NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE MINEOLA, NEW YORK FOURTEENTH MEETING OCTOBER 20, 2014 1:00 P.M. 1. Legislative Meeting
Documents: 10-20-14.PDF 2. Rules Committee Agenda
Documents: R-10-20-14..PDF 3. Proposed Ordinance 136-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-136-14.PDF 4. Proposed Ordinance 137-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-137-14.PDF 5. Proposed Ordinance 138-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-138-14.PDF 6. Proposed Ordinance 139-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-139-14.PDF 7. Proposed Ordinance 140-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-140-14.PDF 8. Proposed Ordinance 141-14
Documents: PROPOSED-RD-141-14.PDF 9. Proposed Ordinance 142-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-142-14.PDF 10. Rules 10-20-14
Documents: RULES 10-20-14.PDF 11. Full 10-20-14
Documents: FULL 10-20-14.PDF PUBLIC NOTICE
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THE NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE WILL HOLD A MEETING OF THE RULES COMMITTEE
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MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2014 AT 1:00 P.M.
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THE PETER J. SCHMITT MEMORIAL LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER THEODORE ROOSEVELT EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BUILDING 1550 FRANKLIN AVENUE, MINEOLA, NEW YORK
William Muller III Clerk of the Legislature Nassau County, New York
DATED: October 14, 2014 Mineola, NY
As per the Nassau County Fire Marshall’s Office, the Legislative Chamber has a maximum occupancy of 251 people and the outer chamber which will stream the meeting live, has a maximum occupancy of 72. Passes will be distributed on a first come first served basis beginning one half hour before the meeting begins. Public comment is limited to agenda items. The Nassau County Legislature is committed to making its public meetings accessible to individuals with disabilities and every reasonable accommodation will be made so that they can participate. Please contact the Office of the Clerk of the Legislature at 571-4252, or the Nassau County Office for the Physically Challenged at 227-7101 or TDD Telephone No. 227-8989 if any assistance is needed. Every Legislative meeting is streamed live on Here NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE MINEOLA, NEW YORK FOURTEENTH MEETING OCTOBER 20, 2014 1:00 P.M. 1. Legislative Meeting
Documents: 10-20-14.PDF 2. Rules Committee Agenda
Documents: R-10-20-14..PDF 3. Proposed Ordinance 136-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-136-14.PDF 4. Proposed Ordinance 137-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-137-14.PDF 5. Proposed Ordinance 138-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-138-14.PDF 6. Proposed Ordinance 139-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-139-14.PDF 7. Proposed Ordinance 140-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-140-14.PDF 8. Proposed Ordinance 141-14
Documents: PROPOSED-RD-141-14.PDF 9. Proposed Ordinance 142-14
Documents: PROPOSED-ORD-142-14.PDF 10. Rules 10-20-14
Documents: RULES 10-20-14.PDF 11. Full 10-20-14
Documents: FULL 10-20-14.PDF PUBLIC NOTICE
PLEASE TAKE NOTICE THAT THE NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE WILL HOLD A MEETING OF THE RULES COMMITTEE
ON
MONDAY, OCTOBER 20, 2014 AT 1:00 P.M.
IN
THE PETER J. SCHMITT MEMORIAL LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER THEODORE ROOSEVELT EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE BUILDING 1550 FRANKLIN AVENUE, MINEOLA, NEW YORK
William Muller III Clerk of the Legislature Nassau County, New York
DATED: October 14, 2014 Mineola, NY
As per the Nassau County Fire Marshall’s Office, the Legislative Chamber has a maximum occupancy of 251 people and the outer chamber which will stream the meeting live, has a maximum occupancy of 72. Passes will be distributed on a first come first served basis beginning one half hour before the meeting begins. Public comment is limited to agenda items. The Nassau County Legislature is committed to making its public meetings accessible to individuals with disabilities and every reasonable accommodation will be made so that they can participate. Please contact the Office of the Clerk of the Legislature at 571-4252, or the Nassau County Office for the Physically Challenged at 227-7101 or TDD Telephone No. 227-8989 if any assistance is needed. Every Legislative meeting is streamed live on Here L E G I S L A T I V E C A L E N D A R
NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE MINEOLA, NEW YORK FOURTEENTH MEETING OCTOBER 20, 2014 1:00 P.M. FOURTEENTH MEETING OF 2014
THE NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE IS COMMITTED TO MAKING ITS PUBLIC MEETING ACCESSIBLE TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES. IF, DUE TO A DISABILITY, YOU NEED AN ACCOMMODATION OR ASSISTANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC MEETING OR TO OBTAIN A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ALTERNATIVE FORMAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT, PLEASE CONTACT THE OFFICE OF THE CLERK OF THE LEGISLATURE AT 571-4252, OR THE NASSAU COUNTY OFFICE FOR THE PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED AT 227-7101 OR TDD TELEPHONE NO. 227-8989. AS PER THE NASSAU COUNTY FIRE MARSHAL’S OFFICE, THE PETER J. SCHMITT MEMORIAL LEGISLATIVE CHAMBER HAS A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF 251 PEOPLE AND THE OUTER CHAMBER WHICH WILL STREAM THE MEETING LIVE, HAS A MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY OF 72. PASSES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVED BASIS BEGINNING ONE HALF HOUR BEFORE MEETING TIME.
EVERY LEGISLATIVE MEETING IS STREAMED LIVE ON http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/Legis/index.html.
1. ORDINANCE NO. 136-2014
AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE TO FINANCE THE PAYMENT OF CERTAIN PAYMENTS BY THE COUNTY OF NASSAU TO CSEA NASSAU COMMUNITY COLLEGE EMPLOYEES UPON SEPARATION FROM EMPLOYMENT, AUTHORIZING $2,141,296.58 OF BONDS OF THE COUNTY OF NASSAU TO FINANCE SAID EXPENDITURE, AND MAKING CERTAIN DETERMINATIONS PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL FINANCE LAW OF NEW YORK AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT LAW OF NASSAU COUNTY. 443- 14(OMB)
2. ORDINANCE NO. 137-2014
AN ORDINANCE PROVIDING FOR A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE TO FINANCE THE PAYMENT OF CERTAIN PAYMENTS BY THE COUNTY OF NASSAU TO CSEA EMPLOYEES UPON SEPARATION FROM EMPLOYMENT, AUTHORIZING $5,592,398.50 OF BONDS OF THE COUNTY OF NASSAU TO FINANCE SAID EXPENDITURE, AND MAKING CERTAIN DETERMINATIONS PURSUANT TO THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW ACT, PURSUANT TO THE LOCAL FINANCE LAW OF NEW YORK AND THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT LAW OF NASSAU COUNTY. 444-14(OMB)
3. ORDINANCE NO. 138-2014
AN ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES. 439-14(OMB)
4. ORDINANCE NO. 139-2014
AN ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES. 440-14(OMB)
5. ORDINANCE NO. 140-2014
AN ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY SERVICES. 441-14(OMB)
6. ORDINANCE NO. 141-2014
AN ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF MENTAL HEALTH, CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY AND DEVELOPMENT DISABILITY SERVICES. 442-14(OMB)
7. ORDINANCE NO. 142-2014
AN ORDINANCE SUPPLEMENTAL TO THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF TOXICOLOGY/MEDICAL EXAMINER. 445-14(OMB)
8. RESOLUTION NO. 202-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY OF NASSAU TO ENTER INTO THE REQUIRED SUBRECIPIENT AGREEMENT WITH THE HOUSING TRUST FUND CORPORATION AS REQUIRED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NY STATE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT-DISASTER RECOVERY (CDBG-DR) PROGRAM; AND, TO AUTHORIZE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO SIGN ANY AND ALL DOCUMENTS REQUIRED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE PROGRAM. 436-14(PW)
9. RESOLUTION NO. 203-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE HERRICKS PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO DESIGN, PROCURE AND CONSTRUCT A PAVED PARKING LOT AT THE HERRICKS COMMUNITY CENTER. 427-14(CE)
10. RESOLUTION NO. 204-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE GARDEN CITY PARK FIRE DISTRICT IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO PURCHASE AN EMERGENCY MEDICAL UTILITY VEHICLE FOR THE DISTRICT. 428-14(CE)
11. RESOLUTION NO. 205-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE VALLEY STREAM UNION FREE SCHOOL DISTRICT NO. 24 IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO INSTALL EXTERIOR SECURITY CAMERAS AND LIGHTING AND BASKETBALL BACKBOARDS AND HOOPS AT SCHOOLS IN THE DISTRICT. 429-14(CE)
12. RESOLUTION NO. 206-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN OF OYSTER BAY IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO PROCURE AND/OR INSTALL ALARM SIREN(S) AT LOCATION(S) SPECIFIED BY THE ATLANTIC STEAMER FIRE COMPANY NO. 1. 430-14(CE)
13. RESOLUTION NO. 207-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGE OF ISLAND PARK IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO PURCHASE AND INSTALL TEN TRASH RECEPTACLES. 437-14(CE)
14. RESOLUTION NO. 208-2014
A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE TO EXECUTE AN INTER-MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE VILLAGE OF ISLAND PARK IN RELATION TO A PROJECT TO REHABILITATE FOUR BEACH RESTROOMS, THE MAINTENANCE BUILDING AND THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL BUILDING AT MASONE BEACH. 438-14(CE)
15. RESOLUTION NO. 209-2014
A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT A GIFT OFFERED BY A DONOR TO THE NASSAU COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT. 434-14(PD)
16. RESOLUTION NO. 210-2014
A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATIONS HERETOFORE MADE WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR 2014. 432-14(OMB)
17. RESOLUTION NO. 211-2014
A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATIONS HERETOFORE MADE WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR 2014. 433-14(OMB)
18. RESOLUTION NO. 212-2014
A RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF APPROPRIATIONS HERETOFORE MADE WITHIN THE BUDGET FOR THE YEAR 2014. 435-14(OMB)
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NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that the County Executive has executed the following personal service agreements, copies of which are on file with the Clerk of the County Legislature. These agreements are subject to approval or review, by the Rules Committee, and are listed for informational purposes.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and BIFFCO Foundation. RE: Professional Services. $24,000.00. ID# CQPK14000058.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and Dr. K’s Motown Revue. RE: Lakeside Concert. $3,500.00. ID# CQPK14000077.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and Party Up Productions. RE: Professional Services. $24,900.00. ID# CQPK14000082.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and Leon Petruzzi Jazz Orchestra. RE: Chelsea Concert. $2,400.00. ID# CQPK14000083.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and Steve Dassa Entertainment. RE: Lakeside Noontime Concerts. $20,300.00. ID # CQPK14000084.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and 710 Productions Inc. RE: Production, Consulting and Sound Equipment for Lakeside Theatre. $15,000.00. ID# CQPK14000088.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Museums and New York Radio Assets LLC. RE: Lakeside Concert. $24,900.00. ID# CQPK14000097.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Jewish Association for Services for the Aged (JASA). RE: Adult Guardianships. $.01. ID# CQSS14000064.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Abbott House. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000073.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Regina Maternity Services Corp dba Regina Residence, Catholic Charities. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000079.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Whitney Academy. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000071.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Green Chimneys Children’s Services. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000072.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Astor Home for Children & Families. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000074.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and The William George Agency for Children’s Services. RE: Foster Care Services. $.02. ID# CQSS14000076.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and American School for the Deaf. RE: Foster Care/CSE Services. $.01. ID# CLSS14000027.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Logisticare Solutions, LLC. RE: Coordination of Medical Transportation. $584,048.00. ID# CLSS14000040.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and The Bonadio Group. RE: Medicaid Fraud Services. $.01. ID# CLSS14000041.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Social Services and Center for Developmental Disabilities, Inc.. RE: Foster Care/CSE Services. $.01. ID# CLSS14000045.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Health and United Way of Long Island, Inc.. RE: Health & Human HIV/AIDS Grant Administration. $5,613,474.00. ID# CQHE14000004.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Human Services, Office of the Aging and American Family & Children’s Association. RE: Counseling (SFC) HICAP/MIPPA. $37,271.00. ID# CLHS14000013.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Human Services, Office of Youth Services and YES Community Counseling Center, Inc. RE: Youth Development/Delinquency Prevention. $25,000.00. ID# CLHS14000018.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Human Services, Office of Youth Services and Littig House Community Center, Inc.. RE: Youth Development/Delinquency Prevention. $6,150.00. ID# CLHS14000019.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Office of the County Attorney and Ultimate Process Service, Inc. (Craig L. Eisenberg). RE: Process Servers. $.01. ID# CLAT14000023.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of the Department of Public Works, Real Estate and the Village of Hempstead. RE: Parking Spots in the Incorporated Village of Hempstead. $510,900.00. ID# CQPW14000023.
