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NAYS-Messrs. Allison, Bayard, Boreman, Boutwell, Buck-ingham, Clayton, HOUR OF 1\fEETING. Conkling, Cooper, Davis. Edmunds, Frelinghuysen, HAger, Hamilton of Maryland, Hitc-hcock, Jones, Kelly, McCreery, Merrimon, MorrillofVermont, Norwood, Ram· Mr. EDMUNDS. I move· tllat when the Senate adjourn to -da.y it sey, Ransom, Saulsbnry, Scott, Sherman, Wadleigh. and Wright-27. be to meet at twelve o'clock to-morrow. There are so ma.ny commit ABSENT-Me srs. Alcorn, Bogy, Bro'lrnlow, Cameron, Cragin, Dennis, Dorsey, tee meetings necessary that I think we had better meet at twelve · Fenton, Fe.rry of Connecticut, Gofuthwaite, Gordon, llamilton of Texas, Hamlin, Howe, In.gallR, Johnston, Lewis. Logan, Morrill of Maine, Oglesby, Pease, Robert o'clock t.o-morrow. · son, Schurz, Spencer, Soovenson, Stockton, and Thurman-27. The PRESIDENT pro ternpm·e. For to-morrow only f Mr. ED~1UNDS. I make-the motion for to-morrow only inasmuch So the amendment wa-s rejected. as the day following being Decoration Day we probably shall not meet~ The !'RESIDING OFFlCER. The questionnow is on ordering the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The question is on the motion that bill to be engrossed for a third reading. when the ~enate meet to-morrow it be at twelve o'clock. Mr. MORTON called for the yeas andriays; and they were ordered. The motion was agreed to. Mr. EDMUNDS. I a k the chairman of the committee if the clanse still stands in the bill which authorizes all the male inhabitants of SE~ATOR FROM ALABAMA. that Territory to vote at the first election Y Mr. :MERRIMON. - I desiretostatethat I havereceivedanotefrom Mr. BOREMAN. I think the Senator is mistaken about that. _ the Senator from Alabama. [l\Ir. GOLDTHWAITE] stating that he is Mr. ED~HJNDS. I am not asking whether I am mistaken or not; too ill to be here to-day. He desired to be present and to ta~e part I am asking if the clause remains as it stood reported by the com- in the discussion touching the Alabama senatorial election; but he mittee 1 . has been unable to come on account of illness. Mr. BOREMA..~. Yes, sh-. REVISION OF THE LAWS. Mr. EDMUNDS. That is enough for me. The PRESIDENT pro tentpore laid before the Senate the following 11.Ir. RAMSEY. There is nothing new in that. resolution from the House of Represent.atives: The question oeing taken by yeas and nays, result-ed-yeas 19, nays Resolved b1J the House of Representatives, (the Se-1utte concurring,) That the joint 29; aa follows: rule of the two Houses, No.6, which provides that after a bill shall have passed YEAS-Messrs. ~ogy , Boreman, Chancller, Clayton, Ferry of Michigan, Flan both Houses it shall be duly enrolled on parchment, bo snspended so far as relates agan, Harvey, llitchcock, Jones, Kelly, Lo"'an, Mitchell, Pat~rson, Pratt, Ram- to bills of this House No. 1215, to revise and consoliclate the statutes of the United sey, Sherman, Tipton, Wadleigh, and Windom-19. . States in force on the 1st day of Decem her, 1873 ; No. 2379, revising and consoliclatin~ NAYS-Messrs. Anthony, Bayard, Boutwell Buckingham, Carpenter, Conklina, all the laws authorizing post-roads in force on the 1st day of December, 1873; ann Conover, Davis, Edmunds, Fretlnghuysen, Gilbert, Hager, Hamilt-on of Marylan3, No. 3349, to revise ancl con-olidate the statnt!;Js of the United States, general and Ingall , Johnston, McC1·cery, Merrirnon, Monill of Maine, MoiTill of Vermont, permanent in their nature, relatinz to the District of Columbia, in force on the 1st Norwood, Ran. om, Sargent, Saulsbury, Scott, Sprague, Stewart, Washburn, West, day of December, 1873; and that tne same may be presented to the President of the and Wri:rht-29. United States as 'engrossed in the Hot~se of Representatives and passed in the ABSENT-Messrs. Aloom, Allison, Brownlow Cameron, Cooper, Cragin, Den Senate. nis, Dorsey, Fenton, Ferry of Cormecticut, Goldthwaite, Gordon, -Hamilt-on of Texas, Hamlin, Howe, Lems, Morton, Oglesby, Pease, Robertson, Schurz, Spencer, Mr. CONKLING. I suppose_there will be no objection to acting '3tevenson, Stockton, and Thurman-25. on that resolution now. Mr. EDMUNDS. I think we had better let it wait until to-morrow So the bill was rejected. morning. I move that the Senate adjourn. ME SAGE FROM THE HOUSE. :r.1r. ANTHONY. Allow me to make a suggestion in regard to this A message from the Hou.Se of Representatives, by Mr. McPHERSON, m~~' • its Clerk, announced that the House han disagreed to the amendment l\fr. ED:MUND_S. · If we lay it over until to-morrow, the suggestion of the Senate to the bill (H. R No. 1572) to amenrl the several a,cts can be made then. · providing a national currency and to establish free banking, and for Mr. ANTUONY. Very well. . other pmposes, asked. a. conference on the disagreeing votes of the The PRESIDENT pro tempore. Will the Senator allow the Chair two House thereon. and had appointed Mr. HORACE MAYNARD of ·to dispose of the business on his tableT Tenne ee, Mr. C. B. li'ARWELL of Illinois, and Mr. HIESTER CLYl\ffiR Mr. ED~1UNDS. I think we had better adjomn. of Pennsylvania, managers at the same on its part. Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. Will the Senator allow me to call up The message further annotmced that the House had passed the fol an appropriation bill t • lowing bills; in which it requested the concurrence of the Senate: Mr. EDMUNDS. I will, if the purpose is to leave it as the nnfin- A bill (H. R. No. 342Z) for the relief of .Mercy Aim Hall, widow of ished business. ' Captain Charles F. Hall; and MILITARY ACADE?IIY APPROPRIATION BILL. A bill (H. R. No. 3522)to extend the j.nrisdictionof the Light-Honse Mr. MORRILL, of Maine. I move that tbe· Senate proceed to the Board. · consideration of the bill (H. R. No. 2545) making appropriations for ENROLLED BIL.LS SIG::m:D. the support of the l\lilitary Academy for the fiscal year ending June The message also announced that the Speaker of the House had 30, 1875. signed the following enrolled bills; and they were thereupon signed The motion wa.s .agreed to. by the President pro tempore: Mr. EDMUNDS. That bill being taken up, I renew my motion · A bill (H. R. No. 2782) to extend the time to pre-emptors on the that the Senate adjourn. pnb:ic lands in the State of Minnesota to make final payment; The motion was agreed to; and (at four o'clock and fifty minutes A bill (H. R. No. 1560) to amend an act entitled "An a{}t to amend p.m.) the Senate anjourned. ( an act entitled 'An act to reduce duties on imports and to redn,ce in ternal taxes, and for other purposes,"' approved March 3, 1873; A bill (H. R. No. 8267) changing the name and location of Irasburgh National Bank of Orleans, county of Orleans, State of Vermont; A. bill (H. R. No. _2999) for the relief of Henry A. Webst-er, V. B. HOUSE OF REPRE S~NTATIVES. McCollum, and A. Colby, of Washington Territory, pre-emptors on the · THURSDAY, ]fay 28, 1874. Makah Indian reservation ; and A bill (H. R. No. 1590) to provide for the better protection of the The House met at eleven o'clock a. m. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. frontier settlements of Texas against Indian and Mexican depreda J. G. BUTLER, D. D. tions. The. Journal of yesterday was read and appr~ved. . BALTIMORE AND OillO RAILROAD. · . ADl\llSSION OF COLORADO AS A STATE. Mr. MORRILL, of Vermont, submitted .an amendment intended to Mr. CHAFFEE, from the Committee on the Territories, by unani be proposerl by him to the bill (S. No. 571) to authorize the Baltimore mous consent, reported a bill (H. R. No. 3521) toonab]e the people of and Ohio Railroad Company to construct a branch, and to change the Colorado to form a constitution and State government, and fo~ the location of its road within the District of Columbia, and for other admission of said State into the Union on an equal footing with the purpo es; which was ordered to be printed.· _ . . • original States; which was read a first and second time, ordered to be: printed, and recommitted to the Committee on the Territories, not to PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS. be brought back on a motion to reconsider. Mr. MORTON. Mr. President, on the lOth of March, 1873, the Sen ate of the United States adopted the following resolut.ion: EVENING SESSIO~S. R esolved, That the Committee on Privileges and Elections be instructed t.o ex Mr. DAWES. I ask unanimous consent of the Honse that a session amine and report, at the next session of Congress, upon the best and most practica- be held this evenin~ for the purpose of proceeding with the considera 1le mode of electing the President, and providing a tribunal to adjust and decide tion of the tariff bill. · all contested questions connected thereWith, with1eav_:e to sit during vacation. The SPEAKER. To be accompanied by an order that at half Orr behalf of the committee I now beg leave to submit a report on past four o'clock, without further motion, the Speaker shall declare a' that subject. · ~~ . 'l'he PRESIDENT pro tempore. Thereportwill be laid on the table Mr. DAWES. Certainly. and printed. . No objection being made, it was so ordered. Mr. MORTON. I move that five thousand additional copies of the Mr. DAWES moved to reconsider the vote by which the order was report be printed. · · made; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the Tho PRESIDENT pro tcrnpore. That motion will be referred to the table. · Committee on Printiug. The latter motio!l wa~ agreed to. 4346 CONGRES-SIONAL· RECORb.
Mr. GARFIELD. I ask that to-mo.rrow- evening a session be held (H. R. No. 3524) granting a pension to Mrs. Eliza B. Dye1·, widow of for the purpose of considering reports ;from the Committee ou Appro the late Brevet .Major-G~neml . Alexander B. Dyer; which was rea-d a priations, with. the same order iu regard to the Spea.ker declaring a first and second time, referred to the Committee on Invalid Pensions, recess at half past four o'clock. and ordered to be printed. No objection wa-s made, and it was so ordererl. LAND CLAUIS IN MISSOURI. ADDITIONAL LAND DISTRICT IN COLORADO. Mr. BUCIU\TER, by unanimous con ent, introduced a bill (H. R. No. Mr. PHILLIPS. I ask unanimous consent to report back from the 3[)25) to confirm certain laml claim in the State of Missouri; whieh ·Committee on the Public Lancls, for consideration at this time, House was read a firsp and second time, referred to the Committee on Pri bill No. 1507, with amendment , to create an adclitionalland clistrict vate Land Claims, and ordered to be printed, in the Territory of Colo:ra-do. It is recommended by the General Land PUBLIC SALE OF PL~E TIMBER. Office. .Mr. CLTilER, by unanimous con ent, submitted the following reso The bill as proposed to be amended was read, as follows: lution; which was read, considered, and agreed to : Be it eRacted, &c., That all that part of t-he Territory of Colorado commencing at a. That the Secretary of the Interior be directed: to report to this House point on-the south boundary line of Colorado Territory, between ranges G9 and 70 Resolved, we..'lt oft he 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4347 thing for the widow of this. arctic explorer, whose history in connec and read a third time; and being engrossed, it was accordingly read tion with these explorations is so familiar to members of the House. the third time, and passed. . Mrs. Hall is left in very destit.nte circumstances, with two children Mr. SCOFIELD moved to reconsider the vote by wl1ich tlie bm was dependeut upon her. We propose to pay her the balance of her hus pas ed; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the band's pay down to the time when the officers and crew of the Polaris table. were disoha.rged and also to buy these papers, if she chooses to sell The latter motion was agreed to. , , them for $15,000. The arctic explorer, Dr. Kane, made, I think, some. COURTS Df UTAH. $70,000 .Qr $75,000 from his ~ccounts of bis explorations. The amount proposed to be paid for the papers of Captain Hall is supposed to be Mr. POLAND. I intended to proceed with the Utah bill this morn moderate, and the purchase is recommended by literary people who · ing, which is the regular order, but as the gentleman from Tennessee, have bad access to the papers. [l\fr. MAYNARD,] chairm:m of the Committee on Ba.nking and Cur The bill, which was read, provides in· the first section tha,t the Sec rency, gave notice yesterday he would endeavor to displace the reg reta-ry of the Navy be authorized and directed to allow and settle the ular order to take up the ~urrency bill, I now desire to ask, Mr. salary of Charles F. Hall, late in command of the Polaris ex1Jedition, Speaker, if I yield to the gentleman from Tennessee for that pu.rpose, to December :31, 1873, and pay the balance to. his widow, Mercy Ann whether the Uta b bill will lose its place Y Hall. The second section provides that the Secretary of ,the Navy be The SPEAKER. It will not lose it~ pla.ce, but will have to ~ive way authorized to purchase from t.he said Mercy Ann Hall tbemanuscripts to a vote on the Army bill, which is not to take up any tnne, and of said Charles F. Hall relative to his several voyages and explora then this bill will be the regular order. tions in the north seas at a price not exceeding $15,000, aud in case CURRF.NCY AND FREE BANKING. of purchase, to deposit the same with the officers of the Smithsonian Mr. MAYNARD. I am directed by the Committee on Banking and Institution for safe-keeping, examination, a.nd report to Congress. Cmrency to report the amendments of the Senate to House uillNo. The third section provides that the sum of $16,936, or so much tbereof 1572, to amend the several acts providing a national currency and to as may be necessary, be appropriated to carry ou~ the provisions of establish free banking, and for other purposes, mt.h a substitute. the act. · . Mr. HOLMAN. The substitute, I understand, is a substitute for The SPEAKER. The question recurs on the motion to reconsider the whole bill. - the vote by which this bill was referred to the Committee of the Whole The SPEAKER. It is. on the Private Calenda,r. Mr. HOLMAN. The question will recur first on the substitute from The motion was agreed to; and the bill was brought before the the Committee on Banking and Currency. Honse. · The SPEAKER. It will. Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. I am notdisposed to make the point The Clerk .read the substitute, as follows: of order against this uill that it calls for &n appropriation of money, That the act entitled "An act to vrovide It national currency securerl. by a pleClt):e but I ask the attention of the Honse to it. The bill really propos~s of U nitecl States bonds and to provide for the circulation anrl red.emption thereof,'' to give a gratuity of $15,000 to Mrs. Hall, although it does it under approved J nne 3, 1864, shall be hereafter 1.--nown as ·• the national-bank act." the eli guise of payiug her that. sum for the manuscripts of the ]ate SEc. 2. That section 31 of the "national-bank act" be so ame.nded that the sev eral a sociations therein provided for shall not hereafter be required to keep on Captain Hall. I am not aware of any precedent for this. Captain band any amount of money whatever by reason of the amount of their respecti~e Hall was not in the service of the Government; and his expedition circulations; but the moneys required by said section to be kept at all times on was set on foot and aided by the Government at his request and by hand shall be deternrined by the amoun't of deposits in all respects as provided the importunity of pe:rsons outside of the Government. It was not for in the said section. SEc. 3. That section 22 of the said act, and the several amendments thereto, so . iutended to subserve, nor bas it subserved, any pm-pose forwhich the fur as they restrict the amount of notes for circulation under said acts, be, and the Government was instituted. The expedition was organized wholly same are hereby,repealed ; and the proviso in the first section of the act approved in the interest of science and in the hunt for the northwesp passa&'e. July 12, 1870, entitled "An actt() proviue for the rP.demption of the3 per cent. tempo I have alwavs doubted whether it was kindness to enthusiasts liJie rary-loan certificates,andforanincrease ofnational-banknot~." prohibiting to banks hereafter or~a.nized a circulation over 500,000; and the prov'iRo in the third Rect.iun Captain Hail or was really any aid to science to encourage these of ~Said act lliniting the circulation of banks authorized to issue notes redeemable arctic explorations ; and the disastrous 1·esults of this last att.empt in gold coin to 1,000,000; and section 6 of sairl act, relating t() the redistJ.ibution of will perhaps ue cheaply bought if it discourages any further ventures 25,000,000 of circulatin.,. notes, be, and the same are hereby, repealed; tba.t every association hereafter organized shall be subject to, and be governed by, the rules, of that sort. . re trictions, and limitations, and possess the rights, privileges, and fran chi es now Captain Hall was in no sense in the service of the Government ex or hereafter to be presCI·ibed by law as to national banking associations, with the cept at his own solicitation, and not in auy way which, as I am aware, same power to amend alter, and repeal provided by "tl1e national - b~~ act." has hitherto established an equity in favor of his widow.or children. Stw. 4. 