Oral History Interview with Kenneth L. Maddy
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California State Archives State Government Oral History Program Oral History Interview with Kenneth L. Maddy California State Assembly Member 1971-1978 California State Senator 1979-1998 September 14, 1999, September 17,1999, October 6,1999, October 8,1999, October 11, 1999, October 18, 1999, October 25, 1999, November 17,1999, November 29,1999, December 3,1999, and December 30, 1999 Sacramento, California By Donald B. Seney Center for California Studies California State University, Sacramento Volume 2 SESSION 6, October 8, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] .363 More on the 1978 primary campaign for Governor--the detail and difficulties of campaigning statewide--campaign speeches--the dedication ofthe Ken Maddy center at California State University, Fresno--more on campaign speaking and what is required--the use oftelevision ads--campaigning in Humboldt County--Ed Davis as candidate for the Republican nomination for Governor in 1978 and as a state senator--Herb Cain and the campaign [Tape 1, Side B] 383 More on Herb Cain--Pete Wilson's campaign for the Republican nomination for governor in 1978--Wilson charges that Maddy became more conservative during his eight years in the assembly--the role ofReagan's important supporters in the campaign--the interest ofRepublican party notables in Mike Curb--the reason for Maddy supporting Deukmejian for governor in 1982--power in the Republican Party--the Curb campaign for Lt. Governor in 1978-- SESSION 7, October 11, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 401 Chairing the Criminal Justice Committee in the Assembly after the 1976 election -attitudes toward criminal justice legislation--McCarthy asks Maddy not to run against him for higher office--the politics ofthe death penalty in 1976- Deukmejian and the courts when he becomes Governor--the judicial appointments ofGovernor Jerry Brown--the pleasures ofchairing the Criminal Justice committee--getting involved in the 1976 Republican Convention on behalfof Ronald Reagan [Tape 1, Side B] 422 The value ofsupporting Reagan in 1976--the drama ofthe convention-Reagan's speech at the end ofthe convention--Reagan's "Kitchen Cabinet"--Ronald Reagan's style ofleadership--Peter Uberroth and the 1984 Los Angeles Olympics--picking advisors in politics--the problems ofleadership, including presidentialleadership--the current presidential election campaign--campaign funds left from the 1976 Assembly election campaign--Maddy is accused of turning more conservative after supporting Reagan in 1976 SESSION 8, October 11, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 442 Republican Party politics as a base for a statewide campaign--Maddy is considered as an appointee to replace Jesse Unruh as State Treasurer--the "gang offive" in the Assembly and Maddy's possible appointment as Treasurer--Dan Lundgren gets the appointment to Treasurer and fails to win confirmation from the legislature--Peter Wilson and the 1978 campaign for governor--immigration an a wedge issue--Wilson attacks Maddy's voting record in the 1978 primary--the importance ofgood advisors and staffto success in politics [Tape 1, Side B] 460 Making the Dogface butterfly the official state insect--paying attention to district events--courting the union vote--the importance of activities in the district--a personal style ofpolitics--Jerry Brown and his attitude toward agriculture as a factor in the 1978 primary--the current problems ofnurse staffing legislation- more on agriculture and the 1978 primary--U.S. Representative William Ketchum--raising money from agricultural interests and the effect ofopposing Proposition 13--what has happened to property taxes in the 1970's SESSION 9, October 18, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 483 More on the 1978 election and Proposition 13--Proposition 13 as a larger issue, a rebellion against government--Maddy had a chance to be a leader on behalfof Proposition 13--the advice ofSenator Bob Beverly--Maddy and his standing in the public opinion polls in 1978--the role ofRepublican conservatives in the 1978 campaign--Jerry Brown's highway and water policies--the issue ofnuclear power -access to the media for paid advertising--Maddy's use ofmarijuana as an issue in the 1978 campaign [Tape 1, Side B] 501 The effect offatigue at the end ofa campaign--the marijuana issue in the 1978 campaign--the political role ofthe Nisei farmers--the Evelle Younger campaign- Ed Davis--the advantage ofbeing a candidate from southern California--the death penalty as an issue in the campaign--the California Republican Women--Getting group endorsements--the "Kitchen Cabinet" puts up money at the end ofthe campaIgn [Tape 2, Side A] 518 The support for Mike Curb for Governor in 1982--meeting with the "Kitchen Cabinet" in the 1978 primary--the issue ofabortion