Shawneetown Bank Project Memoir

University of Illinois at Springfield

Norris L Brookens Library

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SH26. Shawneetown Bank Project: Memories of a Bank Interviews and memoirs 24 tapes, 3 vols., 839 pp.

Memories of a Bank is a published compilation of abridged oral histories and a documentary inventory relating to the Shawneetown Bank, prepared by Sangamon State University under contract with the Illinois Department of Conservation. The narrators discuss the structure and furnishings of the former State Bank of Illinois, its history, its personnel, the town of Shawneetown and the disastrous 1937 Ohio River flood.

Interviews by Horace Q. Waggoner, 1978 OPEN: see individual names for legal releases. See individual collateral files. See individual names for complete transcripts. See the entry for the Shawneetown Bank Project for links to abstracts. For tapes see individual names.

Archives/Special Collections LIB 144 University of Illinois at Springfield One University Plaza, MS BRK 140 Springfield IL 62703-5407

An Oral History and Documentary Inventory at Old Shawneet om.

RETURN TO: Sangamon State University Atchives Brookens Library, Room 144 (2 17) 786-6520 SANGAMON STATE UNIVERSITY

ORAL HISTORY OFFICE

Memories of a Bank

FINAL REPORT

AN ORAL HISTORY AND DOCUMENTARY

INVENTORY

AT OLD SHAWNEETOWN

VOLUME I:

BASIC REPORT AND APPENDIX A

January 31, 1979 Research Director:

Dr. G. Cullom Davis

Researcher:

Horace Q. Waggoner PREFACE

For 138 years, the "Old Shawr~eetownBank" has looked eastward across the Ohio river up the routes along which so many of the people who settled Illinois came. Left standing in stark majesty since 1942 when the major part of the commurlity moved inland away from the periodic rampages of the river, the five-pillared monument to a bygone era is today being restored to its original grandeur. Soon it will assume a new task as a museum dedicated to the historic past of southeastern Illinois.

The building restoration and the museum operations are being planned and executed by the State of Illinois Department of Con- servation, responsible for the site since the State accepted ownership in 1942. The Department, concerned with authenticity, has augmented the efforts of its on-site supervisor in seeking to determine precisely the look of the building in the past and the uses to which it has been put. With this in mind, an archeological "dig" by Illinois State University was commissioned in 1977.* As a follow-on effort, from a different viewpoint, Sangamon State University was commissioned in 1978 to develop an oral history and documentary inventory at the site.

This final report outlines the work done and presents the results obtained in Sangamon State University's "Shawneetown Project."

* Charles E. Orser, "Uncovering the Secrets Buried at The Old State Bank at Shawneetown, " Illinois Magazine-9 XVII: 3 (March 78) , 37-41. TABLE OF CONTENTS. VOLUME I

Frontispiece ...... Preface ...... Report Organization ...... vi Contents. Volume I ...... vii Introduction ...... Preliminary Activities ...... Historical Sketch ...... Source Inventory ...... Information Collection ......

Documents. Artffacts and Photographs Located

Summary ...... Conclusions and Recommendations ...... Appendix A. Source Inventory ......

vii Memories of a Bank

Memories are of many things. They develop from experience or research. This report is of a search for memories of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown, of its building and of the uses to which that building has been put since the bank closed its doors over a century ago.

The authority for the search was "An Agreement for an Oral History and Documentary Inventory at Shawneetown State Historic Site." A copy is included as Appendix D to this report. The agreement was signed on June 6, 1978, by representatives of the University and of the Depart- ment of Conservation (short for: State of Illinois, Department 05 Conservation, Division of Land and Historic Sites, Historic District 111.)

The overall goal of the project, as stated in the agreement, was "to collect that information available in the geographic region around Shawneetown, that related to the Bank of Illinois and its building, that is in the possession of private individuals." The Bank of Illinois era was identified as 1835 through 1853. Information was to be collected by interviewing living descendents of persons associated with the Bank of Illinois, local historians and persons who had lived or worked in the bank building.

The basis for t\e selection of persons to be interviewed was to be a Source Inventory, This Source Inventory was defined as "a list of individuals associated with the history of the site, living or deceased, who are likely to have, or have had, information or documentary evidence." The Department of Conservation's Research Section was to provide an initial listing of deceased persons, the ~e~artment'sShawneetown site supervisor was to provide an initial listing of living persons. These initial lists were to be expanded and refined by the University and submitted to the Department for approval at two stages of development-- as a Preliminary Source Inventory (work procedure phase I) and as a finalized Source Inventory (work procedure phase 11).

For the information collection phase (work procedure phase III), the Department of Conservation provided for monitoring the work done with the proviso that "Meetings shall be scheduled at two week intervals Whereas oral history techniques could be extensively applied in the Shawneetown area, budget constraints required emphasis on "correspondence" interview techniques for the persons further away.

The University's "Shawneetown Project" was completed withln the guidelines of the basic agreement, as expanded in scope by the early evaluations of the probability of results. An extension from January 31 to March 4 was approved in order to provide time to more adequately produce this final report. The report is structured to outline the work conducted; to present the results for use by those who wish to learn more about the bank, its operations and its people; and to present recommendations for further such projects.

PRELIMINARY ACT IVITP

The project was inaugurated the morning of August 1, with an Oral History Office conference. The purpose was to insure that all personnel understood the relationship of the additional functions, those of a researcher and a secretary, to the ongoing functions of the office. Aside from initial indoctrination for the project secretary in the oral history transcription procedures of the office, the needed adjustments were minimal. Minor changes in physical arrangements of the office were made to accommodate the two extra positions.

Administrative provisions, including those for personnel, accounting, duplicating and supply support, were quickly completed. By the afternoon of the first day, the researcher was able to concentrate on a detailed study of the authority document, the agreement between the Department of Conservation and the University (See Appendix D).

With the requirements of the project generally in mind, the next step was to meet with the Department of Conservation on-site supervisor and to receive the listings of people which were to be developed into the Source Inventory. As it i~appened, the on-site supervisor was in the process of being transferred from the Shawneetom site and an on-sire meeting with that important person could not be scheduled until the week of August 14. The two-week period thus provided was used to refine a record keeping procedure and to initiate background research for the project.

The record keeping procedure included a file drawer which was divided into administration, background research, results and interviewee sections. Of these sections, that for the interviewee records was the most extensive. This section was maintained alphabetically and contained, for each interviewee, a folder for correspondence and collateral materials. For those interviewees with whom an oral history interview was conducted, the tape Two reports were established to provide the basis for keeping the Department of Conservation informed during the conduct of the project. One, a weekly report, provided a summary of the activities during the past week and a projection of the activities expected during the coming week. The other, a monthly report, summarized the status of the project as of the end of that month. These reports, as focal points for dis- cussion, were found to be useful augmentations of the required bi-monthly conferences with the Department of Conservation Research Section. By mutual consent, these conferences were generally conducted by telephone.

The file of reports, with Memorandums for Record prepared on contacts with the Department of Conservation and on internal decisions made, provided a continual record of work done, direction taken and results achieved.

The other activity undertaken during the two-week waiting period was to initiate background research. The research was conducted with two purposes. Firstly, to develop a general background outline of the banking operations and other historical circumstances related to the bank building and, secondly, to start the identification of people who had been associated with the bank or its building. The general background outline would be needed to help structure the interviews and the identification of people would anticipate the requirement to refine the initrI.al listings which the Department of Conservation Research Section and on-site supervisor were to provide.

The background research, which concentrated on the identification of people, continued throughout the project. Data on persons identified as having been associated with the bank, including that developed during interviews, was incorporated in the Source Inventory. The development of the Source Inventory is described under that heading in a later section of this report.

The general background outline of the banking activity and history of the building, as it appeared at the end of the information collection phase of the project, is presented in the following section under the heading Historical Sketch.

HISTORICAL SKETCH

The background research conducted during the project identified six eras of banking operations related to the building. All except the first era involved banking operations in the building itself. The first era was a precursor for the second, the second was the era in which the building was constructed. The four subsequent eras were those of banking operations conducted in the building starting in the years 1854, 1865, Ideally located to serve the Ohio River trade route to New Orleans, the flow of people into Illinois and the local salt works, the bank prospered. A major factor was the federal government's decision to make the bank a depository for the money being collected by the land office which had been established in Shawneetown.

The prosperity of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown may have exerted some influence on the State's legislators. Whether or not this may have been the rase, a bank to be operated by the State was approved during the new State's first legislative session. The enabling Act allvvwed continuation of the bank charters that had been granted by the territorial government, including that of the Bank of Illinois at Shawnee- town along with those for banks at Edwardsville, Elaskaskia and Cairo. Other than this, however, the banking business in I1linois was to be conducted by the States5

The 1818 legislation establishing the State Bank of Illinois was not implemented and was replaced by a new act passed in 1821. From this second action, the State bank was placed in operation. The main bank was located at Vandalia and four branches were established. One branch was located at Shawneetown.

The Shawneetown branch of the State Bank of Illinois began operation with an apportionment of $84,685 from the $300,000 issue of notes made by the parent bank. It is said that this branch originally conducted its business in a log cabin located on the site where the Bank of Illinois 6 at Shawneetown was to construct, in 1839, its five-pillared banking house.

Good management, which appears to have been a characteristic of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown, was not a characteristic of the Shawnee- town branch of the State Bank of Illinois. An investigation ordered by the legislature in 1823 showed that the State Bank of Illinois was a failure. With those of the main bank and of the other branches, the books of the Shawneetown branch were found to be in hopeless disorder. The investigation of the Shawneetown branch indicated that the cashier may have put some $4,800 to personal use and had loaned some $3,750 without security. Banking operations were stopped in 1825, however the branch office was maintained until 1831 as an agency for termination of the bank's affairs.

The competition Erom the Shawneetown branch of the State bank did not help the circumstances of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown. The general economic recession which began in 1820 had already caused the private bank to suspend payments in specie in 1821. By 1823, the continuing depressed

2 Laws of Illinois 1819 (2), 151-157. 6 Opal Deitz , "Historical Map of Old Shawneetown, ~llinois," (Shawneetown, 11: privately published, 1969), Note (1) on reverse of map. The banks were soon involved in the financing of the State's internal improvements program. This program, designed to provide the transportation capabilities needed to further settlement and to provide a means to develop the resources of the state, was formalized by the legislature in 1837. It called for a major canal linking Lake Michigan wi.th the Illinois River, improving other major waterways and building an extensive railroad network to link the various sections of Illinois.

As originally conceived, the costs of the transportation improvements were to be paid from the general revenues of the State, The prosperity of the banks, however, seemed to offer a better solution. These agencies could not only develop the capital, but could also provide the means of managing the financial activity.

To put this change in financial procedure into effect, a major increase in the capital stock level of the State Bank of Illinois was being considered by the legislature in early 1837. The Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown, still operating at the time with a $300,000 capital stock level, followed the developments closely.10 When the level for the State bank was raised, the Rank of Illinois at Shawneetown level was increased to $1,400,000. Of this amount, the State reserved the right to subscribe $1,000,000.

With the increase in capital stock level, the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown went to work to increase its working capital. In 1836 the federal government had decided again to use the institution as a depository for the Shawneetown land office funds. The State granted permission to borrow $250,000 for the purpose of dealing in real estate. By accepting a prerequisite of providing support to the internal improvements program, the bank received a State deposit of $235,000 from surplus federal funds made available for the program. An additional $400,000 was obtained by the sale of internal improvement bonds apportioned from the State's $3,000,000 bond issue. Apparently as a reaction to this successful sale, the State authorized the bank to place the $1,000,000 capital stock, which had been reserved to the State, on its books. Unlike the results of the other actions, this authorization appears to haye been meaningless since the State-owned stock had no financial backing.

There was a "string attached" to the Bank of Illinois at hawn nee town's involvement in the State's internal improvement program. The State required that a second set of nine directors be appointed by the governor to monitor the activities of the bank. Thus, the management was complicated by the necessity of keeping two boards of directors - the State" and the stock- I holders' - informed.

l0~ddyManuscript Collection, letters--John A. McClernand to Henry Eddy, February 19, 1836 and William A. Gatewood to Henry Eddy, February 22, 1837.

%ddy Manuscript Collect ion, letters--William J. Gatewood to Henry Eddy, July 13, 1837; John Siddall to Henry Eddy, July 20, 1.837; Henry Eddy to Joseph Duncan, December 13, 1837; John A, McClernand to Henry Eddy, December 18, 1837; and Thomas Mather to Henry Eddy, December 23, 1837. The building which the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown built for its main bank operations stands at the intersection of old Illinois Route 13 and Main Street. The impressive five-pillared, four-storied building, aligned with the streets of Shawneetown which are about forty-five degrees off the cardinal headings, faces to the southeast, toward the river. The cornerstone was laid on August 3, 1839. We can assume that the January, 1840, directors' meeting was held in one of the spacious rooms, which one is a mystery. Neither the background research nor the interviews of the project disclosed what the original intended uses for the various rooms were. Only the lobby and stairwel.1~lend to reasonable deduct ion.

By 1840, the building existed and in its high-ceilinged rooms Shawneetown's second banking era came to a close. The nation's economic situation brightened a bit as 1842 approached, but a general recession occurred as that year progressed. The date the State had established as a deadline for resumption of payments in specie, June 15, 1842, passed. Such payments could not be resumed. In January, 1843, John Marshall was elected again to the presidency of the Shawneetown bank but, apparently seeing "the hand-wri-ring on the wall," he declined to accept. James Dunlap was elected in his stead.

On March 18, 1843, the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown suspended operations. The bank soon passed into receivership. The records were collected at Jacksonville and, over a number of years, the affairs of Shawneetown's second era of banking were settled. l3

As in the late 18201s, there occurred another period during which Illinois was without banks. The period would last until 1851 when the State legislature passed the Free Banking Act.

The bank building at Shawneetown and the lot on which it stands passed, through the assignees and their trustee, William Thomas, to the ownership of James Dunlap. This transfer occurred in 1853. Dunlap added the lot immediately behind the building to the holding and sold the two lots and the building to A. B. Safford in 1854, Safford's purchase appears to have been on the part of the newly incorporated State Bank of Illinois sixe he sold the property for the same amount, $11,500, to the bank shortly after his purchase. 14

13The Benjamin P. Hinch Manuscript Collection (Springfield, 11: Illinois State Historical Library) contains a number of letters written by persons associated with the bank. At least two of these refer to activities connected with the closure of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown.

140wnership of the property is recorded in the Gallatin County Courthouse. The data presented in the report text is from extracts of the recordings provided the researcher by local historian Lucille Lawler and the Department of Conservation Research Section. Upon the closure of the State Bank of Illinois, the ownership of the building and the two lots reverted, on April 15, 1861, to A. B. Safford, who then fgld the property to Thomas S. Ridgway for $6,000 on September 13, 1861.

Thomas S. Bidgway and his family lived in the building during the fourth era of banking at Shawneetawn. How soon the family moved into the building after acquiring ownership was not determined. At some point during this occupancy a two-story wooden structure was added on the north corner of the building. This structure was built at the head of the steps leading to the second floor entrance at that corner. On "stilts," it covered a portion of the patio between the main building and an out- building, apparently constructed at the same tirn50as the main buildingl which stood along the northeast line of the lot.

