NEW SOUTH WALES PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES

FORTY-THIRD PARLIAMENt'-FOURTH SESSION

1fi.egi1>la:tiu.e arouudl During the Session you will be called upon to consider the Government's legisla­ Wednesday, 8 August, 1973 tive and financial proposals and other mat­ ters of importance to the citizens of this Fourth Session of FortY-Third Parliament-Opening of Session-Administration of the Government­ State. Assent to Bills-Legislative Council Representatives on UniversitY Councils-Law of Evidence Bill (pro forma) (first reading)-Vacant Seat (Issue of An occasion to which we all look for­ Writ)--Death of Sir Leslie Herron, Lieutenant­ Governor-Questions without Notice-Governor's ward, with great pleasure, is the forthcoming Speech: Address in Reply-Special Adjournment. visit of Her Majesty the Queen and His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh. ,FOURTH SESSION OF THE FORTY-THIRD Honourable Members will be aware that PARLIAMENT Her Majesty has graciously consented to The House met at noon, pursuant to a officially open the Opera House later this proclamation of His Excellency the Ad­ year. ministrator of the Government. On a more sombre note, I express my The PRESIDENT took the chair. deep feeling of personal loss arising from The Prayer was read. the death in office earlier this year of the The Clerk of the Parliaments read the Lieutenant-Governor, the Honourable Sir proclamation. Leslie Herron. In addition to his outstand­ OPENING OF SESSION ing service to the State, including a long term as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, His Excellency the Governor entered the Chamber, and was received by the Presi­ the late Sir Leslie was most active in com­ dent, who was accompanied by other munity affairs. I am sure all Honourable members and officers of the House. A mes­ Members share my regret at his passing. sage was forwarded to the Assembly that His Excellency desired their immediate Since I last addressed you here the death attendance. has also occurred of Mr John Julius Thomas Stewart. Mr Stewart had been a Member The Assembly being come, of the Legislative Assembly for some fifteen His Excellency was pleased to deliver the years and his passing is a great loss to this following Speech: Parliament and to the State. HONOURABLE MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLA­ TIVE COUNCIL, AND MEMBERS OF THE 1972-73 was a year of considerable LEGISLATIVE AssEMBLY, economic change. The year opened with It is my privilege to address you today, rising unemployment, sluggish consumer at the Opening of the Fourth Session of demand, and uncertain rural prospects, but the Forty-Third Parliament of New South by the close of the financial year there had Wales. been some improvement. 1 2 Opening of Session [COUNCIL] Opening of Session

Consumer demand was increasing, pro­ Development of the State by expansion duction was rising and the housing industry of its industrial potential, and the conse­ was active. Unemployment had fallen, and quential creation of employment opportuni­ labour shortages were beginning to appear. ties, has continued to be a major objective However, there was still significant un­ of the Government. A trade mission under employment in country areas and business tl.:J.e leadership of the Minister for Decen­ capital expenditure was yet to fully recover. tralisation and Development recently visited the South-East Asian area to promote sales It is relevant to mention that, in con­ of the State's goods and to seek opportuni­ junction with the Federal Government, over ties for suitable joint manufacturing ven­ 37 million dollars were available to public tures. The visits undertaken by this mission authorities and councils for the relief of and similar missions in recent years have unemployment during the last financial year. been very effective in sponsoring increased A pleasing feature of the economic up­ sales of Australian products and identifying swing has been the recovery in the rural potential markets in this area. sector. While revaluation and the Common As part of its overall development activi­ Market have created problems for some ties, the Government has continued its primary industries, good prices for wool policy of encouraging the establishment and and the buoyant state of the meat industry expansion of industries in the State's coun­ have combined to dispel much of the earlier try regions. In 1972-73, approximately uncertainty. High export prices for rural 10.7 million dollars were spent or firmly products have also contributed to Austra­ committed in providing assistance to no less lia's favourable balance of payments than 140 country industries. position. A new phase in implementation of the The major problem has been the con­ Government's decentralization policy has tinuous rise in costs. Industrial hold-ups been introduced by the selection of Bath­ have caused losses. urst/ Orange as the State's first pilot growth Wage rates have continued to rise strongly centre and by the Government's decision to at about 10 per cent per annum, and prices re-locate the Central Mapping Authority in by nearly 8 per cent. The effects upon the that area. economy and the State's budget have been The proposal for the development of of continuing concern to the New South Albury/Wodonga as a further growth centre Wales Government. is also fully supported by the New South With the assistance of a special advance Wales Government and details of the joint of 15 million dollars from the Common­ arrangements to apply have been the subject wealth, approved in 1972, and unexpectedly of discussion with representatives of the buoyant stamp duty revenues, the Govern­ Commonwealth and Victorian Govern­ ment finished the year with a budget deficit ments. of only just over 3 million dollars. The Government recognizes that decen­ The carry-forward effect of wage in­ tralization can be stimulated also by de­ creases granted in 1972-73 and the cost of velopment of the regional tourist industry further increases that seem to be inevitable and four Tourist Development areas have in 1973-74 will, however, create an ex­ been selected to receive priority for Gov­ ceedingly difficult task for the forthcoming ernment expenditure and assistance to Budget. achieve accelerated development for tourist Opening of Session [8 Auo., 1973] Opening of Session promotion. The areas are Coifs Harbour/ megawatt pumped-storage hydro-electric Grafton, Snowy Mountains, Central West station on the Shoalhaven River south of and Port Macquarie/Hastings. Sydney is under construction. The establishment in the past year of The past year has seen major advances Regional and District Advisory Councils in the implementation of the Government's throughout the various areas of the State programme of water, soil and forest con­ represents a major step forward in the Gov­ servation works. ernment's regional re-organization pro­ Work on Stage II of the 45 million dol­ posals. It is expected that these Councils, lar Copeton Darn project on the Gwydir which include private citizens and repre­ River is now complete and preliminary work sentatives of local and State administrations, has commenced on the Windamere and will play an important and continuing role Brogo Dams. in co-ordinating the planning and develop­ ment of their regions. An additional weir on the Darling River has been completed at Louth and work on The programme for the re-development the Marebone Weir, Macquarie River, has of the ports of Sydney, Newcastle and commenced. Action is proceeding towards Botany Bay has proceeded ahead of the calling of tenders for the construction schedule. of two major weirs on the Namoi River. Work at Newcastle, where a major pro­ A substantially increased building pro­ gramme is in progress, has included dredg­ gramme is being undertaken by the Housing ing to restore the main Steelworks Channel Commission and an extensive programme to a depth of 36 feet. of land acquisition for future Government Also, despite adverse weather conditions, housing activity is being continued. substantial progress has been made by the Almost 300 dwellings are currently under contractor on Stage 1 of the Botany Bay construction at Macquarie Fields as part port development scheme. of the first neighbourhood to be built by In addition, a contract has been let for the Housing Commission in the Campbell­ the deepening of the two harbours at Port town/Camden New Town Area. Kembla. This work, when completed, will During last year 906 units for