet. ury is an example of such disregard. put forth a freestanding bill, which I But we now seem to be at a cross Such a transfer would evade the provi have done. But I read in the press that roads as we try to keep this momen sion of the Stock Piling Act which pro perhaps the chairman of the commit tum going. The bill before us today hibits the disposal of material from tee will offer an excess funding would cut nearly 9 percent from the the stockpile if the disposal would amendment too. Therefore, I expect to President's national defense request, result in an unobligated balance in the offer mine also, which I think will and more than 10 percent from the stockpile transaction fund in excess of close off this $40 billion or whatever it Navy's procurement budget. The com $250 million. The proposal of the ad is that is supposed to be floating mittee's shipbuilding recommendation ministration to dispose of large quanti around that ought to be cut off. would trim the President's request by ties of materials from the stockpile is Mr. Chairman, I am glad to have ad over $1.8 billion, nearly 17 percent. So another example. dressed primarily the naval functions in this bill and I would like to bring at at best, the 17 ships in the committee How stockpile goals are developed bill are a bare minimum if we are to within the executive branch is unclear, tention to the committee to the things achieve the maritime superiority our as is the basis for executive decisions that I have also discussed, the amend country needs for its survival. that are made under existing law for ments which I personally will be offer ing. Let me turn now to the specifics of the operation of the stockpile and the committee's shipbuilding recom which affect the quantity, quality, or mendation. The recommended pro form of materials to be included in the 0 1450 Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Chairman, gram includes three Ticonderoga-class stockpile. Aegis cruisers; two A rleigh Burke-class As a result, it is clear that steps I yield 5 minutes to the gentleman must be taken to bring about stability from South Carolina [Mr. SPENCE]. guided missile destroyers; four Los An and rationality to the stockpile pro Mr. SPENCE. I thank the gentleman geles-class nuclear attack submarines; gram. To that end H.R. 4428 includes for yielding me this time. long-lead funds for the next genera legislation that would establish stock Mr. Chairman, I rise in support of tion attack submarine, the Seawolf pile levels in law. This would alleviate H.R. 4428, the fiscal year 1987 Depart class; a fast combat support ship; and the manipulation of those levels for ment of Defense authorization bill, seven other support ships of various economic, budgetary, or any other and will address primarily those as types. reason and prevent the purchase of pects of the bill related to seapower. A The Ticonderoga-class guided missile unneeded materials due to pressure recent issue of U.S. News & World cruisers, with their Aegis weapon sys from producers or foreign govern Report magazine summed up the tems, continue to perform well above ments. President's 5-year naval recovery pro expectations; they are truly a revolu In addition, the committee has con gram rather well: the cover reads, tionary step in naval warfare. No cluded that the stockpile program "Tough New Navy." The lead story where was this more in evidence than should be consolidated under the De headline says, "Rust to Riches: The in the Libyan antiterrorist raid in partment of Defense to rectify the Navy is Back." April of this year. Aegis cruisers pro long recognized management deficien This recent article sums up what vided a picture of the aerial situation cies and has included legislation to those of us, who have been working of unprecedented clarity and preci achieve that end. for many years to improve the Navy, sion, contributing tremendously to the Mr. Chairman, that concludes my already know: that the U.S. Navy has overall success of the operation. In statement. enjoyed a rejuvenation over the past 5 recommending three of these ships Mr. Chairman, I would like to men years that has paid great dividends in this year the committee also seeks to tion, since it has not been mentioned the quality of our people, the readi continue the benefits of competitive in my preceding remarks, that I cer ness of our equipment, and the numer procurement in this program that tainly strongly favor the idea of cut ical growth of the fleet toward the have continued to drive the cost of ting down on the proposed SDI fund- 600-ship Navy. these ships down, year by year. 18900 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 The committee bill also recommends urge my colleagues to join me in sup limited authority now to hire and fire two A rleigh Burke-class guided missile porting this bill. their subordinates, organize their com destroyers. Also equipped with the Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I mands as they see fit, specify the Aegis system, these smaller, more ver yield 10 minutes to the gentleman chain of command under them, or satile and less expensive ships will re from Alabama [Mr. NICHOLS]. even employ subordinate forces as place older destroyers that are reach Mr. NICHOLS. I thank the gentle they feel best. These are the com