Standing Committee of Tynwald on Public Accounts Emergency Scrutiny First Report for the Session 2019-20 Returning Residents
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PP 2020/0094(2) STANDING COMMITTEE OF TYNWALD ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS EMERGENCY SCRUTINY FIRST REPORT FOR THE SESSION 2019-20 RETURNING RESIDENTS Volume 2 of 2 STANDING COMMITTEE OF TYNWALD ON PUBLIC ACCOUNTS EMERGENCY SCRUTINY FIRST REPORT FOR THE SESSION 2019-20 RETURNING RESIDENTS 3.1 There shall be a Standing Committee of the Court on Public Accounts. 3.2 Subject to paragraph 3.6, the Committee shall have – (a) a Chairman elected by Tynwald, (b) a Vice-Chairman elected by Tynwald, (c) four other Members, who shall be Chairman of each of the Policy Review Committees (ex officio) and the Chairman of the Committee on Constitutional and Legal Affairs and Justice; and a quorum of three. 3.3 Members of Tynwald shall not be eligible for membership of the Committee, if, for the time being, they hold any of the following offices: President of Tynwald, member of the Council of Ministers, member of the Treasury Department referred to in section 1(2)(b) of the Government Departments Act 1987. 3.4 The Committee shall – (a) (i) consider any papers on public expenditure and estimates presented to Tynwald as may seem fit to the Committee; (ii) examine the form of any papers on public expenditure and estimates presented to Tynwald as may seem fit to the Committee; (iii) consider any financial matter relating to a Government Department or statutory body as may seem fit to the Committee; (iv) consider such matters as the Committee may think fit in order to scrutinise the efficiency and effectiveness of the implementation of Government policy; and (v) lay an Annual Report before Tynwald at each October sitting and any other reports as the Committee may think fit. (b) be authorised to require the attendance of Ministers for the purpose of assisting the Committee in the consideration of its terms of reference. (c) be empowered to issue directions under Standing Order 5.6(3), provided that any direction so issued shall be reported to Tynwald within a year. (d) be the Accounts Committee referred to in section 3 of the Tynwald Auditor General Act 2011, with the relevant powers and responsibilities in relation to the Tynwald Auditor General; and (e) be the Tynwald Public Accounts Committee referred to in section 3 of the Tynwald Commissioner for Administration Act 2011, with the relevant powers and responsibilities in relation to the Tynwald Commissioner for Administration. 3.5 The Chairman, Vice-Chairman and any member of the Committee shall not sit when the accounts of any body of which that person is a member are being considered. 3.6 Should the need arise in relation to a particular matter, such as a conflict of interest, Tynwald may elect an alternate member for the purpose and duration of the Committee’s consideration of that matter. Subject to paragraph 3.5, a conflicted member so replaced shall continue to serve as a member of the Committee for all other purposes. The powers, privileges and immunities relating to the work of a committee of Tynwald include those conferred by the Tynwald Proceedings Act 1876, the Privileges of Tynwald (Publications) Act 1973, the Tynwald Proceedings Act 1984 and by the Standing Orders of Tynwald Court. Committee Membership The Hon J P Watterson SHK (Rushen) (Chairman) Mr R E Callister MHK (Onchan) Mrs J P Poole-Wilson MLC Mr C R Robertshaw MHK (Douglas East) Copies of this Report may be obtained from the Tynwald Library, Legislative Buildings, Finch Road, Douglas, IM1 3PW (Tel: 01624 685520) or may be consulted at www.tynwald.org.im All correspondence with regard to this Report should be addressed to the Clerk of Tynwald, Legislative Buildings, Finch Road, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 3PW. Table of Contents Volume 2 ORAL EVIDENCE .................................................................................................... 1 1ST MAY 2020 EVIDENCE OF HON. HOWARD QUAYLE MHK, CHIEF MINISTER; WILL GREENHOW, CHIEF SECRETARY; NICK BLACK, CEO DEPARTMENT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE; KATHRYN MAGSON, INTERIM CEO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL CARE; KIRSTY HEMSLEY, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF CHANGE AND REFORM, CABINET OFFICE; AND SAM MCCAULEY, HEAD OF EXTERNAL RELATIONS TEAM, CABINET OFFICE 3 WRITTEN EVIDENCE .............................................................................................25 APPENDIX 1: 30TH APRIL 2020 - EMAIL FROM CLARE BARBER MHK 27 APPENDIX 2: 29TH APRIL 2020 - EMAILS FROM SUSAN KILLEN 31 APPENDIX 3: 29TH APRIL 2020 - EMAIL FROM NICK BLACK, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, DEPARTMENT OF INFRASTRUCTURE, ATTACHING SLIDES FROM A VIRTUAL PRESENTATION TO MEMBERS MADE ON 27TH APRIL 2020 39 APPENDIX 4: 29TH APRIL 2020- EMAIL FROM KATE LORD-BRENNAN MLC 59 APPENDIX 5: 15TH TO 30TH APRIL 2020 – EMAILS BETWEEN MR SPEAKER AND CABINET OFFICE RETURNING RESIDENTS TEAM 69 APPENDIX 6: 28TH & 29TH APRIL 2020 - EMAILS BETWEEN A RESIDENT AND CABINET OFFICE RETURNING