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MEMORIES ‘A PARK for the PEOPLE’ Wythenshawe Park MEMORIES ‘A PARK FOR THE PEOPLE’ Wythenshawe Park In 1926 Peter Tatton sold Wythenshawe Hall and its Park to Ernest and Sheena Simon, later Lord and Lady Simon. They presented it as a gift to the City, to be kept as an open space for the people of Wythenshawe. It is much loved, especially by local residents. Many have a relationship with the Park that goes back to childhood and they, in turn, have taken their own children and grandchildren there. During Spring 2008 local people were invited to share their memories of the Hall and Park in a special exhibition, „A Park for the People‟. Over 40 people contributed, aged between 11 and 91. Thank you to everyone for sharing their memories Thank you also to Wythenshawe FM and Alex Parker-Brown for the oral history recordings and Parkway Green Housing Trust for funding their transcription CONTRIBUTORS 1 Ann Hilary Lloyd 2 Rhona Webster 3 Christine McCarthy 4 Jane Clinton 5 Arthur Buxton 6 Julie Gilkes 7 Brenda Lasch 8 Graham Sant 9 Roy S Ashworth 10 Mary Thomas 11 Hilda Nicholls 12 Anita Royle 13 Irene Davies 14 Susan Parker 15 Joseph Hawkland 16 Madeline 17 Trish Towe 18 Hazel Garside 19 Iris Commons 20 Donna Cunneen 21 Joe Hogan 22 John Steedman 23 Jean Belluz 24 Ron Green 25 Maureen Donnelly 26 Isabel Broughton 27 Philippa Lloyd 28 Colin Evans 29 Dawn Warriner 30 Julie Rogers 31 Arthur Buckley 32 Joan Theakston 33 Sarah Clements 34 Mary Clements 35 Susan Horton 36 Lucas Horton 37 Gavin Evans 38 Doris North (Interview by the NW Sound Archive) SELECTION OF IMAGES 1 Ann Hilary Lloyd INTERVIEW AT WYTHENSHAWE FM, FEBRUARY 2008 So Hilary what are your favourite memories of Wythenshawe Park and Wythenshawe Hall? My favourite memories are of riding from Piper Hill Riding School, round the Park. When you had worked there for a couple of years you actually got to take rides out and it was wonderful. I remember taking a ride out once and we had just got down [?] Road, crossed over into the Park and there was a little grey pony and it put its head down and the girl didn‟t let go of the reins and off she went, plop. Broke all her fingers and she wouldn‟t get back on. So I had to walk back with her, leading her horse and mine and all the ride as well, back to the riding school. And there was a doctor‟s across the road. Took her into the doctors and never saw her again. I think it put her off actually. But we used to love riding round the park. All the way round, it used to take an hour and then back. That was the best time of my life that. I was about 11. Because I was born in Chorlton but I didn‟t pass my 11 plus and my father who was a bit of a snob didn‟t want me to go to Chorlton Park School so I came to Newall Green and I didn‟t know anything about Wythenshawe, but on the bus I saw the riding school. So I used to go every day after school, every weekend, all weekend. It was wonderful. And the park was lovely then, although there were lots of places you couldn‟t go. You weren‟t allowed on the grass. There were all these signs „Keep off the grass‟. Loads of park wardens; what did they call them then? They weren‟t park wardens. Parkies, who were very, very strict. You would practically get shot if you went on the grass but it was lovely. Then later on I worked in the park in the Horticultural Centre selling the plants, that was nice, I enjoyed that. So that‟s my memory of the park. How many horses were there? I think there was probably 10 or 12, something like that. We used to take them down Ford Lane in the summer and turn them out there and then go back and bring them back. We used to have gymkhanas on Shaftesbury Avenue and we had lots of rosettes; we won lots of prizes and things. We used to practice like mad in the field; it was great. Did you help to groom the horses? Yes we used to muck out, groom, clean the tack, teach the kiddie-winkies in the paddock how to ride and then eventually when you had done all that you got to take rides out and that was such…that was your real gold star that. Means you didn‟t have to pay anything for it. It was great, good fun. Did you have all the equipment like hard hats and everything? No, there was no healthy and safety things then. No, if you fell off you just risked it, you know. We all had jodhpurs that were very wide and if it was a bit windy you tended to get a touch of the Mary Poppins with them because they stuck out like mad those jodhpurs. But we didn‟t wear hard hats, no. Some did, but it wasn‟t compulsory then. Was it in all weathers or only fine? No, we were there all weathers. The yard used to flood. We used to have to lie down and scoop all the straw out of the drains to try and get the water out of the stables. We were there in all weathers. Right throughout the year, it was wonderful. Even on Christmas day we used to go down. The horses were all in, in the winter. They still had to be fed and mucked out and cuddled and kissed and loved and talked to. Plenty of sugar lumps? Yes it was great, really good. They still have riding in the park now. The stables are in the park now and you can book and have a ride. They ride round the same track that we did which is lovely really to keep that going. [Work in the Horticultural Centre and Sherry?] How about the Horticultural Centre? Yes, I started off as a volunteer there. I used to have a lady living with me who was disabled, so I couldn‟t go out to work every day. I started off as a volunteer and then when the management changed, they said I couldn‟t volunteer, I had to be paid for it. They insisted I got paid for it. I said I didn‟t want paying but eventually they forced me to have this wage every week, which was very nice. Of course originally you weren‟t allowed in the Horticultural Centre because they used to grow all the plants there for the Town Hall and the Free Trade Hall and places like that; and they were really good quality. So the gates were always shut and everybody was dying to go in and have a root and then eventually, not that long ago really, probably in the 1990s they opened it up to the public so you could go in and buy their excess plants that they didn‟t need. And it was very popular. We had our regular customers, it was great, really nice and sometimes Sherry used to come in with me. She used to sit there in her wheelchair. It was nice, had little regulars and the gardens were beautiful; it was really nice. We used to watch the ducks and the moorhens from the pond. It was nice seeing the seasons coming and going, you know, in the spring we used to have sweetpeas growing up the fence and it was really nice, very pleasant. I don‟t work there now. So you are involved with Park Watch, what is that about? Wythenshawe‟s Parks watch. That is for all the Wythenshawe parks and we do need more members. We meet once a month. It is just to raise money to pay for new benches. And everything that goes on in the park basically comes through grants from here, there and everywhere and you are talking about a lot of money really. We are hoping to get an older person‟s playground in the park. That sounds fun. For over 50s, why not? We always go on the swings when there is no one looking. We are all kids at heart anyway. Yeah, so it would be nice to get an older person‟s playground in, so we are hoping to do that. But we have to raise the money. So that is very satisfying really to have an idea and then actually see it happen. It‟s great. I enjoy that. Nan Nook Woods? Yes Nan Nook Woods is a site of…it is a very important site isn‟t it? It has been long neglected and at the moment they are clearing out all the drains, the natural waterways. So we are hoping that will encourage more birds into it. Because you can‟t go into Nan Nook Woods in the summer because it is full of giant man eating midges! Whereabouts is Nan Nook Woods? It just runs along from the athletics track, down along Wythenshawe Road. It is quite a big wood actually. I know where you mean. A very ancient wood and it has got lots of bluebells in it and we are hoping to put lots of bird boxes up and things like that. And it is a bit of a mess at the moment because they are still digging out the trenches you know, the waterways.
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