ing the end of their planned lifetimes. man for yielding me this time. manders in chief [CINC's] of the 10 With two of these ships in the bill the Mr. Chairman, I appreciate the gen unified and specified commands-for Navy can begin the competitive pro tleman yielding and I would like to example, the Atlantic Command, the curement process for these ships that make some brief remarks on an Strategic Air Command, and the Cen will ultimately keep their cost down. amendment which I expect to offer to tral Command. For decades, these 10 The four Los Angeles-class SSN-688 morrow to the military authorization CINC's have been the men tasked with attack submarines in the committee bill. actually fighting a war. The service bill are a vital step in reaching the The amendment addresses the most revolutionary reform of the Defense chiefs are charged with recruiting, Navy's force goal of 100 nuclear attack training, and equipping forces, but submarines by 1990. The Soviet Union Department structure since the De fense Department was created follow have not commanded forces since the continues to outbuild us in nuclear Department of Defense was created in submarines at the rate of 3 to 1; they ing World War II. I should add that the Subcommittee on Investigations 1947. The bill gives the CINC's full are also getting better at incorporating command, as President Dwight Eisen the technologies that have traditional has been laboring on defense reform now during the past three Congresses hower recommended 30 years ago, and ly given the United States an adge in and last year we passed, by a substan in doing so gives the CINC's authority submarine warfare. The ships in this tial margin, a bill reforming the Joint commensurate with the vast responsi year's bill will do three things to re Chiefs of Staff, which has been pretty bilities. dress this situation: First, they will much adopted in the Senate reauthor Our amendment would also consoli help to make up for the dangerously ization bill passed earlier this year. date the military and civilian staffs of low attack submarine building rate of Our committee has held numerous each service: The bill would end the the late 1970's; second, they will incor hearings on the subject and has heard often duplicative civilian and military porate a series of modifications to the from 109 different witnesses in 33 days bureaucracies and require a 15-percent ships' earlier design that will make of hearings and have accumulated cut in headquarters personnel upon them the world's quietest nuclear sub better than 2,000 pages of testimony consolidation. Each service now has a marines, capable of performing multi on this subject. Our bill makes a staff under the civilian secretary and ple missions in a superb manner; and number of landmark changes in the another staff under the military chief third, they will provide an orderly manner in which the Pentagon would of staff. The bill provides for a single transition in both numbers and tech function and goes far beyond the bill staff. Where there is now a civilian as nology to the next generation of recently enacted on a unanimous vote sistant secretary for manpower and a attack submarine, the Seawolf in the other body. military deputy chief of staff for per The committee bill would also au Senators GOLDWATER from Arizona sonnel, the bill would allow only one thorize the initial procurement of and NUNN from Georgia deserve con manpower office. The secretary would components for the Seawolf attack siderable credit for the strong congres retain civilian control as now. submarine. Seawolf will be a quantum sional backing they have provided on leap from the current generations of Mr. Chairman, our subcommittee the Senate side and our bill is entirely has labored long and hard over the nuclear submarines, both United consistent with the Goldwater /Nunn States and Soviet. It will be capable of provisions contained in this amend reform package. Likewise, the Packard ment which we will offer tomorrow. As sustained quiet tactical operations at Commission deserves substantial faster speeds than any submarine in I mentioned earlier, this legislation credit for their strong support on would increase the authority of those the world. It will also be able to store reform legislation. and deliver a larger number of a wider combat commanders in the field of the The theme of our bill is to provide 10 unified and specified commands variety of weapons than any oper more authority for those elements of ational submarine today. who would have the awesome respon the military responsible for actually sibility of conducting military oper Finally, let me point out that the fighting a war and we are confident committee bill authorizes a fast that our legislation serves to place na ations in the event we go to war. Now combat support ship, the first in many tional security over the interests of when you strengthen that individual years. This type of ship is vitally the individual services. that commander in chief, the addition needed to supply our carrier battle Three of the many significant al authority that you give him obvi groups at sea, and will help to redress changes contained in the bill are: ously has to come from a higher a shortfall that could ultimately First, the development of a joint spe source and