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Australians at War Film Archive John Newman (Peter) - Transcript of interview Date of interview: 22nd March 2004 http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/1385 Tape 1 00:36 Where were you born? Born in Ballina. What year? 1913. Where did you do your schooling? Most of it, well I first commenced school at Camden out in Sydney 01:00 but I did most of me schooling at Rous about 20 odd miles from Ballina, Alstonville and for the last three years of my schooldays I was at Lismore high school. And I got the intermediate certificate 01:30 as far as me education goes, I got it at Alstonville and then I went onto Lismore high school, got me leaving certificate in 1928 or ’29. What did you do when you left school? I’ve been a banana grower all me life, working life 02:00 my father was one of the early banana growers on the Richmond River. And in 1926 or thereabouts, around about that date a ‘Bunchy Top’ [virus] disease just wiped everything out in the Richmond. and he was lost; didn’t know what he was going to do. It was before he reckoned he’d never take on dairying 02:30 but he was more or less forced to buy a dairy farm, at Tuckombil just out of Alstonville. And we shifted to Gerald, the family did, or to Tuckombil just outside of Alstonville dairy, in there from ’28 to about ‘32 03:00 but in the meantime my father went looking for banana growing area and he went up north to Tully. He paid a deposit on a farm at Tully, it was only scrub land I suspect, I never seen it myself. He paid a deposit on it and come down and told Mum what he had done. 03:30 Anyway there’s 5 of us in the family, 3 brothers myself and me sister. We were all going to school at the time and Mum went up to Tully to look, to see what it was like up there. Do you want to stop for a minute John? 04:00 Eventually Mum saw the farm where it was and he, and he thought the conditions, 04:30 what it was like at Tully at the time. And she put it on the market straight away. Came down and my father heard of a place down near this area and he came down, he purchased it around about 1930, that’s when I first came to Woolgoolga. 05:00 I only came down for a short time, oh the family didn’t shift down, I happened to be down here roughly about 1930 and I was only down for a couple of months and went back up north, but my father and the eldest brother, they started the banana growing and 05:30 me, by that time I had left school, and the younger brother the one next to me, him and I, we continued on the dairy farm until 1932, and the bananas down here were ‘bearing’ [fruiting] at the time and, when the whole family, 06:00 Mum and the whole family, shifted down there my father and my youngest brother was down there at the time out in the bush. And it was ’32 and I’ve been in Woolgoolga ever since. When did you sign up for the war? Well actually, this is February ’42 when I signed onto the war. But 06:30 I’ll continue on, the it was down here at ’35, it might have been a bit before ’35, anyway I just corresponded as a pen-pal, I was only a lad of about 19, I may have been early 20s, I doubt whether I was or not though, I was corresponded with a girl from Winnipeg over in Canada. 07:00 I don’t know if you have ever heard this tale before but, in ’35, mother and father did a tour and they visited over from Canada and came back and told me what it was all like, they spoke well of them, I don’t know what made me do it or not, but I took it in me head that I’d 07:30 go across to Canada, and I here in Australia, I was interested in surf life saving, and before going over I got inducted into the association, so I was a member of the Surf Life Saving Association and anyway 08:00 in ’37, I went to Canada and I only was only going over there for week or two only for I don’t know might have been about 200 ‘quid’ [pounds] in my pocket but that’s about all. I hadn’t got much, that goes fairly quickly when you are overseas. And I went up to the Canadian Rockies and going from Calgary out to Banff, I wanted to go and have a look at it. There was, travelling along, the 08:30 person sitting next to me who happened to be living in Banff, his home town and he turned out to be a bloke called Frank Brewster. And he and I, he was a man I suppose who might have been 6 years older than me wouldn’t have been much more than that, in charge of the Brewster’s Transport. And 09:00 anyway, when I got there I didn’t have accommodation and he said, " Well look, I’ll get you a bed, one at the Brewster’s Hotel” and he said, "I’ll most probably come down and see you later on in the night” and the reason, I had already told him I belonged to the surf movement, in general conversation. And when he came down to the room at night time 09:30 he had the manager of the Banff Springs Hotel there. This manager, bloke named Dalziell, he’s dressed up in a dinner suit, well dressed and everything, and I thought. ‘God what’s come along’, but I wasn’t told when I was introduced to him, he stated his reason, 10:00 he came “Down with Brewster who told me you belonged to the surfing movement”. He said, “Would you care for a job at Banff, while you are here?” and I said, “What doing” and he said, "At the swimming pool, we only have a staff of 3 at the swimming pool, would you care to be one of them?” I took him up on it. The conditions at Canada then in ‘37 10:30 was I’d say, worse as what I’d seen in ’32 in Australia, things were. And the pay, I was getting was only $25 a month. Can I interrupt, can you give me a really brief summary? We can come back to details later. 11:00 After you left Canada where did you go? I went across to England, I spend 3 months, no 6 weeks I spent in England, then and then I came home via the Suez. What did you do when you got back to Australia? Came back onto the banana plantation, and since then I’d done, oh 1, 2, 3 trips to Canada since then. 11:30 You said you signed up to the war in 1942? 1942 I signed up. Where did you do your initial training? I did most of the training in what was the Pioneer Battalion [1st Battalion, Pioneers, New South Wales] in Dubbo and Bathurst. Where did you go from Bathurst? Bathurst, I 12:00 volunteered to transfer to ‘pioneers’ to the, well it wasn’t actually ‘pioneers’, it didn’t have a name, got to go to the northern territory; commando, independent company it was. And went down to Ingleburn then and most of our training at Ingleburn was, well I’d say we practically did no training in Ingleburn apart from those 12:30 that were in the, what do you call them, in the signals, it was in the signals they had a lot of help, but the other two just did nothing, mostly marching, like we go out, march nearly half a day or nearly all day, just to keep us out of mischief I suppose it was. 13:00 After Ingleburn, where was your first posting? Stayed in Ingleburn until, oh what month? July, be late July and we didn’t embark, we moved from there to Katherine, stopping over at, actually I went 13:30 from Sydney to Brisbane by tracks on the New England Highway took about a fortnight, probably 10 days or a fortnight, I was in Brisbane, then from there we went to Mount Isa by train and then from Mount Isa to Katherine, not to Katherine to Maremma, as far as the railway in the Northern Territory run those days. 14:00 And then we went up to Katherine. How long were in you Katherine for? Ah, I wouldn’t be certain, I would say about 4 days before we were put into companies and we went bush in there. I was a member of 5 platoon ‘B’ company [Australian Pioneers] and 14:30 our area was on the Victoria river and Windermere, and we covered that area there. I understand that after that you went to New Guinea? I went to New Guinea, the threat to Australia was over there by the time I was there, by that time 15:00 It was, ’43 I think, end of ’43, ‘B’ company was done away with and the troops were all sent back to Sydney and ‘B’ company, most of them I wouldn’t say everyone, but most of them were sent back to Sydney for redrafting.

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