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Vol. 590 Tuesday, No. 1 12 October 2004 DI´OSPO´ IREACHTAI´ PARLAIMINTE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES DA´ IL E´ IREANN TUAIRISC OIFIGIU´ IL—Neamhcheartaithe (OFFICIAL REPORT—Unrevised) Tuesday, 12 October 2004. Business of Da´il……………………………… 1 Ceisteanna—Questions Minister for Defence Priority Questions …………………………… 1 Other Questions …………………………… 13 Adjournment Debate Matters …………………………… 37 Leaders’ Questions ……………………………… 39 Requests to move Adjournment of Da´il under Standing Order 31 ……………… 46 Order of Business ……………………………… 47 Estimates for Public Services 2004: Leave to Introduce ………………… 53 Estimates for Public Services 2004: Referral to Select Committee ……………… 53 Membership of Committees: Motion ………………………… 53 Adoptive Leave Bill 2004 [Seanad] Second Stage ……………………………… 54 Referral to Select Committee ………………………… 85 Private Members’ Business Health Services Motion …………………………… 86 Adjournment Debate Job Initiative ……………………………… 117 School Accommodation …………………………… 119 Hospitals Building Programme ………………………… 121 Telecommunications Services ………………………… 124 Questions: Written Answers …………………………… 129 1 2 DA´ IL E´ IREANN DI´OSPO´ IREACHTAI´ PARLAIMINTE PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES TUAIRISC OIFIGIU´ IL OFFICIAL REPORT Imleabhar 590 Volume 590 De´ Ma´irt, 12 Deireadh Fo´mhair 2004. Tuesday, 12 October 2004. ———— Chuaigh an Ceann Comhairle i gceannas ar 2.30 p.m. ———— Paidir. Prayer ———— Business of Da´il. Minister for Defence (Mr. O’Dea): In March Minister of State at the Department of the 2002, Dr. Eileen Doyle and the external advisory Taoiseach (Mr. Kitt): I propose, notwithstanding committee group presented their report, The anything in Standing Orders that the Da´il shall Challenge of a Workplace, to my predecessor, proceed directly to questions for answer by the Deputy Michael Smith. The contents and recom- Minister for Defence which shall conclude at mendations of the Doyle report were accepted 4.15 p.m. in full. Action to implement the recommendations of An Ceann Comhairle: Is that agreed? Agreed. the report has been a priority since that time. The follow-up action was driven by an independent monitoring group established in May 2002 to Ceisteanna — Questions. oversee the implementation of recommendations arising from the report. This group met regularly Priority Questions. to oversee the implementation of the report’s recommendations. ———— The independent monitoring group’s progress report, Response to the Challenge of a Work- Bullying in Defence Forces. place, was launched by my predecessor, Deputy 1. Mr. McGinley asked the Minister for Michael Smith, on Friday 24 September 2004. Defence the measures he plans to adopt to This describes the progress achieved to date since address the incidence of bullying, discrimination the publication of the original Doyle report in and all forms of harassment within the Defence 2002. Forces, according to the recently published The monitoring group has overseen the con- report, Response to the Challenge of a Work- duct of a major educational awareness pro- place, which identified harassment as a serious gramme throughout the Defence Forces. Con- cause for concern in the forces; and if he will siderable progress has been made in the past two make a statement on the matter. [24514/04] years. Firm guiding principles had already been 3 Priority 12 October 2004. Questions 4 [Mr. O’Dea.] The Defence Forces are in the process of set out in the Defence Forces dignity in the work- developing an active and strategic human place charter. resource management model of personnel man- A new administrative instruction on interper- agement, development and leadership under the sonal relationships was introduced in March 2003 new integrated personnel management system. and a user’s guide was distributed to every mem- This is an important step that will facilitate and ber of the Defence Forces. The new instruction hasten the achievement and consolidation of our describes the six key relevant domains of inter- shared objectives. The tangible end result will be personal relationship within the Defence Forces. a modern and contemporary Defence Forces that It sets out contemporary best practice for policy can serve as an international role model. and procedures in dealing with negative work- Every member of the Defence Forces has a place behaviours. It lists the full set of formal and right to be treated with respect and dignity and informal complaint procedures that may be util- to work within the Defence Forces free from har- ised by any party wishing to institute a complaint. assment, sexual harassment, bullying and dis- Some 200 trained designated contact persons are crimination. The monitoring group has explicitly being put in place throughout the organisation to recommended that a further independent review facilitate the operation of these procedures. and audit of progress within the Defence Forces An independent and external confidential free be carried out no later than 2007 and that the telephone