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AMATEUR USERS GROUP NEWSLETTER COMPUTER CLUB Issue number two Fred Moore, editor, 558 Santa Cruz Ave., Menlo Park, Ca. 94025 April 12, 1975 THE CLUB IS ALL OF US Particularly maintain a local resource file with recip­ rocal arrangements with contiguous groups.. . . We’re growing—about 60 members so far. Meetings have beenExchange information.. . . mostly an information and loose which I think is good. Gordon keeps the discussion movinglearning center.. . . to offer a chance to get together as our chairperson. Do we need more of an agenda? and exchange ideas on and hardware.. . . Last time we had general club business and news first, followedserve as information exchange medium; run technic'' discussion & education sessions.. . . I would like to by Gordon giving us a good introduction to what the machine does see information exchange on both hardware and soft­ with the code we lay on it. I’ like to see this topic continuedware; and volume buying and such would be great to get some specific routines followed thru step-by-step. Amateurs thatprices down on electronic equipment.. . . regular we are and limited by our small memories, we are going to be talk­ exchange of information software or hardware for the ing or machine language if we want our CPU to do morebenefit of all... . provide exchange of technical than process what we say. Learning good coding habits can save& access to hardware & software items.. . . info source 8080, etc., clearing house software systems & appli­ hours and headaches as well. cations; maintain computerized xref abilities, and Then again, since most of us don’t have a system up yet, interests..it . . share skills.. . . perform want-ad match­ may be too early for software discussions. What topic do we wanting so that people can find what they want to have. for future meetings? Terminals? Memory? I/O interface pro­ Assemble indexes and consumer infor about types of blems? What? It would be nice to have a program focus for eachthings we usually want: CPU chips, CPU boxes, meeting announced in advance in the newsletter. Anyone wantmodems, terminals, floppydisks, PTR/PTP units, TTL et al chips supply, test equipment available to bring and give a demonstration of her/his system? for loan or buy or rent, generaiiy-useful software, I’m intending to get the newsletter out once a month. As individual specific routines people have written.. . . Lee suggested, it will be mostlya pointer to sources, items, news, share ideas and stop trying to have many small business etc. Sort of an of people, places, articles, abstracts, men trying to make a few dollars. Should try to have and general information of interest to club members. It can some standards, but the club will be healthier if every­ one has different applications—good ideas for the serve as a link between members: who has what to share or whoothers.. . . information exchange, specialized equip­ needs what. And that includes all of us. We each know some­ ment access, group projects.. . . information ex­ thing or have something—even if it is only time or energy. Thechange on software & hardware availability.. . . assumption is we are all learners and doers. Right? The functionobtain and list where current information is avail­ of the club and the newsletter is to facilitate our access to each able, identify worthwhile newsletters, publications. . . . get a computer on line.. . . general interchange other and the micro-world out there. on uses & construction, quantity discount, prying You know something of interest to the club: let us all know.info loose from companys not anxious to waste Put it down on paper, scratch paper, anything, and get it to thetime talking to individuals.. . . people should demo editor. If it is long, just jot a quick descriptive review (use key­ their work to keep club interest high; a good demo words) and tell where it can be had (complete address). Or sendcan make a very interesting meeting. a copy to me to be kept in the club (a filing cabinet). Quite a lot of worthwhile goals! Anymore? If there is a high demand for the item, PCC is willing to xerox I have listed our individual plans, needs, wants, copies at cost. By the way, if you have recent or back issues ofand offerings on the following pages. electronic magazines and micro-computer stuff, how ’bout Thanks to Dan and Dave for the UART donating them to the library? chips and for the scorecard All those new to the club, please fill out a Survey Questionaireincluded in this issue. Thanks to Ed for a which I’ll take to mean you are an active member. Also be sure donation of someED N’s for the library. to put a dollar in the hat at the next meeting—our expenses areThanks to Keith for really spreading the word increasing. Larger donations welcome. about the club. Thanks to Fritz for the cover Looking over the Questionaires that have been turned in,sketch. And a special thanks to Gordon for I see we have a lot of talented, skilled, and imaginative people. Part I of his software presentation and doing The club names suggested are: Infinitesmal Computer Club, a fine job of chairing the meetings. Midget Brains, Steam Beer Computer Group, yComputer Users Group, People’s Computer Club, Eight- Byte Bangers, Micro­ Club Treasury Report: processors. Bay Area Computer Experimentors Group, and INCOME: From Gordon’s suggestion that each member Amateur Computer Club of America. donate a dollar, we collected S23.63 at the first meeting, S22.00 at the second, and S7.00 at the third gathering, The question “What would you like the club to do? Goals?”for a total of S52.63. brought these responses: Perhaps the club can be a central REPRO &EXPENSES: The initial post card announcement cost disemenation point for hard-to-otherwise-get listings & schematics, paper$8.00. First newsletter cost $10.90 for xeroxing ar ’ tape sources and binaries AS WELL AS a place where software written in $4.00 postage. Second meeting card cost 2.29 xero. PL/M be compiled, simulated, etc., for creating working or usable binaries. and $5.20 postage. Total spent S30.39. . . . info exchange on line systems, standardization of info exchange..BALANCE: . . As of April 2, 1975, the club has S22.24. meet to exchange ideas, share skills, problems and solutions. Maintain a The copying and mailing of this newsletter will cost work bench somewhere with a scope, VTVM, etc. Circulate a local news­ most if not more than this amount—leaving the cup­ letter and contribute to a wider circulation newspaper when appropriate.board bare. Suggestions? GORDON'S NOTES:

hardware/software?

