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1 00:00:47.790 --> 00:00:48.720 Guilford Host1: Oh, are you.

2 00:00:49.170 --> 00:00:49.710 hi.

3 00:00:50.850 --> 00:00:51.720 Guilford Host1: Can you hear me good.

4 00:00:52.170 --> 00:00:53.160 Meghan Scanlon: I can hear you yeah.

5 00:00:53.400 --> 00:00:56.040 Guilford Host1: Perfect we're a little early we started seven.

6 00:00:57.630 --> 00:01:02.310 Guilford Host1: megan one of my Members has to go to another town meeting.

7 00:01:02.730 --> 00:01:06.240 Guilford Host1: wouldn't be opposed if I swap the order in which we did this.

8 00:01:07.260 --> 00:01:08.070 Guilford Host1: You guys second.

9 00:01:09.060 --> 00:01:10.260 Meghan Scanlon: that's totally fine.

10 00:01:10.590 --> 00:01:11.040 Guilford Host1: Thank you.

11 00:01:13.350 --> 00:01:14.370 Guilford Host1: hey john how are you.

12 00:01:35.040 --> 00:01:36.900 Guilford Host1: So how's things going with you megan good.

13 00:01:38.310 --> 00:01:46.110 Meghan Scanlon: hi yeah they're pretty good you might hear bath time in the background, so I do apologize for that in advance.

14 00:01:46.530 --> 00:01:48.030 Meghan Scanlon: Well, little crazy.

15 00:01:48.480 --> 00:01:52.200 Guilford Host1: Lisa it's not my 90 pound black lab barking in your ear.

16 00:01:52.290 --> 00:01:52.650 You.

17 00:01:53.940 --> 00:01:57.330 Meghan Scanlon: Just might have a toddler like screaming or something.

18 00:01:57.390 --> 00:02:00.810 Guilford Host1: that's fine we've all been there, done that so.

19 00:02:02.580 --> 00:02:04.140 Guilford Host1: mine's 23 now so.

20 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:05.910 john cunningham: yeah see.

21 00:02:06.330 --> 00:02:06.840 Meghan Scanlon: Your baby.

22 00:02:08.700 --> 00:02:09.180 Guilford Host1: hi john.

23 00:02:11.040 --> 00:02:12.780 john cunningham: Randy your lab is 23.

24 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.290 Guilford Host1: No, no, actually well he's.

25 00:02:16.620 --> 00:02:18.480 Guilford Host1: he's pastors due date by two years.

26 00:02:18.480 --> 00:02:20.580 john cunningham: According to that yeah no.

27 00:02:21.090 --> 00:02:22.980 Guilford Host1: yeah but right.

28 00:02:23.250 --> 00:02:32.400 john cunningham: Now you can only keep I had a lab that led to almost 18 years old wow boy, the time that you had with labs for as long as you can.

29 00:02:32.970 --> 00:02:37.080 Guilford Host1: yeah he's got called coma he doesn't see too well, so I have to lead them outside and.

30 00:02:37.710 --> 00:02:41.670 Guilford Host1: You know, so it gets challenging every every week it changes, you know.

31 00:02:42.840 --> 00:02:45.360 Guilford Host1: But anyway, part of life right.

32 00:02:46.380 --> 00:02:46.770 yeah.

33 00:02:48.750 --> 00:02:49.890 john cunningham: Teresa how you doing.

34 00:02:50.490 --> 00:02:52.320 Teresa Buchanan: i'm okay john how are you.

35 00:02:53.490 --> 00:02:57.330 john cunningham: Good at the Office now, not a free 10 Boston street.

36 00:02:58.050 --> 00:02:59.190 Teresa Buchanan: Right good.

37 00:03:04.230 --> 00:03:06.540 Teresa Buchanan: how's everybody at 310 Boston street.

38 00:03:07.710 --> 00:03:15.030 john cunningham: Good finally trying to figure out where they're going to go to school, next year, but i'm sure it all figure itself out at some point in time.

39 00:03:15.510 --> 00:03:17.070 Teresa Buchanan: Do either of them know yet.

40 00:03:18.480 --> 00:03:25.560 john cunningham: Now, since waiting for last choice and madden is kind of still up in the air she's going to get you know.

41 00:03:26.580 --> 00:03:30.450 john cunningham: figure out who's accepted or and then decide where she wants to go right.

42 00:03:32.100 --> 00:03:33.570 john cunningham: Similarly, waiting to go to battle.

43 00:03:35.460 --> 00:03:39.960 john cunningham: Every day she got into everything else, she just hasn't gotten in and bashing letter hasn't come.

44 00:03:40.380 --> 00:03:41.610 Teresa Buchanan: And that's the one she wants.

45 00:03:42.090 --> 00:03:42.600 john cunningham: that's the one.

46 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:46.140 john cunningham: I mean it wouldn't be any easier.

47 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.980 john cunningham: she's not in every other school she applied to him, but she wants to go to bat.

48 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:50.970 Teresa Buchanan: He hasn't.

49 00:03:55.200 --> 00:04:03.600 Teresa Buchanan: so hard I just it's really yeah it's been a horrible year for are either of your girls trying to do any sports.

50 00:04:04.890 --> 00:04:06.360 john cunningham: Since a capital, the crushed it.

51 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:08.670 Teresa Buchanan: But I mean in college.

52 00:04:09.810 --> 00:04:12.600 john cunningham: Oh, probably not my ask them.

53 00:04:14.250 --> 00:04:22.020 john cunningham: And neither of them are really into the athletics, the way that I was so I said so be it that's fine.

54 00:04:22.470 --> 00:04:40.950 Teresa Buchanan: Well, I think that's good I aiden is just really wants to play at college and because of the last year, the coaches just haven't been able to see the kids play and so nobody's you know doing anything about that and it's making him very frustrated.

55 00:04:41.340 --> 00:04:42.420 And it's hard to choose.

56 00:04:43.740 --> 00:04:47.970 john cunningham: What he's he's really good Theresa May.

57 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:50.850 john cunningham: be wanting to play college i'm sure you probably should.

58 00:04:51.510 --> 00:04:52.620 Teresa Buchanan: that's kind of what you.

59 00:04:52.680 --> 00:05:02.520 Teresa Buchanan: want, but the College coaches they're all like well we're you know we're not allowed to go and watch and none of them will say they'll take you without seeing.

60 00:05:03.780 --> 00:05:08.820 Teresa Buchanan: You play live, you can send them all the footage you want, but yeah they want to see you live.

61 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:25.800 john cunningham: yeah unless you had an invite last year when you're like sit at a couple of colleges watch her last last year they didn't play lacrosse That was a sophomore so now she's like you know what i'm just I want to go to a good business school.

62 00:05:26.700 --> 00:05:28.890 Teresa Buchanan: yeah well good for her that's easier.

63 00:05:29.550 --> 00:05:29.970 Teresa Buchanan: I wish.

64 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:31.260 Teresa Buchanan: come around.

65 00:05:34.830 --> 00:05:35.160 How do you.

66 00:05:36.420 --> 00:05:41.370 Meghan Scanlon: Take care and preschool was hard but college seems harder, so now.

67 00:05:43.830 --> 00:05:47.130 Teresa Buchanan: yeah yes yeah in boy preschool while you can.

68 00:05:50.790 --> 00:05:53.400 john cunningham: Totally totally backed up on that.

69 00:05:53.520 --> 00:05:57.720 Teresa Buchanan: yeah I would trade in all the teenagers in the world for a bunch of.

70 00:05:57.750 --> 00:05:58.380 preschoolers.

71 00:06:01.290 --> 00:06:03.690 Meghan Scanlon: We get to we had to sign up like right when we.

72 00:06:03.690 --> 00:06:08.910 Meghan Scanlon: found out that I was pregnant, because the waitlist for preschool was already.

73 00:06:09.180 --> 00:06:10.230 Meghan Scanlon: happening yeah.

74 00:06:10.530 --> 00:06:13.410 Meghan Scanlon: It seems a lot more complicated so i'll take.

75 00:06:13.530 --> 00:06:14.010 yeah.

76 00:06:15.180 --> 00:06:15.900 Teresa Buchanan: Absolutely.

77 00:06:17.640 --> 00:06:20.280 Teresa Buchanan: So john, what do you think of my funny gate.

78 00:06:22.320 --> 00:06:22.860 john cunningham: I like it.

79 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:25.230 Teresa Buchanan: It took you a while to say.

80 00:06:26.820 --> 00:06:37.620 john cunningham: No well you know i'm bad earphones when the trees off so and again just leaves and you get a little bit of our branch structure on the Horn.

81 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:40.710 john cunningham: Right now, it looks a little bit your.

82 00:06:40.710 --> 00:06:42.060 Teresa Buchanan: Life yeah.

83 00:06:43.500 --> 00:06:47.400 Ann Street: I have a question about those bushes are they supposed to look like they're Dan.

84 00:06:48.990 --> 00:06:49.740 Teresa Buchanan: As john.

85 00:06:50.700 --> 00:06:52.710 Ann Street: They look like that in the winter time yeah.

86 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:56.310 john cunningham: that's what any deciduous piece.

87 00:06:56.310 --> 00:06:56.370 In.

88 00:06:58.050 --> 00:06:58.770 Ann Street: The hedge.

89 00:07:01.110 --> 00:07:09.720 john cunningham: Oh, when you when you see that five years from now, and it's a full sheared Horn being edge, it will be the talk of downton.

90 00:07:11.640 --> 00:07:12.990 Ann Street: Abbey looking right now.

91 00:07:13.980 --> 00:07:19.560 Teresa Buchanan: yeah I think people are laughing at me at the moment but we'll get there, while we john.

92 00:07:21.300 --> 00:07:22.920 john cunningham: Teresa you'll have the last laugh.

93 00:07:22.980 --> 00:07:25.140 john cunningham: don't worry about it, I wouldn't I wouldn't leave you.

94 00:07:25.770 --> 00:07:44.160 Teresa Buchanan: know well, but it's we are already the talk of the town and I can't tell you how many people have stopped to ask me what kind of trees, they are and it's and some people who know about beach edges, are very excited they think this is just the best.