for that reason I must tell hinder our ability to operate our Navy ciality: For the first time in history, you in all honesty that many of the worldwide. officers would be specifically selected admirals and generals in the Pentagon Mr. Chairman, I believe the commit and trained to serve in assignments object to some of the provisions con tee's shipbuilding recommendations that deal with joint, multiservice oper tained in this legislation. But the bill strike a proper balance within the ations. The Investigations Subcommit is not my bill, but is the consensus of tough fiscal constraints of the budget tee took testimony showing that many the testimony we have taken from resolution. We can't lose sight of the officers working in joint assignments former secretarys of defense, national fact that the Soviets continue to have been pressured to make decisions security advisers, members of the expand and improve their fleet, out favorable to the interests of their own Joint Chiefs of Staff and field com building us in surface combatants and service. The legislation would insulate manders who strongly advocate the submarines consistently, year after joint officers from such service pres changes we are suggesting. year. The Soviets have obviously de sure by giving joint officers and the I have made every attempt to work cided that they are willing to spend chairman of the JCS a say in such with our friends in the Pentagon at whatever is necessary to gain leverage things as promotions. the very highest levels and as one over the United States at sea. The amendment would also increase whose service in the Congress has But added to our previous gains, this the authority of the CINC's. Incredi been marked by supporting a strong year's bill will help the United States ble as it may seem, the officers who defense, I regret that we have differ to regain control of the seas. I strongly would command troops in a war have ences and there will no doubt be ef- August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18901 forts made to weaken the bill, which I Perhaps the most important amend [PCSJ moves. I think everybody now hope the House will reject. ment to be offered is one to prohibit thinks we went too far in bleeding this Again, I appreciate the time afford American testing of nuclear devices account for savings. My amendment is ed me to make a brief explanation of above 1 kiloton in yield during calen not a transfer amendment, because I the amendment which will be offered dar year 1987 if the Soviets do not test want the issue to be solely the need tomorrow and I earnestly and sincere and permit us to place seismic moni for adequate funding of PCS moves. I ly solicit your support in passage of toring stations on Soviet soil. This believe that the House will trim the same. amendment will establish a mutual SDI Program and other programs; and verifiable nuclear testing morato 0 1500 hence, there will be adequate funds rium. We do not have to worry about made available to fund this restora Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I Soviet cheating because we will have tion. accurate monitors near Soviet testing yield 9 minutes to the gentlewoman I have spoken of a number of key from Colorado [Mrs. SCHROEDER]. facilities. And, we do not have to . Mrs. SCHROEDER. Mr. Chairman, worry about the Soviets leapfrogging amendments which the House should I thank the gentleman from New York our sizable lead in weapons technolo adopt. Let me talk about some good for yielding time to me. gy, because the Soviets have not been features of the bill as reported. The testing for the last year. committee slashed the·chemical weap Mr. Chairman, this year we are ons request by 56 percent. I hope the going to have a very interesting oppor Another important arms control remainder will be taken out on the tunity to pass a bill which is fiscally amendment would require the United responsible, which reduces the risk of floor. Similarly, the committee cut the States to continue living under the President's strategic defense initiative nuclear war, which provides us with a SALT II regime, which we have been mighty defense, and which reflects the by 29 percent. Again, a further cut on following for the past 8 years. While the floor is likely and desirable. beliefs and desires of the people the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan beyond the Pentagon. forced President Carter to withdraw The committee bill held the readi The bill reported by the Armed the treaty from Senate consideration, ness and personnel accounts relatively Services Committee has a number of the United States has been well served immune from the budget knife. The excellent features, but it spends too by compliance with the limitations small cut in operations and mainte much money on unproven hardware contained in SALT II. The President's nance can be made up from the re and does not address the single most decision to repudiate SALT II is pro duced world price of oil. In personnel, important national defense issue vocative and counterproductive to the committee provided a 3-percent arms control. American interests. We must set pay raise in January. I hope and A number of members, including the American policy aright. expect that the same pay raise will be chairman of the committee, have been