SATURDAY, MAY 13, 2017 DAILY EXCELSIOR, JAMMU

daily Dr.Sudershan Kumar stakeholders should adopt strict and focused road map for dousing the Excelsior ituated on the top of the Indi- fire in valley. At the same Established 1965 an mainland like a crown of Kashmir valley is in turmoil time there should also be a hard hit- Sjewels,Kashmir once known ting, tough and exemplary punish- protagonists? What has gone Thirdly, various terrorist organ- through vocal remarks of using the withdrawal of US troops from Founder Editor S.D. Rohmetra as the "paradise on the earth" has ment approach towards rogue wrong? The need of the hour is that, izations created for fighting in nuclear weapons. Hope they under- Afghanistan, Pakistani Army and now been transfigured into a valley neighbour Pakistan in many ways. Government of along with the Afghanistan against the invasion of stand and are aware of the effects of ISI again resorted to large scale ter- of violent protests where stone pelt- * Govt. of India must re look ing, communal clashes, burning of other stakeholders should evolve a Soviet troops and to create trouble nuclear warfare before making such ror funding in India. Don't play with students career FMS status accorded to Pakistan schools, looting of banks, snatching comprehensive approach towards in Kashmir valley have turned their thoughtless and imprudent state- Recently Pakistan got a new specially after the barbaric act of of arms have become routine occur- Jammu and Kashmir state to allevi- guns against the Pakistani authori- ments. They should be well aware spate of unrest in the valley that actually opportunity to give spark to its anti beheading of two Indian soldiers. rences while converting it into a ate the vulnerable and volatile situ- ties. They openly talk about shariat of the repercussions that if they try India campaign after the killing of * All Pakistani TV channels be began in summer 2016 and has been resur- breeding ground for religious ation in Kashmir. It is a well per- law in that country. Hence raking of this misadventure ,they may even dreaded terrorist and Hizbul jammed immediately and strict facing intermittently, carries the disappoint- fanaticism. This is by virtue of Pak- ceived fact that Pakistani army and the Kashmir issue facilitates in pur- be wiped out from the world map. Mujahideen commander Bhuran A action be initiated against those who istani sponsored terrorism which it its Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) suing some sort of stability in their Lastly, most significant, thought Wani on 6th July 2016 in an ing aspect of student involvement in law and order violate the orders. is doing to keep the issue alive and have been deeply involved in country. worthy and note worthy is the sup- encounter at Kokernag. Bhuran * Exemplary punishment to disruption phenomenon. The State is deeply con- at the same time highlighting the fomenting trouble in Kashmir val- Fourthly, by reinvigorating ter- port extended by China to Pakistan Wani had extensively used social Pakistan if again it tries to misad- cerned about the academic and psychological loss unrest in the valley at the interna- ley. Therefore, Govt. of India should rorism in Kashmir, Pakistani army in thwarting the Indian proposal to media to come out as a poster boy venture with India at Line of control tional arena; Pakistani Hawks are rework its policy towards Pakistan and its ISI facilitate themselves to get Maulana (Prime among local youths.Therefore, his that student involvement in the acts of lawlessness or at Inter national border. Indian using Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT) and keeping in view its nefarious enjoy special privileges. It consid- suspect and mastermind of death triggered massive protests in masses now demand a more deci- inflicts on them. The student of today is the builder (HM) and other designs. ers itself as the final arbiter of Pak- Pathankot airbase attack) declared Kashmir. The religious radicaliza- sive action. of the future of the State. But he can build the future terrorists organizations as their The reasons for unrest in the val- istan's politics with regard to India as international terrorist by exercis- tion acted as a catalyst for begin- * All political parties both at of the State only when he first builds his own strategic assets. Once equated as the ley are manifold. The first reason and has practically taken over the ing Veto power against the propos- ning of home grown insurgency. abode of secularism by our beloved can be dated to partition when Pak- control of Pakistan's policy making. al in United Nation Assembly. This national and regional level should career. Involvement in violent public demonstra- This was also the beginning of new father of the nation,Kashmir's istan was created as an insecure state They also spend mammoth amount has further fortified Pakistan to car- era of full scale video warfare speak with one voice in handling tions means that the students at various levels from extravagant beauty has been on the name of religion. This coun- of their budget on modernization of ry subversive activities against through extensive use of internet volatile situation in Kashmir val- try was much smaller in size as com- admired by all. Tourists across the troops. Hence keeping Kashmir India especially in Kashmir valley. ,face book and uploading of false ley.It is right time to shed vote bank schools to university have to miss their lessons pared to India. Therefore, it contem- world visit Kashmir valley and issue alive