February 28, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H2277 committee member. She was always ing the sale of guns to individuals who firearms dealer then may sell or trans- trying to lighten the load for others are ineligible to purchase and possess fer the firearm to the prospective pur- and lend a helping hand. them. chaser without the background check Rita saw those in need and recog- That is why I support H.R. 1112, a bill completion, if the dealer has no reason nized that if she had the power to give, that addresses a dangerous short- to believe that the purchaser is prohib- she would, and even if it wasn’t in her coming in the current firearms back- ited from obtaining a firearm under power, she would try anyway. ground check law. Federal, State, or local law. Rita was a longtime Millersville Uni- In most cases, a licensed gun dealer The additional time for checks to be versity professor of psychology and Af- receives notification within a few min- completed will help prevent the trans- rican American studies and founded utes, often 90 seconds, from the Na- fer of guns to individuals who are ineli- the school’s African American studies tional Instant Criminal Background gible to possess them and will make us minor. Check System, sometimes called the safer. I am very happy to celebrate her life NICS, that a prospective buyer has I want to remind everyone that, in 90 today. We will miss her in our commu- passed or failed the background check. percent of the cases, the NICS system nity, and we will miss her contribu- In a small percentage of cases, NICS gives the answer within 90 seconds. So tions to our community. examiners may require additional time we are talking about a small number of cases, but a number of cases where we f to complete the background check if information is missing or unclear in a know there have been tragic results. ENHANCED BACKGROUND CHECKS prospective buyer’s record. For exam- We want to stop that. ACT OF 2019 ple, there may be on the record a nota- I commend our colleague Congress- GENERAL LEAVE tion that the prospective buyer was ar- man JIM CLYBURN, the distinguished Mr. NADLER. Madam Speaker, I ask rested but no notation as to whether Democratic whip, for introducing this unanimous consent that all Members the buyer was acquitted or convicted. bipartisan bill, which is a sensible and may have 5 legislative days in which to That would have to be looked into fur- necessary approach to addressing this revise and extend their remarks and in- ther. dangerous shortcoming in current law. Madam Chair, I ask my colleagues to sert extraneous material on H.R. 1112, However, under current law, a li- join me in supporting this bill today, the Enhanced Background Checks Act censed gun dealer conducting a back- ground check on a prospective pur- and I reserve the balance of my time. of 2019. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam chaser is permitted to sell the firearm The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there Chair, I yield myself such time as I to the purchaser if there has been no objection to the request of the gen- may consume. tleman from New York? determination from NICS after 3 busi- Madam Chair, here we go again. Just There was no objection. ness days, even though NICS has not like yesterday, our colleagues on the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- indicated that the person has actually other side of the aisle voted to crim- ant to House Resolution 145 and rule passed the background check. inalize the transfer of a firearm be- XVIII, the Chair declares the House in Often, we refer to this as a default tween two law-abiding citizens. the Committee of the Whole House on proceed transaction. Today, they further reveal this inter- the state of the Union for the consider- These are the very cases that ought est by bringing up a bill that would ation of the bill, H.R. 1112. to be investigated. In 2017 alone, the prohibit law-abiding citizens from ever The Chair appoints the gentlewoman ATF determined that over 4,000 default being able to acquire firearms. And from Illinois (Ms. UNDERWOOD) to pre- proceed firearms transfers went to pur- that is not hyperbole, Madam Chair; it side over the Committee of the Whole. chasers who should not lawfully have is fact. gotten them because they could not b 0915 Let me briefly explain how that lawfully own a firearm. would happen. Allow me to walk IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE If NICS is unable to return an instant through the mechanics of this legisla- Accordingly, the House resolved determination, and especially if there tion. itself into the Committee of the Whole is no report after 3 days, there is real Let’s start at the beginning of the House on the state of the Union for the cause for concern. month. Assume I went to a Federal consideration of the bill (H.R. 1112) to One notable example of the tragic firearms licensee, an FFL, to purchase amend chapter 44 of title 18, United consequences of this loophole is the a firearm on Friday, February 1, of this States Code, to strengthen the back- hate crime murder of nine people at month. Under H.R. 1112, the FBI’s NICS ground check procedures to be followed the Emanuel African Methodist Epis- system has 10 business days to respond before a Federal firearms licensee may copal Church in Charleston, South to the FFL. transfer a firearm to a person who is Carolina, in 2015. The tenth business day is a Friday, not such a licensee, with Ms. UNDER- In that tragedy, the shooter was not February the 15th. If, after those 10 WOOD in the chair. legally allowed to possess a firearm as business days, NICS does not okay the The Clerk read the title of the bill. a result of drug charges, but he still transfer, I must file a petition with the The CHAIR. Pursuant to the rule, the was able to purchase his gun from a li- Department of Justice certifying that I bill is considered read the first time. censed dealer, who made the decision have no reason to believe that I am The gentleman from New York (Mr. to transfer after 3 business days had prohibited by Federal, State, or local NADLER) and the gentleman from Geor- elapsed, despite not having received a law from purchasing or possessing a gia (Mr. COLLINS) each will control 30 definitive response from the back- firearm. minutes. ground check system. Once that petition is filed, the NICS The Chair recognizes the gentleman The bill before us today, H.R. 1112, system has an additional 10 days to from New York. would strengthen the background make a determination. That would be Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield check procedures Federal firearms li- Monday, March 5, in our example be- myself such time as I may consume. censees or dealers must follow before cause February 18 was a Federal holi- Madam Chair, I am pleased that selling or transferring a firearm. day and not a business day. today we are considering H.R. 1112, the Under this bill, the initial period a If, at the conclusion of the 20 busi- Enhanced Background Checks Act. gun dealer must wait for an answer ness days waiting period, NICS does Yesterday, the House passed H.R. 8, from the NICS is extended from 3 days not deny the transfer, I could then ac- the Bipartisan Background Checks Act, to 10 days. If, after 10 days, the NICS quire the firearm. an important bill to expand our na- system has not returned an answer to But wait, Madam Chair. Under exist- tional firearms background check sys- the dealer, the prospective purchaser ing law, the NICS background check is tem to include virtually all gun trans- may file a petition with the attorney only valid for 30 calendar days from the fers. general, which should help resolve date it is initiated. Under our example, However, there are also steps we can most applications in short order. that would be Saturday, March the take to make the current background If an additional 10 days elapses with- 2nd, which is 2 days before my petition check system more effective at block- out a response from NICS, the licensed is required to be acted upon.

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Madam Chair, I allowed him to get that gun after 3 does do this, and there is no mistaking thank my friend for yielding me the days, when it was around the fifth day what is written. time. that they found the glitch in the sys- As I have said many times, we do not Madam Chair, let me begin my re- tem and found him to be ineligible to vote on aspirational ideas in this marks, first of all, by welcoming to our own a gun. Chamber. They are great to debate, but Capitol today Miss Jennifer Pinckney We just had a gunman go into his we do not vote on aspirational ideas. and her two daughters. They are the workplace in Aurora, Illinois. He was We vote on words on paper, and words wife and children of Reverend ineligible to have a gun, but he was al- on paper are just as I have described. Clementa Pinckney, who, along with lowed to purchase the gun. When they I will let the American people deter- eight of his Bible study parishioners, found out that he was ineligible to mine what the intent was here. How- lost his life to a demented white su- have a gun, they then sent him a letter ever, as I noted yesterday, in the rush premacist who said that he was inter- and said: Please bring us the gun back. to put this to the floor, they did not ested in starting a race war. You are not eligible to have a gun. bother to fix some several major issues. He entered their church, participated Give me a break. No, he didn’t return We also know, as we go forward in in the Bible study, into which they the gun, because he had no redeeming this that this indefinite and perpetual welcomed him. And, as they closed value in having a gun. And he mur- delay of the transfer of firearms to law- their study that evening and prayed for dered his coworkers. And you are tell- abiding citizens is perhaps the intent of what they had experienced and for ing me we should not inconvenience this bill. their next meeting, this gentleman, him. Well, my colleague, the chair of the Keep in mind, under current law, an while their eyes were closed, opened his committee, has laid out for you the FFL has the option to transfer the fire- and slaughtered them. procedure in this bill, a procedure that arm after 3 business days unless the I find it interesting that my col- makes it a maximum, irrespective of transfer has been denied by NICS. league has talked about the inconven- what my colleague may say, it is a I would contend that 3 business days ience of waiting longer than 3 days to maximum of 20 working days, business is not instant and a month is anything purchase a weapon, without men- but instant, particularly as tech- days, that one would have in order to tioning those poor souls of Emanuel purchase a gun. nologies continue to advance. AME Church. These laws have real-world con- I would hope, as we move forward He has talked about people who sequences, and consequences can be here today, we would think about those might be inconvenienced; he has talked deadly. poor souls of Emanuel AME Church, Carol Bowne was a New Jersey resi- about something he read in the news- and we think about those 4,000 people, dent with a restraining order against papers; but he has not mentioned them. 4,200 people, who purchased guns in 2016 her ex-boyfriend. Her application for a Well, I am here today to say that the using this loophole, and the 4,800 peo- firearm took longer than 40 days to Members of this august body need to ple who purchased guns in 2017 using process, and he stabbed her to death think a little bit about the value of this loophole. Think about their fami- while she was waiting to legally pro- those lives. lies. Think about their children. And tect herself. Are they more valuable than the in- think about what we are about to do Let that sink in. convenience a gun purchaser may have here today. This bill would empower abusers and by having to wait 10 rather than 3 days The Acting CHAIR (Ms. JUDY CHU of violent predators by making their vic- to make a purchase? California). The time of the gentleman tims more vulnerable. What would make one so anxious to has expired. Madam Chair, we oppose this legisla- purchase a gun in the first place? If Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield tion. It doesn’t make sense in its cur- you have got to have a gun right now, the gentleman from South Carolina an rent form. It will do nothing to make chances are you have no useful pur- additional 1 minute. Mr. CLYBURN. Let me just take this our communities safer, but it will pose, no redeeming value, in the pur- minute to go back to what I had pre- make it harder for law-abiding citizens chase of that gun. Maybe we ought to participate here, pared to say here today. to exercise their Second Amendment In troubling times, many of us find rights and to defend themselves and as Members of this body, in helping this purchaser with a cooling-off pe- solace in the Serenity Prayer: God, their families. grant me the serenity to accept the Madam Chair, I am not often going riod, which is all we are asking to do here. things I cannot change, the courage to to be able to say this, but I am joined change the things I can, and the wis- Charleston, South Carolina, is nick- today by the ACLU, who is opposing dom—wisdom—to know the difference. this bill and scoring against this bill. named the ‘‘Holy City.’’ Churches and The Charleston loophole is something It is not ready for prime time. It is steeples dominate the skyline of this all Members of Congress should have ready to go back to actually have hear- historic city, which, until recently, had the courage to change and, by doing so, ings and actually do markups and actu- an ordinance that no building could be grant the American people the serenity ally work with this bill. constructed higher than 55 feet, want- they deserve in their schools, in their I appreciate the gentleman, espe- ing nothing to obstruct its steeples. entertainment venues, in their neigh- cially, from South Carolina’s intent. Faith is fundamental to the Charles- borhood streets, and, God forbid, in No one fights stronger for his constitu- ton community. However, that faith their places of worship. ency than the gentleman from South was rocked in June 2015 when this lone Madam Chair, I rise today in support of H.R. Carolina. This is just not the right gunman rushed into this Bible study, 1112, the Enhanced Background Checks Act piece of legislation at the right time after having studied the most historic of 2019. for the reasons that I spoke of, that African American churches in the Charleston, South Carolina, is nicknamed have nothing to do with the intent. It State of South Carolina and developing the Holy City. Church spires dominate the sky- has everything to do with words on a list of five churches, one of which was line of this historic city, which, until recently, paper. Remember, Madam Chair, that Emanuel AME. had an ordinance that no building could be is what we vote on, not aspirational He, by his own admission, selected constructed higher than 55 feet. In this city, ideas. this church because of its importance faith is foundational. It is a source of strength With that, I reserve the balance of to the African American community, and community that dates back centuries. my time. being the first organized place of wor- However, that faith was rocked in June Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield 7 ship in the South for African Ameri- 2015 when a lone gunman punctuated his par- minutes to the gentleman from South cans. ticipation in a Bible study at Emanuel AME

