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NATIONAL CAPITAL PLANNING COMMISSION
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COMMISSION MEETING
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OPEN SESSION
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THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2016
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The meeting convened in Room 5115, Suite 500, 401 9th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20004, at 1:00 p.m., Preston Bryant, Jr., Chairman, presiding.
NATIONAL CAPITAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
PRESTON BRYANT, JR., Chairman Presidential Appointee ARRINGTON DIXON, Mayoral Appointee THOMAS GALLAS, Presidential Appointee GEOFFREY GRIFFIS, Mayoral Appointee PETER MAY, Department of the Interior REBECCA NUZZI, U.S. Senate MICHAEL L. RHODES, Department of Defense
JENNIFER STEINGASSER, Office of the Mayor of the
District of Columbia
BETH WHITE, Presidential Appointee
MINA WRIGHT, General Services Administration
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NCPC STAFF PRESENT:
MARCEL C. ACOSTA, Executive Director
ANNE SCHUYLER, General Counsel
DEBORAH B. YOUNG, Secretary to the Commission
CARLTON HART
VIVIAN LEE
MICHAEL SHERMAN
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C-O-N-T-E-N-T-S
Report of the Chairman Preston Bryant...... 5
Proposed 2017 Commission Meeting Schedule Preston Bryant...... 5
Report of the Executive Director Marcel Acosta ...... 8
Legislative Update Anne Schuyler ...... 11
Consent Calendar - No Presentations...... 13
Action Items
7756 - United States General Services Administration, Tingey Street and 3rd Street, S.E., Washington, D.C. - Parcel L2 - Southeast Federal Center ...... 24
6541 - United States Department of State, Harry S. Truman Federal Building, 2201 C Street, N.W., Washington, D.C. - Perimeter Security Improvements...... 51
Information Presentation
Memorials for the Future Ideas
Competition...... 67
Adjourn
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1 P-R-O-C-E-E-D-I-N-G-S
2 1:05 p.m.
3 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: We can bring the
4 Commission meeting to order. Again, good
5 afternoon and welcome to the National Capital
6 Planning Commission. This is our September 5th,
7 2016 meeting.
8 And if you would please, stand with me
9 and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
10 ALL: I pledge allegiance to the flag
11 of the United States of America, and to the
12 republic for which it stands, one nation under
13 God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for
14 all.
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. I'll
16 note for all in attendance that today's meeting
17 is being live-streamed on the ncpc.gov web site.
18 We do have a quorum, and so we will
19 proceed without objection to the agenda that's
20 been publicly advertised. We will have a change
21 in just a moment.
22 [INSERT - AGENDA]
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1 REPORT OF THE CHAIRMAN
2 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item No. 1 is
3 the report of the chairman, and I don't have an
4 official report other than to welcome folks back.
5 August is the one month of the year when the
6 Commission does not meet. That is not to say
7 that the staff is not fully engaged and very hard
8 at work. They are. And it's a very productive
9 month. So welcome back.
10 The second item I would note is that
11 later this month, I think the 24th, is the
12 opening of the African-American History and
13 Culture Museum, a very exciting project, a new
14 Smithsonian Institute facility on the Mall.
15 NCPC, we have played a great role in that, as
16 have many hundreds or thousands of other people
17 who have supported that project. And so, it's
18 coming to fruition and we're all very excited
19 about it. Should be a great day.
20 PROPOSED 2017 COMMISSION MEETING SCHEDULE
21 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item No. 2 is
22 -- we have distributed to you at your desk and
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1 maybe by email as well to Commission members the
2 proposed calendar for calendar year 2017. Again
3 there is no August meeting. And I would note
4 that in July; just to draw your attention, our
5 normally scheduled first Thursday meeting would
6 be July the 6th, which perhaps is too close to
7 holiday enjoyment, so we have proposed the July
8 meeting the next Thursday, which would be July
9 the 13th, which is a bit into the month. Is that
10 okay with everyone, July 13th?
11 (No audible response.)
12 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Okay. So all of
13 that is on the document before you. Is there a
14 motion to adopt the calendar year 2017 calendar?
15 MEMBER RHODES: So moved.
16 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's been moved
17 and --
18 MEMBER WRIGHT: Second.
19 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- seconded. All in
20 favor, say aye?
21 (Chorus of aye.)
22 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
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1 (No audible response.)
2 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's adopted. Thank
3 you.
4 [INSERT - PROPOSED 2017 COMMISSION MEETING
5 SCHEDULE]
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1 REPORT OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
2 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item
3 No. 3 is the report of the Executive Director.
4 Mr. Acosta?
5 DIRECTOR ACOSTA: Thank you, Mr.
6 Chairman, and welcome back to our Commission.
7 The second public meeting regarding
8 the Draft FBI J. Edgar Hoover Site Square
9 Guidelines will be held tomorrow, September 9th
10 at 10:00 right here in the Commission chambers.
11 Tomorrow's presentation will cover the same
12 material that was presented at last night's
13 public meeting.
14 Interested members of the public are
15 welcome to attend. For those who cannot attend
16 the meeting, this meeting will be live-streamed
17 and also available on our web site to view a few
18 days after the presentation.
19 We also anticipate bringing the Draft
20 Square Guidelines to the Commission at your
21 October meeting.
22 Today the Commission will hear
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1 presentations from the four finalists of our
2 Memorials for the Future Competition which was
3 co-sponsored by NCPC, the National Park Service
4 and the Van Alen Institute. I'd like to note
5 that members of the public are invited to view
6 the finalists' exhibition at the Kennedy Center
7 Hall of Nations through October 20th. So if
8 you're not able to see it tonight, we do hope
9 that you're able to see it while it's being
10 exhibited sometime over the next month.
11 I'd like to formally congratulate
12 Diane Sullivan, who is a recently appointed
13 Director of Urban Design and Plan Review.
14 Diane?
15 Most recently Diane served as a senior
16 planner and project manager to the Southwest
17 Ecodistrict Plan and the Commission's point on
18 the District Zoning Regulation review. Today is
19 Diane's first meeting in her new role.
20 Finally, we welcome Annie Rice.
21 Annie?
22 A senior at the University of Maryland
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1 majoring in environmental science and policy.
2 She will work in our Office of Public Engagement
3 focusing on our flooding and stormwater work this
4 semester. So welcome to Annie.
5 And that is my presentation for today.
6 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. Any
7 questions for Mr. Acosta?
8 (No audible response.)
9 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Congratulations,
10 Diane.
11 [INSERT - REPORT OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR]
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1 LEGISLATIVE UPDATE
2 CHAIRMN BRYANT: Welcome, Annie.
3 Agenda Item No. 4 is the legislative
4 update, and general counsel Ms. Schuyler.
5 MS. SCHUYLER: Thank you, Mr.
6 Chairman. I have one item to report. It
7 pertains to H.R. 1475, which is the Korean War
8 Veterans Memorial Wall of Remembrance Act. This
9 was introduced in March of '15, passed the House
10 in February of '16, and this week, earlier this
11 week it was approved by the Senate. So it will
12 be going to the President next for signature.
13 Pursuant to this act, a wall of
14 remembrance will be added to the Korean War
15 Memorial to commemorate U.S. soldiers, members
16 from the Republic of Korea Armed Forces and
17 members from the United Nations Command who were
18 killed in action, wounded in action, missing in
19 action or were prisoners of war.
20 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. Any
21 questions for Ms. Schuyler?
22 (No audible response.)
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. Agenda
2 Item No. --
3 MEMBER WRIGHT: I actually did have
4 one question.
5 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Yes, please?
6 MEMBER WRIGHT: Following up on that,
7 is there -- does the -- I have not read the
8 language of the build. Does it stipulate design
9 content, because it was very specific: a glass
10 wall around the trees, or is the design of the
11 thing now up for the usual --
12 MS. SCHUYLER: I don't recall specific
13 language, but I'd be happy -- let me check the
14 act and get back with you.
15 MEMBER MAY: I can speak to that.
16 MS. SCHUYLER: Oh, yes.
17 MEMBER MAY: The language does not
18 stipulate the design that was presented
19 previously.
20 MS. SCHUYLER: It doesn't?
21 MEMBER MAY: And it states I think
22 that it has to follow the Commemorative --
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1 (Simultaneous speaking.)
2 MS. SCHUYLER: Right.
3 MEMBER MAY: -- process.
4 MS. SCHUYLER: Right. I think what
5 happened --
6 MEMBER MAY: So it will go through the
7 normal design process. And in our discussions
8 with Hill staff we included a number of
9 possibilities for how it might be done given the
10 number of problems with that particular proposal.
11 So, we'll see where it goes.
12 MS. SCHUYLER: I think what happened
13 is that was originally in the House version and
14 the Senate passed what they call an amendment in
15 the nature of a substitute. And that's where the
16 change may have occurred.
17 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS - NO PRESENTATIONS
18 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Okay. Agenda Item
19 No. 5 is the consent calendar, and currently we
20 have eight items on the consent calendar.
21 I would draw your attention to Item
22 No. 5B, file 7756. We received a letter late
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1 yesterday from D.C. Water expressing some
2 concerns. And so what I would recommend is that
3 the Chair entertain a motion to move file 7756,
4 Item 5B, from the consent calendar to the action
5 agenda for purposes of discussion and for
6 purposes of a possible amendment.
7 MEMBER WRIGHT: So moved.
8 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: There's a motion and
9 a --
10 MEMBER RHODES: Second.
11 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- second. All in
12 favor of moving that item to the action agenda,
13 say aye?
14 (Chorus of aye.)
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
16 (No audible response.)
17 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It is moved and we
18 will take that up momentarily.
19 The remaining items, now 7 items on
20 the consent calendar are as follows:
21 Item 5A is approving preliminary and
22 final plans for AT&T antenna upgrades to the
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1 Hubert Humphrey Building, Lafayette Building,
2 Liberty Loan Building and the Herbert C. Hoover
3 Building.
4 [INSERT - AT&T ANTENNA UPGRADES]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item 5C is
2 approving the preliminary and final site and
3 building plans for a new ground vehicle fueling
4 facility at Fort Belvoir, the south post in
5 Fairfax County.
6 [INSERT - GROUND VEHICLE FUELING FACILITY]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Item 5D is approving
2 the preliminary and final site and building plans
3 for commercial cellular infrastructure at the
4 Pentagon Reservation.
5 [INSERT - COMMERCIAL CELLULAR IT INFRASTRUCTURE
6 PROJECT]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Item 5E is approving
2 the preliminary and final site and building plans
3 for an academic instruction facility at Marine
4 Corps Base Quantico in Prince William County,
5 Virginia.
6 [ACADEMIC INSTRUCTION FACILITY]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Item 5F approves a
2 correctly to a January 10, 2013 Commission action
3 modifying the General Development Plan for the
4 Anacostia Stream Valley Park in Prince Georges
5 County for railroad expansion purposes.
6 [INSERT - MODIFICATION TO THE GENERAL DEVELOPMENT
7 PLAN]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Item 5G is the
2 approval of preliminary and final plans for flood
3 hardening at the Cleveland Park, Shaw-Howard
4 University, and Capitol South Metrorail stations.
5 Three stations.
6 [INSERT - FLOOD HARDENING]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Item 5H is the
2 approval of preliminary site and building plans
3 for the Center Building east entry at Department
4 of Homeland Security Headquarters at the St.
5 Elizabeths West Campus.
6 [INSERT = CENTER BUILDING EAST ENTRY]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: So those remaining
2 seven items, is there a motion to adopt those
3 items?
4 MEMBER RHODES: So moved.
5 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's moved and --
6 MEMBER WRIGHT: Second.
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- seconded. Is
8 there any discussion on any one of the items?
9 Mr. May?
10 MEMBER MAY: Yes, I just want to make
11 one comment about two of the proposals. We have
12 two antenna-related projects that are in here.
13 One is atop a number of GSA buildings; the other
14 is at the Pentagon. And it's just one of those
15 pet peeves for me is the way so many buildings
16 are getting junked up with all these antennas on
17 the top, and that's obvious in the one case.
18 And it's not enough that I would ever
19 -- that in this circumstance I would vote against
20 that project, but it's apparent that already
21 there's a lot of junk up there on the top of the
22 GSA buildings. And I really do think that we
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1 need to look more carefully at that to see what
2 can be done in the future to better locate or
3 disguise these things.