elderly permit the entry of vessels in the 100,000 persons were completed under the joint pro­ tonnes range and make Port Kembla one of the deepest harbours in Australia. gramme financed from State and Common­ wealth funds. Following completion at Red­ To meet the demands of industry and of fern this year of the first high rise block the increasing population, expansion of the for elderly persons, work has now been State's electricity generating capacity has commenced on the construction of two also continued. thirty-storey tower blocks at Waterloo which At Vales Point Power Station, work has will provide 464 units for aged persons who commenced on the installation of two addi­ wish to live close to the City and who have tional 660 megawatt units to meet the ex­ no objection to living in flats serviced by pected electricity requirements of the latter lifts. part of the decade. During the past financial year the Metro­ A 500 megawatt coal-fired power unit politan Water, Sewerage and Drainage at Wallerawang is scheduled for commis­ Board spent 105 million dollars on new sioning in the 1975-76 period, and a 240 water, sewerage and drainage works and 4 Opening of Session [COUNCIL] Opening of Session Jaid more than 600 miles of water mains A major re-organization of the adminis­ and sewers. This resulted in extension of tration of .the State's health services was water supplies to an additional 60,000 effected in April, 1973, by the amalgamation people, and sewerage services to an addi­ of the former Hospitals Commission and tional 100,000 people. rthe Department of Health into the Health For the current year, the Board has bud­ Commission of New South Wales. ~eted for an expenditure exceeding 140 mil­ The Health Commission is now in the Bion dollars on new works. process of planning for greater decentraliza­ In addition, in country areas, 65 water tion of the administration of health services supply and sewerage projects are under con­ on a regional basis. Emphasis is being struction and a further 43 major projects are placed on the planning of community health scheduled for early construction. services as alternatives to hospitalization whenever this is practicable and desirable in The Government's ovemll programme for the interests of patiellits. the planning and construction of public buildings is one of considerable magnitude. Substantial improvements are planned for public transport. The Public Transport In school construction, plans have been Commission is working towards greater co­ prepared for the early construction of more ordination of all forms of transport and is than 500 projects. Major projects, costing io studying customer requirements with the aim excess of $100,000 each, are also being of meeting them in the best practicable undemaken at 65 high schools and 58 pri­ way. mary schools. An all time record amount will be spent on education in the present The Government has commissioned a financial year. survey by private consultants of the feasibility of new transport services in parts New colleges of advanced education, in­ of Sydney's waterways. cluding a multi-discipline college at Lismore, are to be developed. Satisfactory progress is being made on the eastern suburbs railway and the elec­ In the primary and secondary sectors, en­ trification of ·the line from Blackoown to larged powers and greater discretion are Riverstone, where preliminary work is now being given to school principals in school in progress, is expected to be completed by management and organ~ation, and far ·the end of 1974. Delivery of an order for reaching p·roposals for greater community 106 new double-deck submban rail carriages involvement in educational decisions, will commence in October. through school councils and regional -boards Two new 800 passenger ferries will be of educatiOn., are being considered. piaced in service on the harbour early next A State-wide building programme involv­ year. ing the construction of new police stations A further step in carrying out the Gov­ is under way. Work on eight of these ernment's undertaking to abolish charges stations is already in progress and planning under the State Transport (Co-ordinllltion) is proceeding on a further twenty-one with Act on road transport competing with the a view to construction commencing as soon publicly-owned transport services was im­ as finandally practicable. plemented on 1st July 1ast and all classes The $3 million Parramatta Coum House of road journeys not already freed of co­ and police station complex is expected to be ordination charges will be exempted from oompletec:! early in 1974. 1st January next. Opening of Session [8 Auo., 1973] Opening of Session 5 As already announced, it is proposed to In other areas of Government activity grant an increased motor vehicle weight tax a comprehensive liquid waste survey concession for primary producers' vehicles has been completed by the Metro­ later this year. politan Waste Disposal Authority, which will now proceed with a pro­ General improvements over the whole of posal for the provision of modem the Stalte's main roads are .proceeding, in­ treatment and disposal facilities to meet cluding a vigorous bridge and freeway co~ the needs of industry. The authority struction programme. is also working. towards a solution to During the .past year, fully surfaced pave­ the community's solid waste problems; ments have been provided on both the ocean research has been carried out Barrier and Mitchell highways and bridges by the New South Wales Fisheries at Camden, Balranald, Hay, Boolaroo and Branch in territorial, extra-territorial Smithtown have been completed. and international waters to assess the commercial potential of deep-sea fish Major bridges now under construction in­ and prawn stocks in selected areas and clude the new bridge over the Hawkesbury to improve the techniques and gear River for. the Sydney-Newcastle Freeway CUITently used in the fishing industry; and bridges over the Bega River at Bega, despite the upsurge in prospects in the the Murrumbidgee River at Gundagai, the rural community there are many far­ Wilson River at Telegraph Point and the mers who, because of drought and Georges River at Alfords Point. other circumstances, still need the assistance of the Rural Assistance A tender of ·almost $2 million was ac­ Board and the Commonwealth has cepted recently for a major part of the con­ agreed to extension of the scheme -of struction of the Kings Cross Tunnel which, assistance for a further three years; when completed, will give considerable re­ in the last twelve months there has lief to traffic in that area. been considerable growth in the The programme for the recruitment of national parks system in New South additional police fur duty both in the Syd-. Wales. Nearly 250,000 hectares have ney region and centres throughout the State been added to the system, including has been successful. The police force is six national parks, one historic site ·and almost ·at the full authorized strength of nine nature reserves; 7,912 men and women. It is proposed that Reiby School, a new and modern train­ this figure will be increased progressively ing school for girls at Campbelltown. during the 1973-74 financial year and that was opened recently. recruiting will continue. Over the past few years, the Govern­ Statutory and adminisrtr.ative changes have ment has progressively intensified its com­ been implemented following a review of the prehensive pollution control and environ­ coul'it hiemrchy and procedures in the ment protection programme. In addition to District Court have been modernized and now requiring all public authorities to give streamlined as a result of the enactment of specia1 consideration to environmental fac­ the Disrtriot Court Bill earlier tliis year. tors in planning and approving development proposals, steps have been taken to encour­ A simpler and more modem style has age community participation in the resolu­ been adopted in the drafting of rthis State's tion of significant issues by the holding of legislation. public environmental impact inquiries. 