LOK SABHA DEBATES ELEVENTH SERIES (Vol. III.No. 6) JULY, 17, 1996 SECOND SESSION

ELEVENTH LOK SABHA

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT NEW DELHI CONTENTS [Eleventh Series, Vol. Ill Second Session l996/19 18 (Saka)] No. 6,Wednesday, July 17, 1996/Asadha 26, 19 18 (Saka)

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS : 'Starred Questions Nos. 102-104 WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS : Starred Questions Nos. 101 and 105-120 Unstarred Questions Nos. 804-902 PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 (i) Need to reopen Farenda Ganesh Sugar Mill in Maharajganj district, U.P. Shri Pankaj Chowdhary (ii) Need for lifting of ban on setting up of industries in Dahanu Taluka district Thane, Maharashtra Shri Chintaman Wanaga (iii) Need to open heavy industry in Rajasthan Shri Bheru Lal Meena (iv) Need to abolish existing contractual system of recruiting scientists in Council of Scientific and Industrial Research Shri S.D. N.R. Wadiyar (v) Need lor early clearance of the proposal of Karnataka Government for construction of 'Yatrika' at Sogalu in Belgaum district Shri Shivananda H. Koujalgi (vi) Need to frame guidlines for laying the alignment route of fences alongwith Indo- Bangladesh border to minimise lossed damages to the affected people Shri Chitta Basu (vii) Need to release the remaining fifty per cent grnat to the minority school in Kerala Shri E. Ahamed (viii) Need to issue No Objection Certificate for providing civic amenities to slum dwellers on land belonging to Central Government in Mumbai Shri Ram Naik STATUTORY RESOLUTION RE: DISAPPROVAL OF THE SUPREME COURT AND HlGH COURT JUDGES (CONDITION OF SERVICE) AMENDMENT THIRD ORDINANCE, 1996 AND THE SUPREME COURT AND HlGH COURT JUDGES (CONDITIONS OF SERIVCE) AMENDMENT BILL Motion to consider Shri Satya Pal Jain Shri P.R. Dasmunsi Shri C. Narayana Swamy Shr~Balai Chandra Ray Shri Suresh Prabhu Shri George Fernandes Shri Pramothes Mukherjee Shri Girdhari Lal Bhargava The Sign + marked above the name of a Member indlccrtes that the question vves actually asked on the noor of the H- by that Member. STATEMENT BY MINISTER Incidents of Death of Pilgrims at Ujjain and I'ardwar Shri Mohd. Maqbool Oar DISCUSSION UNDER RULE 193 Flood Situation and Natural Calamities in different Parts of the Country Prof. Prem Singh Chandumajra Shri V. Dhananjaya Kumar Shri Nurul Islam Shri V.V. Raghavan Shri Uddhab Barman Shri Suresh Prabhu Shri Bhakta Charan Das Shri Ganga Charan Rajput Shri V.M. Sudheeran Prot. Jitendra Nath Das Dr. Jayanta Rongpi Shri Rajiv Pratap Rudy Dr. T. Subbarami Reddy Shri Anil Kumar Yadav Dr. Arun Kumar Sarma Shri N.K. Premachandran Shri Girdhari Lal Bhargava Shri Kalpnath Rai Shri Ramesh Chennithala Shri Ram Kripal Yadav Shri T. Govindan Shri Ramashray Prasad Singh Shri Prabhu Dayal Katheria Shri Anant Gangaram Geete LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA is not present? (Int#nuptions) Is Shri Parasram Bhardwaj present?... (Interruptions) Wednesday, July 17, 1996/Asadha 26, [English] 1918 (Saka) SHRl SANAT MEHTA : Sir, where is the hon. (The Lok Sabha met at 4 Eleven of the Clock) Minister? You have called the name of Shri Shantilal Patel. But who is answering the question? [MR. DEPUTYSPEAKER in the Chalr] . . . (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Where is the hon. Minister? [Translation] (Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Question No. 101, Shri Parasram Bhardwaj is not present. SHRl PRAMOD MAHAJAN : Sir, I request you to adjourn the House till the hon. Minister comes here SHRl KRISHAN LAL SHARMA (Outer Delhi) :Today ...(Interruptions). Where is the hon. is Prime Minister's day and he is not present in the House. Please give some information about [Translation] him ...(lnterruptions). He has to come only one day. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Any of you may please reply. [English] I, SHRl PRAMOD MAHAJAN (Mumbai North East) : [English] Today is the Prime Minister's day. He must be present SHRl PRAMOD MAHAJAN : Sir, the Prime Minister here, Where is the Prime Minister? ...(Interruptions) is absent and the Minister concerned is also THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI RAM VlLAS absent...(Interruptions) PASWAN) : He is coming. Why are you worried? MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please sit down. I am on my legs. [Transla tion] (lnterrupiotns) It seems that you have very much affection for the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please sit down first. hon. Prime Minister ...(lnterruptions) (Interruptions) [English] [Translation] MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Question No. 101. Shri THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Parasram Bhardwaj is absent. POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY (Interruptions) OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : I beg your pardon for coming , MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Question No. 102. Shri late. Shantilal Parostamdas Patel. (Interruptions) [English] SHRl SHANTILAL PARSOTAMDAS PATEL (Godhra): MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The Minister has expressed his regrets. That is all. Question No. 102 ...(lnterruptions) SHRl PRAMOD MAHAJAN : He must read the reply. SHRl SANAT MEHTA (Surendra Nagar) : Sir, who is replying?. . .(Interruptions) ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): [Translation] Sil, \ have to answer the lirst Question, i.e. Question No101 ...(Interruptions) Agreements with Entrepreneurs MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER . But the Member is not '102. SHRl SHANTILAL PARSOTAMDAS PATEL : present Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to Stale (Interruptions) (a) the number of agreements made by the Government with privavte entrepreneurs in power sector [Translat~on] in the country during the Eighth Five Year Plan perlod: and MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The I ember who asked the question is not present ...(lnterruptions). He wants to (b) the power projects undertaken and completed know whether the Member who asked question No. 101 in Gujarat during the perlod? J Oral Answers JULY 17, 1996 ON/ Answers 4

[English] DR, S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Jegurupadu Power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Project in Andhra Pradesh Is with a capaclty of 216 MW POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY and promoted by GVK; Godavari Power Project is also OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. In Andhra Pradesh with a capaclty of 208 MW, promoted S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). A Statement Is by Spectrum Technology; Dabhol Is a Maharashtra with iald on the Table of the House. a capaclty of 715 MW, by Enron; Baspa HEP Is in Hlmachal Pradesh with a capaclty of 300 MW, by JP ' Industries; Hazlra in Gujarat wlth a capaclty of 515 MW, STATEMENT by Essar; Paguthan Is also in Gujarat wlth a capacity of (a) From the time of the formulation of the private 655 MW, by Torrent; Maheshwar HEP is in MP wlth a power policy of the Government of lndia in 1991, upto capacity of 400 MW, by S. Kumars; Tawa HEP is also 18th February, 1995, State Governments entered Into In MP wlth a capacity of 12 MW, by HEG; Jojobera Is Memoranda of Understanding wlth, or issued Letters of in Blhar wlth a capaclty of 200 MW by Jamshedpur intent to, private entrepreneurs for settlng up power Power Company;. - generating stations. As on date, Government of lndia Is GIPCL, Baroda In Gujarat with a capaclty of 160 monltoring 94 projects, costing more than Rs.100 crores each, that are proposed to be set up through this route. MW; Shivpur HEP in Karnataka wlth a capaclty of 18 Power projects costing loss than Rs. 100 crores each MW by Bhoruka Power Company, Maniyar HEP In Kerala which do not require the approval of the Central with 8 of 12 MW by Carborundum Universal; Electricity Authorlty (CEA) are monltored by the State Adamtilla In a Of MW by DLF and Governments. Further, according to information Bansakandi Is also In Assam with a capacity of l5.5 available, as on date, 23 private entrepreneurs have MW by DLFQSoo the total hlawatt Comes to 3435. signed power purchase agrkments with state Eiectrlclty These are the Power Projects that are under Boards for sale of power generated by thelr stations. consideratlon. (b) in Gujarat, the 515 MW comblned cycle power It la a project-wise statement. plant at Hazlra has been undertaken and completed by Mls. Essar Power Limited in the prlvate sector. SHRl SANAT MEHTA : Has the Government any benchmark tor the cost of production per megawatt and [Translation] cost per unit? Or is it to be agreed by the States? I SHRI SHANTILAL PARSOTAMDAS PATEL : Mr. would like to know about It. Deputy Speaker, Sir, there Is acute shortage of electricity DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : So far as power in Gujarat as well as in many other parts of the country. projects are concerned, the cost is roughly Rs. 4 crore Even new industries and farmers do not get proper for one megawatt. it depends on the State to complete supply of electricity. I, through you, would like to know It. The State has to complete the negotiations about the form the Union Government as to how many companies project. They are to submit It to the CEA wlth PPA. which had made agreement in Eighth Five Year Plan, executed the work? I would also like to know the extent SHRl SANAT MEHTA : Regarding Gujarat, Is It a of work executed by these companies in every State fact that allegations had been made that originally the and specially in Gujarat. Essar company had indicated very low cost and afterwards the cost was increased? Is the Government [English] aware of it? DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Mr. Deputy Speaker, DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : After seeing all the Sir, six out of the 11 power projects are presently under reports from the State Governments, the CEA has bidding. cleared the Gujarat-Essar Company. First, it started with Shall I read them out one by one or is It enough if 200 MW. Later It became 250 MW. The techno-economlc I confine only to the number of projects? ...(Interruptions) clearance was given by the CEA. Now, It is pending In the Hlgh Court. I think, it Is sub judice and we shall not SHRl SANAT MEHTA : Sir, the first questlon was discuss it In Parilament. this: How many power projects have been completed by now and what are the pending projects, State-wise? [Translation] DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Essar Power Project SHRl ANANT GANGARAM GEETE : Mr. Deputy was completed in Gujarat. They have started and Speaker, Slr, I, through you, would llke to know trom the commlssioned. This the only project which Is completed. hon. Minister whether the Dabhol Project In Maharashtra The remaining projects are under bldding. The rest few is in progress or not and what Is the Union Government's are under the consideration of the State Government. role In this regard? Sir shall I lay the list of those projects under consideration on the Table of the House? (English] (Interruptions) ... DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : The Dabhol Project SHRI SANAT MEHTA : No. in Mahara8htra has been cleared by the Cablnet, 5 Oral Answers ASADHA 26, lQl8 (Saka) Oral Answrrs 6

[Transla tion] [Transla tlon] SHRl ANANT GANGARAM GEETE : Mr. Deputy SHRl DATTA MEGHE : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Speaker, Slr, I have asked the hon. Minister whether the hon. Mlnister has just stated that we have started the work Is in progress or not? Dabhol Project but the hon. Chlef Mlnister had stated e that he had cleared Nlppon Denro whlch was to be [English] started In Vadodra under Vldarbha In, Maharashtra. I DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : It is about to be would llke to know the current posltlon of Nlppon Denro's commissioned. 500 megawat proposal to be built in Vadodra? Secondly, a very good quality of coal Is found In Vidarbha coal [Transla tion] mines which can be used by establlshlng a project SHRl BRIJ BHUSHAN TlWARl : Mr. Deputy Speaker, there. Is there any other project to be awarded to coal Slr, Uttar Pradesh, at present is facing acute shortage mine? of electricity and the major reason tor It is that though the Governmeqt of UP has signed the MOU on all the [English] projects despite that the Central Electricity authority DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Nippon Denro lspat has not cleared these projects. I, through you, would Limited Is in Bhadrawati, Maharashtra. I think we have like to know from the hon. Minister as to how much to receive the PPA from the State Government; It is not more time wlll Central Electricity Authorlty take in pending with the Central Government. We are to receive clearing all these projects? the PPA; they have not sent the PPA. So, It is only with DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Sir, generally, the the State Government now. agreement with the CEA is made within four months. [Transla tion] The detailed project report takes nearly three to four years. I have recently convened a meeting with the SHRl DATTA MEGHE : Where It is pending. The ".. CEA. The hon. Minister of Power has given clear State Government has sent It to you. instructions to minimise the period. [English] SHRl JAG MOHAN : Sir, there are seven Central Projects-Rihand-ll, Unchahar-ll, Dulhasti, Faridabad, DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : But, Slr, we have not Uri, Barsigsar and Jamuna Nagar - from which Delhl received the PPA. was to get 400 MW as its share. In spite of the fact that so many years have passed, not a single project has [Transla tion] come through with the result Delhi had not been able SHRI GEORGE FERNANDES : Mr. Deputy Speaker, to draw even one MW. All the power breakdowns, which Sir, I would llke the hon. Prlme Minister to give reply to are now taking place, are largely due to the total my question. I would like to state that almost half of the Ineffectiveness of the Central Government to get Its total amount of Rs.4387 crow whlch was to be incurred projects through. What have you to klndly say about It? on Congentrlcs Project of Karnataka i.e. Rs. 2090 crore is belng spent on such works whlch have no direct . I, DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : In Delhi, there is no case pending at the CEA level. I think, the Government relation wlth that project. of Delhi will look after it. [English] SHRl JAG MOHAN : I have given you the name of the seven projects ...(lnterruptlons) If you like, I can read We agree that insurance and freight come to Rs.139 them over agaln. Ail these projects had to be done by crore, turnkey fee and expenses come to Rs.214 crore, the Central Government. The State Government of Delhl pre-operational expenses to Rs.66 crore, consultancy has nothing to do with it. Delhl had only to get 400 MW claims Rs.124 crore, finance expenses - I do not know as its share after paylng the price for It. None of these what they are - come to Rs.166 crore, legal and projects has been executed. accounting expenses come to Rs.42 crore, sponsoring and development expenses come to Rs.51 crow I do The result is that the people of Delhi, the capital, not know the meaning of this as to who Is sponsoring are put to lot of Ynconvenience and sufference; lot of etc. - contingency comes to Rs. 167 crore and interest Industries are sufferering losses due to the frequent durlng construction Is Rs.8gO crore. breakdown. What h&e you to say about that? My polnt Is, the projects have to be planned and executed by [Translatlon) you and belhi has to got only a share as the other States have to get thelr share. Over all 48% 01 the amount Is bolng spent on such work. 22,000 crore rupee8 are belng spent on .. DR. S. VENUQOPALACHARI : Sir, what the hon. mechanical electrical work, clvii works, road8 and ,' Member Is saying Is, Delhl Is not getting enough from intrasttucturo and 48 per cent h being 8pent on rest ot the central datlon8. Eighty per cent ol the DESU power the hems many ot whlch are meaning\ws. I8 supplled by the Central Eioctrklty Authorlty. Regarding the projects rpeclally mentioned by the hon. Member, I would llke to know trom tho Prlme Mlnkter the I will look Into all tho project8 and let him know about detalls of the amount to be spent under each head them. while formulating the plan. If complrte Information is 7 Oral Answers JULY 17, 19% Orrl Answers 8

available wlth him, what are the details thereof. You purchase agreement and Its other aspects are should clarify the same in the House. People in concerned, the State Government has to finally take a Karnataka and throughout the country are questionlng decision. The Central Electricity Authority will then about environment clearance. The company personnel examine the whole Issue and only then will It come in Bangalore are saying something else and you people before the Central Government. At this stage I am not in have entirely different version. What I am asking for is a position to say as to what are the Items that they have that the Prime Minister should take this House into agreed to the ultimately what the Central Government confidence and tell us very clearly as to where this is going to agree while glvlng the counter guarantee matter stands ...(lnterruptions) agreement. At this stage, I cannot spell out the details. We would like that Prime Minister himself should [Translation] give the reply. Not because this matter is related to Karnataka but because he has got the complete MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : It is an important question information in this regard. Though he is present here, and it has already taken twenty minutes. Therefore, I others are replying. am allowing only one more supplementary. Later on, you may take it up for half-an-hour discussion. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER :You expressed your views. It is not binding on the Prime Minister to reply to it. [English] Though if he desires to do so, I have no objection SHRI. H.D. DEVE GOWDA : May I make a whatsoever. submission, Sir? I myself appeal to the Chair that so far [English] as the power sector and the power policy are concerned, this is an important question. In the last five years we DR. S VENUGOPALACHARI : Mr. Deputy Speaker, have not been able to produce even a single megawatl Sir, Shr~Fernandes has said that the cost of the of power. This is the situation that we are facing. My Cogentrix project is about Rs.2100 crore. It is not true. colleague Minister has said that about 14 projects have So far as the other part of the question is concerned, been cleared in various States. He has given the break. he is a very senior Member. He knows it. I request the up; in Andhra Pradesh, two projects have been cleared. hon. Member to put a separate question ...(Interruptions) one project each has been cleared in Maharashtra and SHRl GEORGE FERNANDES : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Himachal Pradesh and two projects have been cleared Sir. I seek your protection. ...(Interruptions) The question in Gujarat ...(Interruptions) Please hear me I have the covers every project in the country. How can they run list of 14 projects which have been cleared and they away like this? ... (Interruptions) are at various stages of progress. When they will be completed, we will be able to produce about 3,435 MW MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please listen to the Prime of electricity. At this stage, I am unable to say as to Min~ster. when they will be completed because there are a THE PRIME MINISTER (SHRI H.D. DEVE GOWDA): number of problems. With your permission, Sir, I would like to say that the Two fast track projects have been cleared. One was hon. Member has tried to attribute motives. cleared just about a week back, that was Enron. The SHRl GEORGE FERNANDES : I have attributed no other one is in Orissa and that also the Or~ssa motlves. Sir. I have asked a direct question. I take strong Government IS re-examining. It has been started. Other objection to it. I have not attributed any motives. How six fast track projects, including Congentr~x,have not can the Prime Minister make that statement? What been cleared. motrves have I attributed, please ask him ...(lnterrutions) SHRl PRAMOD MAHAJAN : Maharashtra has SHRl H.D. DEVE GOWDA : I have understood it. cleared the Bhadravati project. Let me answer ...(Interruptions) SHRI. H.D. DEVE GOWDA : I have not given the MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Shri George Fernandes, details. I am only saying that 14 projects have been you had your say. Please listen to him. cleared. The Central Electricity Authority has clear~d (Interruptions) about 94 projects but the detailed project reports w~th respect to 23 projects only have been received. SHRl GEORGE FERNANDES : You please ask him, what motives have I attributed. He has to withdraw that They are under various stager of scrutiny. We do statement. I have attributed no motlves. not want to delay this issue, I tell you very frankly. I am not responsible for what happened In the earlier stages SHRl H.D. DEVE GOWDA : I can also shout. I can I tell you frankly, we want to see and clear all those shout better, projects wlth the cooperation of the State Government MA DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please sit down. There I8 no question of delay on our patl whether the r project belongs to Madhya Pradesh or Himachal SHRl H.D. DEVE GOWDA : Sir, the Minister has Pradesh or whichever State. My Prlmary concern is to given a break-up. The Cogentrix Project has not yet been cleared by the Central Government. The PPA is at see that this power problem b sorted out. the level of the State Government, which is the I request the hon. Members that this subject be Karnataka Electricity Board. So far as this power dlscussod separately because thls is r very Important 9 Oral Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Oral Answers 10

issue. 1 think, the whole matter cannot be explained to Government. I would like to know whether this aspect the House during Question Hour because there are will be considered by the Union Government or will it various issues involved. i request the Chair that in be left to the Union Territory Administration? consultation with Business Advisory Committee, separate time be allotted for an exclusive discussion on DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : We have already power situation in the country. discussed R with the hon. Prime Minister, we will examine the case ...(interrutions) so far as power projects are concerned, some have been taken up under the MOU method, and some have [Translation] been taken up under the open bidding method. Dioerrer Crured by Coal Arh The things mentioned by George sahab and others can be discussed threadbare. I am prepared to answer I on all these points. There are many doubts lurking in '103. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : Will the the minds of the hon. Members which cannot be cleared PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : during the Question Hour. So, my sincere appeal to the (a) whether attention of the Government has been Chair is, if the House agrees, to allow an exclusive drawn to the growing incidence of Tuberculosis and discussion on power situation in the country. Asthma among empioyees of thermal power stations ...( Interruptions) due to pollution caused by coal ash, noise and unclean environmental premises; [Translation] (b) if so, whether the Government have conducted MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : it can be discussed under any surveylstudy to assess the number of employees Rule 193. 1 am allowing only one are supplementary. so affected in various thermal power stations across the country; [English] (c) if so, details thereof; and SHRl H.D. DEVE GOWDA : i request the Chair that the Rule under which this can be discussed be decided (d) the steps taken by the Government to check this in the Business Advisory Committee ...(Interruptions) hazard in the thermal power stations?

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Right. [Englis hj SHRl P.R. DASMUNSI : Sir, the hon Minister in his THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF reply had stated that 94 projects are monitored directly POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MiNlSTRY by the Central Government of which 23 entrepreneurs OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S have already signed Power Purchase Agreements. While VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) to (d). A Statement is laid the Government welcome the private entrepreneurs to on the Table of the House. partrcipate in the power sector because it is the genuine need of the hour, It was though of that per-unit-rate for , consumption by the public will be taken care of while STATEMENT clearing these Power Purchase Agreements. May I know from the hon. Minister, out of these 23 private (a) to (d). Government has not received any Report entrepreneurs that have signed the Power Purchase indicating the growing incidence of Tuberculosis and agreements, who has signed at the lowest per-unit- Asthma among the employees of Thermal Power rate, and which is the State concerned? That is precisely Stations due to pollution caused by coal ash. my point. Environmental guidelines for Thermal Power Plants DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : As the hon. Prime provide that proper and adequate precautionary Minister has informed just now, only two projects are measures should be taken : cleared so far. As far as the Orissa project is concerned, (i) To check the emission of dust from coal 1is with the State Government. Our of 94 only 23 Power handling areas; workers engaged in the coal Purchase Agreements are signed which include MOUs handling operations should be medically as well as letters of inlent. As to the lowest per-unit-cost . examined regularly for lung diseases. and other details, we will inform the hon. Member personal protection equipment such as dust separately. masks, respirators, helmets, face shields otc SHRl MANORANJAN BHAKTA : Mr. Deputy Speaker, should be provided to the workers. Slr, I would llke to seek a ciarificatlon from the hon. (ii) To control the level ol noise below 85 dB -, Minister. The hon. Minister has replied that in cases (decible); workers are required to wear ear. where a project is worth less that Rs.100 Crore, the plugs or ear-muffs for their protection. States wlll be deciding. But nothing specific has been mentbned as far as the Union Territories are concerned. (iii) Proper house keeping and cleanliness They are small territories and they being the Union should be maintained, both inside and Terrllories the responsibility should be with the Union outside plant. 11 Oral Answers JULY 17, 1906 Oral Answers 12

[Translation] the nearby residential areas but hon. Mlnlster states that he has not recelved any such report and has not DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the reply glven by hon. Mlnlster Is such Information. I have speclflcally pointed out that In Madhya Pradesh due to lack of such arrangement in erroneous and far from reality. Various newspapers such as Rashtriya Sahara, Janasatta have constantly been thermal power statlons sltuated In Korba and Sangll, publishing reports that the layers of the ash emltted by the people are undergoing Immense sufferlngs. I would these thermal power stations settle down in the houses llke to request hon, Minister to look into this matter and nearby resulting in breathing disorders asthma and give a speclfic reply. tuberculosis to the residents llvlng there. The [English] Government maintains that It is not aware of any such thing and It Is very unfortunate that they have not got DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Mr. Deputy Speaker, any survey conducted. 1 would llke to know from the Sir, as far as the hon. Member is concerned there are hon. Minister whether Government propose to get any some news reports about incidents of tuberculosis and survey conducted with regard to serious diseases being asthama. But no specific case has been reported by the caused by pollution and ash emitting from such thermal management of the thermal stations. in Madhya Pradesh power stations. Assembly also, a questlon has been raised and an answer has been given to the effect that no specific [English] case has been reported. In one area, prevalence is there but mines are also located there. Our authorities DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Mr. Deputy-Speaker, are unable to say whether it is due to mines or thermal Sir, as I already mentioned, the problem is due to coal ash, sulphur dioxide and the oxides converted Into power stations. nitrogen oxide. So far we have recelved information As far as the thermal stations are concerned, there specifically from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Even a Is no specific case of prevalence of tuberculosis and questlon in this regard has been raised in the Madhya asthama. Pndesh Assembly during the last Session. No specific complamt has been received regarding the workers [Translation] getting any disease due to this. The Ministry of DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : The labourers have Environment and Forests, concerned State Governments, written that they have got such a disease but the~r the Central Pollutlon Board and the State Pollution applications are consigned to a dustbln. Boards are watching and notices are issued to those who are violating the rules and regulations in this regard [En glib h] to maintain adequate pollution control facilities. DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Regarding the mlnl So far, 73 such thermal projects are surveyed. Out old thermal stations, I will write to the SEBs to enforce of 73, in 33 projects we have not found any major the standards again by way of using better equipments defect of any kind and in 40 projects, implementation of We are helping the State Electricity Boards through machine control measures is in progress. In Delhi, Power Finance Corporation. We have also issued notices were issued to Badarpur and I.P. Thermal environmental measures to be undertaken by the Stations for improvement and remaining 28 Thermal thermal stations. Stations are under examinations Twelve notices were served in this regard. This is the status. [Translation] SHRl NlTlSH KUMAR : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the [Translation] reply given by the Government is itself evasive. Hon'ble DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : Mr. Deputy Minister is new in the Government, therefore, he is Speaker, Sir as hon. Minister has admitted that out of giving reply on the basts of the material that the officers total 73 stations, proper facllities are available only in of his Ministry have provided to him. Being a politician 33 thermal power stations. There ir no arrangement in he mud be havlng experience. Had he vlslted any rest of tta 40 thermal power station8 to check the thermal power plant or gone around it, he would not pollution. In order to koep the environment free from have given such a reply. Chandrapura Thermal Power pollution, your have mentioned only Badarpur thermal Plant near Bokaro, caures burn8 to the people. When power station. Kindly give detallr of the action being a Member, irrerpectlve of the party, vlslts that plant, taken regardlng the rest of the rtatlonr. During the last people livlng there always complaln that they are really Lok Sabha, I had made a similar query vide starred in agony. Now the hon'ble Mlnlster ha8 told that the Question No.313 dated 25 April, 1995. At that tlme alro environment Mlnirtry has lrrued guldeliner In this lt was stated that such an arrangement will be made regard, Now, the management rhould make all these shortly. More than one year ha8 parred since. I am very arrangemanta. My flrrt questlon is a8 to whether thole rorry and as I said and the newrpaperr have alro arrangrmentr have bran made by the management for mentioned and published repoRs about ttr Ill effect on the rdety of heatth of Its worker8 or not? Thr people the health of people and about the poison emitted In living around the power plant who do not work in the 13 Ord Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Oral Answers 14

plant suffer due to ash and other problems. My second and other lung diseases to the people. It causes question Is, whether the Government propose to take breathlng problem also ...(Interruptions) Besides, some measures in this regard? The hon'ble Minister electronic Items of the people are also getting damaged has stated that a survey has been conducted but the I would like to know whether, on behalf of the management has not submitted any report so far. Government, hon'ble Minister would get some of the 'Therefore, the management is at fault. It should submit workers medically examined by constituting an expert the report, Sir, through you, I would like to ask whether committee and take action by laying the reporl of that the Government propose to take some remedial committee In this House. At the same time, will the measures in this regard by conducting an inquiry on its Government provide any gpecial medical facllity to those own? workers who have fallen Ill? ...(Interruptions)

[English] [English] DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Definitely, Sir, so far DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Sir, we would issue no specific Incident had been reported to our Ministry. fresh instructions to the State Government to glve us If the hon. Members have any specific incident, let them status report for ensuring better compliance of emission intimate me. In addition to this, the States have their standards. own medical equipment As far as Thermal Power Stations are concerned, the Central Government is SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, it is a fact that the keeping them neat and hygienic. In addition to regular Fly-ash of the thermal power stations creates a pollution doctors, we are sending specialists there for periodical problem. There is also the problem of disposal .of fly- medical check-up. ash. The Central Fuel Research Institute of Dhanbad had developed a technology to utllise this fly-ash for SHRl NITISH KUMAR : What about the people living ferti!iser and for making of fly-ash bricks. around the power plants? What are you doing for them? 7 May I know from the hon. Minister whether the DR S. VENUGOPALACHARI : In all the localities Central Government will assist the State Government the clinics are functioning. The specialists are also so that the fly-ash can be utllised for fertiliser as it has visiting once a week. If there is any specific case been done in Kloaghat Thermal Power Station in West pertaining to any State, the hon. Member may bring it Bengal and also in Bengal Power Station? I would also to my notice. like to know, in order to do that whether the Central Now, I will come to air pollution. Coal is used In Government would assist the State Government in order thermal stations. We are constantly giving money tor to mitigate the problem of fly-ash. controlling air polluti , We are also giving equipment DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Mr. Speaker Sir, this like ESP etc, for reducing ash flying in open. Although problem is coming only with the old thermal power it is the responsibility of the Ministry of Power yet we stations, even though for using the fertiliser, definitely will again review everything. we will give instructions. The Central Government has . SHRl NlTlSH KUMAR : He is saying that he will also instructed the State Government to establish some review everything. This is an essurance. fly-ash machines. Fly-ash machines have been set up by the State Governments and the Central Government is ass~stingall the States whenever the proposal are received The Central Government is giving the finance SHRl HARADHAN ROY : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, I also hail from coal mines area. There are many coal for this. mines apart from a thermal power plant there. The coal SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA : They should also handling plant which has been built there releases so utilise the fly-ash for fertilizer and for making bricks. much dust that the entire area becomes dark thereby DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : 1 will examine this, reducing the visibility to almost zero. Not only workers Sir. but even the people living in that area suffer from this dust and it cases many diseases like pneumoconiosis. SHRl MADHUKAR SARPOTDAR : Sir, this question This is an occupational disease. No inquiry is conducted is very specific. Authentic information has been asked by the Government to check it and no compensation is for as to whether there are such cases and while giving given to the patient. The previous Government had not the reply the Government has said that there was no pald any attention to this problem. Now, I would like to report. request the present Government that it should pay full Sir, the notices of these questions were given 20 attention to It. I would like to know whether any action '' days in advance. Since all Members of Parliaments is likely to be taken by the Government in this regard from the respective areas are complaining very severely or not? that there are cases of tuberculosis and asthma, my SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT : Mr. Deputy only question is, wherever such thermal power stations Speaker, the ash released by Korba, Sarani, Thermal are there; has the Government recelved such repotis? Power Plant in Madhya Pradesh causes asthma, silicosis I would also like to know whether the Central 15 . Oral Answers , JULY 17, 1896 On1 Answrrs 16

Government has taken pains to find out from the thermal [Trans la tlon] power stations, how many such cases are there and SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Mr. Deputy what the remedies. Speaker, Sir, I wanted to know from the hon. ~lnieteras Whatever guidelines have been glven are under to why Delhi has not been included in the areas selected the provisions of the Act. We are not interested in for cbnductlng satellite survey. Lakhs of people suffer I Knowing the provisions of the Act. We are interested in losses and people living on the banks of Yamuna are the implementation of these provisions. rendered homeless whenever floods occur in Delhi. DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI : Sir, we have received The people living on the Yamuna banks suffer losses of almost all information from all State Electricity Boards. life and property and their livestock perishes. In his The Maharashtra State Electricity Board has recently reply the hon. Minister has stated that a satellite survey conducted a survey in June 1994. They have told us of Delhi has been conducted but In the very first and that there was no incident, Uttar Pradesh and Madhya last line of the reply it has been stated clearly. Pradesh Electricity Boards have also reported 'no [English] incidents.' Similar answers have been given by the remaining States. "this project does not cover the National Capital Territory of Delhi." In addition to that, again I will instruct all the concerned State Electricity Board authorities to review [Translation] the prevalence of such diseases. I would like to know as to why he is making self [Translation] contradictory statements at the same time. Does th~s survey costs cores of rupees? Why this project was not Satrllitr Survey included in the Eighth Five Year Plan?

'104. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Will the [English] PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH : Sir, If the hon. Member (a) whether a Satellite survey of the flood and looks at the reply, he wili find that as lar as floods are drought affected areas in National Capital Territory of concerned, for Yamuna, the Yamuna Morphological Study Delhi has been conducted/proposed to be conducted; has been completed and the results are available for action. As far as droughts are concerned - the question (b) if so, the details thereof; and relates both to floods and droughts - the Space (c) if not, the reasons therefor? Department is doing a special study for drought affected areas. Those are identified by the Planning Commiss~on. [English] They are in different areas and Delhi is not a part of THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF that., PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND Now, there is also a separate proposal to set up MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE State Level centres. Such centres are already there In AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDEh K. ALAGH) : (a) a number of States. It is our intention to extend that to to (c). A Statement is laid on the Table of the Lok all the States in the Ninth Five Year Plan. I hope that Sabha. clarifies the position.

STATEMENT [Translation] (a) to (c). A flood inundation map of Yamuna river SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Mr. Deputy near Delhi was prepared using Indian Remote Sensing Speaker, Sir, my point was at this project was not so Satellite data of December 14, 1995. currently, a project costly that It could not be included in the Eighth Five entitled 'Yamuna Morphological Studies" is being Year Plan. He said that It would be taken up in the Ninth executed jointly by Department of Space (DOS) and Five Year with the rest of the country. During the floclds Central Water Commission (CWC), which includes study last tlme 4 lakhr houses were damaged in Delhi and of the flood situation of Yamuna river near Dolhi. Remote almost 25 thousand cattle were dead. Will the sensing satellite data 1s being currently used for drought Government include Delhl in the project when thlr figure assessment and monitoring in eleven states of the reaches 10 lakh. What Is his parameter for Its select~on country which are mostly agriculturally important and in the Ninth five Year Plan and not In the Eighth Five Year Plan. vulnerable to drought, under a project funded by C Department of Agrrculture and Co-operation and as SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH : Slr, I would llke to such, this project does not cover the National Capital clarlfy that in view of tho flood problem In Delhi a study Terrttory of Delhi. However, during the Ninth Plan period, of rpace lor river yamuna is being conducted. Restilts this project is expected to the entire country which would of this study is avallable wlth the Statr Government8 In include the National Capital Territory of Delhi. regard to the drought prone anar..... 17 Oral Answers ASAOHA 26. 1918 (Saka) Oral Answers 18

SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Delhi Is not a this information every sixth day. If that too is needed by drought prone area and my question relates to flood the State Governments we will provide all help to them, problems. If they request us. SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH : Both the problems of DR. ASlM BALA : Remote Sensing Satellite is a flood and drought have been mentioned in the question good mechanism to identify unknown areas. Here it is and therefore, I am replying to both the problems. A mentioned that remote Sensing Satellites could be Morphological survey has been conducted on Yamuna utilised for assessing drought and agricultural areas. I with the help of satellite facillty and the facility is would like to know what the other area of operation is available with the State Government. I am glad to say That is one. Secondly, is there a proposal to help the that our scientists have done it with the help of remote State Governments, if they approach the Central sensing within 6 days. The State Governments set up Government for help? remote sensing centres at their levels for detailed use SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH : The hon. Member IS of these facilities through the remote sensing centre of quite right. Our Remote Sensing Satellite are some of a nearby State. We will provide assistance if Delhi the most advanced in the world today. They are bemg Government intends to use it during the Ninth Five Year used for oceanographic studies, for cartographic Plan applications, in geographical information systems for

SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL , Mr. Deputy local planning, for climate and atmospheric studies. Speaker, Sir, no meeting has ever been held or any Also, I am very happy to inform him that there is a discussion held between the Government of Delhi and lot of global Interest in the data collected by our Remote the Central Government in this regard. There is no other Sensing Satellites The U.S.A. based company. MIS forum where it could be discussed then what would be EOSAT has entered into a commercial agreement with the impact of this report on Delhi. the Department of Space for the dissemination of data SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH We have glven the from Indian Remote Sensing Satellites and marketing information to State Governments through the other Indian remote sensing capabilities outside India Department of space just as the Urban and Slum also As the hon Member knows, Remote Senstng Department of Delhi asked for information. Jawaharlal Satellites have been used for drought, for monitoring Nehru University has prepared a project for the r~dge the water levels in our different dams and for a number area in Delhi. The Department of Space has provided of other operations. assstance for utihsat~onof water there. I am glad to tell DR. ASlM BALA : I have asked another question. the hon Member that the first check dam has already that I have put as question number two. been constructed there and durlng last monsoon water MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have allowed Prof. Rasa filled in ~twhlch has gone below the earth now. Thls will benefit that area Munic~palCorporation of Delhl has Singh Rawat. glven a proposal to solve thls problem by conductmg [Translation] an aer~alsurvey in plac: of satellite survey. It is being discussed with them, Thls project will cost rupees two PROF. RASA SlNGH RAWAT . Mr. Deputy Speaker, crores Sir, through you. I want to know from the Government, that in the reply given by the Minister now, it is written SHRl JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL (Chandni Chowk- that at present remote sensing satellite data is belng Delhi) Mr Deputy Speaker, Sir, I wanted to know from used in the analysis and monitormg of drought. In eleven the hon. Minister as to why Delhi has not been included such States, which are chiefly agrtculturally important in the areas selected for conducting satellite survey and sensitive to drought, under a project conducted lakhs of people suffer lasses and people llving on the through financial assistance from Agriculture and Co- banks of Yamuna are rendered homeless floods occur operative Department. I want to know the States In Delh~.The people living on the Yamuna banks suffer included in thls project Whether Rajasthan IS included losses of life and property and their livestock perishes. or not? There are deserts also in Rajasthan. Now there In his reply the hon. Minister has sated that a satellite are also flash floods in Rajasthan, causlng heavy loss survey of Delhi has been conducted but In the very first of lives and property. Ralasthan is also sensitwe lo and last line of the reply it has been stated clearly, droughl. Large areas are under drought. Has any study been done in this regard and whether any conclus~ons [English] have been drawn? "this project does not cover the National SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH . Mr. Deputy Speaker, Capital Territory of Delhi." the areas that are droughl prone in Rajasthan ... PROF. RASA SlNGH RAWAT :Which are the Stares and whether Rajasthan is lncluded or not? If yes, what The Department of Space will keep ready Its aircraft are the conclusions of their study? at their disposal. But it is hoped that study will also now be taken up. The information from remote sensing SHRI YOGINDER K.ALAGH :The number of drought satellite is avallable at SIX metres. And we can obtain prone districts identified is 246. This includes the drought 19 Oral Answers JULY 17, prone districts in ail the States. lnformation is obtained SHRlMATl SUSHMA SWARAJ : Mr. Deputy Speaker, for all these districts through the remote sensing satellite. Sir, It is a very good question. The Mlnlster has sald that These drought prone areas are In Andhra Pradesh, in the Ninth Plan, the Is a posslblllty of extending this Bihar, Gujarat, Haryana, Karnataka, Madhya Pradesh, project in the entlre country. In whlch the National Capital Uttar Pradesh, Rajasthan and Orissa. The lnformation Region of Delhi wlll also be included. Since this is a , there, at the Dlstrict Cropping and Cunlng Experiments, very important subject, I want to know from the Minister, of the Agriculture Department Is three-four years old. that In view of the fact that our country faces drought and But, we get this information which sooner through flood alternately. Therefore, would you glve an assurance satellites and this is passed on to the Agriculture in this House, to change this possibility into a certainty? Mm istry.. . (Interruptions) SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH : Madam, our satellites PROF. RASA SlNGH RAWAT : But, you have not pick up the information regarding the several flood, prone told the conclusion. areas and the drought hk districts, and are given to the SHRl YOGINDER K. ALAGH : We have a project. State Governments. I want that at our Department, a One is, collecting information regarding the water bodies, remote sensing centre is set up at the State Level. At such as lakes, ponds, for immediate problems like present, there are such centres in over 20 States. It will drought. Second is about the Cropping Pattern. be our endeavour to have such a centre in each State, lnformation regarding this is given rather early to the for which the State Governments would have to make State Governments. If you see the report of 1987-88 efforts and we would help them. As the hon. Member drought-which is ready-it will be seen that information had said earlier, that there may be several requlrements is simultaneously available, regarding drought. On the at the regional level, which can be solved by the States other level there is National Natural Resource Management Programme. Under this programme, themselves with the help of our satellites. And if they through the satellite, assistance is sought for the long have the sensing and imaging capability, they can avail term solution to the land and water problems, of these this facility. Some States have this capability. More than districts. Becuase, from this it is known as to which are 20 States have this capability. It would be our effort to the places where water can be stored. The places under see that each State has this capability. forest. And the ways to increase this forest cover. [English] SHRI XAVIER ARAKAL : Sir, after a lengthy answer WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS we are more confused than enlightened We are proud that the satellite technology has improved tremendously [English] and they are supplying sufficient information. If so, why LPG Cylindrrr is it that the country is prone to floods and droughts? Since the technology is so advanced, why IS the country '101. SHRl PARASRAM BHARDWAJ : Will the prone to such floods, droughts and earthquakes? Why PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : are the State Governments not in a posit~onto meet the (a) the details regarding the lotal requirement of calamities? Would you please specify these two LPG in terms of tonnage as against the production at questions and answer them? present; SHRI YOGINDER K ALAGH : The satellites are a help in solving the basic problems that the hon. Member (b) the details of Government schemes to increase is talking about, lnformation which can take sometimes the production of LPG by expanding the capa.ities of months to become available, becomes available over a existing refineries and through natural gas, separatoly, period of one or two weeks. As the hon. Member knows, (c) the proposals of the procurcmont of LPG satellites by themselves, cannot solve the problems of cylinders as against the present requirement thereof, and droughts and floods. Those problems need to be solved in terms of the steps which have been indicated in our (d) the number of unHs in each state where orders Five Year Plans and the various flood control commission for supply of LPG cylinders have been placed? Reports and other Reports. The satellite imagery is a THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF major aid for resolving these problems. i would request PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BMLU). the hon. Member to appreciate the efforts of the (a) The details of conrumption through Public Depanment of Space in that light. Sector Oil companks and productbn of LPG in the country SHRl XAVIER ARAKAL : Sir, the hon. Minister has during Iart two year8 (1994-05 rnd 1995-96) an rr given not answered my question as to why the State below : Governments are not In a porltion to meet the figures In 000 IdT challenges. - Year LPG Production LPG Conrumptlon [Translation] 1994-95 2858 3434 MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You have asked your lQQ5-QB(Prov.) 3240 3830 supplementary. No wcond supplementary. 21 Wrlttrn Anrwers ASADHA 26. 1918 (kka) Wrltfrn Anrwrrs 22

(b) Plans have been drawn to augment LPG (c) The number of LPG cylinders required to be production through expansion of reflnlng capacity at procured in a year depends on the annual enrolment oxlsting refineries durlng IX Plan as per details given target of new LPG customers, the issue of 2nd cylinder below : facllity (DBC) and the replacement of unserviceable cylinders. On the basis of proposed enrolment of 20 Existing Expansion Expected LPQ Production lakhs new customers and 20 lakhs DBC customers reflnlng proposed year of (000 MT) during 1996-97 and on the basis of 2% replacement of capaclty (MMT) commiss- 1896-97 2001-2002 existing cylinders in circulation, about 60 lakhs cylinders (MMT) ionina (EST) (EST) may be procured in 1996-97. Vlzag (d) The requishe information is given in the attached Barauni statement. 1st Expn. 2nd Expn. STATEMENT MRPL Sfatewise details of LPG cyllnder manufacturing Koyali units on whom orders tor procurement of CRL LPG cylinders have been placed by Publlc MRL Sector Oil Cos. lor 1996-97. Mathura - - -- ~.NO.Name of the State No. of Cylinders Manufacturing Units Gas Authority of India Ltd., is puttmg up the following new natural gas based LPG extraction plants 1 Andhra Pradesh 10 4. for recovery of LPG from natural gas. 2. Delhi 1 S. Location LPG Production Expected year of 3. Gujarat 2 No. (000 MT) Commissioning 4. Himachal Pradesh 2 1. LPGLakwa, 85.0 1998 5. Haryana 5 Assam 6. Karnataka 4 2. LPG Usar 139.5 1998 7. Keraia 1 Maharashtra 8. Madhya Pradesh 4 3. GPC Gandhar 370.0 1999-2000 Gujarat 9. Maharashtra 5 4. LPG Auralya 258.0 1999-2000 10. Orissa 3 (U P.) 11. Punjab 1

The plantwise details of ONGC's actual LPG 12. Rajasthan 5 production for the year 1995-96 vls-a-vls the plan, the 13. Tamilnadu 5 projected LPG production after completion of expansion 14. Uttar Pradesh 4 projects presently under execut~onand the projected 15. West Bengal 3 LPG production for the terminal year of the IX plan per~odare as under : 16. Pondicherry 1 (Figures in 000 MT)

Phnt LPQ pod , 1995-Q6 (Prqected LPG product~on)

Plan Actual Aft* Co At he end mmlrriontng of the New Power Policy of expansm IX Plan propctr with time '105 SHRl S.D.N.R. WADIYAR : Will the PRIME lrame of complehon MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) whether the Government have a proposal lo Urrn 450 590 500 (May'97) 500 review existlng power policy;

-' Anklerhwor 20 23 10 10 (b) t so, the detalls thereof; and I ' Grndhrr 5 6 31 (Sept'Q6) 31 (c) the specific measures proposed to be adopted in the new policy to meet the demand of power In evwy State? 23 Wrlttrn Answers JULY 1 996 Wrltten Answen 24

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) The programme-wise utilization expressed as a POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY percentage of total funds avallable (annual releases OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. plus the unspent balance at the commencement of the VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) to (c). The Power Policy is year) for major programmes is given in the table reviewed from time to time keeping in view the changing below : requirements. The Government have, Inter-alia, initiated the following measures to meet the demand of power Utllizatlon ol Funds as ' in the country : */o of total funds available Capacity addition programme Including 1994-95 1995-96 encouragement to the private sector to invest, lntegrated Rural Develop- Renovation and Modernisation programme, ment Programme 73.33 72.95 Demand side management, Jawahar Rozgar Yojana 78.78 77.12 Improvement in Plant Load Factor, Employment Assurance Scheme 69.59 64.00 Reduction in transmission and distribution Nehru Rozgar Yojana 70.93 109.40 losses, and Prime Minister's lntegrated Urban Poverty Alleviation Effective utilisation of generation by transfer Programme (PMIUPEP) was launched in November from surplus region to deficit region through 1995. inter-regional links.

(c) The amount of unutilized funds for each Poverty Alleviation Programme programme (Statewise) during 1994-95 and 1995-96 is given in Statement Ill. PROF. AJIT KUMAR MEHTA : - SHRI P'RADEEP BHATTACHARYA : (d) The main reasons for unutilised funds under Will the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME major rural poverty alleviation programmes &re (I) delayed release of funds by the Central Government on IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state . account of late submission of the audited statement of (a) the amount allocated in respect of poverty accounts by the implementing agency; (ii) delayed alleviation programmes to different States and Union submission of expenditurelutilization certificates; (iil) Territories during 1994-95 and 1995-96; delayed releaselnon-release of matching share by the (b) whether it is a fact that substantial amount of State Governments. In the case of urban poverty the outlay for poverty alleviation and development alleviation programmes, particularly Scheme ol Urban programme remains unutilised; Micro Enterprises (SUME) ar~dScheme of Housing and Shelter Upgradation (SHASU) which are components of (c) if SO, the State-wise outlay which remained Nehru Rozgar Yojana funds remained unutilized due to unutilised during the financial year 1995-96 and how delayed releasetnon-release by banks. does it compare with the amount unutilised during the financial year 1994-95; (e) Unutilized funds at the end of any one year are (d) the reasons therefor; carr~edforward as the opening balance lor the implementation of the programme in the next year, th~s (e) the overall impact on the poverty alleviation and would alleviate adverse impact on poverty alleviation development programmes on account of the non- programmes on this account. utilisation of the outlay; and (I) To ensure maximum, utilization of linanc~al (1) the steps taken by the Government in the matter? resources under major rural poverty alleviat~on THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF programmes (i) lunds are belng released directly to Ihe PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND implementing agencies 1.8. the Distr~ct Rural MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE Development Agencies (DRDAs) in most States: (i~) AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) (a) Furthermore, in order to streamline and mlnimlse Ihe The Statewise allocation ol funds durlng 1994-95 and delay in the transmission of lunds a system of l995-D6 for major rural poverty alleviati& programmes telegraphic transfer to the DRDAs has been introduced namely (i) lntegrated Rural Development Programme In the limited cases where funds released to States, (IRDP), (ii) Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY); (iii) release advices' are sent through fax messages to Ihe Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) IS given In the Reserve Bank India; (iii) The Central Government tas anached Statement I. The availability of funds lor urban also been expediting the State Governments to enslrre poveny alleviation programmes namely Nehru Rozgar timely subm~ssionol the utilization certificate8 and Yojana (NRY) and Prime Minister's lntegrated Urban autited statements of accounts, to circumvent delay In Poverty Alleviation Programme (PMIUPEP), is glven in the releare of funds; (k) At the time of the Annual Plan the attached Statement-11. exercise conducted in the Planning Commis8ion nith 25 Wrltten Anrwers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sakr) Wrltten Answers 2 6

the State Governments, an attempt is made to ensure are unable to utlllse thelr allocations, to the better adequate provision of outlay for the major Centrally performing States. Sponsored rural poverty alleviation programmes in the In a recent Conference of Chlef Ministers of Basic State's Plan, to enable them to provide their matching Minimum Services it was agreed that in the contrlbution. implementation of Centrally Sponsored Schemes in the 6 For the urban poverty alleviation programmes, in areas of urban and rural poverty alleviation and the context of the NRY (i) a High Committee on employment, the States would be given greater lnstltutionrl finance has been consituted to expedite involvement, freedom and flexibility. In addition, the the release tunds from banks tor SUM€ and SHASU; (il) Government is to review all anti-poverty programmes At the State and District level Urban Development with a view to redesigning and strengthening them to Agencies have been set up for more eflective ensure generation of more employment, creation of implementation of the programme; (iii) Furthermore, to productive assets and imparting ol skills to the poor, In ensure maxlmum utilization of the total funds under order to enhance their income levels and to bring them NRY, funds are being relocated from those States which above the poverty line.