95 00:07:45.300 --> 00:07:46.860 john cunningham: Most well it's either.

96 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:54.210 john cunningham: I hate to say but it's either corn been pre selected for edge maple is used in Europe a.

97 00:07:54.210 --> 00:08:03.570 john cunningham: lot also the beach are way too big, you have to have a massive property for the chance to really fit sufficiently grow and its own.

98 00:08:03.690 --> 00:08:11.370 Teresa Buchanan: it's true yeah if you ever go to Scotland and see the beach hedges along the roads, it is unbelievable they are.

99 00:08:11.730 --> 00:08:16.860 Teresa Buchanan: You know i'm seven stories set the height of a seven story building as a head which.

100 00:08:17.070 --> 00:08:17.760 Ann Street: that's what I mean.

101 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:18.150 john cunningham: yeah.

102 00:08:18.180 --> 00:08:19.290 Teresa Buchanan: They are incredible.

103 00:08:20.160 --> 00:08:21.600 Kathy: Beautiful in the wintertime.

104 00:08:22.230 --> 00:08:24.270 Teresa Buchanan: They are yeah they really are.

105 00:08:24.870 --> 00:08:26.520 Kathy: Say Russell believes Russell.

106 00:08:27.450 --> 00:08:31.770 Teresa Buchanan: yeah well that's what we're going for here with our Horn beam will see.

107 00:08:34.590 --> 00:08:37.650 Guilford Host1: Kathy do you know of 66 broad is going to attend tonight.

108 00:08:38.910 --> 00:08:41.130 Kathy: I didn't hear from the guy and I.

109 00:08:42.570 --> 00:08:45.030 Guilford Host1: there's no there's nobody in a waiting room.

110 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:50.580 Kathy: When I send them the link for the meeting I didn't get any acknowledgement, whereas.

111 00:08:50.670 --> 00:08:51.930 Guilford Host1: Oh, there we go okay.

112 00:08:54.930 --> 00:08:56.910 Guilford Host1: Joe you're for 66 broad street.

113 00:09:00.150 --> 00:09:00.660 Joseph Valentino III: yeah.

114 00:09:00.810 --> 00:09:01.470 Okay, good.

115 00:09:03.270 --> 00:09:04.560 Guilford Host1: we're gonna start at seven.

116 00:09:18.210 --> 00:09:21.270 Kathy: Did you hear from any other Commission members.

117 00:09:21.630 --> 00:09:23.580 Guilford Host1: No nothing okay.

118 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:24.990 john cunningham: I think.

119 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:27.060 Guilford Host1: What we have is what we have so.

120 00:09:29.340 --> 00:09:33.480 john cunningham: So Randy they're gonna they're gonna chime in if I need to go to the old saybrook me.

121 00:09:37.980 --> 00:09:38.640 Guilford Host1: who's gonna chime in.

122 00:09:40.410 --> 00:09:42.420 Maribel Lota: hi this is Mary Ellen saybrook people.

123 00:09:42.810 --> 00:09:46.140 Maribel Lota: hi miracle women and family life Center.

124 00:09:51.000 --> 00:09:53.880 Kathy: So we were possibly going to change the order of the agenda.

125 00:09:53.970 --> 00:09:54.660 Guilford Host1: run yeah.

126 00:09:54.780 --> 00:09:56.460 Guilford Host1: I talked to megan she's fine with it.

127 00:09:56.730 --> 00:09:57.090 Now.

128 00:09:58.410 --> 00:09:59.280 Guilford Host1: let's go ahead and start.

129 00:10:00.390 --> 00:10:07.110 Guilford Host1: Good evening everyone, this is a conference of a publicly notice meeting because the guilford historic district Commission allowed by can I.

130 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:21.270 Guilford Host1: connect to the executive order seven be whereby governor Lamont suspended in person open meeting requirements along for the temporary used to teleconferencing to conduct municipal board and Commission meetings, my name is Randy McCartney, and on the Commission chairman.

131 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:26.550 Guilford Host1: i'm going to abbreviate the preamble, please note that this meeting is being recorded.

132 00:10:29.520 --> 00:10:31.440 Guilford Host1: Tracy we read the meeting notice, please.

133 00:10:31.800 --> 00:10:48.270 Teresa Buchanan: yep legal notice town of guilford Connecticut historic district Commission notices here by given that on Wednesday 17th of February 2021 the guilford historic district Commission will hold a public hearing at 7pm due to the coven.

134 00:10:52.560 --> 00:10:53.670 Guilford Host1: So you froze I think.

135 00:10:53.970 --> 00:10:56.850 Teresa Buchanan: He not breakfast meeting will be conducted through a web and phone reading only.

136 00:10:58.050 --> 00:11:01.260 Guilford Host1: Oh Hello Hello yeah we can hear you.

137 00:11:01.800 --> 00:11:05.040 Teresa Buchanan: Okay, all right sorry i'll keep going I don't know what's happening.

138 00:11:07.410 --> 00:11:29.040 Teresa Buchanan: A link to the meeting will be posted on the town's website ww.www.ca guilford ct.us application by the women and family life Center for a certificate of appropriateness to install an outdoor advertising sign on property located at 96 fair street assessors map 46 lat.

139 00:11:31.290 --> 00:11:41.550 Teresa Buchanan: application by Deborah graves for a certificate of appropriateness to replace seven windows on a dwelling located at 66 broad street assessors map 39 lat 33.

140 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:52.080 Teresa Buchanan: copies of these applications are available for inspection on the town's website at this hearing persons may attend by either phone or web connection and Shelby heard.

141 00:11:52.620 --> 00:12:03.300 Teresa Buchanan: Pursuant to the governor's executive order seven be any materials relevant to matters on the agenda, including but not limited to materials related to specific applications.

142 00:12:03.540 --> 00:12:10.950 Teresa Buchanan: If applicable she'll be submitted to the Commission a minimum of 24 hours prior and posted to the commission's website.

143 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:20.100 Teresa Buchanan: for public inspection prior to, during and after the meeting and any exhibits to be submitted by members of the public shall, to the extent feasible.

144 00:12:20.340 --> 00:12:29.400 Teresa Buchanan: be submitted to the Commission a minimum of 24 hours prior to the meeting and posted to the commission's website for public inspection prior to, during and after the meeting.

145 00:12:30.540 --> 00:12:48.600 Teresa Buchanan: In accordance with the governor's executive order seven I this legal notice is being published on the town of guilford website www.ca guilford ct.us data that guilford Connecticut this 12th day of February 2021 Randy McCartney chairman.

146 00:12:49.710 --> 00:12:59.430 Guilford Host1: Thank you for the sake of brevity i'll read the role Randy McCartney chair President industry vice chair present krista Buchanan clerk President john cutting am president.

147 00:12:59.820 --> 00:13:08.250 Guilford Host1: We you know Madani jr excused Michael Mann see any excuse Michael solace back excused Kathy Stewart recording Secretary present.

148 00:13:10.620 --> 00:13:19.350 Guilford Host1: Order, the meeting i'll explain that applications generally will be heard in the order that they appear in the legal notice the order may be changed at the direction of the chairman.

149 00:13:19.770 --> 00:13:23.970 Guilford Host1: At the conclusion of each presentation, members of the public will be asked to.

150 00:13:24.660 --> 00:13:31.740 Guilford Host1: If they wish to speak for or against the application members of the public who wish to speak will state their name and address, for the record.

151 00:13:32.130 --> 00:13:41.790 Guilford Host1: Once a public hearing portion is closed applicants are welcome to stay in the meeting and listen deliberations by the Commission, however, neither the applicant nor anyone for the public.

152 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:52.080 Guilford Host1: offer any further comments, the Commission has 65 days to render a decision but we'll try to decide about each application, this evening, unless a key piece of information is missing.

153 00:13:53.820 --> 00:14:05.250 Guilford Host1: OK, so now we'll go to the public hearing portion of the meeting and i've talked to megan and she's okay if we swap the order of the meeting so first we'll go to.

154 00:14:07.020 --> 00:14:19.830 Ann Street: break for just a minute Randy yes um before we start this meeting, I would like to say that I intend to recuse myself from either deliberation questioning or voting or follow up on the.

155 00:14:20.430 --> 00:14:30.750 Ann Street: Application for 66 high street is that's my direct next door neighbor in a perfect world, when we met in person, I would step out into the hall during those portions of the meeting.

156 00:14:31.500 --> 00:14:41.850 Ann Street: Since I am the one who facilitates the the sharing of materials, I was going to stay in the meeting and do that job unless there's any.

157 00:14:44.100 --> 00:14:48.300 Ann Street: problem either the applicant or any of the Commission members have problems with that.

158 00:14:49.350 --> 00:14:53.160 Guilford Host1: So noted, I would like you to stay in the meeting and assist with the presentation.

159 00:14:57.540 --> 00:15:03.750 Guilford Host1: Joe do you want to present the documents or do you want one of our Members to do that for you.

160 00:15:06.060 --> 00:15:07.800 Joseph Valentino III: When you refer to the documents you mean the.

161 00:15:07.800 --> 00:15:09.960 Joseph Valentino III: contract and the pictures that were submitted or.

162 00:15:10.020 --> 00:15:12.750 Guilford Host1: I have more signatures submitted in in the photographs right.

163 00:15:13.800 --> 00:15:19.320 Joseph Valentino III: I have more photographs, if you need them if I need to share my screen, but I don't know what your.

164 00:15:20.700 --> 00:15:35.040 Joseph Valentino III: methodology is I haven't done this in the last one was in person, two years ago, so Okay, if you guys take it from here, if I need to jump in, please let me know if I need to I have some things prepared, if if we need to go there.

165 00:15:35.310 --> 00:15:38.520 Guilford Host1: Okay, and will you please present the application.

166 00:15:46.740 --> 00:15:55.140 Guilford Host1: Okay, everybody was on a Commission was previously sent the application to review this is the front page of the application.

167 00:15:56.310 --> 00:16:00.570 Guilford Host1: And Joel if you just want to explain what you plan on doing.

168 00:16:01.680 --> 00:16:03.450 Joseph Valentino III: we're going to be installing six.

