22 Opening of Session [ASSEMBLY] Government Administration

1fi.egislatin.e J\s£~.emhl11 Sir ROBERT ASKIN (Collaroy), Premier and Treasurer [2.31]: I move: Wednesday, 8 August, 1973 That the following Resolution in acknow­ ledgment of the Honourable the Chief Justice's Message be adopted by this House: Fourth Session of Forty-Third Parliament-Adminis­ tration of the Government-Serjeant-at-Arms­ (i) That this House desires to express its Assent to Bills-Governor's Salary (Amendment) Bill (Assent)-Legislative Council: Vacant Seat thanks to the Honourable John Robert Kerr, (Issue of W.rit)-Leave of Absence--Death of J. J. C.M.G., the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Fitzgerald, a former Minister of the Crown­ of New South Wales, for his Message of 4 Death of H. T. Fowles, a former Acting Speaker -Pro Formti Legislation-Death of Sir Leslie May, 1973, informing Members that, conse­ Herron, Lieutenant.:Governor. quent on the death of the Lieutenant-Governor, the Honourable Sir Leslie Herron, K.B.E., C.M.G., on 3 May, 1973, he had assumed the administration of the Government of New FOURTH SESSION OF THE FORTY-THIRD South Wales on 4 May, 1973. PARLIAMENT (i~) That the foregoing Resolution be com­ mumcated by Mr Speaker to His Excellency The House met at noon, pursuant to a the Governor, for transmission to the Honour­ proclamation of His Excellency the Admin­ able John Robert Kerr, C.M.G. istrator of the Government. Mr HILLS (Phillip), Leader of the Mr SPEAKER (THE HoN. SIR KEVIN Opposition [2.32]: I second the motion. ELLIS) took the chair. Mr SPEAKER offered the Prayer. Motion agreed to. The Clerk read the proclamation. ADMINISTRATION OF THE OPENING OF SESSION GOVERNMENT The Usher of the Black Rod, being ad­ Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER reported the follow­ mitted, delivered a message from His Excel­ ing message from His Excellency the lency the Governor requesting the immedi­ Governor: ate attendance of this honourable House in A. R. CUTLER, the Legislative Council Chamber. Governor. The House went, and honourable mem­ The Governor of the State of New South Wales, Sir Roden Cutler, has the honour to bers having returned, !nforll! the Legislative Assembly that, follow­ fMr Speaker left the chair at 12.52 p.m. Ing h1s return from an official visit to the The House resumed at 2.30 p.m.] United Kingdom, he has .this day re-assumed the administration of the Government of the State. ADMINISTRATION OF THE Government House, GOVERNMENT Sydney, 28 May, 1973. Mr DEPUTY..:SPEAKER reported the follow­ ing message from His Excellency the Sir ROBERT ASKIN ( Collaroy) , Administrator of the Government: Premier and Treasurer {2.33]: I move: JoHN R. KERR, That the following Resolution in acknow­ Administrator. ledgment of His Excellency's Message be adopted by this House, and transmitted to His The Honourable John Robert Kerr, Adminis­ Excellency the Governor: trator of the Government of the State of New South Wales, has the honour to inform the That this House desires to express its thanks Legislative Assembly that, consequent on the to His Excellency the Governor for his Message death of the Lieutenant-Governor, the Honour­ of 28 May, 1973, informing Members that able Sir Leslie Herron, K.B.E., C.M.G., on 3rd consequent on his return from an official visit May, 1973, he this day took the Oath of to the United Kingdom, he had re-assumed the Allegiance and the Official and Judicial Oath administration of the Government of New before the President of the Court of Appeal of South Wales on that day. the Supreme Court of New South Wales and assumed the administmtiion of the Govern­ Mr HILLS (Phillip), Leader of the ment of the .State. Opposition [2.34]: I second the motion. Government House, Sydney, 4 May, 1'973. Motion agreed to. Serjeant-at-Arms [8 Auo., 1973] Leave of Absence 23 SERJEANT-AT-ARMS Parliamentary Electorates and Elections (Amendment) Bill Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER: I have to inform Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Amend­ the House that I have received a commission ment) Bill Printing and Newspapers Bill in favour of Mr William Geoffrey Luton, Private Irrigation Districts and Water who has been appointed by His Excellency (Amendment) Bill the Governor and the Executive Council, Serjeant-at-Arms of the Legislative Assem­ GOVERNOR'S SALARY (AMENDMENT) bly, in the room of Mr Frederick Augustine BILL Mahony, retired. His Excellency the Gov­ ASSENT ernor has already administered to Mr Luton Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER reported a message the oath of allegiance and the oath of office from His Excellency the Lieutenant-Gov­ as Serjeant-at-Arms of the Legislative ernor stating that His Excellency had re­ Assembly of New South Wales. served the Governor's Salary (Amendment) Bill for the signification of Her Majesty's pleasure thereon. ASSENT TO BILLS Royal assent to the following bills re- LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL: VACANT SEAT ported: ISSUE OF WRIT Administration of Justice Bill Companies (Amendment) Bill Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER reported the receipt Co-operation and Other Acts (Amendment) of a message from His Excellency the Gov­ Bill Electricity Development (Amendment) Bill ernor intimating that with the advice of the Mock Auctions Bill Executive Council he had issued a writ for Motor Traffic and Transport (Amendment) Bill the election, on 30th August, 1973, of a Workers' Compensation (Insurance) Bill member of the Legislative Council to fill Audit (Amendment) Bill Dairy Industry (Amendment) Bill the vacancy caused by the resignation of Electricity Commission (Superannuation) the Hon. Ernest Gerard Wright. Amendment Bill Grain Elevators (Amendment) Bill Writ read by the Clerk. Nurses Education Board Bill Nurses Registration (Amendment) Bill Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER directed that the Police Regulation (Superannuation and Ap- taking of the votes of members of the Legis­ peals) Amendment Bill Public Service (Amendment) Bill lative Assembly be set down as an order Sydney Cove Redevelopment Authority of the day for the day of tpe ballot ap­ (Amendment) Bill Sydney Opera House Trust (Amendment) pointed in the writ, namely, 30th August, Bill 1973, and intimated that on that day the Transferred Officers Extended Leave (Amendment) Bill taking of votes would take precedence of Zoological Parks Board Bill all other business. Aborigines (Amendment) Bill Arbitration (Foreign A wards and Agree­ ments) Bill Electricity Commission (State Coal Mines) LEAVE OF ABSENCE Bill Motion. (by Mr Mauger) agreed to: Firearms and Dangerous Weapons Bill Foreign Judgments (Reciprocal Enforce­ That leave of absence for the present Session ment) Bill be granted to James Arthur Clough, Esquire, Housing and Public Works (Amendment) Member for Eastwood, on account of absence Bill from the State. Liquor (Amendment) Bill Mining Bill Motion (by Mr Chaffey) agreed to: Municipality of Hurstville (Wolli Creek, That leave of absence for the present Session Kingsgrove, Public Reserve Land Sale) Bill be granted to Joseph Alexander Lawson, Es­ New South Wales Retirement Benefits quire, Member for Murray, on account of (Amendment) Bill illness. 