The room on the first story of the added wooden structure (on the level of the second story of the main building) was used as a kitchen. The room above the kitchen was a bath. The kitchen, judging from photographs of the added structure and of the out-building, was connected to a wooden structure built as a second story on the out-building.

An additional structure, which may have been built because of the occupancy as living quarters, was a stable. This was a wooden structure placed along the alleyway which bordered the lot behind that on which the main building stands. The balance of this back-lot, at least during the Ridgway era (fourth banking era), was developed as a rose and vegetable garden.

The organizers of the First National Bank of Shawneetown, launched in 1865 as an expansion of a "Peeples and Ridgway" banking operation started in 1862, were John McKee Peeples and Thomas S. Ridgway. The two Inad also been associated in the operation of a general merchandise firm. During 1864, they were in the process of gathering the capital needed to establish the new bank. This included transferring the interest in the general merchandise firm to George A. Ridgway and selling their extensive land holdings in Gallatin and five surrounding counties. By 1866, the First National Bank of Shawneetown, with Peeples as presifent and Ridgway as cashier, was being advertised in the local newspaper.

"~xtract notes from Gallatin County Deed Records provided by local historian Lucille Lawler and by the Research Section, Department of Conservation. Additionally, the Research Section provided the researcher a copy of an abstract which presents a record of ownership of the bank property from 1861 to 1942. 20 Data on the living quarters occupancy of the building is drawn primarily from the oral history and "correspondence" interviews conducted during the project.

21~hawneetownWeekly Mercury October 24, 1861; November 7 and 23, 1861; -9 May 15, 1862; June 17, 1863; July 14, 1864 and September 13, 1866. The last banking era at Slzawneetowfl is associated with The National Bank's operations in the bank building constr~rctedby the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown. It appears that The National Bank moved into the building as the City National Bank moved out.

Aside from the banking operations conducted in the building, this sixth banking era saw the third floor being used by a number of tenants as an apartment dwelling, the second Eloor as a law office in addition to the banking operations and the basement used by the city for offices,

After the crisis of the national bank moratorium in 1933, the banking organization changed its name to "First National Bank in Shawnee- town." The extent of reorganization which occurred at this time was not determined. It was sufficient, at least, to cause the ownership of the building and lot to be transferred from the old to the new organization. This occurred in 1934. The bank had previously, in the early 19201s, sold the lot behind the building to Guy Lambert, operator of the Shawneetown ferry system, who built a home there in 1926.

The search by the federal government for ways to assist local areas recovering from the depression of the 1930's and the major flooding of Shawneerown which occurred in 1937 combined to cause the greater part of Old Shawneetown tf6be moved to New Shawneetawn, three miles further away from the river. The bank operations moved with this migration and, with this move, the last of the six banking eras at Old Shawneetown came to an e.nd .

In 1942, the bank buildi.ng passed first to the ownership of the Housing Authority of Gallatin County then to that of the State of IlLinois.

26An evaluation of the reactions of individuals and groups to this move is presented in Robert W, James, "The Collective Action Involved in the Removal and Relocation of Shawneetown, Illinois, l1 (Phd, Dissertation, University of Illinois, 1942), but more importantly because it had become apparent that a good many prospective interviewees were still being identified, the decision was made to consider the Source Inventory a "livingttdocument. Thus, the search for prospective interviewees was continued throughout the information collection phase and finalized as of January 15.

The living persons list was further expanded to a total. of 111 names at the end of September, 124 at the end of October, 149 at the end of November and 1.51. at the end of December. A refinement of the list, primzirily to transfer the names of those who had been found to be dead to the deceased persons list and to add the names of contacts which had been recorded on the conract lists but for which contact sheets had not been made up, resulted in a final list containing 251 names.

Of the 251 persons who were placed on the Part I listing of the Source Inventory, 207 were prospective interviewees for data on the main bank in Shawneetown, The distribution of the 207 was 164 in the Shawneetown area (which included southwestern Indiana), 10 in the Chicago area, 14 elsewhere in Illinois and 19 outside Illinois. The remaining 44 persons were prospective interviewees for data on the Jacksonville branch of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown. It had been decided, as the information collection phase progressed, that any search for data concerning the branches would be concentrated on Jacksonville. As it turned out, there was insufficient time to develop the Jacksonville extension wf the search.

In the Shawneetown area, prospective interviewees were identified in two ways, personal contact and telephone contact. Starting with the persons identified by Ehe local historian, an effort was made to acquaint the community with the researcher and his purpose. This objective was furthered by circulating in places of business and engaging in conversation with anyone appearing to have time and inclination. Whenever appropriate, the objective of obtaining information which would be useful in restoration of the bank building and its operation as a museum was explained. A good many recommendations were received in this manner, same leading to productive interviews which might not otherwise have been conducted.

A news release was given to the local newspaper editor after each week on-site. These releases called attention to the project, identified the researcher and listed those who had given oral history interviews and those who were scheduled to do so the following week (the field trfps to Shawneetown were scheduled for every other week Erom August 14). This news coverage, plus the word-of-mouth information from those contacted or interviewed, considerably enhanced the ease of addressing the subject with individuals met,

By the time of the fourth on-site week, that of September 25, it was becoming apparent that the personal contacts and interviews were not adequately developing prospective interviewees outside the immediate Section B lists 12 persons documented as having been associated with the State Bank of Illinois which operated in the bank building from 1854 to 1861. The sources of information on these persons are, for the most part, primary sources found in brief surveys at the Illinois State Archives and Illinois State Historical Library as augmented by information provided by local hls~orianLucille Lawler.

Section C lists 18 persons documented as having been associated with the First National Bank of Shawneetown or having been associated with the Ridgway an3 Allen families living in the bank building. This period extends from 1862 to 1911. The sources of information nn these persons represent a transition from predominantly official records documentatkon to predominantly oral history manuscript documentation, Little information was developed in the oral history interviews on the periods before ca. 1900; a great deal of the information developed on the periods after ca. 1900 came from the oral history manuscripts.

Sections D and E list 20 and 29 persons, respectively. These sections list persons associated with the site during the periods 19;2 to 1919, when the City National Bank operated in the bank building, and 1920 to 1942, when The National Bank operated there.

There is some duplication of names in sections C, D and E, accounting for the 204 listings for 195 persons. This resulted, first, from the difficu4ty of determining periods of association for four persons and, secondly, because, although The National Bank did not operate from the bank building until 1920, it seemed appropriate to place information on the activities of four key personnel of that bank with the activities of personnel of the City National Bank.

INFORMATION COZIJXTION c

The search for information was made among the. 251 living persons listed in part I of the Source Inventory (See Appendix A). Four methods of interview were used: oral history, correspondence, telephone and personal. 29 In some instances, various methods were used with a single person, This was particularly true with those who gave oral history interviews since preliminary discussions generally help to place the interviewee more at ease during the tape recorded sessions,

29~"personal" interview, as used in this report, is one conducted face-to-face as in an oral history interview, but in which the dialogue was not tape recorded. The balance of the inputs provided only small "bits" of Information, some, however, of considerable significance. The Information from interviews other than oral history has been correlated and, keyed to the questions of the questionnaire, is presented in the first part of Book 5.

The approach in each interview, regardless of predominant method, was much the same. The interviewee was acquainted with the purpose a£ the project, "sounded out" for information he might have, asked if he knew of the existence of any documents, artifacts or photographs which might pertain and asked if he knew of anyone else who might be a source. For the oral history and correspondence interviews, opportunity was taken to iterate the approach. For oral history, the approach was generally applied in one or more interviews preliminary to the actual tape-recorded session, then again in that session. For correspondence, an introductory letter provided the first iteration and follow-on letters, with the questionnaire, a second. In the telephone and personal interviews, the approach was largely used on a one-time basis.

At the beginning of the project., it had been anticipated that perhaps as many as fifty oral history interviews might be conducted and processed. By September, the probability of information to be obtained as indicated during the development of the Source Inventory caused the objective number to be "scaled down" to some thirty-five.

Considerable preliminary activity was involved in selecting the oral history interviewees who were placed in the Source Inventory. This included discussions with relatives and close friends as well as talks or correspondence with the prospective interviewees themselves. From this activity, by September, the list of "some thirty-five" persons contained 38 names. Of the 38, 28 were in the Shawneetown area, one in Jacksonville, one in Beardstown and 8 in the Chicago area.

The 28 in the Shawneetown area included 8 who were descendents of persons associated with the bank building prior to the end of the "Peeples and Ridgway" era, i.e. ca. 1911, several with family ties as far back as John Marshall. The other 20 persons were expected to have information primarily on the post-1900 eras because they had been associated with tlrt: site from long-time residency, had lived or worked in the bank building or had been closely associated with persons who had lived or worked there. As it turned nut, all 8 of the descendents and 13 of those in the other categories were interviewed. Of the other 7, 3 were dropped from the list because of too little probability of significant information and 4 were started but not completed--3 for interviewee health conditions and 1 because he declined to be interviewed after the interview was scheduled.

Prospective oral history interviewees in Jacksonville, Beardstown and Chicago were being considered in early September because, if the amount: of Information which might. be expected was sufficient to warrant, the smaller than expected number of interviewees being identified in the Shawneetown area might make a transfer of time and funds to these other locations worthwhile. An oral history interview was completed with only allow the direction of recall to "drift." This occurred to a surprisingly small degree. Most interviewees made special effort on their own part to hold their memories to those of the bank. There was also a distinct effort by most interviewees to refrain from statements based on hearsay, even though the researcher, in intentional modification of standard oral history practice for the purposes of the project, was ready to accept it and, in fact, to some extent encouraged it. That only some 2 hours of the total of just under 22 hours of tape-recording was "edited outt1 before processing attests to efforts of the interviewees to address only the subject and then, for the most part, in terms only of their awn experiences.

The evaluation in early September, based on a per-interview time of one hour, indicated the objective of 35 oral history interviews could be processed with the man-hours provided fox the project. In the planning of the project, it had been intended to reduce the standard 20 hours of processing per hour of tape-recording to somewhat over 15 hours. It was anticipated that this could be done by eliminating the auditing, review and rereading steps and reducing the man-hours required for proofreading by having the researcher proofread alone. With experience as the processing progressed, it was soon clear that the auditing step was essential, while the other "short cutting" appeared to be feasible and would not appreciably reduce accuracy. The objective of reducing processing time was not, however, being attained and it could be expected that at least 700 man-hours would be needed for 35 one-hour interviews.

The early indication that at least 20 hours of processing time per hour of tape-recording would be expended was born out by the total experience of the project. The records show that the actual figure was 22.4 with 10.7 of that being expended by the researcher and 11.7 by the secretary. The total man-hours expended in processing 20 tape-recorded hours, which remained after initial tape contents analysis, was 450.

To have processed a total of 35 oral history hours would have approached the limits of man-hours made available for the project. With time allowed for final report preparation, secretarial and clerical time would have been fully expended. Sixty percent of the researcher's time would have been required, allowing only 40 percent for other activities. The main import would have been that the time available for information collection by other methods would have been considerably reduced.

The fact that only 20 tape-recorded hours useful to the project could be developed in the Shawneetown area allowed the collection of information from sources distant from Shawneetown. It was among the distant sources that the great majority of the documents, artifacts and photographs were found. roughly from 1900 to 1910. Fewer persons recalled the 1910 to 1920 period, during which the City National, or t'Mc~elLigott ," Bank operated in the building. Memories of the 1920 to 1942 period were more clear, but like the rest, except where "keyed" to sharply defined events, were growing vague.

The memories developed from research privately conducted were found ta be centered on John Marshall's early banking interests, ca. 3813 to ca. 1823. These memories grew more vague as the subject moved to the second activation, in 1835, of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown, when the bank constructed the objective building, and on to the 1854-3861 period of the State Bank of Illinois. It appeared that there might be more memories of the early days of the t'Peeples and Ridgway" bank operations, which started in 2862, than were recorded in the project, but these were in Milwaukee and not in Shawneetown.

Among the mernories,some 350 documents, artifacts or photographs which pertain to the bank, the bank building or persons associated with the site were identified as in private hands. Some of the documents may provide information on the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown period, but most of the confirmed documents pertain to the last half of the 19th century. Most of the artifacts are from furnishings us& by the Ridgways when they lived in the building. The photographs are predominately from this century.

CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS

1. The "Shawneetown Project" documented the existence among private individuals of a significant degree of consciousness, and a number of documents, artifacts and photographs, concerning the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown, its building and the people associated with the site. The resultant oral history and documentary inventory indicates that the location and recording of these types of information can appreciably augment a research program. Such an inventory should be made an essential part of the research program for each historic site.

2. The memories formed by experience which were recorded in the project ranged from 36 to some 75 years in "age. " Although precision in recall does not seem to relate directly to the "agett of the memory, being perhaps more a matter of the degree of impression at the time of experience, there is evident decrease in total recall as the years go by. Projects which intend to search among memories formed by experience should be conducted as soon as practical after the time of the experiences.

3. The collection of information during the project was intentionally restricted to that pertaining to the target building. As a result, little information was collected on the community and the community life in which Appendix A

SOURCE INVENTORY APPENDIX A

SOURCE INVENTORY

The Source Inventory, "A list of individuals associated with the history of the site, living or deceased, who are likely to have, or have had, information or documentary evidence," is presented in this appendix as finalized at the end of the information collection phase of the project.

The inventory is presented in two parts. Part 1 is the list of living persons identified as prospective interviewees. The format of this part is three columns with a remarks section following the entries for each person. Column 1 provides the source name, address and phone number. Column 2 provides the reason for considering the person as a prospective interviewee. Of first significance is descendency from a person associated with the bank building. Where this was a factor the name or names of the person descended from is given. Where the descendency was considered as a possibility only, the name is followed by "(?) ." Other reasons for considerat ion, such as %ern in bank, " "lived in bank," "local historian ,It and "f adly historian, I' are listed below the known or possible descendency name.

Column 3 indicates whether or not results were attained from the contact(s) with the person. Tf results were attained, the type(s), i.e. information, documents, artifacts and photographs, are indicated. Where attained, details of the results will be found in Appendices C and D under the person's name. Frequently, the information results were recommendation(s) of other sources. Where this was the case, the persons recommended are identified in the remarks section.

The remarks section also provides a record of all contacts (date and method) made with the person (The Department of Conservation Research Section requested this information be included) and, where applicable, states not contacted or contact not complete.

Part IT is the listing of deceased persons associated with the site. This listirg provides, after the name of each person, an abbreviated statement of the association identified. It is to be noted that this is not a complete statement concerning the person but a summary of the information developed by the project in order to confirm an association. To assist in following-up on any information in the statements, the report includes copies of the basic sources used and the statement cites the key pages of the report on which further information may be found. For those instances where a source is not included in the report, full citation is given.

The basic sources used are:

Department of Conservation Research Section, an extract of names, positions in the bank of named persons, key events and dates made from Minute Book B, Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown Directors' Meeting Records, June 8, 1837 to March 18, 1843 (Chicago: Chicago Historical society). A copy of this extract is provided following Part I1 at PO AA-1, rn .-dm +-I ad- z$&!, Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

Barger , Claudetta Richard A. S.Barger (?) Information: 303 E. Illinois Joseph B. Barger I?) Documents : Peoria, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (309) 685-2048 Photographs :

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 3 Oct, questionnaires sent 24 Oct. Contact not complete--No response to correspondence.