County of Nassau acting on behalf of Police and ShotSpotter, Inc. RE: Gunshot Detection & Location System. $90,307.00. ID# CLPD14000005.
THE NASSAU COUNTY LEGISLATURE WILL CONVENE NEXT
COMMITTEE MEETINGS MONDAY NOVEMBER 3, 2014 at 1:00PM AND FULL LEGISLATURE MEETING MONDAY NOVEMBER 17, 2014 at 1:00PM
Clerk Item Proposed Assigned Summary No. By To A-48-14 PR R RESOLUTION NO. -2014 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF NASSAU COUNTY OFFICE OF PURCHASING TO REQUEST OVERSIGHT OF A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF NASSAU ACTING ON BEHALF OF NASSAU COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND LIOTTA BROS. RECYCLING. A-48-14 A-49-14 PR R RESOLUTION NO. -2014 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF NASSAU COUNTY OFFICE OF PURCHASING TO AWARD AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF NASSAU ACTING ON BEHALF OF NASSAU COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AND COGSDALE CORPORATION. A-49-14 A-60-14 PR R RESOLUTION NO. -2014 A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE DIRECTOR OF NASSAU COUNTY OFFICE OF PURCHASING TO AWARD AND EXECUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE COUNTY OF NASSAU ACTING ON BEHALF OF NASSAU COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT ASSET FORFEITURE & INTELLIGENCE DIVISION AND ALLSTATE LEASING. A-60-14
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Calling
3 the Rules Committee to order. Mr. Muller,
4 will you call the roll for the Rules
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6 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
7 Solages?
8 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: Here.
9 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Jacobs?
10 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: Here.
11 CLERK MULLER: Ranking Member
12 Abrahams is here. Legislator Kopel?
13 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Here.
14 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Dunne?
15 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: Here.
16 CLERK MULLER: Vice Chairman
17 Nicolello?
18 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: Here.
19 CLERK MULLER: Chairwoman
20 Gonsalves?
21 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Present.
22 CLERK MULLER: We have all seven
23 members.
24 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: We have
25 three contracts on the agenda. I will begin
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2 with Contract A - 48, a resolution authorizing
3 the director of Nassau County Office of
4 Purchasing to request oversight of a
5 contract between the County of Nassau acting
6 on behalf of the Nassau County Department of
7 Public Works and Liotta Brothers Recycling.
8 A motion, please.
9 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
10 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Second.
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
12 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
13 Kopel. Who do we have to speak here?
14 MR. MAY: We have Mr. Brian
15 Schneider from DPW if there are any
16 questions. Are there questions?
17 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Minority
18 Leader Abrahams.
19 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Hi Brian.
20 If you could, can you just start off by
21 explaining the type of contract and also
22 just give us an idea of how long this
23 particular vendor has been with the county?
24 MR. SCHNEIDER: Sure. This is a
25 blanket purchase order for the transport and
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2 disposal of emergency but non- storm related
3 aggregate and vegetative debris. When I say
4 aggregate, it could be concrete, recycled
5 concrete, asphalt, dirt, anything that' s
6 generated on a county project that
7 previously was disposed of utilizing county
8 forces to transport this material to a
9 vendor, Jamaica Ash.
10 That contract is ridiculously
11 expensive, to be blunt, where we would pay
12 upwards of $ 43 a cubic yard to have our
13 county crews transport this material to
14 Jamaica Ash recycling site which takes a
15 tremendous amount of effort and time and
16 also funds to transport this material.
17 This blanket purchase order gives
18 the county the flexibility to have Liotta
19 Brothers, from Island Park, to actually come
20 and pick up this material, transport it to
21 their facility for their recycling a t less
22 than half the cost.
23 So this, again, will give the
24 department tremendous flexibility in not
25 only cutting the cost of disposing this
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2 material, but also freeing up the use of our
3 own people and our own trucks. We no longer
4 have to transport this material to their
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6 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: We have
7 been contracting with this company for some
8 time now?
9 MR. SCHNEIDER: Yes. Liotta
10 Brothers has had blanket purchase orders
11 throughout, since my time, I would say over
12 the last ten years. We are using Liotta
13 Brothers specifically for a disposal of - -
14 and this came up at the Full Leg session, at
15 the waterway, debris material is being
16 transported to the Liotta Facility in Island
17 Park for disposal of all material that' s
18 being collected on the South Shore
19 waterways.
20 So, Liotta Brothers is a firm
21 that we have dealt with in the past and we
22 are quite comfortable with, obviously with
23 their rates and their service.
24 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Brian,
25 something that' s a little uncomfortable in
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2 nature, and I ' m not sure if you' re familiar
3 with it, but back in 2011, the district
4 attorney actually brought up charges on
5 Mr. Liotta. In her caption it talks about
6 Oceanside man sold mulch to homeowners after
7 mixing it with hazardous waste. Liotta
8 Brothers Recycling Corp sold garden mulch
9 loaded with chemicals, plastic, food tiles,
10 and sheet metal.
11 I ' m not too sure where this case
12 ended. I don' t know if it' s been resolved.
13 This is all we were able to find on the
14 district attorney' s website when we saw this
15 on the calendar today. But, I don' t know if
16 you are aware of this. I would guess that
17 probably this is something that goes up more
18 up the ladder, but were you aware of this?
19 MR. SCHNEIDER: No. I ' m not
20 aware of that specific item. I know that
21 during the blanket purchase order that we
22 put together for the waterway debris
23 operation, we, and myself specifically, I ' m
24 the project manager for the waterway debris
25 program, I needed to make sure that that
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2 facility was operating under an existing New
3 York State DEC permit. And they were. So,
4 I ' m not sure if that' s something. I ' m not
5 aware of that incident in 2011, but I know
6 that currently they are operating as a
7 licensed and registered New York State DEC
8 solid waste facility.
9 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: The only
10 thing that it says about the DEC is that the
11 DEC referred to the DA' s environmental crime
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13 MR. SCHNEIDER: Again,
14 legislator, I ' m not familiar with that. I
15 can certainly look into it further, but I
16 know that they are currently licensed and
17 registered.
18 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: I know that
19 other legislators have questions, but I
20 would love to see what Brian comes back with
21 and respectfully request that we table this
22 matter.
23 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: I would like
24 to make a motion to table this matter
25 because we don' t know what is the
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2 disposition in the case. I think it would
3 be of concern for the county to be involved
4 in giving a contract to a business with
5 these allegations over their head.
6 I ' m concerned about this,
7 especially with that allegation. If this is
8 the first time the administration h as heard
9 of this, make a motion to table, please.
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Brian, you
11 think you can get the information for us by
12 next week?
13 MR. SCHNEIDER: Sure.
14 Absolutely.
15 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I ' m going
16 to table it, but I want to, before I do
17 that, because there is no discussion during
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19 MR. SCHNEIDER: By all means. We
20 would have the same concerns, so we will
21 make sure before next week we' ll have the
22 answers to that.
23 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: We would
24 appreciate that. Motion to table.
25 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: So moved.
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2 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: Second.
3 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion by
4 Legislator Nicolello, seconded by Legislator
5 Solages. All those in favor of tabling Item
6 A 48 signify by saying aye.
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8 Any opposed?
9 ( No verbal response. )
10 The item is tabled.
11 The next item is Item A - 49, a
12 resolution authorizing the director of
13 Nassau County Office of Purchasing to award
14 and execute a contract between the county of
15 Nassau acting on behalf of Nassau County
16 Department of Information Technology and
17 Cogsdale Corporation.
18 A motion, please.
19 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
20 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: Second.
21 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
22 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
23 Nicolello. Who is here to speak on this?
24 MR. MAY: We have Commissioner Ed
25 Eisenstein from the Information Technology
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2 Department.
3 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Just give
4 us an overview and then if there are any
5 questions.
6 COMMISSIONER EISENSTEIN: Thank
7 you. This is the Cogsdale Corporation, the
8 vendor for our main frame financial system
9 like famous, and the vendor has been in play
10 for many years.
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any
12 questions of this contract?
13 ( No verbal response. )
14 Is there any public comment?
15 ( No verbal response. )
16 There being none, all those in
17 favor of A - 49 signify by saying aye.
18 ( Aye. )
19 Any opposed?
20 ( No verbal response. )
21 The item passes unanimously.
22 The final item is A - 60, a
23 resolution authorizing the director of
24 Nassau County Office of Purchasing to award
25 and execute a contract between the County of
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2 Nassau acting on behalf of the Nassau County
3 Police Department Asset Forfeiture and
4 Intelligence Division and Allstate Leasing.
5 Motion, please.
6 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
7 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: Second.
8 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
9 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
10 Nicolello. Sergeant.
11 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: This item
12 is to award and authorize a blanket purchase
13 order for a three year lease of eight
14 vehicles to the Nassau County Department of
15 Asset Forfeiture and Intelligence Division.
16 The award was given to Allstate Leasing in
17 the amount of $ 148, 752 for the entire
18 blanket order and 100 percent of these, the
19 expenses from this blanket order, will be
20 reimbursed by the IRS because of our
21 participation with the IRS Task Force.
22 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any
23 questions of the sergeant? Minority Leader.
24 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: How are
25 you, sergeant?
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2 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: Good. How
3 are you?
4 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Just a
5 quick question. Let me make sure I
6 understand the bidding process. There were
7 four bidders on this particular item?
8 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: 25 vendors
9 were notified and four vendors actually bid.
10 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: There was
11 one that was located in Nassau?
12 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: Yes.
13 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: And the
14 lowest bidder was Allstate Leasing?
15 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: Yes.
16 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: And we
17 deviated from that?
18 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: We picked
19 Allstate.
20 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: I
21 apologize. I must have misread it. Then
22 I ' m fine with it.
23 The only question I do have is in
24 regards to, we are using asset forfeiture
25 money for this, correct?
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2 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: This is 100
3 percent reimbursable from the IRS. We are
4 going to pay it initially and then will be
5 reimbursable.
6 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: So, we are
7 paying initially out of asset forfeiture?
8 SERGEANT STEPHANOFF: Yes. I
9 don' t believe asset forfeiture. I believe
10 it will come out of operating. Then we
11 s ubmit a voucher and get reimbursed.
12 We' ve been - - because it' s not
13 asset forfeiture funds that' s going to be
14 ultimately paying for it. It will be IRS
15 funds. But we' ve been doing this same lease
16 for about ten years now, and its always been
17 100 percent reimbursed.
18 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Okay.
19 Thank you.
20 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any public
21 comment?
22 ( No verbal response. )
23 There being none, all those in
24 favor of Item A - 60 signify by saying aye.
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3 ( No verbal response. )
4 The item passes unanimously.
5 A motion to adjourn, please.
6 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
7 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Second.
8 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
9 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
10 Kopel. All those in favor of adjourning
11 signify by saying aye.
12 ( Aye. )
13 Any opposed?
14 ( No verbal response. )
15 We are adjourned.
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3 NORMA GONSALVES, Presiding Officer 4 RICHARD NICOLELLO, 5 Deputy Presiding Officer
6 HOWARD KOPEL, Alternate Deputy Presiding Officer 7 MICHAEL VENDITTO 8 DENISE FORD 9 LAURA CURRAN 10 FRANCIS X . BECKER 11 VINCENT MUSCARELLA 12 ELLEN BIRNBAUM 13 LAURA SCHAEFER 14 DONALD MACKENZIE 15 KEVAN ABRAHAMS, 16 Minority Leader
17 ROSE MARIE WALKER
18 DENNIS DUNNE
19 JUDITH JACOBS
20 DAVID DENENBERG
21 DELIA DERIGGI- WHITTON
22 CARRIE SOLAGES
23 SIELA BYNOE
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3 JIM CARVER, President, PBA...... 7
4 THOMAS KRUMPTER, Commissioner, Nassau County Police Department...... 9 5 CHRISTOPHER ARI, AMT coordinator 6 Emergency Ambulance Bureau...... 12
7 MARIO SUSKO, public comment...... 21
8 BARBARA SALVA, public comment...... 23
9 JOANNE BORDEN, public comment...... 28
10 JOYCE STOWE, public comment...... 32
11 OLIVIA BROWN, public comment...... 34
12 AARON WATKINS LOPEZ, public comment...... 42
13 PATTI AMBROSIA, public comment...... 45
14 GREGORY MAY, Director County Executive' s Office...... 57 15 RICHARD BRUMMEL, public comment...... 53 16 ROBERT WALKER, 17 Chief Deputy County Executive...... 59
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Would my
3 fellow legislators please take their seats?