provided to both civilian and military An amendment will be offered and people this year. The committee bill working to develop sound amendments should be adopted to restore this bill which reflect the wishes of the people to appropriate spending levels. The continues to permit DOD to operate to beyond the Pentagon. Who are these budget resolution was a classic exam a budget, without the sort of micro people? ple of congressional numbers cooking. management personnel ceilings which They are enlisted soldiers with ele The budget conferees set budget au used to exist. It is fascinating to me mentary schoolchildren in Germany thority high, to look strong on de that those who cry loudest for Gov who do not want to be ordered home fense, and set outlays low, to reduce ernment to act like the private sector in the middle of the school year to the deficit pursuant to Gramm insist on making Government ineffi save money which can then be put Rudman. The majority of the Armed cient and different from the private into an SDI contractors pocket. Services Committee, who doesn't seem sector through the imposition of per They are church goers in Denver to know how to say no to the Penta sonnel ceilings. who cannot understand why President gon, voted to mark up the bill to the The committee report focuses the Reagan refuses to join the Soviet mor inflated budget authority level, pro attention of the Pentagon on spouse atorium on nuclear weapons testing ducing actual spending of $7 to $10 bil employment, both in the United and seems eager to abandon the two lion higher than contemplated in the States. and abroad, on child care plans, arms control agreements which have budget resolution. This bill, more than and on relocation assistance. Each of already been negotiated. any other, may determine whether se these matters is of high importance if They are retirees who do not want questration occurs next month. If we we are going to retain a skilled and their Social Security benefits slashed adopt the Aspin-McCurdy-Spratt motivated cadre of soldiers and sailors. to reduce the gapping Federal defict amendment to reduce outlays to $279 The bill makes a number of small, which is caused by profligate defense billion, we can have a strong national yet significant, changes in the package spending. defense and meet the Gramm-Rudman of benefits for survivors and former They are hard-working, tax-paying targets at the same time. spouses of members of the uniformed Americans who get angry when they Another key amendment will be of services. One of these changes con see their money being stolen by greedy fered by Mr. DELLUMS. It will prohibit forms the age termination of the pen and dishonest defense contractors, the Department of Defense from sion cutoff for remarriage to the civil who the Pentagon is not interested in doing business with any firm which service. Now, under each system, re patrolling. does business with South Africa. In a marriage after age 55 does not result They are freedom-loving Americans free enterprise system, we should not in loss of benefits. who do not understand why their Gov tell companies with whom they can The committee bill contains an im ernment wants to cozy up with the and cannot do business. But, it is per portant title on procurement reform. racist government in South Africa. fectly appropriate for us to tell a com Contained in this section are two Amendments will be offered to ad pany that it has to choose: either do strong whistle-blower protection provi dress the concerns of these people business with the fascist regime of sions, one for members of the military beyond the Pentagon. And, if we meet South Africa or do business with the and one for employees of contractors. those concerns, we will have a defense United States Defense Department. Both are based on the .notion that it is bill of which all Americans can be I will be offering. an amendment to the employees working on a project proud. We will have served the people restore about one-half of the $600 mil who know best whether there is waste, in our districts, rather than the people lion in cuts made to the budget for fraud, or illegality. As a matter of na in the Pentagon. permanent changes in duty station tional policy, these sections encourage 18902 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE August 4, 1986 workers to come forward without fear tion of over $35. 7 billion, which is more than six micro-manage defense affairs. The Pentagon of reprisal. An omnibus amendment times the annual budget of my home State of must accept its responsibility for setting prior will be offered to this title by Mr. Georgia, 65 percent of all R&D funded by the ities in all Defense programs, including R&D. 1 MA VROULES. In a number of ways, this Federal Government, and 3 12 times the Feder Then, it will be up to Congress to make sure amendment strengthens the procure al R&D funding for health and energy, com funds are provided for those truly vital national ment reforms already contained in the bined. security projects. bill. A vigorous, dynamic military research and Mr. Chairman, H.R. 4428 is a good bill. It is I will be offering an amendment con development program is absolutely vital to na a bill that is conscious of budgetary concerns. cerning troop levels abroad. In 1982, tional