LAST MEETING I BROUGHT OP THE SUBJECT OF CROSS ASSEMBLERS. JUDGING BY THE NUMBER OF BLANK STARES, THERE ARE A LOT OF HARDWARE PEOPLE IN CUR MIDST. MAYBE A FEW WORDS MIGHT RE HELPFUL. ONCE YOU GET YOUR WHIZ8ANG-II WORKING ( WHIZSANG-I WAS 03S0LETF BEFORE YOU GOT IT BUILT) YOU WILL BEGIN TO THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WAS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE IT FOR. WHEN YOU DECIDE, YOU WILL HAVE DISCOVERED SOFTWARE. NOW SOFTWARE COMF.S IN ALL SHAPES AND SIZES IF WHIZBANG IS GOING TO DO MORE THAN ONE THING ONLY. AND THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT SOFTWARE IS A LOT MORE DIFFICULT TO BUILD THAN HARDWARE. AND WHAT S WORSE, YOU NEED A LOT OF HARDWARE TO BUILD SOFTWARE, A LOT OF MINIS THAT I'VE USED CAN T EVEN 3E31N TO ASSEMBLE THEIR OWN SOFTWARE. UNTIL THAT MEMORY BOX HAS AT LEAST 4K OF ROOM. NOW SINCE WE ARE NOT THE FIRST TO RUN INTO THE PROBLEM, ONE SOLUTION THAT SOME OF THE OLD TIMERS CAME UP WITH WAS TO USE THAT BIG RLAPWOMP-359 THAT THE BEAN COUNTERS WERE USING TO WRITE YOUR CHECK. HIGH SPEED LINE PRINTER, BEACOUP CORF. BOX, ALL PAID FOR AND JUST SITTING THERE. THE CROSS ASSEMBLER WAS BORN. USE A BIG COMPUTER TO ASSEMBLE INSTRUCTIONS FOR A LITTLE ONE. FINE! BUT WHERE'S THE SOFTWARE FOR THAT? NOW SINCE ONLY A FEW OF US WHO ARE MAKING OUR VERY OWN CAN Sr T ON THE BLAPWOMP WITHOUT BEING CHARGED FOR TIME, AND THOSE OF US WHO CAN CAN'T BE EXPECTED TO ASSEMBLE ALL THE SOFTWARE THIS CLUB IS A.30UT TO PRODUCE, I SUGGEST THAT WE USE A TIME-SHARED COMPUTER INSTEAD OF THE BLAPWOMP, AND) SOME OF THE SOFTWARE PEOPLE IN THF GROUP CAN Gr T THE CROSS ASSEMBLER PROGRAM UR AND WORKING, SO WE CAN ALL HAVE ACCFGS TO IT . THE BILLING ARRANGEMENTS CAN COME LATER. I SUPPOSE THAT I FORGOT THAT MOST OF YOU ARE STILL IN THE THROWS OF GETTING THE HARDWARE WORKING, BUT SOONER.OR LATER WE ARE GOING TO NEED ONE OR v ORE CROSS ASSEMBLERS. WHEN WE DO, I'L L BRING IT UP A G AI N. MEANWHILE, IF ANYBODY WHO HAS A SLICK SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM OF SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT (FOR CHEAP) PLEASE S?EAK UP. A FINAL NOTE. BOB LASH INVITED ME OVER TO SEE HIS 12 BIT MACHINE AND IT REALLY IS A PIP! HE SHOWED ME HOW IT COULD COUNT UPWARDS WITH ONE REGISTER AND DOWNWARDS WITH ANOTHER SIMULTANIOUSLY. ALL THIS BECAUSE IT IS MICRO-CODED. A TRIVIAL PIECE OF PERHAPS EUT NOT A TRIVIAL UNDERTAKING. ESPECIALL CONSIDERING BO* 'S AGE! THIS COMPUTER (AND IT'S OWNER) ARE TRUELY REMARKABLE. A VERY FINE PIECE OF WORK BY ANY ONE'S MEASURE.