Allocation of funds (Centre + State) under major rural development programmes during 1994-95 and 1995-96 (Rs, in lakhs) S.No. StateslUTs IRDP JRY €AS' 1994-95 1995-96 1994-95 1995-96 1994-95 1995-96

Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Assam Bihar Goa Gujaral Haryana Himachal Pradesh J and K Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Manipur Meghalaya Mizoram Nagaland Orlssa Punlab Rajasthan Sikklm Tamil Nadu Tripura Uftar Pradesh West Bengal 27 Writlen Answers JULY 17, 1996 Wrlnm Anawors 28

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 26. A and N Islands 71 -00 70.94 152.70 152.69 40.00 40.00 27. D and N Haveli 15.00 14.99 82.89 82.88 20.00 30.00 28. Daman and Diu 28.00 27.97 48.83 48.83 0.00 20.00 29. Lakshadweep 7.00 6.99 76.55 76.55 100.00 100.00 30. Pondicherry 58.00 57.95 149.47 149.48

All India 109822.00 109721.16 437692.38 454497,41 141025.00 213163.75 Total funds released (Centre + State). No Statewise allocations arr made under EAS, as It is a domand-drivm schrme

Funds available under major urban poverty Meghalaya alleviation programmes during 1994-95 and 1995-96. Mizoram in lakhs) (RB. Nagaland ------StateslUTs NRY' PMUPEP" Orissa 1994-95 1995-96 1985-95 ~un'jab Rajasthan - Sikkim Andhra Pradesh Tamil Nadu Arunachal Pradesh Tripura Assam Bihar Unar Pradesh Goa West Bengal Gujarat A and N Islands Haryana Chandigarh Himachal Pradesh D and N Haveli J and K Daman and Diu Karnataka Delhi Kerala Pondicherry Madhya Pradesh All India 9898,31 8404 14 10580.00 Maharashtra Centre t State Manipur " Central Release

Amount of funds unulilized under poverty allev~atlonprogrammes durrng 1994.95 and 1995.96 (Rs, in lakhs)

S.No. StateslUTs IRDP J RY EAS N RY 1994-95 1995.96 1994-95 1995-96 1994-95 1995.96 1994.95 1995-96

1 Andhra Pradesh 1321 36 2070 65 4743.07 61 19.38 1134.30 7072.26 (-)61.36 (-)76 08 2 ArunachalPradesh 285.97 326.25 149.66 97.02 501.02 868.22 19.17 28.05 3 Assam 2455.51 1318.39 2743.72 2810.09 3299.10 3501.12 (.)68.04 39.59 4 Bihar 9306.35 7029 48 29829.67 35570.38 7627 10 15013 48 582.09 (-)20.92 5 Goa 104.52 25.30 167.50 160 12 2.35 (-)7 64 6 Gujarat (-j72.29 84.68 31 85.65 4218.27 3125.07 6085.92 147.87 162.41- 29 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 30

2 3 Haryana 508.31 Hlmachal Pradesh 11 1.47 J and K 371 .90 Karnataka 2157.83 Kerala 284.85 Madhya Pradesh 875.50 Maharashtra 3270.86 Manipur 53.56 Meghalaya 62.99 Mizoram 18 67 Nagaland 125.54 Orissa 1951.67 Punjab 72 61 Rajasthan 1312.75 Sikkim 16.04 Tamil Nadu 2029.97 Tripura (-)I06.76 Uttar Pradesh 3268.46 West Bengal 6722.19 A and N Islands 15.70 Chandlgarh D and N Haveli 4.66 Daman and Dlu 16.34 Delhi Lakshadweep (-)4.07 Pondicherry 90.24

- - - All India 36633 20 39287 92 114988 75 132499.24 53981.25 96178.39 2876 97 (-)790.09

(b) and (c). The Central Government has been implementing several programmes for faster devebment Employment Opportunities of rural areas and generation of more employment opporiunities. The mapr rural employment prognmmes are (i) Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY), (il) Employment '107 SHRI DATTA MEGHE Assurance Scheme (EAS), and (iii) Integrated Rural KUMARI UMA BHARATI : Development Programme (IRDP). Will the Mmister of RURAL AREAS AND The primary objective of the JRY is to provlde EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : additional gamful employment to the unemployed and (a) whether the Governmenl have promised to pay under-employed rural poor. The secondary objectives more attention towards Rural Areas and Employment, include creation of sustained employment by strengthening the rural economic ~nlrastructun.With (b) whether the Government have formulated any effect from 2nd October, 1993, another major wage scheme lor taster development and generation of more employment programme namely Employment Assurance employment avenues in rural sector; and Scheme (EAS) is also being lmplementod in backward I (c) Il so, the details thereof? blocks situated in tribal areas. drought prono areas, desert areas, hilly areas etc. Currently €AS is. belng THE MINISTER OF RURAL AREAS AND Implemented in 3206 such blocks In the county. €AS EMPLOYMENT (SHRI K. YERAN NAIDU) : (a) Yes, Sir. alms to provide assured empbyment of 100 drys of 3 1 wrltten ~nswers JUL~

unskilled manual work to the rural poor who are in committee to study opening up of the domestic oil need of employment and seeking It and in the age products market; group of 18 to 60 years. A maximum of two adults per (b) if so, whether the committee has submitted its family are to be provided employment under the scheme. report; In order to give special emph sis on backward districts in the country, the Intensified JRY was also introduced (c) ii so, the details of recommendations; and during 1993-94 in 120 selected backward districts of (d) the action taken by the Union Government .. the country which have a concentration of unemployment thereon? end under-employment. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Besides the wage employment programmes, self- PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU) employment programmes are also being implemented (a) to (d). Government has constituted a 'Strategic through out the country to provide self-employment Planning Group' on restructuring of the National Oil opportunities to the rural poor. IRDP is the major self- Industry with members comprising of top management employment programme which aims at providing from public and private sector and leading experts from financial assistance to the rural poor for taklng up self- academic and research institutes. The group has not employment activities. The financial assistance is given yet submitted its report. in the form of Government subsidy and term credit from [Translation] banks. The target group for IRDP consists of small and marginal farmers, agricultural labour and artisans below Backward Dirtrict the poverty line. safeguards are also provided for Scheduled Castes, Scheduled Tribes, women and '1 10. SHRI SHATRUGHAN PRASAD SlNGH Will physically handicapped. the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state . The Government has strengthened the poverty alleviation programmes during the Eighth Plan with a (a) whether the Government have formulated any view to providing a better safety net to the poor during programme for the development of backward dlstncts, the period of reforms. A number of new Initiatives have (b) if so, whether the Government propose to include also been taken to improve the efficiency of the certain districts of Bihar In the said programme; and programme for creating better self-employment opportunities. This includes raising of level of (c) if so, the delails thereof and if not, the reasons ~nvestment,targetting of credit, increase in allocation therefor? for mfrastructure development, encouragement to group THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF activities and lntroduct~onof a new category of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND beneficiary for educated unemployed. MlNlSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) (a) [English] to (c). The Planning and Develomen! of an area and allocation of funds for this purpose is primarily the responsibility of the concerned State Government '108. SHRI BADAL CHOUDHURY Will the PRIME However, Planning Commlsslon helps the States * Including Bihar, In overcoming the problems of MINISTER be pleased to state backwardness through Spelcal Area Programmes and (a) the rate of per cubic litre gas supplied to Assam allocation of Special Central Assistance under Trlbal and Tripura: and Sub-Plan In addition to provldlng welghtage lor (b) whether the Government IS agreeable to supply backwardness In the formula for normal Central the gas to Assam and Tripura at par rate? Assistance. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Multi-National Cornprnier in Oil Sector PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T R. BAALU): (a) and (b) The prlce of natural gas in both Assam and '11 1 SHRI SATYA DEO SlNGH Will the PRIME Tripura is Rs. 1000 per thousand cu.mtrs There IS also MINISTER be pleased lo state a provision for a dlscount of Rs. 400 per thousand cu mtrs on a case to case bass (a) whether lhere is large scale enlry of Mult~. national Companies In oil sector; Domrrtic Oil Productr (b) if so, the details thereof: (c) whether ONGC has urged the Government to '1 Oti DR. RAMKRlSHAN KUSMARIA prevent the monopolislng of the market by these MNCs, SHRI ANANTH KUMAR : (d) d so, the reactlon of the Government thereto Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stale and (a) whether the Government had appornted r (6) the steps taken by the Govermenl thereon? 3 3 Written Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Wrillrn Answers 34

------THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1 2 PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): (a) and (b). The oil sector has been opened up for 3 Rexwood - Okland Corporation GK-095 In private investment including Investment by multi- USA. Gujarat - nationals in the exploration and production of oil and b Kutch gas, as well as refining and marketing of petroleum Offshore products. The details of forelgn companies participating Basin. in such investments in the oil sector are given in the attached Statement SIXTH ROUND : (c) No, Sir. 1. HOEC, lndia - Vaalco Energy Inc. CB-OS/1 in USA Tata Petrodyne (P). Ltd. lndia Cambay (d) and (e) Do not arise Offshore basin. STATEMENT 2 Samson Internatronal Ltd., USA CB-ONl7 In (a) Exploration and product~onof Oil and Gas Cambay There have been nine rounds of bidding lor onshore explorat~on and two rounds of b~dd~ngfor the basin development of small-sued and medium-sized f~elds 3. HOEC, India-Samson International CB-ON12 In under ptoducllon shar~ngarrangements. The details of Ltd. USA - Gujarat State Petroleum Combay the contracts awarded to consortia involving foreign Corporation, India. onshore conlpanles are glven below : basln , .FOURTH ROUND --- . .---- 4. Command Petroleum Holding NL, CB-OS/2 In Name ot Company Name of the Australia, Tata Petrodyne (P) Ltd., Cambay block New Delh~ offshore -- .. -- --...--. basin 1 2 .--.-- - Consortium Compr~smgM/s Alblon KG-0s-9011 DlSCOVERED FlELDS , lnternatlonal Resources, Inc , of in Krishna SMALL-SIZED FIELDS USA, Complex Resources Limited Godavar~ of Australla, MIS Nike Resources Offshore Name of Company/consortium Fie Id Canada and HOEC of Ind~a. Basin 1. Gujarat Stale Petroleum Corporat~onHaz~ra, Consort~umComprising MIS Pan GKION-9012 Ltd. (GSPC, lndia Nlko Resources. Cambay Energy Resources, USA. Stirling In Guprat - Canada Bhandut. Resources Australia, Okland Oil Kutch Matar and Company, USA, Pan Pacific Onshore Sabarmatl Petroleum NL, Auslraha and Trans Basin Asla Consultants, lndla 2 Larsen and Toubro, Indla-Josh1 Dholka, Shell Internat~onal.Netherlands RJ-ON.9011 Technologies, USA. Wavel In Ralaslhan 3 HOEC, lndia - Mosbacher Energy PY-1 onshore Co . USA Petrodyne Inc. USA basln 4. HOEC, India - GSPC, India - Asjol CY-0s-0011 Consort~umof HOEC of Indla, Petrodyne Inc , USA Vaalco Energy Inc of USA and In Cauvery Tata Pelrodyne of Indla. offshore Medium-Sued fields basm 1 Enron, USA - Rellance Industries, Mid and FIFTH ROUND India Soulh Tapti Mukta and 1 HOEC. Ind~a-TalaPetrodyne, India. CY-092 In Panna Vaalco Energy, USA Cauvery offshore 2 Essar 011Lld.. lnd~aand Premler Ratna and basln 011 Pacllic, U.K R-Serles 2 Command Petroleum, Australla - KG-OS/6 In 3 Command Petroleum, Australla - Ravva V~deocon,lndla Krishna Videocon lndia - Marubem, Japan Godavar~ offshore 4 Compaglnie Geoflnanc~ere.France . Kharsang Enpro Servlces lndia -- -.., -

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(b) and (c). The report of the Natlonal Development Jawahar Rozgar YoJana Council (NDC) Committee on Power under Shri Sharad Pawar has been submitted and It is yet to be discussed '1 15. PROF. PREM SlNGH CHANDUMAJRA : Will In the NDC. the Minlster of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be (d) and (6). The existing policy allows private firms pleased to state : .to distribute electricity upon obtaining a license from (a) whether gross irregularlties in the the concerned State Government. One of the elements implementation of Jawahar Rozgar Yojana have been in the comprehensive policy on renewable energy belng reported In various States particularly In Punlab; worked out, Is a cess to fund non-conventional energy projects. The full implication of levying such a cess would (b) ti so, the names of the other States where such be studied before a decision is taken on the subject. irregularlties in the implementatlon of employment scheme8 in rural areas have come to the notice of the Government; Mejia Thermal Power Project in W.B. (c) whether the Government gathered any factual '113. SHRI SUNlL KHAN : Will the PRIME information regarding financial lrregularlties committed MINISTER be pleased to state : under the employment schemes; and (a) whether first unlt of Mejia Thermal Power Project (d) ti so, the details thereof and action proposed to in West Bengal has been functioning; be taken by the Government in this regard? (b) if so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI K. YERRAN NAIDU) (c) the tlme by which 2nd and 3rd units of this (a) No, Sir. However, some complaints regarding project are likely to be made functional? irregularities in the implementatlon of Jawahar Rozgar > THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Yojana (JRY) have been received from States/UTs POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY including Punjab in this Ministry. OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. (b) Complaints have been received from the VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). First Unit of 210 following States during 1995-96 and 1996-97 : MW of Mejia Thermal Power Project bemg executed by Damodar Valley Corporation was synchronised since (i) Assam March, 1996 (ii) Bihar (c) The Second and Thwd unit of 210 MW each are (iii) Gujarat scheduled to be commissioned by September, 1996 (iv) Madhya Pradesh and March, 1997 respectively. (v) Maharashtra (vi) Orissa Ga8 Grid In Gujarat (vii) Punjab I SHRI GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA : Will the (viii) Rajasthan PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state (ix) Tamil Nadu (a) whether the Government of Rajasthan has (x) Unar Pradesh requested the Union Government for portion of associated gas from the proposed gas grid in Gujarat (c) The complaints are lmmedlately tomarded. to to Rajasthan; the State Qovernment tor taking appropriate rrmedlal action. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (d) Question dors not arise, (c) the action taken by the Union Government to provide associated gas from the proposed gas grid of rans slat ion] Gujarat to Rajasthan so that Industries in Sirodhi and Jalore could be developed? Powrr Grnrratlon THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI. T.R. BAALU) '1 16. JUSTICE GUMAN MAL LODHA . : (a) and (b). The Government of Ralasthan have asked DR. MAHADEEPAK SlNBH SHAKYA : for an allocation of 20 MMSCMD from the HBJ pipellno Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state for power generation, fertiliser and methanol projects, ' LPG Extraction, petrochemical projects and ceramlc (a) the grneration capaclty of power in hydel, Industrirs. thermal and nuclear areas in the country at the md of March, 1996; (c) The gas projected to be available along the HBJ plpellne Is fully allocrted and It IS not feasible to consldrr (b) whrthrr electrictty is belng generated as per Its addltlonal allocation ot gas at present. inslalled capaclty; 3 9 Written Answers JULY 17. 1986 Written Answers 4 0

(c) if not, the average generation of electricity in (c) whether some equity in the Oil and Natural Gas hydel, thermal and nuclear sectors on the basis of total Corporation (ONGC) has since been disposed of by installed capacity on national level, separately; inviting bids lrom the fanawial institutions/mutual funds; (d) whether the cost of production of electricity in (d) if so, the details thereof and the rajes thersol; the country has increased due to less production as (e) whether it is proposed to make a public offermg " compared to the total installed capacity: and of shares of ONGC in the domestic and international capital market; and (e) if so, the approximate increase in thd percentage of cost of production in these three sectors? (1) if so, the details thereof? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU) OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. (a) It has been decided in principle to reduce Govt 's VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a)The installed capacity for shareholding in the ONGC to 80% of equity capital power generation in the country as on 31 3.1996 was (b) the existing equity capital of OhGC IS Rs as follows, 1425.93 crores. (in MW) (c) and (d) Yes Sir, The details of ONGC shares disposed of by the Government by inviting bids from Total Hydel Thermal Nuclear financial institutions/mutual funds, etc , are given below . Capaclty Capaclty Capacity Capacrty Bids rnvited No ol shares Total amount Werghted 83287.96 20976.09 60086.87 2225 00 during sold realrsed average price reallsed

(b) and (c). The targets for energy generatlon in (Nos ) (Rs In crores) (Rs /shale1 billion units (Bus) as well as the Plant Load Factor for October, 1994 68.57.000 1051 53 1533 51 thermal B nuclear generatlon during 1995-96 was as (pre-bonus) (pre-bonusI under October, 1995 1.92.810 5 15 267 09 Category Energy Generation PLF(O,O) (pro-bonus) (pre.bonus I (BU) Target Actual Targel Actual (e) ONGC do not have a proposal at present to Thermal 297.0 299 6 62.3 63.0 make a publlc offering of shares. Nuclear 7.8 8.0 47.2 46 5 (f) Does not arlse. Hydel 72.3 725 Indo-Oman Pipeline Project Total 371 .I 380.1 '118 SHRI SANAT KUMAR MANDAL . WIII the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state fd, and (0). The fixed cost per unrt of electricity Increases wjth a reduction In the level of generation (a) the progfess made so far In the Indo-Oman slnce thrs cost 1s spread over a smaller quantum of submarine plpellne project for whlch $5 brilrori generatlon. However, with the increase in PLF of thermal commitment has been made by the Omanese stations whlch account for about 79% of total generation, Government, from 55 3% in 1991-92 to 63% In 1955-96,the cost (b) whether a delegallon comprlslng the ofl~c~alsof Increase on thls account has been mlnrmal. hrs M~nistryand Gas Authority of India Ltd (GAIL! recently vlslted Iran to discuss the Iranian offer to exporl liquifled natural gas (LNG),

fc) il SO, the outcome of the d~scussrons held Oil and Natural Gaa Corporation panlcularly In regard to the alternative of a deep.sea route lor Ihe pipelme, bklrllng the exclusive economlc '117 SHRI MOHAN RAWALE Wrll the PRIME zone (EEZ) of Paklstan In vlew of Pak~stan'sIntransigence MINISTER be pleased to state for over a year, whlch has resulted In the project havlng (a, whether it IS proposed to reduce Governments got bogged down; shareholdmg In the Oil and Natural Gas Corporatlon to Id) whether the lndlan team also made any study BOOc of Iran's ofler to export LNG and settlng up facrllt~es Ibj the amount of expanded equrty In the Oil and ~nvolvlngmasslve costs, and Natural Gas Corporat~on,

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4. Mullikapallo (ix) acquisltion of commercial immovable 5. Bhekulajan properties wlth repatrlatlon of investment benefit; and 6. Rajali gifting of two residential properties to a 7. Rungaliting (x) relative. 8. Tamulikhat

Two more discoveries namely Kizhvalur and N.S.A.P. Adavipalem are likely to be put on trial production by August' 96 and early 1997-98. 805. SHRlMATl VASUNDHARA RAJE : Will the The schedule of putting the balance structureslfields Minister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be on production would depend upon the result of further pleased to state : techno-economical evaluationlassessment. (a) the name of the States where the National Social As regards quatum of production likely to be Assistance Programme is being implemented; obtained from these new oiilgas fleldslstructures, the (b) since when such programmes are belng same can be firmed up after generation of field implemented and the main components of this production potential data to be established through programme; delineation drilling, trlai production data, assessment of (c) the funds allocated to different States during the recoverable reserves, petrophysical properties etc. last one year under the programme and the achievements made so far during tho said period; and NRI Invertment in Land (d) the steps taken to implement the programme effectively? 804. SHRI RAMCHANDRA VEERAPPA : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI (a) whether the Government propose to encourage CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) The National NRls to purchase land and investment in housing Social Assistance Programme (NSAP) is be~ng industry; implemented throughout the country. (b) if so, the details thereof; and (b) The NSAP is being implemented w~theffect from (c) if not, the reasons therefor? 15.8 1995 The three components of the NSAP are - THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (i) The National Old Age Pension Scheme URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER (ii) The Nat~onalFamily Benefit Scheme OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY (iii) The National Maternity Benefit Scheme AFFAIRS (DR. U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) to (cj. The Government has formulated a scheme for encouraging (c) The Statement regarding allocation of funds to non-residents of lndian nationalitylorigin to invest in the StatesIUTs during the last year 1995-96 alongwlth urban development and housing. The scheme is open the phys~caland financial progress ach~evedfor the to individuals as well as Overseas Corporate Bodies said period is attached. The States of Arunachal Pradesh, (OCBs) predominently-owned by non-residents of lndian Assam, Gujarat, Karnataka. Meghalaya, Rajasthan and natlonalitylorigin. The activities covered under the Union Territories of Andaman 8 N~cobarIslands, scheme as eligible for investment are Chand~garh,Lakshadweep, Pondichorry and NCT of Delhi have yet to send the~rreports. Development of serviced plots and construction of built-up residential premises; (d) The important steps taken for the effectwe implementation of the NSAP are :- real estate, covering construction of residential and commerc~al premises, Gu~delineshave been prepared including busmess centre8 and offices, Constnution of Advisory Committee on.NSAP development of townships; at the Central level city and regional-level urban Infrastructure Constitution of State and Dlstrict Level facilities, including roads and bridges; Commlnees to oversea the implementat~on of the programme. manufacturing of buildmg materials; Involvement of field level pubk functlonar~es participatory/collaborative ventures with and voluntary organisations and panchayats lndian builderslentrepreneurs in (I) to (v); Arrangements to monltor and evaluate the investments in Housing Finance Companies; programme. acquisition with repatriation of investment Publicity through thr prlnt and electron~c beneflt of residont~alpropertier upto a media to create awareners among the maxlmum of two such proportlor; people about the programme.

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[Transla tion] comprehensive and do not require any major modifications." Also, the Conditions of service of the LPG Agencies Central .Govt. employees are presently under consideration of the Flfth Central Pay Commission. There DR. SATYANARAYAN JATlA :Will the PRIME 806. Is, therefore, no proposal at present to review the Leave MINISTER be pleased to state : Rules to grant any extra facility. (a) the names of places in Madhya Pradesh for whlch advertisements for allocating LPG agencies STATEMENT appeared during the last three years; (b) the reasons for not setting up LPG agencies 31. Leave not due there so far; and '[(I)Save in the case of leave preparatory to (c) the location-wise details of inclusion of such retirement, leave not due may be granted to a places in marketing plan, advertisement and the dates Government servant in permanent employ or quasi. of ~ntsrview? permanent employ (other than a mllitary officer) limited THE MINISTER STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF to a maximum of 360 days during the entire servlce PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): on medical certificate subject to the followlng (a) to (c). During the last three years. 179 LPG conditions . distributorships were advertised in Madhya Pradesh by (a) the authority competent to grant leave 1s the Oil Marketing Companies. Interviews were completed satisfied that there is reasonable prospect of by the Oil Selection Board in 80 cases, out of whlch 58 the Government servant returning to duty on distributorships have already been commissioned. 99 its expiry; cases were reported pending with the Oil Selection (b) leave not due shall be llmlted to the hall-pay Board for conducting interviews. leave he is likely to earn thereafter; (c) leave not due shall be debited against the half-pay leave the Government servant may Grant of Full Pay Leave earn subsequently.] 807 SHRI RAM NAlK . Will the PRIME MINISTER (1-A) Leave not due may also be granted to such be pleased to state . of the temporary Government servants as are suffering from TB, Leprosy. Cancer or Mental illness, for a perlod (a) whether the Government of lndla IS aware that not exceeding 360 days durlng entire servlce, subject Government of Maharashtra grants full pay leave to to fulfilment 01 ~0nditl0n~In '[ clauses (a) to (c) of thelr employees for treatment of serious illness due to sub-rule (1) ] and subject lo the followlng conditions, T.B Cancer, Leprosy, Paralysis etc; namely :- (b) whether Government of India grants s~m~lar (i) that the Government servant has put In a fac~lityto thew employees: mlnlmum of one year's servlce, (c) if so, the details of Government order under (ii) that the post from whlch the Government whlch it IS granted, and servant proceeds on leave is likely to last 1111 (dj 11 not, whether the Government of lndla would h~sreturn to duty, and also conslder to grant the above facility to their (lii) that the request for grant of such leave IS employees' supported by a medlcal certlficale as THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF envisaged In clauses (c) and (d) of sub-rule PERSONNEL. PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (2) of Rule 32 AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (2)(a) Where a Government servant who has been PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S R granted leave not due resigns from setvlce BALASUBRAMONIYAN) la) The Government of lnd~a or at h~srequest permltled to rellre voluntar~ly does not monltor the servlce Rules of the State without returning to duty, the leave not due Governments However, a copy of the relevant rules of shall be cancelled, hls reslgnation or the Maharashtra Govt IS presently available with the retirement taklng effect from the date on whlch Department of Personnel 8 Trammg such leave had commenced, and the leave Ibi and fc) Extracts of Rules embodled In the salary shall be rocovered. Central CIVII Servlces (Leave) Rules. 1972 relatmg to ------.-. - the treatment of varlous illnesses (lncludlng T.B , Cancer 1 Subst~luledvrdo Q 1 , Depl of Per 6 Trg . Nollficahon No etc I are glven In the enclosed statement 11012/1185.1 E (I)dated the 6th June. 1988, publ~shed as Q S R No 476 In Ihr Oazettr of India, dated the fdj The Fourth Central Pay Commission had 18th June. 1988 and lake8 rflrct from the 18th June. observed that "The ex~stlngleave rules are quite 1888 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 5 0

(b) Where Government servant who having specialist recognised as such by the State availed himself ol leave not due returns to Adiministrative Medical Officer concerned and produces duty but resigns or retires from service before a certilicate signed by that specialist to the effect that he has earned such leave, he shall be liable he is under his treatment and that he has reasonable to refund the leave salary to the extent the chances of recovery on the expity of the leave 4 leave has not been earned subsequently : recommended. Prov~dedthat no leave salary shall be recovered (ii) tuberculosis of any other part of the body under clause (a) or clause (b) 11 the retirement IS by by a qualified tuberculosis specialist or a reason ol ill-health incapacitating the Government Civil Surgeon or Staff Surgeon; servant lor further servlce or in the event of his death: 0 r '[Prov~dedfurther that no leave salary shall be (iil) leprosy in a recognised leprosy institution recovered under clause (a) or clause (b), 11 the or by a Civil Surgeon or Staff Surglon or Government servant 1s compolsor~lyretlred prematurely a specialist in leprosy hospltal under Rule 48 (1) (b) of the Central Civ~lServlces recognised as such by the State (Pension) Rules, 1972, or IS retlred under Fundamental Admlnlstratlve Medical Officer concerned. Rule 56 (1) or Fundamental Rule 56 (I)] '(iv) Cancer or for mental illness, in an 32. Extraordinary leave lnstitut~onrecognlsed for the treatment of (1) Extraord~naryleave may be granted to a such disease or by a Civil Surgeon or Government servant (other than a mihtary offlcer) in Staff Surgeon or a specialst in such speclal clrcumstances disease twenty-four months, where the leave 1s fa) when no other leave IS adm~ssible required for the purpose of prosecuting ibl when other leave IS admlsslble, but the studies certified to be in the publ~cinterest, Government servant applles In wrltlng for the provided the Goverment servant concerned grant of extraordlnary leave has completed three year's continuous (2)Unless the Pres~dentIn vlew of the exce ~onal service on the date of explry of leave of the clrcumstances of the case otherwise determine no klnd due and admissible under these rules. Government servant, who IS not In permanent e ploy includmg three months' extraordlnary leave "I under clause (a). or quasi-permanent employ, shall be granted extrord~nary leave on any one occasion In excess of Where a Government servant IS granted the follow~ngI~m~ts - extraordinary leave In relaxallon of the three months' where the Government servant provisions contained in clause (e) of sub- has competed '[one year s continuous rule (2),shall be requrred to execute a bond servlce] on the date of expiry of leave of the in form 6 undertaking to refund to the k~nddue and admissible under these (a) and Government the actual amount of expenditure h~srequest for such leave 1s supported by Incurred by the Goverment dur~ngsuch leave a medical certlflcale as requ~redby these plus that incurred by any other agency wlth rules. interest thereon In the event of his not returnmg to duty on the explry of such leave Deleted. or qultlng the servlce before per~odot three e~ghteenmonths, where Government servant years after return to duty who has completed one year's contmuous The bond shall be supported by suretles from servlce IS undergomg treatment for- two permanent Government servants hav~ng (I) Pulmonary tuberculos~sor pleurlsy of status comparable to or h~gherthan that of tubercular orlgln, ~n a recognlsed the Government servant sanatorium. (4) Government servants belong~ngto the NOTE-The concession of extraordlnary leave up to Scheduled Castes or the Scheduled Tr~besmay, for tne elghteen months shall be admlsslble also to a purpose of attending the Pre-Exam~nat~on Government servant suffer~ngfrom pulmonary tuber culosls or plecurlsy ol tubercular orlgln who recelves 44. Special disability leave tor injury intentionally treatment at h~sres~dence under a tuberculos~s inflicted > .. ._._",.^_I______,..______-.-.. --- (1) The authority competent to grant leave may gr In1 1 Subst~luted, vrds G I D P & A R , Nol~flcat~onNo P speclal d~sabllltyleave to a Government servilnt 1101211177 E IV (A), dated the 21st November 1979 -- - .- 2 Deleled, v& G I . D P 6 A R , Nobficat~onNo P 1 lOl!li 1 Inserted vtde G I . D P 6 A R Nolrf~cat~onNo P 10:;' i 77.E IV (A) dated tho 2161 Novrmbe~ 1979 77.E. IV (A), dated me 21st November. 1979 Writton Answrrs JULY 17, 1996 Wrltton Answora 52

(whether permanent or temporary) who is disabled by In the case of a perron to whom the Injury intentlonally inflicted or caused in or In Employees' State Insurance Act, 1948 (34 of consequence of the due performance of his official duties 1948) applles, the amount of leave -salary or in consequence of his official poslion. payable under thls rule shall be reduced by the amount of benefit payable under the said (2) Such leave shall not be granted unless the Act for the corresponding period. disability manitested ifself within three months of the occurrence to which it is attrlbuted and the person The provisions of this rule shall also apply- disabled acted with due promptitude in bringing it to to a Civll Government servant disabled notice : in consequence of servlce with a military Provided that the authorlty competent to grant leave force, If he discharged as unfit for furlher may, if it is satisfied as to the cause of the disability, mllitary servlce, but Is not completely and permit leave to be granted in cases where the disability parmanently lncapacltated for furlher clvil manifested itself more than three months after the service; and occurrence of its cause. (ii) to a clvll servant not so discharged who (3) The period of leave granted shall be such as is suffers a disablllty which is certified by a certified by an Authorised Medical Attendant and shall medical board lo be direclly attributable in no case exceed 24 months. to his service with a military force. (b) In either case, any period of leave granted to (4) Special disability leave may be combined with such a person under mllitary rules in respect leave of any other kind. of that disability shall be reckoned as leave (5) Special disability leave may be granted more granted under this rule for the purpose of than once if the disability is aggravated or reproduced calculating the period admissible. in similar circumstances at later date, bul not more Train~ng Course at the centres notified by the tham 24 months of such leave shall be granted in Government from time to time, be granted extraordinary consequence of any one disability. leave by head of Department In relaxation of the (6) Special disability leave shall be counted as provisions of sub-rule (2). duty in calculating service for pension and shall nol, (5) Two spells of extraordinary leave, If intervened except the leave granted under the provison to clause by any other kind of leave, shall be treated as one (b) of sub-rule (7), be debited against the leave account. continuous spell of extraordinary leave for the purposes (7) Leave salary during such leave shall, - of sub-rule (2). (a) for the first 120 days of any period of such (6) The authority competent to grant leave may leave including a period of such leave commute retrospectively periods of absence without leave into extraordinary leave. granted under sub-rule (5), be equal to leave salary while on earned leave, and 45. Sprclrl dirrbillty Irrvr for rccidentrl Injury (b) for the remaining period of any such leave, (1) The provisions or Rule 44 shall apply also lo a be equal to leave salary during half-pay Government servant whether permanent or temporary. leave : who is dirabled by injury accidentally incured In, or In Prov~dedthat a Government servant may, at his consequence of, the due pedormance of his offlc~al optlon, be allowed leave salary as in sub-rule (a) for a dutier or in conrequence of hi8 official porilion, or by period not exceedlng another 120 days, and In the illners incurred in the performrnce of any particular event the period of such leave shall be debited to his duty, which has the effect of increrring hi8 liability to half pay leavo account. illnos8 or Injury beyond the ordlnary risk attaching lo the clvil port which hr hold&. NOTE-Leave salary in respect of rpecirl disabllily leave granted to a Government servant who ha8 ? (2) The grant of rpecial dlrablllty leave In ruch rervlce under more than one Government may be cam shall be rubjrct lo lhr further conditionr- apponioned between the Government accordance with that thr dirrblllty, H dur to dlrerrr, murt be the normal ruler. cerllfird by rn Authorirrd Mrdlcal Anandanl In the case of a perron to whom the lo be directb due to the prdormrncr of the particulrr duty; workmen'r Compensation Act. 1823 (0 of 1823) applirr, the amount of leave ralary that, if tha Qovernment rrrvrnt ha6 payable under thrr rule shall be reduced by conlrrctrd ruch dirrblllty durlng wrvlce the amount of compensrtion payable under othrtwirr thrn wnh r mllltrry forcr, It mull claure (d) of rub.rection (I) of rectbn 4 of be, In the oplnlon of thr authority cornpotant to the raid Act. ranctbn lrrvr, rxcrptlonrl in chrrrctrr; and Wrltton Answers ASADHA 26, 1018 (Srka) Writton Ans wors 54

that the period of absence recommended by leave salary equal to full pay for a period not exceeding an Authorlsed Medical Attendant may be six weeks: covered in pan, by leave under this rule and Provided that such leave shall not be granted if a In part by any other kind of leave, and that Government medical officer certifies that the Government the amount of special disability leave servant Is malignering or that his Ill-health is due to granted on ~eavesalary equal to that drunkenness or similar self-indulgence or to his own admissible on earned leave shall not exceed action in wlfully causing or aggravating disease or injury. 120 days. (2) A seaman disabled in the exercise of his duty may be allowed leave on leave salary equal to full pay 46. Hospltal lravr for a maximum period not exeeding three months, ll the ' (1) The authority competent to grant leave may grant following condition8 are fuliilled, namely :- . hospital leave to- (a) a Government ~edical'Officer must certity (a) Class IV Government servants, and the disability; (b) such Class Ill Government servents whose (b) the disability must not be due to the seaman's duties involve the handling of dangerous own carelesness or inexperience; machinery, explosive materials, poisonous (c) the vacancy caused by his absence must not drugs and the like, or the pedormance of be filled. hazardous tasks, (3) (a) In the case of a person to whom the while under medical treatment In a hospital or otherwise, Workmen's Compensatlon Act, 1923 (8 of tor illness or Injury If ruch illness or Injury Ir directly 1923) applies, the amount of leave salary due to risks incurred in the course of their official duties. payable under thls rule shrll'be reduced by (2) Horpital leave shall be granted on the production the amount of companration payabla under of medical certificate from an Authorlsed Medlcal clause (d) of sub-section (1) of Section 4 of Attendant. the sald Act. (3) Hospital leave may be granted for such period (b) In the care of a perron to whom the as the suthortty grantlng it may conrlder necessary, on Employees' State Insurance Act, 1940 (34 of leave salary- 1948) applies, the amount of leave salary payable under this rule shall be reduced by (i) equal to leave salary while on earned leave the amount of benefit payabla under the said for the flrst 120 days of any period of such Act for the corresponding penod. leave; and (i~)equal to leave salary during half-pay leave, Tribal Farmars for the remaining period of any such leave. (4) Hospltal ieave shall not be deblted against the 808. SHRI MANIKRAO HODLYA GAVlT : Will the leave account and may be combined with any other Minister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMEN? be kmd ot leave which may be admissible, provided the pleased to state : total per~odof ieave, after such combination does not (a) whether the Union Government have sought exceed 28 months. report from the State Government of Maharashtra (5) (a) In the case of a person to whom the regarding the cases of indebtedness and settlement of Workmen's Compensation Act, 1923 (8 of the persons involved particularty the tribal farmers of 1923) applies, the amount of leave salary the State; and payable under this rule shall be reduced by (b) U so, the details thereof and relief provided to the amount of compensation payable under them? clause (a) of sub-section(i) of sectlon 4 of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF the said Act. RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI (b) In the case of person to whom the employees' CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) No such report State Insurance Act, 1948 (34 of 1948) has been called by the Union Government from the applies, the amount of leave salary payable State Government of Maharashtra. under this rule shall be reduced by the (b) Question does not arise. amount of benefit payable under the said Act for the corresponding period DRD A

(1) A Government servant servlng as an officer, 809. DR. JAYANTA RONGPI , Will the Minister of warrant officer or petty officer on a Government vessel RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state may, whila undergoing medical treatment for rickness (a) whether DRDA functions are antrusted to Z~la or inlury, either on his vessel or In hosplal, be granted Parishads and Autonomous Councils in certaln States, Iaave, by an authority competent to grant leave, on and

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region and power generation capacity of each such The power generation capacities of projects both project, both excuted and stlll under execution; and executed and still under execution during the last three (d) when the Sewa Hydel Project was taken up for as under :- execution and amount spent so far on it the time Upper Sindh Hydel 105 MWs (Under schedule fixed at the time of launching of the project Project Slage-ll (Kmr) executlon) and its estimated cost? C Small Hydel Projects in THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Kashrnir e.g. Pahalgam PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (2 MW) Machil (0.35 AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF MW), Asthan Nallah PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. (1 05 MW) BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) The following major Hydel Small Hydel Projocl Project have been identified in J 8 K on Chenab in Jamrnu region e g rlver :- Chenanl-ll (2 MW). Chenani-Ill (7.5 MW) ~.NO.Name of Project Capaclty ~n MWs Sewa-Ill (9 00 MW) Stage-l Stage-ll Total and Baderwah (1 MW) Salal HEP 345 Parna Hydel Project Bulhasti HEP 390 In Jammu Sawalkote HEP 600 Sewell Hydel Project Baghllhar HEP 4 50 In Jammu. Rattle HEP 170 SmalllM~niHydel Projects 22 5 MW -do- Pakaldul HEP 1000 In Leh & Kargil e g. Sanjak (1.26 MW) Bursar HEP 1020 Hattal (1.00 MW) Naunatoo Nalgarh Merpacho (0 75 MW) HEP 400 Igo-rnerchillong (3 00 MW) Klrthal Naunatoo Dumkar (4 50 MW) HEP 750 Chutak (12 00 MW) lqbal Bridge MHP (3 75 4 55 MW (2 05 MW MW) Hunder. Sumoor 6 capacity Bargo (0 8 MW) CO~~ISS- (b) None of the above projects has been taken up lonod) for executlon by the State Govt The amount spent in Gas Turb~ne Project 100 MWs Comrn~ss- the Central Sector by NHPC lor execution of the Kashmir (Phase-ll) ornd tollow~ngpower projects is Indicated below :- -- - - Besides the above projects, the following main Amount spent by generation projects belong~ngto the State are In end of June 1996 operation for the past many years - (Rs In crores) .- (i) Lower Jehlum HEP (Kashmir) 105 MWs 1 Salal HE Project St-l (345 MW) 651 48 (ii) Upper Smdh HEP Stage4 22.5 MWs 2 Salal HE Project St41 (345 MW) 258 07 (iii) Ganderbal HEP (Kashmir) 15 MWs 3 Dulhasl~HE Project St-l (390 MW) 1412 56 (iv) Chenanl HEP Stage-l 24 MWs 4 Baghhar HE Project (450 MW) 17 16 (Under Jamrnu 5 Snwalkol HE Project (600 MW! 8 64 transfer (v) Gas Turbine Phase-l 8 75 MWs to State Phase-ll Kashmlr Govt ) -. . - . - . - - (d) Sewa Project is proposed to be executed rn Other projects are yet to be taken up three stages Stage-Ill of the Project was taken up for (c) The total expendlture on power sector lor the execution with an installed capacity of 9 00 MWs In State dur~ngthe last three years IS as under - 1992. It IS targened to be commlssloned In 1997-98 Rs 174 56 crores The or~gmalestimated cost ol the project was Rs, 16 92 crores which has been rev~sedto Rs 43 00 crores The Rs 259.31 crores expenditure ending 3/96 IS Rs. 27 19 crores Stage-ll of Rs 290 60 crores the Project envlsages an installed capacity ot 120 MWs The regionwise break-up of these expendlture The orlginal estimated cost of Stage4 was Rs 178 00 figures are not malntalned by the State Government. crores wh~chhas been rev~sedto Rs 325 00 crores 59 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Wrltten Anawrrs 6 0

Expenditure incurred on infrastructural works of the D.D.A. Flrta Project ending 3/96 was Rs. 34.54 crores. The infrastructural works on the Project were staned In 1990 814. SHRi UDAYSINGRAO GAIKWAD : Will the and the schedule for completion was 6 years. However, PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : on account of paucity of resources, the project has (a) whether D.D.A. In 1979 had launched soms been proposed tor private participation. The revised New Pattern HUDCO scheme of flats; target tor Its completion in 2002-03.Stages4 is yet to be fully investigated. (b) If so, the details thereof with areas and cost fixed under scheme, category-wise; Power Projecta (c) whether some flats under the scheme have since been allotted; 813. SHRl GULAM RASOOL KAR : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (d) H so, the details thereof locality and category- wise and draw-wise; (a) the number of power projects clearedlawaiting clearance of the Union Government for the S!ate of (e) whether the Government propose to allot more Jammu 8 Kashmir; such flats in future during 1996 and 1997 by holding more draws; and (b) the amount of power being supplied through National Grid to J 8 K; (f) if so, the details thereof and If not, the reasons (c) the steps being taken to expedite the clearance therefor? of power projects and ensure regular power supply to THE MINISTER OF' STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF the citizens; URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER (d) the tunds allocated, project-wlse; and OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (DR. U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) and (b). DDP (e) the tlme by which these projects are llkely to be has reported that a Scheme tltled New Pattern clearrd? Registration Scheme was launched In 1979 tor allotment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF of Janta, LIG & MIG flats. The amount of registration POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY deposit, plinth area and tentative cost indicated In the OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. brochure of the scheme was as under :- VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (c) to (0). There are three cleared ongoing Schemes in Jammu & Kashmir. Cato- Plinth Arm Tentatlvr Amt of rog~strel~on The details are as follows - WY Cost (Rs ) deposit (Re ) --- S No. Name of the Scheme Capacity Funds GEN SCfST (MW) allocated for MIG 60-65 Sqm 42.0001- 45001 3500)- 1995-96 LIG about 39 Sqrn 18.0001- 15001- 12001. fRs. In crores) Janta Upto 24 Sqm 8.0001 2501- 200'. 1. Upper Sindh-ll 2x35 35 0 2 Pampore-ll GT 4x25 6 0 (c) Yes, Sir. 3 Upper Sindh-ll Extn 1x35 5.0 (d) Flats are allotted through araw of lots held from time to time Category-wise number of allotments made Three Schemes namely New Ganderbal HEP 13x15 under this scheme upto 31/3/96 is as under : MW), Parkhachik Panikhar St 18 11 HEP (5x12 MW) and U~IHEP St II (Ph-I) (4x70 MW) are under exammatton MIG LIG Janta in Central Electricity A~thor~ty. 30769 48702 58276 The project authorities have been requosted to furntsh additional informat~on/clartficationsought by the The local~t~es,In whch there flats are located arcr Central Electricity Authority. The status of these projects glven In the attached statement. is berng monitored regularly by the Mintstry of Power (e) and (1). There are 31,204 reglslrants under this and Central Electricity Authority to expedite the Scheme to whom tlats are yet to be allotted. Keeplng clearances Periodic discusstons are held with the In vtew the constraints of availability of land and project authorit~es/promoters In this regard provlsion of services by other agencies, DDA plans to (b) The amount of power actually drawn by the allot flats to all the awalting registrants of the Scheme- Jammu 8 Kashmlr State from the Central Sector durlng withln a perlod of two years However, no registrants the months of April to May. 1996 was 412.0 MU as 01 Janta category is now awaiting allotmenl of flats agalnst the entitlement of 559.8 MU. under thls scheme % 6 1 Writtm Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 62

STATEMENT Conrtruction and Development Work In Conrtituencier Rohini 2. Narela Bindapur 4. Janakpuri 816. SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT : Will the Dwarka 6. Nasirpur Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME Madipur 8. Hastsal IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to State : Lawrance Road 10. Pul Pahladpur (a) Whether Members of Parliament have been Mayapuri 12 Paschim Vihar authorised to carry out construction and developmental Vasant Kunj 14. Kalkaji works in their respective constituencies by makmg recommendations under the Member of Parliament Local S~dharfhEnclave 16. Rajouri Garden Area Development Scheme (MPLADS); Shalimar Bagh 18 Motia Khan Sarai Khalil 20 Pitampura (b) whether the administration has ordered tor suspending such developmental works recommended Jahang~rpuri 22. Madanpur Khadar and approved under the above authority of the Members Jasola 24 East of Loni Road of Parliament during the period from January, 96 to Jafrabad 26 Mansarovar Park May' 96: Nand Nagr~ 28. Jhtlmd (c) it so, since when and the reasons therefor Dllshad Garden 30 Tr~lokpuri Mayur Vihar 32 Kondl~Gharoh (d) whether the authority of the Members of Ashok Vihar 34 Jai Dev Park Parliament tor making recommendations for conducting works has also been withdrawn: Vikaspur~ 36 Hari Nagar C hdla Village 38 Khirk~ (e) li so, since when and the reasons therefor: Dakshm Purl 40. Sarita Vihar (1) whether the Government propose to restore the Badarpur 42 Toda Pur said scheme soon tor the newly elected Members ot Posang~pur 44 Mangla Purl Parhament; and Kalu Saral 46 Adhchm~ (g) if not, the reasons therefor? Basant Gaon 48 Panchsheel THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Peera Garh~ 50 Gaz~pur PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND Raghub~rNagar 52 Shastrl Park MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K ALAGH) (a) Jawahar Rozgar Yoiana-ll Under the Member of Parliament Local Area Development Scheme (MPLADS), each Member of 815 PROF RASA SlNGH RAWAT Will the Parliament (MP) has the cholce to suggest to the Dlstrlct M~n~sterof RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be Collector works to the tune ot Rs. one crore per year to pleased to state be taken up In hlslher constituency/chosen distrlct as per the guidel~nesof the scheme Based on the (a) the reasons tor slopplng grants to the States recommendat~onsmade by the MP, the works are to be under Jawahar Rozgar Yolana-ll stream, got implemented by the concerned Collector through (b) the exact date when the grants was stopped, Government agencles by tollowlng established (c) whether requests regarding revtval of Jawahar procedures. Rozgar Yolana-ll stream have been recelved from State (b) and (c). No instructlons suspending the works Government, and under the scheme trom January, 1996 onwards had (d) ~t so, the details thereol and action taken been Issued However, instructions were Issued to al! thereon? the Collectors, wno were advised not to take up the execution of new works from 19th March, 1996 onwards THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF because of the following reasons : RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) . (a) and (b) The (i) The Model Code of Conduct for elect~ons Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY)-IIstream has been merged came Into force with eftect lrom 19.3.1996. w~ththe Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) trom (ii) In the Writ Petition Number of 1996 1.1 1996 and uncovered blocks ot JRY-II stream distr~cts 8200 has been covered under the EAS filed by Shri K.V.S. Murlhy, tho Andhra Pradesh High CouR had directed the Eleclmn (c) No, Sir Commission to Issue necessary instructions (d) Does not arlso. forthwith to reslrain all the MPs both Lok 63 Writfm Answers JULY

Sabha and Rajya Sabha from spendlng out (I) Integrated Rural Development Programme of the fund of Rs. 1 crore under the rcheme (IRDP), a Centrally Sponsored Scheme Is until the electlons were over. The Electlon belng implemrnted In all the block8 of the Commission, accordingly, Issued Instructions country. It alms at provlding relf-employment on 28.4.1996 directing the Chlef Electoral opportunitier to the rural poor through Officers to bring to the notlce of all the MPs assistance In the form of subsldy and bank the contents of the Andhra Pradesh Hlgh credil to enable them to acquire productive Court Order for Information and strict assets and approprlate rkllls to cross the compliance. poverty llne on a sustained basls. The target (iii) Certain pollcy measures had to be taken group conslsts largely of small and marginal especially with regard to matters pertaining farmerr, agricultural labourers and rural to the period of translion between dissolution artisans whose annual income is below the poverty Ilne. Within the target group there is of the Tenth Lok Sabha and the constitution of the Eleventh Lok Sabha. The Collectors an ensured coverage of 50% for SClST were, therefore, advised not to take up new families. works for execution pending a policy (ii) The Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY) decision in the aforesaid matters. programme is a wage employment programme which is being implemented (d) The scheme has not been discontinued. In tact, throughout the country since 1989 wllh the all the Collectors have been requested to contact the basic objective of generating additional newly elected MPs from their districts and inform them gainful employment for the unemployed and about the details of the scheme and make them familiar under-employed persons in the rural areas with the guidelines. and also to strengthen rural infrastructure (8) to (g). The question does not arise. and assets in favour of the rural poor. Under this programme preference is given to SC/ ST. Poverty Alleviation Programmer (iii) The Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) was launched on 2nd October, 1993 in 1752 817. SHRl K.P. SlNGH DEO : identified backward blocks situated In drought SHRl SOUMYA RANJAN : prorne, desert, tribal and hill areas, in which the revamped public distribution system was Will tho Mmister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME in operatton. The EAS has now been IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state extended to cover 3206 blocks of the country (a) the details of various poverty alleviation in ail States and UTs excluding Goa, Punjab. programmes being implemented. implemented for the Chandigarh, Delhi and Pondicherry, Of these benefit of Scheduled Tribes In rural areas under the 11 15 blocks covered under the Integrated E~ghthFlve Year Plan; Tribal Development Project (ITDP) and 133 blocks are under the Modifted Area (b) the allocation made for the same, and the Development Approach (MADA) having a expenditure incurred thereon. State-wtse; larger concentration of tribal populat~on (c) whether any target has been flxed under the Under this scheme assured employment tor programmes; 100 days of unskilled manual work has to be provkhd lo those who are seeking it, durmg (d) II so, the progress made in this regard so lar; the lean agricultural season. The secondary and objective is the creat~onof rural infrastructure (e) the number of beneftciarles, State-wise? and community assets THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (b) There is no rpecific allocation made tor PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND Scheduled Triber under there poverty alleviat~on MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE programmes, AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K ALAGH) : (a) (c) There ir no specltk target fixed lor Scheduled The major poverty alleviat~onprogrammes being Triber under there poverty alleviation programmes, implemented in the rural areas of the country during the E~ghthFive Year Plan are (i) Integrated Rural (d) Doer not arlre. Developmen? programme (IRDP); (ii) Jawahar Rozgar (e) The Statewise coverage of Scheduled Tribes Yojana IJRY) and Employment Arsurance Scheme undy these poverly allrviation programmer during the (EAS) These programmes also cwer the Scheduled flr-our year8 of the Elghth Plan (1.0. 188243 lo 1995- Tribes. 96) ir ghren in the attached rtrtrment. 65 Wrlttrn Anrwrrs ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sakr) Wrlttrn Anrworr 66

Integrated Rural Development Programme (No, of families assisted) 1992-93 1993-04 1994-05 1995-96 (Prov.) (Prov. )

Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Assam Bihar Goa Gujaral Haryana Hlmachal Pradesh Jammu 8 Kashm~r Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Manipur Meghalaya M~zoram Nagaland Or~ssa Punlab Rajasthan S~kkrm Tam~lnadu Tr~pura Utlar Pradesh West Bengal A 6 N Islands Chandigarh D 6 Have11 Daman & DIU Delhi Lakshadweep --Pond~cherry -- Tol a l 30381 6 432734 332887 302393 67 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Wrltten Anowors 68

Jawahar Rozgar Yojana S.No. States1U.T~ (Employment generated In Lakh mandays).

1992-93 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 (Prov.) (Prov.)

Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Assam Bihar Goa Gujarat Haryana Himachal Pradesh Jarnmu 8 Kashmir Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Manipur Meghalaya Mizoram Nagaland Orissa Punjab Rajasthan Sikkim Tamilnadu Tripura Uttar Pradesh West Bengal A & N Islands Chandigarh D 8 Haveli Daman 8 Diu Delhi Lakshadweep Pondicherry - Total 1445.51 1749.84 1413.77 1448.81 6 9 Written Answers ASADHA 26, 1018 (Saka) Written Answers 70

lnteiified Jawahar Rozgar Yojana Employment Assurance Scheme -- (Employment Generated in (Employment Generated in Lakh mandays) Lakh mandays) S.No. States1U.T~ 1993-94 1994-95(P) 1995.96 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 -- (Prov.) (Prov.) !PI (Prov ) 1 2 11 12 13 14 15 16 Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Assam Bihar Goa Gujarat Haryana Hlmachal Pradesh Jammu 8 Kashmir Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Manipur Meghalaya Mizoram Nagaland Orissa Punjab Rajasthan S~kkim Tamilnadu Tripura Uttar Pradesh West Bengal A B N Islands Chandigarh D & Haveli Daman B Diu Delhi Lakshadweep Pondicherry

Total 191.00 570.90 217.67 132.15 91 1.48 980.86 The (JRY) and (EAS) were launched in 1993-94 7 1 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 72

Clearance to New Power Projects THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY 818. SHRl SURESH KALMADI : OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) to (c). 14 private sector DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOl : projects aggregatlng to 7706 MW and 15 state and central seclor projects aggregating lo 8477 MW are Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to currently under various stages 01 examination in the state : Central Electricity Authority (CEA). The details of the projects are given in the attached statement. The techno (a) whether several Power Projects are awaiting economic clearance of these projects by CEA are for the clearance of the Central Electricity Authority pending, for various inputs from the project authorities, (CEA); which cover statutory and other clearances from the State and central agencies, additional information on (b) if so, the details thereof; and project costs and financial packages, fuel and other linkages, environment clearances and detailed project (c) the steps taken for their expeditious clearance? report from the promoters of the project.

STATEMENT List of Power Projects under examination by the Central Electricity Authority for accord of techno-economic clearance

S.No. Name of the Project Capacity (MW)

StaWCentral Sector Schemes (as on 30 6.1996) HYDRO Jammu 8 Kashmir 1 New Ganderbat HEP 2 Parkhachik Panikhar St. 1 8 St. II HEP 3 Url HEP St. II (Ph I) (PDC. J 8 K Govt) Maharashtra 1 Chikaldara HEP (Pumped Storage Scheme) 2x200

1 S~ndolHEP THERMAL Gularat 1 Ghoga L~gniteTPS !GPCL) 2 P~pavavGTPP (GPCL) 3 Coastal TPS (GPCL) Maharashtra 1 Uran GTPP Extn (MSEB) 400 Andhra Pradesh 1 Slmhadrl TPS (NTPCj 2 Hyderabad Metro CCGT S1 I (NTPC) Karnataka 1 Yelanka DGPP Extn (KEB) EASTERN REGION I Malfhon R/B TPS (DVC) 2 Mej~aTPS-II (WC) 3 Talcher STPP-I1 (NTPC) - -. 73 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1910 (Saka) Wrinen Answers 74

HYDRO Himachal Pradesh 1. Karcham Wangtoo HEP (MIS. Jai Prakash Ind. Ltd.) 2 Malana HEP (MIS. Rajasthan Spinning & Weaving Mill) Uttar Pradesh 1 Vishnuprayag HEP (MIS. JIL) 2 Srlnagar HEP (MIS duncans Ind. Ltd.) THERMAL Haryana 1 Yamunanagar TPS (Mls. Yamunanagar Power Co. Ltd.) Uttar Pradesh 1 Rosa TPP (Ph I) (Mls. Indo-Gulf Fertilizers and Chemicals Corpn. Ltd.). Gujarat 1 Jamnagar (Near Sikka) TPP Ph-l (MIS. Reliance Power Ltd.) 2. Surat Lignite TPP (MIS GIPCL) 2x125 ' Madhya Pradesh 1 Korba (West) TPP Extn (MIS, lnd~aThermal Power Ltd. promoted by MIS. Mukand Ltd.) 2x21 0 2. Korba (East) TPS !MIS. Daewoo Power (India Ltd ) 2x525 Maharashtra 1 Patalganga CCPP (MIS Reliance Patalganga Power Pvt. Ltd.) 410 Andhra Pradesh 1 Vlzag TPS (Hlnduja National Power Corpn Ltd, promoted by Mls. Ashok Leyland Ltd. lndla and MIS. National Power PLC U K.) 2x520 2 Rarnagundarn Extn. (MIS BPL Power Project) (A.P Ltd.) 2x260 Orissa 1 Dubrl TPP (MIS Kallnga Power Corpn. Ltd.) 2x250

modify the proposal based on the comments of Central Sewerage Diaporal Scheme Public Health & Environmental Engineering 819 SHRlMATl SUMITRA MAHAJAN : Will the Organisation (CPHEEO) and resubmit the same tor PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state technical clearance. The State Government was last remanded in the manor in December, 1995. No financ~al (a) whether the Madhya Pradesh Government has assistance is provided by Central Government for such submitted any sewerage d~sposalscheme for lndore schemes. City to Central Government lor clearance; (b) 11 so, whelher any financial assistance is provlded by the Central Government to such schemes; Operatlon of Scheme, and Project8 and (c) ~f so, the details thereof? 820. SHRl AJlT KUMAR PANJA :Will the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF be pleared to state . URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY (a) the projects and schemes operating in various AFFAIRS (DR U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) to (c). The States and Union Terrbries for which hundred percent Government of Madhya Pradesh has submitted Central assistance is providad; sewerage and sewage disposal scheme for lndore town In December, 1990 tor technical clearance. The State (b) the fund released in this regard from 1981-92 Public Health Englneering Department was asked to to lQQ5-96,project-wise, StalrRlnion Terrdory-wise;

77 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 78

I -states M.S. H.S.D. S.K.O. 1 2 3 4 Chandigarh 37.2 43 8 17.9 Nagaland 10.57 12.60 28.75 Delhi 407.7 924.8 241.2 Tripura 5.89 23.32 32 74 '~ar~ana 132.2 1220 1 157.6 Arunachal Pradesh 16.20 11 94 59 42 Himachal Pradesh 25 7 148 1 38.8 Mizoram 6.08 7.04 17 77 Jammu & Kashmlr 45.9 201 7 106.1 Bihar 156.04 607 97 1564.25 Punjab 285.1 1599.1 335.0 Orissa 72.22 222.19 627 47 Rajasthan 160.4 1778.8 306.6 West Bengal 158.58 816.04 1644 49 Uttar Pradesh 362 0 3642 6 1025.4 Sikkim 4.56 10.17 8.51 Assam 51 7 349 4 256.5 Andman 8 Nikobar 2.35 5.08 44.22 Arunachal Pradesh 14 9 54 8 12.7 Goa 32.06 28.27 171 33 Manlpur 8.9 21 5 22.3 Gujarat 393.13 81 1.80 2401 16 Meghalaya 15.7 78 5 16.4 Madhya Pradesh 21 5.85 481 34 1922.03 Mlzoram 5.2 17 1 6.4 Maharashtra 719.73 1545.25 3814 67 Nagaland 10 5 24.9 11.2 Dadra 8 Nagar Hav. 3.50 3 11 38 65 Trlpura 5 4 31 8 22 3 Daman 8 DIU 2.97 3.16 9 04 S~kkim 4 9 14 9 11.9 Andhra Pradesh 314.38 61 3.80 2863 64 Blhar 1447 14573 558.7 Kerala 205.68 291.42 1176.21 Orlssa 63 2 578 9 197 1 Tamil Nadu 336 64 683 52 2866 63 West Bengal 1494 15211 753 2 Karnataka 316 17 493 56 1774 02 Andaman 2 4 34 9 4 8 Lakshadeep .20 17 Ma harashtra 6256 31936 1514.2 Pondicherry 12 09 14 84 106 18 Gujarat 329 6 1927 3 807.8 Madhya Pradesh 191 5 16628 447 3 The f~guresare prov~s~onal Goa 28 1 164 8 29.2 Daman 2 0 7 4 1.5 Dadra B Nagar Have11 2 7 22 9 3 1 Poverty Line DIU 0 4 17 1.4 822. SHRl KACHARU BHAU RAUT . .. Tam11 Nadu 291 9 2447 1 666 6 SHRl RAM TAHAL CHOUDHARY Kerala 1743 10568 272 4 , SHRI RAM NAlK . Pondlcherry 9 7 82 2 14 6 SHRl RAMENDRA KUMAR . Ka~nataka 2744 1516 1 461.5 SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV . Andhra Pradesh 2684 24149 599.3 SHRl MAHESH KUMAR M KANODIA - .-.. StatelUnlon Territory M S S.K 0 HSD SHRl DATTA MEGHE ..-- Will the Minster of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME 1 2 3 4 -. - --- IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state : Jammu 8 Kashmlr 45 99 124.99 195 04 (a) the criteria laid down to determine the povery Punlab 31326 35258 176641 Ilne. Ralasthan 195 71 329 51 2142.60 (b) the estimated number of people llvlng below the Uttar Pradesh 394 60 1092 19 3700.20 poverty line. State-wiseIUn~onTerritory-wse. Haryana 148 98 164 60 1350 86 (c) the total amount spent during the last flue years H~machalPradesh 26 09 37 08 169 99 till date to bring people above the poverty Itne, includmg the number ot such benehciartes, Chand~garh 42 42 19.57 52.56 J Delhl 436.37 240.23 1152.76 (d) whether the amount for the above purpose has been misused and if so, the detalls thereot and the 265.92 353.20 Assam 5481 reasons therefor, Manlpur 9 16 22.19 23.85 (e) the details of the strategy chalked out to 17 89 16.97 88 A8 Meghalaya .- eradicate poverty: and -.... ,-- 79 Written Answers JULY 17, 1896 Wrltten Answers 80

(1) the time by which this poverty monster Is likely to be tamed ? THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF Jammu 6 Kashmlr PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATIONAND Karnataka MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE Kerala AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) : (a) Madhya Pradesh The Poverty line in lndia is based on the Maharashtra recommendations of the Task Force on Projections of Minimum Needs and Effective Consumption Demand, Orlssa which submitted its report in 1979. The poverty line is Punjab defined as the per capita monthly expenditure required Rajasthan for an average consumption basket tor 1973-74 which Tamil Nadu would provide calorie requirements of 2400 calories Unar Pradesh per person per day in rural areas and 2100 calories per West Bengal person per day in urban areas. (b) The latest estimates of State-wise number of All India 2014.06 people below poverty line for the year 1987-88 is given NB. (i) Tho numbmr of persons Mow poverty llnr rrletes in enclosed statement. to the population as on 1st October. 1987 (c) During the year 1990-91 to 1995-96, an amount (ii) The results are based on National Sample Survey of Rs. 4469.69 crores has been spent under lntegrated on conrumor oxprndituro rrlatlng to 43rd round Rural Development Programme (IRDP) benefitting (~uly1887-~uno 1888). 110 92 lakh families. Under Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY) and Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS), Rs. [English] 17986.77 crores and Rs. 3128 87 crores have been spent generating an employment of 44646.75 lakh LPG Agencier mandays and 6669.89 lakh mandays respectively. 823. SHRI E. AHAMED (d) No. Sir. SHRI MULLAPPALLY RAMACHANDRAN (e) The strategy to eradicate poverty is based on a Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state three pronged attack, i.e; (I) acceleration of economic (a) the number of agencies tor openlng of petrol growth: (ii) human and soclal development through pumps/LPG sanctioned In each distrct of Kerala durtng literacy, educat~on,health. nutrition. meeting the each of last three years, mlnlmum needs, upgradation of social and economic status of the weaker sectlons of the soc~etyetc and (iii) (b) the exsting number of LPG agencies in Kerala direct anach on poverty through various programmes in each district; such as lntegrated Rural Development Programme (c) whether the new LPG agencies are likely to be (IRDP). Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JAY) and Employment finalised durlng the current year: and Assurance Scheme (EAS) (d) W so. the details thereof? (1) The target date for the eradication of poverty will THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF be determined in the exercises relatmg to the lormulat~on PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T R BAALU) of the Nlnth Five Year Plan (a) During the 3 year period, lrom 1993-94 to 1995-96. 38 Retail Outlet dealerships and 32 LPG d~stributorshtps STATEMENT have been allotted In Kerala State-wise Number of Peopk Below fbverty (b) As on 1 4.1996, there wore 192 LPG Line in 7987.88 distributorships functioning in Kerala (c) and (d). 48 LPG d~rtributorrhipr have been S.No. States No of people below Included In the LPG Marketing Plan 1894-96 for Kersla poveny line (Lakhs) [Translation]

1 Andhra Praderh 165.16 2 Assam 37.44 + 3 Bihar 278.12 824. SHRI HARIVANSH SAHAI Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : 4 Gujarat 56 12 5 Haryana 14.24 (a) whether there 18 any proporal to set-up sub. power rlatlons In Bhagalpur, Bhulbant and Brnkata 6 Hlmachal Pradesh 3.49 block of Devarir dlrtrict In Unrr Prrderh; Wrltton Answers ASADHA 26, 1911 (Saka) Wrltten Answers 82

(b) if so, the details thereof; and electricity is consumed by industry and agriculture sector (c) the time by which the sub-power stations are in the country; likely to be installed? (b) if so, the percentage of total generation THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF of electricity being utilised in industry, agriculture, 4 POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY domestic consumption and in Government sector OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. separately; VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) According to information received trom Uttar Pradesh State Electricity Board, a (c) whether industrial and agriculture sectors 33/11 KV Satraon Sub-station in Block Bhagaipur and experience an acute shortage of electrcity; 33/11 KV Sub-station Bankata Bazar in block Bankata, (d) A so, the factual position in thiq regard; District Deoria are proposed to be constructed during the year 1996-97. However, there is no proposal for (e) whether the Government are corftemplating to construction of any 3311 1 KV Sub-station in Block minimise the utilization of electricity in unproductive Bhulbani, Block of Deoria District in the year 1996-97. sectors; and

(b) The detailed estimate for 3311 1 KV Satraon Sub- (I). , A so. the details thereof? station and associated 33 KV line is under preparation. The estimated amount tor executlon of the work is Rs. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 102 lakhs which IS proposed to be met from Poorvanchal AND OF STATE INTHE 'lNISTRY Vikas Nidhi The constructlon of 3311 1 KV Sub-station OF NON-CONVENT1ONALENERGY (DR. Bankata Bazar has been ~ncluaedIn the approved work VENUGOPALACHARI) (a) and tb). Pattern energy programme for executlon during 1996-97 at ine.$tlmated con5umption by different categones of consumers during cost of Rs. 27 lakhs 1993.94 is glven in the statement attached. (c) The constructlon of the above two Nos, of Sub- (c) and (d) Distribution of power to various stations are targetted for completion by end of March, categories of consumers is primarily the responsibility 1997, of respective State Governments. Power supply to various consumers IS decided by state authorit~es Consumption of Power keeping in view the overall demand and availability of power. Agriculture sector and Core sector industries + have been accorded priority in power supply. 825 SHRl NlTlSH KUMAR SHRl NAWAL KISHORE RAI (e) and (1). Government has taken several measures tor efficient use of energy by various sections through Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : a variety of demand side measures and several actions (a) whether a major part of the total generation of In supply management.

