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On the release of , his first solo in six years, discusses digital versus analogue, insanity and psychedelia, and making music in his basement.

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The backdrop to Richard Ashcroft’s latest Ashcroft ‘Captain Rock’ before dedicating If I turned the radio on, I would solo album, These People, was, he felt, the song ‘Cast No Shadow’ to him, from the hear ‘Lucky Man’ or I’d meet decidedly turbulent. He has described it album (What’s the Story) Morning Glory? someone on the street and they’d I started to think, is it enough in 2016 to just have four or five as a time of contentious wars, grassroots ’s most critically acclaimed LP say, “Nice one Richard, thanks movements turning into semi-revolutions, from 1997 spawned the huge for that tune.” And that keeps guys churning out stuff that essentially you could have seen such as the events in Tahrir Square, people hit singles ‘’, ‘The you in the present every day. So divided and a sense that everything was Drugs Don’t Work’, and ‘Lucky Man’. during any gap I take I’m always in 1972? falling to pieces across the world. It was to be the band’s last LP (until they feeding off the fact that I wrote “ It is also Ashcroft’s first release since reformed eight years ago for the album tunes that people loved and still we are already on a loser. Your 2010 under the pseudonym RPA and the Forth) before the lead singer set out on his love. But no matter who you are Jacket by Belstaff; jeans by Lee; sunglasses by Ray-Ban. components for your art are really United Nations of Sound. On the single solo career. Released in 2000, Ashcroft’s you can get in a kind of rut. Then limited if you just come at it from ‘Born Again’, from the album United included the single about a year and half ago my the old angle. But even going Nations of Sound, Ashcroft sang: “Now ‘’ with a video by momentum changed and I’ve back to ‘Bitter Sweet Symphony’, I’m a man who ain’t afraid, I’ve destroyed Sexy Beast and Under the Skin director been working every day to take I was always looking at different my ego just to make the space, cause I’m . Ashcroft followed the LP it to the next level. ways of writing through sampling born again. When I feel a melody, I get a with Human Conditions, his most personal a three-chord thing and building righteous charge right through me.” And release to date. “When I’m low, and I’m You began this LP in your on it. In a way, I’ve come back to it is his unbridled belief in the power of weak, and I’m lost I don’t know who I can basement studio. How important a reality in world that music to both heal and agitate that has trust. Paranoia, the destroyer, comes was that time? is tailor-made for me, in that made him one of the most misunderstood knocking on my door. You know the pain Very important, that was the genres are breaking down. rock stars of his generation. drifts to days, turns to nights, but it slowly amazing for me. Most interviews With the rise of electronic music It’s been that way since Ashcroft and will subside,” sang Ashcroft on the lead I have done in my life have ended the doors have opened for a a group of friends from in the north single ‘’. And he has up not talking about music. . The game is on now of England formed the Verve and signed subsequently spoken of his struggles with Because I was a pretty face or – Jimi Hendrix died a long time to in 1990. “I believe you can depression. “Without music and creativity, I was this or that there was this ago and there are not many of fly and I believe in astral travel, because, I’d need other forms of therapy,” he told idea that I was not as valid as a those virtuoso guitar guys who if I thought I was just going to walk around . “But for me, the life Wire magazine guy or whatever. can come up with something in this place for the next 50 years, I don’t process is the process of healing yourself.” But I am there in my basement those first few bars that can blow think I could exist,” he proclaimed in 1992 It was four years before Ashcroft trying to work out Linn’s new your mind. There are only so prior to the release of their acid-drenched returned with his next LP, Keys to the drum machine, I am working on many places you can go with single ‘All in the Mind’. The group’s love of World, after he took time out to bring Moog’s new bass thing. I’m trying a basic instrument, but when psychedelia resulted in their debut album up his two kids with Kate Radley, former to work on an old synth that I’ve you start with the sounds from , which can now be seen keyboardist with . And it has never used before and trying to computers it can just engulf as a link between the album H.P. Lovecraft been an even longer break between United find my way around it in the you because the possibilities are II by American band Nations of Sound and These People. The language of that machine. insane. But at the same time, H. P. Lovecraft in 1968 and Sun Structures new LP sees him working again with Wil And also looking at how those it doesn’t matter how many by Temples in 2014. Brian Cannon, who Malone, strings arranger for the Verve’s machines can be incorporated plug-ins you use it doesn’t sound would later create iconic sleeves for Urban Hymns, and French electronic into the classic nature of what like the real thing. It’s been a real Oasis, designed the cover. And it was producer Mirwais on what could well I do. So all those creative things transition for me using both who nicknamed Richard be his best solo album yet. that were in my head were digital and analogue. thrashed around in my cellar, It’s been six years since your last LP, why which gave me lots of freedom. When was the transition from the gap? your