Interview with Gerelle Porter (Automatic)

Henry Bump, Interviewer

May 3rd, 2021

St Paul, Minnesota (interviewer) and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (interviewee)

Conducted via Zoom

Henry Bump (00:01):

All right. It's uh, May 3rd, 2021 it's 8:45 PM. Minnesota time, 9:45 PM. Pittsburgh time, obviously here with Gerelle Porter from my, uh, high school, you know, um, how we, we met playing football right.

Gerelle Porter (00:18):

Yeah definitely playing football

Henry Bump (00:18):

Class or something like that?

Gerelle Porter (00:21):

Yeah uh didn't we I Don't know.

Henry Bump (00:24):

Maybe it was like gym or something. Yeah. Both of us were probably, we were kind of tidde at hoops. I remember that. I know I was,

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Gerelle Porter (00:33):

And I don't know man. I just trying to do a little bit of everything

Henry Bump (00:37):

Swear now. Obviously the rapper music maker. That's why we find ourselves here today. And, um, so I'm doing my, a little COVID-19 project and it's like how, sort of the pandemic has changed the way that you make music. And obviously in the live performing industry, a lot of things have been rattled. And so I just wanted to talk about a few things like that. You just want to sorta first off, introduce yourself, tell the people what you like to make, stuff like that about yourself as an artist.

Gerelle Porter (01:06):

All right. Uh, well, uh, I, as you say my name is Gerelle. Uh, my rap nameI was going by automatic. Um,

I've been rapping for probably about two years now. I rapped started probably like the senior year of high school, 2019. Um, I was probably closer towards my graduation though, when I really started to like branch off into the music, uh, phase of my life. So, um, I really got fond of, you know, trying to be as versatile as possible, you know, trying to open up and, you know, do as much as I possibly can, you know, uh, try to do, you know, the, turnt up party songs, you know, do the emotional songs, you know, hit the heart hit the soul, you know, I try to do the relationships like the songs, you know, I wanted to get a vibe basically that was what my thing was. Yeah.

Henry Bump (01:54):

That's what's up. I remember the time that I like first started listening to yourself or was like, really like peeping it, and whatnot, it was whenever you were making those trillers. And I think what was the one that you first made? It was for like, I think it was for levels. Right? Was It that?

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Gerelle Porter (02:09):

Yeah it definitely was levels.

Henry Bump (02:12):

Yeah. Right. I think it's like crazy now because a lot of what people do on social media is like marketing their music. Do you think that way, when did you start realizing that? Like, okay, I gotta use social media as a way to platform and branch out my music.

Gerelle Porter (02:27):

I mean, for me it was a little different, like, because I have been doing like a lot more different things in like the social media world and like the advertising world early on way before I even did music. And like I was doing like affiliate marketing and stuff like that. So I already knew that like how to run ads to, you know, how to generate that and how to generate that income, you know, monetize out certain things, you know? And then, uh, with like really getting into music, I seen that social media was really how people was doing it. Now you have to get that attention. You have to do something that's, you know, eye catching something. That's going to grab that attention. Yeah.

Henry Bump (03:03):

You think it distracts at all away from making music at times.

Gerelle Porter (03:07):

Yeah. Uh, it was, you could get distracted a lot and some of the things like, uh, you really got into it, you only get what you put in, so you gotta be willing to put that time. And even when you do get distracted.

Yeah.

Henry Bump (03:22):

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Sorry. I remember you were always a big reader and always like posted the books on social media and everything. Trying to give everybody else the keys. Do you think that's like an important part of using it.

Gerelle Porter (03:33):

Uh, yeah, for me personally, I feel like, you know, expanding your mind as much as you possibly can, will help you in all phases of life, you know, and all, you know, branches, you know, just gaining as much knowledge as possible as an asset, because you never know where you might be in five or 10 years. You know, I'm doing music now, but who's to say, come two years from now. I won't be doing real estate or, you know, going to be in another field. So it's just good to try and get a basis for everything.