Barger , Oorsey Richard A. S. Barger (?) Znf ormat ion : See Remarks Joseph 3. Barger (?) Documents: No Eddyville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 672-4251 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. Mrs. Barger had no information, but recommended her daughters, Claudetta Barger and Lynda Killingsworth, be contacted as they, particularly the latter, were researching the family history.

Barger, Erastus Richard A. S.Barger (?) In£ormat ion : Joseph B. Barger (?) Documents : Eddyville, Illinois Artif acts: Pho : Photographs :

Remarks: Not contacted.

Bar ger , Glenn Richard A. S.Barger (?) Information : See Remarks Rt. 3 Joseph B. Barger (?) Documents : No Eddyville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 672-4221 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. No information himself, recommended daughter, Mrs. William Oakley .

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Campbell, George 3. John Campbell (?) Informat ion: See Remarks Documents : No Creal Springs, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho: (618) 996-3321 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. No information himself, recommended Robert Willis.

Campbell, James Mrs. John Campbell (?) Information: No 1314 S. Granger Documents : No Harrisburg, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 253-3687 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

Campbell, Ollie John Campbell (?) Information: No R.R. 1 Documents : No Carrier Mills, Illinois Artif acts : No Pho: (618) 994-2234 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

Campbell, R. R. Mrs. John Campbell (?) Information: See Remarks 506 N. Campbell Documents: No Harrisburg, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 252-3871 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. She believes there is no connection.

Campbell, Robert Mrs. John Campbell (?) Informt ion : See Remarks R.R. 1 Documents: No Creaf Springs, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 996-3246 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. Probably not connected, came from Missouri about a year ago. ? w U Caveness, Dale Dr. Owner of Artifact Information: No 1901 Organ Documents : No Eldorado , Illinois Artif acts: Yes Pho: (618) 273-3314 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact to confirm 11 Sep. Pictures taken 15 Sep. Telephone contact to check provenance 26 Sep.--Did not know, recommended check with Fred Choisser, son of previous homeowner.

Chamberlain, Joe Long-time Resident Inf ormat ion : Yes R.R. L Documents : Ei o Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3316 Photographs : No

Remarks: Preliminary oral history interview 11 Sep. Scheduled oral history interview for 15 Sep. delayed. Interview rescheduled on 25 Sep. Oral history interview conducted 28 Sep. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

Choisser, Fred Dr. Son of Artifact Owner Inf orrnat ion : Yes Documents: No Eldorado, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho: (618) 273-3100 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 27 Sep, Follow-up telephone call 28 Sep.

Chonko, Joe Local Historian Informat ion : Shaw St. Documents : Harrisburg, Illinois Artifacts: Pho : Photo graphs :

Remarks : Not contacted. (Couldn' t find him)

Davenport, Robert TJ. Mrs. Ira E. Davenport (?) Informat ion : No Documents : No Murrayville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 882-3921 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov.

Davenport, Roy W., Mrs. Ira E. Davenport (?) Information: See Remarks 2 30 Ellen PI. Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Art if acts : No Pho: (217) 245-7490 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov. No information herself, recommended Mrs. K. V. Beerup and Percy Davenport.

Davis, Claude Mrs. James Dunlap Lnformat ion : 1239 W. State Samuel Dunlap Documents : Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts : Pho: (217) 245-2626 Photographs:

Remarks: Not contacted.

Deitz, Opal Local Historian Information: Yes Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts : Yes Pho: (618) 269-3896 Photographs: No

Remarks: Preliminary oral history interview 28 Aug. Oral history interview rescheduled 11 Sep., 25 Sep., and 13 Nov., Mrs. Deitz' illness in each instance precluding the interview. Some information collected in these telephone conversations. Contact not complete. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

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Jones, Paul John T. Jones (?) Information: See Remarks Documents : No Ridgway, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho : Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 13 Sep. No information himself, recommended Mayme Jones.

Jones, Wayne John T. Jones (?) Information: See Remarks Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs: No

Remarks: Personal contact 13 Sep. No information himself, recommended Paul Jones.

Jones, Wayne V. John T. Jones Information: Yes 5672 Longmont Dr. Documents: No Houston, Texas Family Historian Artifacts: Yes Pho: (713) 621-4487 Photographs: No

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 3 Oct. Response received 11 Oct. Follow-up 26 Oct. Response received 31 0ct.--Recommended John Tanner and Mrs. Milton Wetherington. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

Kanedy , Blanche Youth in Shawneetown Informat ion: 102-1/2 N. 13th St. Documents : Mt. Vernon, Illinois Artifacts: Pho : Photographs:

Remarks: Initial telephone contact made by Mrs. Mahala McGehee 5 Sep. Questionnaire sent 24 Oct. Contact not complete--No response to questionnaire. Kirkpatrick, Eddie John Kirkpatrick (?) Informaticn : 174 S. Hardin Documents: Kinchester, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (217) 742-5741 Photographs :

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 5 Dec. Contact not complete--No response to letter.

Kirkpatrick, Edwin John Kirkpatrick (?) Information: 326 Pearl Documents : Winchester, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (217) 742-3732 Photographs :

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 5 Dec. Contact not complete--No response to letter.

Kirkpatrick, L. D. Dr. John Kirkpatrick (?) Information: See Remarks R. R. Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 243-4088 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov. No information himself, recommended Edwin Kirkpatrick.

Kluge, Anna Richard A. S .Barger (?) Information: Joseph B. Barger (?) Documents: Galconda, Illinois Artifacts: Pho : Photographs :

Remarks: Not contacted.

Lackey, Margaret Richard A. S .Barger (?) In£ormation : No Joseph B. Barger (?) Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3043 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact (date-?). Is related to Hinch's of New Haven, not aware of Barger-Hinch relationship. Logsdon, Jess Anne Wife of Descendent In£ormation: No Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact (date-?).

Logsdon, Robert Jr. John M. Peeples (?) Information: Yes R.R. 1 Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho: (618) 269-3324 Photographs: No

Remarks: Personal interview 12 Sep.

Mallotke, W. M. Rev. Research contact Information : 925 Grove Documents : Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (217) 245-6338 Photographs:

Remarks: Personal interview 22 Nov.--Will work with church historian to seek data, Contact not complete.

Martin, Woodrow Long-t ime Resident Informat ion : No 201 W. Logan Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3449 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 13 Nov.

McCabe, Jim Mrs. Alfred Richeson (?) Information : No Documents: No Shawneecown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 14 Sep. Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov.

Miller, Charles R. William Miller (?) Information: No R.R. 2 Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 245-7548 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov. No information himself, recommended his grandfather, Thomas C. Miller.

Miller, Gledda John T. Jones (?) Information: Yes 105 E. Washington Documents : No Carrier Mills, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 994-2220 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.--Will do research and contact researcher. Follow-up letter sent 3 Oct. Questionnaire sent 24 Oct. Contact not complete--No response to letters.

Miller, Lucy L. John M. Peeples Inforrnation : No 1401 East wood Dr. William A. Docker Documents: No Fayetteville, Arkansas John T. Jones Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs : No

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 20 Sep. Questionnaire sent 4 Dec. Response received 14 Dec.--"I do not recall any of the details that you are interested in."

Miller, Thomas C. William Miller (?) Information: Documents: Loami, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (217) 624-3291 Photographs:

Remarks: Introductory letter sent 4 Dec. Contact not complete-No response to letter. Remarks: Provided city records. These were scanned for period 1837-1846.

Nicholson, E. D. Edmund J. Nicholson (?) Information: See Remarks Documents : No New Burnside, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 777-2844 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact (Not at home, talked wldaughter) 26 Sep. Recommended her Nicholson.

Nicholson, Hal David Edmund J. Nicholson (?) Information: See Remarks 504 S. Duncan Documents : No Marion, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 997-4141 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.--No information himself, knows of family historian. Said he would send address. Follow-up letter sent 9 Oct. Contact not complete--No response to letter.

Nicholson, Loyd D. Edmund J. Nicholson (1) Information: Documents : Carrier Mills, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (618) 994-2664 Phorographs:

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.--Will research and write researcher. Contact not complete.

Nicholson, her Edmund J. Nicholson (?) Informat ion : No B.R. 1 Documents: No Creal Springs, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 996-3079 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

Redman, Raymond Mrs. Parmenas Redman I?) Information: Documents: Mt. Vernon, Illinois Artifacts: Pho : Photographs :

Remarks: Not contacted.

Rich, Effi Long-time Resident Information: Yes 501 N. Marshall Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3234 Photographs : No

Remarks: Personal contact 12 Sep.

Richards, Joe See Remarks In£ormat ion : No 217 Wedeking Documents : No Evansville, Indiana Artifacts : No Pho: (812) 424-0657 Photographs : No

Remarks: Responded to Evansville Courier article on the project, saying he had information. Telephone contact 27 Nov.

Richeson, Bernard Alfred Richeson (?) Information: See Remarks (Shell Station) Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs: No

Remarks: Personal contact 14 Sep. No information himself, recommended Glenna Vickery.

Richeson, D. A. Alfred Richeson (?) Informat ion : No (Western Auto) Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho : Photographs : No

Remarks: Personal contacts 12 and 14 Sep. ? C- 4 QJ 2 : rl rlm Ud-IPI I LIFIW~ Sisk, George M. Research Contact Information : No (Old Slave House) Documents : Yes Junction, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 276-4410 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 31 Oct. Personal interview and tour of the musewn 14 Nov. Thank you letter sent 5 kc.

Sisk, Herbert Daniel Wood (?) Information : Documents : Equality, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: Pho: (618) 276-4264 Photographs:

Remarks: Not contacted.

Speer, Ethel Francis Jennings (?) Information: Yes P.O. Box 15 Documents : No Junction, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3789 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep,--Will research for connection, too ill for interview. Preliminary oral history interview 14 Nov. Oral history interview 16 Wov. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

Stevenson B. Jack Fleming Stevenson (?) In£ormat ion : 2201 Mound Road Documents : Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (217) 245-8029 Photographs:

Remarks: Telephone contact attempted 21 Nov.--Out of town. Introductory letter sent 4 Dec, Contact not complete--No response to letter. Remarks: Introductory letter sent 20 Sep. Preliminary oral history interview 26 Sep. Tour of bank building and oral history interview conducted 27 Sep. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

Thomas, Arvie William Thomas (?) Information : No 440 S. Sandy Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 243-1387 Photographs : No

Remarks : Telephone cop-tact 21 Nov.

Thomas, Fred William Thomas (?) Information: No 401 S. East Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 243-1724 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov.

Thomas, Harold William Thomas (?) Information: See Remarks 729 E. Douglas Documents : No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 245-4563 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov. No information himself, recommended Robert Thomas.

Thomas, Robert Mrs. William Thomas (?) Information: See Remarks 126 Pine Documents: No Jacksonville, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (217) 245-7929 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 21 Nov. No information herself, recommended Rev. William Mallotke and Margaret Beflati. .:: " r, .d "WH White, David Leonard White (?) Information: Yes R.R. 2 Documents: No Eldorado, Illinois Family Historian Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 273-3185 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

White, Dianna Leonard White (?) Information: 927 W. Barnett Documents : Harrisburg, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 252-3043 Photographs :

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep,--Said she would inquire. Researcher was to call back, but did not. Contact not complete.

White, Ed. Mrs. Leonard White (?) Informat ion : 1513 Jackson Documents : Eldorado, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 273-5355 Photographs :

Remarks: Not contacted.

White, Holly Leonard White (?) In£ormat ion : R.R. 2 Documents: Galatia, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 252-3213 Photographs:

Remarks: Not contacted.

White, Louva Leonard White (?) Information: (Good Shepherd Nursing Home) Documents: Eldorado, Illinois Art if acts: Pho : Photographs :

Remarks: Not contacted. Wood, Aron Mrs. Daniel Wood (?) Information: See Remarks 916 Walnut Documents : No Eldorado, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 273-8247 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. No information herself, recommended Charles Wood.

Wood, Charles Daniel Wood (?) Information: 1136 W. St. Documents: Eldorado, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 273-8247 Photographs:

Remarks: Not contacted.

Wood, Clayte Daniel Wood (?) Information: See Remarks 128 E. Posey Ave. Documents: No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho: (618) 269-2520 Photo graphs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. No information himself, recommended Herbert Sisk.

Wood, Edison Mrs. Daniel Wood (?) Information: Documents : Junction, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 269-3480 Photographs:

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.--Will research and write to researcher. Contact not complete.

Wood, Elizabeth Daniel Wood (?) Information: No 106 W. Logan Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-4212 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep. Remarks: Telephone contact 26 Sep.

Wright, Pauline Lived in bank Information: Yes 301 W. Posey Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts : No Pho: (618) 269-3162 Photographs: No

Remarks: Preliminary oral history interview 12 Sep. Oral history interview conducted 13 Sep. Thank you letter sent 15 Jan.

York, Delbert Research Contact Information: Loretta Skilled Nursing Home Do cumen t s : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3109 Photographs: No

Remarks: Telephone contacts 31 Oct. and 13 Nov. concerning Paul Hundley oral history interview.

Young, Charles Long-t ime Resident Information: 215 W. Logan Documents : Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: Pho: (618) 269-3284 Photographs :

Remarks: Preliminary oral history interview 29 Aug. He telephoned to cancel oral history interview 11 Sep. Questionnaire sent 25 Oct. Contact not complete--No response to letter.

Young, Florence Long-t ime Resident Information: No 215 W. Logan Documents : No Shawneetown, Illinois Artifacts: No Pho: (618) 269-3284 Photographs : No

Remarks: Telephone contact 29 Aug. Baker, David J.

State's director from Jan. 24, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly until Mar. 31, 1841 when it appears a new state's directorship was appointed (p. AA-4), Also served as director Alton branch, from Feb, 18, 1838 to Jan, 7, 1839 (p. AA-6).

Barger, Richard A. (See S.Bawx, Richard A.).

Beacraft, Aquilla

(May be Beacroft) Director, Jacksonville branch, Feb, 14, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p. AA-5),

Bradford, Robert

State's director from Mar. 31, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 17, 1843 when the bank suspended operations (pp, AA-1 & 31,

Butler, Peter

Director, Jacksonville branch, Feb. 15, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p. AA-5).

Caldwell, Albert Gallatin

Appointed as agent for main bank and for Lawrenceville branch on Mar. 18, 1843--length of service not determined, possibly until Jan, 1, 1844, These appointments appear to have been for the purpose of transferring the Lawrenceville records to Shawnee and then, with those of the main bank, transferring the records to Jacksonville. On Jan. 1, 1844, appointed as attorney for main bank and for Jacksonville branch--length of service not determined, possibly a date in 1945 when he became one of four assigness to close the bank's affairs (pp. AA-1,4 & 7) Is listed as assignee on Apr. 19, 1845, in transfer of bank property from the bank to assignees (Gallatin County Recorder's Office, Record Book P, pp. 286-287). Related to A. S. Badollett through his mother, Sarah (Badollett) Caldwell. Father, John Caldwell, was land office receiver at Shawneetown, probably operating on in-lot 1108 which he purchased on Oct. 3, 1814, from 1814 until his death in 1835. (pp, AB-4 to 6).

Caldwell, John B.

Director, Lawrenceville branch, Feb. 14, 1838 to Jan. 4, 1841 (p. AA-7). Appointed as clerk, Galena branch, on Sept. 25, 1839, Castles, William

Purchased the 25 ft. wide strip off the northeast side of in-lot 1106 (bank building lot) from 0. C. Vanlandingham in 1838 (p. AB-31). Father-in-law of James C. Sloo.

