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Vol. 798 Wednesday No. 317 19 June 2019 PARLIAMENTARYDEBATES (HANSARD) HOUSE OF LORDS OFFICIAL REPORT ORDEROFBUSINESS Questions Schools: Careers Advice .................................................................................................767 Extreme Poverty and Human Rights: United Nations Report.......................................769 Brexit: Border Controls ..................................................................................................771 Immigration and Asylum Applications ..........................................................................774 Breathing Space Scheme: Consultation Response Statement........................................................................................................................776 Wild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill Second Reading...............................................................................................................786 Late Payments Statement........................................................................................................................809 International Widows Day Question for Short Debate..............................................................................................816 Lords wishing to be supplied with these Daily Reports should give notice to this effect to the Printed Paper Office. 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This issue of the Official Report is also available on the Internet at https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2019-06-19 The first time a Member speaks to a new piece of parliamentary business, the following abbreviations are used to show their party affiliation: Abbreviation Party/Group CB Cross Bench Con Conservative DUP Democratic Unionist Party GP Green Party Ind Lab Independent Labour Ind LD Independent Liberal Democrat Ind SD Independent Social Democrat Ind UU Independent Ulster Unionist Lab Labour Lab Co-op Labour and Co-operative Party LD Liberal Democrat LD Ind Liberal Democrat Independent Non-afl Non-affiliated PC Plaid Cymru UKIP UK Independence Party UUP Ulster Unionist Party No party affiliation is given for Members serving the House in a formal capacity, the Lords spiritual, Members on leave of absence or Members who are otherwise disqualified from sitting in the House. © Parliamentary Copyright House of Lords 2019, this publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 767 Schools: Careers Advice [19 JUNE 2019] Schools: Careers Advice 768 House of Lords Viscount Younger of Leckie: Yes, I am, and there has been a question in the House previously on that very Wednesday 19 June 2019 point—I think from the noble Baroness, Lady Garden. It is a matter that we are looking at seriously. It is 3 pm important that each school takes careers management seriously, with the focus particularly on head teachers Prayers—read by the Lord Bishop of Leeds. in doing that. It is also important that schools do not operate on their own; they have to work with careers advisers and the hubs to ensure a co-ordinated response Schools: Careers Advice and that every pupil receives the right careers advice. Question Lord Baker of Dorking (Con): My Lords, the Baker 3.07 pm clause came into law last year. It allows apprenticeship providers,university technical colleges and other providers Asked by Baroness Pidding of technical education to go into schools and speak to 14 and 16 year-olds. This is simply not being followed. Toask Her Majesty’sGovernment what assessment Providers are being excluded because the schools fear they have made of the quality of careers advice in they may lose their pupils to them. Is it not about time schools. that the Government insisted that the law of the land be followed, so that youngsters in our schools can Viscount Younger of Leckie (Con): My Lords, there learn of all the alternative careers available to them has been good progress since the Government’s careers apart from going to university? strategy was published in 2017. Schools are using the Gatsby benchmarks to improve their careers programmes. Viscount Younger of Leckie: My noble friend is Ofsted has noted that the current picture is much more right, and that is why we recently announced an upgrade encouraging than has been the case since 2010. More from 20 to 40 hubs. The whole point is that there is a schools are benefiting from our investment. We are co-ordinated response, with careers leaders in schools funding training for 1,300 careers leaders and establishing and careers advisers, one to one and in small groups, 40 careers hubs across the country. linked to the enterprise advisers, so that there is a cluster of help for these young people. Baroness Pidding (Con): I thank the Minister for that response. Education and providing the widest Lord Storey (LD): My Lords— possible careers advice are key to opening up horizons and increasing social mobility. Network bases and Lord Brookman (Lab): My Lords— contacts from the world of work—businesses and employers—often come from informal social networks Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Con): My Lords, I think such as families and friends. This is not necessarily so it is the Lib Dems’ chance to speak. for young people from lower-income families who do not have such links. What can the Government do to Lord Storey: My Lords, the Minister may have ensure that these avenues are available to all? heard that the Education and Employers Taskforce found that more direct contact between employers and young people from an early age has a direct impact on Viscount Younger of Leckie: Activities involving their ability to make informed choices between the employers such as careers insights, mentoring, work different options and routes available. How can he see tasters and work experience are crucial to give young that that is embedded in all schools? Should we make people from all backgrounds the skills they need to money directly available to schools and colleges to succeed. The Careers & Enterprise Company was make this happen? established to work with schools, colleges and employers to link them together and to make sure that every Viscount Younger of Leckie: The emphasis is on the young person has access to inspiring encounters with Careers & Enterprise Company and the careers service the world of work, including work experience and to take this forward, which indeed they are doing. We other employer-based activities. The career hubs that I must make sure that employers have the opportunity mentioned focus on supporting schools and colleges to go into schools and meet pupils one to one. That is in areas most in need of targeted support. happening: there are some very good statistics,particularly on the back of the pilots we have done up in the Lord Young of Norwood Green (Lab): My Lords, I north-east, to show that we are making progress. declare an interest as an apprenticeship ambassador. I welcome what the Minister said, but we are still not where Lord Aberdare (CB): My Lords, one of the Gatsby we should be. Is he aware that employers still complain benchmarks of quality in careers education states that about some schools denying access to pupils to talk students should have opportunities for personal, face- about apprenticeships and other career opportunities, to-face guidance interviews with fully qualified careers despite the Baker amendment and previous legislation? professionals. What are the Government doing to Those schools see populating their sixth forms as their tackle the known shortage of such skilled professionals priority. Is he aware of the number of schools still not and the lack of funding available to schools to employ meeting their obligations in providing full career-path them? Will they consider offering training bursaries explanations to their pupils? for this purpose, for example? 769 Schools: Careers Advice[LORDS] Poverty and Human Rights: UN Report 770 Viscount Younger of Leckie: Effective personal guidance the Government listened to the poor and their charities can make a significant contribution to social mobility and restored a social safety net worthy of the UK in and the economic health of the nation, so the point the 21st century? the noble Lord has made is very important. The eighth of the Gatsby benchmarks requires all young people Baroness Buscombe: My Lords, nobody wants to to have a careers interview by the age of 16 and the see poverty rising and we treat the issues raised by the opportunity for a further interview by the age of 18. special rapporteur seriously. However, we seriously Weare investing £2.5 million to support the development regret the inflammatory and overtly political tone of of new,cost-effective models to deliver personal guidance. his report and strongly refute the suggestion that we have failed to listen to stakeholders. As set out in our Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall (Lab): My Lords— published response, we have taken action in a number Lord Brookman: My Lords— of areas, including the recently announced reduction in the maximum duration for a single sanction from Lord Taylor of Holbeach: My Lords, the noble three years to six months. Lord has risen before. Baroness Bryan of Partick (Lab):