around 1959 to discontinuance on February The Official Newsletter of pcoming eetings vents 2, 1963 so the 512 may have operated on the U M /E the Roanoke Chapter, National Shenandoah Division as well. Before being cut Regular Meeting Locations are at Railway Historical Society, Inc. off in 1966, trains 15 & 16 usually ran with the O. Winston Link Museum. only one coach and were usually assigned cars 501 or 502 that seated 68 but, like anything March 21 - General Meeting Volume 45, Number 1 else, there were probably exceptions. At any April 2 - Board Meeting Jan.-Feb.-Mar. 2013 rate, we are all pleased to get this car home April 18 - General Meeting where it came in handy for Rail Day rides at The Museum of Transportation on May 7 - Board Meeting February 9 & 10. May 16 - General Meeting By-Laws June 4 - Board Meeting On March 4, the Board of Directors June 20 - General Meeting approved a revised set of By-Laws. Members July 2 -Board Meeting who would like a PDF copy may email By-Laws Committee Chairman Walter Alexander at July 18 - General Meeting [email protected], or may call him at (540) August 6 - Board Meeting 345-5826 and request a paper copy sent by US August 15 - General Meeting postal mail. Visit us on the web: www.RoanokeNRHS.org

Turntable Times is published monthlybimonthly as asthe the newsletter newsletter of ofthe the Roanoke Roanoke Chapter, Chapter, National National Railway Railway Historical Historical Society, Society, Inc. Inc. Opinions Opinions and and points points of viewof view expressed expressed herein herein are are those those of theof the staff staff members members of theof the Turntable Turntable Times Times and and not not necessarily necessarily reflect reflect those those of theof the members, members, officers officers or directorsor direc- torsof the of Chapter.the Chapter. Items Items of interest of interest should should be sent be sentto Editor to Editors, Kenny P.O. Kirkman, Box 13222, 590 Murphy Roanoke, Road, VA 24032 Collinsville, VA 24078-2128. Editor, Turntable Times Roanoke Chapter NRHS Return Service Requested P.O. Box 13222 Roanoke, VA 24032-3222 Dated Material Please do not delay home, it will be 10 years in April since C&O Southern. In less than five minutes I would Kanawha No. 2732 was moved from the for- be shaking hands and talking with them The Roanoke Chapter of the National Railway Historical Society mer Richmond, Virginia, Visitor Center site both. This is what I am referring to when I will hold its next regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday, March it its new home at The Science Museum of sometimes ask myself that question noted 21, 2013. The meeting will be held in the auditorium at the O. Virginia, formerly Broad Street Station. earlier on this story. Both men were friendly Winston Link Museum at 7:30 pm. Please be sure to enter at the When I arise early in the morning for a and talkative as if we had known each other west end of the building on the track level. day of railfaning or to attend a railroad relat- for years. CEO Moorman even requested my Throughout the year, please note our inclement weather policy ed event, I sometimes say to myself, “I won- email for a specific reason and he delivered below, and always check the website for the most up to date infor- der that the day will bring.” Those of you just before Christmas. After speeches by a mation.Meeting Notice that are involved with railroading are aware number of individuals, the train and yours Volume 45, Number 1 Our April meeting well be held Thursday April 18 at 7:30 pm. that the new service for Norfolk truly were off for Richmond. This time, I Jan-Feb-Mar. 2012 May's monthly meeting will be held on Thursday, May 16 and June starting this past December was a big goal and some others were in for a real treat. will be Thursday, June 20. of achievement for proponents of enhanced While the Whistle Stop Train was stopped at passenger service for Virginia and the Richmond for the festivities, Amtrak P089, nation as a whole. On Tuesday December the southbound Palmetto, arrived with a Editors: 11th, Amtrak operated a Whistle Stop Train business car bringing up Jim Overholser Cards and Flowers to promote the new service and to have its markers stopping right beside the Amtrak [email protected] If you know of a Chapter Member who is sick, lost a loved one the equipment in place for the first day of business car bringing up the markers on the new service scheduled for Wednesday, the WST. You folks should have seen the Dorr Tucker or has a new birth in the family, please contact Bonnie Molinary. December 12. The Whistle Stop Tour made excitement on Mr. Moorman’s face when [email protected] Bonnie is responsible for Chapter cards and flowers and can be reached at 362-0273. stops at Ashland, Richmond’s Staples Mill he returned to the Amtrak business car and Mixed Freight From The Head End Depot, Petersburg (Ettrick Station), and of noticed the Southern business car on the Robin R. Shavers Deadline for Turntable Times course, Norfolk. My goal was to attend the next track over. For the uninformed, Mr. festivities in Ashland and then Richmond. I Moorman worked for Southern Railway in [email protected] The deadline for the next issue of Turntable Times is Saturday, May 25, 2013. Please send articles, information and exchange hit the tracks early to take in some morning maintenance of way in the earlier days of Historian newsletters to: Editor Turntable Times, P.O. Box 13222, Roanoke, CSX action and to arrive in Ashland around his railroading career. Kenneth L. Miller 10 a.m. The festivities were to start around VA, 24032. All parties sending newsletters to the Roanoke Chapter Powhatan Arrow Coach Returns [email protected] via email should send them to Jim Overholser: jgoverholser@ 10:30 with the train arriving around 10:45. verizon.net, Dorr Tucker at [email protected] and Ken Miller at To my surprise, I secured a parking spot less To Roanoke [email protected] than a block from the Ashland Station. A By Dorr Tucker All materials should be CSX official arrived right behind me. There ormer Norfolk and Western P2 66 pas- sent directly to the Editors Meeting Cancellation Policy was a nice sized crowd on hand. The weath- Fsenger coach No. 512 owned by the at their email address listed er was sunny and very cool. It was tee shirt Chapter has returned home after 13 years of Any Chapter meeting will be considered cancelled if any of the with their names. flip flop weather the day before. Ashland service elsewhere. This car, built by Pullman following conditions are due to weather: Roanoke City Schools are residents had tables of cookies and hot bev- Standard for The Powhatan Arrow, was in closed on the day of or for the day after the meeting, or Virginia erages available to all. MAN THAT CIDER regular service on trains 25 & 26 as well as Western night classes are cancelled for the night of a meeting. WAS GOOD. The train arrives with an Turntable Times is published trains 3 & 4 from delivery in December 1949 quarterly as the newsletter of Cover Photo Amtrak Heritage Unit on the point, the origi- until the end of scheduled N&W passenger the Roanoke Chapter, National nal scheme dubbed “bloody nose” by rail- service in May of 1971. In later years, par- Railway Historical Society, Inc. Top: Ken Miller was lucky to catch heritage unit 1069 in Virginian Opinions and points of view paint going west with an empty train at Montgomery Tunnel on fans. Passengers detrain. I recognize two of ticularly in the late 1960s, the car was also expressed herein are those of the February 24th, all he had was his cell phone. She sure looks good! them immediately - Mr. Joseph Boardman, seen on trains 41 & 42. In all probability the staff members of the Turntable President and Chief Executive Officer for car may have operated on trains 17, 18, 45 Times and not necessarily reflect Bottom: Skip Salmon captured 8099 in Southern paint sitting in those of the members, officers or front of our station with snow on the new tile roof. Some of us Amtrak and Mr. Wick Moorman, President & 46 on occasion. Valley trains 1 & 2 were directors of the Chapter. thought we might never see the day, for either of these images! and Chief Executive Officer for Norfolk assigned modern P series coaches from 1 14 a vintage bus ride from the Commonwealth door leading into 1148’s dinette was covered Member Julien Sacks Passes Virginian Station Update Coach and Trolley Museum, members were by cardboard to conceal our evening feast treated to dinner in our diner-dormitory from the passengers. Unfortunately the pun- By Jeff Sanders By Jim Cosby and Skip Salmon 1148 Devils Lake on the grounds of the gent aroma of garlic was a dead giveaway ulien I. Sacks, charter Chapter member onstruction for Phase I (Brownfield Virginia Museum of Transportation. The that the Chapter crew was having a far bet- J(from 1968), passed away January 16, Ccleanup, building stabilization and roof menu included flounder rolled into a lobster ter evening meal than our customers. This 2013, in Rockville, Maryland. He was 91 replacement) commenced on February puree, duck spring rolls and watercress salad resulted in a long standing policy remaining years young. Many of us saw Julien for the 22, 2012 and was substantially completed among other delicacies. in effect today that paying passengers are last time when he came to Roanoke to ride by July 31, 2012. Our final report on the This event brings back memories of anoth- served the best food and served first. At any with us on our Roanoke-Danville fall excur- Brownfield cleanup was submitted to EPA er scrumptious meal served in the same car rate, we were able to enjoy Eric’s superb sion train in 2010. He was getting around on July 10, 2012, but was not approved by back in 1975. cooking for three more meals on IL III. well and greeted us all with his ever-present them until December 31, 2012. Phase I is The Independence Limited III was sched- smile. Julien loved life and loved people. now complete. uled to operate out of Knoxville with Mixed Freight Julien owned his own shoe store, “Julien’s After obtaining approvals from Valley Shoes” in Roanoke from 1949 until he Metro, the City of Roanoke and VDOT of Locomotive 4501 on July 3rd of that year By Mr. Robin R. Shavers retired and sold the business in 1985. our bid documents, a Request for Proposals and run to Roanoke by the way of Norton y the time you read this, the worst of “Julien’s Shoes” served as a ticket outlet for from architectural and engineering firms and Bluefield. Unfortunately (or perhaps winter will probably be over with Spring B many of our early excursion trips. Julien was was published December 17, 2012. Four pro- fortunately) due to a tunnel collapse the ready to take the helm. For a lot of us, this also the consummate salesman. He willingly posals were received on January 11, 2013. train