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Descendants of John Prentice, the Laird… Descendants of John PRENTICE, the Laird of Stane 2/23/2011 Descendants of John Prentice, the Laird… Descendants of John PRENTICE, the Laird of Stane Information about my Prentice connection is rather sparse, so in addition to examining the early parish registers and Sasines, I have made several educated guesses. This genealogy is six generations. For information about more recent generations, visit < www.karen.blacksgenealogy.com > This genealogy is intended for personal use only. Please contact me at [email protected] if you have anything to contribute. Generation No. 1 1. John1 PRENTICE died Abt. 1660. Notes for John PRENTICE: Early marriage registers for Cambusnethan, Lanark, Scotland, confirm several Prentice heads of families during the mid-1600s, including Henry who married Janet Smallie, Robert and "Prenteis, John...last servitor to James Waddel,in Middest of Wadstone, par. of Cambusnethan, 5 Feb 1658." (Source: Commisariot of Glasgow 1547...1800). Henry, Robert and John may have been brothers. The Prentices probably came from England to Scotland with Oliver Cromwell. John Prentice, later known as the Laird of Stone (Stane), resided in Cambusnethan, Scotland. This "John Prentice...by extraordinary prowess and personal bravery, having saved the life of (John) Lockhart, one of Cromwell's generals, was by him presented with the lands of Thorn (in Carluke, Lanark, Scotland), at nominal quit-rent, as an acknowledgment of his gratitude. He afterwards held a subordinate office at Dunkirk (France), when that important fortress was reluctantly yielded up by Lockhart at the restoration, so that he was among the last who submitted to Charles the Second..." (Source: The Life of Alexander Reid, Written by Himself and Edited by Archibald Prentice, His Great-Grandson, 3rd ed., Manchester, England, c.1822, rep. 1829; extracted from Archibald Prentice's footnote, p.33.) Other sources also refer to the Laird of Thorn: "During the French/Spanish Wars of Succession, Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector, sent, in June 1658, an expedition of 6,000 veteran English soldiers, under Marshall Turenne, and they defeated the Spanish in the Battle of the Dunes, capturing the port of Dunkirk, which was then put under siege by the Spanish. From what we are told in the Black Book, Sir John Prentice played an important role in this campaign, ending up as Deputy Governor of the Fortress of Dunkirk. He died shortly after the Siege of Dunkirk, so we estimate his death as about 1660. We have been unable to discover his marriage, but it appears that Sir John Prentice had at least one son: James Prentice [H.1] [Chart 19A], born about 1630. He did not long survive his father, so we estimate the latter's death as about 1665." Source: [Normand, William John (1831- 1913), Black Book: An Account of the Normand, Hill, Prentice and Russell Families [Christopher Normand < [email protected] > (Surrey, England). The property referred to as Thorn and one known as Thornmuir, are now in ruins. A place called Thorn Cottages still exists in the rural area near Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland. On a windswept day in August 1999, we visited Thorn, but the road to Thornmuir resembled the route to Sleeping Beauty's castle and we were not equipped to hack our way through. Children of John PRENTICE are: + 2 i. Richard2 PRENTICE, born Abt. 1658. + 3 ii. Archibald PRENTICE, born Bet. 1655 - 1659 in Staine, Scotland; died Abt. 1688. 4 iii. William PRENTICE, born Abt. 1660. Notes for William PRENTICE: According to William Normand's Black Book: An Account of the Normand, Hill, Prentice and Russell Families [Christopher Normand < [email protected] >, William went to London, married and had a family, but disappeared from the family records. However, Archibald Prentice of Manchester only identified two sons: Richard, the oldest son and Archibald, the second son. …sympatico.ca/…/Prentice_update_6ge… 1/30 2/23/2011 Descendants of John Prentice, the Laird… Generation No. 2 2. Richard2 PRENTICE (John1) was born Abt. 1658. Notes for Richard PRENTICE: "...(Sir John Prentice's) son who inherited his principles, was amongst the first to arise against that unconstitutional monarch [Charles I] when his intolerance and tyranny made resistance a virtue. Richard, the eldest son of John, is mentioned in Woodrow, as having been heavily fined for attending a conventicle." [Source: "The Life of Alexander Reid, Written by Himself and Edited by Archibald Prentice, His Great-Grandson", 3rd ed., Manchester, England, c.1822, rep.1829; extracted from Archibald Prentice's footnote, p.34.] Other sources also identify Richard as his father's heritor, the "Laird of Thorn." Although no record has been found, he evidently married and had issue. Child of Richard PRENTICE is: + 5 i. James3 PRENTICE, born Abt. 1675. 