4 And I bring up the DoD project because
5 they actually made an effort to hide those
6 antennas and built sort of a false structure to
7 enclose them. And while I don't know that the
8 resulting design is really fantastic, at least
9 it's not covered with -- they didn't just paint
10 them the color of the building and pretend that
11 it would go away.
12 And it is of course a refrigeration
13 plant, not the most elaborate or important
14 building in itself, although it is one of the
15 finest classically detailed refrigeration plants
16 built of IFUS that I've seen. But still, I think
17 there was an effort to cover it, and I think that
18 the -- I do appreciate that. And I hope that we
19 pay more attention to that in the future.
20 And I'm not calling out GSA
21 specifically for this. This is a problem kind of
22 across the board and it's an issue in many of the
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1 zoning cases that I participate in and it's just
2 -- I can't let my pet peeve go on this one. So,
3 thank you.
4 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Understood. Any
5 further discussion or questions about any item on
6 the consent calendar?
7 (No audible response.)
8 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Having been moved
9 and seconded, all in favor of the consent
10 calendar, say aye?
11 (Chorus of aye.)
12 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
13 (No audible response.)
14 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's passed.
15 ACTION ITEM - WITH PRESENTATION
16 US GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION,
17 TINGEY STREET AND 3RD STREET, SE,
18 WASHINGTON D.C. - PARCEL L2 -
19 SOUTHEAST FEDERAL CENTER
20 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Moving to the action
21 items, we'll first take up that which we just
22 moved from consent to action, and it is for
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1 approving comments. This is not to approve a
2 project, but this is simply to approve comments
3 to the GSA, from NCPC to GSA on the 35 percent
4 site and building plans for parcel L2, the
5 Southeast Federal Center, pursuant to the 2005
6 Memorandum of Understanding.
7 [INSERT - PARCEL L2 - SOUTHEAST FEDERAL CENTER]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: And I understand we
2 have someone here from -- representing D.C. Water
3 to speak, but, Mr. Hart, you'll say a word or two
4 about this?
5 MR. HART: Just a moment while we're
6 opening this.
7 (Pause.)
8 MR. HART: Yes, I just really wanted
9 to have an image on the screen to show where this
10 is for folks. I know that in the packet there's
11 the PowerPoint that shows where this is located,
12 and with respect to the D.C. Water property,
13 which is to the west of this. And you'll note
14 parcel L2 is located on the Southeast Federal
15 Center, which is this parcel here, as well as a
16 portion of it over here. And the D.C. Water
17 parcel is just to the west of where Parcel L is.
18 This is showing what the master plan
19 had back in 2007, which is the most recent master
20 plan that we have for the project, again where
21 the D.C. Water or WASA property is, and then the
22 Parcel L, which is to the east of that.
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1 I think GSA would like to make a few
2 comments on this as well.
3 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Sure. Ms. Wright?
4 MEMBER WRIGHT: My understanding was
5 that somebody from D.C. Water wanted to speak, so
6 I'll follow up.
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Okay. I think we
8 have Tracy Themak representing D.C. Water.
9 Welcome.
10 MS. THEMAK: Thank you, members of the
11 Commission. We are just here -- I have with me
12 -- from D.C. Water I have Qwendolyn Brown, and we
13 also have an engineer from D.C. Water we wanted
14 to have available if you had specific questions
15 about the letter that you received last night.
16 D.C. Water's position at this point,
17 we understand that the authority of the
18 Commission is not to disapprove or approve the
19 application, but to submit comments on it. And
20 our concern at this point is that this has been
21 in the process really since 2003, but since 2007
22 with these concerns, and we have not seen the
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1 coordination of efforts with GSA and Forest City
2 that we would really like to see so that these
3 appropriate boundaries and the structural
4 integrity issues can be resolved before this
5 project moves forward. So that's really our
6 intent, to bring that to your attention.
7 We would ask that the comments you
8 submit on the proposal strongly encourage --
9 we're essentially asking for your help to
10 strongly encourage GSA and Forest City to
11 coordinate efforts so that we don't have any of
12 the impacts that were outlined in the letter.
13 But again, we're here primarily to answer any
14 specific questions you may have, and we do have
15 members of the engineering staff here as well.
16 [INSERT - DC WATER STATEMENT]
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Good. Well, thank
2 you. We're glad you're here.
3 MS. THEMAK: Thank you.
4 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: We may have
5 questions.
6 MS. THEMAK: Great. Okay.
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Ms. Wright?
8 MEMBER WRIGHT: Okay. So to refresh
9 everyone's memory, this is a development
10 agreement that GSA has with Forest City
11 Washington. The Southeast Federal Center Master
12 Plan was approved in 2007. This parcel is part
13 of that development. The Commission's
14 responsibility is to provide comments that are
15 advisory in the 45 days. As Carlton already
16 mentioned, we do not have approval authority over
17 the site and building plans.
18 I"m going to call up to the podium
19 Brett Banks, who is GSA's project executive
20 because I can't say that I've been in these
21 meetings, but I do know that GSA and Forest City
22 have held at least five meetings over the past
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1 two years on Parcel L2 with D.C. Water. And we
2 are preparing a response to the letter at the
3 moment and we -- which we believe is somewhat
4 inaccurate.
5 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Mr. Banks, welcome.
6 MR. BANKS: Good afternoon and excuse
7 my appearance. I wasn't planning on being here
8 today.
9 So just to kind of further what Mina
10 had said, we have an MOU obviously with NCPC. We
11 also have one with the Commission of Fine Arts,
12 and there is also a programmatic agreement that
13 lays out terms and conditions related to the
14 review of the entire design at the site.
15 To that end, we have sent out on every
16 parcel and on the master plan notification to all
17 the consulting parties of which D.C. Water is
18 one. And Carlton has seen that he's been on
19 those emails, because NCPC is a consulting party.
20 So while we are willing to work with D.C. Water
21 to potentially address any issues they have, we
22 have done our job from a regulatory perspective
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1 and as a good neighbor in sending our
2 notification, but there hasn't been any
3 participation from D.C. Water.
4 So I don't want to get into the he
5 said, she said, but I do want to just correct
6 what was just said and clarify what's in the
7 letters that we have done what we're supposed to,
8 but we are willing to have some conversation.
9 And I've had three conversations with D.C.
10 Water's general counsel since the first letter
11 came in a week ago. So I just want to set the
12 record straight. But again, we are willing to --
13 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Sure.
14 MR. BANK: -- engage in conversation.
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. Ms.
16 Wright?
17 MEMBER WRIGHT: So having said that,
18 we have an amendment that we'd like to offer to
19 the EDR; and I have language, which generally
20 states we will continue to coordinate with D.C.
21 Water, (of course), in parens. And that's really
22 all we have to say.
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Okay. You have --
2 you want to --
3 MEMBER WRIGHT: Language? I'm just --
4 is anybody -- I'm sure Peter has a question.
5 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Mr. May?
6 MEMBER MAY: Yes. Because I'm leaning
7 forward, right?
8 No, all we've heard so far is about
9 the discussions between GSA and D.C. Water, and I
10 -- because we just got the letter today, I'm not
11 sure I fully understand what the meat of the
12 matter is. What are the actual issues here that
13 we are dealing with? Does it have to do with
14 pipes that are under the site?
15 MEMBER WRIGHT: Structural issues.
16 Access issues under the street and under the
17 site.
18 MEMBER MAY: Under the street?
19 MEMBER WRIGHT: And a lot -- and much
20 of the design has been driven in consideration of
21 these issues, which is why it's a little bit
22 difficult to receive this letter.
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1 MEMBER MAY: Right. Yes, and I mean,
2 aren't there -- I mean, does D.C. Water have
3 explicit easements through the property that --
4 for the protection of their infrastructure?
5 MEMBER WRIGHT: Brett? I don't want
6 to say the wrong thing.
7 MEMBER MAY: Understand.
8 MEMBER WRIGHT: Yes, he's got the
9 details. I've been in the meetings for the
10 design.
11 MR. BANKS: So if we could continue to
12 look at it, for the infrastructure you have their
13 engineer here, so you can bring him up. Their
14 infrastructure runs underneath what is 2nd
15 Street.
16 Carlton, if you'd go back two slides.
17 MR. HART: Okay. Sure. Where this --
18 MR. BANKS: Okay.
19 MR. HART: This is what they're
20 talking about. What's here --
21 MR. BANKS: So it's not in the
22 property boundary line of Parcel L.
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1 MR. HART: Right.
2 MR. BANKS: It's just outside of it.
3 And so, to the point about -- I know that Forest
4 City has had some conversations with D.C. Water
5 about this infrastructure. In the 2007 master
6 plan 2nd Street was laid out to be reconstituted
7 as a vehicular street. And it's funded through a
8 pilot program down there where Forest City
9 working with DDOT takes care of all the
10 improvements and then they deed the streets over
11 to Forest -- or over to the District when they're
12 done.
13 So 2nd Street, as you can see to the
14 west of L was -- again in the approved master
15 plan was to be vehicular. My understanding is
16 that wasn't part of the conversations, but that
17 Forest City has had conversations with D.C. Water
18 about their infrastructure to the end that we
19 actually had another submission on this calendar,
20 which we removed to have further discussions with
21 D.C. Water because the amendment to the master
22 plan was going to change 2nd Street to a
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1 pedestrian street because we had heard from D.C.
2 Water that the infrastructure -- or Forest City
3 had heard from D.C. Water that the infrastructure
4 was poor and couldn't actually handle heavy
5 trucks or a vehicular road there.
6 So they were going to change it to a
7 pedestrian right-of-way. And so, but we pulled
8 that off so that -- because the letter came in
9 and we hadn't yet -- we hadn't heard from D.C.
10 Water at GSA through the consultation process and
11 the programmatic agreement.
12 MEMBER MAY: So, I mean, just from a
13 technical perspective the entirety of the issue
14 has to do with infrastructure that's within the
15 2nd Street or the 3rd Street right-of-way,
16 whether it's declared a -- it's all 2nd? I saw
17 lines on both sides, so --
18 MR. BANKS: The issue here I think is
19 with their infrastructure --
20 (Simultaneous speaking.)
21 MEMBER MAY: Just with 2nd.
22 MR. BANKS: Just the 2nd Street, yes.
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1 So, but --
2 MEMBER MAY: And the access issue has
3 to do with -- I mean, don't they have access off
4 of -- they don't need -- D.C. Water doesn't need
5 access off of 2nd Street.
6 MR. BANKS: You would have to -- I
7 think they would have to answer that question. I
8 don't know. Again, this has been the laid out
9 and approved master plan that would again
10 reconstitute 2nd Street there.
11 MEMBER MAY: Okay.
12 MR. BANKS: I don't know whether they
13 can enter off Canal or come off of Tingey. I
14 don't know the answer to that question.
15 MEMBER MAY: All right. Thank you.
16 MR. BANKS: But we are within our
17 property boundaries here. And we're at 35
18 percent, so we -- they haven't performed the
19 geotechnical studies or the engineering studies
20 that are required. But they certainly -- they've
21 developed many of the parcels down at the site.
22 On Parcel O here there's a WMATA tunnel that goes
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1 underneath. So they understand all these
2 constraints.
3 MEMBER MAY: You've answered my
4 question.
5 MR. BANKS: Okay.
6 MEMBER MAY: Thank you.
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Mr. Dixon?
8 MEMBER DIXON: I yield to Mina.
9 MEMBER WRIGHT: So here's our proposed
10 language to add to the EDR: "Notes that GSA and
11 Forest City Washington will continue working with
12 D.C. Water to discuss existing below-grade sewer
13 infrastructure along 2nd Street, S.E., and report
14 back to staff on the status of this discussion
15 prior to submitting the master plan amendment."
16 MEMBER DIXON: Second it.
17 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's been moved and
18 seconded. Further discussion?
19 MEMBER DIXON: Mr. Chairman, I would
20 just ask. I'm not clear. The parties have not
21 been able to get together the way we would like
22 them to get together. Is that what we're
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1 suggesting here?
2 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: I think that's in
3 dispute.
4 MS. BROWN: That is correct, what D.C.
5 Water is suggesting, that I recuse myself.
6 MEMBER DIXON: Okay. And the parties
7 we're talking about are?
8 MS. BROWN: D.C. Water and --
9 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Why don't you
10 identify yourself for the record?
