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Parliamentary Debates (Hansard) Wednesday Volume 565 26 June 2013 No. 24 HOUSE OF COMMONS OFFICIAL REPORT PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES (HANSARD) Wednesday 26 June 2013 £5·00 © Parliamentary Copyright House of Commons 2013 This publication may be reproduced under the terms of the Open Parliament licence, which is published at www.parliament.uk/site-information/copyright/. 283 26 JUNE 2013 284 David Mundell: We have looked at the regulations, House of Commons which were brought in by the previous Government. We very much respect the work of the Scottish Affairs Wednesday 26 June 2013 Committee and if it finds that the current legislation is not working, we will of course look at the matter. The House met at half-past Eleven o’clock Referendum Campaign PRAYERS 2. Mark Menzies (Fylde) (Con): What steps the Government have taken to fulfil their pledge to [MR SPEAKER in the Chair] campaign to keep Scotland as part of the UK. [160885] The Secretary of State for Scotland (Michael Moore): Oral Answers to Questions The United Kingdom Government are providing evidence and analysis to allow voters to make an informed choice about Scotland within the United Kingdom. We are SCOTLAND publishing analysis papers on all the key issues throughout this year and next. The Secretary of State was asked— Mark Menzies: Does the Secretary of State agree that Blacklisting the Scotland analysis programme is already highlighting the clear benefits of Scotland being part of the UK, and 1. Jim McGovern (Dundee West) (Lab): What recent of the UK having Scotland within it? discussions he has had with Ministers in the Scottish Government on blacklisting in Scotland. [160884] Michael Moore: I certainly agree with my hon. Friend on that. It demonstrates that Scotland enjoys the best of The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland both worlds, with a strong Scottish Parliament and a (David Mundell): I regularly meet Scottish Government strong voice here in Westminster. Our economy is able Ministers to discuss a wide range of issues. I commend to benefit from the scale and support of the whole UK. the work of the Scottish Affairs Committee on investigating Our place in the world is all the stronger, and our voice the deplorable activity of blacklisting. The Committee’s in the world all the louder, for being part of the United final report will be given careful consideration by the Kingdom. Government when it is published. Anas Sarwar (Glasgow Central) (Lab): Yesterday, the Jim McGovern: I thank the Minister for his response. Scottish Chambers of Commerce highlighted what it Perhaps the most ridiculous case of blacklisting that I called information gaps, which are a result of Scotland am aware of is that of the late, great Dundonian, not yet knowing how it would handle business and Mr Syd Scroggie. He lost a leg and the sight in both his income taxes and not yet knowing what its currency, its eyes serving his country during the second world war. status in the EU or its relationship with international He found himself on a blacklist. What was his crime? organisations would be. What will this Government do He had written to The Scotsman newspaper to commend to ensure that all voters in Scotland have the facts, the then Dundee district council for buying a portrait of rather than the assertions being made by the Scottish Nelson Mandela. Will the Minister liaise with the Scottish National party and the Scottish Government? Government to ensure that the odious practice of blacklisting is wiped out? Michael Moore: I commend the Scottish Chambers David Mundell: When the Scottish Affairs Committee of Commerce for the work that it is doing, along with report is published, I will undertake to discuss its others. This week, the Scotland Institute has also highlighted recommendations with the appropriate Scottish some important deficiencies in the nationalists’ arguments Government Ministers. on defence. Our papers on devolution, on the currency and on financial services are setting out the arguments Mr Brian H. Donohoe (Central Ayrshire) (Lab): As and analysis so that Scotland can make an informed someone who has been blacklisted three times in the choice. I remain confident that we will decide to stay past, I can tell the Minister that it is an obnoxious way part of the United Kingdom. of going about business. Will he ensure that legislation is put in place to ensure that people like me and many Sir Menzies Campbell (North East Fife) (LD): May I others in Scotland do not have to face such a practice in commend my right hon. Friend on the positive case that future? he is making? As he has just been joined on the Treasury Bench by the Secretary of State for Defence, will he David Mundell: The Government take this matter ensure that all Government Departments including the very seriously.As the hon. Gentleman will know, legislation Ministry of Defence take every opportunity to examine is already in place in the form of the Employment critically the defence proposals of the Scottish National Relations Act 1999 (Blacklists) Regulations 2010. We party and the Scottish Government, which have yet await the Scottish Affairs Committee report to see again been the subject of strong criticism in an independent whether it proposes any further measures. report this week? Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab): The Michael Moore: My right hon. and learned Friend practice has clearly been going on for decades, and the makes a very important point. I can assure him that my law is not working. Has the Minister looked at the right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Defence is legislation to see whether further action is required to very much engaged in this entire debate. Central to that ensure that we bring the practice to an end? debate will be the SNP’s attempt to have it both ways by 285 Oral Answers26 JUNE 2013 Oral Answers 286 reluctantly and belatedly signing up for NATO—three David Mundell: The hon. Gentleman will be pleased quarters of Scots support it, so that was perhaps to know that we are working closely with the Scottish inevitable—while not being willing to accept the obligations Government in relation to their equity scheme, which is and rules that go with it, including a nuclear umbrella equivalent to, but not the same as, the equity loan as part of the strategic concept. scheme available in England. The Home to Buy mortgage guarantee scheme will be available in Scotland, and we Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) are working with the Scottish Government to ensure (SNP): It emerged at the weekend that insiders of the no that there is a communications plan so that potential campaign against Scottish independence secretly call home buyers in Scotland fully understand how all the the campaign “project fear”. This is a campaign based schemes work and how they relate to each other. on scaremongering and negativity. Is the Secretary of State embarrassed? Ann McKechin (Glasgow North) (Lab): As my hon. Friend has just pointed out, the capital limit on the Michael Moore: I think people on the pro-UK side of mortgage guarantee scheme of the UK Government is the campaign could show their Twitter feeds to anyone £600,000. This is hardly designed for those on low and to show what negativity and scaremongering are all modest incomes. Would the money not be better spent about. I think, too, that hon. Gentleman should be a on providing social housing, which is badly needed little careful about casting aspersions and should concentrate across Scotland? on getting on with the proper arguments. From his side of the argument, we have so far seen no arguments and David Mundell: I would have thought that the hon. no detail. Lady would have welcomed the 10% increase in loans to first-time buyers in Scotland in the first quarter of Bob Stewart (Beckenham) (Con): Will my right hon. 2012. The limit of the scheme reflects house prices Friend comment on the thought that a possible independent across the United Kingdom, and I believe that it is fair Scotland would have an army? Would that independent and equitable. Scotland be able to employ the same number of Scottish soldiers that the British Army employs at the moment? Common Agricultural Policy Michael Moore: My hon. Friend, whose distinguished track record in these matters is well known to people 4. Neil Carmichael (Stroud) (Con): What assessment across the House, makes a very important point. This he has made of the potential effect on Scotland of the week, the report of the Scotland Institute—an independent outcome of the recent negotiations on reform of the body—has put real and serious questions to the SNP common agricultural policy. [160887] and the yes campaign that they cannot answer. The Secretary of State for Scotland (Michael Moore): Home Buyers Negotiations have been making real progress in the last few hours. We aim to deliver a strong outcome for 3. Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North and Leith) farmers in Scotland, securing full regionalisation of the (Lab/Co-op): Which Department is responsible for common agricultural policy to take account of the promoting in Scotland the UK Government’s policies particular circumstances of Scottish producers. on supporting home buyers; and if he will make a statement. [160886] Neil Carmichael: Notwithstanding the proven need for environmental schemes, does the Secretary of State The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland agree that it is important to enable the farmers to make (David Mundell): The Government are providing wide- decisions about their own production mechanisms, so ranging support to help people buy their homes.
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