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It could have Now it is time to address the cir- sanctity of the Holy City, and in response Con- stopped. cumstances in which the FBI needs ad- gress observed a moment of silence and all This was already in law, Madam ditional time to investigate informa- Americans offered thoughts and prayers. Chair. It could have stopped. tion relating to a prospective pur- While a moment of silence and our thoughts Yes, what I laid out for you is not chaser when the records may not be and prayers are appreciated in times of trag- just simply 20 business days, when you immediately clear as to whether some- edy, they do nothing to solve the underlying look at the fact that, coupled with one is legally allowed to purchase a problem. The real tragedy in Charleston is it other restrictions, it can do what we firearm. could have been prevented. The gunman ac- said. Under current law, after 3 days, a gun quired the weapon used in the massacre be- I have great sympathy and grief for dealer has the discretion to sell a gun cause of a fault in the law that is now known every loss of life, no matter where it to a purchaser, if the system has not as the Charleston Loophole. The gun pur- comes from. But to simply say that given a green light to the sale after 3 chase was subject to a background check; this would have fixed it, when the FBI business days have passed without a however, when a glitch in the system caused and others knew they could have fixed denial being issued by the system. In the background review to take more than the it at that moment and could have went these circumstances, it is the choice of three-day limit allowed by law, the gunman later and got the guns, because there the dealer as to whether to proceed was a delay even in the horrific act was able to purchase the weapon, although it with the sale, which we call a default that happened—again, we are simply was later found that he was ineligible to pur- proceed, or whether to wait for the talking about what is on the paper. chase a gun. The system failed to stop this check to be implemented. 1⁄2 minutes Madam Chairman, I yield 1 The results of such a choice were gun sale to an ineligible purchaser and 4,864 to the gentleman from California (Mr. others in 2017. tragic in Charleston, South Carolina, MCCLINTOCK). It has been 25 years since the Brady Bill in 2015, when a young man filled with Mr. MCCLINTOCK. Madam Chair- became law, and there has been no significant man, we all deplore and mourn the hate shot and killed nine worshippers legislation enacted since to stem gun violence. monstrous, despicable, and evil mas- at the Emanuel AME Church. The gun Yet in 2017, 100 people were killed each day sacre in Charleston. But that terrible used in this murder had been trans- in this country with a firearm—which touches crime was committed 67 days after the ferred by a gun dealer to the shooter every district represented in this august body. perpetrator applied to purchase the even though the check had not been A vote in support of the Enhanced Back- firearm. completed by the FBI, but would have ground Checks Act of 2019 extends the time As Mr. COLLINS said, this was pre- resulted in a denial had the check been allowed for law enforcement to conduct back- ventable if, under current law, it was a finished. ground checks. Under this bill, if the back- failure of the FBI and not of the law. This is not an isolated incident. ground check isn’t concluded within 10 busi- This bill is not about public safety. Since 1994, gun sellers proceeded with ness days, the purchaser can request an ex- Most gun predators already get their between 3,000 and 4,000 default proceed pedited background check, which notifies law firearms illegally. A recent Johns Hop- sales per year. Analyzing data provided enforcement of the urgency of the review and kins study found that California’s uni- by the Department of Justice, one starts an additional 10 business day period for versal background check had no effect study found that such sales are eight the background check to be completed. While on gun violence. times more likely to involve a prohib- more than 96 percent of background checks Their true objective is to make gun ited purchaser than other background are completed within three days—and 90 per- ownership by law-abiding people so le- checks. cent of Americans support background gally hazardous and so bureau- In 2017 alone, default proceed sales checks—this expedited review allows for law cratically time-consuming that people accounted for more than 4,800 transfers enforcement to complete the small percentage simply give up. This bill cleverly and, I to purchasers who were prohibited that may take longer than three days. If at the believe, insidiously sets up a poten- from owning firearms. The FBI re- end of the expedited review the background tially never-ending bureaucratic re- ported that, in 2007 and 2008, in cases a check is inconclusive, then the purchase may view process. licensed seller sold a firearm through proceed. As Mr. COLLINS said, a background default proceed transfers—— Restricting the Charleston Loophole doesn’t check is only good for 30 calendar days The Acting CHAIR. The time of the prohibit law abiding citizens from purchasing a from the day you apply. But this bill gentlewoman has expired. gun, but it does provide more time, if needed, sets up a 20-business-day delay process. Mr. NADLER. Madam Chairman, I for law enforcement to ensure weapons are Now, what that means is, if a single yield the gentlewoman from California not sold to those with criminal convictions or holiday falls within that window, or an additional 30 seconds. mental illness. This is an important first step the store is closed on weekends, or you Ms. BASS. The FBI reported that, in our country should take to protect our citizens slip a single day on that timetable, 2007 and 2008, in cases where a licensed and their first amendment rights. your background check is no longer seller sold a firearm through default In troubling times many of us find solace in valid, and you have to start all over proceed transfers, approximately 22 the Serenity prayer—God, grant me the seren- again in a perpetual cycle of percent of the individuals investigated ity to accept the things I cannot change; cour- Kafkaesque proportions. were legally prohibited from pur- age to change the things I can; and wisdom Now, would a bureaucracy be so abu- chasing or possessing a firearm. to know the difference.’’ The Charleston Loop- sive as to play this game? Well, of The additional time provided by H.R. hole is something all Members of Congress course it would. Just ask Lois Lerner. 1112 is not too much to ask so that we should have the courage to change and grant Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield 2 may help prevent tragedies such as the the American people the serenity they deserve minutes to the gentlewoman from Cali- Charleston shooting from happening. in their schools, entertainment venues, neigh- fornia (Ms. BASS), the chair of the This is why I ask my colleagues to join borhood streets and—God forbid—their places Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Secu- me in supporting this bill today. of worship. rity Subcommittee. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam Ms. BASS. Madam Chair, I support Chair, I yield 2 minutes to the gen- Chair, I yield myself such time as I H.R. 1112, the Enhanced Background tleman from Virginia (Mr. CLINE). may consume. Checks Act of 2019 as a commonsense Mr. CLINE. Madam Chair, I want to Look, I have great sympathy for measure to improve the current fire- thank the gentleman from Georgia for what the gentleman from South Caro- arms background check system and to the time. lina just spoke of. But, also, I have save lives. Madam Chair, I rise in strong opposi- even greater sympathy for the fact it Twenty-five years ago today, we tion to H.R. 1112. This legislation is an could have been avoided and had noth- began implementation of the Brady attack on the constitutional rights of

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Madam Chair, I yield 3 books instead of passing Federal man- Madam Chair, I rise today to fight minutes to the gentlewoman from dates that stifle freedom. This bill cre- for the rights of the brave men and Georgia (Mrs. MCBATH), a member of ates a bureaucratic maze that will women who have risked their lives the committee. allow the Federal Government to sit on fighting for our rights. Mrs. MCBATH. Madam Chair, I thank its hands and force citizens to submit The bill we are debating, H.R. 1112, Chairman NADLER for yielding. formal petitions to the Attorney Gen- would have a significant impact on vet- Madam Chair, I rise in support of eral when they are trying to legally erans’ Second Amendment rights. A H.R. 1112, the Enhanced Background purchase a firearm, to ask permission little-known and poorly understood Checks Act of 2019. to exercise their constitutional right. provision of H.R. 1112 would amend the After losing my son Jordan to gun vi- What other constitutional right law to make it unlawful for an indi- olence in 2012, I began reaching out to would you suggest we put this level of vidual who has been ‘‘adjudicated with other families who recently lost a restriction on? The freedom of the mental illness, severe developmental loved one to gun violence. I would send press? The freedom of religion? Should disability, or severe emotional insta- them letters. That is how I came to we start having the Federal Govern- bility’’ to purchase, to possess a fire- know Reverend Sharon Risher of Char- ment review every media outlet’s story arm. It would make it illegal to sell a lotte, North Carolina. for 10 days before they can be pub- firearm to such an individual. On June 17, 2017, Reverend Risher lished? before a church can meet for Let’s put this in perspective. There lost her mother, two cousins, and a worship? I don’t think so. are over 1.6 million disabled veterans childhood friend when a young man It is my hope that we will soon move with service-connected adjudication by shot and killed nine people during a forward with solutions, solutions that VA of mental illness, including 1 mil- prayer service at the Emanuel Church will actually make a difference for lion veterans with PTSD. H.R. 1112 has in Charleston, South Carolina. Today, hardworking Americans across this the potential to add all those names of with H.R. 1112, we can close the loop- great country. hole in background checks for the gun When I was sworn in as a Member of veterans to the FBI NICS list and pre- purchase that led to their terrible loss. the House earlier this year, I saw great vent those veterans from being able to I support this legislation for Reverend potential for Congress to come to- purchase or possess a firearm. Sharon Risher and the memory of her gether and advance solutions to our Now, I know that may not have been family and her loved ones. Nation’s greatest problems. Instead, I the intent of the author of this bill, but Tragically, this was not the last time find myself standing here on the floor that is a lot of veterans who will be im- our country witnessed horrific violence of this Chamber fighting for the basic pacted if this becomes law. in a place of worship. A few months liberties that our Founding Fathers I offered an amendment at the Rules ago, the shooting at the Tree of Life sought to guarantee for every Amer- Committee to clarify that veterans synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsyl- ican. with VA PTSD, diagnosed mental ill- Madam Chair, I will continue to ness, and other affected adjudications vania, took the lives of 11 human stand and continue to fight each and would be exempted from the bill’s beings. every day, and I urge the House to re- standards, but it was ruled out of Our places of worship, whether they ject this misguided legislation. order. are churches, synagogues, mosques, or Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield 1 VA already sends the names of vet- something else, should be safe places of minute to the gentlewoman from Illi- erans who have a VA fiduciary for in- love, support, and community. H.R. nois (Ms. UNDERWOOD). clusion on the NICS list—not because 1112 would allow law enforcement the Ms. UNDERWOOD. Madam Chair, ev- there is a concern that the veteran time that they need to make sure all eryone deserves to feel safe in their might be a harm to themselves or oth- these community centers are places of community, whether they are at work, ers, but because the VA has determined peace and safety. at home, at school, or at church. that the veteran needs assistance han- Yesterday, we voted to expand back- Less than 2 weeks ago, five people, dling his or her financial benefits. ground checks. Today, we vote to make four of whom were my constituents, sure those background checks are thor- b 0945 left their homes for work at the Henry ough, even if a few of them take a few Pratt Company in Aurora, Illinois, and I am concerned that the expanded more days to process. Those few extra never returned. Their lives were taken definition proposed in H.R. 1112 would days will save lives. by a horrific act of gun violence. infringe on the Second Amendment In the days after the Emanuel shoot- I am committed to honoring the lives rights of over 1 million veterans solely ing, I was there in the community of the victims of gun violence through