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LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 10605 OFFICIAL RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS Wednesday, 23 May 2018 The Council met at thirty-two minutes past Eleven o'clock MEMBERS PRESENT: THE PRESIDENT THE HONOURABLE ANDREW LEUNG KWAN-YUEN, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JAMES TO KUN-SUN THE HONOURABLE LEUNG YIU-CHUNG THE HONOURABLE ABRAHAM SHEK LAI-HIM, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE TOMMY CHEUNG YU-YAN, G.B.S., J.P. PROF THE HONOURABLE JOSEPH LEE KOK-LONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE JEFFREY LAM KIN-FUNG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WONG TING-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STARRY LEE WAI-KING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAK-KAN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN KIN-POR, G.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE PRISCILLA LEUNG MEI-FUN, S.B.S., J.P. 10606 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 THE HONOURABLE WONG KWOK-KIN, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MRS REGINA IP LAU SUK-YEE, G.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE PAUL TSE WAI-CHUN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CLAUDIA MO THE HONOURABLE MICHAEL TIEN PUK-SUN, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE STEVEN HO CHUN-YIN, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE FRANKIE YICK CHI-MING, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE WU CHI-WAI, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YIU SI-WING, B.B.S. THE HONOURABLE MA FUNG-KWOK, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHARLES PETER MOK, J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHI-CHUEN THE HONOURABLE CHAN HAN-PAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE LEUNG CHE-CHEUNG, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LEUNG THE HONOURABLE ALICE MAK MEI-KUEN, B.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE KWOK KA-KI THE HONOURABLE KWOK WAI-KEUNG, J.P. THE HONOURABLE DENNIS KWOK WING-HANG LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 10607 THE HONOURABLE CHRISTOPHER CHEUNG WAH-FUNG, S.B.S., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE FERNANDO CHEUNG CHIU-HUNG DR THE HONOURABLE HELENA WONG PIK-WAN THE HONOURABLE IP KIN-YUEN DR THE HONOURABLE ELIZABETH QUAT, B.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE MARTIN LIAO CHEUNG-KONG, S.B.S., J.P. THE HONOURABLE POON SIU-PING, B.B.S., M.H. DR THE HONOURABLE CHIANG LAI-WAN, J.P. IR DR THE HONOURABLE LO WAI-KWOK, S.B.S., M.H., J.P. THE HONOURABLE CHUNG KWOK-PAN THE HONOURABLE ALVIN YEUNG THE HONOURABLE ANDREW WAN SIU-KIN THE HONOURABLE CHU HOI-DICK THE HONOURABLE JIMMY NG WING-KA, J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE JUNIUS HO KWAN-YIU, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HO KAI-MING THE HONOURABLE LAM CHEUK-TING THE HONOURABLE HOLDEN CHOW HO-DING THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-FAI 10608 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 THE HONOURABLE SHIU KA-CHUN THE HONOURABLE WILSON OR CHONG-SHING, M.H. THE HONOURABLE YUNG HOI-YAN DR THE HONOURABLE PIERRE CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHAN CHUN-YING THE HONOURABLE TANYA CHAN THE HONOURABLE CHEUNG KWOK-KWAN, J.P. THE HONOURABLE HUI CHI-FUNG THE HONOURABLE LUK CHUNG-HUNG THE HONOURABLE LAU KWOK-FAN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE KENNETH LAU IP-KEUNG, B.B.S., M.H., J.P. DR THE HONOURABLE CHENG CHUNG-TAI THE HONOURABLE KWONG CHUN-YU THE HONOURABLE JEREMY TAM MAN-HO THE HONOURABLE GARY FAN KWOK-WAI THE HONOURABLE AU NOK-HIN THE HONOURABLE VINCENT CHENG WING-SHUN, M.H. THE HONOURABLE TONY TSE WAI-CHUEN, B.B.S. LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 10609 PUBLIC OFFICERS ATTENDING: THE HONOURABLE NICHOLAS W. YANG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY THE HONOURABLE LAU KONG-WAH, J.P. SECRETARY FOR HOME AFFAIRS DR THE HONOURABLE LAW CHI-KWONG, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR LABOUR AND WELFARE THE HONOURABLE FRANK CHAN FAN, J.P. SECRETARY FOR TRANSPORT AND HOUSING DR CHUI TAK-YI, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH, AND SECRETARY FOR FOOD AND HEALTH THE HONOURABLE EDWARD YAU TANG-WAH, G.B.S., J.P. SECRETARY FOR COMMERCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MR ANDY CHAN SHUI-FU, J.P. UNDER SECRETARY FOR CONSTITUTIONAL AND MAINLAND AFFAIRS CLERKS IN ATTENDANCE: MR KENNETH CHEN WEI-ON, S.B.S., SECRETARY GENERAL MISS ODELIA LEUNG HING-YEE, DEPUTY SECRETARY GENERAL MS DORA WAI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL MR MATTHEW LOO, ASSISTANT SECRETARY GENERAL 10610 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Council now holds the regular meeting of 23 May 2018. TABLING OF PAPERS The following papers were laid on the table under Rule 21(2) of the Rules of Procedure: Subsidiary Legislation/Instruments L.N. No. Schedule of Routes (Citybus Limited) Order 2018 ........... 83/2018 Schedule of Routes (Citybus Limited) (North Lantau and Hong Kong International Airport) Order 2018 ...... 84/2018 Schedule of Routes (Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited) Order 2018 .............................................. 