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No. 27, Tuesday, July 12, 1977/Asadha 21, 1899 (Sako) C o lu m n s Oral Answers to Questions : ♦Starred Questions Nos. 425, 427 to 430, 432 and 433 i — 31 Re : Short Notice Question. 31— 34 Short Notice Question No. 16 34—44

Written Answers to Questions :

Starred Questions Nos. 426, 431 and 434 to 444 4 4 — 54

Unstarred Questions Nos. 3147, 3148, 3150 to 3216, and 3218 to 3 2 8 4 ...... 55— 185

Papers laid on the Table 185— 187

Question o f Privilege against Shri Kishore J. Tanna o f Messrs. Jamnadas Madhavji & Co., Bombay .... 188— 189

Re. Business o f the House . . . 189— 190

Demands for Grants, 1977-78— Ministry o f Labour 190-—230 Shri Ravindra Varma 190— 216

Ministry o f Home Affairs ' 230— 342 Dr. Karan Singh 231—245 Shri Ramanand Tiwary , 261— 271 Shri Hari Vishnu Kamath 271—284 Shri Mukunda Mandal 284— 290 Shri Kanwar Lai Gupta . 290— 303 Shri N. Tom bi Singh .. 304— 311 Shri Phirangi Prasad . 311— 319 Shri V. S. Elanchezhian . . 319— 323 Shri Bhanu Kumar Shastri . . 323— 330 Shri Jagannath Rao 330— 337 Shri Ram Vilas P a s w a n ...... 337— 342

* The siga ^marked above the name of a Member indicates that t^e Question was actua]]y tsked on the flcor c f the House by that Member. LOK SABHA DEBATES

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wsrz ^r fitrt^t «fV ^ | i (b) if so, what are they; and «n R T T R ^ %3T>fT smr (c) if not when would they be fi­ ?ft ^arf^ I ?HTT !TgHl ^!T sftr ^ ^ 3T^ THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS T ^ ?T> ?fT(TjfV I ^ ^ (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE); (a) to (c). The matter is under considera­ 5ft ^ ^ ^ 5fJT% % f w^WR tion. The decision will be taken this t ? ^ ' week.

srto i r j ^ i 7 SHRI R. K. MHALGI: May I know If ^ ?T^9^ ^ ^ H^>WT I why it has become necessary for the Ministry to formulate new no -ms and ^?RT ^ JT5 iilH'M criteria for issuing complimentary first t >TT fTT 1 class and second class railway passes? Oral Answers 7 JULY 12, 1977 Oral Answers

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: I ailRl K. LAKKAPPA; The position carefully went through the entire list about compUmentary passes has been of the complimentary passholders. I stated by the hon. Railway Minister^ am nstrained to remark this. There What I would Uke to know is this! were .noariy cases there in which these When reviewing the entire thing, wili corrolimsntar.v passes were given with­ the Government of decide to do out any specific forms. Many members away with aU sorts of complimentary of the list are mentioned as social passes so that all sorts of political w orkers and when I tried to find out patronage is stopped? thro-jgh various sources as to what type of social work those individuals PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: This are performing I failed to understand Will only mean doing equal injustice what type of social work they are to all and I don’t want to do it because doing. There was more emphasis and there are genuine cases. There are premium placed on individuals than genuine institutions. All that I can on organisations and institutions. I indicate to you is this that while fixing only wish to indicate to hon. Members up the norms for the institutions and that we are devising the norms in such the individuals. I will not be guided a way that emphasis and premium will by the political consideration at all, be placed on institutions and not on whether the Member belongs to the individuals and individuals will not be Congress Party or the Janata Party, given passes unless they have got out­ it wili be the norm that will be taken standing work to their credit in which note of and. accordingly, the passes case the passes may be of help to these will be distributed. That much individuals concerned. Otherwise it assurance I can give to the hon. Mem­ will be on the organisations and institu­ ber. tions on which we will lay emphasis. TTo TTRift : f q i Jfsfl 3ft SHRI R. K. MHALGI; How many TTTRTVirrft qr%5r ^ such passes are now in vogue class- wise? If the decision of new norms twis'jintdsf f'TiW ? WT and criteria is taken this week then Trftnr may I know whether all those compli­ mentary passes will stand cancelled? % qTOR TT ^ I ? ^ % if PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; When ^ ^ ^ ?TT^ I took over the portfolio of the Rail­ Jr ^ ^ sFqrq- f ?rr t ? way Ministry I found that 326 passes were there. Of course this excludes 5fto t complimentary pa.ss facilities given to various committee members on specific trr TT f Fsmr ^ routes or throughout the country. Mi^di I ^ When I went through the list 1 found that some of the cases were not de­ serving cases at all and I have left 5qf

SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: Sir, WITV J appreciate the assurance given by the hon. Minister to look into the matter of issuing complimentary passes. But, ^ ^ ^ ^rrfWr ^ the reports in the newspapers last fkqr «TT I w r x ^ iftfw TT month say that when the hon. Minister was in Madras, special consideration ^ ^ ?r> fqfJT TTf*r5r ^ was given to a particular Union— srnTJiT I ^ sfV qr Southern Railway Mazdoor Sangh— and two special trains were run on ?rcrw ? concessional basis to enable them to attend their meeting. Please don’t try to evade this question. % ^ I PROF. MADHUDANDAVATE; I am very glad that the hon. Member has raised the i.ssue. As far as the arrange­ ments of trains on concessional basis ^ ^ ^ ! T m ^ aft .are concerned, there are set norms. qr%5r % And, on a number of occasions, even ^rrrf^f i%tT inr ^ people attending the conference appro­ ached the Administration—they appro­ ^ ?rnr t ached in the past and they are appro­ f i t 't r t f5RT% aching now—and they wanted a certain reservation of trains. 1 can say J^hat 'Tf5H+" if ?TT I ? if the train is to be reserved, a certain amount has to be paid in advance and, SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: Sir, if that is done, we are not concerned the hon. Member is within his rights whether those booking the train belong to ask any question. Now that he is lo the trade union organisations or attributing motives to the ex-Minis­ whether they are leaSers of the R.R.S. ters. I ask (Inte rrupiioiLS). . . .please or whether they belong to the Janata listen to me. Party or Congress party and, on the basis of the records which I have gone CHOWDHRY BALBIR SINGH: There through all these concessions or faci­ is no question of motive. It is a fact. lities were given to them and, in future also, irrespective of the political com­ SHRI MOHD. SHAFI QURESHI: plexions of the persons travelling and Weil, if it is a fact, then it is all the also the complexion of the trade union more reason why I get up and say that organisations, whoever comes forward if it is a fact and if it is proved that with a demand within the framework the passes were given on certain con- of the rules, all the facilities and con­ s’deration of smuggling, I will resign cessions will be availal)le to them. or the hon. Member should resign. Is he prepared to resign? Let the Minis­ SHRI K. A. RAJAN: Is he thinking ter make a enquiry into the matter. of at least issuing one pass to one Don’t do this mud-slinging. (Lmerrvp- trade union tions). Sir, I want an enquiry to be held on this. (Interruptions). PROF. MADHU DAJIDAVATE: Un­ fortunately, there is a multiplicity of SHRI O. V. ALAGESAN: Sir, in con­ trade unions in this country and if I nection with the question that has been announce that such passes are going asked by my hon’ble friend, I would to be there, instead of unification of like to say t^at six special trains the trade union, there would be only were run for this conference and almost fragihentatlon of the trade unions. all travelled without ticket in those Therefore, I vouia not unHertake specials. Further in ordsr to enable at all. these specials to be run several goods II Oral Answers JULY 12, 1977 Oral Answers 12 trains had to be cancelled thereby (c) No, causing great loss to the railways. (d) Does not arise.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; Sir, (e) The representatives of the Asso­ I could understand if this question had ciation of Officers met me on 22nd June, been raised by a person not knowing 1977 in the presence of Chairman the railway rules. The hon. Member ONGC and they were advised to settle is very well conversant with the rail­ the issues by further discussions with way administration. As far as rail­ the Chairman of the Commission. The way employees are concerned they are Associations have also been advised to pass holders and, as such, they should submit a list of cases where they think not be put at par with the ticketless that action taken by the ONGC has not travellers. been according to rules. Grievances of Officials of O and N.G.C. sftTnTTFT: 3 5 00li'>nr»iM