because they receive benefits from VA praying with the community and deal- action. H.R. 1112 is an important bill that they have rightly earned through ing with their pain and loss. America that will help address a deficiency in their service to our great country. deserves better than this. background check laws by allowing law The last thing any of us in this room Why not make sure that we are doing enforcement to conduct a thorough want to do is to discourage veterans everything that we can to protect background check. I am proud to co- from seeking VA benefits and treat- them? A few more days in making sure sponsor an amendment that will help ment because they are afraid it might that the FBI has the ability to really ensure this legislation improves the cost them a constitutional right. soundly make a conscious and critical safety of victims of domestic violence, Think about that. decision, America deserves that. domestic abuse, dating partner vio- Although there may not have been a Madam Chair, I ask my colleagues to lence, sexual assault, and stalking. finding by a judicial authority that a join me in supporting this bill. Yesterday was the first time in more veteran poses a danger to themselves Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam than two decades that this U.S. House or society, these veterans will be told Chair, I reserve the balance of my of Representatives passed a major gun that they were good enough to use a time. safety bill, and today we have an op- firearm to fight for our freedoms, but Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield portunity to take a further step. H.R. they are not good enough to have the myself as much time as I may con- 1112 will help save innocent lives, and I freedom to bear arms as a civilian. sume. look forward to working on common- That is wrong, Madam Chair. Even Madam Chair, I heard the argument sense legislation that balances pro- criminals must be convicted in a court from the other side a moment ago that tecting our gun rights and ensuring the of law before their names are added to people adjudged ineligible for the sys- safety of our communities. the NICS list. tem by the VA, that their names

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I thank Mr. of present law as this bill proceeds. makes sense to make it easier for peo- CLYBURN for his leadership, and I thank Madam Chair, I reserve the balance ple adjudged not to be proper to have a Mr. NADLER for bringing these bills be- of my time. gun to have a gun if you are worried fore the Judiciary Committee so we Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam about suicides. That argument is, can finally take some responsible ac- Chair, I yield myself such time as I frankly, nonsensical. I am very glad tion to reduce gun violence in this may consume. the VA helps protect our veterans by country. Madam Chair, I do appreciate the participating in the system. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam gentleman from New York clarifying Madam Chair, I yield 2 minutes to Chair, I am actually glad, and one that, but he just clarified it in the very the gentleman from Rhode Island (Mr. thing I will agree on with my friend way—because we had brought this up. CICILLINE), a member of the committee just now is I do agree that there is a It was late in the day, and we brought and the chairman of one of our sub- right to life, and that is why I would this up, and this language was offen- committees. love to see this House bring forth the sive. And, frankly, Ms. LOFGREN, who Mr. CICILLINE. Madam Chair, I Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protec- was in the chair at the time, presented thank the chairman for yielding. tion Act, which also protects life as this language as an alternative to get Madam Chair, I would just point out well. us to a place where, as we talked in further support of Mr. NADLER’s re- Madam Chair, I reserve the balance about, we could get to Rules to actu- marks, on average, 20 veterans commit of my time. ally fix this. suicide every single day in this coun- Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield This is why I have said so many myself such time as I may consume. try, and two-thirds of those suicides times that I have not—I understand the Madam Chair, at this time I would are caused by use of a gun. So Mr. NAD- majority’s willingness to bring the bill like to address a concern that has been LER is quite right. raised by one section of the bill that is forward. What I didn’t understand here Madam Chair, I rise in strong support unrelated to the changes to current is the willingness of this majority to of H.R. 1112 to close the Charleston law to address the Charleston loophole. put themselves on a time table to bring loophole. Section 3 of the bill replaces out- bills that were not ready. The reason We have heard a lot about what is at dated and offensive terminology in the we did it that night was so that we stake in terms of constitutional rights categories of individuals who are ineli- could get to Rules. as it relates to possession of a firearm. gible to purchase or possess firearms I served on the Rules Committee for There are other constitutional rights under current law. Among those in- 4 years. We could have fixed it at that are at issue here, and that is the cluded, there are individuals subject to Rules. right to life, liberty, the right to live such prohibitions because, as stated by Dr. ROE actually just brought an free of gun violence and death, the the current law, they are ‘‘adjudicated amendment to Rules, but it was re- right of a grandmother to sit on her as a mental defective.’’ jected. porch and enjoy a summer evening free At the Judiciary Committee’s mark- I understand that now we are going from the dangers of gun violence, the up of the bill, we agreed with our rank- to continue forward. right of young children to play in a ing member, Representative COLLINS, I have a daughter who has spina playground and play safely. to replace this offensive language and bifida, and many would say ‘‘mental So this legislation is very important to insert different terminology in the defective.’’ For anyone in that commu- because it closes a very significant bill as a placeholder as we work to de- nity who believes that those who are loophole in our law. velop alternative language that does born that way would be a mental defec- Over the last two decades, the not alter the scope of who is included tive is a problem. It needs to be fixed. Charleston loophole has allowed more in these prohibitions and to work with But the problem that we have here than 60,000 purchases of guns by prohib- stakeholders who have an interest in was a committee process that broke ited individuals. how this would be accomplished. and a Rules process that broke. There Let that sink in. We have heard from various advo- were plenty of opportunities to address Sixty thousand people who are pro- cates in the mental health, disability this, plenty of opportunities to discuss hibited from having a gun by law were rights, and veterans communities who this. In the rush to do, again, what I allowed to get those guns because of have expressed their desire to develop said yesterday many times, what this loophole. an acceptable alternative. We agree. makes you feel good does not always One of those purchasers was a white Yesterday, the Veterans of Foreign heal you, now you have a problem, a supremacist who used the gun that he Wars brought their concerns related to valid problem. purchased to kill nine worshippers at this issue to our attention. The VFW But it was not a problem from the the Mother Emanuel Church in South agrees that the current terminology is perspective of not trying to fix it. It Carolina. Even though he had a felony archaic but is concerned about a poten- came from the heart on both sides of drug charge on his record, this killer tial unintended consequence of replac- the aisle to say this language is ar- was able to buy a gun because his back- ing it. chaic, this language should not be ground check wasn’t completed in 3 Their concern is that replacing these there. There were plenty of times to fix days. terms with ‘‘mental illness,’’ ‘‘severe it. And he isn’t the only one, of course. developmental disability,’’ or ‘‘severe I appreciate the chairman. I am glad A 2016 GAO report found that, between emotional instability’’ could result in to hear his willingness to continue to 2006 and 2015, guns were transferred to some veterans who are not now in- work on this. What would another day about 6,700 people with domestic vio- cluded being added to the NICS index have taken? What problem would an lence convictions and more than 500 in- due to their receipt of VA care or bene- amendment voted up or down by Dr. dividuals with prohibiting protective fits for mental illnesses such as PTSD ROE have caused on the floor? orders. or traumatic brain injury. I guess when the ACLU and others So there are many, many examples It is not the intent of the changes in started scoring against it, we decided where the American people are less this terminology made by section 3 to we might need to fix it. safe because criminals and disqualified alter the scope of those currently con- Again, this is a process problem. I people can access a firearm because the sidered to be ‘‘adjudicated as a mental know nobody likes to talk about proc- background check wasn’t completed in defective.’’ It is the intent simply to ess problems because, at the end of the 3 days. This is a very simple common- replace that offensive language, but day, I believe the authors’ intents be- sense solution to that problem. not to change the underlying law. hind these bills, I believe their intents

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But in a day chairman is willing to address this about PTSD, but it was ‘‘present-trau- or two, when it had not yet been ap- going forward, but it is just sad that we matic stress disorder’’ because of all proved, Dylann Roof was able to get a had to get here today, because this the guns that are in the streets in the gun. And Dylann Roof’s whole message could have been fixed except for an ar- hands of people who should not have was: I am going to start a race war by bitrary timeline put onto my chairman them. going into an unlocked church on a that he really had no control over, I be- Madam Chair, today, I challenge my prayer night and kill nine worshippers lieve, to bring something forward that colleagues to do the right thing: Pass praying to their God and their pastor— is not ready for prime time. this bill and save lives. Pass this bill whose wife was here today. I respect my chairman. I am glad and prevent dangerous people from get- The question has to be: When are we that he has addressed this. I hope that ting guns. Pass this law because you going to stop the senseless killings and they will give him plenty of time in the never know if it will be your son or the eons and eons of mass shootings? future to continue to work these prob- mother who could be next, gunned My good friend from Georgia (Mr. lems out. down by doing something as routine as COLLINS) is a man of faith. I was in the Madam Chair, I reserve the balance praying. committee room as a senior member on of my time. Today, we need to do the right thing. the Subcommittee on Crime, Ter- Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield Today, we need to pass H.R. 1112. rorism, Homeland Security, and Inves- myself such time as I may consume. Today, we need to honor the Emanuel tigations as we were trying to delib- Madam Chair, our mistake was in ac- 9 and close the Charleston loophole. erate his concern, a very vital concern, Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam cepting the amendment from the gen- one that I have, to love people with dis- Chair, I yield myself such time as I tleman from Georgia (Mr. COLLINS). abilities, to love them and treat them may consume. with dignity. The amendment dealt with the under- Madam Chair, I can go back through The language in this legislation does lying language of the underlying law, my opening statement and list the that as best we could at the time, be- not with the bill. We should have in- many reasons I oppose this bill that cause it puts the language adjudicated, sisted that an attempt to correct that have nothing to do with the amend- determined by some objective body, language be in a separate bill. ment that should have been fixed by that you have a health problem that The gentleman from Georgia is now the time we got to Rules, which was deals with a mental concern. telling us that we should kill this bill agreed upon. Actually, the language that will save so many lives because we The question has to be, if it is not was given by Ms. LOFGREN and staff, workable, you pass the bill. All of us have not figured out acceptable lan- and we said that we will take that and guage to replace existing bad language have made a commitment to work move to Rules to fix it. through this process and to give dig- in the existing law that had nothing to If you go back and look at my state- nity to every person, including vet- do with this bill. ment, I am opposing this bill for many erans. We should pass this bill. other reasons that are very valid. I be- But at the same time, would you We will work as we go forward to see lieve when you look for timing, you want to have a situation that happened if we can come up with acceptable lan- look for other things. guage, but in any event, we should pass Again, I believe working the process with Dylann Roof, a convicted felon this bill and deal with the separate is proper. Working the process will go who grabbed a gun in 2 days and killed problem of bad language in the under- through. The majority brought this to nine innocent people, or killed people lying law separately. the floor, and they should have the in various other places, from Col- Madam Chair, how much time do I votes to pass it. If not, then the Senate umbine, to Aurora, to Virginia Tech? The Acting CHAIR. The time of the have remaining? can work on this language, and we go gentlewoman has expired. The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman forward. from New York has 6 minutes remain- I think the bigger issue is the very Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield ing. fundamental issue of the timing of this an additional 30 seconds to the gentle- Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield 1 bill, the timing that it is not just 20 woman from Texas. minute to the gentlewoman from Illi- days, and it is not just 10 days. There Ms. JACKSON LEE. Look at the sto- nois (Ms. KELLY). is another, when you couple it with the ries of mass shootings, or look at the violence in cities where people are get- b 1000 actual 30-day restriction on the appli- cation itself. So there are plenty of ting guns. Ms. KELLY of Illinois. Madam Chair, Madam Chair, I would make the ar- reasons for me to oppose this bill. I rise today for Myra Thompson and The other part was simply a discus- gument that, today, we must pass H.R. Susie Jackson, people who were mur- sion that should have been fixed and 1112. The mercy of all of us dealing dered in their church during a Bible wasn’t. That is a tragedy, that we are with issues to give dignity to those study. And I rise for the tens of thou- coming to the floor and that even be a who suffer from illnesses that embrace sands of Americans who will die if Con- problem. But at the end of the day, we mental illness concerns, it was because gress does not close the Charleston pointed it out, we tried to, and that is Mr. COLLINS, a man of faith, offered loophole. where it is at. that suggestion. Therefore, we are In 2015, the FBI reported that more My problem with this bill is the bill going to move forward with the com- than 270,000 guns were sold because the itself and much of the language that mitment to work it through and pro- NICS system failed to issue a ‘‘do not we have here. vide the dignity necessary, but to save sale’’ order within 3 days. Madam Chair, I reserve the balance the lives and to give tribute in death to One was sold to a man with a hate- of my time. those who lost their lives at the hands filled heart, as we have heard. He Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield 2 of Dylann Roof. Vote for H.R. 1112. walked into Mother Emanuel church in minutes to the distinguished gentle- Madam Chair, I rise in support of H.R. 1112, Charleston, South Carolina, a histori- woman from Texas (Ms. JACKSON LEE), the ‘‘Enhanced Background Checks Act of cally Black church, and murdered nine a member of the committee. 