169 00:16:04.470 --> 00:16:13.890 Joseph Valentino III: custom fit excuse me, seven custom fit replacement windows, which will leave all of the exterior would work and crown molding.

170 00:16:14.760 --> 00:16:28.320 Joseph Valentino III: All original so will not be disturbed it's going to be a replacement insert window with minimal invasion of the exterior appearance, all of the front facing windows will not be.

171 00:16:28.350 --> 00:16:29.610 Teresa Buchanan: touched, with the exception of.

172 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:34.560 Joseph Valentino III: The kitchen window and it's going to be like for, like the other windows, are on the side.

173 00:16:35.310 --> 00:16:44.010 Joseph Valentino III: The day that I was there, you see snowy I did go back and I do have additional pictures but there's really nothing visible from the street that's going to be changed.

174 00:16:44.400 --> 00:16:53.490 Joseph Valentino III: As well there you go that's the side, those are the six windows right there that we're looking at, not the not the front facing but those six all of that molding on the outside.

175 00:16:54.000 --> 00:17:05.910 Joseph Valentino III: will not be touched so storm window comes off and insert window gets Plumb levels and squared within the old frame and it won't take up any more space than the old storm window did so.

176 00:17:06.420 --> 00:17:20.910 Joseph Valentino III: The it'll look essentially like for like on the outside, after it's done just with a nice little facelift and look a little bit look a little bit better all of the products that we use Anderson uses a five breaths, which is a.

177 00:17:22.620 --> 00:17:24.240 Joseph Valentino III: A wood fiber composite.

178 00:17:25.500 --> 00:17:33.480 Joseph Valentino III: And it is maintenance free but designed to look at emulate historically correct would with slope sales more does in 10 and joints.

179 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:48.240 Joseph Valentino III: So it is, it does have a historically correct appearance and that's the only window that she wanted to have grids in the one that we're looking at right now that will have the same grids so maintains the same aesthetics that it currently does without touching any exterior on the outside.

180 00:17:50.100 --> 00:17:53.010 Ann Street: So these, these are all one over one.

181 00:17:54.210 --> 00:17:55.980 Joseph Valentino III: that's correct and.

182 00:17:56.100 --> 00:17:57.180 Joseph Valentino III: These at six over.

183 00:17:57.180 --> 00:17:57.480 Teresa Buchanan: six.

184 00:17:58.140 --> 00:17:59.250 Ann Street: upside down but.

185 00:18:01.170 --> 00:18:01.710 Ann Street: and

186 00:18:02.790 --> 00:18:03.390 here's the.

187 00:18:08.370 --> 00:18:14.040 Teresa Buchanan: Sorry, and can you go back up to the side view that shows all six of the windows yep.

188 00:18:17.460 --> 00:18:22.980 Teresa Buchanan: So there one over ones, it looks like on the inside, there are millions what am I looking at.

189 00:18:23.280 --> 00:18:24.660 Joseph Valentino III: you're looking at the blinds.

190 00:18:25.320 --> 00:18:28.050 Teresa Buchanan: Oh, I see so there's no millions there one over ones.

191 00:18:28.470 --> 00:18:37.530 Joseph Valentino III: yeah and the storm windows been raised on that one where the cursor is on the upstairs windows it's like the screens down and the windows up at.

192 00:18:37.620 --> 00:18:38.160 Teresa Buchanan: Night see.

193 00:18:39.660 --> 00:18:40.410 Joseph Valentino III: norm windows.

194 00:18:40.830 --> 00:18:45.420 Teresa Buchanan: I see I see I see okay yeah sorry I just thought they looked like they had millions okay.

195 00:18:47.460 --> 00:18:50.070 Joseph Valentino III: They do look like that, though don't they know that i'm looking at it, the way that.

196 00:18:50.070 --> 00:18:52.440 Joseph Valentino III: you're probably seeing it looks like it's for over four up top.

197 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:54.150 Teresa Buchanan: middle one looks.

198 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:55.590 Teresa Buchanan: Like it's fair or so.

199 00:18:56.370 --> 00:18:57.750 Joseph Valentino III: yeah for sure.

200 00:18:58.170 --> 00:19:04.530 Guilford Host1: Joe the styles and rails on the replacement window going to be virtually the same size as the ones that are there now.

201 00:19:05.190 --> 00:19:11.310 Joseph Valentino III: yeah they're all historically accurate sizing so it's very typical that we work in historic districts and I do have.

202 00:19:12.690 --> 00:19:24.990 Joseph Valentino III: You know quite a catalog of that but yes, if you see this right there that corner keys there with the slope, still on the bottom rail sloping of the still check rail the top rail is all historically correct size.

203 00:19:26.250 --> 00:19:28.560 Joseph Valentino III: So it's designed to emulate the windows.

204 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:34.920 Joseph Valentino III: Just with the maintenance free material but but design and emulate would window.

205 00:19:39.270 --> 00:19:39.600 Teresa Buchanan: Okay.

206 00:19:40.800 --> 00:19:45.000 Guilford Host1: anyone have any other comments or questions oh here's here's what you need.

207 00:19:46.410 --> 00:19:47.490 Teresa Buchanan: Oh, there we go yeah.

208 00:19:48.600 --> 00:19:53.250 Teresa Buchanan: And then there won't be storms on those anymore you'll get rid of the tracks that are on there.

209 00:19:53.820 --> 00:20:06.000 Joseph Valentino III: Yes, so those come off and then there's an insert frame so it's a narrow framed window in the it's it's it's right in the window frame, so the storm windows unnecessary because it's rain.

210 00:20:07.020 --> 00:20:09.600 Joseph Valentino III: Last week, last week later glazed are gone full glass.

211 00:20:15.210 --> 00:20:17.460 Guilford Host1: anybody else have any comments or questions.

212 00:20:18.810 --> 00:20:22.800 Guilford Host1: Okay Is there anyone from the public that wants to speak for against the application.

213 00:20:26.160 --> 00:20:34.920 Guilford Host1: Okay, there are being none will close the public portion of this meeting, Joe you're welcome to stay or not a we will deliberate after our second application.

214 00:20:35.820 --> 00:20:47.760 Guilford Host1: And you and the owner will get a certified letter in the mail on our decision we usually make the decision on the same night unless we're missing a piece of information and, in this case, I believe we are.

215 00:20:48.510 --> 00:20:50.910 Joseph Valentino III: Close okay so there's okay so we're good.

216 00:20:51.150 --> 00:20:53.670 Joseph Valentino III: Yes, thank you very, very much I appreciate your time.

217 00:20:53.760 --> 00:20:54.900 Joseph Valentino III: you're welcome have a great night.

218 00:20:55.290 --> 00:21:00.930 Guilford Host1: bye bye all right we'll move on now to number 845 women and family life Center.

219 00:21:02.220 --> 00:21:09.750 Guilford Host1: megan or Maribel which one of you are going to talk and do you want us to bring up your application or say you just did.

220 00:21:10.500 --> 00:21:12.210 Ann Street: Was that you and i'm sorry that's me.

221 00:21:12.360 --> 00:21:12.810 Okay.

222 00:21:14.580 --> 00:21:16.740 Guilford Host1: megan or Maribel which are you gonna.

223 00:21:16.980 --> 00:21:18.270 Meghan Scanlon: i'm so we.

224 00:21:18.450 --> 00:21:35.490 Meghan Scanlon: We are just submitting for women and family life is submitting for a replacement sign, so you can see from our application, we are able to keep the current post, so we just have to sand it down and repaint the existing would post.

225 00:21:36.810 --> 00:21:40.650 Meghan Scanlon: But we are looking to replace the actual sign it is.

226 00:21:41.850 --> 00:21:54.120 Meghan Scanlon: Almost similar in dimensions it's slightly slightly bigger than the original sign to accommodate for the updated logo and the only other difference would be.

227 00:21:54.720 --> 00:22:07.560 Meghan Scanlon: We are looking for it to be reflective for at nighttime for folks to be able to easy be able to see it easier and it will be in color right now, our sign that we originally had is.

228 00:22:08.700 --> 00:22:26.100 Meghan Scanlon: is black, but this would be true to the colors in the in the mock up that you have so you can see the color scheme, so it would be a white sign with that exact color scheme, and then the reflective.

229 00:22:27.600 --> 00:22:30.210 Meghan Scanlon: feature would be an update for us.

230 00:22:30.900 --> 00:22:33.030 Guilford Host1: megan how late, do you have people coming.

231 00:22:34.230 --> 00:22:36.600 Guilford Host1: That would need to see the elimination of the sign.

232 00:22:36.660 --> 00:22:44.940 Meghan Scanlon: i'm typically 737 30 to eight is our last are usually our last.

233 00:22:46.710 --> 00:22:55.230 Meghan Scanlon: program that has wrapped up in the past or folks that are coming for an appointment, so we typically wrap up between 730 and 8pm.

234 00:22:55.590 --> 00:23:02.340 Guilford Host1: So suffice it to say in December, it would be dark maybe around five o'clock so somebody would would need to see that sign.

235 00:23:02.760 --> 00:23:04.920 Guilford Host1: If they right familiar with the property correct.

236 00:23:05.460 --> 00:23:06.630 Maribel Lota: Correct yes.

237 00:23:07.230 --> 00:23:09.750 Guilford Host1: Are you going to have any lighting put on the sign.

238 00:23:10.380 --> 00:23:27.480 Meghan Scanlon: Our plan is not to include lighting, because we do recognize that it's still you know and it's still relatively very much a neighborhood so we thought going with the reflective on the sign would be a good compromise, so that we wouldn't have to just start folks with any additional lighting.

239 00:23:27.510 --> 00:23:34.830 Ann Street: Today is the blue reflective to I mean clearly the yellow or the gold part is but is the blue part reflective to the whole.

240 00:23:37.320 --> 00:23:38.550 Meghan Scanlon: Man, I believe the.

241 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:39.480 Time.

242 00:23:41.610 --> 00:23:43.290 Maribel Lota: Oh yes, the graphics.

243 00:23:44.880 --> 00:23:45.930 Guilford Host1: So we know who it is.