NEXT MEETING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16, MITS, Inc. P.O. Box 8636 Albuquerque, 7 PM at Peninsula School in Auditorium room. New Mexico 87108 (tel. 505-265-7553) has Directions: From freeway 101 take the Willow formed an Altair User’s Club. Membership free to everyone who buys an Altair Computer. Road west toward Menlo Park. Turn right Associate membership is $30.00 per year. on Coleman Ave.; turn right on Berkeley Ave.; Membership includes: year subscription to a turn left on Peninsula Way, and you are here. newsletter, service desk phone number, trade The auditorium is in the large old wood house. for program listings from software library, and contest with prizes for best and major program submitted.

John M cCarthy suggests the form ing o f a Bay Area Home Terminal Club.to provide a home service on a time-shared computer (PDP - 10 or PDP - 11 possibly) at $75 estimated per month not including terminal or communication costs. Anyone interested contact him % Dept., Stanford, Ca. 94305 or ARPANET JMC at SU - AI. (Note: John is now in Japan for three months.) Dear Fred, Publications: Local Supply Sources: Sounds like you had a fun meeting. , . i We got a local group meeting together Latest The Computer Hobbyist (Feb.’75) James Electronics last night and had 18people show. Fourhas a good evaluation of P.O. Box 822 Belmont, Ca. 94002 from Santa Barbara, one from Paso Robles by Hal Chamberlin. (tel. 415-592-8097) and the rest from Lompoc & Santa Maria. (has I 's, components, mail order Thanks for the copy of the Bay Area Latest People’s Computer Company issue and phone orders) Newsletter. Lets continue to trade copies. has a lot of good info on home computing. Bill Godbout Electronics Sincerely, Box 2673 Oakland Airport, Ca. 94614 Hal Singer, Micro-8 What To Do A fter You H it Return or (has I C’s, components, memories, etc., P .C C ’s First Book of Computer Games, mail order) Computer Indexing System now available for $6.95 from People’s This is the very crude beginning of a ham- Computer Company P.O. Box 310 International Electronics Unlimited radio-based information service, but it is a be­ Menlo Park, Ca. 94025 (tel. 415-323- P.O. Box 1708 Monterey, Ca. 93940 ginning. Mitt Nodacker, WA7TFE, feels that 6117). This 157 page oversize book has RTTY is the logical mode to use in an infor­ (tel. 408-659-3171) descriptions and sample runs of 48 games mation transfer system, and is working with (components, etc.. mail order) a number of other hams and computer enthusi­ with listings in HP2000F BASIC. asts to set up such a network. Mark Barker, Mike Quinn Electronics K3RZG/2, has suggested in considerable-detail Building 727 a computer indexing system which would allow Design by Donald P. Martin, Oakland Airport large numbers of hams to register their inter­ president o f Martin Research Ltd. ests and areas of competence in a computer (IC's, components, etc.) 1825 South Halsted S t, Chicago, 111. memory. An individual wanting information on (tel. 569-1539) a particular subject could query the computer 60608 (tel. 312-829-6932). This book (by RTTY perhaps) and find out who to con­ covers the design applications of Solid State Music tact. Since there are IC chips available which the 8008. Book available for S75. permit conversion from 5-bit/start/stop Baudot 2102 A Walsh (RTTY) code to 8-bit ASCII (computer) code Sunnyvale, Ca. and vice versa, computer-RTTY tie-ins are (IC's, components, etc.) quite possible. Mitt is coordinating the activities SIGMICRO %ACM, P.O. Box 355 Sunnyvale, of the RTTY Technical Group and if you’d like Ca. 94088 (tel. 415-325-2962) Subscription $2. to get involved in this end of things, write to Haltek Electronics (Announcements of meetings about micro­ him at Box 8557, Pocatello, Idaho 83209. 