24 Death of Joseph John [ASSEMBLY] Fitzgerald, Esquire DEATH OF JOSEPH JOHN FITZGERALD, In 1916, while still a young man, Mr ESQUIRE, A FORMER MINISTER OF THE Fitzgerald became prominent in the Austra­ CROWN lian Timber Workers Union, becoming Sir ROBERT ASKIN (Collaroy), secretary of that union in 1920. He was Premier and Treasurer [2.42]: I move: keenly interested in local-government activi­ ties. In 1920, while still secretary of the That this House extends to the family of Joseph John Fitzgerald, Esquire, a former Min­ Australian Timber Workers Union, he ister of the Crown, the deep sympathy of Mem­ stood as a Labor candidate for Oxley and bers of the Legislative Assembly in the loss was successful. He retained this seat at the sustained. following elections in 1922, and again in It is with r~gret that I report to the House 1925 when he joined the Lang Ministry. the death on 5th July last, at the age of Few, if any, members or ex-members of 90, of Mr Joseph John Fitzgerald, a former either House of this Parliament will have member of this Chamber and Minister of personal recollections of Mr Fitzgerald's the Crown. Mr Fitzgerald died at Lew­ activities here, but he is credited with having isham Hospital after a long illness. He piloted through Parliament amendments to was first elected to Parliament as member the Local Government Act which intro­ for Oxley on 20th March, 1920, and held duced adult franchise at municipal elections, that seat for the Australian Labor Party and with having taken an active part in until 7th September, 1927. He was 'success­ moves to give superannuation rights to ful later in standing for the Albury seat, council employees. which he held from 25th October, 1930, to In 1930 Mr Fitzgerald changed his venue, 18th May, 1Q32. Mr Fitzgerald had a long standing as a Labor candidate for Albury. and meritorious record in this Assembly. He held that seat until 1932, when he was He was a member of the Lang Ministry a political casualty in the big electoral from 17th June, 1925, until 26th May, 1927, swing of that year. Little was heard of him first as Assistant Minister for Public Health in public life after that, until his name re­ and Assistant Minister for Local Govern­ appeared in local government. In 1960, ment from 17th June, 1925, to 24th March, when he was well beyond what most men 1926, and then as Minister for Local Gov­ regard as their retiring age-he was then in ernment from 25th March, 1926, to 26th his seventies-he stood successfully as a May, 1927. His wife and his only daughter Labor candidate for the Marrickville council and was immediately made mayor. He was pre-deceased him. He is survived by his mayor in the years 1960, 1961 and 1962, grand-daughter, Julie-as she is known to and deputy-mayor for the next five years, her relatives and friends-and her husband after which he decided to call it a day and and three children. retire from public life. Joseph John Fitzgerald, son of the local Mr Fitzgerald was always proud of shoemaker, was born near the town of Nel­ having been born and bred in the country. ligen, New South Wales, where as a youth He had the interests of rural employees at he worked at odd jobs and at timber-cut­ heart, and generally was to be heard in the House supporting country projects such as ting. As a young man he came to Sydney a proposed railway to the North Coast. As to take up nursing and was employed as a an alderman of Marrickville municipal nurse at Callan Park. In 1911 he was one council in later life, he worked tirelessly for of the founders of the Hospital Employees underprivileged people, especially pension­ Union and was the first secretary when the ers. It was while he was mayor of Marrick­ union, now the Health and Research Em­ ville that the council supplied the land ployees Association of Australia, was reg­ where the Housing Commission built a block istered that year. He was secretary until of more than twenty units in Petersham July, 1913, and continued to take a keen Road, Marrickville, for the aged. In ap­ interest in trade-union affairs in the fol­ preciation of his efforts in this matter the lowing years. biock was named Fitzgerald Court. Death of Joseph John [8 Auo., 1973] Fitzgerald, Esquire 25 On the personal side, Mr Fitzgerald was a rates on church properties. That legis­ keen churchman, a member of the lation was quite historic and no doubt Lewisham parish of the Roman Catholic would now receive the support of Church, and, I am reliably advised, a widely all members of Parliament. At that time respected member of this Parliament. To it created dissension not only in the com­ his grand-daughter, Mrs K. Eick, who sur­ munity but also in this Parliament. vives him, and to her husband and her I wish to be associated with the resolu­ children, I extend on behalf of the Govern­ tion of condolence proposed by the Premier. ment sincere sympathy in their bereavement. Mr Fitzgerald died at the age of ninety Mr HILLS (Phillip), Leader of the years having given valued service to the Opposition '[2.49]: I wish to support the community as a Minister of the Crown, as Premier in the motion of condolence to the a secretary of a trade union and as mayor relatives of the late John Joseph Fitzgerald. of a municipality. Members on this side The Premier has said that Mr Fitzgerald of the House desire to be associated with was born near Nelligen on the South Coast the remarks made by the Premier when he in 1883 and was responsible for the forma­ conveyed sympathy to Mr Fitzgerald's tion of the Hospital Employees Union, grand-daughter and members of her family. which is now the Health and Research Em­ Mr COADY (Drummoyne) [2.54]: I ployees Association of Australia. The should like to be associated with the mes­ Premier also dealt with the fact that Mr sage of sympathy to the grand-daughter of Fitzgerald was the secretary of the Timber the late Jack Fitzgerald. My election to Workers Union, that he came into this this Parliament in 1954 followed the sad Parliament representing the electorate of passing of Claude Matthews who had been Oxley and that he subsequently became the member for Leichhardt. A field of Minister for Local Government. Mr twelve members of the Labor Party stood Fitzgerald was a member of the Lang for pre-selection in that electorate and the Ministry when, in 1927, Mr Lang asked late Jack Fitzgerald was one of those can­ His Excellency Sir Dudley de Chair to dis­ didates. A keen contest took place and I miss the Government of the day. Although remember the clean fight he fought and the Mr Lang carried on as Premier for some considerable effort he made in an endeavour months, subsequently there was an election to re-enter the Parliament. I was a friend and his government was defeated. Mr of his even before that time and remained Fitzgerald lost his seat but in 1930 was re­ his friend during the intervening years. I elected as the member for Albury. In May, should like to endorse what has been said 1932, he was again in the Lang Ministry about his term as Minister for Local Gov­ when it was dismissed by Sir Philip Game. ernment. As the Leader of the Opposition As the Premier and Treasurer has said, has indicated, the late Jack Fitzgerald intro­ Mr Fitzgerald was a member of this Parlia­ duced legislation whereby religious bodies ment in troublous and difficult times when were exempt from local-government rates. situations such as those I have mentioned That was an important. measure. arose. He came back into public life as It is interesting to reflect on the intense as alderman of the Marrickville council and activity of Jack Fitzgerald in public life immediately became mayor. I remember in contrast with the general apathy of today. attending a mayoral ball in my capacity as He founded the Hospital Employees Union, Minister for Local Government when he as it was then known, later to be called the was mayor of the council. Because of his Health and Research Employees Associa­ experience he was able to make valuable tion. He was also