244 00:23:46.590 --> 00:23:49.290 Maribel Lota: Oh sure this is mirabelle America.

245 00:23:52.410 --> 00:23:59.070 Maribel Lota: The whole the whole graphics it will be reflecting what's all printed, and I know.

246 00:24:03.660 --> 00:24:09.030 Guilford Host1: did anyone have trouble seeing this sign the original song, without it being reflective.

247 00:24:09.990 --> 00:24:15.930 Maribel Lota: We got some comments some to people about OSHA often see a sign.

248 00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:18.480 Guilford Host1: That somebody couldn't see it readily.

249 00:24:19.050 --> 00:24:34.170 Meghan Scanlon: yeah we had a cut we had some feedback that it was hard to see at night, especially so we're trying to you know, take the feedback and make it work as best we can, but also honor the the neighborhood and the district and try not to get.

250 00:24:36.660 --> 00:24:38.820 too crazy with lights and everything like that.

251 00:24:40.020 --> 00:24:44.730 Guilford Host1: yeah we have allowed lights on signs in the past, but in a residential neighborhood.

252 00:24:46.710 --> 00:25:00.420 Guilford Host1: we've had them go off at a certain time at night, you know one on our timer and and really have more of a down light so there's you know, no, no skyward light pollution or or you know going out across the street.

253 00:25:00.600 --> 00:25:02.340 Meghan Scanlon: To you right, you know so.

254 00:25:03.000 --> 00:25:12.540 Ann Street: So I have a question and street um the the sign is actually quite a ways off of the street.

255 00:25:13.440 --> 00:25:14.280 Ann Street: And so.

256 00:25:15.330 --> 00:25:20.280 Ann Street: I think what what you're trying to achieve here is that the the the headlights from the cars.

257 00:25:21.780 --> 00:25:34.980 Ann Street: Are they really going to get in there, I mean unless I mean on my car if i'm halfway down fair street and I my high beams boy it lights up the whole damn street but i'm not sure that your general run of the mill.

258 00:25:36.270 --> 00:25:45.690 Ann Street: Driving lamps will will actually reflect off that do you think john do you have a sense for how how far off the beam things reflect.

259 00:25:49.380 --> 00:25:50.430 Ann Street: unmute yourself there.

260 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:51.870 Guilford Host1: john we can't hear you john.

261 00:25:54.990 --> 00:26:03.090 john cunningham: The edge of the sidewalk on the House side is the property one, so the sign is going to have to be on their property.

262 00:26:05.310 --> 00:26:12.180 john cunningham: If someone pulling in if the green portion of the sign the family life sign has a reflective element to it.

263 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:26.130 john cunningham: The headlights even though they're probably at a lower distance will probably pick up a little bit I was going to say, this is a perfect example is if they find it a sign cannot be illuminated at night with headlights.

264 00:26:27.690 --> 00:26:42.000 john cunningham: The placement of to in ground led low voltage whites with a hood on top, that would only shine a light on the sign would be what I would recommend here.

265 00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:43.620 john cunningham: So I would let them.

266 00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:44.640 Guilford Host1: record like being.

267 00:26:45.990 --> 00:26:55.650 john cunningham: A directed light beam and you can the low voltage lighting Now you can direct it at anything and contain the light so it's still not a dark sky.

268 00:26:57.600 --> 00:27:01.590 john cunningham: You know, tolerant light, but they might want to.

269 00:27:01.590 --> 00:27:20.760 john cunningham: Say slow try it this way, without lighting see what happens I just might what might make a motion that if they did have to do some kind of low voltage they could come back to subcommittee and say, we would like to have these in ground low voltage lights, we did the same thing for the.

270 00:27:22.530 --> 00:27:29.160 john cunningham: One of the churches that i'm agreeing that are that are there, right now, the light only illuminates what we want it to them.

271 00:27:30.540 --> 00:27:35.790 Guilford Host1: Because it's a residential neighborhood I would prefer that they try that the sign is presented.

272 00:27:35.820 --> 00:27:39.450 john cunningham: I would say, try without the lighting Randy i'm totally with you on that yeah.

273 00:27:40.560 --> 00:27:51.300 john cunningham: I just I would want to make sure that the woman and family life Center that you could see the sign if it was dark outside I think it's really important, so I just like to bring that up okay.

274 00:27:51.870 --> 00:27:58.410 Ann Street: I have a question and, again, so what you said john is that the sign needs to not overhang.

275 00:27:58.740 --> 00:27:59.790 john cunningham: that's correct.

276 00:27:59.910 --> 00:28:06.480 Ann Street: Okay, and so this picture because it's taking a kind of an oblique angle looks like whoops sorry.

277 00:28:06.780 --> 00:28:12.900 john cunningham: looks like a drop straight down on this i'm sure the sign guy measured the property when he did the side in.

278 00:28:13.740 --> 00:28:15.780 john cunningham: The edge of the sign is not over the edge of the side.

279 00:28:16.170 --> 00:28:17.610 Ann Street: Okay, so you think the sign guy.

280 00:28:19.320 --> 00:28:23.310 Ann Street: Because it's bigger than the previous signed by a little right.

281 00:28:24.060 --> 00:28:27.750 Meghan Scanlon: yeah by just um it's like three quarters of an inch.

282 00:28:29.280 --> 00:28:30.570 Ann Street: sitting in the same bracket.

283 00:28:30.690 --> 00:28:33.900 Guilford Host1: At least don't want somebody hitting their head when they're walking down the sidewalk.

284 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:34.440 john cunningham: No.

285 00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:35.670 Meghan Scanlon: I don't want that either.

286 00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:36.180 No.

287 00:28:39.690 --> 00:28:43.950 Ann Street: We don't have we don't have a just a sort of a general view.

288 00:28:45.120 --> 00:28:45.810 john cunningham: Well it's still.

289 00:28:47.070 --> 00:28:52.050 john cunningham: it's still on the same bracket that was there, so i'm sure if it fits on the same bracket.

290 00:28:53.250 --> 00:28:57.630 john cunningham: bracket that was there is not extending in the sidewalk in the sciences.

291 00:28:59.370 --> 00:29:03.450 Ann Street: So do you think, do you think that i'm cars driving down the.

292 00:29:03.450 --> 00:29:09.300 Ann Street: street from from post road you think their headlights will will like that up.

293 00:29:11.790 --> 00:29:13.860 john cunningham: it'll, be it would be a stretch.

294 00:29:14.430 --> 00:29:17.910 john cunningham: yeah night look at look at the car sitting down there.

295 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:28.380 john cunningham: yeah i'm going to guess that that sign is probably if I had to guess it's four and a half feet above the sidewalk area yeah probably about the limit of.

296 00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:32.850 Ann Street: sidewalk foot above the road bed.

297 00:29:33.300 --> 00:29:34.110 john cunningham: that's what I mean.

298 00:29:34.320 --> 00:29:34.620 yeah.

299 00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:43.110 john cunningham: that's why I brought up the that that's one reason why I brought up the ground whitey if they find that is an issue.

300 00:29:44.580 --> 00:29:47.640 john cunningham: They could probably deal with that and Subcommittee, as opposed to practice.

301 00:29:48.330 --> 00:29:48.990 Guilford Host1: yeah I agree.

302 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:55.020 Guilford Host1: Okay anybody have any other questions or comments.

303 00:29:58.350 --> 00:30:02.220 Guilford Host1: Okay, is there anybody in the audience for against the application.

304 00:30:04.770 --> 00:30:07.620 Guilford Host1: Okay, there are being non will close a public portion of the meeting.

305 00:30:08.730 --> 00:30:22.440 Guilford Host1: Thank you megan and Mary belle we'll we'll discuss it and and you'll you'll get a certified letter in the mail you're welcome to stay, but you don't have to and we'll continue with with our our portion of the Commission meeting.

306 00:30:23.610 --> 00:30:24.210 Meghan Scanlon: Thank you.

307 00:30:24.420 --> 00:30:24.960 Guilford Host1: very much.

308 00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:27.270 john cunningham: Thank you, thank you.

309 00:30:29.910 --> 00:30:40.530 Guilford Host1: Okay we'll continue, I will delay the approval of the Minutes we're going to go right to the deliberation, a public hearing items and john because you have to leave.

310 00:30:41.490 --> 00:30:44.070 john cunningham: Not not yet no one stacks me yet Randy i'm still good.

311 00:30:44.340 --> 00:30:46.110 Guilford Host1: you're good okay all right.

312 00:30:47.220 --> 00:30:53.070 Guilford Host1: We will we will bring up number 846 66 broad.

313 00:30:53.070 --> 00:30:57.300 Guilford Host1: screen which which we which we talked about first tonight.

314 00:31:00.120 --> 00:31:04.020 Guilford Host1: And is there any further discussion on 66 broad street.

315 00:31:07.290 --> 00:31:07.770 Guilford Host1: Okay.

316 00:31:07.830 --> 00:31:10.080 john cunningham: ready i'll make a motion to approve us presented.

317 00:31:10.890 --> 00:31:12.060 Guilford Host1: Okay, do I have a second.

318 00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:13.080 Teresa Buchanan: i'll second.

319 00:31:13.950 --> 00:31:15.120 Guilford Host1: Okay, and.

320 00:31:16.560 --> 00:31:19.680 Guilford Host1: i'm in favor john's in favor ends in favor.

321 00:31:19.800 --> 00:31:21.000 Ann Street: And it's abstaining.

322 00:31:21.240 --> 00:31:26.010 Guilford Host1: i'm sorry correct and some abstaining Teresa, how do you vote.

323 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:28.260 Teresa Buchanan: Yes, that's fine.

324 00:31:28.620 --> 00:31:30.210 Guilford Host1: Okay subcommittee.

325 00:31:31.650 --> 00:31:32.670 Teresa Buchanan: i'm happy to do it.

326 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.510 Guilford Host1: Okay, thank you Teresa right emotion carries it's approved.

327 00:31:37.710 --> 00:31:39.930 Guilford Host1: Moving on to women and family life.

328 00:31:40.620 --> 00:31:42.060 Ann Street: Do you want the pictures back again.

329 00:31:44.190 --> 00:31:45.090 Guilford Host1: I don't think so.