RESIDENTS TEAM 83 APPENDIX 7: 30TH APRIL 2020 – EMAIL FROM MIKE DEAN 91 APPENDIX 8: 26TH TO 30TH APRIL 2020 – EMAILS FROM A RESIDENT TO DAPHNE CAINE MHK AND CLARE BARBER MHK 127 APPENDIX 9: 30TH APRIL 2020 – EMAIL FROM TANYA AUGUST-HANSON MLC 133 SUBMISSIONS RECEIVED AFTER REPORT (VOLUME 1) LAID BEFORE TYNWALD....137 APPENDIX 10: 7TH MAY 2020 – EMAIL FROM CHIEF MINISTER TO MR AND MRS COUÉ 139 APPENDIX 11: 14TH MAY 2020 – EMAILS BETWEEN MR SPEAKER AND DR HENRIETTA EWART, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH 143 APPENDIX 12: 24TH MAY 2020 – EMAIL FROM GEOFFREY ALLEN TO H M ATTORNEY GENERAL 147 APPENDIX 13: 25TH MAY 2020 – EMAIL FROM GEOFFREY ALLEN TO TYNWALD MEMBERS: CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN GEOFFREY ALLEN AND HON. DAVID ASHFORD MHK 151 ORAL EVIDENCE 1 2 1st May 2020 Evidence of Hon. Howard Quayle MHK, Chief Minister; Will Greenhow, Chief Secretary; Nick Black, CEO Department for Infrastructure; Kathryn Magson, Interim CEO Department of Health and Social Care; Kirsty Hemsley, Interim Director of Change and Reform, Cabinet Office; and Sam McCauley, Head of External Relations Team, Cabinet Office 3 4 S T A N D I N G C O M M I T T E E O F T Y N W A L D C O U R T O F F I C I A L R E P O R T R E C O R T Y S O I K O I L B I N G V E A Y N T I N V A A L P R O C E E D I N G S D A A L T Y N PUBLIC ACCOUNTS COMMITTEE EMERGENCY SCRUTINY HANSARD Douglas, Friday, 1st May 2020 PP2020/0097 PAC-ES, No. 1/2020 All published Official Reports can be found on the Tynwald website: www.tynwald.org.im/business/hansard Published by the Office of the Clerk of Tynwald, Legislative Buildings, Finch Road, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 3PW. © High Court of Tynwald, 2020 5 STANDING COMMITTEE, FRIDAY, 1st MAY 2020 Members Present: Chairman: Hon. J P Watterson SHK Mr C R Robertshaw Mr R E Callister Mrs J P Poole-Wilson Clerk: Mrs J Corkish Assistant Clerks: Miss F Gale Mr S Wright Contents Procedural ........................................................................................................................................ 3 EVIDENCE OF Hon. Howard Quayle MHK, Chief Minister; Mr Will Greenhow, Chief Secretary; Mr Nick Black, Chief Executive, Department for Infrastructure; Mrs Kathryn Magson, Interim Chief Executive, Department of Health and Social Care; Mrs Kirsty Hemsley, Interim Director of Change and Reform, Cabinet Office; and Ms Sam McCauley, Head of External Relations Team, Cabinet Office ............................................ 3 The Committee sat in private at 12.04 p.m. ……………………………………………………………………………...20 __________________________________________________________________ 2 PAC-ES/2020 6 STANDING COMMITTEE, FRIDAY, 1st MAY 2020 Standing Committee of Tynwald on Public Accounts Emergency Scrutiny: Returning Residents The Committee met virtually at 11 a.m. Proceedings were conducted and broadcast live from the Legislative Council Chamber. [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] Procedural The Chairman (Mr Speaker): Good morning everybody and welcome to this public meeting of the Public Accounts Committee. As you know, this is the first in a series of meetings in which aspects of the response to the State of Emergency, first declared on 16th March 2020, will be examined. 5 I am Juan Watterson, Chairman of the Committee and with me are Mr Chris Robertshaw MHK, Mr Rob Callister MHK and Mrs Jane Poole-Wilson MLC. The topic today is Returning Residents. We acknowledge that this has been a challenging issue and I think that Tynwald, and certainly the Members here today, are fully supportive of having strict controls in place. But 10 there are some questions about how this control was being achieved. So we want to take this opportunity to look at where we are, why certain decisions have been made and ultimately how this decision will be handled moving forward. EVIDENCE OF Hon. Howard Quayle MHK, Chief Minister; Mr Will Greenhow, Chief Secretary; Mr Nick Black, Chief Executive, Department for Infrastructure; Mrs Kathryn Magson, Interim Chief Executive, Department of Health and Social Care; Mrs Kirsty Hemsley, Interim Director of Change and Reform, Cabinet Office; and Ms Sam McCauley, Head of External Relations Team, Cabinet Office Q1. The Chairman: Welcome to you all and we would ask that before I invite the Chief Minister to make an opening statement, if you could all just introduce yourselves. 15 Chief Secretary. Mr Greenhow: Will Greenhow, Chief Secretary. The Chairman: Mr Black. 20 Mr Black: Good morning, Nick Black, Chief Executive Officer, Department of Infrastructure. __________________________________________________________________ 3 PAC-ES/2020 7 STANDING COMMITTEE, FRIDAY, 1st MAY 2020 The Chairman: Mrs Magson. Mrs Magson: Kathryn Magson, Interim Chief Executive, Department of Health and Social 25 Care. The Chairman: Mrs Hemsley. Mrs Hemsley: Good morning. Kirsty Hemsley, Interim Director of Change Reform in the 30 Cabinet Office. The Chairman: And Ms McCauley. Ms McCauley: Sam McCauley, Head of External Relations in the Cabinet Office, but currently 35 seconded to be Project Manager of the Repatriation in the Department of Infrastructure.