STATEMENT All indra Energy Sales (Utilities only) During 1993-94

-, ---. - - ~- -- - Category Energy sold 96 to lotal Energy sold % to total % increase in during sales ~n durlng sales in sales over 1993.94 1993-94 1992-93 1992.93 previous year 1992-93

Dornestc 43343.66 18.17 39717.08 18.00 9.13

lnduslrlal Power 94503.24 39.6 1 90169.55 40.86 4.81 Public Llghting 1939.37 0.81 1901.07 0.86 2.01 Ra~lways/Tramways 5620.34 2.35 5067.73 2.30 10.90 Agriculture 70699.48 29.64 63327.79 28.70 11.64 Public Water Works a 6 Sewage Pumping 4837.91 2.03 4376.56 1.98 10.54 -M~scellaneous 3481.1 5 1 46 3461.06 1.57 0.58 Tot a l 238568 98 100.00 220673.60 100.00 8.11

8 5 Written Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 86 their recommendations for careful consideration by expeditiously as possible so that the functioning of the Government for ensuring that all necessary steps are courts in the Tribunal is not disrupted. All the Ministriesi taken to ensure the safety of the dam. Departments have also been advised to ensure promopt Government have also shown willingness to have handling of cases before the Tribunal so as to help In the ecologlcal aspects, including the Impact of the their speedy disposal. project on the people of the area and resettlement of displaced persons examined by another group of experts including those nominated by Shri Bahuguna. Refinery Project Shri Bahuguna has since been requested to nominate 2-3 experts for the purpose. 830. SHRI VlNAY KATIYAR : SHRI DHIRENDRA AGARWAL : Construction activities at the Project site are continuing and the coffer dam has been raised to a Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state helght of EL 660 metres (a) whether Hindustan Petroleum Corporatlon Limited propose lo set up a new refinery project in the [English] country; (b) whether the Hindustan Petroleum Corporatlon Carer in Central Administrative Tribunal Limited (HPCL) propose to expand its operations In petroleum sector; and 829 SHRI RAM TAHAL CHAUDHARY : (c) if so, the details of the plan of HPCL in this SHRI KASHl RAM RANA : regard? Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) whether the cases In Central Admlnistratlve PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU), Trlbunal (C.A.T) are lncreaslng every year; (a) Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Ltd. (HPCL) has approval to set up two new joint venture refinery projects (b) I! so, the reasons therelor; in the country as follows :- (c) lhe number of cases pending till 31 December. (i) Western lndla 6 MMTPA Refinery at Deogarh 1995 and the details there01 year-wlse for the last three In Maharashtra as a Joint Venture with Oman years. Oil Company (d) the number of cases filed during the last three (ii) A 6 MMTPA Refinery in Punjab as a Jomt years and dlsposed of till 31 December, 1995, and Venture with Saudi Aramco.

(e) the steps bemg taken by the Government to HPCL IS also expanding the capacities of their Vlzag dlspose of these cases speedily? Refinery by 3 MMTPA and jomt sector Mangalore Reflnery by 6 MMTPA. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (b) and (c). HPCL has signed on MOU In June, AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1996 with leadlng lndlan Flnancial Institutions, viz. ICICI. PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R TDlCl and HDFC for settlng up an Exploration and BALASUBRAMONIYAN) (a) to (c) The cases In the Production Company, to, inter aha, operate in the Tr~bunalas on 31st December of 1993, 1994 and 1995 upstream sector consisting of offshore and onshore were 40020. 39849 and 41970 respectively whlcn do explorat~ons development and production of not show ever lncreaslng wend hydrocarbon resources, lncludlng crude oil, gas and other petroleum products In Indl2 on? r\k:;hd and also (d) the cases f~ledld~sposeaof during the last three trading and transportation thereof and R 8 D acl~v~ties years are as follows In all the assoclated areas. The proposed company wlll -, - be formed with an Initial equity of Rs 20 crores, In Year No of No. of cases which HPCL will have 50% share and the balance wrll cases disposed of be lClCl 35Oi0. TDlCl 1OOia and HDFC 5% filed --..- 1993 27067 28074 Power Projectr in Orirra 1994 26230 26409 1995 25789 23668 831. DR KRUPASINDHU BHOl : Will the PRIME ___*__.__---- MINISTER be pleased to state :

(e) Efforts are being made to fill up vacancies of (a) the name and number of different power projects Vice-Cha~rman and Members of the Tribunal as set-up In Orlssa both in Public and Private soctor; Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Wrlttrn Anrwrrs 88

(b) the installed capacltles of each power project; preparation of water supply rrcheme, thelr oxecutlon (c) whether all those projects have started and maintenance Is the responslblllty of the State commercial production; and Governmont. The 8th Plan Working Group estimated a requirement of Rs. 23,634.55 crores under water supply (d) if so, the steps taken to Increase power and santtatlon sector against which total outlay provided generation In Orlssa. for the 8th Plan period Is Rs. 5892 crores, out of which THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Rs. 5494 crores is under the State plan. In order to POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY provide water supply to small towns having population OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. less than 20,000 (as per 1991 census), a Centrally VENUGOPALACHARI) : The required details are given Sponsored Accelerated Urban Water Supply Programme in the statement encbsed. hasbeen launched In 1993-94 mldway through the 8th Plan. The cost of the scheme Is shared between the (b) Various steps being taken for optimum utilisation Central and State Government in the ratio of 50:50. Out of installed capacity include ensuring adequate fuel of 2151 towns eligible under the scheme, schemes for availability, better managerial practices and liquidity 204 towns at a cost of Rs. 161.63 crores have been timely plant up keep and maintenance. sanctioned upto 31 3.96. Out of the 8th Plan allocation of Rs. 50 crores, Rs. 48.49 crores have been released STATEMENT to the States upto March, 1996.

Pedormance of Power Stations In Orissa [English] Name of the Capacity (MW) Energy Generation Break Down of Power In Kanpur Station (MU) April-June. 1996 833. SHRl JAGAT VIR SlNGH DRONA : will the Ib Valley (T) 420.0 374 PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : Ballmula (H) 360.0 375 (a) whether the Union Government are aware ot Hirakud (H) 307.5 193 constant break down of power in Kanpur which caused Rangall (H) 250.0 151 great difficulties to the inhabitants of Kanpur; Upper Kolab (H) 320.0 183 (b) If so, the reasons thereof; and Talcher (T) 460 0 36 1 (c) the remedial measures taken by the Government Talcher STPS (T) 1000.0 Un~ts out slnce in this regard? 3.10.95 and 29 6.96 THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF due to generator POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY damage and varlous OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S maintenance work. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). Supply of Power In a particular area in a State is within the authority of the T = Thermal. H = Hydro. State GovernmenVState Electricity Boards

[Translation] (c) Varlous measures to improve the availability of power in Uttar Pradesh include maximtslng the Supply ot Drinking Water Seneration from the exlsting capacity, lmplementat~on of R and M programme, reduction in Transmission and 832 SHRl MAHESH KUMAR M. KANODIA . Will Distr~butionlosses. effectwe load management and the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state energy conservation measures and obtaining assistance (a) whether efforts are being made by the from neighbourlng States/Systems Government for supplying safe drmking water to every [Translation) fam~lyIn urban areas; !b) d so, the efforts made by the Government in Ihis Bhrrat Petroleum regard- and fc) the details of the success achieved as a result 834. SHRl SANTOSH KUMAR GANGWAR Wdl thereof' the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stale : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (a) the number of years sincr whrn the zonal oftlce URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER of Bharat Petroleum In Barellly dlstrlct of Uttar Pradesh OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY has been working, AFFAIRS (DR U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) to (c). Yes, (b) whether the Govornmont propose to shlft the Sir However, Water Supply being a State subject, the above frentioned zonal oftoe; and 69 Wr/ttm An8 wrrr ASADHA 26, 1010 (Saka) WrIttrn Anrwrrr 90

(c) It so, the reasons therefor? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL QAS (SHRI T.R. Boa BAALU): (a) to (c). The Dlvlslonal Office of BPCL at Qujarat Barellly had been functioning since January, 1984. It ' was shifted to Agra In January, 1993, in order to have Haryana better coordlnation wlth Mathura Refinery and to Himachal Pradesh provide better servlcelattention to the consumers. The Karnataka Corporatlon Is presently having Its Area Sales Office at Barellly. Kerala Madhya Pradesh [English] Maharashtra Fluoride Water Manlpur Meghalaya 835 SHRI M. RAMAKRISHNA REDDY SHRI L. RAMANA : Mizoram Will the Minister of RURAL AREAS AND Orissa EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state . 15. Punjab (a) whether any plan has been outlayed and 16. Rajasthan villages ldentlfled tor Centrally Sponsored Fluor~de 17. Tamil Nadu Water Scheme In the Country includ~ngAndhra Pradesh; 18. Uttar Pradesh (b) 1 so, the details of villages identified, State- 19. West Bengal wlse; and 20. UTs (c) funds earmarked for the scheme during 1995- Total 28348 96 and 1996-977 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) and (b). Fund Allocation to Wemt Bengal Accordmg to the survey carried out by the States durmg 1991 -93, 28,348 habitations were Identified as 836. SHRI P.R. DASMUNSI : Will the PRIME affected w~thexcess fluoride in drinking water as on MINISTER be pleased to state : 1.4 1994 The State-wise details are given In the (a) the total plan allocation in 94-95, 95-96 and I Statement enclosed. non-plan support to West Bengal so far tor urban (c) During 1995-96, Rs 5569.725 lakhs were development; released to various StateslOrganisations tor tackling (b) the total World Bank amount sanctioned tor specitic the problem of excess tluorlde in drlnking water. projects tor said period for Calcutta and Howrah Durrng 1996.97, an outlay ot Rs. 10020.0 lakhs Corporations of West Bengal; and (provis~onal)has been earmarked tor the Sub-Missions programme under Rajiv Gandhi Natlonal Drinking (c) the amount utilised out of them and the deta~ls Water M~ssion.The amount required tor dealmg with thereof? the problem of excess tluorlde will be met out of the THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF above total outlay tor the Sub-Mlssions URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY STATEMENT AFFAIRS (DR. U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) The total plan allocation tor West Bengal tor urban development Statewrso details of habitations akcted by excess programmes during 94-95 and 95-96 is shown in the fluorrde in drrnkrng water Statement. There has been no non-plan support gwen lo West Bengal for urban development. S.N. State Name Fluoride 4 - (b) None, Sir. 1 2 3 (c) The details of amounts utilised 8s against the 1 Andhra Pradosh 4856 allocations tor 94-95 and 95-96 under various programmes -2 Rlhar 12 are shown In the Annexure. Written Answers JULY 17, 1006 Written Answers 92

STATEMENT (Rs. in crores)

Name of Scheme Amount Amount Total Amount utllised allocated allocated upto 31 3.96 as 1994-95 1995-96 reported by * State Govt. Integrated Development of Small and Medium Towns (IDSMT) Scheme 0.71 1.10 1.81 0.17 Mega City Scheme 16.10 18.08 34.18 '79.31. Scheme for provision of - "20.00 20.00 1.05 Infrastructure Facilities in Displaced Persons Colonies of West Bengal

a Includes expend~tureagainst the total releases made from 1993.94 to 1995.96

" Include Rs 2 33 crores re~mbursedto Government of West Bengal agalnst expenditure already incurred

[Translation] [English]

Adulterated Mobil Oil Oil Well In Godavari Basin

837 SHRI PANKAJ CHOWDHARY : Will the 838. SHRI DADA BABURAO PARANJPE W~ll PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state (a) whether the report of the one man enqulry (a) whether the Government aie aware that committee set up by the Government to go Into the adulterated mobil oil is bemg sold in the country, causes of the blow out of ONGC's well at Pasarlapud~ (b) if so, the detatls thereof; In Krishna Godavari Basln is still under the considerat~on of the Government; (c) the number of persons arrested by the Government in thls regard and the action taken against (b) if so, the steps taken by the Government to them; and make public the report; (d) the effective steps taken by the Government to (c) the number of families displaced due to Ilre, and check to sellmg of adulterated mobil 011In the country? (d) the relief given lo these lamilles by ONGCQ THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T R. BAALU). PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T R BAALU) (a) to Ic). No complaints regarding the sale 01 (a) and (b) Tho Government has already considered adulterated Mobil 011in the country have been received the report of the One-man Enqulry Committee and 11 1s by the Government not proposed to make the reporl public However, durmg 1995-96, a total number of 3457 (c) and (d). Wh~lesome temporary evacuation was Lube samples have been drawn by the Oil Industry, out necessary, no lamlly was displaced due to the blow of whlch 131 samples have failed to meet the out speciflcat~onswhereln action has been Initiated as per the provlslons of Markettng Dlsc~pllneGuidelines agalnst Lmnd Ceiling the concerned dealers. 839 SHRI HARlN PATHAK : Will the Mln~sterof fdl To ensure that no adulterated Mob11 Oil is marketed through Retall Outlets, the Oil Industry RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state. conducts surprtse as well as regular Checks at the Retail Outlets and draws samples for test purposes, In respect (a) whether the Union Government have any ol samples not contormmg to the speclfrations, action proposal under considerat~onlo re-determine the land unaer tdarkettng D~sc~plineGuldellner IS taken. holding limlt ceiling; 93 Wrltten Answers ASAOHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answers 94

(b) if so, the details thereof; techno-economic clearance, are given below : (c) the action taken against Benami Land holdings S.No. Name of the Project Capacity (MW) during the last three years; 1. Patalganga CCPP 410 (d) whether some State Governments have (Ms. Reliance Patalganaga submitted proposals to raise the maximum limlt of land Power Pvt. Ltd.) holdings; and 2. Chlkaldara H.E. Project 2x200 (e) if so, the reaction of the Government thereon? (Pumped Storage Scheme) THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 3. Uran G.T.P.P. Exam. 400 RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) and (b). There is no proposal under consideration with the Union (c) and (d). Patalganga Project has been accorded Government to redetermine the land holding limits in-principle clearance. Addltlonal information/ ceilmg. clarification have been sought from the project authorities by the CEA for consideration of accord of (c) The issue relating to taking action against techno-economic clearance to the other two projects. Benam~Land Holdmgs has been inter-alia discussed at The project authorities are required, as per the varlous fora including Revenue MmistersIChief Ministers prescribed procedure, to obtain besides the techno- Conferences. In Ihe recently concluded Revenue economic clearance from CEA, the requisite statutory Ministers Conference held on 27.12.95 it was inter-aha and other clearances from the sanctloning agencies at declded that panchayats should be allowed to assist the Centre and in the State. The status of these projects the Revenue officials at various levels in unearthing the is being monitored regularly by the Ministry of Power surplus land which include Benami holdings in addition and the Central Electricity Authority to expedite the to detect~onof concealed tenants and unrec2rded share- requisite clearances. croppers The recommendations of the Conference have been forward to the States for taking approprlate steps [Trans la tio n] in the matter CAPART (d) and (9). The State Governments of Maharashtra and West Bengal had submitted the proposals to raise 841. SHRI LALlT ORAON : Will the Minister of the maxlmum limit of land holdings. Subsequently, both RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to the States have withdrawn their proposals. The state : Government of India have not taken any decision to (a) whether social organisations of Bihar have been raise the maximum limit of the land holdings. provided grants under 'CAPART' scheme from January 1, 1994 to June 30, 1996; and (b) if so, the details thereof? Power Project8 In Mahararhtra THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF 840 SHRI RAM NAlK : WIII the PRIME MINISTER RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI be pleased to state CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. (a) whether several new power projects of (b) CAPART has reported that during the per~od to it has sanctioned projects to Maharashtra are await~ngclearance of the Union 1.1.1994 30.6.1996, 436 voluntary agencies in Bihar. Out of the sar~ct~oned Government; amount of Rs. 12.97 crores fo these projects, CAPART (b) if so, the details thereof; has since released Rs. 6 crores to the concerned voluntary agencies. (c) the reasons for delay to give clearance to these projects; and (English]

(d) whether any time bound programme has been Utiliration of MP'r Fund8 framed to clear all the projects within the stipulated time? 842. SHRI RAJIV PRATAP RUDY :Will the Min~ster of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF be pleased to state : POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERQY SOURCES (DR. S. (a) whether the funds earmarked through MPs' VENUOOFALACHARI) : (a) and (b). The details of power recommendations In the Stater of Blhar, U.P., Orlssa projects of Maharashtra, which are under examination and West Bengal have not been utllked for 1994-95, In the Central Electrlclty Authority (CEA) for accord of 1995-96; Wrlttrn Anrwrrr JULY 17, 1W Wrlttrn Anrwrrr 86

(b) If so, the detalls thereof; (c) If so, the detallr thereof; (c) whether the Government have decided to spend (d) H 80, the &on8 therefor; the unused funds on the recommendations of the elected Members of Parliament; and (e) whether the targets llxed for each of the flve year plan to remove the unamployment; (d) if not, the reasons and justlflcations thereof? (f) the total number of educated unemployed; THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND (g) whether there is any proposal to provide MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE unemployment allowance; AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) : (a) (h) ll so, the total annual expendlture likely to be No, Sir. It Is not correct that funds earmarked for MPs' incurred as a result thereof; and recommendations in the States of Blhar, U.P., Orissa and West Bengal have not been utilised for 1994-95, (I) If not, the reasons therefor? 1995-96. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (b) The details of funds released and expendlture PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND incurred since the start of the Scheme, in the States of MlNlSTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE Blhar, 'U.P., Orissa and West Bengal are as under : AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAQH) , (a) to (9). Estimates of unemployment are based on the (Rs. Lakhs) comprehonslve employment and unemployment surveys State Release Expenditure conducted at roughly quinquennial intervals by the National Sample Survey Organisation (NSSO). (As on 31.3.96 Comparable estimates of unemployment (Usual based on infor- Principal Status) based on successive surveys mation recei- conducted are given below : ved upto (1 7.6.1996) NSS Round (Year) Unemployment (million) Bihar . 15515.0 6826.4 32nd Round (1977-78) 10.79 Ultar Pradesh 24440.0 12797.6 38th Round (1983) 7 .96 Orissa 6250.0 2034.8 43rd Round (1987-88) 11.53 West Bengal 11 985.0 4359.1 Recent trends in unemployment will be known when (c) and (d). The maner regarding the utllisation of the resunr of the 50th Round NSSO survey conducted the unspent funds for recommendations made by in 1993-94 are finalised. erstwhile MPs of the Tenth Lok Sabha is under consideration of Government. As for the newly-elected1 Expansion of employment opportunities through re-elected MPs of the Eleventh Lok Sabha, they will be growth of rectors and sub-sec,fon with high employment intensity such a8 agriculture, agro and rural industries, entitled to an amount to the tune of Rs. 1 crore for the current financial year for implementing thelr rural infrastructure, small and decentrallsed recommendations. manufacturing sector, urban informal sector and services and through special employment programme Is a thrust area in the Elghth Five Year Plan. Employment generation will continue to be a thrust area in the Ninth Unemployment Plan also. (1) Educated unemploymenl was est~matedto be 843 SHRI VIRENDRA KUMAR SlNGH : 4.5 mlllion in 1987-88 accordlng to the 43rd Round SHRI VISHAMBHAR PRASAD NISHAD : Survey of NSSO. SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT : (g) There Is no ruch proposrl under conslderat~on Will the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME of the Central Government. IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to rtate . (h) Does not arlro. (a) whether unemployment in the country I8 increasing tremendourly; (I) It Ir fen that rvrllrble re8ourcoa rhould be rpent on creallon ol rddnlonal employment opportunities (b) if so, whether the Unlon Qovernment prop080 to through farter growth of tho economy rupplomented by have a policy programme initiative to create more jobr rpeclal employment acheme8 where necersary rather to check the growth of unemployment; than on payment of unemployment allowance. 97 Wrltton Anrwors ASADHA 26, 1818 (Sakr) Wrltton Anrworr 98

Ambedkar Villager (d) the reasons for loading the portion of cost of bulldlng houses for EWS on MIQ allottees of DDA 844. SHRI VISHAMBHAR PRASAD NISHAD : Will housing cooperative societies when the scheme IS the Mlnister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be undertaken by the State8/Unlon Territories? pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF I (a) the number of Ambedkar villages in the country URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER particularly in Uttar Pradesh; OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY (b) whether all these villages have been fully AFFAIRS (DR. U. VENKATESWARLU) : (a) A Statement developed; indicating nuber of houses constructed, State-wise and (c) H so, the details thereof; and Union Territory-wise for Economically Weaker Sections of the society during the last three years, i.e., 199394, (d) if not, the reasons therefor and the time by 1994-95 and 1995-96 is annexed. which the all Ambedkar villages are likely to be (ully developed? (b) As per the estimates there is a shortage of 8.23 million houses in urban areas as on 1.3.1991. However, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF no specific information is maintained by the Union RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI Government for EWS housing. CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) to (d). The information is being collected and will be laid on the (c) As per the survey and food cards issued by the Table of the House. Civil Supplies Department of Government of National Capital Territory of Delhi, there were 929 JJ clusters/ [English] squatter settlements comprising a population of approximately 13 lakhs in 1990. At present it is estimated Mid-Term Appraisal of Eighth Plan that there are about 1080 JJ clusters comprising 20 I lakhs jhuggi dwellers in Delhi containing about 4.80 845. SHRI PRADEEP BHATTACHARYA : Will the lakh jhuggi households though no specific survey has Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME been made. Relocationlresettlement of the eligible JJ IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state dwellers is undertaken by the Municipal Corporation of (a) whether the Mid-term appraisal of the Eighth Delhi at the request of the land owning agencies, who Plan has since been final~sed; share the relocation cost. During the period 1.4.90 to 30.6.96, 5943 eligible Jhuggi families were relocated by (b) H so, the salient features thereof; the Municipal Corporation of Delhi. (c) whether on several aspects Planning (d) As reported by the Delhi Development Authority, Comm~ssionand Finance Ministry differ; and the disposal cost of flats is arrived at as per policy (d) if so, the details thereof and the reasons decision taken by the Authority from time to time. The therefor? d~sposalcost of flat is decided broadly on 'No profit No THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF loss" basis for the project as a whole. Accordingly to PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND provide relief to the Economically Weaker Sections of MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE the' society, buthority has provided relieflsubsidy in the AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) : (a) land rates and other overhead charges by loading the No, Sir. MlGlSFS flats and Cooperative Group Housing Societies. (b) to (d). Do not arise STATEMENT Houres for Weaker Sections Number of Houses Constructed Under EWS 846 SHRI MANGAL RAM PREMI : Will the PRIME During the Last Three Years MlNlSTER be pleased to state (a) the total number of houses constructed for econom~caliyweaker sectlons of the society in the country, State-wise and Union Territory-wise In the last Andhra Pradesh three years, year-wise; 1 55424 48082 55034 2. Assam 294 1412 771 (b) the total number of houses required to be constructed for the EWS in the country and by when all 3. Bihar 42 0 192 these houses are likely to be constructed; 4. Goa 20 0 0 (c) the number ol jhuggi jhonpri dwellers resenled 5. Gujarat 2445 4383 2474 in planned houses in Delhi so far and the number of 6. Haryana 64 1 56 3 1 people stlll living in J.J. clusters and by when they are 7. Hlmachal Pradesh 15 30 likely to be rehabilltated in developed areas; and 30 99 Wrltton Answrrs JULY 17, 1998 Wrilirn Anr wrrs 100

(b) the present position of the Investigation being conducted by the CBI and the time by which the 8. Jammu and Kashmir 1 investlgrtlons are llkely to be completed; 9. Karnataka 7521 (c) whether the Qovernment have devised a 10. Keraia 22051 monitoring mechrnlsm to keep 8 watch on the progress 1 1 Madhya Pradesh 6013 of Invertigatlon; and 12. Maharashtra 4410 (d) W not, the reasons therefor? 13. Manipur 0 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 14. Meghalaya 547 PERSONNEL PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS 15. Mizoram 100 AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. 16. Orissa 2723 BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) So far as cases against 17. Punjab 421 Political personaiitles are concerned, there are 12 cases 18. Rajasthan 1994 registered against political personalities on corruption 1 Sikkim 4 0 charges pending investigation wlth CBI. 20. Tamil Nadu 9948 As regards cases agalnst bureaucrats, it is Informed 21. Tripura 387 that as on 30.6.1996, a total of' 1210 cases registered against public servants of various ranks on or after 22. Uttar Pradesh 51 22 1.6.91 under corruption charges were pending 23. West Bengal 25 investigation with the CBI. UNION TERRITORIES (b) As already intimated in reply to part '(a)' these 24. A and N Islands 0 are the details of cases that are pending investigation. 25. Daman and Diu 10 As regards probable time by which these cases are to be finalised, it is informed that in CBI there is a time 26. Delhi 2686 frame prescribed tor disposal of the cases i.e. 6 months Total 122895 116817 113646 for an ordinary RO and 4 months for an ordinary PE. In complicated cases this time frame is, however, not possible to be adhered to. Efforts are made to expedite Drinking Water investigations by frequent monitoring of cases by senior otticers. The time taken in the investigations depends 847. DR. T. SUBBARAMI REDDY : Will the on the nature and ramifications of each case. Minister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be (c) In CBI there Is a system of monitoring the pleased to state : progress of investigation of each and every case, (a) whether in Marth-April, 1996 12 distrlcts were Branches send progress report of all the important cases affected due to hail storms and 74 villages of on weekly/fornightly/monthly basis to the higher officers Mehboobnagar district were felt shortage of drlnking depending on the importance of the cases. The senior water; officers also conduct meethlngs with the ZonaVRegional (b) whether Union Government had agreed to DIGS to keep watch over progress of the cases. Director, provide financial assistance to meet the drinking water CBI also takes a meeting wlth all DIGS and Joint situation; and Directors every quarter to review the progress of each and every case and guide the officers wherever, (c) if so, to what extent? necessary. Suitable instructions are Issued to expedite THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF investigation of cases from time to time. RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI (d) Does not arise. CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) to (c). No proposal has been received from the State Government of Andhra Pradesh for providing financial assistance to Wrrtrlrnd Development meet the drinking water situation in the villages affected due to hail storms in the state. 849. SHRI JAG MOHAN : Will the Mlnlster of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : CBI Inquiry (a) the wasteland targeted for reclamatlon and 848. SHRI CHiTTA BASU : Will the PRIME development at the time of setting up of the National MINISTER be pleased to state : Wasteland Development Board in 1985 and thereafter (a) the number of corruption cases lying wlth the under the current Ftve-Year Plan; CBI involving political personalltier and Bureaucrats In (b) the land rcturlly reclrlmed and doveloped the country slnce June 1991, till date; during the tart threr yeare; 101 Written Anr wers ASADHA 28, 1918 (Sh) Wrlnen Anrwers 102

, (c) the cultivable land has become waste durlng revised Government approval is worded to the project the aforesaid period; and based on World Bank fundlng. (d) the new strategies are contemplated to Land for the project has been acquired and alleviate the present unsatisfactory conditions and infrastructural activities at she are in progres8. increase the pace of reclamation and development of wastelands?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Employment Scheme RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) No targets were 851. 6HRI BACHl SINGH 'BACHDA' RAWAT : Will set tor development of wastelands at the time of setting the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME of the National Wastelands Development Board in 1985. IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state : During the Eighth Five Year Plan an area of 6.9 million (a) whether the Government have launched any hectares was envisaged to be developed with an outlay new employment oriented scheme in the backward of Rs. 4020 crores. blocks of the country; (b) During the last three years, 1.90 lakh hectares (b) If so, the crituion laid down for selection of of land was developed under various schemes of such blocks in the hill areas of the country; National Wastelands Development Board at an outlay of Rupees 163.12 crores. (c) whether all hill districts of Kumaon and Garhwrl division of Uttar Pradesh have been included under Hill (c) The reclamation of wastelands for cultivation is Areas Development Programme; and not the mandate of National Wastelands Development (d) if not, the reasons therefor? Board. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (d) The new strategies contemplated include PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND formulation of Common Guidelines adopting an MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE integrated watershed approach for area based AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) : (a) programmes like Drought Prone Area Programme The Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) was (DPAP), Desert Development Programme (DDP). launched on 2nd October, 1993 in 1752 identified Integrated Wastelands Development Programme (IWDP) backward blocks situated in drought prone, desert, tribal and Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS). and hill areas, in which the Revamped Public Distribution System was in operation. The EAS has now been extended to cover 3206 blocks of the country in all Kayamkulrm Project States and UTs axcluding Goa, Punjab, Chandigarh, Delhi and Pondichery. The additbnal blocks include the 850. SHRI V.M. SUDHEERAN : Will the PRIME newly identified Drought Prone Area Programme (DPAP) MINISTER be pleased to state : and Desert Development Programme (DDP) blocks, blocks under the Modlfied Area Development Approach (a) the progress made so far regarding the (MADA) and those in the flood prone areas of the Kayamkulam power station in Kerala; and country. Under this scheme assured employment tor (b) the detalls thereof? 100 days of unskilled manual work ha8 to be provided to those who are seeking it, durlng the lean agricultural THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF season. POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY (b) In the hill areas of the country all those blocks OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. are covered under EAS where the Revamped .Public VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). Kayamkulam Distribution System (RPDS) is in operation. Combined Cycle Power Project (400 MW) to be implemented by National Thermal Power Corporation (c) Yos, Sir. (NTPC) has been accorded government approval based (d) Does not arise. on funding through external commercial borrowings and internal resources of NTPC. However, in view of the [English] availability of tunds under World Bank time slice loan, the matter was pursued wlth them. World Bank has Rural Sanitation confirmed avallabliity of fund In May, 1996 subject to a rrtlsfactory solution of the mode of fuel transportation. 852. DR. T. SUBBARAMi REDDY : Will the * NTPC has agreed to abide by the advice of the Minister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be consultant appointed for tho purpose. pleased to state : The award recommendations for the main plant turn- (a) whether the Government of Andhra Pradesh key contract for the project have the concurrence of had submitted detailed project report on htegntod Rural World Bank. The award will be placed by NTPC after Sanitation Project (1995) and on JRY; 103 Written Answers JULY 17, 1998 Written Answers 104

(b) If so, the details of the project; and 100 days to manual workers between the age group of (c) the time by which the funds additional funds are 10 to 60 years. At present the scheme Is .being implemented in 3200 backward blocks In the country llkely to be provlded to the State Government to whlch are situated In drought prone areas, desert areas, Implement the project? hill areas etc. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. Power Project In India

(b) TherProJect proposal is estimated to cost Rs. 854. SHRI PARASRAMB HARDWAJ : WIII the 226 crores In 22 districts in Andhra Pradesh for PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : construction of 10 lakh household latrines, 2.5 lakh bathing cubicles, 3.5 lakh metre length of village (a) whether a leading Japanese Industrial house drains and two camps per village towards awareness plans to Invest nearly 10 bllllon dollars to set up power camps. project In India; (c) Consldering that the total budget under Central (b) H so, the details thereof; and Rural Sanitation Programme Is Rs. 60 crores only, the (c) the reaction of the Government thereon? State Government was requested to revise the project like adoption of low cost models of sanitary latrines, THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF information, Education and Communication (IEC) POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY component for creation of felt needldemand, health OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. education and awareness, In order to explore the VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) No, Sir. possibility for external assistance also. This revised project is yet to be sent by the State Government. (b) and (c). Coes not arise in view of reply to (a) above. Employment Opportunftieo Arm8 to Ex-Servicemen 853. SHRI S.D.N.R. WADIYAR : Will the Minister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to 855. SHRI RAMCHANDRA VEERAPPA : Will the state : PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) whether some Employment Generation Schemes (a) whether the Government propose to provide have been introduced in different States during the arms to the Ex-Sewicemen of J and K; Eighth Plan; and (b) H so, the time by which these are likely to be (b) if so, the details of schemes sanctioned for provided; and providing employment in the rural areas? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (c) if not, the reasons therefor? RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS Integrated Rural Develoment Programme (IRDP), AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF Jawahar Rozgar Yojana (JRY) and Employment PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. Assurance Scheme (EAS) are the major employment BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) to (c). The State schemes being implemented by the centre. The scheme Government have Informed that they .have already of IRDP was launched in the mid seventies as a self provided arms to some ex-servicemen who have been employment programme for rural poor in 2300 blacks enlisted as members of Village Defence Committees to and later on extended to cover all the blocks In tho strengthen the efforts to combat terrorist violence, country with effect from 2nd October, 1980. Under the particularly in the Doda and Border districts of Jammu programme, the target group consists gt small and region. In Doda and Udhampur district, 200 such Village marginal farmers, agricultural labourers, rtisans etc. In Defence Committees have been set up so far,, which addition to the above, the programd e also provides have over 1600 members many of whom are ex- safeguards to SCs, STs, Physically handicapped servicemen. More such Committees are in the process persons and women. Similarly, JRY is being of being set up. Ex-servicemen have also been implemented w.e.f. 1.4.89. Tb main objective of the appointed as Special Police Officers as a part of the JRY is to provide additional gainful employment to overall effort to strengthen the security arrangements. unemployed and undere oyed persons in rural areas. In addition, 17 Coys of ex-sewlcemen hav.e been raised Besides, EAS is being flplemented w.e.f. 2nd October, as a parl of the local police and are performing various 1993. The scheme provides assured employment for security related duties. [Translation] through ration depots, the steps taken for remedial measures; and Supply of Cooking Gar (e) tho quantity and value of foodgrains and other ratlons damaged in the stores? 836. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Will the 4 pRihRE MINISTER be pleased to state : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (a) whether the Government are considering any AND MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF scheme to supply cooking gas through pipelines In the PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. National. Capltai Territory of Delhl; BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) The foodgrains supplied (b) if so, the details thereof; to J and K during the last three years are indicated bebw : (c) the areas in Delhi where the above mentioned (In MTs) scheme has already been Implemented or proposed to be Implemented; and Year Rice Wheat (d) the progress made in this regard so far? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): (a) to (d). Presently, there is no proposal to supply LPG through pipellne in the National Capital Territory of Delhi. (b) A Statement is annexed. However, GAIL has taken up a project for the supply of natural gas through pipelines to the domestic and (c) No financial loss is being suffered on supply of foodgrains by the State Government. ' commercial sectors in Deihi. Areas such as Bapanagar, Kakanagar etc. are proposed to be connected in the (d) Complaints of inferior qualily of foodgrains are first phase. Feasibility study for the project has been sometimes received. There are standing instructions that completed. in case of specific complaints of inferior quality of toodgrains, such inferior quality foodgrains should be (English] got replaced immediately and returned back to FCI godowns. Fair Price Shopr in Jnmmu and Karhmir (e) The quantity and vaiue of foodgrains and other 857. SHRl CHAMAN LAL GUPTA :Will the PRIME rations damaged in stores is indicated below : MINISTER be pleased to state : Commodity Qly Value (a) the foodrains imported in Jammu and Kashmir (MTs) (Rs. Lakhs) through F.C.I. and other agencies during last three years; Jammu Division (i) Wheat 110 4.49 (b) the Foodgrains supplied in each district every (ii) Flour 2.5 1.21 year through Government agencies during the said period; (iii) Rice 11.4 0.75 Kashmir (i) Wheat 699 30.00 (c) the financial loss suffered every year on supply of foodgrains and other rations in the State; (ii) Flour 1514 66.91 (ill) Rice (IR-0) 2167 121.35 (d) whether there are complaints of inferior quallty of rations including wheat and rice, being supplied (iv) Rice (PR106) 1134 75.41

STATEMENT Statement indkating districtwise supplies made of foodgrains during tho last three years (In MTs)

District Rice Wheat 1993-94' 1994.95 1895-96 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96

1 Kathua 1344 600 1036 1900 460 437 - 2. Jammu 6001 9029 9512 33292 24375 19020 3. Poonch 1591 872 1524 1667 31 4 1359 4. Rajouri 2499 2424 5699 2006 3023 5368 5. Udhampur 7040 6847 9150 23795 22750 25284 107 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Wrltten Answers 10 8

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(c) whether any contact was established with the abductors and demands made by them for release of Per Capita Income abducted tourists; (d) when the last contact was established with 858. JUSTICE GUMAN MAL LODHA : abductors/twrist; PROF. PREM SINGH CHANDUMAJRA : (e) thldetak of hostages killed; Will the Minister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME (1) whether the help of some foreign agencies was IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state : sought to secure the release these hostages and the (a) whether there has not been increase in the per outcome thereof; and capita average annual income in the country over the (g) the place where the Al-Faran headquarters is years; located? (b) if so, the per-capita income in the country during THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1991-92; PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS (c) the estimated per-capita income in the country AND MiNlSlER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF by the end of 1995-96; and PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S R (d) the estimated per-capita average annual income BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) to (g). Six fore~gntourlsts in the country likely to be by the end of 2000? viz Paul Wells, Kieth Mangan, John Childs, Donald Hutchings, Dirk Hasserl and Hans Christian Ostro were THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF kidnapped on 4-8 July, 1995 in Pahalgam area of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND Jammu and Kashmir. One of them, John Ch~lds MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE managed to elcape on 10 July, while another, Hans AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGH) : (a) Christian Ostro was brutally killed by the kidnappers on The per capita income has steadily been growing over 12 August, 1 95. The whereabouts of the remalnlng the years. four houstagt s are unknown. Ever since the kidnappmg (b) Rs. 2175 at constant (1980-81) prices. took place, htenslve efforts were made to try and locate (c) Rs. 2506 at constant (1980-81) prices. their whereabouts and to secure their safe release However, the Government refrained from taking any (d) Such estimates will be p .pared for the targets precipitate action which could have jeopardised the of the Nmth Five Year Plan. lives of the hostages. The Government followed the [English] approach of dialogue and pursuasion to prevail upon the abductors to release the hostages without brmgmg Rekase of Hostrgea any harm to them. In this process indirect contacts were also established wlth representatives of the abductors 859 KUMARI UMA BHARATI : on several occasions between the date of kidnappmg SHRI VlNAY KATIYAR : and the end of November 1995, after whch there have / Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased lo stay': been no contacts. During these contacts efforts were made to prevall upon the abductors to release the (a) when the foreign tourists were kidnapped by Al- hostages on humanitarian grounds and lo deslst from Faran outfit of militants in Kashm~rincludmg tbeir names bringing any harm upon them. Humanilarran appeals and the steps taken lor their release; ,. by the Government, International and National Human (b) whether the persons have be identified who Righb Organ1sation6, bcal Organitat~onsIn the State, had abducted those foreign tourists{ 9 Government6 of the concerned countries and the 109 Written Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Anrwm 1 1 0

families of the hostages were also issued, and the act (b) If so, whether these deposlts are rich in vast of abduction was uniformly condemned. mineral resources, rich h platinum, gold, silver and 2. As part of the policy of treansparancy, and with other metals; and the aim of maklng a joint effort to secure the release of (c) the steps w far takenlproposed to be taken to the hostages, rlght from the beginning, the Government develop and exploit the resources and the results ' maintained close and continuous contact with the thereof? diplomatic representatives of the co'untries whose nationals have been abducted, Experts from these THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MlNlSTRY OF countries were also associated from time to time in this PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND process. This mutual consultation, cooperation and MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE interaction continues. AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAG~~): (a) Surveys carried out by the National Institute of 3. The abductors claiming to belong to a group Oceanography, Goa have Identified hydro thermal called AL Faran had demanded the release of 22 named activity near the Andaman Nicobar islands. and unnamed militants, including a number of Pakistan Nationalslresidents of POK who'are importantlactivists (b) While the hydro thermal activity is conducive to of the Pakistan based international Terrorist Group, the the formulation of deposits rich in metals like platinum. Harkat-ul-Ansar. The socalled Al-Faran group has not gold, silver etc., NIO is conducting surveys to locate been heard of before, and all the available information such deposits. clearly Indicates that it is nothing but a front of the (c) Government is putting together an inter- Harket-ul-Ansar. Action has also been taken through departmental programme for detailed expbration of the diplomatic channels to prevail upon the Government in hydro thermal activky areas. Pak~tanto use their influence to secure the release of the hostages. At the same time efforts are continuing to ' , [Translation] identify, the individuals who perpetrated the abdcution and to locate the hostages as well as the abductors. LPG Mirum

Natural Gas 862. SHRI SATYA DEO SlNGH : SHRi PRABHU DAYAL KATHERIA : 860 SHRI SHANTILAL PARSOTAMDAS PATEL : W~llthe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) the quantlty of natural gas being ulilised (a) whether petromax (gas lantern) are being sold currently In Gujarat State: on a large scale in the country thereby encouraging the black-marketing of LPG; (b) the quantity 01 gas flarlng up every day In the Slate: and (b) ii so, whether the Government have taken any 1 (c) the quantity of gas being processed into LPG action to check the illegal sale of these petmmax; , and the plan for increasing LPG production in the State? (c) U so, the details thereof; and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF (d) if not, the reasons therefor? PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU) : (a) Around 15.5 MMSCMD of gas is currently being THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF util~sedIn Gularal, PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU) : (a) to (d). During February 1993, Government had 0 (b) 84 MMSCMD ot gas is currently being flared permitted, under the parallel marketing scheme, private in Gularat, entrepreneurs to import and market LPG at market (c) At present around 7 MMSCMD of gas is being determined prices through their own network. No processed for LPG extraction In Gujarat. GAIL has complaint has been received regarding d~versionof proposed setting up a new 370.000 MTPA LPG plant at LPG from Public Sector Oil Companies for use In Gandhar Petromax (gas lanterns). However, oil companies regularly conduct inspections of their distributors at Mineral Deposits various levels. If any distributor is found diverting domestic LPG for any other purpose, action is initiated under Marketing Discipline Guidelines against the erring 861 DR LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY : Will the distributor. Mln~slerot SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state However, it is understood that some private soctor (a) whether sea-lloor hydro thermal system of companies are selling petromaxes, based on different mlnerai deposits has been discovered near the petroleum fuels, for which they may have obtained Andaman and Nicobar Islands; necessary approval from concerned authorltior.,

113 Wrlllen Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Written Answen 1 14

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF West Bengal, Tripura, Bihar, Cambay Basin POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY in Gujarat. OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. Himalayan Foothills in H.P and J and K. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) The total potential for hydel Vindhyans/Gondwanas in M.P. power in the Eastern area, la., Eastern and North , Eastern Reglons, is 37447 MW at 60% load factor out Rajasthan. of which 1232.67 MW (3.3%) has been developed and Saurashtra Offshore. 1021.56 MW (2.7%) is under development. Ganga Valley in U.P. (b) The level of utilisation of hydro potential is low especially in the Norlh Eastern Region, due to low [Trans la tio n] demand, power evacuation difficulties, opposltlon of some States to large hydro projects, law and order Demand and Supply of Power difficulties, inter-state aspects and environment and forest clearance problems. + 868. DR. SATYANARAYAN JATlA :Will the PRIME (c) Some of the special measures taken by the MINISTER be pleased to state : Government towards harnessing the hydro potential are (a) the position regarding supply and generation modification in the financial, administrative and legal of power at the tlme of peak demand period during procedures to attract private investment, creation of the last one year till June, 1996 in the country, State- central/joint sector corporations, increase in outlay wise; for development of hydro projects, increase in budgetary allocation for centralljoint sector projects and (b) the present power-generation capacity of , arranging funds for hydel projects through external N.T.P.C. and other power-generating plants (Private assistance. and under Union Government) in the country, State- wise; [English] (c) the measures being taken to generate power to meet its demand in the country; Crude Oil (d) the number of times the Madhya Pradesh 867 SHRI SOUMYA RANJAN : WIII the PRIME Government have made a demand for installation of a MlNlSTER be pleased to state . gas based power plant in Madhya Pradesh; and (a) the total quantity of crude oil being produced (6) the time by when the decision is likely to be presently in the country, taken by the Union Government in thls regard? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (b) the product~onof crude 011likely to be achleved POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY durmg the year and i 1996.97, OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. (c) the locat~onswhere exploration of crude oil is VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) State-wise peak demand, belng conducted at present In the country? peak met and th.2 deficit in the country during July, 1995 to June, 1996 is given in the attached THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Statement - I. PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T,R. BAALU): (b) State-wise power generation capacity in the (a) and (b) The crude 011 production during 1995.96 was 35 19 MMT The production is expected to be Central, State and Private Sectors in the country as on 31.03.96 is given in the attached Statement II. around 36 MMT durlng 1996-97. - (c) Amongst the measures undertaken for increasing (c) The explorat~onfor hydrocarbons is being power generation are higher utilisation of installed carrmd out In the lollowmg areas - capacity, monitoring the supply of proper quality and West Coast Offshore including Gulf of Kutch, quantity of coal for thermal stations and modern~sation Deep Waters 01 Kerala-Konkan. and uprating of existing power stations. Besides. initiatlng schemes for reducing transmission and East Coast Otfshore distribution losses, steps have also been undertaken Coastal areas of A P from Kakinada in the for speedier implementation 01 ongoing projects In norlh to N~zamapatnamIn the South the public sector both at the Central and.State levels. Participation of private sector is also being Cauvery basin In Tamll Nadu including Union encouraged. Territory of Pondcherry. (d) and (0). Madhya Pradesh has submind the Areas In Upper Assam, North Bank of Brahmapulra, Dhanslri Valley and Cachar in following schemes for gas based power plants lor techno-economlc appraisal by Central Electricity North East. 115 Wrlttm Anrwon JULY 17, loob Wrltten Anrwm 1 16

Authority. These schemes could not be procarsad a8 no gar linkaga k waNable. Name ol the schame Capaclty Data of Recelpt (MW) In CEA Qwalior CCGT 200 7/03 Fnsh rchrma &I b. submMad upto gas * Ilnkaga b conflrmd. Qwalior CCGT 817 619 1 Ratumed rr gar from HW pipa Ilna could not ba kdup. Jhabua CCGT 3x100 (QT) 10188 -do- +lxlSO (ST) = 450. Rajgarh CCGT 3x1 00 (GT) 10188 -do- +tx150 (ST) = 450. Vljaypur CCGT 2x30 (GT) 719 1 -do- +lx30 (ST) =oo.

STATEMENT - I State-wise peak demand and peak met (Juk, 1995 June, 1996) (Flgursr In Net MW)

StateISystem Peak Demand Peak Met Deficlt %

NORTHERN REGION Chandigarh Delhl Harayana Hlmachal Pradesh Jammu and Kashmir Punjab Rajasthan Utter Pradesh Total N.R.

WESTERN REGION : Gujarat 61 00 Madhya Pradesh 5500 Mahrrashtra 8050 Goa 204 Total W.R.

SOUTHERN REGION : Andhra Praderh 5830 4276 Karnrtaka Kerala Tamil Nrdu Total S.R 117 ~r/rtenAnrwur ASADHA I,lql8 (-I) Wrltten Anrwerr 1 18

EASTERN REGION : Blhar ' D.V.C. Oriwa West Bengal Total E.R.

NORTH EASTERN REGION Arunachal Pradesh Assam Manipur Meghalaya Mlzoram Nagaland Tripura Total N.E.R. All India 60981 49836 11145 10.3

STATEMENT-II Generating Plant lnrtalled Capaclty As on 31.03.96 (Provisional) Abstract State-wise

S. Region/ installed CapacRy (MW) No. Statr1U.T. Hydro Thermal Nuclear Total

1. NORTHERN 1. Haryana ' 2. Himachal 3. J 6 K 4. Punjab 5. Rajasthan 6. U.P. 7. Chandlgarh 8. Delhi 9. Cen. Sac. (NR) Total (NR) II. WESTERN 1. Goa 2. Gujarrt 3. M.P. 4. Mahararhtra

I 5. D 6 N Havrll 8. Daman 6 Dlu 7. Cen. Soc. (WR) Total (WR) llB Written Anrwrrs JULY 17, 1096 Writton Anrwrrr 1 20

SOUTHERN A.P. Karnataka Kerala Tamil Nadu Pondicherry Cen. Sec. (SR) Total (SR) EASTERN Bihar Orissa West Bengal Sikkim Cen. Sec. (ER) Total (ER) NORTH-EASTE RN Arunachal Pradesh Assam Manipur Meghalaya Mizoram Nagaland Tripura Cen. Sec. (NER) Total (NER) ISLAND A CL. 0s: AMDS Lakshdweep Total (Islands) C. Sector SS+PS All India % of Total

[English] (c) the estimate of energy produced, year-wise during the last three years, through these sources? Hrrnerring of Non-Conventionrl Energy Sourcrr THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 869. DR. KRUPASINDHU BHOl : Will the PRIME POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY MINISTER be pleased to state : OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) In order to producelsave (a) the schemes under implementation during the energy through non-conventional energy sources during 8th Plan period to produce energy through non- 8th Plan perlod a wide range of Non-conventional conventional energy sources; energy programmes such as Improved chulha, biogas, (b) the funds set apart for the purpose; and blomass gasHkatlon, solar photovoltalcs, solar thermal, 121 Wrlttrn Anrwrra ASADHA 28, 1918 (Sakr) Wrltten Anawera 122

wlnd enbrgy, small hydro power, blomass comburtlon (c) The year-wlse ertlmated energy producedhaved and co.generatlon energy recovery from Urban and durlng 1993-94, 1994-95 and 1995-96 through varlour lndurtrlal waste etc. are under Implementation. non-conventional energy rourcer ruch as wlnd, rmall hydro, blomasr comburtion and co-generation, bbmarr A 'Ian pmvi810n Of Rs, g42 crons (includes R8, gasification, biogas, Improved, chulhar, rolar ' cmre8 under IREPIwas made for the purpou lor photovoI1aI~sand solar thermal ryrtemr and devices is tho 8th Plan perlod. glven In the statement enclosed.

Estimated Energy/Biogas Produced/Fuel wood saved through various Non-conventional Energy Systems and devices during 1993-94, 1994-95 and 1995-96. ' S.No. Programmes Periodnear 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 1. Power generated under wind, small hydro, biomass cumbustion (L co-generation, solar photovoltalcs (million Kilo watt hours) 417.56 532.17 894.76 2. Solar Thermal Energy (million kllo watt hours) 4.40 5.40 8.80 3. Solar photovoltaic lighting systems (million kilo wan hours) 4.58 5.40 6.80 4. Biogas plants (biogas produced in lakh cubic meters) 11 -50 10.80 9.70 5. Improved Chulhas (estimated fuelwood saving in lakh tonnes per annum) 9.70 10.70 12.53 6. Biomass Gasifiers (million Kwh) 28.00 40.00 48.00

Mrlntenanco and Rrpalr Fund8 Flre on Pmnrki Grid

870. SHRI DADA BABURAO PARANJAPE : Will 871. SHRI JAGAT VIR SINGH DRONA : Will the the Mlnister of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : pleased to state : (a) whether the Government are aware of fire (a) whether the Government have taken a decision incidence in Panaki Grid, Kanpur; recently regarding increase in maintenance and repairs (b) tl so, the details thereof; funds for Accelerated Rural Water Supply Programme 4 (c) whether any enquiry has been constituted in and implemented retrospectively; this regard; (b) If so, the details thereof; (d) il so, the details of enquiry; (c) If not, the reasons therefor; and (8) the total loss suffered due to this incidence; and (d) the time by which the decision is likely to be (1) precautionary measures takenlproposed to be taken In thls regard? taken to avoid such recurrence in future? THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) No, Sir. OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES. (DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) No mrjcr fire lncidant (b) Does not arise has taken place during this calender year at 400 KV & 220 KV sub-station at Panaki, Kanpur. (c) and (d). In accordance with the guidelines for Implementation of Accelerated Rural Water Supply (b) to (1). Do not arise Programme, 10% of the annual plan funds are to be utlllsed for malntenahce and repalrs of Rural Water Oil Drilling Suply Schemes. Similarly, 10% of the State Sector * Minimum Needs Programme funds can also be utilised 872. SHRI HARlN PATHAK : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleared to state : for operrtlon and maintenance. The remaining nqulrement of funds for maintenance and repairs is to (a) the number of NRls and muRlnrtlona1 companies be met out of tho non-plan fund6 ot the State Government who have applied for permission for oil drilling In and contribution by the users, western Indla; 123 Written Answers JULY

(b) the number of applications received so far by the Government from NRls and mulknatlonals during 1992-93, 1993-94 and as on date; Asjol Gujarat HOEC, Indla, GSPCL, India (c) the details of the companies who have been and Petrodyne Inc. USA. granted permission during the said period and the terms Dholka do- L a T Ltd., India and Joshi r and conditions thereof; Technology International (d) the number of centres selected by the NRls and Inc. USA. multinational companies In Western lndia for oil drilling; Wavel do- do- and lndrora do- Selan Exploration (e) the time by which these companies are likely to Technologies Ltd. New start commerciaI/production and the estimated Delhi. production per annum? Bakrol do- do- THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Lohar do- do- PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): Baola do- Interlink Petroleum Ltd., (a) and (b). The number of NRls and multinational Cos. Baroda. who had submitted their bids for exploration and development of oil and gas in Western lndia during The contracts of exploration blocks are Production 1992-93, 1993-94 and 1994 (April) todate are given Sharing Contracts with a contract period in case of below : crude oil and associated gas, of upto 25 years. Companies are exempted from payment of bonuses Per lod No. of NRlslMultinationals and statutory levies. The Government of lndia would have the first right of refusal in respect of ihe 011 1992-93 produced under these contracts, with companies bemg 1993-94 paid for their share of oil at international prices. Prov~slon 1994 (April) todate for participation by ONGClOlL in the venture at the exploration andlor the development stage has been (c) and (d). The names of companies and the made and ONGClOlL can take a participating interest ol Exploration blocksldiscovered tieids in Western India 30% to 40% in the venture. Provisions have also been tor which contracts have been signed during said period made for the development of commercially exploitable are given below : natural gas resources. 199243 Nil The medium-sized fields would be developed 1993-94 Nil through joint ventures between Oil a Natural Gas Corporation Ltd. (0NGCL)lOiI lndia Limited (OIL) on the 1994 (April) todate : one hand and the private companies on the other. Name of Location Expbration Bbcks ONGClOlL wouM take a 40% share in the venture The Bkk Contract signed behvoen small-sized fields would be developed by companies on their own, wtth no participation by ONGClOIL, under RJ-ON-90/1 Rajasthan GOI, ONGC, Shell lndia production sharing contracts to be signed by the companies with the Government of lndla In both cases. ' Production Development BV Netherland companies would also be required to bear the~rshare of statutory levies like royalty, cess, etc. Fore~gn Small 8 Medium Sized Discovered Fields companies involved in oil exploration would be levled income-tax at a fixed rate of 50% whlle lndlan Name of Location Contract Signed Behvoen companies would be governed by the relevant F~eld provisions of the Income-Tax. In addition private 1 2 3 companies would share profit oil with the Oovernment Bhandut Gujarat Gujarat State Petroleum (e) The production during 1995-96 froin the Corpn. Ltd, Indian and Niko d~scoveredfields was 0 64 MT of curde oil and 328.9 Resources of Canada. million Cubic Meters of gas. Matar do- do- Prnchryrtl Rrj lnrtltutlonr Cambay do- do- Sabarmati do- do- 073. SHRI RAM NAlK : Will the Mlnlsler of RURAL Hazira do- do- AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to alate . Panna-Mukta Bombay GOI, ONGC, Reliance (a) whether two year back, the kglrlatlon provided Ottshore Industries Ltd., India, Enron for administrative and financial power8 to the panchayati Exploratbn Co , raj institutions; Mld 6 South do- do- (b) If ao, the sxknt to which thl8 kglslatlon has Taptl been Implemented, State-wlar; 125 Wrltton Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sakr) Wr/ttonAnrwrrs 1 2 6

(c) the names of States who have so far failed to G08/C0d Baaed Power Plrnta hold the scheduled panchayati election; and (d) the names of States where State Finance 874. SHRlMATl VASUNDHARA RAJE : Will the Commissions have been set up and have submltted PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : their reports? a (a) the number of gas based and coal based power THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF plants launched by NTPC in different parts of the RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI country; CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. The Constitution (73rd Amendment) Act, 1992 on (b) the installed capacity of each of such coal- Panchayats, which has come into force on 24th April, based and gas-based power plant; 1993, among other things, provides for endowing (c) whether these power plants have started power powers, authority and responslbllities on Panchayat by generation; and the State Legislatures. All the States and UTs where provisions of this Act are applicable, have passed (d) if so, the total MW of power being produced by nescessary State Legislations and have initiated steps each of these plants, separately? to implement them. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF (c) Elections to all tiers of Panchayats are due in POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Orissa,~Lakshadweep and OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES. (DR. Pondicherry. In Uttar Pradesh, elections to Panchayats S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) National Thermal Power In the hill districts are due. In Manipur and Goa, elections Corporation has, so far, commissioned 11 coal based to distrlct level panchayats are due. projects and 5 combined cycle gaslliquid fuel based (d) State Finance Commissions have been set up power projects located in different parts of the country , ;n almost all the States where the provisions of In addition to these, one combined cycle power project Constitution (Seventy-th~rdAmendment) Act, 1992 are (Naptha) -and extension of two existing coal based applcable. The State Finance Commissions are required projects have been approved. . to submlt their reports to the Governor of the respective (b) to (d). The details showing installed capacity States for taking necessary action thereon. SFCs of and generating capacity of the power plants are given Punjab, Rajasthan, Assam, Kerala and West Bengal in statement enclosed. All the power plants which have are reported to have submitled their reports. been commissioned are generating power. STATEMENT Commissioned/On-going Power Projects I Commrss~onedProjects

Name of the Project Present . Generating Location (state) installed capacity capacly (MW) (MW)

Slngrauli STPP (Goal) Uttar Pradesh Rlhand STPP (Coal Unar Pradesh Nat~onCapital Power Project (Coal) Unar Pradesh Feroz Gandh~Unchahar TPP Stage I (Coal) Unar Pradesh Dadrl CCGBPP (Gas) Unar Pradesh Anta CCGBPP (Gas) Rajasthan Auraiya CCGBPP (Gas) Uttar Pradesh V~ndhyachalSTPP Stage I (Coal) Madhya Pradesh Korba STPP (Coal) Madhya Pradesh Kawas CCGBPP (Gas) Gujarat Jhanor-Gandhar CCGBPP (Gas) Qujarat Ramagundam STPP (coal) Andhra Pradssh Farakka STPP (coal) West Bengal Kahalgaon STPP (coal) Bihar Talcher STPP (coal) Orissa Talcher Thermal Power Station (coal) Orissa 127 Written Answers , JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 1 28

11. On-Going Projects

SI. Name of the Project approved present generating location (State) No. capacity installed capacity (MW) Capacity (MW) (MW) 1. Kayamkulam CCPP (Naptha) 400 Nil NA Kerala

111. ON-GOING EXPANSION OF EXISTING PROJECTS 1. Feroz Gandh~Unchahar 420 Nil NA Uttar Pradash TPP Stage II. (coal) 2. Vmdhyachal STPP Stage II (coal) 1000 Nil NA Madhya Pradesh Total II+III 1820

Total I+lI+III 18615 16795 16795 ------.- In addition to above 500 MW for Farakka STPP. Stage Ill is also approved. However, the project is not taken up due to lack of demand in Eastern Region. STPP : Super Thermal Power Project TPP : Thermal Power Project CCGBPP : Combined Cycle Gas Based Power Project CCPP : Comblned Cycle Power Project.