1690 Plymouth programmed and micro-computers.) (excerptfrom CopthorneW0ORX MacDonald's Mountain View, Ca. column in the March '75 issueCQ of magazine.) Contact Dennis Allison for more info. (buy 8t sell used equipment, components, etc.) MICROCOMPUTER DIGEST, P.O. Box 1167 (tel. 969-0510) COMPUTER NEWSLETTER Cupertino, Ca. 95014 (tel. 408-247-8940) A few of us in Denver are forming a Contact Darrell Crow, editor. Subscription $28. Mini-Computer Exchange support group of experimenters in micro­ (Latest news, developments, applications, pro­ 12601 Henrietta Ave. processors, their peripherals and pro­ ducts, companies, and industry trends in micro­ grams. We are interested in providing a Sunnyvale, Ca. 94086 computers and processors.) clearinghouse distribution service with (used computers, terminals, particular emphasis on the Mark-8 Mini­ buy, sell, 8i trade) computer and TV Typewriter. As many ELECTRONOTES, Newsletter of the Musical (tel. 408-733-4400) are aware, support from manufacturers Engineering Group, 203 Snyder Hill Road, to the Individual experimenter Is prac­ Ithaca, N.Y. 14850. Subscription $16. tically non-existent and comprehensive Contact Bemie Hutchins , editor. Halted Specialties Co. information exchange is difficult among 915 Kifer Road, Sunnyvale, Ca. individuals. We hope that a clearing­ (Over 50 issues of ideas, designs, and revisions (tel. 408-732-1573 or 415-969-1448) house library service will help alleviate of digital electronic music synthesizers) this situation. The first major areas of interest are: RAIN, Environmental Education Center, CROMEMCO 26655 Laurel Lane, Los Altos, Programs, Programming Aids, Circuits Portland State University, P.O. Box 751 (Extensions and Modifications), Periph­ Ca. 94022 (tel. 415-941-2967) offers an image Pordand, Or. 97207 (tel. 503-224-9500) erals (TV Typewriter, Cassette Drives, sensing module kit for S90. Useful as a solid Floppy Disk, etc.), BASIC De­ (Monthly newsletter of ECO-NET. Keyword state T V camera and compatible with digital velopment, Suppliers of Parts and Lit­ index of environmental/energy related and processing systems. erature, General Information. Others (as communications kinds of info in the N.W.) suggested). We expect to produce a monthly news­ Phi - Deck tape transports cost S94.50 in letter containing abstracts of what is INFACT, Community Computer Services available and general information. Any­ 1877 West 4th Ave., Vancouver, .C. unit prices. If we buy 10 to 49 the cost one with an Interest in or a contribution/ (tel. 604-733-8310) Contact Gil Evans. comes down to -S84.78 each. Contact Ken suggestion for the clearinghouse should (Computer-based community informationif you are interested in getting one. Order send a stamped self-addressed envelope system useful as a learning exchange, housingfrom: Individualized Instruction Incorp. to: The Digital Group Clearinghouse, 1901 N. Walnut, Oklahoma City, Ok. 73105 P.O. Box 6528, Denver, CO 80209. registry, electronic bulletin board and We hope this service will prove valu­ community memory. Terminals at Van­ able and rewarding to all participants. couver Community College and UBC.) M& Enterprises P.O.Box 1011 Sunny,.ae, THE DIGITAL GROUP Ca. 94088 offers club members 2102 - l ’s CLEARINGHOUSE (these are 500 nanoseconds) for S4.50 each. Denver, CO Robert Baer 921 Lincoln Ave., Palo Alto, Ca. 94301 (415- Adalberto, "A l" Gonzalez P.O. Box 6167, Stanford, Ca. (415-321-9721) is planning an 8080 paper tape/ reader editor 94305 (327-9047) has MCS4 Prototyping system with and 5 level/ 8 level . Hope to buy an Eclipse 5200 1702 Prom , , TVT, have access system and sell timesharing services (near cost), fo r use as a to 2100 HP computer with disk OS. Designing automated public utility via phone. Have done a bit in analog circuity Measurement system with minicomputers, plan to design and small-scale design in digital circu itry. Have 2-sided printed low cost com puter terminals. Use: CRT games, te x t editing, circuit capability. Equipment: Tektronex 536 scope with Skills: Electronics, have MS in Digital C ircuit Design, have CA,G,T,D,ISI plug-ins , HP V TV M , freq. meter. Suggest access to full electronics lab; programming: have operational Standard number one: CHARACTER SET of all listings to be 8080 cross-assembler on an HP2100. Equipm ent: access to lim ited to that comm on to 5 and 8 level TTY's. full house test equipment and supplies. Need: paper tape reader mechanical or electrical. Dave Bowles 4501 Glen Haven Rd., Soquel, Ca. 95073 (tel. 408-462-1750) has Mark 8 running, planning a paper tape Bernard Greening 1630 Ottawa Ct. #B , Sunnyvale, Ca. substitute using cassette. Use: fo r system control, audio, games. 