Will the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state; (a) whether attention of the Govern­ STTJT ^ ^ I wh: ^ ment has been drawn to the report ^3r>prsfm>5r¥|f I if ^ ir published in ‘Times of India” (8-4-77) in regard to grievances o f about 3,500 ^ I ?r>T 1 974-77 scientists and engineers belonging to v>fl i I ^ TT5TT ^ sfhftsPT % ^rfrtT Oil and Natural Gas Commission; 9 31 srTrqT t.tt ?rnr |

(b) whether complaints have been fWrilrT if 6 04 m r I I 153.S raised about irregular promotion and ^ % frr I ^ 766 >tn^- other policies of the O & N G C; ^TTTT'T f*TO ’ETTtr I I 5ft trJT 5ft % (c) whether many qualified scien­ itnvTTf % t ^ft sft^r ?mT «r m t i ji r r tists and engineers left ONGC for want '4 of rational personnel policy; m «r %TT Jf »T ^ ^ ^ (d) if so, number of such employees ^ 5r^?rr?r 1 1 ^ ?ft zr? | who left ONGC during last three years; and fair 766 if 341 | ^ft % t ?fh: ^ 3ftf% (e) whether the Government will take necessary steps to look into the ^?rr% «r I 766if% grievances of the sctfentists and engi­ 341 ^ fr n fT H f^ ^ d't neers working with the ONGC; and if t I T # cTT? ^ ^ so, the nature of steps proposed for # wt 3rf^ ^ I the purpose? 3fr % srrf?: *nr f t THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS 4 i I I ?rnft^ ^ f (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA); (a) Yes, f%?ft qfTf^f^ Jf ^ Sir.

(b) Yes, Sir. 4 1 11 «rr? 13 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers H

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the reason for not fulfilling the agiee- But the House will rejoice that our ment? Whether attention of the hon. technicians have made an impact on Minister has been drawn to the tact their capability and the Iraqi Govern­ that several complaints have been ment had thought it fit to sign an lodged against the present Chairman in agreement for a contract for drilling. regard to his appointment? He was They say: you drill here, whether oil formerly a sugar magnate of Hydera­ comes or not we will pay you. That bad. It has been reported that although will be more than two million dollars he has been the Chairman ol the worth of contract. This will prove ONGC, he very frequently visited that if what we had done earlier in Hyderabad and instead of remaining Iraq was useless and our capabilities in his headquarters, he remained aU were not up to the mark, the Iraqi the time in Delhi. It is also brought Government would not have signed to the notice that he visited foreign this 2 million dollar contract merely countries several times. During hii to please India or the ONGC. There­ visit to foreign countries, he stayed in fore, there is no complaint about that very costly hotels where the charges particular work. I have myself talked w ere too exorbitant. M oreover vhe to the Minister of Petroleum in Iraq, Chairman was not entitled to s’ay ti it was ill-luck for both that we did not such costly hotels. These kind of alle­ strike oil at an economical well, that gations are there. As already men­ is what he said. There was no fault tioned, in regard to promotion and re­ to apportion among the persons in the cruitment policies, there are cortain ONGC. The second question is whether irregularities committed. There are I have received any complaint whether grievances of some scientists who have the chairman has connections with the put in service for 7 years have not got sugar industry or is going abroad and promotion. But there are some staff uses accommodation higgher than who have just put in ser\ice for two Or permissible limits. When Shri Samar three jrears have got promotion. I Guha raised this question, enquiries would like to know from the hon. were made and tTiey reveal that he had Minister whether he would inquire into some connection with the sugar indus­ this aspect also. try. Earlier he was in the Bhabha Atomic Research Institute and he was SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA; I am great­ selected by a large number of people. ful to Shri Samar Guha for raising I am neither giving him a certificate this question. But this question nor with holding one except saying was also raised under Unstarred that this did not appears to be of any Questions. I have already answered relevant character as to be taken notice this question. He is quite right in of in an.v manner other than answering raising this question again. This is the question in the way I have done. not germane to the issue. But since the hon. Member has raised this ques­ The third which Shri Samar Guha has tion now, I would like to say something raised was about his stay outside on that. The first question relates to the country in hotels spending amounts Iraq. iC Iraq we had a contract, it ww beyond permissible limits. That also between Iraq and India to share oil is not correct because rules lay down if oil were struck in a particular area specifically what type of accommoda­ wbi<^ according to Iraqi studies and tion in admissible to every ofOclal in a our studies, seismic survey, etc.. appear particular category,including ministers. to have oil. Iraq felt that if it yield­ Therefore, nobody can override that ed less than 2500 barrels a day the well authority and charge more. Otherwise was not an economic one. Oil was audit will come on one’s head. There truck but it was not giving more than is no audit complaint so far on that 2200 barrels a day. Therefore the Iraqis account till date and so the audit posi­ said that they were no more interested tion is not in favour of the question. in it ^nd so we had to come out of it. The final question is whether so)^ 17 Oral Answers ASADHA 21. 1899 (S/iK /.) Oral Answers l 8

people had been promoted and some ^TR5ft?T ?r 5T5^ Jr ^ others had not been promoted. Promo­ tion is done by the departmental pro- «TT *p=r?fr ?fq-5fr it ir I motion committee. Guhaji would be I firrr ff ?T7 happy to know that there had been in this particular organisation about 171 I I t 5H TT ^ DPCs during the last three years and ^ ^ 5IT