4 I would like to ask Legislator
5 Dunne to lead us in the pledge.
6 ( Whereupon, the Pledge of
7 Allegiance was recited. )
8 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Good
9 afternoon. We have a very very prestigious
10 crowd in here today. We were going to be
11 reinstituting a program that we' ve had for a
12 number of years here at the legislature.
13 I believe Presiding Officer
14 Jacobs remembers those days when we had the
15 Top Cop Program. It was pursued for a
16 number of years. Somehow we seem to have
17 fallen by the wayside. However, our
18 thoughts and our hearts are always with the
19 members of the police department and the
20 EMTs .
21 I , for one, and I think I have
22 most, in fact, all of my colleagues on board
23 with this. We think highly of our police
24 department primarily because, in many
25 instances, they are asked - - the officers
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2 and the EMTs are asked to do things that
3 require over and above ability. And they
4 have shown a commitment and a dedication to
5 the work that they do.
6 Today we are going to be honoring
7 members of the police department and EMTs
8 who have been instrumental, and you read it
9 every day in the paper and hear it all the
10 time on the TV, the Narcan Saves.
11 Two years ago, I believe the year
12 was 2012, there were a number of overdoses
13 and one, in particular, touched my heart
14 primarily because I knew the young man and I
15 certainly know his family.
16 At that particular time I made a
17 commitment and I have been joined by the
18 County Executive as well that we are going
19 to do everything we can to find something
20 that will prevent those fatal overdoses.
21 Thanks to the County Executive
22 and the Deputy County Executive at that
23 time, Dr. Victor Politi, who was the Deputy
24 County Executive in charge of Public Safety,
25 I said to him, I know there' s something out
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2 there. I have done my homework. We have to
3 make sure that we do ours.
4 And, what he did, he introduced
5 me, and Edin Raiken is out there in front,
6 we went and we spoke to the rescue EMS and
7 they said that they would explore it. Thank
8 God they explored it.
9 Now, we not only educate the
10 police officers in every precinct on the use
11 of Narcan, but we are now educating the
12 public. Every one of the legislators have
13 had an opportunity and will continue to have
14 an opportunity to hold seminars within their
15 communities so that the residents themselves
16 will be trained in the use of Narcan.
17 This is a good thing. It' s
18 something that we are all concerned about
19 and didn' t have to read much more than what
20 we read over the weekend regarding the
21 internet sale of drugs with the encrypted
22 sites. We have really and truly a very
23 serious situation, not only in Nassau County
24 but throughout the nation. So, it' s
25 extremely fitting that we honor today those
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2 officers and AMTs who have rescued, kept
3 other people from fatally overdosing from
4 drugs.
5 So, without any further ado, I am
6 going to call on the president of the PBA
7 Jim Carver to say a few words.
8 PRESIDENT CARVER: First off, I
9 want to thank you for bringing back this
10 very important program of honoring the top
11 cops each month, Norma. Thank you very
12 much.
13 Having said that, you look over
14 the last few years, I think what you' ve seen
15 across the country is more of a willingness
16 to report stories on alleged bad behavior of
17 those within the public safety arena,
18 instead of highlighting the great work that
19 is done each and every single day.
20 Again, when you look over at the
21 right, the men and women sitting here are
22 just a small example of the work that' s done
23 each and every single day throughout Nassau
24 County.
25 I know we are honoring three
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2 separate instances here, but there are 40
3 times that police officers have utilized
4 Narcan and saved a life. There has been
5 like 140 other times that AMTs have used
6 this to save lives.
7 So, this is working this program.
8 It started off back in May and June that
9 they were trained in this. We have had
10 police officers, the day after they were
11 trained, were able to utilize Narcan and
12 save a life. Again, with the heroin
13 epidemic we have here on Long Island, it
14 doesn' t discriminate what neighborhood you
15 live in. Rich, poor, or in between, it' s
16 affecting all of our lives. It' s worth
17 saving someone' s life and having give them a
18 second chance. This is exactly what this
19 has done.
20 Police officers are kindhearted
21 people who want to help. Before this Narcan
22 was available, we would respond to a call
23 and you were almost helpless to try to help
24 that individual save the life. With this
25 miracle spray here, our police officers are
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2 able sit there and do that.
3 I ' m very proud of the work they
4 do each and every day, and I know this is
5 going to be a regular thing. When you hear
6 the stories each and every month of what the
7 police officers do, it' s going to make you
8 feel the same pride that I have and I know
9 the commissioner has also.
10 I want to thank him too because
11 sometimes we barrel back but it' s all for
12 the right reasons, to make sure our police
13 officers are equipped with what they need to
14 do the job each and every day.
15 With that, I would like to bring
16 the police commissioner up a little bit to
17 talk about this. Thank you very much.
18 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you,
19 Jim.
20 COMMISSIONER KRUMPTER:
21 Legislator Gonsalves, I would like to start
22 by thanking you and the legislators for
23 recognizing the cops. Each and every day,
24 police officers touch the residents of this
25 county in a very positive way. Today we
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2 have some true heroes that are going to be
3 acknowledged.
4 The good thing about this is we
5 implemented this program earlier this year
6 where w e trained every single police officer
7 in the use of Narcan and it' s been so
8 successful that we expand on it every single
9 recruit that goes through recruit training
10 going forward will be trained on Narcan.
11 Every single supervisor, every single
12 detective will also be trained by the end of
13 the year on Narcan.
14 Additionally, we are going to
15 offer the training to the auxiliary police
16 officers a nd get that done by the end of the
17 year.
18 So, as Jimmy Carver pointed out,
19 without a doubt, this is truly a great
20 program. It goes along with a holistic
21 approach to fighting the Heroin epidemic.
22 And it is an epidemic.
23 Keep in mind, this year, year to
24 day, we have had 40 police officers since
25 May save the lives of people. On top of
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2 that, there is another 140 plus. So, right
3 now, just under 190 people have been saved
4 year to date by Narcan. Keep in mind,
5 unfortunately, we' re going to lose 130 to
6 140 people to fatal overdoses from heroin
7 and opiates. So, when you start to look at
8 those numbers, we have a real problem, a
9 real challenge.
10 We have implemented a very strong
11 program and we expand on it, as I testified
12 at the legislature earlier this month, we
13 are improving our investigative abilities.
14 Senator Martins and Senator Kemp Hannon have
15 made available $ 200, 000 that will be used
16 for investigations into the events
17 surrounding overdoses targeting those
18 dealers. So, it is an uphill battle but
19 today we are honoring those police officers
20 that really touched people' s lives in a very
21 positive way, so, for that, thank you very
22 much.
23 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you
24 Acting Commissioner Krumpter.
25 Now, at this time I have the
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2 pleasure of introducing AMT coordinator
3 Christopher Ari, and Police Officer Steve
4 Krokowski, and he will present a short
5 demonstration regarding the use of Narcan;
6 am I correct?
7 MR. ARI: Good afternoon. I ' m
8 AMT coordinator, Christopher Ari, from the
9 Emergency Ambulance Bureau, and Officer
10 Krokowski from the police academy. Officer
11 Krokowski is going to give a brief
12 demonstration and a review of the opiate
13 overdose prevention kits that have been
14 issued to all of our police officers.
15 As you know, the introduction of
16 the Narcan nasal atomizer kits, the nasal
17 atomizer is something that really is the
18 breakthrough in this situation. It allows
19 us to administer a fine mist into the nasal
20 cavities. The nasal cavities have a very
21 rich blood flow and this is an excellent
22 method of administering certain medications
23 including Narcan. It really takes away the
24 risk and training associated with having to
25 deal with giving an injection and having a
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2 sharp needle in a critical situation.
3 Basically, if we come across a
4 person in distress who is showing signs and
5 symptoms of an opiate overdose which would
6 be lethargy, respiratory depression, shallow
7 or perhaps absent respiratory effort,
8 pinpoint pupils. They also may have signs,
9 some paraphernalia of drug use, or they may
10 be told by bystanders that there' s a history
11 of drug use. The officer will then retrieve
12 his opiate response kit. He will attach the
13 nasal atomizer to the syringe. The syringe
14 does not have a needle. Then he will screw
15 in the barrel, it' s two milligrams of
16 Narcan. And at this point we will
17 administer half the dose in one nostril by
18 spraying it with the atomizer in the
19 nostril. And, after doing that, he would
20 administer the second half of the kit, which
21 would be another one milligram dose. So
22 that' s a total of two milligrams, one
23 milligram in each nostril. And he would
24 update the responding ambulance and then
25 treat the patient accordingly.
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2 There are pretty much no
3 contraindications to Narcan. The only
4 contraindication really being if the person
5 has no pulse at which point we would begin
6 CPR, or if there is a severe nosebleed.
7 Thanks to the addition of this to
8 our arsenal, it really gets the treatment to
9 the patient and it' s been proven to show a
10 positive outcome in public safety. Thank
11 you very much.
12 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you,
13 Christopher.
14 Today we recognize several people
15 from two precincts, the Third and the
16 Fourth. I ' m going to begin with the Third
17 and I have Police Officer Michael Grory,
18 Police Officer James Marsh, and AMT Dan
19 O ' Keefe.
20 On May 28, 2014, the officers
21 administered Narcan through the aided nasal
22 passage and were able to now detect a pulse.
23 Upon ambulance arrival, the aided was given
24 an additional dose of Narcan intravenously
25 by AMT O ' Keefe. The aided was transported
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2 to the hospital and regained consciousness.
3 On June 14, 2014, Officers Mark
4 Vitali and Janice Whitney were at the scene
5 of an aided case and officer, upon arrival
6 at the scene, the aided person was found to
7 be in respiratory arrest from an apparent
8 overdose. Officer Whitney secured a n airway
9 while Officer Vitali administered Narcan to
10 the aided. The aided person' s breathing
11 improved and regained consciousness. The
12 aided was transported to the hospital for
13 further medical care.
14 On June 20, 2014, we had Officer
15 Sandra Richard and AMT Robert Roper at the
16 scene of an apparent overdose. The aided
17 was not breathing and had no pulse. Officer
18 Richard began CPR and administered Narcan to
19 the aided. AMT Roper arrived at the scene
20 and gave an additional dose of Narcan to the
21 aided who began breathing and now having a
22 pulse. Again, the aided was transported to
23 the hospital.
24 Now, will all those three groups
25 from the Third Precinct please stand?
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2 ( Applause. )
3 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Now, on
4 July 15, 2014, Police Officer Gregory Certa
5 from the Fourth Precinct was dispatched to a
6 person suffering an overdose and, upon
7 arrival, the aided was found lying in bed
8 snoring with the eyes open and was
9 unresponsive.
10 Officer Certa administered Narcan
11 into the aided' s nasal cavity with positive
12 results. The aided' s state improved and was
13 transported to the hospital.
14 Police officers Kevin Aitis,
15 Police Officer Shawn Walker, Police Officer
16 Adrian Zarga on August 7 , 2014 was called
17 and found an individual unresponsive with
18 shallow breathing. The aided appeared to be
19 suffering from possible heroin overdose and
20 Narcan was administered to the aided person
21 who became conscious and alert and was
22 transferred to the area hospital.
23 And, on June 8 , 2014, Police
24 Officer Patrick O ' Connor and AMT John
25 Hogenberger responded to a radio assignment
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2 for an unresponsive drug overdose victim.
3 Narcan was administered to the aided who was
4 unconscious and appeared lifeless. Upon the
5 arrival of the AMT Hogenberger, more Narcan
6 was administered to the aided and the aided
7 was revived and transported to a local
8 hospital.
9 These individuals were from the
10 Fourth Precinct. Would you please stand and
11 be recognized?
12 ( Applause. )
13 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: We have
14 citations for each of you and I ' m going to
15 be I guess assisted by our P . R . person,
16 wherever she is, and I ' m going to ask, and
17 this is going to be very difficult, we can
18 do one group picture or we can do two group
19 pictures, one with the Third and one with
20 the Fourth. You' re shaking your head. What
21 would you like us to do?