'That every association organized, or to be organiz.ed, under the provisions of the said act, and of the several acts in amenilment thereof, shall at aJl times keep In fact, the surviving widow of a.ny civil employe of the Government and have on depo it in the Treasury of the United States, in lawful money of tha has the same claims to consideration as has 1\Irs. Hall. It is true that United States, a sum equal to 5 per cent. of its circulation, to be held and used for t.his is not a g_ratuit.y in terms, but it is in fact, as there is no reason the redemption of such circulation; and when the circulating notes of any such to suppose that the manuscripts of Captain Hall are worth the sum associations, assorted or unassorted, shall be presented for redemption, in sums of $1,000, oranv multiple thereof, to theTreasurerofthe United States, thesameshallbe proposed in the bill; for if they are worth that sum any publisher redemed in 'united States notes. .All notes so redeemed shall be charged by the Treas would be glad to purchase them, and the widow would not need this urer of tlie United States to the respective associations issuing the same, and he shall measure of relief. Dr. Kane and his family realized $75,000 from his notify them severally on the first day of ea~h month, or oft,ener, at his discretion, of book, but the GovernmE:lnt coutributed nothing to their relief. the amount of such redemptions; whereupon each association so notified shall forth with deposit with the Treasurer of the United States a sum in United States notes I know, however, that such ~ bill as this is sure to pass, and I have equal to the amount of its circulating notes so redeemed. And all notes of national only sought the floor to put on record my views upon it, rather than banks worn, defacsd, mutilat-ed, or otherwise unfit for circulation shall, when re to take t.ime to get a record by yeas and nays. ceived by any assistant treasurer or at any designated depositm-y of the United If Congress is ready to establish the principle of giving these gratu States, be forwarded to the Trea urer of the United States for redemption as pro vided herein. And when such redemptions have been so reimbursed, the circulat ities to every person who e application appeals to our sympathies, ing 11 otes so redeemed shall be forwarded to the respective associations by whom they this case is asgoodasanywith which to begin that kind of legislation. were issued ; but if such notes are worn, mutilated, defaced, or rendered otherwise Mrs. Hall is a worthy as any person who will ever apply for ·relief, unfit for use, they shall be forwarded to the Comptroller of the Currency and and every one's sympathies re pond to her appeal. I can but look destroyed and replaced as now provided by law: Provided, That each of said asso ciations shall reimblll'Se to the Treasury the charges for transportation, and tbe upon it, howeYer, as a precedent of dangerous example, and likely to costs for :IS!JOrting such notes; and the associations hereafter organized shall also be quoted hereafter in support of much more questionable gra~ui- . severally reimburse to the Trea-sury the cost of engraving such plates as shall be ties. orderecl by each association respectively; and the amount assessed upon each asso SCOFIELD. Captain Hall was appointed by the President of ciation shall, be in proportion to the circulation redeemed, and be charged to the Mr. fund on deposit witli the Treasurer. the United States to eom·mand this polar expedition under a law of SEc. 5. That any association organized under this act, or any of the acts of which Congress which authorized bini to appoint some suitable person for this ia an amendment, desiring to withdraw its circulating notes, in whole or in that purpose. Two former expeditious, the manuscripts relating to part, may, upon the deposit of lawful money with the Treasurer of the United St.ates in sum of not leas than 9,000, take up the bonds which said association has which we propo e to buy, were undertakeu by private individuals. on deposit with the Treasurer for the security of such circulating notes; which :Mr. Grinnell was the principal patron. Those papers, which are bonds shall be assigned to the bank in the manner specified in the nineteenth sec· voluminous, are said by Professor Henry, by Dr. Parker, a,nd other tion of the "natio:rihl-bank act;" and the outstanding notes of said association, to men of leaming ca.pable of judoing who have examined thmn, to be an amount equal to the legal-tender notes deposited, shall be redeemerl. at the Treasury of the United States and destroyed as now provided by law: Provided · of considera.ule value. I know ih:at Dr. Kane wrote a popular book, That the amount of the bonds on deposit for circulation shall not be reduced the sale of ~hich produced a la.rge sum of money. That I take to be below $30,000. , ' · , evidence the e manuscripts are equally valuable. The widow of SEC. 6. That the Comptroller of the Currency shall, under such rules and regula Captain Hall, unlike Dr. Kane, is unable to write a book and to put tions as the Secret.ary of the Treasury may prescribe, cause the charter nnmbers of the association to be printed upon all national-bank notes which m:~oy be hereafter it before t.he world, but is willing to dispose of these _manuscripts issued by him. in order, as she is in g_reat need, to realize something jn that way for SEc. 7. That the..entire amount of United States notes outstanding and in circula the support of herself and children; and I can see no reason why tion at any one time shall not exceed the sum of$382,000,000; and within thirty clays anybody should object to the pa sage of this bill. I therefore demand aftor circUlating notes to the amOlmt of $1,'000, 000 shall, from time to time, be Issued to national ban king associations under this act, in excess of the highest outstand the previous question. ing volume thereof at any time prior to such issue, it shall be the duty of the Secre 1\fr. GARFJ:ELD. I hope the bill will pass. . tary of the 'l'reasury to retire an amount of United States notes equal to 40 per Mr. MYERS. I hope there will be no objection. The committee cent. of the circulating notes so issued, which shall be in reduction of the maxi are unanimously in favor of the bill. mum amount of $382,000,000 fixed by thi"' section; and such reduction shall con tinue until the maximum aiDDunt of the United Sta.tes notes outstanding shall be The previous question was seconded and the main question ordered; 300,000,000; anrl tha United States notes so retired shall be canceled and carried and under the operation thereof the bill was ordered to be engrossed to tho accoUllt of the sinking funtl provided for by the second clause of section 5 of 4·:348 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. MAY 28, the act. approved on the 25th of February, 1 62, entitled " .A.n act to authorize tho Clayton. Clement-s, Clymer, Cox, Creamer, Crooker, Davis, Elliott, Frye, Gunokcl is ue of United States notes, nntl for the reuemption and funding thereof, and for RobertS. ~~lo , Bon.jaminW.H~ Her~ey ,GeorueF.Hoar.Howe,Hynes , J ewe~ ftmding the floating debt of the Umtell States," and shall constitute a portion of Kasson, K.Illm~er. Lamar. Lam1son, Lew1s, Lownaes, Magee, Alexander S. :t:cDill saicl sinking fund. · Mo.J1lnkin, McLean, Mills, Moore, Negley O'Brien, Ho ea W. Parker, Parsons' SEC. 8. That on and after t-he 1st da:v of Jnlv, 1878, any holder of United States Pelham, Punnau, William R. Robert.s, Ross, Milton Sayler John G. Schumaker' notes to the amount of fifty dollars, or' any multiple thereof, may present them for Sessions, Smart. A. Herr Smith, George L. Smith, J. Ambier Smith. William A: pavment at the office of the Treasurer of the United States. or at tho ofiice of the Smith, Stephens, Storm, Stowell, Strawbridge, Charles :R. Thoma , Todd Waldron a sistant tre.'\Surer at the city of New York; and thorcupon be shall be entitled to Wheeler, 'Vilshire, Wood, and Pierce M. B. Young-60. ' ' receive, a.t h~s option;.from the Secretary of the Trea~ury, in exchange of said notes, an equal amount. of either class of t-he coupon or register ~ rl bonrls of the Sq the substitute was not agreed to. During the roll-call the fol- United States provided for in the first. ection of the act appro>ed on the 14th day lowing anuouncements were macle : . of July, 1870, entitled ''.A.n act to aut-horize the refnndin~ of the national debt-, ' Mr. BANNING. .My colleague, Mr. SAYLER, is still confined to his and tho act amendatory thereof, approved the 20th Mr. WILSON, of Maryland. My colleague, Mr. O'BRIE.t~, is de whom I am paired, would, if present, vote "ay," while I should vote tltined in hi room by indisposition; if here he would voto "no." "no." Mr. MAYNARD. I move that a committee of conference be re Ir. SPEER. 1\Iy colleague, Mr. STORM, who is calied home by sick quested upon the disagreeing votes of the two Houses upon this bill. ness, would, if present, vote "no." My colleague, Mr. MAGEE, who is Mr. RANDALL.• I ask for the reading of the 1;ule governing the ·absent by order of the House attending the burial ,of 1\fr. Mellish, appointment of committees of conference. would, if present, vote "no." - The SPEAKER. There is no rule governing the appoiritment of The result of the vote was announced as above stated. such committees. · 1\Ir.l\IAYNA.RD ·moved to reconsider the vote just taken; and also Mr. RANDALL. 'Vhat is the custom f moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. . · The SPEAKER. The Clerk will read from the Digest upon that The latter motion was agreed to. subject. Some time subsequently The Clerk read as follows: The SPEAKER said: The Chair desires to ann01mce the conferees The usual course of proceeding previous to a conference is for one Honse to dis on the part of the House upon the disagreeing votes of the two agree to the other's amendment, and for the amending House to insist upon ita Houses upon the banking and currency bill. The votes on which amm:Idment and ask a conference. * * * " * the selection of conferees is bMed are the original votes given It is on the occasion of amendments between the Houses that conferences aro April14 on the bill of the House, and the vote given to-day by which usually asked; but they may be asked in all cases of difference of opinion between the two Houses on matt-ers depending between them.-Manual. the Senate amendment was disagreed to. Upon those votes the fol lowing gentlemen represent the action of the Honse: ~fr. AfA YNARD of The SPEAKER. It is wholly a matter of discretion. Tennessee, Mr. FARWELL of Illinois, and 1\lr. CLYMER of Pennsylvania. Mr. RANDALL. No, sir, so far as my memory goes-- EVENING SESSION FOR BUSTh'ESS OF JUDICIARY COMMITI'EE. The SPEAKER. Ah, the majority of conferences m-e asked at this stage of the proceedings. For instance, on all the appropriation bills 1\Ir. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I ask unanimous consent that conferences are asked at this stage. the House hold a session on Monday evening next, commencing at Mr. MAYNARD. It is very seldom that an amendment goes ba~k seven and a half o'clock, for the COili$ideration of reports from the to be reacted upon. Committee on the Judiciary. The SPEAKER. The matter is one wholly of discretion; one for Mr. RANDALL. I object. the majority of the House to determine, and not for any rnle. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts, subsequently said: I understand Mr. SPEER. Is it in order to ask for the yeas and nays upon re that the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RANDALL], withdraws questing a conference f his objection. The SPEAKER. It is; that is a matter to be decided by the ma Mr. RANDALL. I do so with the understanding that the civil jority. rights bill is not to be brought up at the proposed evenin~ session. Mr. SPEER. ·Then I ask for the yeas and nays. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Neither that nor the Geneva The SPEAKER. The attitude of this question is this: The Honse award bill. stands insisting upon the original currency bill passed by it, and dis The SPEAKER. With that understanding the order will be made, a~reeing to the amendment proposed by the Sena.to. On this state of if there be no objection. disagreement the gentleman from Tennessee [Mr. MAYNARD] asks Mr. WILLARD, of Vermont. This order will not obviate any point that the subject may be referred to a committee of conference. On of order to which any bill reported on that evening may be liable! • that que tion the gentleman from Pennsylvania [1\fr. SPEER] asks The SPEAKER. Of course not. for the yeas and nays. The preyions question is now exhausted. There being no objection, the order was accordingly ma-de. M.r. RAND ALL. I move to reconsider the various votes which have PERSONAL EXPLANATION. been taken this morning upon this subject, and to lay the motion to reconsider on the table. - Mr. KELLOGG. I ask unanimous consent to make a personal ex- The latter motion was agreed to. planation. The SPEAKER. For how longf 1\!r . .MAYNARD. I call for the previout~ question upon the request ·for a committee of conference. Mr. KELLOGG. Two minutes. The SPEAKER. The previous question is rarely ever called, for There being no objection, leave was granted. such a request is never debated: Mr. KELLOGG. This is the first time I have ever risen to make a 1\fr. MAYNARD. Then I withdraw the call. personal explanation since I ha,ve been a member of Congress, and I The SPEAKER. The question is upon ordering the yeas and nays. presume it may be the last, in relation to anything appearing in The yeas and nays were ordered ; there being ayes 36, noes not regard to me in a newspaper. I find in theASsociatf¥l Press dispatch counted. of yesterday in theNew York Evening Express a statement of a speech The question was taken; and there were-yeas 133, nays 82, not which is attributed to me, and which I shall ask the Clerk to read. I will state that I do not rise now to make any explana,tion on my voting 74; as follows: 1 own account; for I prefer generally to let these things pass by with .YEAS-Messrs. Albright, Arthur, Averill, Barber, Barrere, Barry, Begole, Bell, out calling to them the attention of the House. I was called "ltir. B1ory, Bland, .Bowen, Bradley, Brown, Bundy, Burchard, Burleigh, Cannon, Cason, Cessna., Amos Clark, jr., John B. CL'trk, jr., Clinton L. Cobb Stephen A. Cobb, Kellogg, of Louisiana," in one of the lea-ding papers of New York for Coburn, Conger, Corwin, Cotton, Crittendenl..-.~rounse, Crutchfield, Curtis, Danford, one whole session; and I never made any objection to that even, ·and Darra.ll, Donnan, Duell, Dunnell, Farwell, ..l!ield, Fort, Foster, Freeman, Hagans, never rose to a personal explanation, though a man might prefer to Harmer, Henry R. Harris, Harrison, Hatcher, Hathorn, Havens, John B. Hawley, have his own State recognized. But on behalf of my friend from Hay, Gerry \V. Hazelton, John W. Hazelton, Hodges., Holman, Houghton, Howe, Hubbell, Hunter, Hunton, Hurlbut, Hyde, Hynes, .fewett, Kasson, Lamison, Lam Pennsylvania, [Mr. CLniER,] whose thunder I do not wish and he port, Lansing, Lawrence, Leach, LoJland, Lowe, Lynch, Martin, Maynard, McCrary, do~s not ,.,i.sh any republican to steal, and certainly not to steal it Alexander S. McDill, James W. McDill, McKee, McNulta., Merriam, Monroe, myself, on his account solely I rise for this explanation. I ask the Myers, Niles1 Nunn, Orr, Orth, Packard, Packer, Page, Isaac C. Parker, Pelham, Clerk to read the extract I send to the desk. It is the Associated Phillips, James H. Platt, jr.-h..Thomas C. Platt, Rainey, Ransier, Rapier, Ray, Richmond Robbins, James w. Robinson, Sawyer, Henry B. Sayler, Isaac W. Press dispatch, mixed up probably after it left here, as it appears this Scudder, Sencr, Shank~ Sheldon, Sherwood, Lazarus 1). Shoemaker, J. Ambler morning in the New York Evening Express. Smith, John Q. Smit-h, ;::;nyder, Sprague, Stanard, St. John, Strait, Taylor, Thorn The Clerk read as follows: · burgh, Tyner, Wallace WalL'!, Jasper D. Ward, MarcusL.Ward, Wells, Whitehead Wilber, Gcor~e Willard, Charles G. Williams, William Williams, William B. Wil THE MOJE.TY LAW. liams, James Wilson, JeremiahM. Wilson, and Woodworth-133. Mr. Kl!:LLOGG (Republican, Connecticut,) presumed that few members, if any, NAYs-Messrs. Adams, Albert, Archer, Ashe, Atkins, Barnum, Bass, Beck, would vote asamst the repeal of the law and the annulment of the contra.ct. . Bl01mt, Bright, Bromberg, l3uckner, Bufiinton, Benjamin F. Butler, Cain, Cald· He believoo that the charges would have been sustained. It was an astoundinu welll pomin17o, Cook, Crooke, Crossland, Dawes, DeWitt, Durham, Eames, Eldred ere, thing that the President had not yielded to pu~tlic opinion and removed tbes~ GiU.uings, Glover, Eugene Hale, Hamilton, Joseph R. Hawley, Hendee, Herefo~ .offimals, instead of acting in defiance and disregard of it. It was only within a Herndon, E. R.ockwoodHoar, Hooper, Hoskins, Kelley, Kellogg, Kendall, KnaJ?.P.; day or two that the President bad removed a. District official for attempting to tell Lawson, Luttrell, Marshall, MacDougall, Milliken, Morrison,~:re al, Niblack O'Nem; the truth. This qRestion, he said, 'ivonld not be finally determined here. It won1d Pendleton, Perry, Phelps, Pierce, Pik.o, Poland, Potter, R:mclall, R.ead, Rlce, Ellis go elsewhere, and to that other tribunal, ifjustil}ewerenot obtained here, he would H. Roberts, James C. Robinson, John G. Schumaker, Scofield, Henrv J. Scudder go with confiden~. · Sloan, Small, H. Boardman Smith, Southard, Speer, Stark-weather, Stone Swann' Town end, Tremain, Vance, Whitehouse, Whitthorne, Charles W. Willard, Willie: Mr. KELLOGG. I only wish to say that the speech there reported ·wolfe, Woodford, and John D. Young-82. · is that of my friend from Pennsylvania, [Mr. CLYMER,] not mine. NOT V01.'ING-Messrs. Banning, Berry, Burrows, R.