detoured over the Clinchfield from St winter wasn’t that bad unless you reside in shared his knowledge with the Chapter. Upon review of the proposals and inter- Paul to Johnson City and on to Roanoke via the extreme northeastern states. I am one of Besides ticket sales, he helped with advertis- views of the two leading contenders, we Bristol. But that is a story in itself. However those folks who recycles just about anything ing and our souvenir sales on our trips as selected the proposal of Spectrum Design, to get our rolling stock and personnel to that is practical and sensible. This includes well as our souvenir operation at VMT. a team consisting of Spectrum, Barry A. Knoxville we arranged for the operation of calendars. Calendars for 1983 and 2002 are Prior to Julien's involvement in the Rakes, Architect, Hill Studio, Landscape a four car diesel powered passenger extra compatible with 2013. Roanoke Chapter, he also was involved in Architects, Alison S. Blanton, Architectural departing Roanoke At 1PM on July 2 and In my last Mixed Freight column, I gave a railroading in the area, as he was a member Historian, and Kenneth L. Miller, Technical arriving Knoxville at 8PM the same evening brief report on my visit to the High Bridge of the first model railroad club in Roanoke Advisor / Historian. A proposed contract (editors note: Mr. Robert Claytor’s office car just east of Farmville. I reported that my and was involved in building a display lay- has been sent to Spectrum. When signed by N&W No. 500 may have been on the point friends and I were joined by five dogs that out for the Norfolk and Western in 1957. Spectrum, the RFP package, proposal and followed by our 1148, 1204, 1205 & 1210). resided at a nearby residence. If you bring Julien served on the Chapter Board of contract will be sent to the City of Roanoke And since we had two empty coaches your dog to visit the bridge or trail, a leash Directors off and on for about 17 years. and VDOT for their review. Upon approval, available we decided to sell the connecting is required for each dog. This is stated on a His terms in office included Secretary, it will be signed by Chapter officers. train as the “COACH EXPRESS”. For some board of rules and regulations for the entire Treasurer, Vice President three times and The architectural and engineering firms unknown reason the IL trip flyer didn’t HIGH BRIDGE TRAIL PARK. The owners President three times. We already missed will then need to complete the drawings make it perfectly clear that the connection of those dogs could have been charged for him and his wife Genie when they moved to and specifications permitting us to bid to Knoxville was a train rather than a “Motor each dog had the park ranger showed. The Maryland in 1986. Genie passed away sever- Phase II in approximately summer 2013. Coach.” Apparently there was a degree of H.B.T.P. does indeed have its own official al years ago. Upon his move from Roanoke, Our goal is to have Phase II substantially uncertainty when the trip flyers went to law enforcement vehicle. we bestowed upon Julien a lifetime honor- completed by March 31, 2014 with final press. Nevertheless we did run as a passen- 2013 presents quite a few timelines. Come ary Chapter membership. completion in the summer of 2014. We will ger extra and served 100 deluxe box suppers May of this year, it will be 50 years since Julien was an important member of the lease the larger former passenger station while changing train crews in Bristol. the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway assumed Chapter for many years and his invaluable building to a tenant and use the smaller For the benefit of our Chapter crew Eric control of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. judgment and knowledge will be missed. former baggage and express building for Crane agreed to cook a complete spaghetti 2013 marks 20 years since the creation of But, more importantly, we have lost a Chapter purposes and a display area to dinner that was served between Johnson Metro North Commuter Railroad. It also friend. explain, honor and remember the Virginian City and Morristown on the Southern. To marks 100 years since the opening of Grand Railway and its employees. assure our privacy the rear window in the Central Terminal back in 1913. Closer to

13 2 The Baggage and Express Building of the flowing history of the Virginian Railway. The Chapter has lost long-time Honorary ringing the bell and blowing 611’s whistle Station will house a display of Virginian Member Julien Sacks, who passed away on arranged by Chapter members Gary Gray Railway artifacts in the east room. This will 21st Century Steam for 2013 January 16, 2013. (See article elsewhere in and Chad Jordan and Rick Rader who set up include items now on display in the Virginia The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum this issue) a compressed air system. A fitting salute to Museum of Transportation (“Virginian- (TVRM) and the Fort Wayne Railroad The dues renewal cycle for 2013 has offi- a memorable day! Roanoke’s Other Railway” Room) plus many Historical Society (FWRHS), in partnership cially closed as dues expire on December more that have been collected and stored with Norfolk Southern Corporation, will 31st. If you have renewed for 2013, you Roanoke Hump Yard Closing so far: Hopefully the Clock that served the host 21st Century Steam excursion trips in were sent a green Roanoke Chapter mem- orfolk Southern announced February25 railway in the nearby Yard Office of South Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, bership card. If you have not renewed, Nthat it will cease regional railcar clas- Yard; Lanterns; Locks and Keys; Timetables; and Pennsylvania in the Spring of 2013. please mail your dues to the Chapter P.O. sification operations at its Roanoke Terminal Models of locomotives including diesel, Schedules, prices, and ticketing informa- box. National will be mailing reminders to hump yard in Roanoke, Va. This will mean steam and electric as well as other rolling tion are available at www.tvrail.com for those who have not renewed; because of the elimination of about 140 positions. The stock and passenger equipment; maps; large TVRM-hosted trips and fortwaynerailroad. lead times and processing schedules, some Terminal will continue to provide service drawings, a dispatch panel that will be pro- org for FWRHS-sponsored trips. Norfolk of you who recently renewed may receive a to local customers, and to be a hub for grammed with a video of a modern train Southern employees will be able to request second notice. As of mid-February, we have through-train operations. traveling from Demuth to Altavista; tools; tickets for the employee appreciation trips 149 members in good standing and 23 who The Roanoke hump operation has seen a photographs; fixtures, etc. soon through the ERC. have not renewed. Please contact me via steady decline in the volume of general mer- Also there will be an audio/video stream • March 2: Chattanooga, Tenn., to Attalla, email ([email protected]) or phone (540) chandise cars handled by about 30 percent of VGN DVDs and those featuring Skip Ala. Powered by Southern 2-8-0 630. 345-5826 if you have any question about since 2006. At the same time, system-wide Salmon’s interviews with many of the for- Host: TVRM. your dues status. improvements in the railroad’s operations mer Virginian employees. Also a computer • March 9: Bristol, Va., to Radford, Va. have freed up network capacity such that terminal(s) will allow visitors to research the Host: TVRM. SOU We are involved in FIRE UP 611! classification operations now performed at VGN RY through the N&W Historical Society 630. SOLD OUT By Dorr Tucker Roanoke are no longer necessary. Archives. • March 10: Bristol, Va., to Bulls Gap, riday February 22 was a significant day in “The employees who work at Roanoke are The middle rooms will be the office of Tenn. Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive FRoanoke with the announcement that a dedicated and efficient,” said Terry Evans, Roanoke Chapter NRHS and Board Room. SOU 630. SOLD OUT committee will embark on a 90 day feasibil- vice president transportation. “But the geo- We could use VGN drawings of former desks • March 16: Roanoke, Va., to Radford, Va. ity study of returning the world renowned graphical location and layout of the hump and fixtures including a large Dispatchers (morning), and Roanoke to Lynchburg, Norfolk and Western Class J 4-8-4 steam yard make it not only expensive but redun- table for consideration to construct a custom Va. (afternoon). Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive No. 611 to operating condition. dant within our network.” built Conference Room table (with several locomotive SOU 630. Combination pub- The Virginia Museum of Transportation Most of the affected positions are carmen, different woods to make the VGN herald). lic and NS employee appreciation trips. study - called Fire Up 611 - will ascertain who inspect and repair railcars, and train This board room will be used for Chapter SOLD OUT what will be needed to restore, maintain, crews, who conduct switching operations in Board meetings as well as other activities. •March 23: Norfolk to Petersburg, Va. and operate this magnificent Roanoke built the yard. Some track maintenance positions The west rooms of the B&E Building with 630. Host: TVRM. SOLD OUT steam passenger locomotive. Chapter presi- are affected. (Norfolk Southern) includes two bath rooms (one will be • April 13: Spencer, N.C., to Barber, dent Jeff Sanders will serve on the commit- Chapter members Jeff Sanders and Ken designated Handicapped) for the nearby N.C. Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive tee of nine headed up by Chapter member Miller were quoted February 26 in The Greenway travelers. The old boiler room SOU 630. Combination public and NS Preston Claytor, son of the late Bob Claytor, Roanoke Times. See the article at: http:// (below ground level) and storage above, may employee appreciation trip. former N&W and NS President. Chapter ww2.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/320885/ store artifacts and be a workshop of sorts. • April 20 and 21: Asheville, N.C., to Old member Ron Davis is also a member. Other The “attic” of this building will be used Fort, N.C. Host: TVRM. Steam locomo- members include Bev Fitzpatrick, Jim Wrinn, Culinary Delights On The 1148 for storage and HVAC equipment. We will tive SOU 630. April 20 is combination and Scott Lindsay. See the committee’s By Dorr Tucker consult with our Architect and Engineering public and NS employee trip. website – www.fireup611.org - for more n January 29, 2013 Roanoke Chapter professionals for presentation and actual • May 12: Rocky River, Ohio, to Bellevue, information. The fifteen minute press con- Ohosted the local America Culinary display features including some sort of a Ohio. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive ference at VMT on the 22nd was closed by Foundation Chapter’s Mystery Dinner. After