Prices of Petroleum Products ~mplernentation of various projects of Damodar Valley Corporation; : 875. SHRI G.G SWELL Will the PRIME (b) if so, the details thereof; and MINISTER be pleased to state : (c) the steps taken for thew rehabll~tatlon? (a) whether the prices of crude In the lnternat~onai market have registered a fall and will fall further with THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Impending permlsslon to Iraq to sell 2 billton tons of POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY crude; OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES. (DR. S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). There are 20,646 (b) the prevailmg prlce of crude at the world spot famillea (approximately) ousted from the11natlve villages market: and as a result of ~mplernentat~onof varlous Damodar Valley (c) the reasons for the abnormal raise of Corporation Projects. admmstered prtces of petrol and petrol products In the (c) DVC has paid full compensatlon to all the country? affected ousted famhes. All the tnfrastructural fac~ltl~es THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF necessary for day to day Me have been provlded at the PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU). rehabll~tatedsites. First preference has been gtven to (a) and (b) The o~lmarket IS a dynamlc market and the these ousted famllles for appotntment In DVC In 011 prlces are volatile and are governed by changes In workcharged establ~shmentsas well as as muster roll supplytdemand fundamentals: market sentiments. engagements. Under the Soc~alIntegrated Programme pol~ttcaldevelopments In major oil products1consuming (SIP) oustees have also been given soft loans and tree tralnmg lor the~rrehabll~tatlon countries etc. (c) The prlce Increase has been necess~tatedto Salrl Hydro Power Project contarn the deflc~tIn the oil pool account and thus enable 011 companies to ma~nta~nun~nterrupted supply 877. SHRI GHULAM AASOOL KAR , W~llthe of petroleum products In the country. PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

Ourtees of Damodar Valley Corporatlon (a) whether Salal Hydro Power Project IS not generahng the power according to 11s power generattng 876. SHRl CHITTA BASU . W~llthe PRIME capacity; MINISTER be pleased to state : (b) the reasons therefor; and (a) whether a large number of villagers have been (c) the steps taken to Improve ~tsgeneratmg ousted from the~rnatfve villages as a result of the capaclly? 129 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sake) Wrriten Answers 130

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF in proportion to' the geographical area In Akora and POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Pithoragarh h~llydistricts of Uttar Pradesh; OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES. (DR. (b) if so, whether the Government propose to prov~de S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (b). Power generation petrol pump facilities at each Tehsil and Block from Salal Hydro-electric Project of National Hydro- Headquarter; and ( electric Power Corporation, located in Jammu 8 Kashmir. depends, inter-alia, upon the inflow of water. During the (c) if so, the time by which these are likely to be set current year, against a target of 619 million units for the up? per~odApril-June 1996, actual generation has been THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 698.39 milllon unlts. PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS fSHRI T.R. BAALU): (c) The project experiences problems in operation (a) to (c). Retail Outlet dealerships are opened at places In monsoon months due to heavy silt content of water which meet the Oil Industry's Volume-Distance norms whlch causes frequent outages of generating units. and not on the basis of covering each Tehsil and Block NHPC 1s taking technlcal measures to control siltage headquarters. Accordingly, one locat~onfor setting up a and to Improve the performance of the power station retail outlet dealership in Almora distr~ctof U.P, has further. been included in the RO Marketmg Plan 1993-96. It normally takes 1 to 2 years from the date of Conversion of Leasehold Tenure. advertisement to the commlsslonlng of the facility. 878. SHRl SURESH KALMADI : Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state : (a) whether the Government have modified the A.P. State Electricity Board scheme of converslon of leasehold tenure of land into ' freehold In Delhl: and 880. SHRl T. SUBBARAMI REDDY : W~llthe PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state (b) 11 so, the sahent features thereof? (a) whether some time back the Andhra Pradesh THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF State Electr~city Board has requested Power Flnance URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MINISTER Corporat~onfor sanctionmg a loan of As. 280 crores lor OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY executmg the work of Kothagudem Thermal Power AFFAIRS (DR U VENKATESWARLU) . (a) Yes. Sir. Stahon; (b) Modhcat~onIn the scheme prov~defor remlsslon In charges as under (b) 11 so, the reasons for delay; and Rem~ss~onby 5O0,~In the case of or~glnal (c) the tlme by whlch the amount IS likely to be leases In rehablhtat~on colonies In whose released? cases l~rstsale In exempted from payment of THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF unearned Increase and lessees are l~ableto POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY pay nommal ground rent of Re. 11- as per OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR S terms and cond~t~onsof the lease. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) to (c). On an applcat~on Remlss~onIn converslon fee by 33 11370 In made by the Andhra Pradesh State Electrc~tyBoard respect of ready budt tlats/tenements allotted (APSEB). the Power Finance Corporat~onhas already bv DDA, flab constructed by Group Housmg sanctioned an amount of Rs. 280 crores as lease Soc~e~t~esand the tenements allotted, financing for the Kothagudam Thermal Power Stat~on adm~n~steredby LBDO. An amount of Rs. 234.27 crores has already been Remlsslon In converslon charges by 25% In released to the APSEB on the bass of the cla~msmade respect of other leases and also In cases by them. The balance amount w~llbe pald as soon as where propert~eshave changed hands after APSEB rases cla~mstor the supplles made to the TPS seekmg sale permlsslon. pursuant to the As can be seen from the above thew has been no lerms and cond~t~onsof the lease. may on the part of the Power Fmance Corporat~onfor grantmg the loan to APSEB. The scheme has been available to Ihe allotleeslleases In Aslad Vlllage Complex. Militancy in Jammu and Keshmlr Tsnslalron] Petrol Pumps 881 SHRl CHAMAN LAL GUPTA Wdl the PRlME MINISTER be pleased to state SHRl BACHl SlNGH 'BACHDA' RAWAT : W~ll 879. (a) the number of persons kllle&'lnlured and arrested the PRIME MlNlSTER be pleased to state . In Jammu and Kashm~rIn the mllltancy related vlolrnce (a) whether thore IS acute shortage of petrol pumps dunng 1996; Month-w~se. 131 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 132

(b) the number out of them Security Personnels and education and training of the elected members of terroristslsubversives; Panchayati Raj Institutions; and (c) the number of houses, both private and public (b) if so, the details regarding objective behind it including school institutions damaged in the militancy as well as the procedure being followed in this related incidents every month since January this year; regard? (d) the reasons for increasing violence especially THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF of abductions; and RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI (e) the number of extortion cases reported to the CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) Yes, Sir. police and the amount etc, incurred? (b) In the wake of 73rd Constltution Amendment THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Act, lQ92,this Ministry has embarked upon a massive PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS programme for education and training for elected AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF functionaries of Panchayati Raj lnstitutlons through PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. distance mode of education in close cooperation with BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) According to the lndira Gandhi National Open University (IGNOU). The information made available by the Government of Basic objective of the programme is empowerment of Jammu 8 Kashmir, 1372 persons were killed, 1070 were rural masses through elected functionaries for effectwe mjured and 1 192 were arrested in militancy related participation in the process of sell-~overnance.In the vlolence during 1996 (January to June 1996), the initial phase the programme is belng addressed to the monthwise details are as under :- elected members of Gram Panchayats in one selected State, i.e. Madhya Pradesh. A multi-media approach MONTH KILLED INJURED ARRESTED i.e, sefl-learning print matenal. Aud~o-v~deoProgramme January 224 118 99 and contact programmes in local and s~mplelanguages are being used in the project for the benefit of the target February 235 136 94 groups. March 231 100 134 April 259 238 24 1 [Translation] May 234 226 38 June 189 202 39 Annual Plrn Outlay

(b) The persons killed lnclude 702 civilians. 604 883. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : WIII the militants and 66 Secur~tyForce Prsonnel. 795 civilians M~nister of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME and 225 Security Force Personnel were injured. IMPLEMENTATION be pleased to state : (c) 418 private bulldlngs and 92 public buildmgsl (a) the details of annuel plan outlay for the years property were reported to have been damagedldestroyed 1994-95, 1995-96 and 1996-97 for various States In terrorist violence durmg the penod. including Nat~onalCapital Terr~tory of Delh~; (d) As compared to the prevlous year there has (b) the details of major plan heads and sub-!leads, been a reduction in the level of overall violence, State-w~se;and although acts of killmg and abductions of Innocent c~vil~ansby militants have remained at a high level. 352 (c) the deta~lsol the est~matedper-caplta outlay per persons were abducted durmg the period. These trends year for States including Delhl on the bass of the11 reflect the lncreaslng tendency of the terrorists to take estimated half-yearly populat~on,as on date? recourse to sneak anacks agalnst soft targets, and reflect THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF the growing desperation among them caused by PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND Increased and eflective pressure from the Security MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE Forces, as also on account of the vlsible anger and AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K ALAGH) : (a) disillus~onment of the people with thew activities. to (c). The statements lnd~catingAnnual Plan Outlay lor (e) As per lnformatlon made available by the State the years 1994-95 and 1995.96 under different Government. 79 cases of extortlon were reported during MajorlMmor heads of development for all the States the perlod ~nvolvlngan amount of Rs. 14,99,668/- and Un~onTerr~lor~es are prov~dedIn Annual Plrn documents of the Plannlng Commrsslon lor 1994-95 Tralning to The Members of Panchayats and 1995-96 respect~velywhlch are available In the Parhament Library. The Annual Plan outlays lor the year 882 SHRl PARASRAM BHARDWAJ . Will the 1996-97 for the States and UTs have not yet been Mlnlster of RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be fmallred. pleased to state A statement regarding per-capita plan outlay lor all (a) whether a project is belng sponsored through the Stater and NCT of Delh~for the yern 1QQ4.-95and lnd~raGandh~ Nat~onal Open University, Planning of 1995-86 i6 Annexed. 133 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1018 (Saka) Written Answers 1 34

STATEMENT (c) the steps taken to make the SEB's more v~able and effectwe? Annual Plans 1994-95 & 1995-96-States and NCT of Delhi-Per Capita Outlay THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF a (in Rs.) POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S - S. States Annual Plan Annual Plan VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) In vlew of the persistently No (1994-95) (1995-96) unsatlstactory ,physical and financial performance of Per Capita Per Capita State Electrlcity Boards (SEBs) In general, Government Outlay Outlay of India has emphasised In its various commun~calions to the State Governments, the need for reformsl Andhra Pradesh restructuring of the State Power Sector. Arunachal Pradesh (b) Diagonst~cstudies almed at ~mprovingthe Assam physical and financial performance have been initlaled Bihar in several States namely, Haryana. Uttar Pradesh. Goa Rajasthan. Bihar, Andhra Pradesh and Karnataka A new reform legislation namely, the Orlssa Reform Act. Gularat 1995 has been enacted and made eflectwe In the State Haryana of Orissa from 1.4.1996. A few other States are also H~machalPradesh cons~der~ngtakmg similar steps. Jammu & Kashm~r (c) Besldes encouraging the States to restructure Karnataka thelr State Electrlcity Boards. the steps betng taken to Kerala make the State Electrlc~tyBoards more v~ablelnclude Improving the~rgeneratlon, reduclng transmlsslon Madhya Pradesh and distribut~onlosses, reduclng establishment Maharashtra costs, promotmg better management practices and Manlpur project implementation capabllltles and capital Meghalaya restructurtng. Muoram Nagaland Or~ssa Power Generation Punlab +885. JUSTICE GUMAN MAL LODHA Rajasthan SHRI NlTlSH KUMAR : Slkklm Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state Tarn11 Nadu Tr~pura (a) whether the Government have fixed targets for power generat~onIn the country during the nm!h five Unar Pradesh year plan; West Bengal (b) 11 so, the details thereof; Delhl Note Based on population estimates c (c) whether the targets of power generation of the Registrar General of India. seventh plan could not be achieved; (d) ~t so. the facts In lhrs regard; (0) whether the Government have chalked out concrete steps tor achieving target on the bas~sof past Slate Electriclty Board8 expenences; and (I) 11 so, the details thereof' 884. SHRl S.D.N.R. WADIYAR : Will the PRIME MlNlSTER be pleased to stale : THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY (a) whether the Government propose to review the OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DA performance of the Slate Electrlc~tyBoards (SEB's); S. VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) and (bl. No. 8r Targets (b) 1f so, the reactlon of the State Governments for power generatlon In the country for the 9th Flwt Year thereon; and Plan have not yet been hxed 135 Wrrtten Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 1 36

(c) end (d). The target of generation and actual implemented during the last three years for the ach~evementduring various years of 7th Plan was as betterment of the poor people in the rural areas; follows : (b) the achievements of these schemes State-wise ------(In during the last three years; and YEAR TARGET ACHIEVEMENT O/o ------..-.. (c) estimate of the number of people provided 1985-86 170.00 170.3 100.0 gainful employment through these schemes during the last three years, State-wlse? 1986-87 190.0 187.7 98.7 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) : (a) to (c). The major schemes belng implemented by the Government of lnd~a for the betterment of the poor people In the rural areas (e) and (f). To facilitate achieving targets of all over the country are (i) Integrated Rural Devleoprrlent generation several steps including ensuring adequate Programme (IRDP), (11) Jawahar Rozgar Yolana fuel availabil~ty, better managerial practices and (JRY), (ii~)Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) and liquidity, timely plant up keep & maintenance have been (iv) Accelerated Rural Water Supply Programme Initiated. (ARWSP)

lEnglrsh] The objectwe of IRDP IS to enable ~dentlfledrural poor lamllles l~vingbelow the poverty l~neto augment Clearance to Power Projrctrr their Income and cross the poverty l~nethrough acqulslt~onof cred~tbased producl~veassets whlch 886. SHRI E. AHAMED : Will the PRIME would prov~deself employment on a substamed bass MINISTER be pleased to slate : TRYSEM a sub-scheme of IRDP IS also be~ng ~mplemenlatedby the Centre w~ththe alm lo prov~de (a) whether the Union Government asked all the bas~ctechn~cal and manager~alsk~lls to rural youth power projects whlch have been glven in principle from famil~esbelow the poverty hne lo enable them to clearance by the Central Electr~cityAuthor~ty (CEA) to take up self employmenl and wage employment In subm~tthe~r detalled project reports; various sectors of the economy

(b) ~f SO, the details thereof: and The JRY IS bemg ~mplementedwlth the oblect~veto (c) the reasons therefor' prov~degalnlul wage employment to rural poor by creatmg useful community assets, particularly In lavour THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF of SCISTs. The lnd~raAwaas Yolana (IAY) and the M~ll~on POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY Wells Scheme were conlmued as sub-schemes ol JRY OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S. tlll 31 .l2.l995.From 1.1.1996IAY and MWS are bemg VENUGOPALACHARI) : (a) to (c). Yes. Sir. All tne State ~mplementedIndependenlly. The EAS was started on Governments:State Electr~cityBoards have been 2nd October. 1993 In 1758 blocks In 27 States of the dlrected to ensure that the promoters of all the pr~vate country. Thls scheme IS almed a1 provldmg assured sector power projects whlch have been granted 'ln- employment to all persons In rural areas who are below prrnc~ple'clearnace by Central Electrlc~tyAuthor~ty poverty lme and are seekmg employment but are unable (CEA) subm~tthe~r detaded project reports (DPRs) along lo flnd ~t.At present EAS IS bang ~mplementedIn 3206 wlth hrm cost estlmales by 31.31997 for obtalnmg the blocks of the country In rural areas techno-econom~c clearance of CEA. The ARWSP IS bemg ~mplemenledIn rural areas w~ththe maln objective of prov~dmgsusta~nable sale Rural Devslopmont Schemer drmklng water to entlre uncovered rural populal~onIn the country. 887 DR KRUPASINDHU BHOl SHRI K.P SlNGH DEO : The Achievements under dlllerenl programmos lncludmg the number of people prov~dedga~ntul Will IheMinister Of RURAL AREAS AND employmenl under the above schemes durlng the EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state : last three years enclosed as State wise statement.l (a] the deta~lsol the schemes formulated and to IV 137 Wrilten Answers Writlen Answers 138

STATEMENT-I Physical Achievement Under lRDP 8 TRYSEM , ,-----. --- ...... -- ...... --- S StatesIUTs IRDP TRYSEM - -- I No No. of families assisted during No. of trained youth employed -7.--- -..---- 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 a,-.-.- a,-.-.- -.-- --- Andhra Pradesh Arunachal Pradesh Assam Bihar Goa Gujarat Haryana Hirnachal Pradesh JbK Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Man~pur Meghalaya Muoram Nagaland Orma Punjab Ralasthan S~kk~m Tamtl Nadu Tr~pura Ullar Pradesh West Bengal A 8 N Islands D 8 N Have11 Daman 8 DIU Lakshadweep Pondcherry ...... , ...... - .... ,-.- .--- " -- -.- ,. - All lnd~a 2538320 2214390 2050678 150923 131431 13627 1 .,, ...... --., ...... --...- ", .

Expendrture/Emp/oyment Generatron Under EAS . -- -- .. -- .-- SI Name of Ihe Expend~ture Employment Generated No SlatelUT (Rs. In lakhs) (Lakh Mandays) ----.- - --. .--.a 1 2 1993.94 1994-95 1995-96' 1993-94 1994-95 1995.96 ...... - .. -...... ,-*-.-.- - -.------. -- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 - ...... -- -.----..-*------... ----.* ..*.-..-.- .... - 1 Andhr Pradesh 2566.02 13787 18 12249 54 62 42 277 24 252 41 2 Arunachal Pradesh 136.17 862.81 1956.55 3 64 20.84 50.67 139 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 140

Bihar Gujarat Haryana Himachal Pradesh JBK Karnataka Kerala Madhya Pradesh Maharashtra Manipur Meghalaya Mizoram Nagaland Orissa Rajasthan Sikkim Tamil Nadu Tr~pura Unar Pradesh West Bengal A B N Islands D & N Haveli Daman & Diu Lakshadweep .- - .- ., .-....--..- , . 18375.03 123545.28 170966.61 494.74 2739.56 - -- -. - .. - . ' Provisonal Note . EAS IS a demand drlven scheme Hence there IS no targets under EAS

Employment Generated And Expenditure Incurred Under Jawahar Rozgar Yojana .---.------.----.-. - ...- ...... S.No. StatesIUTs Employment Generated Expenditure Incurred -- ..- . -- - .-, . . . .. - -. 1993-94' 1994.95' 1995-96' 1993-94' 1994-95' 1995.96' (lakh Mandays) (Rs. ~n Lakhs) -. -.- - -..-. -, .- -- .- .- . ... - .. .-- .-. - . .. . . 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ". ,. .. . ,,, . .. 1. Andhra Pradesh 1028.90 812.25 701.57 32815.59 36264.38 34556.90 2. Arunachal Pradesh 4.85 5.58 8.24 191.60 222.22 357 12 3 Assam 278.24 263.29 178.08 791 1.51 10386.84 9583.33 4. Bihar 1474.25 986.88 1197.03 68523.99 50731.49 62281.95 5. Goa 8.53 6.45 8.38 353.83 372.24 363.47 6. Gujarat 232.64 258.48 209.42 11715.95 1416606 12824.42 7. Haryana 33.29 33.96 33.50 2164.35 2583.42 3304.78 8. Hlmachal Pradesh 34.54 28.87 21.45 1303.08 1150.10 1001.19 9. JLK 32.16 88.04 48.23 1406.81 3813.23 2534.38 141 Wrltten Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Seka) Wfitten Answers 142

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 ..- .- - 10. Karnataka 651.30 499.67 524.89 19257.68 23746.02 24908.70 11. Kerala 120.43 101.01 127.75 7788.38 7234.60 8888.24 ' 12. Madhya Pradesh 849.24 1075.25 759.46 401 78.27 50503.16 42377.25 13. Maharashtra 1188.50 1100.73 1014.47 27015.01 36760.33 39801.56 14. Man~pur 6.68 7.16 9.34 301.82 370.54 506.22 15. Meghalaya 9.55 8.50 4.86 359.46 407.31 200.28 16. Mizoram 6.32 5.72 5.20 350.70 336.38 284.56 17. Nagaland 16.02 9.47 5.76 668.66 410.70 264.07 18. Or~ssa 522.96 604.51 678.31 21493.65 25542.96 28671.48

20 Rajasthan 450.37 545.58 361.72 15875.91 19909.03 18204.39 S~kk~m Tam11 Nadu Trlpura URar Pradesh West Bengal A 8 N Islands D 8 N Haveh Daman 8 DIU Lakshadweep Pondcherry . . .- ...... Total

Includes lnl~n~lll~dJRY

...-- .. . , .,.-A -. -- STATEMENT-IV 1 2 3 4 5 ------.---.- -.-. Statement showing number of villages~habrtations 15. Meghalaya 743 363 423 covered during 1993.94. 1994-95 and 1995-96 ...... -. - -...- .- - .. -- .- - -- .. .--- . 16 Mlzoram 167 222 242 S No SlaIelUT 1993-94 1994-95 1995-96 17. Nagaland 65 0 59 .... .- ...... " 1 2 3 4 5 18. Or~ssa 5460 7351 8071 ..... - ...... --- 19 Punjab 343 426 293 Andhra Pradesh 1408 2774 3100 20 Ralasthan 2328 3054 4554 Arunachal Pradesh 149 148 224 21 Slkklrn 70 66 158 Assam 751 1536 1233 22 Tam11 Nadu 3751 3808 2954 B~har 3530 7185 11865 23 Tr~pura 21 5 610 1031 Goa 56 62 54 24, Unar Pradesh 6047 17283 19946 Gyaral 4 58 464 1144 25. West Bengal 1750 5372 6490 Haryana 700 845 895 26. A & N Islands 19 20 27 Hlmachal Pradesh 570 800 925 27. D & N Have11 0 112 50 JhK 76 107 426 28 Daman & DIU 2 11 11 Karnataka 5150 4935 8135 29. Delhl 0 0 0 Kerala 164 214 1173 30. 4 2 4 Madhya Pradesh 5963 12138 131 12 Lakshadweep 6350 31 . Pondcherry 2 1 2 8 2 8 Maharashtra 1373 6828 - - ...-- .---- Mmpur 155 170 246 Total 41488 70934 93223 ...... -...------.-. - ...... --- --,-.---- .I43 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answers 144

LPG Distributors STATEMENT The Performance of Power Stations 888. SHRl HARlN PATHAK : Will the PRIME Gas Based During The Year MINISTER be pleased to state : 1995-96 (a) the number of LPG distributors of private sector Station Target Actual %age of oil companies operating in Gujarat as on date; - (MU) (MU) Target (b) the total number of consumers in waiting list; Anta GT 104.3 and Auraiya GT 100.3 (c) by when all the consumers are likely to get LPG Dadri GT 126.5 connections? Kawas GT 93.4 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINSTRY OF Gandhar GT 395.8 PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): K' Guri GT 49.4 (a) to (c).Under the parallel marketing system, private DESU GT 57.5 agencies are free to appoint distributors and register Ramgarh GT 10.7 New customers wllhout any involvement of the Government. Stallon Such ~ntormat~onabout parallel marketeers is not Dhuvran GT 180 78.3 maintained by the Government. However, the total Utran 150 68.7 consumers In walting lists of distributors of Government Utran GT 800 120.2 Oil Compan~esIn Gujarat 1s around 7.95 Lakhs as on Uran GT 4220 115.5 1 4.1996. Vijjeswaram 500 107.6 Efforts are constantly on to release LPG connections B' Brldge 160 to as many applicants as early as possible The plans Namrup GT 393 84 0 have been drawn for h~gheravailabil~ty of LPG by Lakwa GT & Mobile lncreaslng the capacity of exlstlng produchon sources, GT 500 81 6 puttlng up new plants and angmentlng supply through Baramura GT 58 74 1 h~gherImports New Import facllitles for LPG are under Boknla GT 154 71 4 construction at Kandla and Mangalore whlch are Vatwa GT 664 83 6 expected lo be commlssloned In October. 1996. Wlth GlPCL 1000 111 6 thls. the ava~labil~tyof LPG shall be Increased through Trombay GT 775 189.2 enhanced rmporls. New bottllng plants and more LPG . , .... ---- -. . -, -, .. .. dlslrlbutorsh~psare bemg opened by Governmenl 011 Total (Gas based) 231 74 25570 111 6 Companies to cater to h~gherdemand The entlre - - . - ... waltlng 11st 1s expected to be cleared by 2001 A D Rconrtltutlon of Planning Commirrlon Gas Based Power Station8 890. SHRl SURESH KALMADI : Wdl the Mlnlster 889. SHRlMATl VASUNDHARA RAJE . Will the of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION PRIME MINISTER be pleased to stale be pleased to stale (a) whether the Governmenl are aware of the poor (a) whether the Government propose lo take steps performance of the gas.*~asedpower stat~onsIn the for the reconslltutlon of the Plannlng Cornmlss~on,and country. (b) tf so, the detalls thereof? (b) ~f SO. the main reasons thereof, THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF (c) the remed~almeasures taken In thls regard: and PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND {dj the etforts belng made lo Improve the operatwe MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE performance of those gas based power stat~ons? AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K ALAGH) (a) and (b) The matter IS under examlnatlon of Government THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S VENUGOPALACHARI) (a) to (d) Performance of gas based stat~onsIn the country durlng 1995-961s enclosed 891 , as statement It may be seen that most of the gas based SHRl BACHl SlNGH 'BACHDA' RAWAT Will statlons have achieved the target except slallons where the PRIME MlNlSTER be pleased lo slate supply of sufl~crenlquant~ty of gas and load demand (a) whether the number of LPG agenc~erluncttontng were not avadable. Some of the gas based statlons are In the d~strlctsof Uttaranchal region ol Ultar Preadeeh operated only as peak load statlons. are less as compared lo other parts of the country, 145 Writlen Answers ASADHA 26. 1910 (Saka) Written Answers 146

(b) if so, the number of LPG agencies in proportion was Rs. 14550.00 lakhs and Rs. 18187.50 lakhs to population in Hlmachal Pradesh. Jammu and Kashmir, including State share. North-Eastern States and Uttaranchal region; (d) No, Sir. (c) whether the Uttaranchal region has been (e) Does not arise neglected in this regard; and

(d) if so, whether the Government propose to Conrtruction of Road Increase the number of gas agencies in Uttaranchal reg~on? 893. SHRI CHAMAN LAL GUPTA : WIII the PRIME THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF MINISTER be pleased to state : PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): (a) the exact date when the Basohh-Bhaderwah (a) No, Sir. Road Project was taken up for execution: (b) to (d). From the details given below, tt may be (b) the length of the road and ortgmal revtsed seen that people resid~ngin the hill areas of Uttar estimate of the cost and the t~meby which the same IS Preadesh have not been neglected against those In likely to be completed: H~machalPradesh, J 8 K, North Eastern States, In respect of domest~cLPG fac~ltt~es: (c) when the the Bhaderwah-Chamba road Project -. - - .,-..--- was taken up for execution at what est~matedcost and H~ll Hlrnachal J & K North amount spent every year so far with what result and D~str~clsPradesh Eastern total length of the road: and of UP States , , , -. - -- - .- .-.- -.- (d) the reasons for delay In the execut~onof both Populal~on(In lacs) 59.22 51 70 77 18 315 44 these projects? No of I.PG 54 62 8 1 209 THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF dlstnbulors PERSONNEL, PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS No of cuslorn~rs 428 271 2 88 5 99 AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Iln lacs1 PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S R. Ratto of L lac; 114 119 177 152 BALASUBRAMONIYAN) (a) Basohh-Bhaderwah Road cuslomers lo poptrlatmn . . .. . - -...... - . - . . .- ,- .. .. . project was taken up for execution In July. 1996 (b) The length of th~sroad IS 175.8 Kms and the or~gmalest~maled cost 1s Rs 32 42 crores The format~on cuttlng and the surfacmg work of the road 1s hkely to be Diversion of Funds completed by March, 1999 and 2001, respect~vely (c) The earth work of Bhaderwah-Chamba Road 892 DR 1 SUBBARAMI REDDY W~llthe M~n~sterol RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be was taken up In 1971.72 at an estimated cost 01 Rs 3 48 crores Thls work now stands completed By March. pleased to stale 1996, an amount of Rs 3 37 crores has been spent (a) whether Centrally Sponsored Employment The length of the road IS 50 Kms The scheme tor Assurance Scheme was ~ntroducedIn the ~dent~fled ~mprovement'upgradatlon at an est~matedcost of Rs backward areas havmg h~ghrate of unemployment. 3 35 crores was taken up In 1091 By March 1956, an (b) whether the Ch~etM~n~ster of Andhra Pradesh expend~tureof Rs. 11 92 lakhs have been Incurred on had ~nlormedthe Un~onGovernment that the present metalhng of the road. level of allocal~onboth under (EAS) and IJRY are not (d) Due to the prevatlmg securlty sltuatton In the sutf~c~entto meet the assurance of 100 days of area. the State Government had to suspend further work employment to each tamlly. of upgradallon of the Bhaderwah-Chamba Road (c) the aniount released as central asststance under Bhaderwah falls In doda D~str~ctof J S K which has SIX EAS and what IS the amount ~nclud~ngState share: remalned badly affected by mllltancy durlng the last years or so (d) whether Ihc allocation made by the Centre under these programmes have been d~vertedfor other purposes. and Carer Regirtorad By Central Bureau of Inv@rtigatlon (e) 11 so, the deta~lsthereof' THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 894. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL W~llthe RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI PRIME MINISTER be pleased lo state CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) (a) and (b) Yes, Str (a) Ihe number of cases taken up so tar by the (c) The Central ass~stance released under Central Bureau ot lnveslrgat~onIn Nat~onalCap~tal Delh~durtng the last three years. Employment Assurance Scheme (EAS) dur~ng1995.96 Territory 147 Written Answers JULY 17, 1996 Written Answm 148

(b) the progress made in this regard, case-wise; and Sanitation sector and funds relaased as Central and share under a celerated Urban Water Supply Programme during 1995-96 is enclosed as statement. (c) the number of cases in which charge-sheets The outlay for 1996-97 is yet to be finalisrd. have been filed during this period? Urbann Water Supply And Sanitation Outlay for THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1995-96 PERSONNEL PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF STATEMENT

PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. -~ ~ BALASUBRAMONIYAN) : (a) During the last three years, Rwisd allo- Funds rrlrr. i.e.. 1993. 1994. 1995 and 1996 (upto 30.6.96). a total cation tor sd by hQtt of 642 cases were taken up by the CBI in the National 1905-96 In of Urban Ow. Cap~talTerritory. Delhi, for investigation. State Plan dunng 199546 under urban undsr the Cent- (b) As a result of flnallsation of investigations. 402 water supply rally Spansorod cases were disposed off from investigation leaving 240 1 Senctetton Acceleraled cases for mvestlgation as on 30.6.96. sector Urban Walr (c) Chargesheets have been filed In 255 cases by supply Programme the CBI in the Courl of Law during the above period. (Rs. In crores) Drinking Water Andhra Pradesh 895. SHRI HARIN PATHAK W~llthe PRIME Arunachal Pradesh MINISTER be pleased to state : Assam B~har (a) whether the Government have adopted the availability of 40 LPD drinking water per day per head Goa as a national norm for urban areas; Gujarat (b) if no, the norm fixed for the urban areas; Haryana Htmachal Pradesh (c) the number of towns where water supply according to the norm has been made available together JBK with the number of urban areas where such lacilitles Karnataka are still to be prov~ded;and Kerala id) the state-w~seallocatton made in 1995-96. 1996- Madhya Prades h 97 for urban water supply' Maharashtra THE MlNlSTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Man~pur URBAN AFFAIRS AND EMPLOYMENT AND MlNlSTER Meghalaya OF STATE IN THE MlNlSTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY Mizorem AFFAIRS (DR. U. VENKATESWARLU) :(a) and (b). The Nagaland norms adopted for water supply In urban areas are : Orlssa - 125 litres per capita per day (I pcd) for urban Punlab areas where p~pedwater supply and Rajasthan underground sewerage system are S~kkim ava~lable. Tam11 Nadu - 70 1 pcd In urban areas prowded with p~ped water supply but w~thoutunderground Tr~pura sewerage system Utter Pradesh - 40 lpcd for towns w~thspot source/ West Bengal standposts. One source for 20 tamil~eswtthm A 6 N Islands e maximum walk~ngdistance of 100 metres. Chandlgarh (c) Water supply belng a State subject, the town- D 6 N Haveh wlee detarls of posltlon of water supply 16 not malntatned Daman 6 DIU centrally. As per the information furn~shedby Ihe Slate Delhl Governments. 84.33% of the urban population 1s Lakshadweep prov~dedwrth safe dr~nk~ngwater facrl~t~esas on 31 3.93. Pond~che rry (dl The allocatton made by the Plann~ng Commiss~onIn the State Plan under Urban Water Supply 148 Written Anrwrrs ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Writfen Anrwen 150

Qround Wrtrr Drvelopmrnt Agrncy Accordingly, the permanenet settlement of the migrants outside the State is not envisaged. Sustained eflorls 896. SHRI E. AHAMED : WiU the Minister of are being made to restore peace and normalcy In RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT be pleased to state: Jammu and Kashmir and to create conditions conducive inter-aha, to return of the migrants to their horns. The (a) whether the Government propose to set up Central Government is also in constant touch with the ground water development agency on the pattern of the State Govt. and representatives of the migrants in thts central water development agency; and regard. (b) if not, the reasons therefor? THE ~INISTEROF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI LPG Agencies CHANDRADEO PRASAO VARMA) : (a) No, Sir. (b) Ground water development is looked after by 898. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Wilt the the Central Ground Water Board under the Ministry of PRIME MlNSlTER be pleased to state : Water Resources. It is not considered necessary to set (a) the number of persons in wailing 1st for LPG up ground water development agency under the Ministry connections in National Capital Terr~toryof Delh~at of Rural Areas and Employment. Ground Water present: development IS also undertaken by the concerned Departments In the States. (b) the number of LPG connections provided dunng each of the last two years; Kashmlri Mlgrrnts (c) the total number of LPGlPetrol agencles at present in Delh~:and 897. SHRI CHAMAN LAL GUPTA :Will the PRIME (d) the number of the60 agencies allocatbd during MINISTER be pleased to state . each of the last two years and number of them proposed (a) the number of Kashmm mlgrants residmg in to be glven during the current year? vanous camps In and outside the State of Jammu and THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF Kashmlr; PETROLEUM AND NATURAL GAS (SHRI T.R. BAALU): (b) the number of migrants res~dmgouts~de the (a) The number of watt l~stedappl~cants with the camps at varlous places; distributors of Publlc Sector 011 Companies as on (c) the amount spent every year as ex-gratla rellef 1.4.1996 In Delh~IS 7.95 lakhs. and prov~dtngaccommodat~on, health-care et.; (b) The number of LPG connecttons released dunng (d) whether any scheme has been evolved lor thew the last three years In Delht IS as below . settlement. and (Ftgures In lakhs) - (el 11 SO. the deta~lsthereof' Year No ol Connect~onsReleased THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL. PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS 1993-94 0 93 AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF 1994-95 1 29 PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R 1995-96 (Prov ) 0 97 BALASUBRAMONIYAN) . (a) A total of 4740 famllles - -- are llv~ngIn camps In and outs~dethe State of J 6 K. (c) As on 1 4 1996. 279 RO dealersh~psand 259 LPG dlstrlbutorsh~pswere functron~ngIn Delh~. (b) A total of 43. 391 tam~l~esare res~d~ngouts~de the camps In vartous places. (d) Deta~lsof RO and LPG dealersh~psldlstr~butor- shlps allotted durlng the last two years are ~ndtcated (c) Var~ousStates/UTs prov~derollel as per norms; below rates appl~cableIn that State!UT. As per avallable lnformat~onthe yearwise amounts spent from the year 1990.91 to 1994.95 are as follows . . Year 90-91 91.92 92-93 93-94 94-95 (Amount In 21 LPG d~stributorshlpshave been included n the crorer) 50 51 42.81 30.58 30.55 39.23 LPG Marketing Plan 1994.96 tor Delhl Due to non. (d) and (8). Pollcy of the Government In respect of ava~labil~tyof land, and a large number of letters of K8shmrr1 m~grantsIS based on the promlw thrt they ~ntentstill pondmg for allotment of sltes, no now ntad would return lo the Valley as soon as cond~t~ons outlet dealersh~pshave been ~ncludedIn the RO roaronably conducne lo the11 relum cm be created Marketmg Plan 1993-96 lor Doh. 151 Written Answers JULY 17. 1996 Wrrtren Answers 152

.- ,. .. .. -...... -.... [English] 1 2 -...... , ...... -... Patenting of Neem and Turmeric An Improved process for the Rohm B Haas Co preparatlon of novel 899. SHRlMATl JAYAWANTI NAVINCHANDRA hydrogenled plant extract MEHTA : W~llthe Mln~ster of SCIENCE AND havlng d~hyeroaradach~tm TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state : or tetrahydroazadrracht~n. (a) whether the Government have conducted any A process for lsolatlon of a Central Councll for study In patentmg of Neem and Turmer~c: Nlmbat~ktamor N~rntvd~n Research ~nAyurveda horn neem 011. 8 S~ddhaDharma (bl 11 so, the f~rldlngsand recommendat~onsmade Bt~avan. In th~sregard alongwth the names of compariles arid countries. and A process 101 the Tr~col~o-MGmbH preparatlorl of storage Herstel lung (CI the reasons lor makmg such recommendatlons stable azad~rach~t~n-r~ch Undvetrteb Hochre~ner to lore~gncompanies In vleH of the11anc~ent values In extract from components B~osubslanzen. our country? of the neem trce, part~cularly THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF neem seed kernels PLANNING AND PROGRAMMt IMPLEMENTATION AND A process for the preparnt~on MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE of an acllve conipos~t~on AND TECHNOLOGY ISHRI YOGINDER K ALAGHI (at corllalnlny trlterpenes to (ci Government have not conducted any study lncludlng azad~racht~nand pertalnlng to Neem and Turmar~c related patents ~tsder~vat~ves possesslrlg However. patent searches made by some Government rnsecl antlfeedant and growth funded rnst~tut~onsl~ke Technology Informallon ~nh~b~toryactlvlty from parts Forecastmg and Assessment Counc~l(TIFAC). Councll of the neem plant of Sc~ent~flcand lndustr~alResearch (CSIRI have mdlcated that Neem and Turmerc related patents have A process tor the preparatlon CSlR been Issued by varlous Patents Offices lncludmg the of ~nsect~c~dallyactive lndlan Patent Office The Ilst of patents Issued In thts compostl~orlconla~ning regard by the lnd~anPatent Off~ceIS enclosed llp~dstrom the neem plarrt A process fnr the ~solatlonof CSlR STATEMENT nevi trielrrpcne dertvatlvcs ol azadrrachtm from the parts of A - Neem related patents issued by the lndlan neem !ree

Paten! Office lg:.?-lW6 January 1 H . Turmerlc related patents ~ssuedby tht: .- ...... Title Applicant Indian Paten1 Ofl~ce( 1972- 1996 January i - -- . . - ...... , ..... Process for the mak~rigant1 CSIR 1 ? ~nflamalorycornpos~tlon lrom .-...... , ..... , sodtum curcum~rlate Treatment of lieern 611 H~ndustanLever Ltd lmprovcmenls 1r.1 or relalmy CSIR A process for treatlng Hlnduslan Lever Ltd tcr otla~nmypharrnncc~log~cally I Upgradmg I tieem 011 acltvc. ant1 ~nllamaloryagents A process for traallrlg H~ndustanLever Lld from curcumin rupgradlng Neem 011 Havlng h~ghfree fatty ac~dconlent Employment Assurance Scheme A process for the Godre] Soaps Ltd preparatlor, of Nrcm 900 SHRl VISHAMBHAR PHASAO NISHAC) Wdl 011fatty acld d~st~llat~or, the Mmlster RlJHAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT resldue based pestrc~de ol bc pleased to state A process for extractrorl of R Supla Neem 011 ({I! the amount rc!ce~vcdlrum Govrrnmcr~tlor Employment Assurarlce Scheme and lderrl~tredJawahnr A process lor ~solalrvnof H Gupta Holyar Yojana rJRY) and rnllllon wells scheme durlny act~vebltter and odor~lerous Ihe yuar 1994-95 and 1995.96 lor rural developnierit Irl ccjnstrtuents trom neem seeds ...... -. .... - d~slr~ctBanda, 153 WriHen Answers ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Wrrrlen Answers 154

(b) whether the amount released has been utdlsed Tribals Above Poverty Line and the work has been completed. (c) it not. the reasons therefor, and 902 SMT SHEELA GAUTAM SHRl RAMASHRAY PRASAD SlNGH (d) the tlme by whlch the work IS hkely to be completed' SHRl RAMESHWAR PATIDAR : THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF W~llthe Mmlster of PLANNING AND PROGRAMME RURAL AREAS AND EMPLOYMENT (SHRI lmplementat~onbe pleased to slate CHANDRADEO PRASAD VARMA) (a) The lollow~ng laj the percentage of tr~balshvmg above th? poverty amounts were rece~vedfrom the Government (Centre- l~neIn the Eastern States lncludmg B~har Assam. State) by Banda d~str~ctof Uttar Pradesh tor the year Muoram. Meghalaya and Uttarakhand In Uttar Pradesh 1994-95 and 1995-96 agamst the total populahon of these States, and (Rs. In lakhs) ib) the steps berng taken by Ihe Un~onGovernment . , ...... ---- Year IJRY MWS EAS to Improve fhe~rl~v~ng standard' ..... , -...... ,...... , . .. THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MlNlSTRY OF PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION AND MINISTER OF STATE OF THE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY (SHRI YOGINDER K. ALAGHI (a1 (b) The lollowmg amounts has been ulllrsed under The Plannmg Comm~ss~onest~mates State-w~se number Intsns~f~edJawahar Rozgar Yolana (IJRYj, M~lllonWells of persons below the poverty l~neon the bas~sot Scheme (MWSI and Employment Assurance Scheme qulnquenn~alsurvey on the Household Consumer IEAS) durlny 1994-95 and 1995.96 Expenditure conducted by the Nat~onalSample Survey Organlsat~on(NSSOi However, the~restimates are (Rs In lakhsl ...... - - - ...... - ...... - - . ava~lableonly Inrespect ot 17 major states and that too Year EAS IJRY MWS only upto the State level Therefore lnformatlon In .. -. .. .- ..... - -. . - ... . .--... . respect of Meghalaya. Mcoram and Uttarakhand IS not available Based on the Below Poverty ime Est~mates1983- 84 of the Plannmg Comm~ss~on.the percentage of tr~bals (c) The an-3unt could not be fully ut~liseddue to llvlng above the poverty line agalnst the total populat~on delay In !he ~mplemenlal~onot the sanctioned prolects In respect of 3 Eastern States v~z. Assam. B~har.Or~ssa and to some extenl receipt ol funds In February and and West Bengal. and in the State of Uttar Pradesh has March 1996 been worked out for the year 1983-84, as glven belo* (d! The Carry-over funds are l~kelyto be utllised for Percentage of Trtba~sand Tora' Popularton i~vrng completlcm ot works upto November 1996 Above the Pover!y Lme 19834J .--..-.-A ...... --." ..... Stales Scheduled Tr~bes Total Populat~on ..... -...... -. .- -- ...... Rural Urban Rural Urban ISRO Spy Case ...... -.-.-...... Easrern Srares 901 DR Y S RAJASEKHAHA REDDY SHRl E AIIAMED 1 Assam '4 50 79 00 76 24 78 44 1C 60 SHRl MULLAPPAL LY RAMACHANDRAN ? Blhnr 35 20 48 65 62 96 SHRl KODlKUNNlL SUHESH 3 Ortssa 3110 4720 5524 70-1 4 West Bengal 4140 6690 5616 7346 Wdl the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state 5 Utfar Pradesh 54 20 75 70 53 52 59 75 (al whether the Government propose to reopen the ...... ISRO spy case. (bi To improve the llvlng standard ot me tribats 10 (bl 11 so. the reasons therefor, and the above States steps are bemg taken Dy Ihe Union Government through the ~mplementatlonol varlous (cl the delalls thereof7 Poverlv Allev~at~onPragrammes briz Integrated Rural THE MINISTER OF STATE C)F THE MINISTR'r OF Devclopmenf F'fogiamme I IRDP, Tra~nmg31 Rural Vouth PLANNING AND PROGRAMME IMPLEMENTATION ANP tor Selt-Emp~oymcn!1 T RYSE h'? Ocveicprncnt ot Wamen MINISTER OF STATE OF 1HE MINISTRY OF SCIENCE and Children In fiural Areas ~DIYCRAIJwahar Rozga: AND TECHNOLOGY (SHHl YOiilNOER K GLAGHl \a\ Yojarra (JRY I. Employment Assurance Scheme (€AS, No. Slr Drought Prone Area Programme ~DPAPIetc (bl and (c) Does not orlse JULY 17, 1996 156

12.00 hrs. [Translation] (Interruptrons) PROF. RlTA VERMA : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. I would like to say one more th~ng.I agree that in West [Enghsh] Bengal better rehabilltalion work has been done. What can we do, when our State Government is mvolved In SHRl RAM NAlK (Mumbai North) : Sir. please allow ' Animal husbandry scam. It does not get time for me to raise an important matter ...(lnterruptronsl rehabilitat~onof the displaced people. I would demand. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I will call all of you one through you, from the Mmisters of Bihar Government by one. that they should help In rehabilitation of the people. I want that some concrete step should be taken In th~s [Translation] regard. PROF. RlTA VERMA (Dhanbad) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I want to raise a very Important matter in [Englrsh] the House. The Tailpul Dam Project a 40 M.W. Power SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, one part of the Project In Ma~thanregion of Dhanbad was started In projcct 1s In my constituency. I was there on Sunday to 1978 and was to be completed wlth~ntwo or three attend a convent~onorgan~sed by the Samyukta years at an lnit~alcost of Rs. 5.7 crore, but the project Sangharsh Morcha They are demandmg that the works could not be completed till today because of the delay of the Talepool Dam - wh~chIS very ~mportantfor the caused due to negligence and Inactiveness of and the survlval of the Panchet dam and for the Damodar Valley prevalent corruption In the management of D V.C. Corporat~on- be taken up When th~sproject was conceived in 1978 th~swas the only one project w~th [English] that technology and thls type of technology was nowhere SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA (Bankura) : Sir, one In our country. That IS why ~t was delayed by the part of the project IS in my constituency. management of the Damodar Valley Corporatton. When we approached, land was acquved and an amount of MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let her complete flrst. Rs. 11 crore was spent Now the project cost has been [Translation] Increased from Rs. 5.75 crore to Rs. 41 crore. Now they are dec~d~ngto abandon thls project and they are PROF. RlTA VERMA : Now the cost of the project throwmg the respons~b~l~tyon the State Government has escalated to As. 40 crore out of which Rs. 11.5 The State Government IS not responsible We are trylng crore has already been spent. Day before yesterday. to find out a solut~onThe have acqu~redthe land. They the Chairman of the D.V.C. had announced In that area have not glven employment There was an agreement that "the people ol the area were not helplng In with the Government of Wesl Bengal to have land completion of Ihe project and therefore he would stop reclamat~onto provlde l~ftIrrlgatlon. to construct prlmary the work on the project". Ever slnce he made this school buddmgs and also the roads In the vlllages to announcement the people are h~ghlyagltated In that be affected by the construct~onol Talepool Dam, but area. I would hke to say that the ent~redelay has been they have not undertaken those works. Now, they are caused due to the corrruptlon In the D V.C They have dec~d~ngto abandon thls project. If lhat project IS not glven jobs to the actually d~splacedpersons. The abandoned after the acqulslt~onof land, thts wdl not be jobs have actually been glven to the wrong people after In the Interest of the Damodar Valley Corporat~onas takmg bribe. We filed publlc Interest l~t~gat~onand we well as the Interest of the people both In the d~strlctsol won the case. Now slnce employment and compensation Dhanbad and Puruha I urge upon the Mln~ster.who 1s IS to be glven to the actually displaced persons. out of present here. to take up the matter w~thDamodar Valley fear the author~tiesare scared and they are saying that Corporat~onso that they should restrat the projecl the work of thls project would be stopped. Such type of ~mmed~atelyThey should not abandon and should Injustice IS going on. I need your protection and I request undertake the works whlch are to be undertai.en as per you to please Issue d~rectmto the hon'ble M~mster the agreement w~ththe State Government. The Mlnlster that he should make a statement In the House and to IS here and I would llke to request hlm lhat he should take some concrete measures ~n order to pac~fythe take up the matter wllh Damodar Valley Corporat~on resentment and assuage the hurt feelings ol the people. . . . .(Interruptions) In any case, the work on th~sproject should not be MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER . Mr. Mmister, do you want stopped and the Government should make a stalement to say something' to thls effect and assure that Iustlce will be done to the people. THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF POWER AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY [Englrshj OF NON-CONVENTIONAL ENERGY SOURCES (DR. S SHRl BASU DEB ACHARIA : Sir, one part of the VENUGOPALACHARI) : No, Sir. project IS in my constituency In West Bengal. In Purulia DR. JAYANTA RONGPI (Autonomous District) area. I was there a day before.. .(Interrupt~ons) (Assam) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr, 1 want to ralse a very 157 ASADHA 26, 1918 Gaka) 158

Important issue of Bihar. I do not know, with my weak SHRl JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : I shall not del~ver eloquence and lack of forcefulness, whether I will be a long speech and I wlll speak only for a mlnute. able to draw the attention of the Government. In fact, I MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : I shall glve chance to waited for five or six days In the hope that some of the everyone. Please sit down. senlor Members and some of the major pol~llcal formations of this country will rase th~sissue. SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : It IS the senlor Member who get chance to speak most of the tlme. Thls Incident occurred on eleventh of this month in Please give a chance to us also. the village of Bathanitola of Bhojpur dlstrict of Bihar and the elitire nation should be shameful of the SARDAR SURJIT SlNGH BARNALA (Sangrur) . Mr particular day - 21 persons belongmg to dalrt and Muslim Deputy Speaker, sir, a multi-nat~onal company named community were killed. They were not only kllled but Congentrix has been invited to set up a 1000 MW butchered mhumanly by an outlawed organ~sationcalled capaclty power-house at South Canara Post but the Ranv~rSena of landlords. It is unfortunate that such an decislon has led to a b~gcontroversy. People of ten ~nc~dent,such a hemous crime, could not draw the villages are worrled. They have approached the Hlgh attentlon of the Government, where many ot the polltical Court. Their writ IS pending. No global tender was floated parties whlch constitute 11 declare the~rPIOUS Intentton for this power house. Clearance nelther from the of soc~aljustlce. But In the~rown State this lnc~dentof Pollution Control Board nor from the M~nlstryof butchermg of dalrls and rehglous minor~tycommunity Env~ronmenthas been obtained. has taken place It has also faded to draw attent~onof [Englrs major Opposition partles. h] SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Slr. ~t IS not an I draw the attentlon of the Government and hope that the Opposltlon partles will also condemn the lnc~dent urgent matter and demand an explanallon from the Government. There SHRl SURJIT SlNGH BARNALA : It IS an urgent are three aspecls of the ~nc~dent.Thls lnc~dentoccurred matter. Those people are worned. They are golng tram not during n~ghtor m~dn~ghtbut In day tlme, In the p~llarto post on thls Issue. evenlng at 4 o' clock. The banned organlsatlon Ranvir sena of landlords attacked the v~llagelnhablted by dalrls [Translation] and Musllms and kllled 21 persons. I can understand ~t Those people are worried. Many vlllages engaged 11 there had been a f~ght,or there had been a war, or In f~shlngare affected. Many people will be affected if there had been a battle. But these people were the praject comes up there The l~sher~eswill be butchared with choppers and only one person was destroyed. A very'old ram forest IS located there. If that kdled by bullet. project mater~al~sesthere. that raln forest w~llbe MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please be br~ef. destroyed. The habitallon there will also be aftected. The ecolog~calbalance will change there They have DR. JAYANTA RONGPI : It IS a very Important matter. not taken permlsslon from any authority. Nelther lhey Out of 21 persons, 15 were women. 5 were chddren have obtained permlsslon from the M~n~stryot and only one adult male member was there Even the Env~ronmentnor from the State Government In such a fmgers and ears were chopped off. situation the project IS coming up there. Attent~onshould MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please conclude be pald to these aspects. The name of the hon'ble Prime Mln~sterIS belng lnvolved In 11 I wlsh that h~s DR JAYANTA RONGPI . Sir. I do not take much untamted Image should not be spo~led tlme usually I am flnlshlng now Thls was known to the adm~n~strat~on. SHRl G M BANATWALLA (Ponnan~l Mr Deputy Speaker slr I want to rase a very serlous Issue related MR DEPUTY-SPEAKER You have already taken to human bemgs Thousands and thousands of people so much t~me.Please conclude now are apprehens~vethat they may be rendered homeless DR. JAYANTA RONGPI , The Dlstrlct Magstrate was any time Perhaps. Okhla or the whole of Batala House Informed on 3rd July and 8th July, because slmllar colony In Delh~w~ll come In the grip 31 the demol~t~on attacks were planned on those two days In the same act~vltyof the D D A Thousands of people are llv~ng village. I request you to Instruct the Government, the there Anyt~mebefore 30th of the month the sword of Home Mln~ster,to glve a statement on this lnc~dentand D D A demolltlon IS hangmg on thelr heads These are take ~mmedlateaction agalnst the DM and the SP of not huts or lhugg~s These are pucca houses Bhnjpur D~strictof Bihar. (Inlerrupbons) l went there (Interruplronsl

[Translalron] I went there and saw the sltuat~on.The people are asking whether the poor do not have a r~ghtlo live or SHRI JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL (~handn~Chowk, to have a shelter. The Delh~Government had prepared Delhi) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, sir, I have also glven notlce. a list of 1071 unauthonsed colonies and recommended MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please s~tdown. that these colonies should be regularised. But t~lltoday thal recommendation is pending with the Central SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV (Patna) : Mr. Deputy Government and approval from the Centre has not been Speaker, Sir.. . (Interruptions)' accorded. All these poor are Muslims and perhaps for this reason, no importance has been given to them. [English] I therefore urge that action should be taken on this MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : This is not going on important matter. Order for the regularisation of these record. colonies should be issued and steps should be taken (Interruptions) to safeguard them ...(Interruptions) A delegation had met the hon'ble Prime Minister and requested to take MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please sit down. This is action.. . (Interruphons) For how long will it continue? not fair. We talk of the welfare of the minorities inside the House (Interruptions) but when it comes to the question of thousands of Muslims becoming homeless, no action is being taken. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Will you please sit down? Therelore, immediate attention should be given to issue (Interruptions) which concerns human beings. They should be saved, sanct~onfor regularisatton .of their colony should be [Translatron] glven and all measures should be taken to protect the SHRl VlNAY KATIYAR : Your party Government is colony from demolition...( Interruptions) there in Bihar. You should Inquire Into it ...(Interruptions) [English] SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV (Patna) : Your members SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA (Kottayam) : Sir, are there in Lok Sabha, all of them belong to Bhartlya this is the same issue. Janata Party... (Interruptions) SHRl NIRMAL KANTl CHATTERJEE (Dumdum) : SHRl VlNAY KATIYAR : Your party IS in power at Sir, this is the same issue, therefore he should get the both the places... (lnterruptions) opportunity. [English] [Translation] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please Men to h~m. SHRl JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, thousands of people will be rendered [Translatron] homeless. I have given notice to you. Please allow me Please listen to his reply. Please take your seats to speak for a second ...(Interruptions) These people first. have permanent ration cards and they have been livmg these for last thirty years. They also have their voters THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS (SHRI RAM VlLAS ldentity cards. Now an attempt is being made to render PASWAN) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the Issue raised by them homeless by issuing them notices. Their only fault hon. Member is not a Hlndu-Mushm issue. I do not have is that all of them are Muslims. They want to uproot the any information about it. So far as his allegation against residents with the sole aim of harassing the Muslims. the Government is concerned that notlces have been thee are so many unauthorised colonies in Delhi but Issued under present reglme, I would like to state that there IS no plan to uproot any of them. Just because last time when our party was in power in 1990, Issue the Mushms and the poor people are res~dlngthere that of slums particularly wlth regard to Delhi slums was IS why such an attitude is being adopted In their raised and we had glven unambiguous dlrectlves that case ...(lnterrupt~ons) The United Front Government IS the people residing In jhuggl-jhompadts would not be trying to uproot them by Issuing notices ...(lnterruptions) uprooted at any place ...(Inlerruptions) Shri Paswan ji, please listen to me, this IS a conspiracy to uproot the Muslim. They have been Issued notices SHRl JAI PRAKASH AGARWAL : These are not after your Government came to power ...(InterrupHons) jhuggis. They have pucca houses. That 1s not a jhuggi They have pucca houses in that colony. This Government jhompadi area. does not want to recognise that colony. I seek your SHRl RAM VlLAS PASWAN : Just listen to me first. protection. Please have mercy on the poor. They are also the citizens of India...( lnterruptions) Please glve Many people, not only from this area but from other them protection.. .(Interruptions) areas also, had come to us also. Whatever the hon. Member has stated In this reghrd and the suggestion SHRl MANORANJAN BHAKTA (Andaman and he has given... (lnterruphons) Nlcobar Islands) : The Government should do something for them... (Interruptions) SHRl MOHAN RAWALE (Mumbai South-Central) : All of them are IS1 agents ...(Intefruptions) IS1 agents are SHRl VlNAY KATIYAR (Fairabad) : Such a brg scandal has taken place In Bihar but hon. Minister has also living there.. .(lnterrupHons) not given any statement in this regard...( Interruptions). Not Recorded.