Clawson, Lewis G.

Director, Alton branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-6).

Clay, Porter

State's direchor from Feb, 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 31, 1841 when it appears a new state's directorship was appointed (p, AA-4). Also served as director, Jacksonville Branch, from Feb. 15, 1838 to Jan. 26, 1842 (p. AA-5).

Clubb, S. 8.

Director, Lawrenceville Branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when the branch affairs were passed to Albert G. Caldwell (p. AA-8).

Coffman, Philip

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-5).

Cooper, Isaac

State's director from Mar. 31, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when bank operations were suspended (pp. AA-2 & 4). Cowles , Alfred Director, Alton branch, from Jan. 7, 1839, to Apr. 13, 1839 (p. AA-6). Crenshaw, John

State's director from Jan, 6, 1840 to Mar. 31, 1841. Reappointed on Mar. 31, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when bank operations were suspended (pp, AA-2 & 4). trustee William Thomas on Apr. 4, 1853, then sold the property to Alfred B, Safford on Feb. 20, 1854 (p. AB-36).

Dunlap, Samuel

Agent, Jacksonville branch, from Jan. 1, 1844--length of service not determined, possibly a date in 1945 when he became one of four assignees to close the banks affairs (p. AA-5). Is listed as assignee on Apr. 19, 1845, in transfer of bank property from the bank to assignees (Gallatin County Recorder's Office, Record Book P, pp, 286-287).

Director, Lawrenceville branch, from Jan. 4, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when the branch affairs passed to Albert G. Caldwell (p. AA-8).

Eddy, Henry, Sr.

Commissioned in 1835, with General Moses Rawlings and John Marshall, by Governor Duncan to sell the $100,000 capital stock which had been reserved to the state in the 1816 charter of the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetwon. (Henry Eddy Manuscript collection, Illinois State Historical Library, letter--Joseph Duncan to Henry Eddy, Apr. 20, 1835). Director, main bank, from at least Jun. 8 1837--length of service not determined (p. AA-4). Attorney, main bank, from Mar. 9, 1842--length of service not determined (p. AA-2). Married Mary Jane, daughter of John Marshall (p. AB-18). Henry Eddy, JT., was the father of Amira Wiederhold, prominent local Shawneetown historian until her recent death (p. AB-27). Elizabeth Taylor, who was interviewed during the project, was raised by Mrs. Widerhold after the death of Mrs. Taylor's mother, Alice Eddy. Mrs. Taylor's remembrances of the bank are from visiting with an aunt, Amy (Eddy) Lawler, who lived in the bank building, and from working in the bank for an uncle, George Wiederhold, who was president of The National Bank, both occurrences dating in the 1920's (pp. AB-11 and 27, I3285 & B406).

Edwards, Cyrus

Director, Alton branch from Feb. 14, 1838 to Jan. 10, 1839 (p. AA-6).

Edwards, William

State's director from Mar. 31, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly Mar, 18, 1843, ehen the bank's operations were suspended (pp. AA-2 & 4). Hardin, John J.

Attorney, Alton and Pekin branches, from Mar. 18, 1843, the date these branches were closed--length of service not determined, possibly a date in 1945 when he became one of four assignees to close the bank's affairs (pp. AA-6 & 9). Is listed as assignee on Apr, 19, 1845, in transfer of bank property from the bank to assignees (Gallatin County Recorder's Office, Record Book P, pp. 286-287).

Hawley, Thomas G.

Director, Alton branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined. President, Alton branch, from Jan. 6, 1839-- length of service not determined. Possibility both services ended Aug.11, 1842. (p. AA-6).

Hayes, Joseph

Director, main bank, from Jan. 5, 1840--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when bank operations were buspended (pp. AA-2 & 4).

Hayes, Samuel

Comissioner for formation of bank in 1816 (Territorial Laws, 1816, pp. 11-19).

Hogan , John

Involved in maneuvering for positions In Alton branch which was being organized in 1837 (Henry Eddy Manuscript Collection, Illinois State Historical Library, letters--David J. Baker to Henry Eddy, Sept. 25, 1837; Alfred Cowles to Henry Eddy, Dec. 26, 1837; and John Hogan to Henry Eddy, Feb. 8, 1838). Director, ALton branch from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service unknown, possibly concurrent with his terminatlon as president. President, Alton branch from Feb. 14, 1838 to Apr. 4, 1838. (p. AA-6).

Hope T. M.

President and director, Alton branch, from Apr. 14, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 cp. AA-6).

Hull, Alden

Director, Pekin branch, from Apr. 13, 1839--length of service not determined, possibly Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-9). Lagaw, Wilson

Director, Lawrenceville branch, from Feb, 14, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p, AA-8).

Lane, John

State's director from May 15, 1839 to Apr, 13, 1841, reappointed on the latter date--length of service after 1841 not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when the Bank's operations were suspended (pp. AA-2 & 4).

Leech, Francis M.

Clerk, main bank,fzom Apr.11, 1838 to Oct, 31, 1838 (p, AA42).

Lewis ton, George

State's director from Apr. 14, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when the bank's operations were suspended (pp. AA-2 & 4).

Linn, William

state's director from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly Mar. 31, 1841 when it appears a new state's directorship was appointed (p. AA-4). Director, Alton branch, from Feb, 15, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p. AA-6).

Lockwood, Samuel. D.

President and director, Jacksonville branch, from Feb. 14, 1838 to Mar. 17, 1841 (termination of directorship is assumed to be the same as the presidency) (p. AA-5).

Long, Enoch

Director, Alton branch, from Jan. 7, 1839--length of service not determined (p, AA-6).

McAllister, James

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Jan. 26, 1842--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-5).

McClintoc, Horatio G.

Clerk, Alton branch, from Feb. 16, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-6). Miller, Andrew

Director, Alton branch from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p. An-6).

Miller, Ebenezer T.

Director, Jacksonville branch, Erom Mar. 4, 1840--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (p, AA-5).

Miller, William

Director, Jacksonville branch from Feb. 14, 1838,to Jan. 7, 1839 (p, Ah-5).

Mitchell, Benjamin

Director, Pekin branch from Apr. 13, 1839 to Jan. 4, 1841 (p, AA-6).

Nabb, James

Director, Lawrenceville branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when the branch affairs passed to Albert G. Cladwell (p. AA-8).

Nicholson, Edrnund J.

Director, Main bank, from Jan. 6, 1840--length of service not determined. Appointed to building committee on Mar. 11, 1840-- length of service not determined. (pp. AA-2 & 4) Oakley , Charles

President, Pekin branch, from Apr. 13, 1839 to May 4, 1842. Director, Pekin branch, from Apr. 13, 1839--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842, when agent James Dunlap was appointed. (p. AA-9).

Olney, Nathan

Cashier, Lawrenceville branch, Erom Feb. 14, 1838 until his death on Apr, 3, 1839 (p. AA-8), Redman, Allen

Principal bookkeeper, main bank, from at least Jan. 6, 1840, to at least Jan, 1, 1844 (p. AA-2).

Redman, Pamnus

Director, main bank, from at least Sun. 8, 1837, to his death on Apr. 5, 1839 (p. AA-4). Served on building committee from Feb. 15, 1838 to his death (p. AA-2),

Reid, Alexander

State's director, from Mar. 31, 1841--length of service not determined, possibly until Mar. 18, 1843, when the banking operations were suspended (pp. AA-2 & 4).

Richeson, Alfred

Director, win bank, from Jan. 5, 1840--length of service not determined (p . AA-4). Rives, John

Cashier when the bank was formally organized in 1816. Dates of service not determined. He bought a Shawneetown in-lot on Jun, 1, 1820 (p. AB-13).

Rockwell, Dennis

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Apr. 13, 1839 to Jan. 6, 1840 (p. AA-5).

Rowan, Stephen R.

Director, main bank, from Apr. 8, 1839--length of service not determined. Appointed to building committee on Apr. 22, 1839; r.eappointed on Mar. 11, 1840. Appointed on Jul. 24, 1839 to committee to superintend the laying of the cornerstone, which was laid Aug. 3, 1839. (pp. AA-2, 3 & 4; p. B243) Was Shawneetown land office receiver from 1835 to 1845 (p. AB-6).

Ryan, Ebenezer Z.

Director, Lawrenceville branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when the branch affairs passed to Albert G. Caldwell (p. AA-8). Is listed as assignee on Apr. 19, 1845, in transfer of bank property from the bank to assignees (Gallatin County ~ecorder's office, Record Book P, pp. 286-287).

RET'J2l.I TO: Sctqamon State University Archives Brookens Library, Room 144 (21 7) 786-6520 Slm, TJilliam

State's director, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly until Mar. 31, 1841, when a new state's directorship was appointed (p. AA-4) +

Skidmore, Andrew R,

Director, Alton branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined (p. AA-6).

Sloo, James C.

Director, main bank, from at least Jun. 8, 1837 to Nov. 27, 1839. Appointed to building committee on Feb. 15, 1838, possibly this appointment was terminated also on Nov. 27, 1839. State's director from Jan. 5, 1840--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when bank operations were suspended. (pp. AA-2 & 4) Was Shawneetown land office registrar from 1829 to 1849 succeeding his father, Thomas Sloo, Jr., who held that position from 1814 to 1829. In 1850, inherited through his wife, Judith Castles, an interest in the 25 Et. wide strip of the northeast side of in-lot 1106, the lot on which the bank building stands. Had business interests in the Galena area. (pp. AB-6, 28, 29 & 31.)

Stevenson, Fleming

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Jan. 26, 1842--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug, 11, 1842 (p. AA-5).

Stickney, I. (or J.) Charles

Workman on bank, possibly during original construction (p. AA-3).

Strong, Newton G.

Attorney, Alton branch, from Sun. 6, 1838--length of service not determined (p. AA26).

Symmes, Lgnatius R.

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Apr. 13, 1839-- length of service not determined, possibly until Aug. 11, 1842 (p. AA-5).

Thomas, William

Director, Jacksonville branch, from Feb. 14, 1838; reappointed Webb, E. B.

State's director from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly until Mar. 11, 1841, when a new state's directorship was appointed (p. AA-4). Director, Lawrenceville branch, from Feb. 15, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p. AA-8).

West, Henry W.

State's director from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly until Mar. 31, 1841, when a new state's directorship was appointed (p. AA-4). Director, Alton branch, from Feb. 15, 1838 to Jan. 7, 1839 (p, AA-6),

Wheeler, David T.

Cashier, Alton branch, from Feb. 14, 1838--length of service not determined, possibly to Aug. 11, 1842 (pa AA-6).

White, Leonard

Clerk in Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown during first banking era, 1816-1833, specific dates not determined (p. AB-10). Appointed on Jul. 24, 1839, to committee to superintend the laying of the cornerstone, which was laid on Aug. 3, 1839 (p. AA-3).

Wier, James

Purchased in-lot 1106, lot on which the bank was constructed, and in-lot 1105 from the federal government on Oct. 3, 1814 (p. AB-3).

Wilcox, Charles C.

Cashier, Pekin branch, from Apr. 13, 1839 to May 4, 1842 (p. AA-9). Cashier, Galena branch, from May 4, 1842--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843 when the Board of Directors took action to close the branches (p. AA-7).

Wiles, Thomas

Clerk, Lawrenceville branch, from Apr. 8, 1839--length of service not determined, possibly to Mar. 18, 1843, when the affairs of the branch passed to Albert G. Caldwell (p. AA-8).

Wood, Daniel

Director, main bank, from Jan. 1, 1838--length of service not determined (p . AA-4). Haven, Orlando H.

Incorporator Feb. 20, 1854 (ISA 105.140, p. 135). President from Mar. 28, 1854 to Apr. 28, 1854 (ISA 105,141, p. 293).

Keefer, W. E*

Assistant cashier £om IJov. 14, 1855--length of service not determined (ISA 105.141, p. 293).

Leach, L. B.

Cashier on Jun. 7, 1860 (bank advertisement, Shawneetown Weekly Mercury, Jun, 7, 1860). The beginning and ending dates of this service were not determined. It may be noted that Knox (See under Goodell, R. E.) states that A. B. Safford was "Treasurer" for four years from 1853, being replaced by L. B. Leach. It may also be noted that a letter written by L. B. Leach on Nov. 17, 1858 identifies A. B. Safford as cashier on the letterhead and is signed by L. B. Leach as assistant cashier (Lucille Lawler Manu- script Collection, See Appendix C).

Matteaon, Joel A.

Possibly associated with this banking operation. Knox (See under Goodell, R. E.) states that this bank was organized by Governor Matteson and closed by him as the Civil War approached, Nothing was found during the conduct of the project to confirm a connection, by either Governor Matteson or Goodell, with the bank. It might be pertinent that no directors were identified in the limited research conducted.

Moore, Enoch

Attorney from May 23, 1854 (ISA 105.141, pp. 293 & 295). ~ength of service not determined.

Niles, Lotus

Attorney from May 4, 1854 (ISA 105.141, pp. 293 & 294). Length of service not determined.

Safford, A. B.

Purchased the bank property (In-lot 1105 and part, in-lot 1106 and structures) from James Dunlap on Feb. 20, 1854 (Gallatin County Recorder's Office, Book Q, pp. 164-165). Sold the bank SECTION C

THE FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF SHAWNEETOWN, 1862-1911.

Note: The Newspapers cited, such as the Shawneetown Ileycury,- were consulted in the Illinois State ~isroricall,israryt s Newspaper Collection, microfilm.

Allen, Charles

Officer h bank, ca, 1905 (p. B46)--specific position held and length of service not determined, possibly ending date was in 1909, Lived, with family, in the bank building from ca. 1900 to 1909 (pp. B21, B93 & B185. Letter, Dorothy (Llen) Fargo to researcher, Oct. 9, 1978). Married Helen Ridgway, daughter of Thomas S. Rldgway (pp. AB-37 & B21). Children: Ridgway (deceased), Charles Wesley and Dorothy (pp. B22, B33 & B34),

Allen, Helen

Daughter of Thomas and Jane Ridgway (p. B21). Lived in bank from ca. 1900 to 1909 (pp. B21 & B183, Letter, Dorothy Fargo to researcher, Oct. 19, 1978).

Allen, Ridgway

Son of Charles and Helen Allen (pp. B33 & B34), Lived in bank (pp. B24, B33, B93, B189 & B342).

Day, Butch

Janitor in bank, possibly ca, 1900 to cam 1911 (PP. B74, B114, B269, B376 & l3415). (Note: also listed in Sections D and E.)

Docker, H. 0.

Director from at least Jul. 30. 1868 to at least Jul. 14. 1870 (Shawneetown Mercury, Jul. 30, -1868; Jul. 15, 1869 and ~hy.14, 1870).

Gibbons, Ellen

Cooked in bank, possibly cab 1900 to 1909 (pp. B414 & ~425). (Note: also listed in Section D.)

Hair, B. M.