3. Archibald2 PRENTICE (John1) was born Bet. 1655 - 1659 in Staine, Scotland, and died Abt. 1688. He married (1) Marion FORREST, daughter of John FORREST. He married (2) Marion BELL. Notes for Archibald PRENTICE: Archibald, "whose son afterward married the daughter of Alexander Reid," was described as "the second son of John Prentice (the Laird of Stone." (Source: The Life of Alexander Reid, Written by Himself and Edited by Archibald Prentice His Great- Grandson, 3rd ed., Manchester, England, c.1822, rep.1829; extracted from Archibald Prentice's footnote, p.33.) Laird of Thorn He is also referred to as "Archibald of Thorn, formerly therein, portioner of Stone Stain, Ston)" in No. 66 of the Index to Particular Register of Sasines for Sheriffdom of Lanark, Vol. 1, 1618-1720. The references (RS.40) IIIB, 399; (RS.41) I.2, 128; (RS.42) IV 192; V.354; VI. 453; VII.75; IX.393 cover the period between 1627 and 1693, probably from the time he inherited the property until his affairs were settled after he died. There are also see references to both of Archibald's wives, Marion Bell and Marion Forrest. There is no further information about Marion Bell, presumably the first wife, but there is some about Marion Forrest. We are told by his grandson Archibald Prentice of Manchester that as a Covenanter, Archibald fought at the Battle of Bothwell Bridge on 22 June 1679. Many lost their lands if they were even suspected of being at Bothwell, and those who were actively engaged and would not renounce the principles (of Presbyterianism) which induced them to take up arms, were fortunate if they escaped the scaffold. Possibly because his family had been under the protection of the grateful Sir William Lockhart as mentioned in his father's notes, Archibald Prentice of Stone was exposed to less persecution than his friend Alexander Reid. He also managed to ride home from Bothwell without anyone observing him, except a weaver who lived on Calderwater. During the subsequent years of oppression, the weaver often used to visit Stone, where he would remark, "Oh, Laird, it was a lucky thing that naebody saw you at Bothwell but me." "Indeed it was," the Laird would answer, "but you're a discret body, and will say nothing about; gang awa, and fill your poke with a meal, for I fancy that's what ye're came for." The revolution of 1688, which restored the liberties of an oppressed people, relieved the Laird of Stone from the petty extractions of the weaver. (Ibid, The Life of Alexander Reid...extracted from Archibald Prentice's footnote, p.33) However, here is some evidence that Archibald Prentice did suffer for his beliefs: "James Prentice, Portioner of Stane. George Russell. Became an elder of the established Church on July 18, 1699. (Probably a tenant in Stane). (Footnote P.28). It will scarcely be doubted that his father, and the father of James Prentice, are the persons named in the following passage from Wodrow, 1684. David Russell, tenant in Stane; Archibald Prentice and John Clelland portioners there; and John Smith, in the same parish, were apprehended and carried prisoner into Edinburgh, imprisoned for three months and fined one hundred pounds, for not raising the hue and cry against these people (Covenanters) when they passed by their houses in coming from the conventicle at Blackloch. George Russell’s son David became an elder in 1765, his son George became a Secession minister at Dalry and later succeeded his father as portioner of Stane. Peter, another son, took over another farm in Stane." Source: http://www.mirage.uk.com/Local%20Interest.htm The children in Archibald's family have been tentatively identified through the (LDS) Scottish Church Records, but none of the …sympatico.ca/…/Prentice_update_6ge… 2/30 2/23/2011 Descendants of John Prentice, the Laird… records included their mother's name. The children have been assigned to the above mentioned Marion Forrest for the time being. Notes for Marion FORREST: Identified in No. 66, "Index to Particular Register of Sasines for Sheriffdom of Lanark," Vol. 1 (1618-1720) as the daughter of John Forrest in Thorn, and the spouse of Archibald Prentice, grandfather of James Prentice of Thorn. Children of Archibald PRENTICE and Marion FORREST are: + 6 i. Archibald3 PRENTICE. 7 ii. Janet PRENTICE. She married James HOWISONE. Notes for Janet PRENTICE: Identified as "daughter of Archibald P. of Thorne, and spouse of James Howisone of Burnehous" in "Index to Particular Register of Sasines for Sheriffdom of Lanark," (RS.41) I.2, 375; (RS.42) II.121. 8 iii. Margaret PRENTICE. Notes for Margaret PRENTICE: Identified as "daughter of Archibald P. of Thorne" in "Index to Particular Register of Sasines for Sheriffdom of Lanark," (RS.41) 1.2. 9 iv. John PRENTICE. He married Christian PATERSON. Notes for John PRENTICE: No baptismal date found, but John is described "son of Archibald P., heritor of Thorrne, (RS 42) IV.192, covering the period 1667-1671: his spouse, see Paterson, Christian" in No.
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