3 12 significantly higher than $50,500. ($39 x 10,000 members = $390,000. Do the NKP 765. Mr. Delano has a limited number of books Alaska convention sales have started. math.). Look for a possible dues increase in • May 25, 26 and 27: Lewistown, Pa., to available about this railroad. He will talk Generally, early sales peak with people most the next year or so. The fall 2012 Bulletin Horseshoe Curve, Pa. Host: FWRHS. about this railroad and present a slide interested in attending ordering the big tick- is several months late, but Editor Jeff Smith Steam locomotive NKP 765. show about the depots that were scattered et items such as dome, and sales slack off did not explain why. Money problems here 21st Century Steam is a partnership throughout the area. The meeting will be thereafter. Convention planning for future too? between Norfolk Southern and TVRM held in the large meeting at the Franklin years 2014, 2015 is apparently on hold. The Alaska convention deadline to sign to operate steam-powered excursions County Library in Rocky Mount, VA. Very preliminary investigation of possible the Alaska RR contract is March 31, after throughout the territory Norfolk Southern May 11-12 - Roanoke Rail Fest at the sites took place during the fall of 2012 and which cancellation penalties as much as serves. More information is available Virginia Museum of Transportation, includ- earlier this year. Apparently there has been $70,000 begin to mount. Management has on the 21st Century Steam website at ing Chapter train rides. Info at www.vmt.org no specific action or planning since. Just a not escrowed convention revenue received www.21stcenturysteam.com (Norfolk May 16-19 – Cass Scenic Railfan Weekend, little over a year remains if a 2014 conven- so far and it is co-mingled with the general Southern and Trains News Wire). info at http://www.msrlha.org/ tion is to be held. society funds, although supposedly account- May 17-19 – Special Amtrak charter train “Heard On The Street” ed for separately. This may not bode well if The Timetable from Spencer, NC to Charleston, SC, and (Bits and pieces of info and rumors from cancellation becomes necessary, as refunds March 16 – 21st Century Steam excur- return. Coaches and first class, two nights various sources) to ticket holders and contractual penalty sions, 830 AM Roanoke to Walton and in Charleston. Most of the route is freight Society Financial Problems - Discussion obligations must be repaid. And, since some return, 130 PM to Lynchburg and return. only, over NS. Sponsored by North Carolina was held with the Board about the potential of this money has already been spent, the Roanoke Chapter volunteers to car host. Transportation and Watauga Valley Railroad for NRHS running out of money within the rest will have to come from general funds. SOLD OUT Historical Society & Museum. Info at http:// next two years. The very heavy conven- Lack of communication with the members March 17 (Planned) - Deadhead (no pas- www.nctrans.org/Events/EXCURSION---The- tion loss at Cedar Rapids hurt as original has been an ongoing problem. With the new sengers) ferry trip 21st Century Steam train Lowcountry-Limited.aspx 2012 budget projections called for a profit. smaller board of directors and the conse- Roanoke to Crewe. June 7-9 – CSXT Historical Society annual NRHS contractual obligations for the next quent reduction in the number of people March16 – National Association of convention, Winchester, KY. Info at http:// two years to Fernley and Fernley (“F&F”) who actually attend meetings there is even Railroad Passengers, Virginians for High- csxthsociety.org/ approaches $140,000-150,000 annually, less information available. The new regional Speed Rail, and Virginia Association June 12-16 – Norfolk & Western Historical plus payments for convention order and directors have some responsibility here and of Railway Patrons joint meeting in Society Annual Convention, Twin Falls State ticketing processing. There are other sig- at least some are trying. Our District 4 direc- Washington, DC. Info at http://www.narprail. Park, WV, Twin Falls is just a bit north of nificant operating expenses, among them tor, Larry Dyer from , did put out a org/events/calendar Mullins, WV Info: www.nwhs.org the Bulletin (over $300,000 yearly), NRHS synopsis of the Williamsburg meeting March 23 – Roanoke Model Train Show at July 28 – August 1 – Chesapeake & Ohio News, the NRHS Grants Program and vari- I plan to attend the next meeting of the the Virginia Museum of Transportation, info Historical Society Annual Conference, Info: ous contracted services like PR and Fund Board and the Advisory Committee at West at www.vmt.org www.cohs.org Raising fees. NRHS investment funds were Chester, Ohio (near ) April 5-7. No April 7 – Portsmouth, OH to Roanoke via August 10 - {Saturday} Blue Ridge Chapter, seriously eroded in 2012, dropping in value agendas are available as of this writing. Gilbert Branch (ex-N&W) and the Guyandotte NRHS “Lynchburg Rail Day 2013”, www.blu- from nearly $450,000 in January to about River Branch (ex-Virginian) between eridgenrhs.org $186,000 by the end of the year. That is a Membership Report Wharncliffe and Elmore Park. Overnight September 13-22 – NRHS annual conven- (-$264,000) LOSS folks or nearly 60% of the By Walter Alexander in Roanoke. April 8 - Roanoke to Norfolk, tion in Alaska, info at http://www.nrhs.com/ value of the funds since the beginning of wenty-five year awards and pins VA Abilene, Burkeville, Norfolk Bridge the year. It appears management is using Thave been received for five members. 5. High Iron Travel five car special train, LCL (Less Than Carload) up the nest egg of investment money to These will be presented by our National Southeastern Explorer, from to Annual Gathering - The December 20 pay current bills. The original intent of this Representative Carl Jensen. Congratulations Norfolk. Info at www.highirontravel.com Annual Holiday Gathering was a great suc- fund was growth, with dividend income to to Keaton L. Tabor, Elizabeth M. Sabatinos, Tuesday, April 16, 2013 from 7 until 8 cess, with 73 members and friends attend- be used for current expenses, not the prin- Kathy Regenold, David D. Meashey, and p.m., Tex Delano will give a small talk about ing. Thanks to Bonnie Molinary, Kathy ciple. Meanwhile dues income continues Shirley A. Jensen for their continued loyalty the F&P Railroad, which went through Overholser, and many helpers for a wonder- to decrease because of lower membership. to Roanoke Chapter NRHS. Franklin County and the Pittsylvania area. ful time. The only sad part was remember-

111 4 1 ing that Wanda Troutman had such a big and New River Valleys, but also from every firms for the Phase II Virginian Station dure for dealing with unfilled seats on the part in this event in the past and we no lon- state, the District of Columbia and Puerto project, and have interviewed our top two board for which nobody ran; establishment ger have her with us. Rico and 49 other countries. The Museum choices. The Committee’s recommendation of an order of succession for President, VP, Mechanical Committee Report - (Lewis has also reached out to other non-profits and acceptance by the Board has been com- Secretary, Treasurer and General Council; Foster) - Over the last few months the to partner when and where it makes sense. pleted. We will meet with our first choice and establishment of leadership clarifica- Mechanical Department has completed For example, partnerships with the Roanoke to work out a mutual contract. See Virginian tion for the Advisory Council in the absence the work replacing the radiators and brake Chapter of the National Railway Historical Station Update elsewhere in this Turntable of the Vice President (the designated head valves on the Alco T-6 No. 41. The engine Society (Roanoke NRHS) and the LINK Times for more information. of this group under the new By-Laws) - No is now blue carded and was used for our Museum have also helped fuel attendance. Your Chapter Board meets at 7 PM the first details are yet available. Train Lovers’ Weekend trips at the Virginia The Roanoke NRHS offers train rides during Tuesday of each month at VMT and Chapter The 2013 RailCamp program is cancelled Museum of Transportation. We carried select special events throughout the year. members are always welcome to attend. for this year. Campers have been regularly over 2,300 passengers over Saturday and (VMT) housed in college dormitories. Very high Sunday February 9 and 10 and were able Virginia Transportation Bill Passes — Report Of NRHS National insurance requirements have been imposed to run much more efficiently thanks to the As part of the just-passed (Feb 23) Happenings by both universities at Scranton, PA and return of our N&W P2 class coach No. 512 Transportation Bill, Virginia becomes the By Carl Jensen, National Representative Tacoma, WA for child abuse coverage, a from Spencer. While the No. 512 needs first, and only, state with a dedicated pot ational Board Meeting was held on direct outgrowth of the Penn State and some freshening up (both inside and out) for passenger rail (the Virginia Intercity NJanuary 12-13 in Williamsburg, VA. Catholic Church scandals. Insurance was the extra 66 seats allowed us to double our Passenger Rail Operating and Capital Fund), Only Board members attended, no Advisory not even obtainable or was unreasonably train capacity and keep lines to ride much and we become (with the Governor’s sig- Council meeting was held. The Board spent expensive. Barry Smith, former head of the shorter. We also used the Devils Lake and nature) the first state to attach a dedicated, several hours in executive session, so all RailCamp program was released from his two cabooses. The Mechanical department sustainable, long-term funding source to the matters related to the business of the responsibility for health reasons. The pro- is currently helping in an Eagle Scout project advancement of our intercity and high speed Society are not known to the membership, gram will be headed by Don Maxwell for the to re-side our wooden box car so that it can passenger rail system. Over the next decade, and probably some won’t be disclosed by Scranton Camp and Bill Chapman for the be placed on display at VMT. The Chapter our Commonwealth is poised to invest $568 Management. Among them is a full account- Tacoma (Western) Camp. Both are aiming at property at Franklin Road is now cleaned million in our passenger rail system via ing of the current financial condition of the restarting the program in 2014 if possible. up thanks to Will Harris and his crew who IPROC and $230 million into our freight rail organization, detailed information of which The Cedar Rapids convention