22 PRESIDENT CARVER: Probably do
23 separate pictures.
24 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Christina,
25 you have to get them out.
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2 First of all, I would like to
3 recognize Chief Skrynecki is here, and I
4 believe Chief Kirby is here as well, am I
5 right? And thank you for being here.
6 I ' m going to ask those from the
7 Third Precinct to please I guess join
8 Minority Leader Kevan Abrahams and myself
9 down by the podium so that we can take a
10 picture. And then, once we do the Third, we
11 will proceed with the Fourth, and Acting
12 Commissioner Krumpter and PBA President Jim
13 Carver, and, of course, the two chiefs,
14 please join us. Ladies and gents, again,
15 congratulations.
16 Will my colleagues please take
17 their seats? Again, I think that the
18 recognition was well deserved and we can
19 look forward to doing it again each month.
20 So, I say thank you for the work that they
21 do and will continue to do.
22 Without any further ado, I think
23 we need to have a roll call and hopefully
24 every one is in his or her seat.
25 Mr. Muller, please.
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2 CLERK MULLER: Deputy Presiding
3 Officer Nicolello?
4 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: Here.
5 CLERK MULLER: Alternate Deputy
6 Presiding Officer Kopel?
7 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Here.
8 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Bynoe?
9 LEGISLATOR BYNOE: Here.
10 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
11 Solages?
12 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: Here.
13 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Ford?
14 LEGISLATOR FORD: Here.
15 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Curran?
16 LEGISLATOR CURRAN: Here.
17 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Becker?
18 LEGISLATOR BECKER: Here.
19 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
20 Muscarella?
21 LEGISLATOR MUSCARELLA: Here.
22 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
23 Birnbaum?
24 LEGISLATOR BIRNBAUM: Here.
25 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
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2 DeRiggi- Whitton?
3 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON:
4 Here.
5 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
6 Venditto?
7 LEGISLATOR VENDITTO: Here.
8 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
9 Schaefer?
10 LEGISLATOR SCHAEFER: Here.
11 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Dunne?
12 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: Here.
13 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Jacobs?
14 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: Here.
15 CLERK MULLER: Legislator Walker?
16 LEGISLATOR WALKER: Here.
17 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
18 MacKenzie?
19 LEGISLATOR MACKENZIE: Here.
20 CLERK MULLER: Legislator
21 Denenberg?
22 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Here.
23 CLERK MULLER: Minority Leader
24 Abrahams?
25 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Here.
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2 CLERK MULLER: Presiding Officer
3 Gonsalves?
4 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Present.
5 CLERK MULLER: We have a full
6 quorum.
7 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you,
8 Mr. Muller. As is customary, we have a half
9 hour of public comment and I have a few
10 slips in front of me. I will begin with
11 Mario Susko.
12 MR. SUSKO: Good afternoon. I ' m
13 actually representing myself, more or less,
14 and I just want to say a few words on the
15 issue that we all face and that is the
16 Nassau County poet laureate. I ' m the so
17 called undocumented poet laureate.
18 We know that right now we are the
19 laughing stock of both Queens and Suffolk
20 County because the poet laureate does exist
21 but the county does not recognize it, either
22 officially or unofficially.
23 I would like to ask you to
24 consider this possibility. The Poetry
25 S ociety is not going to go away. My
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2 suggestion is that the Poetry Society does
3 the initial s creening of the next poet
4 laureate, and I ' m now talking about myself,
5 and then the legislature appoints two
6 representatives, and you know what I mean by
7 two representatives, that will do the final
8 screening and select the poet laureate.
9 This will bring the county back into the
10 fold.
11 If not, I kindly ask the county
12 to disavow itself of poet laureate, remove
13 it from the books, and, therefore, let us
14 live free. Thank you very much. If you
15 want some information about me, I will leave
16 this.
17 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Mr. Susko,
18 Legislator Jacobs would like to address you.
19 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: Mr. Susko, I
20 hear you and I would love us to reinstate - -
21 actually, it never really happened, if you
22 recall. There was some confusion at the
23 time of the initial bringing forth of the
24 poet laureate. Certain controversies,
25 nothing to do with you, nothing to do with
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2 poets in general. I treasure the poetry I
3 receive from yourself and others who share
4 it with me.
5 So, I support you in this and I
6 really would love to join with the presiding
7 officer in making sure that this is
8 something that is so lovely to have and to
9 have something to reflect on at times when
10 we can use it.
11 MR. SUSKO: Thank you. We can
12 all make it work together because the poet
13 laureate represents the county and not
14 himself. Thank you.
15 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Barbara
16 Salva.
17 MS. SALVA: Good afternoon,
18 ladies and gentlemen. By now you all know
19 my name, but, in case you forgot, it' s
20 Barbara Salva. I ' m the deputy executive
21 director of the Long Island Transgender
22 Advocacy Coalition, LITAC.
23 I want to thank you all for
24 giving me the chance to speak again, because
25 I believe it causes great point to listen to
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2 us saying the same thing over and over
3 again. Obviously it is a fine example of
4 the party of no. Even after the Power Point
5 presentation that was brought to you the
6 last open session on September 22nd.
7 I was hoping by now that there
8 would be a conversation in your body to
9 reconsider the amendment to include
10 transgender people in the law you already
11 have on the books in Nassau County.
12 That law is a good law. However,
13 it doesn' t include trans people. There are
14 many definitions in the law but none for
15 trans people or what gender means and that' s
16 the problem. Because it opens the doors for
17 all sorts of interpretations. There should
18 not be any chance of different
19 interpretations of people when it comes to
20 equality and justice. Any citizen should
21 have equal rights under the law. There
22 never seems to be interpretations when it
23 comes to paying your taxes and I wonder why.
24 It' s one thing to deny admittance
25 to a restaurant and that should be illegal.
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2 But certainly another, if one is denied
3 medical treatment by EMS if a trans person
4 has an accident or a heart attack, and EMS
5 arrives on the scene refusing to administer
6 aid just because of who we are.
7 Similar events have happened
8 right here at Winthrop. That is not the
9 time to argue if you have the right to
10 public accommodations.
11 Ladies and gentlemen, this is no
12 joke. In some cases it' s a matter of life
13 and death. And this all can be avoided by
14 strengthening the law already on the books
15 by adding the amendment to clarify the term
16 gender. As well as my title in LITAC, I ' m
17 also on the committee for TDR, Transgender
18 Day of Remembrance. It' s an event held
19 every year in November to honor those
20 transgender persons who lost their lives
21 just because of who they are. They lost
22 their lives through hatred and bigotry. The
23 one line description we mention about their
24 death are horrible. Some are dismembered
25 and mutilated. There are hundreds like
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2 this. I invite you all to attend this event
3 on November 16th at 7 o ' clock at the First
4 Presbyterian Church in Port Jefferson.
5 Like I said, this is no joke.
6 Anyone of us could be a victim including me.
7 Please, please, do the right thing and add
8 the amendment to the law to ensure everyone
9 has equal rights in Nassau County. I thank
10 you
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Joanne
12 Borden. First Legislator Jacobs.
13 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: Barbara, I
14 want to hear your answer to this. Are you
15 trying to have this passed in the state?
16 MS. SALVA: Oh, yes. We have
17 been up to the state - - the State Assembly
18 has passed it seven times. LITAC has been
19 up there for the past six years trying to
20 get the law passed through the state. We
21 thought we had a half a chance when Governor
22 Cuomo was elected the first time.
23 Unfortunately, we never made it to the
24 table. The senate seems to be the problem.
25 We hope that this year, in this
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2 coming election, we might have a chance to
3 get something done by the state, but there' s
4 obviously no guarantees there.
5 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: I would
6 strongly suggest it because you used the
7 word it' s a joke, but it' s a sad joke in
8 Nassau County because we thought we did
9 things so great years ago with our Civil
10 Rights Law and we did. We did. We included
11 people that were never included in the
12 original meaning of the Human Rights Law in
13 Nassau County, but this is a sick joke that
14 everybody else around us has done it except
15 we can' t do this. It doesn' t take bravery
16 to do it. It just takes compassion and
17 understanding that we obviously left
18 something out but we never meant to.
19 So, obviously it' s not moving
20 here, you can see that. Hopefully, it will.
21 I don' t hold out any hope. But I can tell
22 you this much, go to the state and see what
23 you can do. They should know what an
24 embarrassment we are downstate. Seriously.
25 MS. SALVA: I tend to agree and I
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2 thank you for your amendment that you showed
3 us. I do think that the law as it stands
4 now in Nassau is a good law, it just doesn' t
5 include us.
6 Suffolk County had a similar law
7 and they just reinforced it. They made it
8 better for all of us.
9 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: That' s what
10 makes this so ridiculous for us. They made
11 it better and they just did it by amendment.
12 It was no big deal. It didn' t have to
13 become this major fight that' s going on
14 demanding human rights and not getting them.
15 I just don' t get this. I can get a lot of
16 things. I can disagree about many issues
17 that I may have one viewpoint, others may
18 have others, that' s understandable. But, in
19 this particular issue, I just don' t get it.
20 MS. SALVA: I agree. And I must
21 say also that Suffolk County, it was
22 unanimous. So, again, I thank you.
23 MS. BORDEN: May I ask something
24 to the same thing?
25 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Go ahead.
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2 MS. BORDEN: The state laws and
3 federal laws are very good. They tell
4 people what' s wrong and what' s right, and
5 someone far away in a distant city telling
6 you right from wrong and of course giving
7 you legal recourse, which, in my mind, is
8 secondary. A local law, such as that in
9 Nassau County, has much greater meaning
10 besides the enforcement and saying what' s
11 right and wrong legally.
12 This is people in your
13 neighborhood, your neighbors, you pass them
14 in the streets in the supermarket. These
15 are people you know telling you what is
16 right and wrong. It is far more powerful
17 than any state or federal law. Local laws
18 are the most important in changing people' s
19 prejudices.
20 Good afternoon, what could be
21 simpler regarding transgender rights? The
22 majority counsel believes we are protected
23 in the law, the minority counsel believes we
24 are not. The county attorney said, " the
25 code does not explicitly protect individuals
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2 based on their status as transgender or
3 based on their overt gender expression. "
4 " The existence of a dispute regarding the
5 issue is indisputable. " After the County
6 Attorney was asked to reconsider his
7 conflicting opinion with the Republican
8 counsel, he said the law can be interpreted
9 to give us protection.
10 We all know interpretation means
11 almost anything. I can interpret national
12 origin in the law protects Scottish Terrier
13 and German Shepherd dogs, ethnicity' s
14 protection reinforces that interpretation.
15 No one believes the law protects dogs and no
16 one believes the word gender in the law
17 pointed to by majority counsel protects more
18 than women and men. Any person on the
19 street or any dictionary verifies that.
20 You are totally out of line
21 claiming your position is legitimate and
22 ours is not. Our inclusion in the law is
23 clearly in dispute and needs clarification.
24 Needs the Clarification Law.
25 Furthermore, it is the meaning,
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2 and an insult to me personally, the attorney
3 who drafted the amendment the legislators
4 who support it, those that track transgender
5 case law and unanimously opinion we are not
6 covered, and especially the thousands of
7 transgender people in Nassau who live in
8 fear of harm under the present law could be
9 told the amendment is unnecessary.
10 CLERK MULLER: Your three minutes
11 have expired.
12 MS. BORDEN: Couldn' t be. The
13 amendment is unnecessary and we are like
14 spoiled children who want their own way,
15 their own words. Take heed, the words in
16 the amendment were found vital in many
17 jurisdictions that had to add them to their
18 original law because they wanted to protect
19 gender people, wanted to protect them.
20 Denigrating us as spoiled children to
21 justify your position indicates yours is a
22 weak, indefensible excuse you hide behind to
23 deny us equal equality. The amendment turns
24 a feeble maybe into an unmistakable
25 equality.
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2 It' s time to stop the nonsense,
3 stop the excuses and pretense, either say
4 you don' t want to give transgender people
5 equal rights or allow the amendment' s vital
6 important and key words necessary to include
7 gender variant people in the law. Thank
8 you.
9 The County Attorney' s letter to
10 me dated December 7 th, 2010, that I quoted
11 from and mailed to the legislators two times
12 in the past, it' s reprinted on the reverse
13 side of this speech, please include it,
14 Mr. Clerk, in the record as well as the
15 written speech.
16 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I believe
17 the next speaker is Joyce Stowe.