tiV sfi’ The Editor o f Oil Commentary’ is hardly a matriculate whereas persons SPR' % ^ tTT who are post-graduate and who have »Tf I I # ^ STTFTTT? taken training in England and outside are made to rot. Favouritism has been shown to him because of ministerial intervention. It iTi;iy be Shri Malavia or somebody else. The whole matter should be gone into completely. iriw w t ^ ifRFTH |WT ^ SHRI H. N. BAHUGTJNA; My hon. fiM t I JTf? ift rft friend has gone beyond the purview JPT ^ ^ t ^FPTT I of the question because ‘Oil Commenta­ ry' is not something which is produced ir v r r % | by ON (Sc. There is yet another orga­ % SRT ctfwur ^ nisation which looks after this type of ^ *rf, ? publication. I am looking into the whole organisation and my hon. friend «WT *!wt srrsr ? will be happy to learn that a couple of days ago, I haye written a note to the SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: Sir, I Secretary for the justification of the Should try to refute the allegation with continuance of the particular organisa­ iiU the emphasis at my command. This tion itself and the various persons is a dangerous type of situation. This employed there. north-south question should not be raised in these types of matters. I t 3TH5TT would ask my hen. friend, whom 1 know and whom I respect a great deal to very kindly understand that raising this type of question causes more 5 r r f ^ rr«rr harm thiin any good to the whole coun­ try. 5FT 5Tf^9T?r | 19 Oral Answejs JULY 12, 1977 Oral Answers 20

fertilizer plant in the State of Assam based on the gas available from oil *Fts ^ ^ m r t ? fields of Oil India Limited and ONGC. Details regarding the location, the size «ft| *T ^ 5T?TT «5»pn : ITF 3Tf of the plant, etc., are being worked out and a final decision is expected to ^ |T7 ^ I ^ ^ ?m:er>r ^ft become available shortly. The cost ^ I I will be related to the size ol the plant ^ ^iT ftpft % ^ ?n> and. hence, it is not possible to give an estimate of the cost, at this stage. ^ fJT #jf I *rq-^ *Twrarir^ qr ^ ^ ^sTwrar ^ grr % SHRI NIHAR LASKAR; This is no doubt a welcome decision, but there •PfT «rr w ^Tnr%' ^ ^ ^wr are one or two points I want to ask. in-I if fiRT% May I know when this proposal was %% 11 fTT ?Rn: ^ sntnrr taken up and why there is so much of delay in coming to a final decision? ?ft % *Td I irfginT ^ For sites selection, may I know what ^ jR' ^i>-sl‘*f HT^nr procedures you have followed? S17T f^ f a r ?m7 sm "m ^ SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA; My diffi­ avcTV i=n:^f^^;CTxhrif^qiff% so culty is, I have still to learn the way ?fr>ff ^ %JTT I of repl.ying in relation to the past go\’^ emment as some of my colleagues do. All I can say is, I have processed the ftraftr Hm ; t ?r^ ^rpprr matter faster than perhaps expected. 'il^d I g f^?ff ot^R’ o^fr o^H«x:<.iiH- The thing is cleared in the sense that ^ «R ^TrTRT | I we are committed to doing it in this plan period. We have determined the total amount of gas available. We are a g W I determined to put up a plant of a parti­ ^ I I f^T iPT cular size to suit the gas availability. m F \ % ?TF?r,^ ^ t I The detailed working has to be done and that has been ordered. We are not delaying it a day more than Setting up of a fertilizer plant in necessary. Assam

•429. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: WiU SHRI NIHAR LASKAR: What posi­ the Minister of PETROLEUM AND tive procedures have you taken up for CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be the site selection? pleased to state: SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: About the (a) whether Government are consi­ site, in all probability it will be almost dering a proposal to set up a fertili­ the same as the present two plants— zer plant in the State of Assam; one is 600 tonnes and the other 200 (b) if so, when the final decision is tonnes^Namrup. likely to be taken; and SHRI BEDABRATA BARUA; This (c) what will be the expenditure was under consideration during the involved? previous regime also, this is a con­ tinuation of what Mr. Malaviya has THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, done. The actual amount of gas that AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS is flared off is very large. I would like (SHHI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) l>o (c). to know if the government’s instruction Yes, Sir. It is proposed to set up a is that the project will be such that a 21 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 2 2 m ajor amount of gas is really used up. nftx 5tt%^ ^ If not. may I know whether there are any private applications for licences to mW ^ ^ 'T?^T I ^ use the other gas which is stili going ^r??Tr ^ I waste? SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Are you SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA; The ques­ using indigenous technology or entering tion of giving it to private companies into foreign collaboration for this? does not arise. We have decided to put up our own plant. All the gas avail­ able from different sources will be ?ftT % afhrt^^TrfTTt brought by pipe to Namrup and the plant will be put up at Namrup. The *4 3 0 . TTtnnft : sprr ^ free gas which we have located plus 4dH ^ : the gas we are flaring does not appear N to be more than what will be consum­ ed by 600 tonne capacity plant. I am (^ ) »reJT 'R ^ wishing to put up a 900 tonne plant % ^ ftRRV irr^ ^iif^qt 1 5fk w hich is n-.ore economic. But the w hole ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ w t gas available does not appear to be presently more than 600 tonnes. There­ I « f k fore. perhaps only a 600 tonne plant will come up. There is no question of its being given to any private sector company. ?TT??T qr ^ jtI in ^ 5FT ^ sR^rrsr | ? ^rto a^>i9 T : ^cntrir f% W (sfto : ( ^ ) ( ^ ) . fsrr^Tir ?r»Tr tt: w

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^ JPT m r^ rfwr grr f^T f*ft ;m *432. CHOWDHRY BALBIR ^ ?frT m^rfiT?T Wr?jTT f I SINGH; Will the Minister of PETRO­ LEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FER­ ^ i n f ^ TILIZERS be pleased to state: % ^ t. ^ ?nw, (a) whether an agreement has re­ »WTf^ % t, ^ ^ *r cently been signed with USSR for f t r JPTT I I ^f supply of crude oil; ^ ^ i^‘f ^ ^ wtt m% (b) whether the price to be paid for "3^ ^ ^ ^ ti*-!)'*? ^r crude is higher as compared to the price charged by other countries; and q^ f^gr, ^ ^ ^ sr?^ ^ "js m f% fTO% T^rnr ^rrair ^r (c) If so. the reasons therefore? 39 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 30

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, 'chem icals and FERTILISERS ^ »TT?r (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) to (c). ^ ^ «rr 1 ^ ^ ^ cTT^ft 5F fh r Under the bilateral trade arrangement t , «P> I , ^ ^ J T^ between India and U.S.S.K. a ('ontract ^ ^ f t ^nfft ?T^ was signed between the Indian Oil Corporation and ‘SOJUZNEETEEX- f^iTTw q x^fw l I ^ ??T^ irnr PORT of Soviet Union on 21-2-1977 for 5Tf)f g^TT T f T f ^ ?TT^ ^ 5 T | fti supply of 1 million tonnes of crude oil during 1977. It would not be in the *THT% t I commercial interest of the Indian Oil Corporation to disclose further details. Construction of New Railway l ini from Bankura to Mejia

iH '(I'Jl I ^ f n I *433. DR. BUOY MONDAL; Will the «fh: iT f »rr?r w r i Minister of RAILWAYS be pleased to sta te; i f ir fh n T ^ f^ irr |

ftp Jif ^ itft qr: w r , (aj the progress made in the cirec- tion of construction of the new Rail­ ^■cTTJTT T f s ^ i f 5 1 ^ t I ^ way line between Bankura and RIejia ^ T7 qr «TT ^ in West Bengal which was decided to be taken in hand by the Ministry ia ^■iew of the fine coal-belt discovered in ^ ^ the area; ^ \ Z T ITT ^ ?ffT ?fr «ft (b) whether the work of the survey ^ fjRT% if ?T wmrr ^ ^ I JTf has been completed, and if so, v/hen ^ if ?fr the actual work of having the rail lines is to be taken up; and fif TcTT ?TW =?T^ I ^ 5ft ^ (c) w hether any estimates have been made and if so, what are they ant^ in what stages the work is likely to be completed? : *rT?zr^

