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1 U.S. DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE + + + + + NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION (NOAA) HYDROGRAPHIC SERVICES REVIEW PANEL + + + + + PUBLIC MEETING + + + + + TUESDAY AUGUST 27, 2019 + + + + + The Hydrographic Services Review Panel met at the Hotel Monteleone, 214 Royal Street, New Orleans, Louisiana, at 9:00 a.m., Ed Saade, Chair, presiding. HSRP MEMBERS PRESENT: EDWARD J. SAADE, HSRP Chair JULIE THOMAS, HSRP Vice Chair CAPTAIN ANUJ CHOPRA SEAN M. DUFFY, SR. KIM HALL DEANNE HARGRAVE EDWARD J. KELLY CAPTAIN ANN KINNER DR. DAVID MAUNE CAPTAIN ANNE MCINTYRE CAPTAIN (ret. USCG) ED PAGE GARY THOMPSON Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 2 NON-VOTING HSRP MEMBERS: JULIANA BLACKWELL, Director, National Geodetic Survey, NOS RICH EDWING, Director, Center for Operational Oceanographic Products and Services, NOS NOAA LEADERSHIP PRESENT: REAR ADMIRAL TIM GALLAUDET, Ph.D. (ret. USN), Assistant Secretary of Commerce for Oceans and Atmosphere and Deputy NOAA Administrator NICOLE LEBOEUF, Acting Assistant Administrator, NOS REAR ADMIRAL SHEP SMITH, HSRP Designated Federal Official; Acting Deputy Assistant Administrator, National Ocean Service, National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration; Director, Office of Coast Survey, NOS CAPTAIN ELIZABETH KRETOVIC, Acting Director, Office of Coast Survey, NOS NOAA STAFF PRESENT: GLENN BOLEDOVICH, Policy Director, NOS PCAD CAPTAIN RICK BRENNAN, Chief, Hydrographic Surveys Division, OCS, NOS VIRGINIA DENTLER, Center for Operational Oceanographic Products and Services JOHN G.W. KELLEY, PhD, Physical Scientist, Coastal Marine Modeling Branch, Coast Survey Development Laboratory, OCS LYNNE MERSFELDER-LEWIS, HSRP Coordinator TIM OSBORN, Navigation Manager, OCS, NOS STEPHEN WHITE, Remote Sensing Division, NGS, NOS CRAIG WINN, Portfolio Manager for HD Mapping, Marine Chart Division, OCS, NOS DARREN WRIGHT, National Marine Program Leader, Marine, Tropical and Tsunami Services Branch, National Weather Service Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 3 ALSO PRESENT: PAUL AUCOIN, Executive Director, Port of South Louisiana CAPTAIN MICHAEL BOPP, President, Crescent River Pilots Association BRANDY D. CHRISTIAN, President and CEO of the Port of New Orleans; CEO, New Orleans Public Railroad Belt Corp. CAPTAIN STEPHEN HATHORN, President, New Orleans Baton Rouge Steamship Pilots Association (NOBRA) MATT LAGARDE, Assistant Vice President, Health, Safety, Security, and Environment, Ingram Barge Company CAPTAIN KRISTI M. LUTTRELL, Commander, Sector New Orleans, 8th U.S. Coast Guard District CAPTAIN MICHAEL MILLER, President, Associated Branch (Bar) Pilots COLONEL STEPHEN MURPHY, Commander, New Orleans District, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR WILLIAM H. NUNGESSER, Louisiana DR. JACKIE S. PETTWAY, Chief, Navigation Division, Coastal and Hydraulics Laboratory, U.S. Army Engineer and Research Development (ERDC), U.S. Army Corps of Engineers MIKE STEENHOEK, Executive Director, Soy Transportation Coalition CLAIRE TROKEY, Legislative Director, Congressman Steve Scalise R-Louisiana) MARK WINGATE, PE, Deputy District Engineer for Programs and Project Management, Executive Office, New Orleans District, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 4 CONTENTS Rear Admiral Shepard M. Smith. 6 HSRP Member Introduction . .14 Nicole LeBoeuf . .20 Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet . .27 Lieutenant Governor William H. Nungesser . .36 Captain Kristi M. Luttrell . .42 Colonel Stephen Murphy . .52 Brandy D. Christian. .60 Claire Trokey. .74 Precision Navigation Overview and Implications for the Mississippi River . .81 Partnerships for the Future: The Mission of Navigation Services: Data, Products and Services. 153 Public Comment . 228 Challenges, Concerns and Risks for the Navigation Services Portfolio. 239 Office of Coast Survey . 240 CO-OPS . 248 National Geodetic Survey . 273 VDatum: Current and Future Directions. 292 HSRP Working Group Discussions . 316 Recap and Day 1 Wrap-Up. 342 Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 5 1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S 2 9:01 a.m. 3 CHAIR SAADE: Okay. We're going to 4 call this meeting to order for the HSRP here in 5 beautiful New Orleans. My name's Ed Saade. I am 6 the current chair of the HSRP and my co-chair is 7 Julie Thomas over here. We're going to get 8 everyone introduced at some point. It looks like 9 a really good crowd of attendance from the 10 stakeholders, so that's great to see. 11 So I'm Ed Saade, the HSRP chair. I'm 12 happy to get to welcome you to New Orleans. The 13 stakeholder turnout is excellent obviously and 14 thanks for coming. I know some of the HSRP 15 members have offices in the region. 