18 MS. STOWE: Good evening. I ' m
19 Joyce Stowe from Tudor Manor Civic area in
20 Elmont. I ' m here today speaking on behalf
21 of myself and the residents in the Tudor
22 Manor Civic area, particularly Dutch
23 Broadway Elementary School.
24 Residents are crying out on the
25 number of tickets being issued for them not
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2 to be based on the number of accidents at
3 this site, which is Dutch Broadway School.
4 Solely they said based on the budget
5 shortfalls, that Nassau County is
6 experiencing, as it pertains to salaries,
7 buyouts, and tax rebates. Residents are
8 very mad, concerned, and fed up about the
9 cost which is $ 80 per clip. Why so much?
10 Some folks are petrified driving
11 at 20 miles per hour. Cars pushing off from
12 the lights go up to 30, and by the time you
13 have to go down to 20, there' s a ticket.
14 Streets alongside Dutch Broadway,
15 and that includes the area that I live, are
16 bearing the brunt of traffic running from
17 the lights on Dutch Broadway.
18 I think the county should try to
19 evaluate and/ or review the law again and see
20 if some remedy can be meted out to alleviate
21 the complete slow down on these main
22 arterial roads. I don' t know if that can
23 happen.
24 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you
25 very much, Joyce. The next speaker is
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2 Olivia Brown.
3 MS. BROWN: I ' m here speaking on
4 the same issue. I ' m almost 67 years old.
5 I ' ve never had a speeding ticket. I ' m very
6 careful when I drive. If there are kids
7 anywhere around me, I slow to a crawling
8 pace. I got two tickets, one at 31 miles
9 per hour, the other one at 36 in the
10 afternoon and there was no child present.
11 Okay. I do understand you want
12 to cut speeds. Put proper warning signs
13 that this is a 20 miles- per- hour zone.
14 There is none there. I ' ve noticed here on
15 Long Island, people are getting - - going 15
16 miles- per- hour, they have to change that,
17 signs have to be taken or tickets have to be
18 reimbursed because the signs weren' t there
19 warning people.
20 Two, the tickets are for $ 80
21 each. New York City, it' s $ 50 I ' m told. We
22 pay more in taxes. I never had a child go
23 to school district, and I paid a heck of a
24 lot school taxes. Never a problem. That
25 was my wishes when I came here.
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2 Why are we paying $ 80 while New
3 York City is paying $ 50? I think it should
4 be the other way around. Don' t you?
5 I notice where there was
6 legislation passed for $ 50 and in red ink on
7 the side I saw where future legislation was
8 passed for $ 30 more. Don' t say any reason
9 for that for the driver' s responsibility.
10 I ' ve seen on your website where
11 people can' t go get groceries because
12 they' re paying these tickets. One woman who
13 has a business right on Dutch Broadway where
14 she turned the corner she got 21 tickets.
15 This is ridiculous.
16 I ' ve also been told by a reliable
17 source that this money is being used for
18 back pay. Is this true? Could you tell me
19 what this money - -
20 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: It goes
21 into the general fund. Not for back pay.
22 MS. BROWN: Is this being used
23 to fix roads here on Long Island?
24 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: It could
25 be a number of things.
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2 MS. BROWN: Obviously I ' ve only
3 seen millions of dollars being - - we are
4 paying a high tax rate, millions of dollars
5 being accumulated. Nobody is told what this
6 money is being used for. We' re told that
7 this company is from out of state. What
8 percentage of that money is going to them if
9 this is true and what percentage is being
10 back into the neighborhood?
11 Can you put some kind of a line
12 or flashing lights or something so people
13 will know that there are cameras in the
14 neighborhood? Can you?
15 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: It' s under
16 consideration, Olivia.
17 MS. BROWN: So, while it' s under
18 consideration, can our tickets be reduced
19 from $ 80?
20 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: No.
21 That' s the law. Legislator Jacobs.
22 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: But, from the
23 day those signs went up, which are extremely
24 hard to see for a normal driver, and let me
25 just finish. Before they ever had the
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2 cameras in working condition, I reached out
3 to the administration and said those are not
4 the signs to put up because nobody can see
5 them. That' s where that gotcha phrase came
6 from because, if you can' t see it, then
7 obviously - - look, if there was proper
8 signage there and flashing lights, and you
9 decide you' re still going to speed through a
10 school zone, that' s unacceptable.
11 MS. BROWN: Right. We don' t have
12 that.
13 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: But I wonder
14 if your community knows that they have a
15 leeway of ten miles an hour over the posted
16 speed. Like if it says 25, you can go up to
17 35. I don' t suggest it, but up to 34 or
18 something. Because where I live is a thing
19 call the Bermuda Triangle of Nassau County,
20 it' s Plainview. There are three cameras in
21 a triangle around the area. But you know
22 what, slowly but surely, I know where they
23 are and I know that if I ' m going 40 on the
24 street and it' s 30 in front of the school, I
25 can go down to 35 and be fairly sure I ' m not
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2 getting a ticket for doing that. I ' m not
3 saying it' s perfect. What' s not perfect is
4 the lack of warning.
5 There is also not enough warning
6 if people are turning from a side street
7 after where the original sign was, then they
8 have no signs whatsoever.
9 MS. BROWN: Thank you.
10 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: There are a
11 lot of areas near St. Bridgets, in many
12 areas in my area near Our Lady of Mercy,
13 South Oyster Bay Road, that people, if they
14 turn in from a certain place, the sign is
15 before they ever come into that particular
16 path.
17 So, there' s a lot of things that
18 could be fixed and it' s not going to be a
19 fortune to fix it.
20 MS. BROWN: Thank you.
21 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: But if you
22 fix it, then people will trust us. If we
23 don' t , it - -
24 MS. BROWN: And they won' t say
25 what they don' t trust on the ballot box.
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2 LEGISLATOR JACOBS: If we don' t
3 fix it, that' s how we create distrust.
4 That' s my opinion.
5 MS. BROWN: Yes.
6 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you
7 very much, Olivia.
8 MS. BROWN: You' re welcome. I
9 wish something could be done about putting
10 proper signs.
11 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: Just real
12 briefly.
13 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
14 Solages.
15 LEGISLATOR SOLAGES: Olivia and
16 Joyce, I want to thank you very much for
17 coming down here today. Many of the
18 statements made by my colleague, Legislator
19 Jacobs, I agree with that there' s not enough
20 notice or proper due process we have here.
21 What we see here in my area in
22 Elmont, on Dutch Broadway in front of that
23 school, is not what we envisioned when we
24 passed this law. It' s up to the
25 administration to enforce this law. And the
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2 law is not being enforced as we envisioned
3 here on our side. We had the main concern
4 that we must give people notice that they
5 are in the zones. And the fact that the
6 administration stated, well, there is enough
7 notice, it' s a school district, we said, no,
8 that' s not enough notice. That' s just
9 simply a school. There are trees and other
10 issues on my block, signs that may not have
11 it reasonably available for their average
12 driver to understand that entering that
13 zone.
14 I received a number of phone
15 calls and letters regarding this issue. My
16 office as well as the office of Assembly
17 Woman Michaelle Solages, and we are taking
18 this under advisement and we' re going to try
19 to pressure the administration to do the
20 right thing by our dryers.
21 Also, when we passed this
22 legislation, we were not aware that the
23 administration was also planning a tax hike.
24 So, the tax hike plus the speed tickets now
25 is creating quite a lot of pressure on our
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2 every day hard working taxpayers and, again,
3 I ' m concerned about that. Right now we have
4 to create a balance because right now we
5 don' t see a balance. So, thank you for
6 coming down and we definitely will follow up
7 on this issue.
8 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I want you
9 to know, Ms. Brown, and I believe it was
10 Ms. Stowe , that we' re not taking a blind eye
11 to the comments that you have made here
12 today.
13 We are reviewing all the
14 financial possibilities to make the school
15 zones that are cited for ticketing more
16 visible and we are looking for sources of
17 revenue, and I believe that if this is the
18 case, I would hope that my colleagues in the
19 minority will help us in finding those
20 resources in making those flashing lights
21 that everyone thinks is necessary to protect
22 the motorists.
23 But, at the same time, remember
24 one thing, the speed zone has been placed
25 there for years at the school. The law is
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2 the law. Camera or no camera, we are
3 obligated to obey that law. But, I will
4 tell you now, that we are looking for
5 avenues in which we can honor some of the
6 requests that the residents have been
7 making.
8 So, thank you for coming down and
9 you have not spoken on deaf ears.
10 MS. BROWN: Thank you.
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Aaron
12 Watkins Lopez. I would say another seven or
13 eight minutes for public comment and I think
14 we may be able to get through all of them.
15 I don' t know. Go ahead.
16 MR. LOPEZ: Good afternoon. My
17 name is Aaron Watkins Lopez. I am with the
18 Long Island Bus Riders Union. I will be
19 very curt.
20 Last week I rode with four other
21 bus riders from Jamaica, Queens out to the
22 end of Long Island, both Orient point and
23 East Hampton Bay to talk to riders. The
24 trip took about 18 hours. We had to do it
25 in two days because of the lack of service
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2 in Suffolk County.
3 Along the trip we spoke to
4 hundreds of riders about the issues that
5 they' re facing both in Nassau and in
6 Suffolk. When it came to Nassau riders,
7 they are very well aware about the decrease
8 in service levels and the under maintenance
9 of their vehicles and the stresses of an
10 additional 25 cents.
11 Along the trip, I happen to
12 notice that NICE Bus has put in brand new
13 stickers on all the buses, basically letting
14 riders know that fare evasion is a crime,
15 which I thought was really interesting
16 because three months ago those didn' t exist.
17 On October 15th, we spent an hour
18 and a half at the Hempstead bus terminal
19 talking to riders. Legislator Curran
20 actually joined us for that. Thank you for
21 that.
22 We extended an invitation to NICE
23 Bus. And not only did they deny our
24 request, but they didn' t think that a public
25 meeting was productive.
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2 They also told us that they would
3 be more than happy to meet with us as long
4 as it wasn' t in open public space. This is
5 our bus company. This is the person that
6 you' ve given the reins to hoping that our
7 bus system would not fail. That is not a
8 good idea.
9 What I ' m calling for, what we as
10 bus riders of Nassau County are calling for
11 is rider representation. We cannot sit by
12 and let a bus company that doesn' t think
13 talking to riders face- to- face isn' t
14 important and run our system into the
15 ground.
16 We cannot rely on a
17 transportation committee where none of the
18 people on the committee have actually ridden
19 a bus. This is ridiculous. It is
20 imperative that we have rider representation
21 and it is imperative that, as our local
22 elected officials, you work with us as your
23 constituents, as your neighbors, as bus
24 riders of Nassau County. Thank you very
25 much.
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
3 Curran, then Patti Ambrosia.
4 LEGISLATOR CURRAN: I ' ll be very
5 brief because I know we' re very short. I
6 just wanted to point out to my fellow
7 legislators that in the proposed 2015
8 budget, there' s $ 5 . 4 million in the budget
9 in increased fair box revenue.
10 I am concerned that this may
11 result in a fair hike for the next year. I
12 know that we can probably offset that with
13 the - - there' s an estimated $ 5 million in
14 surplus in health insurance. So, perhaps we
15 can offset that fair increase with that
16 surplus.
17 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Patti
18 Ambrosia.
19 MS. AMBROSIA: Hello legislators.
20 I ' m Patti Ambrosia and I live in Island
21 Park. Back in, I believe it was March 24th,
22 2014 at the 1 : 00 p . m . Full Legislation
23 meeting, it was passed for the county to
24 approve an emergency management VIP splash
25 waterways recovery program of $ 4 million.
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2 With that said, I just want to
3 make sure that everybody up there
4 understands and everybody in my audience
5 understand that I ' m not talking about
6 splash. I ' m talking about VIP Splash that
7 the county basically hired. They were the
8 highest bidder at the time. I believe it
9 went through full legislation, and now they
10 are up to $ 12 million to clean our
11 waterways.
12 With that said and our taxes
13 going up at least three percent, my question
14 to the board is, at the time this took place
15 they were hoping for reimbursement from
16 FEMA. Are we reimbursed for this? And how
17 do I get proof?
18 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I have to
19 say, Ms. Ambrosia, that we will have to
20 refer that to the administration and find
21 out exactly what the source of the revenues
22 are.
23 MS. AMBROSIA: And somebody will
24 contact me?
