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Wednesday Volume 615 19 October 2016 No. 45 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 19 October 2016 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2016 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 785 19 OCTOBER 2016 786 financial support from the UK Government. Will the House of Commons UK Government give financial support to the growth bid? Wednesday 19 October 2016 Alun Cairns: I pay tribute to the hon. Gentleman for the work he is doing cross-border with the Mersey Dee The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Alliance and the all-party group on Mersey Dee North Wales. That resonates with our policy to develop a PRAYERS growth deal that works on a cross-border basis. We are working with those who are developing the north Wales growth deal. We are in negotiations on that. We have [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] recently received the Growth Track 360 bid, and we will analyse that in due course. We are keen to work together, Oral Answers to Questions and with the Welsh Government. 10. [906621] Oliver Colvile (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Con): As my right hon. Friend knows, WALES train passengers from and to my constituency use part of the Great Western railway line. When will the new intercity express trains for the Great Western rail line The Secretary of State was asked— be operational? Infrastructure Investment Alun Cairns: My hon. Friend highlights the investment 1. Alberto Costa (South Leicestershire) (Con): What in the Great Western main line, and much attention is recent discussions he has had with the Welsh Government rightly drawn to the infrastructure of the electrification on future infrastructure investment in Wales. [906612] itself. However, it is fair to say that, as soon as we have electrified as far as Didcot or Swindon, the new trains The Secretary of State for Wales (Alun Cairns): I am will be operational, so his constituents, my constituents sure the whole House will join me in marking the and those in Wales and the south-west in general will 50th anniversary of the Aberfan tragedy this Friday. benefit from modern trains well before the infrastructure That event shocked not just Wales but the whole of the has been completed. country and the wider world. I am sure colleagues across the House will pay tribute to the bravery and Susan Elan Jones (Clwyd South) (Lab): Roads are strong community ties that pulled the people of Aberfan critical in infrastructural investment—roads on both through the immediate aftermath and provided so much sides of the border. What conversations has the right support in the months and years that followed. hon. Gentleman had with the Welsh Government about Wales is benefiting from millions of pounds of UK the A5/A483, which goes from Oswestry towards the investment across the country. We are modernising our Wrexham area, given the particular road safety problems rail infrastructure, investing in the North Wales prison, in the community of Chirk? and providing significant funding and support to improve internet speeds. This is a clear demonstration of the Alun Cairns: The hon. Lady raises an important Government’s commitment to delivering improvements point. It is something that has crossed the discussions in infrastructure in all corners of Wales. over the north Wales growth deal, and it underlines the interconnectivity of the region she mentions with Alberto Costa: Wales receives its funding from the Manchester,Merseyside and north Wales. Weare working Barnett bloc, but does my right hon. Friend recognise closely with the Welsh Government on their infrastructure that the UK Government have a part to play in UK plan and the national infrastructure plans for the whole infrastructure so that it meets the strategic need in the of the United Kingdom. It is important that they UK as well as in Wales? dovetail appropriately. Alun Cairns: My hon. Friend raises an important 12. [906623] Dr James Davies (Vale of Clwyd) (Con): point. He rightly underlines the Barnett arrangements, The Minister will be aware of a range of infrastructure and we were pleased to introduce a funding floor that improvement proposals in the north Wales and Mersey provides Wales with £115 for every £100 that is spent in Dee taskforce’s Growth Track 360 plan. Could he advise England. In addition, we have the electrification of the on the merits of seeking funding via a north Wales Great Western main line, North Wales prison is a significant growth bid supported by cross-border partners to accelerate project, and we have broadband roll-out. After all, we the delivery of those elements of the plan that are are interconnected economies, and the Government are priorities in the short term, and would he help facilitate determined to do the best for the whole of the UK. that? 15. [906626] Ian C. Lucas (Wrexham) (Lab): May I first Alun Cairns: I pay tribute to my hon. Friend for the associate myself with the right hon. Gentleman’sappropriate work he has done on this important issue. I think he remarks concerning Aberfan? drew attention to it at one of the first meetings immediately I am pleased to hear the emphasis on infrastructure after the general election, and that started the discussions interconnectivity.The Minister will know that the excellent that have led to the Growth Track 360 proposal. There north Wales growth bid—supported by business,cross-party are growth elements and transport infrastructure elements, politicians and local authorities in north Wales—needs and it is important that we ensure that those come 787 Oral Answers 19 OCTOBER 2016 Oral Answers 788 together for the benefit of the whole region. I am happy If the Swansea city deal is as good as early indications to work with him and with the Department for Transport appear to suggest, it can be supported by this Government as we approach the control period 6 considerations that in due course. will take place in due course. Christina Rees (Neath) (Lab/Co-op): The Swansea Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) bay city deal aims to turn the region, which includes (PC): I, too, associate my party and myself with the Neath, into a digital super-hub to boost the local economy, Secretary of State’s comments on the Aberfan disaster. transform energy delivery, and improve health and social The Treasury aims to pool local government pension care. Will the Minister assure the House that this deal schemes in Wales and England to create wealth funds to will not face the delays experienced by the Swansea bay invest in infrastructure, with each fund containing tidal lagoon and rail electrification projects? accumulated assets of £25 billion. Combined Welsh assets amount to £13 billion, meaning that if the Treasury Guto Bebb: It is important to point out that this was has its way, Welsh funds will be swallowed up by a announced in the last Budget and is being taken forward. cross-border pool. Will the Secretary of State demand However,there is a bottom-up approach. This Government a specific Welsh wealth fund so that the contributions of do not take the view that Westminster knows best. We Welsh local government workers are used to invest in believe very strongly that the proposal should come infrastructure projects in Wales? from the region, and it is fantastic to see the way in which the four local authorities are working together. I Alun Cairns: The hon. Gentleman raises a fairly am confident that the deal brings something quite special technical area of policy. Appropriate economies of scale to south-west Wales, but let us see the detail. If the are involved in this. I am happy to discuss the details detail is persuasive, the support will be forthcoming. with him. The Welsh Government have made their views clear. However, it is not only about “Welsh money Rail Electrification for Wales”—which, on the face of it, would sound good—but about having the economies of scale such 3. Justin Madders (Ellesmere Port and Neston) (Lab): that we can access funding elsewhere as well. Therefore, What recent discussions he has had with the Secretary it is not necessarily the right thing, but I am certainly of State for Transport on rail electrification in Wales. not closed to the idea. [906614] Swansea Bay City Deal The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Guto Bebb): This week will see the completion of the 2. Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op): What engineering work in the Severn tunnel required for the recent discussions he has had with the Chancellor of electrification of the Great Western main line. This is a the Exchequer on whether funding for the Swansea bay truly historic occasion and a clear demonstration of city deal will be included in the autumn statement. this Government’scommitment to deliver a rail investment [906613] strategy that will benefit the people of Wales in its entirety. The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Guto Bebb): I am very supportive of achieving a deal Justin Madders: The Secretary of State has spoken of for the Swansea bay city region. However, this is not the Growth Track 360 campaign, which, as the Minister about Government telling local authorities what to do; will know, has the potential to transform the north it is about empowering them to bring forward bespoke Wales and Cheshire area by delivering 70,000 new jobs proposals for their region. I welcomed the announcement over 20 years. Improving the Wrexham to Bidston line, in the Budget that we were opening negotiations, but it which serves Neston in my constituency,has been identified must be the right deal—a well-thought-out deal that as the first priority for the team.