basement to ’s There were lots of different reasons. But the Did you have any of that creative Sugar Cane Studios and what thing is people are coming to this with the space prior to any of your happened in that process. concept that time away from making music other LPs? I took it to other studios first. I is either time wasted or redundant time. So I had a bit of preparation before had what I thought was a finished it’s their concept of time. I believe being away Human Conditions, but this is album. But I came to the from that pressure on time is the best time the first time sinceUrban Hymns conclusion that it wasn’t clear spent. What are we working for and what are that I’ve really had the full time enough. There were great we rushing through life for? But in a way it to refine things and also to reject moments of musicality but I felt was a novel experience and an unusual thing, shit and hone things down. like I needed to reconnect again as musicians usually get on that gravy train with songs that communicate and they can’t get off. Listening to the LP it sounds like something that is very real and the mix of analogue and digital basic. Then songs like ‘Black Is that because the music industry expects has been really important. Lines’ and ‘These People’ came the artist to have an album out every couple I really started to dwell on the and there started to be a theme. It of years? way we are going and what is was like I was fighting for my own Yes, exactly, and also the star thing and rock’n’roll. Is it enough in 2016 space and freedom so there was maintaining a level of celebrity influences to just have four or five guys an internal battle for that. And the whole of this. The industry can’t imagine churning out stuff that essentially then at the same time, over the not posting something on social media from you could have seen in 1972? years of making this record, there one hour to the next, never mind a number of Plus, you are competing against had been outbreaks of resistance years. But the thing was that during this gap, electronic music and hip-hop. in various parts of the world. You my music from the past was still being played. I came to the conclusion that had the neo-conservatives with

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their foreign policy for how many countries philosophies about what it is to be modern new panacea, a synthesised idea in the Middle East they were going to but also play a guitar like it’s 1956. of some kind of spirituality. It not destabilise. And so they have now spread only distorted things back in the chaos across the world. At one point, I Being on stage on your own is still something 1960s, it saw my generation take wondered whether the record would even that excites you? part in it as well when we were come out, because the world was on such a That very punk rawness of being on your kids. We all got involved in it knife-edge. So I really felt like I didn’t have own with a guitar and nothing else to depend and I was like a lot of people a lot of time. on is what I’m all about right now. I saw this and thought, yeah right, lets stick clip of me playing in Mexico to 30,000 people it [LSD] in the water. But a lot Did that urgency really affect the making of and thought that is it, that’s what I want to of people were lost along the way, the LP? project. I’m part of this lineage and tapping and the way it confused a lot of Yeah absolutely, I really felt like it was time to into something deep that I don’t really things worried me. I saw the very move on and I feel there is a real momentum understand. The more plastic or homogenised early days of all that when you’d now for me as a writer. So on something like things become the purer it is when someone see the midweek depressions in ‘Out of my Body’, it’s me saying: “I’ve opened stands there in front of you knowing it can people. It was unbelievable. the door by mixing Johnny Cash into Chic. collapse at any moment. As a solo artist I Where do I go now?” really am vulnerable and the crowd knows At the same time, psychedelic that. music had a huge influence on ‘Out of my Body’ includes the lyric “Don’t Go the Verve’s early sound. looking for Watergate”. Can you explain the How is playing live different now to back in I couldn’t listen to H.P. Lovecraft meaning behind it? the days of the Verve? and be 18 and not feel part of it It’s saying if you go looking for your Watergate Shows have generally become so governed from where I am from. That was they will destroy you. These people who are by the lighting and sound guys, it’s all the mad thing about it, most of trying to enlighten the general public as to pre-programmed. It’s not like the old days my contemporaries were taking what is going on generally end up hunted. when these guys were like another member drugs and going to clubs and we of the band. It was about all the little things were doing it and listening to the I remember seeing you wearing a ‘Free they could add to the experience, playing with widest and most eclectic range Bradley Manning’ T-shirt at a gig. the night and atmosphere with you. You can of music. In the north west, Yeah it was appalling all that business. It forget any of that improvisation now – it will in towns like and seemed like at the time it was almost as if the be the same in Chicago as it was in Boston. Liverpool, the older generation force was really showing itself. The whole But at the same time, as I get older the less had the greatest record thing was a joke. There were a lot of similar time I have as a musician for improvisation. collections in the world. They cases going on in America at the time as well. You don’t have time to listen to some were generally old hippies who long-haired