94087 (tel. 408-732-2236) programming: would like to Skills: hardware. Need:-a terminal, and info about phoneme participate in writing an . generator hardware/software. Suggests: w hy n o t use ASCII . Tom Hedges P.O. Box 7747 Stanford, Ca. 94305 Keith Britton Box 31 Loma Mar, Ca. 94021 (415-879-0880) (tel. 324-0729) planning an intelligent home terminal, is planning to build a TVT for text editing—study & design future plans for a home-made mini with disk. I have of blasting rounds. Skills: some Basic & IBM 360 Assembly. done quite a bit of machine language programming, worked with PL/M (8008/8080) I also have access to John Calhoun 7442 Circle Hill Dr., Oakland, Ca. 94605 source of RDOS operating system for Nova and source • (tel. 638-1414) wants any cross assemblers, interactive cross- for cross-assem. 8 PL/m fo r 8008 & 8080. Need: assemblers, or simulators w hich can be made to run onlBM 370. video display or printer for terminal. Jim Callas 631 N orth San Pedro Road, San Rafael, Ca. 94903 Ed Hughot 10409 Johnson Ave. Cupertino, Ca. 95014 (472-1629) has a TVTypewriter, building a Micro-8, for info (996-8219) have: HP-2114-A, 8K, TTY, card read/punch, storage & retrieval, needs a modem.. cassette, plotter. Planning to get Altair with 24k, TVT. Ralph Campbell 827 University Ave., Palo Alto, Ca. 94301 Use: games, horn finance & accounting, te x t edit, graphics. (329-8217) has an A ltair, plans to build a T V T , use: fo r learning, Need: 80 column TVT, low cost terminal. and Cyclops TV camera hook-up. Skill: , basic, logic. Alex Kamradt 1961 Old Middlefield, Mt. View, Ca.94043 Need: static ram and terminal. (964-9013) has basic timesharing system, working on a Martin Clinton 1945 Edgewood, Palo Alto, Ca. 94303 TVT and modem, use: sharing and making small computer (321-9160) is assembling SWTS C T-1024 terminal kit. system, programming skills. Have terminal available for Needs a modem interface. Comment: Please publish agenda short tim e use. Need: T V T , modem, form feed fo r Dec for meetings. Maybe run specific series of discussions, then terminal. change. Robert Lansdon 27633 Via Cerro Gordo, Los Altos Hills, John Draper 1905 Montecito, Apt 6 Mountain View, Ca. Ca. 94022 (tel. 941-5959) have 8080 system with noise 94040 (tel. 964-9041, data phone 965-4210) working on immunity problems on the unibus, also 16 bit serial CPU. a TVT and modem, use: fourier analysis (real time), skill: Have designed a 24 bit micro-programmed machine; a 16 Electronic engineer experience, basic. Equipm ent: scope, bit non micro-coded machine;linear select associative signal gen., recommends Call Computer. micro-processor. Use: electronic music, fast fourier transforms, transversal filtering. Skills: digital design, Lee Felsenstein 1807 Delaware St., Berkeley, Ca. 94703 error correcting coding , some software experience. (845-4736) has a proven modem circuit (both polarities), Need: a disk. Recommend Chris Clare's book on State designing a "Tom Swift Terminal" stand alone memory bus Machines (McGraw-Hill). Are there others interested in system—terminal of expandable intelligence using any micro­ either programmable architecture or digital signal analysis processor, intended for use as terminal of future community and synthesis? memory public-access information retrival system. Skill: Liza Loop LO*OP Center 170 E. Cotati Ave., Cotati, Ca. electronic design. Would like to organize an east bay arm 94928 (tel. 707-795-0407 or 707-823-6082) have coffee through Lawrence Hall of Science. pot, telephone. Working on an Educational Computer Fritz Fisher (moving to Berkeley) interested in Hybrid Digital Center. Use: programs for 3 to 6 yrs olds in Pilot 73. Optical systems fo r com puter art & games. Experience in I am not primarily a computer person. So my greatest programming graphics—drawing and animation machines. contribution is to help professionals communicate with I know of a paper for a drawing tablet which can be built for total laymen and kids. Have access to apples, fresh eggs, beautiful countryside. Need: TTY, accoustical coupler. $50. Are there any club members who would like to contri­ Michael Fremont 1405 University, Palo Alto, Ca. 94301 bute to LO*OP Center. We need hardware, teachers for (321-5210) currently building a microprocessor of Bob