Henry Bump (03:59):

Yeah. Well, first, what made you first want to get into music then?

Gerelle Porter (04:03):

Uh, honestly just, it started off as a joke. Like it was started off as a joke. We were, um, playing on this app, uh, rapchat. We was like dissing each other. Like we used to diss each other, like every day, come to school, you know, come back to dice. Um, show each other are rap and stuff like that, but just be dissin. And then one day I just decided, just try just a random beat on YouTube. And it was better than I thought it was then, uh, I ended up going to my friend Hardy's house and, uh, like to talk, like, I think it was like a day or two before we graduated, I went to his house and somebody else in the city had dropped, uh, had dropped a song and I had tried to make a song like to they beat, but I couldn't find that one beat. And he had found that beat. So I went over his house and I ended up like, we in there rapping, a bunch of stuff in the way of saying like, we might as well just rap. Let's try it. Like, let's just see what happens. And here we are now.

Henry Bump (05:00):

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So it was YouTube started doing it together. And then now you guys are still like making the same videos and stuff together now.

Gerelle Porter (05:07):

Yeah. It's been two years now, but, Same thing.

Henry Bump (05:13):

Did you guys know each other before dice or did you meet him at dice?

Gerelle Porter (05:17):

Oh, no. I've known him probably since like, I dunno. Probably be like seventh, eighth grade. I mean, I did know him through like a little league because we played little league football and we used to played each others team and stuff like that. Uh, okay. Okay.

Henry Bump (05:32):

Do you think like working together has been something that's like kind of like catalyzed, both of it like pushed you guys both a little bit to go harder. You think?

Gerelle Porter (05:41):

Oh yeah. Most definitely. I know for a fact us being there and us being around each other, uh, it definitely did a lot for us because even this year we had went through like a rough patch. We wasn't talking. Right. But we were still, you, you know, just take a bunch of just support just to make sure, you know, like, okay, we're not talking. Why not we communicating? Even if we're not cool. We still want to see each other win, you know? Yeah. This was the during the pandemic, a couple of little things happened. We had like some inner turmoil and stuff like that, you know? So, uh, we just ended up, you know, just not talking for about a month , sometime like that. And eventually we just got back. So, but it

5 was one of the things like we knew we had to handle business. Like this is not, we want to be professionals at the end of the day. So we understand that even if we fighting each other, we still gotta understand that we gotta work together.

Henry Bump (06:36):

So when did you start? Like when did it, when did it change from being like something freestyling for fun? That you're like to something that you're now looking at as a career. What flipped it?

Gerelle Porter (06:49):

Was so weird. Like the jump from, for fun to like, okay, like let's really do this where it's like, the change was so subtle, but it was so quick because I remember like we didn't even get into the stu for like the whole first month we was just making songs on our phone, just recording off our phones or like off the laptops we had in our house, stuff like that.

Henry Bump (07:12):

Yeah.

Gerelle Porter (07:13):

Excuse me. But, uh, uh, one of his friends had called him and said, uh, I got a studio session on the south side. I want you to come down and, you know, hop on, this beat with me. So he came, we went down there and that's when yeah, we went down there, he got, he made his little song with him and then literally the next week we were in a studio. And then from that time on, you know, it went from okay, we're decent, but we know we can get better. And then it's like four or five songs and it just became like, okay, this is what we're doing. Yeah. Okay.

Henry Bump (07:48):

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How many songs have you made you think all in all now?

Gerelle Porter (07:51):

Like a hundred of them. At least a hundred plus.

Henry Bump (08:03):

Sheesh, Do you think like, stay like the, stay at home orders and all of that stuff that was going on and like the quarantine and say like a lot of people spend a lot of time, like to themselves and more time, at home. And they would be that kind of, you think like push you guys to make a lot of songs just cause you had so much time.

