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Yeo r's Bo mboozle @ Iwl I mer Sib I to shine I tnut Hr, I rock anl | 0f Mind I tunes 0l I Boston lwt I rhythm I album I I multi0lt | 0rums \ I album v I Secondr I leoacv, I orurt I tne nan I The I ti*r u, I with Jo I Boston Ll'* #sffi##tr# t way you otten bash out half notes 0n the cym- lonrglrtproducerl Tom Werman' he the llffi been IhenlHeaven pat- the mr efore the term power pophad even bals and'how you'll double an Bth-note hi-hat want more licks We'd sit there and argue: I Keith Moon was esta0- would ihe snare may ni coined, the Who's ;i a lick tern by dragging along on m not Ooing a lick therel" "You needto do I guidelines for the genre's future cymnat wasn would fill in all the holes lace 0l lJ tisning . me to do a lick going Bun: ihe I of serving Pete- therel" He finllly convinced with Keith M00n bandsl drLrmmers r,iit-n nis spastic manner thought for a three-piece l noticed that I into the chorus.'There was probably more He wasn't bashful about get- snare drum I got from the-Dave tamilia Townshend's songs of the stuff I do The riding on the I at the put into those tills than some "Bits was,Bt tino his licks in, or about hammering away Clark Five, things like "Glad All Over" and these daYS. I like tney'd spoken rudely of his mum' Pieces." He was playing the hi-hat and the Percne cvilbals you play them faithfully Does it ever And I Bun E Carlos MDt And still great That bandm Then. iust over a decade later, snare about the same, and it sounded I with his become tedious? up t0 a ,ott, ut6ng and hones Moon's template became my style, and people used to come I truck Bun: Nah. I recognize that's what works best- on Cheap Trick's 1 978 single time in clubs and say, "Your drum- 'Mil' oerlormance can't change fills] Rick all the | i'Sunender." sup- lnat's wny it's there. You lthe "r a 0n the rock radio classic, Carlos no good. He doesn't play any licks l'm a sit there and go, "This is bor- mer's | melodies with too much. You can your " We'd g0' says ol oorti iinq.t Robin Zanders soaring you drummer-l should be in band l've been doing it for thirty years " But can I and when the third verse ino. play some songs " Most of the snow's a rock-solid backbeat. famous lt's what's 0n "Sure, get up and I riding 0n alio say, "This is why l'm modulates he underscores the surge by time they'd die the death. I Froouc tne recbid; this is what people want to hear'" cymbal with extra gusto Bun gets his mention Keith Moon and Dave Clark Who I and he the crash Trick was signed, you cut your irfo: voi t_ those two-measure MDi Before Cheap drummers? horma licks in too. Who could forget played four are some of your other favorite musical teeth in bars, when bands I penon fills he plays throughout the song? Teny Williams lRockpile, Dire Straits]was I snare sets a night' Bunl thirty years, Carlos has been infusing fortvJive-minute when I met him in '78; it eur For over you'd play for a few years fantastic. i remember I classified Bunl In the old days, Fleetwood the firr Cheap Trick's songs with a style best was oreat t0 meet a kindred spirit Mick you got a deal. People don't have that I Think about his playing before he had a big' fat check as simplicity with a twist. Trick it ' *as i big influence because I luxury inymore. When we started Cheap "Dream Police " his shuffle- didn't have t0 do dopey drum licks are th on ine snape-snitting floors. Our first big rule i neat andne I "southern Girls" *as itt nits and dance them io-straiqht time traniitions in everY Verse. not clear any dance floors " And Rick : I flair he adds to "California wis, "iet's seemed so solid Did melo and thi s0s-style good pop-oriented : tvtoiyour time has always I power pop INieisenl was writing really 1r0 Man"-it's not your run-of{he-mill , vou usuallv track with a clickr I up sb I started approaching them like, What 'Bun: ionqs, '0n The Radio.'' but I alike. timekeeping. more licks We used one on I - : ieariv needs to be in here? I noticed the -lt' Even'whin Carlos plays it a little straighter' like it was really annoying We probably | speeding up I did So I was sud- , remember .. Tinted , f pfiv.O, the more My Love " it'r oir on the self-titleO debut from the supergroup i didnt use one again until "lf You Want I to be denly Playing no licks. had a over r Windows, there's not a wasted accent or fill : Mavbe three songs on the first six albums backed up a few of those old rock , | Bun E Carlos has : rnie nal also put together a disc of somer found. Straight or with a twist, Beny , ciiii. n coupre oiyears ago I , 'n roll ouvs. I qot instant lessons trom Chuck I tn perfected the art of power pop drummlng' all the songs we play nowadays from those on what to do and definitely what i anO eo"DldOtey year, | records. The tempos get faster every s0 r"sv Berry wanted boom, bap, boom- i I well t notlodo. Cnuik casl z MD: Your parts on'surrender" sound very wanted to play along and find my original motiva- boom all night. He said, "Don't play n0 orum r I Did you spend a lot of time refining I of these songs that I thought were 0osec thoughi-out. good it be-came our de i tion. Rnd some | li;6.'Thaistuff worked so oruml the pedormance? i really steady, like "Big Eyes" or'0h, Candy'' | ticto teet. We just got in that pocket 0ur original , We cut an early instrumental track of l spteding up and slowing down Llaughsl shufrl Sui: come along, and a lot ended up tf'revie I l was doing a i songs started io Galt d "sunender" with Jack Douglas, and : i rnev're not that steady. I qhost the verses-boom bap 0a- like that. recon lot of notes on up tn Pati'icr Berkery ' MD: That old-school approach has shown i I bap. He d say' 'You don't need that i I agaln noomlboom, Lls 14 MODERNDRUMMER . SEPTEMBER2OO9.