1 Before the New York State Senate Majority Coalition Joint Task Force on Heroin and Opioid Addiction 2
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1 BEFORE THE NEW YORK STATE SENATE MAJORITY COALITION JOINT TASK FORCE ON HEROIN AND OPIOID ADDICTION 2 ------------------------------------------------------ 3 PUBLIC FORUM: SUFFOLK COUNTY 4 PANEL DISCUSSION ON LONG ISLAND'S HEROIN EPIDEMIC 5 ------------------------------------------------------ 6 Suffolk County Community College 7 Brentwood Campus Van Nostrand Theater 8 1001 Crooked Hill Road Brentwood, New York 11717 9 April 8, 2014 10 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. 11 PRESENT: 12 Senator Philip M. Boyle, Task Force Chairman 13 Chairman of the Senate Committee on Alcoholism and Drug Abuse. 14 15 Senator Jack Martins, Forum Moderator 16 Senator John J. Flanagan 17 Senator Kemp Hannon 18 Senator Carl L. Marcellino 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2 1 LIFE-STORY SPEAKERS, POST-PANELIST INTRODUCTION: 2 Shanna (no last name given) Previous user of illegal drugs 3 Arthur & Denise Murr 4 Parent of child who had fatal overdose Garden City - Compassionate Friends 5 Jason (no last name given) 6 Previous user of illegal drugs 7 8 ---oOo--- 9 PARTICIPATING PANELISTS: 10 Kathy Brown 11 Director of Chemical Dependence, Catholic Charities 12 Richard Buckman President, Long Island Recovery Association 13 Dr. Paul Casciano 14 Superintendent of Schools William Floyd School District 15 Vincent DeMarco 16 Sheriff, Suffolk County 17 Dr. James Dolan Director of Mental Health, Chemical Dependency 18 and Developmental Disability Services for Nassau County 19 Dr. Frank Dowling Psychiatrist, Stony Brook University 20 Robert Ewald 21 Chief, Narcotics Bureau Suffolk County District Attorney's Office 22 Rene Feitcher 23 Assistant District Attorney Nassau County District Attorney's Office 24 Chair, NC Heroin Task Force 25 3 1 PARTICIPATING PANELISTS (Continued): 2 Kym Laube 3 Executive Director, HUGS President, Quality Consortium of Suffolk County 4 Steve Margolies 5 Vice President and Medical Director New York Region of Phoenix House 6 Arthur & Denise Murr 7 Parent of child who had fatal overdose Garden City - Compassionate Friends 8 Judith Raimondi 9 President & Founder, Lindy Cares 10 Dr. Jeffrey Reynolds Executive Director, LICADD 11 Dr. Michael F. Ring 12 Superintendent of Schools, Rocky Point School District 13 Anthony Rizzuto Provider Relations Representative for 14 Nassau & Suffolk at Seafield Center 15 John M. Venza Vice President, Adolescent Services 16 Outreach Development Corporation 17 Christopher R. Wilkins MHA Founder & President, Emeritus Loyola Recovery 18 Foundation, and, Consultant to Alkermes 19 Tom Willdigg President, Nassau County Detectives Association 20 21 ---oOo--- 22 QUESTIONS & ANSWERS, AND STATEMENTS: 23 MORNING PORTION PAGE 98 24 AFTERNOON PORTION PAGE 175 25 ---oOo--- 4 1 "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 2 United States of America and to the republic for 3 which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, 4 with liberty and justice for all. 5 SHANNA [ph.]: Hi, I'm Shanna [ph.], and this 6 is my story. 7 I'm 26 years old and come from a great 8 family. My parents are happily married, and I have 9 three sisters. I grew up with tons of love and no 10 trauma. 11 I always like to say that in my story because 12 this disease does not discriminate. 13 I struggled in school because of having ADHD. 14 My mom did not want to put me on medication, but 15 I quickly self-medicated. I was drinking, and 16 smoking marijuana, almost every day on the weekends. 17 I didn't see a problem with it. It was just weed 18 and alcohol. 19 I dropped out of high school in 20 eleventh grade and went to beauty school. 21 I continued to drink and smoke, and I didn't see a 22 problem with it. 23 People would tell me that I drank too much. 24 Every time I drank, it was to black out or 25 pass out, but, I still didn't see a problem. 