330 00:31:45.810 --> 00:31:46.590 john cunningham: I don't think we do.

331 00:31:47.070 --> 00:31:48.810 Guilford Host1: john do you want to take a stab at emotion.

332 00:31:50.040 --> 00:31:52.200 john cunningham: yeah I make a motion to approve.

333 00:31:53.850 --> 00:31:57.540 john cunningham: As presented, I, like the I like the design of the sign.

334 00:31:58.890 --> 00:32:12.570 john cunningham: Just like this, I like to read into the motion that if they find the design, cannot be seen in the evening hours that they could move towards a low voltage direct.

335 00:32:14.040 --> 00:32:16.860 john cunningham: directional light that might be installed in the ground.

336 00:32:17.970 --> 00:32:26.190 Teresa Buchanan: Does that become already approved, even though they didn't apply for it, or can we can we that they're approved without applying again.

337 00:32:26.910 --> 00:32:27.300 Ann Street: I think.

338 00:32:27.360 --> 00:32:28.470 john cunningham: I think that's what I was trying.

339 00:32:29.010 --> 00:32:32.310 Ann Street: I think you have a problem going into the lighting, I mean, I agree with you.

340 00:32:32.580 --> 00:32:39.210 Ann Street: But yeah have a problem in process going to the lighting if that wasn't advertised.

341 00:32:39.600 --> 00:32:43.980 Ann Street: Because I think we are sensitive neighborhood up there, and if you're gonna do lighting I think in.

342 00:32:44.040 --> 00:32:45.180 john cunningham: yeah okay.

343 00:32:45.930 --> 00:32:49.380 Guilford Host1: Yes, so I mean you have to come back for the lighting.

344 00:32:49.830 --> 00:32:50.190 john cunningham: Right.

345 00:32:50.340 --> 00:32:57.300 john cunningham: Why don't we do why don't I do this Randy let me back up I won't make a motion let's go to the discussion first and what they think about the sign.

346 00:32:57.660 --> 00:32:58.020 Okay.

347 00:32:59.580 --> 00:33:04.800 Ann Street: really do you want to share some of the feedback that you got about about the reflecting and the light and all that stuff.

348 00:33:05.550 --> 00:33:10.140 Guilford Host1: yeah I got I got a call from an individual on unfair street.

349 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:25.110 Guilford Host1: And that that person was concerned about the street being residential and the sign being good enough as it was, and a concern about if the.

350 00:33:25.560 --> 00:33:38.850 Guilford Host1: If the sign is reflective it would sort of ball up in your face as you drill down the street with your lights on and it would would sort of blown up and and Blair up in your face.

351 00:33:39.900 --> 00:33:41.070 Guilford Host1: That was the concern.

352 00:33:43.860 --> 00:33:51.090 Guilford Host1: I after looking at the application and the photographs, I agree with john I think it's so far off the sidewalk I.

353 00:33:51.540 --> 00:33:53.340 john cunningham: I think it would be a stretch to.

354 00:33:53.340 --> 00:33:55.800 Guilford Host1: Even get the sign with the light in the first place.

355 00:33:57.630 --> 00:34:05.010 Ann Street: I kind of think the idea of having a small sign that's reflective is is a good.

356 00:34:06.360 --> 00:34:09.600 Ann Street: sort of substitute for for assignments lit all the time.

357 00:34:09.630 --> 00:34:18.210 Ann Street: Yes, lights up when you need it yeah um and it's going to light up like like the fireman best because it is a fairly small sign.

358 00:34:18.990 --> 00:34:20.070 john cunningham: yeah no I agree.

359 00:34:21.720 --> 00:34:32.460 john cunningham: I totally agree with him that if you can get a sign that can be lit by a headlight it's much better than having incidental light on that.

360 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:46.290 john cunningham: I just want to make sure that's a very important facility and they have their I just want to make sure that someone can find it if they had to when it was dark outside that was my whole thing about the ability.

361 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:58.500 Guilford Host1: And I know there's street lights unfair street and you have a certain amount of ambient light from from porch lights and and so forth, but I know and like you know November and December it's dark.

362 00:34:58.740 --> 00:34:59.250 john cunningham: But yeah.

363 00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:11.190 Ann Street: Let me ask john a question, and this is an talking again the ambient light will reflect the sign right don't you have to have direct headlight kind of action on to it.

364 00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:15.900 john cunningham: Well picture this if there are no cars in front of that house in.

365 00:35:16.290 --> 00:35:19.950 john cunningham: And you drove down that street going toward your House.

366 00:35:20.010 --> 00:35:21.990 john cunningham: Right and you had your high beams on.

367 00:35:21.990 --> 00:35:27.840 john cunningham: right that sign with like, if you had your normal headlights on you're probably still see it also.

368 00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:28.830 Ann Street: Right.

369 00:35:29.010 --> 00:35:33.990 john cunningham: But there's a car that there's a car parked in front of that unit I don't know if that's gonna happen.

370 00:35:34.380 --> 00:35:43.110 Ann Street: But I mean, even if there's no cars, just the street lights and stuff the ambient light won't make the sign reflect is that right, maybe not.

371 00:35:44.100 --> 00:35:50.010 john cunningham: Well, depends on how much lighting there is i'm pretty sure in that area fair street.

372 00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:51.780 Ann Street: there's no really bright.

373 00:35:52.170 --> 00:35:59.370 john cunningham: it's not lit up and they don't have any they don't really use the front door, so I mean there's no lighting on the front door yeah.

374 00:36:00.630 --> 00:36:02.070 john cunningham: it's all I think it's it.

375 00:36:03.090 --> 00:36:10.140 Teresa Buchanan: Did we approve lighting on the sign up at the corner for venues venues of thing, no, no.

376 00:36:10.230 --> 00:36:11.250 Teresa Buchanan: yeah well lighting.

377 00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:12.840 No.

378 00:36:14.190 --> 00:36:15.330 Ann Street: No sign no.

379 00:36:15.390 --> 00:36:16.650 Guilford Host1: No there's no light on their.

380 00:36:17.970 --> 00:36:21.390 Ann Street: street is lit up and CVs like explodes across.

381 00:36:21.420 --> 00:36:25.410 Guilford Host1: I mean there's plenty yeah that's well that's the corner of post road you've got Webster right.

382 00:36:27.060 --> 00:36:27.330 Teresa Buchanan: So.

383 00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:36.900 john cunningham: So then, then Randy they're not then how about this for emotion that all prove this, I would make a motion to approve the sign as presented.

384 00:36:38.370 --> 00:36:46.110 john cunningham: Without any know any mention of any lighting and that if they had to.

385 00:36:47.340 --> 00:36:56.310 john cunningham: If they had if they found that the light was not alone or the sign was not illuminated red lights, it would have to come back to her court with any company right.

386 00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:59.340 Teresa Buchanan: Okay, I think that sounds good.

387 00:37:00.120 --> 00:37:00.690 john cunningham: I can we have.

388 00:37:00.990 --> 00:37:01.440 Guilford Host1: A second.

389 00:37:02.010 --> 00:37:02.790 Ann Street: i'll second it.

390 00:37:03.690 --> 00:37:04.800 Guilford Host1: Today, all in favor.

391 00:37:06.120 --> 00:37:06.480 john cunningham: Aye.

392 00:37:06.750 --> 00:37:09.180 Guilford Host1: Aye yeah yes, yes.

393 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.140 Guilford Host1: So each unanimous motion carries Thank you.

394 00:37:15.060 --> 00:37:16.350 Kathy: need a subcommittee.

395 00:37:16.620 --> 00:37:17.970 Guilford Host1: yep so.

396 00:37:18.810 --> 00:37:21.870 john cunningham: I think I worked on the back parking lot with them on the back part.

397 00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:24.240 Guilford Host1: yeah I think you have yep.

398 00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:31.650 Guilford Host1: Okay, as far as the approval of the Minutes, the people that were here last week.

399 00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:36.330 Guilford Host1: or last month for me and and Michael Mann cne.

400 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.290 Guilford Host1: I think we need a quorum to approve the Minutes Is that correct Kathy.

401 00:37:41.340 --> 00:37:43.860 Guilford Host1: So we can delay the approval and Minister next month.

402 00:37:45.120 --> 00:37:55.260 Ann Street: Is it do you have to have the quorum from the people who are there, or if you have a quorum at the meeting, and you have two volts yes three votes abstaining doesn't that count.

403 00:37:55.530 --> 00:37:57.330 Kathy: Yes, it does yeah.

404 00:37:57.930 --> 00:37:59.490 Guilford Host1: Good so we do have a quorum.

405 00:37:59.730 --> 00:38:01.710 Guilford Host1: With me okay.

406 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.110 Kathy: yeah cuz Teresa makes the core and then she abstains because she wasn't at the meeting.

407 00:38:07.200 --> 00:38:08.280 Guilford Host1: Okay, so and.

408 00:38:09.600 --> 00:38:11.130 Ann Street: What your motion to.

409 00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:12.870 Ann Street: approve, as presented.

410 00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:13.830 All second.

411 00:38:15.780 --> 00:38:16.320 Guilford Host1: and

412 00:38:17.970 --> 00:38:20.370 Guilford Host1: So john will have to abstain.

413 00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:21.900 john cunningham: I wasn't there.

414 00:38:22.380 --> 00:38:22.740 hey.

415 00:38:24.060 --> 00:38:26.280 Ann Street: Teresa abstains and I vote yes.

416 00:38:26.490 --> 00:38:29.190 Guilford Host1: And so they Minister approved.

417 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:30.600 yay.

418 00:38:33.930 --> 00:38:34.590 john cunningham: Well guilford.

419 00:38:34.740 --> 00:38:35.940 move on for another month.

420 00:38:38.370 --> 00:38:39.090 Ann Street: yeah.

421 00:38:39.150 --> 00:38:42.510 Guilford Host1: yeah so chairman's report.

422 00:38:44.310 --> 00:38:45.540 Guilford Host1: And straight, have you got.

423 00:38:46.350 --> 00:38:47.310 Guilford Host1: A sworn in, yet.

424 00:38:47.550 --> 00:38:49.140 Ann Street: Yes, I did that yesterday.