final report spent several days there removing brush and system via the Rail Enhancement Fund for has been woefully lacking for a number of was received, and the total loss was $50,500, small trees. We also plan on doing the brake a total investment of $798 million over the years, and on which rumors included a dis- instead of the originally predicted $30,000. valve rebuild on GP30 No. 522 this spring next 10 years to improve Virginia’s rail net- cussion of the possibility of running out of This was a record of the most unfortunate and hope to have it back in service soon. work. money within the next 2 years or less. (See kind, as no NRHS convention had ever come Our next run day at VMT is planned for The money invested into IPROC will: the Heard on the Street, below) close to such a loss, and some had large prof- May 11 and 12. The Mechanical Department - Allow for the continued operation of Several by-laws changes were necessary as its. To an extent the loss was offset by a last can use any help you can provide, both at Virginia’s six Amtrak Regional services; some unanticipated omissions in the origi- minute decision to set up a registration desk 9th street and when we’re running at VMT. - Expand Virginia Amtrak Regional service nal documents became apparent, subject to at the convention, and offer public sale of If you would like to see more of what the to Roanoke; ratification by the membership at the annual trip tickets (nearly $40,000, a record). Trips Mechanical Department is working on, - Extend two more Amtrak Regional ser- meeting later this year. De facto, many of were heavily publicized by a local TV station. please visit http://www.facebook.com/roano- vices to Norfolk/Virginia Beach; these changes are already in effect. They Prior to days with available space they did kenrhs/ - Invest in infrastructure improvements included making the offices of Secretary and several live broadcasts from the train featur- VMT - The Virginia Museum of between Richmond and Newport News Treasurer eligible to be filled by members ing the former MILW parlor observation car Transportation, the official transportation to enhance our current Amtrak Regional of the Board of Directors. The two incum- “CEDAR RAPIDS”. Local interest was strong museum of the Commonwealth of Virginia, services; bents were elected as Directors under the after TV featured onsite tours and explana- announced that attendance for 2012 - Invest in infrastructure improvements new board, so the President had to make tions about the car and its history. It pays to increased by 32.6 percent. The VMT wel- between Washington and Richmond that a change to avoid appointing new people. advertise. Had local sales not been so strong comed visitors not only from the Roanoke will enhance our current Amtrak inter- Other changes/additions: establish a proce- the overall convention loss would have been

15 101 able to anyone through request to Treasurer Gary Gray and Willard Hamill) officers for city trains and Virginia Railway Express on Southern’s Kemper Street Station in Jim Cosby. 2013 will be: President-Jeff Sanders; Vice- trains; Lynchburg. 2012 was the 100th anniversary Chapter member Peter Lewis and Akzo President-Eddie Mooneyham; Secretary-Skip - Invest in infrastructure improve- of the station’s opening. Nobel manager James Bray presented a Salmon; Treasurer-Jim Cosby and National ments to expand more Virginia Amtrak Historical Societies Collaborate - A joint proposal for a project called eBase USA. Representative-Carl Jensen. Regional service to Lynchburg/Roanoke, manager for the Chesapeake and Ohio Peter explained that eBase is where a data Paul M Howell and Fred Boettner are Newport News, and Norfolk/Virginia Historical Society’s Heritage Center (Clifton base could be set up at Copper Hill, VA (on working to change our radios to the newly Beach; Forge) and the Alleghany Historical Society Peter’s Apple Ridge Farm) to teach young mandated narrow band widths. All paper - Allow Virginia to match any federal (Covington) will be hired, the organizations people around the globe about use of air work has been sent in to the FCC. Chapter transportation money for the enhance- announced. and wind energy. It would be the first eBase Registered Agent Eddie Mooneyham ment of the Commonwealth’s intercity Norfolk Amtrak Service – On December in the United States and only the third in reported that he has sent in required State and high speed rail network. (Virginians 12, 2012, regular Amtrak service returned to the world, with the other two in Antarctica Corporation Commission Annual Report for for High-Speed Rail) downtown Norfolk after 35 years with the and India. Peter expressed a request for our Chapter. Abingdon – A restoration project is under- 450 AM departure of train 174 for . the Board to donate our old payroll box car Electrical repairs were approved for way in Abingdon, VA, on the former N&W Amtrak’s quit in 1977. A large (N&W 521205) to house this project. During Chapter’s Alco No. 41, in preparation for 1910 brick railroad station that will result onboard crowd enjoyed a smooth trip over a Special Called Board Meeting of 12-20- use at VMT on February 9 & 10. The Board in the building receiving a new slate roof, a former N&W track to a new connection to 12 during the Christmas Chapter meeting, is looking at the possible acquisition of restored roof profile with finials, dormers, CSX at Collier south of Petersburg. the Board voted to donate Chapter owned another coach. This would be what we are skylights, and a translucent glass ceiling. box car No. 521205 (as is, minus trucks) calling a MARC (Maryland Area Regional The station is now home to the Historical Sick Report to Apple Ridge Farm in Copper Hill, VA for Commuter) car. It is an original N&W Society of Washington County. (The Whistle Bernard Troutman was in the hospital for their eBase USA project. A “Thank You” let- Railway sleeper, sold to PRR about 1963, Stop, Watauga Valley Railroad Historical a week, and is now in Richfield for a few ter was received from Peter for our box car converted to a coach, and later a commuter Society & Museum) weeks for physical therapy. Son Bernie said donation for his Apple Ridge Farm eBase coach by MARC. Negotiations will be con- Roanoke Track Construction – Work he is doing MUCH better, and getting stron- project. Peter also sent the Chapter a 100 ducted with TVRM, who is brokering the car. is resuming after a winter break on the ger. share “Apple Ridge RR Stock Certificate” in Eight firms responded to the A&E RFP for “re-doing” of the NS tracks in downtown Jim Cosby suffered a mild stroke but is appreciation of our help. This “railroad” is the Virginian Station. Two firms from those Roanoke. In 2012 platforms were removed, recovering well. most likely the first railroad in the 182 year responding with proposals will be inter- utility work performed, and the base for Norris Deyerle is healing slowly from his history of Floyd County! viewed. The installation of temporary light- new tracks prepared. 2013 should see the ankle ulcer. After two years of misdiagnosis, A recap of our fall trips was discussed ing at the Station will be done soon, as well completion of the project with actual track he is now under proper treatment. His ill- as well as some preliminary ideas for as investigation of a security system for both construction beginning soon, resulting in ness is not contagious but will take many next year. For their assistance with our the Station and our 9th Street facility. The faster speed (30 MPH) for trains to and months to heal completely. Fall Trips the Chapter made donations to search for a possible tenant for our Franklin from the north and east through the old the following organizations: Shenandoah Road property continues. Randolph Street interlocking. Summary of Board Actions Rescue Squad, Shenandoah Volunteer Fire Chapter coach ex-N&W No. 512 has been NS Train 201 – A southbound counterpart December through February Department, Star City Striders, the Salem returned to Roanoke after an extended stay to intermodal train 202 has begun operat- By Jeff Sanders, President Rescue Squad, and the Town of Shenandoah. at NCTM in Spencer, NC. It was used on ing from Harrisburg to Memphis through t was reported that the father of new Chapter membership stands at 174. the Chapter train at VMT on Feb. 9 & 10. Roanoke. 201 makes a pickup at the new NS Imember Ben Shanks passed away. Our RFP for the hiring of Architects and Negotiations continue regarding the former intermodal terminal near Greencastle, PA. condolences to Ben. Engineers for Phase II of the Virginian N&W (MARC) coach. The NS 21st Century It usually operate through Roanoke in the The Chapter received an award from the Station restoration have been approved and Steam spring schedule has been released. daytime. Roanoke Valley Preservation Foundation on a legal notice posted in newspapers, with We hope to take part in any trains operated Kemper Street Station Article – The fourth November 29, 2012 for the restoration of bid opening planned for Jan. 13, 2013. in our area. Discussions continue concern- quarter issue of the Southern Railway Chesapeake Western Railway Baldwin No. Upon the recommendation of the ing possible fall trips. Historical Association publication “Ties” 662 for VMT. Nominating Committee (Paul Howell, We received proposals from four A&E has an excellent article by Garland Harper As always, the Treasurer’s report is avail- 19 6 1 While this John Krause scene from early 1956 does not offer the 2169 is chuffing lightly while pulling back out of the spur. Highway traffic is sparse drama often depicted in the steam railroad scene it was the quiet, and few railfans recorded a scene like this, so we are grateful that Mr. Krause devoted day to day scenes like this that make the era what it was. The air a sheet of 4x5 film to record this piece of day to day action that is really not much ac- An occasional fea- is still cold as Y6a 2169 is performing on of the work-a-day world tion at all, but a great little window to an era. The wig-wag, the station, the train order ture offering a small chores of spotting a car or two at a local industry. The lighting is boards, the shanty and even the telegraph poles and lines are gone, not to mention window into the past excellent and the composition and timing is great. You can almost the siding and industry. from an archive file or hear the wig-wag signal bell clanging in the dull monotone clang as After consultation with my Shenandoah Division expert (and recent retiree), Jimmy image. Lisle, we have determined that this is the southbound local setting out a car, probably a car of coal or two at Monger Coal Company in Grottoes, Virginia. Historian Today, about all that truly remains from this photo is the road and track, a few build- Kenneth L. Miller ings may survive, but only barely.