{)derick R. Butler, Free Mr. RANDALL, (to Mr. KELLoGG.) If it were yours, it would be man Olar~e, Clayton, Clements, Clymer, Cox, Creamer, Crocker, Davis, Dobbins, the best speech you ever made. Edeu, Elliott, .Frye, Garfield, Gooch, Gunckel, Robert S. Hale, Hancock., Benjamin ·w. Harris, John T. Harris, Hersey, George F. Hoar, Killinger, Lamar, Lewis · Mr. CLYMER. I so rarely trespass upon the indulgence of the Loughri~ge, ~owndes, .Magee, McJunkin, McLean, Mills, Mitcnell, Moore, Morey: Honse that I am not unwilling to claim the paternity at least of the Nogtoy, l'!lesnuth, O'Brum, Eosea W. Parker, Parsons, Pratt, Pnrman William R. little I ever do say here. With regard to this matter I should have Roberts, Ross, Rusk, Milton Sayler, Sessions, Sheats, Sloss, Smart, A. 'Herr ::)mith if KEL Georgo L. Smith William. A. Smith, Standiford, Stephens, Storm, Stowell, Straw: felt very much worse what my friend from Connecticut (1\fr. bridge, Sypher, Charles R. Thomlils, Christopher Y. 'fhomas, Todd, Waddell, Wal LOGG] said ha PRESERV.ATION OF BALLOTS. and the Secretn.ry of War i hereby authorized to appoint, from the enlisted men of thQArmy, or canso to be enlisted, as many hosJ!ital st.ewards as the ervice may :Mr. TREUAIN, by unaniqwus consent, from the Committee on the require to be permanently attached to fue Meilical Department, under uch regu Judiciary, reported back a biU (~. R. No. ~ 979) to preserve ballots lations ~s tho Secretary of War may prescribe. Aml the numbor of .co?traut SUI'· cast at, and all papers connected w1th~ electiOns held for Rep~esenta geons shall be limited roseventr-fiveon or before the 1st da.y of January, m the year ' 1875 · and thereafter no more than that number shall be emyloyed. - tives or Delegates to Congress, aml for other purposes; whwh was SEc. 13. That the Pay Department of the Army !:!hall Mreafter consist of one ordered to be printed and recommitted. Paymaster-General, \vith the rank, pay, anu emoluments of a C?lonel; one ::u il:!t REDUCTION OF THE .ARl\fY. ant paymaster-'· eneral, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of a lieutenant-colonel; two deputy pa.fmasters-g;eneral, with the rank, pay, and eruolum~nt-~ of majo~; Mr. RA.t\TDALL. I call for the regular order. · and thirty paymasters, With tho rank, pay, and emoluments of maJors. Mr. COBURN. In pursuance of notice already given. and of le~v:e SEc. 14. '.rhat from and after the 1st day of July, 1874, all muster and pay rolls, when made out shall be- forwarded to the paymaster of the department for which obtained from the House, I report back from tho Comn11ttee on Mili such muster and pay rolls are m!Hle out., and the said paymaster shall make out drafts, tary .Affairs tb,e bill (H. R. ~ o. 2546) providing for the gradual reduc clrawn on tho 'frea ury of the United !:;tates;for the amount due to each person tion of the .Army of the Umted States. · rospectively whose name shall -appear on said muster and pay rolls; and e..'tch of st.itl The bill was read, as follows: drafts shali be mauo .I!ayable to the person who shall be enti.tled tQ receive uch amount, And the sruu paymaster shall immediatel:y senu all such drafts, together Be it 1macted by the Se-nate and HoTJBe o.f Representativ.es of the U1~ited Statu of with the aforesaid muster and ·pay rolls, to the officer by whom such must£r and America in Congress as11embled, That in the cavalry, artillery, anu .rn~antry regl· pay rolls weremade out; and the said officer shall deliver such drafts severally to ments of the A.rmy of the United States there shall be no now commiS 'IOn, no pro the persons who shall be enti~led 'to receive. ~ern, and who shall have sign~(l t~e motion nor any enlistment until the number o~ regiments of cavalry shall be re proper pay-r~l1; and,, a~ any trme after rec~1vmg such .draft, the payee, at h1s dis· duced to nine; the number of regiments of artillery to four.; and the number of cretion, maymdorse It.m !Jle presence of. h1s commanding officer, who shall a.tte;St r e ... irnents of infantry to twenty. Aml the Secretary of W~r lB hereby ilir~cted to such indorsement by his s1gnature: Provuled, That the Secreta!y of War may, m re~uce, by consolidation, the present numbers of these. regiments! respectively, tQ his discretion, in cases where troops are located at rernoto pornts, or where pay· the number bereinueforo st..'l.ted. as rapidly a.-J th~ reqmr~rnents of the public serv mcnts as hereinbefore provided would work hardship ro the men, ilirect payment ice and the reduction of tbe number of officers will permit. in currency, as heretofore. SEC. 2. That the numoer of enlist~d men in the Army of the United States shall SEC. 15. 'That the Ordnance Department shall consist of one Chief of Ordnance, be reduced on or before theist day of .January, 1875, to the number of twenty-five with the rank, pay, and e~oluments of a b?gad!-er-general; ~hree colonels, fotlr thonsancl uien · and this number shall not be increased except by law. lieutenant-colon.els, ten rna.Jor , fifteen captarns, suteen fir t lieuten~nts, and ten SEC. :1. That' the President of the United States .b~, and he ~s hereby, authorized, second lieutenants, with the same pay and emoluments as now proVJded by law. . at his di cretion, to discharge honorably, from mihtary sel'VICe, all Army officers And as vacancies occur in the grade of first lieutenant no appointment to fill the who may apply for a. ilischar~e on or ~e~ore the l~t clay of January !!ext; and s!lcb same shall be made until the number shall be reduced to ten; anu thereafter the officers, so discharged under the provts1ons of thi ~ act, shall be en!Jtl~d to rece1ve, number of permanent officers in said grade shall conform to aid reunced number; in addition to the pay and allowances due them at the date of theiT discharge, one and the remainder six in number, shall be filleu by detail from the officers of tlJe year's pay and allowances. line of the Army; ~cl as vacancies shall occur in the grade o~ seconu lieutenant no SEC. 4. That the grade of re!!imental adjutant and q'!lartermaster and th~ grade permanent appointment shall be made to fill -the ame until the number shall be of company wagone.r are hereby abolishe~ ; and tl1e li eute~ts now holdmg the ntirely reduced; and thereafter the same, as fur as sh!l'll be requir~ by the oxigen· offices of regimental adjutant and quarttirma..'lter may be n:ssHmed, for duty, ~o cies of the service, shall be filletl by detail from the officers of tbe lrno of tho Arm:y: : companies in their regiments, and shall ipl the fi~t vacanmes tha~ shall ?CCur m P.rovided, That no new appointment of ordnance store-keeper shall be made until their respective grades therern; and nothing herem shall effect thOll' relative rank otherwise provided by law. ,- with other lieutenants of their grade. SEC. 1a. That whenever a vacancy shall occur in any department or corps of the SEC. 5. That each regiment of cavalry shall have two majors, and the present staff which is to be filled bv detail, it shall be the duty of the Secretary.of War to number shall be reduced as vacancies occur; .and no appointments shall be made to fill the same from the officers of the line of the Army of the same or the next lower fill the same until the number of such majors shall be.reul?-ced to eighteen; and grade, for a period not to exceed four 'years with the same officer. And be ~l~all that number thenceforward shall be the total number of ma:Jors of cavalry; and appoint a bo:ITU. of not less than five officers, three of whom ball be of the lino • that each re"irnent of artillery shall have two majors ; and the present number and two of the staff, to conduct competitive examinations of all officers who may shall be redu~d as vacancies occur ; and no uew apJ>ointrnent shall be made to fill be applicants or may be recommended to be detailed oo fill such Yacancies. the same until the number of such majors shall be reduced to eight; and that num And the.Secretary of War shall detail those having tl!e most favor:tble recommenda ber thenceforward shall be the total number of majors of artillery. tions of aid board. anu not more than five officers from one reg1rnent: hall be so SEC. 6. That the number of aids of the General of the A.rmy shall not berea~ter detailed at one time. And at the end of four years, any officer so detailed ma.v be exceed three; the number of aids of the Lieutenant-G ~n~l and of the seveml maJor transfeiTed to other staff duties for another teJ'lll of four :veru·s, at the end of which generals shall not oxceecl two for oa{}h; anu each bngadier-general shall have one time he shall be returned to hi duties with his regiment 1mle s he shaH be aid. The rank, pay, and emoluments of the aids herein provided for shall be the appointed permanently, to fill. a vacancy in the staff. And no office~ shall be same a officers of cavalry of the same grade, and no more. detailed or appointeu to serve many department or corps of the staff until he shall SEC. 7. That the Adjutant-General's Department of the Army sball h~re~ter have served at least four years in the field with the troops if above the grade of consist of one Adjutant-General, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of a bng-adier second lieutenant, and if a second lieutenant at least two years upon such duty gen ral; one a~s~stant adj~tant-p;oneral, w!-th tho rank, pay, and emoluments of a consecutively. And no offic e ~ .shall serve in any one de~artment or corps of the oolonel; one a 1stant adJutant-general, ~1th the rank, pa:y:, and emoluments of a staff by detail for a lon 1874. ·coNGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4351 ' work of attempting to reduce the Army have a spirit of hostility to eral, is very much greater in a single year than five thousand men, ward the Army. I am here now to disavow on the part of the com and there will be no necessity of transferring men from one regiment mittee and every person connected with this matter here any such to another. Over seven thousand will be mustered out tb.is year. disposition of hostility. On the contrary, nothing but profound re But the bill provides t.hat the officers may be consolidated or trans spect and honor so far as the ,Army is entitled to it is accorded to it ferred to other regiments and put on duty, and after' this is done still not only by the committee but by all persons who have taken an in a large number will be left without any duties what~ver to perform. terest in reducing it. The object now is a more economical manage The next provision of importance in the bill relates to regimental ment of the Government. The object is to cut down expenses us far adjutants and quartermasters. The testimony given before the com as possible; and in every branch of the Government, whether in the mittee was to the effect that these officers were extra, and I mean by Army, Navy, or civil service, to dispense with all officers or employes the word extra that they are performing duties that might be per who can be dispensed with. It has occnrred to the House, therefore, formed by other lieutenants of the line; and the committee have that there could be a considerable reduction not only in the civil but thou~ht it best, therefore, to report this fourth section, providing that in the military service as well. the <1uties shall be performed in that way, and that these officers Some time since, in 1866, the size of the Army was much greater than shall go out of this branch of the service. The testimony of some it is now. It was then composed of fifty-one thousand men, in five of the best officers of the Army was to the effect that these officers regiments of artillery, twelve regiment8 of cavalry, and forty-five were not needed, and the Secretary of War has twice, I believe, recom regiments of infantry. In 1870, four years after that, the Army was mended this provision. Quite a large saving will take pl/:).ce from reduced to thirty thousand men, which is the present number, with abolishing these offices. twenty-five regiments of infantry, five regiments of artillery, and ten Th~ next important provision ~s in relation to majors. The regi regiments of cavalry. Now, after the expiration of four years more, ments of cavalry and artillery have each three majors, and it is the a similar reduction is proposed to be made. The reduction from 1866 opinion of many officers and of many men who have knowleclge on • to 1870 was twenty-one thousand, .and we now simply propose are the subject that even one major would be enough, especially in time . duction of five thousand, with. a proper proportion of officers. My of peace, for every cavalry and artiller)Tregiment, just as the infantry own judgment is that the reduction is not great enough. I think we regiments hav_e at present only one major. The office, at be t, is not could get along with a smaller army, and protect the peace and honor a very important one, and it is believed that in time of .peace the of the country as well as with twenty-five thousand men. Out!$lde number of majors in cavalry and artillery regiments might be cut of taking care of the Indian frontier there is very little to be done by clown to one for ea.ch regiment. This will reduce the number of an army. I cannot for my life see what else there is except to pre majors in each cavalry regiment to two, which makes a reduction in serve the skeleton, a,nd to have on hand a corps of officers educated the ten cavalry regiments of ten majors, and in the five infantry regi and trained with abilit.y sufficient to take command in time of danger ments of five majors. and emergency and war. The next provision is in relation to the aids of the General of the It is not a beggarly thing in the present condition of our affairs to Army. They have by law the rank of colonel. The committee sup attempt to save money. Every man feels we must economize, and posed that those officers performed a duty which at best is a very light though the officers proposed to be mustered out of the service-not and pleasant one, and is quite desirable. And they suppo ed they mustered out but to go out gradually-although they may be meri might do with the same pay that they are entitled to in the ordinary torious men, yet·along with everybody else in the country tl;ley must line of service. They ought to be satisfied with their proper rank put up with cessation of promotion and stoppage of advancement and pay in their own commands. for a time. They too must join the throng of those who would save The next reduction is in the department of the Adjutant-General. the nation's credit and purse by a little self-denial-quite as hon There are now in the Adjutant-General's Department sixteen officers. orable ae facing danger and defying hardships. The bill provides for fifteen, of whom eight are to be detailed and the The whole c01mtry is engaged in a work similar. to the one we are others to be permanent. That brings up a point in the discn sion of proposing to do in the Army, and that is to stop promotio11s and to tl;lis bill that is somewhat interesting. / As I said before, quite a large decrease expenses until it is reduced down to the proper standard. number of officers by this reduction will be thrown out of service, Now, this measure of the reduction of officers is not in the nature of some two hundred and fifty or more. It is thought best that there a compulsory muster out or discharge.; but it is expected to be ac should be selected from those officers some who may discharge staff complished by natural causes, by death, by resignation, and the other duties. Certainly out of so large a number a few can be selected who means by which the Army is rid of its officers. There is indeed a pro will perform staff duties of any kind well. The Government must pay vision in the bill that authorizes a board to examine officers, and the those officers whose commands are abolished, and shoulll receive their only compulsory feature in it is this: tha.t worthless .or unfit officers services if they can be secured. They can get them in the st.aff in as may be put out of the service by its action with the sanctfon of the profitable a way as -anywhere else, perhaps more so. , In addition to President. That will apply to but few ca es and will operate in no that there is this consideration, that officers of the line thereby become one as a hardship, because the _officers who will be thus discharged acquainted with staff duties, and with duties of every branch of the are unfit to be in the service. The };!resumption is and the fact is that Army and every import.ant matter connected with it. Not.hing can a vast majority of the officers in the service are good, faithful, efficient, be more valuable to an officer than to become acquainted not only and honorable. men, and those officers will remain until discharged by with the duties of the line but also of the staff. That aC\lUaintance natural causes. fits him at once to take'high command and to occupy important posi Now there is another provision in the bill to the effect that any tions in the Army. The great danger in the Army is this : men be officer who desires to resign can have a year's pay on so doing. That ing confined to a specialty, whether in the line or in the staff, may provision enabled the Army to get rid of a number of officers when it have their minds narrowed and their capacity too mnph confined and was reduced before. With the exception of these two cases there cramped, so that in time of danger they may become less capable of duction is to be entirely from natural causes, auu therefore no officer assuming important responsibility and holding high commands than in the Army and no friend of any officer has a right to complain that if their duties were more varied. · any officer is treated with the least degree of hardship. On the con The Committee on Military Affairs of the House last Congress in trary, their interests have been more tenderly regarded in this bill vestigated the subject of staff organization thoroughly, and made a than generally the friends of reduction thought was necessary. I