2019,’’ legislation that would strengthen the people who were simply seeking to get Ms. JACKSON LEE. Madam Chair, I background check system that is already in closer to their God. thank the chairman and Mr. CLYBURN, place to purchase a firearm. Madam Chair, we have seen this time who, for years, has been working on I thank the Majority Whip, Congressman and time again. Our houses of worship this issue. CLYBURN, for introducing H.R. 1112 in re- are not safe from gun violence: Mother Madam Chair, H.R. 1112, the En- sponse to the atrocity perpetrated at Mother Emanuel, First Baptist Church in hanced Background Checks Act of 2019, Emmanuel A.M.E. Church in Charleston,

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However, I am also a defender of the right The victims were later referred to as ‘‘The On the night of October 1, 2017, a gunman to live, the greatest divine right of all. Charleston Nine’’ and ‘‘The Emanuel Nine’’. opened fire on a large crowd of concertgoers I want all Americans to enjoy their Second Under current law, after a prospective buyer at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival on the Amendment right, but not at the expense of completes the appropriate form, the holder of Las Vegas Strip, leaving 58 people dead and the lives of our children, students, commu- a Federal Firearms License initiates the back- 527 injured. nities, and law enforcement officials. ground check by phone or computer. On November 5, 2017, a mass shooting oc- Imagine going to grade school in this day If a determination is not obtained within curred at the First Baptist Church in Suther- and age and having to undergo ‘‘active shoot- three business days then the transfer may le- land Springs, Texas, where the gunman, 26- er’’ drills. gally be completed by default proceeding and year-old Devin Patrick Kelley, killed 26 and in- Imagine having children in grade school that is how Dylan Roof obtain the handgun he jured 20 others. today. used to commit the killings, which he pur- Every day, on average, 92 Americans are Imagine the anxiety parents feel knowing chased from a retail store in West Columbia, victims of gun violence, resulting in more than that any day the precious lives of their children SC. 33,000 deaths annually. may be interrupted by someone with an AK– H.R 1112, the ‘‘Enhanced Background States with higher gun ownership rates have 47 or AR–15. Checks Act of 2019,’’ would strengthen the higher gun murder rates—as much as 114 Imagine a brighter future for America’s chil- background check procedures that firearms li- percent higher than other states. dren, one that does not include active shooter censees or dealers follow before selling or A recent study by the CDC looking at 30 drills and funerals for adolescents. transferring a firearm. years of homicide data found that for every 1 We can help make that future a reality and As under current law, firearms dealers percent increase in a state’s gun ownership we can start by voting to pass H.R. 1112, the would be required to run a background check rate, there is a nearly 1 percent increase in its ‘‘Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2019,’’ on prospective buyers using the National In- firearm homicide rate. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam stant Criminal Background Check System Gun death rates are generally lower in Chair, I yield myself such time as I (‘‘NICS’’). states with restrictions such as safe storage may consume. Over 90% of NICS checks are completed requirements or assault weapons bans. Madam Chair, in closing, we have had within 90 seconds. Mass shootings stopped by armed civilians an interesting debate this morning. I Under H.R. 1112, if the NICS system has in the past 33 years: 0. think we went back on two points. not returned an answer to the licensed fire- This is why legislation put forward to arm One, I believe I laid out the problems arms dealer within ten days, the prospective teachers is not the solution. in a very methodical way on why this firearms purchaser may file a petition with the Stronger legislation is needed to prevent bill has serious defects in it that could Attorney General for review. guns from getting into the wrong hands be- possibly be fixed, if given long enough Then, after another ten-day period has ex- cause unfortunately, more than 75 percent of to work. I still may disagree with the pired, the licensed firearms dealer may sell or the weapons used in mass shootings between premise of the bill, but it could have transfer the firearm to the prospective pur- 1982 and 2012 were obtained legally. been worked out, when you actually chaser if it has not received a response We must look at gun violence in its totality take one part of law and combine it through the NICS system and the dealer has to determine what are the root causes of with another part of law. And we have no reason to believe that the purchaser is pro- these alarming rates of lives cut short. seen a calendaring problem here. That hibited from obtaining a firearm under federal, We are elected by our constituents to lead is one part. That is the main part I state, or local law. in resolving the issues that plague our country, have. Under this measure, licensed firearms deal- and the issue of gun violence is a definite I think we have also seen how the ers could not sell or transfer under the ‘‘default plague across the nation. process has not worked out again. proceed’’ provision until at least 20 days have My good friend, Houston Police Chief Art Sometimes in life, getting it first is passed since the initial background check, Acevedo, gave a statement after four of his of- not best. Getting it quickly may not thus closing the so-called ‘‘Charleston loop- ficers were shot while on duty. always be the best result. I think what hole.’’ He rightfully admonished us elected officials we are seeing here is something that An internal assessment by the Federal Bu- who, so far, have accomplished absolutely when we are dealing with the rights of reau of Investigation (FBI) demonstrated that nothing about the public-health epidemic of individuals, especially in this area here the National Instant Criminal Background gun violence. and especially for the reasons that Checks System (‘‘NICS’’) yields results that Thanks to the new Democratic majority in were given, which was a tragedy in are approximately 99.3 percent to 99.8 per- Congress, we had a long overdue Gun Safety Charleston that could have been cent accurate, and in 90 percent of cases, are Hearing in the Judiciary Committee. stopped by the FBI that already had processed within 90 seconds. That hearing is the first step in the legisla- We must be constructive and proactive in tive process of addressing the epidemic. suspicions on not selling this firearm our response to the countless mass shootings Chief Acevedo was a witness at that hear- and could have went and taken that and gun violence in our country that continue ing, testifying that if the proposed legislation firearm, this is just a problem. to claim so many innocent lives. on background checks is enacted and saves I have laid out as much as I can. I Newly released data from the Centers for at least one life, then it is worth it. think the speakers have as well. There Disease Control and Prevention (‘‘CDC’’) Back in my state, despite incident after inci- are many opposed to this. They will found firearm-related deaths rose for the sec- dent of rampant gun violence, Texas Governor continue to be opposed to it, on both ond-straight year in 2016, largely due to Greg Abbott and Attorney General Ken sides of the spectrum, our side from the spikes in gun violence. Paxton, both prominent Republican opponents perspective of our rights and those that In 2016, the new CDC report on preliminary of gun control, issued the usual statements of- are being violated, and the ACLU for mortality data shows that there were more fering the usual thoughts and prayers. what their reasons may be and others. than 38,000 gun-related deaths in the U.S.— Chief Acevedo said, ‘‘I appreciate your pray- But it is time we had some honest 4,000 more than 2015. ers . . . but the question is, what are policy- discussion about what can actually An Associated Press analysis of FBI data makers willing to do, besides prayers, to ad- deter this mass violence that we are shows there were about 11,000 gun-related dress a public-health epidemic?’’ seeing. Unfortunately, Madam Chair, homicides in 2016, up from 9,600 in 2015. I want to answer his question—‘‘what ARE we always speak of mass violence. Congress must act to keep our country safe we going to do?’’ Why do we always have to go to the through gun safety and violence deterrence. We are going to overcome the fierce oppo- big violence? Why do we have to go to There is nearly one mass shooting per day sition from House minority members. the ones who were killed that are trag- in the United State—355 mass shootings in We are going to overcome a recalcitrant edies that we all see? What about the 2015. and reluctant Senate. ones that we can actually work on

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I Section 922(t)(1)(B)(ii) of title 18, United States Code is amended— fecting now? urge my colleagues to ignore all the (1) in paragraph (1)(B), by striking clause (ii) I think as we look forward, I would nonsense rhetoric about extraneous and inserting the following: ask that this, of course, be voted down. considerations. Join me in supporting ‘‘(ii) in the event the system has not notified I think we have laid out a reason why this bill today. Join me in supporting the licensee that the receipt of a firearm by such it at least should be considered by all saving lives. Join me in making the other person would violate subsection (g) or (n) Members before they put their card in United States a little safer to live in. of this section— ‘‘(I) not fewer than 10 business days (meaning that machine to decide why they are Madam Chair, I yield back the bal- a day on which State offices are open) has supporting a bill that we believe has ance of my time. elapsed since the licensee contacted the system, some obvious flaws to it. It is not the Ms. JOHNSON of Texas. I rise today to and the system has not notified the licensee that intent of the individual offering it, but voice my support for H.R. 1112, The En- the receipt of a firearm by such other person the actual words on paper have flaws in hanced Background Checks Act of 2019. This would violate subsection (g) or (n) of this sec- them. That is why we oppose this bill. bill will strengthen our federal gun background tion, and the other person has submitted, elec- tronically through a website established by the Madam Chair, I yield back the bal- check procedures by closing the ‘‘Charleston’’ ance of my time. Attorney General or by first-class mail, a peti- loophole, thus ensuring that guns can no tion for review which— Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I yield longer be erroneously sold due to incomplete ‘‘(aa) certifies that such other person has no myself such time as I may consume. background checks. reason to believe that such other person is pro- Madam Chair, this is an important This epidemic of gun violence has left its hibited by Federal, State, or local law from pur- bill that addresses a significant, and scars on my home state of Texas. A recent chasing or possessing a firearm; and tragically demonstrated, threat to pub- study by the Centers for Disease Control and ‘‘(bb) requests that the system respond to the lic safety. contact referred to in subparagraph (A) within Prevention revealed that there were 3,353 10 business days after the date the petition was Today is the 25th anniversary of the gun-related deaths in Texas in 2017 alone. implementation of the Brady Back- submitted (or, if the petition is submitted by Hundreds of these victims are children and first-class mail, the date the letter containing ground Check Act. This lifesaving law teenagers under 19 years of age. the petition is postmarked); and has served us well, helping to prevent Our country has struggled with gun violence ‘‘(II) 10 business days have elapsed since the firearms from getting into the hands of for too long, and the multitudes of loopholes in other person so submitted the petition, and the those who are legally prohibited from our laws are complicit in our difficulties. This system has not notified the licensee that the re- possessing and purchasing them. But ceipt of a firearm by such other person would bill will not only eliminate a significant loop- violate subsection (g) or (n) of this section; we know that some aspects of this law hole, but it will do so without infringing upon and the system that implements it and’’; and Second Amendment rights. It will ensure that (2) by adding at the end the following: must be updated and improved. only responsible and able individuals are able ‘‘(7) The Attorney General shall— Let’s remember what this bill does. to purchase guns in our country. ‘‘(A) prescribe the form on which a petition All this bill does is give the FBI addi- shall be submitted pursuant to paragraph I share our nation’s concerns about the tional time—gives the NICS system ad- (1)(B)(ii); widespread proliferation of guns in our neigh- ditional time—to complete a back- ‘‘(B) make the form available electronically, borhoods, and I agree that reasonable restric- ground check in the 8 or 9 percent of and provide a copy of the form to all licensees tions on firearms are essential to a com- referred to in paragraph (1); cases where it is not done within 90 prehensive strategy to reduce crime and vio- ‘‘(C) provide the petitioner and the licensee seconds. If you haven’t gotten a back- lence in our society. We must take sensible involved written notice of receipt of the petition, ground check back in 3 days, under this steps to ensure that these firearms do not fall either electronically or by first-class mail; and bill, you can’t get it automatically, ‘‘(D) respond on an expedited basis to any into the wrong hands. and you can’t get the weapon auto- such petition received by the Attorney Gen- matically. Furthermore, it has come to my attention eral.’’