6 ·Opening of Session [COUNCIL] Opening of Session The centralist policies of the new Com­ A bill is being prepared to provide appro­ monwealth Government elected last Decem­ priate remedies for persons receiving un­ ber will have significant implications for solicited goods or services or bogus in­ the Government of New South Wales. voices. A bill to deal with misrepresentation My Ministers are firmly convinced that or fraud associated with the sale of new and the most satisfactory way of developing second-hand motor vehicles is also being Australia and its resources, and of main­ prepared. taining the system under which so much The report of the Law Reform Commis­ has been accomplished, is through federated sion on Appeals in Administration has been States which are strong and financially in­ receiving consideration and a Bill to pro­ dependent. Ministers consider that the vide for the creation of an office in the federal system will operate to the best ad­ nature of an ombudsman will be placed vantage if all elements in it work together before you. as partners in the national interest. This is not to say that there is not a Amendments to the Legal Practitioners need for a re-assessment of the respective (Legal Aid) Act, the Legal Assistance Act, responsibilities of the Commonwealth and the Criminal Injuries Compensation Act, the the States from time to time in the light Defamation Act and the Jury Act are pro­ of new trends and, as honourable members posed and your approval will be sought to a know, questions arising in this area are to bill relating to the rehabilitation of offenders. be considered at the forthcoming Constitu­ tional Convention. A bill to ratify the new Common­ wealth/ State Housing Agreement is in MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY, course of preparation and the Conveyancing The Budget for 1973-74 will shortly be (Strata Titles) Amendment Bill, which will placed before you and you will be asked give effect to changes found necessary in to provide for the public services of the the light of experience in the administration State. A carefully planned programme of of the law relating to Strata Title proper­ ·works and services has been drawn up and ties, will be placed before you. estimates of expenditure and amounts pro­ posed to be voted from the General Loan You will be asked to endorse a Bill for Account for these purposes will be sub­ the establishment of growth centre develop­ mitted for your consideration. ment authorities and to provide for the stabilization of land values in such centres. HONOURABLE MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLA· TIVE CoUNCIL, AND MEMBERS OF THE My Ministers also propose to introduce LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY, bills to amend the Superannuation Act, the A comprehensive programme of legisla­ Police Regulation (Superannuation) Act, tion will be submitted for your considera­ the Public Service Act, the Education Act tion by my Ministers during the session. and the Technical Education Act. The Government proposes to introduce measures to provide additional safeguards Measures relating to the control of pollu­ . for members of the community and to tion and the protection of the environment strengthen the law in relation to consumer which will be submitted for your considera­ protection generally. tion will include a comprehensive Noise Opening of Session [8 Auo., 1973] Government Administration 7 Control Bill and a bill to replace with re­ ADMINISTRATION OF THE vised and improved legislation the present GOVERNMENT law re!ating to the sale and use of pesticides. The PRESIDENT reported the following message from His Excellency the Adminis­ Your approval will also be sought to trator of the Government: bills to authorize construction of water con­ JOHN R. KERR, servation works at Bowling Alley Point on Administrator. the Peel River, on Split Rock Creek, on The Honourable John Robert Kerr, Adminis­ trator of the Government of the State of New Boree Creek and on the Gwydir River. South Wales, has the honour to inform the Legislative Council that, consequent on the Other measures to be submitted for your death of the Lieutenant-Governor, the Honour­ consideration will include a Farm Water able Sir Leslie Herron, K.B.E., C.M.G., on 3rd May, 1973, he this day took the Oath Storages Subsidies BiU, a Public Parks and of Allegiance and the Official and Judicial Oath Reserves Bill, a Wheat Industry Stabilisation before the President of the Court of Appeal of the Supreme Court of New South Wales and Bill, a Wheat Quotas Bill and a Farm Water assumed the administration of the Government Supplies (Amendment) Bill. of the State. Government House, The Local Government( Elections) Bill, Sydney, 4 May, 1973. the Fruit-growing Reconstruction Agree­ Motion (by the Hon. J. B. M. Fuller) ment Bill, the Institute of Rural Studies Bill agreed to: and the Travel Agents Bill which were in­ ( 1) That this House desires to express its thanks to the Honourable John Robert Kerr, troduced during the last Session will be re­ C.M.G., the Chief Justice of the Supreme introduced. Court of the State of New South Wales, for his communication of 4 May, 1973, informing Members that, consequent upon the death of Other important bills to be submitted for the Lieutenant-Governor, the Honourable Sir your consideration will include the Youth Leslie Herron, K.B.E., C.M.G., on 3 and Community Services Bill, a bill to in­ May, 1973, he had assumed the administration of the Government of New South Wales on 4 corporate the New South Wales Film Coun­ May, 1973. cil and bills to provide for adoption by the (2) That the foregoing Resolution be com­ municated by the President to His Excellency Metropolitan, Hunter District and Broken the Governor, for transmission to the Honour­ Hill Water Boards of a new rating system able John Robert Kerr, C.M.G. based on Unimproved Capital Values. ADMINISTRATION OF THE Legislation to amend the Land Tax Act, GOVERNMENT the Pay-roll Tax Act, the Stamp Duties Act The PRESIDENT reported the following and the Valuation of Land Act is also being message from His Excellency the Governor: prepared. A. R. CUTLER, Governor. Other measures will be placed before you. The Governor of the State of New South Wales, Sir Roden Cutler, has the honour to I now leave you to the discharge of your inform the Legislative Council that, following his return from an official visit to the United important duties with the earnest prayer Kingdom, he has this day re-assumed the that, under Divine Guidance, your labours administration of the Government of the State. may conduce to the welfare and happiness Government House, of all sections of the community. Sydney, 28 Afay, 1973. Motion (by the Hon. J. B. M. Fuller) The Assembly then withdrew. agreed to: ( 1) That this House desires to express its [The President left the chair at 12.51 p.m. thanks to His Excellency the Governor for his The House resumed at 4.30 p.m.) communication of 28 May, 1973, informing Government Administration [COUNCIL] Law of Evidence Bill

Members that following his return from an (Temple, Pa), be elected as the represen­ official visit to the United Kingdom he had that tative of the Legislative Council on the day re-assumed the administration of the Government of New South Wales. Council of the Macquarie University, in (2) That the foregoing Resolution be com­ pursuance of the provisions of section 10 municated by the President to His Excellency of the Macquarie University Act, 1964. the Governor. REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGISLATIVE ASSENT TO BILLS COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL OF THE Royal assent to the following bills re­ UNIVERSITY OF NEWCASTLE ported: The PRESIDENT reported the receipt of an Aborigines (Amendment) Bill acknowledgement from His Excellency the Arbitration (Foreign Awards and Agree­ Lieutenant~Governor of a communication ments) Bill conveying the terms of a resolution that the Electricity Commission (State Coal Mines) Bill Hon. Richmond William Manyweathers be Firearms and Dangerous Weapons Bill. elected as the representative of the Legis­ Foreign Judgments (Reciprocal Enforce­ lative Council on the Council of the Uni­ ment) Bill Housing and Public Works (Amendment) versity of Newcastle, in pursuance of the Bill provisions of section 10 of the University Liquor (Amendment) Bill of Newcastle Act, 1964. Mining Bill New South Wales Retirement Benefits (Amendment) Bill REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGISLATIVE Parliamentary Electorates and Elections COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL OF THE (Amendment) Bill UNIVERSITY OF NEW ENGLAND Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (Amend­ ment) Bill The PRESIDENT reported the receipt of an Printing and Newspapers . Bill acknowledgement from His Excellency the Private Irrigation Districts and Water Lieutenant-Governor of a communication (Amendment) Bill