Vice-president Apr. 8, 1903 (~orothyFargo, detached letterhead dated Apr. 8, 1903, see Appendix C)--beginning and ending date Phile, William D,

Director from at least Sept. 13, 1866--length of service not determined, but not later than Jul, 30, 1868 (Shawneetown Mercury, Sept. 13, 1866; Jul. 30, 1868). Cashier on Apr. 1, 1903 (~orothy Fargo, detached letterhead dated Apr. 8, 1903, See Appendix C). Bank officer, ca, 1905 (p. B46). (Ncte: Metzger, a secondary source cited on p. 6 n, states Phile was assistant cashier from 1865 to 1879, then cashier.)

Ridgway, George A.

Director from at least Sept. 13, 1866 to at least Jul, 14, 1870 (Shawneetown Mercury, Sept. 13, 1866; Jul. 30, 1868; Jul. 15, 1869 & Jul. 14, 1870). Shawneetown merchant, probably purchasing general merchandise enterprise of Jahn M. Peeples and Thomas S. Ridgway when they were collecting capital to start the bank (Shawneetown Weekly Mercury, Oct. 24, Nov. 7, and Nov, 23, 1861; May 15, 1862 and Jun. 17, 1863). Shawneetown Mercury, Jul. 14, 1864 and Sept. 13, 1866). Married Sarah Ellen Caldwell. Father of Thomas C, Ridgway who was father of Edwin R. Ridgway (interviewed in project). (p. AB-40)

Ridgway, Jane

Inherited interests of her husband, Thomas S. Ridgway, in the bank upon his death in 1897. This included title to the bank property. (p. AB-36, Gallatin County ~ecorder'soffice, Will Record C, p. 1, and Inventory Record C, p. 100.) Daughter of William A. Docker (p, AB-36). Sister of Harriet Docker, who married John M. Peeples (pp. AB-20 and B24). Lived in the bank until 1909 (pp. B21, B2.50, B401, B414 and B425. Letter Dorothy (Allen) Fargo to researcher, Oct. 9, 1978).

Ridgway, Thomas S.

Purchased bank property from Alfred F, Safford on Apr. 15, 1861 (Gallatin County ~ecorder'soffice, Book W, p. 294). Cashier from at least Jul. 22, 1865, and director from at least Sept. 13, 1866, to at least Jul. 14, 1870 (Gallatin County Democrat, Jul. 22, 1865. Shawneetown Mercury, Sept. 13, 1866; Jul. 30, 1868; Jul. 15, 1869 and Jul. 14, 1870.). (Note: Metzger, a secondary source cited an p. 6 n, states Ridgway was cashier from 1865 to 1879, then president.) Probably president until his death in 1897 when William A. Peeples became president (pp. AB-36 & B46). Willed the bank property to his wife, Jane (Gallatin County Recorder's office, Will Record C p. 1). Lived, with his family, in the bank building (pp. B28, B250, B401, B405, B414 and B425). Married William A. Docker's daughter, Jane (p. AB-19). Daughter Harriette married B. M. Hair SECTION D

CITY NATIONAL BAMC, 1912 to 1919

(Notes: 1. The National Bank, an entity separate from both the First National Bank and the City National Bank, was active during this era. Since the move- ment of this bank into the objective bank building followed the era of the City National Bank, persons identified with The National Bank are included in this listing where the dates apply. In fact, The National Bank apparently was organized during the ma of the First National Bank; for example, see D. E. Froelich, 2. The newspaper cited, The Gallatin Democrat, was consulted in the 111inois State Historical ~ibrary's Newspaper Collection, microfilm.)

Brinkley, W. H.

Director, City National Bank, from at least Jan. 16, 1919 to at least Jan. 13, 1921 (=Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 16 and 24, 1919; Jan. 13, 1921).

Conditt , Addie

Bookkeeper, City National Bank, on Jan. 13, 1921. May have been associated with the bank before 1919 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 13, 1g21j p, B131).

Day, Butch

Janitor in bank, possibly ca. 1911 to ca. 1919 (pp. B74, B114, B269, B376 & B415). (~ote: also listed in Sections C and E.)

Doherty, Martin

Director, The National Bank, on Jan. 3, 1918 (The Eallatin -Democrat, Jan. 3, 1918), Ed emine, Edward

Vice-president and director, The National Bank, on Jan. 3, 1918 (The Gallatin Demacrat, Jan. 3, 1918). Also involved during this era with the formation of the State Bank of Junction (pp, B459 & Goetzman, Louis W.

President and director, The National Bank, on Jan. 3, 1918 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan, 3, 1918). May have been associated with the bank as early as 1913 (pp. B57, B157, B459 & B460). (Note: also listed in Section E.)

Higgins, Edith

Cooked in bank, possibly ca. 1911 ta ca, 1919 (P. B379) (Note: also listed in Section C.)

Higgins, Mrs.

Cooked in bank, possibly ca. 1911 to ca, 1919 (pp, B414 & B425). (Note: also listed in Section C.)

McKelligott, John

Leased the living quarters of the bank at sometime after 1909, when Mrs. Jane Ridgway and the Charles Allen family moved to Evanston, Iliinois, and before Jan. 30, 1913, when D. E. Froelich purchased the bank property. Lease expired Jun. 4, 1919. Probably instrumental in obtaining lease of the banking quarters of the building for the City National Bank, which lease appears to have existed concurrently with his personal lease. (Abstract of title prepared for Housing Authority of Gallatin County by Charles K. Tioedel, Jul. 3, 1942, p. 6. Letter--Dorothy (Allen) Fargo to researcher, Oct. 9, 1978.), Lived, with his family, in the bank building (pp. B109, B126, B240, R329, B422 and B424). President, City National Bank, on Jun. 28, 1911 (Gallatin County Circuit Clerk's office, Exhibit D to Appraiser's Report, Estate of Jane Ridgway, Box 1). Director, City National Bank in 1919 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 16, 1919). Elected again to the presidency, City National Bank, in 1921 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 13, 1921). Operated the City National Bank in the bank building constructed by the bank of Illinois at Shawneetown-- beginning and ending dates not determined, probably at least from 1916 to 1919 (pp. B239, B240, & B422). (Note: although not specifically confirmed, it would appear that John McKelligott was president of the City National Bank from its organization, ca. 1909, to its liquidation in the 1930's).

Maloney, William

Director, The National Bank, in 1918 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 3, 1918). SECTION E

THE NATIONAL BANK, 1920 to 1942.

(Notes: 1. "The National Bank" changed its name to "First National Bank in Shawneetown" in 1934. 2, The newspaper cited, The Gallatin Democrat, was consulted in the Illinois State Historical Library Newspaper collection, microfilm. 3. The "Abstract of Title" citation refers to an abstract of title prepared for Housing Authority of Gallatin County by Charles K, Roedel, Jul. 3, 1942. Copy provided to the researcher by the Department of Conservation Research Section.)

Brown,

Janitor in bank--full identification and confirmation of perfor- mance of this function not obtained (p. B10).

Day, Butch

Janitor in bank, possibly in 1920's (pp. B74, B114, ~269,~376 and B415). (Note: also listed in Sections C add D.)

Denton, Sam

Lived in bank--dates not determiaed, probably in 1930's (p. CC-7)

Edmundson, Herbert

Lived in bank--dates not determiaed, probably in 1930's (pp, B433 and B443). Edmundson , Prudence

Lived in bank--dates not determined, probably in 1930's (pp. B432 and B443).

Ellis, Raede

President, on May 18, 1935 (Abstract of title, p, 9).

Galt, Max H.

Joined bank in 1915 (p. B57). Conservator of bank, from at least Sept. 11, 1934--length of service not determined (Abstract of title, p, 9). Cashier, from at least May 28, 1835 to at least Jul. 6, 1942 Holbrook, Nellie

Secretary, ca. 1937 (pp. B268 and B269).

Lawler, Amy

Lived in bank during 1920's--specific dates not determined (pp. B119, B123, B126, Bk40, B156, B354, B367, B406, B434, B437).

Lawler, Raphael

Lived in bank during 19207s--specific dates not determined (pp, B119, B126, B140, B156, B367, B406, & B434).

Mace, Lucille

Worked in bank, probably bookkeeper, probably in late 1930's (p. ~131).

Pierson, Bert

Lived in bank, probably in late 1920's and early 1930's--specific dates not determined (pp, B305, B432, B443).

Reed, "~ob"

Township Supervisor, occupied an office in the bank ca. 1937 (p. B270),

Roedel, Charles K.

Director from at least Jan. 3, 1918 to Jan. 11, 1923 (The Gallatin Democrat, Jan. 3, 1918; Jan. 16 and 23, 1919; Jan, 15, 1920; Jan. 13, 1921; Jan. 19, 1932 and Jan. 11, 1923). Vice-president, possibly in mid-1920's (p, B387), definitely on Jul. 6, 1942 (Abstract of title, p, 11). Probably held the presidency in 1937 (p. B107). Lawyer with offices in the bank building probably from the early 1920's,when he practiced in association with his father, Karl Roedel, until 1942, Law practice well known to the oral history narrators (pp. B53, B54, B62, B86, B120, B132, B159, B165, B172, B197, B199, B220, B233, B267, B287, B297, B300, B358, B387, B399 and B454). (Note: also listed in Section D.)

Roedel, . Emma

Secretary to her brother, Charles K. Roedel, who had.a law office in the bank building (pp. B86, B132, B173, B199, B233, B267, B300, B399 and B454). TAB A TO APPENDIX A

Extract from Minute Book B TAB A

BANK OF ILLINOIS (AT SHAWNEETOWN)--HEADQUARTERS

"Minute Book B" [Directors' Records] begin June 8, 1837 March 18, 1843 Suspension of operations

From To President: John Marshall [at least]Jun. 8, 1837 [at least]Jan. 2, 1843 James Dunlap Jan. 2, 1843 ?

Cashier: Jobn Siddall [at least]Jun. 8, 1837 [at least]Jan. 1, 1844

Principal Bookkeeper: Allen Redman [at least]Jan. 6, 1840 [at least]Jan. 1, 1844

Clerks : John S. [L.?] Campbell [Feb.14?]1833 Jan. 6, 1840[?] Francis M. Leech Apr.11, 1838 Oct.31, 1838 John Curran Marshall[at 1eastIJan. 6, 1840 Jan. 2, 1843 John B. Caldwell [at least]Jan, 4, 1841 Jan. 2, 1843

Teller: Jotm S.[~.?]Campbell[at 1eastlJan. 6, 1841 [at 1eastIJan. 1, 1844

Porter: The cashier was authorized to hire a "Porter" on Oct. 21, 1840; no name is provided for this person in the Directors' Records and there is no indication as to whether or not anyone was ever hired.

Attorney Henry Eddy Mar. 9, 1842 A[lbert]G[allatin] Caldwell Jan. 1, 1844

General Agent (to represent bank in suits at Springfield): James Dunlap Dec.21, 1842 ?

Agent : A[lbert]G[allatin] Campbell Mar.18, 1843

Building Committee (Originally appointed 2-15-1838; reappointed 3-11-1840): John Marshall Feb.15, 1838 (reappointed Ilar.11, 1840) Moses M. Rawlings Feb.15, 1838 Mar.11, 1840 Washington A. G. Posey Feb,l5, 1838 (reappointed Mar.11, 1840) Parmenas Redman Feb.15, 1838 Apr. 8, 1839 (died, 4-6-39)

AA- 2 Directors--The date following each name represents the first date in the Directors1 Records that that person's name is shown. At this time I do not know the termination date for most of these people as Directors. Sometimes the Records show people as being State appointed Directors, when this is included I have made this indication on this summary list. Because a person Is shown as a State appointed Director, it should not be assumed that his service as a Director was always in the capacity of being State appointed.

DIRECTORS: From - To John Marshall [at leastlJun. 8. 1837 ? Washington A. G. ~osey[at least]~un. 8; 1837 ? Thomas F. Vaught I I " Jun, 8, 1837 ? Henry Eddy t I " Jun. 8, 1837 ? Ephraim H. Gatewood I' Jun. 8, 1837 ? 11 James C. Sloa " Jun. 8, 1837 Nav.27, 1839 Alexander Kirkpatrick " I' Jun. 8, 1837 ? 11 Parmenas Redman " Jun. 8, 1837 Apr. 8, 1839 (died 4-6-1839) William A. Docker 11 I' Jun. 14, 1837 ? Timothy Guard 11 " Jun.28, 1837 ? Oliver C . Vanlan.dingharnl' " Jul. 5, 1837 ? Muses M, Rawlings I I " Ju1. 26, 1837 ? Daniel Wood Jan. 1, 1838 ? *David Baker Jan. 24, 1838 ? *William Linn Feb.14, 1838 ? *Jesse K. Dubois Feb.14, 1838 ? *E. B. Webb Feb. 14, 1838 ? *William Sim Feb.14, 1838 ? *Porter Clay Feb. 14, 1838 ? *Jams Dunlap Peb.14, 1838 ? *Henry H. West Feb.14, 1838 ? Stephen R. Rowan Apr. 8, 1839 ? William J. Gatewood Apr.17, 1839 ? "John Lane May 15, 1839(also Apr.14, 1841) ? *John T. Davis Jan. 2, 1840 ? *0rvi21 Sexton Jan. 2, 1840(also Apr. 4, 1842) ? Alfred Richeson Jan, 6, 1840 ? Hoseph Hayes Jan. 6, 1840 ? John Thomas Jones Jan. 6, 1840 ? Edmund J. Nicholson Jan. 6, 1840 ? *John Crenshaw Jan, 6, 1840 (also Mar. 31, 1841 ? *James C. Sloo Jan. 6, 1840 ? *Alexander Reid Mar. 31, 1841 ? *Isaac Cooper Mar. 31, 1841 ? *Robert Bradford Mar. 31, 1841 ? *Richard A. S. Barger Mar. 31, 1841 ? *William Edwards Mar.31, 1841 ? *George Lewiston Apr.14, 1841 ? George Akers Jan. 2, 1843 ?

* Denotes State Appointed Directazs. ALTON BRANCH OF THE BANK OF ILLINOIS

Feb. 14, 1838 Board voted to establish branch at Alton March 18, 1843 Board voted to withdraw branches March 18, 1843 All books, papers, etc. to be sent to the bank's "Agency" at Jacksonville

From T o President: John Hogan Feb .l4, 1838 Apr. 4, 1838 T. M. Hope Apr. 4, 1838 Jan. 7, 1839 Thomas G. Hawley Jan. 7, 1839 Aug.11, 1842 [?I

Cashier : David T. Wheeler Feb. 14, 1838 Aug.11, 1842[?]