Gerelle Porter (08:20):

Yeah. Uh, for us personally, like we talked about that like as the pandemic was coming, like, but we like had it like a feeling that they was gonna make us stay home and stuff like that. But we kind of told ourselves like, this is where we'll see who's honestly working, you know, because the time they make, like, that's the same thing. The pandemic is like the same thing when the market crashed back in oh seven oh eight, right. You get to see who really work and who really wants it, who's really grinding, we trying to strive to be somebody, so this is where we really got there and was like, okay, we gotta to do everything we can to make sure we're at a level of people. Not even just a level 10 levels trying to do everything we can to be the best. But yeah. I feel like the pandemic, probably the best thing that could have happen to us.

Henry Bump (09:01):

You think so?

Gerelle Porter (09:02):

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Yeah

Henry Bump (09:03):

I remember seeing a bunch of things going around. It's like, it can either be a pandemic or a bandemic you really gotta choose which one.

Gerelle Porter (09:10):

Honestly, you got to choose a one, you know, life's in your own hands, you got to choose how fast you want to get there.

Henry Bump (09:16):

That's true. I mean, for us, like, so you really said it separates, like who really wants it from who really doesn't and that, do you feel like the way that you were, I don't know, did you did the pandemic, it obviously puts you on the more like writing and creating direction for making all these songs, but in terms of like, like you said, you did the affiliate marketing did it now kind of intensify the way that you like marketed your music on social media as well or no.

Gerelle Porter (09:40):

Yeah. I feel like it definitely pushed us to like really learn more about the marketing side of the music, you know, just understanding that it's not just all about, you know, being creative and making the good catchy song, but you gotta be able to get them out there. You gotta be able to get people to see them.

So we definitely got better at learning how to market learn, how to, you know, put things in the right places. Now, even just, even if it's just getting a person who's well-known, they'll put the song out there for you or, you know, just put on that page, Share, this and that, because any publicity is good publicity, you just gotta know how to use it.

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Henry Bump (10:13):

Yeah. I remember seeing you guys got like a girl from a couple of girls from our high school to do like dance trends. And they had like a couple of thousand views on like Instagram reels and stuff like that.

What kind of sparked the idea?

Gerelle Porter (10:28):

Uh, uh, really we just been talking about trying to go viral, you know, just trying to do everything we can to start a trend. You know, that's the biggest thing. Whereas we try to start as many trends as possible.

We're trying to be the ones coming up with things and people, uh, you know, just following behind us, you know, per se. But I feel like that could have been a lot more than what it was. We just didn't do what we need to do. Like, we could of took the time, you know? Okay. Let's put it on, say cheese , on worldstar, put it here and here. We just did like little inner city stuff.

Henry Bump (11:00):

Yeah. Okay. Are you guys more focused though on, do you think, like building and ground, the community that you have in Pittsburgh to then expand? Is that something you guys are concious of?

Gerelle Porter (11:09):

I mean, that's something we debate about a lot. Like when I say a lot, I mean it's close to like everyday.

Tell me, tell yeah. Yeah.

Henry Bump (11:19):

Keep going about that. I was going to say expand on that.

Gerelle Porter (11:22):

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I'll say, because like we talked about all the time really. Like he wants to, like Hardy wants to build the biggest relationship with everybody in the city. When the thing I've noticed is a lot of people who go viral and you know, actually make it out. It's because of the people in other cities people in other states grabbing on, because it's okay for us to get our city. But if nobody, but our city knows us, we can't do nothing. It doesn't make a difference because we can only be shelved together. I don't in New York, want to see us. Cause nobody in New York know us, but I feel like if we can get them states, New York,

California, Miami, you know, just get different places to want to see us. Then, you know, we'll have a better chance of, you know, just broadening, but you know, it's one of the things I don't, I don't really know. I don't like fight about it because at the end of the day, the goal is the same it just to be, to get as known as possible.

Henry Bump (12:17):

Yeah. It makes sense.

Henry Bump (12:19):

Do you feel like, what was I gonna say? You feel like sometimes Pittsburgh in a sense can be like a bit of a bubble when it comes to, like, if you look at a lot of the artists that have like come through Pittsburgh, it seems like, like you said, if you only get a Pittsburgh like fan base, it's really only so much. Cause it's not even like the suburbs of Pittsburgh that listen to a lot of like any inner city, Pittsburgh rap and stuff.

