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Official Report (Hansard) Official Report (Hansard) Wednesday 19 March 2014 Volume 93, No 4 Session 2013-2014 Contents Executive Committee Business Local Government Bill: Consideration Stage ..................................................................................... 1 Written Ministerial Statement Local Government Reform: Councillors’ Remuneration and Final Scheme of Allowances ............. 111 Suggested amendments or corrections will be considered by the Editor. They should be sent to: The Editor of Debates, Room 248, Parliament Buildings, Belfast BT4 3XX. Tel: 028 9052 1135 · e-mail: [email protected] to arrive not later than two weeks after publication of this report. Assembly Members Agnew, Steven (North Down) McAleer, Declan (West Tyrone) Allister, Jim (North Antrim) McCallister, John (South Down) Anderson, Sydney (Upper Bann) McCann, Fra (West Belfast) Attwood, Alex (West Belfast) McCann, Ms Jennifer (West Belfast) Beggs, Roy (East Antrim) McCarthy, Kieran (Strangford) Bell, Jonathan (Strangford) McCartney, Raymond (Foyle) Boylan, Cathal (Newry and Armagh) McCausland, Nelson (North Belfast) Boyle, Ms Michaela (West Tyrone) McClarty, David (East Londonderry) Bradley, Dominic (Newry and Armagh) McCorley, Ms Rosaleen (West Belfast) Bradley, Ms Paula (North Belfast) McCrea, Basil (Lagan Valley) Brady, Mickey (Newry and Armagh) McCrea, Ian (Mid Ulster) Buchanan, Thomas (West Tyrone) McDonnell, Alasdair (South Belfast) Byrne, Joe (West Tyrone) McElduff, Barry (West Tyrone) Cameron, Mrs Pam (South Antrim) McGahan, Ms Bronwyn (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Campbell, Gregory (East Londonderry) McGimpsey, Michael (South Belfast) Clarke, Trevor (South Antrim) McGlone, Patsy (Mid Ulster) Cochrane, Mrs Judith (East Belfast) McGuinness, Martin (Mid Ulster) Copeland, Michael (East Belfast) McIlveen, David (North Antrim) Craig, Jonathan (Lagan Valley) McIlveen, Miss Michelle (Strangford) Cree, Leslie (North Down) McKay, Daithí (North Antrim) Dallat, John (East Londonderry) McKevitt, Mrs Karen (South Down) Dickson, Stewart (East Antrim) McKinney, Fearghal (South Belfast) Dobson, Mrs Jo-Anne (Upper Bann) McLaughlin, Ms Maeve (Foyle) Douglas, Sammy (East Belfast) McLaughlin, Mitchel (South Antrim) Dunne, Gordon (North Down) McMullan, Oliver (East Antrim) Durkan, Mark (Foyle) McNarry, David (Strangford) Easton, Alex (North Down) McQuillan, Adrian (East Londonderry) Eastwood, Colum (Foyle) Maginness, Alban (North Belfast) Elliott, Tom (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Maskey, Alex (South Belfast) Farry, Stephen (North Down) Milne, Ian (Mid Ulster) Fearon, Ms Megan (Newry and Armagh) Morrow, The Lord (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Flanagan, Phil (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Moutray, Stephen (Upper Bann) Ford, David (South Antrim) Nesbitt, Mike (Strangford) Foster, Mrs Arlene (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Newton, Robin (East Belfast) Frew, Paul (North Antrim) Ní Chuilín, Ms Carál (North Belfast) Gardiner, Samuel (Upper Bann) Ó hOisín, Cathal (East Londonderry) Girvan, Paul (South Antrim) O'Dowd, John (Upper Bann) Givan, Paul (Lagan Valley) O'Neill, Mrs Michelle (Mid Ulster) Hale, Mrs Brenda (Lagan Valley) Overend, Mrs Sandra (Mid Ulster) Hamilton, Simon (Strangford) Poots, Edwin (Lagan Valley) Hay, William (Speaker) Ramsey, Pat (Foyle) Hazzard, Chris (South Down) Ramsey, Ms Sue (West Belfast) Hilditch, David (East Antrim) Robinson, George (East Londonderry) Humphrey, William (North Belfast) Robinson, Peter (East Belfast) Hussey, Ross (West Tyrone) Rogers, Seán (South Down) Irwin, William (Newry and Armagh) Ross, Alastair (East Antrim) Kelly, Mrs Dolores (Upper Bann) Ruane, Ms Caitríona (South Down) Kelly, Gerry (North Belfast) Sheehan, Pat (West Belfast) Kennedy, Danny (Newry and Armagh) Spratt, Jimmy (South Belfast) Kinahan, Danny (South Antrim) Storey, Mervyn (North Antrim) Lo, Ms Anna (South Belfast) Swann, Robin (North Antrim) Lunn, Trevor (Lagan Valley) Weir, Peter (North Down) Lynch, Seán (Fermanagh and South Tyrone) Wells, Jim (South Down) Lyttle, Chris (East Belfast) Wilson, Sammy (East Antrim) Northern Ireland Assembly Wednesday 19 March 2014 The Assembly met at 10.30 am (Mr Speaker in the Chair). Members observed two minutes' silence. The sitting begun and suspended on 18 March McCallister, Mr F McCann, Ms J McCann, Mr 2014 was resumed at 10.30 am (Mr Speaker in McCarthy, Mr McCartney, Ms McCorley, Mr B the Chair). McCrea, Mr McElduff, Ms McGahan, Mr M McGuinness, Mr McKay, Ms Maeve McLaughlin, Mr Maskey, Mr Milne, Mr Nesbitt, Executive Committee Ms Ní Chuilín, Mr Ó hOisín, Mr O'Dowd, Mrs Business O'Neill, Mrs Overend, Ms Ruane, Mr Sheehan, Mr Swann. Local Government Bill: Tellers for the Ayes: Mr Dickson and Ms Lo Consideration Stage NOES Clause 11 (Arrangements for discharge of functions of council) Mr Anderson, Mr Attwood, Mr Bell, Mr D Bradley, Ms P Bradley, Mr Buchanan, Mr Byrne, Mrs Cameron, Mr Campbell, Mr Clarke, Amendment No 8 agreed to. Mr Craig, Mr Douglas, Mr Dunne, Mr Durkan, Mr Easton, Mr Eastwood, Mrs Foster, Mr Frew, Clause 11, as amended, ordered to stand part Mr Girvan, Mr Givan, Mr Hamilton, Mr Hilditch, of the Bill. Mr Humphrey, Mr Irwin, Mrs D Kelly, Mr McCausland, Mr I McCrea, Mr McGlone, Mr D Clauses 12 to 22 ordered to stand part of the McIlveen, Miss M McIlveen, Mrs McKevitt, Mr Bill. McKinney, Mr McNarry, Mr A Maginness, Lord Morrow, Mr Moutray, Mr Newton, Mr Poots, Mr Clause 23 (Permitted forms of governance) P Ramsey, Mr P Robinson, Mr Rogers, Mr Ross, Mr Spratt, Mr Storey, Mr Weir, Mr Wells. Amendment No 9 proposed: Tellers for the Noes: Mr Eastwood and Mr Wells In page 10, line 11, leave out lines 11 to 13 and Question accordingly agreed to. insert "a committee system unless the council decides Clause 23, as amended, ordered to stand part to operate executive arrangements or of the Bill. prescribed arrangements”.— [Ms Lo.] Clause 24 ordered to stand part of the Bill. Question put, That amendment No 9 be made. Clause 25 (Council executives) The Assembly divided: Amendment No 10 made: In page 11, line 29, Ayes 47; Noes 46. leave out subsection (3) and insert— AYES "(3) The chair and deputy chair of the council shall be non-voting members of the executive Mr Agnew, Mr Allister, Mr Boylan, Ms Boyle, Mr and shall be disregarded for the purpose of Brady, Mrs Cochrane, Mr Cree, Mr Dickson, subsections (4) and (5).”.