. They have 10 days to do it. If after 10 that the mental illness reference in this bill SEC. 3. NEW TERMINOLOGY FOR THOSE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS. days they still haven’t done it, then may be outdated and not in line with current medical and legal standards. I will be review- Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, is you can petition the Attorney General. amended in each of subsections (d)(4) and (g)(4) And if they still don’t do it, get your ing this issue as we progress through the 116th Congress. by striking ‘‘adjudicated as a mental defective’’ firearm within 10 days. That will save and inserting ‘‘adjudicated with mental illness, a lot of lives. I urge my colleagues to support this bill. severe developmental disability, or severe emo- We hear about mass shootings, but The Acting CHAIR. All time for gen- tional instability’’. we also should remember that we are eral debate has expired. The Acting CHAIR. No further not talking about just mass shootings. Pursuant to the rule, the bill shall be amendment to the bill, as amended, Thirty-four people a day are killed in considered for amendment under the 5- shall be in order except those printed this country by guns—34 a day. Every minute rule. in part B of House Report 116–14. Each other industrialized country in the In lieu of the amendment in the na- such further amendment may be of- world: 90 deaths with guns a year, 120, ture of a substitute recommended by fered only in the order printed in the 170. The United States: 39,000. the Committee on the Judiciary, print- report, by a Member designated in the How are we different? Are we thou- ed in the bill, an amendment in the na- report, shall be considered read, shall sands of times more mentally ill than ture of a substitute consisting of the be debatable for the time specified in people in Europe or Japan? No. text of Rules Committee Print 116–6 is the report, equally divided and con- Are we more vicious? No. adopted. The bill, as amended, shall be trolled by the proponent and an oppo- Are our habits more degraded? No. considered as an original bill for the nent, shall not be subject to amend- The difference is that this country is purpose of further amendment under ment, and shall not be subject to a de- awash in guns. The difference is that, the 5-minute rule and shall be consid- mand for division of the question. in this country, people who are dan- ered as read. AMENDMENT NO. 1 OFFERED BY MR. RICE OF gerous can get guns. The text of the bill, as amended, is as SOUTH CAROLINA These are modest steps. We should follows: The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order take much more advanced steps. We H.R. 1112 to consider amendment No. 1 printed in should ban assault weapons. We should Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Rep- part B of House Report 116–14. ban large capacity magazine clips. But resentatives of the United States of America in Mr. RICE of South Carolina. Madam we are not doing that. We are starting Congress assembled, Chair, I have an amendment at the with very moderate steps. SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. desk. This is a very moderate step to im- This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Enhanced The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will prove the background check system. Background Checks Act of 2019’’. designate the amendment.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:09 Mar 01, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K28FE7.016 H28FEPT1 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HOUSE February 28, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H2285 The text of the amendment is as fol- him the right to buy the gun. This N- Prevention Act that were submitted pursu- lows: DEx system contained that informa- ant to subclause (I) of section 922(t)(1)(B)(ii) Page 3, after line 23, insert the following: tion, and it is maintained by the FBI. of title 18, United States Code, with respect SEC. l. REQUIREMENT THAT THE NICS SYSTEM All they had to do was allow this back- to which a determination was not made within the 10-day period referred to in sub- SEARCH THE NATIONAL DATA EX- ground checker to look at that. The CHANGE DATABASE IN CONDUCTING clause (II) of such section. FBI has admitted had they been able to BACKGROUND CHECKS. The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to Section 922(t) of title 18, United States do that, this man—this monster— House Resolution 145, the gentleman Code, a amended by section 2 of this Act, is would never have been able to buy a amended by adding at the end the following: gun. from Illinois (Mr. SCHNEIDER) and a ‘‘(8) The national instant criminal back- My amendment would actually fix Member opposed each will control 5 ground check system established under sec- the Charleston loophole. The problem minutes. tion 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence Pre- is that I cannot support the underlying The Chair recognizes the gentleman vention Act shall search the database of the from Illinois. National Data Exchange in conducting a legislation. Why? Because it creates an undue amount of time to be able to buy Mr. SCHNEIDER. Madam Chair, I background check pursuant to this section.’’. rise in support of my amendment to The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to a gun. And number two, the thing that H.R. 1112, the Enhanced Background House Resolution 145, the gentleman Checks Act of 2019, and I applaud the from South Carolina (Mr. RICE) and a bothers me the most, is that it shifts a part of the burden to the American cit- gentleman from South Carolina (Mr. Member opposed each will control 5 CLYBURN), my good friend, for his lead- minutes. izen trying to exercise his Second Amendment rights. It requires him, in ership and enduring commitment to re- The Chair recognizes the gentleman ducing gun violence and making our from South Carolina. the event that you don’t hear back from the government, to file a petition communities safer. I also appreciate Mr. RICE of South Carolina. Madam my friend from Texas, SHEILA JACKSON Chair, Dylann Roof is a monster. with the Federal court. I think this is an undue interference with his Second LEE, for her leadership on this issue as Dylann Roof should never have been well. able to buy a gun. Dylann Roof walked Amendment right; therefore, I cannot accept this underlying legislation. Madam Chair, it is unconscionable to into a church in my hometown of think that convicted felons, domestic Charleston, South Carolina, my birth- The Senate has indicated it will not be taken up in the Senate; and the abusers, and others who are prohibited place of Charleston, South Carolina, by law from purchasing a firearm could and he slaughtered nine people in a President has indicated that, if it passed, he would veto it. Therefore, I end up with these weapons anyway. Bible study. I can’t imagine a more Sadly, this is the reality we currently horrific crime. We all, naturally, look plan to withdraw my amendment. I plan to offer it separately as a new live in due to the default proceed sales, for a response. also known as the Charleston loophole. My friend, Mr. CLYBURN, and the ma- piece of legislation, which will, in fact, close the Charleston loophole. It will I have introduced legislation on this jority have noted that thousands of problem in the past because we must people have wrongfully acquired guns allow the FBI background checkers to search the most current N-DEx file do everything we can to ensure fire- because of the failure of our back- arms do not end up in the hands of ground check system under what has that has all this detailed information that was created after 9/11, well after those who should not have them. This become known as the Charleston loop- is why I am also a cosponsor of Mr. hole. the background check law came into CLYBURN’s Enhanced Background The stated purpose of this underlying effect. Checks Act. legislation, Mr. CLYBURN’s legislation, The FBI has admitted, it would have The FBI should and, in fact, needs to is certainly noble: to close the Charles- prevented Dylann Roof from buying a know if a default proceeds sale has ton loophole. The only problem is that gun and, I suspect, many of the other taken place. Currently, this is not the it does not carry out that purpose. people who have carried out these hor- case unless the FBI eventually com- Too often here, we take up noble rific shootings in recent years. pletes a background check, determines causes; we create legislation with noble It will hopefully garner the bipar- the purchaser should be prohibited names; we pass this legislation to feel tisan support necessary to actually be- from owning a firearm, and subse- better; but the legislation fails to solve come law and fix the underlying prob- quently contacts the dealer. the problem in the title. lem. We need more information through- After these horrific murders, the Madam Chair, I ask unanimous con- out this process, and my amendment families of the victims sued the Fed- sent to withdraw the amendment. would do just that: require the FBI to eral Government for allowing this The Acting CHAIR. Is there objection report on the number of background monster to buy a gun. to the request of the gentleman from South Carolina? checks that they are not able to com- b 1015 There was no objection. plete within the designated time pe- Charleston Federal District Court The Acting CHAIR. The amendment riod. Judge Gergen wrote a lengthy opinion is withdrawn. This information will help keep in which he laid bare the Federal back- AMENDMENT NO. 2 OFFERED BY MR. SCHNEIDER track of the FBI’s ability to clear ground check process and its failures in The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order background checks in a timely manner this case, the case of Dylann Roof. His to consider amendment No. 2 printed in as well as give better understanding of opinion is available for anybody to part B of House Report 116–14. where there is still room for improve- read. Mr. SCHNEIDER. Madam Chair, I ment. It will also provide much-needed And in his 22-page opinion, he lays have an amendment at the desk. transparency to the default proceed out the various structural flaws in the The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will process. background check system. Most nota- designate the amendment. All who support commonsense solu- bly, that the FBI maintains four crimi- The text of the amendment is as fol- tions to reduce the gun violence epi- nal databases. And under the back- lows: demic in this country should support this amendment and the underlying ground check system, the background Page 3, after line 16, insert the following: checker is allowed to check only three legislation. I encourage my colleagues SEC. 3. REPORTS ON PETITIONS SUPPORTING of those. FIREARM TRANSFERS NOT IMME- to vote ‘‘yes.’’ Why? I assume because those are the DIATELY APPROVED BY NICS SYS- Madam Chair, I yield 2 minutes to three that existed in the nineties when TEM, THAT WERE NOT RESPONDED the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. TO IN A TIMELY MANNER. the background check came into place. JACKSON LEE), my dear friend and a There is a fourth one. It is more ex- The Director of the Federal Bureau of In- tireless champion and leader on the ef- vestigation shall make an annual report to tensive and it is more detailed. It is the public on the number of petitions re- forts to reduce gun violence. called N-DEx. In this file was all the ceived by the national instant criminal Ms. JACKSON LEE. Madam Chair, I information that Dylann Roof’s back- background check system established under thank the gentleman very much, and I ground checker needed to know to deny section 103 of the Brady Handgun Violence thank him for his leadership on a very