17 8 1 able to anyone through request to Treasurer Gary Gray and Willard Hamill) officers for city trains and Virginia Railway Express on Southern’s Kemper Street Station in Jim Cosby. 2013 will be: President-Jeff Sanders; Vice- trains; Lynchburg. 2012 was the 100th anniversary Chapter member Peter Lewis and Akzo President-Eddie Mooneyham; Secretary-Skip - Invest in infrastructure improve- of the station’s opening. Nobel manager James Bray presented a Salmon; Treasurer-Jim Cosby and National ments to expand more Virginia Amtrak Historical Societies Collaborate - A joint proposal for a project called eBase USA. Representative-Carl Jensen. Regional service to Lynchburg/Roanoke, manager for the Chesapeake and Ohio Peter explained that eBase is where a data Paul M Howell and Fred Boettner are Newport News, and Norfolk/Virginia Historical Society’s Heritage Center (Clifton base could be set up at Copper Hill, VA (on working to change our radios to the newly Beach; Forge) and the Alleghany Historical Society Peter’s Apple Ridge Farm) to teach young mandated narrow band widths. All paper - Allow Virginia to match any federal (Covington) will be hired, the organizations people around the globe about use of air work has been sent in to the FCC. Chapter transportation money for the enhance- announced. and wind energy. It would be the first eBase Registered Agent Eddie Mooneyham ment of the Commonwealth’s intercity Norfolk Amtrak Service – On December in the United States and only the third in reported that he has sent in required State and high speed rail network. (Virginians 12, 2012, regular Amtrak service returned to the world, with the other two in Antarctica Corporation Commission Annual Report for for High-Speed Rail) downtown Norfolk after 35 years with the and India. Peter expressed a request for our Chapter. Abingdon – A restoration project is under- 450 AM departure of train 174 for Boston. the Board to donate our old payroll box car Electrical repairs were approved for way in Abingdon, VA, on the former N&W Amtrak’s Mountaineer quit in 1977. A large (N&W 521205) to house this project. During Chapter’s Alco No. 41, in preparation for 1910 brick railroad station that will result onboard crowd enjoyed a smooth trip over a Special Called Board Meeting of 12-20- use at VMT on February 9 & 10. The Board in the building receiving a new slate roof, a former N&W track to a new connection to 12 during the Christmas Chapter meeting, is looking at the possible acquisition of restored roof profile with finials, dormers, CSX at Collier south of Petersburg. the Board voted to donate Chapter owned another coach. This would be what we are skylights, and a translucent glass ceiling. box car No. 521205 (as is, minus trucks) calling a MARC (Maryland Area Regional The station is now home to the Historical Sick Report to Apple Ridge Farm in Copper Hill, VA for Commuter) car. It is an original N&W Society of Washington County. (The Whistle Bernard Troutman was in the hospital for their eBase USA project. A “Thank You” let- Railway sleeper, sold to PRR about 1963, Stop, Watauga Valley Railroad Historical a week, and is now in Richfield for a few ter was received from Peter for our box car converted to a coach, and later a commuter Society & Museum) weeks for physical therapy. Son Bernie said donation for his Apple Ridge Farm eBase coach by MARC. Negotiations will be con- Roanoke Track Construction – Work he is doing MUCH better, and getting stron- project. Peter also sent the Chapter a 100 ducted with TVRM, who is brokering the car. is resuming after a winter break on the ger. share “Apple Ridge RR Stock Certificate” in Eight firms responded to the A&E RFP for “re-doing” of the NS tracks in downtown Jim Cosby suffered a mild stroke but is appreciation of our help. This “railroad” is the Virginian Station. Two firms from those Roanoke. In 2012 platforms were removed, recovering well. most likely the first railroad in the 182 year responding with proposals will be inter- utility work performed, and the base for Norris Deyerle is healing slowly from his history of Floyd County! viewed. The installation of temporary light- new tracks prepared. 2013 should see the ankle ulcer. After two years of misdiagnosis, A recap of our fall trips was discussed ing at the Station will be done soon, as well completion of the project with actual track he is now under proper treatment. His ill- as well as some preliminary ideas for as investigation of a security system for both construction beginning soon, resulting in ness is not contagious but will take many next year. For their assistance with our the Station and our 9th Street facility. The faster speed (30 MPH) for trains to and months to heal completely. Fall Trips the Chapter made donations to search for a possible tenant for our Franklin from the north and east through the old the following organizations: Shenandoah Road property continues. Randolph Street interlocking. Summary of Board Actions Rescue Squad, Shenandoah Volunteer Fire Chapter coach ex-N&W No. 512 has been NS Train 201 – A southbound counterpart December through February Department, Star City Striders, the Salem returned to Roanoke after an extended stay to intermodal train 202 has begun operat- By Jeff Sanders, President Rescue Squad, and the Town of Shenandoah. at NCTM in Spencer, NC. It was used on ing from Harrisburg to Memphis through t was reported that the father of new Chapter membership stands at 174. the Chapter train at VMT on Feb. 9 & 10. Roanoke. 201 makes a pickup at the new NS Imember Ben Shanks passed away. Our RFP for the hiring of Architects and Negotiations continue regarding the former intermodal terminal near Greencastle, PA. condolences to Ben. Engineers for Phase II of the Virginian N&W (MARC) coach. The NS 21st Century It usually operate through Roanoke in the The Chapter received an award from the Station restoration have been approved and Steam spring schedule has been released. daytime. Roanoke Valley Preservation Foundation on a legal notice posted in newspapers, with We hope to take part in any trains operated Kemper Street Station Article – The fourth November 29, 2012 for the restoration of bid opening planned for Jan. 13, 2013. in our area. Discussions continue concern- quarter issue of the Southern Railway Chesapeake Western Railway Baldwin No. Upon the recommendation of the ing possible fall trips. Historical Association publication “Ties” 662 for VMT. Nominating Committee (Paul Howell, We received proposals from four A&E has an excellent article by Garland Harper As always, the Treasurer’s report is avail- 19 6 1 ing that Wanda Troutman had such a big and New River Valleys, but also from every firms for the Phase II Virginian Station dure for dealing with unfilled seats on the part in this event in the past and we no lon- state, the District of Columbia and Puerto project, and have interviewed our top two board for which nobody ran; establishment ger have her with us. Rico and 49 other countries. The Museum choices. The Committee’s recommendation of an order of succession for President, VP, Mechanical Committee Report - (Lewis has also reached out to other non-profits and acceptance by the Board has been com- Secretary, Treasurer and General Council; Foster) - Over the last few months the to partner when and where it makes sense. pleted. We will meet with our first choice and establishment of leadership clarifica- Mechanical Department has completed For example, partnerships with the Roanoke to work out a mutual contract. See Virginian tion for the Advisory Council in the absence the work replacing the radiators and brake Chapter of the National Railway Historical Station Update elsewhere in this Turntable of the Vice President (the designated head valves on the Alco T-6 No. 41. The engine Society (Roanoke NRHS) and the LINK Times for more information. of this group under the new By-Laws) - No is now blue carded and was used for our Museum have also helped fuel attendance. Your Chapter Board meets at 7 PM the first details are yet available. Train Lovers’ Weekend trips at the Virginia The Roanoke NRHS offers train rides during Tuesday of each month at VMT and Chapter The 2013 RailCamp program is cancelled Museum of Transportation. We carried select special events throughout the year. members are always welcome to attend. for this year. Campers have been regularly over 2,300 passengers over Saturday and (VMT) housed in college dormitories. Very high Sunday February 9 and 10 and were able Virginia Transportation Bill Passes — Report Of NRHS National insurance requirements have been imposed to run much more efficiently thanks to the As part of the just-passed (Feb 23) Happenings by both universities at Scranton, PA and return of our N&W P2 class coach No. 512 Transportation Bill, Virginia becomes the By Carl Jensen, National Representative Tacoma, WA for child abuse coverage, a from Spencer. While the No. 512 needs first, and only, state with a dedicated pot ational Board Meeting was held on direct outgrowth of the Penn State and some freshening up (both inside and out) for passenger rail (the Virginia Intercity NJanuary 12-13 in Williamsburg, VA. Catholic Church scandals. Insurance was the extra 66 seats allowed us to double our Passenger Rail Operating and Capital Fund), Only Board members attended, no Advisory not even obtainable or was unreasonably train capacity and keep lines to ride much and we become (with the Governor’s sig- Council meeting was held. The Board spent expensive. Barry Smith, former head of the shorter. We also used the Devils Lake and nature) the first state to attach a dedicated, several hours in executive session, so all RailCamp program was released from his two cabooses. The Mechanical department sustainable, long-term funding source to the matters related to the business of the responsibility for health reasons. The pro- is currently helping in an Eagle Scout project advancement of our intercity and high speed Society are not known to the membership, gram will be headed by Don Maxwell for the to re-side our wooden box car so that it can passenger rail system. Over the next decade, and probably some won’t be disclosed by Scranton Camp and Bill Chapman for the be placed on display at VMT. The Chapter our Commonwealth is poised to invest $568 