Municipality of Hurstville (Wolli Creek, conveying the terms of a resolution: that the Kingsgrove, Public Reserve Land Sale) Bill Hon. Louis Adri-an Solomons, B.A., LL.B., be elected as the representative of the Legis­ REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGISLATIVE lative Council on the Council of the Uni­ COUNCIL ON THE SENATE OF THE versity of New England, in pursuance of UNIVERSITY OF SYDNEY the provisions of section 10 of the Uni­ versity of New England Act, 1953. The PRESIDENT reported the receipt of an acknowledgement from His Excellency the Lieutenant-Governor of a communication REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL OF THE conveying the terms of a resolution that the UNIVERSITY OF NEW SOUTH WALES Hon. Frederick Maclean Hewitt be elected a fellow of the Senate of the University of The PRESIDENT reported the ,receipt of an Sydney as the representative of the Legis­ acknowledgement from His Excellency the lative Council, in pursuance of the provi­ Lieutenant-Governor of a communication sions of section 7 of the University and conveying the terms of a resolution that the University Colleges Act, 1900. Hon. John Bryan Munro Fuller be elected as the representative of the Legislative Council on the Council of the Universitv REPRESENTATIVE OF THE LEGISLATIVF <;>f New South Wales, in pursuance of th~ COUNCIL ON THE COUNCIL OF THE provisions of section 8 of the University MACQUARIE UNIVERSITY of New South Wales Act, 196~. The PRESIDENT reported the receipt of an acknowledgement from His Excellency the LAW OF EVIDENCE BILL (pro formd) Lieutenant-Governor of a communication conveying the terms of a resolution that the FIRST READING Hon. Roger· August Alfred Faes de Bryon­ Bill presented and, on motion by the Faes, K.C.H.S., M.A., M.Sc., Ph.D. Hon. J. B. M. Fuller, read a first time. Temporary Chairmen [8 Auo., 1973] Death of Sir Leslie Herron 9 TEMPORARY CHAIRMEN OF first as a justice of the Supreme Court of COMMITTEES New South Wales, then from 1962 to 1972 The PRESIDENT nominated the Hon. as Chief Justice and from April, 1972, till Richard Kelyn:ack Evans, the Hon. Rich­ the time of his death, as Lieutenant-Gov­ mond William Manyweathers and the Hon. ernor. His appointment as Lieutenant­ Edna Sirius Roper .to act as Temporary Governor crowned a career of outstanding Chairmen of Committees during the present service and during the period he held this session of Parliament. high office he displayed great courage in carrying out his official duties while fully aware that he was seriously ill. VACANT SEAT ISSUE OF WRIT Sir Leslie Herron presided over the Supreme Court during a period of great The PRESIDENT reported the receipt from growth and re-organization. He devoted His Excellency the Governor of a message himself to the problems of law reform intimating that, with the advice of the Legis­ and as chairman of the New South Wales lative Council, he had issued a wri:t for the Law Reform Committee made several trips election on Thursday, 30th August, 1973, overseas to investigate the working-par­ of a member of the Legisiative Council to ticularly in England-of the combination fill the vacancy caused by the resignation of of the common law and equity jurisdic­ the Hon. Ernest Gerard Wright. tions of the courts. During his period as Writ read by the Clerk of the Parliaments. Chief Justice the Court of Appeal was estab­ The PRESIDENT directed that the taking lished as an entity separate from the Full of the votes of members of the Legislative Court. As an advocate prior to his judicial Council for the election of a member to the appointment he was renowned for his down­ Council be set down as an order of the day to-earth manner and his rise of terms that for Thursday, 30th August, 1973, and in­ could be readily understood by the most timated that on that day the taking of votes humble member of a jury. When the law had would take precedence of all other business. to be argued his arguments, like his later judgments, were always comprehensible. While presiding over the Full Court of the DEATH OF THE HONOURABLE SIR Supreme Court he brought a ready common­ LESLIE JAMES HERRON, K.B.E., C.M.G., sense and clarity of expression to the judg­ K.STJ., LIEUTENANT-GOVERNOR OF ments delivered in that court. He won THE STATE OF NEW SOUTH WALES the highest respect of all who knew him The Hon. J. B. M. FULLER (Minister and he will be remembered in all walks for Decentmlisation 'and Development and of life as a man of great personal affec­ Vice-President of the Executive Council) tion-a humane man who greatly enjoyed [4.40]: I move: the company of his fellows. Despite his ( 1 ) That this House desires to express and high offices, he mixed with all classes of to place on record its deep sense of the loss people with ease, and delighted in doing this State has sustained by the death of the Honourable Sir Leslie James Herron, K.B.E., so. He had a high sense of community C.M.G., K.StJ., Lieutenant-Governor of the service and a great aptitude for personal State of New South Wales. leadership. His philosophy of life was, I (2) That the President convey to the family believe, best summed up by himself at the the sympathy and sorrow of the Members of time of his retirement from the Supreme the Legislative Council of New South Wales in the loss they have sustained. Court Bench when he said, "I believe in the common touch and the rights of the New South Wales lost one of its most dis­ tinguished sons and one of its most eminent common man". jurists with the death in St Vincent's Hos­ In private life Sir Leslie Herron followed pital on 3rd May last of the Lieutenant­ a variety of activities. He was a big man Governor of New South Wales, Sir Leslie with a commanding presence and a strong James Herron. Sir Leslie gave to this State personality. He possessed a ready wit and over thirty years of outstanding service- was an accomplished ·storyteller. He took 10 Death of Hon. [COUNCIL] Sir Leslie Herron an interest in almost everything. Most hon­ as the Bush Children's Hostels Foundation ourable members, having heard Sir Leslie of New South Wales. As I said earlier, as an after-dinner speaker at a gathering this State has lost one of its most eminent at a bowling club or some other social citizens--one who was a splendid com­ function, know that he had the ability to panion and who put back into life as much express himself in a way that appealed to as he extracted from it, or even more. That all people, regardless of their occupations. this is the feeling of the community as a This is something that not every chief jus­ whole was evident at his well-attended and tice, every Supreme Court judge, or for that impressive funeral service at St Stephen's matter every member of parliament, can Church. It was a wonderful tribute to a do. He endeared himself to all. very great man whose death is a sad loss Sir Leslie was born at Mosman on 22nd to Australian society. On behalf of the May, 1902, a son of Henry Herron. He House and for myself I extend to Lady was educated at Sydney Grammar School Herron, Mrs Crawford and other members and the University of Sydney, graduating of the family our deep sympathy in their with honours in law in 1925. He was sad loss. called to the bar the same year at the The Hon. N. K. WRAN (Leader of the early age of 23. His professional success Opposition) [4.47]: Although the late Chief was extensive and rapid, especially at com­ Justice died on Thursday, 3rd May, this mon law. Sir Leslie took silk in 1939 and year, it seems just a short time ago that was appointed to the Supreme Court bench so many of his brethren, members of the in February, 1941, at the age of 38. He legal profession and his friends, foregath­ succeeded Dr Evatt as Chief Justice in ered in the Banco Court in the Supreme 1962 and he was knighted in 1966. He was Court of New South Wales on 19th May, appointed Lieutenant-Governor of New 1972, to bid him farewell and Godspeed South Wales in April, 1972, and retired as on the occasion of his retirement as Chief Chief Justice on 22nd May, 1972. In 1930 Justice. On that occasion Sir Bernard Sir Leslie married Andree Leverrier, daugh­ Sugerman, who was then the president of ter of Mr Frank Leverrier, K.C., an eminent ·the Court of Appeal, referred to Sir Leslie member of the bar. He is survived by Lady Herron as: !Herron and a daughter, Mrs J. C. Crawford. A most capable common lawyer, a just and Sir Leslie, who was chairman of the New upright judge, and before and above ail-in South Wales Rugby