is their motto otherwise Therefore it can be well made video images containing inflamma- and appeasement politics .Efforts because disruption of law and order forces author- plated India as an eternal foe and a enjoy the picturesque beauty spots their powers will be curtailed. out that the rulers in Pakistan have tory speeches against security agen- should be made by all for creation with a myriad of breath taking menace with a feeling that India is ities to shut down the schools for security reasons. Fifth, Pakistan has acquired always remained steadfast in evolv- cies at the behest of masters in Pak- of opportunities for younger gener- views of snow capped mountains, indomitable and when the opportu- nuclear weapons with the support of ing an anti India policy right from istan. As per reports,it is alarming ations from all the three regions viz Losing one or two semesters means losing an aca- floura and fauna and not to forget nity arises ,would destroy Pakistan. China.This has further emboldened its inception. Pakistan army and its and note worthy for all including Jammu, Ladakh and Kashmir demic year, something which ordinary citizens can- the hospitality of . Since To overcome this perception of them to create trouble not only in ISI have always looked for oppor- security agencies that the successor through development. not afford. Time matters in the process of academ- time immemorial ,people of differ- external insecurity, Pakistan has valley but also in other parts of the tunities to enkindle a vicious anti- The workers of all political par- pursued guerrilla warfare, proxy of Bhuran Wani, has adopted a more ent religions are living together in country. Therefore, attacks, on India sentiment and create trouble ties at grass root level must reach ic pursuits. Not only the Governor but the warfare, terrorism, low intensity dangerous approach towards the peace here. Presence of Pathankot air base, army camp at in the valley by all possible means. out to public for addressing their conflicts and three full scale wars explosive situation in valley. In his Government at large and the sensible civil society Shankaracharya temple on the top Uri and on Indian Parliament are the Eventually they succeeded after issues and for counseling and cur- of a hill and relics in the Hazratbal against India. The reason behind speeches he is encouraging the in the valley, all are greatly concerned on a phe- glaring examples of this. Pakistani 1987 J&K State assembly elections tailing Pakistani propaganda rather shrine located in the heart of the city, this is to force India for some con- stone pelters to fight and pelt stones army and its border action in creating unrest in the valley by than criticizing each other. nomenon in the valley that prompts the students to speaks about the secular fabric of cessions on Kashmir, which the team(BAT) have always tried to for the cause of Islam and establish- imparting training to local youths, Terror funds must be frozen and come out on the streets, participate in anti- Kashmir valley. Therefore one must Government of India has strongly escalate the tension along LOC and ment of Kashmir Islamic state sim- pushing Afghan missionaries and the law and and order be maintained. introspect into what went wrong negated at each level. IB. Frequent ceasefire violations ilar in line with ISIS. If it is to be Government demonstrations, pelt stones at securi- inciting the public for violent The above measures are that the same Kashmir is now burn- Secondly, by raising the Kash- and incidents of beheading of our believed then it is a right time for all protests.This unrest is going on for absolutely indispensable to prevent ty forces and cause damage to public property. All ing amidst resentment, animosity, mir issue over the years, the rulers soldiers were the classic examples intellectuals and Kashmir con- the situation from further deteriora- this activity leads to disruption of law and order in distrust, communal hatred and vio- in Pakistan desire to instill nation- of their evil intentions for carrying more than twenty nine years. Prior cerned institutions to make masses to this there was a lull period as Pak- tion. the State. No responsible Government can allow lent protests with video warfare. alism in the agiatating Sindh out such dastardly acts. Ironically aware of the horrors committed by Therefore one needs to find the Province, Balochistan and Gilgit those sitting at the helm of affairs in istani army was busy supporting the ISIS in Syria and Iraq. (The author is former Director General this situation to go on indefinitely. The solution lies answers to the questions.What are Baltisan and also to overshadow the Pakistan intimidate India against US led collision forces in their oper- Therefore it is high time that the DRDO & Special Secretary MoD GoI) in interacting with the students, listening to their the reasons? Who are the hidden poor development in these areas. any retaliation by Indian forces ations against Talibans. But after Govt. of India along with other [email protected] grievances and finding a remedy if these griev- Hashim Qureshi India and Pakistan to settle their dif- ances are genuine. No Government wants the ferences including Kashmir issue wo security functionaries Kashmir moving towards Civil War ? through dialogue. Oppression has no security forces to be harsh in dealing with defiant from a private security firm impression that freedom movement valley closer. ers and corrupt officers. The irony is In 2010 their coalition was eyes. People