helpline and counselling service has results should be made public. been set up by expert consultants from Northern Ireland staff care services. Each serving member Mr. McGinley: I congratulate the Minister on of the Permanent Defence Force was informed of his first official visit to the Da´il in his role as Mini- this service. A pilot project to record the experi- ster for Defence in answering questions. I hope ences and views of outgoing members of the he has a happy and successful sojourn in that Defence Forces was conducted by the Dublin position. I am sure he will understand if I express Institute of Technology research centre. the hope that it will not be too long and that he The particular challenges of the military train- may soon be looking at it from this side of the ing environment were identified in the Doyle House. report. This area has been given particular atten- I was delighted the Minister’s first official func- tion in the past two years, especially the key piv- tion was last week’s PDFORRA conference in otal roles of non-commissioned officers in leader- Letterkenny, at which I met him briefly. I am sure ship and training within brigade formations. The the Minister is aware of the concerns within monitoring group has made a series of important PDFORRA at the continuing incidence of bully- recommendations concerning the ranking, selec- ing and harassment within the Defence Forces. In tion, training and reward systems for officer and the context of the response a fortnight ago to the NCO instructors in the cadet school. An immedi- original report which was published two years ate change in the training regime for cadets will ago, does the Minister agree there is an ongoing have a vital demonstration effect. problem when a quarter of all military personnel have experienced bullying and harassment, Additional information including almost 70% of the female members of It has been decided therefore that the process the Defence Forces? of introducing these changes will begin with the I do not know whether the Minister has yet 2004 cadet intake. Some of the changes will take familiarised himself with the original report, The longer to implement and will be addressed Challenge of a Workplace, which itemises a litany through the conciliation and arbitration process of serious infringements of individual rights, or the overall review of Defence Forces including some very serious incidents of rape and organisation. attempted rape which went unreported; as well as The equality steering group was established in demands for sexual favours, offensive telephone autumn 2003 and has conducted its own indepen- calls, e-mails and text messages; breaking into dent study under a Labour Court chairperson of women’s bedrooms, walking into women’s Defence Forces regulations and administrative shower areas and the display of pornographic instructions, policy and procedures. Its compre- material. I do not suggest this has not happened hensive audit examined policy and procedures in in other areas—— the light of existing civil statutory requirements such as employment equality and equal status and An Ceann Comhairle: Does the Deputy have a best civil employment practice. brief question? The Ombudsman (Defence Forces) Bill com- pleted all Stages in the Da´il in July and has now Mr. McGinley: However, at least the Defence been introduced to the Seanad. The Bill should Forces are facing up to this. Does the Minister pass all Stages before the end of October. The agree that if this is allowed to continue it will provision of a statutory ombudsman for the undermine the team spirit which is so necessary Defence Forces will provide a further significant for discipline within the Defence Forces? Will he impetus in support of the major transformation also indicate if the proposed ombudsman for the in culture and practice which has been initiated Defence Forces will be given a meaningful role in and which is now well under way. counteracting this activity within the services? 5 Priority 12 October 2004. Questions 6 Will he further outline the responsibilities of the gent in Liberia have the opportunity to avail of a 200 marshals who were announced in recent subsidised leave flight to Ireland during their tour weeks to deal with this ongoing problem? of duty in Liberia. Arrangements were made by my predecessor to allow personnel serving in Lib- Mr. O’Dea: I thank Deputy McGinley for his eria to avail of aircraft chartered for the deploy- kind words of congratulations. As to how short ment, consignment and/or repatriation of person- or long a time I will be in the Cabinet, I cannot nel, stores and equipment to and from the say. However, it is great to have reached this mission area. Access to these flights is made point and, as the former British Chancellor of the available, space permitting, to personnel who are: Exchequer, Denis Healy, said, “it is always better availing of leave; travelling to or from the mission to be a has-been than a never-was”. area on duty; being repatriated from the mission I agree with Deputy McGinley that the prob- area.