Gerelle Porter (12:49):

I mean, from what I've noticed it's like it's tougher for Pittsburgh rappers to like really leave this bubble of Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh has this thing where either they love you or they hate you. Like it's one or the other. Like, and if they love you, you have a chance to, you know, actually go on and be that Wiz Khalifa or that Mac Miller. And then do you get that part where there's that love and hate, you know, that

10 mixture. Where you got that Hardo thing. Hardo doesn't have the same level of things that Wiz Khalifa has because Wiz can go to other states and do shows and he's on commercials and a bunch of other stuff, but Hardo won't get that far. My biggest thing is us not touching no level that a Pittsburgh, a

Pittsburgh person has touched before. I don't want us to be where Wiz is. I want us to be where Drake is feelme? I want us to be able to do so different things, have some different brand deals, so much different stuff that like you would have never expected us to come from Pittsburgh.

Henry Bump (13:44):

Yeah. You see Drake was on a State Farm add the other day?

Gerelle Porter (13:49):

My point Exactly. Like state farm. Yeah.

Henry Bump (13:54):

That's crazy. What do you think would be like the dream, the dream, the dream, like, not ad, but like if you had to just like, like elaborate, I guess would be that elaborate more on just like sort of goals of when it comes to like music making wise not necessarily like being on an ad or something, but like how many projects or like themes that you want to talk about more and stuff like that. Just from like a music perspective.

Gerelle Porter (14:20):

Alright. Uh, I feel like, like for me personally, like I, I've never been like a one of them people who cared about, you know, getting out of the awards and grammy's and stuff like that. Like that's all great, but more than anything is like, I want to just be able to amass enough wealth to help everybody else to give back, to be able to, you know, okay. Let's take kids from the city from, even for, if I'm coming back to

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Pittsburgh as a kid from Pittsburgh who feel like their discounted in certain areas, but they're not getting the support they need or they're, they don't have the abilities to do certain things. I want to be able to help kids get scholarships and stuff like that. Like I've never been too worried about on, you know, what

I can't get from it. Like, it'd be great to, you know, one day even even getting anything, like I'll take it all your, like if Oreo gave me a commercial, I'll be happy. Yeah. That's a brand that's you've never see before, like Facebook, something like that, Instagram, but more than anything, I don't care how far or who comes to get me who signs, what deal. I just want to be able to help at end of the day. Like I wanna be able to get the money to do something with the money, not just for me.

Henry Bump (15:30):

Yeah. That makes sense. I feel like you see, like, did you listen to the new like DJ Khaled album at all or anything?

Gerelle Porter (15:40):

Ohh nah.

Henry Bump (15:40):

There was like a line in there where like Nas calls himself. Like he talks about like Coinbase and his investment that he made in there and how he like made a ton of money off of that and calls himself like the cryptocurrency Scarface essentially. Right. So he's like crypto kingpin, I guess. Do you feel like there's a growing push now in like rap and hip hop for people to sort of talk more about like conservation in amassing wealth? Or is that something that you see needs to be further developed.

Gerelle Porter (16:10):

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Like music is? And I feel like it should and probably will take a turn within the next like decade to a different, uh, like a total different, you know, way it is because now, right now you hear the same old things is, you know, drugs, money, girls, guns, kill this, , do that. You feel me get money here, do this, do that. Eventually it's not going to be that no more because that's going to lose! You know, it's, it's lust.

You feel me. Like, people love things that they can't do themselves. This is why a lot of street rappers make it because they just like to hear it. They like to, as sad as it is to say, people like to watch other people's lives, like, they see things and be around things that they'll never be around themselves. They'll never do themselves. They just, they just want to, you know, envision it, see it.