Management. Among them is a full account- Tacoma (Western) Camp. Both are aiming at property at Franklin Road is now cleaned million in our passenger rail system via ing of the current financial condition of the restarting the program in 2014 if possible. up thanks to Will Harris and his crew who IPROC and $230 million into our freight rail organization, detailed information of which The Cedar Rapids convention final report spent several days there removing brush and system via the Rail Enhancement Fund for has been woefully lacking for a number of was received, and the total loss was $50,500, small trees. We also plan on doing the brake a total investment of $798 million over the years, and on which rumors included a dis- instead of the originally predicted $30,000. valve rebuild on GP30 No. 522 this spring next 10 years to improve Virginia’s rail net- cussion of the possibility of running out of This was a record of the most unfortunate and hope to have it back in service soon. work. money within the next 2 years or less. (See kind, as no NRHS convention had ever come Our next run day at VMT is planned for The money invested into IPROC will: the Heard on the Street, below) close to such a loss, and some had large prof- May 11 and 12. The Mechanical Department - Allow for the continued operation of Several by-laws changes were necessary as its. To an extent the loss was offset by a last can use any help you can provide, both at Virginia’s six Amtrak Regional services; some unanticipated omissions in the origi- minute decision to set up a registration desk 9th street and when we’re running at VMT. - Expand Virginia Amtrak Regional service nal documents became apparent, subject to at the convention, and offer public sale of If you would like to see more of what the to Roanoke; ratification by the membership at the annual trip tickets (nearly $40,000, a record). Trips Mechanical Department is working on, - Extend two more Amtrak Regional ser- meeting later this year. De facto, many of were heavily publicized by a local TV station. please visit http://www.facebook.com/roano- vices to Norfolk/Virginia Beach; these changes are already in effect. They Prior to days with available space they did kenrhs/ - Invest in infrastructure improvements included making the offices of Secretary and several live broadcasts from the train featur- VMT - The Virginia Museum of between Richmond and Newport News Treasurer eligible to be filled by members ing the former MILW parlor observation car Transportation, the official transportation to enhance our current Amtrak Regional of the Board of Directors. The two incum- “CEDAR RAPIDS”. Local interest was strong museum of the Commonwealth of Virginia, services; bents were elected as Directors under the after TV featured onsite tours and explana- announced that attendance for 2012 - Invest in infrastructure improvements new board, so the President had to make tions about the car and its history. It pays to increased by 32.6 percent. The VMT wel- between Washington and Richmond that a change to avoid appointing new people. advertise. Had local sales not been so strong comed visitors not only from the Roanoke will enhance our current Amtrak inter- Other changes/additions: establish a proce- the overall convention loss would have been

15 101 significantly higher than $50,500. ($39 x 10,000 members = $390,000. Do the NKP 765. Mr. Delano has a limited number of books Alaska convention sales have started. math.). Look for a possible dues increase in • May 25, 26 and 27: Lewistown, Pa., to available about this railroad. He will talk Generally, early sales peak with people most the next year or so. The fall 2012 Bulletin Horseshoe Curve, Pa. Host: FWRHS. about this railroad and present a slide interested in attending ordering the big tick- is several months late, but Editor Jeff Smith Steam locomotive NKP 765. show about the depots that were scattered et items such as dome, and sales slack off did not explain why. Money problems here 21st Century Steam is a partnership throughout the area. The meeting will be thereafter. Convention planning for future too? between Norfolk Southern and TVRM held in the large meeting at the Franklin years 2014, 2015 is apparently on hold. The Alaska convention deadline to sign to operate steam-powered excursions County Library in Rocky Mount, VA. Very preliminary investigation of possible the Alaska RR contract is March 31, after throughout the territory Norfolk Southern May 11-12 - Roanoke Rail Fest at the sites took place during the fall of 2012 and which cancellation penalties as much as serves. More information is available Virginia Museum of Transportation, includ- earlier this year. Apparently there has been $70,000 begin to mount. Management has on the 21st Century Steam website at ing Chapter train rides. Info at www.vmt.org no specific action or planning since. Just a not escrowed convention revenue received www.21stcenturysteam.com (Norfolk May 16-19 – Cass Scenic Railfan Weekend, little over a year remains if a 2014 conven- so far and it is co-mingled with the general Southern and Trains News Wire). info at http://www.msrlha.org/ tion is to be held. society funds, although supposedly account- May 17-19 – Special Amtrak charter train “Heard On The Street” ed for separately. This may not bode well if The Timetable from Spencer, NC to Charleston, SC, and (Bits and pieces of info and rumors from cancellation becomes necessary, as refunds March 16 – 21st Century Steam excur- return. Coaches and first class, two nights various sources) to ticket holders and contractual penalty sions, 830 AM Roanoke to Walton and in Charleston. Most of the route is freight Society Financial Problems - Discussion obligations must be repaid. And, since some return, 130 PM to Lynchburg and return. only, over NS. Sponsored by North Carolina was held with the Board about the potential of this money has already been spent, the Roanoke Chapter volunteers to car host. Transportation and Watauga Valley Railroad for NRHS running out of money within the rest will have to come from general funds. SOLD OUT Historical Society & Museum. Info at http:// next two years. The very heavy conven- Lack of communication with the members March 17 (Planned) - Deadhead (no pas- www.nctrans.org/Events/EXCURSION---The- tion loss at Cedar Rapids hurt as original has been an ongoing problem. With the new sengers) ferry trip 21st Century Steam train Lowcountry-Limited.aspx 2012 budget projections called for a profit. smaller board of directors and the conse- Roanoke to Crewe. June 7-9 – CSXT Historical Society annual NRHS contractual obligations for the next quent reduction in the number of people March16 – National Association of convention, Winchester, KY. Info at http:// two years to Fernley and Fernley (“F&F”) who actually attend meetings there is even Railroad Passengers, Virginians for High- csxthsociety.org/ approaches $140,000-150,000 annually, less information available. The new regional Speed Rail, and Virginia Association June 12-16 – Norfolk & Western Historical plus payments for convention order and directors have some responsibility here and of Railway Patrons joint meeting in Society Annual Convention, Twin Falls State ticketing processing. There are other sig- at least some are trying. Our District 4 direc- Washington, DC. Info at http://www.narprail. Park, WV, Twin Falls is just a bit north of nificant operating expenses, among them tor, Larry Dyer from Atlanta, did put out a org/events/calendar Mullins, WV Info: www.nwhs.org the Bulletin (over $300,000 yearly), NRHS synopsis of the Williamsburg meeting March 23 – Roanoke Model Train Show at July 28 – August 1 – Chesapeake & Ohio News, the NRHS Grants Program and vari- I plan to attend the next meeting of the the Virginia Museum of Transportation, info Historical Society Annual Conference, Info: ous contracted services like PR and Fund Board and the Advisory Committee at West at www.vmt.org www.cohs.org Raising fees. NRHS investment funds were Chester, Ohio (near Cincinnati) April 5-7. No April 7 – Portsmouth, OH to Roanoke via August 10 - {Saturday} Blue Ridge Chapter, seriously eroded in 2012, dropping in value agendas are available as of this writing. Gilbert Branch (ex-N&W) and the Guyandotte NRHS “Lynchburg Rail Day 2013”, www.blu- from nearly $450,000 in January to about River Branch (ex-Virginian) between eridgenrhs.org $186,000 by the end of the year. That is a Membership Report Wharncliffe and Elmore Park. Overnight September 13-22 – NRHS annual conven- (-$264,000) LOSS folks or nearly 60% of the By Walter Alexander in Roanoke. April 8 - Roanoke to Norfolk, tion in Alaska, info at http://www.nrhs.com/ value of the funds since the beginning of wenty-five year awards and pins VA Abilene, Burkeville, Norfolk Bridge the year. It appears management is using Thave been received for five members. 5. High Iron Travel five car special train, LCL (Less Than Carload) up the nest egg of investment money to These will be presented by our National Southeastern Explorer, from Chicago to Annual Gathering - The December 20 pay current bills. The original intent of this Representative Carl Jensen. Congratulations Norfolk. Info at www.highirontravel.com Annual Holiday Gathering was a great suc- fund was growth, with dividend income to to Keaton L. Tabor, Elizabeth M. Sabatinos, Tuesday, April 16, 2013 from 7 until 8 cess, with 73 members and friends attend- be used for current expenses, not the prin- Kathy Regenold, David D. Meashey, and p.m., Tex Delano will give a small talk about ing. Thanks to Bonnie Molinary, Kathy ciple. Meanwhile dues income continues Shirley A. Jensen for their continued loyalty the F&P Railroad, which went through Overholser, and many helpers for a wonder- to decrease because of lower membership. to Roanoke Chapter NRHS. Franklin County and the Pittsylvania area. ful time. The only sad part was remember-