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electricity would be provided to Ambedkar villages within twelve thousand or eight thousand feet. If the one year. Sir, please ask for a report regarding the Communication link had not broken down they could entire area of Uttar Pradesh and the progress made by have informed the airport. There was so much of fog the Electrlc~ty Board with regard to the Ambedkar because of bad weather that the pilot could not see that villages In U.P. I would like to tell you about my district there was a mountain ahead and the air crash took S~tapurthat the Electricity Board has not electrified even place wherein nine lives were lost. Same thing a single village there. Indolent and corrupt officials are happened on 9th July two years ago not at the same occupying the offices in every district ...(Interruptions) . place but at some other place. There too the reason The Chairman of the Electricity Board takes bribes of was bad weather conditions. Hence I would like to draw upto one crore rupees and as they rise to the position the attention of the Government to two points. Firstly, of Cha~rmanby giving bribe themselves, they make up all the pilots have commented earlier also about the for it later by accepting bribes. Every month a minimum wrong placement of the air traffic control tower but the amount of two lakh rupees goes to the Chairman of officials kept on looking for other reasons to hide' their Electricity Board from my district. Hence I would like to own mistakes. The antenna placement 1s also wrong. put forth a few polnts. Firstly, the tower should be shifted elsewhere and Firstly 1 would like to state that a report pertainmg secondly VHF facility should be prov~dedso that the to Ambedkar villages and especially the Ambedkar contact with the pilot could be mamtamed through that villages of Sitapur should be obtamed as to how much facil~ty. electrificat~on work has been completed over there. Secondly the Electricity Board 1s imposmg power cuts Since thls is a mountaln region when one goes up which IS causing heavy losses. Slr, as the monsoon has to a certaln helght and then lowers Into valley, thls VHF already set in, it cannot be said that there is a shortage facility can prove to be more useful and effectwe here of water. The reservoirs are full even then the electrlc~ty rather than In the plains, This IS the science age. We Board is deliberately d~vertmgthe power to large scale should invent such a dev~cew~th the help of whlch the industries while neglecting the small scale mdustr~al~sts link would not be broken down in case the pllot enters and farmes. thlck forest Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, electr~cityfailure 1s also a constant problem. The alrport authorit~esshould Slr, I seek your protection and request you to ask make arrangements In th~sregard too. If the alr traff~c for a detailed report and to conduct an enqulry to pmpolnt the corrupt offlc~als. IS suspended In H~machalPradesh, the tourlsm would suffer. Therefore. I urge the Government to undertake [Englrs h] safety measures at the earllest by paying attent~onto the aforestated pomts so that the alr traff~c1s operated SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA . Sir. I would like to smoothly. raise a very lmporiant Issue ...(Interruptrons) MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Mr. Yadav, please speak. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : You will get a chance Now you s~tdown. SHRl RAJESH RANJAN allas PAPPU YADAV (Purnea) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I am ralslng an Issue pertalnlng to Bihar and if I were to mentlon all the SHRl SUKH RAM (Mandi) : Mr. Deputy Speaker. madents In thls House almost all the Members would Sir. Hon M~nlsterhas glven a statement about the get aggravated. Just now Shr~Katar~a was speakmg a~rcrashthat took place In Hmachal Pradesh on 1 lth about the midents that occured In Aara It 1s true that However as no supplementary IS asked and no wherever such type of lnc~dentsoccur the relgnrng clar~fcat~onIS sought regardmg the statement glven by government 01 the place has to share the blame lor 11 the Mln~sterIn Lok Sabha. hence I would l~keto draw to a certaln extent. But whlch organlsat~onIS respons~ble the attention of the Government to two or three pomts lor thls ~nc~dentand for k~ll~ngthe Har~lansand the In the Zero hour The Mmster has glven the statement Musl~msvWho IS protectlng thls organ~sat~on?5000 that so long as the secur~tyor safety measures are not members of Ranv~rSena stormed Into a Har~jancolony undertaken. the alr traff~cshould be suspended. Th~s1s and for the hrst tlme ..(lnterrupl~ons) what I gathered from hls statement SHRl CHAMAN LAL GUPTA (Udhampur) : Mr Slr, ever since the prlvate companies have started Deputy Speaker Sir, the Home Mln~sterhas already operating In Hlmachal Pradesh, they have shown a glven a statement regardmg th~sIssue ...( Inferrupfron) very good performance The tourlsm of Kullu Valley and Hlmachal has benefited a lot as a result thereof. A few polnts however are worth mentlonlng in thls regard SHRl RAJESH RANJAN ahas PAPPU YADAV The day the alr crash took place. the communrcat~on ..( Inlerruplrons)' lmk had snapped just one mlnute back. Commun~cat~on lrnk could not be mamtamed wlth the a~rporl As that MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : This will not go on record. place 1s a part of my Parliamentary Constituency and has been my Assembly Constrtuency as well, I-have seen 11 The a~rcraftwas flying at a height of approx 165 ASADHA 26. 1918 (Sake) 166

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please sit down. SHRl VIRENDRA KUMAR SlNGH : We have also (Interruptrons) '. . . given our names. Names are not belng called out accordmg to the 1st. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER . ~oth~"~will go on record. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : 1 have a typed 1st whlch (Inferruptrons) contains 70 names. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Mr. Yadav, will you sit down? I am asking you to sit down. [Englrsh] (Interruptrons) SHRl P.R. DASMUNSI (Howrah) : Those who gave the not~ceshould get priority. It IS not that anybody can MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please s~tdown. Mr. raise hands and get a chance to speak That IS the Yadav, behave properly. d~rectlonof the Speaker and yourself Those who have (Interruptrons) given the notice should get priority, MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Mr. Paswan, please, [Translatron] control your Member. SHRl NlTlSH KUMAR : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, I (Interruptrons) was askmg for your permlsslon time and agaln to draw MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Please s~+?i)v~nBehave the attention of the House towards a d~fferentsub~ect properly. altogether. Thls quest~onis regarding the loans to . farmers waived off upto ten thousand rupees by the (Interruptrons) previous Un~tedFront Government headed by Shri V.P MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER . Mr Paswan, please ask Singh. Thls scheme was known as loan walvers The your Member to s~tdown. succeeding Congress Government also continued thls programme. But I state ~11thregret that the loans of the [Translafron] farmers whlch were pronounced to be wa~vedotf, are SHRl RAJESH RANJAN ahas PAPPU YADAV : What belng recovered with Interest In Blhar. Through you I 1s thls Ranvlr Singh Sena?...( lnterruphons) would l~keto ask the Government to glve a statement as to whether the Central Government has glven its MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER It IS not a publlc meetlng. share of money to the State Government. Who IS gu~lty- Thls 1s Parhament: please sit down the State Governments or the bankmg institut~ons' After (Interruptrons) enqulrlng Into II,the loans of farmers warved off earlier under that criter~onshould stand wawed The Certifcates [Englrshj bemg rssued or any action belng taken In this regard MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : Please s~tdown first. should be stopped. Mr. Deputy, Speaker, Slr. the incldent of Bholpur [Translafron] needs outr~ghtcondemnat~on If vlolence. In thls way. (Interruptrons) enters the pollt~ons.~t will be very dltflcult to solve any MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : This 1s Parhament House. problems of the country The way, the women and the not a publlc place. ch~ldrenwere butchered, those havlng fa~thin non. v~olenceand the Constitut~on,feel thoroughly ashamed. [Englrsh] One should not lake pol~ticalmileage by ralslng this questlon but all of us should ponder over ~t as to how You will have to behave properly. Otherwise I will such lncldents should be stopped Such violence. have to thmk of some other thmg Yes. Mr Nltish Kumar. created ellher by 'Ranbir Sena' or MCC. should be /Translatron] condemned and thus thls incident should be condemned. Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr. I would Ilke to (Inferruptronsl condemn thls lncldent but 1 object the way in whlch Dr Rongp~has ralsed this question The hon Home Mlnlster [Englrs h] has made a statement In this regard In the other House MR DEPUTY SPEAKER . You all have to mamtaln The hon Pr~meMlnlster had mentioned this lncldent In the d~gnityof the House. thls House In some other context. He wanted to go there but could not glve this Idea a concrete shape [Tr~nslatron] Eveit. body 1s concerned about this lncldent Everybody SHRI VIRENDRA KUMAR SINGH (Aurangabad) , has condemend this lncident but the way. In which the Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr, where IS my name" Members of Samajwadi Party have mentioned th~s lncldent, IS deplorable It IS a dltterent matter that Shr~ MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : There are 70 names In Chandradeo Prasad Verma. a Member ot Janata Dal thls Ilst. ----.---- - who IS also a M~nlster in the Unron Government. Not Ruorded represents that constituency. Some days ago. he had 167 JULY 17, 1996 168

made a statement that he wanted to solve the Minister-Shr~lndrajit Gupta. He has made a befitting conlrontation between Ranbir Sena and himself by statement. peaceful methods. It was really a praiseworthy statement on this issue. The Janata Dal candidate had won the [Englrsh] election from there. On the second position was the THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS Samata Party condidate Shri Ram Prasad who had also AND MINISTER OF TOURISM (SHRI SRIKANTA JENA) the support of Bharatiya Janata Party. If some incident : Sir. the killmgs thal took place in Bihar by the so called takes place there it is given polltical colour. It is really 'Ranbir Sena'. ..(Interruptions) condemnable that the name of the outfit responsible for the murders, has been attached with Bharatiya Janata [Translatron] Party. Nothing can be more condemnable than adding Nitishjl. please listen. Today, the hon. Home Minlster the name of Samata Party candidate to the outflt merely has gone to Bihar lor on the spot study. He will come because he was in the fray of election. I would like to back by 7 p.m. and then a detalled statement will be urge upon you to expunge any such statement, sentence made in the House though the House is aware about or part of it in which allegation has been levelled agalnst what happened there. Bes~desallegation and counter- BJP or Samata Party because nobody enjoys the rlght allegation in the House. the hon. Home Mtnlster himself to serve h~spolitical interest. So far as such incidents has gone to fmd out the facts and will be back In the are concerned, these should be condemned and evening. Tomorrow, a statement In this regard will also concrete steps should be taken to stop the recurrence be made in the House. ..(Interruptrons) of such incidents. Whatever is happening In Bihar. specially in Central Bihar - be it the confrontation [Englrsh] between MCC and CPIM(L) ...(Interruptions) MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I have called Shrl Jitendra [Engbh] Nath Das. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Shr~Yadav, behave PROF. JITENDRA NATH DAS (Jalpalgurl) . Mr properly, please sit down. Deputy-Speaker. Sir. I would hke to draw the attention of the Government of lnd~ato the embargo imposed by ~mnslatron] the Government of lndla on MPs Local Area Development Fund and the lnterast earned out of thls SHRl NlTlSH KUMAR . There IS a confrontatlon Fund between CPIM(L) and MCC. Both of them are leftist organisations and both are involved Into ferocious All the old schemes have been suspended since confrontation. At some places MCC has confrontatlon long. The Government IS requested to wlthdraw the with other people. The MCC activists attacked the embargo on the MPs Local Area Development Fund workers (sf Janata Party and the workers of other partles. and the Interest earned out of it In order to enable the Not only at one place but at many other places with D~strictMag~strates lo execute the old and new schemas Male.. .(lnterruptrons) ~dentlfiedby the MPs .(/nterrupt~ons) SHRl G.M BANATWALLA : Sir. it IS an Important [Englrsh] Issue The Government should pay attenhon to this SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA . Slr, how much problem (Interruptrons) tlme are you gomg to gtve h1m7 There are also other SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA . I would l~keto issues to be rased...( lnterruptrons) draw the attention of the House to an Important Issue [Translation] It pertains to my home State, Kerala SHRI NITISH KUMAR : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir, the [Translatron] activities of Male have been incitlng vlolence at othe MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Do you want to say places also. All the partles should ponder over the anything for the Development Funds? His point was measures to stop the violence and seeing ~t In the regardlng MPs Development Funds context of any particular State, will not solve any problem. I would like to urge upon the Union Government to call lEnghsh] a high level meeting to thmk over the measures to stop the vlolence and everybody should condemn such SHRl SRIKANTA JENA Slr, as regards the MPs activit~es.So far as the State Government is concerned, Local Area Development Fund, there was some problem I do not want to MYanythmg about it. I just want to I think that it has been sorled out by the Minister associate myself with the statement made by the hon. concerned. He met the hon. Speaker also I hope by Home Minister In Rajya Sabha that the State afternoon I will be In a posltlon to tell the House what Government is ~nefftcientand ineffectwe. It has been exactly has been done. ..(lnterrupt/ons) stated by the hon. Home Minister in Ralya Sabha and SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA . Sir, I would lily to in this regard I would like to honour the hon. Home draw the attention of Ihe House through you to a very ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) important issue which is agitating the people of Kerala. these coins like the difference In the coins of 25 paise, The hon. M~nisterof Food and Civil Supplies IS sitting 50 paise and one rupees' denominations. Rikshaw- here. In the Chief Ministers Conference also, the Kerala walas, autorikshaw-walas and the poor shopkeepers Chief Minister ratsed this issue. According to the Press are facing a lot of ditficulties. I would like to request the reports, the Government of India is proposing to change hon. Finance Minlster to transfer the officer concerned the Public Distribution System for the purpose of in RBI responsible for dolng so Notes of One, two and excluding some people from the list. If this proposal 1s five rupee should be such, as can be eastly indentifled. implemented, a large number of people will be out of Has the RBI turned bankrupt. The new notes should be Public Distribution System. 1 can understand the printed. It is an Important issue and it concerns purpose. But tf there is any misuse of the system, the everybody. Therefore the hon. Finance Mtnister should Government can definitely streamline the system. But if make a statement In this regard...( lnterrupfions) we implement this new proposal whch 1s formulated by SHRl P. NAMGYAL (Ladakh) : Mr. Deputy Speaker, the Government, a large number of people will be out Sir, you know that the Ladakh region of Jammu and of the system. The State of Kerala has already expressed Kashmir remains closed for seven months In the year. its reservatlon about this proposal. Nearly ninety per Thts tlme 11 was closed for eight months and after cent of the people of Kerala are dependant on the remaining closed for eight months. the roads are Publlc Distribution System. Excluding people above opened. The Border Security Force IS responsible for povertyltne, a large number of people will be beyond the reach of PDS. The price of Foodgrains will also maintatning the road but that organisat~on1s not Increase in the State. In the Chtef Ministers Conference maintalntng the road properly. It is marred wlth also, reservatton had been expressed about th~s corruption. Trucks get stuck there and the bulldozers proposal. All the other polit~calparties In the State have charge thousands for ruees for towing them away. glven representations to the hon. M~ntsterto have a Secondly, the CCP of army 1s maintatnlng the trafflc In fresh look on thls proposal for revamping ol the Publlc that area and they,allow only any trucks. Atleast 400- Dlstrtbutlon System. The Mintster for Food and Clvil 500 trucks of army are allowed dally and only 30-40 civilian trucks are allowed. As a result the famlne rellef Supplies IS sittlng here. I would hke to hear from him as to what 1s the positton on thts very Important Issue work in Ladakh d~dnot open In time and closed early. which is agitating the mmds of people of Kerala This year, the situatton IS that neither salt. flour, rice, match boxes nor edible oil 1s available there. We have only two and half months left for supply and if the supply is not completed within this period, the situation THE MINISTER OF FOOD AND THE MINISTER OF In Ladakh will worsen. CIVIL SUPPLIES, CONSUMER AFFAIRS AND PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION (SHRI DEVENDRA PRASAD YADAV) : I, through you. would l~keto urge upon the hon. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Str. I have collected the tntormat~on. Defence Mlnlster to Issue necessary ~nstructionsto army The hon. Member has expressed doubt because he 1s authorities to allow the civilian vehicles madequate unaware of the facts. The proposed new scheme 1s numbers. The army is harasstng the people there and under constderatlon of the Government. Therefore, I extorting moDey for entry. Such practlce should be shall keep In mmd the doubts rased by the hon. stopped and qome permanent arrangement should be Member In thts regard. made for regular supply. I would llke that the ctviltan trucks and army trucks should be allowed In equal SHRl BANWARI LAL PUROHIT (Nagpur) : Mr. number. I would like to urge upon you to bring II to the Deputy Speaker, Slr, I would like to bring a matter of notlce of the hot3 Defence Mtnlster ...(Interrupttons) natlonal Importance to the knowledge of the House The common man either do not get the notes of Rs. one, Rs, two and Rs. ltve denominallon or they get sotled notes whlch are good tor nothlng. The prlntlng of MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Let htm speak l~rst notes of these denommations should have been slopped (Inferruplrons) but new notes of these denommattons can be obtalned at 20 per cent or 25 per cenl black. This situatton 1s prevalent In the enttre counlry. Sir, new colns have SHRl RAJlV PRATAP RUDY (Chhapra) Mr. Depury been mtnted tn the country. You loo would have vlsited Speaker, Slr, lhrough you I would ltke to draw the foretgn countries and seen that cotns of different attentton of this House towards an Important tssue. In denominations have different sizes, but the Government Bodhgaya area of Bihar, recently 300 human skeltons In our country has mtnted colns of Rs, one, two and ftve have been found In four bags. These skeltons are of denominations of the same size which are very difhcult chlldren and adulls between the age of 5 years to 35 to ditterentlate in darkness. In place of Rs. one. years. These skeltons have complete bones of human somrlimer two or he rupees' coins are glven The body. I would like to draw the attention of the Hwse poor farmers and the unoducated'are facing a lot o! towards d because as per the customs of H~ndusdead difficullier. Then should be difference in the sue of body is burnt and according to the cu8loms ot Mwbm 171 JULY 17, 1996 Papers Lard 172

dead body is burled in graveyards. Now question arises MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : How you can be on point that howcome such a large number of human skeltons. of order when there is no issue before the House. Thls matter IS being hushed up on the plea that these were gathered by traders durmg a perlod of time B~har [English] IS a state where in fodder scam it was told that 5 or 10 There IS no Issue betore the House. So, there is no buffloes were taken on a slngle scooter in vlew of such question of any polnt of order. a falsehood. In today's situat~on~t may be poss~blethat Now. Papers to be Laid these human skeltons are of Congress workers or BJP workers. Killmg 01 30-40-50 persons 1s a common thrng In Blhar, thus ~t is an important Issue. The Government has no reply to it and trymg to hush up the matter by 14.01 hrs. hkmg it with traders. Thls requlres a thorough Inquiry Does the Janata Dal Government of Bihar have a gas PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE chamber hke Nazis In Germany. In such a situat~ona statement on B~harshould be given by the Government [English] I would llke to know the reasons behlnd these human Reports of the Comptroller and Audtior skeltons This matter should be Inquired Into General of India, Union Government for 1995 etc. [English] THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER . Okay. that IS enough PERSONNEL. PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS Thank you. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S R. SHRI PR. DASMUNSI : Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr. I BALASUBRAMONIYAN) On behalf of Shr~ P would hke to draw your attent~onto a serlous mattel Ch~dambaram.I beg to lay whlch concerns the Radway Mlnlstry. (1) A copy each of the lollowmg Reports (Hlnd~and 13.00 hrs. Engl~shverslonsl under art~cle 151( 1) of the For the last one week Illegal coal-m~n~ngIn Constltut~on - Dhanbad area has caused serlous threat to superfast (I) Report of the Comptroller and Aud~tor radway track between Dhanbad and Calcutta. Zee TV General ol Ind~a-Un~onCiovernment (No Network have exposed the threat yesterday threadbare 1 of 19961 lor the year ended the 31st A lot of villagers are pancky The people are l~v~ngIn March. 1995 (Ctv~ll the colon~esw~th~n half-a-k~lometre of the ra~lwaytrack [Placed In L~brarySee No LT-106196) Rajdhan~Express and superfast trams are In danger (111 Report 01 the Comptroller and Aud~tor lnternat~onalexperts have expressed the oplnlon General of Ind~a-Un~onGovernment (No that it the Ra~lwaysdo not cautlon the coalmlne author~ty. 2 of 19961 for the year ended the 31st a dangerous acc~dentmay take place March. 1995 (CIVI~) I would request the Ra~lwayM~n~ster to yet In touch [Placed In L~brarySee No LT-107!96] wlth the coalm~neauthor~ty lmmed~ately and take ~mmedtatesteps to prevent any kmd of accldent In that (III) Report ol the Comptroller and Audttor place General of Ind~a-Un~onGovernment (No 7 ol 1996) for the year ended the 3tst MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Now the House stands March. 1995 (Posts and Telecomm- adjourned 1111 2.00 P.M untcatlons I 13.01 hrs. (Placed In Llbrary See No LT-108/96] (2)A copy of the Un~onGovernment Appropr~at~on The Lok Sabha then adjourned for Lunch hll Accounts (Clvtl) lor the year 1994-95 (Hind1 and Founeen of the Clock Engl~shvers~onsj [Placed In Library See No LT-109/96] 14.00 hrs. 13) A copy 01 the Un~onGovernment F~nance Thp Lok Sabha reassembled alter Lunch at Accounts for the year 1994.95 (H~ndland Founeen of !he Clock Enghsh versions)

fMr Deputy Speaker 111 !he Chair) [Placed In L~brarySee No LT- 110196) (4) A copy of the Un~onGovernment Appropr~al~on Accounts (Poslal Servce) lor the year 1994-95 SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT IShajapur) Mr (Hlnd~and Enyhsh versions) Deputy Speaker. Str, I am on a potnt of order [Placed In L~brarySee No LT-111I96J 173 ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) 174

(5) A copy of the Un~onGovernment Appropr~at~on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER . The Government has Accounts (Telecommu~cat~onServ~ces) for the made a promise. It may come by evening. year 1994-95 (Hindi and Engl~shverslons) SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT : 1 am raislng a [Placed In Library See No. LT-1 12/96] pomt of order because just now Shr~Jama has glven (6) A copy each of the lollowmg papers (Hlnd~and mformatlon that hon. Home Mln~sterIS out of Delh~today E,nghsh vers~ons)under clause (c) (IV) ol the Then who will follow your Instructions. It IS my humble Proclamatlon dated the 18th July. 1990 Issued submiss~onto the Cha~rthat the Government IS showmg by the Presldent In relatlon to the State of Jammu carelessness In th~smatter I therefore, urge the Chalr and Kashmlr .- to d~rectthe Government to make a statement In th~s regard. It IS a lax~tyon the part of the Government that (I) F~nanceAccounts of the Government of Jammu .and Kashm~rtor the year 1994- such lncldents have taken place at rehg~ousplaces like 9 5 Ujla~n. Harldwar. Onkareshwar and Patna . . . ( Interruplrons) [Placed In L.~brarySee No LT-1 13/96] SHRI RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl (Jhansi) : It 1s an Appropr~at~on Accounts of the Important polnt of order iInterruptrons) The lnstructlons Government of Jammu and Kashm~rlor the year 1994.95 were issued to the Government to make a statement In th~sregard and t~mefor the statement was also f~xed [Placed In L~brarySee No LT-114'961 ( Inferrupt~ons~ (7) A copy of the Report (Hlndl and Engl~sh SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT : Mr Deputy verslons) of the Comptroller and Aud~tor Speaker. Sir, why your orders are bemg lgnored Gcnrvnl of Ir~d~aiGovcrnmcnt of Jamrr,u and I Interruphons) Kashm~rllor the year ended the 319 March 1995. under art~cle 15112) of the Const~tut~on MR DEPUTY SPEAKER I hope that M~n~sterwould read w~thclause IC! iwr of the Proclamatlon make statement by 5.00 PM loday dated the lB!h July. 1990 Issued bv the SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl Mr Deputy Presldent In relat~onto the Stale of Jammu and Speaker. Sir, your orders should be obeyed Kashm~r ( Interruplrons) [Placed In L~brarySee No LT-1 15'961 DR LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY [Mandsaur) The 181 A copy of the Cons~gnment (H~ndrand Engl~sh ~nc~dentsof Harldwar and Ujlaln were heart-rendmg vers~ons)to the Economc' Survey 1995-96 i Interruptronsi [Placed In L~brarySee No LT- 1 16'961 MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Please Men to me Hon. M~n~sterhas sa~dthat ,'Transla!~on) ilnterrilplrons, SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT ~Shalapurt Mr SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl There should be Deputv Speaker Slr when you occupy the Cha~r 11 some lnstructlons trom the Chalr Thls Government means that House IS conduct~d ( Islerrupt~o~~sl should be brought Into dock as I! IS not l0110w1ng your MR DEPUTY SPEAKER There was no busmess ~nstruct~ons(lslerruptronsi before the House when you were on a polnt of order MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Please llsten to me I am referrlng to the statement iEnglrshj ( Inlerruplrons) Let the Papers be lald MR DEPUTY SPEAKER L~stenlo me tor lust a [Translalion,' mlnute SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT Please l~stento SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT Mr Deputy my submlss~on Speaker. Slr. Your orders are bemg Ignored Th~s MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Yes Please Government IS not complying w~thyour orders SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT SII day helore MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Please l~stento me yesterday you have lssucd lnstructlons to the rEnglrsh; Government from th~sCha~r that a statement should be made on lhe lnc~dentof Ulpn and yesterday Mr Speaker THE MINISTER OF STATE OF THE DEPARTMENT has also gwen lnstruct~onsto the Government to make OF LEGAL AFFAIRS LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT AND slatement on the '~nc~dcntol .Ullaln ..- and -A Harldwar DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE iSHRl RAMAKANT D Econom~~Survey 1995 96 was latd on the Table ol the KHALAP) Sir d there IS anh d~rect~onto the Government Houw on Ihp ??Vr Fehrunrv 1996 by the Cha~r.11 w~llbe comphed with 175 JULY 17, 1996 Papers Laid 176

[Translatron] [English] MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Besides my directions. SHRl RAMAKANT D. KHALAP : Whatever direction Minister had promised to make a statement the next is given by the Chair will be complied with. day as yesterday there was no time. . . . (lnterruptfons) SHRI E. AHAMED : We can wait only till six of [English] clock. SHRl RAMAKANT D. KHALAP : We will carry it out, Sir. [Translatron] SHRl S.R. BALASUBRAMONIYAN : The Min~ster DR. RAMESH CHAND TOMAR (Hapur) : Mr. Deputy said that he would be v~sitingthe place and that is what Speaker, what happened to Zero Hour? You have glven he 1s domg today. assurance that every Member will get a chance to speak...(Interruptions) SHRl E. AHAMED (Manjeri) : Sir, the Minister has gone to v~s~tthe place In deference to the wish of the MR DEPUTY SPEAKER : Just a m~nute.One House ...( lnterruptrons)... Now, how can we ask the Member should speak at a tlme. Mmster to come back from Patna to speak here SHRl GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA (Jaipur) : You have sa~dthat all the Members would get a chance to [Translation] speak in Zero Hour. SHRI THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT : Mr. Deputy MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : Zero Hour is over now. Speaker. Sir, what IS your ruling on my point of order. Now we shall take up matter under the Rule 377. Day before yesterday you have glven ~nstructlonsand a statement was to be made yesterday but it was not made yesterday, hon. Speaker had given instructions 14.14 hrs. and the statement was to be made here today but now hon. Home M~n~steris out of Delhi. In view of the PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE-CONTD. collective responsibihty of the Government some other Notlfications under All India Mmster should make a statement here. Your orders are Service Act, 1951 etc. being ignored. I request you to give some rulmg on it. E~therthe [Englrsh] Government should be censured or statement should THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF be made by some other Mmster as the Government 1s PERSONNEL. PUBLIC GRIEVANCES AND PENSIONS collect~vely responsible for it. II is a serlous matter. AND MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS (SHRI S.R. [Englrsh] BALASUBRAMONIYAN) . I beg to lay on the Table - SHRl E. AHAMED : Slr, we are all very much (1j A Copy each of the followmg Not~f~cat~ons(Hmdi concerned over thls matter... (lnterruptrons)., . Th~smay and Engllsh vers~ons)under sub-secllon (2) not be allowed to go like that. sect~on 3 of the All lnd~aServ~ces Act, 1951:- [Translarfon] The lnd~anAdm~n~strat~ve 'S~NIC~ (Pay) Thud Amendment Rules. 1995 publ~shed SHRI RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl The pol~ce In Notif~cat~onNo G S.R. 569 In Gazette arrangements were withdrawn from there and now the of lnd~adated the 30th December. 1995. Government 1s trymg to husp up the matter It IS dehberately delay~ngthe statement and ~t amounts to The lnd~anForest Servlce (Fixat~onof the contempt of the House. Cadre Strength) Amendment Regulal~ons, 1996 publ~shedIn Notif~cationNo. G.S.R. SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT . The Government 75(E) in Gazelle of lnd~adated the 5th should flx time for lt. Hon. M~n~stershould tell that February 1996. by what tlme In the evening he IS going to make a statement. The lnd~an Forest Serv~ce (Pay) Amendment Rules, 1986 publ~shedIn MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER : The Statement would Not~f~cal~onNo. G.S.R. 76(E) In Gazette come by 6'0 clock. of lndla dated the 5th February. 1999. SHRl RAMAKANT D. KHALAP : Mr. Deputy Speaker, The Indian Forest Servlce (F~xationof Sir. I request the Members that they should not be Cadre strength) Second Amendment ag~tated.Home Min~sterha6 gone there.. .( Intt9rr~ph0n~) Regulal~onr. 1996 publ~~hedin SHRl VlNAY KATlYAR (Falzabad) : Where has he Not~f~cal~onNo G.S.R. 77(E) in Gazette of gone? India dated the 5th February, 1096. 177 Matters Under Rule 377 ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) Matters Under Rule 377 178

(v) The Indian Forest Service (P,ay) Second declared Dahanu Taluka. District Thane (Maharashtra) Amendment Rules. 1996 published In as an "ecologically fragile" area and imposed a ban on Notification No. G.S.R. 78(E) in Gazette setting up of industrtes not only in the Dahanu Taluka of lndta dated the 5th February. 1996 but also in the outer periphery of 25 km. of Dahanu Taluka. The enttre area 1s a tribal area and constitutes [Placed In Library See No. LT-117/96] major part of my Dahanu Lok Sabha Constituency. (2) A copy each of the following papers (Hindi and The Notiftcatron has very adversely affected the English versions) under arttcle 323 (i) of the promotion of tndustrles In my constituency deprrvlng Constitution :- thereby the opportunities of employment to thousands (I) Forty-Ftfth Annual Report of the Unlon of tribals. The people of my area. Zrlla Parshad. Taluka Publlc Service Commission for the years Panchayats and also the Government of Maharashtra 1994-95. have all approached the Government of lndia to reconsider the above ban which is not only detrrmental (11) Memorandum explatntng the reasons for non-acceptance of the advice of the Unton to the economic growth but is also d~scrimtnatory.The Publtc Servtce Commision referred to In Government of India, therefore, constttuted a Committee Chapter Vlll of the above report. to review the ban and the satd Committee have also submitted thelr recommendatrons to the Mintstry. After (3) Statement (Hlndr and English versions) showtng that. MPs, MLAs and representatrves of the Industry reasons for delay in laying the papers mentroned and youth organlsatlons had also a meeting with the at (2) above. then Mlntster for Environment and Forests in February [Placed In Ltbrary See No. LT-1181961 1996 when he assured the delegatton to take a positwe decision to help rndustrial growth. The peripheral area of 25 km. around Dahanu Taluka also covers land from adjoinlng Unton Terrttory of Dadra and Nagar Haveli and Gularat State where the MATTERS UNDER RULE 377 ban IS not being tmplemented The people of my constituency have become restive due to the delay in withdrawlng the sard ban and are (i) Need to reopen Farenda Genesh Sugar Mill planning to launch a major agitation In view of this in Maharajgani district, U.P. by providing it sttuatlon. I request the Unton Government to ensure adequate financial assistance. early withdrawal of the ban to usher In an era of development In my tribal constituency. SHRl PANKAJ CHOWDHARY (Maharajganj) Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr. Farenda Sugar mrll In drstrtct Maharalagnl In Uttar Pradesh under Natronal Texttle Corporatlon. IS closed lor the last two years. Thousands (iii) Need to open heavy industry in Rrjrsthrn. of employees have become unemployed due to the SHRl BHERU LAL MEENA (Salumber~ There is no closure of thts mrll whereas this mill could be restarted such btg Industry especrally In the tr~balarea of by tnvesttng only Rs 35-40 lakhs But due to the refusal Rajasthan which may slop m~grattonof unemployed by the Natlonal Texttle Corporatlon this mill has been youth of Rajasthan and there IS a large scale reterred to BlFR It has taken a dectslon that etther this drscontentment among the people of backward areas. ~t mill should be run by the Government or should be Rajasthan IS facing many ktnds of problems Somewhere handed over to the prtvate sector Unttl the expansron ~t1s flood and somewhere it 1s tamtne. I, therefore, urge of lhts mill 1s done. 11 should be run by spendmg rupees the Government of lndla that small and large scale 35.40 lakhs The labourers should be pald thew dues rndustrtes should be opened by the Government of lndia outslandlng for the lasl so many months. espectally In the backward areas of Rajasthan hke I. therefore, request the Central Government to Udalpur. Dungurpur, Banswara. Ch1tt3rgarh etc. I restart thrs mrll lmmedlately so that the lakhs of people demand that the unemployed youth should be provided who have become unemployed due to the closure of employment so that people could be saved from the mill, could get employment starvation. The Central Government should provide flnanclal asststance to the State Government

(11) Need for Llftlng of Ban on Setting up of Industries in Dahanu Taluka, Dlslrlct Thanr, (iv) Need to Abollsh Exirtlng tontrrtturl Mahrrrshtra Syrtrm of R~crultlngSckntlstr in Coumil of Scimntlflc and lndurtrirl R881rrch SHRl CHINTAMAN WANAGA (Dahanu) . The Government of Indla, Mtntstry of Envrronment and SHRl S.D.N.R. WADIYAR (Mysore) : The sctenttsts Forests, by thelr Notrl~catron,dated 20th June. 1991, workrng In the Councd of Sc~enttficand Industrial 179 Matters Under Rule 377 Matters Under Rule 377 180

Research (CSIR) have observed one-day strike on July minorities which is under 15 point programme, 22 lower 1. 1996 to demand that the exlstlng contractual system prlmary. 14 upper primary and 6 higher secondary be done away with and that the services of sclentlsts schools have been selected in Kerala. For the who have completed probation be made permanent. It construction of building, salary of teachers and purchase is the responsibil~tyof the Government to provide its of equipments, 100 per cent grant has been assured by scientists with an environment conducwe to research. the Un~onGovernment out of which only 50 per cent , Such an envrronment would requlre financial and lob grant has been paid. Considerlng the fact that these security. I therefore request the hon. Prime Mlnister to schools face certain diff~cult~es,I urge upon the abollsh the exlsting contractual system of recruiting Government to take following urgent measures among sc~entists1s CSIR. others : 1. to release the grant for salary; (v) Need for early clearance of the proposal 2. to release the remaming 50 per cent of the of Karnataka Government for construction unpa~damount: of 'Yatrika' at Sogalu in Belgaum district. 3. to brlng these school under dlrect payment SHRl SHIVANANDA H. KOUJALGI (Belgaum) : Slr. system; and the Government of Karnataka has sent a proposal to 4. treat these mlnorlty schools at a par w~th the Government of India, the Department of Troulsm to other a~dedschools. sanction Yatrika (Yatr~Nlwas) at Sogalu In Belgaum Dlstr~ctand at Yellamman Gudda. Taluka Savadatt~. (vili) Need to issue No Objection Certificate for Distrlct Belgaum. But .he Union Government has not yet providing civic amenltles to slum-dwellers glven clearance to these projects. on land belonging to Central Government Hence. I request the Un~onGovernment to glve in Mumbai early clearance to the proposal sent by the Government SHRl RAM NAlK (Mumbal North) Sir, the populat~on 01 Karnataka. of Mumbal (Bombay) has not crossed the flgure of one (vi) Need to frame guidelines for laying the crore and 20 lakh By the end of the century. ~t 1s alignment route of fences alongwith Indo- estimated that Mumba~will be the second largest clty In Bangladesh border to minimlse loss and the world Presently nearly 65 lakh people stay In the Damages to the Affected people. slums on land belonglng to Central Government. State Government, Mumba~Munlclpal Corporation and prwate SHRl CHITTA BASU (Barasat) : Sir. the Government trustsfpersons These slums were llrst censused In 1976 01 lnd~ahave dec~dedto construct the border lences when 11 was observed that nearly 20 lakh people were along the Indo-Bangladesh border to strengthen border staylng on land belonglng to the Deparlments of the defence, stop dlegal rnlgrat~onfrom across the border and to ensure safety and secur~tyof llfe and property of Central Government hke Railways. A~rport Author~ty, the people of the border areas of Assam. West Bengal. Defence, etc Tnpura and other border States. Under the scheme of the slum Improvement and The fences are to be constructed all along border upgradallon, the Maharashtra State Government have The ahgnment 01 the fenclng IS 125 yards away from prov~dedCIVIC amen~t~eslrke drmklng water, toilets. the Zero Polnt, w~thlnthe lndlan territory dramage electrlclty to all slums except those on the Central Government land The State Government have As a result of thls ahgnment In West Bengal. made several representatlons to the Central Government thousands of villagers would be d~splacedfrom the~r to Issue 'No Object~onCert~l~cate" but there has been homes. Thousands of acres of the fertde and cultivable land will be outslde the fence The land and the crops no posltlve response Lack ol bas~cCIVIC amenltles for grown wrll be unsafe and unprotected these 20 lakh people has created serlous env~ronmental hazards In varrous slums The Government should frame proper gu~dellnes lor laylng the ahgnment route of lences In such a manner The present Maharashtra State Government have that the apprehended loss and damages may be as evolved a very popular scheme under whlch all slum. mlnlmal as possrble. Famllles unavo~dablyd~splaced dwellers would gel a 225 sq It flat lree of cost by should be properly rehabrlltated speedrly. glvlng addrtlonal Iloor.space Index to developers The slum.dwellers on Government 01 lnd~aland are very I request the Un~onGovernment to sent a team to have on-spot-enqulry and recommend appropriate eager to loln the Maharashtra Government scheme measures to allay the tears ol the v~llagers 1 urge upon the Un~onGovernment to look Into these twln Issues and arrange to ~ssueN.OCs. so as (vii) Need to release the remaining fifty per cent to enable the State Government to provrde CIVIC grant to the minority school in Kerrla. amenltles and also to glve lree houre~to the slum-

SHRl E AHAMED IManjeri) , Sir, under the Area dwellers In Mumba~ lmprovement Programme for educat~onally backward

183 Disapproval of S.C. 8 H.C. JULY 17, 1996 Judges (Conditions of Service) 184 Amendment Thrrd Ordinance. 1996 and Amendment Bill doubts in his mind when he will work in any High Court Secondly, there is a question of retirement of he will not perform his duties sincerely and with full judges. When you come to know'that a particular judge attent~on.I would like to request you that a clearcut is retiring on a particular date, it would be better if the policy should be adopted with regard to the transfer of process to declare his successor is stated six months judges of the High Court. before his retirement so that immediately afttzr retirement ' of a particular judge his successor may take over and As far as I know. In the previous transfer policy the there would be speedy disposal of the cases. condition was that the Chief Justice of a High Court will be transferred to another High Court. But a person Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, had the Supreme Court or appointed as an original judge of a Htgh Court would the High Court not intervened many a cases, corruption be appointed as Ch~efJustice of another High Court. I would not have seen the light of the day. We are grateful have a request in this regard. As the Minister of Law is to them. It is due to the courts only that these cases sitting here, who is very reasonable and logical. I would have come to I~ght.I do not want to go into the details like to say to him that there is no Ch~elJust~ce in any as to who IS guilty and who is not, but I would like to Htgh court of lndia from among the Original Judges of make a mention 01 a case In this regard. In 1984, some the Punjab and Haryana High court and no judge is unfortunate incidents had taken place and excesses there In the Supreme Court from there. This 1s the joint were comm~ttedto Sikhs. Riots took place. After that High Court of the High Courts of the three States Punjab, women who had been affected went to the court and Haryana and Chandigarh. If we have the right under told that thetr husbands . brothers or some members of this policy then we should get that right that our judges the~rfamilies were killed or burnt alive. Therefore, they should be transferred as Chief Justce in another High should be pa~dcompensation for that. Some cases have Courts. If there is allevation in the High Court and the come to I~ght,~nPunjab also where a compensation of original judge of the High court belongs to that then he Rs.20 to 40 thousand was given to those families whose should be constdered. members were killed by the terrorlsts. Now. the Delh~ H~ghCourt also in one of 11s judgement has passed Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, yesterday there was a orders to pay Rs.3.5 lakhs to Smt. Bhajan Kaur, the mention about selection of the judge. Today we are no1 head of whose family was kllled during riots. Therefore, getting judges In good number. Regarding the selectlon I would l~keto subm~tthat the matter IS under of judges. I would hke to suggest that wh~leselecting considerallon In the Law Ministry. In this regard, the the judge the Ch~efJustlce of the H~ghCourt, Chief Government should Issue instruct~ons to the State Minister of the State, Union Law Min~ster,the Prlme Governments as well as lo the Central Government so M~nisterand the Pres~dentshould cons~derthat that every widow need not approach the court hke whenever there is a selectlon for the post of any judge Bhajan Kaur Every woman whose husband was kllled then around 10 or 5 senlor top talented advocates should should be paid compensatlon. I would like to request also be mvolved for their vlews. Mr. Deputy Speaker. the Government to Issue Instructtons to the Delh~,Punjab Sir, in many High courts posts of judges are vacant. Not and Haryana Governments where such tnc~dentshave only in the H~ghCourt of my State but also In many taken place The Government should pay a other H~ghCourts. Cases are pendlng for the last 15 compensatlon to the tune of Rs.3.5 lakhs to the years. I jolned as a lawyer In the H~ghCourt In the year dependents of those who were k~lledIn such lncldenls 1980 and the cases filed at that ttme have not come for Compensatton should be patd to those familtes also normal dlscusslon upto now. It can take a year or two whose members have been killed In r~otsor by terrorlsts. Please lmaglne that what would be happenmg in the be lt the case of Punjab, Haryana or Chand~garh In thls case of house. In the case of retirement, pension or regard, I would Me to request lhal thls matter should be gratuttty if the people will have to wall for 15 years then taken up by Ihe Law Mln~stry how the decistons will be laken. Somettmes even after MR DEPUTY SPEAKER Please conclude the decision there IS possibiltty of remand. Therefore, the appointment of the judges should be made SHRI SATYA PAL JAlN . Mr Deputy Speaker. Sir. In tmmediately. I shall request the Mln~sterof Law. thls conectton, I would hke to tell the hon Law Min~ster SHRI K.D. SULTANPURI (Shlmlaj . Mr. Deputy that I have glven my amendments also. My submiss~on IS that the amendment proposed by the Government IS Speaker, Sir, I would like to say that judges belongtng to SC and ST are not there In the H~ghCourt. the~r not enough. Today the people of lndia have more faith In the judlctary than the Executtve and the legislature. selection should be done. The judges should joln My request IS that the Government should pay attentton pol~t~csafter the~rretirement. to servlce condit~ons,transler pollcy and the problem of SHRI SATYA PAL JAlN : I shall be happy 11 there res~dentialaccommodat~on of judges. It would be better are judges from Scheduled Castes and Scheduled if the Government paid 11s anentlon to thelr problems as Tribes. But suitable persons are not available, The earty as poss~ble.If the people of lnd~alose latth In the Government should think over it. We agree w~ththis I judiciary, 11 will create a very crittcal situat~onfor us. We would like to say to Shr~Sultanpur~ that there is not should avoid it. W~ththese words, I conclude and thank difference of oplnlon over thls. you very much for I~stmingto my polnt attentively. 185 Disapproval ol S.C. & H.C. ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sake) Judges (Cond~lronsof Servrce) 186 Amendmenl Third Ordinance, 1996 and Amendmenl 6111

14.36 hr8. exposed right up to the hilt for h~scorruption? Parliament could have acted on that day. If Parliament had acted SHRl P.R. DASMUNSI (Howrah) : Mr. Deputy on that day, I tell you, today the Judges from the lower Speaker, Sir, while I support the amendments of the Bill, courts to the highest court could not point out tlngers at it is very important and significant that in the past every politic~an.May be, there are two or three black sumptuary allowances are only to be increased keepmg sheep. But they are mak~nga show these days as if the ' in view the price rise. judic~ary,the people who are sitting in the Judlcial I was very keen yesterday to listen to the eminent Benches are sons of god and the rest of all of us, sitting jurist, now a distingu~shedMember of Parliament from here, are all devils. That is not the case. With all respect the other side, Shri Lodha, with rapt attention and the to the judtclary. I want to convey this message. This is manner in which he was defending the judiciary. We all not the correct posit~on. respect the Judiciary because the highest echelons of The other day com'ments were made by another the democracy are Parliament, that is, the Leglslature, Judge, Shri Dhingra. Shr~Chandra Shekhar and many the Executive and the Judlc~ary.There 1s no denymg Members of this House d~dreact on it. It should not only the fact that in recent times the people of the country be reaction but the Government should have taken have been watchmg with great respect the performance stringent action on such Judges. What are they dong? of the judiciary and the manner in which they are What are you talklng about judic~ary?There is the case handlmg the issues. of former Chief Just~ceA.M. Bhattacharya who was Slr, lust now. Shrl Satya Pal Jam concluded his removed from the Mumbai High Court Bench for violation speech by saylng that these days people have the of FERA and other fraudulent activities. I can cite many hlghest regard in the Judic~aryand not that much regard examples. In the Leg~slature.It does not convey a good massage Mr. Deputy Speaker, Slr, being a Member of this to all of us. I do not agree w~thh~m. I have all expect House, I pleased w~thyou to let thls new Prime Minister. for judiciary, but I still consider, tf I understood the who has come from a poor peasant's fam~lyestablish Constitution and the dream of the forefathers ol the an institution or an lnqulry committee before which, nation, who fought for freedom and the makers of the withm two years, let all the former Ministers for the last Constitut~onllke Dr. B.R. Ambedkar and Pandit 15 years, including M.Ps.. lncludlng myself, all the toner Jawaharlal Nehru correctly, Parhament 1s supreme and Judges and all the former top execut~vesot the the supremacy of Parllament cannot be lust equated Government be tr~edand found as to how much properly wlth lhal of any other organ of the Constltutlon. This and wealth have they amassed. Everybody should be was vrndrcated on many occastons In th~scounlry and trled and found out as to what was the salary they drew no less than the late Shrtmat~lnd~ra Gandh~, who very and how d~dthey look after thelr ch~ldrento be brought r~ghtlyIn defence of the will of the people, the poorest up in the U.S.A., Canada or London and how the of the poor of the natlon, manifested the wdl of the expenditure on the~reducat~on 1s bemg looked atter. people In 1969. I know many cases. I do not hke to ment~onthe Shr, Lodha Somehow 'found an objection In the names. style of funct~oningof Shr~mattlnd~ra Gandhl when the A sltuatlon has been created r~ghtfrom Yagnavalkya judlclary and some of the judges were suspended, I do Mum to Lord Ramakrlshna who could not Interpret what not want to go Into the merlts of those thmgs. I was a 1s Hlndutwa. The Judges are f~ndmgthe meaning of new Member of the F~fthLok Sabha I remember well, H~ndulwa.Swamt Vlvekananda could not Interpret what how from those Benches, leaders hke Shrl Mohana Hmdulwa was. Two or three Judges are glvlng sermons Kumaramangalam. Babu Jagpan Ram, Shrl Y.B. Chavan about Hmdutva W~thall respect to those judges I tell and Shr~mat~lnd~ra Gandh~ spoke and from the you that sometimes they are lust over-reactag. They Oppos~tlonBenches leaders, no less than Shrl A.K. are crosslng the~rl~m~ts and they are going out of thelr Gopalan of the CPI(M) have defended the rlght of the lur~sd~ct~on.Thls should not happen They should know people In the past, the manner In whlch 11 was done that they can catch hold of one or two people In the and the manner In whlch the enhre progress of the Hawala case and convlct them 11 they flnd some natlon was slr~vedto be throttled and halted by the ev~dence But they should not treat all allke and make same process of the judl~lary. sweeplng comments and remarks when they try cases The linal message was conveyed by the people and say that . 'Parllament is so and so: M Ps are so that they could acl In a des~gnthat Parhament deslres and so and pol~ttc~ansare so and so'. One or two, who lo do ro and Parliament dld act In thal tone Why has are black sheep, can tolerate The rest of the pol~haans today the judiclal activ~smcome' It IS because and other people should not tolerate th~sklnd of thmgs. What can they do' Can they sand us to the galbws~ Parhament could not act tn a manner that I! should But there is a hmlt about this Ihng. I know 11. have acled. That IS why ludlclal act~v~smhas come That 18 why the thlngs have come to thls stage. Why What is happening? A man, who detred his own could the Parliament not act on the Issue of Shri Justlce atf~davltIn the h~ghestcourt of ludtclary. for ddywg the Rarnamamy, the Judge ol the Supreme Court who was aff~davitamounhng lo contempt of coun. whch rerultod 187 Drsapproval of S.C. & H.C. JULY 17, 1996 Judges (Cond~tions01 Service) 188 Amendment Thtrd Ordmance, 1996 and Amendment Bill

in colossal waste of the property of the country in SHRl ANlL BASU (Arambagh) : Your party had Mumba~,Surat, Ahmedabad, Calcutta and where v~olatedthe solemn assurance given to the Supreme thousands and rnilllons came to the streets and Court. Why are you not speaking about that? hundreds and thousand died, the pun~shmentthat the SHRI SATYA PAL JAlN : Rule 352(v) says : h~ghestjud~c~ary glves is a fine of Rs.2.000 and one hours' VIP treatment In T~harJail! It was to a former ''A member while speaking shall not reflect Chief Mmister of Uttar Pradesh. Is this judic~ary?Is th~s upon the conduct of persons In h~ghauthority rehef? Is th~scalled natural just~ce' Is th~scalled the unless the discuss~onIS based on a essence of jurisprudence7 substant~vemotion drawn In proper terms; Shri Lodha. I appeal to you. I studied law under no Explanation-The words 'persons In h~gh less than a man than Shr~Ch~ttatosh Mukherjee who authority' mean persons whose conduct can only be d~scussedon a substant~vemot~on became the Chief Justlce. He was my teacher. He sa~d drawn In proper terms under the Constltutlon In the class when he used to teach us that ~f judges tall or such other persons whose conduct ..." to understand the reality and the mmd of the people withm the periphery of law, they not only fail to act but The judge of a hlgh court can be Impeached I! my fail to gu~dethe destmy of the natlon. fr~endvery strongly feels that he has glven a wrong judgement. But 11 wlll be very unfortunate. Judges have Th~sis what had happened. For one aff~dav~t,for gwen judgements on both the s~des.somewhere tn one contempt ot court, such thmg had happened and favour of one and somewhere In favour of other. I w~ll the Judges interpreted ~tthat way What IS the contempt? only draw your attention to that It wdl not be In good You file an afftdav~tand do not comply w~th~t. The taste. 11 w~llnot be proper on the part of the Members penalty IS a fine of only Rs.2.000. What happens was to crit~c~sethelr judgements even on the punishment that the entire natlon suffered. What has happened to part. I thmk, today Mr. Naras~mhaRao's appl~catlon th~scountry? I do not approve of thls klnd of conduct. must have been rejected by the H~ghCourt. That IS the Th~sIS about Increasing thew salary. Competent people reason. I th~nk,my fr~endIS speaklng l~kethat should come. Jud~c~arymust be respected and must be . . . (lnterruptronsj honoured. SHRl P R DASMUNSI . Mr Deputy Speaker I Shr~Kalpanath Ral was narrating yesterday about strongly object to that I speak very frankly and openly the story of the manner In which he had been treated I do not hold a brief for anybody I tell you very honestly ins~dethe court and about the comments made at h~m . . (Inferruptrons) Is ~tthe way? Is ~tfair to treat a publlc representatwe In thls manner? I do not hke to go Into the merlts 01 that MR DEPUTY SPEAKER . There 16 no pomt of order case. Let ~tbe tr~edThe Judic~aryd~d many good thlngs. You please contmue your speech. I want to convey my appreclalon. SHRI P.R DASMUNSI I have only been trylng to

SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT ~Nagpur), Sir, thls pursue the matter thal we are not aga~nstthe Jud~c~ary IS.. not agalnst the judges On the contrary. I have sa~dat the outset that the whole natlon today IS watchlng the SHRI PR DASMUNSI Shr~Puroh~t. I am not proceedmgs of the courts wlth great attent~on,care and y~eld~ng respect because some 01 them are reveahng some SHRI BANWARI LAL PUROHIT I am on a polnt of thlngs But what I wanted to convey 1s thal I! IS not order correct to assume that the Judlclary IS the only respected MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Okay instltutlon and the Legislature has gone to dogs That does not appear to. be correct and 11 he says 11 w~th~n the House, he does not deserve to be an MP because SHRI BANWARI LAL PUR9HIT Mr. Deputy Speaker, we got the mandate lrom the people and when the Sir. I am on a polnt of order that the hon'ble judge has People have chosen us, they have chosen us r~ghtly glven h~sverdlct In the court Therefore, 11 IS not good In the case 01 the Ayodhya matter. Parhament has to crlt~clse~t here... (Inlerruplrons) referred the matter lo the Supreme Court I was not In the House then. I am sorry. I do no1 want to commenl on any part the Oppos~tlonor Ihe Government SHRl PR. DASMUNSI , Mr Deputy Speaker. Sir. In I do not know how Lord Rama could have glven the thls very House Golaknath case was pralsed and then. message lo Lord Budha as lo where he was born the same judgement was crltcccsed... (Inlerruplrons) Even the Budha could not get lt Meera Bal, who pra~sed SHRl SATYA PAL JAIN : I do not want to stop h~m every tlme Rama and Knshna. In her dreams dld not He has a rlght to crlt~crse get any dream a6 to where Lord Rama was born I do 189 D~sapproval01 S C 8 H C ASADHA 26 1918 (Sakal Judges 1Cortdrlrons of Serv~cel 790 Amendment Third Ord~trance 1996 and Amendment 8/11 not know how Rama could give the message to one [Translai~on] judge of the Supreme Court as to wh~chpart ol the MR. CHAIRMAN She IS on a polnt of order What country. He was born In and to glve judgement In that IS 11' order I do not know. It IS not possible Maybe some light wdl come up. I do not know how 11 IS possible SHRlMATl BHAGWATI DEVl iGaya, My pomt of order IS that d~scuss~onIS going on here about Lord Rama (Interruptronst

It w~llbe declded by the Supreme Court MR. CHAIRMAN Here, drscusslon IS going on on the B~llnot on Lord Rama jEng11shl SHRl BANWARI LAL PUHOHIT I agree w~thyou [Engl~sh] SHRl PR DASMUNSl Sir I request the hon SHRl PA DASMUNSI Th~sIS not a correct Mrn~sterof Law to please enquire as to In how many approach It IS not correct to say that you know where H~ghCourts of Ind~a.the sons daughters and sons-rn- he was born law of the judges are pract~s~ngIn the same court I tell you Sir, I have seen Rnmavaria scr~alI have SHRl 1d P VEERENDRA KUMAR ~Cal~cut]Sir, some sccn Musl~mr~chst~,~cvalas ahnr~donlny ttie~r duty to of the judges are glvlng ~ntervlewson telev~sonso that watcti Ihc hall-an-hour Ramayana srmal '81th respect What a great Fiama' Thasc, Mulms used to respect they can be exposed as to how great they are. Ram2 and thal very holy rlamr has bt?t?ntarn~shed. has jTranslat~onj bcen questirvw! has been mado a sqn of a part~cular ;ornniun~ty t)y com~mur~alcampalyrl and rcferrec' to a MR CHAIRMAN How does IT relate to the Bill Berlct~ol the Court tu dec~dc' [Engl~sh: SHRl M P VEERENDRA KUMAR It has a PROF RASA SINGH HAWAT IA~KI~IIMr Deputy connection, because that 1s what he IS :alklng about Speakrr Sir tor hundreds nl years crores of people SHRI P.R DASMUNSl Sir, I only request the hon have been assumlng that Lo~dFiama %as born In M~n~sterol Law to take note of the tact as to how many Ayodhya I ln!errupf~ons: wes, sons, daughters and sons-ln-la# are practlslng In the same Court and how many judges, after retirement also, act~velyengage themselves In the same professlon SHSI PR DASMUNSI I would expect that some In the respective cour:s Th~sIS very wrong, morally rhlngs would come out of that It IS :he people of thls uneth~calan3 thls should be banned by Drlngmg a new :ountry who %ill dec~de leg~slatlon.~f necessary Sir we are the law makers and they are the So. Sir. wilh all respect to the Jud~c~aryI feel that interpreters of law Let US be very honest The Interpreters reform IS necessary in Jud~c~ary.as reform is necessary ol la- have the rqht to dec~dewhether we are r~ghtor in pol~tlcs In pol~t~csfrom all partles we shall unlle lo wrong They can Interpret the Cnnstllut~onas to whether fqht corruption In the Judclary also. reform 1s necessary tt IS bemg protecled or not They can glve ludgement Delay defeats equ~t) SJ Drmg competent people and tiut they cannot mterfere w~lhthe very process of the see thal ludrcial decrsrons are not delayed turict~on~ng01 the admin~strat~onand 11s da4.10-day Sir Shr~Lodha was tellrng yesterday that good busmuss That IS none of ttie~rbusmess ,interrupl~onsr thmgs are cornmy from the lud~c~aryI would Only request Lodhap to lrnd out. w~thhrs long experience for hrrnself 14.51 hrs. as to how the lud~c~alprocess IS delayng the declslons on women's cases A number of cases of atrocil~es against women are lvlng and ptllng up In the H~gh Srr noir I! has become a fastl~oriwith a part 01 the Jutllc~aryto talk about pol~t~clarisI car1 understilnd Courts arid Mag~strates Court Thousands and pol~l~c~aristalk~ng about pollt~cs 8i1t s~mcmembers of thousands ol cases are gettlng plied up everyday and no declsion IS being glven quickly on those cases It~c.Judiciary have developed a new lnsh~onwhlch IS dangeious for the future of the Jud~c~arvand 11s Dates aftrr dates are glven neutral~tyThat lash~onis. how to catch Ihe headlmes In Shr~Lodha will bear me out on thls polnt, because Iho newspilpers When they try to catch the headline of he was also a ludge and he knows the poslllon Or! the the newsyiipers and television, Ihc'ri the neutral~tyof f~rstdab when I appeared In the court a ludge had the pdic~arygets eroded They should not play that giver1 me B message that the rullng would be written role wlthln three weeks I thought thal w~th~nthree weeks I 191 Drsapprovai of S.C. & H.C. JULY 17, 1996 Judges (Condrtions of Service) 192 Amendment Third Ordrnance, 1996 and Amendment Bill

can give relief to my client. But three weeks had gone status subsequent to the 73rd and 74th amendments to to three years, three years became nine years and the Constitution. Now, there IS also a reference to the even then it never came! Th~sis the situation. setting up of Nyay Panchayats at the local levels In order to reduce the burden on the law courts. Trivial [Translation] matters relating to civil and criminal cases and those MR. CHAIRMAN : Here, discussion is not golng on matters requirmg urgent attentlon and solution could be on the Judiciary system. referred to these Nyay Punchayats. I feel it is time for us in the country to think In terms of a statutory provision It will be better ~t you speak on the B~llonly. for the estabhshment of Nyay Panchayats. Now that ~t [Engl~sh] IS also a subject relatmg to the States, they will have to brlng In enactments to prov~defor settlng up of local SHRl P.R. DASMUNSI : Mr. Cha~rman,Sir, these bod~es.I feel ~t IS time for us to make 11 mandatory by are all necessary because we are discussing about means of Const~tut~onalamendments or otherw~seto the~rsalarles and allowances. So, we should also make th~sconcept statutorily binding throughout the dlscuss a little bit on the~rconduct. What 1s wrong In it7 length and breadth of the country. Parhament is sovereign. Wlth these words, I, once again, say w~thall the 15.00 hrs. author~tyat my command that thls Parliament 1s supreme I very much apprec~atethe senl~mentsexpressed and not the judic~ary. by our hon. Members here on both the sides. There IS SHRl C. NARAYANA SWAMY (Bangalore North) : a feelmg in the country that people's represenlatlves Sir, thls august House is d~scuss~ngthe salar~esand are unscrupulous, corrupt and self-seekmg. Th~s1s very emoluments relatlng to the judges of the Hlgh Courts and dangerous for the funct~onmgof democracy. We are the Supreme Court. In the process, the hon Members aware that all the three wlngs of the Government are have been expressing thew viewqon the functioning of not above board There are black-sheep, as our learned Judlclary In the country today. I have also been a hon, fr~endsaid There are good and bad people In member of the Bar and now a Member ol this august every held of actlvlty. We should condemn and take House. It 1s also a fact now In our country when people act~onagalnst corrupt practices In publ~cMe. We should go to the law courts for justice, there IS so much delay support the Independence and the action of the judlc~ary