say report containing the views of many of the most eminent and able offi therefore, Mr. Speaker, that so far from there being any hostility of cers of the Army. This report waspubUshed, and I now call the atten feeling or any desire. to injure anybody in the Army, the sentiment tion of the Honse to some of these opinions showing the feasibility of has been exactly to the contrary; one of kindness and regard for those detailing officers of the line for staff duty. The statements I shall · gentlemen, mimy of who.QJ. have spent the best years of their lives in quote are confirmed by the testimony of many other officers whose the service of their country, who have braved many dangers, who names need not be mentioned at this time. have patiently endored many toils, and who deserve the gratitude I verily believe that it would be good policy to detail at least hal£ of their countrymen for meritorious and noble comluct. of the staff in all branches except those of engineering, medicine, and Now the first reduction contemplated is that of regiments, of or law. :Uy this means the highest degree of training could be brought ganizations; and the first section of the bill provide that there shall about for all of our young officers, and a thorough knowledge of all the be a diminution of five regiments of infantry, one regiment of artil-· essentials for high command imparted to them. lery, and one of cavalry. The number of men in these regiments is General Ord says that the President should be allowed to transfer about five thousand. The number of officers in a cavalry regiment officers of the same rank from the staff to the line, or the reverse, at . is forty-three, in an artillery regiment fifty-six, and in an infantry his option. This would be a check on disbursing officers, would re . regiment thirty-five. The number of, men in a cavalry regiment is sult in the selection of inen better fitted for the places, besides giving one thonsa'!).d and thirteen, in an artillery regiment seven hundred them instruction. and sixty, and in an iflfantr~ regiment six hundred and five. The General Upton says in special corps, like the Engineer or Medical House, taking tnese data, can very readily calculate what the reduc C~rys, officers are unquesti?nably more efficient who are educated, tion in the expense will be. The officers, as I said before, of these trained, and promoted spemally for these services. But in order to regiments remain in the service until they go out by natural causes increase the amount .of staff know ledge in the Army, and· to keep the or are discharged on the report of the board a being worthless. officers of the staff corps acquainted with the wants and requirements Now, that willleave forty-three officers of cavalry, 1ifty-six artillery Of the line, transfers from the staff to the liue, and the reverse, fOT a officers, and one hundred and seventy-five infantry officers without period not exceeding four years, would in the highest degree be bene auy duty to perform. The method next adopted is to consolidate ficial. The duties of the adjutant and inspector generals, quarter these officers and men with the regiments that remain in the service. masters, commissaries, and payma ters are in no degree scientific, and There will not, however, ue much consoliJ.at.ion of men in the service, can be learned by officers detailed from the line. Promotions to the because the reduction of the Army, according to the A.djutant-Gen- grade of first lieutenant in the Ordnance and E:p.gineer Corps sh.ould ,' 4352 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. MAY ·28, be made not from the Military Academy, but by. competitive exami being scientific specialties, require their separation from the ordinary routine of Army duties ~ Do they re'luire eclusion, as it were, from the .Army~ nation from first and second lieutenants who have served. three years Answer. Ithink not; I think on the contrary that all officers oft.he Army, in their in .the line. Cadets who graduated with high honors may become own interel>t, should know what a soltlier can do in ordeL· to know what works of indolent; but three years1 continuous preparation for examination for defense and offense are proper. I asked the question of Fieltl Marshal on Mol tke, promo.tion woul Statement of the amount iti.sbursed at eacl•. agency for paying pensions, nu.nltber of pensioners on the rolls Jnue 30, 1873, nunwer of vouchel'S]Jaill at each ( · agency dttring tlwjuJcal yoor ending June 3U, 1BlJ, with t/wcompcnsation. accming to each ageut ·under acts of Gongre11s. ~ ~~M :.) p . Compensation. ~~£ 0~ Amount dis- '?o~ .. -;a Town and State. S~e? SA bursed. ,.OCJ MAY 14, 1874. . JOSEPH LOCKEY, Acting C01nmissioner of Pensions. But, again, why shall we inPrease the Pay Department if we dimin- The Medical :qepartrneut in 1860 ha.d one hundred and ten, in 1866 ish the Army 1 At present, with thirty thousand men we have fort.y- two hundred and twenty-two, and now has one hundred and fifty two payma-sters. Cannot one payma-ster, with the help of a clerk, five, with one hundred and seventy-tlu:ee contract surgeons in a 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4355 DECEMBER 31, 1860. I have only a word further to say about what I propose to do in the conduct and management of the bill. I desire to c2.ll the previous ~ ~! I ~ § question, and will do so unless some gentleman indicates that he desires to make a speech . i i ~ j i .Mr. ALBRIGHT. I desire to submit a few remarks. Corps. ~ ~ d %' g := Mr. COBURN. I undei'Stood that some members of the committee desired to be heard. ! 1 ~ -~ ~ 1 ~ ] 3 Mr. SPEER. I desire to ask the gentleman from Indiana if his ~8~ ~ ~ (/]~~~ bill provides that when an officer of the Army is detailed to duty in ------·1--- ~ --- ci villife he ceases to hold position in the Army or not Y Adjutant-General's Department...... 1 · 1 4 8 ...... 14 Mr. COBURN. There is nothing in the bill on that subject except Inspoctor·General's Department...... 2 ...... 2 in this: If the gentleman will look at the twentieth section of the Judgo Allvocate...... •..••• .•••••...... •. . • . . 1 ...••...... • •. 1 Si •mal Officer. . • . . . . • • • • • . . . . • . • . . . . • ...... • • . . • . . 1 ...... • ...... 1 bill as reported he will see that where officers are assigned to col Q:fartermaster's Department...... 1 2 2 4 28 7 . • . . . . . 44 leges, they are not detailed but given leave of absence, which gives S"ubsistence Department...... 1 1 2 8 ...... 12 them only the pay of officers on leave of absence. hloilical Department ...... ••...... •.... ·.. 1 ... ·j 30 49 35 .... 115 Mr. SPEER. Does not the gentleman think that the detailing of Pay Department .....••...... ······ · · • · 1 21 25 · • · · · · · • • · · · · · 28 Corps of Engineers...... • • ...... 1 2 4 16 . . • . 12 13 43 officers to civil life and allowing them to retain their positions and Topogmghical Engineers...... 1 1 4 19 .... 10 10 45 pay in the Army a great almseT Ordnance Department . . • • • . . . • . • ...... 1 1 4 17 15 12 9 59 Mr. COBURN. The testimony of the Adjutant-General was to the effect that it was not an advisable system; but whet.her it is an abuse Aggregate ..•..•.•.••...•.••••• - ~ -~- ~ u!O[--w 145T~i-f69 32 369 or not, it is a matter of law; and the committee propose to change the law in that respect, so that when officers are thus detailed they JULY 28, 1866. can ·get the pay only of officers on leave of absence. I will say be fore I yield the floor that unless there be objection I will be glad to Ac\j ntant..General's Department*... • . . 1 2 I 41 a 13 .••.• J.. ·I: ...... 20 Inspector-General's Department* ...... b 4 I 3 ! 2 ..•... 1...... 9 move the previous question this evening. Dureauof MilitaryJustice ...• : •..... 1 1 1····1c10 .••••. 1····I···· .... 12 Mr. HARRIS, of Virginia. I would ask the gentleman whether Chief of staff to GeneraL...... a 1 . . • . . • ...... ·I .. ·I· ...... · 1 this bill restores promotion in the staff of the Army or not t ~i~~?:~~~;~ D~pa~e~·~·-·:::.:::: ·.. i ., e ~ ,.~ iO!. -~ i5 " I' -~«. 'I ' iti t::: :::: 9~ Mr.COBURN. Itdoes,inallbranches; itopensthemalltopromotion. Snbsistence Department*...... 1 2 21 8 16 . ... I...... 29 Mr. RANDALL. Does not the gentleman propose to take up the Medical Department*...... 1 I 1 l /5 60 /70 I 5 r&O · ···~llt222 bill by sections f ~ayDefartm~nt*··;·················· g11' 2 21 60 1 ...... , .... fi5 Mr. COBURN. My disposition would be to consider it by sections, Corps n Engmeers ...... •...... h 1 6 1 12 : 24 30 . . . . ····j····"26 10 109 Ordnance Department•...... • ...... 1 ! 3 1 4 1 10 20 13 16 10 77 but' at pres~nt I cannot say what I shall do in that regard. 1 Mr. RANDALL. My attention ha.s been directed to the retluction Aggregate ....••.•••••.....•...... -9-j28·'42! 20-.! !l8oT34!12"2 ,'-;w 637 in the Adjutant-General's Department, and I shonJd like to have an ' 1 . . I 1 opportunity of amending the section in regard to that department. APRIL 20, 1874. Mr. COBURN. Well, Iwillleaveitan open questionforthepresent. ------:------· ------· Mr. LAWRENCE. Does this bill make any provision for promo- .A.djutant..G~neral's Department...... 1 1 3 all ...... I 16 tion for sn bordinate officers in the Commissary Department f Inspector-General's Department...... b5 1 2 . ••• •• . • .. . . • . . • • . 8 nnreau of .Military Justice...... 1 1 .. . . c8 .. . • ...... 10 Mr. COBURN. It does. Signal Officer . . • ...... • . . . • • • . . . • • . 1 ...... • . . . . • ...... 1 Mr. L.A. WRENCE. I think that is right. Quartermaster's Department...... 1 e5 e8 el4 29 9 .. • . . ••• 66 Mr. COBURN. I now yield the floor. Subsidtonce Department...... 2 2 8 13 . . . . . • ...... 2S :Mr. ALBRIGHT. Mr. Speaker, I .agree with the gentleman who Medical Department...... 1 1 fJ 52 94- 4 ...... 1f>5 Pay Department...... •• .....• ... . g3 . . . 44 ...... ••. , ...... , 47 has jus't addressed the House with regard to the main features of this Corps of Engineers...... 1 6 12 24 30 .. .. 2G 5 104 bill. If it were an original proposition before the House to-day to Ordnance Department...... 1 2 2 8 15 11 11 7 , • 57 1 reduce the Army by organizations, I should feel myself compelled to oppose it for the reasollB for which I opposed it when the Army ap Aggregat-e ...... •....•...... •.... -6- 27 31117llm l-;!137112j489 propriation bill limited the enlistments to twenty-five thousand men. Bnt as yonltave provided for the pa,yment of onlytwenty-fivethousand NOTES.-Amendmn~ts to the act of Jtdy 28, 1866. men, and as the company organizations are already reduced to so * Section 6, act March 3. 1869, placed a bar on all new lljJpointment.<> and all pro motions in the Adjutant-General's, Inspl·ctor-Gcneml's, (.Juartermaster's, Subsist.. small a limit that to reduce them to a less number would make the ence, Medical, and Pay Departments, Corps of Enginet>rs, and Ordnance Deparli companies in all probability unseniceable to a great extent, I do not ment, but l>y subsequent legislation these restrictions have been modified, as will see tl1at there is any alternative left to the House but to agree to the appear helow. reduction of the Army by orgarnzations. a The act of March 3, 1873, :I.Utborized tho appointment of an assistant adjutant· general with tho rank of major. The number of men since the last reduction of the Army to which b Tho act of June 8, 1872, authorized the appointment of an Inspector-General, a cavalry regiment is li,mited amounts to one thousand ancl thirteen, with the rank of colonEl!, provided tlia.t no promotion he ma.ue U.lltil tho numhur of an artillery regiment to seven hundred and forty nine, and an infantry colonels is redueed below four. c The act of April10, 1869, fixed the number of judge-advocates at eight. "re(f'iment to six huntlred and five. Reducing the Army five thousantl d Tl1e act of Apri.l3, 1869, abolished the otlice of chief of stnffto the General. will necessarily. reduce those companies one-sixth, so that if you clitl e Section 13, act July 23, h!66, pi'O\Tidell that as vacancies oocur in 1'!1.o w:a•les of not retluce by organizations a ca.valry company woultl number bnt major aml captain in the Qm1rtennaster's Departrueut no appointment to till tho seventy men, an artillery company but forty-t.hr:ee men, and an in samo shall be made until the number of ruajo1·a shall be rednucxl to twdve anu the number of captains to thirt.v. fantry company but fifty men. There are no company organizations By the act of March 3, 1871, Major James Belrrer, quartermaster, was restorell t~ belonging t,o any army among civilized nations as small as our com service, and by the act of June 3, 1872, two coYonels, five lieutcnanli-colonels, and panies here. Take the German army, for instance, and an infantry throo majors were aulled to the number of officers of said gratles in the Quv.rter company t.bere now numbers, in time of peace, one h1mdred and ma ter's Department, theso being tho grades tho officers so appointed wou1cl have helll bacl the vac.an~es created by tlle act of July 28, 1866, been filled by promoti~n thirty-two men and three officers, and in time of war two htmdrecl according to seiDonty. men and upward. Here you have with the same number of officers f The act of March 12, 1872, authorized the appointment of a Chief Medical Pur an infantry company reduced to forty men. The reduction of the ve.)Ol' with the rank of lieutenant-colonel. Assistant surgeons have the rank, pay, Army baa been and is ono of the evils of legislation in this cmm &c., of lieutenant for tlle first throe years' service, and of capt.ain a-fter three years' service. [Sectionl7, act July 28, 18ti6; section 5, actMc'lrch 2 1867.) All the asl!ist try. We have never hacl a fixed stantlard as to how many men a com ant surgeons now in service have attaiucll the rru.k of captain.1 pany shall consist of. . It ha.a always depended· upon the ca.price of g Tho act of June 4, 1872, authorizell the appoiutment of a. Paymaster-General Congress to determine whether a company should consist of one hun with the rank of colonel, (grade of brigatli~r-general abolished.) dred or of fifty men or of even less tllan that number, and that has h By tho act of June 10, 1872, so much of section 6, act March 3, 1869, as pro hibits new appointments and promotions in the Corps of E~:p.neers wa.'i repealed. no doubt. very much affected the momle and tone of our Army. E. v. TOWNSEND, It is not contended, I imagine, that the same nnmber of regiments Adju.tant-Ge11.eral. ought to be maintained and that these company orga.nizn.tions shoukl WAR DEPARTMENT, ADJUTANT-GE.YERAL's OFFICE, A.pril22, 1874. be still more reuuced, bec:tnse the maintaining of regiments does not It seems to me that out of so many officers a sufficient number of give more mou. According to the figures which I have proparetl upon excellent ones can ue ohtained to fill up not only the permanent po this subject., if you 1·educe the Army as propoi'1ed by this bill yon will sitions of the staff, but all tletails as tlley may be reqnired. save $2,:H~,OOO and you will dispense with two hunclre(l anti seventy We have now an excellent opportunity for the beginning of are four officers. Now it is trno that this will work hardship upon some organization of the staff. 'l'he large number of officers off duty classes of officers. . But as you have already cleterminetl in the Army will amply supply the needs. Those opportunities so loug denietl appropriation bill that you will not give them men to command, why may now I.Je enjoyed by officers of the line to change the old routine of shoulcl you retain them f I ao not like t.he premises, bnt the conclu their service for the more agreeable and less exposed duties of tile staff. sion seems inevitable if the saving of money at this time is the ouly 'l'his bill then provides for a reduction of sev~n regiments, 1iv9 thing to be consideretl. thousand men, beside officers of the line and staff, about. three hun What occa,-; ion to retain them, if you rednce the force they are to dretl in number. It looks to two new features of reorganization: command t l\Iany of these officers may be saved by consoliaating the t.hat of dividing the staff into permanent and detailetl officers, antl regiments. No doubt a grent. many of the young men now in t.he that of paying the troops in part hy '+-<'d,; '+;~ I 'd 01=11:.1) oo ~§ ~d '+;s G)=,;1=1 ..... ~ Chara.ct<~r of the establishment, .,qa Name nnd locality. Officers on duty. p'd-~=~ ::!,9 ~ Total value. '+-<,! .A llegha.ny arsenal, Pittsburgh, Col. R. H. K. Whiteley and Lieut. 30 Mannfactnre of leather-work, artillery S1, 007, 895 oo $2, 064, 589 36 $3, 072, 484 36 14 Pa. 0. E . .Michaelis ammunition and pyrotechny . .Arsenal of clepoai t and repair. Augusta arsenal, .Augusta, Ga. C(}t. R. M. Hill and Lieut. John E. 20 Manufacture of artillery carriages and 242,450 00 187,916 !}9 430,366 99 4 roor. implements: preparation of stores for issue . .A_r~no.l of deposit. Benicia arsenal, Benicia, Cal. .. Maj. J. McAllister, Ca~t. J . .Arnold, 35 Designedasa a,rgo arsenalofconstruction, 514,673 00 2, 064, 858 53 2, 579, 531 53 4.5 and Lieut. J. C. Cli ord. depmlit, and repair for the Pacific coast. Columbus arsenal, Colnmbus, 0. Maj. John McNutt ...... 13 .Arsenal of clopos1t ...... 442,943 58 1, 411, 317 31 1, 854. 260 89 8 Detroitarsenal, Deari.Jornville, Maj. J. W. Todd ...... 8 .Arsenal of depo it ...:-· ...... 142,950 00 132,891 19 275,841 19 2 Mich. Fortress Monroe arsenal, Old Maj. T. G. Baylor, and Capt. F. H. 13 Experimental artillery firing: manufa.c- 102,357 92 890,445 51 992,803 43 152 Point Comfort, Ya. Parker. ture of iron sea-coast carriages. Arsenal of deposit aml repair. Frankford .arsenal, Phil:ldel- Mad. T. J. Treadwell, Lieut. F. H. 30 Manufacture of small-arm ammunition, 713,948 00 2, 505, 538 95 3, 219, 486 95 206 phia, Pa. Phipps, Lieut. Wm. Prince, and artillery ammunition and pyrotechny, . Lieut. M.. L. Poland . anti fabrication of Woodi.Jtiuge gun; ox- sedmentalsmall-arm firing. Arsenal of eposit, Indianapolis arsenal, Indianap- Capt. .A.. R. Buffington.