^ ^ 5T^ t ^IIKT ^ qr THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS ZT? ^ 'k T |l ^ 3Tf? (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) to (c). A Final Location Tratfic-cum- ^iTT^T »T5T^T ?T ^ »TWcT Engineering Survey for construction ol 3HT q f^ t I ^ if a rail link between Bankura and Mejia is nearing completion. The estimate will be processed after completitm of if 1 5 *TT^ iT^ % ^ s m ’it I the survey. A decision regarding 5pT ^ ’STT^ f JT^ ^TT^r construction of the line will be taken after the survey is completed and the t I t !TT^ if f?r% reports examined. i ?r»R im cT^t iT^ ^nn ^ 5tt I I DR. BUOY MONDAL: In case the coal mines start working, as program­ med. and if the construction of the ^wftr RT5:im?raT^ffysn- railway line is not completed in time, earlier than the exploration of the coal ^TT?T ^ I ^ ^ fields, do as the Minister propose to ^r ITT 55TT^ ? have consultations with the Ministry 31 Oral Answem JULY 12, 1977 Oral Answers 3» of Coal and Mines to have alternalive This question relates to the intro­ arrangements for the transportation of duction of additional railway trains nnd coal? stops which happened six .nonths ago. It is not a matter of urgent importance. PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE- As far as this line is concerned, its im­ Moreover, Rule No. 41(xii) says very portance grows because it is in the clea rly; vicinity of those regions where coal “it shall not repeat in substance deposits are to the extent of 180 inillion questions already answered or to tonnes and they are to be exploited thoroughly. Not only that. One of which an answer has been refuse:!.” the additional reasons is that if this So. two points arise. One is the roDte is constructed, it will also help urgency of the matter. This thing in the development of the Adivasi happened six months ago. V^hat is areas which are in the vicinity. the urgency about it now? Morfovjr, Therefore, taking the cumulative effect during the Railway Debate and daring ol both the factors into account, our the Question Hour itself the same present thinking is that would be question has been raised about the inclined to take up this construction introduction of trains between Varanasi work, but we have to await ihe s’.;rvey and other places and additional stops, The survey has to be examined, imd and answers have been ,»iven. You only after can we proceed with the can go through the records. construction work. But I ran assure the hon. Member that all the nei-essary With your permission. T may also steps will be taken. read out an ordinary question which has been rejected: MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Question H our Over. “Whether the Government has withdrawn the cases of ronuption RE; SHORT NOTICE QUESTION against Shri Prakash SinKh Badal, the Minister of Agriculture" MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Short Notice Question. MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER Offler order.

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: On a point SHRi VAYALAR RAVI; Such an Of order. Rule No. 54(1) reads' ordinary question has been rejected stating that it is a State .'lubject. At “A question relating to t matter of the same time, this kind of question public importance may be asked with i.s accepted. How can there be two notice shorter than ten clear days rules? ’ and if the Speaker is of opinion that the question is of an urgent character he may direct that an enqairy may PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE; be made frm the Minister concerned May I be permitted to make a sub- if he is in a position to reply and. mi.ssion on the point of order? if so, on what date.” SHRI VASANT SATHE: The question of urgency has to be decid­ Sub-rule i?) of the same rule says; ed by the Speaker. “In other respects, the •,'.rr''’edure for short notice questions shall be the 3HRI M. KALYANASUNDARAM: same as for ordinary qupsrion? for While allowing Short Notice orpl answer, with such modiflcatlons Questions, the Speaker should also as the Speaker may coniider neces­ take care to see that the question is sary or convenient.” proper and urgent and of considera­ 33 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, IfiSS {SAKA) Oral Answers 34

ble public importance. On much Mr. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: It is no more important matters like atroci­ point of order. You kindly sit down. ties on Harijans, Short Notice Ques­ tions were talsled from this side and SHRI C. M. STEPHEN: The point ■those questions were never allowed. of order is whether this matter is a That is my point. You are partial matter of urgent importance. Please in allowing Short Notice Questions. see Rule 54 clause 5. The rule says: I charge the Speaker with partiality. “Where a member desires an (Oral answer to a question at a MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER: You shorter notice, he shall briefly should not make an allegation state the reasons for asking the against the Speaker. ■question with short notice. W here no reasons have been assigned in the notice of the question, the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS question shall be returned to the (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): m em ber.” Sir, I want to make a submission on this. Already various committees Therefore the burden of my s\ib- are on the job to fix up the time­ mission is that the short notice ques­ table and to fix up norms for the tion has an exceptional procedure— introduction of new stops and dis­ the exceptional procedure to be re­ continuation of some old stops. And sorted to only if there is an abundant there are a large number of Members specification and in order to under­ on both sides—I can quote their line this, the rules say that there names—who have written to me that must be reasons spelt out. If the certain new stops must be introduc­ reasons are not spelt out, the ques­ ed and certain old stops must be dis­ tion has to be returned. There continued. To all of them I have comes the question of judgment. told that this is an urgent problem But what is the urgency today to and within one week, we are going bring this matter which took place to d^al with the problem and I will six months before (Interruptions) consult vnrioiis members. There are certain traditions and because there MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER; Please is an urgency to fix up the new sit down. You have made your ■time table and fix up norms for the point. I have heard your point of introduction of new ■^tops and dis- oo

Statem ent The following stopjjoges of trains were provided on an experimental basis in March, 1977 : —

Particulars of trains Name of station Date from where stoppage which stopp­ provided age provi­ ded