Clerk: Edward J. 0'Niel Feb.15, 1838 Feb.16, 1838 Horatio G. McClintoc Peb .l6, 1.838 Aug. 11, 1842 [?I

Attorney : Junius Hall & Newton G. Strong Jun.6, 1838 John J. Hardin Mar.18, 1843

Agent : James Dunlap Aug.11, 1842 William H. Campbell Mar.14, 1843

Directors: John Hogan Feb. 14, 1838 ? Andrew R. Skidmore Feb. 14, 1838 ? T. M. Hope Feb. 14, 1838 Jan. 7, James Moore Feb. 14, 1838 Jan. 7, Thomas G. Hawley Feb.14, 1838 Aug.11, Andrew Miller Feb. 14, 1838 Aug.11, Lewis G. Clawson Feb. 14, 1838 Aug.11, Peter W. Randle Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 7, Cyrus Edwards Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 10, William Linn Feb. 15, 1838 Jan. 7, Henry H. West Feb.15, 1838 Jan. 7, David J. Baker Feb .l5, 1838 Jan. 7, Alfred Cowles Jane. 7, 1839 Apr.13, Enoch Long Jan. 7, 1839 ? Charles W. Hunter Jan. 7, 1839 Aug, 11, H. J . VanWaggenan Jan. 7, 1839 Jan. 6, Thomas S. Fay Jan.10, 1839 Apr.13, Moses Forbes Apr.13, 1839 Aug. 11, Samuel Wade Apr.13, 1839 Aug. 11,

AA- 6 LAWRENCEVILLE BRANCH OF THE BANK OF IL.LINOIS

Feb. 14, 1838 Board voted to establish a branch at Lawrenceville. March 18, 1843 Board voted to withdraw branches March 18, 1843 All books, papers, etc. to be removed to Shawneetown

President: Abner Greer

Cashier : Nathan Olney Apr. 8, 1839 (died 4-3-39) Wenery H. Shepherd Mar.18, 1843

Clerk: Edward 5. O'Neil Feb.16, 1838 Henry H. Shepherd Apr. 8, 1839 Thomas S. [? I Wiles hr.18, 1843[?]

Agent : A[lbert] G[allatin]Caldwell

Directors: Abner Greer Peb.14, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] Aaron Shaw Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 7, 1839 S. H. Clubb Feb.14, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] James Nabb Feb.14, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] Joseph Kitchell Feb.14, 1838 Apr.18, 1838 E[benezer] 2. Ryan Feb.14, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] J. B. Colwell [Caldwell?] Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 4, 1841 Wilson Lagow Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 7, 1839 Jacob May Feb.14, 1838 Jan. 4, 1841 Em B. Webb Feb.15, 1038 Jan. 7, 1839 Jesse K. Dubois Feb.15, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] John Mieure Apr.18, 1838 Mar.18, 1843[?] Uri Manley Jan. 7, 1839 Jan, 6, 1840 C. [E.?] M. Eaton Jan. 4, 1841 Mar.18, 1843[?] A. S. Radollett[Badollett] Jan. 4, 1841 Mar.18, 1843[?] William Thorn Jan. 4, 1841 Mar.18, 1843[?] TAB B

Lucille Lawler

Oral History Manuscript TAB B

LUCILLE LAWLER ORAL HISTORY MANUSCRIPT

TRANSCRIPTION FROM TAPES SP-3.1 AND 3.2

PREFACE: This manuscript is a complete transcription of a tape-recorded interview conducted August 18, 1978. The interview, not strictly an oral history interview, was conducted to draw on Mrs. Lawler's knowledge, developed as an active local historian, of the persons associated with the site. The manuscript provides considerable information on the genealogical relationships of the persons one to another. Concentrating on the early years of Shawneetown, the text also provides indications of the economic and social situation in which the Bank of Illinois at Shawneetown operated. Less information is provided on the following eras of Shawneetown banking.

The transcription from the tape was made by the project secretary, Linda Jett. The editing was done by the researcher.

It should be born in mind that this manuscript is a transcript of the spoken word and that the researcher and narrator sought to preserve the informal, conversational style that is inherent in such historical sources. Sangamon State University is not responsible for the factual accuracy of the manuscript, nor for views expressed therein; these are for the user to judge.

AB- 1 Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

Q. Alright. Fine. we'll just hold this for a moment. (Interview was stopped for a few minutes while Mrs. Lawler answered the phone--tape stopped.)

A. He wanted me. He knew my voice. I couldn't have fooled him.

Q. What I was going to say was that south of the 39th parallel, and I'm sure that would include this area, Mr. Hamea has finally located those preemptions. There's an 1807 preemption list and an 1813 preemption list in which those that were south of that line in Illinois could submit their claims to particular land. So, there might be someone in that list that would be of interest to you.

A. Right. But I was just looking then in the list for tin-lots1 1106 and 1105,

Q. Now, En-lod 1106 is what now?

A. The bank. Where the bank is sitting.

Q. The Shawneetown Bank, The big one. A. The big five column . . . Q. Okay.

A. 1x1-lod 1106, according to this paper, was recorded on October 3, 1014, as were all the lots almost all through this area that's close to the river. (Points out area on a large plat of Shawneetown which she had spread out) See. Actually the business district. And it was bought by James W-I-E-R--I thought it was the other wa --Greenville, Kentucky, for £if?-two dollars and fifty cents, in-lot 11B 6, and he bought thelin-lot 1105 for twenty-eight seventy five. ~n-loa105 was behind the bank, We were talking about it up there. I said it was at this little bank. But James Wier bought the--Where your big bank is. He was the first, according to this, the . . . But I do not have the record of who went next,

Q. So, 1106 and 1105 lots are the ones where . . .

A. Right. That's the ones that you're looking at. And I think you're interested in 1107 next door. Was that where the digging was done or was it done in the back part of the bank?

Q. Well, most of the digging was done on the north, north corner, it would be, that . . . A. Okay. Where . . .

AB- 3 Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

Q. At that location, I presume.

A. hat's what we are presuming to a point. But he served from 1814 to 1835. And I find it very interesting that he is receiver of the land office because he's married to Sarah Badollet.

Q. How do you spell Badollet?

A, B-A-D-0-L-L-E-T, Her father was the receiver, or registrar, up at the land office in Vincennes and they were all appointed through the influence of Albert Gallatin, who was . . . This Badollet and Albert Callatin were schoolmates over in Switzerland. They were boyhood friends . They both came to Pennsylvania and Albert Gallatin became Secretary of Treasury, possibly under Thomas Jefferson, and he asked that his friend--after he came over to Pennsylvania, he asked that-- his name was John Badollet--be appointed for land office fellow out here in Vincennes. So, out he comes, real early, 1804 it's opened.

His daughter was--He told how beautiful she was, because I have a book on the Letters that Albert Gallatin wrote to John Badollet. That's a very thick book. And then, Badollet would write letters to Albert Gallatin and he told how his beautiful daughter had married John Caldwell who had come up. John Caldwell worked up there in the Badollet office while John went back to visit, back in Pennsylvania, He bragged John Caldwell being such a fine fellow. And I think he was a lawyer, too. Anyway, Sarah married him and they got themselves appointed down here. And he served from 1814 to 1835.

Then Stephen Rowan, R-0-W-A-N--And that Rowan family came from "My Old Kentucky Home" over in Bartstown, Kentucky, where "My Old Kentucky ~ome"was written by . . .

Q. Stephen Foster.

A. Stephen Foster. And Judge Rowan was there, was his uncle.

Q. Oh, Stephen ~oster'suncle?

A. Yes. And it's very interesting to note, you won't want to record this, but we have a home here in Shawneetown, that Pauline Logsdon lives in out here, that was at one time marked the public .square and it sets up on top of the hill, that's patterned after my old Kentucky home. Maybe you'll get to interview her.

Q. One thing. you've mentioned John Caldwell here, now. Do you recall his being related to the bank in any way?

A. (pause) No, I don' t. Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

But Shawneetown registrar of the U. S. land office--and I'm also interested why they ever laid out such a big town here and why they built such a big bank. And I think a lot of questions--People, especially visitors, come in and they look at this bank and they wonder what in the world did anybody ever put up a building like that and what did they think they were going to have. And you really have to do some--Say, you just conjecture . . . Q. You have to know the settlement pattern first . . .

A. Yes, and you wonder who would be influential enough in Washington, D. C. And I find in reading about Thomas Sloo--When 1 read . . . This was about the English settlement, when George Flower and Birkbeck, when they were coming west, and they had this gal along, you know. They were each one trying to decide who was going to marry her, you know. This whole party met Thomas Sloo in Cincinnati and he showed them how to get over here to the big prairie they were going to-- They had--Earlier George Plower, he had come in the area and he had found out about the good land in Illinois and then he went on back and stayed with Thomas Jefferson the whole winter. So, we'll say Thomas Jefferson knew about the area, too.

Certainly William Henry Harrison did because he was doing this appointing-William Henry Harrison was the governor of Indiana-- and he was appointing Sloo and different people in here for these offices, Caldwell.

And so, I think it had to be somebody that was very influential in Washington that would want to lay out a town this size that Shawneetown is.

They were lucky to find Thomas Sloo, but 1 suppose they all stopped at very small taverns and they--Thomas Sloo, when you read here, it said that he returned to Cincinnati and finally located--He had bad business connections they said in Cincinnati--because I have the Sloo family history--and said that he had reverses and he went back to Cincinnati in 1819. And that was the day that he was coming out with Flower and Birkbeck and all these gals,

Birkbeck brought his nineteen year old daughter, sixteen; fourteen year old son; and a young boy thirteen; and a cousin of George lower's. And he asked this Miss, the neighbor gal that was coming with them, twenty-five years old, he asked her to marry and she turned the old fellow down, who was about fifty-five. And farther on on their trip, when they were coming across Ohio and Indiana, George Flower asked her to marry. I don't know if the old man asked her on the same trip, but she accepted and married George Flower in Vincennes and Birkbeck gave her away as father-of-the-bride but he wouldn't talk to George Flower after that and they built two towns, Wanborough and Albion.

AB- 7 Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

And Isaac White, who was making a mint in salt over here at Equality, which is only about 12 miles, maybe it's that. And he had John Marshall--According to the Leech family history, he had John Marshall--9hey were brother-in-laws now. Harriett Leech married Isaac White. So, he had his brother-in-law come over and help him at the salt licks.

The way the story goes in Shawneetown, John Marshall, he had a--He was looking for a place for a store or to sell merchandise and he came through Shawneetown very likely. And so he decided to set up a store here. So, I don't know. It's one of the stories. But that's both versions.

Anyway, John Marshall then, of course, finally opened up one of the first stores and it was on the lot where you turn to go up, where we used to go across the ferry. He's the farthest down this street-- On that: corner, on that lot, was John Marshall's store. And he had everything under the sun and he was also selling to all these little country stores.

9, Oh. Wholesale.

A. There weren't that many but, okay, there were--They weren't country stores. They'd ga--You know, they were coming here in wagons and as far as Galacia, that was the old town. There wasn't any Harrisburg or Eldorado. There was Galacia or Carmi.

He was sort of wholesale place, too, but the big thing why he thought they needed the bank, I think, was on account of the land office. Because how were they handling all that gold and silver and the men were carrying it in big leather pouches, paying for all this land and also the salt, ~hey'dbring salt for use as a commodity, as was the deerskin. That's where they got the word "buck," you know, They'd throw their deerskins up on the counter. So, John Marshall, and I'd say Michael Jones was another--I haven't made a lot of study on the early banking here but I would say that John Marshall and Michael Jones with John Rives, maybe, as the cashier . . . Q. John . . . What was that name? Rives? A. R-I-V-E-S. I need to look in my book that I've written.

Q. Rives. That's alright.

A. Well, we'll correct it later. But I think he was the cashier. So, there is a question, too, whether--That first bank had opened in 1816--whether it--I think official records will say it was a log bank. But the descendents of this house, or this house, or this brick home that John and Amira Marshall come to, they always say Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

Q, Okay. How about Samuel Hayes?

A. No, I don't. But he's in our county history and he's mentioned, he'll go, he'll be in court proceedings. Be was a resident here and evidently --Let me check real fast and see if he bought some land. (Turns to index in the Volkel document) In the . . . B-A-Y-E-S, And Samuel, on page 22. (Pause while hunting page) Okay, Samuel Hayea. Wow: He bought --On September 25, 1815 he was in Shawneetown and paid two dollars and it doesn't say what he bought. Well, look, See how it goes blank?

Q. Blank. I'll be doggoned.

A. And everything else. But, you know what two dollars looked like. That's what we paid for some of those lots. And, the very inexpensive ones. The very inexpensive ones went two dollars, but if they were on the corner and on business square--The bank, remember, paid hundred fifty-two dollars for theirs, And the other fellow. . Samuel R. Campbell. A. (Pause) Some of the Campbells married into the Posey family. Letts see if Campbell was here. (Looks again at Volkel document index) He better be. Samuel. Okay. Samuel R. ~e's on page 59. (Hunts for page) And . , . Samuel R. Campbell, Okay, On July 4, 1818, his residence was Shawneetown, Illinois, but it's township. He paid sixteen dollars on the southwest, section thirty, five south, nine east, (Rolls out county plat) Five south--thatts five on the map you'd find this--I've looked at these. Five south. He was in White Caunty. Did I say nine east?

Q. Yes.

A. He's in White County on the northern section part of it. That's where he is right there. So, Campbell, then, evidently bought land there. Okay, he bought some more, too. He's got some more. If you're interested, I'll look it up. Campbell. Samuel R. LPagd 65. See what else he bought. This is a later date, Samuel R. On August 10, 1819, at Shawneetown, Illinois, he paid seventy-four dollars and twenty cents, southwest--He7s paying another payment is all. Southwest, section thirty, five south, and nine east. That's the same place. He's paying on that quarter section. Southwest, thirty, and probably-- The next one was . . . Campbell. But I know a Campbell's married-- because in the Posey plot, out at the Westwood Cemetery, there's one of the Poseys married to a Campbell. hat's the only, you know, connection that I know of. Page 69 . . . Q. Okay. Let's see, the officers of this bank where we are now, the Marshall Bank, were John Marshall, Michael Jones and John Rives. Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1 family and Michael Jones, but-iNow, here's John Rives. (Referring again to the Volkel document) John C. Rives. And here it is. R-I-V-E-S. On June 1, 1820, he bought, paid two dollars on in-lot 599. And in-lot 599 was--1t's a little surprising. (Reaches for, plat map)

Q. Here. (Helps extend the map)

A. Okay. But anyway, in-lot--I think they lost money on some of these lots that they bought, Surely, Because they went way out, you know, and noth-ing was ever developed out here. They finally farmed it. All these out-l.ots. This was all .E.arrned. To speak of. But in-lot 599--well, he wasn't too far out of town. Here it is. Here he is.

Q. Back away from the water front, though.

A. Yes. ere's the court house, And he was back where the boat thing is and--A lot just two streets back.

Q. Right out i'oute~ 13 and then to the left.

A. Yes. Where the boat is and then just a block or two back, Now, John Rives bought that lot and paid two dollars. I don't know. He might have had a home there by 1820, because the bank--He was supposed to have been a cashier here in 1816, And he was supposed to have slept on the barrel with a gun, you know.

9. Oh, is that right?

A. Yes. And we've got the barrel downstairs. One like it, 1 mean.

Q. Yes. The lady showed me the other day when I came in.

A. Oh, you've already been--Good.

Q. Wonder. Could we skip on to the 1835 era now?

A. If I know anything about it.

Q. Well, with John Marshall, now, he was still livbng in this house in 1835, I guess, when he got . . . A. Yes.

Q. . . . interested in the big bank down here. A, Yes. Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3,l . Moved to . . . A. Yes. * Q. Well, he moved to Cairo, we know.

A. Did he?

Q. Yes,

A. But I have John Siddall, settled land 1833. You can find that record in the land records in the courihouse. , And I possibly have it written down, but I won't take time to look it up. But I've got it down telling what section he bought. But it's in Equality Township,

Q. Okay,

A. And then, there's a William Siddall. 1832. So it looks like it could have been his brother unless . . . I don't know, Course, there is such a thing that father and a son bought together and late; see, later in life.