secretary of the Timber suggestions to me in my position as Minister Workers Union. for Local Government. He was the Min­ He was a regular attender at functions ister who was responsible for piloting and political meetings in his area. A through this Parliament legislation to daughter, who is now deceased, served a relieve churches of the payment of term on the Marrickville council. Despite 26 Death oj Joseph John [ASSEMBLY] Fitzgerald, Esquire the abolition of the Leichhardt electorate pensioners could be built. It is interesting and my representing the Drummoyne elec­ that a Labor leader of the day, Jack Lang, torate I am in touch with many of his old laid the foundation stone for the Sydney friends. He was always active in and out Harbour bridge and Jack Fitzgerald laid of Parliament and in and out of council. the foundation stone for Tom Ugly's bridge. A tragedy is that those who were so dedi­ Not long ago I had the opportunity of cated in past eras are not being replaced. seeing on film this tall, straight man laying I wish to be associated with the expressions the foundation stone. Further, he was a of sympathy by the Premier and Treasurer great social worker and supporter of the and by the Leader of the Opposition to Mr underprivileged. Fitzgerald's grand-daughter Julie and her Of the many stories Mr Fitzgerald told family. me of timber workers who had not got a Mr MALLAM (Campbelltown) [2.57]: fair deal, I recall vividly the one about re­ I wish to be associated with the resolution jection of sleepers. The cutters had worked so ably moved by the Premier and Treas­ for months cutting them, but when they urer and seconded by the Leader of the hauled them out of the scrub and took them Opposition. I knew Jack Fitzgerald longer to the railway siding the contractors had got perhaps that any other honourable member out their red chalk and put it on them. Mr in this House and I was responsible for his Fitzgerald, by having that practice made becoming a candidate for election to Mar­ illegal, was able to ensure that timber rickville council. He became the first Labor workers got a fair price for sleepers. mayor in the reformed Marrickville muni­ Mr Fitzgerald was a man of the people­ cipality. The late Mr Fitzgerald had a a man who dedicated his life to politics and most colourful life. He was a born fighter to service in the Marrickville council. It who never let up. I have been with him was truly said of him that he left the service to his birthplace at Nelligen and spent many of the council only when he felt sure that hours with him. He had a most unusual his daughter would be able to carry on in record in that he represented a country that service. However, three months after electorate in the north of New South Wales her election to council she had some teeth and then was able to win a seat in the extracted and subsequently died from the south. I have never met anyone who had effects of drugs used at that operation. I his capacity to organize and was so dedi­ thank the Premier for the research he has cated to looking after his fellow man. made and for his kind words about Mr As was mentioned by the Premier and Fitzgerald. The House could spend all the Treasurer, when Jack Fitzgerald came to evening talking about this wonderful man, Sydney he was employed in a mental insti­ who was a great fighter for any cause he tution and he founded the Hospital Em­ believed in. He left his mark on this Legis­ ployees Union. He told me that he felt lative Assembly by the legislation that he that patients in mental institutions were not introduced here. He was an outstanding receiving adequate care. Right to the last Australian. He was one of those Ministers he had a great interest in the Gladesville who took personal charge of his ministry. psychiatric centre. Mr Fitzgerald was a He was an outstanding Minister, making his man of action. When he became mayor of own decisions and following them through. Marrickville he was responsible for the I join all other members in extending sym­ establishment of small baths in the area to pathy to his grand-daughter Julie. be used by workers' children. As the Premier and Treasurer mentioned also, Jack Members and officers of the House standing Fitzgerald dedicated council land in the area in their places, in which he served so that flats for age Motion agreed_ to. Death of Howard Thomas [8 Auo., 1973] F~wles, Esquire 27

DEATH OF HOWARD THOMAS FOWLES, respect on both sides of the House. He had ESQUIRE, A FORMER CHAL~MAN OF special sympathy for dairy farmers who, COMMITTEES AND ACTING-SPEAKER when he stood for Parliament in 1941, were OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY in difficult economic circumstances. He re­ Sir ROBERT ASKIN (Collaroy), corded that during his election campaign he Premier and Treasurer [3.2]: I move: saw children at work at 10 o'clock at night rolling out milk cans. He said that at six That this House extends to Mrs Fowles and family the deep sympathy of Members of the o'clock next morning these children had to Legislative Assembly in the loss sustained by milk the cows before they went to school the death of Howard Thomas Fowles, Esquire, and that later he saw them asleep at their a former Chairman of Committees and Acting­ school desks. Such experiences left a pro­ Speaker of this House. found impression on this compassionate With regret I have to report the death of man. Howard Thomas Fowles, a former member When Howard Fowles was Chairman of of this House. Mr Fowles, who was 79, Committees he was the centre of a most died on 17th May, 1973, at the Hastings unusual and somewhat historic scene in District Hospital, Port Macquarie, after a this House. This was back in 1959. At l(lng illness, and was cremated at Wollon­ the time I was Leader of the Opposition gong 21st May. and the Hon. R. J. Heffron was Premier. Howard Fowles was a prominent mem­ I am sure that some honourable members ber of the Australian Labor Party. He was share my vivid recollections of that evening. president of the Illawarra State Electorate The electric division bells were out of order Council of the Australian Labor Party when and Mr Fowles, as Chairman of Commit­ he first became a member of this Assembly tees, ordered that heavy hand bells be taken in 1941 as member for Illawarra, a seat he out of their cupboard, where they had been held until he retired from Parliament in stored unused for many years, to be rung January, 1968. He became Chairman of to call members in to vote. Although the Committees in April, 1959, and held this hand bells, like those used to signal half­ position until March, 1965. He was Acting­ time and full-time at football matches, had Speaker from 29th May, 1962, until 29th been kept for just such an emergency, they August that year. As a politician, Howard had not been used for thirty or forty years. Fowles represented important sections of It was a most unusual event and I recall working people, particularly miners and that Mr Fowles had a great chuckle about dairy farmers. In his maiden speech to this it. Assembly in July, 1941, he referred to the In private life Howard Fowles took an great diversity of interest in his electorate, active interest in sport. He was captain ranging from the rural to the highly indus­ of a cricket team at Guildford, which, be­ trial. He said that he had found on speaking cause his two sons played in it also, was to farmers and others in the district that the known locally as the Fowles cricket team. old idea that the interests of those engaged As an amateur boxer he achieved some in secondary industry were opposed to those eminence; in 1912 he was