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Debates Proceedings Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Speaker The Honourable Ben Hanuschak Vol. XVII No. 39 2:30p.m., Wednesday, April 15th, 1970. Second Session, 29th Legislature. Printed by R. S. Evans - Queen's Printer for Province of Manitoba ELECTORAL DIVISION NAME ADDRESS ARTHUR J. Douglas Watt Reston, Manitoba ASSINIBOIA Steve Patrick 10 Red Robin Place, Winnipeg 12 BIRTLE-RUSSELL Harry E. Graham Binscarth, Manitoba BRAN DON EAST Hon. Leonard S. Evans Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 BRANDON WEST Edward McGill 2228 Princess Ave., Brandon, 1\ilan. BURROWS Hon. Ben Hanuschak 11 Aster Ave., Winnipeg 17 CHARLESWOOD Arthur Moug 29 Willow Ridge Rd., Winnipeg 20 CHURCHILL Gordon Wilbert Beard 103 Copper Rd., Thompson, Man. CR ESCE NTWOOD Cy Gonick 115 Kingsway, Winnipeg 9 DAUPHIN Hon. Peter Burtniak Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 ELMWOOD Russell J. Doern 104 Roberta Ave., Winnipeg 15 EMERSON Gabriel Girard 25 Lomond Blvd., St. Boniface 6 FUN FLON Thomas Barrow Cranberry Portage, Manitoba FORT GARRY L. R. (Bud) Sherman 86 Niagara St., Winnipeg 9 FORT ROUGE Mrs. Inez Trueman 179 Oxford St., Winnipeg 9 GIMLI John C. Gottfried 44- 3rd Ave., Gimli, Man. GLADSTONE James Robert Ferguson Gladstone, Manitoba INKSTER Hon. Sidney Green, Q.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 KILDONAN Peter Fox 627 Prince Rupert Ave., Winnipeg 15 LAC DU BONNET Hon. Sam Uskiw Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 LAKESIDE Harry J. Enns. Woodlands, Manitoba LA VERENDRYE Leonard A. Barkman Box 130, Steinbach, Man. LOGAN William Jenkins 1287 Alexander Ave., Winnipeg 3 MINNEDOSA Walter Weir Room 250, Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 MORRIS Warner H. Jorgenson Box 185, Morris, Man. OSBORNE lan Turnbull 284 Wildwood Park, Winnipeg 19 PEMBINA George Henderson Manitou, Manitoba POINT DOUGLAS Donald Malinowski 361 Burrows Ave., Winnipeg 4 PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE Gordon E. Johnston Room 248, Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 RADISSON Harry Shafransky 4 Maplehurst Rd., St. Boniface 6 RHINELAND Jacob M. Froese Box 40, Winkler, Manitoba RIEL Donald W. Craik 2 River Lane, Winnipeg 8 RIVER HEIGHTS Sidney Spivak, Q.C. 1516 Mathers Bay, West, Winnipeg 9 ROBLIN J. Wally McKenzie Inglis, Manitoba ROCK LAKE Henry J. Einarson Glenboro, Manitoba ROSSMERE Hon. Ed. Schreyer Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 RUPERTSLAND Jean Allard 119 Provencher Ave., St. Boniface 6 ST. BONIFACE Laurent L. Desjardins 357 Des Meurons St., St. Boniface 6 ST. GEORGE William Uruski Box 629, Arborg, Manitoba ST. JAMES Hon. A. H. Mackling, Q.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 ST. JOHNS Hon. Saul Cherniack, Q.C. Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 ST. MATTHEWS Wally Johannson 15-500 Burnell St., Winnipeg 10 ST. VITAL J. A. Hardy 11 Glenlawn Ave., Winnipeg 8 STE. ROSE Gildas Molgat 463 Kingston Crescent, Winnipeg 8 SELKIRK Hon. Howard Pawley Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 SEVEN OAKS Hon. Saul A. Miller Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 SOURIS-KILLARNEY Earl McKellar Nesbitt, Manitoba SPRINGFIELD Hon. Rene E. Toupin Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 STURGEON CREEK Frank Johnston 310 Overdale St., Winnipeg 12 SWAN RIVER James H. Bilton Swan River, Manitoba THE PAS Ron McBryde 56 Paul Ave., The Pas, Manitoba THOMPSON Hon. Joseph P. Borowski Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 TRANSCONA Hon. Russell Paulley Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 VIRDEN Morris McGregor Kenton, Manitoba WELLINGTON Hon. Philip Petursson Legislative Bldg., Winnipeg 1 WINNIPEG CENTRE J. R. (Bud) Hoyce 777 Winnipeg Ave., Winnipeg 3 WOLSELEY Leonard H. Claydon· 116'/:z Sherbrook St., Winnipeg 1 I 9.37 THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2:30 o'clock, Wednesday, April15, 1970 Opening Prayer by Mr. Speaker. MR. SPEAKER: Presenting Petitions; Reading and Receiving Petitions; Presenting Re­ j I ports by Standing and Special Committees. INTRODUCTION OF GUESTS MR. SPEAKER: At this point I should like to direct the attention of the honourable· members to the gallery where we have with us 25 students of Grade 11 standing of the Pine Falls Collegiate. These students are under the direction .of Mr. Kaushall and Mrs. Cook. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for Rupertsland. And 19 students of Grade 8 standing of the St. Emile School. These students are under the direction of Mrs. Angele Trudeau. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for Riel. Thirty students of Grade 9 standing of the West St. Paul School. These' students are under the direction of Mr. S. Pilman. This school is located in the constituency of the Honour­ able Minister for Municipal Affairs. And 16 students of an Upgrading Class of the· Elmwood High School. These students are under the direction of Mr. Rodin. This school is located in the constituency of the Honourable Member for Elmwood. On behalf of all the Honourable Members of the Legislative Assembly I welcome you here today. REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES MR. SPEAKER: Adjourned debate on the proposed motion of the Honourable Member for The Pas. The Honourable Minister of Mines and Natural Resources. HON. SIDNEY GREEN, Q.C. (Minister of Mines and Natural Resources)(Inkster): Mr. Speaker, I don't intend to say a great deal about this particular report. The members who have spoken have already indicated the nature of the Task Force work and the results that stem from it. I may say, Mr. Speaker, that I want to indicate to the House that I was not able to participate in the Task Force meetings outside of Greater Winnipeg as much as I would have liked to although I did attend some of them. I rise to speak really for one purpose and that is to disassociate my mm thinking with the remarks that were made by the members who spoke, the Member for Swan River and what I gather his remarks were and the Member for Portage la Prairie who have indicated that the .work of the committee is done and that is should not be reconstituted. At least that's what I gathered from what they said. Mr. Speaker, when the Task Force began its activities it was unanimously considered that the first phase of its operation would relate to the situation in isolated communities and the people of isolated communities and their problems. I for one feel that a fairly good job was done in getting the problems as articulated by the people and in assembling, and really it is only in assembling, in assembling the recommendations that came from various sources without any legislative stand being taken with regards to these recommendations, and I think that that's important, and that the first page of the Task Force Report indicates that the legisla­ tive committee took no position vis-a-vis any of the recommendations but let them come into the House as they were recommended by the Task Force. I ask members of the Hause to ap­ preciate that the Task Force was composed of all of the northern MLA's, four people who are closely associated with isolated communities and from the areas themselves, andlhen·three MLA' s who -- the Member for Swan River certainly could be classified as a northern MLA but the Member for Portage and myself would not be classified as northern MLA's -- and we recognized when this report was being assembled that it was coming from a group of people closely associated with the people who had been articulating their differences. I think that the list of recommendations is a very meaningful one and one which the government is going to look very seriously towards dealing with and there will be before this session of the Legislature matters which affect the democratic life of the communities in northern Manitoba. And I think; Mr. Speaker, without attempting to either colour or discolour the situation that that's fairly good action on recommendations from a committee that was just established last fall. But I _j' emphasize that this was agreed upon by all of the members including the citizen members Of the report as constituting the first phase of the Northern Task Force's responsibility, and that is to obtain the views of people in the north and essentially in isolated communities. And every- body knows that that's exactly what was done. But the notion of having a task force on northern affairs was much more encompassing 938 April 15, 1970 (MR. GREEN cont'd. ). than merely to deal with those particular problems. The whole aspect of northern development generally and the economic future of the north and a northern development plan are part and parcel of the kind of subject that the Northern Task Force was set up for, and I know that several members, including particularly the Member for Ruperts­ land, felt that that should be part of the first phase of the Northern Task Force report but he went along with the others on the suggestion that it would be wise to deal with the isolated com­ munities' problem first. But having dealt with that problem I for one, and I believe that the members of the House should not feel that this represents the total recommendation that is necessary for attemtping to deal with the northern problem. And for that reason, Mr. Speaker, I am going to certainly be asking the government, and I hope the House, to give immediate con­ sideration to the recommendation of the Task Force itself, that it be reconstituted and I think that this recommendation indicates that the Force and the Legislative Committee did not con­ sider that the work had been completed and that there is nothing left to be studied. Certainly the..... MR. JAMES H. BILTON (Swan River): On a point of privilege, Mr. Speaker, so that there be no misunderstanding. I was one of that group that agreed that the committee be re­ constituted, but I changed my mind.
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