425 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.890 Guilford Host1: Okay, so we have an for a few more years, thank you for.

426 00:38:53.430 --> 00:38:56.850 Ann Street: The rest of my natural life, I will never escape this condition.

427 00:38:58.350 --> 00:38:59.730 Guilford Host1: And as.

428 00:38:59.970 --> 00:39:02.580 Kathy: One thing when you say you see 2026.

429 00:39:02.970 --> 00:39:03.960 Ann Street: I know, really.

430 00:39:04.560 --> 00:39:06.060 Guilford Host1: As Kathy pointed out.

431 00:39:07.410 --> 00:39:10.950 Guilford Host1: To me earlier today, the newspaper has the.

432 00:39:12.150 --> 00:39:13.710 Guilford Host1: The proposed budget.

433 00:39:14.100 --> 00:39:15.960 Ann Street: Oh yes, I have it here.

434 00:39:16.170 --> 00:39:23.730 Guilford Host1: yeah and the public hearing is coming up what I presented they actually gave us a a raise because.

435 00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:25.920 Ann Street: I felt like.

436 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:30.900 Guilford Host1: Now we've been we've been bumped up from.

437 00:39:32.550 --> 00:39:38.580 Guilford Host1: On on the board and Commission Secretary from 1775 to 1825.

438 00:39:40.020 --> 00:39:44.070 Guilford Host1: So Kathy it's been proposed that Kathy and all the Commission.

439 00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:47.490 Guilford Host1: basis, you can always get a raise so that'll be voting on.

440 00:39:47.790 --> 00:39:51.870 Ann Street: At the $75 more you know $50 more.

441 00:39:52.290 --> 00:39:55.830 john cunningham: yep i'll make a motion to give the extra money to get these to.

442 00:39:56.550 --> 00:39:57.660 john cunningham: say I don't need it anymore.

443 00:39:58.140 --> 00:40:02.730 john cunningham: I don't need to get paid anymore for this for what I get right now is funny because.

444 00:40:05.520 --> 00:40:10.710 Kathy: I got excited because I heard that my hourly rate might go up by $1 an hour, rather than a quarter.

445 00:40:13.980 --> 00:40:16.380 Guilford Host1: You know what we'll have to contribute on.

446 00:40:16.740 --> 00:40:18.720 Guilford Host1: The call and everybody around for the vig.

447 00:40:21.090 --> 00:40:22.530 Guilford Host1: All right, that's the end of my report.

448 00:40:23.970 --> 00:40:35.430 Guilford Host1: I have a I have a bill here for secretarial services January 20 through February 16 for 195 25 I need a motion to approve.

449 00:40:36.750 --> 00:40:37.350 Ann Street: move to approve.

450 00:40:38.040 --> 00:40:42.780 Guilford Host1: i'll second one, second, thank you and everybody's in favor.

451 00:40:43.890 --> 00:40:44.280 john cunningham: yeah.

452 00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:46.980 Guilford Host1: Okay, everybody vote yes, thank you very much.

453 00:40:51.420 --> 00:40:59.670 Ann Street: So the if we're under correspondence you remember last time I said oh I got a letter from the.

454 00:41:00.870 --> 00:41:10.230 Ann Street: Can I get preservation people, it was addressed to us and Kathy said Oh, I already paid that and I couldn't find it at the time, but I have found it and you're right, it was the annual appeal.

455 00:41:11.130 --> 00:41:13.470 Ann Street: which I think we usually participate in.

456 00:41:15.570 --> 00:41:16.230 Ann Street: Okay, good.

457 00:41:16.410 --> 00:41:19.290 Guilford Host1: um I also have the preservation.

458 00:41:20.340 --> 00:41:26.070 Guilford Host1: magazine that got dropped off on my porch by a mysterious person.

459 00:41:27.120 --> 00:41:37.200 Guilford Host1: wearing glasses and if anybody wants to read out, let me know i'll leave it on a porch you could stop by and pick it up coven free you know social distancing.

460 00:41:38.160 --> 00:41:39.300 john cunningham: Sooner bag ready.

461 00:41:39.630 --> 00:41:40.140 Guilford Host1: In a.

462 00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:44.910 Guilford Host1: Class yeah right i'll make sure I wipe it off it good so okay.

463 00:41:46.380 --> 00:41:53.910 Guilford Host1: um last last month I emailed everybody to take a look at their unfinished she always does anybody have anything to take off.

464 00:41:55.380 --> 00:41:56.220 Ann Street: I do.

465 00:41:56.700 --> 00:41:57.450 Ann Street: We can take off.

466 00:41:57.540 --> 00:42:02.010 Ann Street: 823 which is mainsail capital you're all set.

467 00:42:02.790 --> 00:42:03.240 Okay.

468 00:42:06.780 --> 00:42:10.470 john cunningham: Randy I looked at the pre sent me no changes on me.

469 00:42:11.160 --> 00:42:12.750 john cunningham: Okay yeah.

470 00:42:14.040 --> 00:42:15.690 john cunningham: Somebody windows, is nothing.

471 00:42:16.020 --> 00:42:20.160 Guilford Host1: We got some of these from 2014 2016 2019.

472 00:42:21.570 --> 00:42:22.050 Guilford Host1: We got a.

473 00:42:22.110 --> 00:42:26.490 Teresa Buchanan: We got a really Randy you remove to the church doors and ramp yeah.

474 00:42:27.690 --> 00:42:28.080 Teresa Buchanan: I don't see.

475 00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:30.960 Ann Street: I don't know that we did we talked about that.

476 00:42:31.530 --> 00:42:32.070 Kathy: I thought we.

477 00:42:32.100 --> 00:42:35.160 Teresa Buchanan: took that off last last time yeah.

478 00:42:35.250 --> 00:42:35.640 it's.

479 00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:38.520 Teresa Buchanan: There finished with that part of it.

480 00:42:40.170 --> 00:42:45.330 john cunningham: Any I was on a I was on one that took a long time, it was a you can and residents.

481 00:42:46.530 --> 00:42:48.210 Guilford Host1: That took a couple years didn't it.

482 00:42:48.480 --> 00:42:52.710 john cunningham: yeah I don't know I don't know if it's even finished yet, but whatever it's.

483 00:42:52.740 --> 00:42:53.190 Looking.

484 00:42:54.840 --> 00:42:56.820 Ann Street: For that hedge to have leaves and make sure.

485 00:42:57.240 --> 00:42:58.170 I think that's it.

486 00:42:59.220 --> 00:43:00.720 john cunningham: doesn't leave out I don't think.

487 00:43:02.700 --> 00:43:07.950 Ann Street: Somebody somebody asked me about it, and I said they looked like they planted them, so it must be.

488 00:43:09.690 --> 00:43:09.900 Ann Street: What.

489 00:43:10.290 --> 00:43:12.960 Ann Street: Things look like that in my yard after they've been there for three.

490 00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:13.380 Teresa Buchanan: months.

491 00:43:13.620 --> 00:43:14.130 Guilford Host1: I got.

492 00:43:14.700 --> 00:43:17.610 Guilford Host1: A 41 done the congregational church driveway.

493 00:43:21.330 --> 00:43:22.530 Guilford Host1: driveway at the garage.

494 00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:26.280 Teresa Buchanan: look very good, so I was thinking, they still had more work to do.

495 00:43:26.310 --> 00:43:27.870 Guilford Host1: I think they're still working on it okay.

496 00:43:27.930 --> 00:43:29.430 Teresa Buchanan: I think they are it looks.

497 00:43:29.430 --> 00:43:29.970 Pretty.

498 00:43:31.560 --> 00:43:32.760 Teresa Buchanan: Unfair unfinished but.

499 00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:36.450 Kathy: He said last month that they've done that, and that was finished.

500 00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:37.890 Teresa Buchanan: I think he said they they.

501 00:43:38.010 --> 00:43:40.680 Ann Street: they're not they're not doing the part in the back.

502 00:43:40.920 --> 00:43:42.270 Teresa Buchanan: At this point, they're not doing the.

503 00:43:43.020 --> 00:43:45.870 Guilford Host1: Talking about the part in front of the garage yeah.

504 00:43:46.500 --> 00:43:47.850 Guilford Host1: Well, one state street.

505 00:43:48.180 --> 00:43:51.510 Kathy: yeah on state street I thought he said last month i've done that.

506 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:56.820 Kathy: And then we we denied the other piece so they'll have to again.

507 00:43:57.450 --> 00:43:57.990 Ann Street: Okay, so.

508 00:43:59.340 --> 00:44:01.500 Teresa Buchanan: It looks terrible but I guess it's done.

509 00:44:04.230 --> 00:44:06.660 Guilford Host1: I don't think that we're going to spend a lot of money on it or we're just gonna.

510 00:44:06.660 --> 00:44:08.940 Teresa Buchanan: Work yeah that's what it looks like.

511 00:44:09.120 --> 00:44:09.480 Ann Street: We take.

512 00:44:10.020 --> 00:44:10.680 Ann Street: The schedule.

513 00:44:12.210 --> 00:44:14.010 Teresa Buchanan: Oh yeah you can take the head off and the.

514 00:44:14.190 --> 00:44:14.610 Ann Street: gate.

515 00:44:15.150 --> 00:44:17.250 Teresa Buchanan: The gate the gate in the head you're done.

516 00:44:18.180 --> 00:44:18.750 Kathy: Which one.

517 00:44:19.290 --> 00:44:20.430 Ann Street: 838.

518 00:44:20.700 --> 00:44:22.380 Kathy: Oh 830 okay thanks.

519 00:44:23.520 --> 00:44:27.660 Teresa Buchanan: I would like to go, I would like to have a little discussion about.

520 00:44:29.310 --> 00:44:35.190 Teresa Buchanan: 22 broad whatever number that is i'm not looking at the numbers and.

521 00:44:36.900 --> 00:44:41.880 Teresa Buchanan: 2222 broad street the windows that i'm on the.

522 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:43.440 Teresa Buchanan: set on the.

523 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:44.220 Broad.

524 00:44:45.540 --> 00:44:46.260 Ann Street: Broad street.