heavyweight champion of the Liverpool district. As in primary industry had been discarded. No well, he was a good long-distance swimmer. one will question that observation. He said Even in his 50's he was often in the surf that both sections realized that they were at Wollongong and was still swimming long dependent on one another and that the distances later on in life. During the de­ interests of each had to go hand in hand if pression years, like so many other members both were to achieve economic security. of his political party, he worked hard in This theme dominated much of his thinking, organizing supplies of potatoes, other food­ and he put it into practice whenever the stuffs and essentials to ensure that as far occasion arose. To my mind, as to many of as possible needy people in his area did not his colleagues, this showed an admirable go without. He was a kindly and sympa­ breadth of outlook. This attitude won him thetic man. 28 Death of Howard Thomas [ASSEMBLY] Fowles, Esquire Howard Fowles was proud of the fact­ when great changes were taking place in he made no secret of it-that he was self­ the industry, including the establishment made man. He left school at the age of of the Milk Board of New South Wales. 12 and had no other formal education. It It might be as well to mention that at the redounds to his credit that he rose so high time the people in the dairy industry were in community affairs. Before entering Par­ showing a tremendous interest in the way liament he worked in the electrical engin­ in which the Government was administer­ eering section of the railways. He took a ing their industry. keen interest in trade-union affairs and be• Howard Fowles died in Port Macquarie, came honorary secretary of the Wollongong where he went to live permanently after branch of the Electrical Trades Union his resignation from Parliament. I had shortly before entering Parliament in 1941. many opportunities of meeting him there. As a member of this Assembly Mr Fowles He had a nice home right on the Hastings always did his conscientious best for his River, where he was able to indulge in constituents. On behalf of the Government fishing activities. He built a great reputa­ I extend to his widow and family deep and tion among the local people. His associ­ sincere sympathy in their bereavement. ation with horse racing well fitted him to Mr HILLS (Phillip), (Leader of offer advice to the local committee on the the Opposition) [3.8]: I second the improvements that were made to the Port motion of condolence to Mrs Fowles Macquarie race track. and the members of the family so It is with great regret that members on <~bly moved by the Premier. Mr Deputy this side of the Chamber gather here today Speaker, on many occasions the late to offer our condolences to Mrs Fowles Howard Fowles in his capacity as Acting­ and members of the family, who can be Speaker of this Assembly occupied the chair assured that the members of this Parlia­ that you now occupy. When he was in ment have great respect for the memory of control of the House, or as Chairman of Howard Fowles for the splendid part he Committees, he exercised considerable re­ played in the conduct of the affairs of this straint and by his good humour was able State on behalf of the community of New to prevent some incidents that might other­ South Wales. wise have occurred. As the Premier has said, Howard Fowles was so well respected Mr JACKSON (Heathcote) {3.13]: I wish to be associated with this motion of by members on both sides of the House sympathy to the widow and family of that he was able to ensure the successful Howard Thomas Fowles. It was my privi­ functioning of this Chamber. lege to serve with him and the Hon. During the time he represented the elec­ R. F. X. Connor when, for a long number of torate of lllawarra, Howard Fowles served years, the three of us represented the in nine parliaments. He came to this Par­ Greater Wollongong area. As members liament in 1941 when Labor was returned know, the Hon. R. F. X. Connor is now to office under the McKell administration. the federal Minister for Energy and Fuel. Previously he had been unsuccessful in During the period to which I refer the attempting to gain municipal office in the great changes and tremendous develop­ Wollongong area, and it was not until he ment that were taking place in the Greater stood for the State electorate of lllawarra Wollongong area gave rise to a variety of that he was able to make his mark in the problems. At that time I came to learn public forum. Mr Fowles served an elec­ of the great qualities of Howard Fowles, torate that comprised both rural and in­ who rose to the top in many spheres, in­ dustrial constituents, and therefore had to cluding in an acting capacity to the highest adjust himself to a diversity of needs. He position in this Parliament-the position was well respected, especially by dairy you now occupy, Mr Deputy-Speaker. He farmers, whose views he put at a time was a member of Parliament for almost Death of Howard Thomas [8 Auo., 1973] Fowles, Esquire 29 27 years, became leader in his own trade he won the seat when virtually no Labor union, and was a member of the central Party organization existed in the area. Also, executive of the Labor Party. At all times I have heard the story about how when he he commanded the respect and admiration worked for the railways on the maintenance of the members of this House as well as all of the telegraph line he gained the support sections of the community he represented. of the railwaymen and thus created his own When on 21st May, 1973, I, together electoral organization. He was elected to with my three parliamentary colleagues political office with the support of his branch from the Wollongong area, attended the of the Labor Party and also as a result of ceremony associated with the cremation of the assistance he had given to many people Howard Fowles I could not help feeling over a long period. What characterized disappointed. I then realized only too well Howard Fowles was his diligent, conscien­ what happens to a member when he leaves tious and constant attention to duty. this Parliament, irrespective of the number His son Ross has told me about how, of years he has served the community and especially in the first five or ten years of the position to which he has risen in this Howard's parliamentary membership, he place. Apart from us, no other members acted as his father's unpaid representative of Parliament were present at the cere­ in the area. Ross and Howard worked to­ mony. It was only natural in those cir­ gether as a team, and I am sure that when cumstances that I should recall the saying, Ross saw the amount of work his father "There, but for the grace of God, go 1." had to do to hold his seat, he decided not to Howard Fowles, like many other members seek a parliamentary career for himself, who have left here, had joined the forgot­ even though he was perfectly capable of ten legion. One can take a lesson from this discharging this office. event and other examples in assessing what is likely to happen in relation to economic I think the greatest tribute that can be position and personal feelings when a paid to Howard Fowles was the one that member leaves here. was paid to him by the Hon. R. F. X. Connor when, as a member of this Cham­ Howard Fowles was a loyal colleague and ber, he nominated him in 1962 for the a sincere friend. Above all, he was a real position of Chairman of Committees. I man. I held him in the highest respect. For commend members to read what was said myself, and on behalf of the people I repre­ on that occasion. In paying