security. However, our R&D effort today As a committee, we realized that full funding there was vibrant congressional discus is hamstrung by a lack of coordination, plan was not possible in an era of Gramm sion over whether our allies, both ning, and critical evaluation, resulting in the Rudman-Hollings. As a member who has sup NATO partners and Japan, were con inefficient use of increasingly limited funds. ported a strong national defense since my tributing their fair share to the There is a strong, growing public perception election to Congress, I could not support leg common defense. Since that time, the in this country that military R&D is one area islation that is fiscally and politically unrealis contributions of our allies have de where top return is not being obtained. Mr. tic. This bill, by no stretch of the imagination, clined, our allies have been hesitant in Chairman, my experience as a member of the the war against terrorism, and our can be considered to weaken our defensive Research and Development Subcommittee has posture. I am convinced the funding levels of budget deficit has continued to mush convinced me that this perception is correct. room. I believe it is time to raise this H.R. 4428 will meet the requirement of main The bottom line, Mr. Chairman, is this: Too taining and enhancing our defenses. issue again. I am not talking about many programs are yielding too few results abandoning Europe and Japan. and at too high a cost. This is best exemplified Finally, I urge each Member to show reluc Rather, I do not believe our allies will by numerous cases of program duplication tance and restraint in randomly and radically not pull their own weight if we contin among the services. seeking to amend this bill. Historically, the De ue to do all the pulling for them. partment of Defense authorization bill has The Research and Development subcom been the vehicle for numerous amendments The House may this year have an mittee discovered during our hearings that unprecedented opportunity to pass a that literally clutter the issue of national secu there are currently 12 separate programs to rity and eventually raise the cost of defending strong, reasonable, risk reducing de develop a remotely piloted vehicle [RPV], fo fense bill. I hope we will do so. our Nation. I urge my colleagues to consider cusing on missions only slightly different from the long-term effect on the stability of our leg each other. We should develop one RPV D 1510 islative process before jumping to support design, then modify it to suit specialized mis amendments that radically alter H.R. 4428. Mr. WHITEHURST. Mr. Chairman, sions. H.R. 4288 deletes all funding for the I have no additional requests for time, most controversial of these programs and in I look forward to a lengthy and spirited and I yield back the balance of my sists on a master plan for the entire proposed debate during the next two weeks and want to family of RPV's. inform my colleagues of my willingness to dis time. cuss various defense issues with them during Another area of concern is the Navy's pro Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I the upcoming debate. yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from posed advanced tactical aircraft [ATA] and Georgia CMr. DARDEN]. the Air Force's advanced tactical fighter Mr. STRATTON. Mr. Chairman, I [ATF]. Although the former has an air-to yield 5 minutes to the gentleman from Mr. DARDEN. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in ground mission and the latter an air-to-air mis Oklahoma CMr. McCuRDY]. strong support of H.R. 4428, the fiscal year sion, it seems logical that an airframe and Mr. McCURDY. Mr. Chairman, I 1987 Department of Defense Authorization Act. engine design suitable for both could be de rise in support of the committee bill as As a member of the Committee on Armed veloped in a single, less-costly effort. Our reported by the House Committee on Services, I want to compliment each of my committee strongly supports the ATF I AT A Armed Services, the authorizing com colleagues who serve on the committee for a memorandum of understanding by the Air mittee. I want to take a moment if I job well done. I specifically want to commend Force and Navy for the cross service utiliza may to commend the chairman and the chairman, the ranking minority member, tion of these two aircraft. the ranking minority member of the and the subcommittee chairmen who guided full committee for their direction and this bill through the committee. Continuation of ongoing research efforts which already show little or no hope of suc certainly their consideration and coop This bill represents a long, hard effort by our cess constitutes another drain on our defense eration with other members in the de committee. We began writing this legislation dollars. Certainly, all research carries the po liberations on this important piece of back in February, when hearings by subcom tential for some financial loss; the quest for legislation. mittees were held on virtually every element knowledge is one of trial and error, and those I would also like to commend, since I and concept proposed by the Department of errors have their cost. However, each ongoing see him here on the floor today, our Defense. We accepted outright most of the R&D project should be