Lash's A lta ir k it classes, programming classes, games classes. and my design, want to support a hard-copy unit, TVT, a cassette, and hopefully, a floppy with it. Use: 1C testing, first-hand experience with systems software, etc. Skill: basic, APL, fortran, and SPL, experience with digital electr. Need: mass memory such as floppy disk and a hard-copy device. Robert Maas P.O. Box 371 Mt. View, Ca. 94040 Larry Platzek 21030 Gardena Dr. Cupertino, Ca. 95014 (323-0720) working on 8080 computer being designed (252-4721) I have a IOMEC model 1011 disk drive & power by Ed McGuire. Want to set up an information retrieval supply & manuals. Need help on controller. Others are and message service network so that all home computers available in Los Angeles area. Want to interface to A lta ir. can talk to each other, including automatic dialing to relay messages. Other uses as text editing, computer Robert R. Reiling 193 Thompson Square, Mt. View, Ca. services (nutition, dating, reminder service, dynamic 94043 have ASCII keyboard, modem, complete power carpooling. Skill; programming mostly in LISP, ALGOL, supply and card cage with cabinet/desk. Planning 8008 assembly, fortran. Need; a terminal & modem for 30 type computer probably with M IL type design, and display terminal with x - y type plot. Use: text editing, games, characters/sec. phone-line, hard-copy or full screen, quiet, schedule networks such as PERT network, amateur radio total cost about $1000 or so, available for month-to-month RTTY communications. Skills: electronics hardware, rental now. Comment; How about more indexing of info publication layout experience, direct mail activities. so that we can effiently find each other and read/listen to Equipment: older scope, small regulated power supplies just what we want instead o f global meetins and agenda. that could be loaned a short time. Need page printer soon. Ken McGinnis Box 2078 San Mateo, Ca. 94401 Comment: really appreciate the work you have put in to (349-1711) have Altair, 2 Phi-Decks, 4K of 2102's and form club; if I may help the club in some way please tell me. plan to get 12K more. Use: business, ledgers, medical Dan Sokol 211 Fall Creek, Felton, Ca. 95018 (335-2282) records. Skill: basic electronics, research ability. Need; working on 8080 loose to play games, sail my boat floppy disk. Comment: Maybe our club could offer navigate, etc. Skill: electronics. Have lets of AM I chips, services to other interested people. We should try to but no RAMS. Need: a terminal. Would like software expand the membership. sessions!!! Jim Mehl P.O. Box 632 Los Gatos, Ca. 95030 W. E. Wallis 2844 Waverley St. Palo A lto, Ca. 94301 working on Mark-8. Use: intelligent terminal, personal (327-5536) have ASR33 on timeshare. Planning to build accounting and record keeping, games, robot experimentation peripherals like disc, tape, vidio terminal (72 char.) Skill: compiler design. Need: on line mass storage. Use: business related, engineering, games, educational. Would like information on PROMs &PROM programming Skills: air conditioning, heavy installations, power wiring. and modem principles. Need: computer.

Ted Netoff 4100 - A 35th Ave. Oakland, Ca. 94619 Steve Wozniak 20800 Homestead Road # 36K (530-3173) working on Scelbi Microcomputer with Dec Cupertino, Ca. 95014 (tel. 255-6666) have TVT my own Writter II and misc. inputs. Use: general purpose computer. design 65 char/line, 28 lines, 40 chips. Have my own Skill: circuit design, Need: 1702's. version of Pong, a called breakthrough, a NR¿. George Oetzel 4090 Orme Ave. Palo Alto, Ca. 94306 reader for cassettes very simple! Working on a 17 chip (493-5199) have unlimited access to 2 or 3 HP 2100 TV chess display (includes 3 stored boards); a 30 chip TV systems. Skill: programming, majority display. Skills: digital design, interfacing, I/O devices, short on time, have schematics. on HP 2100. Tom Pittman 469 E. Branham Ln. San Jose, Ca. 95111 Have MCS-4 system w ith 4K RAMS, floppy, CRT, ASR33, COSMAC with 4K RAM (shares TTY). Designing $500 computer with direct execution BASIC. Use for program development, service business, games. Skills: T TL logic design, programming in assembler, software system design. )

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