Gerelle Porter (16:57):

But after like music is going to take that turn or at least most of the rappers and industry now is going to take that turn to, this is not the life I want to live. This is not even what I want to talk about. No more. I want to, I want to invest in this. I want to do this. I want to do that because there's so much money to be made now. And everybody sees that drama is not where the money is made. It's just what can get you to the start to making money. Because drama makes a lot money. It's just, it's not something you want to keep around you.

Henry Bump (17:25):

Yeah. It's not. It's not a sustainable career. If you want, like longevity in career, anything like that.

Gerelle Porter (17:32):

Yeah. That's the biggest thing. Just having longevity. You just gotta be able to, survive. Thats why a lot of rappers aren't signed to the big labels no more, because they understand that like same time, no matter how much they signed up for, they want their money back. And at the end of the day, you are an asset to them. So they don't want to lose an asset. It's like, like a lot of, um, like a lot of, um, what do they call

13 a lot of like the companies like signing people right now. Like they, they understand that these people are in the streets. These people are getting shot at everyday, like a lot of bad things. They can go to jail, they can die. They don't want to take the chance on losing these people. That's why a lot of people are taking a route of trying to do the self-made stuff, trying to just go out and just make their own money, you know, marketing they own waves. Like, that's why I like a lot of these new apps coming out.

Henry Bump (18:24):

Do you think that, like, whenever you think about that, I know you obviously talk about like getting a deal, getting these advertisements to then be able to amass wealth and help those around you. But at the same time, a lot of like rappers, like Jay Z and Kanye really stress, like people owning their own masters. Right. Whereas that's not really something that's entirely common under like a lot of label deals from especially bigger labels too. Is that something that you sort of think about as well? Or if you kind of had to look down the line, where do you really see that turning?

Gerelle Porter (18:56):

That's one thing I stress with us. Like I try to bring that up as often as possible. And it's so funny because not only do I do it but my engineer and our producer, we say the same things every time, no matter, uh, if you signed to this record label or not, you know, make sure at the end of the day you have your masters because you can't do nothing without them. And you don't want to be in a situation to where you're stuck. You can't move. And I understand like it's tough. Like it's super tough to go from, you know, sitting on what four or five, maybe six figures to seeing seven, eight figures is brought to you on a silver platter. You know, it changes you. And it makes you just forget about all of that. But that's been the biggest thing I just been trying to keep, you know, in our mind is just make sure that you have it because you can't live without it. Because as you've seen when youngboy, you know, youngboy can get

14 out of his, and he did all five of his albums, but little did he know, every song he made, he has to release.

So then he was under there for years upon years.

Henry Bump (20:01):

Oh, every single song that he made while he was working for them?

Gerelle Porter (20:05):

Every single song he has to release, no matter how many you made, he could have made 7,000 songs, he gotta release all 7,000 that they own. Every piece of that music.

Henry Bump (20:16):

They can't just be not released?

Gerelle Porter (20:18):

No, there's no way he could get out of that contract [inaudible] either that, or he'll have to do what Uzi did. See Uzi couldn't release music for like two or three years. He just went off the map.

Henry Bump (20:28):

Yeah. That makes sense. Jeez louis. Have there been any cases of Pittsburgh rappers who have gotten trapped in any deals like that , you know?

Gerelle Porter (20:39):

Uh, not that I know of, uh, a lot of people are like signing with like Taylor gangs, under Wiz and stuff like that. And that's probably one of the biggest challenges that I've seen so far because he's given people

200, 400,000 for them to go ahead and try to make this money back, you know, just to give it back to them. But a lot of these rappers don't have the buzz don't have even the, and there's one thing I don't

15 like to do. I don't like the doubt anyone, but a lot of people don't have the ability to go on and, you know, focus up and do what they gotta do to make that 200,000 back that 400,000 back to pay this money back. Right. They think they is just getting money because their talented, and, that is what it is.

But at the same time, this is a business, a lot of people forget, it is a business. Right. You have to do what you have to do.