Q. How about E. H. Gatewood? He was supposed to be one of the directors for the stockholders.

A. Okay. He married in the Ridgway family. (Unfolds a sheet, perhaps 4 x 6 feet, showing genealogical lines)

Q. g hat's what I'm trying to get organized here. ** A. Okay. I'm going to give you this sheet that George , . . Q. Oh, good. Jim Allen would like to get a copy of that.

A. Ridgway. Okay. Because here's the first John Ridgway and, of course, he came to Shawneetown and--but he's up in Carmi to start with and that's where Thomas Ridgway was born, In Carmi.

* This comment refers to A. B, Safford, cashier of the State Bank of Illinois which operated in the building from 1854 to 1861. The interviewer inadvertently at this point confused Safford with Siddall. Bd * Jr A copy of this sheet is provided at the end of this transcription. See p. AR-43. ED~ Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

A, Now, that last name was . . ,

Q. Now, we were looking at E. H. Gatewood which is probably Ephriam Gatewood, then. A. Yes. I want to see what's . , . 1'm so glad to he has this. (Refers to the Volkel document) Gatewood. Oh, gosh. D, J., I think it's Daniel there. (Pause) But the Gatewood family I find very interesting, too, because--1'm going to write it down, But that William J. Gatewood served in the legislature and was a good friend of Abraham Lincoln's. When he died, Abraham Lincoln was the one that atmounced--He died, I think, 1830. I don't know whether this . . . 9. Would be a little early, then.

A. I'm wondering if this is ~phriam'sson. See, I haven't made any study on that. And I've even looked at the probate records and . . . I can't tell you right off, because I've got too many going in my head now,

But anyway, William J.'S son was called Jay Gatewood. And he went out west, You talk about somebody having a colorful life. He fought in a duel and he killed somebody. And then, he started the San Diego newspaper. And I have the newspapers where they have all about his life. But they wondered how in the world-1 think he was a lawyer--William Gatewood was the lawyer. And had law books in the home. ~t'.wasn'ttoo much trouble to be a lawyer in those days because they'd study under somebody and first thing you know they are a lawyer. (Pause) Here it is. G. W., Ellie and D.J. Gatewood in evidently, White County. But see it didn't ditto right there, But they bought one south, seven east. Then that's way up in Wayne County. I think that was . . .

Okay. He wasn't mentioned there. I can tell you if he's buried in the county. (Picks up cemetery record book* and turns to index) Pretty much. I don't--Okay. Eaga52. ~e'sburied in Westwood Cemetery. Some Gatewood. 1'm not sure which one it's going to be. It's on ma 52. Gatewood. It will be the one that--Well, Elizabeth. Okay. That gives her birthdate and you'll know--1776. Oh, shoot! This one is different. 1835. Consort of William and see we've got a list of the Ridgway marrying Ephriam Gatewood and the . . . Well, it was the grandnephew down here that listed these. But then, maybe

* Glen Miner, Gallatin County, Illinois, Cemeteries (Thomson, IL: Heritage House, 1973). Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

Q, Yes.

A. And William A. Docker was a really good merchant here and he was president of the . . . oh, the town . . . council, whatever they had, Some people call it he was, mayor. I don't think they called it that. But he was when Lafayette came.

Q. Oh, I see. 1825, then.

A. 1825, He welcomed him. He came up the bank to the hotel and his wife evidently was home with some of the kids and didn't get to come. And they drank so much that night that--There's two different stories. One, one of the descendents--This Jones who married into the family, too--that's the grandson* that's writing. I said that he came home and he was drinking a little bit too much and the wife was a little mad. She wouldn't talk to him. So, he had to tell the kids all about it. Walked in and told them all about it, And this Wayne Jones from Houston, Texas, says that they had to take him home in a wheelbarrow. (Laughs)

Q. Well! (Laughter)

A. So he was very colorful.

Q. It must have been a good party. A. Yes. But anyway, he was very wealthy. And one of the daughters married John T. Jones who is ~ichael's son. ~ichael's only son. 1 think that--And inherited all the wealth of Michael Jones. And her name was Hannah. They used that name so much. Hannah and Harriet, And Harriet Docker, this daughter, married John McKee Peeples.

So, that's the old man--You know his associate came home in a wheelbarrow. (Laughs) They were very religious people, I have to add. 1'11 have to say they really were very well thought of. Especially John McKee Peeples and Thomu Ridgway, They both taught Sunday School. And very . . . Course, I could go on and on about .Thomas Ridgway, because--Course, he was secretary of the treasury in the State and when they built Southern Illinois University Old Main Building, when they dedicated that, Thomas Ridgway did the address because he was the president of the Southern Illinois University Board. From Shawneetown. And he was, he was recognized in banking circles because he was the first president

k Wayne Jones of Houston, Texas. Mrs. T,awler had mentioned him earlier in the interview. See p. AB-12 KE~ Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

But the story was and John Allen--The historian from Southern Illinois, here. ~e'sdead now. He wrote "Lore and hgendsl'--said that, "Thomas Posey was the son of Elizabeth Lloyd, the dark-eyed beauty often referred to by George Washington." And he was only sixteen years younger. It would have happened when George was very young and when he was out surveying way out in the sticks, out in West Virginia or wherever, and some people associate that. And I've heard different stories and saying that he married the gal and that Washington's family didn't want anybody in from the sticks. They wanted--They brought the child to the home and had the neighbors to raise him. He was adopted. Well, anyway, that's enough about this parentage cause it isn't terribly important.

Anyway, Thomas ~osey'ason--I've got the whole story on him, but I couldn't recreate it cause I haven't looked at it in a long time. But "Wag" was about the . . . I would say Washington Posey was . . . the third or fourth child. And let me look in here. (Picks up her file of notes)

Q. Then, how did he . . . A. And he married . . . Washington Posey, Okay. Although, he was also--He helped--He was a friend here in this room here. They started the Presbyterian church in the parlor and "Wag" was one of the--I call him "Wag," that wasn't his name. I don't know what they called him.

Q. Yes.

A. He was one of the organizers. He was the only guy, There was about seven women that started the Presbyterian church, because Mrs, Marshall wanted it.

And the Mrs. Posey, Mary Alexander Posey, was the second wife of Thomas and the mother of "Wag." And, now you talk--I've got sixteen letters that--They are copied from up in Springfield. TE you want a picture of the Posey family, read all her letters. She wrote to her son down in Winchester, Kentucky, William. And William was--from that family--was smart enough and kind enough to get them recorded and put in the library. And she tells all about--She tells how Shawneetown-- Now, these are 1816 and 1818,

(Tape stopped as Mrs. Lawler goes to attend another visitor)

A. Oh, Kirkpatrick. Kirkpatrick. I want to look him up--I think the cemetery records are pretty accurate. But they put on--Sometimes the-- Okay. Now, this is going to be William Gatewood, though. Cause it's Equality. See William Gatewood was over there and he taught at their Gallatin Academy and he was a lawyer and he went to the legislature and died in 1830. We've already said that once, but . . . And here's a Jacob Siddall. S-I-D-D-A-L-L, in the Equality cemetery, 1863, and died in 1945. So, there's people in Equality that will be able to tell you something about the Siddalls. And you might be able to see-- One of the best sources over there is George McClain. AB-2 1 Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

1'm sup9osed to be looking for Posey and I've got to look back at my . . . I can't believe there's only--It's on b-age1 54. Okay, it's turned backwards, Okay. We've got General Thomas Posey, he's buried out there, 1750-1818. He had been in the War of Indians, died in Shawneetown and Thomas was his son, died in 1849. And Washington Glassel, that's his second name, "~ag's." And I think that: A was Alexander cause the mother was Mary Alexander. But anyway, Washington Glassel was 1799 to 1843.

And Alexander, the seventh son of General Posey, 1794 to 1840. He was the doctor. And he has a real long will here in--And it's very interesting,because he tells who gets his books, who gets his gold watch, and you never saw so many names of Lucy that were all kin, Mary,Frances and Lucy. There's a whole, whole bunch of that family, until you really get lost in it,

Q, How about Timothy Guard?

A. Okay. He was the big salt maker. Oh! And in the census, you find that he has about 30 slaves. You, I'm just saying this without looking, but it, it just throws you, Because he was one of the--1 would say, then, that he was even bigger salt maker and earlier than John Crenshaw who built the big slave house, Timothy Guard . . . T know there was a Guard married a Lucy Posey,. but I don't know . . . There was a, there was a doctor. But let's see if Timothy Guard is buried in--He's got three--Wait a minute! The doctor's the one that's got three wives. And ot them all three right beside of him. Can you beat that. Guard. baPage~10 and 44. Okay. (Pauses)

I really like the guy that wrote this so I don't have to look in the index. Now here, here is--I run into Campbell. Nancy Campbell, 1800 to 1833. These are some really old people. And it was in memary of her a& Mary Ann. 1815--~e's got two wives. 1815-to 1838, consorts of William C. Campbell. So, he's got his wives all lined up there,

And here is James Siddall. S-I-D-D-A-L-L. 1827 to 1846, son of John and Martha. We've run into Martha once before. But this is John Siddall's son. 1827. 1846.

Okay. Here. This is about right. T. Guard. Is only that T. Died 1843. (Museum attendant enters) Come in. Hi.

MA. Hello. A. This is our gal that . . . Q. We've torn up your area here. Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

A. But I think Michael Jones had it first, b&lo&139. But Kn-109 1140 is right . . . behind it. It's marked. ~t'sgot a little black box for the hotel. You can tell it.

Q. Down, dawn here.

A, Yes. No, that's the Riverside.

Q. Oh,

A. So the--It would be this one. See, it's 1139.

Q. I see. On the other end.

A. And Mike Jones got this corner one. We always thought he got the great big one,. See. He bought that one. Oh, wait! Moses Rawlings bought bn-lac\ 1.140 and Mike Jones had this one.

Q. The one right next to it.

A. He finally bought it off of Jones and built as early as 1820. I just read the account on the--That Russel Birk wrote when we had-- We have a marker up there in front of the Rawlings Hotel. And, I think he--Okay. He built it by 1821.

Q. Did he marry into any of the other families?

A, Not that I know about, I think he finally went--1 read it out of a book and I do not own the book and I was--Too long since I read it-- but I, I think he sold it . . . rather soon and the hotel, then, de- teriorated soon after that, according to Russell Birk that wrote that piece. He went to the Cairo area.

Q. I see,

A. But . . . he bought a lot of land here, according to this. And evidently, he's not buried in our county either cause--1 can check that real fast. (Refers again to the cemetery record book) Rawlings, 38, 45. I'm saying that he isn't buried here. Maybe the man . . . Qo Came home.

A. Maybe he came back to good country again. Oh, for heavens sakes! He's in Buck Cemetery. Moses Rawlings. And this had to be the guy. He died 1838 in his 53rd year. After my saying that he wasn't! Well, he did leave because--According to the book I read it in--But he came back, I guess. And then . . , Let's see.

Qo How about P. Redman? Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.1

Q. Oh, really?

A. Yes. we've got this cemetery record. So, they come in here and pay and do research, don't they Kathleen? (Speaks to museum attendant) And there was a Marshall Rawlings, 1834 to 1855. So, that might have been their son, you know, by the mother being born in 1808, she would have been 27. It would be likely. And the-It's buried in the area, cause they've got it right under Henrietta Rawlings.

Q. Now, the Rawlings weren't connected in any way with the other families, the Poseys or the Ridways or any others, that you know of?

A. As far as I know, they weren't.

Q. Okay. The next one on this list is Henry Eddy,

A, Oh, gosh!

Q. I think we've sald enough about him at the moment.

A. But he was the newspaperman. He was a lawyer, a Legislator, and of course, he married the second daughter, Mary . . . He married Mary Lech-- Wait a minute --Marshall I Hz mother was a Leech. Mary Lech who was born in 1810. Itenry Eddy, of course, is--I have a long list-- Because he's not in the cemetery, I guess. This fellow that wrote this book, though, when he knew something about the family, I think he put it on. I don't believe it's a11 on the cemetery records. I can't believe it is. But maybe it is. Here. The father, Nathan Eddy, he died out here and this is Elm Grove where you're going to visit.

A. Curt Taylor here, that's the summer home of Henry Eddy.

Q. Oh, I see. Yes. I understood that.

A. And they've got the desk of Henry Eddy, mainly.

Anyway, Nathan came from Plymouth, Massachusetts and--They've got this wrong, said he died in 1943. It's 1843. His son, Henry, was born in Vermont, 1798, and he died in 1849, And his wife was Mary Jane Marshall that was born in 1810, died 1878. She was the daughter of John Marshall and she was born at Vincennes, And she died at Elm Grove farm. Mary Jane- hat's Henry--she was Mary Jane Marshall here.

And their son--Now, Elizabeth Taylor can tell you the line how it goes down. But anyway, one of their sons was an Eddy and his daughter was Amira Wiederhold. And . . . and that's an aunt. Anyway, I believe Elizabeth ~a~lor'smother's name was Alice Eddy. And her mother died Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.2

This Harriet Grandison was one of the daughters of Isaac and . . . the mother, I forget whether her name was Harriee-Rut anyway, it was Amy ~ee,ch'ssister. And they had three, they had Juliet, Harriet and George. .And I said George and Harriet went over to Cincinnati to take dancing lessons and fencing and all that real culture they were interes,ted in and building a fine home.

White Hall up near Vincennes had an inner court and it was real fancy, And it wan there--Elizabeth Taylor, in her time, I think, has seen White Hall with Mrs, Wiederhold, They went up to see cause that was their relatives. But the Lechs of course, are kin and the John Marshall family here, the mother was a Lfech. And anyway, Harriet Grandison White married--Who were you asking about now?

Q. James C.

A. No, I didn't really know James C, that much, but I'm telling about his brother being a success. Albert Gallatin. And see, they're all naming them after the Albert Gallatin that they knew back in the Caldwell family and--the John Badollet, or whatever I called him, the registrar of the land office up there--that first Albert Gallatin that was Secretary of Treasury under Thomas Jefferson. But Albert Gallatin Sloo was the son of Thomas $100, I think here, and also James C. Sloo was a son.

And Albert Gallatin was riding a horse--Okay, these people from Equality, after the husband got killed in Tippecanoe, went to White Hall and got it all finished. They had plenty of money to finish it in high style. So then, while Albert Gallatin Sloo was riding up to Vincennes, his horse stepped in a hole and the horse broke its leg and the rider also broke his leg. He yelled and was carried to White Hall. They heard him. He was that close. And fell in love with Harriet Grandison White.

Be had a lot of grandiose plans and evidently--Course, his father had run for governox and he was also, he was in the Senate. I mean they were well educated and also ambitious people. So, this Albert Gallatin had something to do with carrying the mail and he was going to build a line across to Mexico, across the Panama Canal and he spent a million dollars in getting it all lined up, but he lost some of that because the Mexican government, you know, they're a bit shakey. They don't deal like we do, But he was successful in--He was either-It was in carrying mail or it was in that area. And James C. Sloo, then, tried to get a corner of the lead mines at Galena. Is that right? Is that the one you're talking about?

