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Sitting(Link Is External) 1 THURSDAY, 13 SEPTEMBER 2018 PROCEEDINGS OF THE WESTERN CAPE PROVINCIAL PARLIAMENT The sign † indicates the original language and [ ] directly thereafter indicates a translation. The House met at 14:15. The Speaker took the Chair and read the prayer. The SPEAKER: Hon members, may I request that you remain standing please. We are going to observe a moment of silence for those who have lost their lives in the Denel explosion. [Moment of silence observed.] Thank you, you may be seated. Order please! Good afternoon hon members. To our guests in the gallery, good afternoon and welcome; thank you for being here with us today. I think it is important just to alert you to the rules of the gallery. You cannot participate in the proceedings and please ensure that all cell phones are on silent. Thank you. I recognise the Chief Whip. 2 (Notice of Motion) Mr M G E WILEY: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I give notice that I shall move: That, notwithstanding the provisions of Rule 198, precedence be given to the subject for discussion. Thank you. The SPEAKER: Are there any objection to the motion being moved without notice? There are no objections. It is agreed to. [Interjections.] We will now deal with the Subject for Discussion in the name of the hon member Dyantyi as printed on the Order Paper. I recognise the hon member Dyantyi. (Subject for Discussion) THE INSTABILITY AT THE WESTERN CAPE MUNICIPALITIES UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE DA Mr Q R DYANTYI: Thank you very much Madam Speaker. To welcome everybody in the House, our guests, and of course with the Premier, who is always not with us, welcome Premier. [Interjections.] Mr M G E WILEY: That is the first... [Inaudible.] 3 †INKULUMBUSO: Sundihlekisa. [The PREMIER: Don’t make me laugh.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: The DA sold so many lies to the ordinary citizens and voters of the Western Cape. †ʼn AGB LID: Hoor-hoor! [An HON MEMBER: Hear-hear!] Mr Q R DYANTYI: At the polls they got away with that. Their best adve rts were, “We are the best-run province in South Africa.” †ʼn AGB LID: Dit is reg. [An HON MEMBER: That is right.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: “We have the best-run municipalities.” The PREMIER: True! Mr Q R DYANTYI: They have in the last eight-plus years believed their own propaganda. The PREMIER: Everyone does! Mr Q R DYANTYI: We stand here today to attest to a daily reality that the so 4 called best-run municipalities are falling apart one by one. [Interjections.] Mr D JOSEPH: Try your luck! The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING: Really! Do you believe that? Mr Q R DYANTYI: From Knysna to Cape Town lived people experiences indicate that the best run Government does not connect with people’s living conditions. [Interjections.] Mr D JOSEPH: No state capture. Mr Q R DYANTYI: From Cape Town to George the same storyline. From Cape Town to Langeberg the same failures! From Cape Town to Swellendam more lies! From Cape Town to Stellenbosch - say no more. From Cape Town to Matzikama – †ek het geen woorde nie! [Tussenwerpsels.] – [I have no words! [Interjections.]] The MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE, ECONOM IC DEVELOPMENT AND TOURISM: Your time is running out. You must get to the point! †Mnr Q R DYANTYI: Die DA is baie trots op skoon oudits en awards. [Mr Q R DYANTYI: The DA is very proud of clean audits and awards. ] †ʼn AGB LID: Natuurlik, natuurlik ja. 5 [An HON MEMBER: Of course, of course yes. ] Mr Q R DYANTYI: This is what matters to them. [Interjections.] An HON MEMBER: Tick that box! [Interjections.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: You will hear them even today parading these at the expense of people’s lives. They are so determined about clean audits because it is their alpha and omega, that when they do not get the clean audits th ey drag the Auditor-General to court. [Interjections.] Ask member Alan Winde, the DA’s white Premier candidate. Ms B A SCHÄFER: Now you are racist! The PREMIER: Now you are racist. [Interjections.