Union from 1933 to all that these simple English words convey­ 1939 and president from 1943 to 1956, be­ a good man. came a life member of that body. He was Sir Leslie, who at that time was the twelfth the first president of the Australian Rugby in succession of distinguished Chief Justices Union in 1948 and represented Australia who have presided over the Supreme Court, .three times on the International Rugby was indeed a good man. As a citizen, as Board. He was quite a keen golfer and the Minister has related to honourable mem­ bowler and was president of the Australian Golf Club from 1943 until his death. He bers here, his communal activities were was president of the New South Wales widespread and numerous. His interest in Swimming Association for fifteen years, be­ sport sprang from his own outstanding ath­ coming a life member, and at the time of letic achievements as a youth and young his death he was president of the Sydney man. As the Minister said, Sir Leslie Cricket Ground Trust. Sir Leslie had ex­ worked with great zeal and devotion in the tensive experience over a wide range of field of administration of rugby football, sporting activities, not only as an admin­ istrator but also as a player in the sports golf and swimming. He was a leader in the that he liked so much. St John Ambulance Association, being president of the New South Wales branch, By way of variety, he was president of the New South Wales branch of the StJohn and his participation in and assistance to Ambulance Association. To these activities charitable activities are well known to all he added innumerable charitable tasks such of us. The Hon. 1. B. M. Fuller] Detllh oJ Hon. [8 Auo., 1973] 11 As a practising lawyer Sir Leslie pos­ that he would live long to enjoy his retire­ sessed considerable capacity and, in what ment and to bring to play his great skills and was an unusually rapid translation from the capacities further into the public life of this outer to the inner bar, he took silk in the State. As we all know, he died while as year 1939. It was only shortly after this, in Lieutenant-Governor he was administering 1941, that he was appointed to the Supreme the State in the absence of His Excellency Court of New South Wales as a puisne Sir Roden Cutler. So passed off the scene judge, being 39 years old upon that appoint­ one who, as Sir Bernard said, was a good ment. Sir Leslie distinguished himself over man. the years as a judge. He displayed the quali­ Sir Leslie's monument is in the changes ties of wisdom, patience, understanding, in the court of which he was architect and tolerance and compassion in the day to day the contributions he made to so many de­ workings of the court. When he became serving community undertakings. His death Chief Justice in the year 1962 his appoint­ was sincerely and greatly mourned by those ment met with the warmest approbation of who had had the privilege to be associated, his fellow judges, the legal profession and however passingly, with him during his life­ the community generally. time. As a barrister from time to time I Sir Leslie spent some nine and a half had the privilege of appearing in courts years in the office of Chief Justice and in presided over by Sir Leslie Herron. The the same manner as he brought distinc­ experience shared by myself and other tion to every facet of communal and official lawyers was that of a man who was intent life in which he participated, he made an on doing justice in accordance witlt the outstanding contribution to the administra­ precepts of the law, at all times conscious tion of justice while he occupied the most of human frailty and shortcoming, free of important judicial office in our State. undue pomp but nonetheless touched with While he was Chief Justice there were real dignity. In paying this tribute to his many changes in the constitution of the memory I should like to extend for myself court over which he presided and Sir and on behalf of my colleagues to Leslie played a leading role in the develop­ Lady Herron and to his family our deep ment of law reform and the changes in the sympathy and assure them that this State structure and procedures of the court. In­ owes much to Sir Leslie Herron. deed, such was his contribution that the The Hon. L. D. SERISIER [4.56]: My present Chief Justice of New South Wales, association with Les Herron was one that Mr Justice Kerr, in a tribute to Sir Leslie's began many years ago when I was a rela­ memory delivered in the Supreme Court on tively young administrator in rugby union. 7th May this year, passed these remarks: I remember thaJt in 1946 he was president of the New South Wales Rugby Union and I am able to say that the Court I inherited from Sir Leslie, in transition though it was, I was secretary and later president-as quite its plans and policies merging but not fully a young man--of a junior rugby union. In in operation, was one which carried the mark those days rugby union in New South . . . of his particular genius. Wales in its junior area was managed Later, the present Chief Justice in referring through a wonderful old man by the name to the difficulties encountered in these times of Charles Fairland. With 'the growth of of great expansion reform and change in the code in the decade after the war years the Supreme Court said: a substantial increase had taken pJace in the number of teams, which brought with it an I can say of Sir Leslie, as he said of Sir administmtion problem consequent upon Kenneth Street in this Court on the occasion of the ceremonial sitting at the time of the that growth. Eventually the question arose death of Sir Kenneth Street-si monumentum whether a breakaway should be made from requiris circumspice. ,the existing rugby union. Ultimately a situa­ tion of confliot arose between the newer Upon Sir Leslie's retirement, so many body, which I 'l'ept"esen:ted, and the older of us who were present at his formal body that rthe lail:e Charlie Fairland bad farewell in May of last year were hopeful established and administered for so long. 12 Death of Hon. [COUNCIL] Sir Leslie Herron Confrontation brought conflict and even­ at churches in country areas at the open­ tually the stage in New South Wales was ing of the Supreme Court sessions on coun­ reached when the New South Wales Rugby try circuit. In this area Sir Leslie Herron Union assessed the situation. In those cir­ made an important impact on the people cumstances Leslie Herron came in and un­ of New South Wales, and he did probably dertook the arbitration that was so necessary more than any other judicial figure to ex­ at that time. plain, in understandable terms, the judicial and law-enforcement apparatus of this As a young man I learned at first hand State. of the 'ability of Sir Leslie in dealing with people and of his great capacity. Out of I make no pretentions to being able to that conflict we established a substantial assess Sir Leslie Herron's capacity as a junior rugby union--one, of course, much judge, in a strict legal sense, but I can different from that existing today. I came say that, as a sportsman and as chairman to know Sir Leslie well during the late of the tribunals that ultimately assess the forties and the early fifties when he was damages to which a plaintiff is entitled, still president of the New South Wales and in other areas where he took an interest Rugby Union and one of the top sporting in applying the law and the judicial administrators. He was a man who had the apparatus of New South Wales, he made a common touch and the common language. significant contribution to our State. He had the capacity ·to assess a situation of It was with great sorrow that I and conflict and yet avoid confrontation, draw­ many of us in the three areas I have men­ ing people into doing things constructive. tioned learned of the sudden death of Sir In those days, when Sir Leslie's office Leslie Herron. It is my privilege to join was important but nonetheless not so with other members of the House in ex­ eminent as his later office, he certainly pressing to his widow and family my sincere showed the characteristics that he demon­ condolences. strated so well in serving the State. When The Hon. A. SOLOMONS [5.3]: I can I came to practise a little later as a solicitor L. but agree with what has been said on botb in the jurisdiction involving assessments of sides of the House in support of this sad damages in common law-and all solicitors motion. I wish to add three short thoughts. concerned with the case of their clients First, I go back