Henry Bump (21:34):

Yeah. There's a lot of people. Have you seen, like, you know, that guy BFB da Packman, like there's a lot of people who are kind of internalizing, you know the importance, not signing this deal and being able to support yourself individually. Is that something that you guys, because you obviously, I know that you work, you work another job too. Like, is that something that you guys think about as sort of being like, uh, not, not like indie in the sense of Genre wise, but independent.

Gerelle Porter (22:01):

Yeah. Uh, definitely. Um, that's one thing that I do try to get through. Like, um, at the end of the day, I do know that it will be better. Like the best thing possible probably be independent. It's just, it's going to take a lot longer. It's gonna be a lot harder. And some of the things like that, if you're willing to fight for it. You will succeed in it. But same time I do understand that, like I'm not the only one involved and it's like, we all, Hey, we like, we're in this together but at the same time we've got our own lives. Like if

Hardy wants to go off and choose that he wants to, you know, sign a deal, he can do that, but I'm choosing not to do it because I understand what comes with it. I understand how much you lose in that.

And that's just one thing I don't want to deal with, you know? Cause I been seeing all the rappers do it from Blueface to Megan the Stallion. Like it's so hard to try to get out of these deals. Blueface got like 40 people who get money before he touch his money. So by the time he gets to it it's crumbs.

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Henry Bump (22:59):

So they have to like, so do you think that now with sort of like the sort of like presence and social media plays in music? Like, I don't know if you saw like Reese young'n did that remix to that Coileray song where he like did the really loud like vrtt vrtt thing and got millions of plays. Right. And it's like, just like that, like people can like Reese young'n and who was like just Pittsburgh famous is now like a ton of people listened to that song of his. And you feel like the sort of social media and push towards people to be on their phones all the time has made it easier to sort of avoid this step of taking the label route.

Gerelle Porter (23:36):

Yeah, of course. I feel like social media is one of the best things for musicians, like as a whole, because at the same time, regardless of, you know what you do, it takes one song, one little sound, as you see with vrtt vrtt that got Reese Youngn all the way to LA, out there, rich gang and Peezy and other like, like, and more than anything, I'm so proud to see it. Like, I'm so glad to see people in my city prosper cause he been rapping seven, eight, nine years probably even rapping the last decade. Like he'd been rapping for a long time. You look back, I was in like middle school and I'm out of school. So, it's to the point where like people don't understand the power that social media has. Like, there's a great power with it. Like, and I try to stress, uh, you know, when there's a trend, if you can get on a trend before the trend really takes off hop on it because there was a possibility that make a lot of money there. Possibility, you know, take off and like get more opportunity from it. You just gotta see it in the beginning. And that's one I will say that, you know, we tried to hop on, we tried to do, we try to make sure that we're ahead of the trend, you know, as they are coming.

Henry Bump (24:49):

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Yeah. I think that's like, like you said earlier in trying to be on like some Drake type of stuff. Like that's what he always does when it came to like the, like the Kiki dance. Now everyone's doing all these Tik Tok dances and everything. And he did that like what three summers? Two summers ago.

Gerelle Porter (25:06):

Yeah look now.

Henry Bump (25:06):

Yeah, he's made so many dance songs and they have tons off of it. Where do you see? Like, I don't know if you had to pick two, I guess like looking at like the future or you don't have to give all the sauce, I guess, where do you see sort of music going in a certain way for like opportunity to made. Where do you see that?

Gerelle Porter (25:25):

Hold on give me one second. Can you say it one more time? Just repeat that for me. I apologize. I had a message.

Henry Bump (25:30):

No worries at all. Um, sort of in terms of like being ahead of the trends, I guess, in what way do you see sort of music pivoting? Like, do you see it going towards, um, sort of a resurgence of like this live performance? And all of this stuff once the shut down ends or do you think there's still going to be, people are having virtual concerts now and practically blowing up.