--·---·---· 13 .Arsenal of The Ordnance Department, besides the duties assigned to it by law, under tho Secretary of War, in the manufacture and procurement otherwise of all ordnance and orrlnance stores for tile United Sta.tes, to be h"'lU as reserves for tbe wants of e~:i.sting and probable want of future armies, the providing of armaments and material for searcoast defenses, aml matetial for arming an:l ·quiplling the militia. the control of the Govemment arsenals, al'l!lorics, aml ordnance depot . and all oxparimental duties connectell with Wai' material, is also chargcrl wit 1 the atlmin,it~tration servico in supplying warlike stoi·es for all tho laud forces of t.he United States, l'illlor in time of war or poaco. It is also cuargcd with tllu ruoanting of til~ hoavy arm;tments of our saa-ooast defenses, in which tluty several of the officers of the qe~ldl'truont are now enAa:~ed •'' 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4357 I wish now, and I desire to do it wit.h all kindness, lmt I must do you reduce the pay force to thirty, and you say that the chief of tho it very emphatically, to say that I antagonize the provisions of this Pay Department shall be but a colonel; w bile in the co-ordinate branch hill, so fru- as it relates to the Pay Department. It proposes to recluce of the service you provide for :fifteen paymasters having rank equal the Pay Department to thirty officers, there now being but forty- four, to that of colonels, aud one chief with the rank of commodore. De some of these sick, and the corps at this time closed to promotion. sides, you have in the Navy Department fifteen paymasters who hold There wore sixty officers in that department when the prohi bitiou was rank eqna.l to that of lieutenant-colonel; fifty who hold rank equal introduced in reference to promotions in the staff corps of the Army. to that of major; twenty-three holding rank equal to that of captain, The gentleman from Indiana [M:r. COBUIU~] bases his argument for and twenty-one holding rank equal to that of first lieutenant. _ this reduction mainly upon the idea that the pensioners are paid by Now, ~Ir. Speaker, it would be just as appropriate to pay the men checks, w bich is cheaply done, and therefore the soldiers may be paid engaged in the naval service with checks as to lJa.y those in the Army in the same way. In my ,judgment no more demoralizing feature in tbu.t way; and those in the naval service could perhaps use the coulfl be introduced into the Army than to attempt t ·· pay the men checks to better advantage. This undertaking to save a few dollars by by checks. And why T Because if you pay them by checks, when paying the soldiers with checks is not an act of ,justice. If it is an act they lll'e stationed in the neighborhood of cities and places where of justice to the soldier it ought to besot~ the sailor. There is no sort tbore are banks, you may injure the soldier in two ways; first, the of analogy between a pensioner who never can go·into the service collllllanding officer may deprive him of the opportunity of going to again and a soldier who may be upon the remote border of our country. the bank and drawing the money on the check, for he bas the check The bill, so far as it relates to the Pay Department, proposes to and is the one to draw the money on it. He must present the check degrade iihat department as compared with the Pay Department of to tho banlc When he goes there wit·h the check he may be com the Navy. When people are discussing the legislation of Cong'l'ess we pelled to be identified. He indorses his name on the check; but the are often the subject of very just criticism because of the discrimina bank officer says, "Who are you T" He baa to be identified. Then tion made between these two branches of our service. when be has obtained his money another difficulty arises. In this But there is another objection, Mr. Speaker, to a reduction of the view the system proposed may be offering a reward either for deser pay force. If you reduce the Army :five thousand men you do not tion or for drunkenness and insubordination. If a man is tired of reduce 7.he posts. The question is not so much the time that it takes the service and wants to desert, he thinks when he gets his money to pay the men· as the time that it takes to reach the places where tho "now is the chance." With that money he perhaps goes to some men are to be paid. pl:wo where he spends it pru-tly in drink and the remainder is prob This matter of reducing posts in ~he Army has been fully discussed ably stolen from him. Then be is arresteu and court-martialed for by officers of the Army. The General of the Army says that you can Statement showing posts visited, 1niles traveled, and time consumed by each otftcer of the Pay Department, United States Army, in malcing the 1·egulat bi-nwnthly pay·ments to t1·oops. .a ~ Days. Colonel .. *N. W. Brown, assistant New York City ..•.. West Point, N. Y.; David's Island, N. Y. H.; Fort.s Monroe, (Va. ;) Mc 1,559 8 paymaster-generaL Henry, and Foote, (Md. ;) Carlisle barracks, Alleghany, and Frank !ord arsenals, Penn. Ml\ior .... Henry Prince, paymaster. New York City ..... Forts Trumbull, (Conn.;) Adams, (R. I.;) Warren, Independence, 1,172 18 Division of the (Mass.;) Preble, (Me.;) Watertown, (Mass.,) Kennebec, (Me.,) Water Atlantic. vliet, (N. Y.) arsenals; Plattsburgh barracks, N. Y. Do... Henry C. Pratt, paym'ter. Detroit, Mich ...... Forts Wayne, Gratiot, (Mich.;) Portor, Niarrara, ami Ontario, (N, Y. ;) 1,338 11 Madison Barracks, (N.Y.,) Columbus, (0.,) and Indian:~opolis, (Ind.,) Do ... P. P. G. Hall, paymMter. New York City ... .. arsenals. Fmts Columbus, Wood, Hamilton, and Wadsworth, and Willet's Point, 82 4 l New York Harbor. Colonel .. *D. McChire, ass. pay. gen. . Louisville, Ky ...... } . { Local payments. Major... . W. B. Rochester, paym·r . Louisville, Ky ...... NewpOit barracks, Frankfort, Ky ...... 348 3 Do... H. B. Reese, paymaster . . . Louisville, Ky...... Department of Lebanon, Lancaster, Ky.; ~ashville, Humboldt, Chattanooga. Tenn., 2,172 3t tho South. Huntsville, Ala.; Atlanta, SaT"annah, Ga.; Saint AuJrUBtine, Fla. Do ... J. R. Mears, paymaster ... Charleston, S.C.·-·. Raleigh, Ch:ulotte, Forts Macon and Johnston, N.C.; Columbia., York-" 970 13 ville,~ ewborrv, S.C.; Augusta arsenal, Ga. Do ... *Goo. L. Febiger, paym'ter. N e'v Orleans, La..-.- ~ Department of 5 Jackson, Mi!(s.; Li.~.le Rock. Ark.; Mount Vernon arsenal, Ala.; Bar- 2,160 18 rancas barracks, Fla.; S2.int Martinsville, La. Do ... W. H . .Tolmaton, paym'ter New Orleans, La .... 5 the Gulf. } Baton Rouge, Colfax, La. ; Key West, Flo...... _...... 2,544 20 Do... * Yv. R. Gibson, paymaster. Snn Antouio, ~l.'exas . l { Local payments. / Do . .. E. D. Jmld, paymaster.... San Antonio, Texas. t Austin, Forts Richardson, Griffin, (Tcxa.'!,) Sill, and Gibson, (Ind. T.) .. 2,250 34 Do ... G. E ..Glenn,-paymaster ... San Antonio, Texas. Department of t Forts Clark, Duncan, Concho, and McKavett, ca.mp near Kerrville, 760 32 Texas. Camp on the Sabinal, Texas. Do . .. J. W. Nicholls, paymaster. Fort Brown, Texas .. J Edinbnr~h. Roma, Ringgold barracks, King's Rancho, F'tMcintosh,(Tex.) 480 22· Do ... W. P. Gould, paymaster .. FortStockt.on, Texas Forts Davis, Quitman, andBliEB, Texas...... 600 11 Do ... *F. E. Hunt, paymaster ... Loo.venworth, Kan .. Local payments. Do. .. J. B. M. Potter, paymaster. Santa. Fe, N.Mex .. Forts Union and Bascom, New Mexico ...... 603 5 Do ... V. C.Hannn, payilla.ster ... Chicago lllinois . ... Rock Lc;land arsenal, illinois, Saint Louis, Jefferson barracks, Mo .. ..•. 406 7 Do... C. M. Terrell, paymaster... Leavenworth, Kan .. Fort.s Larned and Dodge, Kansas, Camp Supply, Ind. T., stations 1,024 14 D(lpartment of along lino of Atchison, Topeka, and Sante Fe Railroad to Grenada. Do... E. H. Brooks, paymaster.. Leavenworth, Kan. . tho .Missouri. Forts Riley, Hays, Wallace, Kansas, Lyon, and Garland, Colo., Puebla., 1,628 17 Colo., stations along line of .Kansas Pacific Railroad to Denver, Colo. Do .. . A. B. Carey, paymast~r.... Santa Fe, N. M ..... §Forts Crai~. McRae, Bayard, Cummings, Tnlerosa., Selden, and Stan- 1, 776 2:} ton, New Mexico. . Do. .. F. Bridzman, paymaster .. {\ Fort Wingate, New Mexico ...... 366 8 Do... *A. H.l:)ew:~.rd, paymaster. Local payments. Do... Rodney Smith, paymaster.. t~~~.~~N~::::Sn.int Paul, Minn ... . I Fort-s Snelling, Ripley, (Minnesota,) Wadsworth, Abercrombie, Soward, 1,612 20 !Totton, and Pembina, Dakota Territory. • Do ... R. C. Walker, paymaster.. H~Jena, Mont. :rer... Department of Fort.s Ellis, Shaw, antl Bent.on, Camp Baker, Montana TeiTitory ...... 586 23 Do ... W. Smith, paymaster..... Sarnt Paul, Mmn . . . Dakota. Forts Rice, A.. Lincoln, Stevenson, and Buford, Camp Hancock, Bis 3, 366 27 marck, Dakota Ten·itory. Do ... Geo. W- Cnmlee, paym'r . . Sioux City, Iow::. . ... Fort.s J?mllall and Sully, Lower Brule, Cheyenne, and Grand River 866 13 agenc10s, Dakota Terr1tory. 4358 CONGRESSIONAL -RECORD. MAY 28, Stat.ement slwtvirlf} posts villiled, ntiles traveled, and tim,e consztnted by each officer of tlle Pay Department, tJ·c.-Continned. .-;:; I ~.g 0 Division Posts visited. Rank. Name and grade. Station. or department. ~"a:;.. a§ Do .. , *C. J. ~rogue, paymaster. San Francisco, Cal... Forts Y nma, Cal., a.n£1 Hall, Idaho Ter.; Camps Halleck & McDermit, Nev. 2, 406 30 Do ... J. H. elson, pa.yma..ster .. Prescot.t, Arizona Tr. } IMpartment of { Fort Whip~e, Ehrenberg; Camps Beale's Springs, Mojave, and Verda, 600 14 AriZona. .Arizona en-itoi, Do ... David Taylor, paymaster .. Tucson, .A.riwna Tr.. Camps McDowell, wie, Grant, and Apache, Arizona Tenitory .•.••.. 700 25 Do ... Chas. T. Larned, paymast'r Waflbi.ngton, D. C... 1Paymaster-Gen- Do ... J. H. Earon, paymaster .. \Va.'lhington, D. C... oral's office. Do ... R. D. Clarke, paymaswr .. Washingron, D. C... .Post paymaster. Do ... J.P. Brua,paymastcr ..... Do ... N. Vedder, paymaster .... Do ... T. H. Halsey, paymaster .. } Siokand off duty ... Do ... J. E. llurbank, paymaster I * Chief paymaster of clepartment. t Majors Jnclcl and Glenn alternate in making the payments indicated in their respective tours of duty. t Chief paymaster Vi vis jon of the Pacific and of the Department of California. §Majors Carey and Bl'idgcman alternate in making payments indicated in their respecth·e cases. 11 Paymas ters in Department of Columbia alternate in making payments indicated above. Now, while upon the subject of the expense of the Navy, I find surgeons to go to posts 1msupplied by .Army surgeons. There are there are but eight thousand enlisterl men, yet it costs almost $300,000 one hundred and thirty-five contmct surgeons. to pay t-hem. 'fhns it wm be seen that the comparison fails as be- Now, the Medical Department oftheAnny wants what. is done in t.he tween that force and the pensioners. Besides, the paymasters in the Navy and is proposed to be done in all other corps of the AI·my~ and Navy receive a ration a day after they have been iu the service five that is that the service shall be open to promotion, so that young men years, which is commuted at thirty cents a day. mn.y come into tho Medical Corps and become surgeons of the .Army Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Do not the paymasters in the with chance of promotion. Because after all, Mr. Speaker, that is one Navy correspond not only to the paymasters in the Army, but to t.he of the great motives which impels men to do and dare the fact that quartermasters in tho Army T Do they not furnish all the supplies to there is a higher position which may be reached feeds laudable ambi tbe sailors, snch as clothing and everything of that sort T Are they tion to exertion. Every man desires to obtain a hi~her place. If you not general disbursing officers, the sole dislmrsing officers of the . say a. surgeon of the Army shall never have any hlgller rank than Navy' · that of captain, then the .Army will be deprived of many excollent Mr. ALBRIGHT. I think not. and scientific men. 1\ir. BUTLER, of Massachusett,s. 0, yes. Let me say, Mr. Speaker, right here that the Medical Department Mr. .ALBRIGHT. The purser is a dL bursing officer in the Navy. of the .Army has shed more light on medical science than almost any Mr. BUTLER, of Mas achusetts. .A. paymaster in the Navy is a medical college in the country. The scientific books of research made purser, e.x officio, and a pm'Ser is a paymaster. This officer is the sole by the Medical Department of the .Army are full of light and are sought disbursing officer of the ship or fleet. after by every medical man in the country. Now the objection which l\1r. MAcDOUGALL. Does a paymaster in the Navy, supposing exists to this provision of the billisthis,andiwishtocall attentiontoit. that he acts as quarterma.ster, have to transport his stores so far a.s a I believe members of Congress would not cut down a useful branch quartermaster in the .A.rmyf of the service or cripple it so far as any provision ruay be made for Mr. BUTLER, of Ma sacbusetts. 0, no; he does not transport t.he surgeons and assistant surgeons. This proposition limits the number stores, but he ha.s charge of them while in the ship, and he has to of contract surgeons to one hundred. .A.cco:r:ding to the statement I keep the accounts. .All the accounts are kept by the paymaster in hav-e in my possession here, showing where every surgeon and assist t.he Navy, while in the Army the accounts are kept by the AI·my ant sur~eon is, if you provide only one hundred contract stugeons officers. yon will leave some posts and some places unsupplied with medical Mr. ALBRIGHT. The .Army paymaster has to keep au account assistance. Do you mean to do that f Do you mean to send men with each man·, and these accoUJJts are t{) be forwarded to the Pay- on the very verge of chilization to maintain the integrity of the master-General here, and must be verified. He keops an account with nation, to stand up for our flag, to protect the settlers upon the front each officerof the.A.rmy. Perhaps he keeps more individual accounts ier, and not give them medical at.te.ndance when sick f Yet you will than the paymast.er does in the Navy. I think he does in proportion do that very thing if you pass this bill as it is. If you say there shall to the number of paymasters of the Navy. We have now thirty be one hnndred contract surgeons and no more, then many posts will thouta.nd troops, and in the Navy eight thonsan Slaterrwnt showing the 1·elalion the 1nedical ojficers of onr Army bear to the sante offiw·s of the Engli-sh army as to rank, (and con-sequently pay,) ana · al.so to the other staff C01'P8 of the Anny and Navy. '8 Ratiot()wbolenum· Ratioofwbolenum ~ ~ ber of active and ber of a-ctive offi- retired. cera. Medical Department. §~ § ~ Q~ ~-· l=l j io -~ i j ] 0 Colonels. Lt.-cols. Colonels. Lt.-cols. 0 ~ )1 o H ~ ______...;:....._ __ , ___, ___,1 __ --f------~------ 6 16 121 408 451 702 1, 709 .. -...... • • .. . • .. 1 to 107 1 to 14 ~~~p~~ :~:~~~:d :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: .--- ~- 14 31 117 61 ...... 223 ...... - Total ...... 5 20 47 238 469 451 702 1, 93'2 1 to 41 1 to 8 ...... ======~======United States Navy-a-ctive...... • ...... 1 14 15 50 50 50 180 ...... 1 to 1.3 1 to 13 United States Navy-retired...... 16 4 ...... 6 3 ...... 29 ...... Total...... 17 18 15 . 56 53 50 209 1 to 11 1 to 14 ...... ===-=-===-======-======United States Army MedicaJ Department-active, (act July, 1866)...... 1 5 60 50 100 217 ...... 1 to 217 1 to 44 United States Army Medical Department-retired ...... -... -. 2 3 5 . .. • . . 11 ...... ------Total...... 1 2 7 63 55 100 228 1 to 114 1 to 32 ...... ====-=-======Unit.ed St-ates Quartermaster's Department-active...... 1 5 10 14 30 ...... 60 ...... 1 to 12 1 to 7 United States Quartermaater's Department-retired ...... -- 6 ...... -...... 6 ... - ... - •.. --- ...... ------Total...... 1 11 10 14 30 ...... 66 1 to 5! 1 to 6 ...... -======-======United Stat.es Commissary Department-active...... 1 2 2 8 13 .... -- 26 ...... 1 to 13 1 to 13 United States Collllllissary Department-retired ...... -.. -.- ...... TotaL ...... 2 2 8 13 ...... 26 1 to 13 1 to 13 ...... ======-====-=----===== United St.1.tes Engineer Department--n.ctive...... 1 6 12 24 30 26 1 99 ...... 1 to 16 1 to 8 United States Engineer Department-retired ...... -----. 1 1 1 -.... - .. --.. 3 ...... Tot.'\L ...... =- j ~ -.