111 4 1 The Baggage and Express Building of the flowing history of the Virginian Railway. The Chapter has lost long-time Honorary ringing the bell and blowing 611’s whistle Station will house a display of Virginian Member Julien Sacks, who passed away on arranged by Chapter members Gary Gray Railway artifacts in the east room. This will 21st Century Steam for 2013 January 16, 2013. (See article elsewhere in and Chad Jordan and Rick Rader who set up include items now on display in the Virginia The Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum this issue) a compressed air system. A fitting salute to Museum of Transportation (“Virginian- (TVRM) and the Fort Wayne Railroad The dues renewal cycle for 2013 has offi- a memorable day! Roanoke’s Other Railway” Room) plus many Historical Society (FWRHS), in partnership cially closed as dues expire on December more that have been collected and stored with Norfolk Southern Corporation, will 31st. If you have renewed for 2013, you Roanoke Hump Yard Closing so far: Hopefully the Clock that served the host 21st Century Steam excursion trips in were sent a green Roanoke Chapter mem- orfolk Southern announced February25 railway in the nearby Yard Office of South Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, Ohio, bership card. If you have not renewed, Nthat it will cease regional railcar clas- Yard; Lanterns; Locks and Keys; Timetables; and Pennsylvania in the Spring of 2013. please mail your dues to the Chapter P.O. sification operations at its Roanoke Terminal Models of locomotives including diesel, Schedules, prices, and ticketing informa- box. National will be mailing reminders to hump yard in Roanoke, Va. This will mean steam and electric as well as other rolling tion are available at www.tvrail.com for those who have not renewed; because of the elimination of about 140 positions. The stock and passenger equipment; maps; large TVRM-hosted trips and fortwaynerailroad. lead times and processing schedules, some Terminal will continue to provide service drawings, a dispatch panel that will be pro- org for FWRHS-sponsored trips. Norfolk of you who recently renewed may receive a to local customers, and to be a hub for grammed with a video of a modern train Southern employees will be able to request second notice. As of mid-February, we have through-train operations. traveling from Demuth to Altavista; tools; tickets for the employee appreciation trips 149 members in good standing and 23 who The Roanoke hump operation has seen a photographs; fixtures, etc. soon through the ERC. have not renewed. Please contact me via steady decline in the volume of general mer- Also there will be an audio/video stream • March 2: Chattanooga, Tenn., to Attalla, email ([email protected]) or phone (540) chandise cars handled by about 30 percent of VGN DVDs and those featuring Skip Ala. Powered by Southern 2-8-0 630. 345-5826 if you have any question about since 2006. At the same time, system-wide Salmon’s interviews with many of the for- Host: TVRM. your dues status. improvements in the railroad’s operations mer Virginian employees. Also a computer • March 9: Bristol, Va., to Radford, Va. have freed up network capacity such that terminal(s) will allow visitors to research the Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive SOU We are involved in FIRE UP 611! classification operations now performed at VGN RY through the N&W Historical Society 630. SOLD OUT By Dorr Tucker Roanoke are no longer necessary. Archives. • March 10: Bristol, Va., to Bulls Gap, riday February 22 was a significant day in “The employees who work at Roanoke are The middle rooms will be the office of Tenn. Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive FRoanoke with the announcement that a dedicated and efficient,” said Terry Evans, Roanoke Chapter NRHS and Board Room. SOU 630. SOLD OUT committee will embark on a 90 day feasibil- vice president transportation. “But the geo- We could use VGN drawings of former desks • March 16: Roanoke, Va., to Radford, Va. ity study of returning the world renowned graphical location and layout of the hump and fixtures including a large Dispatchers (morning), and Roanoke to Lynchburg, Norfolk and Western Class J 4-8-4 steam yard make it not only expensive but redun- table for consideration to construct a custom Va. (afternoon). Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive No. 611 to operating condition. dant within our network.” built Conference Room table (with several locomotive SOU 630. Combination pub- The Virginia Museum of Transportation Most of the affected positions are carmen, different woods to make the VGN herald). lic and NS employee appreciation trips. study - called Fire Up 611 - will ascertain who inspect and repair railcars, and train This board room will be used for Chapter SOLD OUT what will be needed to restore, maintain, crews, who conduct switching operations in Board meetings as well as other activities. •March 23: Norfolk to Petersburg, Va. and operate this magnificent Roanoke built the yard. Some track maintenance positions The west rooms of the B&E Building with 630. Host: TVRM. SOLD OUT steam passenger locomotive. Chapter presi- are affected. (Norfolk Southern) includes two bath rooms (one will be • April 13: Spencer, N.C., to Barber, dent Jeff Sanders will serve on the commit- Chapter members Jeff Sanders and Ken designated Handicapped) for the nearby N.C. Host: TVRM. Steam locomotive tee of nine headed up by Chapter member Miller were quoted February 26 in The Greenway travelers. The old boiler room SOU 630. Combination public and NS Preston Claytor, son of the late Bob Claytor, Roanoke Times. See the article at: http:// (below ground level) and storage above, may employee appreciation trip. former N&W and NS President. Chapter ww2.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/320885/ store artifacts and be a workshop of sorts. • April 20 and 21: Asheville, N.C., to Old member Ron Davis is also a member. Other The “attic” of this building will be used Fort, N.C. Host: TVRM. Steam locomo- members include Bev Fitzpatrick, Jim Wrinn, Culinary Delights On The 1148 for storage and HVAC equipment. We will tive SOU 630. April 20 is combination and Scott Lindsay. See the committee’s By Dorr Tucker consult with our Architect and Engineering public and NS employee trip. website – www.fireup611.org - for more n January 29, 2013 Roanoke Chapter professionals for presentation and actual • May 12: Rocky River, Ohio, to Bellevue, information. The fifteen minute press con- Ohosted the local America Culinary display features including some sort of a Ohio. Host: FWRHS. Steam locomotive ference at VMT on the 22nd was closed by Foundation Chapter’s Mystery Dinner. After

3 12 a vintage bus ride from the Commonwealth door leading into 1148’s dinette was covered Member Julien Sacks Passes Virginian Station Update Coach and Trolley Museum, members were by cardboard to conceal our evening feast treated to dinner in our diner-dormitory from the passengers. Unfortunately the pun- By Jeff Sanders By Jim Cosby and Skip Salmon 1148 Devils Lake on the grounds of the gent aroma of garlic was a dead giveaway ulien I. Sacks, charter Chapter member onstruction for Phase I (Brownfield Virginia Museum of Transportation. The that the Chapter crew was having a far bet- J(from 1968), passed away January 16, Ccleanup, building stabilization and roof menu included flounder rolled into a lobster ter evening meal than our customers. This 2013, in Rockville, Maryland. He was 91 replacement) commenced on February puree, duck spring rolls and watercress salad resulted in a long standing policy remaining years young. Many of us saw Julien for the 22, 2012 and was substantially completed among other delicacies. in effect today that paying passengers are last time when he came to Roanoke to ride by July 31, 2012. Our final report on the This event brings back memories of anoth- served the best food and served first. At any with us on our Roanoke-Danville fall excur- Brownfield cleanup was submitted to EPA er scrumptious meal served in the same car rate, we were able to enjoy Eric’s superb sion train in 2010. He was getting around on July 10, 2012, but was not approved by back in 1975. cooking for three more meals on IL III. well and greeted us all with his ever-present them until December 31, 2012. Phase I is The Independence Limited III was sched- smile. Julien loved life and loved people. now complete. uled to operate out of Knoxville with Mixed Freight Julien owned his own shoe store, “Julien’s After obtaining approvals from Valley Shoes” in Roanoke from 1949 until he Metro, the City of Roanoke and VDOT of Locomotive 4501 on July 3rd of that year By Mr. Robin R. Shavers retired and sold the business in 1985. our bid documents, a Request for Proposals and run to Roanoke by the way of Norton y the time you read this, the worst of “Julien’s Shoes” served as a ticket outlet for from architectural and engineering firms and Bluefield. Unfortunately (or perhaps winter will probably be over with Spring B many of our early excursion trips. Julien was was published December 17, 2012. Four pro- fortunately) due to a tunnel collapse the ready to take the helm. For a lot of us, this also the consummate salesman. He willingly posals were received on January 11, 2013. train detoured over the Clinchfield from St winter wasn’t that bad unless you reside in shared his knowledge with the Chapter. Upon review of the proposals and inter- Paul to Johnson City and on to Roanoke via the extreme northeastern states. I am one of Besides ticket sales, he helped with advertis- views of the two leading contenders, we Bristol. But that is a story in itself. However those folks who recycles just about anything ing and our souvenir sales on our trips as selected the proposal of Spectrum Design, to get our rolling stock and personnel to that is practical and sensible. This includes well as our souvenir operation at VMT. a team consisting of Spectrum, Barry A. Knoxville we arranged for the operation of calendars. Calendars for 1983 and 2002 are Prior to Julien's involvement in the Rakes, Architect, Hill Studio, Landscape a four car diesel powered passenger extra compatible with 2013. Roanoke Chapter, he also was involved in Architects, Alison S. Blanton, Architectural departing Roanoke At 1PM on July 2 and In my last Mixed Freight column, I gave a railroading in the area, as he was a member Historian, and Kenneth L. Miller, Technical arriving Knoxville at 8PM the same evening brief report on my visit to the High Bridge of the first model railroad club in Roanoke Advisor / Historian. A proposed contract (editors note: Mr. Robert Claytor’s office car just east of Farmville. I