1. 88 Patna-Tatanagar South Bihar Express • Barh. 28-2- 77. 2. 87/88 Patna-Tatanagar South Bihar Express Jamtara 16- 3-77. 3. 103/104 Howrah-New Delhi AC Express ■ Jasidih ro -3 -7 7 . 4. 9/10 Howrah-Dehradun Exp. • • • Kudra ri-3-77- 5. 9/10 Howrah-Dehradun Exp. • • • Babatpur 8-3- 77. 6. 2 Kalka-Delhi-Howrah Mail • • • Bhabua Road 14-3-77- 7. I /2 Kalka-Delhi- Howrah Mail • ■ Phaphund 16- 3-77. 8. 81/82 Howrah-New Delhi AC Exp. • • Sasaram 14-3-77- 9. 3/4 Howrah-Bombay Mail • ■ ■ Saidraja 18- 3- 77. to. 135/136 Patna- Pass. • • • Bahora Chandil ^1 - 1 - 1 1 - 11. 13/14 Sealdah-Dclhi Upper India Exp>ress Salcaldiha 18- 3-77- 12. 13/14 Sealdah-Dclhi Upper India Express Chaukhandi 14- 3- 77- 13- 39/40 Howrah-Delhi Janata Exp. • Kuchman 18- 3- 77^ 14* 39/40 Howrah-Delhi Janata Exp. • Dhcena 17-3-77- 15. 39/40 Howrah-Delhi Janata Exp. • Mandrak 15- 3- 77- *6. 351/352 Saharanpur- Passenger Harchandpur 8- 3- 77- r?- 331/352 Saharanpur-Allahabad Passenger Lalgopalganj 8- 3-77. *8. 351/352 Saharanpur-Allahabad Passenger Atrampur 8 -3 -7 7 , 19. 5/6 Howrah-Amritsar Mail • • Amethi 8- 3- 77. 20. 161/162 Tatanagar-Amritsar Express Manda Road 15- 3-77 21. 161/162 Tatanagar-Amritsar Express Phaphund 16- 3-77. 22. 17/18 Siliguri-Agra Fort Vaishali Express Rudain 2 8 -2 -77. 23. 83/86 New Delhi-Barauni Assam Mail Phaphund 16-3-77. 24. 51/52 Sealdah-Jammu Tawl Exp. • Katahri I7-3-77- 25. 17/18 Siliguri-Agra Fort Vaishali Express Bankata 1 - ^ - n - 26. 17/18 Siliguri-Agra Fort Vaishali Express Agsauli 14- 3-77- 27. 4 7/4 'i Gorakhpur- Shane-e-Avad Express Ccilonelganj 15-3-77- 2S. 5'6 G )rakhpur-Allahabad City Triveni Express Bhulanptir Halt 29. 55/56 Farukhabad-Kjuipur Exp. • • Mani Mau 17-3 -7 7- 30. 49/50 Gorakhpur-Allahabad City ■ Salempur 5 -3 -7 7 - 37 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, 1899 (SAKA) Oral Answers 38'

(c) And (d>. On consideritioits of what yardstick wa« used. But since traffic juBtifiaatioa and ratfagMt to within such a- ilbtt duratira availability q£ requisite resources, the of time they gave the in«t«jction» to loflovfrfhg addlti6hal trains were in- introduce these 30 additional stops trdduc« to/from Varaiiaw:— which has never happened the past, and even now it is not happening, these 1. 157/158 New Delhi-Varanasi stops siwe introduced indisc-iniir-ate- Kashi Vishwanath Express ly. G«nerally, when the suggesiions (daily) from 30- 3- 1975 . for introducing new stops come up, we are required to examine the problem. 2. 165/156 Ahmedabad-Faiisabad/ We send it to the Department concern­ ' Varanasi Sabarmati Exp. (5 ed. We are required to find out what days upto Faizabad and 2 is the traffic available at thft parti­ days upto Varanasi) Ixom 28-1-1978. cular station. Therefore, fully pro­ bably realising that this was an in­ 3. 139/140 Madras Beach-Vara- discriminate step, the suggestion was nasi Ganga Cauvery Exprt-ss that, as an experimental measure ^ (Biweekly) from 16-2-1977. try all the 30 stops or halts.

4. 107/108 Jhansi-Varanasi/Mugh- alsarai Bundelkhand Express I would like to inform the House (daily) from 1-3-1977. that the very fact that these stops were introduced indiscriminately is 5. 49/50 Gorakhpur-Varanasi/ borne out by the fact tliat when Allahabad city Purvanchal afterwards all the experts and the Express (daily) from 1- 1­ various Department heads went inta 1976 (M G ). the examination of all the stops, ttiey were forced to discontinue 13 stops 6. 83/84 Delhi-Lucknow Express im m ediately.. Only 10 s

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t^*To 'fbro I I R ^ ;t trjTo ifhTo ^ SHRI KAN WAR LAL GUPTA: The hen. Minister has stated th^c he has 3ft a t ^ #jttt ftRT I ft: deleted some stops. He should not delete the name of Amethi because % ? r r ir that is also a place of pilgrimag?. That v u ^ ff ^ % ?rnr% i is my request to him. S' i^»ro "ft^o ifft fwfww sfritfein %

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j h :# 1w 3iT?r>TT ITT ? rft 1 t n i ^ r i r PROF. iMADHU DANDAVyvP’ : l,et there be no misunderstanding. As it eriT ff^Ti i f * r i t as my question is concernsil, I liave received mostly from this side of the mfjT^rn % 5T% ^iff ^ jf! ITT^ % House seven Short Notice QJcMir.ns, I ^FT SXTR it m ^JT JTifST'JT ^"T have rejected six; I have accepted only =gr^fiTW:TT I sort of things happening, at lea?t he or the Janata Party will not misuse any power. In this connection, I would ^ it ^TTifi^ like to know from the hon. Minister ^T I, t STTT^T =^^T f whether it is not a fact that when he was travelling—^because Mr. P-.ij % crn; % JTT^T^^T JTTJ^zff TT?r ^ Narain happens to be the Minister be­ ^?TT^ ?rtT ^TT^ »:^'T TTir % fore he became the Minister, he used 3TT^ it ^ ^STTW I I i t ^ to say that the Ministers were misusing their power—from Varanasi to Delhi, w^nr-^r^nr Jr ’sr^sr'f — s t ^tt- for him, for the sake of Mr. Raj 41 Oral Answers ASADHA 21, 1899 {SAKA) Oral Answers 43

f^arain, the train was detained lor half an hour? I 3Tf?r ^ mfsqf ^ft {Interruption^) f ^ »RT PROF. MADHU DANDAVATP;. I I I want to refresh the m em or/ of the hon. Member that this issue was raised in the House in the form .-)1 a que£ii:jn. ^ ^ ^ i (Interruptions) This issue was alieany f ^ iqi ^ raised in the other House. This ques- IHR STf «fV if 3ft I lon was already raised aiul ) have given a categorical answer. I have said that partly due to mechanical fault,, but largely (Interruptions). Please listen fo me. I ' ;we said that t||jttSTJR-^ % r«i^Ria)'T t • this 15 minutes duration (train dcUiin- ed) may be due to vacuum fault in ihe sfto sriR vTPpfhr coach. But I have said that m.iinly the detention was due 1o Shri U.ij Narain who was suppose i travel by the train. I said, this is a wroi.g fr^TPTT =5TT^ ^ ?nR g?TT?r thing which has happened. I express my unqualified regret to the House, and I give an assurance to thi House ’h;a. ^ ^ in future, not only for Ministers but ft[trr t ^ Th u, ^ for any VIP or any other Member, jnrrTTT I such a contingency will never arise. That is the categorical assurance I wish to give. «Tt 5TOt 5 ^ : fqT5% ITT ^ ^ cTTTt^ 3 1 1 ^ DR. SUBRAMANIAM SvVAMY: Obviously, with Ihis "tind of ad hi. c ?T>T 7 00 ’TTfWf ^ ^ ^ and haphazard introductio.i of slops, Iff I JTW ^ the Railways must have made a net ^ f w I I ?HR loss. I would like to ask the Minister whether the Railway Ministry is ini­ f^lT I ?r»R ^ ^ tf^TT tiating action to estimate the extent of rft ^ loss and also to make avail li.le to this House the exact amount the country has lost by this process. 5ft^ ?rt ^ ^ ^ w m 9Tf^jrr iRT I 5RT^3T ^ PROF. MADHU DANDAVAIE. We in »T ^ 121TIT 5Ft ^ are opposed to all ad hocl'<' i,whether they are ad hoc appointments or ad-hoc ^ I I f^TT ^ ?RTTTriT !5tops. Therefore, ad hoc'.