16 We did a little show of hands this 17 morning and virtually everybody on the HSRP 18 that's not a government member has an office or a 19 lot of staff here in Louisiana and in New 20 Orleans. So it's real meaningful to all of us 21 that we're here and the connections are really 22 close. Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 6 1 In fact, Rick Brennan and Admiral 2 Smith actually have a current contract running 3 right now on the survey backlog in the 4 Mississippi River we're going to hear about. So 5 there's a lot of activity going on. The next 6 three days we have an amazing lineup from local 7 and regional experts, so we are looking forward 8 to excellent sessions and discussions as our 9 output -- we'll have time to edit and get 10 consensus on three issue papers, as well as 11 comments from the HSRP to the Office of Coast 12 Survey on their draft strategic plan, and a 13 recommendation letter to the NOAA Administrator. 14 Nearly all the materials are on the 15 HSRP New Orleans web page. So with that, I'm 16 going to hand over the discussion to Rear Admiral 17 Shep Smith. He's the Acting Deputy Assistant 18 Administrator, National Ocean Service, National 19 Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. He's the 20 director in the Office of Coast Survey, NOS. 21 RDML SMITH: Thanks, Ed. Thank you 22 for your continued leadership of this important Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 7 1 Panel. So I'm Shep Smith. I'm the Designated 2 Federal Official of this Panel as well, and I'm 3 looking forward to this meeting this week. A few 4 housekeeping details. If you've not already 5 signed up to make a comment or signed into the 6 meeting, the sign-up sheets for both are coming 7 around. 8 Emergency exits are all around the 9 room. The preferred is out to the -- out into 10 the hall and left to the parking garage. 11 Bathrooms are across the hall. So I'm coming to 12 this meeting straight off of a week on the 13 Mississippi River Commission, where I had the 14 honor of seeing many of the participants here 15 today in the context of the Mississippi River. 16 So for those of you, I do want to just 17 say a few words about the sort of confluence of 18 the river and the sea here in New Orleans, 19 because it's a really unique -- this is a unique 20 meeting in a unique place. 21 So the Mississippi River carries 41 22 percent of the drains, 41 percent of the Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 8 1 continental United States, all in a huge system 2 that all ends, goes right by here. There's a 3 flood control and navigation project that started 4 right after the 1927 flood. That flood knocked 5 the U.S. GDP down by 25 percent in one year. So 6 the stakes here are really high for the 7 management of this river. 8 And at the same time since then and 9 then, the economic growth and industry along this 10 river are crucial to the economy of the United 11 States and the region, and our place in the world 12 through our trading relationships. So the stakes 13 are even higher today than they were in 1927. 14 And all of the infrastructure 15 necessary for both the seagoing portion and the 16 land, the inland portion all come together in 17 this stretch of river. So the participants here 18 in this meeting sort of represent both halves of 19 that. For the Panel, which is mostly a very 20 coastal-oriented Panel, I'm thrilled to give them 21 some insight through the course of this week into 22 the river, and I think it's going to be a really Neal R. Gross and Co., Inc. (202) 234-4433 Washington DC www.nealrgross.com 9 1 interesting meeting. 2 A lot of the same topics that we've 3 been stressing with precision navigation and sea 4 level rise, subsidence, all have some of the very 5 thorniest and most important examples right here 6 in this region, and we will be, you know, we'll 7 be discussing those as well over the course of 8 the week. 9 So we have a really great session this 10 morning on precision navigation, this afternoon 11 on stakeholder priorities, and I hope that as 12 many of you can stay for those as possible. A 13 couple of key points for navigation services 14 including unmanned systems and subsidence, sea 15 level rise, coastal resilience later in the week. 16 So before we get started, I'd like to 17 acknowledge the following individuals who have 18 made time to speak or attend the meeting.