25 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I imagine
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2 so, yes.
3 MS. AMBROSIA: My next quick
4 question would be, why would the county,
5 when the Town of Hempstead has conservation
6 of waterways, why would the county go ahead
7 and pay $ 12 million to a company to do the
8 same job when our taxes are already paying
9 through the Town of Hempstead?
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Question
11 number two, and we will refer it to the
12 administration. In the mean time,
13 Legislator Ford would like to respond to
14 you.
15 LEGISLATOR FORD: Patti, I will
16 definitely get that information. I ' ll find
17 out this afternoon. I think, though, even
18 with the Town of Hempstead, I know that for
19 the cleaning up and a lot of the stuff they
20 took out of the waterways done by the VIP
21 Splash, they had to use heavy duty
22 equipment.
23 MS. AMBROSIA: Which they had to
24 rent.
25 LEGISLATOR FORD: Yes.
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2 MS. AMBROSIA: Through the
3 county, I believe, the same thing that the
4 conservation of waterways would have been
5 doing. It would have saved the taxpayers a
6 lot of money.
7 LEGISLATOR FORD: I will check.
8 We can check with the Town of Hempstead, but
9 I honestly do not believe that they have the
10 equipment and - - that' s not a part of their
11 responsibility to clean all that.
12 Because of Sandy, I think that
13 was one of the reasons why, and I ' m - - I was
14 on the Rules Committee when they vetted the
15 whole contract out, but I know that it was
16 because a lot of stuff ended up - - the
17 waterways are bad enough as it is, but with
18 Sandy there was a lot more debris that was
19 washed into the waterways.
20 MS. AMBROSIA: Of course, but
21 with all due respect, Ms. Ford, it' s our
22 taxes, and it' s now up to $ 12 million. How
23 much more is a company that I believe is a
24 farce, when you look at the people who sit
25 on that board. Some of these people that
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2 are on that board are metropolitan who came
3 to Island Park after the flood and now all
4 of a sudden they open up VIP splash with
5 other representatives like Tom Asher from
6 Island Park. It just doesn' t make too much
7 sense when you start looking. I have stacks
8 and stacks of paperwork and so much that I
9 don' t even understand, and how anybody got
10 away with this.
11 LEGISLATOR FORD: I don' t know
12 but all contracts have to be vetted.
13 MS. AMBROSIA: Well, they' re the
14 highest bidder, and the legislature passed
15 it.
16 LEGISLATOR FORD: Aren' t they the
17 lowest responsible bidder? It was an RFP
18 that was issued. So it' s responded.
19 But, Patti, a lot of the people
20 who are in this company that are doing this
21 work, I know some of the names other than
22 Tommy Asher and they are reputable people.
23 MS. AMBROSIA: Of course they
24 are. And they have the wife from Splash on
25 it as well. If Splash is doing this for
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2 free, which is a wonderful organization, why
3 would we pay $ 12 million to VIP Splash?
4 LEGISLATOR FORD: But I think
5 with Operation Splash, they have been in
6 existence for 25 years.
7 MS. AMBROSIA: Of course.
8 LEGISLATOR FORD: And have been
9 at the forefront.
10 MS. AMBROSIA: So why bring in
11 VIP Splash?
12 LEGISLATOR FORD: I mean, they
13 are the ones that we started the Western
14 Bays Committee, where we had this study
15 being conducted - -
16 MS. AMBROSIA: I can' t agree with
17 you more.
18 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: He' s done
19 a phenomenal job.
20 MS. AMBROSIA: So why open VIP
21 Splash then? Why take tax dollars from the
22 people? $ 12 million is a lot of money.
23 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Ms.
24 Ambrosia, Legislator Ford said she was going
25 to find the answers to your questions and
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2 get back to you. So, that ends public
3 participation and we are going on to the
4 calendar as it exists. We will resume
5 public participation after the calendar.
6 Legislator Denenberg, you have one minute.
7 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Legislator
8 Delia DeRiggi and myself have put in a
9 request to find out how much funding that
10 was put in to FEMA and identify everything
11 that was put into FEMA.
12 Right now there is over $ 90
13 million at least that has not yet come back
14 from the federal government to the county.
15 Part of that would seem to be this $ 12
16 million contract VIP Splash. That went to
17 the Rules Committee actually that particular
18 contract. It didn' t go to the Full Leg.
19 Then it was amended.
20 You said that the first contract
21 was four, you' re correct, and then it was
22 amended to 12. We are looking just to
23 follow the money, a number of legislators,
24 to make sure everything that we were told
25 would be reimbursed through FEMA or our
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2 federal government as Sandy related
3 expenditures is reimbursed. My last
4 question to you, and to fit in - -
5 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
6 Denenberg, we are going to get the answers
7 that Ms. Ambrosia is seeking.
8 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Let me ask
9 her something.
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: I said to
11 you that I would appreciate if you stayed to
12 one minute. There are three or four other
13 people that I can' t call on because we
14 involve ourselves.
15 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: But she
16 mentioned something about where the material
17 is being stored after it comes in. Can you
18 just tell us where that is?
19 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
20 Ford will find out.
21 MS. AMBROSIA: I ' m sorry?
22 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: What are
23 they using, after material, boats, debris,
24 vessels are brought in from the waterways,
25 is there a storage - -
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2 MS. AMBROSIA: I don' t believe
3 there is a storage. I believe they go get
4 it weighed in in possibly Baldwin.
5 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Okay.
6 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Ms.
7 Ambrosia, I ' m glad that you' re here and I
8 will believe that Legislator Ford who said
9 she' ll get back to you will get back to you
10 with your concerns.
11 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Presiding
12 Officer, I do just want to repeat mine and
13 Delia DeRiggi- Whitton' s request that we want
14 to see where that $ 90 million is.
15 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Fine.
16 MS. AMBROSIA: Thank you.
17 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES:
18 Mr. Brummel, you are not the only one that
19 has not been called. We have exceeded the
20 half hour of public participation and we
21 will call on you as soon as the calendar is
22 addressed.
23 MR. BRUMMEL: But you gave 45
24 minutes to the police presentation.
25 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Don' t you
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2 question what I decided to do.
3 MR. BRUMMEL: And half the
4 speaking time to the transgender topic.
5 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Listen.
6 MR. BRUMMEL: You' re not giving a
7 fair opportunity for the public.
8 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: They spoke
9 in a timely fashion.
10 MR. BRUMMEL: 12 minutes.
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: They
12 didn' t go over. They did not. It' s not
13 because of them.
14 MR. BRUMMEL: What about last
15 time when it was two hours for the
16 transgender?
17 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: You can
18 wait until the end of the meeting.
19 MR. BRUMMEL: If the public comes
20 here to share issues with the board and then
21 you shut them down - -
22 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Excuse me,
23 Mr. Brummel.
24 MR. BRUMMEL: We' re not paid for
25 this, you' re paid for this.
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Thank you
3 very much.
4 MR. BRUMMEL: So for us to spend
5 the whole day here is a little different.
6 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: You can
7 stay until after the meeting and maybe you
8 will find out some of the other things that
9 we do.
10 MR. BRUMMEL: I know what you do.
11 It' s not too good. You give away the money.
12 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: At this
13 time, I believe that in conferring with the
14 minority, we have a consent calendar. I ' m
15 going to call those items first. Is
16 everyone in his or her seat?
17 We are going to begin with Item
18 3 , Ordinance 138; Item 4 , Ordinance 139;
19 Item 5 , Ordinance 140; Item 6 , Ordinance
20 141; Item 7 , Ordinance 142; Item 9 ,
21 Resolution 203; Item 10, Resolution 204;
22 Item 11, Resolution 205; Item 12, Resolution
23 206; Item 13, Resolution 207; Item 14,
24 Resolution 208; Item 15, Resolution 209;
25 Item 16, Resolution 210; Item 17, Resolution
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2 211; Item 18, Resolution 212.
3 That is the consent calendar and
4 I think you should know most of these items
5 went through committees and were voted upon
6 unanimously.
7 Motion for the consent calendar.
8 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
9 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Second.
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion by
11 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
12 Kopel. Any comments or questions from the
13 legislators regarding these items?
14 ( No verbal response. )
15 Is there any public comment
16 regarding the items just mentioned?
17 ( No verbal response. )
18 There being none, all those in
19 favor of the items called signify by saying
20 aye.
21 ( Aye. )
22 Any opposed?
23 ( No verbal response. )
24 The items pass unanimously.
25 Next is Item 8 , Resolution 202, a
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2 resolution authorizing the County of Nassau
3 to enter into the required sub- recipient
4 agreement with the Housing Trust Fund
5 Corporation as required in the
6 implementation of the New York State
7 Community Development Block Grant Disaster
8 Recovery, CDBG DR program and to authorize
9 the County Executive to sign any and all
10 documents required in the implementation of
11 the program.
12 A motion, please.
13 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
14 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Second.
15 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
16 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
17 Kopel. Who is here to speak on this item?
18 MR. MAY: We have Chief Deputy
19 County Executive Rob Walker who wanted to
20 speak on this item but he was delayed by
21 another meeting. If there are no questions,
22 we can pass it through. If there are some
23 questions, if we can wait a few minutes for
24 the chief deputy to be here.
25 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any
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2 questions from the legislators? Yes?
3 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Madam
4 Chair, I think we were looking for an
5 explanation from Deputy County Executive
6 Walker so if we don' t mind waiting. Not
7 that we have any apprehension, but we were
8 hoping for that explanation.
9 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Then I ' ll
10 move to table.
11 LEGISLATOR MUSCARELLA: Second.
12 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Seconded
13 by Legislator Muscarella. All those in
14 favor of tabling Item 8 signify by saying
15 aye.
16 ( Aye. )
17 Any opposed?
18 ( No verbal response. )
19 The item is tabled and, please,
20 before the end of the session make sure we
21 have, and I believe I ' m not going to be able
22 to call 1 because 1 was related to 8 .
23 MR. MAY: Presiding Officer,
24 Chief Deputy County Executive Walker is
25 here.
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion to
3 untable.
4 LEGISLATOR MUSCARELLA: So moved.
5 LEGISLATOR WALKER: Second.
6 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
7 Legislator Muscarella, seconded by
8 Legislator Walker. All those in favor of
9 untabling Item 8 signify by saying aye.
10 ( Aye. )
11 Any opposed?
12 ( No verbal response. )
13 Item 8 , Resolution 202 is now
14 before us. Mr. Walker, what can you tell
15 us? There are questions that had to be
16 addressed from the last committees .
17 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Sure. So,
18 again, this goes back to, if you actually - -
19 this is available online for all the
20 communities. You can actually look on the
21 Office of Storm Recovery New York. gov.
22 So, each conceptual plan is
23 listed for each community on that website.
24 It' s probably about 20, 30, 000 pages. So,
25 if anyone wants to go on, you can actually
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2 see the individual concepts and programs.
3 It' s about $ 7 50 million award that the state
4 has made to each community, and that' s each
5 dollar amount of which each community is
6 eligible up to is listed on that as well. I
7 don' t know if anyone had a chance to review
8 or see that, or if you have any questions, I
9 have some of those numbers.
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
11 Denenberg.
12 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Mr. Walker,
13 thank you. The $ 750 million that could be
14 awarded to a community under this Storm
15 Recovery Program would be for what
16 limitations or what usage, and why does this
17 enable us to - - does this expenditure
18 guarantee that we would get the award?
19 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Right. So,
20 first, and we mentioned this during
21 committees . Just to process, the county may
22 or may not be involved in one project, two
23 projects or 20 projects or 30. It' s really
24 going to be determined by the state. The
25 state would actually prefer that the local
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2 municipality by which is most impacted
3 actually receives the funding.
4 So, as this legislative body is
5 approving, or if you choose to approve the
6 item today, we will now have a sub- recipient
7 agreement in place with the State of New
8 York and it makes us eligible to, in fact,
9 receive dollars.
10 The Village of Freeport, the Town
11 of Oyster Bay, Town of Hempstead, the very
12 many villages, they are also going to be
13 entering into sub- recipient agreements . So,
14 all of the projects, and this went back
15 almost about a year, the governor created
16 the New York Rising Program and he allowed X
17 amount of money to the Community
18 Revitalization Program, Community
19 Revitalization Zones. Each community by
20 which they picked had a committee that was
21 formed by local residents, business leaders,
22 and things of that nature.