Q. Well, I don't know about that. Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.2

A. I know.

Q. . . .director in the bank.

A, I just know. Okay. I've got one Sloo buried in--Record of-- This book is not really complete but it's more complete than tramping around over . . . Q. The cemetery itself. A. . . . cemetery trying to find something. In Buck Cemetery, I believe, that . . . Okay. We've got a son of James Sloo--1 think this is James C. Sloo married Judith Castles (Refers to file of notes) and Judith--And this was how James C. Sloo got into the bank, because William Castles owned part of it, You look on this list. Right here. Okay. These are--In 1849--1845, the Bank of Illinois--1838, the very first, 0, C. Vanlandingham, that's EA-loL 1106, part 1106" was to William Castles for a thousand dollars. So, then the man died in 1849, because Robert Castles is an heir of William Castles. And he's selling to John Tunnels and that's an administrator's deed and he sells part of Ei-lod 1106.

Then James C. Sloo, and it says husband of Judith Castles Sloo, and it's 1850. And this John Tunnels sells to E. H. Ridgway, administrator of part, l%-loFl 1106. And it's an administrator thing cause they're just getting $91. And James C. Sl.00 to Michael Kelly Lawler. And that's an administration thing because Michael Kelly then turns around and sells it to somebody else there for $100 and it's all part of 1106 and that's the lot where the bank, that column bank . . .

And Joseph Castles and Castle's heirs to attorney John Olney, and it was a power of attorney, and that was part of 1106, $492. And John Olney is married into the Ridgway family. Look, That very last name there, some place. John Olney.

Q. Yes. Elizabeth married John Olney.

A. Okay, But he's an attorney here. I think he's got more to do than--We haven't got into the Ridgways. The Ridgways didn't get into the bank till 1865. So, these are all the people that are--The bank's

* The "part, in-lot 1106" to which Mrs. Lawler is referring here is the "25 foot strip1'on the northeast side of the in-lot. The ownership of the balance of the in-lot, as extracted from the Gallatin County recorder's records, is outlined in a copy of that extraction placed at the end of this transcription. See p. u-45, ED

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, I'll be right back.

A. Okay, don't hurry. I don't see anybody coming. .

MA. Okay. I just might go on up to New Shawneetown.

A. Okay.

See, I know I bring a lot of books, but the book that 1 copied in land records, I did not bring that.

A. I, you'll probab1.y see me again. If it would help,

Q. Wonder if we c.ould skip to the next bank, That one, the 1835 bank, kind of phased out and--Or let me ask this question, Do you know of any other people--Than those I've listed here. These are the stock- holder's directors, there's a long list of state directors that are involved--but do you know of any of the officers of that 1835 bank that-- other than John Marshall and John Siddall?

A. No, I don't. I'd generally have to read about them because . . . Q, On the 1853 bank now, I think we've pretty well proven that governor Matteson did not buy the bank or support it and put his son, Goodell, in. It seems that it was started by the Ridgways and on down that line and involved in that?

A. No, I don't.

Q. Well, I can't seem to . . . A. Cause I'd have to--When I was writing my book, I was really reading a lot on the bank. But I had to condense it so. You know. Every page I knew was going to cost me ten dollars. I read a lot about the bank. And I had to,*you know, to make a statement about something. You'd have to read an awful lot. But if I don't write it down or review it a lot, then I forget what I read. But I'm sure the . . . Q. Okay. Let's see, now. We have the cashier of that 1854 bank. Actually was Alfred B. Safford, Do you know Alfred B. Saiford and how he related to any of the famil.ies here?

A. No. I really thought he came from away from here.

Q. Yes. He came from Joliet.

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A. And they had a village down there. It had "brick row, "log row" andI1box row," By their houses, box houses and log houses and brick, and now everything is gone.

Q. Is that right? Nothing there at all.

A, Right, It's all being strip mined and--Shoot!

Q. How about a W, E. Keefew?

A, Now, that name I do not know but I can see what we have here in the cemetery records. Keefer.

Q. He was the assistant cashier, so he should have been in the area.

A, (Pause) It's K-I-E?

Q. No. Well, I have K-E-E.

A. How?

A. Okay.

A. No. No. Q. Okay. Now, let's see. We're up to the . . . I said Safford came from Joliet. That's not necessarily true. So, in 1865 was the incor- poration of the last bank, with Thomas S. Ridgway and John McKee Peeples.

A. Okay. Before--Yes, thatls right, hat's what ~'vehad. You didn't metrtion James Durrlap,

Q. Well, I didn't. Now, was he in this area? He's listed as from Jacksonville in most of the . . .

A. I bet it was. hat's why I didn't think it was. (Refers to her file of nates) And William Thomas, trustee, 1853, to James Dunlap. That was the bank. Eleven hundred dollars. James Wier to Lloyd Posey. This was lin-10-C. 1105. The bank finally owned 1105, the lot, the big lot behind them and all the way down to the other street. And Lloyd Posey. This was hn-lo.k11 1105. The bank finally owned 1105, the lot, the big lot behind them and all the way down to the other street. And Lloyd Posey, that was one of the Posey brothers. There were seven brothers. And I think Lloyd was a lawyer. And Alexander

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A. 1879. And then, Thomas R., Thomas Ridgway, then, was until his death, I guess, 1897.

Okay. Then Jane, she had part of that En-loil 1105, so that's behind there, to Grace Phile McClernand. But that's, that's the back-lot, I call it. The one west, And the, William Ridgway, that was the son. Kernember they had five. I've got them down here, maybe. William Ridgway and others to D. E. Froelich and that was in 1913. And that was part of tG-l& 1105. It didn't say. And then D. E. Froelich and wife to the National Bank of Shawneetown, 1918. And It was--Here it's described, All of in-lot 1105. So, they got that big lot, goes all the way back to the ather street. And 79 feet off of the side of nn-lea 1106. So "side" on KG-loVd 1106 described--It has to be on the north, Cause they wouldn't call the west side--They wouldn't: call that the side. They'd call that the back, almost, wouldn't they?

4. So it had to be, yes.

A. Cause here's the front door. So, when they were saying part of En-lo= 1106, 79 feet , except--Seventy-f ive hundred dollars to the National Bank of Shawneetown. And then Harriet Hair, and Harriet this Harriet Hair, that's the mother of these gals Jane and Betty . . . Those gals out in Berryville, Virginia.

0. Barbour?

A. Barbour! They said they had a big wedding, cause Hair married a Barbour.

Q. Oh.

A. In Chicago, and they were all well to do. They had a big hotel, The . . . reception, But they'd all come back here and have their babies. Harriet and this Allen. Helen Allen. There was Helen Allen, Harriet Hair, Ida married a Wright. And then the others were the guys. Grant Ridgway, his mother was a Grant from Scotland, and William. Those are the five that lived. They had twelve children.

Q My goodness, A. Well, see, I told you all the children died . . . Q. Now, these are the children of the Ridgways.

A. Thomas Ridgway. Thomas and Jane. And Jane was a Docker and her dad came home in the wheelbarrow. ~hey'I1 shoot me if I say that, cause he's very well thought of,

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And I never did know her, you know. (Looks in index of cemetery record book) Phile. &Fagei] 53 and 57, (Pause) Here' s Mary Phile, wife of William D. And she was born 1836 and died in 1862. And the, it has outside of it, Frances M., 1861 to 1901. Evidently, a son or a daughter. And then, they're on another page. Anyway, this gal that lived to a 100 and--She was, she was William Dm's . . . daughter, I think. 100. She died in 1969. I just looked at this last night trying to find the--But I didn' t write it down. Let's see. (Pause) Now, here is this William L. Caldwell. You didn't ask for him, did you? q0 No. I don't remember that name.

A, Wife, Mary S. It was 1831, This could have been the John and Sarah Badollet thing. William L., 1831 to 65, and his wife was Mary S. And she just died in 1907. Okay, now, we're looking for Phile. William. Here it is. W. M. No, you said D., didn't you?

A. Might be.

Q. This was . . .

A. 1838, would that about match his wife's age?

Q. Being born in 1838?

A. Yes,

Qo Yes.

A. Okay. He was born in Stetten, Germany. And it doesn't give his death. So often they forget to put it on. And Mirah, that's the one-- she was born in 1867 and died in 1969. She was a 102 years old. She was single, Mirah. I don't know whether she was named after a Mirah or not. But I--See, I don't know. I don't connect them.

4. Now, I--Did we talk about a George A. Ridgway?

A. Oh, yes. Because here he is, (Points on ~idgwaygenealogical list*) hat's that son. hat's written all about him.

* See p. AB-43. GD~ Lucille Lawler TAPE SP-3.2

Alexander Kirkpatrick's son, was Albert S. Lowe, born in 1853 and died 1924. And, his wife was Laura K., 1856, 1949. These people I hew. The Lowes had a store and it's on the corner that's got a little sign up here. It's where the landing comes up from the--Where the levee--Where the ferryboat was. Where you come down--Where I said John Marshall store was on the left here. Theirs is kitty-cornered, The Lowe store was a big general merchandise store, right opposite. And it's a sign out there now that says, "Site of the first courthouse." Rut that's the Lowe corner.

And the Lowes, then, had some beautiful homes. One is still there. George Lowe, and his brother's home is gone, but there's pictures of it in . . . I have it in my book. Picture of that Lowe family home.

Q, George Lowe was the son of Albert S.?

A. Well, no, I don't know. About that. Here. (~eadsfrom her book) "Alexander Kirkpatrick Lowe built this imposing home in 1882 with definite French architecture styling and the home is enclosed by an interesting iron fence, that" all that's left now, with a gate that graced the Gibson house in Cincinnati, Ohio. General ~afayettewas said to have been received at this gate in 1825." All that's left now is this gate and this fence. Now, the gate--that house was built 1882 and Lafayette was here in 1825--but they said that the gate came from Cincinnati, from the Gibson House , and was brought here.

But there's Alexander Kirkpatrick Lowe and his son was Albert. I don't want to be quoted saying what became of George S. 1'd think that--You come look at their birthdates and George might be a brother to Alex, I don't know.

0. Okay. That pretty well runs through my list that I have here, Getting the association of these people together. (Pause)

A, We've got that first Thomas Sloo as buried in Buck Cemetery. He was born in 1864 and died in 1929 and he was 65 and his consort was Elizabeth and, see, she was Elizabeth Lowe. Remember when their son Thomas ran for governor. You've got your head filled with a lot of Shawneetown history. And . . . Q. I have a tape filled. hat's more important. My head doesn't keep it all, (Laughs)

A. I know 1've seen a lot of names on top of that. These are the early families and you wouldn't be able to talk to anybody that knew any of them, I don't think. Cause there's no descendents here, only Elizabeth Taylor is the descendent oflthe John 1IarshalLs. COPY OF GENEALOGICAL, LISTINGS PROVIDED BY LUCILLE LAWLER

THE RIDGWAY FAMILY IN ILLINOIS EEORGERIDGWAY BRANCTJ

I. JOHN RIDEWAY, b, 23 Aug. 1784, Little Egg Harbor, New Jersey; d. 1842, Shawneetown, Illinois; m.lst REBECCA OLDEN of Bordentowa, N, J.; m. 2nd, 4 Jan. 1822, MARY FRAZIER GRANT, of White County, Illinois, she was b. c. 1804 in Inverness, Scotl.and and d, 1839 at Shawneetown, Illinois: Children by 1st marriage: 1. ELIZABETH, m, let Ephriam Gatewood; m. 2nd Rev. Dixon 2. REBECCA, m. her cousin EDWARD RIDGWAY 3. JAMES, d. young. 4. fmY, m, WALTER BENNETT SCArES 5. LYDIA, m. Ist, ROBERT CASTLES: m. 2nd, Do 0, WARREN. Children by 2nd wife: 6. JOHN GRANT, M* 1850, MARY POSEY 7. HARRIET, rn. DWIGHT LATHROP 8. THOMAS SHANNON, b. 1826 at Shawneetown, Illinois; d. 1897; m. JANE DOCKER, Children: 1. William 4. Grant 2. Harriet 5. Ida 3. Hellen 9. ELIZABETH, m. JOHN OLNEY 10. George Alexander, of whom further:

TI. GEORGE ALEXANDER RIDGWAP, b. 24 Feb. 1831, Carmi, Illinois; 2 Nov. 1893, Washington, D. C. ; m. 3 June 1863, SARAH ELLEN CALDWELL, of Shawneetown, Illinois, who was b. 31 Jan. 1844 at Shawneetown and d. 24 Dec. 1914 at St. Clair County, Illinois.; Children: 1. ALBERT CALDWELL, b. 15 June 1864; d. 31 Jan. 1921 2, MARY GRANT, b. 11 Mar, 1863 at Shawneetown; d. 31 June 1942 at Washington, D. C.; m. at Asbury Park, N. Y. 30 Apr. 1904, WILLIAM A. RODENBERG. 3. CHARLES CALDWELL, b. 11 June 1869; d. 27 Apr. 1898. 4. JOSEPH CASTLES, b. 10 Mar. 1874; d. 13 May 1935, 5. THOMAS CALDWELL, of whom further:

111, THOMAS CALDWELL RIDGWAY, b. 21 Oct. 1878 in Shawneetown, Illinois; d. 11 Aug. 1938 at Los Angeles, California: m. 2 June 1910 at Los Angeles, GRACE RUTH ROWLEY, who was b, 6 Nov. 1883 at Canton, So, Dakota, and is living in 1971 in Los Angeles. Children: 1 KATE ROWLEY, b. 19 Oct. 1911 in Los Angeles; lives in 1871 in Beverly Hills, Calif.; m. 3 Sept. 1937, LUPPE HODGDON LUPPBJ of Sacramento, Calif, 2, EDWIN ROWLEY, of whom further: 3. Thomas C. Ridpay, Jr., b. 29 Sept 1920 COPY OF EXTRACT MADE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION RESEARCH SECTION FROM RECORDS ON FILE WITH THE WCORDER OF DEEDS, GALLATIN COUNTY COURTHOUSE

1. Oliver C. Vanlandingham to Bank of 111: 8/13/1835 filed 7/1/1837 $200.00 Record Book G, p. 323

2. Legislation of February 28, 1845 Record Book P, p. 286-287 Bank of 1119 to Albert Caldwell (Shawneetown) , Ebenezer Ryan (Lawrenceville), John J. Hardin & same Dunlap (Jacksonville). ~prE10, 1845 filed November 4, 1852 (Banking House Mentioned) Records?

December Term, 1850 - Circuit Cgurt of the U.S. for the State & District of 111-suit July Term, 1851 Circuit Court of U.S. declared William Thomas, Trustee Bank of Missouri E. Caldwell, Ryan, David Smith and George Dunlap, assignees Kecard Book 0, p. 632.

3. Assignees, Bank of IllS- to William Thomas (Jacksonville), Trustee October 29, 1851 Book 0, p. 632-634.

4. Thomas, Trustee to James Dunlap (Jacksonville) April 4, 1853 filed April 8, 1853 Record Book P, p. 456-7 Sold at Public Auction $7,150.

February 20, 1854 Nelson Elwood & Orlando H. Haven (both of Joliet, Will Co.) filed papers to begin banking (State of Bank of 111')- under conditions of February 15, 1851 law. Book 0, p. 167.

5. Dunlap to'blfred B. Safford (Will Co.) February 20, 1854 filed February 28, 1854 $11,500, Q, p. 164-165.

6. Safford 6 Wife to State Bank of 111: July 3, 1854 filed June (?) 26, 1856 Book S, p. 283 $11,500.

7. State Bank of 111' to Alfred B. Safford (Cairo) April 15, 1861 fiied April 16, 1861 Book V, p, 727-729 $5,500.