to a short poem that know that success depends in no small ex­ probably every member of this House re­ tent on the kindness of the chairman of the cited at some during during his childhood­ tribunal and ·the capacity of the judge ,to sum Abou Ben Adhem-in which it was men­ up-1 came to rely on Mr Justice Herron, tioned that the highest of all virtues is to as we knew him then, as a man capable of love one's fellow man sincerely. This was putting forward in his summing up all mat­ Sir Leslie Herron's most outstanding charac­ ters relevant and fair in support of the te-ristic, for he did indeed have a deep plaintiff's case. love for his fellow man. This was ex­ During the whole period of my associa­ hibited in every facet of his long and dis­ tion with Sir Leslie Herron we lawyers tinguished career; in particular he loved on his circuit were never at a loss or the law and lawyers. However, his love of worried; we were always happy to know his fellow man was displayed in perhaps that he could deal with the cases in which an unusual way. Though some members of we were interested. In later years, after the legal profession occupying judicial office he had been appointed Chief Justice of are prone to ascend to the Olympian New South Wales, I met him again in the heights that the public sometimes ascribe country ·areas of the State, where he intro­ to that position, the former Chief Justice duced a .new policy to bring the courts to always remained a man among men, the people. For the first time in country approachable by all members of the pro­ areas we participated in the red masses, fession. Indeed, be had an incredible know­ or communion services, that were conducted ledge of working lawyers in this State, and The Hon. L. D. Serisier) Death of Hon. [8 AUG., 1973] Sir Leslie Herron 13 few lawyers encountered him in the street being said in this Chamber this afternoon without his immediately knowing them by reflects the sentiments of all thinking people name and location. in this State. I remember Sir Leslie Herron once say­ The Hon. F. W. BOWEN [5.7]: I join ing that his interest in people had sprung not with other honourable members who have cnly from his participation in the legal spoken to this motion of condolence, but profession but also from his experience in I do not wish to talk of Sir Leslie Herron sport and sporting activities, which gave as a lawyer and a brilliant jurist; I would him a wide knowledge of human experi­ rather speak of him as a man to whom ence. He took the view that in sport one people went in time of need. We are all encounters a man at his best and worst at aware of Sir Leslie Herron's history-his the same time in a narrow field, and in humanity, dignity and ability to deal with this way he was able to make the best questions of law-but I believe that it was judgment of his fellow beings. not in these fields that Sir Leslie Herron Finally, all these qualities were summed really hit his peak. I believe that his out­ up by the fact that when Sir Leslie Herron standing quality was his ability to deal with undertook the rather complex overhaul of people, and to assist people and the com­ the practice and procedures of the Supreme munity generally. Court, he did not find it below his dignity My own association with Sir Leslie to go into the country, among the members Herron goes back a considerable number cf the legal profession, to indicate the way of years, to when it was my privilege to he believed the new system would work. know Clarrie Martin, who was then the He sat down with lawyers and discussed Attorney-General of New South Wales. hard-core, practical problems that he knew Clarrie Martin was friendly with Les would arise, and explained the manner in Herron, and it was indeed a privilege and which those problems would be overcome. a stimulation to hear the interesting con­ I agree with the Leader of the Opposition, versations between those two gentlemen. I that it is a matter of great sadness that a owe a great deal to Sir Leslie Herron for man who had so much to offer in retire­ what I learned from him over the years. I ment-with a wealth of knowledge and a talked to him about a number of subjects, diversity of interests-should be taken from which he discussed in a commonsense way the community so soon after he had laid that I could undersand. I refer to matters down the reins of his judicial office. that I found difficult to understand if they A story I heard from his own lips might were explained to me in either written form well be applied to Sir Leslie Herron. He or orally by a lawyer. told me that Mr Justice Pring, a distin­ Sir Leslie Herron was fond of the water, guished predecessor of his on the bench of and I remember two or three years ago the Supreme Court of New South Wales, when I was fishing in Pittwater I suddenly when retiring and receiving eulogies, stated: saw a boat approaching me, propelled by a "Gentlemen, I have done my best. No man man who was rowing vigorously. I well ean do more: no man should do less." I remember how I expressed my opinion of believe that those words are as applicable the man's rowing ability and his ancestors to Sir Leslie Herron as to any man I have -and all the things one says in moments encountered. of duress. Honourable members can imagine my surprise when the dinghy swung I join with other honourable members in round and I saw that the rower was Sir :supporting this motion of condolence to Leslie Herron. Lady Herron and Mrs Crawford, and I He complimented me on my delivery trust that they will feel that even now, some and on the way in which I had approached time after their bereavement, our thoughts the bench. He pointed out that I had are with them, and that in some way we committed five or six offences in express­ might help them in the sad loss they have ing an opinion of his ability as a rower, :suffered. Further, I am sure that what is and then offered to appear on my behalf; 14 Death of Sir Leslie Herron [COUNCIL] Questions without Notice

he added that undoubtedly I would have growth centre has been transferred to the had an unbeatable case for damages had he control of a Minister with a personal elec­ run into me. We then repaired the motor toral interest in

in order that the Government will be in a boards in regard to water rates and follow­ position to utilize the money that I expect ing property revaluations, enormous in­ the Commonwealth will set aside in its creases in these rates have occurred, rang­ coming Budget for acquisition of land ing from 40 per cent to 80 per cent in the necessary for a start to be made in this Ashfield municipality. As there has been financial year in the major part of this considerable flooding and surcharging of growth-centre development. sewers in that municipality will the Minis­ ter make representations to the Metropoli­ EMPLOYEE PARTICIPATION IN tan \Vater Sewerage aad Drainage Board MANAGEMENT for the extra money that is being obtained The Hon. J. P. DUCKER: I should like from ratepayers in the Ashfield municipal­ to give some relief to the Lea:der of the ity to be used to finance work aimed at Government in this House by addressing a attempts to stop the surcharging of sewers question through him to the Minister for and the flooding of properties in that muni­ Labour and Industry, in relation to his visit cipality? overseas, which I am sure members will agree was an extensive one. My question The Hon. F. M. HEWITT: As the hon­ is related to employee participation in man­ ourable member's question comes wilthin the agement, which I think honourable mem­ province of the Department of Public Works bers will acknowledge is becoming an im­ I shall convey it to the responstble Minister. portant issue illltemationally, particularly in western Europe and free Europe. Will the EMPLOYEE PARTICIPATION IN Minis·ter indica.te whether he had an oppor­ MANAGEMENT tunity 1to study this concept? Will he an­ The Hon. J. P. DUCKER: I ask this nounce his value judgment on whether it is question to supplement one I have already a significant contribution to industrial asked of the Minister for Labour and In­ peace? Will .the Minis·ter say whether the dus.try. In his earlier reply the Minister Government intends rto legislate ·to initiate intima