11 MS. BROWN: Yes, my name -- thank you,
12 Commissioners, for having me. My name is
13 Qwendolyn Brown and I am the land use and real
14 estate attorney for D.C. Water.
15 And we -- I authored the letter. We
16 have had several discussions internally about
17 what type of meetings and discussions that have
18 been held between D.C. Water representatives and
19 GSA and Forest City.
20 I do recognize that there have been
21 some discussions with different departments at
22 D.C. Water in relation to D.C. Water's combined
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1 sewer overflow long-term control plan, which is
2 very different than relates to the development of
3 the Southeast Federal Center, as well as the
4 Parcel L2 development.
5 So I don't want the Commission to be
6 confused about discussions that Forest City and
7 GSA claim that they have had. There have been
8 some conversations, but it has not been directly
9 involved with the development of those parcels
10 such that the conversations led to meaningful
11 discussion and implementation in their plans.
12 What's been submitted to the Commission did not
13 necessarily reflect what was discussed in the
14 plans, and that is why we submitted the letter to
15 opposed they plans as presented.
16 MEMBER DIXON: Okay. Well, I'm very
17 concerned always when I hear about folks not
18 talking to each other. We all are. And I'm
19 assuming that the letter and the amendment that
20 has been suggested should help bridge that gap.
21 Is that what you feel?
22 MS. BROWN: Yes.
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1 MS. THEMAK: That's the hope.
2 MS. BROWN: That is the hope.
3 MEMBER DIXON: Has there been any
4 criteria? I mean, it's pretty clear from
5 comments -- any criteria about what you kind of
6 would like to see come out of this other than
7 just a Kumbaya gathering, or do you have anything
8 specific you're kind of concerned about?
9 MS. BROWN: Yes, we have our engineer,
10 Mr. Steve Bian.
11 And I would invite you to come up and
12 speak.
13 Because he can speak to our critical
14 infrastructure.
15 MEMBER DIXON: Yes.
16 MS. BROWN: We --
17 MEMBER DIXON: I mean, I don't want to
18 get into the weeds here, but I am curious about
19 this, because this is a major project across the
20 river from us.
21 MS. BROWN: Yes.
22 MEMBER DIXON: We look at it with
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1 great admiration.
2 MS. BROWN: Yes.
3 MEMBER DIXON: And we're glad D.C.
4 Water is going to do more with that historical
5 location, but --
6 MEMBER WRIGHT: And I have to say that
7 we would dispute the characterization of --
8 MEMBER DIXON: My meaning, yes.
9 MEMBER WRIGHT: -- efforts and
10 actualization of those efforts --
11 MEMBER DIXON: Well, that's --
12 MEMBER WRIGHT: -- by Forest City and
13 by GSA.
14 MEMBER DIXON: Yes, I got the point.
15 And Forest City is the developer, is that
16 correct?
17 MEMBER WRIGHT: Yes.
18 MEMBER DIXON: Okay. They got a lot
19 of juice, and that's important.
20 But let me get back to my question
21 about what you might want to see to come out of
22 these discussions. So when we meet there may
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1 some more of the agenda rather than just
2 chatting.
3 MS. BROWN: Yes, ultimately our hope
4 is to have Forest City and GSA incorporate our
5 suggestions for how to best protect our critical
6 infrastructure that lies underneath and adjacent
7 to Parcel L, whether it's development of Parcel
8 L1, which is in the future, or L2, which is the
9 proposed development for the residential
10 building.
11 We have our engineer Steve Bian and
12 I'd like for him to just briefly speak about the
13 infrastructure there as well as the importance of
14 our two main pumping stations, the historic Main
15 Street pump station as well as the O Street
16 pumping station. Both of those have been located
17 in that area for over 100 years.
18 MEMBER DIXON: Yes.
19 MS. BROWN: The Tiber Creek trunk
20 sewer was actually installed back in 1880. And
21 we recognize, as we stated in the letter that we
22 sent to the Commission, that the Tiber Creek
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1 trunk sewer has been there for a very long time.
2 It is poor condition. It is poorly supported.
3 So right now that is in our plans for the future
4 to hopefully rehabilitate that trunk sewer to
5 stabilize it.
6 MEMBER DIXON: Yes.
7 MS. BROWN: And we want to be able to
8 do that without having any interference or
9 further crack propagation that could happen to
10 that.
11 MEMBER DIXON: Yes, so it's not about
12 historical preservation. It's about
13 functionality.
14 MS. BROWN: It is definitely about
15 functionality and operations.
16 MEMBER DIXON: Can I -- I'd like to
17 hear -- and I would -- I"m sorry, Commission, but
18 I'd like to hear from your gentleman, please.
19 MR. BIAN: Yes, this is --
20 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Briefly state your
21 name again, please.
22 MR. BIAN: Oh, my name is Steve Bian,
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1 civil structure design supervisor.
2 MEMBER DIXON: I didn't quite hear
3 your name. Could you --
4 MR. BIAN: My name is Steve Bian. I'm
5 a design supervisor of -- civil structure design
6 in D.C. Water.
7 And this part of -- Tiber Creek
8 actually is a surplus. 1905 is supported by
9 timber pile and base historic perspective. This
10 is built in within -- beyond the other
11 shorelines. So it's not in a good geological
12 term. And currently majority of this segment
13 next to Parcel L2 is supported by the steel
14 frame, because you can see from inside is
15 fractured off side and the tree root is growing
16 through.
17 And this is concrete masonry. It
18 means it's really heavily dependent on the
19 surrounding soil to support that old Roman arch
20 structure. You have no steel poured in the body
21 of the arch. So it's really not recognize as a
22 historic structure, but it's a very historic
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1 makeup. And so, it's something so tricky to
2 design to restore and to maintain.
3 So we're in the position of absolutely
4 trying to maintain the optimum performance.
5 Otherwise, the nearby upstream neighborhood will
6 be flooded in case of something happen with this
7 Tiber Creek sewer even after we have this clean
8 river long-term project kick in. So this is a
9 very mission critical in our operations.
10 And this is -- imagine you reviewed
11 anything today, it's a good life of 50 years.
12 This one has been more than 110 years. So we're
13 in dire need to collaborate or coordinate with
14 all the stakeholders trying to renew the life of
15 this dinosaur.
16 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you.
17 MEMBER DIXON: Yes, I think this whole
18 water issue is serious. And this is an very
19 element of our water system in D.C. Is that
20 correct?
21 MR. BIAN: Very correct. And actually
22 I was in a meeting. We discuss how limited
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1 options we have. We want to maintain the upgrade
2 structurally, however, because the hydraulic
3 demand probably we cannot do more than lining
4 something from within more than a few inch.
5 MEMBER DIXON: Yes.
6 MR. BIAN: Otherwise, it will causing
7 some flooding on the street, in somebody's
8 basement not far from this spot.
9 MEMBER DIXON: And also loss of water,
10 I'm assuming.
11 MR. BIAN: That's true. That will
12 likely causing SSO or CSO event --
13 MEMBER DIXON: Okay.
14 MR. BIAN: -- not planned for.
15 MEMBER DIXON: And I think that it is
16 always a desire when we have dealt with things
17 coming up to build and have a lot of housing and
18 stuff, but if you don't have any water, you got a
19 problem and --
20 MR. BIAN: We are super careful when
21 we build the clean river tunnels, when we do the
22 shotting through the tunnel, we go extra miles
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1 and to do -- underpin the nearby sewers, even
2 doing the soil mixes to stabilize this old white
3 land to prevent any cave-in. And this is the
4 effort we like to share with the nearby
5 developers, how we handle the business to
6 document in the safety.
7 MEMBER DIXON: Thank you. We've had
8 other jurisdictions in the nation that have
9 played around water and they regret it years
10 later. We don't want to have that happen. And I
11 think there will be cooperation to make sure that
12 we deal with that. I'm hoping. Thank you for
13 your time.
14 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: No doubt GSA and
15 Forest City will continue working together and
16 the purposes of the amendment is to underscore
17 that.
18 Ms. Wright, do you want to read your
19 amendment one more time --
20 MEMBER WRIGHT: Sure.
21 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- just to make sure
22 everyone knows?
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1 MEMBER WRIGHT: "Notes that GSA and
2 Forest City Washington will continue working with
3 D.C. Water to discuss existing below-grade sewer
4 infrastructure along 2nd Street, S.E., and report
5 back to staff on the status of this discussion
6 prior to submitting the master plan amendment."
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. Is there
8 discussion among Commission members about the
9 proposed amendment that has been moved and
10 seconded?
11 MEMBER GALLAS: Just a question.
12 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Mr. Gallas and then
13 Mr. May.
14 MEMBER GALLAS: So the discussions
15 would theoretically respond with associated
16 design that would then --
17 MEMBER WRIGHT: Sure.
18 MEMBER GALLAS: -- ensure safety and
19 stabilization?
20 MEMBER WRIGHT: As a matter of course
21 we would do this. And as I noted already, the
22 design has been significantly affected by this
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1 very set of issues. So this is very frustrating
2 for us.
3 MEMBER MAY: I support the amendment
4 knowing that we really are just in a position to
5 comment on this and we certainly want to make
6 sure that there is continued coordination. I'm
7 also certain that D.C. Water and GSA -- the last
8 thing they want is to have a failure of this
9 sewer.
10 I will say that there are some really
11 loud alarm bells that go off when I read things
12 about dewatering a 20 or 30-foot-wide 100-year-
13 old sewer, dewatering when it's supported by
14 timber piles. And knowing that we're dealing
15 with a fairly narrow right-of-way with large
16 excavation next to it, I mean, all these things
17 are -- crazy alarms are going off in my head
18 about it because it is a formula for real
19 problems if you don't handle the excavation
20 properly and if you don't take into consideration
21 the way the soil behaves and so on.
22 So, I mean, it is a major, major thing
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1 and I'm certain that in the end GSA and Forest
2 City and D.C. Water will have to come to some
3 agreement because nobody wants it to fail.
4 I also would say that I have sympathy
5 for the issue of how you speak to D.C. Water,
6 because I do know that they are siloed within
7 their organization when it comes to things like
8 the long-term control project versus the branch
9 that handles the sewer system and so on. So it
10 is quite possible that it seems like you're
11 talking to the right people when in fact maybe
12 you're not. I have encountered that myself.
13 MEMBER WRIGHT: That never happens at
14 GSA.
15 (Laughter.)
16 MEMBER MAY: No. No. And I also know
17 how much fun it is --
18 MEMBER WRIGHT: I'm just not
19 sympathetic.
20 MEMBER MAY: -- to work with GSA as
21 well.
22 (Laughter.)
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1 MEMBER WRIGHT: That was a joke.
2 (Laughter.)
3 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: All right. The EDR
4 as amended is before you. Well, first of all,
5 the motion on the -- vote on the amendment.
6 Sensing no further discussion on the amendment,
7 all in favor of the amendment, say aye?
8 (Chorus of aye.)
9 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
10 (No audible response.)
11 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Amendment passes.
12 Is there any further discussion on the EDR as
13 amended?
14 (No audible response.)
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Hearing none, all in
16 favor of the EDR as amended, say aye?
17 (Chorus of aye.)
18 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
19 (No audible response.)
20 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: The EDR is approved.
21 Thank you to GSA and to D.C. Water.
22 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE,
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1 HARRY S. TRUMAN FEDERAL BUILDING,
2 2201 C STREET, N.W., WASHINGTON, D.C. -
3 PERIMETER SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS
4 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item No. 6A
5 is a perimeter security improvement at the Harry
6 S. Truman Federal Building, which is the
7 headquarters of the Department of State. And we
8 have Ms. Lee.
9 This is a good news project. It's one
10 of those that's been a long time coming and it's
11 a good one to have before us.
12 MS. LEE: Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman
13 and members of the Commission. The Department of
14 State has submitted final site and building plans
15 for the perimeter security improvements at the
16 Harry S. Truman Building.
17 Over the last 12 years the Commission
18 has review projects related to HST perimeter
19 security improvements. As you may recall, the
20 Commission reviewed the preliminary plans in
21 October 2015. More recently the Commission
22 reviewed the transfer of jurisdiction of
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1 Reservation 104 related to this project in May
2 2016. In addition, the applicant has coordinated
3 the HST perimeter security effort with two
4 separate but related projects previously approved
5 by the Commission, including the Diplomacy Center
6 and the American Pharmacists Association
7 perimeter security.