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Northern Illinois University, Dekalb, Il- I think Mr. SCHNEIDER knows that ing the eligibility of the transferee to possess linois—February 2008: 5 Dead why we are here on the floor is to save a firearm within the 10-day period allotted by 19. Atlantis Plastics Shooting, Henderson lives, to be able to protect innocent H.R. 1112. Kentucky—June 2008: 5 Dead people from being subjected to what I urge my colleagues to support the Schnei- 20. Carthage Nursing Home Shooting— the Emanuel Nine were: worshippers in der/Jackson Lee Amendment because, with Carthage, North Carolina—March 2009: 8 Dead a church with their pastor, praying, as this critical data and compliance reporting, we 21. Geneva County Massacre, Geneva and this country allows one to do. can learn more about legislative interstices like Samson, Alabama—March 2009: 10 Dead It is my belief that the Schneider- the one that enabled Dylan Roof to possess 22. Binghampton Shootings, Jackson Lee amendment should be the handgun used to murder 9 innocent per- Binghampton—April 2009: 13 Dead passed, because with this critical data sons at Mother Emanuel A.M.E. Church in 23. Fort Hood Shooting, Fort Hood, Texas— and compliance reporting we can learn Charleston, South Carolina, as well as the nu- November 2009: 13 Dead more about legislative injustices like merous other cases where a firearm was 24. Hartford Beer Distributor Shooting, the one that enabled Dylann Roof to Manchester, Connecticut—August 2010: 8 handed over to an unintended and potentially Dead process a handgun used to murder the dangerous recipient. 25. Tucson Shooting, Tucson, Arizona— nine innocent persons at Mother Eman- Making sure that policy makers have the January 2011: 6 Dead uel AME Church in Charleston, South most accurate, reliable, and current data re- 26. Seal Beach Shooting, Seal Beach, Cali- Carolina, and to remind everybody he garding background checks is one of the main fornia—October 2011: 8 Dead had not been approved by the NICS re- reasons I introduced the Accidental Firearms 27. Oikos University, Oakland, California— porting system, and he was able to Transfers Reporting Act in the 114th and April 2012: 7 Dead ´ come back. This system allows us to 115th Congress (H.R. 3125 and H.R. 57 re- 28. Seattle Cafe Shooting, Seattle, Wash- ington—May 2012: 5 Dead know how many have not been ap- spectively). 29. Aurora Shooting, Aurora, Colorado— proved, to be able to address the ques- Madam Chair, if anything, it is gun violence July 2012: 12 Dead tion, to have better policies dealing that is a national emergency, and reducing 30. Sikh Temple Shooting, Oak Creek, Wis- with protecting gun violence. gun violence should be one of Congress’s consin—August 2012: 6 Dead It is my privilege to join my col- highest priorities. 31. Accent Signage Systems Shooting, Min- league in supporting the Schneider- The Schneider/Jackson Lee Amendment will neapolis, Minnesota—September 2012: 6 Dead Jackson Lee amendment. help to do that. 32. Sandy Hook Elementary School, New- I ask my colleagues to support the Schnei- town, Connecticut—December 2012: 27 Dead Madam Chair, I close by saying that 33. Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, this tracks the Accidental Firearms der/Jackson Lee Amendment in order. California—June 2013: 5 Dead Transfer Reporting Act that I intro- Again, I thank Majority Whip CLYBURN for in- 34. Hialeah Shooting, Hialeah, Florida— duced in previous Congresses in H.R. troducing the underlying legislation and Con- July 2013: 6 Dead 3125 and H.R. 57. gressman SCHNEIDER for his work on this salu- 35. Washington Navy Yard Shooting, Wash- I look forward to working with my tary amendment. ington D.C.—September 2013: 12 Dead colleague as we expand reasonable gun I urge all Members to support the Schnei- 36. University of California Santa Barbara, safety legislation to protect our chil- der/Jackson Lee Amendment. Isla Vista, California—May 2014: 6 Dead dren, our families, and Americans. [Feb. 20, 2018] 37. Marysville Pilchuck High School, Madam Chair, I rise in strong support of this LIST OF MASS SHOOTINGS SINCE COLUMBINE Marysville, Washington—October 2014: 4 amendment which I am proud to cosponsor MASSACRE Dead with the gentleman from Illinois, Congressman (By Zayed Abdalla) 38. Charleston Church Shooting, Charles- BRAD SCHNEIDER. Below is a list of all mass shootings in the ton, South Carolina—June 2015: 9 Dead I thank the Rules Committee for making the United States which occurred after the Col- 39. Chattanooga Military Recruitment Cen- Schneider/Jackson Lee Amendment in order umbine High School Massacre. Dates and ter, Chattanooga Tennessee—July 2015: 5 death tolls (excluding the shooter) are in- Dead and thank the Majority Whip for introducing 40. Umpqua Community College, Roseburg, cluded. Although many other mass shootings the underlying legislation, H.R. 1112, the ‘‘En- Oregon—October 2015: 9 Dead have occurred, for the sake of time and phys- hanced Background Checks Act of 2019.’’ 41. San Bernardino Attack, San ical space, only shootings involving the H.R. 1112, the ‘‘Enhanced Background Bernardino, California—December 2015: 14 death of five or more people have been in- Dead Checks Act of 2019,’’ would strengthen the cluded in this article. 42. Kalamazoo Shooting Spree, Kalamazoo background check procedures that firearms li- 1. Columbine High School Shooting, Little- County, Michigan—February 2016: 6 Dead censees or dealers follow before selling or ton, Colorado—April 1999: 13 Dead 43. Orlando Night-club Shooting, Orlando, transferring a firearm. 2. Atlanta Shootings, Atlanta, Georgia— Florida—June 2016: 49 Dead As under current law, firearms dealers July 1999: 12 Dead 3. Wedgwood Baptist Church shooting, Fort 44. Dallas Police Shooting, Dallas Texas— would be required to run a background check July 2016: 5 Dead on prospective buyers using the National In- Worth, Texas—September 1999: 7 Dead 4. Xerox Killings, Honolulu, Hawaii—No- 45. Cascade Mall Shooting, Burlington, stant Criminal Background Check System vember 1999: 7 Dead Washington—September 2016: 5 Dead (‘‘NICS’’). 5. Tampa Hotel Shootings, Tampa, Flor- 46. Fort Lauderdale Airport Shooting, Fort Over 90% of NICS checks are completed ida—December 1999: 5 Dead Lauderdale, Florida—January 2017: 5 Dead within 90 seconds. 6. Wakefield Massacre, Wakefield, Massa- 47. Las Vegas Shooting, Las Vegas, Ne- If the NICS system has not returned an an- chusetts—December 2000: 7 Dead vada—October 2017: 58 Dead 48. Sutherland Springs Church, Sutherland swer to the licensed firearms dealer within ten 7. Lockheed Martin Shooting, Median, Mis- sissippi—July 2003: 6 Dead Springs, Texas—November 2017: 26 Dead days, the prospective firearms purchaser may 49. Rancho Tehama Shooting, Rancho file a petition with the Attorney General for re- 8. Living Church of God Shooting, Brook- field, Wisconsin—March 2005: 7 Dead Tehama, California—November 2017: 5 Dead view. 9. Red Lake High School, Red Lake Indian 50. Marjory Stoneman Douglas High Then, after another ten-day period has ex- Reservation, Minnesota—March 2005: 9 Dead School, Parkland, Florida—February 2018: 17 pired, the licensed firearms dealer may sell or 10. Goleta Postal Shootings, Goleta, Cali- Dead transfer the firearm to the prospective pur- fornia—January 2006: 7 Dead Mr. SCHNEIDER. Madam Chair, I chaser if it has not received a response 11. Capitol Hill Massacre, Seattle Wash- yield 1 minute to the gentleman from through the NICS system and the dealer has ington—March 2006: 6 Dead New York (Mr. NADLER), chairman of no reason to believe that the purchaser is pro- 12. West Nickel Mines Amish School, Nick- the committee. el Mines, Pennsylvania—October 2006: 5 Dead hibited from obtaining a firearm under federal, 13. Tolley Square Shooting, Salt Lake Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I thank state, or local law. City, Utah—February 2007: 5 Dead the gentleman for yielding. Under this measure, licensed firearms deal- 14. Virginia Tech University, Blacksburg, I support this amendment, which re- ers could not sell or transfer under the ‘‘default Virginia—April 2007: 32 Dead quires the FBI to report on the number

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Pursuant to eastern Oakland Counties sent me here sessing the guns. House Resolution 145, the gentleman on a mission, and that mission includes The goal of this bill is to do just from Michigan (Mr. LEVIN) and a Mem- protecting our communities from that, and to allow individuals whose ber opposed each will control 5 min- senseless gun violence. checks take longer than 10 days to utes. I stand today in solidarity with the complete the opportunity to petition The Chair recognizes the gentleman courageous people of Michigan’s Ninth for their case to be reviewed within an- from Michigan. Congressional District’s Moms Demand other 10-day period. Mr. LEVIN of Michigan. Madam Action and Students Demand Action. Madam Chair, the report required by Chairwoman, I am proud to cosponsor We have a responsibility as Members this amendment will help us oversee the Enhanced Background Checks Act, of Congress and as human beings not the implementation of this new process H.R. 1112, and I am also proud today to just to talk about the horrors of gun and the changes instituted by this law. present an amendment that will make violence, but to do everything in our I urge my colleagues to support this sure we can track and learn from the powers to end it. Today, we will take salutary amendment. good that this bill will accomplish once the critically necessary step to do just Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam it becomes law. that. Chair, I claim the time in opposition. In 2017, 39,773 Americans died from I would like to thank Congressman The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is gun violence. This is a public health JIM CLYBURN, PETER KING, and JOE recognized for 5 minutes. epidemic. CUNNINGHAM for their leadership to en- Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam Under current law, if a background sure that we close the Charleston loop- Chair, I reserve the balance of my check is not completed within 3 busi- hole. I urge my colleagues to support time. ness days, a federally licensed firearm H.R. 1112 and support this amendment. Mr. SCHNEIDER. Madam Chair, does dealer may move forward with a fire- Madam Chair, I yield 1 minute to the the gentleman from Georgia have any arms transfer or sale. gentleman from New York (Mr. NAD- speakers on this issue? The devastating reality is that many LER), the chairman of the House Judi- Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. To the good horrific acts of gun violence, including ciary Committee. gentleman, I do not. the massacre of the Emanuel Meth- b 1030 Mr. SCHNEIDER. Madam Chair, I odist Church in Charleston, South yield back the balance of my time. Carolina, which ended nine lives and Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I thank Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam left several people wounded, could have the gentleman for yielding. Chair, I yield back the balance of my been avoided. I support this amendment to require time. Today, we will vote to close the loop- the GAO to submit a report to the rel- The Acting CHAIR. The question is hole that allowed for that tragedy by evant congressional committees ana- on the amendment offered by the gen- closing what has become known as the lyzing the extent to which the addi- tleman from Illinois (Mr. SCHNEIDER). Charleston loophole. The Enhanced tions required by this bill prevent fire- The question was taken; and the Act- Background Checks Act will provide arms from being transferred to prohib- ing Chair announced that the ayes ap- the background check system with ad- ited persons. peared to have it. ditional time to make a final deter- It will be important for us to get in- Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I de- mination on a potential firearm pur- formation about the implementation of mand a recorded vote. chaser before a licensed dealer can the law and its impact on so-called de- The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to transfer a gun. fault proceed transactions. The amend- clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- We have an obligation to the Amer- ment also requires that the GAO report ceedings on the amendment offered by ican people and to the victims of the its findings after 90 days and again the gentleman from Illinois will be shooter at the AME church to pass the after 1 year, 3 years, and 5 years. postponed. bill before us today, and I am proud to I think it is always a good idea to ac- tually track the effect of new legisla- AMENDMENT NO. 3 OFFERED BY MR. LEVIN OF be part of this effort to protect our MICHIGAN communities from gun violence. tion and see how effective it is. The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order My amendment to H.R. 1112 will re- Madam Chair, I urge my colleagues to consider amendment No. 3 printed in quire the Government Accountability to join me in supporting this amend- part B of House Report 116–14. Office to submit a report to Congress 1 ment, and I commend the sponsor for Mr. LEVIN of Michigan. Madam year, 3 years, and 5 years following the doing so. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam Chair, I have an amendment at the implementation of this law. These re- Chair, I claim the time in opposition. desk. ports will analyze the extent to which The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will the changes made by this law will pre- recognized for 5 minutes. designate the amendment. vent firearms from being transferred to Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam The text of the amendment is as fol- prohibited persons. Chair, I reserve the balance of my lows: I am proud that this amendment has time. Page 3, after line 16, insert the following: broad support from all stakeholders that have been involved in making this Mr. LEVIN of Michigan. Madam SEC. 3. GAO REPORTS. bill a reality. Chair, I yield back the balance of my Within 90 days after the end of each of the time. 1-year, 3-year, and 5-year periods that begin We must strive for effective, evi- with the effective date of this Act, the Comp- dence-based policies that promote pub- Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam troller General of the United States shall lic health and protect our commu- Chair, I yield back the balance of my prepare and submit to the Committee on the nities. My amendment will cost us time. Judiciary of the House of Representatives nothing, but it will help build the evi- The Acting CHAIR. The question is and the Committee on the Judiciary of the dence base around the effectiveness of on the amendment offered by the gen- Senate a written report analyzing the extent good gun violence prevention policies tleman from Michigan (Mr. LEVIN). to which, during the respective period, para- The amendment was agreed to. graphs (1)(B)(ii) and (7) of section 922(t) of like this one. AMENDMENT NO. 4 OFFERED BY MS. PORTER title 18, United States Code, have prevented This amendment is all the more im- firearms from being transferred to prohib- portant, given the regrettable lack of The Acting CHAIR. It is now in order ited persons, which report shall include but Federal funding for gun violence re- to consider amendment No. 4 printed in not be limited to the following— search. My amendment will finally part B of House Report 116–14.