525 00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:47.970 Teresa Buchanan: But when that was listed.

526 00:44:48.210 --> 00:44:48.450 Teresa Buchanan: yeah.

527 00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:50.160 Ann Street: 66 is what we just did.

528 00:44:50.460 --> 00:44:52.710 Teresa Buchanan: 22 is further down the street.

529 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:53.160 Teresa Buchanan: And it's.

530 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.500 Teresa Buchanan: My things what.

531 00:44:55.530 --> 00:44:56.520 Ann Street: What number here.

532 00:44:56.820 --> 00:44:58.980 Teresa Buchanan: Let me pull it up sorry i'm not looking at it.

533 00:45:00.750 --> 00:45:01.650 Kathy: The owner's name.

534 00:45:02.160 --> 00:45:03.270 Guilford Host1: Oh 839.

535 00:45:04.290 --> 00:45:05.250 Guilford Host1: took terrelle.

536 00:45:06.660 --> 00:45:07.950 Guilford Host1: windows and front door.

537 00:45:08.940 --> 00:45:09.330 Teresa Buchanan: Oh yeah.

538 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:13.170 Guilford Host1: yeah.

539 00:45:13.380 --> 00:45:15.840 Ann Street: Sorry that's TIM sperry is.

540 00:45:16.680 --> 00:45:17.610 Teresa Buchanan: Yes, exactly.

541 00:45:17.970 --> 00:45:19.050 Ann Street: I think that's fun.

542 00:45:21.660 --> 00:45:21.780 Guilford Host1: To.

543 00:45:22.500 --> 00:45:26.190 Teresa Buchanan: talk to you about it it's not finished, I want to discuss it.

544 00:45:26.490 --> 00:45:27.240 Ann Street: Oh OK.

545 00:45:27.420 --> 00:45:28.890 john cunningham: Now, yes.

546 00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:29.790 Ann Street: Right okay.

547 00:45:30.090 --> 00:45:32.910 Teresa Buchanan: So they haven't started on it yet.

548 00:45:33.450 --> 00:45:33.990 um.

549 00:45:35.490 --> 00:45:46.110 Teresa Buchanan: And russ is doing it they're replacing the windows and I just forwarded an email to you and that I wasn't sure whether you could pull up and share.

550 00:45:46.470 --> 00:46:07.590 Teresa Buchanan: But essentially the windows, that the marvin windows that they rust was going to put in, there are too deep for the old plank wall in the front, so he wants to make the front of the windows look like the mackenzie's windows down at the corner, which is like an inch and a half.

551 00:46:08.730 --> 00:46:13.350 Teresa Buchanan: Deep trim on the outside, whereas right now the trim is flush against the wall.

552 00:46:14.610 --> 00:46:23.430 Teresa Buchanan: And he wants to put the horns on the bottom and the Crown on the top so yeah I wanted everybody to look at that window that's the mackenzie's window.

553 00:46:23.490 --> 00:46:32.550 Teresa Buchanan: Right and what we approved didn't have the Crown and didn't have the horns on the bottom, and it was very flushed to the.

554 00:46:33.750 --> 00:46:35.580 Teresa Buchanan: collaborates but.

555 00:46:35.970 --> 00:46:42.420 Teresa Buchanan: Right saying all the windows are are much deeper than what he's got.

556 00:46:42.780 --> 00:46:48.600 Teresa Buchanan: Right, he wants to make the trim on the exterior deeper and put a Crown and horns on it.

557 00:46:49.020 --> 00:46:56.400 Ann Street: So what's going on here is the when when you have a building where the windows sit out like that.

558 00:46:56.730 --> 00:46:57.180 Teresa Buchanan: What that.

559 00:46:57.390 --> 00:47:03.450 Ann Street: tells you is that this is supposedly is a plank wall building right.

560 00:47:03.600 --> 00:47:04.080 Teresa Buchanan: We have.

561 00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:16.920 Ann Street: The windows that are put in from the outside and and theoretically, they would just be like the the whole would be smaller and all of this part here would overlap.

562 00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:30.420 Ann Street: The sidewall and it would just be pinned in whoops pinned in a couple of places here sort of stuck in from the front, rather than the way we do it now to sort of build them into the wall cavity.

563 00:47:31.950 --> 00:47:34.680 Ann Street: So I don't know what the windows look like on that House now.

564 00:47:35.310 --> 00:47:43.230 Teresa Buchanan: But or well it's a it's a it's a plank wall, the front of the House is a there might be something in this email, can you scroll down.

565 00:47:43.290 --> 00:47:43.680 Okay.

566 00:47:46.680 --> 00:47:48.300 Teresa Buchanan: nope that's still mackenzie's.

567 00:47:49.560 --> 00:47:54.360 Teresa Buchanan: Sorry go back, I think the very bottom if you can open those drawings at the bottom.

568 00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:57.480 Teresa Buchanan: The existence is that.

569 00:47:57.570 --> 00:47:59.040 Ann Street: Oh wait a minute it's not.

570 00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:04.140 Ann Street: I gotta find my screen again.

571 00:48:10.830 --> 00:48:12.450 Ann Street: And then I can let my dog out to.

572 00:48:13.020 --> 00:48:14.790 john cunningham: ready I gotta go to okay.

573 00:48:14.910 --> 00:48:17.880 john cunningham: Thank you john okay take care, everyone.

574 00:48:19.530 --> 00:48:26.580 Teresa Buchanan: So if you just look at the front of the House, the existing front elevation if you I think it's above.

575 00:48:28.500 --> 00:48:31.320 Teresa Buchanan: yeah So if you look at the existing here.

576 00:48:34.740 --> 00:48:44.970 Teresa Buchanan: The existing is just very plain flat trim around the old windows that are inset in this inner plank wall.

577 00:48:46.590 --> 00:48:55.440 Teresa Buchanan: And there's no horns on the sales at the bottom and there's no crown across the top, and that is originally what we were going to do.

578 00:48:55.980 --> 00:48:58.290 Ann Street: Is Sir there's no picture is there.

579 00:48:58.950 --> 00:48:59.670 Teresa Buchanan: No there's no.

580 00:49:00.450 --> 00:49:04.590 Ann Street: windows don't don't sit out on the outside of the building they're there.

581 00:49:04.890 --> 00:49:20.340 Teresa Buchanan: They do not right sorry scroll up just a little bit the existing is actually the one above with the shutters so there nope go back down sorry this this one with the shutters is what is existing so that's how the windows look now.

582 00:49:21.330 --> 00:49:24.840 Teresa Buchanan: But we then what we approved is what's right below it.

583 00:49:26.100 --> 00:49:27.810 Teresa Buchanan: Which we're going to be just in.

584 00:49:28.050 --> 00:49:28.380 Teresa Buchanan: You know.

585 00:49:29.430 --> 00:49:35.370 Teresa Buchanan: The same thing, without the shutters what what russ is saying is that once they.

586 00:49:37.170 --> 00:49:54.510 Teresa Buchanan: Once they dug into it the jam depth of the plank wall is only three and three quarters inch deep and both the marvin and two other windows that he's been trying to look at to replace it with the they require a four and seven nights jam.

587 00:49:55.800 --> 00:50:16.110 Teresa Buchanan: They don't want to replace all the interior trim they were hoping to keep the interior trim as is and window would then stick out a little bit like by so it'll be an inch and instead of a quarter to a half inch the trim on the outside, will be one and a half inches proud siding.

588 00:50:17.610 --> 00:50:22.350 Teresa Buchanan: And so that's why that it'll look like this, like the mackenzie's window when.

589 00:50:22.350 --> 00:50:25.230 Guilford Host1: It drastically changes the look of the House.

590 00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:27.660 Teresa Buchanan: It that it will.

591 00:50:27.900 --> 00:50:44.460 Guilford Host1: And, and what I don't understand the difference of adding on trim on the outside versus adding on trim on the inside, which which which, if you add the trim on the inside the House would look pretty much the same as it is with replacement windows.

592 00:50:45.750 --> 00:50:49.080 Ann Street: yeah but here, let me go back to this.

593 00:50:49.710 --> 00:51:00.330 Teresa Buchanan: yeah I don't have any photos of the Interior, I said the same thing to russ and he said they really don't want to well we do all the trim on the inside.

594 00:51:00.600 --> 00:51:08.460 Ann Street: yeah and besides that you know if you if you put basically this look on the out on the inside of the building.

595 00:51:09.960 --> 00:51:10.290 Teresa Buchanan: yeah.

596 00:51:10.590 --> 00:51:14.040 Ann Street: For is he doing all the windows are just some of the windows.

597 00:51:14.850 --> 00:51:15.300 Teresa Buchanan: Just the.

598 00:51:18.180 --> 00:51:23.880 Teresa Buchanan: The front ones, are the ones that he put in the application for I think I think it's just fun ones.

599 00:51:26.280 --> 00:51:42.090 Ann Street: Well, I mean it is making the House be something that it wasn't before um I don't know what kind of windows mackenzie used on his house My guess is that he's like super custom probably mauer and shepherd like you use Teresa.

600 00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:45.750 Teresa Buchanan: You know my mind we're marvin.

601 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:48.000 Teresa Buchanan: yeah.

602 00:51:49.620 --> 00:51:50.220 Teresa Buchanan: how's your House.

603 00:51:50.490 --> 00:51:52.050 Ann Street: Your House a plank wall to.

604 00:51:53.460 --> 00:52:04.170 Teresa Buchanan: Not the north side, the South side is so I will run into the same problem when I save up enough money to do the ones on the front, but the north side was not because it was an extension.

605 00:52:05.700 --> 00:52:07.320 Teresa Buchanan: So I didn't have.

606 00:52:07.980 --> 00:52:10.080 Ann Street: He wants to put these little caps on.

607 00:52:10.530 --> 00:52:17.040 Teresa Buchanan: He does once they stick out like this, an inch and a half, then he wants to put the friends and the horns as well.

608 00:52:17.100 --> 00:52:21.180 Ann Street: Because, because you will you at least have to put this shelf on the top.

609 00:52:21.390 --> 00:52:21.780 Ann Street: Right.

610 00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:23.970 Ann Street: The whole thing leak.