-7-lJ 253026102,tto14lt;;s =-=~= Mr. ALBRIGHT. fr. Speaker, I wish to call your attention to mnnity. I believe that the institution itself is an unmixed evil, and, another matter. In the sixteenth section of the bill, wbere provision aa I stated before, I should like to see that con·dition of affairs exist is made for examination of officers for promotion into the staff corps, where it would be unnecessary in the Government to invoke force for you will notice tllat it is provided that upon that board there are to be :my purpose. three line officers and two staff officers. Now, that is unjusttothestaff. But, _sir, we ~ave a large frontier, and I may say a cpnstantly The staff will t.hen be at the mercy of and in the hands of the line offi cxtendmg frontier. When I say constantly extending, I do not mean cers. It would be as unjust to the officers of the line if you were to that the soil is being extended, or the limits of our territory enlarged. provide that a majorit.y of the examining board for that branch of the But I mean that the peculiarity of settlements do increase t,he area service should be of the staff. You ought, as a simple matter of jus of our frontier for defense. tice, give the staff three members of this board and the line two. Why, sir, when we bad an army of fourteen or fifteen thousand Tliere are other features of the bill that will come up no doubt men, when I first crossed the frontier, t.hat frontier extended from iu its discussion, when it will be read by sections, which will justly Texas up along just west of the Mississippi River, and along tJle call for a.mendment. But at this time I content myself with having western boundary of Missouri and Iowa. Beyond there it was a wil called the attention of the House to what I conceive to be the objec derness occupied entirely by savages; and a.ll the protection then tiona.ule features of the bill, and with haVing urged the reasons why required was required for the frontier of AI·kansas, Missouri, and that portion of the bill in relation to the staff corps should be adopted Iowa. Since then our settlements have extended all over that vast and that the restrictive features which are put upon the staff officers region west of the Mississippi to the Pacific Ocean. Our frontier now should be removed. H the bill is pa-ssed· I do not know that I shall extends from t.he Rio Grande River in Texas along the southern bound have any objection to the changes proposed to be made in the Adjn ary line to California, up along our northwestern frontier, and then t~nt-General's Department. But I believe that if the bill is passed it doubles back nearly that entire· distance. The n'Ontier of to-day so a,s to do justice to the staff corps of tho Army, the Army will be exceeds the frontier of that day three or four fold. It extends .from satisfied with it. I know that there is jealousy between the staff and Texas across the southern portion of New Mexico and Arizona, then the line1 and I suppose there always will be; because a.ll men cannot up along the eastern front.ier of California through Nevada, Oregon, be staff officers, and therefore some men will be diss~tisiied with Washington Territory, and along the British po::;sessions, makin~ a those who can. It is the war over again between the different mem frontier exceeding five or six t.imes that which we had at the penod bers of the body; the hands complain of the feet, and so on. But a,s ~hen we had a small a.nd diminutive army. . near as may be you overcome that difficulty if you open t.he depart It is in tho interest of the people upon that frontier that I now ments to detail .and then to absolute promotion. Before I take my spenk ; and I protest against the reduction of the Army in beha.lf of seat I will ask to have read an amendment, which I propose to offer those peop~e who are settlers upon the public lands, and to whom pro at the proper time, as a substitute for the thirteenth section of the bill. tection is an absolute necessity. I am therefore opposed to any reduc The Clerk read as follows: tion of the Army. I am opposed to it upon the principle that we have That the Pay Department of the Army shall hereafter consist of one Payma.ster not now a sufficient Army to properly protect the frontiers. It would Geneml, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of a colonel of cavalry; one assistant not be in the interest of economy to reduce the AliDy if the present payma.<~ter-general, with the mnk., pay, and emoluments of a. lieutenant-colonel of condition of things continues in J;"eference to these Indians, who, as cavalry; two deputy paymasters-general, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of ml\jor ox cavalry ; and fifty paymasters, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of General Sherman said in his testimony, were in a constant state of mn:Jor of cavalry. turmoil and war with the frontier settlements, for if the Army is re duced we will be compelled to give protection by the next best means, Mr. NESMITH obtained the floor. the temporary employment of volunteer troops for the purpose. 1\Ir. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Before the gentleman from Ore A reduction of our Army, now diminutive, by seven regiments, gou proceeds I desire to indicate an a.J;Ilendment-, to which I think would bring it almost to a point of uselessness. General Sherman there will be no objection. It is to add to section 13 these words: said before the Committee on Military Affairs that he would rather The headquarters of the Army of the United Sta-tes shall never be moved from see the first twenty pages torn out of the Army Register and dispense the capital of the nation, except in time of war. • with t.he entire staff department of the Army than to be deprived of .Mr. NESMITH. I am opposed to the main principles of the bill, a single regiment of cavalry. You propose to reduce the Army with nml to most of its details; and I shall detain the House but a few out making corresponding reduction of posts. Those posts must be. minutes to state the reasous by which I am actuated in that opposi occupied. General Sherman, when before your committee, showed tion. I would like to live in a country, if there was any such Utopia, where every company of every regiment was stationed. When called wllere no army existed, and where there was no necessity for one. upon to say which of those posts he could dispense with, he was llnt in the presen_t condition of this country, notwithstanding our iso unable to indicate a single post of the hundreds scattered all ovei l:tte Army-generally. Every Congress seems to be imbued with the idea and your peace-men controlling the Imlians! Why, sir, I 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECOED. 4361 had a. fight. They dispersed over the State of Oregon ; and in pln.ce A bill (S. No. 142) for the relief of Nathaniel McKay, assignee of of finding citizens organized and rea The SPEAKER. There are two amendments already pending. Is an of a slave insurrection was upon us. The troubles which eventually Tile annual amount pairl for rents at Washington for officers' quarters is $(32,616, culminated in our civil war calleti for a heavy force of armed police an building up from our regular Army a force sufficient to defend tho furnishes a statement showing the number of casual~ies pet year in Union, we found, to say the least, that that Army and its entire sys the United States Army: _ tem was of no use whatever. The Government wa.s forced to call Statement showing the average nnmber of casualties per year in the United upon the militia. Raw volunteers brought into the field had to be drilled and disciplined precisely as they would have been without a States .Amty. regular Army in existence. The patriotic citizens of the United States, "both officers and men, were taught their duty in the field and under Discharged. fire. The fact is, sir, we have been· taught by bard experience, as well Arm of service. DeserteeL Died. Expira,. Fordis:t- Other as by the example of the war powers in Europe, that to rna ke an tion of l>ility. causes. efficient army we must create :mel educate the pri~ate soldier. France, service. that conquered Europe, and Germany, that has since conquered France, have been for a thousand years making and educating the 1 1 private soldier. In the discipline and drill of the men will be found 1~~1fe~-_-_-_._-:.-:::::::::::::::::~: ~ ' g~ ~ iW t ~~~ the power of the Army. Disregaruing this lesson or fact, we seek Infantry...... 239 2, 120 503 1, 100 3, 515 to do this work by educating an officer. When the officer is ma ~neral SHERMAN. Yes; because be is very much prossed by mothers and aunt.s I do not say it is-let us, if it be po sible for buman ingenuity to do who want t.o "Ct their sons and nephews into some soft I> lace. The Ordnance De it, devise some permanent policy that shall give to the men in our pnrtment is t~c S!J'ftest place in th~ Army, and they all want t surgeons; but the bttcr you c:m see, the other you cannot. Leave· This is one ~m]y of ~alf a; dozen of the many wise provisions intro him some discretion. If you pa"lS tbe bill with this provision the in duced fro!D time t-o tlme m 1be Army for the sake of giving some evitable result will be that a number of posts wi11 be entirely with sort of pnde and character to the common soldier. If you are O'OinO' out physicians and surgeons. The provision is aUocrether imprac to maintain an Army yon must do more in that direction. No~ yo~ ticable and mischievous-nothing else th:-:.n mischievo~1s. You must will break up th~ proposed provis~on of t.bis bill. The paymaster can leave such a maUer to the cliscretion of the commanding general or not tell at the dtst~noo of Washmgton from Cheyenne or Pembina the chief medical officer of the Army. ~ow much the soldier wants to leave on deposit in this sort of sav Then there is on the third page a provision which some of you, I mgs-bank, how much cash he wants to spend and how mnch to send haYe no doubt, will consider a small matter. I refer to section 6, home. You will brea.Jc up this savings fund, ~no of·the wisest provis which provides- · ions made for the Army. That the number of aids of the General of the Army shall not herenfter exceed How is it going to work under the most favorable circumstances 7 throe; the number of aids of tho Lieutenant-General and of tho Revoral m:Jdor-rrsn Suppose yon pay a company of soldiers at Pembina. The sutler in erals shall not ox:ceed two for each; and each briga-dier-general t>hnll have one 'aid. The ra.nk, pay, and emolumonts of the aids heroin provided for shall bo the same two days \vill have every one of these checks at from 10 to 40 per ns officers of cavalry of tho same grade, and no more. cent,. discou.nt. You cannot d~vise a more perfect scheme to rob the I would amend that section by changing the number somewhat; sold10r of his wages. That will be the case upon the frontier. But and I have an amendment which I shall endeavor to offer providing take the best case you can imagine. Take the case of Governor's tlmt these officers shall have a.t least the pay, rank, and emoluments Island, in N~~v York Harbor.. Yon send down checks to .pay off two of majors d cavalry. If a general or major-general of the Army de hundred solmcrs there; what IS t.he result f In two days the checks sires t:J detail for service on his staff some exceHent captain or lieu will be ~old at from 5 to 50 per c_ent. discount, or you will have t.o give tenant, I think it but fair that in going to this new position where the t.~e sol sections in relation to the staff corps of the Army. Will any member Nicholas Jose Mevrimet; which was read a first and second time, re of this House tell me that the duties of the staff corps to-day in t.ho ferred to the Committee of t:he Whole on tile Pri vat.e Calendar, and clifferent departments of the .A.nny are largely increased above wlln,t with the accompanying report, ordered to be printed. ' they were in 1860 f I think every member will agree wi th me that REDUCTION 01,, THE ARMY. they· are not materially changed; and yet, ir, to-day yon llave a largely increased staff corps compared with what it was in 1830. The Honse resumed the consideration of the bill for the reduction Then you had but one brigadier-general, eleven colonels, ten lieuten- of the Army, the question being upon the motion for the previous ant-colonels, seventy-four majors, one hundred and forty;six captains, question. and seventy first lieutenants, constituting the entire staff' corps, and Mr. McKEE. Are there any other amendments to be offered 1 amounting in all to three hundrecl and fourteen. The SPEAKER. There are two amendments pending now, one by Mr. MAcDOUGALL. I would ask the gentleman if tho duties of thn gentleman from Massachusetts [Mr. BUTLER] and one by the ~ron- the sta.:ti' corps were not largely i~creased during the wart tleman from Pennsylvania, [Mr. ..ALBRIGHT;] those are all thatothe Mr. DONNAN. The duties of the staff corps would necessarily be · rules permit to be offered. . . . increased with the increase of the Army, and they were necessarily Mr. Mc.~EE. I m?ve that the bill be recommitt-ed to the Commit- increased when our volunteer army was swelled to over a million tee on Military .A.ffarrs...... men ; but now that the Army has been reduced from a million and a . Th~ SPEAKER. That motion will be m order if the previous quos- half men to twenty-five thonsand men, why should you maintain any tion IS not seconded. . . such staff corps as you had during the war .or iiDlllediately upon its Mr. MAcpOUQALL. I move the bill be laid on the table. . .. close, when you had more than twice as large an army as now proposecl f Th? motiOn to lay on the table was not agreed to upon a diVISion, I was calling the attention of the Honse to what will be tLe organ- ayes .32, no~s not co~ted. . . . ization and size of the sta.ff under the pending bill, if it becomes The previous questiOn was then seconded and the marn quest1on a law. Under the provisions of this bill you will have six brigatlicr- ordered. generals at the head of the different staff corps, seventeen colonels, AFFAIRS Uf ARKA.J.~SAS. thirty-two lieutenant-colonels, one hundred and forty-one maJors, The SPEAKER announced the following as members of the com- one. hundred and fifty-four captains, and' one hnnclred and forty- mittee authorized by the resolution aclopted on yesterday in regard seven first lieutenants, making a total of four hundred ancl ninety- to affairs in Arkansas : seven. That will be an increase of brigadier-generals of five, an Mr. POLAND of Vermont, Mr. WARD of Illinois, Mr. WOODFORD of increase of colonels of six, an increase of lieutenant-colonels of twenty- New York, .Mr. SAYLER of Ohio, and Mr. SLoss of Alabama. two, an increase of majors of sixty-seven, an increase of captains of PATENTS, TRADE-MARKS, il'D COPYRIGHTS. eight, and an increase of first lieutenants of seventy-five, making an Mr. CONGER, by unanimous consent, introduced a bill (H. R. No. increase of officers since 1860 in the stafl' corps department .of one 3528) amending the law relating to patents, trade-marks, and copy- hundred and eighty-three. · h h · h ad fi t d d · f d Now, those members of the House who were members of the last n~ ts; w lC was re a rs an secon time, re erre to the Com- mittee on Patents, and ordered to be printed. Congress willi·ecollectthat this question wna quite distinctly brought before us on a proposition to n.uthorize the President to appoint a ENROLLED BILLS SIG:NED. paymaster-general, with the rank, pay, and emoluments of a brigadier Mr. PENDLETON, from the Committee on Enro11ed Bills, reported general. The position was then taken that the heads of the staff that the committee had examined and found truly enrolled bills of corps ought to be reduced in rank, and that the staff corps depart the :following titles; when the Speaker signed the same: ment ought to be reducid to somewhere nearly, if not quite, where .A.n act (H. R. No. 1560) to amend an act entitled "An act to amend they were prior to the trreaking out of the rebellion; and although an act entitlerl 'An act to reduce duties on imports and to reduce in the ~enRte disagreed with the House upon that question, yet when ternal taxes, and for other purposes,' " approved March 3, 1873 ; it went to a committee of conference and was considered there it .A.n act (H. R. No. 1590) to provide for the better protection of the was readily conceded that the staff corps ought to be fixed nearly frontier settlements of Texas against Indian and Mexican depreda wllere it was in 1860, and that the chiefs of these corps should only tions; have the pay and emoluments of a. colonel. .A.n act (H. R. No. 2782) to extend the time to pre-eruptors pn the Let me say that when we reach these severa] sections I propose to public lands in the State of Miimesota to make final payment; sn bruit amendments reducing the heads of the staff corps to the grade An act (H. R. No. 2999) for the relief of Henry .A.. Webster, V. B. of colonel. Let me say, further that the bill cloes not propose to dis McCollum, and .A. . Colby, of Washington Territory, pre-emptors on grade any of the present occupants of these positions who are briga the .Makah Indian reservation ; and dier-generals, who were distinguished officers in the lat-e war, and who .A.n act (H. R. No. 3267) changing the name and location of Iraaburgh were promoted in view of their merits. It is proposed that they shaJ.l National Bank of Orleans, county of Orleans, State of Vermont. fill these positions during life or until resignation. But I hope the The SPE'.A.KER. By order of the House ~ recess is to be taken to House will take the ground that whenever vacancies occur in the day at half paat four o'clock until half past seven o'clock this even different corps the appointees as chiefs of those corps shall only have ing, when the House will hold a session for the consideration of the the rank of colonel and their subordinates corresponding rank. tariff bill, no other business whatever to be in order. The hour of },urther, I hope the House will agree with me that promotion ought half past four o'clock has now arrived, and the House will accordingly to be most rapid in the line of the Army, but by the proposed estab tn.ke a recess. lishment you render promotion most rapid in tho staff corps. The House took a recess until half past seven p.m. We wil.l have men seeking these positions, which are far easier, more acceptable, and more sought after than others; positions in the city at the seat of Government rather than in the field, where men EVENING SESSION. have to endure the hu.rdships of the frontier. The House reassembled at half paat seven o'clock p. m., Mr. ELLIS The chairman of the committee [Mr. COBURN] reminds me that he H. ROBERTS taking the chair as Speaker pro tempore. de ires to call the previous question on this bill. I will therefore yield . the floor to him, with the understanding that a-s we reach the differ TARIFF AND INTERNAL REVENUE . ent sections I have his consent to offer the amendments I have sug Mr. D.A.WES. I move that the House resolye itself into tho Com gested, so as to bring these staff corps to the grades I have indicated. mittee of the Whole on the state of the Union to resume consider Mr. STR.A. 