on both sides of Kash- students. Tattached to J&K Bank and mir should also have the freedom of should not be damaged. I must make Government of India says that that the ministers elected from Jam- responsible for the killing of 127 In this background, the Governor, after the five personnel of local Kashmiri meeting with one another within the police post have been murdered by the prediction that if J&K police are out of the package of 80000 crore mu region have confined their activ- youth on the streets of SrinagarFor Durbar move, has initiated series of consultations driven to the wall, in that case even rupees it has so far during the past ities to Jammu region alone. The six long months the state became the State. All violent activities happen- militants. According to the com- ing on the border should be stopped. with senior administrative and premier educational mands of the Holy Prophet which I non-violent movement will become one year and more released nearly coalition government is not trying to place of butchery and loot and arson difficult. We know that some black 20,000 crore rupees to the State. This bring people of different faiths and at the hands of these party workers. But if both the countries have lost institutions' authorities to discuss the situation and fully endorse it is tantamount to common sense then they may go for killing humanity. They were return- sheep within the police force are is not a small sum in one year. Where religions closer and actually it dis- Today they shamelessly call stone find out some methodology of saving the career of defaming the organization. has this huge sum of twenty thou- tances them from one another. throwers as the soldiers of freedom. war. Let both of them take the step ing after depositing cash and thus of destroying all the people of the young college and university going students. The performing their duty. They were I would like to reiterate that sand crore rupees gone? Was any Extremism is promoting unemploy- They are asking for solving Kashmir Kashmir issue cannot be solved by mega power generation plant estab- ment. The government does not give issue. But Kashmiri nation can ask sub continent in one go instead of basics of this discourse are that the educational actually travelling. One of the mur- killing and massacring young and dered policemen was father of six resorting to violence from any par- lished? 90 per cent roads of the State Utilization Certificate of any cen- them what role they played when career of student should be protected and not ty. Tension has escalated on Indo- are all potholes and worn out unwor- trally sponsored project. Orders of they were in power. They should not old on both sides of the dividing line kids. Amurdered sub-inspector who in intermittent violent actions. Go in allowed to go waste. There are some anti-social was to retire within two months was Pak border and the two troops are thy of being called a metalled road. High Court are either not imple- forget what oppression they exerted attacking each other’s posts and Big water bodies have become mented or implemented only half on the people and now they are seek- for an outright war and emerge van- elements who would not want the students to a God-fearing man dutifully observ- quished or victorious whatever the ing prayers and fasting. Another killing soldiers. It could well esca- cesspools and burial ground for dead heartedly. Senior bureaucrats when ing power to revive their policy of remain glued to their studies and become the late to war between them. An action animals. One may have a look at called by the High Court for depos- suppression and oppression of the case once for all. Let the people of murdered policeman was the sole the subcontinent live or die once and future builders of Kashmir. caretaker of his father a cancer performed in state of anger can spark Wular or Dal or Manasbal lakes and ing in court cases submit ambiguous people. the flames of war. Pakistan cannot see for oneself their pitiable and lam- and misleading reports. Thousands Let me recount what were the not time and again. Besides conveying his concerns to the Chief patient. Instead of humiliating people in Fighters of Islamic war and capture Kashmir by extending sup- entable condition. Tourism has been of vacancies are left unfilled. gifts of Congress-NC regime for the Secretary and Director General of Police, the port to militants or by sending cross given in the charge of a notoriously Accountability organizations are people of the State. These were the name of democracy, instead of founders of Caliphate aver that they pouring all the funds in the pockets Governor held extensive discussions with Chief killed five policemen but not the border infiltrators to attack military corrupt person and the entire indus- made toothless, framing black rules of oppression camps or by attacking a specific tar- try is almost on the verge of collapse. An atmosphere of threat prevails and tyranny, spreading unemploy- of political leaders Governor’s rule Minister Mehbooba Mufti two days earlier in which bank employees. All of them were should be imposed for the purpose butchered in one van. Do the Hizbul get. Indian security forces cannot Protesting students are made targets everywhere in the valley and police ment, nepotism and bribery, illegal- he had particularly urged her to take all required find a solution of Kashmir issue by of police batons, bullets, pallet guns, think that only bullets and pallet gun ly grabbing state lands and grass- of development and progress. Why