8 Today we will share the final plan
9 that reflects the long and positive coordination
10 process between local and federal agencies. We
11 are pleased with the outcome and want to
12 recognize the Department of State remarkable
13 effort integrating landscape, stormwater
14 management, perimeter security to enhance the
15 public space.
16 As you may recall, the HST is the
17 headquarters of the Department of State. The
18 project is located in the Northwest Rectangle
19 Historic District, and area of major Government
20 headquarters, monumental institutions adjacent to
21 the National Mall.
22 Here is a closer look at the site.
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1 The 11-acre site is generally bound by 21st
2 Street to the east, C Street to the south, 23rd
3 Street to the west, D Street, the E Street
4 express ramp and the Virginia Avenue to the
5 north. The HST was constructed in two separate
6 phases 20 years apart. The original H-shaped
7 building refer to as the Marshall Wing was built
8 in 1941. A significant L-shape expansion that
9 wraps around the original building was completed
10 in 1960, referred to as New State. And the
11 latest addition currently under construction is
12 the Diplomacy Center which will be completed this
13 fall.
14 Here you can see images of existing
15 conditions. There is a lot of temporary security
16 measures including concrete planters, screened
17 vestibules, a truck inspection facility and
18 vehicular barriers. The proposed perimeter
19 security will replace all of these unattractive
20 temporary barriers with permanent security.
21 Moving onto project objectives, as an
22 Interagency Security Committee level 5 facility,
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1 the building requires a higher level of
2 protection. You recall the project objectives
3 are to secure the building, protect employees and
4 visitors and improve the streetscape.
5 The project will be implemented in two
6 phases. The current submission includes phase 1
7 highlighted in orange which consists of a
8 security pavilion along D Street here, guard
9 booths, perimeter security and site improvements
10 throughout the site. Phase 2 highlighted in
11 purple includes three additional security
12 pavilions that will be submitted to the
13 Commission in the future.
14 Moving onto staff analysis, the final
15 design has not changed significantly, however, it
16 considers key planning issues raised by the
17 Commission during preliminary review.
18 First, I will give you an overview of
19 the final plan. Then I will focus on the design
20 modifications that have been made since
21 preliminary review and how the applicant has
22 responded to previous comments.
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1 As listed here, previous comments were
2 organized into five categories including
3 landscape, protected barrier system, streetscape,
4 pocket park and stormwater management.
5 As you may recall, the project
6 includes a range of streetscape and building
7 elements and includes relocating employee and
8 visitor screening for the interior of the
9 building at four of the building entrances
10 providing a total of nine guard booths to control
11 vehicular access, developing a protected barrier
12 system, reconfiguring D Street to include a
13 pocket park, realigning curbs to address
14 vehicular standoff distances, maintaining the
15 same amount of traffic lanes and direction, and
16 providing a consistent -- actually relocating the
17 truck inspection facility and providing a
18 consistent 10-foot sidewalk around the site.
19 Now, I'm going to show you the areas
20 that have changed since preliminary review. You
21 will see that these minor changes are mostly
22 concentrated along 21st and D Street. In
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1 general, the latest plan refines the pocket park,
2 expands bike storage, simplifies the bollard
3 layout, includes additional benches and develops
4 further the stormwater management and landscape
5 plan. It also includes material selection for
6 streetscape elements, the D Street pavilion and
7 guard booths.
8 Regarding landscape elements, the
9 final plan introduces significant landscape
10 improvements. The landscape tries to accommodate
11 as many trees as possible and provides
12 approximately 200 new trees. In general, the
13 plan continues the existing tree palette from the
14 surroundings and respects the former character of
15 the area. The applicant work with GSA and DDOT
16 to include a diverse palette with 18 different
17 tree species including street trees, under-story
18 trees and a mix of shrubs, ground covers and
19 pollinator-friendly species.
20 Moving onto the protective barrier
21 system, the design includes a perimeter security
22 barrier system consisting of freestanding
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1 bollards represented by the dotted line, bollards
2 with horizontal rails you seen in the dashed
3 line, and solid clad walls, which is the solid
4 line. The solid walls indicate major building
5 corners, major building entrances and corners.
6 Here you can see a comparison of
7 existing and proposed conditions along 21st
8 Street. During preliminary review the Commission
9 recommended to further develop the design of
10 streetscape and security elements. The applicant
11 has provided sample boards which are located next
12 to the screen to give you a better sense of the
13 range of materials provided. The materials and
14 design refinements have been coordinated with CFA
15 and NCPC staff.
16 As you can see in this rendering the
17 bollard design here includes a low rounded top
18 and a dark gray metal cover. The rail center
19 line connection has the same metal finish as the
20 bollards and the solid walls, as you can see here
21 in the entrance are clad with charcoal granite.
22 In general, we find that the proposed materials
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1 are durable and compatible with the existing
2 building.
3 During preliminary review the
4 Commission recommended to minimize the number of
5 bollards to promote pedestrian movement and
6 provide a more graceful transition between
7 security and architectural elements. You can see
8 side by side the preliminary and final
9 submission. The image on the right shows that
10 the applicant has simplified the bollard layout
11 to improve pedestrian safety. The final plan
12 replaces pedestrian core ramps, you can see here,
13 with raised sidewalk crossing here at the loading
14 and parking entrances along as 21st as well as C
15 Street.
16 The applicant has provided an improved
17 rendering of the D Street pavilion. The design
18 and materials of the pavilion are inspired by the
19 existing canopies and follow the architectural
20 vocabulary with a large projecting canopy and
21 receding columns. The proposed materials include
22 stainless steel cladding, glass and stone base.
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1 The materials and design of the pavilions are
2 also consistent with the proposed guard booths,
3 which you saw last October.
4 Now I'm going to describe the
5 streetscape elements. Overall we find that the
6 proposal includes significant streetscape
7 amenities. The plan includes more than twice the
8 amount of existing bike racks and benches. These
9 amenities will be located mostly near building
10 entrances. Since preliminary review the proposed
11 bike rack at the corner of the pocket park, as
12 you can see, has been remove and relocated
13 farther to the east along D Street and additional
14 benches have been added along 21st Street.
15 To give you an example of how security
16 and streetscape elements have been integrated,
17 here is an enlarged plan at the 23rd Street
18 entrance. As you may know, 23rd Street is a
19 significant corridor that connects to the Lincoln
20 Memorial. You can see that solid granite walls
21 announce the entrance and also incorporate
22 benches along the sidewalk.
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1 Now I'm going to talk about the pocket
2 park. We're very pleased with the end result of
3 this particular project component and feel that
4 the design has improved since preliminary review.
5 As I mentioned earlier, site
6 improvements along these D Street include a
7 pocket park, a security pavilion and a truck
8 inspection station. Here is a section along D
9 Street. You can see that the pocket park
10 includes a seating area, landscape and provides a
11 gathering space.
12 During the preliminary review the
13 Commission provided several comments related to
14 the character of the park, seating arrangement,
15 addition of sculptural elements, relocation of
16 the bicycle rack and reduction of solid walls.
17 As you can see in this image the final design
18 responds to the Commission comments.
19 The plan identifies two potential
20 locations for sculptural elements here and here,
21 includes larger landscape areas with robust
22 planting, revises the seating arrangements to
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1 create more intimate spaces, replaces the bike
2 rack with benches and landscape to minimize
3 clutter at the corner, replaces the solid
4 security walls with bollard and rails to improve
5 visibility in this area, and simplifies the
6 security layout to improve circulation,
7 especially at the corner.
8 So here is an image of today's
9 condition. So this is what we saw last October,
10 and this is the new design. Overall we feel that
11 the pocket park is more welcoming and inviting.
12 In this image you can see less solid walls, more
13 intimate seating arrangement and enlarged
14 planting areas.
15 Lastly, I'm going to talk about
16 stormwater management. Last fall the Commission
17 requested that the applicant provide a stormwater
18 management plan. The project includes three
19 types of low-impact development opportunities to
20 capture roadway and sidewalk runoff: bioretention
21 open areas along D Street, highlighted in green;
22 bioretention tree planters around the site,
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1 highlighted in blue; and additional soil volume
2 under sidewalks, highlighted in red.
3 The stormwater management plan
4 provided by the applicant addresses compliance
5 with federal and local requirements. In
6 addition, the plan reduces impervious areas by
7 approximately seven percent by replacing pavement
8 with new planting areas. The applicant has
9 worked closely with DOEE to meet the full
10 required volume for public and private space.
11 Initially, the Department of State
12 consider using stormwater retention credits from
13 other federal facilities to comply with local
14 requirements, however, it was determined that
15 because this program was so new and still needs
16 to be better understood by federal agencies, it
17 would not work for this project. As you may
18 know, NCPC and other federal agencies are
19 currently studying this topic.
20 Last fall the Commission expressed
21 concerns about soil volume. As you can see in
22 this section, the bioretention planters include
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1 street trees and perimeter security. If you
2 compare the two sections, you can see that the
3 soil profile, here and here, has change in order
4 to meet local stormwater requirements. The
5 Design Team found two ways to mitigate the
6 challenges posed by the security foundation:
7 promote root development and increase soil
8 volume. The plan includes a 24-inch-wide barrier
9 footing breaks, you can see here, and additional
10 soil volume under the sidewalk, here.
11 In general, the footing breaks
12 correspond to street tree locations and will
13 allow the root to connect to additional soil on
14 the opposite side of the barrier. I note that
15 this is an innovative solution and the applicant
16 has develop a unique construction detail to
17 balance the tree health without compromising
18 security. Managing this amount of stormwater in
19 such an urban condition is very difficult and we
20 commend the applicant for what they have been
21 able to achieve.
22 And so with that, the Executive
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1 Director recommends for the Commission to approve
2 the final site and building plans for the HST
3 Building, commend the applicant for working
4 closely with NCPC, CFA, GSA and other Government
5 agencies to develop a design solution that
6 balances perimeter security, landscape and
7 stormwater management and notes that any
8 substantial changes, including but not limited to
9 changes in the stormwater management, landscape
10 and streetscape are required to be submitted to
11 the Commission, and notes that any improvements
12 located in public space will require a public
13 space permit and coordination with DDOT.
14 With this, I conclude my presentation.
15 I"m available for questions, and the Project Team
16 is here as well. Thank you.
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1 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you, Ms. Lee.
2 Turn the discussion to Commission on this long-
3 time coming and very good project. Discussion or
4 recommendation? Or motion?
5 MEMBER DIXON: So moved.
6 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: It's been moved --
7 MEMBER WRIGHT: Second.
8 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- and seconded.
9 Still open for discussion. Sensing there is
10 one --
11 MEMBER WHITE: Just one brief one.
12 I'm really happy with the improvements to the
13 pocket park. Thank you for enhancing that. And
14 the renderings are beautiful.
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: No further
16 discussion. It's been moved and seconded, EDR as
17 presented. All in favor, say aye?
18 (Chorus of aye.)
19 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Opposed, no?
20 (No audible response.)
21 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you, Ms. Lee,
22 very much. And thanks to the whole team who was
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1 -- I know is present today.
2 MS. LEE: Thank you.
3 MEMORIALS FOR THE FUTURE IDEAS COMPETITION
4 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Agenda Item No. 7A
5 is an information presentation on the Memorials
6 for the Future Ideas Competition. This is a fun
7 item, which is not to --
8 (Laughter.)
9 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: -- say the previous
10 ones were not fun.
11 (Laughter.)
12 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: This is an
13 especially celebratory item, I should say.
14 The National Capital Planning
15 Commission has been quite pleased to partner with
16 the National Park Service and the Van Alen
17 Institute on this remarkable exploration of new
18 ideas for commemoration, commemoration of so much
19 of what we do here.
20 Lasting over the last six months the
21 competition has provided a wealth of ideas
22 looking at commemorative subject matter in a
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1 whole new way, using temporary, mobile and
2 adaptive approaches, incorporating innovative
3 technology, telling new stories and adding more
4 voices.
5 This has been an aspiring competition.
6 It has garnered a good deal of public interest
7 and media support -- or media reporting, and I
8 would like to thank everyone, the competitors
9 especially with the jurors and our staff teams as
10 well, for all that you have done.