'VBRIDGE. I desire to ofl'er an amendment. ation of the bill amending the customs and intemal-reYenue laws. Mr. COBURN. I will hear it read. ' The motion was agreed to. The CJerk reacl as follows: Tho House accordingly resolved itself into Committee of the Whole, Insert in section 12 after the word "surgeons" and before the words "with the (Mr. TYNER in the chajr,) and resumed the consicleration of the bill rank., pay, and emoluments of majors:" "those having served thirty yoorsand up (H. R. No. :3491) to amend existing customs and intemal-rovenue wa.ru from the date of their ori!!inal entry into service shall have the rank, pay, laws, and for other purpo es. and legal allowances of colonefs; those having served twenty years and upward from tue date of their original entry into service shall ha.vetherank, pay, nnd legal 1\Ir. D.A. WES. When the committee rose 1Mt eYeninO' they were in allowance of lieutenant-colonels; and all other surgeons." the act of dividing on an amendment 1·eJative to the duty on .Moisic iron. The committee is now very thin; and it would not be proper Mr. COBURN. I do not yield to allow that to be offered; only to to try to get a division. I therefore suggest that we turnover to that bo read. I now call the previous question on the bill and pending p:nt of the bill relating to internal revenue, ou which I think there amendments. will not be much debate. We might go on with that upon tho untler NICHOLAS FOUQUE AND MARC ANTOINE FOUQUE. standing that we sltall return to the pending amendment as soon as .Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts, by unanimous consent, reported the comlJlittee is full . back from the Committee on the Judiciary, with a recommendation Mr. DURHAM. I object; I insist on the regular order. that the same do pass, Honse bill No. 2850, for the relief of the heirs Mr. ELLIS H. ROBERTS. I suggest that we take up such parts of of Nicholas Fouque and :Marc Antoine Fouque; which was referred the internal-revenue provisions as may be passed without oLject.ion. to the Committee of the Whole on the Private Calendar, and the re M:r. WILLARD, of Vermont. The difficulty is that gentlemen who port accompanying the same ordered to be printed. may be interested in that part of the bill clitl not exp ct it to be reached for an honr, and for t.hat reason probably are not horo. NICHOLAS JOSE ~fEVRIMET. The CH.A.IRM.A..~. The Chair understands the gentleman f-rom Ken Mr. BUTL;ER, of Massachusetts, also1 from the same c01pmittee, re tucky [Mr. DumrA..~] to object to anythiug but proceeding regularly ported a bill (H. R. No. 3527) for the 1·estoration of the property of with tllfl consideration of tho bill. The Chair will therefore announc~ 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4367 th~tt when the committee rose last evening au amenumeut otfere Mr. SAYLER, of Indiana. They have been almost entirely stopped. BUTLER] may say as to the logical connection-the fact was that those Mr. KELLEY. Now, sir, so far as jute is nsed in my district it is mills were shut up and this most important interest was destroyed. used for .Qlaking paper, and my constituents want it to come in free Now, sir, I merely ask that a very short letter which was sent to of duty. But I believe that their interests are involved in maintain my colleague in the last Congress from manufacturers of cotton-bag ing a generous systerq of protection. Therefore, while I ask Congress ging, as it is called, from flax, be read to the House, as it contains to protect their iron and their steel and their other productions, I feel several important facts illustrating this whole subject. bounu to stand u-p here and in their name vote protection to the few Th~ Clerk read as follows: materials raised.by the farmers which can be protected. And for t.hat CUYAHOGA FALLS, Omo, March 28,1872. purpose I ask that jute-butts be taken from the free list and put under DEAR Sm: Your esteemed favor of 26th instant, is at hand. Our business is now a duty of ()a ton. . . confined to the manufacture of bagging. The small duty levied on jute and jute butts has re.'!ulted in great benefit to Ohio. Previous to 1867 the flax-straw of t.hia Mr. HA.WLEY, of Connecticut. Mr. Chairman, I am opposed to State was mostly burned as valueless, lint the duty on jute and jute-butts cause{l this duty, whether it be $10 or $6; and my first reason is that machinery to be employed for producing the flax fiber, and we now nse in our estab according to my view Congress should make up its mind to have lishment 2,600,000 pounds annually, or the produce of full10,500 acres of land. We employ about one hundred and twenty persons, and at least six hundred are on this subject of the tariff a policy which should last-well, to be measurablv dependent on om btisiness. The value of our annual product is about reasonable, say five years. I open the Congressional Globe and find $187,000, sold mostly in the markets of Cinoinnati, Louisville, Memphis, and New that in April, 1!:l70, this very question was discussed very fully, mem Orleans, but occasionally in New York when we come in competition with manu ber after member taking part in the debate; and although I have not facturers of jute and jute-butts, whose united efforts are now making to get jute and jute-butts placed on t.he free list. There are eight other ~ax-bagging manu looked far enough to find out the result, my impression is that you factories in Ohio, two in lllinois, one in Indiana, and three in Kentucky. The settled the question by admitting jute entirely free of duty. hemp manufactnrers in Kentucky and Missouri are equally interested in having :Mr. SAYLER, of Indiana. In 1862 the duty was put at $6 andre the duty retained on importations of jut.e and jute-butts. We have abandoned tho ·mained at that I believf' uritil1872. business of yarn and twine, but hope for t.he continuance of its manufacture in ot.her hands, and· that the present duties on flax, hemp, and jute goods and twine :Mr. HAWLEY, of Connecticut. I understand there was a change will not be lessened. in 1870 and a change in 1872. Very respectfully, your obliged, Mr. SAYLER, of Indiana. I do not know anything about a change JOHN HINDE & SONS. in 1870; I know that in 1862 the duty was fixed at $6. Hon. W. H. UPSO~, M. C., Washington, D. 0. Mr. HAWLEY, of Connecticut. Well, it appears that ~he tariff with respect to this article has been changed twice within the last Mr. MONROE. I will say this was a remonstrance coming from four years. The last change was to put it on the free list. It is now manufacturers engaged in this industry against the fluctuating pol free of duty. I speak for my district, as every man here speaks for icy which my friend from Connecticut [Mr. HAWLEY] as well as his district or section. In my district ther~ are large interests en myself condemns. gaged in the manufacture of manila, chiefly into paper. We import [Here the hammer fell.] • this jute and use it in our II)anufactures. Now, it is proposed to im Mr. DAWES. The gentleman from ·Pennsylvania [Mr. KELLEY] pose this duty, not by a bill which has been printed and before the and myself are both protectionists, but we ainve at it in a clifferent House, of which my constituents could have notice. The bill which way. His is to pile up duties on manufa-ctured articles and mine is waa laid before us in print led me to suppose that my district was not to take it off the raw material. My theory is, every raw material in to be interfered with in any way by this change in the tariff. But I the world npon which we can bestow our industry and which is not learned last night that the committee had privately decided-a8 pri- · raised here should come in free. In that way we arrive indirectly at vately as usual-had decided quietly, without the knowledge of the all the protection which my distinguished friend from Pennsylvania rest of us, upon an amendment imposing a duty of 6 per ton on this gets by pilin.g it up on the manufactured article. When jute-butts article, tons of which are nsed in ·my district every week. were made free two years ago they entered into the manufacture of Is this the way you are going to treat the interests of the country f paper and entered into the manufacture of grain-:-bags and bags for I am not here begging for any additional duty. I am not haggling cotton. Of course if jute-butts come in free. and enter into the manu about tariff or free trade or anything of the sort. I have never, since facture of paper they make paper cheaper. They make every country I have been on this floor, beg~ed an additional duty to protect any newspaper in the land cheaper. body in my district; but I will say in behalf of New England, as I Our friends who raise flax say they make grain-bags so cheap that might say in behalf of any other part of the country, "Make your they cannot make· a bag of tow of flax unless they make H for noth duty to suit yourselves; I do not ask any additional duty for my ing. Therefore the object of putting 10 a ton on jute-butts· is to part of the country; fix the duties to suit yourselves, and stick to raise the cost of every grain-bag that every farmer uses jnst 40 per them." When you have fixed your duties, stand by them ten or fif cent. in order that they may sell gr~in-bags made of tow 40 per teen years-long enough to allow people to build an engine-house, cent. higher to the farmer. That is just what it is. That is the pur erect their engines, and start a new manufacture. I s~y that this pose an 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4371 , sented at all to the Commit~e on ·ways and Means, had better be commen whole belt of pine and he~ocli :forests, and in order to make this ex hemlock while clearing their lands. By this process we hope to en tract you are going through the whole tract of the hemlock and strip able the settlers in the wooded evergreen regions to clear their lands pinfl' the bark off, and letting the trees rot. with a little profit from stripping the bark and clearing the limbs 1\fr. MERRIAM. There are one hundred and twenty-five miles and twigs from the hemlocks for the purpose of extracting the square of it in my State. · tannin, and using the logs for lumber, thereby utilizing the whole Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. What are one hundred and twenty- tree. . five miles Rquare f . Why will my friend here withdraw his attention from the Geneva Mr. MERRIAM. Large E>nongh to lose Ma.ssachusetts in. award, and from the gn~at questions committed to him, and stand up Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. That is the size of the gentle here in defense of the trembling, · delicate hemlock tree T What man's di trict, and it would not make extract enough to keep a Lynn shoemaker stands behind him Y shoe-shop running one year. It cost them 18,000,000 last year for Mr. BUTLER, of :Massachusetts. None; our shoemakers-do not shoe-strings alone. What is one hundred and twenty-five miles use tannin. square f Why it is a belt about three hundred miles wide, running .l\Ir. CONGER. What interest does he represent here that makes around this whole continent, and the pine and hemlock ha.s been so him plead the cause of the hemlock tree, lifting his hands to heaven depleted that the price of lumber ·has already doubled within my and. saying, in the beautiful language of my friend, the poet from life-time To-day in the city of Lowell, where forty years ~o the Massachusetts, [Mr. DAWES]- . oest kind of lumber could be got . for 10 a thousand feet, it now co ts 100 a 'thousand feet. Woodman, spare that tree 7 Mr. MERRIAM. What is the price of hemlock f We are not dis [Here the hammer fell.] , cussing pine. ' Mr. BRADLEY. I want to ask my colleague [Mr. CoNGER] if it is Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Hemlock lumber waa never val not true that there are hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of uable but for two purposes : for-fencing and for lathin~ before we machinery st~ding idlo in Michigan to-day that has been erected for had laths. It was used to make the thin boards for lathmg, but not the exclusive purpose of manufacturing this extract of tannin f And very much, and it was used for coarse-board and fenoin~ stuff. The is it J?.Ot true that gentlemen from Michigan during the last fall were trouble is that you are putting a premium here, by putting a tax on offering to the constituents of the gentleman from Ma-ssachusetts [Mr. this article, on the destruction of your whole hemlock country. BUTLER] barrels of this extract by the thousand at their own price, Mr. MERRIAM rose. and they could not sell it because there was no demand Y Mr. BUTLER, of Ma sachusetts. I cannot yield to the gentleman. Mr. CONGER. I will answer the question. in this way : I am in Mr. MERRIAM. I will give you all tl;le time I have to spare. · formed that the price paid for tannin is reduced to the lowest possible Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. You have not more time than figure which will in any manner pay for its manufactur . you have hemlock. ..Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I can answer the question. It Mr. MERRIAM. If it is not good for anything what do you. want was so thin and poor that it soured and our people would not buy it. to save it forT . Mr. BURCHARD. Two years ago Congress reduced the duty on Mr. BUTLER, of ~!assaohusetts. We want it for tanning purposes. leather from 35 per cent. ad valorem to 15 per cent. ad valorem. It made Why should we not have this raw materill freeY hides free and it put hemlock bark on the free list. [Here the hammer fell.] . Mr. CONGER. Where it is now. · Mr. BUTLER, of Mat~Saohusetts. I wjthdraw the amendment. Mr. BURCHARD. Three years ago the importation of hemlock . Mr. CONGER. I rise to oppose the amendment. bark, then paying a duty of 10 per cent., was 'about 100,000 worth. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. You have spoken once on the The next year after it was made free the importation increased to question. ~ $196,000. During the last fiscal year $203,000 worth was imported Mr. CONG~R. Not on your proposition. I object to the gentle- free of duty. Now, there is a very small trade in this article of ex man withdrawing his amendment. · tract of hemlock bark. Only 24,000 worth was imported la~t year Mr. BUTLER, of Mas a~husetts. Very well. and the duty was only $5,000. But the price of bark has largely in Mr. CONGER. The gentleman need not be afraid of what I have crea ed. to say. Mr. CONGER. The value of the importation of the bark last year Mr. BUTLER, of Ma-ssachusetts. I certainly am not afraid. wa.s 157,000. Mr. CONGER. The gentleman is timid all at once. Mr. BURCHARD. And 46,000 more you will find just below in 1\!r. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. Not at all. the import statement, which add to that makes the amount 203,000. Mr. CONGER. Then, I will go on. In the State of Michigan there The bark has increased from 4 a cord to $5 a cord. The bark and are hemlock forests from which if I had the honor to lead my friend extract evidently- are advancing in price. I cannot see how. it is from Ma aohusetts [Mr. BUTLER] into them and leave him in the going to injure this interest connected with the extract of tannin or center, he never would return to bless the world more; he would be extract of bark to put this article on the free list, any more than lost fore.ver to the world. it injured the hemlock forests when we put hemlock bark on the free A ~mER. · And to himself. · list. I, for one, think that we should carry out the policy we adopted Mr. CONGER. And to himself. two years ago in reducing leather in the interest of the manufacture . :Mr. DAWES. "Lost to sight, to memory dear." of leather. If I believed with some gentlemen here that the Cana Mr. CONGER. I accept the amendment. One fire 1n the State of dians paid this d'a.ty, my view might be different. But I agree with Michigan three years ago burned up and destroyed hemlock enough the gentleman from Massachuse~ts [Mr. BUTLER] that the consumers to make all the tannin that could be used by all the shoemakers in in this country pay it. For that reason I think we ought .to make the United States for the next twenty years. . the duty as light as possible. Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. They do not use tannin; they use • Mr. DAWES. I hope tha,t now we shall have a vote. leather. . Mr. MERRIAM. I withdraw my amendment th~t my colleague Mr. CONGER. It was burned up and destroyed. In the progress from New York [Mr. SMI'.(H] may renew it. of settlements all along in the new countries of the Northwest, and Mr. SMITH, of New York. I renew the amendment. The gentle perhaps in the Northeast, there is more hemlock destroyed every year, man who has last spoken [Mr. BURCHARD] inquires what harm is to bumed up and wasted by the fanners necessarily in clearing their be done by putting extract of hemlock bark upon thefreelist. lean lands, than would make all the extract of tannin which the United bear witness for one that some harm will be done. In m~ own di~ States could use for the next fifty years. . trict-l do not speak critically, but I judge that from $200,000 to The pine of Michigan gone! Why, sir, we furnish 2,000,000,000 feet 300,000 has been invested ·within eighteen months in establlilh year by year, and we have onough_to furnish that for the next one hun ments for the manufacture of the extract of hemlock bark ; and dred ye8JI'S. The gentleman said that pine in this city is worth 100 this little amendment putting that article on the n:ee .list wipes a thousand. Why, sir, we are glad to sell it from our mills at 13. out that property of my constituents to the amount of 200,000 or From whom does the gentleman buy it here t How much could my $300,000. constituents sell here at half the price he speaks off But I will not A protective tariff has been defined to be "a combination of jobs." dwell upon that. Of course that is a false definitionr yet it contains a vast deal of truth. 