, ~n the admmistrat~onof justice due to varlous factors. In expresslng themselves In these matters But it should Probably. a common man is not In a pos~t~onto get not be a sweeplng statement lncludmg all those who justce In tlme from the highest court of the land today. are exerclslng the~rrespons~bd~t~es as legislators or We are follow~ng,democrat~ctradit~ons In th~scountry. representatlves of people We are funct~on~ngunder the provlslons of the A questlon arlses as to who 1s supreme the ludlclal. Constitut~onand followmg the principle of rule of law the leglslatlve or the executlve wlngs of the State. We There IS also separation of powers In the country. There bemg the people's representatlves, tend to thlnk that IS also separatlon of rlghts and responslblllt~esof the we have the unbridled powers. But the judlc~ary has Judlctary, the Leg~slatlveand the Execut~vewlngs of also a role to play In ~nterpretlngthe provlslons of the the State. Each has a defmed role for Itsell Constltutlon and also the statute. Our hon. Members We are convmced that the members of the judlclary who spoke just now made cerlaln relevant observations must be prov~dedwlth all the facillt~esso as to enable relatlng to the k~thand kln ol the members ol the Bench them to dlscharge the~rdut~es wlthout fear or favour We practwng In the law courts and In the courts chalred by also flnd that the fac~l~t~esgiven to them In our country them many a tlme It IS h~ghtlme for us to thmk about are not sufflc~ent to enable them to dlscharge the~r these thmgs and to see that these members In the dut~esand to funct~onIn a fearless manner w~thoutany judlclary also remaln above board In all the actlvltles In prejudice. I have. whde supportlng the B111. a feehng whlch they are ~nvolved.We have been seeing that that lakhs of cases whlch are pehdlng In the law courts there IS a spate of publlc Interest I~t~gat~onIn the country In our country are very trivial In nature and those very belng f~ledIn the H~ghCourts and the Supre~eCourt, cases have been consuming the tlme of the courts These I~t~gat~onsare very lnterestlng. I feel they are whlch should have been bestowing more attentlon to necessary. more Important aspects of the I~t~gat~on. Wh~leplaylng ~tsrole that IS expected of 11, the executlve wing sornetlmes exceeds 116 lur~sd~ct~onor 14.58 hrr. omlts to exerclse 11s jur~sd~ct~on.But wh~leexerclslng (Shn P.M. Sayeed ~n the Charr) the power vested In them. there are Instances where Now, we have local bodles In the country, the they try to exerclse the powers ol the legislature also panchayat raj ~nst~tutionswhlch have the Constitut~onal and they try to exerclse certaln funct~onswhlch are 193 Drsapproval ot S.C B H C ASADHA 26 1918 ISaka) Judges (Condrbons ot Servrce) 194 Amendment Th~rdOrd~nance. 1996 and Arnendmenf Bdl exclusively withln the domain of the Legislature So. the Press and vent~lateh~s grievances It IS the while we welcome the intervention of the law courts awareness of the Leglslature and the Executive that wherever there 1s miscarriage of justlce, wherever there alone can place the Judlc~aryIn a positlon of f~rm 1s a grievance and wherever the rule of law IS not securrty and guarantee that they would be able to observed. 11 IS also necessary for them to see that there perform thelr dutles as the people expect them to IS no Interference In the affalrs or actlv~t~esor the realm perform Wh~lewe are considering the conditions of of actlvlty of the Leg~slature,be ~t the State Leg~slature servlce of Judges of the Supreme Court and the Hlgh or Parl~ament. b Court, we should have also taken Into conslderat~on Durmg the d~scussionon the amendment to the the great deflclencres that remarn rn the grant of pensron 8111. a reference was made to the three Ordlnance that to some of the rebring Judges of the High Court have been Issued earlier. There IS also a notce of Sir you w~llbe surpr~sedto hear that members of amendment glven by our senlour hon. Member Shri the Bar recru~tedto the H~ghCourt Judlc~ary,even if George Fernandes. I have gone through that they serve for 12 years, do not get full penslon. But the He has also referred to the lnclus~onof a provlso members, who are recrulted from h~gherJudlcal Servlce. after the sectlon relatmg to the sumptuary allowance even ~f they serve for a couple of years or four years admlss~blefor the members of the Judic~aryI thmk it 1s only, get full penslon Th~s1s an a nomaly whlch IS proper for us to Incorporate the official amendments dlsturbmg qulte a large number of H~ghCourt Judges because ~t cannot be on the bass of the cost of lwmg and I would humbly request the hon. Mlnlster In charge Index Sumptuary allowance IS someth~ngthat is of Law and Justlce to look mto the matter because the declded from tlme to t~me We can be very hberal In source of recru~tmentof Hlgh Court Judges In Article increasing the quantum of allowance Whlle domg so 217 lrrespect~veof the stream from whlch they are they should not be at the mercy of the Leg~slatureand recru~ted- whether they are jurists or advocates or they must yet all the necessary fac~lit~es judges - experience of ten years In each field 1s necessary Havrng the same experience, when lhey W~ththls I conclude join the H~ghCourt and retlre. they should not leave SHRl ANlL BASU Sir. I am on a po~ntof w~thdlfterent penslons The practice creates obv~ous lnformat~onVery shortly, the d~scuss~onon floods under problems. It IS also an lnv~tatron to those Judges to Rule 193 would commence. Last week, the hon. Speaker accept ofl~ceswhlch better should have been avo~ded observed that the preventwe measure relatmg to floods by them after retirement should also be dlscussed In the House because, durmg It has been sard that we are amendlng conditions the Quest~onHour, while a discussion on rehef measures of servlce of judges. The baslc norm lor amend~ng was golng on, the quest~onof prevention of Hoods arose cond~tlons of servlce of ludges Or malnta~nlngproper Whde d~scussingthat, the hon Speaker observed that cond~t~onsof servlce of judges should be such as not thls was a very Important aspect and all sectlons of the to adversely rmplnge upon thelr effrctency, rntegrrty and House were unalmous and so wh~ledlscusslng the rndependence Keeplng thls In mmd. thls august House srtuat~onof floods. this aspect should also be dlscussed always wdl amend the condil~onsof service lor the rrI the House Supreme Court and the H~ghCourt Judges It was Now. Sir, dur~ngthe drscusslon on floods. the appalling ,at one stage You w~llbe surpr~sedto hear Mrnister of Agr~culturew~ll partlclpate But the preventlor) that as back as 7974 when the Chref Justrce Shrl of floods 15 the responsibll~tyof the Mrn~sterol Water Galendragadkar was charmg the Law Commlsslon he Resources So, tho Mln~sterof Water Resources should had pomted out that the Ch~elJustlce of each Hlgh also simultaneously partlclpate In the d~scusslon 1hat Court has to go out w~tha beggar's bowl to Second and IS my humble submission As the hon Speaker observed. th~rdrank~ng members of the Bar to lnvlte them 10 ]om the M~n~sterof Water Resources should romaln present the Bench with very lrttle success The result had been dur~nythe d~scuss~onand partletpate In I! extremely harmful and verb bad tor the ent~renat~on DR T SUBBARAMI REDDI' (V~sakhapatnami One of my learned fr~endsSlttlng here had accepted W~ttioutthe Mlnlster of Water Resources we will not be the offce of a judge. tound it unsu~tableand agaln able lo do lust~ccto D jolned the Bar That was the tlme In sevent~eswhen the MR CHAIRMAN Anyway, when 11 comes. let us standard of the judrclary In Ihe ~i'ghCourl has become decldc about 11 such as poss~blythe nat~oncoulci not have expected better Some ~mpfovementhas no doubt been brought SHRl AALAl CHANDRA RAY (Burdwanl Mr about the condlhon of servlce of judges But lhal 1s not Chairman. Sir, thls IS an amendment whlch IS welcome enough and 11 is a step In the r~ghtd~rect~on But 11 must be conceded lhal this 1s not enough The Judlclary has no Whlle I am speaklng about the Improvement of the trade unlon Nor can a member of the Judlclary go lo cond~t~ons01 servlce of thls judges. 11 would not be 195 Disapprclval of S.C 8 H.C JULY 17. 1996 Judges (Condttions 01 Servtce) 196 Amendment Third Ordinance 1996 and Amendment Bill

proper to ignore the recent functioning of the High We have seen Rs.30 lakh being seized from the house Courts and the Supreme Court No doubt we are unable of an ex-Chief Justice of Andhra Pradesh Hlgh Court. to critlclse the judges of the Hlgh Courts or the Judges Ramaswamy's case was debated In this House. Shr~ of the Supreme Court nor do remotely intend that. We A M. Bhattacharjee has been referred lo by my friend. have the h~ghestrespect, the House has expressed ~ts There are Veeraswamys. Ramaswamys and A.M. respect, all srdes have expressed the~rrespect. It IS true Bhattacharjee. Who IS golng to prevent them from further that there is a lot of exposure of veiled act~vltiesof sullymg the jud~clary~tself? There must be an institution certain Important persons by varlous orders of the to prevent that Thal lnstltut~onhas to be devised. Supreme Court and the H~ghCourts. It IS truly welcome. Can this House assume lhat during nearly 50 years But the Press, the media has glven w~depubllclty to all of Independent India not one slngle judge of a H~gh these. Qu~teoften the Press IS In the hab~tof trying Court or the Supreme Court has fatled In h~sdiscipline. cases before those are dec~dedby courts. The tr~alby has not dev~atedfrom absolute Integrtty, has not laded the Press is one of the evlls that ex~stIn every clvil~sed to perform h~sduly properly? But we have lo assume soclety. We can hardly afford to tolerate that because that because no action has been laken against ariy our people do not have the educat~onthat could prevent judge d~~rlngall these many years, nor 1.5 lhere any creating lasting lmpresslon of the trial by the press The provision to take actlon against arly H~ghCourt or the result has been as my friend has pomled out. that thls Supreme Court judge I do not say that the execut~veor wider exposure of the judges' actlv~t~esIn the medm even lhis august body d~rectlytake any act~on Let the even though has some good effects has 111 effects too lud~c~arydev~;e an Instltutlon 01 11s own lo look afler The ill effects In the sense that judges are presumed to Itself But art ~nstitut~or~IS inore than necessary Nobody be equal, but all are no1 really equal. Tendencies are no organ ol the State In thls country can be unarnenable l~kelyto develop In some Judges to tailor the~rjudlcai to the w~llof the people ol th~scountry The Leglslature, work that would have greater exposure In the medla A the Pa~llamerit are accountable to the people the tendency would that be undes~rable.The H~ghCourts executli'e IS accountable to the people the ludlc!;~rv and the Supreme Court judges are self.d~sc~pl~nd must :ilso bf~made accoutable to thr penplc The lorr?~ ~nslltutlonas the Speaker of thls august House 1s the In whlch I! v.fII kavP t~ be made acrountablv IS tor the Speaker IS at least accountable to lhls House but the jud~c~aryand I~PSSI~I~tor thr Speaker c:f lhts august Judges of the Supreme Court and the High Courts arc House and other d~yr~~tar~esto t~nd o:~t not accountable to anybody, not to the people. not tc thls Parliament, certainly not to the Executwe and should W~ththese words I thank the Law Min~slerlor havmg not be to the Executive But th~slack of accountabl~l~t~ brought thls B~llI suppor! the amendment and the BIII has poss~blyhad a tangentla1 effect on the judicial work SHRl SURESH PRABHU iRajap~ir; MI Chatrman of the judges e

Leglslature. The respons~b~l~tyol the Judlclary starts the not lorget the fact that all the judgements have been moment and Leglslature fmshes 11s task of makmg laws delivered agalnsl persons who have been occupying The lntcrpretat~onof laws and the lnterpretatlon of the publlc posts have been the subject matter of dlscuss~on actrons of the Executive are thmgs whlch come under In the House and Parl~amentas such, as an ~nstitut~on. Jud~cialreview, many a t~me or the Members of Parl~ament.as the people's We have lound many people crltlcrse the functlonlng representatrves, have not been really coming Into judlclal of the Jud~c~ary,as has been done here In this very scrutlny as has been alleged by some hon Members House. We as parhamentar~anslook at Parl~amentas a here So. I feel that we should really have a look and soverelgn body We call it sovereign body because we we should not forgel, we should not overlook the fact are all accountable to the people and we derlve our that the Judlclary has a role to perform for the smooth power from the people The Judmary whlch was so funcl~onmgof the democracy. heav~lycr~tlcrsed now by some Members here has really However. I am really aware of the tact that I am not been the concern of the people at large They really standmg up to dec~deabout the late ol what would be feel that the Jud~c~aryIS the last resort and the~rr~ghts the chapter In the Const~tut~onIn wh~chthe Judlclary. could be protected only by the Jud~ciary the Executtve and Parhament should functlon because There are the quasl.Judlc~al funct~onsperformed that has already been stated In the Conslrtutlon but by the Elect~onComm~ss~on We have an ~nstancewhere r~ghtnow I am standmg here just to Intervene on thls the people feel the Ch~elElectiorl Cornmissloner IS the very hmited polnt of the amendment whlch is sought to sole guard~anof ttre~rInterests One persori has become be brought In. Thls could be described as too llttle and so popular desplte the fact that there have been so too late we should always remember that Const~tutlon many allegations of malfunctlon~ng alleged to have always thought that the Judges must be able to functlon been commltted by some funct~onar~esDespite that. independent of the ~nterferenceof the Execut~veand the Chlet Elect~onComm~ss~oner IS somebody who IS that was reason why the service conditions were worsh~ppedas a hero by the people at large st~pulatedIn the Const~tut~onllself. That protect~onhas When we parl~amentariansare accountable to the been glven to the Judic~ary.the Judges that their rights. people. people themselves tee1 that the Jud~c~aryIS the their pr~v~legesthe~r emoluments should be onlv instltut~@nwhlrh can protect the11 rights We should ~mplemenledby the Const~tut~onso that nobody can remember that we being accountable to the people. tamper w~thit. So. ~t is natural that those r~ghts.those should also respect the right 01 the people and respect prlvlleges that they enjoy should undergo changes from the w~llot the people tlme to tlme. I would hke tc say that we should not forget one Thanks to the ne* economlc pol~cv,wealth has ~mportant!actor that the people In our country have been created In the hands of m~lllonsof peoDle of hdla elected u5 because b%r. art- followmg a democral~cset The same Judlc~ary1s now supposed to try people who up 1r1 our couritrv One 01 the Fundamental princ~plesot have comm~ttedeconomlc offences which run Into democracy whlch 15 enshrined In the Coristitut~onIS the thousands of crores of rupees So. the same Judlclary Fundamental Hlghts M~IC~are enjoyed by all the peopie cannot be expected to perform deliver and dillgently ol lnd~aThese Fundamental R~ghtswere mtroduced In work with the same servce condmons whch were the Const~tut~orrbut there is no measure by which these prevalllng about thirty or thlrty five years back That IS R~ghtscould have been exerc~sed Therelore these why. I leal that there IS really a crying need to glve R~ghtshave no nieanlrq There are several countries In proper benel~ts proper emoluments tc, the members ol the world brhich haie gtven such r~ghtsIn ttie~r ~udic~arythe judges so that the\ could d~schargethe~r constltutmns but In the absence 01 a proper lud~cial respons~b~l~t~esand could protect the Csnstitut~on structule these r~ghtscould not be exercised and w~thoutan) lnterlerence arld without an) tear or tavour democracy has become a mockery ~n those countries We must have the highest regard for Jud~c~ary What 1s more important 1s that we should not and never There 1s alreadv a provlslon In the Const~tut~onwhch should we torget that Ihe Judlclary 1s something whrch allows lor impeachment I know that Impeachment 1s a IS necessary for the good lunct~on~ngof a democracy. process whlch IS very d~fflcultto practlse In the present trom whlch we derlve all our powers The Parhamenl, torm That process mav be rev~ewed But there 1s no the Executlvs and ttle Judlc~aryhave go1 the11 roles to point In crlt~clsmgthe Judiclarb lock stock artd barrel perform because 01 certaln mrsdeeds commltted by some The v~rious ludgements wtiich have been members of Judlclarv In some parts ol the country 1 ment~onedhere and whlch have been very heav~ly would request the hon Law Mlnlster to also look Into crlllclsed wore passed not aga~nstParlrament or the poss~b~lllywheleby Ihe servtce cond~t~onscould be parilamenlarlans but agalnsl the Enecutlve. We should changed . the quantum Increase In the amount ot 199 D~sapproval 01 S C R H C JULY I7 1996 Judges (Cond111onsof Servrcel 200 Amendment Th~rdOrd~nance, 19.96 and Amendment Bill rn emoluments that they recelve durlng the passage ol leg~slat~onhad been enacted In regard to the salarles tlme And we do not really have to Walt tor ten years or and servlce condltlons etc. of the judges After Ihat, I twelve years to Introduce one slngle change. That IS am observing that the~rcase IS cons~deredonce In why I say that 11 IS too llttle and too late. everv len years per~od,Th~s B~ll seeks to increase the sumptuary allowance and travelling allowance of , We should also remember one thlng. The object~ves judges. Mr Chairman. Sir. In both the case be ~t for whlch thls Bill has been 'introduced. stale that sumptuary or travehng allowance I flnd that the Execul~ve Increase In the prlce ol petrol has necess~tatedthese has rons~deredthe case ol the lud~c~arywlthout tak~ng amendments. This particular object IS dated 21st June the factual posll~onInto accourit Earher, a slmilar bdl. and on you have mtroduced a hefty prlce rlse of thirty In respect ot judges had been brought ten years ago per cent on 3rd July. I would hke to know from the hon I e In 1986 Sir, you w~llbe surprised to know lhat al Low Minister whether he IS also proposing on that time the sumptuary allowance ol Chlet .Just~ce of amendment to th~sso that the emoluments could be the Suprrmr Court was Rs.500per month or Rs 17 per Increased by thlrty per cent more. In the amendment dav You ?an sec thal the year 1986 IS not a matlci of wh~chIS Introduced the amount IS not quoted In rupees long past ~t 1s almost the piesent Thr p~lccsof It IS stated In terms of quantum of petrol. If th15 IS what cornm:d~tlrs In 1986 were not much low as compared ~t IS, then there 1s no need to state In the objects that the todab 41 that l~niethe sumpluary allowance of thta the Increase In the petrol prices has necess~tatedth~s Zh~elJust~cc of thc Supreme Courl and the thgh Court amendment because th~sIS the quantum Increase In bvas fis 1, and Rs 10 per day rcsy~c?ct~vr~lyIt appear:, the consumption of petrol Itself that the Exwutlvc has same hetr~dnessIn thc~rmmds I would hke to draw the attention of the hon M~nister towards !tw jud~clary otherwise 11 has nil mrancng I of Law and Justce to a very Imporlant polnt It has alsc ~voulaIlk? to hno\$ Ihr vlervs 01 Ihe ~OI'I'~I~CLab: M~rilstrr been re~teratedby some of the hon Members earher Iri lh~sregard The Judlclary IS not only the H~ghCourl and Supreme Cwrt Judges. The common man hardly reaches lhat stage to get his grievances redressed Just~ceIS reallr done to him at a very lower level such as dlstnct courts or even lower to that The servlce condlllons of the pdges of these d~str~ctcourts needs to be Improved I am aware of the fact that In S~ndhuDurga dlslrlcl and Ratnagm district of Konkan the Judiclary does not have even a proper accommodat~on Probably, sc~mr constitutional measure should be brought about tc! ensure the Independent functlonlng of the Judiclary I would request the hon Mmster also to condsder as sa~dearher whether there could be an enabllng ~rovlslon whlch allows the Jud~ciarv tc get their al1ov;ances mcreased In the passage of tlme due to lncrease In Ihe cost of liv~ngand not lo wall for the Execut~vetc reac! I1 IS because. then probably there could be an untortunale slluatlcrn In ahich !he Erecutive would say thal you are passing too many l~lrjgemenlsayalnsf us

Sc we vtould n31 !lke t5 passe ludgemen* on your demand Let the Execut!~e~erforrn the role ol the Executwe and ludgemenls be PaSSed by the Jfdifilar,f I would welcome thls arrtendment and I would requcs! the hon La* Mln~sterIC reply Ir. r.erlaw pomt that I have made

SHR: GORGE F E RNANDE S 1 PJaianda, Mr I ~ouldIIUF to mention the ~udgttnient pven bt Chairman Sir it appear5 that 11 1% bsxuse ot the feeling I~elhlHlgr~ f,oufl an cIoanlinor,c, at road6 In f)olh~ A 01 Execuli~etowards (udrclary that lhls B~llhas been few days bolore! 11 a armller ~t~dgamsnlwm glven by mlroduced In tnls Hausc sc lale Perhaps in 1958 s Palna H~yhCourl about Ihe rn81nlenane.m find 20 1 Dtsapproval of S C. 8 H C ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sakal Judges (Condttrons 01 Servlce) 202 Amendment Thud Ordtnance, 1996 and Amendment 6111

cleanliness of roads In Patna. Though several other thousand and in some cases Rs, one lakh as salary. So ~udgementshave been given by Patne Hlgh Court and such condrt~on1s preva~l~ngIn the country. I would not hke to menlron them 'all as rt will requlre a Some Members have made complaints that d~sposal full day debate I would like to crte these two examples of cases 1s taklng much llme whether these are the where people moved to Courts to f~lea complamt cases pertamng to atrocities against women or labour agacnst the negl~genceof pol~trc~ansof rulrng party who dcspute. The cases of labour d~sputesare lymg pendrng were respons~blefor macntenance and cleanlrness of In the Courts for last 25 years and no hearmg In roads and then judges gave the~r]udge;ent on these conducted for them But we cannot blame judges for 11. Issues and Interfered In these matters The slm~larthmg Thls Houses has also not thought about he shortage of happened In case of Delh~.Secondly. In context of the judges and other staff In jud~c~aryHad this House acllvlsm ol judges 1 would llke lo ment~onthe 'Havala thought that more appointments should be made there scam' A journalrst along wlth h~stwo-three fr~ends and they should be glven reasonable salar~esand knocked at every door In order to unearth lhls scam facll~t~esfor the11 effrc~entfunct~onmg 11 would not Letters were wrltten to hon Pr~meMrn~ster by varlous happened. In respect of lawyers I would like to mentton persons and MPs and I was also one of them but except that many Members ol thls House as well as bei6ngrng gettlng only one he reply nothmg happened In this to State legrslatures know thls fact that hrrmg a Supreme regard A fllm was made on I! but was promptly banned Court lawyer for gettlng the case postponed for another who banned 11" The Erecut~vehas banned 1t7 But for date costs lakhs of rupees. Mumba~H~gh Court and later the Supreme Court this Havala scam could not have seen the hght of the day Is thls not a known lact' I do not feel that there IS It ~ncludesofflclals of executives and polltlcrans as well any need lo express anger on ludges when we are '9 They would have never permitted lo come ~t Into the trylng to rect~fythe lnjustlce done to them In the matter I~ght Therefore we could well understand the reason of ralslng the~rsalar~es. I cons~derthat thls s~tuation behlnd thew anger, the~ropposlllon to ~t and why this would have not emerged 11 polrty of the country had debate IS golng on fils Issue been honest and polltlcal pames had tollowed the path of .democracy. Polltlcs does not mean favour~t~smor On hon Member has sacd that whether judges do earn money by hook and crook but I! IS a way of servtng not commlt mfstakes They do cornmlt m~stakes.One the publlc. Judges would not have been actrvlsl lo thal judge had made some undewrable comment and we extent ~t we had done that we had been passive and condemned hrm rn Ihrs House and sard that 11 would not pollty was confmed to the Courts of political leaders. In be tolerated But what was the attltude and react~onof Mumba~.Patna. Madras and Banglore. In such a th~sHouse when an Impeachment Mot~onwas moved s~tuat~onwhen polltlcs does not take up the Issues of agalnst a Supreme Court judge. Justce Ramaswamy? publ~cInterest then publlc 1s left only wlth one lopl~on 41 that tlme. the Members of rulmg parly who are no* and that IS lud~c~ary on the other s~dehad successlully managed to change ths falsehood rnlo truth on the basrs of maiorlty and Mr. Chalrman, sir, In my polltlcal career I have taken now you are preaching the people of this country and shelter of judlc~ary so many tlmes. Durmg the Pr~me the world as lo what should be the Ideal conduct of Mln~stersh~pol lndcra Gandhl emergency was lmposed ludges You should remember as lo who conducted the and the whole tiouse chlmed In. All the rights, human cnqulry belore br~ng~ngthal rmpeachment Mot~on, rrghts and rlghl to hewere se~zed.The Attorney General ~denlhedthe m~stakescomm~tted by that judge and has sa~dIn the Court that there 1s no r~ghtto Ilve When sent that document to the Speaker and other places It Delence Counsel asked as to what would happen then? was done by the ludges of Puntah H~ghCourt and Attorney-Gener81 rephed thal anyone who d~eddurlng judges ol Supreme Court who are addressed as brolher emergency duld move to Court atter uphftment ot emergency It meant thal people who would d~edurrng pdges In Courts It was not done by pol~t~clansor purnallsls It 1s nol proper that whlle dlscuss~ngthe emergency would move to Court after lhe~rdeath Such luncl~on~ngconduct and way of llvlng of judges we a legrslat~onwas passed In this House unanrmously. A number of Members belongmg to oppositron partus lorgot that real~tyWe should comment on m~slakesof were In 11s lavour and rest of them who opposed ~twere (I person or orgen~sal~onBut at the same t~mejustice In prlson at that time should be done to the persons engaged In ~udlclary Mr. Chalrman. Sir. d~clalorsh~pIS Imposed on Just now Prabhul~was saylng that th~sNew countries and law llke MtSA and TADA are enacted Econom~c Polley has helped a SpeClal class of the ~llegallywhsn Judlc~ary and leg~slallvejom hands country to prosper As a result ol ~tloday students comlng logether. In such srtuatlons judlc~aryprotect us. Srr. In oul of the Instrlule of Management alter complel~ngthe11 my 47-48 years pollt~calCareer Judmary has saved me courges are d~rectlyappo~nled by multmat~onal on several occasions. Madhu Llrnryel~and Dr, Loh18 comp8nles whlch oller them Rs 35 thousand. 50 0 ---- ,-..-A -A n--.:--s nnr 203 D~sapproval01 S C & H.C JULY " '""' ~uclges(c4urrarrrons or aervlcwl rur Amendment Thfrd Ordfnance. 7996 and Amendment 8111 were Members of thls House and I knew that on several The purpose of the Bill is lo replace an Ord~nance such occasions Judiciary had freed them from the tyranny whlch was promulgated In the month of January, 1996. ol executlve. Therefore whde speakmg on th~smatter In The purpose of the promulgation of the Ord~nancewas the House we should keep in mlnd the h~storyand to increase the sumptuary allowance of judges of he overall situation in this situat~onIn th~sregard. Supreme Court and H~ghCourts and to Improve the servlce cond~t~onsof the judges. Slr, the Ordinance was Mr. Chairman, I conclude while saying that this promulgated to enhance the sumptuary allowance ol in~t~at~veof Judic~ary would change the pohty of this the judges. The demand IS h~ghlyjust~l~ed and so. I country of politlclans promlse to work honestly for the support the 8111. progress of the natlon. Mr. Chairman, sir, the same thing has happened in Italy. Forth last 40-45 years ltaly Some of my fr~endspoke about the judlc~alact~vlsm. was under the rule of mafla but today 11s two former There IS a radical difference between the judlc~alactlv~sm Prime Ministers are in jails, one of them is suffermg and the judicial despotism. I do not want to refer to the imprisonment for eight years and the other one for flve reasoning behlnd the judc~alact~vism or jud~cial years. The cases of both the former Prlme Mlnlsters of despotism. Wlth your kmd permlsslon. I beg to ment~on ltaly are still going on in the Courts. It may happen that here that ~tIS not that only lawyers go to the courts. The by the end of thls year three former Prime Mln~stersof pollticlans and the bureaucrats also go to the courts lor ltaly would be In prlsons. gettmg judgement There 1s a precedence that the haads of the Governments have gone to the Supreme Court Mr. Cha~rman,sir, we should not dlscuss the Issues for gettlng judgement. be ~t In respect of Ayodhya, rlver of others but I would like to mention that an Amer~can water d~str~bution,or In respect of many inter-State President had been dethroned for just tellmg a he. He related subjects of the Constltut~on.Th~s IS only because sa~dthat he was unaware of the fact that a theft had of the fact that the ludlclary plays an Important role In taken place In the offlce of Democrat~cParty. Later on our pubk life. The Const~tutionof lnd~astands upon journal~stproved it and he had to go to )all for I\. It is three wlngs, namely, the leg~slature,the ludlc~aryand a drfferent matter that Vice President forgave him and the executlve. Judlclary IS the most Important of them thus saved hlm from bemg imprisoned. I am not because it protects the r~ghtsand freedom of the people mentlonlng the names of other countrles but same It is the repos~toryof people's fath and conlldence It IS situat~onis In Japan and other countrles. Wh~le the only lnstltutlon whlch can carry the good old concluding my speech I would hke to mentlon the name tradit~onsof 'Nyayshastra' of our country. So, we can of ltaly again. Judges had sacrificed the~rhves In ltaly enhance the sumptuary allowance of judges of the while f~ghtingagalnst the maf~a.The lawyers assoc~ated Supreme Court and H~ghCourts. The~rservlce cond~t~ons w~ththem were also k~lled. can be lmproved so as to create a sltuatlon In whlch The police officers holding h~gherposltlons, always they can render the~rservlces w~thoutfear and enjoy the~rlife all over the world. They never lost thelr favour. :; lives only the constables lost the~rlives. In Italy. While supporting the Bill seekmg to enhance the hundreds of persons have been k~lledby Maf~a.The sumptuary allowance of the judges. w~thyour klnd Judic~alMaglstrates. Lawyers and Journalists were permlsslon. I beg to mentlon that there IS another s~ds present there and were engaged In search~ngthe Maf~a of the coln also. The people ol our country have been The police personnels had done their work honestly in suffering from the economlc strlngency, from the arresting the th~evesor Mal~a'spersons. I thmk that economlc hardsh~pol the day They are llv~ngbelow the today, only judges are most actwe In Ind~a.Some lawyers poverty Ime. There IS the vast problem of unemployment are also actlve. I want that the pohce personnels may Educated but unemployed boys and g~rlsdo not flnd be encouraged and strengthened In th~scountry. any avenues for the~rearnlng. The problem of Journahsm should also be given encouragement unemployment IS grave. It cannot be comprom~sedw~th so that with the present judicial actlvlsm, honesty can other thmgs. Naturally. ~t IS my observat~on,that any ' be revived In th~scountry where our pol~tlcshas been suggestion or any proposal of the announcement ol unsuccessful. Sumptuary Allowance, any suggestlon for the announcement of Pay and Dearness Allowance for the prlvdeged class, casts a very damp dark shadow upon SHRl PRAMOTHES MUKHERJEE (Berhampore, the m~ndsof the unemployed youth In our country WBi Thank you, for glvlng me an opportunity to express my views on this important Bill. I have heard many valuable speeches on the subject. I will not take much (Shri Ch~ttaBasu m the Charr) of your tlme to finish my speech. On behalf of my party, In these circumstances, I would urge upon the Pr~me RSP, I rise to support the Bill. Mlnister and the Government to make some provis~ons 205 Drsapproval 01 S.C. 8 H C ASADHA 26. 1918 ISaka) Judges (Candrrrons 01 ServrceJ 206 Arn~ndrnenl Thrrd Ord~rirlncc?.1996 and Arnendrr~enlBrll

lor employment generation for the unemployed youth. Dr Ram Manohar had sa~dthat the Erecutwe, the At the same time I would urge upon the Members 01 this Leg~slatlve,the Judrcrary and the Press were lour plllars august House to get the Bill passed. Th~sIS only of Ind~a.If anyone of these pillars becomes weak. ~tcan because of the fact that the standards of the Judlclary cause great loss to the democracy. Perhaps. hon ' should be ma~ntainedand that the values ot the George Saheb IS not here otherwise he would have Judic~aryshould be malntalned supported my point.

There IS a quest~ontoday that the ~ntellectualproduct jEng11shl of the Unlvers~ty goes elsewhere. There are different layers In the ~ntellectualsof a Un~verslty.The f~rstlayer MR. CHAIRMAN : Please address the Chalr. of intellectuals In the Unlversltles has a chow for the computer and Electron~cEng~neermg courses After f~nlsh~ngthew courses, they fly over to Japan. Amer~ca SHRl GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA . I am addressing or European countries to earn huge amounts of money. the Chair. He IS asklng that who was Ram Manohar There IS a second layer 01 ~ntellectuals In our Lohlya. I told h~mto go to the Central Hall to see hlm. Unwersttles wh~chseeks med~cal courses etc . to earn hls portra~thas been ~nstalledthere. Accordmg to Dr huge amourrts 01 money The br~lltantproduct does not Lohlya, out of these four p~llars,the p~llarof the choose to go Inb the law course today So. In order to Execut~vehas become weak to some extent as a result attract today's brllllant product 01 the Un~vers~t~estowards of whlch jud~c~aryhas taken all these th~ngsin ~tsown the Servlcc 01 Judges of the H~ghcourt and the Supreme hands That 1s why, people are feel~ng~t unusual. Now- Court. this B~llshould get passed. I Support the B~llonly a-days when you watch your T V you see thmgs golng In order to attract the brllllant product 01 the llnlvers~ty on as to what IS todays judgements and whether this or to this Serv~ce At th~sstaye the Judges. I thlnk. should that person has been granted ball or not. These petty be glveri the security, should be given the comlortr~a5 thlngs today particularly. ;/nterrupt~ons) far as pract~cable wtlh~nlhls soc~oecorlomlc system AN HON MEMBER What happened today') Thls IS to protect our democracy, this IS to protect our SHRl GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA . I do not know Consl~tut~or~.th~s IS to protect our tradtt~onand as to what happened today but some persons were her~tage Ieelmg uneasy I do not know as to what judgement has been gwen about the case 01 the lormer Pr~meMln~ster 15.54 hrs. We w~llcome to know on T V In the evenlng I feel very

sad, therefore, my whole , i/nferrupltonsl It w~llbe declded on 19th Now. everybody IS apprehenswe about StiRI CilROHARl LAL RHARGAVA iJatpur I Mr the outcome At present. Judlc~aryIS playlng a very Cha~rmari.Sir. 1 have heard many speeches commentmg good role In this country against the judgertlents glverl by the judges It .hurt my leellngs t~ecausethe Bill has been brought hero orily In thls connect~on my submlsslon IS that an All lor secklng enhancement the sumptuary allowance 01 lnd~aJud~c~al Servlie should be formed and judges hon j~~dgesor to pay them the amount equal to the should be provtded w~ththe fac~l~t~esof good actual cons~rmpt~on01 petrol. Whenever you go to the accommodat~on,transport good hbrary and handsome residence of a (udge and s~tIn 111s Chamber. vour are saiar~es Today. I was asklng h~mas to whether he served w~ttilassl, coflee, bread or L M I3 sweet ctc would accept the post of a pdge 11 he was oftered !he T'herelorc, ttle €3111 also provldes to pay them sumptuary post of a judge In the H~ghCourt' He told me that he allowarrce to meet the~rexpenses on account ot th~sAs would not l~heto be the ~udge01 the Hlgh Court because such you w~llget hospltallty and the11 expenses on he would get less salary there It a person IS pald petrol w~llbe compensated handsome salary, he (lnterruptrons I I th~nkthat In thls era, after the God, people have SHRI RA~~ESHCHENNITHALA YOU can ask fa~thIn the ludic~ary.We say that the God will do lustlce Lodtiap as to whether he got handsome money but he does not come here I have not seen the God SHRl GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA A Member 01 I1 anybody 01 them has seen hlm, please tell me I do Parhament gets Rs 5500; out 01 whlch he has to pay not know about him (Inlerrupt~onsJPlease llsten someth~ngto h~sparty and for electrlclty. water. attent~vely,I am golng to tell a very ~mportantthing telephone and rent for uslng a stool. 11 any It means Alter golng to that s~deyour Ideals have also changed you get a very Irttle amount You are also experlenclng God 1s not present here. only a judge 1s there In place t~nanc~alhardshlp Today the MP 1s gettlng what I am 01 the God Earher. meetlng 01 judges wlth the people trying to open thelr heart Now you have understood or vlsltlng tfle publlc places were considered as a crlme. the sltuatlon ~~cAuS~lt lnvolves money Therefore you Even today. I thmk that the Judic~aryIS tho most have gone to that side otherw~seyou were enjoylng powerful. better posltlon here 207 Statement by Mlnrsler JULY '17, 1996

Therefore, w'hat I mean to say is that judges should 7000 persons at queue outs~dethe temple. The be paid handsome salaries and prov~dedwith good stampede occurred al the leet of a staircase leading to accommodat~on,transport and hbrary facilities only then the temple sanctum where the p~lgr~msrushed lor they can perform their duty honesty and property worsh~p.The ~mmed~atecause ol stampede seems to otherwise. 11 w~llbe very difficult for them to do their job have been some persons sllpplng on the wet marble properly...( Interruplrons) Besides, security arrangements floor. It was reported that 34 persons were declared lor them are necessary. dead on arrival at the Ujjaln cwil hospital. These lncluded 23 males lncludmg one child and 11 lemales. Shr~Guman Mal Lodha who 1s an hon. judge, sittmg 29 persons were admltted to hospital with Injuries of ' before us In this House He has been a judge In the whom seven were reported to be seriously ~njured.SIX H~ghCourt of Assam and Rajasthan. Dur~ngh~s tenure of the ser~ouslyinjured have slnce been sh~ftedto the he has gwen ludgements assumlng a post card as a med~calcollege hosp~talat lndore lor spec~al~sedmed~cal pet~t~onand In some case, he has given judgements treatment. The State Government of Madhya Pradesh even one the bas6 of news items published In a has announced a hlgh level admln~stratwelnqulry Into newspaper the causes of thls rodent whlch w~llbe conducted by a judicial ofllc~al.The terms of reference ol the lnqulry 16.00 hrs. ~ncludethe causes of the tragedy, the adequacy of Thrs an example of a judge and the Judlc~aryagalnst arrangements made by the dlstrlct authorltles, the whom some hon. Members were passlng remarks I promptness w~thwhlch medcal assistance was prowded thlnk that the Members of Parl~amenthave no r~ghtto and steps to be taken In future to prevent recurrence of pass remarkseon the funct~onmgof judges Whenever such lnc~dent The State Government has announced lnjustlce has been comm~ttedagalnst anybody In the ex-gratla paymenl of Rs 1 lakh lo the dependents of country. Judmary has done well. Therefore, I would llke each person k~lledIn the stampede. Rs.25,000 to those to request that an All lnd~aJudic~al Serv~ce should be who were ser~ously~njured and Rs 10.000 lo other constituted. The sltuallon of today IS that. I have got a Injured persons The11 med~calexpenses wtll also be document according to whlch. there are many places tn met by the State Government Wh~le~t IS expected that the country where the posts ol judges are lymg vacant the respons~bil~tylor admlnlstratwe lapses will be f~xed I do not want to waste the tlme ol the House by readmg by the h~ghlevel adm~n~strat~veInquiry, the State out thls document Government has. In the meant~me.translerred the Clly Superlnlendent ol Pollce, Ujjam. the Town Inspector In. charge of the temp@ area and the Executwe Magistrate MR. CHAIRMAN . Would you kmdly resume your on duty seat? I thlnk. at 4 o'clock. there IS another subject lo be In so far as the lnc~dentat Hardwar IS concerned. taken up You can contlnue tomorrow the State Government ol Uttar Pradesh had ~nlormed Now, hon. Mmster Shrc Maqbool Dar to make a that 20 p~lgrlmsd~ed and SIX pilgrlms were Injured on statement ot the ~nc~dentsof death of pllgr~msat Ujja~n July 15 It was expected that about 15 lakh pllgr~ms and Hardwar on 15th July. 1996 would gather on the occaslon. but. In fact, aboul 25 lakh p~lgr~mshad collected at Hardwar on the occaslon of 'Somwat~ Amavasya" In the pasl. p~lgrlmswere using two br~dgesat the Hark1 Paurt, bul on Ihe two br~dges 16-01 hrs. was not In use as I! had been damaged due lo rams In the last year. The stampede occurred when a large STATEMENT BY THE MINISTER number 01 pllgrlms Wed to push the~rway through one br~dgeat about 6 30 In the mornlng Incidents of death of Pllgrimr at UjJrin and Hardwar On recelpt of the reporl of the lnc~dent.Shr~ D.K Arya. Advlser lo the Governor DG (Polce) and Stale THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF DG of Health Servlces ~mmed~atelyrushed lo Ihe spot HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI MOHO MAOBOOL DARj Sir The State Government had also decided to have a durmg the course of d~scuss~onIn the Lok Sabha on jud~ciallnqulry In the matter In the meanwhile. the July 16 the hon Home Min~stershared the concern of State Government had announced an ex gratrr paymenl the hon Members on the heavy loss of ltle whlch took of Rs. 1 lakh lo Ihe depandent of each person kllled in place at Ujjaln and Hardwar, and had promtsed to obtam the madent and Rc. 25.000 to those qured The injured ~nlormal~onfrom both the State Governments are belng trealed at Government Hosp~tal Further, a The Slate Government ol Madhya Pradesh has senlor Sub.lnspector 01 Pollce and one Naib Tehslldar, mformed that on July 15 a large crowd 01 devotees had who were on duly near the bridge have been gathered at the Mahakaleshwar Temple, srtuated In suspended Ujjain C~ty,al around 5.30 a.m There were about 3000 As v ev~dentfrom Ihe rbporlr of the two Stata persons In Ihe temple premises and another 6000 to Governments, Ihe prrma facre rearons lor rlampodb 209 Slalement by Mrnrsler Dmussron Under Rule 193 2 1 0 seem to be inadequate arrangements for crowd control 16.1 1 hrs. on the occaslon of such an ~mportantfestwal. The report of the Government of Uttar Pradesh, for example, states DlSCUSSiON UNDER RULE 193 that there were only one Sub-Inspector and one Na~b Flood Situation and Natural Calamities in Tehsildar on duty at the bndge. As menhoned by some Different Parts of the Country Members and Home M~n~sterYesterday, there have been mismanagement and lack of proper precautions on the [Englrshj .part ol the author~t~es.The deta~ledreasons for the MR. CHAIRMAN Now we go to the other Item of tragedy will, no doubt be ava~lable as soon as the the Busmess of thls House That Item IS regardmg flood lnqulry reports come In. But we hope that the other sltuatlon and natural calamlt~esIn d~tterentpans of the State Governments would, In the l~ghtof these ~nc~dents. country and ~t should be moved by Prof. Prem Smgh \sue appropriate d~rect~onsto their held offlcers to Chandumajra. prevent recurrence of such ~nc~dents. PROF PREM SlNGH CHANDUMAJRA (Patlala) , SHRl MANORANJAN BHAKTA (Andaman and Mr Cha~rman,Sir. under Rule 193. 1 want to draw the Ncobar Islands) . S~mplysuspend~ng ol one Nalb attent~onof the Government on an Important matter Tehs~ldar would not do (Interruptrons) whch belongs to the whole country MR CHAIRMAN I am on my legs Please s~tdown [Translation] , (Interruptrons) Mr Cha~rman.Slr. II you go through the facts MR CHAIRMAN . I am on my legs. You please showmg the damage done by the floods, you will come resume your seats to know that every year. floods not only destroy crops worth crores of rupees. but also damage houses and above of all thousands of cattle and hundreds of people :Trans/arionl d~edue to ~t For example. In 1995. more than 600 SHRlMATl JAYAWANTI NAVINCHANDRA MEHTA people d~ed.more than 2.2 lakh houses damaged and (Mumbar South) He has told about Uttar Pradesh only 1 66 lakh cattle dled all ovh the country. In 1988 the and not about Madhya Pradesh Ilnterruptrons)' floods caused more damage than this, specially In Punlab where Patlala city was fully Inundated and as ~'Engi~stt!~ a result property worth mllhons of rupees was damaged due to ~t The same situation was In Ludh~ana.Jalandhar MR CHAIRMAN Noth~ngIS going on record a'nd Flrozpur cltles of Punjab Likew~seIn Haryana. lEngllsh) last year, more than 50.000 ~nhab~tanlswere MH CHAIRMAN There IS no rule, whch allows compelled to come Into terms you to sreh clar~ticat~onsWe must go by the rules /Trans/atron]

I am of the oplnlon that the Government IS not MR CHAIRMAN You are % senlor Member There serious enough to check damage on th~saccount Thls 15 no rulp rr'h~thallo~s you seck~ngclar~f~cat~ons In this problem was not taken ser~ouslyand the measures Housr taken In thls regard were all temporary one. A Certain 1 iP!P!lilpt~OnSJ amount was made ava~lable for flood rellef In ant~c~pat~onof flood and ~t was taken tor granted that MH CHAIHMAN Nothmg w~llgo on record except the flood w~llcome and th~smuch amount wdl be made what I said aka~lablefor th~spurpose. but thal too was not properly , ~ntcrruptrons) allocated The asslstance as well as funds should be prov~ded The Central Government prov~dedRs 800 {lrenslat~ofl; crore In 1994-95 and Rs 1130 crore rn 1995.96 for th~s SHRl THAWAR CHAND GEHLOT (Shajapuri I am purpose Thls amount IS bemg enhanced every year on ,a po~rltol ardel My po~ntof order IS that but the same IS belng mlsused The Government dld not f lnterrlrplr@rrs1 plcasc RIIow me pa) any heed to II In 1988. Ihe Government had ~ssued Rs 100 corre tor flood rehef out ot wh~chRs 32 wore /E nqltsh] were spent as adm~n~slrat~veexpenses What re1101 d~d MR CHAlRhlAN Thcrr 1s no polnt ot order people gel rf Rs 32 crore were spent on jeeps, aerial survey, d~eseland payment of TA. DA7 The patwans and tehs~ldarsalso take the~rshares from 11 bul Ihe aftecled people gel noth~ngout ol lh~srekd amount. JULY 17. 1996 D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 2 1 2

The concession of Rs. 500 per acre 'IS virtually no help. Atal B~har~Valpayee. He instructed the M~n~stry01 Mr Cha~rman.Sir, the loss of farmers due to floods IS Railways and the coal was suppl~edto the projects The really a matter of grave concern The Government has problem of coal is not only being faced by Punjab but not shown the much expected seriousness In th~s by other States also. lrrlgation prolecls can solve these regard The Nat~onalWater Resources Comm~ssioriwas problems but unfortunately the projects are bemg set up in 1983. The hon Prime M~nisteris ~tsCharman. delayed The construction work at Them dam In Punlab the M~nsiterof Water Resources IS ~tsdeputy cha~rmarl IS golng on tor the last several years. The in~llalcost of and the Ch~efM~n~sters of the States are its members. the project was Rs. 65 crore but now 11 has escalated Sir. two meetings of the commislon were held In October to Rs 2650 crorc It is st111 not known as to how long , 1985 and 1987 respect~velyIt is the serlousncss of the w~llit take to complete th~sproject. The Un~on Government. No permanenet solution of the problem Government does not provide funds to the State has been found and the extra water flows away to Government ol Punjab to tackle floods and as a result Pak~stan Several parts of the country, at present are the flood waters of Vyas and Satluj rivers cause heavy laclng the drought problem due to lack ot water but the damage to the State When the issue of water arises Government IS not thmkmg to utd~seth~s extra water I. we talk of 'Hrparmn La*' I e the reglons wh~chsuffer therefore, would hke to suggest the Government to mahe the loss due to flood, should have the r~ghtto use the the country flood proof just as 11 has been done In water Therefore, we dernar~dwater tor Punlab as per Russ~a.R~vers. In Russra have been canalrsed and the ,R~par~ariLaw Some day back. I had glven a thus people have been saved trorn ~tsdanger Even suggestion for thls purpose dur~ngZero hour There IS Amer~cansnever face Ihe Ire of floods, 5G wars haie a Ghapghar rwer i\'h~chflows through Patlala, Ambala past since we became Independent but st111 i$rare Ku:c~hshetrn H~ssarand Sangroof If Haryana Hlmxhal tacmg the fury of floods. The permanent salut~onof th~s Preadcstl and Punlab lo~ntly construct a dam there problem can only be found if the Government takes flsod can br ;)rei t~ntcdbes~des the problem of potable actlon on my suggest~ons. water cr: Chand~garhcan bc solved and Patlala My first suggestion IS that the Government sho:lld Sangroor Kurukshelra and Ambala drstr~ctscan be take up dredg~ngwork which w~llIncrease th~tI@w of provlded water for rrrlgation purposes I through you. the river and the r~ver'scapaclty as vie11 It vdl help In would hke to urge upon the Government of lnd~athat 11 proper d~sposalof water aqd the danger cf tlmd ran be should prov~dernaxlmum a~dtor th~spurpose and that averted dam should be construct~dso that Punlab and Haryana could br. saved tr:m the danger of flood The embankments of the ri,ws are maac. >t mud and therefore 11 IS wansed awa,. ~Cler,raln comes f,4~ Irj the last I :rould lhe to soqps?that 1111 the tcrnp suggesstlon IS that the ernt;ankmenrs shsulu be rhe Govflrnrnent f~ndsa permanent solul~onof th~!, zonstructeo w~tbthe help of stones finrrh are ava~iabic problem I! h,ouId bc bclter !~rthe Gorernment !cl free IP mountains The Ci;,dernmen! pa5 ro pa, a lot bf ~ntr-tdwcf.crop rnsuranccj scheme 1:) protect the paoplc. amglrnt as cc~rnpensat~wtc !he ticma vrctrrns hut I! lhls tr3- !he dnnyel of flooc! and nat~lralcalarn~t~ss tier(\ mone, IS u!li~sed tor !he CO::S~:~:!~;-IC, st sr+rte bbjilt I! !rw +gh! sf a Insured vehicle is broker) the ou;ncbr embannrnents, a perrnanrr,: S31~!l;T 2' !'Ie f1.3~3car tre gets tali compensatron tor 11 but Ihe farmer gets Rs 500 ach~eved pe! acre if h~scrop worth Hs 1000b IS dostrovecl ,hcpet':rr. the Govsrnrnent should ~rlflOd~j~t*;:ray Another suggest~sr,IS !b.a! !rr~gat~r~r.p!nje:!s should 1n5uran~r.s;'~P~P as soon as ~OSSIOIP AS a PPrrr,an(*!':! be prepareg A? amljunt 5' G5 5; !*13tisan3 ~rorehas s!.!d:'c!* fit tt11s ;~roblcm *ha! Morarl: Dosa~t, been spent so fa. on :hese pvQ!ec!sbut VI!~20 rnllllon Go~errimc~nt!bought In 1977 IS :f?rv rmporliint Btvlorc. acres of lana has beer t~jgrt!un'fer ~rrlgalmcr~der Thai fihr: K! War, It)(: M~nrr,tcl !:A ir!~gnt~ur\Irr Irid~ra the reason Oehlna ~t :s tnu ctera? tn projects v~crlcould Garrdh: ', r,fjd(.rr~rnerithad sdggestt!rl 111 llrih tttc northerr1 not prsvlde the des~reaSertetl! It these pyolects arc r!.,err, nith wt~ttwrnrirc4rs 11 I! IS ~mplemf~ntedItw comm~ssionedIn tme the ganger .;f flmd car1 be ccuntry tan be wved from the llood as well from the averted and water for Irrlya!trl~r can be prciv~dedto the as drought riur posltron 15 Ilk& the mon who had twr> peGple It can generale mulfi.p~rposebeneft!~ lt cart daupktIers One of them marr~edto lsrmer arid control the lloods and by stormy this #.atr?r In dams we *as a the 31h~to il potter Wtwn the rnonsoon arr~vedsome can use I! for rrrlgatlon purposes one askeu the farmer as lo how h16 daughter6 were Mr Chrrrrman. Sir povisf gene!arrori by !!lr:rrnal locng He rophed that one ot lhvm 16 sullorlng due to pwer plants 1s costher The porrer genera!icn trorr~ttlc ram and anothcf one 101 wan1 01 ram So 11 ~t ram thorl hyde! projects w~llbe cheaper aes~das~t wir r,.jrrtar th(?rl?15 llood and 11 11 does not ram Ihs drought causns the pbllul~ort When Ihe supply of wal !rj the ttisrrnai haucrf. Thcrefare II would bl! batter 11 Ihe r~ver lmk power plants of Punlab was not made tr; tlme I brought Khem@1s ~rnplsrnented Wllh lhese words. I conclude thrs thm? lnlt the not~ceof the then Prime M~n~sferSt~rl r'lnrsrruplronsj D~scusstonUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26. 1918 (SakaJ D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 2 14

[Engl~sh] Cauvery have become practically empty The people of Tam11 Nadu, of course, always look towards Karnataka MA CHAIRMAN , Please s~tdown. The first name 1s of Prof. Prem Slngh Chandumajra and the second for water on the rlver Cauvery. Now, they are armed name is of Shr~Uddhab Barman One hon. Member IS with the lnter~mAward whlch has been passed by the to move or lnltlate the dlscusslon. The name of Shr~ Tr~bunaland very often they also go and knock at the Uddhab Berman IS there In the Party 1st. He w~llbe doors of the law courts. How do we ffnd a permanent called at due t~me solut~onto all these problems? Now Shr~Dhananjaya Kumar w~llspeak Str, now even the South lnd~aalso has been lashed by the rams There were very heavy ralns In the three SHRl V DHANANJAYA KUMAR (Mangalore) In . southern States Kerala Tam11 Nadu and Andhra the hlstory of thls august House we have commenced Pradesh. There have been 34 deaths due to floods It wlth the dlscuss~onson the sltuatlon ut floods as well has been a regular feature thal very often severe as drought cond~t~onspreva~l~ng In varlous parts of the cyclones h~tthe coastal areas of Andhra Pradesh. country It has bee1 a regular feature In th~sHouse to This Inltlate such d~scuss~onsspecially dur~ngthe Monsoon t~mealso, due to servere cyclone there have been a number of deaths In the State of Andhra Pradesh. The Sesslorl Th~syear this Sewon IS all the more Important because this IS also belng cons~deredas thr! Budget cyclone had even reached the State of Mahrashtra tnls Sess~on t~me.Know~ng lully well the cond~t~onspreva~l~ng rn these parts of the country, should we not thlnk of f~ndmg We have been tecelvlrlg news about the flood a permanent solullon to thls problem' 5ltUatlOrl gett~nyworser~ed In varlous parts of the country Sper!all\ th~syear. 111 the North In the Western reyon. I would say that the norms whlch are set, maybe In the North.€ast and also In the southern States We by the F~nanceCommlss~on or the modalltles that have haw also seen that lhcre have been aer~alsurveys been f~xedIn the meetmg of the Ch~ef Mln~stersfor conductetf by not less than the Pr~meM~n~ster of th~s gwng asslstance are totally unsat~sfactoryand they w~ll countrb hlrnsell I would say th~sagalrl has become a not solve the problem I would suggest that the mere rltual After conduct~ngthe aer~alsurvey, the Prime Government of lndla should thmk of settlng up a separate M~nsterwould stand up In thts House and say that he fund other than the Nat~onalCalam~ty Rehef Fund The bas helpless that h~shands were t~ght,that the Fmance Nat~onalCalam~ty Rel~el Fund. as we know. IS a very Ccimn~ss~onha3 al:ead) declded the modalmes for small k~tty The M~n~sterof Agrlculture would always d15t'lbitlOrl 01 Ceitral assllance whlch was avadable to stand up and say that he 1s helpless. he IS gu~dedby r ari3ds States the rules and regulations and he IS gu~dedby the dellberat~ons of the Fmance Comm~ss~on.The other I! bve go deep Inlo thls problem thls IS nothmg but a ?eai human problem The topography of thls country day. the Pr~meMlnster and the Mlnlster of Agrlculture itself sqgests that we rnusl th~nkof a long-ranging have been saying that they would make the releases In programme b~h~chwauld have a permanent solut~onfor advance. ~f necessary They sa~dthat the money whrch such havocs i :+cruld Ilk@lo remmd th~saugust House IS due to varlous States from the Nat~onalCalam~ty the amb~:~ousprogramme Ilkc the lmk~ngof the Ganga Rehef Fund would be released In lnstalments and that ax! !he I;aurcr) ~hchLSAS though of and whrch has the Slates could draw the money In advance erl,~s~pr!tq 11r' emmen! tvllnlster In the Government of MR CHAIRMAN The ttme allotted for th~s :rbo~a L!~rl,srer !i,r \';ater Resour:es. Dt K L Rao dlscuss~onIS two hours and there IS a llsl of a large r~tSLIC~ a project has never been number of hon. Members who want to speak In th~s Inl;.,iprvc-~ttbg;in[f iilb:ays ice tlnd !hat we are unable to d~scuss~onIt 1s qu~tenatural that a large number of V,.;,;~C ~:.rlr)!. tiir ~rnpierntnl~ngsuch amb~t~ous hon Members are w~ll~ngto pamclpate In th~sdlscuss~on yr~grclrrlvrr~~, .~:~ld IPII vclu ttiat th~swould defln~tely Therefore 11 IS my request that no speaker should lake t1n3 art oirtlast~ngsolul~m tor !he problenr wh~ch1s more than 10 mlnutes belr,g fait*;! !!I(* cfiuntr)-rncri dirr~ngebery nlOnSOOn DR 5 SUBBRAMI REDDY (Vlsakhapatnamr Mr s(?fi~;~r:?!IIS t~rnc' Ksrnn!aha I shvuld sav was saved Cha~rman Slr. flve mlnutes are sufflclent because 11, A gfct;,! er{~!i!from the ha~ocsof the floods. hut evervtrodp IS repeahng the same polnts Insltlad wr blil,(+ drairqhl I~ke,-ond~t~ons In malor porllons the Slate i7f h;rrfi;ttdh;l MR CH41RMAN Okay. Thtr rallls hi,,.,? ~~lstbcgilri 1 ti^ .?thtYrdav. there has SHRl V DHANANJAYA KUMAR Sir my suggestion b(?p,, riei,rc:~ illb,i,s~,ilr\ 111 tti~sHOLIS~' fegardlng to the Government 1s to set up a separate fund out of rul,?ilS,, jrlrr~~ttw IWI Cauverv to Tan111 whlcti a deflnlte asslstance could be rendered to the Nitd~r States In case of R natural c,lam~tvUnder the present set of rules. they put so many restrlctlons for draw~ng DLIP ,trir,lg!lt i.~)ri~i~t~~;~~mdtiue to scantv falntall In r;i,lchr illC.I tt~tvwrvolrs hullt on the rlw the money from the Calamltv Rellel Fund They say that 215 D~scussronUnder Rule 19.3 JULY 17. 1996 Drscussron Under Rule 193 2 16

unless a particular situation is declared as a nallonal we have been hearing flood control and erosion of river calamity, the fund cannot be prov~ded.Then, while Brahmaputra. The Government has undertaken certaln assessing the damage elther to the standmg crops or projects for conslructing dams in Dibong and Subansm. the loss of Ilves, loss of heads of catlle, there are certaln These dams have not yet been constructed on this plea gu~delmes. or that plea. Bul the actual reason is not known to us. Slr, we cannot solve the human problem lookmg The Government of lnd~aIS avoidlng 11. By construcllng from the coloured glasses and saying that we are bound these dams. ~twlll get two more lmporlant projects. One by Ihe set norms. I would requesl the Government of is hydro electr~c protect the power of which IS less lnd~alo thmk of an alternallve arrangemenl. A fund costly and another IS ~rr~gatlonprolect whlch can prov~de should be kept purely at the discret~onof the Government ~rr~gatlonlo half ot the country So the Government's of lnd~awhlch can be made use of as and when such negl~genceIS not understood 1111 today For th~s calam~t~esoccur and ~mmed~ateassistance should be neghgence. the State ot Assam IS burnmg rushed to the needy people The Government of lnd~a , The Brahmaputra rlver IS two kilometres In breadth should come to the rescue of the concerned Stales. In my distr~ct Now 11s breadth has become 15 Km It As you know. the State Governments are hard reached the Meghalaya boundary. Now you can pressed for giving any kind of rebel because the~rBudget understand the magn~tudeof thls problem whlch cannot IS too small They cannot envtsage such a clamity. be tackled by the State Government whlch IS sullermg Only who are slttlng here at the Centre, a1 the level of from acute f~nanc~alproblems. . the Government of Ind~a.can thlnk of such a mechan~sm So, my humble suggestlon IS that the Government so that the Government of lnd~acan always come to the should ~mmediately undertake th~sdam constructlon assistance of the needy people work The Government should lake up the constructlon So. I just leave thls thlnklng w~ththe hon M~nlster of hydroelectrrc and lrrlgatlon projects of Agriculture and I would lns~stthat at least now. though At the same t~me.I would suggest Ihat the late but I! IS not too late. let a thmklng be started for a Government should undertake ~mrned~atelylo control prolect hke linkage of Ganga-Cauvery so that the aclual the tr~butar~esof the rlver Brahmaputra whch causes llnk between the North and the South be establrsed as major floods In the State Th~sflood not only causes early as poss~bleand we could thmk of a permanent damage to the standlng crops, but also damages and solutlon to such problems blocks the roads and the br~dgesand d~stupts SHRl NURUL ISLAM (Dhubr~! Sir flood, drought. communlcatlons So, these floods should be earthquake, starvation and cyclone. these are the natural controlled calam~t~esIn our country. The Government has not We have been used to ltve wtth floods due to the prepared any long-term or short-term pol~cyfor neghgence ol Ihe Government of lndla for the lasl 50 controllmg these calamities durmg Ihe lasl 5G years years As a result, we are not afra~dof floods now Whal So, my humble suggest~onto the Government IS that 11 IS more dangerous 15 the eroslon of sod caused by the should have a long term plannlng and shorr term m~ghtyrlver Brahmaputra whlch every year no1 only measures against the flood. drought earthquake renders lakhs ol famll~eshomeless and landless but cyclone and storms. Slr you know lhls country has got destroys the most preclous sod of the Stale, the so11 many rlvers and the Government has not taken 1111 today whlch can produce three crops In a year without the any strong measure It does not have a delmte water appltcat~on of any sctcnt~flcmeans Therefore the poky about these rlvers So my suggestlon . as I have Governmen! must take all these polnls lnlo cons~deralton already suggested several t~mes- IS that lhe waters of and save the Slate The Central Government musl come rlvers of Ganga. Brahmaputra ar~dCadvery should be In a b~gway In th~sregard It 1s understood that uur declared nat~onalwaters and any damage done by nal~onalGovernment IS called a not~onalwcllare these rlvers should adequately be compensated by Ihe Government But we are shocked to say lhal 11 IS actmy nat~onalGovernment otherwise so lar as the State of Assam IS concerned Sir, the Brahmapulra rlver IS one of the cruel and Slnce the last Icn years. In my const~tutrncyalone mighty rtvers whose llood has caused extenslve damage 60 000 lamlles have been rendered landless and to the economy of Assam because Assam s economy IS homeless due 16 lloodr and eroslon I have repoaledly agro-based Every year the flood damages 11s economlc ralsed lh15 mallei on the floor of th~saugusl Hause but backbone Th~sthmg has repeatedly been sa~dto the nobody has l~slenedlo me I slmply crled In valn These Central Government but the Central Governmenl has 60,000 fam~lresare now llvlng hke wild an~malswithout not patd any heed to 11 The State Governments cannol water, w~thoutsheller. w~thout food and w~thoutany adequately hadle th~scolossal problem unlll and unless modern amenlllos Th~sis Ihe poslllon Governrnont the Central Government comes In a brg way to the should rmmed~alelycome up, before 11 16 too late, w~lh rescue of State Governments. Sir. lor the ladl 25 years a comprehens~verehabtlltallon lor these homeless 217 D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26, 1918 (Saka) D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 2 1 8

and landless people of the Dhubr~distr~ct and With these few words, I thank you very much for Goalpara district, in particular, and the State of Assam, giving me the lime. In general. MR. CHAIRMAN I want to announce In thls House The Government of India has constituted a that the Busmess Advlsory Committee today have Brahmaputra Flood Control Board, but it is only a Ilp dec~dedthat th~sdebate would c6nclude today. The sympathy. It is very sad that we are used to this Ilp Mln~sterof Agriculture will reply at 7 p.m. I seek the sympathy. Th~sBoard does not have a Cha~rmanlor the cooperat~onof all the hon. Members in this regard last 20 years. It is not lunction~ngat all for want of SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA (Kottayaml : Sir, a funds This IS the way in which the Government of lnd~a wants to control the floods of the rlver Brahmaputra. number of hon Members want to part~clpatein thls dlscuss~on.So, some more tlme may be allotted to this So, my humble suggestion to the present Item.. Ilnlerruptlons) Government IS to have a sympathet~c look at thls problem of the State of Assam I belleve they will PROF. RASA SlNGH RAWAT (Ajmer) , There are defln~telytake certairl measures to control lloods and many Members who wlsh to partlc~pateIn th~s revltallse the Brahmaputra Flood Control Board. dlscusslon So, the time should be increased.

