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HOUSE of COMMONS Clause 41 1179 Private Business 18 MAY 1965 Oral Answers 1180 to leave out Clause 48-and, indeed, HOUSE OF COMMONS Clause 41. I have now discovered, as must be well Tuesday, 18th May, 1965 known, that the Committee is now dis­ cussing Clause 41, and that seems to give The House met at half-past rise to a rather peculiar situation. The Two o'clock Committee may come to a conclusion on this Clause, if it did not do so this morn­ PRAYERS ing, yet by order of the Chairman of Ways and Means we are having put down [Mr. SPEAKER in the Chair] for consideration on Tuesday next some­ thing which, in another area of the House, PRIVATE BUSINESS may have been decided. I would be grate­ ful for your guidance, Mr. Speaker, either HUDDERSFIELD CORPORATION BILL now or, if more convenient to you, later. Read the Third time and passed. Mr. Speaker : I should have to think about it. I appreciate the hon. Gentle­ PORT OF LONDON BILL [Lords] man's difficulty, but I cannot help him, Read the Third time and passed, with because the time appointed for considera­ A me11dme11ts. tion of this adjourned debate is outside the realm of my responsibility. LIVERPOOL EXCHANGE BILL [Lords] Mr. Hirst: I naturally appreciate that, Read the Third time a11d passed, with­ Mr. Speaker. The difficulty is that one out Amelldment. cannot very easily question the Chairman of Ways and Means in the House and MERSEY TUNNEL (LIVERPOOL/WALLASEY) when he is in the Chair of the Commit­ ETC. BILL tee there is some Question before the [Queen's Consent, on behalf of the Committee. I therefore do not know, in Crown and the Duchy of Lancaster, my innocence-although I have been here sig11ified] a little time-how one goes about it, Bill read the Third time and passed. although I know that, privately, the Chair­ man of Ways and Means would be only BRITISH WATERWAYS BILL too willing to deal with the problem. As amended, considered ; to be read t/ze Mr. Speaker: I give the hon. Member Third time. this hope, that I observe that while the hon. Member is talking the Chairman of MANCHESTER CORPORATION BILL Ways and Means is sitting here. But I Adjourned Debate on Question [29th cannot say anything about it. April], That it be an Instruction to the Committee on the Bill to leave out Clause 48 of the Bill, further adjourned till ORAL ANSWERS TO Tuesday next. QUESTIONS Mr. Hirst: On a point of order, Mr. Speaker. I am in a quandary, and seek CYPRUS enlightenment. Consideration of the Sovereign Base Areas Manchester Corporation Bill has now been adjourned till Tuesday next, and 1. Mr. Biggs-Davison asked •the Secre· it has been continuously so adjourned, tary of Srt.mte for Commonweatth but it had time allocated to it by the Relaitions whait proposals Her Majesty's Government have received from other Chairman of Ways and Means some time or ago. The matter was discussed, but that Governments, from it.be Uni,ted Na.tions discussion was not concluded. The de­ Organisaition, or i,ts mediator, to include bate was adjourned, and so it is that we the Sovereign Base Areas in Cyprus in a now have it on the Order Paper. There settlement of ithe island's problems. are various Amendments showing a de­ The Secretary of State for Common­ sire on the part of some hon. Members wealth Relations (Mr. ArthurBottomley) : that it be an instruction to the Committee None, Sir. 1181 Oral Answers 18 MAY 1965 Oral Answers 1182 Mr. Biggs-Davison : In view of rthe 4. Mrs. Renee Short asked the Secre- Gov-ernmern's determination rto hold tary of State for Commonwealth Rela­ Brirtish bases and ito defend our initerests tions what discussions the Minister of east of Suez, wiith nuclear and conven- State had during his recent visit to Malta tional forces, will rbhe right hon. Gentle- on the problems arising from the run­ man give a clear assurance that, in ~heir down of the dockyards. very proper zeal for peace-making, rthey Mr. Cledwyn Hughes: I did not will not trade away Br1tish sovere~gn rights discuss any particular problem relating to in Cyprus? the Malta dockyard during my recent Mr. Bottomley : The question of visit to Malta. I visited the yard and sovereign rights in Cyprus remains as was much impressed by what had been hilthe1ito. The Government are under­ achieved by the Council of Administra­ taking a review of all defence require­ tion and the managing agents. ments. This will rtake some rtime and no station can be left out of tha,t con­ Mrs. Short : Is my hon. Friend aware sideration. that this is a very serious problem, par­ ticularly the unemployment of adult Mr. F. Noel-Baker: My right