1 All through the Middle States of this Union, through the mountain What is the sort of protective tariff that this Committee on Ways and regions, hemlock is to be found, useless for any other purpose but Means advocates f It seems to be, as my colleague has srud, a tariff for obtaining tannin, continually destroyed by fires. There is scarcely which shall protect the interestsof the tanners upon the se~shore of a Repre entative here but what represents a State some part of which Massachusetts, while it. ignores the interests of these property-holders Jp.ay utilize this industry. It costs from 15,000 to 35,000 to prepare throughout the Middle.and Northern States and wherever this bern- , the ma-ohinery, and there ·are hundreds of thousands of dollars look grows. The gentleman from Massachusetts, [Mr. DAWES,] who e invested in the machinery to-day. disposition to protect the people of this country touches the sublime, .Mr ..BUTLER, of l\Iassa.ohusetts. Allow me to ask a question. proposes to protect them by making their property worthles , so that Ir. -DONGEa. One question, if it does not qpme out of my i:ime. they cannot sell it. It strikes. me- that this is a sort of protection of Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. The gentieman said when he which we do not desire very much. was up before that the supply of hemlock had got so low up in Michi :Mr. Chairman, the farmers of this country1 the settlers in our new gan that they were utilizing the twigs and br~J.nche of the hemlock Territories, find it necessary to sell their henu.ock ba.rk in order to pay tree. Ilow is it, then, t.Q.at t4e sqpply is inex.haustil)l~ 1 the expenses of clearmo- their lands. The establishments in Canada, Mr. CO~GER. Becan ~ by so qoi11g the farmers in ~JleMiiJ.g their in the niidst of hemlock forests exceeding millions of a~res, fell the lauds can g~t a profit from th~ whole . tr~. They can s~v~ tb.~i!' forests for the hemlock bark alon~. We cannot compete with them; I • I o f 4 f I - - • o • ' } l \ o o j. ~ ./ • • • ~· , . ···~. ~1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4373 I· and when you allow the extract of hemlock bark to come in free you poor. Its free admission wo~1d in a great measure re-establish the not only drive out of existence all the manufactures of the extract in trade between our southern ports and the West Indies; a very desirable ' this country, but yon render comparatively worthless every acre of thing to those living in the South Atla:atic States, and which would land throughout this Union that grows hemlock. I sincerely hope help them to regain some of their lost prosperity, and thus enable that the protection which our friends demand for the manufactures them to pay more taxes into the Treasury. It wolild also by its free of New England may be ext.ended also to the manufactures in the introduction and consequent reduction of price be of value to the l\!iddle and Western States. . farmer as a fertilizer, used in connection with lime. :r4e price of 1\fr.l\!ERRIA.M. I withdraw my amendment. salt at New Berne, North Carolina, in 1861 was 16 cents per bushel, The CHAIRMAN. The question now recurs on the amendment of and now it is from 37 to 50. In my own district the price ranges the gentleman from Michigan [Mr. CONGER] ~o strike out the clause from 62i cents to $1 per bushel. This makes it quite a burden upon placing extract of hemlock bark on the free list. the people. The amendment w.as agreed to. _ I would much prefer to see the tax .remain on m3ttche8 and bank Tlle Clerk read as follows: checks and see it taken ofl' salt. The present revenue is, I think, with an average ad valorem duty Quicksilver. of 158 per cent., about 742,000. Ifyouinquirehowthatshall be made Mr. MERRIAM. I move to amend by striking out qnicksilver. I up, I say place it on salaries and incomes, and stocks and bonds. ca:mot understand why the· Committee on Ways and Means propose The Forty-second Congress did a good work in reducing the tax. · to put quicksilver on the free list, and thus take away some -$15,000 Let us do a better and abolish it entirely. per annum of revenue. 1 would like the chairman of the committee 1\fr. MAYNARD. I am glad this subject ha.s been brought up en to explain the reasons to us; for-the facts in regard to quicksilver tirely in the way it has. This argument in reference to the duty on· are simply these: Spain produce.d . last year 36,000 fias~; Russia salt is one which has been made in our part of the country a great 11,000 flasks; Austria 9,000 flasks-all produced by conviCt labor, many years back. The same argument which was very well stated against which well-paid AmeP.can labor mnit compete. Our own here this evening we have heard a great ma.ny times before. It pre industry enga mittee this session. No man has asked the committee to consider the :Mr. SMITH, of Ohio. I rise to a point of order. qnestion of touching it this year and to bring it into a bill, the object The CHAIRMAN. The .gentleman will state it. of which is to correct mistakes in the tariff, and to spend our time :Mr. SMITH, of Ohio. Is the amendment of the gentleman from in that way is entirely throwing it away. We shall lose what we · l\fichlgan [:Mr. FIELD] pertinent to the amendment of the gentleman have gained in reference to silk andothermatterR, and wemightjust from North Carolina, [Mr. VANCE f) as well conclude that when tlie committee rises to-night tile three The CHAIRMAN. The Chair thinks it is. days and nights we have spent on this bill have been thrown away, for Mr. DAWES.. Will the Chair please state the amendment. I do not think the Committee on Ways and :Means will feel disposed The CH.A.IRMAN. The Clerk will read the amendment of the gen to a k the House to go into conilnittee again on this bill, if the pur tleman from l.{ichigan, [Mr. FIELD.] l)OSe and intent of the committee is to take up any new thing. The Clerk read the amendment, as follows: Of course, the Committee on \Vays and Means know that•it is in Strike out the propositi9n in regard to salt, and insert "on quicksilver, 15 per tllo power of the House to load this bill down with new matter. They cent." do not expect that their conclusions on these items will be adopted The CH.A.IRMAN. The Chair misunderstood the amendment. It ·without debate or change. They do not ask t.hat, but they do a~k of is not in order. - tho House that matters that never have come before any comiD.lttee The question was then taken upon the amendment moved by Mr. of the House shall be left out of the bill. If the House decides V ~CE; and upon a division' there were-ayes 51, noesfi6; no quorum otherwise, tho Committee on 'Vays and :Means sees, i£ the House does votmg. not, that it is utterly impossible for them to go on. Let us therefore Mr. VANCE. I call for tellers. have a vote thn.t will settle the question. The CH.A.l&'-IAN. No quorumhavingvo.ted, theChairwilln;ppoint .Mr. HARRIS, of Virginia. I rise to oppose the amendment. the gentleman from North Carolina, Mr. VANCE, and the gentleman The CH.A.IRMAN. The amendment has already been opposed. . from Massachusetts, l\ir. DAWES, to act as tellers. . Mr. HARRIS, of Virginia. I ri~:~e to a question of order. Only one Mr. BUTLER, of Massachusetts. I ask that the amendment be speech has been made on the amendment of tl).e gentleman from West again read. Virginia, [1\Ir. HEREFORD.] He offered an amendment to strike out The amendment was read, to insert in the free list these words: the last word, and spoke to it; and that is the only speech that has l>ecn made on that amendment. Salt, in bulk or in bags. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman fromMa.ssachusetts [Mr. DA.WES] The committee proceeded to vote by tellers, but before tho "result spoke in opposition to it. was announced, . Mr. DAWES. I hope the gentleman from West Virginia will with Mr. VANCE said: If I can have an opportunityto offer my amend draw his amendment and let the gentleman from Virginia renew it. ment in the House and have a vote upon. it I will withdraw my Mr. I;JEREFORD. I withdraw my amendment. demand for a further count. Mr. HARRIS, of Virginia. I renew it. Mr. Chairman, I have not l\lr. D.A.WES . I will not object to that. been of those who have interfered with the report of the Committee The CHAIRMAN. Then the Chair understands that the amend on Ways and Means, and perhaps after this amendment we may re ment of the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. V A.J."'CE] will bo ceive the admonition of the chairman of that ·committee, and not considered a-s agreed to, and a separate vote will bo taken on it in hereafter interfere with its report. But this question is ~ow before the House. the committee and we are called to vote upon it, and therefore I 1\Ir. CONGER. I object to that. desire to give the reasons why I shall vote for the amendment of the Mr. DAWES. On the count before the call for tellers the majority gentleman from North Carolina, EMr. VANCE.] Salt is an article of was against the amendment. The gentleman from North Carolina prime necessity, used by everybody as much or more than tea or cof called for tellers, but before any quorum had voted by tellers he sai 1874. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD. 4375 and others, of New .Albany, In.diana., that th~ Chines~h:~demnit~~nd l\Ir. KELLY, from the Committee on Public Lands, to whom was be appropriated to the educatiOn of the Chinese w1thin the Umted referred the bill (S. No. 135) relating to certain public lands border States, to the Committee on Foreign Affairs. ing on Lake ?ontchartrain, in the city of New Orleans, reported it By Mr. --: The pQtition of ~·. E. Heath, and others, of Webster with umendments. · Parish, Loni iana, for a post-1·oute from linden, Lonisiana, to Pales Mr. SPRAGUE, from the Committee on Public Lands, to whom tine, Arkansas, to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post Roads. was r~ferred the bill (H. R. No. 2694) for the r t?lief of Benjam.in W. Also, the pet.ition of citizens of Webs~er and Bien ~lle Pa~~hes, Reynolds, reported it with amendments. Louisiana, for the establishment of certam post-routes m LoUisiana, He also, from t.he same committee, to whom wa-s referred the bill to the Committee on the Post-Office and Post-Roads. (S. No. 309) to extend the time for proof ::mel p:~yments on pre-emp- tion claims upon the public lands, reported adversely thereon. ' The PRESIDENT p1·o ternpo1·e. If there be no objection tho bill will be indefinitely postponed. · l\lr. HITCHCOCK. I ask that that bill be placed on the Calendar. IN SENATE. The PRESIDENT 1J1'0 tempore. It will be placed on the Calendar with the adverse report of the committee. FRIDAY, JJ!ay 2!>, 1874. • TIME OF HOLDDTG COURTS I~ VER:.\IONT. The Senate met at twelve o'clock m. Mr. EDMUNDS. I am instructed by the Committee on the J ndi ciary, to whom was referrecl the bill (H. R. No. 3169) changing the Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. BYRON SUNDERLA!'\'1). 7 D. D. On motion of Mr. SHERMAN, and by unanimous consent, the read time of holiling circuit and district courts in Vermont, to report it ing of the Journal of yesterday's proceedings was.dispensed with. back without amendment. If there be no objection, as the bill only changes the time of holiJ.ing existing courts and does nothing else, at PETITIO ~ S .Al\'1>- MEMORIALS. the request of the judges, I ask for its present consideration. If any :Mr. CONKLING presentetl the petition of the American Seamen gentleman desires the bill to go over in order that he may look into Friends' Society, praying an appropria.tion for the cost of repairing the it, of course I do not ask it. . Sen.men's Bethel churc-h at Norfolk, Virginia, used for military pur · There being no object.ion, the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, pose~ from 1862 to 1865; which was referred to the Committee on proceeded to consider the bill. Claims. It provitles that the term of the circuit court holden at Rutland on l\fr. BUCKINGHA.l\f. I present a communication from the freed the ad of October shall be held on the first Tuesday in October, and men residincr among the Chickasaws and Choctaws,· adclressed to th~ the term of the district court holden at Rutland on the 6th of Octo chailwan of the Committee on Indian Affair , representing that they ber shall be held on the first ~esday of October; the term of the are still slaves except in name, and asking the Government to pay the circuit court holden at Windsor on the fourth Tue day in July shall expenses of a delegation to ·washington that they may present their be held on the third Tuesday ju l\iay; and the term of the di.'3trict grievances. I move its reference to the Committee on Indian Affairs. court held at Windsor on the Monday after the fourth Tuesday of The motion was agreed to. July shall be on the third Tuesday in May; but the act is not to apply 1\Ir. SAULSBURY presented the pctit.ion of H. C. Harvey and 160 to the next terms of the circnit and district- court to be holden at other citizens of Camden, Delaware, praying that the law imposing Windsor, but they shall be held at the times now provided by l:tw. a tax of 10 per cent. on State-bank circulation may be repealed; which The bill was reported to the Senate without amendment, ordcrccl wa.'3 referred to the Commit. ,tec on Finance.- to a thil·d reading, read the third time, and passed. Th"'DIANS IN NORTIIEIL' SUPERrnTENDENCIES. LEGALIZATION OF HOliiESTEA.D E~RIES . Mr. BUCKINGHAM. I desire to give notice that at·the conclusion Mr. SPRAGUE. I am directed by the Committee on Public Lands, of the morning business I desire to call up the bill (S. No. 154) to to whom wa-s referred the bill (H. R. No. 3354) to legalize entries of aruond the act entitled "An act for the relief of certain tribes of In public lands tmder the homestead ln.ws in certain cases, to report it flians in the northern superintendency," approved June 10, 1872, back without amendment, and I ask the attention of the Senate to which is regarded as very important by the Secretary of the Interior. 1 the bill at this time. The PRESIDENT 1n·o tempore. The unfinished business at the ex Mr. SCHURZ. I hope the Senate will proceed to the inlmediate piration of the morning hour is the Military Academy appropriation consideration of that bill. bill. The Senator from Connecticut gives notic~ that he will ask to The PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill will ·be read for informnr lay that bill aside informally and take up the bill indicated by him. tion. The Chief Clerk read the bill. REPORTS OF COM:MITTEES. In all cases of entries of public lands made under the act entitlecl Mr.'-&HERUAN. I am directed by the Committee on Finance, to "An act to secure homesteads to actual settlers on the public domain," whom was referred the bill (H. R. No. 3171) to amend the cust.oms approved l\Iay 20, 1862, where tho affidavit required by section 2 of revenue laws, and to repeal moieties, to report it back with sundry the act was made before the clerk of the county of there idence of the amendments; and I also give notice that on Tuesday next, at the person making the entry, without having first made the settlement o~ira+;ion of the morning hour, I shall ask the Senate tQ take up this and improvement required by· the provisions of section 3 of the act bill for action. entitled "An act amendatory of the homestead law, and for other lJtiT Mr. BUCKINGHAM, from the Committee· on Commerce, to whom poses," approved March 21, 1 64, the bill proposes to legalize . and was referred the bill (S. No. 809) to incorporate the Isln.nd and Sea confirm those a~Q.avits, so as to have the same force and validity as board Coasting Company of the District of Columbia, repor~d ad if the provisions of the last-named act had been strictly compliccl versely thereon; and the bill was po tponed indefinitely. wi~ . Mr. FERRY, of Michigan, from the Committee on Finance, to whom Mr. EDUUNDS. What is the effect of that' I should like to have was referred the bill (H. R. No. 3237) to authorize the First National it explained. ' Bank of Seneca to change its name, reported it without amendment. The PRESIDENT pro tempore .. Is there ol>jection to the pres.ent · He also, from the same committee, who were instructed by a reso consideration of the bill · lution of the Senate to inquire and report as to the repeal of the law l\fr. EDUDNDS. I do not object to its consideration. _ forbidding the producers of tobacco from selling to persons other Tho PRESIDENT pro tempore. The bill is before the Senate as in than licensed dealers, submitted a repm:t thereon ; which was ordered Committee of the Whole. t.o be printed, and the committee was discharged from the further ~Ir. SCHURZ. I will explain it. Under the amendatory act of 1864 consideration of the subject. certain partie could ent.er lands under the general homestead law, Mr. CONOVER, from the Committee on Revolutionary Claims, to by making the preliminn,ry affidavit before the c~erk of the county whom was referred the bill (S. No. 314) for the relief of the heirs at where t.he paxty might reside, but in such case the party must ha.ve law of )1athieu Alexis de Rochefermois, reported it without amend- first settled on the land. Under previous acts this settlemenli was not ment. . required if the affi