11 Today marks the culmination of this
12 competition. The exhibition launches tonight at
13 the Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts in the
14 Hall of Nations. The teams will be there from
15 7:00 to 8:00. The Kennedy Center, which is a
16 memorial, is a wonderful venue and I want to
17 recognize and thank Deborah Rutter, the director
18 of the Kennedy Center, who has served on the
19 competition jury as well. In addition, the key
20 findings report, which is entitled, "Not Set in
21 Stone: Memorials for the Future," is also to be
22 released today. We will distribute copies.
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1 We have them already here?
2 So if I could, I'd like to turn it
3 over to fellow Commission Member Peter May to say
4 a word.
5 [INSERT - MEMORIALS FOR THE FUTURE DESIGN
6 COMPETITION]
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1 MEMBER MAY: Thank you very much, Mr.
2 Chairman.
3 So this is the centennial year of the
4 National Park Service, and the actual anniversary
5 was on August 25th, you may have noticed. There
6 was lots of news coverage of that as well.
7 (Laughter.)
8 MEMBER MAY: And there have been many
9 activities during the entire year, and they'll
10 continue for awhile.
11 But we even did our own modern
12 memorial, if you will, at a commemorative at --
13 maybe we could switch to the next slide. So
14 you've just seen the NPS arrowhead, as it is
15 traditionally known. And then we have more than
16 1,000 people holding colorful umbrellas gathered
17 on the Washington Monument grounds, the world's
18 largest arrowhead logo.
19 (Laughter.)
20 MEMBER MAY: So what we have to
21 remember that by are these photos. And so, it
22 becomes part of our history as well.
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1 We are still celebrating the
2 centennial and we're looking forward to a second
3 century. Today with the Modern Memorials Ideas
4 Competition it's a culmination of many months of
5 work with our partners NCPC, and of course the
6 Van Alen Institute as well. I want to thank
7 them, the 89 individuals and groups who entered
8 the competition, and especially the four
9 finalists, and of course the winning team.
10 The centennial and the competition
11 would give us a reason to challenge ourselves and
12 to think creatively about the future of
13 commemoration. And as we head into our second
14 century we are committed to continuing this
15 conversation and engaging people in the stories
16 and commemorations that are important to them and
17 to the shared heritage of our nation. And that's
18 it.
19 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: So our colleague
20 Mike Sherman is here to give us an overview of
21 the competition and then we will hear from the
22 four teams.
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1 Mike?
2 MR. SHERMAN: Good afternoon, Mr.
3 Chairman and members of the Commission. The four
4 finalists are here today and they will present an
5 informational presentation on each of their
6 proposals.
7 But before we begin, I wanted to
8 acknowledge some individuals who have been
9 working really hard over the last six months.
10 First and foremost, we want to publicly
11 acknowledge Mr. David van der Leer and Jessica
12 Lax from the Van Alen Institute who were our
13 competition consultant partners and did a
14 fabulous job of running the competition.
15 I also want to acknowledge Tammy
16 Still. She was the Park Service representative
17 on the Management Team, and she also did a great
18 job.
19 And then finally I'd like to thank
20 Julia Koster, Steve Staudigl, Steven Morgan,
21 Derek Bush, Angela Dupont and Ken Walton from the
22 NCPC staff, who -- and Paul Jutton, thank you,
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1 who all went beyond the call of duty in making
2 sure the competition work was successful.
3 With that, I'd like to give a little
4 bit of background. We have some new Commission
5 members who may not be as familiar with some of
6 our previous efforts. And so, let me give you a
7 little bit of background on some of our efforts
8 to date.
9 The Memorials for the Future
10 Competition continues our past initiatives
11 related to monuments and memorials as well as
12 publications such as the Twin Plan and the
13 Memorials Trends and Practice Report.
14 The Twin Plan identified 100 new sites
15 for proposed memorials while the Memorial Trends
16 and Practice Report addressed content, site and
17 process issues. The Memorial Trends Report also
18 included several key findings such as
19 commemorative subjects concentrated around
20 military events and political leaders. Not a lot
21 of diversity.
22 The process for completing a permanent
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1 memorial is complex, time-sensitive and costly.
2 And finally, memorial proposals are increasingly
3 man-intensive. And one of the major
4 recommendations from the Trends Report included
5 exploring memorial content from the finest grain
6 to the broadest content.
7 Since then NCPC has hosted the Beyond
8 Granite Public Forum which investigated global
9 approaches to public art, place-making and
10 national commemoration. Further, NCPC recently
11 updated the visitors and commemoration element of
12 the Comp Plan which recommends policies to help
13 address these issues. The Memorials for the
14 Future Competition continues this exploration and
15 presents an opportunity for the nation to reflect
16 on how we can fill some of the gaps identified in
17 the Trends Report.
18 In May we received design proposals
19 from 300 individuals making up 89 teams. The top
20 30 semifinalists were selected after an intensive
21 review of the teams' concepts, approaches, site
22 locations and experience. From the top 30
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1 semifinalists our 11 jurors selected the four
2 finalist teams to continue their research and
3 design process. Together the proposals presented
4 ways to engage diverse new subject matter allowed
5 for reinterpretation over time and considered new
6 technologies, as well as honor national context
7 and local experiences.
8 The competition was composed of four
9 phases conducted over a six-month period to
10 include the initial application, research and
11 development of the memorial concepts, design and
12 development and refinement, and then the creation
13 of final project materials, which you'll see
14 examples at the Kennedy Center, as well as today
15 during the presentations.
16 As part of their work, the Van Alen
17 Institute completed a findings report, which you
18 have at your stations. The report identified
19 seven key findings based on the submissions.
20 The first finding was allowing
21 commemorative to be designed for changing
22 narratives. As time passes, new information is
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1 exposed and cultural values shift sometimes
2 creating disconnects between a memorial's
3 original message and representation and modern
4 day perceptions.
5 Secondly, commemorative works should
6 explore universal experiences in addition to
7 places, peoples and events. When we plan future
8 memorials, we have an opportunity to reflect on
9 subjects faced by all people.
10 Next, we should have commemorative
11 works that incorporate and use local settings for
12 national issues. Some issues like climate change
13 may feel abstracted in national debate, but smart
14 design can create real opportunity to engage with
15 and understand these issues in a personal way.
16 The fifth finding by Van Alen is
17 having commemorative works engage the present and
18 future as much as the past. Events that unfold
19 around us every day can be as compelling and
20 culturally important.
21 The next finding was to explore
22 creating memorials with the public as well as for
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1 the public. The memorial design process can go
2 further by offering individuals the chance to
3 make personal contributions that become a part of
4 the actual memorial itself.
5 Another finding is commemorative work
6 designs should consider ephemeral, mobile and
7 temporary forms. the ephemeral creates a sense
8 of urgency, generates excitement and potentially
9 even ignites action.
10 Finally, memorials should explore
11 designs beyond physical space. Technologies
12 allow people to connect around subject matter in
13 ways that don't require central squares or
14 physical infrastructure.
15 As the teams, partners and jurors
16 explored limitations as a critical component to
17 understanding future needs and issues, three main
18 themes or challenges were identified as elements
19 to be addressed moving forward: curation,
20 technology and place-making.
21 Concerning curation, the key research
22 questions include: How can we develop inclusive
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1 and respectful memorials open to diverse and
2 potentially contradictory points of view? How
3 can we update material over time but avoid
4 censorship or message manipulation?
5 Concerning technology, a key question
6 is how do we plan for future technologies that we
7 can't yet imagine?
8 And finally a critical question
9 concerning place-making is how do we create
10 spaces that are valuable to both residents and
11 visitors?
12 NCPC in partnership with the Park
13 Service and other stakeholders will continue to
14 study these questions as we continue our
15 commemorative work initiatives.
16 The Memorials for the Future
17 Competition will be used as a resource for future
18 memorial sponsors. The ideas generated in the
19 competition will offer new and alternative
20 approaches to traditional commemoration. These
21 concepts expand approaches of place-making, use
22 of technology and about telling multiple stories.
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1 The competition is a starting point to
2 discuss some of the major themes emerging from
3 the groups deeply involved in the formal
4 commemorative process as we move beyond granite,
5 including our Commission, the Park Service, the
6 Commission of Fine Arts and the National Capital
7 Memorial Advisory Commission.
8 Later this evening, as you heard
9 earlier, we hope you all can join us at the
10 opening of the exhibition at the Kennedy Center,
11 which will showcase the four finalists'
12 proposals.
13 Now, the four teams will provide you
14 a brief presentation in the following order; and
15 these are the names of the groups: "American
16 Wild," "The Im(migrant)," "VOICEOVER," and
17 "Climate Chronograph." And so the first group is
18 "American Wild."
19 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: As they are coming
20 up, I'll say that the "American Wild" proposal
21 received an honorable mention from the jury from
22 Marrying the Ephemeral and Iconic. The team
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1 selected an iconic aspect of the American
2 experience, the wilderness, found in our national
3 parks and brought it to an urban setting,
4 provides access to the beauty of these landscapes
5 and serves as a witness to changes in the parks
6 and even as a call of action to our nation. It's
7 intended to be a temporary memorial lasting only
8 59 days. It would be part of every day
9 activities.
10 We have with us Shelby Doyle, Forbes
11 Lipschitz and Halina Steiner. Welcome.
12 [INSERT - NOT SET IN STONE]
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1 MS. LIPSCHITZ: Thank you so much for
2 having us here. It's an honor to present in
3 front of the Commission. I'm Forbes Lipschitz.
4 MS. STEINER: I'm Halina Steiner.
5 MS. DOYLE: I'm Shelby Doyle.
6 MS. LIPSCHITZ: And our colleague,
7 Justine Holzman couldn't be here with us today.
8 We're going to speak to you about our
9 proposal, "American Wild." And we believe that
10 the national parks are a living memorial to a
11 really truly uniquely American idea of the
12 wilderness. And through a temporal installation
13 in the D.C. Metro "American Wild" captures the
14 majesty and diversity of the American landscape
15 and brings it to its capital.
16 In celebration of the National Park
17 centennial President Obama expressed his thoughts
18 on the experience of visiting our national parks,
19 and he spoke of their importance as really part
20 of the American spirit, but at the same time he
21 states that make no mistake about it, climate
22 change is no longer just a threat; it's a
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1 reality. And it's a reality that is calling into
2 question the legacy of the national parks for
3 future generations.
4 And so, in the face of climate change
5 how can we bring the experience of the nation's
6 park to its capital? And looking to the city we
7 can see that the D.C. Metro helps to connect the
8 capital's existing memorial landscape.
9 The distinctive architecture of the
10 D.C. Metro was designed to be more than just
11 infrastructure. It connected the public spaces
12 on the surface to the infrastructure below, and
13 in so doing it generates a new form of civic
14 pride. And it's in this spirit that we believe
15 that the D.C. Metro is the ideal space for a new
16 kind of memorial.
17 When we look at D.C. Metro ridership,
18 we see that the most used stations sit near the
19 memorial core, and because of this we have
20 selected the L'Enfant Plaza station as an ideal
21 site. It's closely sited near the memorial core,
22 it's high in ridership and it connects both the
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1 north, south and east-west lines, and so doing
2 draws from a large cross-section of the D.C.
3 population.
4 So how can L'Enfant Plaza station
5 become a platform within the existing memorial
6 landscape? When we compare the experiences of
7 visiting a memorial, a national park and riding
8 the D.C. Metro, we see different senses of place,
9 the Metro's experience through circulation and
10 movement and the memorial landscape through
11 destinations, and national parks combine these
12 experiences moving through the park to various
13 scenic destinations within. The juxtaposition of
14 national parks and the iconic architecture of the
15 D.C. Metro creates a new dynamic space within the
16 capital and transforms a place of passage into
17 one of pause.
18 The sights and sounds of the "American
19 Wild" create a new sense of place within the
20 L'Enfant Plaza station. This memorial can
21 provide a wide range of experiences. At its most
22 simple it inspires a sense of awe, a new memory
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1 or a break from routine. At its most ambitious
2 the memorial is a call to action, simultaneously
3 memorializing the past and the current national
4 parks while petitioning for their future
5 preservation.
6 A memorial viewer may be inspired to
7 visit a national park and learn about the
8 specific challenges it faces. This unique
9 experience then can bring a new appreciation for
10 and awareness of the American landscape. A
11 possible outcome of visiting a national park is a
12 newfound commitment to ensuring their existence
13 for the next 100 years. A memorial for the
14 future is no longer a steward of the past, but
15 rather a steward of the future.