23 The committee determined what
24 those projects would be and, that' s , again,
25 if you go on their website, you will
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2 actually see, this is the one for Bay Park
3 and the Village of East Rockaway. They came
4 up with a conceptual plan. That conceptual
5 plan was then submitted to the state. Each
6 committee has their own planners which were
7 hired by the state, a representative from
8 the Department of State' s office, and they
9 worked through this whole process to
10 determine the projects.
11 They will be selecting those
12 projects and , again, they will be working
13 with the municipality on entering into
14 various programs by which the state selects.
15 Some of them are roadway improvements,
16 drainage improvements, and others are
17 landscaping improvements, raising building
18 projects.
19 So, it' s all projects that they
20 deemed eligible. Again, it' s coming from
21 HUD, so you have all the HUD compliance
22 issues that they have to reach.
23 In terms of Nassau County, the
24 dollars that we are definitely getting are
25 the $ 81 million for the ten percent match at
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2 Bay Park. That is for, again, the federal
3 government awarded $ 810 million, the $ 81
4 million match is being made up by this
5 program.
6 The ten percent match for all the
7 debris removal and things of that nature,
8 that will be coming to the county. And I ' m
9 trying to think, $ 20 million for the power
10 generation of Bay Park.
11 And then the only CRZ project by
12 which we will definitely be working with the
13 state on because there are multi layers of
14 multi jurisdictions is the Five Towns
15 Drainage Study by which the county will be
16 leading the role in that project.
17 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: So, that
18 was one of my next questions. This money,
19 as it relates to New Rising is the municipal
20 part of New York Rising where the CRZs were
21 set up, this would be funding provided for
22 county projects that could have fit under
23 the CRZ plan?
24 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: No. They
25 have already picked the projects. So the
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2 county is not picking the projects. There' s
3 not new projects or anything else. They
4 have already selected the projects by which
5 they are going to fund and then they are
6 deciding how they are going to actually
7 distribute those dollars. Some will come
8 through the county, and, in this case, Five
9 Towns will come through the county. I don' t
10 know of any others at this point. Because,
11 again, if the Town of Hempstead has more
12 roadways involved, it makes sense for the
13 Town of Hempstead to receive the dollars.
14 Doesn' t make sense for the county to receive
15 the dollars.
16 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Or in an
17 incorporated - -
18 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Or in an
19 incorporated village.
20 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: So, for
21 me, what I ' m familiar with would be a lot of
22 unincorporated areas like Merrick- Bellmore,
23 Wantagh, Seaford, that would have to be
24 directly with the town because most of the
25 road improvement would have been town roads?
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2 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes.
3 That' s the way I would understand it. But,
4 again, it could impact the county.
5 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: But, if
6 it' s a county road or county park, like
7 Cedar Creek or Bay Park, that' s just not
8 part of this?
9 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Bay Park is
10 coming through this project, the ten percent
11 match, the $ 81 million, and then $ 20 million
12 for the power generation.
13 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: What about
14 any resiliency or project that would affect
15 the county roads ?
16 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I just
17 don' t have the answer because each one could
18 be done differently.
19 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: But, right
20 now, within this, would be the $ 81 million
21 which would have been the county match for
22 the $ 810 million resiliency at Bay Park?
23 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Correct.
24 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: And the
25 only county road project would be the Five
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2 Towns?
3 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: That I know
4 of as of now.
5 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: All right.
6 I guess what I would love to understand
7 going forward just knowing the areas, that
8 when you looked at the CRZs, even the one
9 for Freeport, part of the suggested
10 projects, whether it was back- flow devices,
11 sea walls, drainage, affected even
12 incorporated villages, but certainly also in
13 the unincorporated areas, some of the county
14 roads. So, for example, along the south
15 shore, Merrick Road in the CRZs I saw, there
16 were some studies or requirements for
17 drainage that would have affected or
18 required work on Merrick Road.
19 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes, as
20 said, that may come to the county. I just
21 don' t have those answers yet.
22 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: And then
23 we would have to make a separate
24 application?
25 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes. The
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2 way that it' s actually being done is a
3 pre- application and there' s a formal
4 application. It' s really being done by the
5 state. It' s not, again, they have picked
6 what projects they' re going to fund. So
7 it' s not like there' s money sitting there
8 that we can, all of a sudden, apply for
9 funding.
10 They have selected the projects
11 by which they are going to undertake and now
12 they are going to, vis- a - vis, all these all
13 sub- recipient agreements that are going to
14 all the municipalities, they will determine
15 where, who will get, and who will actually
16 manage the funds .
17 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: So, by
18 doing this, what we are doing is we' re just
19 approving the agreement here?
20 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Correct.
21 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: And the
22 hope would be then that the county' s role
23 will be minimal in the process in terms of
24 funding, right?
25 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: They' ll be
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2 no - - in a sub- recipient agreement - - we
3 have the ability, again, say we will use the
4 Five Town Drainage Study, if that project
5 became a $ 7 million project and we were
6 initially were only funded by state for,
7 say, $ 5 million, we then have to make a
8 decision, do we want to continue or do we
9 not want to continue with the project,
10 mutually agreed, maybe we can find
11 additional funds from the state, and maybe
12 we can' t , and then we can - - we do not have
13 to enter into an agreement for that project.
14 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: All right.
15 And you' ll provide each of us with a list of
16 the amount of money that the Office of Storm
17 Recovery allocates to each locale?
18 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes. As I
19 said - -
20 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: All right.
21 I ' m just - - having gone to so many of these,
22 I ' m really interested in seeing how it' s - -
23 if it ever will all come together with the
24 towns or the villages.
25 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I
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2 understand.
3 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: And the
4 county and a ctually getting these projects
5 done.
6 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: The Village
7 of Freeport is actually eligible for up to
8 $ 18 million. That' s one of the largest,
9 Long Beach, City of Long Beach, up to $ 25
10 million, so there is a lot of money in some
11 of those areas.
12 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
13 Ford.
14 LEGISLATOR FORD: Thank you. I ' m
15 just going to piggyback onto what Legislator
16 Denenberg said. With this $ 750 million,
17 this is actually the whole pot that New York
18 State is granting through storm recovery,
19 and with the CRZs, the various groups will
20 be sharing this $ 750 million, correct?
21 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes.
22 Across the whole state.
23 LEGISLATOR FORD: But how much is
24 Nassau County getting? So the $ 750 million
25 is for all of New York State, and is this
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2 also then just for Hurricane Sandy though,
3 right, not for hurricane Irene?
4 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: It' s money
5 that came through the supplemental
6 appropriation of congress, and what they' ve
7 done - - and you can look up, I would say
8 it' s better to look on line and see what
9 they' re eligible for, Harbor Island is
10 eligible for up to $ 3 million, Island Park,
11 $ 7 . 4 million, Oceanside, $ 22. 1 , Baldwin 3 ,
12 Baldwin Harbor, 7 . 5 , and I can go through
13 all of these. Every one of these has an
14 eligibility amount that they are eligible
15 for.
16 LEGISLATOR FORD: And that was
17 the initial amount and then, obviously, if I
18 remember correctly, the governor said that
19 if the monies are spent to the betterment of
20 the neighborhood, and everybody is in
21 agreement, then it can open up for further
22 funding down the years.
23 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Right. If
24 there is funding available. Some areas may
25 not be able to spend all their money, but,
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2 so far, this is the allocation by community
3 that the governor has released.
4 LEGISLATOR FORD: Okay. So the
5 $ 750 million was all of New York which then
6 obviously includes New York City as well?
7 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: New York
8 City as well, correct.
9 LEGISLATOR FORD: Do you know how
10 much, was it $ 200 million for Nassau County
11 that we were looking at?
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I was
13 trying to add this up quickly in my head. I
14 don' t know what the exact amount was but it
15 was considerable. It' s up in the hundreds
16 of millions.
17 LEGISLATOR FORD: Okay. I thank
18 you very much.
19 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Mr. Walker,
20 can you get us a breakdown by county?
21 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes. I
22 just basically have it by village.
23 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: By county
24 I think would be helpful.
25 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I have to
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2 add it up just like you will.
3 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Probably
4 do it faster than some of us.
5 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I tried to
6 do it quickly in my head.
7 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
8 DeRiggi Whitton.
9 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: While
10 you' re adding, it' s like new math, Common
11 Core, can you answer a question?
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Sure.
13 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: This
14 money is allocated for projects, not so much
15 for repair, but for future preservation, is
16 that correct?
17 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: If you look
18 at each individual plan, everyone has done
19 it differently. Some areas have talked
20 about raising buildings, some people spoke
21 about - - like in Baldwin, for instance, they
22 are going to do an economic study, an
23 analysis of the actual area to try to
24 improve the down towns and things of that
25 nature.
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2 In many of the areas it was about
3 drainage. They have a major drainage
4 problem. Five Towns is looking at a Five
5 Towns drainage study to look at the whole
6 Five Towns, how it incorporates all
7 together, instead of each one doing it
8 individually where they' re not looking at a
9 global perspective. This will actually look
10 at it globally in the whole community.
11 Others have talked about raising
12 people' s homes. So everyone has different
13 levels. Some raising the road beds.
14 Everyone has done it differently depending
15 on what the need. The community group that
16 was formed and what they basically wanted to
17 do. This is just Five Towns. This is south
18 Valley Stream. Every one has their own
19 little plans which I would - - it would make
20 more sense just to go online and look at it
21 because some of them are like 200 pages
22 long.
23 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: I am
24 familiar with it a little bit. So,
25 basically, the money is going - - are we
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2 almost in like - - it' s almost like an IMA
3 type of situation with the county that it' s
4 coming through the county and then we' re
5 distributing it to - -
6 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: We would
7 actually run the project, the ones that we
8 get. So with the Five Towns Drainage Study
9 we go out for an RFP, we hire someone to do
10 the design, do the study and then they would
11 do the design and then the implementation
12 would take us to the next part if all the
13 villages may go out for bid at that time or
14 us, that' s what has to be determined by this
15 state.
16 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: So I
17 guess at that point, just to make sure we' re
18 not starting projects that we don' t have the
19 money to finish, at that point we look at it
20 and see whether or not we have enough money?
21 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Correct.
22 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: And
23 if it' s viable - -
24 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: 100 percent
25 correct.
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2 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: It
3 could be possible that projects might be
4 halfway done with some of this work and the
5 county may have to - -
6 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Yes.
7 That' s the good thing about it. When you go
8 out to bid you know the exact price. So at
9 that point you can make a reasonable - - and,
10 as I said, in the agreement we do have the
11 ability, if an unforeseen circumstance, if
12 one is costing double the amount of money,
13 we don' t have to go through with it.
14 We go back to the state and say,
15 look, here is what your cost estimate was,
16 it' s not accurate, and we can' t go forward.
17 Or they may come up with additional dollars,
18 or this legislative body may say we want to
19 fund it because it' s a great project.
20 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: So
21 we' re not held to any type of obligation?
22 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Zero.
23 Correct. Which is important. That was one
24 of the things we demanded because it doesn' t
25 make sense to do it any other way.
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2 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON:
3 First of all, your time is up for the math
4 problem. Second of all, could you also help
5 us just get that information before next
6 Wednesday? I love having all this
7 guaranteed money and all, but I just think
8 that we have to make sure we follow- up and
9 make sure it actually comes through. We
10 were told that $ 90 million was still
11 outstanding and it' s almost 24 months.
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER:
13 Unfortunately, though, that' s not uncommon.
14 If you look at every other storm - -
15 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: The
16 only other thing I would like to see which
17 I ' ve never seen, supposedly everything is in
18 writing that we' re being reimbursed, and I
19 have been requesting that for a long time.
20 I ' ve never - -
21 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: We will
22 definitely get it for you, the breakdown.
23 It' s right - - it' s public record.
24 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: In
25 order for us to do our job up here, we have
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2 to - - our final budget hearing is next
3 Wednesday. We' re supposed to vote about a
4 week later. If we could - - again, it should
5 be available.
6 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: It' s public
7 record so we will get it for you.
8 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: Yes.
9 The comptroller referenced it but I have not
10 seen it. I would like to have it like an
11 hour before the meeting.
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Chris Nolan
13 will get it to you before the end of the day
14 tomorrow.
15 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: I
16 appreciate your efforts. It' s just us
17 trying to be responsible for money. It' s
18 great to entrance these programs, that' s
19 great, just say FEMA is paying for it, but I
20 just want to make sure that at the end of
21 the day they do, and if $ 90 million - - I
22 guess it' s in accounts receivable right now,
23 but - -
24 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Correct.