in the Republican Party in 1999--election night for the 1978 primary--Maureen Reagan's role in the 1978 primary on behalfofMaddy--support from Bob Moretti and other Democrats- After the campaign was over--suddenly Zenovich is appointed a judge and a senate seat opens up--how the campaign was conducted--a more negative campaign towards Thurman in the runoffelection [Tape 2, Side B] 538 The campaign against John Thurman in the 1979 special senate election--the lack ofsupport in the senate election--the joy ofwinning the senate seat and staying in the legislature--strong Republican support in the election--Proposition 13 was not an issue in this election--winning in an overwhelming Democratic senate district- Maddy becomes Republican Caucus Chair within sixty days ofentering the senate--the politics ofthe Republican Caucus-How Campbell and Maddy ran the Caucus--Neilsen and Seymour become Senate Republican Leaders SESSION 10, October 18, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 554 Raising money for the 1979 Special Senate Election--didn't use all the things that could have been used against Thurman--The issue ofJerry Brown in the campaign--Thurman was a good campaigner--redistricting when you are a member ofthe leadership--Maddy ran unopposed for reelection inI982--Maddy gave money to Assembly Republicans--the way Maddy raised money--the legal and political problems ofraising money--dubious fund raising practices--Maddy is warned by Judge Garibaldi about illegal fund raising among Assembly Republicans--the FBI string or the ShrimpScam case--Maddy had the impression that he had been targeted by the FBI--Maddy felt he had a responsibility to the Republican Caucus to raise money--rumors that ShirmpScam was directed at Willie Brown--the 1980 reapportionment SESSION 11, October 25, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 588 More on Ronald Reagan's terms as Governor--comparing Reagan with other recent governors--Deukmejian as Governor--Deukmejian's approach to appoints, large and small--the appointment ofClare Berryhill as Secretary ofFood and Agriculture--more on Deukmejian's appointments--the issue ofthe governors' mansion--the appointment ofMichael Francetti as Finance director [Tape 1, Side B] 608 Leadership posts in the Senate--the Senate becomes more partisan--the defeat of Al Rodda in 1980--dealing with Jerry Browns aides--B.T. Collins--the defeat of Rose Bird as California ChiefJustice and Deukmejian's legacy effecting the state courts--Jerry Brown's appointments--more on the defeat ofRose Bird in 1988- the importance ofreapportionment--Democrats and Republicans working together on issues--the 1980 reapportionment--attempts to change the way reapportionment is done [Tape 2, Side A] 626 More on reapportionment in the 1980's and reapportionment in general--the impact ofthe Federal Voting Rights Act--helping and harming incumbents through reapportionment--the details ofdoing reapportionment--the role ofthe leader in reapportionment--the effect ofterm limits on reapportionment [Tape 2, Side B] 645 More on the politics and problems ofreapportionment--the role ofSenator Milton Marks in the 1990 reapportionment--how the 1990 reapportionment was handled -trying to adjust the current reapportionment in terms offuture population trends- dealing with congressional redistricting--the requirement to include two assembly districts in senate district--the role ofGovernor Wilson in the 1990 reapportionment--the courts settle the 1990 reapportionment SESSION 12, October 25, 1999 [Tape 1, Side A] 657 How the 2000 reapportionment may be handled--Mike Curb as Lt. Governor and his entrance into elective politics--Republican leadership fights in the Senate and Assembly and Mike Curbs involvement--Senator Bill Richardson and the hard rightwing--problems caused by conservative Republican Senators for their own leaders--Senator Maddy has no opponent his reelection in 1982--marrying Norma Foster and what it meant to a political career [Tape 1, Side B] 675 More on marrying Norma Foster--becoming part ofthe Foster family--an end to the ambitions to run state wide again--having a flair for legislative politics--how to negotiate effectively in the legislature--an example oftrying to negotiate on behalfof Governor Wilson--how conference committee negotiations sometimes work--negotiating with governors--the use ofthe "Big Five" in budget negotiations SESSION 13, November 17, 1999 Begin [Tape 1, Side A] 695 "The Gang ofFive" in the Assembly support Senator Maddy for Treasurer--the origins and activities ofthe "Gang ofFive"--Willie Brown's first attempt to be speaker--Willie Browns political skills--what you couldn't say in an oral history interview--a 1970 bus tour ofCalifornia for new legislators--attitudes on entering the legislature--personalities in the legislature--the other freshman Republican members ofthe Assembly in the 1970 class--what you