Mujahedeen activists think that political parties be pampered in the steps for ensuring that the students' community is Kashmiris are so naive not to under- showing vengeance against Kash- and tear gas shells. By involving can set things right. By allowing lands and converting these as private miris. In a prospect of Indo-Pak war, innocent students among stone baton and PSA and bullet to be free estates, destroying educational insti- name of democracy when they do immunised against any involvement in law and stand their all lies? All I can say is not deserve it. Talks should be that these gun wielders will meet the hundreds of thousands of people throwers the black sheep among the the state is fast heading towards tutes, facilitating bribery and cor- order situation. Students at all levels generally on either side will be killed, hun- police have devised a source of extra decline in all walks of life. ruption, torturing the innocent in resumed with Pakistan. Interface same fate that befell those who had between the people of the state show great regard for their teachers and heads of taken up the gun in 1990. dreds of thousands will become dis- income for themselves. Many cor- Opposition plays very negative prisons, deploying incompetent per- abled and economically both the rupt officers have been given plum role. It is said that Congress and NC sons in different departments instead should be initiated. By imposing the institutions. The Governor has very rightly The nation is undergoing great Governor’s rule at least corruption suffering for last 27 years. A few countries will get destroyed to the post just because they can manoeu- have inducted all their means in the of competent persons, destroying emphasized upon the Vice Chancellors of the extent that recovery may take vre it through personal favours and phenomenon of stone throwing and the Dal and the Wular lakes, taking has to be halted and funds have to be days prior to these killings a grenade utilized for constructive and devel- Universities that the faculties and various adminis- blast in Khanyar vicinity claimed the decades or centuries. Therefore to clout. Millions of rupees are embez- fomenting of unrest. These two par- resort to load shedding instead of escape the calamity of destruction zled under one pretext or the other ties have always treated the people making use of enormous power gen- opmental works. People of the State trative organs like Deans, Heads of Department, life of a citizen. A driver was killed have seen worst type of suppression by stone throwing. All of them were the two countries should begin talks like development, education of the state nothing short of cattle erating potential of the state, dis- senior professors and teachers have the moral without loss of time. reforms, providing facilities to the stock and imposed tyrannical laws couraging industries and pushing the and loot in the name of so-called Kashmiris. The day is not far off democracy. This was the scenario in responsibility of guiding the students along right when civil war will break out here Two political parties PDP and people, support to medical treatment on the people. These members of state to darkness, and making it a BJP have the mandate of the people all fake and shady. On the ground Congress and National Conference consumer state. Main stream politi- the past and it is the scenario now. path. The teachers can remove confusions and and human blood will spill in streets Be noor ho chuki hai bahut and lanes. People are very angry on of two regions of the State. Forma- there is no trace of any development. are the people who instead of pro- cal parties also have a role in this misunderstandings created by vested interest tion of coalition government is gen- State exchequer is used not for viding water, electricity and jobs to huge saga of devastation. They lick shahr ki fiza these murders. It is a different thing Tareek rastun main kahin kho among the student community. And of course inter- that people do not come out on the uine. It could have become the providing facilities to the people but the people forced them into black the feet of Delhi rulers an activity in instrument of bringing the people of for suppressing them and for provid- holes of poverty, destitution and which they vie with one another. na jayen ham vention of the teaching faculties will certainly yield streets in protest of these killings [email protected] owing either to threat or under the the two regions namely Jammu and ing munificence to the party work- darkness. We would sincerely suggest positive results. The Governor has very rightly got into touch with the heads of the institutions and had Ram Rattan Sharma insurance and right to reverse unfair dismissal through appeal. a long discussion on the subject with the Education o exploit the demographic Recent times have seen more Minister on who rests the onus of counselling the dividend, India needs to Labour Reforms in India determined and patient attempts student community and weaning them away from Tmeet the growing needs of of Labour reforms by the Govt. at those entering Labour force. ducive, contradictory and outdat- than 100 workers to obtain per- retrench. Farming being a season- them from expanding in to big the centre. Government's moves acts of violence usually instigated by wrong politi- Labour regulations have been ed Labour laws have been ham- mission of the state Government al activity, requirement of Labour scale enterprises, they also do not towards Labour reforms are faced cal