16 MS. STEINER: So, how will we augment
17 the existing D.C. Metro? The primary medium of
18 the "American Wild" Memorial is projection. The
19 memorial is identified in orange here and
20 utilizes the passageways between the Green and
21 Blue Line within L'Enfant Plaza station. The
22 memorial is visible from both the upper and lower
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1 platforms, both fully experienced in the
2 passageway as to -- but fully experience in the
3 passageway as to optimize safety and not disrupt
4 D.C. Metro operations.
5 Projection mapping is a technology
6 used to turn objects such as the coffered ceiling
7 of the D.C. Metro into a display surface for
8 image projection. Specialized software can
9 interact with a projector to fit any desired
10 image onto a complex surface. Additionally,
11 multiple projectors can be mapped together to
12 create a unified and immersive image.
13 This diagram shows three projectors
14 atop a way-finding pylon. The vertical way-
15 finding pylons identified in orange serve as the
16 infrastructure for both the projector and sound
17 installations. Existing LCD advertising screens
18 and glass elevator shafts will feature additional
19 signage for "American Wild" and provide
20 information about how to learn more about the
21 parks. More specifically QR or quick response
22 codes link to existing national park web sites
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1 and phone applications.
2 So the question remains how will we
3 curate the memory of the national parks? The
4 National Park Service has a long tradition of
5 engaging artists. Recently a project called "One
6 Day in Yosemite" engaged 30 film makers spread
7 throughout the park gathering footage over 24
8 hours. Building upon traditional and newer
9 representation methods we propose that each park
10 will be designed by a selected fellow who will
11 reveal the subtleties of a day in the life of the
12 park.
13 The memorial is curated to last for 59
14 days; one day for each of the 59 national parks.
15 The parks we featured in order of their
16 establishment, thereby creating a timeline of the
17 100-year history of the National Park Service
18 that also advocates for their next 100 years.
19 The installation on the upper level of
20 the L'Enfant Plaza station can be seen from the
21 platform below. Commuters here look beyond the
22 platform to the sky of Sequoia National Park.
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1 The station is transformed from a space of
2 commuting to one of commemoration. Metro users
3 you see here rise to the station beneath of
4 formation of Arches National Park. Full scale
5 immersive video expands access to the national
6 park experience, raising awareness and creating
7 memories that outlast the installation itself.
8 Metro visitors here are seen transported to
9 Yosemite National Park.
10 We also think the Metro could probably
11 use some positive press.
12 (Laughter.)
13 MS. STEINER: So we end with a video
14 of what it might be like to experience a dynamic
15 and temporal memorial for the future.
16 (Whereupon, the video recording was
17 played.)
18 MS. STEINER: Thank you.
19 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you very much.
20 Very nice.
21 (Applause.)
22 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Commissioner May can
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1 hardly contain himself.
2 (Laughter.)
3 MEMBER DIXON: Mr. Chairman, my
4 question is how do you get people on the Metro.
5 I mean, we go there; we just spend the day,
6 right?
7 (Laughter.)
8 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: The second team is
9 "The Im(migrant)" team honoring the journey.
10 Sahar Coston-Hardy, Janelle Johnson, Michelle
11 Lin-Luse and Radhika Mohan are with us today.
12 "The Im(migrant)" proposal received an honorable
13 mention for community and the American heritage.
14 The jury was struck by the team's decision to
15 commemorate immigration and migration, a topic
16 that is universal and is deeply rooted in our
17 heritage. The proposal uses a bus route
18 replicating the immigrant's journey and providing
19 a mobile commemorative experience that links
20 local, national and even international stories
21 together.
22 Welcome.
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1 MS. MOHAN: Thank you. Good
2 afternoon. My name is Radhika Mohan and I'm
3 joined by my team mates Janelle Johnson, Sahar
4 Coston-Hardy and Michelle Lin-Luse. And before
5 we get started I just want to say thank you to
6 the National Capital Planning Commission, the
7 National Park Service and the Van Alen Institute
8 for this opportunity to explore "The
9 Im(migrant)."
10 "The Im(migrant)" illustrates the
11 elemental experience of movement, arrival and
12 making a new home by commemorating the very
13 journeys that friends, family and strangers have
14 taken through America's landscape in the pursuit
15 of opportunity and freedom.
16 Our memorial celebrates the parallel
17 stories of immigration to America and migration
18 to the southern states to the north.
19 Specifically, the memorial focuses on the stories
20 of families from the great migration and from the
21 immigration and from the Immigration and
22 Nationality Act of 1965 where the earlier quota
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1 system based on national origin was abolished and
2 a new policy based on reuniting immigrant
3 families was established. Both of these
4 significant acts contributed to the diversity of
5 Americans that we see today.
6 The physical framework of "The
7 Im(migrant)" uses the existing 2M Master Plan as
8 a foundation and expands it district-wide to
9 neighborhoods beyond the monumental core. The
10 expansion of memorials into neighborhoods of D.C.
11 creates opportunities for place-making in other
12 areas of significant historical importance while
13 also building investment in the public realm.
14 In addition, the interplay between
15 local sites and state named streets provides a
16 strong framework for "The Im(migrant)" mobile
17 memorial to explore national and local stories.
18 We tested this framework through a pilot project
19 located in Ward 7 along Minnesota Avenue
20 culminating in Randle Circle at the base of Fort
21 Dupont.
22 To create a district-wide framework we
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1 first looked at all the state street corridors
2 that aligned with major bus infrastructure. Next
3 we located candidate sites identified in the 2M
4 Master Plan, and particularly those that would
5 create one circular route. For our pilot project
6 we identified streets connecting to Randle Circle
7 which are Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Florida and
8 New York Avenues.
9 Stories of past, present and future
10 immigrants related to these states are layered
11 into the commemoration experience, respecting and
12 celebrating the fact that neighborhoods
13 inevitably change over time. Additionally, these
14 stories provide opportunities for community
15 engagement in the evolution of each memorial's
16 design.
17 After identifying this physical
18 framework we explored Minnesota Avenue and Randle
19 Circle as the pilot project using a variety of
20 techniques to share the stories collected such as
21 audio podcasts, social media, capacitive speakers
22 and place-making techniques. Along the selected
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1 bus routes capital improvements would accompany
2 temporary art installations and serve the dual
3 purposes of commemoration and unification.
4 "The Im(migrant)" Memorial also speaks
5 to a national conversation while also benefitting
6 the local community. For the visitor to D.C. a
7 bus ride through a selected neighborhood would
8 guide them through a unique portal to experience
9 through sound, sight and movement a slice of
10 migration history.
11 For a D.C. resident riding a segment
12 of the loop experiencing "The Im(migrant)"
13 Memorial would involve the ability and choice to
14 download different stories on different days,
15 perhaps while commuting. Passing by familiar
16 public spaces, one would see temporary
17 installations that highlight a particular
18 immigrant story or a collective migration
19 narrative.
20 With each loop an existing public
21 space would be designated to feature a place for
22 public programming, and in our pilot project
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1 Randle Circle becomes the designated open space.
2 A critical element of this project is
3 programming and engagement. Here we created a
4 sample programming calendar for "The Im(migrant)"
5 to take place over the course of a year. The
6 pink portion details events at the national
7 level, while the green portion shows programming
8 tailored to the local loop and neighborhood.
9 And now we would like to share the
10 experiential qualities that we've described
11 through this video.
12 (Whereupon, the video recording was
13 played.)
14 MS. MOHAN: Thank you.
15 (Applause.)
16 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you very much.
17 The next proposal is "VOICEOVER."
18 Anca Trandafirescu is presenting. "VOICEOVER"
19 received an honorable mention for futurism and
20 reinterpretation. The jury recognized this
21 team's work to imagine technologies that don't
22 quite exist in an approach that defines
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1 commemorative space through sound and
2 storytelling. This proposal provides a way to
3 add new perspectives to our existing memorial
4 landscapes.
5 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Hi, I'm Anca
6 Trandafirescu. I'm here alone, but the work that
7 you'll see is not just my work. It is the work
8 of me and three other partners, and they can't be
9 here because we're all involved in the
10 university. So, Professor Catania Kulper and I
11 are professors at the University of Michigan in
12 architecture, and Troy Hillman and Yurong Wu are
13 fabulous students that helped us on this project.
14 So they're in school today.
15 (Laughter.)
16 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: It is my distinct
17 pleasure to be here. I'm so honored to have the
18 chance to tell you about the project, about
19 something that I care so much about. Thanks for
20 inviting us.
21 Okay. And we had to come up with a
22 team name, so we called ourselves Talk Talk.
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1 You'll see why I guess in a minute. No one like
2 the name; I made it up.
3 (Laughter.)
4 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Okay. So let me
5 start here. We were drawn to this competition
6 because of this title and because of what we
7 imagined was a double and quirky kind of irony to
8 the memorials, but of the future memorials as
9 something that would be solicited, you know, we
10 would see memorials, but also a bigger question
11 implied by the pluralization of memorials, the
12 idea of memorialization being underlined in what
13 you were asking us to think about. So not just a
14 proposal, but how to change memorialization
15 itself.
16 And in truth, every piece of
17 architecture always plays this double game.
18 PARTICIPANT: (Off microphone.)
19 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Help me. Is that
20 better? Okay. I lecture every day and I never
21 get it right.
22 (Laughter.)
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1 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Okay. In truth,
2 every piece of architecture is always working on
3 this double scheme: one local and one global,
4 let's say, and maybe even every cultural product
5 does. So, let's say something like fiction, for
6 example, particularly an experimental piece of
7 fiction might be both something you read, but
8 also something that might stretch what we imagine
9 the boundaries of that territory would be.
10 So, we're interested -- I'm going
11 deeper into this maybe than I should, but it's
12 about how we pursued the project, which is on
13 both of these fronts, both as a proposal, but
14 also as an imagined idea about how
15 memorialization could also be addressed.
16 And so, some memorials are simply
17 beautiful and others I think are really powerful,
18 but some memorials really do change what we
19 imagine memorialization to be. And I think Maya
20 Lin's project was one that did this amazingly
21 beautifully in its difficult subject matter and
22 its critical positioning, and its formal
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1 minimalism and invention. And I could go on
2 forever about the project.
3 This was our initial submission board
4 to the entry to the competition, and basically
5 what we're trying to get across here with this
6 collage is an illusion to a memorial that could
7 potentially reflect on the power that we all have
8 to create our collective cultural heritage. It's
9 a memorial perhaps to a collective, perhaps to
10 the notion of history-making.
11 And then specific to this idea of
12 revisionism is something positive, not negative,
13 which we got directly from the speaking -- this
14 talk that Professor Savage gave at the
15 Smithsonian Institute a few years ago where he
16 says that, "If we accept that history and memory
17 are symbiotic, the corollary is that neither can
18 be fixed, neither can be held in place." And
19 this is such a radical thing for a historian to
20 say: "Revision becomes the norm rather than
21 something to be feared or deplored." And so,
22 this was very inspirational.
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1 What we wanted to propose was not a
2 monument per se, not a free-standing piece or a
3 stand-alone idea, but something we termed an
4 overlay. Rather than a free-standing monument,
5 our memorial is a system, a layer which
6 conceptually and physically sits alongside the
7 existing constructed memorial landscape in the
8 monumental core.
9 These are all the existing monuments.
10 We changed our color scheme to pink. That was
11 our color scheme. Sorry. And these are all the
12 memorials that we imagined our overlay system to
13 be a part of. And you'll notice that a lot of
14 them are in the monumental core and that cross
15 axes on the Mall. And we wanted to propose a
16 system that would overlay on it responding to
17 this quote by Musil where he's talking about how
18 so many things after awhile become invisible.
19 And so, we saw the potential of our project
20 reawakening and introducing the monuments that
21 exist to a whole new generation by adding another
22 layer to them.
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1 Our proposal comes in three parts:
2 collect, curate and disseminate. The collection
3 is the collection of an oral archive where
4 visitors would tell their stories about the
5 nation's memorials. Whether the stories are
6 large or small, historical or personal,
7 experienced or mythical, in English or not, all
8 people would be invited to record their memories
9 into a growing oral portrait.