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Within 150 days after the date of the enact- make those changes. The Acting CHAIR. The Clerk will ment of this Act, the Attorney General, in Madam Chair, I yield 2 minutes to designate the amendment. consultation with the National Resource the gentlewoman from Wisconsin (Ms. The text of the amendment is as fol- Center on Domestic Violence and Firearms, lows: shall submit to the Congress a report ana- MOORE). Ms. MOORE. Madam Chair, let me Page 3, line 16, strike the close quotation lyzing the effect, if any, of this Act on the marks and the following period. safety of victims of domestic violence, do- thank the gentlewoman for offering Page 3, after line 16, insert the following: mestic abuse, dating partner violence, sexual this amendment, along with our other ‘‘(8)(A) If, after 3 business days have assault, and stalking, and whether any fur- colleagues, to H.R. 1112 that would sim- elapsed since the licensee initially contacted ther amendments to the background check ply require the Department of Justice the system about a firearm transaction, the process, including amendments to the condi- system notifies the licensee that the receipt tions that must be met under this Act for a to release a report analyzing the effect of this bill’s provisions on the safety of of a firearm by such other person would not firearm to be transferred when the system violate subsection (g) or (n), the licensee has not notified the licensee that such trans- the victims of domestic violence, do- may continue to rely on that notification for fer would not violate subsection (g) or (n) of mestic abuse, dating partner violence, the longer of— section 922 of title 18, United States Code, sexual assault, and stalking. ‘‘(i) an additional 25 calendar days after would likely result in a reduction in the risk Madam Chairwoman, I am here on the licensee receives the notification; or of death or great bodily harm to victims of the floor today with the hopes that my ‘‘(ii) 30 calendar days after the date of the domestic violence, domestic abuse, dating colleagues will listen to the 10 million initial contact. partner violence, sexual assault, and stalk- men, women, and children who experi- ‘‘(B) If such other person has met the re- ing. quirements of paragraph (1)(B)(ii) before the ence domestic violence each year. Do- The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to system destroys the records related to the House Resolution 145, the gentlewoman mestic violence is a horrible scourge, firearm transaction, the licensee may con- and the presence or possession of a gun from California (Ms. PORTER) and a tinue to rely on such other person having Member opposed each will control 5 only worsens these tragedies. met the requirements for an additional 25 calendar days after the date such other per- minutes. You heard my colleague, Representa- tive PORTER, say that women are five son first met the requirements.’’. The Chair recognizes the gentle- Page 3, after line 23, insert the following: woman from California. times more likely to die or be killed in a domestic violence situation if a gun SEC. l. EFFECTIVE DATE. Ms. PORTER. Madam Chair, I yield This Act and the amendments made by myself 3 minutes. is owned, which is one of the reasons, this Act shall take effect 210 days after the Madam Chair, when we discuss the Madam Chair, I have introduced legis- date of the enactment of this Act. epidemic of gun violence in our coun- lation to help incentivize States to The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to try, we must confront the issues of do- adopt laws that ensure that we do ev- House Resolution 145, the gentleman mestic violence, domestic abuse, dat- erything to take guns from those with from New Jersey (Mr. VAN DREW) and a ing partner violence, sexual assault, a court restraining order or other pro- Member opposed each will control 5 and stalking. tective order. minutes. According to the National Task I hope, Madam Chair, that my col- The Chair recognizes the gentleman Force to End Sexual and Domestic Vio- leagues will listen to the one in three from New Jersey. lence, firearms pose a significant dan- women and one in four men who have Mr. VAN DREW. Madam Chair, I ger to victims of domestic violence, been victims of intimate partner vio- yield myself such time as I may con- and this is true no matter who owns lence. I sure hope that my colleagues sume. the firearm. Research shows that a will listen to me as one of the 4.5 mil- My amendment will ensure that from male abuser’s access to a firearm in- lion women who have experienced gun the date a firearm purchase is legally creases the risk of intimate partner violence firsthand. authorized under the bill, the firearm femicide fivefold and does not support There is much discussion in these purchaser has 25 calendar days to pick the contention that firearm possession Chambers about a national emergency. up their gun, regardless of how much is a protective factor for the victim. Gun violence and domestic violence are time has elapsed since the background The fact is, prohibited buyers who a national emergency, and that is why check was first initiated. obtain a firearm through the Charles- we have offered this amendment so This would prevent a situation under ton loophole are disproportionately that our laws actually reflect the reali- the bill as it is written that, although likely to be prohibited because of do- ties. rare, would still be possible, where the mestic violence. Indeed, in 2017, 23 per- The data collected will be critical to maximum allowable number of busi- cent of cases where a gun was trans- inform Congress about ways to prevent ness days, 20 business days, that a pur- ferred to a prohibited purchaser needless tragedies in our country, and chaser would have to wait for an ap- through a default proceed sale involved to help us evolve in a way that will proval could actually run longer, hypo- a person prohibited due to a conviction more accurately protect our constitu- thetically, than the 30 days. for domestic violence, or prohibited ents. That would be problematic because due to a domestic violence restraining Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam under a current ATF, Bureau of Alco- order. Chair, I claim the time in opposition. hol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Denials related to domestic violence The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is regulation, a gun cannot be transferred often require more investigation than recognized for 5 minutes. after 30 days once a background check denials based on other factors. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam begins. I am offering this amendment so that Chair, I reserve the balance of my Where more than 30 calendar days this bill’s background check process, time. have passed since the licensee first before it goes into effect, Congress can Ms. PORTER. Madam Chair, I yield contacted NICS, the National Instant hear from experts in the Justice De- back the balance of my time. Criminal Background Check System, partment and at the National Resource Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam the licensee must initiate a new NICS Center on Domestic Violence and Fire- Chair, I yield back the balance of my check prior to transferring the firearm. arms on whether any changes could be time. My amendment would prevent an un- made to better protect victims of do- The Acting CHAIR. The question is necessary background check do-over. mestic violence. on the amendment offered by the gen- For those who get approved by the This amendment requires the study tlewoman from California (Ms. POR- FBI after 3 business days, my amend- on domestic violence to be completed TER). ment would essentially nullify the 30

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:55 Mar 01, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00014 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K28FE7.027 H28FEPT1 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HOUSE February 28, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H2289 days ATF regulation, allowing prospec- Mr. VAN DREW. Madam Chair- amendment we offered that simply ex- tive firearm owners the peace of mind woman, I would just again emphasize tended it for 60 days. That is your fix. that they do deserve. that this is 25 days after the approval, Instead, we go through this where After this bill went through the Judi- and also that law supersedes regula- there can be, as all good things ciary Committee, the point was raised tion. There is no question that that 25 lawyerly, we can have lawyerly dis- that an existing ATF regulation, if left days would be in place and that would agreements. I think in the end, when unchanged, could result in a situation give more than a sufficient amount of you actually go back and look at this, where even after a background check time, in fact, a lenient amount of time, you will see that there is an interpreta- was approved or a petition process was just to ensure that there aren’t any tion problem here. The 30 days still ex- followed, the lawful gun buyer would problems here. ists. still not be able to get the gun without Madam Chair, I yield 1 minute to the Why could we have not just simply doing a second background check be- gentleman from New York (Mr. NAD- extended the NICS date for 60 days in- cause too much time had elapsed since LER), the chairman, to speak in favor of stead of 30 days instead of going the first background check began. this amendment. through this exercise of legal interpre- This is clearly not the intent of the Mr. NADLER. Madam Chair, I thank tation? bill, and while I believe that ATF the gentleman for yielding. Madam Chair, I yield back the bal- would amend the regulation if this bill I rise in support of this amendment, ance of my time. is passed, this amendment removes all and this completely takes care of Mr. Mr. VAN DREW. Madam Chair, I ask doubt. Anyone who is legally author- COLLINS’ concern, whether he realizes unanimous consent to reclaim my ized to obtain a firearm under the new it or not. Because this says that the time. process will have ample time, 25 days, transfer can take place for 25 days Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Objection. to return to the dealer and retrieve the after the transfer becomes legally per- The Acting CHAIR. Objection is gun. missible. Madam Chair, I reserve the balance heard. In other words, under the longest The question is on the amendment of my time. timeframe, the background check Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam offered by the gentleman from New doesn’t come back within 10 days. The Chair, I claim the time in opposition. Jersey (Mr. VAN DREW). The Acting CHAIR. The gentleman is purchaser waits a few days, and then The question was taken; and the Act- recognized for 5 minutes. petitions the attorney general. It takes ing Chair announced that the ayes ap- Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam another 10 days. Then it becomes le- peared to have it. Chair, I appreciate the gentleman here gally permissible. Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam on this. It is good to fix this. But the This says the transfer can take place Chair, I demand a recorded vote. only problem is, it doesn’t fix it—I for 25 days after that. So there is no The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to think that is the problem that we are way that this doesn’t take care of the clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- looking at—as written. As we discussed problem that Mr. COLLINS raised, and ceedings on the amendment offered by earlier, your amendment claims to pre- then some. the gentleman from New Jersey will be vent this endless loop, but it fails to do The current procedures in place do postponed. not take into account the longer wait- so. ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIR Per ATF regulation, a NICS check is ing period in the petition process that only valid for 30 calendar days from H.R. 1112 requires. This amendment The Acting CHAIR. Pursuant to when the NICS is initially contacted. more than takes care of that. It is a clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings now This language does not extend the salutary amendment. It makes the sys- will resume on those amendments timeframe in the event of a delayed re- tem work, and I can’t understand any- printed in part B of House Report 116– sponse, nor does it direct the attorney body, whether they support the bill or 14 on which further proceedings were general to do so. not, who wouldn’t want to support this, postponed, in the following order: So if the purchaser completes the so I support the amendment. Amendment No. 2 by Mr. SCHNEIDER three-step process under H.R. 1112, then Mr. VAN DREW. Madam Chair, I of Illinois. attempts to take possession of the fire- thank the chairman, and just as a cou- Amendment No. 5 by Mr. VAN DREW arm on calendar day 31, ATF regula- ple of other points, on a personal level, of New Jersey. tions would suggest it is too late. The I have always been a supporter of Sec- The Chair will reduce to 2 minutes NICS check has expired, and as a re- ond Amendment rights and continue to the minimum time for any electronic sult, the federally licensed firearms be. The purpose of this amendment is vote after the first vote in this series. dealer would need to conduct a new to, obviously, do so, support Second AMENDMENT NO. 2 OFFERED BY MR. SCHNEIDER NICS check while restarting the proc- Amendment rights. The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished ess. b 1045 business is the demand for a recorded Madam Chair, I did offer an amend- vote on the amendment offered by the ment to extend the validity of the Secondly, I know that there is lan- gentleman from Illinois (Mr. SCHNEI- NICS check to 60 days to cure this defi- guage in another part of the bill that DER) on which further proceedings were ciency, however, the Democrats refused many people have asked me about postponed and on which the ayes pre- to make my amendment in order. For which is not something that I am vailed by voice vote. that reason, I am glad that the gen- amending or had to do with, but I know The Clerk will redesignate the tleman is trying to fix this, which is that there is a commitment from lead- amendment. where it should be, but it just doesn’t ership that that language is going to be The Clerk redesignated the amend- fix it. completely redone and that language ment. So we are again searching for an will be totally appropriate and actually RECORDED VOTE amendment and solution to a problem will be a major improvement. The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote that could have been fixed, but this Madam Chair, I yield back the bal- has been demanded. amendment does not fix it. I am glad ance of my time. A recorded vote was ordered. the gentleman brought the amendment Mr. COLLINS of Georgia. Madam and in the plain reading of the statute Chair, I appreciate my chairman, but I The vote was taken by electronic de- and the plain reading of this amend- disagree, because there is still the 30- vice, and there were—ayes 282, noes 144, ment, this is a great attempt. It just day limitation. The 30-day limitation not voting 11, as follows: falls short. is not done here, and so there is and [Roll No. 100] For that reason, I would urge my col- could be a problem if it was done. I still AYES—282 leagues to vote against this amend- have my time, and there is no time re- Adams Barraga´ n Blumenauer ment because it does not actually fix maining. Aguilar Bass Blunt Rochester The issue here is that if it is ap- Allred Beatty Bonamici the problem we outlined earlier. Arrington Bera Bost Madam Chair, I reserve the balance proved after the 30 days, then this bill Axne Beyer Boyle, Brendan of my time. does not fix it. The easy fix here was an Bacon Bishop (GA) F.