activities. If this process is extended and more reported to a significant barrier to pering the cause of faster growth in order to retrench or lay off fluctuates according to the season- provide them any encouragement with increased opposition from and more visits from responsible authorities to the growth and employment genera- of industries and enterprises in the worker. Section 9A of the Indian al variations in farm practices. to recruit Labourers formally. This the trade unions and the pol par- tion. They have been called regu- country in more than one way. dispute act lays out the procedures Labour inclined Labour laws of is why most of these units are man- ties. Several good moves have schools in rural areas and meeting with the village latory cholesterol holding up The increased use of capital that must be followed by employ- India deter corporate investment aging their activities with the help come in this regard such as elders continues, it can have considerable impact India's real economic potential. intensive techniques is reflected in ers before changing the terms and in the sector - whether they enter of informal Labourers. This not arrangement of health insurance on law and order situation in the valley. India has been advised to give top a steeply rising capital/Labour conditions of work, which intro- as corporate farmers or contract only hampers the growth and for the labourers of the unorgan- priority to the issue of Labour ratio for the organized economy. duces additional rigidities for farmers, the same Labour laws development of these industries, it ized sector, pension schemes reforms by the chief economist, This raises the obvious question: firms in using their existing work- will apply. also breeds high level of uncer- amendment in the apprentice ship Woes of handicapped persons World bank . Similar opinions can whether it is justifiable for a rela- ers effectively in particular, work- Industry: Arapid expansion of tainty of job among the informal law, Launch of the unified labour be seen emerging at the NITI lec- tively Labour abundant country er consent is required in order to the manufacturing sector has been Labourers. portal, employees insurance nfortunately we have large groups of differ- tures transforming India. Econo- like India with low wages, to be modify job descriptions or move a key element of the growth expe- In India reforms are typically scheme digitization of the EPF, ently handicapped persons in the country mists have been arguing that India increasingly resorting to more workers from one plant to anoth- rience of successful developing implemented only after they have changes in the bonus laws and has a large number of Labour capital intensive technology. er in response to changing market countries, especially Labour been subjected to a lot of debate and in the State. Most of them are naturally reforms related to employment U laws, which at times, create con- Countries would use more capital conditions. Indian Labour laws abundant ones. In this context, the and after some kind of political benefits of the contract labourers handicapped. We are sorry that they are unable to fusion. Besides the country has per worker as they get richer but have been hampering different Indian manufacturing sector consensus is reached on them. It being the major ones. Any pro- reap the full fruit of a successful life. However, a moved very slowly in the areas of the capital intensity is higher and sectors of the economy in a big exhibits many peculiarities. It is therefore imperative that con- posal by Govt. to reform the reforming laws. The Govt. of has increased at a much faster rate way. Agriculture sector is being contributes a rather small and sensus building on Labour market labour laws is interpreted by the welfare State is bound by moral law to provide India has committed to Labour for large firms than it has for small hampered the most due to the stagnant share to GDP; its compo- reforms should start soon. It may labour unions as a move to com- them additional succour to make their life comfort- reforms in the first as well the sec- firms in India even while they absence of the requisite Labour sition is more skewed towards take time to make polconsensus promise with their job security able. There are many such people as have been ond generations of the economic have created fewer jobs. India's laws. In the year 2000, Govt. of skill and capital intensive activi- for fundamental reforms. In the finally leading to retrenchment. reforms process. But various Gov- Labour regulations have been crit- India announced some major ties compared to countries at sim- meantime time, states could be Job security has been a thorny rendered immoveable. The Social Welfare ernments have not been able to icized on many grounds including changes in this sector-gave it the ilar levels of development, only a allowed more flexibility to exper- issue in other countries, too. It is Department comes to their rescue and occasional- affect the kind of Labour reforms their sheer size and scope, com- categorization of industry allowed small share of employment in iment without coming into con- believed that in the absence of cer- ly and intermittently provides them some relief in which are required by the devel- plexity, and inconsistencies across contract and corporate farming manufacturing is in the organized flict with central statues. Rigid tain degree of safety net available oping economy. Again there are regulations. There are 45 different etc. But the sector has failed to sector