a high tribute sent, I extend to Mrs Fowles, to her family to Howard Fowles as a product of the and the close personal friends, deepest sym­ trade-union movement and the working pathy in the sad loss they have sustained. class, the Hon. R. F. X. Connor used an immortal phrase to emphasize that Howard Mr PETERSEN (Illawarra) {3.16]: I Fowles had graduated from the university first met Mr Fowles in 1957, when I came of life in the faculty of hard knocks. I am to live in the Wollongong area. Later I sure that from his experiences in the univer­ became the secretary of the Labor Party sity of life he learned good, hard common branch to which he belonged at Unanderra, sense, which stood him in good stead when where his son Ross, a personal friend of he came to occupy the chair in this Cham­ mine, still lives. What struck me when I ber. One cannot say, for example, that came to live there was that everybody knew May's Parliamentary Practice guided him, Howard Fowles, whose electorate stretched for I believe that he was guided by t~ from Corrimal to Kiama. The electorate is common sense he had learned over the now much smaller than when he was first years in the trade-union movement, the elected to Parliament in 1941. One of the working-class environment, and the Labor legends of the district was how Howard movement. Fowles was elected in 1941 in a constitu­ Though I never saw Howard Fowles in ency which could have been and should have action in this House--l succeeded him in been held by the Liberal Party. Moreover, 1968-1 have heard enough about what he 30 Death of H. T. Fowles [ASSEMBLY] Death of Sir Leslie Herron did to realize that in many respects he was I ask you to rule that this procedure should a model for what can be done by being be adhered to in the future in order to main­ conscientious in attention to duty, by apply­ tain an undoubted right that is essential to ing common sense, and by being devoted to the operation of this Parliament. the Labor movement. We are the poorer for the passing of Howard Fowles. I, too, Mr DEPUTY-SPEAKER: Order! It is cus­ join in expressing to his widow, his son and tomary for a formal motion of the type daughter the deep sympathy I feel at the referred to by the honourable member for loss of a man who was not only a personal Parramatta to be moved early in each friend but also a colleague when I was session. Today's business is purely formal. Honourable members have been and will secretary of his State electorate council be dealing chiefly with motions paying tri­ and the secretary of his branch of the Labor Party. bute to former members of this House and to a person who held the highest judicial Members and officers of the House stand­ ing in their places, office in the State as well as that of Lieu­ tenant-Governor. The programme of busin­ Motion agreed to. ess for tomorrow includes the pro forma consideration of a Law of Evidence Bill. In PRO FORMA LEGISLATION no way would the House be forfeiting any Mr MAHONEY: On a point of order. I of its undoubted rights or privileges by ask for a ruling on the correctness of the dealing with the bill at that stage. I rule procedure followed earlier this afternoon when you, Mr Deputy-Speaker, consequent accordingly. upon the receipt of a writ issued by His Excellency the Governor, directed that an election be held to fill a vacancy in the DEATH OF THE HONOURABLE SIR Legislative Council caused by the resigna­ LESLIE JAMES HERRON, K.B.E., C.M.G., K.STJ., LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR OF tion of an honourable member. It has THE STATE OF NEW SOUTH WALES been a practice of the House of Commons since the reign of Charles II, and of this Sir ROBERT ASKIN (Collaroy), House since its inception, for the House to Premier and Treasurer [3.24]: I move: assert its undoubted privilege and right to ( 1) That this House desires to place on control its own business before any busi­ record its deep sense of the loss this State ness is conducted consequent upon a has sustained by the death of the Honourable speech or recommendation by the Sovereign Sir Leslie James Herron, K.B.E., C.M.G., K.StJ., Lieutenant-Governor of the State of or her representative, such as honourable New South Wales. members heard earlier today from His Ex­ (2) That Mr Speaker be requested to com­ cellency the Governor. municate to Lady Herron and family the above Resolution, together with an expression of the As a means of asserting that right it has sympathy and sorrow of the Members of the been the practice for the House to agree to Legislative Assembly of New South Wales. the first reading of a pro formfi measure, (3) That, as a tribute of respect, this House usually the Law of Evidence Bill. Although do now adjourn. I realize it is now too late to amend the It is with regret that I formally announce procedure followed today, I ask you to rule to the House the death of the former Lieu­ for the future guidance of the House that tenant-Governor and Chief Justice of New tbe usual practice be continued. The South Wales, the Hon. Sir Leslie James right to which I refer should not be sur­ Herron, Knight Commander of the Order rendered easily. Standing Order 35 speci­ of the British Empire, Companion of the fically provides: Order of St Michael and St George, Knight Before the Governor's Speech is reported of the Order of St John of Jerusalem. Sir to the House by the Speaker, some formal Leslie, who was 70, died on 3rd May while motion shall be made, or formal business transacted without notice. administering the Government of this State Death ofHon. [8 AuG., 1973] Sir Leslie Herron 31 in the absence of His Excellency, Sir Roden and women. He greatly enjoyed these con­ Cutler. Sir Leslie had retired as Chief tacts, and just before his death was still Justice of New South Wales- only a year trying to organize a:· legal aid service to before his death and a month after his ap­ benefit the general public. pointment as Lieutenant-Governor. De­ Sir Leslie achieved distinction also in spite his declining health he faithfully car­ many fields outside his chosen profession. ried out the obligations and duties of the In his youth he was a champion athlete high office of Lieutenant-Governor. and retained this interest in sport through­ It was most noticeable that this fine man out his life. From 1944 until his death last was uncomplaining about his poor health. May he was president of the Australian His friends believed he must have been Golf Club. He was also a past president of aware that he would not be spared for much the N.S.W. Rugby Union, former chair­ longer, but he carried on to the last, doing man of the Australian Rugby Union and his job smilingly and without complaint. International Rugby Board, and past presi­ I was deeply grieved to learn of the dent of the Amateur Swimming Associ­ passing of this distinguished Australian as ation of N.S.W. He was a former presi­ were, I am sure, other honourable mem­ dent of the Sydney Cricket Ground trust. The honourable member for Castle­ bers. As Lieutenant-Governor and Chief reagh and I had the pleasure of serving Justice, Sir Leslie rendered outstanding under Sir Leslie Herron when he was service to the State. Indeed his services to president of the trust. I am not sure the community in many capacities ex­ whether the honourable member for Bur­ tended over most of his adult life. The rinjuck also served with him, but I know late Lieutenant-Governor was born in that Sir Leslie and that honourable gentle­ Sydney in May, 1902. He was educated at man were closely associated as members Sydney Grammar School and later at Syd­ of the trust and in the legal