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Third Session- Thirty-Seventh Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authorityof The Honourable George Hickes Speaker Vol. LII No. 57 - 1:30 p.m., Thesday, July 2, 2002 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Seventh Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation AGLUGUB, Cris The Maples N.D.P. ALLAN, Nancy St. Vital N.D.P. ASHTON, Steve, Hon. Thompson N.D.P. ASPER, Linda Riel N.D.P. BARRETI,Becky, Hon. Inkster N.D.P. CALDWELL, Drew, Hon. Brandon East N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave, Hon. Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary, Hon. Concordia N.D.P. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charles wood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry Lakeside P.C. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FRIESEN, Jean, Hon. Wolseley N.D.P. GERRARD, Jon, Hon. River Heights Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold Minnedosa P.C. HA WRANIK, Gerald Lac du Bonnet P.C. HEL WER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KORZENIOWSKJ, Bonnie St. James N.D.P. LATHLIN, Oscar, Hon. The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. LEMIEUX, Ron, Hon. La Verendrye N.D.P. LOEWEN, John Fort Whyte P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord, Hon. St. Johns N.D.P. MAGUIRE, Larry Arthur-Virden P.C. MALOWAY,Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McGIFFORD, Diane, Hon. Lord Roberts N.D.P. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn,Hon. Minto N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie River East P.C. MURRAY, Stuart Kirkfield Park P.C. NEVAKSHONOFF, Tom Interlake N.D.P. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PENNER, Jim Steinbach P.C. PITURA, Frank Morris P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack Southdale P.C. ROBINSON, Eric, Hon. Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Cam1an P.C. RONDEAU, Jim Assiniboia N.D.P. SALE, Tim, Hon. Fort Rouge N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Wellington N.D.P. SCHELLENBERG, Harry Ross mere N.D.P. SCHULER, Ron Springfield P.C. SELINGER, Greg, Hon. St. Boniface N.D.P. SMITH, Joy Fort Garry P.C. SMITH, Scott, Hon. Brandon West N.D.P. STEFANSON, Heather Tuxedo P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin-Roblin N.D.P. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann, Hon. Swan River N.D.P. 2971 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Tuesday, July 2, 2002 The House met at 1:30 p.m. THAT this decision was not preceded by adequate public consultation as outlined in sec PRAYERS tion 7 of The Public Schools Act; and ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS THAT this decision would result in signi ficant hardships for the students in both Trans PRESENTING PETITIONS cona and Springfield that would affect the quality of their education; and Transcona-Springfield School Division THAT the proposal by the Minister of Edu Mr. Ron Schuler (Springfield): Mr. Speaker, I cation on February 12, 2002, neither alleviates beg to present the petition of Diane Walker, nor remedies these hardships; and Tracey Hawrysh, Vema Arnold and others pray ing that the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba THAT this decision results in an increased request the Minister of Education (Mr. Caldwell) financial burden on the taxpayers of both the to reverse the decision to split the Transcona Transcona-Springfield School Division and the Springfield School Division and allow it to province of Manitoba; and remain as a whole or to consider immediately convening the Board of Reference to decide the THAT on March 13, 2002, the number of matter. resident electors required by The Public Schools Act requested the Minister of Education to con READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS vene a Board of Reference to decide the matter. Transcona-SpringfieldSchool Division WHEREFORE YOUR PETITIONERS HUMBLY PRAY THAT the Legislative Assem Mr. Speaker: The honourable Member for bly request the Minister of Education to reverse Springfield (Mr. Schuler), I have reviewed the the decision to split the Transcona-Springfield petition and it complies with the rules and School Division and allow it to remain as a practices of the House. Is it the will of the House whole or to consider immediately convening the to have the petition read? Board of Reference to decide the matter. Some Honourable Members: Agreed. PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES Mr. Speaker: The Clerk please read. Standing Committee on Law Amendments Fifth Report Madam Clerk (Patricia Chaychuk): The peti tion of the undersigned citizens of the province Mr. Doug Martindale (Chairperson): Mr. of Manitoba humbly sheweth Speaker, I beg to present the Fifth Report of the Committee on Law Amendments. THAT on November 8, 2001, the Minister of Education (Mr. Caldwell) announced a split in An Honourable Member: Dispense. the Transcona-Springfield School Division but despite repeated requests has been unable to Mr. Speaker: Dispense. identify any benefits of this decision to the students and taxpayers of said school division; Your Standing Committee on Law Amendments and presents the followingas its Fifth Report. 