As far as the second aspe'.'t of the question is concerned, we will plaice he. t ? fore the House what exa'-t.’y are Ihe financial losses that have Keen incurr­ ed as a result o f this. SJ>o HW ; t ^ if ^ iRTRT g fip 27^ % ?TT»T% rft ^ ^ »FtT ^ 5T^, ?r

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^ fqST ^ f w f t jftJRT 'TT came from Hon. Members like Shri f* w r v?;JTr i Jyotirmoy Bosu. Of course, though he belonged to the Opposition, I think he had a bigger voice than many a ^3" *T? I fsr^ |f?r fTT ruling Party Member! Anyway, I will look into it and if we find that far^ fw t ^ ^ 'T ^ it fits into the norms we are going q r ^JTTff TOT I ^ srr^ H to decide upon we will take a deci­ ^rnr^TRt ^ | i ?r>n: « m sion accordingly, 'SffTfcT fqjT 7? 9R g?rr ? ifT SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Two ^qrfT f? jn I Jf 3T? ^ cm r ir f .-special trains were running to Erna- ''kulam, not for the passengers but for ’ I I the RSS volunteers who were attend­ ing a meeting there- and for the RSS «ft iT5f) ^ % ?r^'r leaders. They never paid any »noriey, I ft: 3 0 mr ^ but t f'se trains w ere run, blocking the entire route. So, such .special ^ % jnr, ^ it ^ f ® ^'i ttt favouritism ha.s been shown to the f^Jir ^iTT ^ ?»->T 31^ iV ^|?IT ^ Janata Party and its para-militarv ft |, cTT ilt 'if)' rft^ ?2T^ force.s. May I know how many com- Dlaints were received about these «r t ftfr ittt f . thirty stoppages involved? fq r *rPT?rlq- jt^'T ^'r cf^ PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: As T#ir JTt ^ % ZT5 ^ far as these thirty stoppages are con­ ^ ?T jfrTT ? cerned, people had voiced their grie­ vances publicly.

a to *T^ ^l*r%: ?ITT 2f f ^r»T + ’ ^RT As repards the second i.ssue raised, t 3t> ?T f%qr t # only some time back I had darified that there will be no distinction so ?rrn ft ^i+^'f r^’JiNi ^ ftr iim+T far as the facility of special trains ^ wiT?fr are concerned. Whether they helon" to the Congress Party or RSS or the ^ ir t f « ’?rrK ??t sr^ ^ ?r ?n T. ade Union Congress or the Hindu 5rr(T ^ t ?i't ?TFr% Maha Sabha, special facilities ■’/ill he , g?nT % 3(77 ^ ^ 5t w available to them on the basfs of df-finite norms to bo fixed up. *T?TTf ^

SHlil JYOTIRMOY BOSU: Will the WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUES­ Hon. Minister kindly tell us whether TIONS the former Minister of Railways was requested to introduce two stops in Miabhoy Railway Labour Tribunal Shralda Division, South Section, near Award Taliganj Bridge and Dakuria Lake, but because the request came fiom *426. SHRI KRISHNA K U T T A R the Opposition Members it was turn­ GOYAL: Will the Minister of RAIL­ ed down? If it is so, will he look WAYS be pleased to state: into the matter and take a fresh deci­ sion? fa) whether the Miabhoy Railway Labour Tribunal award relating to PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE: First­ hours of employment has been fully ly, I have no information as to v/he- implemented; ther the request for introduction of these stops was rejected because it (b) if sp, the details thereof; end 45 Written Answers ASADIJA 21, 1899 iSAKA) Written Answers 46

(c) the increase .in expenditure as issued, arc in the process of imple­ b result thereof? mentation as indicafted in the State­ ment placed On the Table of the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS S»bha. (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). Necessary orders, already (c) About Rs. 19 crores per annum.

Statement

Subject of the Tribunal’s recjmmEndation Present position as regards implementation

1. Hours of employment shall be those during which an employee is at the disposal of his employer at the lattcr’s instance.

2. M')r.Ti3lly the daily and weekly hours of employment of Continuous and Essentially Intermittent workers should he Orders have been issued fix'.'d at 8 a day or 48 a week. that these recommendations should be implemented with 3. D lily ..nd w,-ekly h iirs of Ess ntii liy In ormi?tcj t work­ V effect from 1-8-74. ers may b ’inccas d'o the ex in 111 ctssary but ao exceeding th'.- limits laid down by the- T il al ’

4. Time r;quired for preparatory and'or co:nplementary work, which includes taking and making over charge shouJd be deter­ mined and included in the roster.

5. Averaging should be doiu' in regard to (i) running staff; '(/) operating staff; (iV/) shift workers; and (iv) those workers whose work is bound up with the work of workers comprised in the ab.ive three categories. Cases lalling in category (ir) should be determined. ^ These are in the process < f implementation. 6. Overtime should be paid at i j timi.'s the ordinary rate for work done beyond rosiered h;>urs up to statutory limits and iwice the ordinary rate beyond the statuti'ry limits.

7. Time spent for travelling sp;ire on duly should be consi- •dered as part o f duty except (i) when crew van facility has been provided and (1/1 when the worker does not travel on any day beyond R Kms.

8. Class‘C’ Gatemen, Saloon Attendants, Caretakers of Rost Houses and Re>ervoirs etc. and Bungalow Peons should be reciic- sified as Essentially Intcrmitteni w;'rkers. (implementat'on date i-S-74') These reconimendatipns have been generally 9. Posts of Continuous Wireless Operators and Section Con­ implemented on railways. trollers should be job-analysed and up-graded as Intensive wher­ ever justified, giving effect to the up gradation from 1-8-73 1-8-74 respectively.

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In addition, two major petrochemi­ JFlr i r k ^ ^ 5fT^ cal projects— IPCL’s Naphtha Cracker and its downstream units at Baroda f ^ ^ F , T n I and BRPL’s Petrochemical Complex at Bongaigaon, both in Public Sec- tf;r—are under implementation. (*r) ®T€t

♦rr?^ v r iffr it «i‘? ^ *pt ^ The demand for various petrochemi­ cal items suffered a set back due to JRrTR ^ % I price hike of these products follow­ ing the oil crises. Demand for tnese Plan to set up a Petro-Chemical items is however, now gradully pick- Complex on the basis of Mathura ng up. Pending the commissioning Refinery nf the Petrochemical units under cons­ truction particularly IPCL’s Naphtha *436. SHRI SATISH A G A R V /A L: Cracker and its downstream un;t‘, Will the Minisier of PETROLEUM the temporary shortages which are AND CHEMICALS AND FERTI­ ir.arginal and vary from time to time LIZERS be pleased to state: aro being met through imports.