world. Sir Les­ ney University where he graduated with honours in Jaw. He was called to the Bar lie Herron had a most formidable record of service in almost every aspect of pub­ in 1925 at the age of 23. Sir Leslie took lic life, as well as in sport, which is char­ silk in 1939 and became an acting judge of the District Court in the same year. He acteristically Australian. was appointed a justice of the Supreme Sir Leslie was active in social service Court two years later when he was only as well, and participated in various chari­ 39. He served as a member of this court table activities. One of these was the St for 21 years before being appointed Chief John Ambulance Association. He was an Justice in 1962. acting president of the St John Ambulance Sir Leslie had a masterly grasp of almost Association and brought a great deal of all aspects of the law. As Chief Justice he practical as well as legal knowledge to presided over the difficult period of re­ their meetings. Also, he worked diligently organization of the Supreme Court, during for hospitals, including Lewisham General which the Court of Appeal was estab­ Hospital. I am sure that I echo the senti­ lished. As Chief Justice he was also chair­ ments of all honourable members when I man of the Law Reform Committee which say that Sir Leslie was a man of com­ was responsible for studying the anomalies manding presence and strong personality, in the law and recommending reforms. In yet he was patient, compassionate and addition to his duties as Chief Justice he understanding. Great success, honours and took upon his shoulders a full share of the · high position left him a friendly man who ordinary judicial work of the bench. His clearly liked his fellow man and was well fellow judges have praised his judgments liked in return. His genial nature and and the practical wisdom he derived from sense of humour made him a popular guest maintaining close contact with the activi­ speaker and companion. He was a family ties and problems of the ordinary men man who delighted in the company of his 32 Death of H on. [ASSEMBLY] Sir Leslie Herron grandchildren. On behalf of the Govern­ pleasure of hearing them. The people of ment I extend to Lady Herron, to her New South Wales are the poorer with the daughter and son-in-law, Mr and Mrs J. C. passing of this man of friendly disposition Crawford and their family, sincere sym­ · towards all. He served in positions of great pathy in their sad loss. importance in the community of New South Wales and the Commonwealth without Mr HILLS (Phillip), Leader of the losing the common touch. For this attribute Opposition 1[3.32]: The State of New South the people were grateful to him and re­ Wales suffered a most serious loss with the member him with great respect. I proffer death of Sir Leslie Herron. At the time of to Lady Herron and Mrs Crawford and his death he was Acting Governor of New family the sympathy of this Parliament. South Wales in the absence of the Governor in Great Britain. ')ir Leslie was not only Mr McCAW (Lane Cove), Attorney­ Lieutenant-Governor of New South Wales General [3.36]: When Mr L. J. Herron but also a· man who had served with great was called to the bar in 1925 I was a distinction in the law through its various junior clerk in a Sydney law office. I came phases. After graduating from the Univer­ to know him from afar: I respected, liked sity of Sydney, he became a barrister, took and admired him for the many qualities silk, was appointed to the Supreme Court which in later life most of us in this Cham­ and subsequently became Chief Justice of ber and many thousands of people outside the State. Though Sir Leslie was a man of came to know so well. It was my privilege great eminence he was, as the Premier and to brief Mr Herron, K.C., in the last case Treasurer has intimated, practical in his in which he appeared, in November and approach to the law: he spoke of it in December, 1940, before the late Mr Jus­ terms that the layman could understand. tice Bonney. The hearing of this case went The people appreciated his great eminence into the summer vacation and the court sat as a lawyer but even more his practical on Saturday to enable the last counsel, whom approach to the law. we remember here, today, to conclude his address. When judgment in that case was Sir Leslie served with great distinction on delivered on lOth February, 1941, Mr Jus­ a commission which made a series of recom­ tice Herron had taken his seat on the Sup­ mendations to the former Government. reme Court as a colleague of the presiding Some of those recommendations are yet to judge. be considered by this Government. He gave great service to many sporting bodies. The I came to know Sir Leslie as a personal Premier and I had the pleasure of serving friend. In the eight years during which I under him when he was president of the have had the honour to occupy the office Sydney Cricket Ground Trust. Sir Leslie of Attorney-General, which involves liaison had many contacts with people in various between the judicial and the executive arms sporting activities and was able to bring to of government, on many occasions I have the trust benefits that flowed from the con­ had reason to be grateful for Sir Leslie's fidence that he enjoyed among officials from co-operation, friendliness and advice. Like other sporting organizations. Because he so many others, I feel a deep sense of per­ had contacts both in this State and through­ sonal loss at his passing. It must have been out the Commonwealth with officials of a man such as he whom Kipling had in mind when he wrote these words: bodies such as the Rugby Union, many If you can walk with crowds and keep your problems were resolved quickly. virtue, Sir Leslie enjoyed attending social Or walk with Kings-nor lose the common touch, functions. He liked receiving invitations to be guest speaker at dinners. I remember It must have been a man such as Sir Leslie being present on one occasion when, during Herron whom Leigh Hunt had in mind when he put into the mouth of Abou Ben an address, he made some remarks which Adhem the words: may have embarrassed some persons but I pray thee, then, gave great delight to all who had the Write me as one that loves his fellow men. Death of Bon. [8 AuG., 1973] Sir Leslie Herron 33 Sir Leslie Herron was a man of command­ so long and served in so many ways. I re­ ing presence, strong personality, great com­ member well his association with the Sydney passion, forbearance, patience, kindness and Cricket Ground Trust, to which the Premier helpfulness. He was also of great gentle­ and Treasurer referred in his remarks. I ness, simplicity and humility. He was suppose that a man so widely respected dedicated to the achievement of practical and commanding the affection of so many justice both in his practice at the bar and diverse groups of people must be criticized when he presided in Her Majesty's courts. from time to time, but never have I heard I join my colleagues of the legal profession any public criticism directed at Sir Leslie again, as it was my sad duty to do in May Herron during his long judicial career. last in the Banco Court, in paying tributes It is sad to think that the inevitable hand of gratitude for the services rendered by of time marked for death this distinguished Sir Leslie, and in offering sympathy to citizen so soon after he had relinquished Lady Herron, her daughter and son-in-law his position as Chief Justice of New South and three grandchildren, whom Sir Leslie Wales and entered, as we all thought, upon loved so much and who loved him so well. his retirement. But no; he was still con­ I conclude with