dude’s 15-minute guitar solo. And were the first people at the early Is this search for freedom something that that’s why when I look at that psychedelic era punk gigs. hangs over the LP? it all looks like one big experiment. It doesn’t hang over it all but it kind of mirrors It was like an experiment under the guise of You mean people like Factory my own inner search for peace and freedom freedom of expression and sexual liberation, Records producer Martin within myself. Looking at my own desires, but as far as music goes a lot of the acts before Hannett and Durutti Column fears and insecurities and the programming psychedelia were actually better. They had drummer Bruce Mitchell? I’ve consumed, how much of me is just a more clarity. I take as a great Exactly. They had all the amazing farce. How much every day do you really example of that. When I was 16 or 17, I might records and they passed it on to connect with yourself or how much do other have been listening to Sgt Pepper and shit like the new generation. Pre-internet people’s insecurities or vibe impinge on you? that, but other than ‘A Day in the Life’ and a it was all word of mouth. You just few other moments it’s just not an album I went into someone’s house and With its folk-like opening merging into an want to go back to. I’d rather hear ‘She Loves they had this mind-blowing electronic dance hook, ‘Out of my Body’ is an You’. There is an energy and youthful zest in music. In some ways, it was too interesting record. How did it come about? that earlier music, a pre-corrupted sound that much information to take in for I sent Mirwais what is essentially the goes right through those early records through us as kids. Chic-type element of it thinking that he to Revolver. There is something sick actually would expand the dance thing further. And about [the use of LSD in] the psychedelic What was it like to work with Wil he came back with this folky acoustic loop. era for me now that maybe appeals to some Malone again on the new LP? You would have expected it to have been the people. It’s everyone’s wilful acceptance of It was fantastic to be with him other way around. But it switched. something that other than the doctor who and to hear his sound again with invented it [Albert Hofmann], was always my voice. It’s like a match made When were you introduced to his music? used as an experimental thing for in heaven. I always loved working Years ago. The guy who plays drums for me governments up to that point. So for that with him going right back to was doing some work for Madonna and then to suddenly become a synthetic key to walking into the studio and Mirwais went out and did a couple of a spiritual experience is a bit of a joke. hearing him on ‘History’ [from with her. Then when we met in Paris we the Verve’s second album, A poured out our thoughts about music and Do you think the psychedelic era was also ]. I was like, ‘Yes, me where we were. And we came to the bit too middle class? and that dude, let’s do it.’ To be conclusion that there were a lot of copies, Absolutely. That’s why looking back you can honest I’d do the next 10 albums Jacket by Baracuta; jeans by Lee; T-shirt and watch, or what he calls imposters, of what we were see why Pete Townshend wrestled with the with him. The whole thing on model’s own; sunglasses by Ray-Ban; belt by Folk. both doing. He’s got some really interesting whole thing. It really was thought of as this this LP was, how do I bring what

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I’m just this skinny kid from the outskirts of Wigan, but I can reach right across the world. Big dreams – that’s what “it’s all about.

of enjoy it, in the sense that this whole ordered way of learning is that you have less What is the most important thing madness/sanity thing is an argument we preconceived ideas. By the time you get to music can do? could have all year. Whose reality is sane? university, and you’ve got your chosen field, It can offer transience. It can I thought it just showed how conservative a you are then at the mercy of your professor heal. Thousands of years ago, Jacket by Caruso; jeans by Lee; time we were living in. The reason that ‘Mad and his tight intellectual bubble. And that is people probably knew better than trainers by Converse; sunglasses by Ray-Ban. Richard’ thing came about was that I told this what you find in life as well. We all exist in we do now what tones can do. journalist I believed I could fly. Again it goes our bubbles, with preconceived ideas that Music can probably move stone, back to, OK, I’m not just going to be in a band have been passed on to us by family or peers, who knows. We can see how and make a record, if I want to I’m going to the culture that either makes you anxious or different tones and stuff can fly. So deal with it. Let’s smash every sells you something. It’s all down to that at affect cell structure. So if you put preconceived idea of what is possible. Let’s the end of the day. When you are fearful of in general love and positivity and go to the extreme. So it was a metaphor that something you want to fill the hole. It’s like, realness into your work I hope unfortunately they didn’t understand. It was ‘How can I feel safer and less anxious, I better the cell structure of my listener just a basic metaphor for life. That you can go and buy something then.’ changes with it. I admire poets achieve anything you put your mind to. I was and painters but nothing comes trying to say I was just like you, I’ve just been Do you mean that could be either Prozac or near to music. I’m involved in the on the dole for X amount of years, I got five a new jacket? greatest art form in the world. GCSEs at C grade but I’m about to embark Yeah exactly, and