85/2018 Schedule of Routes (Long Win Bus Company Limited) Order 2018 ........................................................................ 86/2018 Schedule of Routes (New Lantao Bus Company (1973) Limited) Order 2018 .............................................. 87/2018 Schedule of Routes (New World First Bus Services Limited) Order 2018 ............................................................. 88/2018 Inland Revenue (Double Taxation Relief and Prevention of Tax Evasion with respect to Taxes on Income) (Kingdom of Saudi Arabia) Order ......................... 89/2018 Merchant Shipping (Prevention and Control of Pollution) (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 .................. 90/2018 Merchant Shipping (Control of Ballast Water and Sediments) Regulation .............................................................. 91/2018 Merchant Shipping (Control of Pollution by Noxious Liquid Substances in Bulk) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 ........................................................................ 92/2018 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 10611 Merchant Shipping (BCH Code) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 ........................................................................ 93/2018 Merchant Shipping (IBC Code) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 ........................................................................ 94/2018 Land Survey (Fees) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 .......... 95/2018 Securities and Futures (Amendment) Ordinance 2016 (Commencement) Notice ........................................ 96/2018 Securities and Futures (Open-ended Fund Companies) Rules ....................................................................... 97/2018 Securities and Futures (Open-ended Fund Companies) (Fees) Regulation ............................................................... 98/2018 Securities and Futures (Professional Investor) (Amendment) Rules 2018 .............................................................. 99/2018 Declaration of Mental Hospital (Consolidation) (Amendment) Order 2018 ...................................... 100/2018 Banking (Exposure Limits) Rules ...................................... 101/2018 Banking (Amendment) Ordinance 2018 (Commencement) Notice 2018 ............................................................. 102/2018 Telecommunications (Designation of Frequency Bands subject to Payment of Spectrum Utilization Fee) (Amendment) Order 2018 ...................................... 103/2018 Telecommunications (Level of Spectrum Utilization Fees) (Second Generation Mobile Services) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 ...................................................... 104/2018 Telecommunications (Determining Spectrum Utilization Fees by Auction) (Amendment) Regulation 2018 .......... 105/2018 Telecommunications (Method for Determining Spectrum Utilization Fee) (Administratively Assigned Spectrum in the 1800 MHz Band) Regulation........................ 106/2018 10612 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS PRESIDENT (in Cantonese): Questions. First question. Collection of handling charges from persons purchasing tickets online 1. MR KWONG CHUN-YU (in Cantonese): President, currently, members of the public are required to pay a handling charge ranging from $6 to $10 when purchasing event or movie tickets through the websites or mobile phone applications of ticketing agencies, a majority of cinema circuits and the Urban Ticketing System ("URBTIX") under the Leisure and Cultural Services Department. However, they are not required to pay such a handling charge when purchasing tickets in person at the box offices. Some members of the public are of the view that the ratio of the relevant handling charge to ticket price is rather high, and the practice of collecting handling charge impedes the development of Hong Kong into a smart city. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council: (1) of the justifications for URBTIX for not collecting a handling charge at present from persons who purchase tickets through their counters, but collecting a handling charge of $8 per ticket from those who purchase tickets through its website, mobile phone application and telephone booking hotline, and whether the authorities will consider ceasing the collection of such charge; (2) whether it will consider regulating the practice of ticketing agencies, cinema circuits, etc. collecting a handling charge from persons who purchase tickets online, such as stipulating the ceiling on the ratio of the handling charge to the ticket price; and (3) whether it will consider introducing measures to reduce traders' costs for providing electronic ticketing services, so that they do not have to pass on the relevant costs to the consumers, as well as to promote the development of Hong Kong into a smart city? SECRETARY FOR INNOVATION AND TECHNOLOGY (in Cantonese): President, after consulting the Home Affairs Bureau, the Commerce and Economic Development Bureau, the Leisure and Cultural Services Department ("LCSD"), we set out our response to the three parts of the question as below: LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ― 23 May 2018 10613 (1) The Urban Ticketing System ("URBTIX") is the ticketing system under LCSD to provide ticketing services mainly for hirers or