611 00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:28.800 Ann Street: Exactly so you've got to have you've got to have flashing up under here.

612 00:52:29.610 --> 00:52:30.060 Teresa Buchanan: And, yes.

613 00:52:30.180 --> 00:52:32.700 Ann Street: Now the CAP here is is covered in.

614 00:52:34.080 --> 00:52:34.650 Ann Street: copper.

615 00:52:34.950 --> 00:52:40.710 Ann Street: Yes, and then, and you got to have this big enough to cover the whole window and.

616 00:52:40.710 --> 00:52:44.790 Ann Street: So i'm some kind of molding underneath it to.

617 00:52:45.240 --> 00:52:47.580 Ann Street: yeah the normal.

618 00:52:48.180 --> 00:52:55.800 Teresa Buchanan: yeah I mean I it's just the next House over isn't it it's all Is it right next door to those McKenna.

619 00:52:56.850 --> 00:52:58.140 Ann Street: field and then there's the.

620 00:52:59.160 --> 00:53:05.040 Teresa Buchanan: Various yeah I mean I kind of understand, and I think it would be hard to.

621 00:53:07.560 --> 00:53:11.250 Teresa Buchanan: say no to their house, but we did it we said yes to the mackenzie's.

622 00:53:12.510 --> 00:53:12.690 Ann Street: Web.

623 00:53:15.450 --> 00:53:20.940 Ann Street: series House has um can you still see the drawing or Do I need to go back and do that again.

624 00:53:21.210 --> 00:53:22.860 Teresa Buchanan: You have to go back and do that again.

625 00:53:26.910 --> 00:53:29.100 Ann Street: amazed that I am as good at this, as I am.

626 00:53:29.220 --> 00:53:29.580 Right.

627 00:53:30.900 --> 00:53:31.980 Teresa Buchanan: i'm very impressed.

628 00:53:32.130 --> 00:53:35.610 Kathy: I don't ever member of proving anything at the mackenzie's house.

629 00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:41.670 Teresa Buchanan: Well, it was a long time ago, but we did i'm sure they had to apply.

630 00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:47.940 Teresa Buchanan: When when this is worth moved out of it and they redid the whole thing.

631 00:53:50.520 --> 00:53:51.300 Teresa Buchanan: i'm sure we did.

632 00:53:52.980 --> 00:53:56.670 Kathy: I don't know next time I get into town hall I look and see if we have a file.

633 00:53:57.240 --> 00:54:00.000 Ann Street: This is the one on broad street not that we can see unfair.

634 00:54:01.350 --> 00:54:01.770 Teresa Buchanan: yeah.

635 00:54:01.860 --> 00:54:03.090 Teresa Buchanan: Okay, this is.

636 00:54:04.170 --> 00:54:04.530 Teresa Buchanan: wrong.

637 00:54:04.740 --> 00:54:07.410 Ann Street: person first at the corner that.

638 00:54:09.510 --> 00:54:13.590 Teresa Buchanan: I definitely remember we approved to the screened in porch on the.

639 00:54:14.370 --> 00:54:16.320 Kathy: Sorry, I was thinking of Ken mackenzie.

640 00:54:16.770 --> 00:54:17.160 Ann Street: No, no.

641 00:54:17.190 --> 00:54:18.000 Ann Street: This is done.

642 00:54:18.330 --> 00:54:18.840 Kathy: On one.

643 00:54:19.980 --> 00:54:20.610 Ann Street: But she.

644 00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:23.010 Teresa Buchanan: isn't kenzie.

645 00:54:24.030 --> 00:54:25.020 Ann Street: They are both Ken.

646 00:54:25.080 --> 00:54:28.680 Ann Street: yeah, so this is, this is the sun can.

647 00:54:29.070 --> 00:54:29.610 Teresa Buchanan: I see.

648 00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:30.030 Teresa Buchanan: Is.

649 00:54:30.390 --> 00:54:32.280 Ann Street: A Center first house on on.

650 00:54:33.390 --> 00:54:33.810 Ann Street: Right.

651 00:54:33.870 --> 00:54:35.880 Teresa Buchanan: On the River at broad street yeah.

652 00:54:36.210 --> 00:54:38.850 Ann Street: And dad can live stream.

653 00:54:39.090 --> 00:54:40.410 Kathy: Katrina worse house.

654 00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:41.820 Teresa Buchanan: Right right yeah.

655 00:54:43.140 --> 00:54:51.900 Ann Street: In some ways, I mean the facade of this House, although I think it's shorter than the mackenzie's house.

656 00:54:55.980 --> 00:55:00.540 Ann Street: But what this door can sort of hold up a little better, I think, to.

657 00:55:02.940 --> 00:55:05.850 Ann Street: To the detail if you look at the.

658 00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:11.490 Guilford Host1: Are you saying it mimics what russ is proposing, with the.

659 00:55:12.870 --> 00:55:14.100 Guilford Host1: The capsule look.

660 00:55:14.190 --> 00:55:18.780 Ann Street: If you look at this, I mean the the the door at the mackenzie's house.

661 00:55:18.990 --> 00:55:19.230 Guilford Host1: yeah.

662 00:55:19.440 --> 00:55:20.880 Teresa Buchanan: You can see it, I mean it's really.

663 00:55:20.910 --> 00:55:28.470 Ann Street: Like kind of a soft moment on this House is pretty pretty butch house yeah.

664 00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:33.540 Ann Street: But the door the frame around the door is kind of a wimp.

665 00:55:33.960 --> 00:55:34.500 Ann Street: Computer.

666 00:55:35.310 --> 00:55:36.240 Teresa Buchanan: And I that.

667 00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:42.450 Ann Street: I think that those those really heavy windows will stand up better on.

668 00:55:43.140 --> 00:55:43.860 Teresa Buchanan: On the space.

669 00:55:45.450 --> 00:55:49.260 Ann Street: On the series house, because where did it go.

670 00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:50.970 papers.

671 00:55:52.560 --> 00:55:53.220 Ann Street: Because it.

672 00:55:56.580 --> 00:55:57.750 Ann Street: He has that really.

673 00:55:59.160 --> 00:56:00.450 Ann Street: elaborate Greek.

674 00:56:01.080 --> 00:56:13.710 Ann Street: yeah doric yep door, I mean and even with even even to the capitals with I mean like I asked them right there nothing like nothing right right on the base.

675 00:56:14.070 --> 00:56:18.720 Ann Street: You know, had a stole or anything that's really quite spectacular.

676 00:56:20.550 --> 00:56:21.000 Ann Street: So.

677 00:56:21.210 --> 00:56:24.390 Teresa Buchanan: You know my view is, I think it would be fine.

678 00:56:24.480 --> 00:56:26.340 Teresa Buchanan: and removing the shutters.

679 00:56:27.450 --> 00:56:28.260 Ann Street: is a good move.

680 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:29.850 Teresa Buchanan: it's such a good move.

681 00:56:29.940 --> 00:56:31.890 Teresa Buchanan: and think it'll look fine.

682 00:56:32.790 --> 00:56:35.100 Guilford Host1: yeah I don't have any objections Teresa I think.

683 00:56:36.390 --> 00:56:45.750 Ann Street: yeah I mean this this Greek door surround is is pretty pretty butch and I think the windows will be fine.

684 00:56:46.080 --> 00:56:48.390 Ann Street: Well, though these are kind of squatting windows.

685 00:56:48.930 --> 00:56:55.350 Guilford Host1: But they you know the windows as they're drawn look underpowered when you look at the door and the pediment you know.

686 00:56:56.010 --> 00:56:56.460 Guilford Host1: I think.

687 00:56:56.490 --> 00:56:58.710 Teresa Buchanan: I think what we're proposing would would.

688 00:56:59.220 --> 00:57:01.440 Guilford Host1: Probably go better with the door.

689 00:57:02.580 --> 00:57:17.580 Teresa Buchanan: Okay, all right, I will let us know he's he's out of town, but I, he asked me, and I, whether it could be just the subcommittee me to saying approval or no, or what right and that's why I wanted to bring it up to you guys.

690 00:57:18.990 --> 00:57:23.160 Kathy: Can you send me a copy of his email and documents, so I can put it in the file.

691 00:57:23.580 --> 00:57:24.510 Teresa Buchanan: yep i'll do that.

692 00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:26.640 Ann Street: I can probably send you this.

693 00:57:28.230 --> 00:57:32.010 Ann Street: I can sell I can I can forward the email that Teresa just.

694 00:57:32.010 --> 00:57:36.150 Teresa Buchanan: said okay that's fine it has yeah.

695 00:57:36.450 --> 00:57:38.310 Kathy: Just so i'll have it in the file, so we know what we.

696 00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:40.830 Ann Street: Let me see where did it go.

697 00:57:41.160 --> 00:57:43.680 Teresa Buchanan: yeah I think you have everything in there.

698 00:57:45.060 --> 00:57:49.200 Teresa Buchanan: All the documents are in there and what russ wants to do so that's fine yeah.

699 00:57:49.770 --> 00:57:50.400 OK OK.

700 00:57:51.750 --> 00:57:52.530 Guilford Host1: I think that's.

701 00:57:52.830 --> 00:57:54.000 Teresa Buchanan: that's all I had.

702 00:57:55.110 --> 00:57:57.690 Guilford Host1: So i'll need a motion to close the meeting.

703 00:57:59.340 --> 00:58:01.500 Teresa Buchanan: I will make that motion to close the meeting.

704 00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:11.400 Ann Street: Okay, I just sent the i'll second it I just sent the email to Randy and i'm gonna let my dog in and yeah.

705 00:58:12.270 --> 00:58:13.650 Kathy: Okay, thanks.

706 00:58:13.770 --> 00:58:14.670 Guilford Host1: Alright, thank you.

707 00:58:15.270 --> 00:58:16.590 Teresa Buchanan: guys, thank you.

708 00:58:17.100 --> 00:58:17.790 Guilford Host1: Thanks Kathy.

709 00:58:20.220 --> 00:58:21.600 Kathy: Kathy shoveling tomorrow.

710 00:58:21.870 --> 00:58:22.470 Teresa Buchanan: I know.