that’s the thing about the I’m just this skinny kid from the on my own education. way these people keep you in a constant state outskirts of Wigan, but I can of anxiety on any level. The only way we feel reach right across the world. Big Have you always had an enquiring mind? we can fill that void from feeling unstable dreams – that’s what it’s all about. Wil and Mirwais do and what I do and fuse feminine qualities to them. It was a really escapades I had been up to I My granddad was a big stargazer and I lived or not safe is doing something that gives us that into something extraordinary. special moment in time, but none of us knew could mythologise myself way next door to him. We would go on lots of a little endorphin rush or a little sense of The album These People by it. We were hearing the whole album live way more. walks together and he would point out familiarity. So the breaking down of all that Richard Ashcroft is out now Is it important for you to create music that is before it came out so were really part of it. constellations. We would go and look at is good and then you start again. And that’s cookingvinyl.com popular as well as interesting? The Roses came along at a time when I was Was it good to get away from all the satellites and all that. There was a deep the same with my music; I’m going to break I always wanted to create something that so bored they reignited the sense of ‘yeah, that attention after the last LP? connection to that. My granddad had a myself down and build myself up again. I’m Richard Ashcroft performs at the is in keeping with people like Phil Spector you can say no’. You do what you feel is right. What was good about the few good way of making me understand things. not there yet but there will be a point that , Newport, on and Brian Wilson. And I have never been Their whole philosophy would be so good years off was that I didn’t have a Whereas so much since has been about I make something that is beautiful as a whole 11 June and Bellahouston Park, ashamed of that because I know how much now with a generation of young musicians mobile phone for four years and keeping us down and divided and focuses but also indefinable in popular culture either , on 26 August popular culture enriched my life as a kid. It raised on the idea that there is this panel of I was in my cellar safe as houses. on something so far from what my granddad at the time or in the past. That’s the dream. richardashcroft.com was life. You hear the Smiths’ ‘How Soon is people who are going to decide if you are good I also sifted out the useless phone was showing me. It’s Now?’ for the first time when you are 14 or enough. I thought as a band we were carrying calls and people who didn’t really all two-dimensional. 15 and it’s a gateway into a whole new world. on what the Roses did. care, and got back to my hard I used to talk a lot And that’s why it’s so important that pop core of friends who had been with about ultimate reality culture remains vital, with people wanting How do you feel about the way you were me since childhood. I’ve got three and people used to to take it to another level. represented in the press? or four really close friends and think of it as some Jacket by Alpha Industries; trousers, T-shirt, When I got married and we had our first that is what you need because it’s sort of hippy bullshit, scarf, watch and socks, model’s own; trainers Another major influence was the Stone child, it was the journalists and taste makers closer to the truth. When the shit but I couldn’t explain by Converse; sunglasses by Ray-Ban. Roses. Can you explain what impact they at that time who weren’t ready for that. They hits the fan you are not going to it any other way. had on you? were like, ‘Oh no man, can you not have kids, have 10,000 Facebook friends I’ve always had that It was massive for me. Huge. That is my Sex can’t you get a really bad smack habit instead. coming down to help you. Also, oversensitivity. Pistols right there. A transcendent moment For fuck’s sake you’re supposed to die now.’ the more famous I became the Whatever it is that that will never be repeated no matter who I That was the thing I was always aware of, less meaningful the interactions shields us from the go to see. There were so many elements to it being put in this box. And these journalists were becoming with nearly realities that are that were incredible, it was only in the years were always trying to put me back in this box everyone in my life. Every going on right now, to come I completely understood why. Every by telling the readers my dot-to-dot life, which interaction was loaded. Most with someone like me element was different and it created a model was bullshit anyway. That’s the crazy thing. things that come into your life it’s more open. for the way I think about everything. But I’ve never bothered to address most of the come loaded with insecurity. So shit that’s written about me because it created down in the cellar making this And you’re What made those early Stone Roses gigs in so many layers of crap in the end it was great. LP, I cut all this out. continually on that 1989 so special? search for The crowd you’d get at places like Warrington Do you mean being mythologised? How did you feel during the Verve knowledge? Legends, it was very fucking male, very full I don’t think the mythology is close to the days when the press came up with It never ends. The on real lads, but the band was playing these reality in a way. If I was more hip-hop in my things like ‘Mad Richard’? great thing about not really beautiful songs that had a lot of representation of how I’d been living and the It didn’t take me that long to sort going through the

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