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: In books the DA... [Interjections.] The PREMIER: Where is your white [Inaudible.] The SPEAKER: Order please. An HON MEMBER: Where is your white Premier? [Interjecti ons.] †Mnr Q R DYANTYI: Ek weet, ek verstaan dit is baie seer. Ek verstaan dit. Eina! 6 [Mr Q R DYANTYI: I know, I understand it hurts very much. I understand that. Ouch!] The SPEAKER: Honourable, order please members! [Interjections.] Hon member Dyantyi, please address the Chair. Thank you. Mr Q R DYANTYI: Thank you, thank you Chair. The SPEAKER: Thank you. Mr Q R DYANTYI: In books the DA comply in everything. In improving people’s lives, †julle druip! Julle druip! [Tussenwerpsels.] [you fail! You fail! [Interjections.]] The SPEAKER: Order please! [Interjections.] The PREMIER: Why do people come here? †Mnr Q R DYANTYI: Armoede, werkloos. [Tussenwerpsels.] [Mr Q R DYANTYI: Poverty, jobless. [Interjections.] ] The SPEAKER: Hon member Dyantyi, kindly take your seat. Chief Whip Wiley. Mr M G E WILEY: I rise, Madam Speaker, with respect I rise on a point of... 7 [Interjections.] The SPEAKER: Order please, there is a speaker on the floor. Chief Whip? Mr M G E WILEY: I rise on a point of relevance. It is the instability at the Western Cape municipalities under control of the DA. [Interjections.] The SPEAKER: Thank you. An HON MEMBER: Sit. Mr M G E WILEY: We are three-and-a-half minutes into the speech and he has not mentioned them once. The SPEAKER: Thank you Chief Whip, hon Wiley, I will grant the hon member latitude. I believe he is building up towards his point. Hon member Dyantyi, thank you. [Interjections.] †Mnr Q R DYANTYI: Armoede, werkloosheid gebeur daagliks onder die DA-regerings. Die DA gee nie om vir die lewe van arm mense nie. [Mr Q R DYANTYI: Poverty, unemployment happen daily under the DA governments. The DA does not care about the lives of the poor people. ] †ʼn AGB LID: En dit is ook relevant. [An HON MEMBER: And that is also relevant.] 8 †Mnr Q R DYANTYI: Net hulle stemme is belangrik vir die DA. [Mr Q R DYANTYI: Only their votes are important to the DA. ] †You want black votes. You do not care for black lives. [Interjections.] The SPEAKER: Order! Mr Q R DYANTYI: Today is about the impact and the cost of DA failures of instability at municipalities to the ordinary citizens in this province and I want to get to that point. Whilst they are busy with in -fighting, factional battles between the liberals, Afrikaners [Interjections.] †Die MINISTER VAN MAATSKAPLIKE ONTWIKKELING: Hoor wie praat! Hoor wie praat! [The MINISTER OF SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT: Hear who is talking! Hear who is talking!] Mr Q R DYANTYI: ...the so called black caucus, ID remnants, exchanging seats and chairs, ordinary people are suffering. [Interjections.] The MINISTER OF SOCIAL DEVELOPMENT: Look who is talking! The SPEAKER: Order! Mr Q R DYANTYI: Here is the real cost of instability by the DA municipalities. Let us go to the City of Cape Town here. 9 The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING: Here, right here, yes. Mr Q R DYANTYI: Millions of under-expenditure on capital expenditure are a daily occurrence. The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING: Nonsense! Mr Q R DYANTYI: Let alone mentioning R173 million sent back to the Treasury because you could not spend it and that R173 million could have helped Siqalo in Mitchells Plain. An HON MEMBER: Yes. Mr Q R DYANTYI: And Marikana in Philippi to develop their infrastructure. [Interjections.] The MINISTER OF HUMAN SETTLEMENTS: We are already doing that. Mr Q R DYANTYI: You failed them because their lives do n ot matter to you. [Interjections.] The SPEAKER: Order please! 10 †UNksz P Z LEKKER: Amasela e DA. [Ms P Z LEKKER: The DA are thieves.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: High tariffs in water and electricity... [Interjections.] The SPEAKER: Hon member Dyantyi... [Applause.] †UNksz P Z LEKKER: Amasela e DA. [Ms P Z LEKKER: The DA are thieves.] The SPEAKER: Sorry. The hon Bernard Joseph has arrived. Sorry, hon member Dyantyi, and the noise was drowning out your speech so I trust that he has now been welcomed. You may proceed. Welcome hon member Joseph. Thank you. Mr Q R DYANTYI: Thank you. Please check my time, Madam Speaker. In-fighting and poor management of water resulting in this, the ANC stands with the Festus, the Theys, the Souma and Hector families who are ta king the City of Cape Town to court for burdening them with debt. †ʼn AGBARE LID: Ja. [An HON MEMBER: Yes.] Mr Q R DYANTYI: We want the DA here today to confirm that they are going to use taxpayers’ money to defend themselves against these poor 11 families. You need to say it here today. Ms P Z LEKKER: Definitely they will not. Mr Q R DYANTYI: You are punishing Cape Town residents for complying and saving water. In three months, one billion that you have saved. [Interjections.] The MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL AFFAIRS AND DEVELOPMENT PLANNING: What is your problem? Mr Q R DYANTYI: Let us go to George whilst you are thinking about the City of Cape Town. The Western Cape is ranked the third -highest in service protest in July by the Municipal IQ. Mr M G E WILEY: Ask Mr Dugmore! Mr P UYS: Ask yourself! Mr Q R DYANTYI: Thembalethu, Lawaaikamp, Parkdene witness daily service protests.
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