WATER RATES GOVERNOR'S SPEECH: ADDRESS IN The Hon. W. C. PETERS: I address my REPLY question without notice .to the Minister for FffiST DAY'S DEBATE Labour and Industry. Is the Minister aware The PRESIDENT: I report the receipt of a that since the recent amendments to the copy of the Speech made this day by His legislation applying to the various water Excellency the Governor. As it is available 2 18 Governor's Speech: [COUNCIL] Address in Reply to members, and as members heard the energy and capacity in all the many activi­ Speech in person, with the consent of the ties of his life as well as a fatherly figure House I shall not ask the Clerk to read it. who afforded a helping hand to all who came in contact with him. The Hon. W. J. HOLT [5.31]: I move: I should like also to pay tribute to That the following Address be adopted and the memory of the late Hon. Maurice presented by the Whole House to the Gov­ ernor, in reply to the Speech which His Ex­ Shipton, a revered member of this House cellency had been pleased to make to both for many years who served with distinc­ Houses of Parliament, viz.: tion in this Parliament, in the dairy indus­ To His Excellency Sir ARTHUR RODEN CUTLER, try and in many public affairs, including upon whom has been conferred the decoration of the Victoria Cross, Knight particularly the Surf Life Saving Associa­ Commander of the Most Distinguished tion on the South Coast. He was a warm Order of Saint Michael and Saint George, and loyal friend to those who knew him. Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian With the inspiration of his example I feel Order, Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire, Knight of strengthened to serve the balance of his the Most Venerable Order of St John of term for which I have been elected. Jerusalem, Governor of the State of New South Wales and its Dependencies, in the When I observe in this Chamber so many Commonwealth of Australia. leaders of the professions and industry, the MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY- various pastoral industries and the great We, Her Majesty's loyal and dutiful sub­ trade unions, and I see here more women jects, the Members of the Legislative Council than in any other Parliament in Australia, ot New South Wales, in Parliament assembled, I am warmed by the intellect and breadth desire to express our thanks for Your Ex­ of individual experience gathered here to cellency's Speech, and to assure you of our debate the Government's proposed legisla­ unfeigned attachment to Her Most Gracious tion for the benefit of the citizens of New Majesty's Throne and Person. South Wales. I am honoured to be afforded 2. We beg to assure Your Excellency that the opportunity of being in their company. our earnest consideration will be given to the I thank those responsible for my election measures to be submitted to us. to this House. 3. We join Your Excellency in the hope that, under the guidance of Divine Providence, our I am a firm believer in the bicameral labours may be so directed as to advance the system of government in both federal and best interests of all sections of the community. State spheres. The bicameral system is The citizens of this State could not help but necessary, first, as a brake upon the absolute be impressed by the broad and positive authority of any one House; second, to pro­ range of proposals listed in His Excellency's vide a breathing space so that measures Speech and I commend the Government may be publicly ventilated before being upon the legislative programme proposed for passed; and third, as a House of review. the fourth session of the Forty-third Par­ Perhaps the first two points are summed up liament of New South Wales. best in the words of John Stuart Mill when he said in 1861: All citizens are honoured that Her The consideration which tells most, in my Majesty the Queen has graciously consent­ judgment, in favour of two chambers, is the ed to open officially the Sydney Opera evil effect produced upon the mind of any holder of power, whether an individual or an House and honourable members look for­ assembly, by the consciousness of having only ward with loyal pleasure to her visit in the themselves to consult. It is important that no set of persons should, in great affairs be able, early part of October. even temporarily, to make their sic vola pre­ vail without asking anyone else for his con­ I should like to pay tribute to the memory sent. A majority in a single assembly easily of the late Sir Leslie Herron, Lieutenant­ becomes despotic and overweening if released Governor and Chief Justice of New South from the necessity of considering whether its acts will be concurred in by another constituted Wales. He was a man of warmth, devoted authority. Governor's Speech: [8 AUG., 1973] Address in Reply 19 Again, Viscount Bryce, that sage counsellor than the continuing increase in bureaucratic who chaired the committee that produced control of all facets of life and a levelling the Bryce report in 1918, when writing to a point at which the great pioneering about the American Constitution, said: spirit upon which this nation has been built The need for two chambers is deemed an is dampened and finally extinguished. I axiom of political science, being based on the believe also in the encouragement and sup­ belief that the innate tendency of an assembly port of those who, through their age, dis­ to become hasty, tyrannical and corrupt needs to be checked by the co-existence of another abilities or lack of capacity, are unable, to House of equal authority. The Americans re­ provide adequately for themselves and for strain their legislatures by dividing them, just their families. as the Romans restrained their executive by substituting two consuls for one kind. The I congratulate the Government upon its only States that ever tried to do with a single proposals for the promotion of the national house were Pennsylvania, Georgia and Ver­ parks system in New South Wales. In a mont, all of whom gave it up: the first after four years experience, the second after twelve monumental piece of legislation in 1967, years and the last after fifty years. It is with two years after this Government assumed these trifling exceptions the quod semper, quod office, the Minister for Lands introduced ubique, quod ab omnibus of American con­ the National Parks and Wildlife Bill, by stitutional doctrine. which the National Parks and Wildlife Ser­ Let me return to the local scene. The father vice was established on 1st October, 1967. of federation, Sir Henry Parkes, said in Since then four bills dealing with national 1873 that he held the view that the prin­ parks have been brought before Parlia­ ciple of two Houses was the wisest, the ment. This high rate of legislative activity safest and the best. The importance of this underlines the Government's determination Chamber as a House of review is revealed to evolve a highly efficient nature conserva­ in statistics of the Forty-second Parliament, tion machine. in the course of which 253 bills were passed It is interesting to note that in 1967, through both Houses. Of these, 42 were when the legislation was introduced, this amended by the Council, and in all, 149 State had only twelve national parks, in­ amendments were made. cluding state parks, historic sites et cetera. It is a matter of continuing regret to me, We now have twenty-seven. There were and I feel to most thinking Australians, that fifty-two nature reserves; there are now the alternative government in this State and ninety-three. At that time the total area the present federal Government have as part reserved for national parks, state parks, of their platform the abolition of the Legis­ historic sites, nature reserves and Aboriginal lative Council and the Senate and, by virtue relics was about 2.1 million acres, whereas of recent decisions reached in Surfers Para­ at 30th June last the area had almost dise, a move towards centralization of power doubled to approximately 4 million acres. in Canberra. I am totally opposed to the These figures included 120 miles, or nearly centralization of power in Canberra, which 13 per cent, of the coastline of New South was referred to in His Excellency's Speech. Wales. This reoresents in all an area of I am totally opposed also to the socialization more than 2 per cent of the State, which of industry, production, distribution and ex­ within this short space of time is a con­ change. siderable advance. However, it should not be forgotten that in a report, UNESCO I believe in the individual and his free­ suggested that a minimum of 5 per cent dom, and his right to strive and to exercise of a State's total area should be retained his talents to the full. I believe in his right for national parks. Honourable members to individual dignity