the words used by Ingersoll cerned with community activities on behalf at his brother's graveside: of the people. I join with the Premier, the If everyone to whom he during his lifetime Leader of the Opposition and the Attorney­ did a kindness were today to bring a blossom General in extending to Lady Herron and to his grave, he would sleep tonight beneath a wilderness of flowers. her family our deepest sympathy in the loss of one of the State's noblest sons. Mr SHEAHAN (Burrinjuck) [3.41]: It was my privilege to know and to have the Mr JAGO (Gordon), Minister for Health friendship of Sir Leslie Herron for more [3.44]: I support the motion of condol­ than half a century. Despite the fact that ence, and in company with all honourable Sir Leslie was elevated to some of the most members and the people generally I echo distinguished positions in the State, our the sentiments that have been expressed here friendship was never dimmed. Sometimes this afternoon. For about thirty years or I have read about great judges, but I prefer more I and other members of my family to speak of good judges. Sir Leslie Herron have enjoyed a close personal friendship was a good judge, who conducted his court with Leslie Herron and we have some idea with dignity and humanity. I never heard of the qualities to which reference has been anyone-a member of the bar or anyone made this afternoon. May I mention the else-deny the impartiality of Sir Leslie devotion of the Sisters of Charity at St Herron in carrying out his judicial duties. Vincent's Hospital and the Sisters of Charity He had the confidence of the various gov­ at the Sacred Heart Hospice to Sir Leslie ernments in office since his appointment to Herron. The Leader of the Opposition re­ ferred, I think, to the dinner at the Menzies the bench. Sir Leslie had a gregarious per­ hotel when Sir Leslie launched an ·appeal sonality and enjoyed company. People for improvements at the Sacred Heart Hos­ loved his sense of humour and his scintillat­ pice at Darlinghurst, which today must ing conversation. Social intercourse was surely stand as a great memorial to him. second nature to him. Similarly, the Lewisham hospital sports medicine clinic is a memorial to a tremen­ He was a keen rugby follower but not dous amount of hard work done by Sir a bigoted one. I saw him enjoy rugby Leslie to raise funds for this project which league as much as the most avid follower provides exceptional facilities for people of the game at the Sydney cricket ground physically disabled in some way through on so many occasions that it would be im­ sporting activities. possible to number them. Sir Leslie was Finally, I am sure the St John Ambu­ also a leader and a member of the execu­ lance Association would want me to record tive in many activities, charitable and sport­ the great interest of Sir Leslie in that ing, in the community in which he lived for organization through his statutory position 3 34 Death of Hon. [ASSEMBLY] Sir Leslie Herron as its president in New South Wales. May word to these young people. Sir Leslie took I say to Lady Herron, her daughter, Mrs a great interest in the activities and personal Crawford, and her son-in-law how deeply affairs of young people and in this way he many people throughout our community showed himself to be a great humanitarian. regret the passing of Sir Leslie. As the Attorney-General has said, Sir Leslie was a great and popular jurist, respected in Mr HEALEY (Davidson) {3.47]: With all avenues in which he walked. He was a the creation of the electorate of Davidson in man's man. I had a great affection for him 1971, Sir Leslie and Lady Herron became and I appreciated the opportunity of being constituents of mine. It is not with this in close to him over many years in these sport­ mind that I wish to speak today, but rather ing activities. I regret that he was not spared from an association with Sir Leslie to enjoy the retirement that came to him in the field of amateur sport over a period after a long career as a lawyer and judge. of 25 years. As the Premier and Treasurer The prospect of leisure time that opened up has mentioned, Sir Leslie was a great lover to him upon his retirement was not to be his of sport of all kinds, but he closely to enjoy, and we are sad to lose such a man. associated himself over many years with I join the Premier and Treasurer and other amateur sport, where he felt that his pres­ honourable members in offering sympathy ence and encouragement could provide to Lady Herron, Mr and Mrs Crawford and much help. Sir Leslie was chairman and the grandchildren. president of the New South Wales Rugby Union and, as the Premier said, presi­ Mr BARRACLOUGH (Bligh) [3.49]: dent of the Australian Golf Club from 1944. Australia, and in particular New South He did much to encourage the interna­ Wales, has lost probably one of her greatest tional golf tournaments that took place here, sons with the passing of Sir Leslie Herron. and this activity led to his being made a He will be remembered by all of us as a member of the International Golf Commit­ man of great understanding with a deep tee. Sir Leslie was president of the Rugby concern for the welfare of his fellow men. Club and the Australian Rugby Union. He He was also a keen sportsman. His capacity was chairman of the New South Wales as a story teller has been mentioned this Amateur Swimming Association, and I was afternoon. I remember attending a dinner closely associated with him in this field for of the Briar Sporting Club at the show­ about ten years. Sir Leslie was a frequent ground some years ago when Sir Leslie visitor to and speaker at the W akehurst was the guest speaker. He spoke for an Sport Foundation. hour and told dozens of stories which had those present rolling in the aisles with All these activities endeared Sir Leslie to laughter. Not one of those stories offended the people who came to know him. He was · the waitresses who were serving at the a great raconteur and after-dinner speaker, tables. That was the calibre of the man. and was eagerly sought by sporting bodies He frequently attended rugby union matches to speak at their functions. He had a great and nothing gave him greater pleasure than fund of stories and liked nothing better than to go into the dressing rooms after a match to be asked to tell them at a men's gather­ and to have a beer with the boys, even ing. Sir Leslie was most popular at when he was Chief Justice of New South functions to welcome visiting sporting teams Wales. He always visited the losing team and he took a great delight in attending first to congratulate them on their play these gatherings. and to speak words of encouragement. He was a kindly man. On the many Sir Leslie was the founder and became occasions when he was asked, in his the first chairman of the Australian Rugby capacity as president of the New South Union. He was chairman at a time when Wales Amateur Swimming Association, to Australia was one of the leading nations present medals to those who were success­ in that sport. Sad to say, that position does ful he always found time to say a friendly not appertain at present. I remember him, Death of H on. [8 Auo., 1973] Sir Leslie Herron 35 too, as president of the Australian Golf "Judge" as we always called him, was a Club. A big professional golf tournament friend of my wife's family all his life. When was held there under the sponsorship of Mc­ I married he became a friend of my family Williams Wines, and golfers came to this also. I well remember a little over 22 years meeting from all over the world. At the ago as a rather unsure bridegroom feeling presentation of trophies Sir