(a) whether there is a plan lo (c) No, Sir. up a fetro-chem ical complex on the basis oi the Mathura Oil Refinery; jf so, when will it be finalised; Introduction of Rayalaseema Express from Tirupathi to Hyderabad (b) how many such complexes are running in the country at present, *4;j7. SHRI P. RAJAGOPAL what is the extent of shortage of NAIDU: Will the Minister of RAIL­ products being produced by them and WAYS be pleased to state; how are they being met; and (a) whether there is any proposal (c) whether Government propose with the Government to introduce to locate the new complex in the Rayalaseema Express on the broad nearby areas of Rajasthan? gauge from Tirupathi to Hyderabad: and THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, fb) if so, when it is likely to be CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS implemented? (SHRI H. N. B A H U G U N A ): (a) There is no plan for the present to T^iE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS set up a Petrochemical Complex on (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): the basis of Naphtha to be available (a) Yes, Sir. from Mathura Refinery. (b) The proposal is s^Hl under con­ (b) At present the following major sideration. Petrochemical projects are in opera­ tion in the country:— Oil exploration of On-shore areas by (i) Aromatics Project of IPCL at Foreigm countries Baroda. ♦438. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN: Will (ii) NOCIL's Naphtha Cracker at the Minister of PETROLEUM AND Bombay. CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: (iii) Union Carbide’s Napluha Cracker at Bombay. (a) whether Government have allo­ cated certain on-shore areas for oil (iv) PRC’s Kureha Cracker at exploration to some foreign countries- Tirunelveli. during last six months; and 51 Written Answers JULY 12. 1977 Written Answers 52

(b) if so, the names of such coun- (b ) if so, what steps have been tres along with terms and conditions taken to overcome the crisis? in regard thereto?

THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS THE MINISTER OF PETROLiiUM, (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (a) Yes, Sir. (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) and (b). No, Sir. The ONGC, how­ ever, has secured the services of M/s. (b) Due to high prices of timber Chemocomplex of Hungary on Lon- in the market, the Kerala State Foro>t tract, for drilling a deep well at Deptt.—the main suppliers to Olavak- Ramshahr in Himachal Pradesh. The kot Plant—have expressed then .aabi- Contractor will be paid a remunera­ 1 ty to supply sleepers to the Railways tion of Rs. 18,000 for each day of at prices fixed by the- Central IJoard cj-'evatior for minimum pe'iod oi 100 01 Forestry. The Ministry of Agri­ days. Total expenditure on this ser- culture & Irrigation has been request­ virr contract is expected to be aioand ed lo convene the Pricing Sub-Com- Rs. 56 lakhs. m ttoe meeting immediately .so that tiies*^ prices could be reviewed, puiti- ciil.i'ly for supplies from Kerala. Irreg:alarities by the Multinational Efrcris are also under way to get Drug Companies supplies, from Andaman S: Nicobar '439. DR. BAPU KALDATY: Will Islandr. for the Olavakkot Plant. the Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS l-e pleased to state- Railway link between Rishikesh and (a) whether Government have KarnaprayaR noticed recently certain irre^ala’ itias by the multinational companies ope­ *441. SHRI JAGANNATH SHAK^MA; rating in India for the manufacture Will the Minister of RAILWAYS be of drugs in respect of maintcnancr of pleaded to state; records under company law and rules; (a) whether any survey had been (b) if so, the details thex-of; nnd made in the past for providing a Railway link between Rishikesh and (c) whether any of the druj units Karnaprayag; under multinationals hag been order­ ed to wind up its business in India? (b) if so, whether Government THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM. have taken any decision in the matter; CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZEKS and (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) ic) whether Government propose to (c). Information is bein^ collected to make a fresh survey of the «h«ve and will be laid on the Table of the House. Projcct? '

THE MINISTER OF RAILV7AYS Crisis in Creosote Plant at Olavakkot (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE); •440. SHRI P. K. KpDIYAN: Will (a) and (b). A survey earned out the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ during 1927 revealed that the cost of ed to state: this 160 kms. lonj; line even as nar­ row gauge wouia oe prohibitive and (a) whether the creosote plant zi the project was, therefore, abandoned. Olavakkot is facing a crisis for want 01 sufficient sleepers; and (c) No, Sir. 53 Written Answers ASADHA 21. Ifi99 (SAKAJ Written A iders 54

' Import of Fertilizers Avendmeiit to the Coii9t)t«tion ( 43iid Aivendment) Act •442. SHRI DH A RA M A V IB / VASISHT: Will the Minister of ‘ 443. PROF. P. G. M AVALA:CKAR; PETROLEUM AND CHEM1CA1..S Will the Minister of LAW, JUSTICK AND FERTILIZERS be pleased to AND COMPANY AFFAIRS pleas­ state: ed to state:

(a) the foreign exchange spent in (a) whether Government propost importing fertilizers in the last three I0 bring forward during the current >ears; and Buaget session the Constitution Am­ endment Bill removing the grave (b) the date by which India hopes deformities, defects and distortions of tj be self-sufficient in the production the Constitution already brought anout of fertilizers? I y the 42nd Constitution Amendment /ict; and

THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, (b ) If so, when? CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA); (a) A statement ib laid -on the Table of THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ tlie House. TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN;: (a) .(b) The requirements of Potash No, Sir. :” -i' met entirely through impiwtt, as there is no indigenous proluc'.ion r'f (b) Does not arise. Pola.ih within the country.

A large scale programme for setting; Keauireroen,ts, production and import up additional capacity for the manu­ o f Crude Oil in 1977-78 facture- of fertilizers is under imr-le- mentation. With the completion of '444 SHRI M. RAM GOPAL this programme, the gap between REDDY: Will the Miniscer of PKT, production and consumption is expect­ KOLEUM AND CHEMICALS AND ed to about 32 lakh tonnes o' Nitro- FERTILIZERS be pleased to state: «en and 6 lakh tonnes of P20,') in 3 983-84. Action Is being taken to set (a) whut is the total requr>'em( nt up further capacity to reduca this gyp of crude oil of the country du.-ing and move towards self-suHiciency. tlie year 1977-78; and

(b) what is the total indigenou, Statem ent output of oil in the country? The foreign exchange spent on im­ port of fertilizers during the last three THE MINISTER OF PETROLEUM, ?/ears was approximately as fol­ CHEMICALS AND FERTILIZERS lo w ?:— (SHRI H. N. BA H U G U N A ): (a) The total requirement jf crude o'l nf Year Expendi­ the country during the year r)7i-78 ture is expected to be of the order of 25.5 (US in million) milhon tpnnes. (b) The total indigenous production 1974-75 661‘00 of crude oil in the country d'jring the current financial year is expected 1975-76 892-00 to be 11.3 million tonnes including a T9 76-77 249-00 quantity of 2.5 million tonnes from Bombay High. 55 Written Answers JULY 12. 1977 Written Answers 5^

Plan aUocatlon for development of (b) whether these facilities are not narrow-rause lines into broad sauge provided to the research gcholars who in Madhya Pradesh are dependent members of railway em ployees; 3147. SHRI MADHAVRAO (c) if so, the reasons therefor; and SCINDIA: Will the Minister of RAIL­ WAYS be pleased to state: (d) whether it is proposed to extend the facilities to dependent research (a) whether Government propose scholars of railway employees? to review the plan allocation lor the development of narrow-gauge '■ailAray THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS line into broad gauge especially of (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): Central and South-East railways (a) Privilege passes/PTOs are is.iued covering Madhya Pradesh; and to the family members and Jepend- en« of railway em ployees, as defined (b) if so, details thereof? in the Pass Rules, on the scale appli­ cable to each class of employees from THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS time to time. (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): (a) and (b). A review of the Annual (b) Sons/daughters of Railway em­ Plan for 1977-78 has been completed ployees, who are engaged in the re­ recently before presenting the Budjjet search work, are issued passes, pro­ for the current year to the Parlia­ vided they are not in receipt of any ment. A further review is not pro­ .stipend or scholarship. posed to be taken up immediately. (c ) and (d). Do not arise.