hon. workers expected through the rundown Friend will have seen the report by ithe of the dockyards? Will he do everything mediator, Mr. Galo Plaza, and •the sug­ he can to see that suitable alternative gestion thait the British sovereign bases employment is found? That does not and rtheir status would not be an obstacle mean alternative employment for girls to a final setrt:lement in Cyprus. If such leaving school who are cheap labour, but a settlement did depend upon some move alternative employmeµt for adult workers connected wi.th the bases, can my right so displaced. hon. Friend confirm rthait this is the position? Mr. Hughes: Her Majesty's Gov~rn­ ment are very conscious of what my hon. Mr. Bottomley : I have nothing further Friend has said. We are doing all we to add other rthan itihait the sovereign bases can to assist in finding alternative sources remain as a,t present. They are outside of employment. The independence the prerogartive of rthe Republic of Cyprus. settlement payment was a very generous one, £50 million over 10 years. There have been no discharges on redundancy MALTA grounds so far. The dockyard adminis­ Minister's Visit tration is trying to work out a system for retraining and redeployment to avoid 2. Mr. van Straubenzee asked ,the discharges on account of redundancy. Secretary of S1t:a1te for Commonwealtli Relations whait was the purpose of the Minister of Starte's visiJt to Malta on 9.th- 1 Uh April ; and whether he will make a AUSTRALIA AND NEW statement. ZEALAND The Minister of State, Commonwealth Minister's Visit Relations Office (Mr. Cledwyn Hughes) : 3. Mr. Murray asked the Secretary of I refer ,tihe thon. Member ito my righrt hon. State for Commonwealth Relations if be Friend's reply ,to i!!he hon. Member for will make a statement about his recent Ha1itemprice (Mr. Wa,11) on 14th April. visit to Australia and New Zealand. Mr. van Straubenzee : I am obliged to Mr. Bottomley : I was invited by the the hon. Gentleman for thart reply, but Governments of Australia and New could he possibly add a liitrt:le to irt by Zealand to visit their countries, and I repo11ting whether in his judgment, arising gladly accepted. I warmly appreciated oUJt of his visit, the civilian dockyard is the very generous hospitality which was making progress in view of iats immense extended to me. During my visit to importance to the economy of Ma1ta? Australia I went to Canberra, Melbourne Mr. Hughes : There is another Question and Sydney. My programme, which was on the Order Paper about the civilian arranged by the Commonwealth and State dockyard. I shall be replying to that in Governments, enabled me to meet a few moments. Cabinet Ministers and Opposition leaders r' 1183 Oral Answers 18 MAY 1965 Oral Answers 11 84 in Canberra, State Ministers in Victoria it was because the House was debating and New South Wales, and Australian a White Paper on steel itihait the Com­ business and financial and Trade Union monwealth was made to suffer, whereas leaders. My visit to New Zealand it was because the Opposition were not was unfortunately considerably shortened prepared to give a pair. because of pressure of House of Commons business. I was, however, able Mr. Heffer : Is my right hon. Friend to meet the Prime Minister and other aware that those of us on the Strasbourg Cabinet Ministers in Wellington. I was Delegation were also forced to return, also able to visit Malaysia, where I had although we, too, had pairs? This was talks with the Prime Minister and Cabinet the responsibility of the Tory Opposition. Ministers and with the Premier and This also caused a very bad impression Ministers of the State Government in amongst the nations in Europe. Singapore. Mr. Fisher: Is the right hon. Gentle­ 12. Mr. Evelyn King asked the Secre­ man aware that the inconvenience which tary of State for Commonwealth he suffered and the small extra expense Relations why he cut short his recent were matched by the inconvenience and I the much larger expense I suffered at official visit to Australia ; and what was the additional cost to public funds being recalled from Nairobi and forfeit­ caused by this change of plan. ing a trip to Mauritius? Could he not make representations to the Patronage Mr. Bottomley: I was able to carry Secretary to allow Ministers on overseas out my full programme in Australia as trips to remain paired with hon. Mem­ planned. I was, unfortunately, forced bers on this side who are also on visits to cut short my visit to New Zealand, overseas? but I was very glad that nevetheless I was able to meet and have talks with Mr.
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