accounted for almost 70% labour laws are determined to be to the workers enacting the right one way or the other. many areas where the govern- national and state level Labour attract any big investment either of total manufacturing employ- the key constraining factor in the kind of labour reforms will be Recently a camp was held by the Social Welfare ments have not been able to even legislations in India. The Labour as corporate or contract. Experts ment in 2009-10 and employment creation of productive jobs. Exist- quite detrimental to the socio pol Department at Dak Bungalow in Baramulla. A large start the process. The industrial laws apply only to the organized blame the Labour laws of the is heavily concentrated in small ing permanent workers can con- conditions of the country. Taking communities together with work- sector as the size of the factory country for this. In addition to the firms. The degree of concentration tinue till retirement with their clues from the global experience number of disabled persons from the entire district ers in trading & small & medium grows, it increasingly becomes smooth, transparent and hassle is much higher than in other Asian privileges left untouched. The experts suggest the Govt. to first had assembled there. But most of them com- enterprises have been complain- subject to more legislation. A few free land acquisition and con- countries. remaining workers could be put in place an effective bankrupt- encouraged to move into contrac- plained that the department was not paying heed to ing about the urgent need for specific pieces of the legislation tract/lease laws, the most impor- Services: Most of the service cy law and unemployment benefit Labour reforms in India. Experts are particularly constraining. tant ingredient that the country sector enterprises in India are in tual employment that can be ter- schemes for the workers. their request for a three-wheeler mobile apparatus and economists have pointed out According to chapter VB of the lacks is the right kind of Labour smaller or medium scale category, minated but which gives the work- (The author is former Dy Librarian to enable them move around. The complaint was many areas where the non con- industrial disputes act, it is neces- laws. Though recruiting Labour the non conducive Labour laws of ers some protection , including University of Jammu) severance pay, unemployment that the department has not regulated system of sary for firms employing more is not tough in India, it is tough to the country not only discourage [email protected] offering the vehicle to the differently disabled per- sons of the district. Many of them complained that Rising unemployment they had been knocking at the door of the depart- Sir, Rural road connectivity ment for several years but there was no response. Rising unemployment among Jammu and Kashmir is a matter of great concern. This can Some even complained that whenever they tried to be ascertained from the fact that huge number of unemployed youth turn up at recruitment ral- Sir, visit the authorities in department, they were lies- whether police or army. There was a huge number of applicants for class-IV post in a This has reference to the news item 'Massive road upgradation programme to be launched across J&K' DE thrown out by the functionaries. recently advertisement. There is dearth of jobs in Government sector, so is the case with pri- May 11. The decision of the State Government to upgrade road network in the State on a large scale is more vate sector. than welcome. The upgradation will not only improve road connectivity in the area but will also generate We entreat upon the Social Welfare Department The private sector has not flourished much in the State due to a variety of reasons. The main employment opportunities in the city. to treat these people with sympathy and care. They being the emergence of militancy in the State. It crippled almost every employment sector The road connectivity should be given thrust in rural areas, particularly of Kishtwar and Bhaderwah regions. are part of our society and we cannot be harsh and whether tourism or industrial. The tourism sector which is the mainstay of State's economy is The people of Doda region are suffering terribly on account of poor road network. There is not a single day unsympathetic to them. They are already bearing passing through a bad phase even at present when there is some semblance of normalcy in the when no accident occurs on roads of this region. These killer roads need to be widened and mettaled to make the wrath of the nature and we human beings State. The unrest in valley has hit tourism sector in almost all the three provinces of the State. journey risk free. The city roads receive much attention as compared to rural areas. The roads that have been Though Leh has escaped unhurt partially, the Government must explore every possibility constructed need to maintained on daily basis by employing some people for this job. should not add to their miseries. We hope the to create job opportunities for the youth of the State. Unemployment is a curse and it should The concerned minister has rightly said that improved road communication and education are vital to the socio- Social Welfare Department will streamline its func- not affect the future of our State. economic growth of a community. So there should be no delay in improving road connectivity in rural areas. tionality and do justice to all the deserving people Yours etc... Yours etc... in this category. Vinod Jamwal Ajit Singh Jammu Poonch