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Public Comment on R277-511 As of August 11, 2016 Public Comment on R277-511 as of August 11, 2016 From: Daralyn Potter To: Board Rule Comments Subject: Not the Solution Date: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:02:52 PM Allowing a person to teach without having them graduate from an Education program is similar to letting a surgeon operate after only taking basic anatomy. I don't know how that's good for anyone. A new teacher without a thorough understanding of human development, educational theory, curriculum design, classroom management, and a plethora of practicum hours would be set up for failure. As the law stands now, a new teacher - even after a Bachelor's Degree in Education - has to complete the Early Years Educator program which is three years of mentoring and oversight by a staff developer. That's seven years, (Bachelor's plus EYE), from start to finish, of hands-on, immersive training. Why is it a good idea to circumvent that setup? You really think it will save money or get more teachers in classrooms? I don't see it solving anything at all. If anything, it will make things worse. You will have a bunch of new teachers who are completely lost, relying on teammates or mentor teachers to help them out, and you will have a bunch of veteran teachers resenting the new system and the increased workload it brings with it. The job is already hard enough. Why would anyone stay in that environment? What chance will our kids have when all of their teachers are new because there is continual turnover? Will parents trust us? It ultimately comes down to this: Why can't we keep the teachers we have, keep the certification the same, but pay them a good living wage? Let's make sure that teachers, who are wearing so many hats these days, have what they need to be successful in their classroom and in their own home life. Give teachers discretion to make decisions. Trust them as we trust other professionals. Give the profession some validation like we do lawyers and doctors. Many of us have just as many years of training as the lawyers and doctors of the world but we are still told what to do and how to do it, often by those who don't know what they're talking about. Teachers are killing themselves; giving their time with their own families, their health, their own money, for other people's children. It's not the teachers that are failing the students. From: Shelley .Smyka To: Warner, Terryl Cc: Stallings, Angie Subject: R277-511 Academic Pathway to Teaching Date: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:48:51 PM I am a proud UEA member and a middle school teacher. I would respectfully request that you reconsider the Academic Pathway to Teaching (ART) teaching license. 1. We as teachers in Utah are losing numbers. It isn't because the path to teaching is too difficult, it is that the teaching profession is difficult to consider be cause teaching wages in Utah are at the bottom of the scale in the United States. Consequently our Universities educate and groom the next teachers for other states. Our new teachers go elsewhere to teach, so they can afford to teach. Low wages show disrespect for the value of our teachers and the importance in our society's framework. 2. We teachers have put many hours of time and many of our future wages into education. APT allows a person to teach without the same credentials and hours of training. What then will be the incentive for any future "teacher" to put in those hours of dedicated learning, along with their money, into an educational degree? 3. Those of us who completed our degree in education (as well as the parents and public) are being shown by this "path" that the degree we worked for is of little value. 4. Once again, the wages have been overlooked as the reason for a loss of interest in teaching. Another way to say to the teachers, "You are not valuable". 5. Most importantly, as a middle school teacher, I can tell you that the hours of mentoring and training I received have been extremely valuable. I also suggest that a complete knowledge of the curriculum, writing lesson plans and classroom management cannot be "tested"; it must be learned and practiced. What is at stake is our children's education! What is at stake is also our quality of education. Respectfully, Shelley Smyka Box Elder Middle School From: C Roberts To: Board Rule Comments Subject: Teacher Licensing Date: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:14:02 PM To Whom It May Concern: I am an educator in Carbon School District - 12 years as an English and health teacher and one year as a counselor. I have some concerns about this new "solution" to our teacher shortage problem. In those 13 years, I have never seen a teacher hired in the ARL program complete; however, there are a couple current teachers, hired on a ARL, who I believe could complete the program and continue teaching. But it is rare. These teachers are thrown into teaching, have some support from admin and the district and fellow teachers, but have a difficult time becoming effective teachers and usually end up resigning from the position. I have seen how frustrating it is for those who try to help those teachers become successful, and I am sure that from the district level there is frustration in time and money spent on mentors and trainings. This new program seems to help new teachers even less and with no additional resources for districts to use to help these teachers. How can this be the solution? I know that our school district was hit hard with increased insurance costs this year. Thankfully, our district was able to fund those increases, but if the district has to pay for more training and mentors for these teachers, we ALL get hit with the costs of that. There is only so much money to go around. I realize that the teacher shortage is a huge problem. Principals are desperate to fill those positions - heck, I am as a counselor too! I wish that the approach would be less of a bandaid to the problem and more of a long-term solution. What about figuring out a way to bring in more money for the profession? A lottery is a great way to do that. I feel that while teachers never get into the profession for the income, it is definitely more appealing if teachers are paid enough to match their college degree. What about easing negative publicity on teachers in general? What about enforcing charter schools to do that same work and testing as public schools? There are so many different issues going into the problem of the shortage, and those issues need to be addressed in order for real change to take place over time. Thank you for your time and consideration in this issue. I understand that these decisions are not taken lightly, but I feel that 2 1/2 weeks time to debate this issue is too rash. Please address my concerns. Sincerely, Chelsa Roberts Sent from my iPhone From: Randy and Chandra Hart To: Board Rule Comments Subject: New Rule Date: Friday, July 22, 2016 5:21:34 PM You might expect that most teachers would not be in favor of this rule. However I am. Let me tell you why. 1) Our school district is currently short more than four certified teachers. With the school year starting very shortly extra burdens will be placed on those teachers who are already in place if those teachers cannot be found. In our part of Utah very few want to teach, and very few want to live here. This rule would give that opportunity to some who live here, and cannot go to school, the option to fill those empty positions. 2) I have been attending school for four years to become a certified teacher. As the time has been approaching for me to do my demonstration teaching I have been deeply aware of the financial burden that would be placed on my family by leaving my job. The opportunity to be a licensed teacher for someone like me who has passed the Praxis, been teaching at a school, and has taken many education courses already, would allow my family of six to have food on the table instead of making that sacrifice. The teaching programs of today are not meant for people like me who have families and mouths to feed, they were set up for young students out of college, and that needs to change. 3) Most teachers leave the profession within the first three years, so why not allow more people the opportunity, without the expensive education commitment, to see if teaching is right for them? Many paraprofessionals do not become teachers because of the expense of the education. This would give them the opportunity to become a teacher, and would allow them to fill those empty positions. 4) Several of my colleagues did not have to meet the stringent requirements that are currently in place to become a teacher. And they often say if they had to meet the requirements today, they would not become a teacher. 5) It isn't easy to become a certified teacher. The hoops you have to jump through are numerous and difficult. As long as support is in place, and these "new rule" teachers can be heavily scrutinized and evaluated, there is no reason to keep what could be very good teachers out of our schools.
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