25 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: - - if
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2 we don' t get it, that' s more of a deficit.
3 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: You have
4 the grant award. It takes time. If you
5 just look, and asked you, don' t look in
6 Nassau County. Look in other storms. There
7 are people still closing out storm
8 recoveries ten years later. That' s the
9 process.
10 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: You
11 know what, that' s the total opposite of what
12 we were told when we used this money which
13 was operational money. We used it knowing
14 that we would be 90 percent reimbursed
15 within 18 months, they said, and now we are
16 coming up on 24 months.
17 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: You have it
18 obligated. The money is obligated to the
19 county. You have a grant award. The
20 process will go through. We will get you
21 all those and you will actually see.
22 We have all of the agreements,
23 which is the project worksheets , it' s a
24 formal agreement and they reimburse us as it
25 goes forward. It' s a long process.
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2 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: There
3 was some issue - - and, again, I want to make
4 sure I ' m speaking correctly, but there was
5 congressional review with some of this?
6 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: If it' s
7 over X amount of money. So, Bay Park it
8 went through that process, it went through
9 congressional review, and we have the
10 project worksheet obligated, all $ 810
11 million, actually $ 730 million because it' s
12 90 percent. That' s already obligated to the
13 county.
14 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: But
15 what about the $ 90 million from - -
16 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: From what?
17 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: From
18 Sandy.
19 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: No. We
20 have that obligated. I don' t want to get
21 you c onfused. I ' m trying to be very
22 simplistic. You get a project worksheet for
23 the project. We have all of those approved.
24 We just didn' t receive the physical cash.
25 Receiving the cash takes a - - it' s going to
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2 take longer than 20 months. Again, there' s
3 communities that have had storms ten years
4 ago that they have not received. They are
5 obligated the money. They don' t receive it.
6 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: I ' ve
7 got to tell you that that' s so different
8 from what everyone was saying. Again, I
9 know a lot of the work had to be done. We
10 were told it would be within 18 months we
11 would have 90 percent and the other ten - -
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: I ' m going
13 to say this, we can' t tell the feds when to
14 pay us. I don' t think anyone else can.
15 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: I
16 want to see what you just mentioned. I want
17 to see that guarantee in writing.
18 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: We will get
19 you that.
20 LEGISLATOR DERIGGI- WHITTON: I ,
21 again, have been asking for this for so
22 long, Rob.
23 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: You will
24 have it by the end of the day tomorrow, if
25 not today.
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2 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any public
3 comment regarding this item, Item 8 ? I ' m
4 sorry. Legislator Curran had asked.
5 LEGISLATOR CURRAN: Just so I ' m
6 clear, this is basically entering an
7 agreement between the county and the state
8 so we can get money for New York Rising
9 projects on county land, county property?
10 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Correct.
11 LEGISLATOR CURRAN: Thanks.
12 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: And some
13 might not be county land.
14 LEGISLATOR CURRAN: Some night
15 not?
16 CHIEF DEPUTY WALKER: Again, the
17 Five Town Drainage Study, some of that may
18 involve some of the villages so we will
19 enter into IMAs with the village.
20 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Good job,
21 Legislator Curran.
22 Any public comment?
23 ( No verbal response. )
24 There being none, all those in
25 favor of Item 8 , Resolution 202 signify by
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2 saying aye.
3 ( Aye. )
4 Any opposed?
5 ( No verbal response. )
6 The item passes unanimously.
7 We have one more item on the
8 calendar which is Item 1 , Ordinance 136,
9 providing for a capital expenditure to
10 finance the payment of certain payments by
11 the County of Nassau to CSEA Nassau
12 Community College employees upon separation
13 from employment authorizing $ 2 , 141, 296. 58 of
14 bonds of the County of Nassau to finance
15 said expenditure and making certain
16 determinations pursuant to the State
17 Environmental Quality Review Act pursuant to
18 the Local Finance Law of New York and the
19 County Government Law of Nassau County.
20 A motion, please.
21 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
22 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: Second.
23 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
24 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
25 Kopel. What can you tell us?
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2 MR. MAY: We have Mr. Chuck
3 Catolo from the Community College if there
4 are any questions to be answered.
5 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any
6 questions on this item? I think Legislator
7 Jacobs is asking whether or not there is an
8 amendment on this item?
9 MR. MAY: Not on this item.
10 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Do you
11 need Mr. Catolo to speak to us on this item?
12 Any public comment on it?
13 ( No verbal response. )
14 There being none, all those in
15 favor of Item 1 signify by saying aye.
16 ( Aye. )
17 Any opposed?
18 ( No verbal response. )
19 The item passes unanimously.
20 Mr. Clerk, we have two
21 emergencies. Would you please declare those
22 emergencies.
23 CLERK MULLER: You want them
24 separately, correct?
25 We have an emergency by the
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2 County Executive, the first one is on Clerk
3 Item 444- 14, which would become Emergency
4 Resolution 41, Ordinance 137, which is an
5 emergency resolution providing for a capital
6 expenditure to finance the payment of
7 certain payments by the County of Nassau to
8 CSEA employees upon separation from
9 employment and authorizing $ 3 , 154, 246. 47 of
10 bonds of the C ounty of Nassau to finance
11 said expenditure and making certain
12 determinations pursuant to State
13 Environmental Quality Review Act pursuant to
14 the Local Finance Law of New York and the
15 County Government Law of Nassau County.
16 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion to
17 establish the emergency.
18 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
19 LEGISLATOR WALKER: Second.
20 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion by
21 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
22 Walker. All those in favor of establishing
23 the emergency for Item 444 which is 2 on the
24 full calendar signify by saying aye.
25 ( Aye. )
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2 Any opposed?
3 ( No verbal response. )
4 The emergency has been
5 established. Any comments?
6 ( No verbal response. )
7 As I said before, it' s Item 2 on
8 the Full Leg calendar, Ordinance 137,
9 providing for a capital expenditure to
10 finance the payment of certain payments by
11 the County of Nassau to CSEA employees upon
12 separation from employment and authorizing
13 $ 5 , 592, 398. 50 of bonds of the county of
14 Nassau to finance said expenditure and make
15 certain determinations pursuant to State
16 Environmental Quality Review Act pursuant to
17 the Local Finance Law of New York and the
18 County Government Law of Nassau County.
19 Now the amendment in the nature
20 of a substitution and here is where the
21 amount of $ 5 million plus has been replaced
22 with the sum of $ 3 , 154, 246. 47.
23 All those in favor of the
24 amendment to the original Item 2 signify by
25 saying aye.
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2 ( Aye. )
3 Any opposed?
4 ( No verbal response. )
5 The amendment passes. Now for
6 the Item 2 as amended. All those in favor
7 of Item 2 as amended signify by saying aye.
8 ( Aye. )
9 Any opposed?
10 ( No verbal response. )
11 The item passes unanimously.
12 We didn' t establish the other
13 emergency yet so please call that emergency
14 item.
15 CLERK MULLER: The second
16 emergency resolution from the County
17 Executive is Clerk Item 446- 14 which, if
18 established, would be Emergency Resolution
19 42, Ordinance 142A , which is an ordinance
20 providing for a capital expenditure to
21 finance the payment of certain judgements,
22 awards, determinations or compromise or
23 settle claims against the County of Nassau
24 authorizing $ 542, 746. 09 of bonds of the
25 C ounty of Nassau to finance said expenditure
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2 and making certain determinations pursuant
3 to State Environmental Quality Review Act
4 pursuant to the Local Finance Law of New
5 York and the County Government Law of Nassau
6 County.
7 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion,
8 please.
9 LEGISLATOR NICOLELLO: So moved.
10 LEGISLATOR MUSCARELLA: Second.
11 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Motion by
12 Legislator Nicolello, seconded by Legislator
13 Muscarella.
14 A vote to accept the emergency.
15 All those in favor signify by saying aye.
16 ( Aye. )
17 Any opposed?
18 ( No verbal response. )
19 The e mergency has been
20 established.
21 Now, for the item which is as
22 stated, I tem 446- 14, an ordinance providing
23 for a capital expenditure to finance the
24 payment of certain judgements, awards,
25 determinations or compromise or settle
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2 claims against the County of Nassau
3 authorizing $ 542, 746. 09 of bonds of the
4 C ounty of Nassau to finance said expenditure
5 and making certain determinations pursuant
6 to State Environmental Quality Review Act
7 pursuant to the Local Finance Law of New
8 York and the County Government Law of Nassau
9 County.
10 Motion, please.
11 LEGISLATOR KOPEL: So moved.
12 LEGISLATOR WALKER: Second.
13 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
14 Legislator Kopel, seconded by Legislator
15 Walker. Any questions regarding this item?
16 Legislator Kevan Abrahams.
17 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Thank you,
18 Madam Chair. Ms. Locurto, I don' t know if
19 you' re going to know the answer to this, but
20 we' re just trying to get a handle on how
21 many of these particular judgments can we
22 expect in the future?
23 MS. LOCURTO: I don' t have a
24 definite number. This is just one that is
25 separate from the outstanding cases that are
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2 still being litigated.
3 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Do you
4 anticipate a time frame of when we will
5 expect to see more?
6 MS. LOCURTO: I wouldn' t want to
7 mislead you with a definite deadline. But
8 it will be relatively soon because we are at
9 really the end stages of the litigation.
10 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Are there
11 judgments also against Hempstead and Oyster
12 Bay?
13 MS. LOCURTO: There are judgments
14 that the utility companies have against the
15 individual towns but there are no judgments
16 against the county yet.
17 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: So, once
18 there are, you will be coming to us?
19 MS. LOCURTO: Yes, they will be,
20 eventually.
21 LEGISLATOR ABRAHAMS: Thank you.
22 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Legislator
23 Denenberg.
24 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Ms.
25 LoCurto, in addition to the two other towns,
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2 Hempstead and Oyster Bay, are there any
3 other cases, are there ones involving any of
4 the villages as well?
5 MS. LOCURTO: It just involves
6 the three towns, the Town of Oyster Bay,
7 Town of North Hempstead, and Town of
8 Hempstead. This particular case that' s
9 before you is with the Town of North
10 Hempstead.
11 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: And it' s
12 $ 542, 000?
13 MS. LOCURTO: Correct. That' s
14 including the two percent cost of issuance
15 for the bond.
16 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: With the
17 Town of Hempstead being much larger, would
18 it be a much bigger amount?
19 MS. LOCURTO: I couldn' t say at
20 this time because the judgments haven' t been
21 served on the county.
22 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: This is
23 the - -
24 MS. LOCURTO: This is North
25 Hempstead, just to clarify.
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2 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: So, we' re
3 paying back what was in the Town of North
4 Hempstead versus New York Telephone, I guess
5 was the original name plaintiff for the
6 overcharging of utilities based on the class
7 system I guess?
8 MS. LOCURTO: No, this was the
9 utility companies made a claim that they
10 should not be assessed in their garage
11 districts, that they did not create - - that
12 they could not benefit from the service
13 provided and therefore it was an illegal
14 assessment.
15 LEGISLATOR DENENBERG: Thank you.
16 I would suspect then Hempstead would be a
17 lot larger, a lot more districts?
18 MS. LOCURTO: Probably yes.
19 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Any public
20 comment on this item?
21 ( No verbal response. )
22 There being none, all those in
23 favor of Item 446- 14 signify by saying aye.
24 ( Aye. )
25 Any opposed?
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2 ( No verbal response. )
3 The item passes unanimously.
4 I believe that ends the Full Leg
5 and, as promised earlier, we have a few
6 speakers who submitted slips. I don' t know
7 if Dominica Califano is still here. No, I
8 guess not. Richard Brummel? I guess not.
9 And Kimberly Sagget? They didn' t know we
10 were going to have a short calendar.
11 Motion to adjourn, please.
12 LEGISLATOR DUNNE: So moved.
13 LEGISLATOR BECKER: Second.
14 CHAIRWOMAN GONSALVES: Moved by
15 Legislator Dunne, seconded by Legislator
16 Becker. All those in favor of adjourning
17 signify by saying aye.
18 ( Aye. )
19 Any opposed?
20 ( No verbal response. )
21 We are now adjourned. We are
22 going to do a quick Rules Committee, three
23 items.
24 ( Whereupon, the Full Legislative
25 Committee adjourned at 3 : 01 p . m . )
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