more closely moni colleague, the gentleman from Virgin DOD's requests, but we also made significant tored by Congress to ensure that it retains the ia CMr. WHITEHURST], who has always cuts in areas we believed not critical to the potential to counter-at a reasonable cost been, I think, one of the most ardent defense of our Nation. the threat which prompted its authorization. If and outspoken advocates of continuing I might also add that this bill has strong not, we should cut our losses and halt the to improve our readiness posture of bipartisan support in our committee. No mem program before valuable funds are wasted. our military personnel and our mili ber received everything he or she wanted, nor tary forces. It will be a sad day when Mr. Chairman, in this legislation, the Re he retires from this august body, and was any single member able to delete pro search and Development Subcommittee has we certainly appreciate his efforts and grams he or she opposed. This legislation is a addressed the critical problems our Nation is product of 4 7 Members of Congress coming his valuable input over the years. facing in the military research and develop I think to a large extent this bill re together to produce the best available product ment efforts. However, it is crucial that we for defending our Nation at an affordable cost. flects many of the concerns and provi recognize the problems we experience in re sions and direction that Mr. WHITE Mr. Chairman, most of my time was spent in search and development spring from the lack HURST has advocated, and that is, we service on the Subcommittee on Research and of a comprehensive, long-range policy at the attempted in this bill to establish for, Development. This subcommittee reviewed Pentagon. The Department of Defense re I think, one of the first times the rele more than 900 R&D programs, incorporating fuses to assign priorities among the multitude vant priorities of the defense budget almost 1, 700 major projects and thousands of R&D projects. and the defense policy, and that is, we more minor ones. The Research and Develop Without firm, long-range policies and prior tried to protect as best we could the ment Subcommittee recommended authoriza- ities from the Pentagon, Congress is forced to operations and maintenance accounts, August 4, 1986 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE 18903 those basic readiness issues, and the was an absolutely incredible piece of equal training per crew as compared personnel levels, with the intent of en legislation, one that took a tremen with $70.8 million for the C-5-B. suring that what hardware is there dous amount of time to develop. We Also, since I have had the privilege works, and what people are there are had a number of witnesses, and I of having an airlift base in my district, trained and qualified and prepared to think that the final product is certain and becoming familiar with the needs do their jobs. ly one of the most remarkable pieces of the Air Force and the Military Air The disappointment that I have had of legislation to come out of this body lift Command, we have found that the in the committee process, however, in some time. operational costs of the C-5 have con arose not from the establishment of I think that procurement reform tinued to increase, and the projec these priorities, but from the fact that package that came out of the procure tions, in all honesty, are extremely the Budget Committees and the ment panel, chaired by the gentleman high and I think they are going to put budget conference reported levels to from Massachusetts [Mr. MAVROULES], a continued crunch on our operations the committee that I think are incon is a good consensus document, one budget in the out years. sistent. The conference report gave us that addresses many of the concerns It is important that we go forward a budget authority, which is basically that we have in ensuring that we get with the modernization to increase the the sticker price on what the defense our money's worth out of our defense reliability and the maintainability and bill is, and an outlay figure which do dollars. the availability of airlift in the future, not match. The $292 billion budget au The other areas that need to be ad which I think is provided by the C-17. thority figure corresponds to the $279 dressed are in two priority areas for It has met the airlift fleet capabilities billion figure for outlays, that money myself. One is that of increasing our requirements of long range. It is an which actu~lly can be spent during the airlift capability. I notice my col oversized and bulk outsized cargo ca year. league, the gentleman from New pacity. It has on-off loading drive ca Now some people, our constituents Jersey CMr. COURTER], earlier made a pability. It can land in a small area, and people sitting at home, may comment about the C-17 and his oppo small airfield, which the C-5 is limited. wonder how in the world can you say sition to it. It can make aerial delivery, and it cer that we are only going to spend $279 The CHAIRMAN pro tempore and inserting in lieu thereof "$1,524"; DREN. nity appropriation authorized by section 719 and Section 414 is amended- of this title. 08) by striking out "$289" in subsection (!) by striking out "$147" in subsection "(2) The following revolving fund ac