and ambition, and in will appreciate that much remains to be his right to choose-rather than having a done. choice made for him-his education, his These parks are required not only for place of work, his place of living and his the expanding Australian population but recreations. I believe in free enterprise and also as a vital factor in the encourage­ the extension of the individual ego rather ment of tourists to this country. Tourism 20 Governor's Speech: [COUNCIL] Address in Reply is growing to be one of the largest indus­ but although this is an answer to that prob­ tries in Australia and national parks here, lem, it is not an answer to the problem of as elsewhere, can be a significant drawing providing recreation areas where trail bike force. I note that Australia had 426,000 riders and others may engage in the sport visitor arrivals in 1972, whereas there were 504,000 short-term Australian departures­ of their choice. nearly a quarter more Australians departing Another area subjected to this type of than visitors arriving. This led in 1972 to usage is the Hornsby Valley, where last a deficit, in that Australian spending over­ seas amounted to $213 million over receipts Sunday the noise level was so high that it from those coming to Australia. The 1980 disturbed the residential tranquility of the projection by the Australian Tourist Com­ area. In my view recreation parks as sug­ mission produced in May indicates that gested by the Minister must be provided at by then there should be 2. 3 million Austra­ selected locations where these and other lian short-term departures as against 1.3 mil­ activities may be enjoyed by those desiring lion tourist arrivals and an adverse financial them, but where the areas are not of natural travel gap of $794 million. Thus one can significance and where the noise level can­ see the importance of preserving our natural not affect residential amenity. \ assets as one of the attractions for persons who visit this country. I remind the Furthermore, there is a requirement for ultra-conservationist or naturalist who ob­ recreation areas to provide for the mass jects to these tourists, and indeed feels that picnics held by many organizations which, he alone is entitled to the national parks, because of the concentration of entertain­ that he himself is a tourist the moment ment and consequent noise, are inimical to he sets foot within a national park. the atmosphere of an historic site such as Kurnell and the enjoyment by the large I am glad to learn that the Govern­ number of family picnickers and others who ment is to legislate for recreation reserves gather there. These would relieve pressure to provide facilities not at present provided on other overtaxed areas such as the Royal in national parks and to regulate uses that National Park. are not consistent with the character of the national park. A typical example of the Another source of supply of recreation need for this is the situation with which I areas is State forests, of which there are am well familiar at Captain Cook's landing some three million hectares in New South place at Kurnell. This is an historic site of Wales. I congratulate the Government upon about 840 acres containing both high-usage the steps taken to ensure the opening of areas surrounding the monuments and the these for public use as recreation areas. I museum, and many acres to the south of was most impressed to learn, upon inquiry, natural area with some of the best examples of the number of brochures available at the of Hawkesbury fore-dune and hind-dune Forestry Commission advising the public flora to be found in the Sydney basin. how to use and enjoy these forests. How­ ever, many of these forests were planted Owing to lack of finance and insufficient without this joint use in mind which makes staff to patrol adequately this large area it them less appropriate for these purposes. I has become the mecca for trail bike riders, dune buggies and the like. The result is that hope that in future forest planning a domi­ in places the flora has been destroyed and nant consideration will be multiple use and sand drifts are starting to take over. A greater emphasis laid upon the public usage. fence is being erected to exclude these uses As a citizen of this State, one can only from this natural area in order that it might be grateful for the great strides made by be protected and preserved for the future, the Government in the field of national The Hon. W.J. Holt] Address in Reply [8 AuG., 1973] Special Adjournment 21 parks and public recreation, when contrast­ proximity of most major galleries, make ed with the reception that the federal Minis­ this situation ideal for the learning of the ter for Conservation and Environment, Dr arts. This may mean the eventual removal Moss Cass, and his supporters, received for of some or all of the other technical courses, his environment proposals in the recent Aus­ but I understand that some of these propose tralian Labor Party federal conference at moving to other premises more suitable to Surfers' Paradise. It is reported in the their purpose. I seek to urge these matters Bulletin of 21st July, 1973, that all his for the Minister's consideration when shortly major proposals were beaten badly at the he considers the Gleeson report, for I feel ballot and were subjected to mocking, inter­ that there may be some who are more con­ jections and sarcasm during debate. What a cerned with the amount of glass and aggre­ far cry from the environment platform put gate per student rather that with the quality forward last year by the present federal of their surroundings and its impact upon Government. the quality of their art. I would congratulate the Government I have mentioned in some detail but three upon the development of new colleges of of the subjects referred to in His Excel­ advanced education in New South Wales, lency's address and shall leave detailed con­ and the promptitude with which the Ron. sideration of the other measures to those E. A. Willis, Minister for Education, has attacked the question of colleges of better qualified than myself. I am, how­ advanced education, particularly in art and ever, greatly heartened to hear the other design. I feel that with the numbers desir­ proposals outlined by His Excellency, in­ ing to enrol in art and design diploma cluding the expansion of the decentraliza­ courses in New South Wales in 1973-617 tion programme, the further proposals for -there is a requirement in New South housing not only for families but also for Wales for at least two colleges of advanced the aged, the 500 new projects in the field education in art and design. Some people suggest that the first should be situate either of education and the proposed improve­ at Lindfield or adjacent to the Macquarie ments in the road and public transport sys­ University at Ryde and that the second be in tems of this State. I am pleased to hear also the southern part of the city. May I make of the proposed creation of an office in the my plea that the first be situate in the exist­ nature of an ombudsman and the proposal ing art school grounds at East Sydney and for a comprehensive noise pollution bill, to if finally there be not sufficient area within mention merely part of the vast legislative the curtilage of its stone walls, the balance programme outlined by His Excellency. could be housed in adjacent buildings. After eight years of stable and positive gov­ As Wallace Thornton, a man highly re­ ernment of this State I congratulate the spected in art and art education, has said, Government upon the dynamic and progres­ this present complex of buildings of asser­ sive programme of legislation proposed in tive character, beautifully spaced in relation this session for the benefit of the people of to one another, form an area where scale, this State. space, forms, materials textures and muted Debate adjourned on motion by the Ron. colour provide the everyday stimulus to the L. A. Solomons. working processes of the artist and art student. These buildings with all their col­ SPECIAL ADJOURNMENT onial dignity and atmosphere are recognized Motion (by the Ron. J. B. M. Fuller) by the National Trust as a national monu­ agreed to: ment and their being surrounded by areas That this House at its rising today do ad­ of cheaper accommodation, with cheaper journ until tomorrow at 4.30 p.m., sharp. food, opportunities for casual work, coffee House adjourned, on motion by the shops, even a few corner pubs and the Hon. J. B. M. Fuller, at 5.55 p.m.