Foad For Road Over-Bridres and Proposal to Review the Performance Sub-W ays of Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices Commission 3148. SHRI PU N D ALIK HARI DANVE: Will the Minister of RAIL­ 3151. SHRI K. M A LLA N N A : W ill WAYS be pleased to state the ;imount the Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND lying in the fund for road over­ COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to state: bridges and sub-ways at present' (a) whether Government propose THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS to review the performance of the (PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE): Monopolies and Restrictive Trade An amount of Rs. 11 crores (Approx.) Practices Commission with a view to is the current balance in the Railway making it more effective; and Safety Works Fund. It is expected to go up to Rs. 12.80 crores by the (b) if so, the details in this regard? end of the current financial year. THE MINISTER OF LAW JUS­ TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIRS lUflwftT Faeilitles to R«fle»ivh Scho­ (SHRI SHANTI BHUSHAN): (a> lar Of Railway Kmployeeir’ Depen­ Yes, Sir. dents (b) A High Powered Expert Com­ 3150. SHRI DU RGA CHAND: W ill mittee has been constituted recently the Minister of RAILWAYS be pleas­ by the Government to review the ed to state: provisions of the Companies Act, nnd the M.R.T.P. Act, including the work­ (a) whether railway facilities inclu­ ing of the M.R.T.P. Commission. The ding free tickets are provided to the said Committee has been isked to family members of the railway em­ report as to what chances are neces­ p loyee.; sary in the said Acts. 5 7 'Written Answers A SA D H A 21, 1899 (SAKA) Written Answers 58 I Swadeshi Cotton Mills Co. Ltd., Kan- unauthorised occupants of railway pnr quarters?

3152. DR. B. N. SINGH: W ill the THE MINISTER OF RAILWAYS Minister of LAW, JUSTICE AND (PROF, MADHU DANDAVATE): COMPANY AFFAIRS be pleased to (a) Shri P, N. Jagota, Instructor, state: Divl. Traffic Training School, Allaha­ (a) whether in view of the grave ac­ bad had occupied one Room in Qr. No. counting and financial irregularities 133 A.B.C. of Personnel Branch pool committed by the management of the from 1- 6-66 till 31-8-76 with the con­ Swadeshi Cotton Mills Co. Ltd., Kan­ sent of the previous occui>ant but pur, Government propose to order a without oflRcial permission. From special audit of the accounts of the 1 -9-76 he has been officially allotted Company in pursuance of the provi­ that room. sions of Section 233A of the Compa­ nies Act, 1956; and (b ) Yes.

(b) if so, when? (c) A recovery of Rs. 71.20 p.m. towards arrears is being made from the em ployee and a sum o f Rs. 481.70 THE MINISTER OF LAW, JUS­ P, has so far been recovered. TICE AND COMPANY AFFAIHS (SHRI SHANTI BHUStfAN): ( r) (d) No, in view of the allotment and (b ). There is no such r>roposal having been regularised in his. favour at present- However, upon •’oniidor- from 1-9-76. ing the irregularities etc. noticed on the basis of an inspection of the books: News Re: Million Dollar Pay-Offs to of account the Company Law Board Cochin Refineries have issued a notice to the company under section 408(1) of the Companies 3154, DR. RAM.II SINGH: Will the Act, 195R asking it to show causc v hy Minister of PETROLEUM AND CHE­ Government Directors should not bo MICALS AND FERTILIZERS be nppointed on the company’s Board of pleased to state: Directors. (a) whether ij is a fact that 440,000 TTnauthorlsed Occupation of Railway dollars was paid by Cochin Refinery Quarters Allahabad Division Ltd. each year for three years in 1969 to 1971 and Phillips Petroleum put 31,53. SHRT JAG D AM BI PR A SA D this money in numbered Swiss acco­ YADAV: Will the Minister of RAIL­ unts. which was then transmitted to a WAYS be pleased to state: Panama subsidiary of Phillips Petro­ (a) thp detail.s of railway em plo­ leum for disbursement to certain for­ yees who were/are unauthorised!v oc­ eign associates of the company and cupying railway quarters on Allaha­ not properly recorded on the com­ bad Division belonping to Personnel pany’s books of financial account; and Branch pool: (b) whether it is a fact that the (b) whether unauthorised occupants then private sector refineries wore w ere/are liable to pay pena.l rent; petting Rs 17.50 a tonne while the public sector refineries at Gauhati (c) if so, the detai’s of penal rent and Guiarat were working on a pro­ recovered andlor likelv to be recover­ cess margin of Rs. 30 a tonne, “a mar­ ed from the unauthorised occupants: gin not available to them (Phillips) and even in their own country or by any (d) whether disciplinary proceedings refinery anywhere in the world” yield­ are proposed to be initiated against ing Rs. 12.5 erodes a year? 59 Ansiper* JULY 12. 1977 Written Ahsxotrt 66

1H£ MlNlSTtR OF PfcTROLEUM when provision bf'a fixed process mar­ AND CHEMICALS AND FERTILI­ gin was given up. ZERS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a) Cocftln RelinerieB Limltod hltd reMtMkd a sum of US dollars 440.000 frm 1 liter flht) per ye*r for the jrears 1969, 1S»70 and mi te I%ilti|»s Petroleum Interna­ tional OM’poration Panama, as laer 3 1 5 5 . «To th« Technical Services Agreement en- teried into between Cochin Refineries Limited and M/s. Phillips Petroleum. Govefnn»wt h»ve n« informatioft 1 9 7 ?.ir about the utilisation of this amount VtlHTT V R 1 00 CT" ^ by Phillips. However, the Federal 9rmrT ^ ^ ftnr) Grand Jury in Tulsa. Oklahoma, who had conducted an enquiry into Tax snsnw ^ f^T ’TT ; Law Violations by Phillips had. in their indictment filed in the US Dis­ trict Court, indicated inter-alia th«i ^ % WT I ? Company's failure to show in its tax returns the money received from the ^ (tfto Ht» (V) Cochin Refineries as Technical Ser­ vices Fee. Government have how­ ifiT ( V ) : ever. been informed by the Cochin ftnrsfn’ wv Refineries Limited that the Chief Dis­ trict Judge in Tulsa, Oklahoma, has ^ if ^ fHPr dismiilsed the entire indictment as to 40 wrttt ^ Phillips Petroleum and all other de­ 1 00 ZH «nr?TT fendants. 4 1 ^ ^<11 ^ TT

(b) At the time the Formation 1 9 73^f ^ 5TTT ^ Agreement of Cochin Refinery was *rar«rr i signed. Government had not fixed pro­ ^ ^ %riT cess margin for any o f the reflnerie*^ in the public sector. The prices of irVPFr ^TTfT f^T^TgT products were fixed on the basis of fiTRiFT TitT ffn r ifin n fwfwSr import parity, and therefore the mar­ 5 TTT 1«P*rT ^ITPTT