2972 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA July 2, 2002 Meetings: Malcolm Jolly, Brandon School Division No. 40 James Durston, Dauphin-Ochre School Area Your committee met on the following occasions: No. I Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 6.:30 p.m. Bobbi-Lynn Geekie, Birdtail River Teachers' Wednesday, June 26, 2002, at 6:30p.m. Association Peter Wohlgemut, Rhineland Teachers' Both meetings were held in Room 255 of the Association Legislative Building. Craig Blagden, Prairie Rose Teachers' Association Matters Under Consideration: Andrew Peters, Private Citizen Lauren Andrushko, Private Citizen Bill 14-The Public Schools Modernization Act Greg Andrushko, Private Citizen (Public Schools Act Amended)!Loi sur Ia Hilda Froese, Garden Valley School Division modernisation des ecoles publiques (modi Paul Wiebe, Private Citizen fication de Ia Loi sur les ecoles publiques) Gladys Hayward Williams, Private Citizen Diane Duma, Manitoba Association of Parent Membership Resignations I Elections: Councils Karen Carey, Springfield Schools Parent At the June 25, 2002, meeting, your committee Council elected Ms . Korzeniowskias Vice-Chairp erson. Peter Williams, Private Citizen Maja Kathan, Ecole Dugald School At the June 26, 2002, meeting, your committee Robin Glowacki, Private Citizen elected Mr. Rondeau as Vice-Chairperson. Layna Penner, Private Citizen Doraine Wa chniak, Private Citizen Substitutions received prior to commencement of Diana Risbey, Private Citizen the meeting held on June 2 5, 2002: Norah Bailey, Agassiz Teachers' Association Han. Mr. Caldwellfor Mr. Aglugub John Friesen, Private Citizen Ms. Allan for Mr. Dewar Maria Kantyluk,Private Citizen Han. Ms. Barrett for Han. Ms . Friesen Linda Archer and Caroline Duhamel, Manitoba Mr. Struthers for Mr. Nevakshonojf Association of School Trustees Ron. Mr. Smith (Brandon West) for Mr. Terry Egan and Sandra Oakley, CUPE Sshellenberg Ma nitoba Ms. Korzeniowski for Ron. Mr. Mackintosh Karen Velthuys, Craig Stahlke, Mr. Gil/eshammer for Mr. Hawranik and John Beaumont, Fort GarrySchool Division Mr. Tweed for Mr. Laurendeau Dennis Wi shanski and Elizabeth Kozak, St. Mr. Loewen for Mr. Schuler Ja mes Assiniboia SchoolDivision Substitutions received prior to commencement of Christopher Saunders, Sp ringfield Parent the meeting held on June 26, 2002: Council Mr. Jennissen for Ms. Allan Otto Mehl, Private Citizen Mr. Nevakshonojffor Ms . Korzeniowski Candace Daher, Private Citizen Mr. Rondeau for Han. Mr. Smith (Brandon Gloria James, Private Citizen West) Brian Ardern, Manitoba Teachers Society Mr. Laurendeau for Mr. Loewen Kristine Barr and David Bell, Winnipeg School Mr. Cummings for Mr. Tweed Division No. 1 Bob Land, Private Citizen Public Presentations: Anita Chapman, Louis Riel School Division Your committee heard 39 presentations on Bill Murray Grafton, Louis Riel Teachers' 14, The Public Schools Modernization Act Association (Public Schools Act Amended)/Loi sur Ia Roland Stankevicius, River East Teachers' modernisation des ecoles publiques (modifi Association cation de Ia Loi sur les ecoles publiques) from Ma rijka Spytkowsky, Transcona-Sp ringfield the following individuals and organizations: Teachers' Association Ruth Ann Furgala, Evergreen School Division Virginia Larsson, Private Citizen July 2, 2002 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2973 Written Su bmissions: scolaire de Red River Valley" wherever it occurs and substituting "Division scolaire Vallee de Ia Your committee received eight written sub Riviere-Rouge". missions on Bill 14, The Public Schools Modernization Act (Public Schools Act Amend THAT the French version of section 24(2) of the ed)/Loi sur Ia modernisation des ecoles Bill be amended by striking out "Division publiques (modification de Ia Loi sur les ecoles scolaire de Red River Valley" and substituting publiques) from the following individuals and "Division scolaire Vallee de Ia Riviere-Rouge". organizations: Mr. Martindale: I move, seconded by the Mo nica Ptak, Private Citizen honourable Member for Rossmere (Mr. Schell John Ehinger, Private Citizen enberg), that the report of the committee be Karen Lalonde, Private Citizen received. Kathy Andersson, Private Citizen Susan Choquette, Private Citizen Motion agreed to. Glen Anderson, Private Citizen Zeeba Loxley, Community Education and * (13:35) Development Association John Shebniski, Duck Mountain SchoolDivision INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Bills Considered and Reported: Biii41-The Manitoba Hydro Amendment Act Bill 14 - The Public Schools Modernization Act (Public Schools Act Amended) Hon. Greg Selinger (Minister charged with the administration of The Manitoba Hydro Your committee agreed to report this bill with Act): Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the the following amendments. Minister of Transportation and Government Ser vices (Mr. Ashton), that leave be given to THA T the proposed section 12.2, as set out in introduce Bill 41, The Manitoba Hydro Amend section 10 of the Bill, be renumbered as sub ment Act; Loi modifiant Ia Loi sur !'Hydro section 12. 2(1) and that the following be added Manitoba, and that the same be now received as subsection 12.2(2): and read a firsttime.