5 1 I met a boyfriend at 18. He was using 2 pain killers. I tried them and it was love at first 3 try. I quickly became addicted. My body needed it 4 and I couldn't live without it. I was addicted from 5 that first time. 6 I ran out of money quickly, and he turned me 7 on to heroin because it was cheaper and easier to 8 get. 9 My parents came to me and told me I needed to 10 go away and get help. 11 That was my first experience with the detox. 12 The detox, they told me that I was able to go 13 to inpatient, but only for two weeks, because that's 14 all my insurance would cover. It just wasn't 15 enough. I got out and I started using right away. 16 I met another guy, going to the rooms of 17 Narcotics Anonymous, and at that point, I thought 18 that maybe I wanted to change, and maybe I wanted to 19 do the right thing, but, a part of me just still 20 didn't have enough treatment in me, didn't have 21 enough time away from the drug. And, he started 22 using, and, quickly, I just followed down that same 23 path again. 24 He was an IV user, and I quickly realized how 25 much more high you can get if you injected it 6 1 instead of sniffing it; and that's what happened. 2 My parents, you know, begged me to stop, and 3 begged me to get into treatment. 4 And a couple of times I said yes, and I would 5 go, but, my insurance would run out, and I'd have to 6 leave. Or, they've told me that I couldn't get in, 7 'cause I had to go to outpatient and fail first. 8 And, definitely, outpatient at that point was 9 not an option for me. I needed help. I needed to 10 be away, and I needed to be away for a long time. 11 I would just continue to go back out and 12 I continued to use, and, eventually, the money ran 13 out. My parents couldn't have me live in the house 14 anymore. 15 Like I said, I have three sisters that I was 16 destroying. They would watch me walk around like a 17 zombie. 18 And, I went and stayed in my car, with my 19 boyfriend. And, we didn't have anymore money, so we 20 decided to rob someone. 21 This is not something that I would ever have 22 done if I wasn't addicted to heroin and so sick, 23 that I just didn't know how else to get what 24 I needed. 25 I had gotten arrested. That was on 7 1 October 4, 2010. And, I was sent to Nassau County 2 Jail. 3 I was arraigned for $120,000, and now I was 4 sitting in a jail cell, and didn't know how my life 5 had gotten to where it was, and how I was ever gonna 6 come out of where I was. 7 On October 5, 2010, I got called down in 8 Nassau County Jail, and I was told that my boyfriend 9 had committed suicide. 10 He had been struggling for 10 years with 11 heroin. He's tried to get clean, and he just 12 couldn't do it. He had tried to get into treatment 13 a couple of times, and he was denied treatment. 14 And, we ended up in that cell, and he was 15 withdrawing, and I guess he found no better way than 16 to just end it. 17 So now I was sitting in jail, with $120,000 18 bail. My boyfriend was now dead, and I just -- 19 I didn't know what to do. 20 And my dad came, and my grandfather bailed me 21 out of jail. 22 I still got out of jail and could not get 23 into treatment. The judge saw it as two separate 24 issues: a robbery, and a drug addict. 25 That, they didn't see the reason that I did 8 1 the robbery was because I was addicted to drugs. 2 They completely separated it. 3 And, I had to pay a lot of money to get into 4 treatment. I went to a 28-day program, and I got 5 out. 6 And in that 28-day program, something clicked 7 to me, you know, I really needed to change my life 8 because, if I didn't, I was gonna die. 9 And, I got out, and for a week I was using. 10 And while I was in treatment, my the little 11 sister, she was 12 years old, she wrote me a letter: 12 I just want my sister back. Like, please. 13 And, uhm -- she -- when I got out, that kept 14 playing in my head, over and over again. 15 And at that point I said: I need to go away, 16 and I need to go away for a long time. I really 17 need to change. 18 And I went to my dad and I told him: I'm 19 ready to go, and I need to go, and I need to be away 20 for a very long time. 21 And, I went to Daytop for nine months, and 22 that's when my journey started. 23 I just really -- I was willing to do anything 24 I had to, to live. I didn't want to die. 25 And I did. I got enrolled in school. I went 9 1 to a sober house out east.