— [Ms Lo (The Mrs Dobson, Mr Elliott, Dr Farry, Mr Flanagan, Chairperson of the Committee for the Mr Ford, Mr Gardiner, Mr Hazzard, Mr Hussey, Environment).] Mr G Kelly, Mr Kennedy, Mr Kinahan, Ms Lo, Mr Lunn, Mr Lynch, Mr Lyttle, Mr McAleer, Mr 10.45 am 1 Wednesday 19 March 2014 Mr Speaker: I will not call amendment No 11 as Farry, Mr Ford, Mr Gardiner, Mr Hussey, Mr it is mutually exclusive with amendment No 10, Kennedy, Mr Kinahan, Ms Lo, Mr Lunn, Mr which has been made. Order, Members. Lyttle, Mr McCarthy, Mr Nesbitt, Mrs Overend, Amendment No 12 made: In page 11, line 31, Mr Swann. leave out "four" and insert "six".— [Ms Lo (The Chairperson of the Committee for the Tellers for the Ayes: Mr Elliott and Mr Kinahan Environment).] NOES Amendment No 13 made: In page 11, line 34, leave out "four" and insert "six".— [Ms Lo (The Mr Agnew, Mr Anderson, Mr Attwood, Mr Bell, Chairperson of the Committee for the Mr Boylan, Ms Boyle, Mr D Bradley, Ms P Environment).] Bradley, Mr Brady, Mr Buchanan, Mr Byrne, Mrs Cameron, Mr Campbell, Mr Clarke, Mr Clause 25, as amended, ordered to stand part Craig, Mr Douglas, Mr Dunne, Mr Durkan, Mr Easton, Mr Eastwood, Ms Fearon, Mr of the Bill. Flanagan, Mrs Foster, Mr Frew, Mr Girvan, Mr Givan, Mr Hamilton, Mr Hazzard, Mr Hilditch, Clauses 26 to 33 ordered to stand part of the Mr Humphrey, Mr Irwin, Mrs D Kelly, Mr G Bill. Kelly, Mr Lynch, Mr McAleer, Mr McCallister, Mr F McCann, Ms J McCann, Mr McCartney, Mr Clause 34 (Reference of matters to overview McCausland, Ms McCorley, Mr B McCrea, Mr I and scrutiny committee etc.) McCrea, Mr McElduff, Ms McGahan, Mr McGlone, Mr M McGuinness, Mr D McIlveen, Amendment No 14 made: In page 18, line 9, Miss M McIlveen, Mr McKay, Mrs McKevitt, Mr leave out "an excluded" and insert "a McKinney, Ms Maeve McLaughlin, Mr prescribed".— [Mr Durkan (The Minister of the McMullan, Mr McNarry, Mr A Maginness, Mr Environment).] Maskey, Mr Milne, Lord Morrow, Mr Moutray, Mr Newton, Ms Ní Chuilín, Mr Ó hOisín, Mr Amendment No 15 made: In page 18, line 17, O'Dowd, Mrs O'Neill, Mr Poots, Mr P Ramsey, leave out subsection (4).— [Mr Durkan (The Mr G Robinson, Mr P Robinson, Mr Rogers, Mr Minister of the Environment).] Ross, Ms Ruane, Mr Sheehan, Mr Spratt, Mr Storey, Mr Weir, Mr Wells. Clause 34, as amended, ordered to stand part Tellers for the Noes: Mr G Robinson and Mr of the Bill. Rogers Clauses 35 to 43 ordered to stand part of the Question accordingly negatived. Bill. Clause 44 ordered to stand part of the Bill. Clause 44 (Qualified majority) Clause 45 (Power to require decisions to be Amendment No 16 proposed: In page 23, line reconsidered) 40, leave out "Standing orders must" and insert "The Department must by order".— [Mr Elliott.] Amendment No 17 proposed: Question put. In page 24, line 16, at end insert Mr Speaker: Order, Members. I have been advised by party Whips that, in accordance with "(1A) The Department must appoint a panel of Standing Order 27(1A)(b), there is agreement solicitors for the purposes of providing an among the Whips to suspend the three minutes opinion if requested under subsection (2).”.— [Mr Elliott.] and move straight to the vote. Question put. The Assembly divided: The Assembly divided: Ayes 20; Noes 77. AYES Ayes 46;
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