Th~syear's flod IS contlnulng. Th~sGovernment's MR. CHAIRMAN . It has already been decided that callousness shows that they did not care even to sent the debate would conclude today. The Mln~sterwlll reply a team to vlslt the State In order to assess the magnltude at 7 p.m of the s~tuat~onThey are sltllng t~ghthere. At least, the SHRl V V. RAGHAVAN (Trchur) : Respected Government 01 lnd~acan send a steam or an oflcer or Cha~rman,at the very outset. I would l~keto say that I a Mlnlster to assess the magnltude of the sltuatlon fmd ~t very hard to explam In words the plrght of the They are ngt domg that and they are just takmg the most unfortunate people of Kerala atter the flood havoc '. plea that enough money has been glven for flood wllel thls season The otflc~alf~gures will speak for themselves to the State. We do not want to llve on flood rehe1 The number 01 personed d~edof llood 1s 31: the dlstrlcts alone affected were 14 and the vlllages affected were 1015 We want the protect~onmeasures. We want the The number of persons affected was 3.51 lakh. The llood control measure Every year, we cannot suffer So. numbers 01 persons Injured was 114. The houses fully we want that the Government should come In a b~gway damaged were 1113 The number of houses parttally to protect the State from llood and eroslon of the rlver damaged was 9945. The value of crops damaged was Brahamaputre In the State of Assam. to the tune of Rs. 2664 lakh. To compensate this huge Lastly. I would hke to draw your attention, rather the loss, it has been stated by our hon. Mln~ster01 Agriculture attentton 01 the Government of Ind~a.to the fact that that the allotment as per the recommendat~onsof the slnce the last fifty years, they are telllng somethmg Tenth F~nanceCommlss~on mlght be used. For the State aboul lhls dam but they are not taklng any actwe and of Kerala tor the whole year the allotment 1s Rs. 55 elfect~vesteps to construct it. So, my humble suggest~on crore. From this amount. two quarterly rnslalments that to th~sGovernment IS that they should ~mrned~ately come up to approxlmatety Rs 26 crore were disbursed see to I! how Iar 11 IS feas~ble.There are lots of by the prevlous Central Government to the prevlous teas~b~l~tvreports There are lots 01 technically feas~ble State Government In 1995 ~tself. reports The advance was d~sbursedfrom the allotment But all these have gone In valn at our cost So. that made tor the year 1996 1 do not know how this can 1s why !he State 01 Assam IS burnlng. We are blammg work The Fmance Comm~sslonhas allotted Rs. 55 crore that the State of Assam IS burnlng. ll there IS a lot of lor the full year And to compensate thls huge loss It Insurgency 11 there IS a lot of mllltancy, lt IS because of has to be met from the total amount. H two tnstalmenls the negl~genceat every stage If I could narrate ~t,not are glven In advance HOW can I! work7 We are not only In respect of llood and eroslon measures but also respons~blefor th~sadvance The Central Government In respect of commun~catlonand olher thmgs, there 1s should take the respons~blhtyfor this We must get the negligence They talk highly 01 lntrastructural faclhes tull allolment of Rs 55 crore as per the Fmance In the State But they are not doing ~t They w~llnot do Comm~ss~on'sallotment That is our r~ghtkgally also That IS our experience durlng the last flteen years They You have to disburse ~t In full. lelk h~ghlyol all these thlngs. Bul they do nothmg So. my request IS that before 11 IS loo late, the Government THE MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE (EXCLUDING should come forward w~lha comprehens~veplannmg to DEPARTMENT OF ANIMAL HUSBANDRY AND protect the economy of the State. prolect the people of DAIRYING) SHRl CHATURANAN MlSHRA They are the State and protecl the SO11 of the State from flood and yours. You take 11. For Kerale, slrll we have Rs 20.775 eroslon crore. If they requlre, they can take I!. We w~llhelp 219 Dmussron Under Rule 193 JULY 17, 1996 Discussron Under Rule 793 220

them. It is the~rmoney as well as that ol the Central walls, to strengthen the present protection walls and to Government. But we should receive message from you. construct the remalnlng parts of the sea shore. I cannot send 11 by my spec~almessenger. You come On these two scores we need help. Please glve us and take ~t. the full amount allotted by the Nlnth Finance Commission SHRl V.V. RAGHAVAN : That 1s not my pant. My and help us construct the protection walls along the , polnl IS, out of Rs. 55 crore due to us for th~syear. the Arablan Sea shore. total of two quarterly lnstalment comes to approximately SHRl UDDHAB BARMAN (Barpeta) , Mr. Cha~rman Rs.26 crore and th~swad disbursed In 1995 by Ihe Sir. ~t is already sa~dthat every year we have been prevlous Government to the previous State Government d~scussingthe subject of flood and drought. But concrete in advance That should not be deducted from th~syear's steps for the removal of th~sproblem have been taken allotment. That 1s my contention. so far. In Assam we have already faced the flrst wave SHRl CHATURANAN MISHRA , But the money 1s of flood and we are walt~ngfor the other waves of flood still there You exhaust 11 I w~llcompensate it because up to the month of September there IS golng . .. (lnterruptronsl to be d~fferentwaves of flood In Assam damagmg a lot SHRl A C JOS (Idukk~). You are from the s~irne of property, roads, commh~cat~onsystem, etc party In th~syear. the flrst waves has already affected SHRl CHATURANAN MISHRA . Flood 1s not :I w~ty 2650 v~lia~es.The crop area covered IS 1.82.276 question hectares: the population affocted IS 18.59 103 peoplc and the human hves lost 1s twelve Bes~des,there IS SHRl A C. JOS. l am only remmd~ngthe Min~ster loss or damagc to the roads, br~dges,etc to be more generous. SHRl V.V. RAGHAVAN : For that matter we, all the 16.58 hrs. 20 Members of Lok Sabha from Kerala, share the same (Mr. Deputy Speaker In the Chair) vlew.. . lnterruptronsi Mr. Deputy Speaker Sir. I can c~tethe f~gureTh~rteen MR. CHAIRMAN : Mr. Raghavan. please address dlstrlcts out of 23 d~strlctshave been aftected by the the Cha~r. flood, part~cularlyDhemaj~ dlstrlct 1s the worst affected. SHRl V.V. RAGHAVAN : Another problem which So far 18.59,103 people are affected by the flood. The Kerala 1s facmg IS the problem of sea eroslon The crop area affected IS 1,82,276 hectares Every year the damage that has been Inflicted upon the people 1s such flood 1s takmg a toll of not only the wealth created by that hutments of thousands of fishermen have been our people, but 1s also causlng a great harm to the washed away. properties of thousands have been economy and also to the ecolog~calbalance of our swallowed by the Arab~anSea. Our valuable so11 IS State. The mam reason lor this flood 1s the torrentla1 also bemg eroded So we have to protect the lengthy ralns In the areas of Brahmapufra and ~tstr~butar~es sea shore of more than 600 kdometres. But there IS a and Barrak and its tr~butar~esThese torrentla1 ralns f~nanc~alconstraint to protect the sea shore The State normally bring flood and cause a lot of damage to the Government 1s not able to do tlmely protect~onof the people of the State and to ~tseconomy. . sea Sometimes the State Government used to help us to protect the sea shore. to protect the houses ot 17.00 hrs. fishermen But we have not rece~vedany help from the Forty per cent of the water resources are bang Central Government after 1992 We have subm~ttedmany contr~butedby the rlvars Barrak and Brahmapulra But schemes. We are submlltlng agaln But my humble these water resources are stdl to be tapped In the the submlsslon to the Minlster for Arg~cultureIS to protect Interest of the economic development of that area, soclal us from the Arab~anSea. When the sea is In spate, the development of that area There IS a hydroelectr~c f~shermencannot go to sea and thus, they starve We potential In that area. In the ent~rerlver system, ~t IS have to give them ration. we have to help them So estimated at 41.000 megawatt The total hydel potent~al. protectlon of the sea shore by erectmg a rfall is an IS 84.000 megawatt In the country. Hardly lour per cent urgent need. We d~dthat In some pans But that too to six per cent of the potentla1 1s boing ut~l~sedAs a requlres maintenance. And a large port~onIS st111 to be protected SG protect~onof the sea shore 1s an urgent result of Ih~s,became of nun-harnessmg ol the water task to save thousands of f~shermenand the~rhouses resources In that area. it IS creating flood and causlny From Trwandrum to Kasargod In every monsoon the damage lo the economy, whlch 1s a purely peasant Arab~anSea 1s so angry that ~ttries lo swallow the soil. dom~natedeconomy. In that area. So, everybody leek the fishermen's huts and coconut trees. Thls tlme also that the lloods should be controllod. 11 has happened. So. hberal help should be glven to the So far as the steps taken to control the floods In State Government's projects to erect sufl~c~entprotectlon that area, that 1s In rlvers Brahmapulra. Barrak and the~r

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keep on d~scuss~nga sltuatlon arlslng out of flood In the people who are solely dependent on flsherles and which first SIX months of the year and the sltuatlon arlsing out IS the~rmaln actlvlty should also be protected; and a vra of drought In the next SIX months of the year. I would medla should be found out whereby our fishermen like to know and to be - enhghtened from the hon. who are really llv~ngfor more than 500 years at that Agrrculture mlnlster about - how much money we have place, should not be affected because of the judgment spent In the last 50 years on flood rel~efas well as on of the Supreme Oourt restrlctlng the erection of bullding drought relief. up to 500 meters from the sea shore so that they can I remember, when we were students. we used t@ erect small structures arid carrv on the~ractlvitles. always hear of a scheme llnklng all the rlvers of Ind~a. Fishermen cannot carry on the~racllvl!y 5n hdltops: and There was a scheme tor llnklng Ganga w~thCauvery. they have to necessarily l~vethere. Therefore, thls there was a scheme called 'garland' scheme: and there problem needs to be looked Into because llood dmages was a plan called Capt Dastur Plan whlch would have the source of llvel~hoodvery badly every year. llnked all the rlvers of the country and whlch would The Central rel~etwh~ch goes to a State IS have helped In not only maklng available the scarce determ~ned by the provlslons of the Flnance water whlch IS very scarce now, but also would probably Comrn~ss~onI am aware that the resources are very prevent flood and the sltuatlon arlslng out thereform. scarce and we cannot really keep on glvlng money or Probably thls would also help in the nat~onal~ntegratlon dole out money to the extent to whlch 11 IS demanded It would have solved many problems ~ncludmgthe But whenever the natural calarnlty occurs. whether 11 IS ava~labil~tyof many th~ngsIn the Mmlstry whlch he In Rajasthan, whelhcr ~t IS In West Bengal. whether ~t presides over and also would have helped In creatlng IS In Assam or whettrer 11 IS In Mahrashtra, the magn~tude a large number of lobs In rural Indla. Th~swould also of calam~tydltters, and we cannot really foresee the prevent spend~ngmoney on problems arlslng out of slluat~onThe Fmance Commlss~onwhlch makes a report , over-urban~sat~on.So I wtsh that the Government also once In f~veyears c,annot keep on ludgmg, what could comes out w~tha Wh~tePaper on th~sIssue about how be the damage that could be caused In the next flve much money has been spent and what actlon could be years The ~eopleIn the F~nanceComm~ss~on are not mtlated now. though 11 IS late. But better late than never. prophets ar~dthey car) only make f~nanc~alallocations. and we have to start the actlon plan on that count I arn So. we rnust have some sort of a norm whch enables more concerned about the nat~onalIssues and I am the Central Government to come to the rescue of the also concerned about the Issue whlch IS arlslng In State Governrner>rIn the event of a malo1 calamlty whlch Maharashtra whlch also unforturlately has to face a could arise sltuatlon of flood and drought In)nany parts I would defln~telyl~ke to share the sent~mentof my I come lrom a place called Konkan whlch 1s an other tlrends from other States who sald the llves of the area on the shore of the sea We always get floods. and people are devastaled beacause of malor natural water comes from the sea lnlo the villages whlch are calamlt~es ~nh~bltedby flshermen The llood rehef operatlons that are really necessary could not be undertaken many I would request the M~nlsterto make a pollcy In , tlmes because of certaln regulat~onsImposed by the such a manner that ~t also remalns flexlble and not to Tentral Government You may be aware of the regulat~on determ~ne ~t by the provlslons of the Ftnance ~hlch1s arlslng out of the judgement of the Supreme Commlss~on alone Court vhch prevents any structures to be erected on There IS a need to have an ~ntegratcdpollcy the shores up to 500 meters from the polnt where the because viater resources would no1 keep on lncreaslng sea touches the shore Thls also causes tremendous *~ththe passage of tlme And these are hkely to deplete hardsh~psto the flshermen because they cannot even with more populat~onand more urban~sat~onThere will erect a structure even lf the old structure IS d~lap~dated be more demands on the already ava~lablewater because of passage of t~me I would request the hori resources So I would request the hon Mln~sterto make Mlnrster to do somethmg on thls score. flood rellel operatlons a part of the ovrrdl oppral~ons I would also like to draw the attention of the House where utll~sat~onof water becomes n centrc.polnt of to a decls~onwhlch we took earher In the day that ever1 plannlng We should also spend more money on the Mlnlster of Surface Transport would be present here plannlng of water resources ava~labll~tyrather than when this debate takes place so that he could also curlng 11 by makmg flood rehef as a thrusl of our partlclpate In 11 I do not know whether that Mlntster IS acltlvlty. also present In thc. House besldes the M~n~sterof SHRl BHAKTA CHARAN DAS (Kalahandl) Mr Agriculture I would request the Mlns~terconcerned to Deputy Speaker. Sir, so far as the llood sltuatlon 1s look ~ntoth~s concerned, our country has often been prone to drought I am aware that the environment has lo be protected and flood For years together, th~sHouse has discussed at any cost In add~t~onto that. the lwes of m~ll~ons thls Issue. In splle 01 planning and several other 225 Discussion llnrl~rRole 193 ASADHA 26. 1918 (Sakar V~scrrssron Under Rule 193 226

provis~ons.we have faded to save our people from the has been a satell~tesurvey of thrs Naupada dlstrlct We natural calam~t~esThat 1s why I would request thls do not frnd water even below 200-300 feel but we do Hosue to express 11s scrlous concern and fmd out a not th~nkof such a reglon The former Prlme Mlnlsters way to save the poor people especrally when the flood had gone there and vrsrted that place, slartrng from Shrr or drought occurs. When flood or droughl occurs In th~s Hap Gandhl to Shr~Narash~mha Rao. Shr~Chandra country the poor people In the vlllages suffer a lot and Shekhar had also gone there; he had gone by foot to nobody pays any heed to that problem. Merely by many parts of the poverty str~ckenareas of Kalahand~ dlscussron or glvlng a staternent does not solve the and Naupada. In splte of all these the poverty sltuatlon drought and flood sltuatron perrnanently has not been allev~atedand permanent measures are Or~ssahas been very much prone both to flood and not taken When I was Member of the Nmth Lok Sabha. drought The d~strlctsof Ganlam. Purr. Kend~apara. 1 had demanded for deep borewell In Naupada and Bolanylr Kalahand~and Sambalpur have suffered Kalahand~and other 017sreas as a permanent measure hcavlly due In Hoods I w~llespeclally talk about my but the Government d~dnot pay and heed to that Now conslltuer,cy. Kalahand~ It tias drawn the atlent~onol also nobody IS paytng any attention lo thls. the whole nat~or~It has freqilrntly suffered trom drought. I specially request the hon Mln~sterof Agr~culture Thls year because of erratrc ranfall or because of no and 1 th~nkhe 1s very much aware of the sad pl~ghtof ramfall In many parts of Kalahand~and Naupada d~strlcts Naupada and Kalahandl I think most of the party people of Or~ssawe have wrtnessed ser~ousdrought condltrons. of hls party had also been to Kalahand~In 1986-87 It IS not a! all ralnlng tr, the d~strlctsof Naupada and Kalahand~was rch In agriculture In 1936. when Bengla Kalahandi The loss of crops has by now been lo the wtnessed drought, many var~el~esof rlce were supplred c.xterit of 60 pcr cent I would request the hon M~n~ster from Katahand~.So. Kalahandl and Naupada are famous of Ayrrculture to pay special attentron to thls and also for mrneral deposlts but I do not know why permanent instrtrcl the concerned State Government to lake ' measures are not taken to save the people from necessary measures w~thrrgard to llood and drought permanent attack of drought and flood I would specially ~,lluat~onIri Kalahand~and Naupada d~str~cts request the Government. through you. to take permanent Kalahand~and Naupada d~str~ctshave been famous measutcs In my const~tuency.Kalahandl. wh~chIS most fcrf drought A lot of people havr rnrgrated lrom these famous lor 11s problems These problems have been In cl~str~ctsto d~ffcrentpart of our country ~n search ol existence for years together. There should be a bread and butler Marry Ilrrvs starvation deaths and permanent s~lutronto these problems rfrffercnt k~ridsof drseascs have occurred ~n these d~strtcts All Ihls has rocked the natlon When poverty IS drscussed Kalahand~is not lcft out When the leaders SHRl GANGA CHARAN RAJPUT (Ham~rpurl. Mr chscuss povcrty, they cornperc. me drought sltual~onof Spehael. Sir. I thank you for givlng me the opportunltv Kalatmndr w~thEhtlopra That 1s why I would spec~ally to parlmpate In th~sdlscusslon. req~lestthc Government through you that rnstead ol Currently. the floods are In the headlmes In all the !pmg relref, permanent measures should hr taker1 up newspapers The~ehas been a loss 01 l~teand property H~rrrdredsof voluntary orgnn~satlonshave rushed Into Pubhe money worth bllllons and trllllons of rupees IS Knlahand~to undertak~the lelwf work And Government riasled by the Government in lloods control measures IS spend~ng;I tot ol money It IS of no use unless arid The Government has not as yet formulated any plan to untrl permacent measures arr taken up prevent the destruct~oncaused by floods The The lridrawat~Hivc~ Prqect has beer) estlmated at Government spends crores of rupees under Flood Rel~el a c:ost of Rs 232 crote It was supposed to be cornpletcd Fund but the money spent by the Government so tar lo In 1985 It woilld nov, take anottwr five to ten years The pre~cntfloods IS very less In 1994-95 Government cost of the pro1ec:t has gcrnc up to Rs 1.200 crorc It IS spent approxmlmately 800 crore rupees under Rehef a project to ~rllgatc2.50.000 acres 01 land. It wrll Fund ~vhercas11 spent only 329 crorr rupees to prevent generalr 600 MW electr~i~lyon the other hand \Ye are floods If the money glven by the Government to the ~nv~tlrigforeigners to Ilaw power prolects In our country people under Flood Rellef Fund IS spent beforehand to But I do not knw why such a hydropower prolecl IS prevent floods. the loss of life propertv and llve stock hemg neglcctfd rrl our coirritry {Interru~~I~onsI could be saved The Agrlculfure Mln~sterIS present here We are lnv~tlnqthe niult~n~~t~onalsThe Ind~rarlver Through you I would hke to make a submrsslon to hrm prolect IS undergo~ngsurvey for many years but 11 1s yet especlally because he 1s the leader of the farmers and to have a place In Ihc! Budget If the lndlra rrver ~rrqat~on the poor and belongs to the Commun~s~Partv as well project or the Tehhat~ rlvrl Irrtgallon prolect would be The present Un~tedFront Governmen1 comprrses varlous there In Naupada d~strict.11 would have been beneflclal ~deologles H has got the support of Ihe Commun~st for lh~sarea There has baen a survey and I thmk there Party Samalwadr Party and the Congress Party Ever 227 Discuss~on Under Rule 193 JULY 17, 1996 Drscussion Under Rule 193 228

since this Government has been formed, the people of pain. This ,time 52 percent members elected to the the country especially the poor, the backward classes Parliament are farmers, that IS why the farmers and the and the farmers have many expectations from these labourers expect a lot from th~sLok Sabha. They expect parties. The poorer section of the people has that the plans formulated by the Government will be in expectations particularly from the Communist Party that favour of the tamers and the poor labourers. with the format~onof their Government, the poor will be Through you I would like to make a suggestion that looked after and arrangements will be made for the money spent by the Government to prevent the safeguarding their lives and properties. Simply because flood, to give compensation and to dstribute relief the rich never suffer any losses in floods. Mr. Deputy. amount should mstead be spent on the constructlon of Speaker. Sir, whenever there are floods, droughts or small check dams. Reservo~rsshould be dug up In natural clamit~es,the loss is always borne by the poor. v~llagesso that the water IS conserved In villages ~tself We have never heard of floods cla~mingthe Me of any Check dams should be constructed on small r~vuletsIn leader or a capitalist. Whenever flood cla~msany Me. villages so as to retain the water In the canals ltself it it that of a poor person, a poor farmer or a poor which could then be used for irrlgat~on.Thls w~llbe labourer. Their huts are wahsed away. We have never benef~cialIn two ways. After the rams, the water could heard of palatial buildings bemg wahsed away. Hence be used for ~rr~gat~onalpurposes. Slowly that water these people have h~ghexpectat~ons from the present would be released In the flelds whrch would help lrrlgatc Government that it will formulate plans to prevent the our land and 11 would also check the flow of water In loss of lives and property of the poor in the. event of already swollen rlvers floods in future. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, through you. I would hke Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, so far as the causes of to tell the Government that durmg the year 1994.95 a floods are concerned most of the floods are caused total of 54.535 cattle herds per~shedand 2038 people when either the dams give way or develop breaches or lost their hves In floods Those k~lledwere the pool sometimes when there IS an overflow because of excess larmers, labourers Not a smgle ch~ldof the rch d~ed rain and the water collected therem is released In the The b~ggest suffered In Gularat where 345 already swollen nvers. The Government spends a lot of vcas llves were lost In U P, floods cla~med317 llves money on construct~onof b~gdams wh~chgo on to Throughout the country 92900 houses were danlayed because the cause of floods and thereby destruct~on.It or wahsed away because of flmds All these houses causes death of the poor and loss of life, property and belonged to the poor farm labou~ers.Apart from this. livestock. If the money presently be~ngspent on stand~ngcrops on 41 77 lakh hectares alea were construct~onof big dams IS util~sedby the Government destroyed. About 2 crore 35 thousand peolc and 72.941 to construct small dams, check dams and if ram water villages were affected because of floods The loss on is conserved in the f~eldsand vdlages ~tself,the floods account of floods 1s suffered not once In a wh~lebut can be prevented. But the Government IS least every year. concerned about protect~ngthe poor, it IS more concerned about the p:otect~on of the rich. All the plans When we have to bear losses every year because are formulated to ensure the safety of the rich. If the of floods why the Government has not formulated any rlvers passlng through the metropolltan c~tiesare plans as yet to check lhls destructlon, to save the poor flooded, a lot of money IS spent In Delh~.'pucca' farmers and labourers and to prevent the~rlosses embankments have been constructed alongs~de Perhaps 11 IS because all of us who are slttmg here Yamuna. One never witnesses a flood of such magnitude ' forget tho mlserles of farmers and the poor We care for which would clalm hves or property because VIPs and thew problems only when we are outs~dethe Parl~ament rich res~dein b~gcit~es The Government never worrles but once we enter the Parl~ament,we forget everythmg about the villages where the poor, the farmers, the about !heu problems Here we are surrounded by urban labourer Iwe. Every year the v~llagesare flooded and people, the flatterers who flatter us for their own solf~sh every year houses are destroyed there. Mr. Deputy ends and then we tend to remember the~rproblems only Durmg the Parhamentary debates, a lot of t~meIS Speaker, Sir, ~f a hut of poor person 16 destroyed that person alone knows about the effort that goes In wasted on such Issues wh~chare meanmgless Such a rebuildmg it. subject has never came up for serlous d~scuss~onIn Parl~ament 'Varsh beet jaate ham ek ghar banane man, MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Please come to the point veh taras nahin khaate hem bast~yanjalaane mem.' SHRl GANGA CHARAN RAJPUT : Yes Sir. I am When the fury of floods is unleashed, the villages aware of the time constramt and the houses are washed away. Ch~ldrenspend the~r n~ghtson trees. Only the vilagers are familiar with this I would like to request the Agr~cultureM~n~ster because Shr~Chaturanan Mmhra IS known as a 229 D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sake) D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 230

prominent leader of the farmers and the farmers have become a routine affa~r,Instead of adoptmg a routine a lot of expectations from hlm, Hence I suggest that the method, we have to evolve a permanent pract~calmethod allocat~onmade by the Government to prevent the floods and strategy to tackle th~sproblem. There were many should be util~sedto formulate such plans whlch could experl vlews expressed so tar and many conferences prevent floods so that ~t mlght not become recurring held at the international level and at the national level phenomenon. If that IS done, the poor farm labourers but taking Into cons~derat~onall the recommendations can be saved, water can be conserved In f~eldsand In of these conferences - I do not wapt to go into all the v~llages,small dams can be constructed lnstead of recommendations - and expert vlews and practical spending money on rel~efoperat~ons under flood Rehef experience, a clear-cut approach and strategy have to Fund. 11 the Government spends crores of rupees to be evolved with a practical sense. I would urge upon prevent floods, the destruct~oncaused by the floods the Government to ref~xthe norms for the relief 4 every year would be checked. W~ththese words, I operations. conclude. Thank you. Sir, the Government of India, accordmg to my SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV (Patna) . Mr. Deputy information. has f~xedRs. 20.000 ex gratia t6r the Speaker, Sir, I should also be glven the opportunity to dependents of the deceased people. Recently the hon. speak. Prime Minster has sanct~onedRs. 50.000 from the MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER . Is your name lncluded in National Relief Fund to the dependents of the deceased. the 1st glven to me by your party' But that is the kmdness and the gracefulness of the Prme Minister. SHRl V.M. SUDHEERAN (Alleppey) Sir. Kerala IS very severely hit by the recent heavy ralns, f,oods and I would request the hon. M~nlster,as part of sea eroslon Agricultural crops, houses, roads and publlc ass~stance,the Central Government should sanction propert~eswere damaged very heavlly and many Rs. 1 lakh to the dependents of the deceased due to k~lometresof the sea coast was very much eroded. As natural calam~ties.Th~s should be made mandatory. Shrl VV Raghavan sa~d.32 persons dled due to the Otherwise we cannot satisfy the dependents of the recent natural calamltles SII, w~ththe advent of the deceased, at least, to certaln extent. South West Monsoon wind, the sea coast of Kerala 1s I would l~kelo lnvlte the kmd attention of the subject to severe eroslon resultlng In, a cons~derable Government that the norms f~xedfor other areas have loss of property, resldentlal burldlngs, dlslocatron of life to be rewewed. Fro example. accordmg to the exsting of lakhs ol population especially f~shermen.The sea norms. the Government lo lnd~ahad fixed Rs. 4000 as eroslon IS a spec~alproblem whlch has lo be attended assistance to be glven In case a house is dameged to very ~mmed~ately fully damaged due to a natural calamity. Is it possible In Kerala, every year, we are experlenclng thts to reconstruct a house w~thRs. 4000? problem The people of the ent~resea coast have I would like to lnvlte the kmd anent~onof the hon. suffered Th~shas been a major problem durmg the Mlnlster that the assitance glven to small and margmal season In whch most of the sea coast area, lncludlng farmers is restricted to 25 per cent and 32 per cent my const~tuencyAlleppey and other dlstrict Qudon, respectively subject to a celllng of Rs. 2500 per hectare. Tr~chur.Callcut. Kasergode. Enakulam are bodly affected. The poor tarmers are not In a position to meet the A major portlon of the sea coast IS very much affected' very badly by the sea eroslon. So. In th~sconnect~on, expensses for further cult~vatlonand all that So. this cons~dermgall these po~nts..(Interrupt~onsl has to be revlewed.

COL RAO RAM SlNGH (Mahendergarh) . There IS So, my flrst appeal to the hon. Mmister 1s hat to no Mln~sterIn the House At least, one Cabmet rank have a tresh look should on th~sIssue and to have a Mlnlster should be present In the House practcal vlew as far as the rehef operat~onsare concerned. MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER . Shr~Balwant S~ngh Ramoowaha is here I would request the Government to have a very serlous view also on the Issue of sea erosion. Thls has COL. RAO RAM SlNGH I am very sorry )been the major problem as far as Kerala 18 concened. . . (Interruphons) Now. the Government of Kerala 1s not In a position to SHRl V.M. SUDHEERAN . Thls IS a very serious meet the huge expenditure bemg Incurred tor sltuatlon whlch has to be attended to wlth utmost prlorlty constructing sea-walls and reform the exlstmg aea-walls. and care. In thls connection. I would urge upon the Now, the Government of Kerala has submitted a Central Government to revlew the existmg gu~delmes comprehensive proposal to the Central Government rellef operations, regarding construction ot sea-walls. Th~sestimate ot the As I share the sentiments expressed by many ol my comprehensive proposal IS about Rs. 403.66 crom. I tr~ends.We dlscuss the drought and flood: and thls has request the Government to have a serious view of the proposal and clear 11. F~nanc~alasstlance to the Issue has become an anriual leature In our country Government 01 Kerala tor constructmg sea-walls and Floods arc among the most d~sruptrveacts of nature for re-lrom~ngthe ex~stlngsea walls may sanctioned. Severe floods occur every year In one or the other part T~ll1992 the Central Government was sarrctlorllng loans of the country causlrig trelriendous damage. loss of l11s tor thrs purpose but that was d~scont~nuedfrom 1991- large scale damage of property and untold mlserres of 92 So, th~saspect has to be taken Into cons~derat~on the mrlhons arid m~ll~ons01 people. and the proposals subm~ttedby the Government of Out of tho countries total gcograph~calarea - 328 Kerala has to be scant~oned Outherwise the rn~ll~onhectarcs - 40 rnllllan hectares has been Government of Kerala. wlll not be in a posltlon to assessed to be thc flood prorie area Out of th~s.31 construct see-walls as requ~red.During monsoon per~od. m~ll~onhectares has be~nnssesscd to br protectablr there were Instances of sea eroslon. In one ot my and only eqht mllllon hrrlarr area has bern affectccl Panchayats, namely Arath~puzha,k~lometres 01 land by floods every year by lotallon dur~ngth~s monsoon have been taken ove! by sea I would request the hon season The rrops nrco aftcctcd pcr year IS about 3 5 M~n~sterof Agr~cultureto have on the spot study to scc mtlllon hectares Thc total n~1nrht-1of llves lost annually the grav~tyot the problem of sea erosion In Kernla due to floods IS about 1 439 dr~dthr proprrty lost dur When Mr. Barnala was the Agr~cultur~M~n~ster. he had to floods Iri rnoriey va!w IS nhor~tR:; 900 crore been to Kerala to see the grav~tyof the sea eroslon and It 15 no doubt A velv srrlous and alarming ncws he sanctroned a substantial amount for construct~onof SII as per ths yeas statlst~cs out !if 32 States and sea walls Unlori Tcrr~torlcs.16 Stalt>s arcb tlood ~llcctcdand the Slr. ~t is a major Issue and th~sIssue has to be crops arca damaged 111 ttlvsc, 16 States arc more ttirt11 taken very ser~ouslyto save Kerala, to save Ihr 2 4 lakh hectares thr lrvrs lost arca nlnrit ttiari 750 f~sherfolk,to save the people. the ent~repopulation on houses damaged arc m~reth;~ri thrc,c lakhs and rattk the sea coast Otherw~sethey will be put Into utter heads lost arc rnare thari 14 O(10 miseries. Thelr lrves are very much miserable So I would like to stalr tht' Slate-wsc! darn;qr tlgurcs ccns~derlngthese aspects the Government of lndm has wh~chcan ens~lyrev~al how thr magn~tuclc~nl thv to take a very tenlent vleu: and f~nanc~alassistance has darnage IS In Andhra Pradch there wrrcl 52 deaths to be prov~ded~mmed~ately 6 096 trectar~shad ken att'ctcd and 3 421 fam~l~e!. I request the hon M~nrsterto convene a conference had been affected In Assam therc were 22 deaths. 2:) of Members of Parhament from Kerala In thr presence tea estates hod beEr aftrcted and 3 57 lakh persuns of the representat~vesof Government of Kerala to have had been atlr.cterf 111 Gtrlarat thcrr were 74 tlrath!; a detalled dlscuss~onabout the questlon of sea.erosron and 3 226 person:, hxi t)tbcri ,~If~ctrdIn Jammu and and other areas of natural calarn~t~esI thmk that wlll Kashmlr- I db not have the clealh rcxord toirr lakh persr~ri!~ be helpful ~n having better understanding GIthe had been atfcctrrl Irt Knrriataka. ttlerc~were 1J deaths problems The people of Kerala have to be saved Rs 5 84 clort: wi,rtti 01 ~uopCrt~eshad been tliirnaged lmmedlately. the sea coast has to be protected In Kerala 3.100 hectares had been atlr~cled In rmmedrately. otherw~seIn every season hcactares of Matiarashtra there wcbrth34 deaths In Rapsthan ttwrt! land 1s bemg eroded ~n!o sea Th~s1s a very serlous werc 86 dcaths Rb 3110 !:rorC worth of propCrly had problem and we have 1~ take adhoc and long term been damaged arid ': 600 persons tiad been aflccted measures We have to take preveritlve steps InTamll Nadu there wthre 31 dcaths and 3.526 prrsori:. ~mmedlately had been allecled Iri lilpura, therc wt.rc srvrn deaths So. I urge upon the Government to have a very and 163 larnil~eshad bwri allectcd lr~Purljab ttrert! serlous view on th~s were 16 deaths and 4200 persons tlijd hecrr nltectcd In West Ber~yal.there werc:: 51 dealhs spec~allyIn North Bvngal and four Iakh pt~)plchad been aftected MA DEPUTY SPEAKER Ten more Members wrsh The rel~elwork by the Stirtc Government has lwen to speak on thls subject If each member concludes I~I gomg on pertcctly in all the States I am very much flve to seven mlnules. everyone can get a chance to thanklul to the State Government lor th~s speak 7 he Central Government had been klnd enough to react properly Irl tlme and had released already twc~ rnstalmenrs out of the Calamlty Rel~elFund to tho Slate PROF JITENDRA NATH GAS (Jalpaigur~) Thank But Srr lh~samc~unt 15 no1 adcquatc th~slund IS not you. Sir We are very much unfortunate that every year adequate lo meet the crlsls of I~IStype nl h~gh dur~ngth~s June-July Sessron we the Members of magn~tude So I request tho Governmsnt lo lncreasr Parhament have to discuss th~sISSU~. I e the floods Ihe amount in th~bregard so Ihat the State Government and drought Issue. You know the lloods and drought be able to meet the crlsrs easily D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 234

Prav~d~nyrel~ef to the vlct~ms15 not the only solullon area but w~llalso lac~lltate the hydel power The Goverrlmcnt should corne forward w~tha potential comprr!henslve programme and a schome to control The last suygest~onthat 1 would l~keto make IS that the lloocl dlsaster a M~rilstry~f Department must be created In the Central What is the stat~st~cs'Out of 40 mlll~orlhectares of Government and also In the State Governments for Ilood-prone area. as I have stated already, about 37 ~nvolvtngthemselves In an mtegrated dlsaster reduct~on milllon hectares have been taken to b~ flood protectwe management scheme on a continuous bas~sto deal This 1s due to the contlnuous efforts ol the Central and w~thall the aspects ol such nat~onalcalamlt~es the State Governments I would urge upon the DR JAYANTA RONGPI IAutonomous Dlstrlct. Government to go on w~thth~s effort so that the flood Assam) MI Deputy Speaker Slr I will be very br~efand protected area may he mcreased I shall riot repeat what many ot the hon Members have Since the natural d~sastcrcannot be protected fully. alrcady pir~r~tedout and wlth whlch I also associate the Government should rnake efforts towards myself strengthenlng, lmprovlng our capacity to corlfront the I have gone through the debates of the last few Lok dlsastrr assuring ol speedy rel~ef and restoration ot Sabhas namely the E~ghthNlnth and Tenth Lok Sabhas roads cnmmurl~catlon,power and ~rrlgnt~on,wthln the 1 have lound that In every monsoon season there IS shortest posslble time ~nvarlabtya dlscuss~onon flood and drought sltuatlon III th~sconnect~on I would l~keto draw thc attentlor1 We have been golng through almost a monotonous and ol tht? Govrrnment to the fact that durmy 1993 tloods. rout~ner~tual repeating ~t every year In JaIpa~y~u~West Bengal so many br~dgeson the When the flood comes the Mlnlsters hover around Natlonal H~ghwayNo.31 and the Nation Hlghway ~tsell In aeroplanes or helrcopters assessing floods The MPs had been damaged The construct~onof thcse br~dges shout for funds lor the~rrespective States and and repalring ol these roads are yet to be don@ My constituenc~esand the Mmister comes out w~ththe usual colleague. Shr~R B Roy, had vls~tedthe recently flood reply that they were walling for the memorandum from aflectcd area The br~dgesand the Road 41 had been the State Government Il the memorandum comes they damayed agaln and the lrrlgatlon svstem of the area would ylve the funds or he says that there IS a shortage had totally been aflected So. I urge upon the Central of funds Government to glve a specla1 notlce to thls by releasing adequate lunds to state so that all these mav be restored Thls r~tualhas been going on for the last so many at an early date There IS a National Adv~soryComm~ttee decades Therefore m) request IS tha 11 IS high and under tt~leadersh~p of the Minister of Agr~c~lltureof the long enough tlme ~ithfour Or flve decades already Central Government I do not know what th~sCommittee gone that we defin~telireviewed our flood and drought IS doing I would request the Government to look Into tackllng mechanlsm The flood and drought 11 so that the Committee may be more serlous management mechanlsm demands a very thorough revlen I would llke to table some suggest~onsIn this regard so that the llood and drought may be controlled Many of the hon Members haie already point out permanently. It IS essential to lnclease the share of the so many thlngs I also agree wlth maw ot the polnts Centre In the fund meant for the States There 1s a need that ther have ralsea I would ltke to sab that In our for an Indepth analys~sof natlonal efforts, there 1s a bast count14 b\e are faced v~lthfloodand also a drought need lor a thorough survey ol the alfected areas, therc s~tuation IS also a need to promote gieatet pubic awareness and to launch speclflc Inltlatlves, there IS a need to 18.00 hrs. have a comprehens~veplannlng ol flood control In the The need of the hour IS a verb sclentlf~c and lower Garrges and the Brahmaputra Basm and its comprehens~vemanagement ot our water resources execut~on,and there IS a need to draw up and ~mplernent We should go Into the depth ol the problem I urge a compreheliswe plan 01 actlon to mltlgale tlie eflsrts at upon the government that the) should revtek the~rown the national disaster mechanlsm of laclng thls slcuatlon I hope that they w~lt Such programmes have lo be taken up ~mmedlalelv go ~ntothe depth ot the problem lor deleating the spate ol rlvers and oceans because Mb advlce 1s . such advlces have come from other the depth ol rivers and oceans IS decreas~rig hon Members also . that many programmes and continuously due to slllatron of the land It IS also dec~slonsare pendlng and ther should take a dec~slon suggested to bu~ldup an adequate number 01 reservoirs on those issues like the l~nkageof the rlvers of Nonh on the rlvers llowlng out lrom Arunachal Pradesh to the lnd~aand South lndra One of the reasons tor floods 1s Brahmapulra. Th~swill not only control the llood ol the the massrve detorestal~onIn the upper stream ol the

D~scussron Under Rule 193 ASADHA 26, 1918 (Sakai D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 238 thls Issue does not end here. The hon. Mmister has by salan~tyor water logglng. The people *ho had been stated that 13 d~str~ctsand 11 thousand v~llagesand entrusted w~ththe responslblllty of runnlng the country one and a half crore people are affected by flood 641 by developmg a proper system after ~ndependence. persons and more than 13 thousand heads of cattle have made a mockery of the ent~resystem. B1g projects d~ed were planned In the name of development but these projects have marred the same development Sir, when Sir, through you. I would llke to ask the hon. Members the Bhakhara dam was under constructlon the whole of the House and the hori. Min~sterabout the questlon counlry was d~scussmgabout ~tslrrlgatlon as well as rased by Mr. Rongp~.The mountam range 01 B~har,U.P. and West Bengal are connected w~ththe H~malayas.I electrlclty generating capaclty but when the water level In 1988 Increased two metres, the water had to be had put a quest~onto the Mlnlstry of Env~ronmentand released under compuls~on.As a result thereof lorests, the rephes of whlch has since been rece~vedby Ludh~ana.Jalandhar and Ambala cit~eswere ~nundated. me. he questlon pertalns to 17th July. In the course of We had never dreamt of flood In Punlab. Even those. d~scuss~onon the sa~dquest~on I had pomted out that due to ~llegaltree fallmg In Nepal the catchment area who had constructed the Bhakhra dam, had never thought as to what would they do when the water level IS getting reduced and whenever there IS ram In the Increases. Thls havoc caused by tloods IS the result of hilly reylon floods occur In the low lymg areas of the lack of far s~ghtedness rlvers of B~har,U.P, and West Bengal. The flood waters carry large quantlt~esol sand and s~ltat~ontakes place I would hke to read out a statement of Shrr Sundar In these rlvcrs Lal Bahuguna wh~ch1s the bef~tt~ngremark on the entwe Thus the level of rlver water rlses I yet the answer system- to my yesterday's quest~on I have got a very old newspaper cllpplng In whlch the reply glven by former hon. Mlnlster Mr Kalpnath Ral to the questron rased by "Dam IS a short-term solution of a permanent Shr~mat~Kamala S~nhahas been publlsed. The questron problem and 11 constructed, b~gdams w~ll was related to R~harHe adm~ttedthat due to con!lnuous stand as monuments of stup~d~tyol 20th fallmg of trees on In the h~llyareas of B~haradjomng Century.' Nepal quantum of slltatlon IS more In B~har.As such the fury 01 flood IS more severe In the border areas of B~har and U P But the Central Government In its answer to Mr Speaker, Slr, thrs subject IS Important In ltselt. It the second quest~onstated that no such s~ltat~onhas ~nd~catesthe flood, the exploltat~onof the envlronment taken place In R~harand Uttar Pradesh I would lrke to and a mockery I am not grvlng lecture on the know from the Government as to what type of envlronment. I would l~kea balanced Integrated understandmg has been made to run the country One programme to be chalked out In thls regard, so that the year they say that slltat~on has taken place and the equlhbr~umIn nature could be restabllshed whlch has other year In reply to the questlon of hon Member they been destroyed lor the last 50 years Earlrer the M~n~stry say that there IS no such SlltatlOn. of Water Resources used to be known as the Mln~stry of lrr~gat~onSir. ~t IS a mockery ol a country w~thso Mr Deputy Speaker. Srr, ecological balance IS belng many rlvers. In whlch one par7 experiences the flood d~sturbedfor the last 50 years In As~ancountrles the and the other part suffers the drought The Mlnlstry of quantum of s~llat~onIS 30 times more than those In Water Resources has emerged as the Mlnlstry of Water European countrles It IS because of falllng of trees In calam~tyIn the entire country We would have to cons~der h~llyreglons and other areas 1s golng on continuously as to where Government has been at fault In thls regard on for the last 50 years and the s~ltat~on~siap~dly We talk of the famlne The famlne and the ram are lncrcaslng That 1s why severe~floodslluat~on has been mterlrnked somewhere For the balanced envlronment. created throughout the country. there should be 32 per cent forest area on the earth but Mr Deputy Speaker. Slr. the whole country IS at present there IS only 12 to 14 per cent forest area In proceedmg on the path of development Construct~on lndla whereas ~t IS 12 to 13 per cent as per the report work of b~glakes and dams IS golng on with the ot the Natronal Remote Sensmg The quantum of rutall construct~onof lakes the contours ol lnd~anGeography falls down In the area where the number of trees WIN IS gettmg disturbed Thls d~sturbsthe natural pace of be less. Today. the level of ground water IS decreasmg waler loakage It IS causing a lot ol problems. The old I would hke to explaln lt wlth an example Hon Member .people dealmg w~ththe lrrlgallon have not given due of Parllament Shrl N~t~shKumar represents Nalanda rmportance to the envlronment and dramage system. At Parl~amentaryConstituency where the level of ground present, there IS 7 mllllon hectare Irrigated land In the water has come down to an alarrnmg pow Though country and out ol that 2 million hectare land IS affected development took place but the lube wells were $01 up 239 D~sruss~onUnder Rule 193 JULY 17. 1996 Dlscuss~on Under Rule 193 240

In an unsc~ent~ficway resultmg In decrease in the ground SHRl OSCAR FERNANDES (Udupi) . Mr. Cha~rrnan. . water level. If thls decrease continues, one day that Slr. he 1s maklng good polnts. He should be allowed to area w~llautomat~cally become a dry area. We w~ll speak for some more tlme have to set up a sequence between Sc~enceand env~ronmentat some point otherw~sewe would be bound to spend thousands of crores of rupees In place of Rs. SHRl RAJlV PRATAP RUDY : Mr. Deputy Chairman. 700 crore on preventlve measures Even atter such a Sir, th~sdeclslon was taken in a conference on flood long time of independence, we could not solve th~s control held In South In 1971 At that time the subjects problem and ~t seems that we w~llremain entangled In of Environment were not so ~mportant.It was discussed the same eproblem In future as to how the flood could be controlled but the envlronrnent was not taken mto cohs~derat~onNat~onal Mr. Deputy Speaker. Sir. lour lakh tonnes of Flood Commiss~onwas set up In 1991. Unfortunately. polythene bags are bang dumped in our country whlle when I went through the report. I found that 11 also ~tIS out ol use In other coimtrles but we are uslng I! and contamed only llood control measures as to how the throw~ngaway the used one on the ground. The water. protection frcm the flood can be made effect~ve,llood absorbmg capacity of the earth IS decreas~ngdue to 11 warnlng can be made but thls aspect could not be It IS a Sc~entil~csubject In Itself The Government should assoc~atedw~th the envlronrnent for the last thlrty years pay ~tsattent~on as to why the water level IS decreas~ng I would lke to ask the hon M~n~sterwho h~msellhalls and also to the drought cond~t~ons? Sc~ence (Englrsh) trom B~harto prov~deB~har Rs 700 crore or Rs. 7000 has to be Integrated w~thdevelopment (Translatron) crore for th~spurpose I do not know as to how much We have to thlnk over 11 I would llke to present before money w~llthe Central Government prov~debut Ehhar you some data to prove as to how the developmerltal Government was also to glve 25 per cent of the total works done dur~ngthe last 50 years have generated amount. It had ne~therfunds w~th~t, nor has ever been problems. In 1953. the flood aflected area was 22 lakh In a posltlon to prov~dethe funds. But if Bihar has to be hectare wh~chmcreased to 90 lakh hectare In 1996 saved from the devastat~onof the flood. the people of L~kew~se,the number of flood affected people was two B~harare to be helped and 11 you have sympathy for the crore and forty-two lakh In the year 1953 which people of B~har,any such programme should be Increased to the 4 crore and 83 lakh In 1996. In the prepared by wh~chthe hon. Mln~ster,Instead ol prov~d~ng same way, the death rate was 42 per annurn whlch has money to the Government of B~har.should ln~t~atethe now Increased up to 2000 per annum Llkewlse, the rebel work at hts own loss of property was Rs.60 crore whlch has Increased to Rs 2000 crore In 1995 I would l~keto ask the I. once again, urge upon the Government to take th~smatter ser~ouslyand announce the natlonal flood Government as to how has 11 f~xedRs. 700 crore for pol~cyby establ~sh~nga proper coord~nat~on.The natural calam1t1es7On what bas~s~t has been f1xed7 You know that Rs 2000 crore have been prov~dedfor subjects connected w~ththe envlronrnent should also be covered thls purpose In your report then how far Rs. 700 crore wdl sufflce? You have spent Rs. 30 thousand crore on MR. DEPUTY SPEAKER Shrl Subbaram1 Reddy the flood and natural calam~t~esdurmg the last 50 SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV (Patna) . You d~dnot years lnvlte any hon. Member from the Janata Dal

Sir. In the end. I would hke to state that the drought MR DEPUTY SPEAKER The next speaker IS from prevent~onand llood rehef IS not a solullon In ~tsell.We the Janata Dal. w~llhave tcj thlnk over ~t and the hon. Mlnlster w~llhave SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV . You d~dnot glve t~me to pay hls attention towards this problem We will have to any Member from our party. Our party has been to consult the Mlnlstry of Irrlgat~on.The departments of alloted much time. envlronrnent and Sc~enceand technology have made much progress. In these circumstances. the work cannot MA DEPUTY SPEAKER : Your party has sent the be done solely. I have the report In whlch 11 has been names of the Speakers very late. stated that Nat~onalFlood Commlsslon had made ~ts recommendat~ons. [Englrsh] [Englrs h] DR. T SUBBARAMI REDDY (V~sakhapatnam) Mr. SHRl XAVIER ARAKAL (Ernakulam) : Mr. Cha~rman. Deputy-Speaker. Sir. 1111 now a number of hon Members Slr. he 1s takmg too much tlme. The Chaw has dec~ded belongmg to varlous parts of the country and belongmg to give lwe mlnutes only to each hon. Member. to varlous pollt~calparties have been speaking. So many MR DEPUTY SPEAKER It seems that I have to be Members have been talkmg unan~mouslythat our country more str~ctnow Mr Rud~,please conclude now has been suflerlng trom the devastat~onof floods and 24 1 Discuss~onUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 76. 1918 (Sakar Lhsc~~ss~onUnder Rule 193 242

cyclones every year and that what 1s the solutlon and I wd naturally say that my State. Andhra Pradesh. IS salvation lor th~snatlon I do riot want to repeat that. We sufferlng It IS next to Assam Andhra Pradesh has been do know that thousands 01 people have been dyrng hrt on one s~deby South-East monsoon and. on the every year and properties worth thousands and crores other s~de.the South-West monsoon. In fact, devastations ol rupees are washed every year due to floods, Th~s have taken place Last October, lakhs 01 acres have devastatron IS yolng on for the last so many years We been washed away Hundreds of people dled. The same have got only one Mlnlstar. hon Mlnlster of Agriculture devastat~onrepeated ltsalf In June I1 you take the hldory present Str~ctlyspeaking. th~ssubject 1s so Important ot Andhra Pradesh for the last 25 years. In every year. lor the natron that majorlty of the Cab~netmust bc malorlly ol dlstrrcts have been h~tby floods and cyclones present and should hear what IS bemg spoken. We get tears of sympathy to thrnk how poor people have beer1 thrown out wtthou! accommondatlon /Trarrslation)

What wc are talklng about IS not useless They do not have anythrng to eat or drlnk and (Engrrsti/ accommodat~onto lwe In and the extreme sorrow we I Evervbocly lrrespect~veof pul~t~calaff~l~at~ons- IS lee1 at the11sad plight. need not be expressed In words talking w~lhone volce how to prevent the floods and how to control the cyclones It IS everybody's concerrl and anx~ety ~ln!crruj)l~onsJ Theretore my humble request IS, besldes merely speakrng under Rule 193. let us take a determmed /Translation) dcc~s~onthat the Government must ylve top mosl pr~orlty > It 1s not the department 01 lust one hon. Mm~slerbut lo th~sproblem Money IS avadable of sevcral hon. M~r~lstersI! 1s a very important sublecl

(Erigl~sh] I would like to dlsclose a secret wh~chno other Therefore, my request IS that the Government must speaker has done so far have dcterrnlnat~on,the Government must have devolm and the Government must have concentrat~onto solve this problem Thc World Bank will glvf the money I w~lltell you huw ~t w~llglve money When Dr Chenna Reddy who was the Chef Mm~sterof Andhra Pradesh and who 1s Mak~ng hear~rigor wrrtlng speeches arid hav~rig now thr Cicvernor of Tam11 Nadu, happended to go to dela~lsot 11 the next day 1s ul no use the I!n~trdStates for some treatment he met the World Ranh Vlce.Presdenl and lnsp~redhlm and got thousands of clores of rupees lor the cyclone affected areas of Andhra F'radesti In n~net~esTherefore, now the . I would say noth~ny1s ~mpossrble11 money IS tti~re We can solve th~sproblem by uslng turids. Ttierc arc so Govcrriment ol lnd~amust take up ~~ththe World Bank AD8 and all other lnstltutlons and get funds and make many schpmcs Soniebodv IS asklny for canal and thls country more prosperous Poor people should not sc~nicbody IS asklng fo~the lrnkagc of Ganya and Cauvery F~arlklyspeaking wc riecd money So. when be allowed to d~el~ke this It IS a great opportun~ty we are grvrny the Rudgrt for us to approach the World Bank and other rnst~lutlons The hands 01 the hon Mrnlster of Agr~cultureand We g~veprelcr'erw to other scheme but toryet the ot the Mlnlsler ot Weltare must be strengthened Soc~al flood control welfare means not only the development of sports but also vouth aflarrs and welfare of woman and chtldren [English] Therefole. I appeal lo the Government and part~cularlyto the Pr~nieMlnlstel that they must g~vctop Attention should be pald Cln every one's welfare pr~or~tyto th~ssubject arid while preparing the Budget and not onlv on the welfare 01 youth sports. ladles or some money should be provrded lor undertah~ng men You should provlde more powers. more secretarres permanent measures fo~controllmy floods and cyclonrs and more money I hope every Member accepts th~sand 11 must hc supported III one volce There should be no d~scr~mlnat~onbetween one We hope that the Government will be lnsplred and State and another 01 course, as tar as I am concerned st~mulatedand they wdl take a slerlmg decwon to solve 243 D~scuss~onUnder Rule 193 JULY 17, 1996 Discussion Under Rule 193 244

this problem permanently. We are going to enter into The Comm~tteeon National calamity fund had the 21st century just In a few years. We can tell the sanctioned Rs. 29 crore for relief works in 1995-96 but world that lnd~aIS a great country which has taken such if has not been released so far. I urge upon the Central permanent measures to solve the problem of floods Government to release this fund immediately. and cyclones. You must see that the lives of poor people Mr. Deputy Speaker. Slr, Rs. 49 crore had been are saved. . sanct~onedto B~harfor rel~efworks and to face the I once again hope that the Government will give natural calamities. I demand that this amount should be topmost pr~orityto solve this problem. Increased to Rs 100 crore.

