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BEFORE THE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA [Greenville, South Carolina] HEARING # 13-11348 JUNE 24, 2013 6:00 P.M. DOCKET NO. 2013-59-E: Duke Energy Carolinas, LLC - Application for Authority to Adjust and Increase Electric Rates and Charges TRANSCRIPT OF TESTIMONY AND PROCEEDINGS VOLUME 2 HEARING BEFORE: Randy MITCHELL , CHAIRMAN , , G. O’Neal HAMILTON , VICE CHAIRMAN ; and COMMISSIONERS John E. ‘Butch’ HOWARD , Elizabeth B. 'Lib' FLEMING , Swain E. WHITFIELD , and Nikiya ‘Nikki’ HALL ADVISOR TO COMMISSION : B. Randall Dong, Esq. STAFF: Jocelyn Boyd, Chief Clerk/Administrator; James Spearman, Ph.D., Executive Assistant to Commissioners; David Stark, Esq., Legal Staff; William O. Richardson and Phil Riley, Advisory Staff; Jo Elizabeth M. Wheat, CVR-CM/M-GNSC, Court Reporter; and Calvin Woods, Hearing Room Assistant APPEARANCES: HEATHER S. SMITH, ESQUIRE, TIMIKA SHAFEEK- HORTON, ESQUIRE, and FRANK R. ELLERBE III, ESQUIRE, representing DUKE ENERGY CAROLINAS, LLC, APPLICANT COURTNEY DARE EDWARDS, ESQUIRE, representing the SOUTH CAROLINA OFFICE OF REGULATORY STAFF PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA 101 EXECUTIVE CENTER DRIVE POST OFFICE BOX 11649 COLUMBIA , SC 29210 COLUMBIA , SC 29211 WWW .PSC .SC .GOV Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 100 I N D E X PAGE REMARKS BY Rep. P. Mike Burns ................................ 104 Sen. Karl B. Allen ................................ 104 Ann Wilson [for Sen. Michael L. 'Mike' Fair] ...... 105 Rep. Leola Robinson-Simpson ....................... 112 PRELIMINARY MATTERS .................................... 103-113 24. TESTIMONY of LES GARDNER ................................ 113 25. TESTIMONY of REV. PHILIP A. PARIS, SR. ............... 116 26. TESTIMONY of REX O'STEEN ................................ 119 27. TESTIMONY of RUBY ROSADO ............................. 122 Examination by Ms. C. Edwards ..................... 123 28. TESTIMONY of SELDON PEDEN .............................. 124 Examination by Commissioner Whitfield ............. 127 29. TESTIMONY of DONALD F. CUDDIHEE, SR. ................. 129 30. TESTIMONY of ROBERT G. 'BUTCH' TAYLOR ................. 131 31. TESTIMONY of ANNETTE CHRISTY ........................... 134 32. TESTIMONY of BO DAVIS ................................... 136 33. TESTIMONY of CYNTHIA B. HYATT .......................... 141 34. TESTIMONY of JOHN WIEBEL ................................ 145 35. TESTIMONY of ANTONE JONES .............................. 150 Examination by Commissioner Fleming ............... 153 NIGHT HEARING /GREENVILLE - VOLUME 2 6/24/13 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 101 PAGE 36. TESTIMONY of THEO W. MITCHELL .......................... 154 37. TESTIMONY of SETH POWELL ................................ 157 Hearing Exhibit No. 2 marked/received [Petition(s) and other submitted materials] .... 161 38. TESTIMONY of TRACI FANT ................................. 161 Examination by Ms. C. Edwards ..................... 163 39. TESTIMONY of BEN HASKEW ................................. 166 40. TESTIMONY of KENNETH SERCY ............................. 168 Examination by Commissioner Fleming ............... 171 41. TESTIMONY of BARBARA KEETON ............................ 172 42. TESTIMONY of JEFF STEWART .............................. 175 43. TESTIMONY of EFIA NWANGAZA ............................. 178 44. TESTIMONY of JAN WILLIAMS .............................. 180 Examination by Commissioner Whitfield ............. 183 Hearing Exhibit No. 3 marked/received [Bill data] ................................ 184 45. TESTIMONY of LEN GUTHRIE ................................ 186 46. TESTIMONY of JOHN UNKEFER .............................. 190 Examination by Commissioner Fleming ............... 195 Hearing Exhibit No. 4 marked/received [Submitted materials] ....................... 198 47. TESTIMONY of DAVID HAYES ................................ 199 Examination by Chairman Mitchell .................... 202 48. TESTIMONY of SYLVIA MERCADO ............................ 204 Examination by Ms. C. Edwards ..................... 207 49. TESTIMONY of PATRICIA TAYLOR ........................... 208 NIGHT HEARING /GREENVILLE - VOLUME 2 6/24/13 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 102 PAGE 50. TESTIMONY of NANCY HALVERSON ........................... 210 51. TESTIMONY of HAL JOHNSON ................................ 212 Examination by Commissioner Whitfield ............. 215 Examination by Chairman Mitchell .................. 217 Examination by Commissioner Fleming ............... 217 Examination by Chairman Mitchell .................. 218 52. TESTIMONY of J.M. FLEMMING ............................. 