Leslie, who was apprehensive about having to follow Sir Chief Justice, said to Gary Player, the win­ Leslie as he proposed the toast to the health ner, "I want you to know that I have never of the bride and groom. My apprehension actually tried the sponsor's product but I was quite ill-founded because his charm and have tried a lot of men who have." That ability had made the audience so receptive was the style of his great humour and it that my task had become easy. is how many people will remember this The last time I saw Sir Leslie before he great Australian. Last December I was died was at the Scots College speech day present at the prize-giving ceremony at the to which the honourable member for Bligh Scots College. Sir Leslie was guest speaker. has referred. He was never too busy nor Though he was a sick man he made an with too important people, nor at too illus­ outstanding speech to the boys of the school. trious a function, to walk over and say One thing he said to them caused some com­ good day to an acquaintance or friend if he ment in the press. He said: possibly could do so. After the school func­ After spending a lifetime in law as a lawyer tion was over he came over to my wife and and judge I believe there is one crime for which me. He put his hands on my wife's shoulder, I would introduce the death penalty, drug peddling and drug smuggling. kissed her forehead, stepped back and looked at her for quite a few minutes. We He was then merely expressing public realize now that he was aware then that opinion. On that occasion Sir Leslie re­ he did not have long to live. With the same mained seated as he was presenting the fortitude that he faced life's other complexi­ prizes. However, when a young lad named ties he was able to deal with that problem. Brockoff, whose father was a former inter­ national rugby union player and is now There is a story that the judge used to tell coach of the Sydney University team, came about himself which gives a clear insight forward to receive his prize Sir Leslie rose into his character. He was very fond of from his chair to present that boy with a golf and he often visited the golf club at book. He did the same with any young Leura, where he had a weekender. During boy who was an outstanding winner. A the last war the club could not get green­ few weeks after that prize giving function keepers and on one occasion the judge was Sir Leslie went to Hill End with the Minis­ mowing the second green when a young lady ter for Lands to take part in the local came up ·and chipped on to the green, top­ celebrations. Even in the last days of his ping the shot badly. The judge said, "You have to keep your head down, miss". She life Sir Leslie was discussing the great putted and the ball went within three feet association he had with sport and sportsmen of the hole. The second putt missed the hole and with his fellow men. badly and the judge offered some further un­ My wife joins me, on behalf of my con­ solicited advice. When he had finished mow­ stituents of Bligh, in extending to Lady Her­ ing the green he returned to the club house and found on his locker a note asking him ron, to Mr and Mrs James Crawford and to see the secretary. The judge was presi­ their children, and to the brothers and sis­ dent of the club at the time. The secretary ters of the late Sir Leslie Herron, our deep­ had received a note from the lass that there est sympathy at the passing of a great was a cheeky greenkeeper on the second Australian. green. Perhaps the sequel to the story -is Mr DOYLE (Vaucluse) -[3.54]: I wish more important than the story itself. After to associate my wife and myself with the having a good laugh, the judge found the motion of condolence moved by the Pre­ girl, introduced himself, bought her a drink mier and Treasurer. Sir Leslie, or the and probably made her a fan of his for life. 36 Death of Sir Leslie Herron [ASSEMBLY] Questions without Notice

Such was the man-fun-loving and pyramid sales cosmetic group Holiday Magic humble. Earlier speakers have spoken of Proprietary Limited went into voluntary his great humility. When one finds humility liquidation on Monday, 30th July last? Is coupled with ability one is on the way to it a fact, also, that according to a circular discovering an outstanding man in the com­ distributed by the company it owes munity. The judge possessed both attributes. just over $3,000,000 to approximately Sydney, indeed the whole State, will be 2,500 creditors? Is it further a fact that much the richer for his having passed this despite requests extending over more than way and much the sadder that he has passed twelve months, the Government still has on. I join the Premier and Treasurer in the not drafted legislation to outlaw pyramid motion of sympathy to Lady Herron and selling? Does legislation outlawing and con­ family. trolling the practice of pyramid selling exist in various States of Canada and of the Mr COATES (Blue Mountains) [3.57]: United States of America? Is it intended With a feeling of emotional satisfaction I to introduce similar legislation in New South have sat here and listened to honourable Wales and, if so, when? members from both sides making justified remarks of commendation about Sir Leslie The Hon. F. M. HEWITT: It is in­ Herron. In the light of what has been tended to introduce legislation this session said it is sufficient for me, as one who was to outlaw pyramid selling. The problem closely associated with him over a long experienced in New South Wales and by period of years, to say that I endorse the the Attorneys-General of all States and of remarks that have been expressed to his the Commonwealth has been to prepare an credit and to remind honourable members acceptable definition of pyramid selling, or that he was a true and great Australian. He of the obnoxious features of pyramid sell­ was eminent in his own field, humble and ing, for I am informed that some types of yet most practical. I mourn his loss as a selling that are not regarded as being objec­ friend and as one who was quite closely tionable could be described as pyramid sell­ associated with him. We express to Lady ing. That is where the real difficulty lies. Herron and to the members of the family As the Hon. N. K. Wran said, legislation who survive him our deepest sympathy. tn some States of the United States of Members and Officers of the House standing America and in various pro:vinces of Canada in their places, outlaws pyramid selling. Some of it has Motion agreed to. been effective, and some not, as I am sure House adjourned at 3.59 p.m. the honourable gentleman is aware. Unless such legislation is clearly drafted, clever people who want to find a way around it 1JI.egizlatihe (!lnuudl will do so. It is the intention of the Gov­ ernment to introduce legislation in this ses­ Thursday, 9 August, 1973 sion, based largely on the British legisla­ tion passed recently. Questions without Notice-Governor's Speech: Address in Reply (Second Day's Debate)-Special DAMAGE TO REDBANK WEIR Adjournment. The Hon. L. P. CONNELLAN: I ask the The PRESIDENT took the chair at 4.30 p.m. Vice-President of the Executive Council The Prayer was read. whether he is aware that an accident has occurred at the Redbank Weir on the Mur­ QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE rumbidgee River, causing damage to the PYRAMID SELLING structure of the weir? Can the Minister The Hon. N. K. WRAN: I direct a ques­ advise me of the extent of this damage? tion without notice to the Minister for Does the Minister know that the weir had Labour and Industry. Is it a fact that the commenced its normal operations about a