reported that my and was involved in building a display lay- has been sent to Spectrum. When signed by N&W No. 500 may have been on the point friends and I were joined by five dogs that out for the Norfolk and Western in 1957. Spectrum, the RFP package, proposal and followed by our 1148, 1204, 1205 & 1210). resided at a nearby residence. If you bring Julien served on the Chapter Board of contract will be sent to the City of Roanoke And since we had two empty coaches your dog to visit the bridge or trail, a leash Directors off and on for about 17 years. and VDOT for their review. Upon approval, available we decided to sell the connecting is required for each dog. This is stated on a His terms in office included Secretary, it will be signed by Chapter officers. train as the “COACH EXPRESS”. For some board of rules and regulations for the entire Treasurer, Vice President three times and The architectural and engineering firms unknown reason the IL trip flyer didn’t HIGH BRIDGE TRAIL PARK. The owners President three times. We already missed will then need to complete the drawings make it perfectly clear that the connection of those dogs could have been charged for him and his wife Genie when they moved to and specifications permitting us to bid to Knoxville was a train rather than a “Motor each dog had the park ranger showed. The Maryland in 1986. Genie passed away sever- Phase II in approximately summer 2013. Coach.” Apparently there was a degree of H.B.T.P. does indeed have its own official al years ago. Upon his move from Roanoke, Our goal is to have Phase II substantially uncertainty when the trip flyers went to law enforcement vehicle. we bestowed upon Julien a lifetime honor- completed by March 31, 2014 with final press. Nevertheless we did run as a passen- 2013 presents quite a few timelines. Come ary Chapter membership. completion in the summer of 2014. We will ger extra and served 100 deluxe box suppers May of this year, it will be 50 years since Julien was an important member of the lease the larger former passenger station while changing train crews in Bristol. the Chesapeake & Ohio Railway assumed Chapter for many years and his invaluable building to a tenant and use the smaller For the benefit of our Chapter crew Eric control of the Baltimore & Ohio Railroad. judgment and knowledge will be missed. former baggage and express building for Crane agreed to cook a complete spaghetti 2013 marks 20 years since the creation of But, more importantly, we have lost a Chapter purposes and a display area to dinner that was served between Johnson Metro North Commuter Railroad. It also friend. explain, honor and remember the Virginian City and Morristown on the Southern. To marks 100 years since the opening of Grand Railway and its employees. assure our privacy the rear window in the Central Terminal back in 1913. Closer to

13 2 home, it will be 10 years in April since C&O Southern. In less than five minutes I would Kanawha No. 2732 was moved from the for- be shaking hands and talking with them The Roanoke Chapter of the National Railway Historical Society mer Richmond, Virginia, Visitor Center site both. This is what I am referring to when I will hold its next regularly scheduled meeting on Thursday, March it its new home at The Science Museum of sometimes ask myself that question noted 21, 2013. The meeting will be held in the auditorium at the O. Virginia, formerly Broad Street Station. earlier on this story. Both men were friendly Winston Link Museum at 7:30 pm. Please be sure to enter at the When I arise early in the morning for a and talkative as if we had known each other west end of the building on the track level. day of railfaning or to attend a railroad relat- for years. CEO Moorman even requested my Throughout the year, please note our inclement weather policy ed event, I sometimes say to myself, “I won- email for a specific reason and he delivered below, and always check the website for the most up to date infor- der that the day will bring.” Those of you just before Christmas. After speeches by a mation.Meeting Notice that are involved with railroading are aware number of individuals, the train and yours Volume 45, Number 1 Our April meeting well be held Thursday April 18 at 7:30 pm. that the new Amtrak service for Norfolk truly were off for Richmond. This time, I Jan-Feb-Mar. 2012 May's monthly meeting will be held on Thursday, May 16 and June starting this past December was a big goal and some others were in for a real treat. will be Thursday, June 20. of achievement for proponents of enhanced While the Whistle Stop Train was stopped at passenger service for Virginia and the Richmond for the festivities, Amtrak P089, nation as a whole. On Tuesday December the southbound Palmetto, arrived with a Editors: 11th, Amtrak operated a Whistle Stop Train Southern Railway business car bringing up Jim Overholser Cards and Flowers to promote the new service and to have its markers stopping right beside the Amtrak [email protected] If you know of a Chapter Member who is sick, lost a loved one the equipment in place for the first day of business car bringing up the markers on the new service scheduled for Wednesday, the WST. You folks should have seen the Dorr Tucker or has a new birth in the family, please contact Bonnie Molinary. December 12. The Whistle Stop Tour made excitement on Mr. Moorman’s face when [email protected] Bonnie is responsible for Chapter cards and flowers and can be reached at 362-0273. stops at Ashland, Richmond’s Staples Mill he returned to the Amtrak business car and Mixed Freight From The Head End Depot, Petersburg (Ettrick Station), and of noticed the Southern business car on the Robin R. Shavers Deadline for Turntable Times course, Norfolk. My goal was to attend the next track over. For the uninformed, Mr. festivities in Ashland and then Richmond. I Moorman worked for Southern Railway in [email protected] The deadline for the next issue of Turntable Times is Saturday, May 25, 2013. Please send articles, information and exchange hit the tracks early to take in some morning maintenance of way in the earlier days of Historian newsletters to: Editor Turntable Times, P.O. Box 13222, Roanoke, CSX action and to arrive in Ashland around his railroading career. Kenneth L. Miller 10 a.m. The festivities were to start around VA, 24032. All parties sending newsletters to the Roanoke Chapter Powhatan Arrow Coach Returns [email protected] via email should send them to Jim Overholser: jgoverholser@ 10:30 with the train arriving around 10:45. verizon.net, Dorr Tucker at [email protected] and Ken Miller at To my surprise, I secured a parking spot less To Roanoke [email protected] than a block from the Ashland Station. A By Dorr Tucker All materials should be CSX official arrived right behind me. There ormer Norfolk and Western P2 66 pas- sent directly to the Editors Meeting Cancellation Policy was a nice sized crowd on hand. The weath- Fsenger coach No. 512 owned by the at their email address listed er was sunny and very cool. It was tee shirt Chapter has returned home after 13 years of Any Chapter meeting will be considered cancelled if any of the with their names. flip flop weather the day before. Ashland service elsewhere. This car, built by Pullman following conditions are due to weather: Roanoke City Schools are residents had tables of cookies and hot bev- Standard for The Powhatan Arrow, was in closed on the day of or for the day after the meeting, or Virginia erages available to all. MAN THAT CIDER regular service on trains 25 & 26 as well as Western night classes are cancelled for the night of a meeting. WAS GOOD. The train arrives with an Turntable Times is published trains 3 & 4 from delivery in December 1949 quarterly as the newsletter of Cover Photo Amtrak Heritage Unit on the point, the origi- until the end of scheduled N&W passenger the Roanoke Chapter, National nal scheme dubbed “bloody nose” by rail- service in May of 1971. In later years, par- Railway Historical Society, Inc. Top: Ken Miller was lucky to catch heritage unit 1069 in Virginian Opinions and points of view paint going west with an empty train at Montgomery Tunnel on fans. Passengers detrain. I recognize two of ticularly in the late 1960s, the car was also expressed herein are those of the February 24th, all he had was his cell phone. She sure looks good! them immediately - Mr. Joseph Boardman, seen on trains 41 & 42. In all probability the staff members of the Turntable President and Chief Executive Officer for car may have operated on trains 17, 18, 45 Times and not necessarily reflect Bottom: Skip Salmon captured 8099 in Southern paint sitting in those of the members, officers or front of our station with snow on the new tile roof. Some of us Amtrak and Mr. Wick Moorman, President & 46 on occasion. Valley trains 1 & 2 were directors of the Chapter. thought we might never see the day, for either of these images! and Chief Executive Officer for Norfolk assigned modern P series coaches from 1 14 around 1959 to discontinuance on February The Official Newsletter of pcoming eetings vents 2, 1963 so the 512 may have operated on the U M /E the Roanoke Chapter, National Shenandoah Division as well. Before being cut Regular Meeting Locations are at Railway Historical Society, Inc. off in 1966, trains 15 & 16 usually ran with the O. Winston Link Museum. only one coach and were usually assigned cars 501 or 502 that seated 68 but, like anything March 21 - General Meeting Volume 45, Number 1 else, there were probably exceptions. At any April 2 - Board Meeting Jan.-Feb.-Mar. 2013 rate, we are all pleased to get this car home April 18 - General Meeting where it came in handy for Rail Day rides at The Virginia Museum of Transportation on May 7 - Board Meeting February 9 & 10. May 16 - General Meeting By-Laws June 4 - Board Meeting On March 4, the Board of Directors June 20 - General Meeting approved a revised set of By-Laws. Members July 2 -Board Meeting who would like a PDF copy may email By-Laws Committee Chairman Walter Alexander at July 18 - General Meeting [email protected], or may call him at (540) August 6 - Board Meeting 345-5826 and request a paper copy sent by US August 15 - General Meeting postal mail. Visit us on the web: www.RoanokeNRHS.org

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