10 The second part would be a curation.
11 This would mean that there would be guidelines
12 established by a committee, not by us as
13 designers, but some understanding of what kinds
14 of stories would be -- or at least the flavor of
15 the memorial would be kind of determined and not
16 just -- we didn't imagine that it would be a
17 free-for-all and that you could say anything you
18 wanted, but we were hoping that all types of
19 speech would be allowed, including potentially
20 things like hate speech and controversial things
21 as a full picture of who we are as a people.
22 There's a couple of images on the
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1 right, like the little booth that would travel
2 around collecting the oral archive, much like
3 StoryCorps does.
4 And then the last part is maybe the
5 part that gets the most attention, the
6 dissemination. We imagined that these stories
7 that would get collected and then honed through
8 the curatorial process would then get retold at
9 the sites of the memorials. And we designed a
10 pink flying roving pack of parrots that would
11 move around to the various sites and one by one
12 drop down and tell the stories in the original
13 voices of the storytellers themselves.
14 And you would -- and I could tell you
15 a little bit more about the pattern, but
16 essentially on a give day there would be five
17 sites, let's say, about that. And at each site
18 maybe six, five stories, not to fatigue the
19 public. But the parrots would disappear, they
20 would come back, they would rove slowly enough
21 that you could follow them on FLIT for a bit.
22 They're pink.
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1 Here they are at the Thomas Jefferson
2 Memorial. Here they are at the Boy Scouts of
3 America Memorial. These are five sites where we
4 did a kind day in the life of video showing them
5 roving around the city. Here they are at the Law
6 Enforcement Memorial. And all of these
7 representations are meant to evoke the kind of
8 layering up of story on top of fact on top of
9 fiction that makes u what we imagined our
10 memorial to be. Here at the Khalil Gibran
11 Memorial by the British Embassy.
12 And then there were various
13 programmatic components, like the charging
14 stations. These birds would need to charge
15 periodically. And we saw that also as
16 potentially being an event that would be -- we
17 thought they should use the Tidal Basin as their
18 site for charging and that could potentially also
19 be an event.
20 Why parrots? Good question. Parrots,
21 number one, because they are not native to the
22 United States, like most of us. Parrots because
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1 they talk. Parrots because they symbolize
2 storytelling and storytellers art, as Paul Carter
3 says here. And parrots, because though they seem
4 to be talking to us, are really vehicles for us
5 talking to us. And that's what memorials are,
6 too. So they're sort of symbolic in that way and
7 something that we just loved. And just loved
8 that none of them every existed in the U.S. They
9 came here. It's also kind of a commentary on
10 colonization.
11 Here's what we thought they could look
12 like. I wanted a hotter pink. My team wanted to
13 be more reserved and elegant. I gave in. I
14 think they were right.
15 Why vocalic? Why make it with the
16 speaking voice? Because so much of urban design
17 and so much of memorial-making is visual, and we
18 thought that we could command a different kind of
19 space through the voice, and we could make an
20 intimacy through that kind of connection, and we
21 could make a presence that's different than just
22 seeing something.
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1 They're not meant to look frightening.
2 (Laughter.)
3 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: They're not
4 attacking. But we had a lot of discussions on
5 the team about whether they should flap their
6 wings or whether they should be more mechanical.
7 And then we ended up thinking more mechanical.
8 Okay. Why stories? This is one
9 potentially the most obvious. Stories because
10 they are the primary currency of history and
11 that's how we create the stories of ourselves.
12 Stories also because they're quirky and they're
13 full of all the inflections of people's lives and
14 they're messy and we thought that could add a
15 really interesting and beautiful layer to the
16 memorials.
17 And lastly, the subject we had the
18 most conversation about, the curation, like we
19 should it be curated? We thought it absolutely
20 needed to be curated because it is still a
21 message about who we are that we want to have
22 some level of control over. But we had a lot of
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1 conversations about how the scheme of curation
2 could change and how much the accent of a voice
3 potentially could be the way. Like one of the
4 days where all of the sites are visited could
5 just be farm accents. Like the curation would
6 take its cues from the collection that we had
7 made.
8 This again is a kind of idea of five
9 sites a day in the life of the birds. And those
10 are the five original sites that I showed before
11 in the images. And what I really want to
12 emphasize here, too -- and we have a short video
13 to show showing the birds moving around. They
14 rove around in this small pack. But one of the
15 things about these sites are they're not neutral.
16 So we thought about how does somebody
17 today have something to say through using these
18 memorials? So at the time when we were doing
19 this work there was a lot of discussion about
20 police actions over the summer. And so the
21 National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial might
22 become a place where you might have something
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1 very contemporary to say even though you're
2 laying onto something that has existed for a long
3 time.
4 And lastly, we pitched this idea of --
5 we were asked; and we respectfully declined to do
6 it quite the way we were asked to do it, to phase
7 the project. Because it's not allowed, because
8 there's no drones allowed. They're not drones.
9 My parrots are not drones. But because that's
10 not permitted in D.C. right now, there were
11 questions about how would you implement would
12 this? How could you go about it? And could you
13 make some birds that didn't fly; that stood
14 still, for example, or stood in trees? And we
15 kept thinking that if we did that, people would
16 just be satisfied with that and wouldn't ever go
17 on to what we really wanted to see, which is
18 flying birds.
19 So we made this other kind of phasing
20 idea where we would spend 5 or 10 years selling
21 these kites at a very inexpensive price, getting
22 the public primed to see something, to look up
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1 for something pink, to raise money, to raise
2 awareness and to eventually get to actually
3 flying birds rather than some other stand-in that
4 we thought might be just too comfortable.
5 So here's where I want to end. The
6 future. So if design is always a means to
7 envisioning a future scenario, it can
8 simultaneously offer a critical alternative to an
9 existing normality. "VOICEOVER," our project
10 then is to be taken as an architectural
11 proposition that is a critical project on the
12 basis that it offers several points of contented
13 difference with present day memorial practices
14 and policies.
15 And I want to talk about those with
16 you because you're the people who can actually
17 make those kinds of changes. So first of all,
18 "VOICEOVER" is a memorial that is dependent upon
19 public's input and it is in fact improved through
20 greater participation. So where memorialization
21 today is single-issue and largely representative
22 of the interests of one person and usually -- or
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1 a well-funded kind of group of people that have a
2 similar idea, "VOICEOVER" offers a world where a
3 bottom-up strategy representative of a large
4 multilayered and messy amalgamation can have both
5 access and engagement.
6 "VOICEOVER" is lightweight and
7 ephemeral and temporary, so where in past
8 memorials thickness and heaviness and permanence
9 were prime, this technology will run out. And I
10 think we're saying that's not a bad thing, that
11 maybe the Commission would be willing to embrace
12 technologies that will run out and then another
13 technology with another generation -- we did
14 imagine that the Library of Congress would
15 potentially permanently house the oral archive,
16 but maybe the rest of it goes away.
17 "VOICEOVER" is adaptable and
18 unpredictable. It can keep up with the speed at
19 which we receive information and at the same time
20 go to places we don't know yet. Perhaps that
21 could be embraced, too.
22 "VOICEOVER" is joyful. Whereas some
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1 stories told might be quite somber,
2 memorialization tends not to deal in the currency
3 of joy, but we thought that we are engaging
4 people through the language of delight so that
5 they may be open to dialogues to which they don't
6 normally participate and to opinions which they
7 do not hold. We believe tolerance may actually
8 have a color: pink.
9 And then the two most important to me.
10 "VOICEOVER" exists on the Mall. Our generation
11 right now cannot build on the Mall, so we were
12 really trying to find a way to physically occupy
13 the Mall. It's really important to this
14 generation if you want them involved in what our
15 legacy is to let them be there physically.
16 And at the risk of offending everyone
17 in the room, my last point is maybe
18 implementation isn't that important when you hear
19 from people like me. So, this is an experimental
20 project, and implementation was not on the table
21 so much for us because you all are really good at
22 it. So maybe what could be allowed more is some
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1 little wilder ideas that -- I"m an architect for
2 a long time. It's implementable. It can happen.
3 Implementation is easy. I don't mean that it's
4 easy. I mean that it's easy in comparison to the
5 real task that is before you, which is who are we
6 and how do we put that in a memory? Thanks.
7 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you very much.
8 (Applause.)
9 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Oh, my video.
10 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Yes.
11 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: Yes? Okay. I
12 wanted to end dramatically, but now -- okay. So
13 we made this cute video to show a day in the
14 life. You can play it.
15 (Whereupon, the video recording was
16 played.)
17 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: I don't think it
18 needs much explanation of the birds flying.
19 (Whereupon, the video recording
20 continues to be played.)
21 MS. TRANDAFIRESCU: So the inter-
22 splicing is also meant to give some ideas about
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1 again how active -- and at times protests might
2 happen through these stories or how it could
3 activate through contemporary issues.
4 (Whereupon, the video recording
5 continues to be played.)
6 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: That's very
7 extraordinary. Thank you very much. That's
8 extraordinary.
9 (Applause.)
10 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: And coming forward
11 is the winner. We are pleased to have Erik
12 Jensen and Rebecca Sunter with the "Climate
13 Chronograph" proposal. I'm pleased to announce
14 that they "Climate Chronograph" is the
15 competition winner. The jury found that this
16 proposal was as powerful example of a worldwide
17 issue expressed tangibly at a personal level. It
18 explores the present and the future rather than
19 the past. It is a memorial deliberately designed
20 to change, decay and evolve over time. It also
21 allows everyday activities to coexist with the
22 commemorative experience.
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1 So, Erik and Rebecca, welcome.
2 MS. SUNTER: Thank you for having us
3 both and for the call in general. It was just a
4 real honor to be able to participate in the
5 visioning of memorials for and of the future. So
6 thank you for the opportunity.
7 So in starting to look at "Climate
8 Chronograph," we'd like to peer into another time
9 and place altogether. This beautiful piece of
10 architecture is called the Nilometer from Ancient
11 Egypt. It measured the water levels of the Nile
12 River. This central column was notched with
13 levels that the water could be at measured in
14 cubits, which was the unit they used. And as you
15 can see, just a few cubits would be the
16 difference between suffering, happiness, security
17 or complete disaster.
18 Now, this was a sacred place, a
19 temple, as well as just a pure measurement tool
20 and it was really reserved for the priestly
21 classes to be the readers of the yearly seasonal
22 water levels because it would show the state's
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1 agricultural fate and really the state security
2 for the immediate future.
3 Now, this went on for about 5,000
4 years, we believe, until the Aswan Dam was put in
5 at Lake Nasser in the Nile River. When they --
6 the function of society being uncertain and being
7 at the whim of the skies was no longer desirable,
8 they chose stability, security and control, like
9 most of the world has in relying in human
10 engineering.
11 Now, as increased unpredictability in
12 weather patterning, some call climate change, is
13 upon us and is challenging our cities and our
14 rural areas increasingly affecting marginalized
15 populations, even though disruption hits
16 indiscriminately, often recovery is
17 disproportionate and places like here in New
18 Orleans with Katrina or here in New York City
19 with Superstorm Sandy, these events are events
20 and they're in major metropolises and they gain a
21 lot of press coverage and we see them often and
22 communities that are devastated receive fair
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1 amounts of federal aid.
2 Here we're starting to see the events
3 being less episodic and more slow moving. And
4 this is Tangier Island, which is just down the
5 Potomac from where we sit today. And here
6 people's back yards are getting soggier and
7 soggier. It's not these dramatic episodic events
8 and it's not in these major metropolitan areas,
9 but is in more and more people's front and back
10 doors.
11 And moving up the Potomac a bit we
12 find ourselves at the Tidal Basin. And we see
13 that the site that we have chosen for "Climate
14 Chronograph" about a hundred years ago plus was
15 actually just river, and that's because when we
16 were trying to build the fledgling nation's
17 capital we needed to invest in a very ingenious
18 engineered system of control. And to do so we
19 made West and East Potomac Parks in order to
20 contain the Tidal Basin, which is the keystone of
21 flood control for the rest of Metropolitan D.C.
22 Now, with sea level rise we see that
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1 that keystone itself is experiencing flooding.
2 This is what two feet of sea level rise looks
3 like according to Climate Central. Here we see
4 what four feet would be at the site as well as
5 the greater region.
6 Now, this was in 1985 when all of East
7 Potomac Park nearly was underwater. So flooding
8 is not new to the site, but we're seeing that
9 predictions are saying that this flooding that
10 we've been seeing historically will just be
11 amplified in coming times and decades.