220 Hearing Exhibit No. 5 marked/received [Petition(s)] ............................... 222 53. TESTIMONY of DENNIS J. TULLY ........................... 222 Examination by Chairman Mitchell .................. 225 54. TESTIMONY of CARLA ENGLE ................................ 226 55. TESTIMONY of MARY ELLEN FAIRCLOTH ...................... 230 56. TESTIMONY of JUNE ANDERSON ............................. 233 57. TESTIMONY of GENE HAWKINS .............................. 241 58. TESTIMONY of CLARENCE THORNTON ......................... 246 59. TESTIMONY of LOTTIE B. GIBSON .......................... 250 60. TESTIMONY of PRINCELLA LEE-BRIDGES ..................... 251 Examination by Ms. C. Edwards ..................... 254 61. TESTIMONY of SANDRA JONES .............................. 255 62. TESTIMONY of STEVEN BRYANT ............................. 259 63. TESTIMONY of CARRIE MINGO .............................. 262 Hearing Exhibit No. 6 marked/received [6/24/13 Sign-In Sheets] .................................. 265 REPORTER’S CERTIFICATE .................................... 266 NIGHT HEARING /GREENVILLE - VOLUME 2 6/24/13 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 103 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 CHAIRMAN MITCHELL: Okay. I would like to 3 call this hearing to order tonight. We certainly 4 thank each and every one of you for being in 5 attendance tonight, and we are the Public Service 6 Commission and we're so happy to be able to come to 7 Greenville, to travel up here so that you don't 8 have to travel to Columbia to speak to us. And 9 we're just so happy for this crowd. We're 10 certainly here and want to hear every word that is 11 said, so we would ask you, if you could, please 12 refrain from clapping, so that we can get 13 everything on the recorder, so we can get every 14 word recorded. And we're just so thankful to be 15 here. 16 Before we get started, I'd like to introduce 17 the Commissioners. First, to my far right, we have 18 Commissioner Hall. Immediately by me is 19 Commissioner Whitfield. And we have, to my far 20 left, Commissioner Howard; and next to him, 21 Commissioner Fleming; and then Commissioner 22 Hamilton. We make up six of the seven members of 23 the Public Service Commission. We have -- our 24 Chairman has left; he has taken another job, and so 25 we just have six of the seven. That would have NIGHT HEARING/GREENVILLE - VOLUME 2 6/24/13 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 104 1 been former Chairman Wright. 2 So we're happy to be here with you tonight. I 3 would ask at this time -- I believe we have 4 Representative Mike Burns here? Representative 5 Burns? Yes, sir, would you like to say anything? 6 REP. BURNS: I came tonight to understand what 7 the people's feelings are. I've made up my mind 8 with some of the facts, and I would like to glean 9 from citizens what they think. I'm happy that we 10 have this good turn-out tonight so that we all can 11 hear what our citizenry thinks about this issue. 12 Thank you, very much. 13 CHAIRMAN MITCHELL: Thank you, sir, for being 14 here. Yes, sir. 15 [Applause from audience] 16 We also have Senator Karl Allen. Senator 17 Allen? Yes, sir. 18 SEN. ALLEN: Mr. Chairman, to the Commission, 19 we want to thank you for coming to Greenville to 20 hear from the people regarding their position as it 21 relates to this issue, being able to take those 22 facts back and make an informed decision. And we 23 ask you to not forget about the people, balance 24 that with Duke Energy, and come up with a decision 25 that makes and represents their ideology. So, NIGHT HEARING/GREENVILLE - VOLUME 2 6/24/13 PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION OF SOUTH CAROLINA Docket No. 2013-59-E Duke Energy Carolinas/ Rates & Charges 105 1 again, we extend the hospitality of Greenville, 2 South Carolina, to the Public Service Commission of 3 South Carolina. Thank you. 4 CHAIRMAN MITCHELL: Thank you Senator Allen. 5 [Applause from audience] 6 And we also have a representative of Senator 7 Mike Fair? Could you come forward, please, at this 8 time? Just introduce yourself. We're so happy to 9 have you representing Senator Fair. 10 MS. ANN WALLACE [SEN. FAIR]: Thank you, Mr. 11 Chairman. My name is Ann Wallace and I'm here on 12 behalf of Senator Mike Fair. Unfortunately, he's 13 out of town, so he sent me in his place. 14 I wanted to -- Senator Fair wanted to be here, 15 but he also desired to express his respectful 16 opposition to the proposed rate increase. 17 While Senator Fair is the chairman of the 18 Greenville Legislative Delegation, he wanted to 19 make sure that the Commission understood that the 20 following comments simply represent his individual 21 opinion.