Gerelle Porter (25:54):

Look, I promise you for surely the second, like the second we're allowed to have live shows again, like everybody's summer is going to be like, like we're Phineas and Ferb out here, like everybody is going to

18 have the best summer of their lives. I can guarantee you nobody's going to want to stop going to shows concerts and all that. Like, that's our biggest thing. We're trying to do everything we can to build a basis now so by, you know, August or September, even 2022, you feel me when they start letting shows happened, we can try to build a little tour and try and do something, you know, hit six, seven cities. See what I'm saying? Because you know, the cities is already out here. The city's like, Miami, and you know, there's different places in like Texas and stuff like that. They were doing shows and I already know there's 20, 25,000 people in the crowd. Right. When everybody feels like it's safe enough to come back out here and enjoy themselves, I'm telling you like the resurgence of it is going to be crazy.

Henry Bump (26:54):

Do you think that, that's kind of why you guys are trying to make these songs to like rile people up? Like

I said, l a little dance music a little bit more.

Gerelle Porter (27:03):

See, that's one thing though. Like I tried to stress though because the one thing that I've realized and we both, and I won't even say just me, like everybody that I made music and kind of realized like, whatever song you take off with, and that's the genre of music that you now have to do it, unless you do something to separate yourself. And show that you're more versatile right Reese Youngn for prime example, went on no more parties and that vrtt vrtt and if you've been listening to Reese Youngn, going as long as I have. And I been listening to him since I was ya know a teenager, he didn't rap like that.

That's not how he rapped, like even in the songs he's making now. And that's not his sound. That's not the sound he had, he's choosing to make that sound and choosing to do that because he seen that's where the money was.

Gerelle Porter (27:50):

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That's what took him up. And now he has to follow that genre. But if I promise you, if he chooses to go back to the old Reese and show the other side, what he has, he has a way better chance of taking off.

Because you know, when people see something, they get attracted to it, but they just, they get so comfortable with the idea already and they want to see it over and over and over again. But if you keep showing somebody something new every different time. They want to think that you're just going to bring something new every time. This is why people like, like Toosi, he did that off the rip remix of

DaBaby. But instantly right after that, he dropped five or six different types of songs you feel me. He dropped red lights. Then he went to a couple of girls songs and then he had that song with Summer

Walker.

Gerelle Porter (28:33):

And other stuff like he showed everybody that he was versatile. This is not just who I am. I can do this this and that. The biggest thing is making sure people see how versatile you are, because you can lose it so quickly. Right. You'll get that one genre and you'll be stuck. Like you don't want to be stuck. And that's the, my biggest thing. Like I've been trying to help us about how to make the most time as possible because I'd rather us be stuck with a party vibe than be stuck with the sad, the Rod Wave because no one wants to wrap about depression all the time. I'm not sad every day, like I'm happy more, like more often than not. So know that's been the biggest thing for me, just understanding that whatever genre, where you choose to go into, you got to stick to it.

Henry Bump (29:15):

Yeah. Like whatever direction you put your foot forward with, this is the way you're going to keep walking.

Gerelle Porter (29:20):

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Yeah. Like we know, we know like little baby talks about money, every song. So we're expecting that every song more than anything, he's going to talk about some money sometimes throughout his song.

Yeah.

Henry Bump (29:32):

That's crazy. Well, I mean, Hey, I think this has been really great. It was great to hear about all your stuff you want to tell all the people about any plans that you've got, things to look out, stuff on the new horizon.

Gerelle Porter (29:48):

Uh, I got a tape. It's gonna be called something different. It will probably be out by like June. I'm still working on the cover and everything like that. It should be about seven or eight songs, but that's my thing coming out in June.

Henry Bump (30:02):

So once again, Gerelle Porter, AKA Automatic. Yeah make sure to check them out and find him on

Spotify, SoundCloud. And then you want to drop your like Instagram or something like that as well.

What is it?

Gerelle Porter (30:14):

My instagram is almighty.relle

Henry Bump (30:17):

All right, Thank you once again for, you know, coming out and talking with me and then once again, just to close it out. It's the 3rd of May. It's 9:15, and I'm here with Gerelle Porter. AKA automatic. Thank you bro

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Gerelle Porter (30:30):

I appreciate it man, it was an honor.

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