[Transla bon] lnsuff~cient funds have been provided to Andhra DR. ARUN KUMAR SARMA (Lakhlmpur) , Mr. Pradesh. Deputy-Speaker. Sir. ~tIS my maiden speech. So, please bear w~thme for my presentation. [Englrsh] Sir. we have already discussed th~smatter for nearly The State of Andhra Pradesh sustained a loss of two hours. It has been felt by most of the hon. Members Rs. 200 crore due to floods and cyclones in June and that even after fltty years of our Independence, we are only Rs. 43 crore 1s given by the Central Government talkmg in terms of only certaln temporary measures for I request that much more money should be glven to the solut~onof the flood problem now being faced by Andhra Pradesh. The support should be given not only the d~fterentStates of thls country. Before twenty years, to Andhra Pradesh but also to Assam flood was a problem for the States of Assam. West Bcngal. B~harand some parts of South India only But, The State of Andhra Pradesh sustamed a loss of after a lapse of t~me,when the desert area of Rajasthan Rs. 600 crore last October due to floods. The Ceritral has become flood-prone. lt has drawn the attention of Government sanct~onedonly Rs. 83 crore. We have to the entlre country. Now, almost the ent~recountry has do with it. been suffermg from thls problem. There IS the possib~l~ty [Translatron] that the problem will come and go. But ~t 1s very hard that we could fmd a solullon wrth the exlstlng pattern of B~harhas also been provlded w~th~nsuff~c~ent Democracy. I must jushfy myself In saylng th~sand draw funds. the attent~onof the House that the Central Government IS always hav~ngan escapist attltude wh~lesuch [Englrsh! problem arlses In any State of thls country. The Central I once agam thank you very much. Government says that ~t is the l~ab~l~ty01 the State Government to look after the rehe1 and rehabll~tat~on [Translation] work SHRl ANlL KUMAR YADAV (Khagar~ya) Mr Deputy I w~llnow clte an example Wh~lethere was the six Speaker. Sir. You have prov~dedme an opportunity to year foreigners' movement in Assam there was a feeling del~vermy ma~denspeech I express my gratitude and thal the property. the assets of Assam were the assets want to say that the Parhamentary const~tuencywhlch of the country but the problem of Assam was not the I represent is a flood prone area though the north B~har problem 01 the country. Slmllarly, now every State has IS the most flood affected area of the country. B~har been compelled to do the rehef and rehablhtat~onwork suffers every year 40 percent of the total devastat~onof by rtself and the grants to the States are glven as loan flood In the whole country because the north B~harIS mostly devasted by the rivers flowmg from Nepal like Accord~ngto the Central Government. 11 IS not the respons~blhtyof the Central Government to manage the Gandak, Bagmati, Kosl. Kamala etc. Besides Ganga. affected people, the flood damages or any other Sone and Punpun rivers also cause serious floods whlch damages the crops of the farmers, the houses of the damages caused by the natural calamities, That IS why, poor, roads and cla~msllves and l~vestockevery year. some of the hon. Members have rased thls po~nt.Of The flood in the last year cla~med70 llves In Banka and course. the Finance Commission has formulated certain Bhagalpur. The flood In Ganga, Bagmat1 and Kos~revers norms how the States w~llbe provided with money. It IS In my Parliamentary constituency 1s causing soil eroslon. glven as advance There IS a definit amount like Rs. 20 The so11 erosion in Koragaon in Khagarlya and In crore or Rs. 30 crore glven as per the populat~onof the villages In Parwatshah has taken an alarmlng shape. State It 1s a flxed amount. But with that meagre amount, no permanent solullon can be found to the flood problem I, therefore, urge upon the Central Government to in any of the State. That IS why, wlth the ex~stingpattern sign a treaty with Nepal for flood control and take upon or Democracy, we do not believe that there can be any itself ful! responsibility of it. permanent solulion So, I must emphasise thal there 245 D~scuss~onhder Rule 193

should be proper review of the Centre-State relat~ons. economy sutfers. These are the reasons as to why the If the problems are to be tackled by the State State of Assam has been taclng a lot of economlc Government, the States should be given more autonomy problem. The Insurgency problem IS also comlng for resource mobil~sat~onso that can solve their because the ent~reeconomy IS at stake. Now, therefore. problems by themselves. If necessary, the State these outlawed orglnlsatlons have thought that if they Governments wdl have some fore~gncollaboration to are w~thinIndia. there IS no solution to the problem. For brmg money. For example. In Assam, the Brahma~utra any such problem, negotlat~onshave taken place. Board was constltuted by an Act of Parhament In 1981 accords are signed but afterwards these problems are which IS just an eye-wash to the people not solved. Likewise, the Brahmaputra Board was Slnce then, at least ten ~nvest~gat~onwork on ten constituted whrch was an eye-wash to the people of rlvers was done by lnvestmg at least Rs. 300 crore. But Assam. That Board was constituted under an Act of not a smgle project has been Implemented ttll today. Parhament. But nothing was done. Whenever there IS The magn~tudeof the flood problem In the entlre country any problem, say, the Cauvery R~veror the Narmada R~verproblem, some committees are constltuted but IS golng h~ghand h~ghevery day. The rlver bed has been rlslng day by day because of the s~ltmater~al there will not be any solution. Thls p~ecemealbustness carr~edfrom the catchment area Due to deforestation. IS making the country suffer lo a great extent. Now 11we s~ltmater~als are accumulated on the rlver beds and the allow further time w~thouttaking any concrete measures. rlver beds are rlslng day by day In 1985, on certam I thlnk. thls country's ~ntegr~tywill not be there. I urge polnts the lavel of rlver Brahmaputra In Assam was upon the hon. Mlnlster and also the Members of the compared to the level that preva~ledIn 1952. In 1985, House to take a serlous vlew on th~smatter so that the the level of the rlver beds came up to f~vemetres from problems of flood and other natural calam~ttescan be dealt wtth. ' the depth that was In 1952. Now In certain areas. the rlver bed of Brahmaputra IS equal to the ground 'level I have a suggestton. I wan1 to draw the attention of of the other areas. So, dehn~telythere IS no rlver at all the House and also the hon. Mln~sterfor Agriculture to There IS a b~garea where the rlver flows In dtfferent the fact that the Unlted Natrons General Assembly d~rect~ons.Th~s IS the phenomenon In all the rivers ol proclaimed that the decade start~ngfrom 1990 is the Assam because the rlvers In Assam start from the Decade for Natural D~sasterReduct~on to reduce through ne~ghbourtnghilly areas They bung a lot of s~ltmaterial concerted mternat~onalactlons the loss of life, damage whlch gets accumulated So, the magn~tudeof flood to property and soc~aland economlc d~srupt~onIn the has been golng h~ghand high each tlme after 1952. world, espec~allyIn the developing countries. Probably Thts flood IS of the highest magnttude after 1962 There the hon. M~ntsterfor Agrlculture would be able to IS no rlver whose water IS not comlng from the h~lly enlighten us about the steps taken In thls regard. Since areas thus washmg away the entlre area The number the ~nternat~onalorgan~sat~on IS comlng forward, we ol embankments whlch were constructed on the rivers must explore the poss~bil~tyof brmgmg some funds to Brahmaputra, Subansar~and Barak stnce 1952, all have correct the ecolog~cal Imbalance through devastat~on slnce been washed away and almost all the area has caused by floods and for the rehabllltatlon of the aflacted been Inundated, even the town area. In my constltuency. people. 90 there are nlne leglslatwe assembly segments where Lastly I want to draw the attention of the hon per cent ol the area IS submarged The greatest rlver Mtn~sierfor Agr~cultureto the tact that In my constltuency. Island of the world IS s~tuatedIn my constltuency whlch seven sub dlvlslons namely Dhakua Khana. Dhemap, IS called Majull. Two-th~rdsof that lsland are already Lakh~mpur.Jonal. Sadla. Majoh. Chabua (D~brugarh) washed away and only one-third 01 that island ~t left. and parts of Arunachal Pradesh, are under water and Whtle the rlver beds rlse, eroslon IS caused to the most of the places are cut off lrom the rest of the country netghbourmg areas. Thereby. In Assam. 40 per cent of for the last 20 days. The road communlcatlon In most the total cult~vablearea under the tea gardens and out of these parts has also been affected, There IS hardly ol the remalnlng area. 80 per cent is a flood-prone any space even for the purpose of opening rehef camps area. Now every year because ot the devastating floods, because the entlre area IS Inundated. In such a sltuatlon the culttvable area IS always inundated. Thus peasants the Government of lnd~ashould take appropriate steps cannot go tor cult~vat~on,durmg statement for mstorlng the road communlcatlon and for provldmg The flood sttual~onIn Assam IS d~fterentfrom the rehe! and rehablhtat~onon a war footlng llood s~tuat~onprevailmg In other States hke Utter Wlth these remarks. I conclude my speech pradesh. Rajasthan or Punjab It IS a recurring phenomenon. In one year, we have a mlnlmurn of flve SHRl N.K PREMCHANDRAN (Qu~lont Mr Deputy and the maxlmum of 15 floods. So from the month of Speaker Slr. I am not taklng much ttme 01 the House April till the end of October flood IS there. Culhvators because almost all the hon Members have already cannot go tor ralslng the11 crops. Ultimately, the entlre desnbed the flood sltuatlon. The natural calamltles and 247 Drscrrss~onUnder Rule 193

the safety measures to be taken. I am just here to Thls IS a vdlage havlng 30,000 strong populntlon. One supplement and support the hon. Members who have k~lometreof the sea shore has already bcen grabbed already descr~bedthe flood sltuatlon In Kerala. by the sea One temple has bcen lost: one school has been lost If lhls trend conllnues. if 11 IS not prevented It IS well known lo us that the flood and the droughl and the sea shore IS not protected. ~t IS sure lhat the In earher years were lnc~dentalones Once In two three , entlre pancheyat would go Into the sea or flve years they used to occur But now the natural calamlty has become a regular leature In our country, The next area whch would be aflected IS Ihe So th~sHouse has to cons~derhow 11 can be prevented Nat~onalH~ghway 47 NH-47 vii~i~ldbe allected because In a permanent way, what are the safety measures to be the gap between the sea arid the backwater IS lust 100 taken to prevent 11 permanently metres Now, lo protect thr seashore IS the rnatrl problem wh~chhas to be corrsldclcd I hope that the Thls can be classlt~edIn two ways. tlrstly tti~natural Mlnlstrv of Waler Resa~lrces In consullal~onw~th the calamlt~eswhlch can be prevented by human bangs M~n~strvof Agriculture would plari certaln schemes and whlch are In our control. and secondlv those r~h~ch we hope that the pec~pie01 Kelala would prepare some cannot be prevented, tor example. cyclones In such a schemes and those schcrnt:~would be subrriltted bcloro case we can only take welfare measures and some the Government ut lnd~aMy humble submlsslon to the rehefs can be glven. In the case of those whlch can be hon M~n~ster1s to !;\he riecessnrv steps, approve the prevented the matn thlng whch I would h~ghl~ghtbetol~ schemes and rnsi.;ic that frn~nc~alass~slance IS glven thls House IS specially In regard to the Stale 01 Kerala to p~otrclthr scashule ol Krrala The problems caused due to sea eroslon In mr State have already been subm~ttedbefore this House Sca Another sut?rnls~.~on'31 nurip IS that rcllel measures eroslon 1s a grave problem In Kerala The cari3iny of whtch hake iilrec~ci\Lwcn I~Ieustcmc the norms whlctr sea shores from Tr~vandrumto Kasaryod IS tak~ngthe tlavp bcw acrcylrd tly ttir Gavernmcnt and also bv , hfe and property of several persons Even schools and lhr F!n;inc~. C:!~f?irni~~.~dr~r;ti:)uld bc revlcwt'd and temples have been taken by the sea erosion A cruel adequatc -,ornpwisali:~r- t,tiould br qven damage has been caused to the State of Kerala bv the sea eroslon My subm~ss~onIS. 11 1s a natlonal boundarv In the State I thlnk that ~t IS the bounden dulv of the Central Government to protect the nat~onalboc~ndarv S~ncesea shore ts a nat~onalboundarv I! is the bounden duty of the Government of lndra to prolet! thrs natlonal boundary Urgennl measures have to :IF Iakpri to protec! the sea shore The only pcrmanenl rrlc.nwre ~vhlchcan be taken IS lo construct sea i~all%ilrw to regularly marntaln them

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VJe have got several experlenccs T,,enfy fears back sea v~allsRere ronstructed OIJ~no ma~n!rdrian~e nas beeri made and nothing has been done Tf~e.r.!ore r~ysuhmlss~on 1s only by consfructlrlg rtsrrriaric.~:! .valls and by regularly malntalninq It~cm,&c- I)rr.,,i.r~l sea erosrrin arid the damage caused due :c sea I:~!JSKJ~I As reyards the reiref measures :,h~r.t~ ha.? tie1.r' takw 11 tias already been subrn~lledhere 1581 lhc, are der, mcagre mi! are not adequate Aviard ol Rs 5' YJ~, :o ;he famil!y 3f a dead persori who wits tnt. brrfild. wnner of the entlre lamlly IS no! sutt~s~entnovd.a.days So the ~roposal6' enhanc~nyrellef mr.as,~re~also may be !arrpt Inlo acLour11

As i hart already submitted rrl nlj c(inc,t~l~~cnc.y thqre ts a Gram panchayar There 16 a slr~p~f larld whrch fs a stra~yhtroad runnlng 16 clyhlcen k~l!in~elrf:s It IS In a ~lllagecallbu Alappad Un the woslcrn srJe thele IS sea and Qn !he eastern slde lhere 15 backwater 249 D~scuss~orrUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26 1918 ~Siika) D~scusson Under Rule 193 250

means thal the cnler~aof compensallon bemg prov~ded MR CHAIRMAN . I have not tasted the salt to the fam~lyof a deceased IS different I e 11 a person ment~onedby you has lost his Me In a ra~lacc~dent or In an alr crash the SHRl GlRDHARl LAL BHARGAVA You have tasted lamlly of the deceased gets d~fferentamount as It 1s Sambhar salt whlch 15 supplled to your kltchen Our cornpensallon The cr~ter~aof provldmg compensatlon hon. Mlnister and the members of the Cabmet, all are to the fam~lyof a person kllled In r~otsIS d~fferent.The using Ihe same salt Unfortunately. 25 thousand vlllages lamdy of each Innocent people who lost the~rhves came In the grlp of lamme. last year. Ent~reamount of should be given Rs 2 lakh as compensatlon and the~r Rs. 300 crore w~ththe Slate Government was spent and dependent should be given lobs. I demand ~t from the Government of lnd~aspec~ally the hon Pr~meM~n~ster not a smgle palsa was left In the Calamlly Rehef Fund. 15 who IS not present In the House today The day when What I mean lo say that we d~dnot get the funds we the amount of compensatlon was announced to be Rs. needed. l~ftythousand I felt very sorry thal the cost of human Me Lastly the last year. Hanumangarh. Alwar and 1s merely Rs fifty thousand If anybody 1s ready to d~e Bhartpur were affected by lamme as well as by the for Rs f~ftythousand then I shall glve h~mRs fifty orre flood The Government of Rajasthan had demanded Rs thousand I lntcrruptrons\ 365 crore from the Un~onGovernment but the State MR CHAIRMAN I! 1s not by way of ~ncent~ve Government was provlded Rs. 21 crore and thal too was not made ava~lablelo ~t I am aware 01 the scarclty i lnterruphonsi of t~meas well as your d~ff~cult~esAlwar. Bharatpur. SHRl GlRDHARl LA1 BHARGAVA Publlc property Jodhpur. Nagpur, and Jalsalmer all are affected. Moll and prlvale property as well as the drlnkmg water supply ]heel IS also affecled. The State Government has made system have been damaged there ~lnlernrpt~ons, a further demand of Rs 300 crore The State ' 1 MR CHAIRMAN Bhargava 11 although you speak Government needs Rs 100 crore urgently and the In br~efst111 try to speak In very br~efso that every one remalnlng Rs 200 crore after some tlme It had r:ould get a chance to speak. demanded Rs 365 crore earlrer out of whlch As. 21 crore were to be prov~dedbut thls amount also could SHHl GIROHARI LAL BHARGAVA I would no* not be made ava~lableTherefore the State Sovernment corm 10 the sal~ent features only In Ja~salmer 219 W~llagesillid 10 815 houses have been damaged and should be provlded Rs 300 crore-the balance of last 143 i~~wstockhave lost lhe~rllves In thls way hevdards year. Rs. 100 crore ~mmed~atelyand Rs 200 crore after In blkanclr 16 vrards In Naukha and 110 v~llages of 4-5 days It should not be prov~dedonly Rs 21 crore Rlberwt finve sufferred damage The crop as \wll as but Rs 365 crore tor the damage caused by the flood 5253 houses have been damaged besldes the loss of In Hanumangarh Bharatpur and Alwar Ratasthan has I~vt?~t[jCkarid three l~ves In !he same way In Najaur been aftected by the flood twlce It was mundated last 1tiO ~~~llagesand 10 thousand houses ;wle damaged year too and the property ~rorthRs 365 crore was and 25 pcrscri?, lost the~rl~ves In Jodhpur 2000 damaged and thls year also 11 has heen aftecled by the l~vestock and 2 pcrsons lost the~rl~ves t~es~des !,$ tlood and the water from the other States has entered L thousi~t~dtiot~sc!, \r.ertl damaged In Alaar hh~chcomes my State In eastcrr~Halilsttlari wti~ih1s never allecled Dv tlood Our Stale has suftered loss both by (he flood as 16R ~~llaglbst~.lbe been affected 3000 houses habe brell as by fam~ne fiatasthan 1s a desefl area and 1)c~t~r.rilan~iiged and 15 people havt; i3st the11 I~vrs therefore, the people ot desert should get more money E\wi tcldav thtb s~t\lal~onof At~ar 1s grave In Rharatprr , Therefore Sir vou are presldtng !he House the hon , ..IF v~llagrshave been darnaged bv the fio~d Agr~cultureM~n~sler . Mlshral~ 1s a very good man verb I ll~ttvlu~~!l~~l1sl k~ndand w~ll30 many good th~ngs I would like lo MH C.tiAIHMAN Please comc for%ard to glbr request tilm to provlde the State Rs 365 crore Instead suggt?sr~uns of Rs 21 crow as a balance of last vear and th~syear StiRI CilRDHAHl LAL RHARGAVA I am ]us! conrlng Rs 30C c.lorcl out of ~rh1c.h Rs 10C crore ~mmed~ately to that polnl 35 thousand houses have been atfcctecl I l!?~:~rf~p!lpr~~, 34 ycople lost ttie~r hvcs In Bharatpur \/fltP'VFh'~llS~ h4R CHAIRMAN The tunas shou\d be prov~dedto Ttie ,~aterflown down lrorn Agra Mathura arid Harvmil vou or to Rqastharl7 tias ~nundalodBt~aratpu~ S~mllarly damiigc has hern SHRl GIRDHAHI !1 should be caused In Nagpul also Unfortunately thc Sanibtrar lake 141 RHARGAV4 the sourc~of salt has been illled w~lh!he ram wMer as provlded tc my Ramslhan 1 ha\e Deer1 deprtvea of a frsult 15 thousand workers have bee11 rcndercd &hat I *as la gel and sth~rnave snatched share anc' lobless Yo11 wdl riot be able lo get salt Olhcl people have m~sapproprlaled 11 and nos ther hare chanjlcc; w~llhave lo tiike saltless diet the blood pressure pallents over lo slue and are plavlng a drama You know all th~s do Once you had been slttlng wllh them ana had beer

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proposed that ~tshould be taken up discuss~on.So you Sir. Shr~Rajw Gandhl had talks wlth the Government should confine your speech a I~ttle,though your speech of Nepal 2.3 ttmes and as also the successive Shrl is very good. V~shwanath Pratap Smgh. Shrr Chandra Shekhar and our own prevlous Government also had talks w~thNepal. SHRl KALPNATH RAI : Th~sIssue IS connected wlth If the Government of Nepal and that of our country slgn the water issue. The factor of non-utll~sat~onof water IS also one of the factors for the destruction takmg place an agreement and we can utilise the~rwater then we In B~har.The entlre area ot B~harIS affected by flood. can generate the cheapest power In the world at the They are not gettmg any electr~c~ty. rate of 15 palse per unlt and save halt of lnd~afrom flood and can produce so much grain In the whole In 1989 Shri Raj~vGandh~ told. 'we do not have North Indla, cow belt, the most fertile reglon. the golden resources to generate 40000 M W power therefore we land B~har,UP and North lnd~athrough canal system have hxed our target at 38000 M W.' In the year 1989 that we can teed the whole of lnd~aand the electr~city the next Government came to power and d~dnot go In generated can be supphed to the whole country at the for any flve Year Phis In 1991, yet another Government cheapest rate and we can ach~evethe target of 5. 6 and came to power. They told that though the target was 8 per cent of Nat~onalgrowth. The Agr~cultureMmster llxod at 38000 M W, but the present need IS to generate should bear thls In m~ndwhde reply~ng In the words of 56000 M W power but due to shortage of lunds. only Mahatma Gandhy th~sIS the country .ol v~llagesand 32000 M W can be generated agalnst tho target of farmers and Gandh~11, look~ngat lnd~as v~llagesused 38000 M W. Currently the E~ghthFlve Year Plan IS on to say that sclence and technology should be lnlroduced And. Santosh Mohan 11. even against th~slruncated and utll~sedkeeplng the human belngs In rnmd target of 32000 M W , not even 15000 M W. power has , been generated so tar Only 14700 M,W power could .. be generated (Inlerrupt~ons)Please Isten to me No Sc~enceand technology IS for man and man IS other Mmster In India has done as much I have done hvmg In v~llages I don't want be get into any controversy, nor talk ot any party. I only want to subm~tthat In our country one lakh M W, power can be generaled through hydro by If we want lo establish the Swaraj of the dreams of harnessmg floods and energy together All rlvers flowmg Mahatama Gandhi In those v~llagesthen some concrete from H~malayashke rapt^. Boodh~Gandak. Ghaghara. steps wdl have to be taken to rid us from such floods and all other b~grlvers play havoc In B~har.These rivers can be utll~sedto generate hydro-electrc power which It IS good that he 1s now Agr~cultureM~nlster and he has is the cheapest all over the world as also pollut~onfree. been crltlcltlng us throughout hls llfe But now you can at least call an all party meet~ngand have the~roplnlon If that power IS explo~ted.by constructmg punch ash war^ dam. like Bhakra dam, on rlver Sharda. Bhalu dam on of all the~rhonourable Me.,lbers In th~sregard Karnal~rlver flowmg from Nepal and from rlver Saryu As these people have to face varlous problems and Ghaghra then 10.000 M W. power only from Karnal~. they wll have to face the wrath of thew electorate when 3000 M.W. power lrom Panchashwar~ and 3000 M.W they approach them. .(lnterrup!fonsl trom Gandak and about 50000 M W. power can be MR. CHAIRMAN . Please conclude now that you generated from all the rlvers flowlng through B~har have covered everythmg. Hydro-electr~cpower IS the cheapest the world over SHRl KALPNATH RAI Please call a meetmg ol all SII. whenever we take up the Issue, they propose the b~gexperts. technocrats. bureaucrats, agriculture to prov~defunds lor the thermal and not the hydro. experts or the people belongmg to all part~esand having sector for whlch they say ;hey have no prlorlty. It we use knowledge In the held and take concrete steps In regard hydro power and ut~llscwater lor power generat~on to floods SO that we can save the country trom floods then we can, on the one hand, solve Ihe problem ot and help the nat~onmarch torwarr' lrrigatlon and on the other can have sutflc~entelectrlclty In our country. Our country wdl also be free of lloods 19.11 hrs. and we can arrange water In case of drought I want to urge only this because there 1s shortage ol tlme and I (Shr~Ch~lta Basu rn the Charrl would hke lo urge upon the Agriculture Mlnrster only thls that as he belongs to B~harand has been elected from Madhubanr, to please v~sitthe reglon Iron1 SHRl RAMESH CHENNITHALA (Kottavam) Sir Madhuban~lo Klshanganl on the border ol Bengal and Kalpnathjl has rlghtly polnted out that every year we Panchashwar on the border ol Nepal where you WIN are dlscusslng about flood and drought It becomes lind that God has grven water In such abundance w~ch customary lor the Parl~amentlo have a d~scuss~onor1 can be utllrsed lo our great advantage flood and drought Every hme the Mlnlster glves reply 255 D~scuss~onUndnr Rule 193 JULY 17. 1996 Discussron Under Rule 193 256

at the end but the matter ends there ltsell Nothmg North-East and some other areas contlnue lo be affected happens afterwards. by floods. Out 01 the total geographical area that we have. In Kerala we have a spec~alproblem to whch almost that IS, about 329 m~lhonhectare. one-elghth ot the all the hon. Members have referrend to. We In Kerala area IS flood ,,lone After the disastrous flood In 1954. have cash crops. When sudden rams and devastal~ng a nat~onalprogramme on flood management was lloods occur. cash crops are affected very badly I have launched by the Central Government I am very sorry to gone through the norms prescribed lor prov~d~ng say that though thls programme was launched, nothmg ass~stancefor cash crops and other crops Slnce Shr~ substantla1 had been done towards th~send Therelore. Chaturanan M~shraIS hold~ngthe very Important pc~rtlol~o of Agriculture, he has to see that larrrie~sand 1 request the hon M~n~sterto revlew and evaluatt: the agr~cultur~stssuffered by the recent floods are gwen exstlng tlood control measures From 1954 onwards wc proper asslstance have undertaken a number of programmes A number . of short-term measures were also undertaken by the I come from an area where the largest rubber Government The State Governments are lmplementmg plantallon IS located Dur~ngthe last floods and cyclorie these programmes according to the~rcl~mat~c and one-fourth of thls rubber plantatlor1 got cornplctely geographic condltlons Yet. we are not In a posltlon to damaged Even though the Government has earrnnrked control the occurrence of llood In our country Every funds lor disbursement, for the last many years riot a year the devastatmg flood takes away the l~vesand slngle palsa was pa~daga~nst the cash crops and rubbt,t property of the poor people of the country. A total neb? plantattons Where I! IS pard 11 IS too meagre thal 11 13 not acceptable to tarmerc, Farmers arc. not rcadk to approach to th~sproblem IS necessary Th~s1s my humble suggestion take that money I d~dnot want to go Into thc sea eroslon aspect A I would say that research and developmental lot of my colleagues have already mentioned about actlvltles In respect of flood control should be expedited that Kerala has the longest coastl~neof 600 krn I krion I1 we see the programmes tha! we are implementmg that this sublect does not come under the jurlsdlctlnri of slnce 1995, the research and developmental actlvltles Shr~Chaturanan M~shraand 11 comes under the M~nistr~ are almost lacklng It IS very necessary to prepare 8 of Water Resources It IS unfortunate that thc Ceritral comprehenslve master plan tor the flood control The Government has completely neglected our seacoast Stale Government IS assessing the total damage caused We spend money on Delence Th~scoastltne also IS a by these floods No concrete step has been taken by very ~mportantboundary from the po~nlo! \,Ic.+ 01 the State Government I request that a comprehenslve Detence Thls €103 km of seacoast IS completelv master plan should be chalked out rn this regard Th~s neglected I! 1s not protected a1 all Vulnerable areas IS an area where we can get external assistance alsc have completely been neglected For marl\ years no;: We can get ass~stancelrom the World Bank. IDA and the sea has been submer@ng tho coast The poor a lot other lorelgn agencles External assrstance IS bemg f~shermenare suffer~ngbecause of th~s Roads are glven to varlous countr~eswhlch are atlected by a sere5 complete!^ destroyed Human life has becorw vcrv of flood In the past. lnd~ahad also got a lot of asslstance miserable rn the coastal areas of Kearala Thc from the external agencles I would say that there 1s no Government should lake urgent steps lor constrirct~ny monrtormg mechanism to see vdhether the money that sea.walls and lor malntalng the exlstlng sea~%i~II~~ 1s bemg provlaed IS bemg utll~sedproperly by the Stale Governments or not You ~111be surprised to know that F~nally :eyard~ngthe Central asslstanct. r L.r~:v, certaln State Governments are dlvert~ngthc funds that Shri Chaturar~anM~shra IS golng to cnmr wltti ;I~I earmarked lor llood control measures and are Instead answer that as per the Tenth F~nance(~nnim~ss~on s ullllsmg this money to pay salarles to thelr employees recommendattons such and such sums ol monw haw A tlme has come when we should glve a fresh look tr, been earmarkad for d~flerentStates Rut 11 1s nrlc.essaf, the already exlstrng flood corltrol measures thaf are Icr revlew the recommentallons of the 'Tl~cnthF.~nnncg there In our c3untry smce 1954 Commlsslon Floods or no floods calam~t~esor n!, calam~tles fhe State Government wll get 11s sharp Ruf Mere semrnars and d~scuss~crnswlll rlol solve the when there 15 a devastating llood when therr IS a problem I have gone throuth the records From 1954 severe cyclone. 117 (he coastal arees of thc! South ttw onwarcls the Central Government had conducted lo! a damages should be ilsscsstd separately by SPddlrrcj of semcnars rn d~ferentmetropolltam cltles In wh~cha lot speclal teamis from Ihe Central Go~ernmcrll f-uncls of m~nlslersand delegates partlclpaled It 1s very should be prov~declto thc State Governments occo~d~r~q unlortunate that noth~ngconcrete came out 01 them lo Ihe damages Incurred so thal thosc! funds r.an be I do not want to go Into the detads of the devaslatlng d~slrrbutedlo the vrctlms Th16 rs not happcnrng rww It floods that occurred In the counlry In whlch almost all 1s lime to have a fresh look mlo the Tenth F~nance the Stales are affecled Even lodaf cerlaln parts of the Cornmlss~on5 recommendal~ons 257 Drscuss~onUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26 1918 isaka1 D~scussonUnder Rule 193 258

I do not want to take much of the hme 31 the House I hope a learned M~n~sterhke Shr~Chaturanan Mlshra SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl Mr Chalrman Sir w~lltake this aspect Into cons~derat~onseriously We the t~mewas alloted upto 7 p m The number of speakers ri~scussabout lloods In every monsoon Session. but IS large srnce this subje:t IS very serrous. Many members nothmg comes out ol 11 want to speak I would hke to urge that the full dlscusslon There are ~rregular~t~esIn the spendmg of money t~ll8 p m. should be conducled. Let the hon Mlnlster by the State Governments also A fresh look rnto that reply tomorrow because there are several Members to speak on this Subject today aspect IS also needed By dolng ~t flood control measures can be eflectwely ~mplementedby the State [Engl~sh! Governments MR CHAIRMAN Let me explam the pos~ttonThe MN CHAIRMAN Let me have your oplnlon Busmess Adv~sory Commltlee has adv~sedthat this regardrng the t~nreof this debate The l~stwhrch IS debate should conclude today It was earher suggested before rnt. contams a number 01 speakers-of about that the hon Mlnlster w~llreply to the debate at seven 1'3 Ttwy are yet to speak Earlier ~t was declded that 0' clock In the evenlng And then slnce there were a thc House mill cont~nuet111 8 p m Let me ha~lea large number of partlclpants ~t was declded that ~t may benel~tof your oplnlon How long have we to contlnue7 be further extended by an hour. ~ncludmgthe Mmster's SHHl ANlL BASU Each hon Member may be time. Now. as 1 have told you earher that there are stlll 3lvcn two m~nutes 13 Members to speak If everybody IS to be allowed to speak. then you suggested some of the hon Members SHHI MAOHUKAR SARPOTDAR If you want lhat - two mlnutes each Then that may be accepled c~,~crvbodvshould speak then you should restr~ct .ilnterrupl~ons~ yourself to two mlnules Thank you SHRl MADHUKAR SARPOTDAR Th~srestrlctlon Shr~Ham Kr~palYadav I lnterrupt~onsi should have been put from the very beglnnmg Why should the tallenders only suffer'. ..ilnterruplwts\ SHHl CHATORANAN MISHRA Thal ~ncludesthe M~rristcr MR CHAIRMAN . Then 1 have to go by the sense of the House MH CHAIPMAN No the hon M~n~ster1s excluded tee can take as rnuch t~meas he hkes You can speak .I!, long as you l~ke SHHl CHATLlRANAN MISHHA Then, 11 w~llgo PRO RASA SlNGH RAWAT We have been slttlng :wcvontl 9 p m i Jrl!errupl~ons! here slnce mornlng to speak . Onlerruphonsr MR CHAIRMAN Then ~t 1s let! to your dlscret~on

MR CHAIRMAN I know the problem Please s~t down VJe have been the vlctlms of these d~ff~cult~es! am qultc aware of th~sproblem But please say what StcH1 WAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl Mr Cha~rman.Sir 1s to be done Is ~t the sense of the House to conllnue there ;.\re several Members who want to speak on th~s the debate up to nine 0' clock or IS 11 to be postponed suhlert and the tlme upto 8 p rn has been t~xedlor the to tomorrow? d~scusslonon thrs subject I lnterrupt~ons~ AN HONOURABLE MEMBER Tomorrow atter sr~ I 6 nglst).' 0 clock MH CHAIRMAN It has already been dec~dedby MR CHAIRMAN Let us contlnue tdl eight O'clock the Busmess Adv~soryCommlltee that the debate should SHRl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV (Sllchari Thvteen conclude today hon Members are left You cannot stop anybody wlthlr two mlnutes So. you can glve four or fwe mlnutes tc SYRl MADHUKAR SARPOTDAR In the Busmess each hon Member As many as poss~blecan Speak ul Advisory Cornm~ttre 11 was dec~dedthat at Seven C tb e~ght0 clock Tomorrow. ~t somebody else IS lett out clock the Mrnlster of Agrlcullure w~llreply That was the they may speak and Ihe hon Mln~sterwill reply Tha. declslon will be a better Idea.. .(lnrerrupr~ons\ MR CHAIRMAN Thal IS all r~ght SHRl CHATURANAN MISHRA My point IS th~r SHRl ANlL BASU It was left to the Cha~r there IS a Call Attenl~onMollon tomorrow Another Cacr (Interrupt~ons)Is 11 the faull ol the Chatr?. (Interruphons1 Attentron Mot~onon Sugar also IS there So, YOU dec~de What IS wrong with the Charr? (Inlerruptrons) accordmgly Drscuss~onUnder Rule 193 JULY 17 1996 Drscuss~or~Under Ri~la 193 260

SHRI SURESH PRABHU : We can postpone 11 to badly affected by the devastatmg flood and even today some other day. It should be a proper debate. That IS the area needs relref and lescue works. But. I Ihmk. that ~vhatwe thlnk. the Unron Government has not provlded funds for the tlood from the Natronal Calarn~ty Rel~elFund SHRI CHATURANAN MISHRA . I do not say that you do not thmk proper. I am just remlndlng the Chaw Not only thls. last year when the State of Brhar was that tomorrow also there IS a Call~ngAttention Mollon affected by the flood, thc Unron Government, or) the an Sugarcane prrclng etc (Inlerruptronsl demand of the State (hvernment had allocated Hs. 21 crore but the Unm Government has not released that SHRl SONTOSH MOHAN DEV Thrs IS the amount lo the State Government so tar I. through you procedure In th~sHouse. Alter Quest~onHour, Matters would l~keto ulge upon the Agrlculturc M~n~sterand the Under Rule 37:. Zero Hour. Callmg Attent1011Mollon Government of Indl'i ltiat the amount of Hs 71 crclle and then other subjects will come should be ~mmed~alelymade avarlable to the Slate Then other subjects wlll come Goiernment MR CHAIRMAN . I thlnk let us come to th~sdeclslon i;ile shall contmue till 8 00 p m and the rest w~llfollo~ :Dmorro& SHRI CHATURANAN MISHRA 1h(. M~r~lslryc~l Ayrculture has already sanctioned 11 It IS pcmhrlg ~.1t1i Mr. Yadav, please restrlct yourself to not more than the Mln~stryof F~nanceI just wanted to ~~mlridthe tlon f~vem~nutes Member about th~s

SHRl RAM KRIPAL YADAV ~Patnai Mr Chairman. PROF RASA SlNGH RAWAT When you or1 hehall Slr. I am thanktul to you for provrd~ngme an opportunity of the Government of lndla have already sa~ict~oned to speak. The House, today. has been d~scussrngon the the amount that should be made ava~lableto the Sralc subject of natural calamllles for qulte a long !!me I thlnk Government that the House IS r~ghtlyexpresslng ~tsconcern, spec~ally several hon. Members have acquamted the House w~th the flood sltuatlon of the~rrespectwe States and i support SHRI CHATUHANAN MISHHA All of us knovi the :he suggestron that there should be dlscussmn on the viay we functlnn fimd Sltuatlon In every sesslon of Ihe Parl~amerrt But even afler the d~scussron,no concrete measure 15 taken. -o solullon IS found and as a result the poor people 31 the country have always to face the menace of the SHRI RAM KPlPAl YADAV I lhrough yoi: ivoi~ld flood But the d~scuss~onwdl understood lo be meanlnglul 11C.e to urge upon the hon Prime M~n~st~rI<,makc ava~lablcthc amomt of Hs 21 crorc sanct~nncdtram cnly when a concrele solut~cnIS found by the G?vernment Mr Charrman Sir. I through you &ould the National Calam~tyRelwf Firnd IGB~har Govcrrirnrnl i,C.e IGState that there are many parts In the wuntrf ~mmedlately ~:h~chare flood prone and they hare IL tace eJc.ry year Sir geograph~callylndm has 3200 lakh hectares of :+lt aevastatlon of flood In whlch property worth crores land out of whlch 320 lakh hectares of land IS atte!:tcd -.t rupees IS damaged Our State loo falls In ttw same by Hood In oncr way or olhcr every year Tt~cGovernment :ateyrJry and the hon M~nlsler1s also from B~har the of lndm has been managmy to coritrol the flood srr~cc S!a!e I hall from Almost half part of B~harcome5 Irl the 1994 After so marly year:, and desprte bemg fully mare g.15 of toe flood every year and particularly 22 dlstrlct5 ol the s~tuat~orithfl Government of lndm IS rlol takmg :f north Brhar are damaged every year by !he any corlcrele measure I denland that the Cioverr~munl '1e:astatlng llood The flood cla~msmany i14es road!, '31 ind~alo thlnk over I~IPmatter SOIIOUS~~so that the are rlamaged, the crops and the houses of Ihe poGr loss bf Me and proptrrty on such a large scale every ueople are alsc damaged and ull~matelypeople of that year could be prcvenlud and Ihc goor people could be area have to prne for flood I would hke lo ylve the prov~dedrellcf flgdres of the last year Last year the flood In B~har The flood does no1 damage property crl Ihp slates WL3gE.d the property worth Rs 1200 crore and around mfy but the proporty ol Unlon Cjovornmenl tor) l'herc t.+s h~rldredpeople lost therr lives The llood whrch are ra~lwayIrnes In every Stale and the othcr proporl~us came all of a sudden In Eithar parlrcularly In 6hagalpur belongrng to Ihe Unron Government arc also lhcre wh~ch and Bank d~strrcts damaged ali the roads. all Ihe small are damaged overy year The llood clams Ihe lives of and brg brrdges all Ihe crops and the houses of the a number ol l~vsslocksand Ihe people Unless concrole poor This year alsD the 12 dlstrrcts 01 norlh hhar are and affect~vesteps are taken lo prevent Ihe Iloods. 11 26 1 Dlscussfon Under Rule 193 ASADHA 26 1918 fSak81 Olscuss~on LJridpr Rule 19J 262

w~llbe lmposslble lo escape the damage and loss due normal llle of the people could also be saved lrom to ~t It IS not the loss of any part~cularState but 11 IS a be~ngdisturbed nat~onalloss I through you. would l~keto raw one more demand Therelore, alter puttlng some sugqest~ons I w~ll There IS a scheme ol construct~ngpucca houscs tor the conclude my speech. Dera a vast area under Danapur poor whose houses are damaged In the llood because segment of Patna d~str~ctIn my Parl~amentary lhey are made of mud and strab They shr~uldbe Corist~luency where around one lakh people res~de.IS prov~dedmore money to hu~ltpucca and sol~dhouses affected by the flood every year Due lo the flood In so that they could get a sqh 01 rel~et Ciarqa and Sone rlvers, sod eroslon on large scale I would also lrke tc, dernand to ~mplemeritthe crop takcs place there result~ngIn heavy loss to lhe poor Insurance scheme on large scale slrtce ours IS a larrners res~d~ngIn that area S~ncethe State Government has country and the larmers dle w Injured on large scale resource-crunch. 11. desplle havmg good ~ntentlons,l~nds Therefore I request the hon Fvlin~sterto ~mplementth~s ltself unable to prevent the sod croslon Therefore I scheme In elaborate form I hope the hon M~n~sler would I~kcto urge upon the Government of Ir~chato take would pay attention toivards the o!k! parts of the country sr~rn~concrete steps so that lakhs of people res~drngIn spec~allythe llood aflectr?rj people of B~harand l~ndout Der;~ area of Danapur could be saved and the area a concrete solut~onfor them W~ththese words. I could also be saved fr JI~the so11 ernslon takmg place conclude my speech cvcry year As an hon Member has lust merit~oned,the problem of the flood thal we have to face every year. Rap11had SHRl T GOVINDAN ~Kesargoda~Mr Charman. 1 v sac cas due to rlvers flow~ngthrough Nepal The rlvers am golng to rase some small Issues MI, fr~endsfrom that flow from Nepal to India cary heavy quantum ol Kerala have already ~xplalnpdthe damages due to hater w~ththem whch IS transformed ~ntothe flood flood In Kerala So I need not repeal them ittter cornlng to lndm For example Gandak Roodh~ I would l~keto pomt out one 9r two thmgs only The iiandak Kamala Bagan. Kos~and Bagmat1 are such recommendat~onsof the Tenth F~nanceComm~ss~on are rivers due to wh~cha vast area of B~harIS mundated not sulf~c~entThe Central Government has to recons~der \,very bear I demand that the Government of lnd~a the recommendat~onsof the Tenlh F~nanceCommtss~on :.l~ouldd~scuss th~s Issue w~ttithe Government of Nepal because of h~ghlnflat~on and devaluat~onof rupee So Sirh d~scuss~onshave taken place many t~mesIn !he I humbly request !he Central Government to reform the st hut no concrete solut~oncould be fourid 1 demand recommendat~ons of the Tenth F~nanceComm~ss~on !!la! t!wrr sk-~uldhe a pact at ~ntcrnat~onallevel These r ;rArsore the flood prone and B~harIS affccted by the Secondly Kerala IS taang a serlous problem of sea fI~m3 CVPIV year Therelore, unless a pact IS sqned on eroslon The Gc;ernmcnt should cons~derthe sea csast this matter or a permanent solut~on IS fcrund those as the ~nlernaf~onalborder of the countrv The Central :, pi;ovle of B~harcould not be saved from the devastat~on Government should rake steps to prevent sea eroslon at ttw flood The problem 01 s~ltphng up In beavv Everk year. !housands of acres of land IS be~nglost In qu;$ntlt\ IS also there, lherefore des~lt~ngmeasures Kerala due to t~dalattack and thousands of houses and r,hould also be taken Graduallv. the with of the each coconut trees collapse It IS the bounden duty of Ihr rlirr IS Irlc,rcaslng causlnq the overfloh of water Central Government to prevent sea erosion The Kerala Thort4o1c~ the s~ltshould be dredged oitt SO that Ihe Government 1s havmg a meape exchequer and 11 cannot tluixi c~ultlbe p~eventedand the people ol B~haras construct sea walls Hence the Central Government wc!lI as thc other parts of lnd~acould get a s~yhof rel~ef should take Ihe resporls~b~l~tyof construct~ng sea walk MH CHAIRMAN Please conclude W~ththese words I conclude my sreech SIIHI HAM KRIPAL YADAV I would like to glve a suygcst~trriUnless the Ganga Flood Control Programme 15 c.oniplcted htrar cannot get rld of the llood It IS SHRl RAMASHRAY PRASAD SlNGH IJahanabadl rt*sult~ngInto flood In d~fferentareas of R~haran3 the Mr Cha~rman.Slr ptq~lcare s~~llcr~ng(lntcrruprronsi Mr Cha~rman SII MR CHAIRMAN Please Irv lo be br~ef marly hon Members are oblecllng I never ~riterrupted SHRl RAMASHRAY PRASAD SlNGH Mr an\ M~ltiherwh~le speakma The time lor other Members has also beer1 l~xed1 shall not take much llme I, through Cha~rman.SII I always try to be br~ettherelore, there 1s no need to say so you would l~keto urge upon the Unlon Government to take some crmcrele steps lo save the country as well Sir, f~rstI would hke to say that several hon Members as B~harlrom the devastallon 01 the llood so that B~har have taken par1 In thls debate and they have spoken arid the crops of tho larmers could be saved and the about thou respective Slates and areas I have been JLJLY 17, 1996 Dtsctrsston Under RIJ~P193 264

takmg part In such dlscusslon slnce the E~ghthLok have been damaged What IS the lustil~cat~onof this Sabha and now speak~ngIn Eleventh Lok Sabha Rut debate? I want that ~tshould be taken ser~ouslyPol~c~es I would l~keto point out that after debate on such an have been lorrn~~latedtor 11 llme and agaln but the ~mportantIssue the Government ma~ntalnss~lerlcc! an same could not be ~mplernrntedas corruptlon on large this Issue and no attentlon IS pald towards I! scale IS prevalhng In the prosent Government. Hon. Ch~elMlnlster has glven an assurance lo prov~deRs. Mr. Cha~rman Sir, flood problem has become a 50 thousand to the fam~l~eswhose houses and cult~vable curse and no Government could rescue the countrv from ~t.The loss due to flood could not be compensated land was atlecled by floods, but I would l~keto say that even today The most fertlle land of our villages has th~samourit 1s not sufflclelit been f~lledwlth sand and stones due to flood as a I demand that thls amount should be Increased result thereof th~sland has been useless No~v11 IS not lrom Rs 50 thousand to Rs 2 lakh Secondly. the flood su~tablelor cirlt~vat~onOwners 01 th~sland have been pol~cyshould be formulated unan~mouslyafter gettlng ru~nedand rendered homeless They are on verge of the vlews of the leaders of all the pol~tlcalpartles starvat~onand compelled to take up some other means SHRl ANANT GANGARAM GEETF: (Ratnag~r~)Mr to earn their I~vcl~hood Chalrman SII we heard tht> v~cwsof the Members of Mr Charman Sir, late Shr~K L Rao had prepared 8th Loh Sabha We generally d~scussthe Issues on and subm~ttedto th~sHouse a masterplan to save the flood drought and other natural calamlt~esIn the House country lrom the flood problem But th~splan v.35 but we forget them alter lcav~ngth~s House We cannot dumped and no actlon was taken In th~sregard Had control natural calam~t~csbut the only th~ngwe can do the Masterplan been ~mplemented.there would be no IS that we can prov~derelwl to people and places need to debate this Issue of flood and countrb would affected by the natural calam~t~es have got some rehet But no attent~onwas pa~dtowards Mr Cha~rman.Sir the peoplc 01 Konhan area 01 I! and the country suffers a huge loss due to flood. Maharashtra have sulfered a huge loss due to Cyclone Mr. Cna~rman,vie debate th~sIssue In d~flercn! this year I had from Konkan It cclmprlses of the lour manners and feel that we have performed our duty by d~slr~ctsThana Ra~garh Ratnag~r~and Smdhu Ttrerc dlscuss~ngthe Issue. are mountaln ranges In the east and Arah~anSea In the But I would hke to say that the huge loss suffered Vilest ot Knrikan Th~s1s a h~llyarea The whole Konkari by the country due lo lloods and thousands of n~~lllons area I5 surrounded bv sea The area laces natural and b~lhonsrupees bang spent for protectlng the country ,:olam~t~esevery year T~ISvear c-yclcm has caused huge from I! th~sall c~uldhave been saved 11 that masterplan loss to Konkan was ~rnplemented Today we are not able to save thc In th~sHouse vhle replymq to an oral question. llle and property bemg destroyed by llood So. 1 request hon Mln1stt.r 01 Agr~culturc~has staled that nlrir persons you to ~mpl~menlthat masterplafi to save the \'ihok were k~llrdIn Murr~bai11.1 arl lnc~der~!of lall 01 a wall 40 country from the curse of floods persons were k~llcdhy strlkmg 01 l~ghten~nyhouses Mr Cha~rman Sir due to pauc~tyof t~me~ihlk were damaged In Rtltnaq~r~and Sunaridadury area 01 concludmg I would IIK~to say that B~harhas suffered Konkan due to heavy rams f'~stwrrrrcnIlvc:, along the a huge loss due to lloods and therelore sull~c~entlunds shore of Arab~ansea As per rnv ~r~tcirmat~onaboul 22 should be glven to B~harGovernment so that 11 could f~sherrnen have been reported rn~s~~riydur~ng Cyclon protect the people from floods Wlth th~sI conclude perhaps they have lost the11 IIVE:SIrr the sea But 11 has SHRl PRABHU DAYAL KATHERIP iF'~r~zabadjMr not been merrt~onedIn the rcl~tyglven by hon Mmstcr 01 Agr~culture I request you to collect ~nlormal~on Sha~rman Sir hon Members have expressed therr regard~ngthe loss suffered by these l~shcrmen anguish In lh~sHouse over the problems bwng laced by the flood allected States In tne country When I was I would llke to dravi your attent~ontowards an elected for the 10th Lok Sabha. this Issue was belng lmporlanl pomt Natural r3alamltles struck alniosl every d~scussedat that t~meS~m~larly, durlng the year 1991. year People sutler and hope lor rel~elAt the t~meof 92.93 th~sIssue was debated t~meand agam But *hat such natural calam~t~eswhether 11 IS caused by Ilood. 1s the use 01 such debate7 This House has debated the drought or Cyclon, people of thls country first render flotd problem lime and agaln whether lhls problem IS lhelr help to the allected, lollowed by the Government laced by Uttar Pradesh Punjab. B~har Rajasthan. It IS a tact that humanlty IS st~llthere In our people Haryana or any other Slate I would llke to draw your attentlon to the tact that Mr Cha~rman.Slr flood has caused a loss of Rs the State Government has ~mposedban on flshmg atter 742 crore In Agra-F~rozabadarea of Western Uttar 7th 01 June It IS very essential because heavy ram Pradesh. Lakhs ol hectare of land has been allected pours durmg June end July and Cyclon struck the reglon badly Crops have been deslroyed and several houses wh~chcause huge loss lo l~shermen F~shermenare 266 265 D~scussronUnder Rule 193 ASADHA 26, 1918 '(Saka~ Drscussron Under Rule 1Y.3 compelled to go lor f~sh~nglnsplte of Imposltlon of ban part~c~pateIn the dlscussron can partlclpate today and because flshlng IS the~roccupat~on They are compelled M~n~sterw~ll reply tomorrow to take the r~skof the~rI~ves. I urge upon the Government MR. CHAIRMAN Is 11 the sense of the House3 to prov~decornpensallon to those f~shermenwho become the v~ct~msof such ~nc~dentsand whose sh~ps [Translatron] are damaged therem before the date of ~mposlt~onof PROF RASA SlNGH RAWAT Mr Chalrman. Slr. the ban 1.e 7th June The Government should pay kmdly llsten to me My poln! IS that vou have already attention to 11 and should prov~decompensahon to the glven your decision and have spec~l~edthe number of affectod fishermen of our State whlch IS surrounded by Speakers as well The hon Membors ~hoare to speak. the Sea have left the House after your decls~on,presumrng that the dlscusslon has been postponed f~lltomorrow. AS a dlscusslon has been taken 11 would bc unfair to the MR CHAIRMAN Shr~Arakal hon members who have already left I request you to THE MINIST6R OF PARLIAMENTARY AFFAIRS extend the tlme of the House upto 8 p m (Interruptronsl AND MINISTER OF TOURISM (SHRI SRIKANTA JENAI SHRI RAMESH CHENNITHALA Those who have May I make a request to complete the debate today left are not Interested In the dlscusslon We are slttlng ~tselt becastle tomorrow, there IS so much ol here even after partlclpatlng In the dlscuss~on Thls 1s btmness" ~inltvrupl~ons) not good Those vrho are not Interested have left YOU cannot do l~keth~s

SHHl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl This Issue has jEngl~sh] already been ralsed and hon Chalrman has glven h~s MR. CHAIRMAN . Let h~mspeak Mr Arakal, please ruhng on 11 Thc tlme of the House upt~ll8'0 clock IS not continue sufflc~entbecause every Member w~shto speak on this Issue 1 Inlerruphons I .:Transial~onj SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl Mr Cha~rman,it has already been declded llnlerruprfons~ SHRl SRIKANTA JENA It IS poss~blethat we may s~tto1 one more hour and complete the debate and PROF RASA SlNGH RAWAT There should be a Mlnlsler can also reply today ltselt? Tomorrow 11 w~llbe consensus on thls The supporters of the ruhng party ~mposslbleas there 1s so much of busmess That IS why are only agreeing to ~t You are not seeklng our oplnlon ~t was dscussed In the Busmess Advisory Committee There should be a consensus. ~Intenuprions) where Speaker was also present and I! was dec~ded that we must s~tlate today. (Interrupl~onsr (Englrsh,: SHRI XAVIER ARAKAL May I cont~nue? MR CHAIRMAN Yes. please contmue PROF RASA SlNGH RAWAT Have you ~nade SHRl XAVIER ARAKAL Tnank you Mr Cha~rman arrangrmcnts for those hon Members who are here Th~sHouse ~nterruplrons sincc the nwnlng (Inlern~pt~oris~ Sir , SHRl SRIKANTA JENA The Memhers who are SHRI SHIKANTA JENA There w~llbe no problem here and ~nterestedto partlclpale in thls debate ma) 11 lh~sdlscuss~on IS continued tomorto* also speak nor% It IS a serlous debate Do not lracture this debate (Interrupr~ons1

MH CHAIRMAN There are st~llnine Members to , Trar?sld!~on,~ Speclh PROF RASA SINGH RAWAT Sir 1h1s IS a serrous

SHRl HAMESH CHENNITHALA Only ten Members matter I lnterruplrans 1 are slttmg here SHRI SRIKANTA JENA I hai,e heard you You MR CHAIRMAN As I stated earher the Rusness should also listen to me I I~?er:up:ro~s1 Advlsrvy Commlttee requested the House to complete the dellatr today Therelore, 11 we have to accommodate /Englrsh) one and all, t mu rally, we w~llhave to s~tellher todab SHRl SRIKANT JENA SI: those Members vrho are lor longer house or tomorrow sllll In the House and intereslea to parltclpate In :he SUFI1 ANll BAS11 It has already been agreed bv debate let them partlc~pate let them complete the41 all sectlons of the House that Members who want to speeches and hon Mln~stercan reply tomorrow 267 Dtscussron Under Rule 193 JULY 17. 1996 DISCUSSIO~Under Rule 193 268

[Translafion] again extending it further. It 1s not fair. I thmk we should continue the discussion tomorrow. SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl : You have glven a dec~sionthat we w~lls11 1111 8 0' clock today and this MR. CHAIRMAN : Nothing can be done without d~scuss~onw~ll be resumed tomorrow. your cooperation.

The hon. Mmster may reply tomorrow. [Translatron] 20.00 hr6. SHRl RAJENDRA AGNlHOTRl : We are prepared lo s~teven after 7.00 p.m. tomorrow II we are asked to [Englrsh] do so. SHRl SRIKANTA JENA I request the Chair to allow the hon. Members to speak. We can accommodate many [Englrsh] hon. Members today ltsell SHRl SRIKANTA JENA : Tomorrow. 11 you are prepared to sit 1111 m~dn~ghtwe arc prepared for ~t [Translatron] Tomorrow, after the Government bus~nessIS over we PROF. RASA SlNGH RAWAT : If 11 IS your wlsh, we w~lltake up this Issue. are leavmg and then you may do whatever you hke to. SHRl MADHUKAR SARPOTDAR . All r~ght

[Englrsh] MR. CHAIRMAN : The House now stands adjourned SHRl MADHUKAR SARPOTDAR : Mr Chaman. 20.01 hrs. Slr. 11 was dec~dedearher that the d~scusslonwould cont~nueuplo seven O'clock and at seven o'clock the The Lok Sabha then adjourned trll Eleven of the hon. Minister ol Agriculture would reply to the Clock on Thursday, July 18. 1996,Asadha 27, d~scuss~on.Then. the time ol the House was extended 1918 (Saka) upto 8 o'clock and we agreed to that. Now, we are