12 Now, here we look at the perimeter of
13 what East Potomac Park is looking like and we're
14 seeing major infrastructural failures: wall
15 collapse, washout, subsidence, open joints. And
16 the Jefferson Memorial, which is at the northern
17 tip of East Potomac Park, just recently
18 underwent, as most of us are probably familiar, a
19 $16 million retrofit of the seawall, which was
20 for a quarter of a mile length.
21 Now, the Jefferson Memorial was
22 subsiding at a rate of eight inches per year and
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1 that 16 million has secured the plaza itself, but
2 we heard from a news reporter this morning that
3 he was out there last week with his cameraman and
4 even just the adjacent sidewalks were completely
5 underwater.
6 So, what the national parks and the
7 Greater D.C. Area is facing is really a
8 distillation of, what as I think "American Wild"
9 spoke to earlier, this dilemma of American
10 legacy. Now, National Park Service is our
11 steward for a lot of our wild and a lot of our
12 urban environments and we don't -- there's an
13 open question as to what to do with them
14 financially, politically, design-wise. For an
15 institution whose mission is specifically and
16 expressly about non-intervention, suddenly we're
17 finding ourselves doing very active stewardship
18 to protect the places that we have come to be
19 near and dear to our hearts.
20 So this open question remains. And we
21 can see things like this as failure, which they
22 are of the engineering, but it's about this
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1 control. And if we remember the Nilometer, there
2 was a time in history when our relationship with
3 the environment worked with that uncertainty more
4 than we do today.
5 And when we went to the site, what we
6 saw was something a little bit more poetic. It's
7 a different frame for that failure. And it was a
8 water line expressing itself, much like when you
9 go beach combing and the most rich place to find
10 the sea shells, this collection of detritus of
11 where the highest water line is coming up. So,
12 too, this is already happening at Hains Point in
13 the lawn itself, and it's really throughout the
14 entire perimeter of the park. And it can be seen
15 as failure or it could be seen as nature writing
16 something and trying to tell us something new
17 about the site.
18 An emergent wetland is already coming
19 up. This is arrow arum, which is an indicator
20 species for wetland in the Chesapeake Bay. And
21 this is a mussel, which shows that these puddles
22 are actually tide pools already happening on the
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1 site.
2 And so, our proposal is about
3 embracing that indeterminacy once again that
4 uncertainty in just a little part of a keystone
5 of a very controlled piece of landscape.
6 MR. JENSEN: All right. And so, as we
7 look at the proposal we begin with Hains Point as
8 it exists today. It's just an open field
9 essentially. Beautiful views all around it.
10 It's kind of this pastoral reprieve, if you will,
11 from the intensity and hustle and bustle in the
12 remainder of the National Mall.
13 Our proposal is intentionally minimal.
14 We begin by creating a sloped plane to the
15 water's edge, which is a balanced cut and fill,
16 the high side being back from the point and the
17 low being at its apex, that's punctured so water
18 can come through. Upon that sloped plane we
19 propose a bosk of cherry trees, and that bosk of
20 cherry trees is planted like any other, a rather
21 simple move.
22 The poetry of the site begins to
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1 expose itself as nature writes its own record in
2 the land. So as projected by many scientists,
3 sea level rises. Here's a foot. A foot is four
4 rows of trees. And so over time a foot becomes
5 two feet, two feet, three, four until maybe just
6 a few rows of trees are left.
7 And so, what we're left with is this
8 ever-changing, ever-dynamic site. One simple
9 gesture in the land creates kind of an infinite
10 story in which a global narrative is played out
11 over the scale of inches and feet on site.
12 And here we see that the site becomes
13 a place for contemplation and discussion. Like
14 any memorial, there will be an interpretive sign,
15 but there are many more aspects to it.
16 So we'll begin with the sign, but we
17 can imagine what's going under the surface of the
18 water. Wetland, like we've seen, is emergent and
19 successionary and will take root in the flooded
20 area. So it's not just a story of death of these
21 trees. It's a story of an emergent new
22 ecosystem, the sort of thing that the National
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1 Park Service I think knows is happening and is
2 beginning to articulate in other national parks,
3 and probably something that we should consider as
4 important to our own urban areas and urban parks.
5 At the water's edge we get a living
6 and didactic landscape that a child can see
7 directly this is climate change, this is sea
8 level rise, this is my relationship to it and
9 take that home. You can imagine an eighth grader
10 coming for their eighth grade trip like I took to
11 Washington, D.C. And you come back maybe as an
12 adult and you could see 20 years later this is an
13 entirely new landscape. Someone living in the
14 Midwest with no coastal access all of a sudden
15 sees this struggle that all of us who live along
16 the coast are confronting.
17 So, here we have a section of the
18 site. And I'll just jump into the enlargements.
19 Fundamentally our solution to the crumbling wall
20 is a minimal one. We want to have a living dike
21 per the NPS plan and just go with what has
22 already been established as the solution for the
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1 wall. So that would be a simple riprap solution.
2 We imagine the landscape is as simple as DG,
3 which is -- a stabilized DG, which used elsewhere
4 on the Mall, and that the interventions are using
5 the existing design language on the site. The
6 railing there perhaps could be more sculptural,
7 but it's there and we want to maintain it because
8 we think that this minimalism in important as a
9 response.
10 And then here we're backing through
11 the orchard, which you can imagine would have a
12 sculptural characteristic to it from younger
13 trees to older trees as the waters rise until we
14 hit this didactic edge. And that moves back into
15 what's essentially an orchard, an open field
16 where people can gather and talk and play,
17 maintaining that community characteristic. And
18 we finish at this open edge.
19 And so, what we have is at once this
20 sculptural and poignant pastoral meditation and
21 at the other an open community park, a park that
22 exists in the same way that Hains Point does
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1 today. And so, we have a hybrid memorial
2 landscape in which the community can come and can
3 enjoy the day to day activities that they love to
4 do at Hains Point, enjoy the pastoral reprieve,
5 but they can also think about this larger idea.
6 And so, fishing is now augmented with the painter
7 who's visiting and wants to draw the landscape.
8 The bicyclist is augmented by the child sitting
9 and thinking.
10 And so, we conceive of this memorial
11 as both a built memorial and an inquiry on
12 action. And the key points that we want to leave
13 you with is that this is a memorial that is slow.
14 It unfolds in an inter-generational way. It's
15 about larger human trends than the now and the
16 immediate. It's about parents and children and
17 their grandchildren and this struggle that we are
18 realizing we are about to face.
19 It's about generating inclusivity and
20 affordability through restraint. In our report
21 you'll find a cost estimate which is rather
22 modest as memorials go. We tried to get the
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1 price up as high as we could.
2 (Laughter.)
3 MR. JENSEN: We only came out to just
4 over $2 million, which we feel like is a very
5 modest expense for any memorial on the Mall, and
6 we feel that the modesty in the cost can help
7 generate an preserve the community's ability to
8 see it as an open -- kind of their own field as
9 well as the nation's, that it's a public index of
10 an indeterminate vulnerability. At the bottom,
11 maybe it's today this grove and moving forward
12 there's many myriad paths that may occur here.
13 Maybe no trees die. That would be
14 fine with us. We would love to just see
15 Washington, D.C. add a beautiful bosk of cherry
16 trees. Maybe that's enough to compel action, or
17 maybe nothing will happen. Maybe a few rows die
18 and we stop there. Maybe all of them go and it
19 becomes this living mark that at this moment in
20 time we saw what was coming, we made a gesture
21 and we acknowledged it.
22 And I think the takeaway is that this
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1 is a living memorial and it's authored by nature.
2 It is something that in contrast to the static
3 and granitic is a way in which we're inverting a
4 relationship with nature and we're allowing
5 nature to articulate on the scale of inches this
6 indeterminate and sometimes scary future. We're
7 bringing legibility to a complex and undoubtedly
8 challenging coming epoch.
9 And so, in the distant future perhaps
10 this would be the scene at Hains Point if the
11 projections hold true. And that's where we'll
12 close. Thank you.
13 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you very much.
14 (Applause.)
15 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you. This has
16 been an extraordinary competition and lots of
17 creativity for all of our design teams.
18 Congratulations to you for being the winners.
19 Yes, sir?
20 MEMBER DIXON: I guess I've been
21 around for quite awhile, and one of the things
22 that I find controversial often are memorials.
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1 And in fact, some of them they're our toughest
2 mission, getting them settled and how they go.
3 But I wanted to as a senior colonel
4 speak to a junior active colonel, Michael, Mike,
5 about how symbolic it is that you make this
6 presentation, because I have voted, painfully
7 often, against a lot of memorials that we have
8 recommended for our city, our nation, because I
9 thought they were celebrations of too much war.
10 Because we talk about war, and it's
11 the reason that may be the case is because my
12 political head says there's a great constituency
13 list. If you want get a memorial on a war, you
14 got an easy mail-out to get people to say yes,
15 it's a great idea. To get a constituency to
16 support some of these other issues that we see
17 today will be more complicated, and I hope we can
18 get them going.
19 I also want to say that I didn't
20 really focus at first that there was a winner had
21 been -- I think they're all winners. I think
22 that there's -- certainly would be hope that we
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1 can get them all going. I want some parrots in
2 Anacostia, too.
3 (Laughter.)
4 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Pink parrots.
5 MEMBER DIXON: Now, that would be
6 interesting.
7 (Laughter.)
8 MEMBER DIXON: And I also was going to
9 say that I've been blessed to be chosen by the
10 mayor to serve on a transition group. We've been
11 working for almost four months now to look at the
12 Anacostia Museum and how its history or how its
13 future exists with a new museum on the Mall. We
14 have two different missions. One is a historical
15 museum on the Mall, which is so important, and
16 also which has to do with communities and the
17 history of communities. And I'm not sure how we
18 can get connections to your projects, but a lot
19 of the things you're talking about are things
20 we're talking about for the Anacostia Museum, not
21 just about Anacostia, but our community as a
22 whole and how we have survived and the migration
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1 into our community, now gentrification into our
2 community, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
3 So, I thank you very much for your --
4 that's some insights I might try to carry back to
5 them, and we have some many versions of these
6 east of the river if we can funding. Thank you
7 all very much. I think it's just great. Thank
8 you.
9 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you, Mr.
10 Dixon.
11 I would note that David van der Leer,
12 who's with the Van Alen Institute has been our
13 long-time partner, who's here.
14 And if you'd like to say any parting
15 words or -- love to -- you've been with us for a
16 long time.
17 MR. VAN DER LEER: Thank you having
18 me, Chairman and Commissioners. And, Marcel,
19 thank you for the initial invitation.
20 It has been a pleasure to work on this
21 process, and I must say it's fascinating to see
22 you sit here, because we've been in this room a
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1 lot in the past months.
2 (Laughter.)
3 MR. VAN DER LEER: And this was the
4 jury's room also. So Marcel is always in his
5 right seat, of course.
6 (Laughter.)
7 MR. VAN DER LEER: But other than
8 that, there's all new faces. So it's nice to see
9 how it's being used in a day to day session also.
10 I would like to thank all the team
11 members. They've done fantastic work over the
12 past months. These processes are always a lot of
13 work, very involved.
14 And to come back to the jury, whenever
15 we would meet here, the jury would send things
16 home and say like, well, have you thought about
17 this or have you thought about that? So this is
18 how the proposals shape up.
19 It was a fascinating process. Thank
20 you all. I look forward to seeing all of you
21 tonight for drinks, but I hope you will be able
22 to make it for drinks also. And I would like to
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1 thank again NCPC and NPS for the very nice
2 collaboration. Thank you.
3 CHAIRMAN BRYANT: Thank you very much.
4 And again, if you can join us tonight at 7:00 at
5 the Kennedy Center, we'd love to have you.
6 Thank you. We've had a terrific day.
7 It was a light agenda, but we finished with a lot
8 of fun. So thank you very much, and we are
9 adjourned.
10 (Whereupon, the above-referred to
11 matter went off the record at 3:13 p.m.)
12
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This is to certify that the foregoing transcript
In the matter of: Open Session
Before: National Capital Planning Commission
Date: 09-08-16
Place: Washington, DC
was duly recorded and accurately transcribed under my direction; further, that said transcript is a true and accurate record of the proceedings.
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