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Blunt Rochester Heck Perlmutter Carbajal Houlahan Price (NC) Cole Jordan Rogers (AL) Bonamici Higgins (NY) Peters Ca´ rdenas Hoyer Quigley Comer Joyce (PA) Rogers (KY) Boyle, Brendan Hill (CA) Phillips Carson (IN) Hudson Raskin Conaway Kelly (MS) Rose, John W. F. Himes Pingree Cartwright Huffman Rice (NY) Cook Kelly (PA) Rouzer Brindisi Horn, Kendra S. Pocan Case Huizenga Rice (SC) Crawford King (IA) Roy Brown (MD) Horsford Porter Casten (IL) Jackson Lee Richmond Crenshaw Kustoff (TN) Rutherford Brownley (CA) Houlahan Pressley Castor (FL) Jayapal Rooney (FL) Davidson (OH) LaHood Scalise Bustos Hoyer Price (NC) Castro (TX) Jeffries Rose (NY) DesJarlais LaMalfa Schweikert Butterfield Huffman Quigley Chu, Judy Johnson (GA) Rouda Duffy Lamborn Scott, Austin Carbajal Jackson Lee Raskin Cicilline Johnson (TX) Roybal-Allard Duncan Latta Sensenbrenner Ca´ rdenas Jayapal Rice (NY) Cisneros Joyce (OH) Ruiz Dunn Lesko Simpson Carson (IN) Jeffries Richmond Clark (MA) Kaptur Ruppersberger Emmer Long Smith (MO) Cartwright Johnson (GA) Rose (NY) Clarke (NY) Keating Rush Estes Loudermilk Smith (NE) Case Johnson (TX) Rouda Clay Kelly (IL) Ryan Ferguson Lucas Smucker Casten (IL) Kaptur Roybal-Allard Cleaver Kennedy Sablan Fleischmann Luetkemeyer Spano Castor (FL) Keating Ruiz Clyburn Khanna Sa´ nchez Fulcher Marshall Steube Castro (TX) Kelly (IL) Ruppersberger Cohen Kildee Sarbanes Gaetz Massie Stewart Chu, Judy Kennedy Rush Collins (GA) Kilmer Scanlon Gianforte McCarthy Thompson (PA) Cicilline Khanna Ryan Collins (NY) Kim Schakowsky Gibbs McCaul Thornberry Cisneros Kildee Sablan Connolly Kind Schiff Gooden McKinley Timmons Clark (MA) Kilmer Sa´ nchez Cooper King (NY) Schneider Gosar Meadows Tipton Clarke (NY) Kim Sarbanes Correa Kinzinger Schrader Granger Meuser Walberg Clay Kind Scanlon Costa Kirkpatrick Schrier Graves (GA) Miller Walker Cleaver Kirkpatrick Schakowsky Graves (MO) Mitchell Watkins Clyburn Krishnamoorthi Courtney Krishnamoorthi Scott (VA) Schiff Green (TN) Moolenaar Weber (TX) Cohen Kuster (NH) Cox (CA) Kuster (NH) Scott, David Schneider Griffith Mooney (WV) Webster (FL) Connolly Lamb Craig Lamb Serrano Schrader Grothman Mullin Westerman Cooper Langevin Crist Langevin Sewell (AL) Schrier Crow Larsen (WA) Guest Norman Williams Correa Larsen (WA) Shalala Scott (VA) Cuellar Larson (CT) Hagedorn Nunes Wilson (SC) Costa Larson (CT) Sherman Scott, David Cummings Lawrence Harris Olson Wittman Courtney Lawrence Sherrill Serrano Cunningham Lawson (FL) Hartzler Palazzo Womack Cox (CA) Lawson (FL) Shimkus Sewell (AL) Curtis Lee (CA) Hern, Kevin Palmer Wright Craig Lee (CA) Sires Shalala Davids (KS) Lee (NV) Hice (GA) Pence Young Crist Lee (NV) Slotkin Sherman Davis (CA) Levin (CA) Higgins (LA) Perry Zeldin Crow Levin (CA) Smith (NJ) Sherrill Davis, Danny K. Levin (MI) Cuellar Levin (MI) Smith (WA) Sires Davis, Rodney Lewis NOT VOTING—11 Cummings Lewis Spanberger Slotkin Dean Lieu, Ted Abraham Gonza´ lez-Colo´ n Plaskett Cunningham Lieu, Ted Speier Smith (NJ) DeFazio Lipinski Byrne (PR) Radewagen Davids (KS) Lipinski Stanton Smith (WA) DeGette Loebsack Frankel Katko San Nicolas Davis (CA) Loebsack Stauber Spanberger DeLauro Lofgren Garamendi Marchant Soto Davis, Danny K. Lofgren DelBene Lowenthal Stefanik Dean Lowenthal Speier Delgado Lowey Steil DeFazio Lowey Stanton Demings Luja´ n Stevens b 1115 DeGette Luja´ n Stevens Stivers Suozzi DeSaulnier Luria Messrs. BALDERSON, MOOLENAAR, DeLauro Luria Deutch Lynch Suozzi DelBene Lynch Swalwell (CA) Diaz-Balart Malinowski Swalwell (CA) MITCHELL, JOYCE of Pennsylvania, Delgado Malinowski Takano Dingell Maloney, Takano Mrs. HARTZLER, and Mr. RUTHER- Demings Maloney, Thompson (CA) Doggett Carolyn B. Taylor FORD changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ DeSaulnier Carolyn B. Thompson (MS) Thompson (CA) Titus Doyle, Michael Maloney, Sean to ‘‘no.’’ Deutch Maloney, Sean F. Mast Thompson (MS) Dingell Matsui Tlaib Engel Matsui Titus Mr. POSEY, Mrs. WALORSKI, Doggett McAdams Tonko Escobar McAdams Tlaib Messrs. WOODALL, SHIMKUS, COL- Doyle, Michael McBath Torres (CA) Eshoo McBath Tonko LINS of New York, McHENRY, and F. McCollum Torres Small Espaillat McClintock Torres (CA) Engel McEachin (NM) Evans McCollum Torres Small YOHO changed their vote from ‘‘no’’ to Escobar McGovern Trahan Finkenauer McEachin (NM) ‘‘aye.’’ Eshoo McNerney Trone Fitzpatrick McGovern Trahan So the amendment was agreed to. Espaillat Meeks Underwood Trone Van Drew Fletcher McHenry The result of the vote was announced Evans Meng Flores McNerney Turner Finkenauer Moore Vargas Fortenberry Meeks Underwood as above recorded. Fitzpatrick Morelle Veasey Foster Meng Upton AMENDMENT NO. 5 OFFERED BY MR. VAN DREW Fletcher Moulton Vela Foxx (NC) Moore Van Drew Foster Mucarsel-Powell Vela´ zquez Fudge Morelle Vargas The Acting CHAIR. The unfinished Fudge Murphy Visclosky Gabbard Moulton Veasey business is the demand for a recorded Gabbard Nadler Wasserman Gallagher Mucarsel-Powell Vela vote on the amendment offered by the Gallego Napolitano Schultz Gallego Murphy Vela´ zquez Garcı´a (IL) Neal Waters gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. VAN Garcı´a (IL) Nadler Visclosky Garcia (TX) Neguse Watson Coleman Garcia (TX) Napolitano Wagner DREW) on which further proceedings Golden Norcross Welch Gohmert Neal Walden were postponed and on which the ayes Gomez Norton Wexton Golden Neguse Walorski prevailed by voice vote. Gonzalez (TX) O’Halleran Wild Gomez Newhouse Waltz Gottheimer Ocasio-Cortez Yarmuth Gonzalez (OH) Norcross Wasserman The Clerk will redesignate the Gonzalez (TX) Norton Schultz amendment. NOES—193 Gottheimer O’Halleran Waters The Clerk redesignated the amend- Aderholt Buchanan Cook Graves (LA) Ocasio-Cortez Watson Coleman ment. Allen Buck Crawford Green (TX) Omar Welch Amodei Bucshon Crenshaw Grijalva Pallone Wenstrup RECORDED VOTE Armstrong Budd Curtis Guthrie Panetta Wexton The Acting CHAIR. A recorded vote Arrington Burchett Davidson (OH) Haaland Pappas Wild Babin Burgess Davis, Rodney Harder (CA) Pascrell Wilson (FL) has been demanded. Bacon Byrne DesJarlais Hastings Payne Woodall A recorded vote was ordered. Baird Calvert Diaz-Balart Hayes Perlmutter Yarmuth The Acting CHAIR. This will be a Balderson Carter (GA) Duffy Heck Peters Yoho 2-minute vote. Banks Carter (TX) Duncan Barr Chabot Dunn NOES—144 The vote was taken by electronic de- Bergman Cheney Emmer vice, and there were—ayes 234, noes 193, Biggs Cline Estes Aderholt Balderson Brady Bilirakis Cloud Ferguson Allen Banks Brooks (AL) not voting 10, as follows: Bishop (UT) Cole Fleischmann Amash Barr Buchanan [Roll No. 101] Bost Collins (GA) Flores Amodei Bergman Buck Brady Collins (NY) Fortenberry Armstrong Biggs Bucshon AYES—234 Brooks (AL) Comer Foxx (NC) Babin Bilirakis Burchett Adams Allred Axne Brooks (IN) Conaway Fulcher Baird Bishop (UT) Burgess Aguilar Amash Barraga´ n

VerDate Sep 11 2014 04:04 Mar 01, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00016 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A28FE7.012 H28FEPT1 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HOUSE February 28, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H2291 Gaetz Latta Rutherford The amendments were agreed to. has not responded with a denial or ap- Gallagher Lesko Scalise The SPEAKER pro tempore. The proval in 3 business days—again, the Gianforte Long Schweikert Gibbs Loudermilk Scott, Austin question is on the engrossment and status quo. Gohmert Lucas Sensenbrenner third reading of the bill. Do we really want to tell victims of Gonzalez (OH) Luetkemeyer Shimkus The bill was ordered to be engrossed domestic violence they have to wait up Gooden Marchant Simpson and read a third time, and was read the to 20 business days, which is under this Gosar Marshall Smith (MO) Granger Massie bill, before they are allowed to ade- Smith (NE) third time. Graves (GA) Mast quately defend themselves? Smucker MOTION TO RECOMMIT Graves (LA) McCarthy Spano Do we really want to tell them: Graves (MO) McCaul Mrs. LESKO. Madam Speaker, I have Sorry. I know you are purchasing a Green (TN) McClintock Stauber a motion to recommit at the desk. Stefanik firearm to protect yourself, but you Griffith McHenry The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the Grothman McKinley Steil have to wait 20 business days? Guest Meadows Steube gentlewoman opposed to the bill? Should we tell them: Hopefully you Guthrie Meuser Stewart Mrs. LESKO. I am. can hide from your abuser for the next Hagedorn Miller Stivers The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Harris Mitchell Taylor month? Hartzler Moolenaar Thompson (PA) Clerk will report the motion to recom- The Judiciary Committee recently Hern, Kevin Mooney (WV) Thornberry mit. heard testimony from a young woman Herrera Beutler Mullin Timmons The Clerk read as follows: who was raped on her college campus. Hice (GA) Newhouse Tipton Mrs. Lesko moves to recommit the bill She did not have a gun on campus be- Higgins (LA) Norman Turner Hill (AR) Nunes Upton H.R. 1112 to the Committee on the Judiciary cause the State did not allow her to Holding Olson Wagner with instructions to report the same to the carry a gun in order to defend herself. Hollingsworth Palazzo Walberg House forthwith with the following amend- This is a clear example of how law- Hudson Palmer Walden ment: Huizenga Pence abiding citizens, not criminals, follow Walker Page 1, line 13, insert ‘‘(I)’’ after ‘‘(ii)’’; the law and how this law-abiding Hunter Perry Walorski Page 1, line 17, strike ‘‘(I)’’ and insert Hurd (TX) Peterson Waltz young woman was harmed by gun con- Johnson (LA) Posey ‘‘(aa)’’. Watkins trol laws. Johnson (OH) Ratcliffe Page 2, line 9, strike ‘‘(aa)’’ and insert Weber (TX) Johnson (SD) Reed ‘‘(AA)’’. Another specific example related to Webster (FL) Jordan Reschenthaler Page 2, line 14, strike ‘‘(bb)’’ and insert this bill of a well-intentioned law gone Wenstrup Joyce (OH) Rice (SC) ‘‘(BB)’’. wrong is Carol Bowne, a New Jersey Joyce (PA) Riggleman Westerman Williams Page 2, line 21, strike ‘‘(II)’’ and insert woman stabbed to death while waiting Kelly (MS) Roby ‘‘(bb)’’. Kelly (PA) Rodgers (WA) Wilson (SC) to be approved for her firearm applica- King (IA) Roe, David P. Wittman Page 3, line 1, insert ‘‘or’’ after the semi- tion. She already had an order of pro- King (NY) Rogers (AL) Womack colon. tection from the courts, but that Kinzinger Rogers (KY) Woodall Page 3, strike line 2 and insert the fol- wasn’t enough for her. She needed Wright Kustoff (TN) Rooney (FL) lowing: more than just that piece of paper. She LaHood Rose, John W. Yoho ‘‘(II) in the case that the transferee is a LaMalfa Rouzer Young victim of a crime of domestic violence, 3 needed to protect herself, so she went Lamborn Roy Zeldin business days (meaning days on which State and tried to get a gun to defend herself, NOT VOTING—10 offices are open) have elapsed since the li- but because of the waiting period, she Abraham Gonza´ lez-Colo´ n Radewagen censee contacted the system. In this sub- was killed. Frankel (PR) San Nicolas clause, the term ‘crime of domestic violence’ Let me repeat that. Carol Bowne had Garamendi Katko Soto means an offense that has, as an element, an order of protection. She attempted Plaskett Wilson (FL) the use, attempted use, or threatened use of to purchase a firearm, and she was b 1126 physical force, or the threatened use of a tragically murdered by her abuser deadly weapon, committed by a current or while waiting to be approved. Mr. RICE of South Carolina changed former spouse, parent, or guardian of the vic- H.R. 1112 will make the realities of his vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ tim, by a person with whom the victim Carol’s story happen across the coun- Ms. LEE of California changed her shares a child in common, by a person who is try, putting millions of women and vote from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ cohabiting with or has cohabited with the law-abiding citizens in danger. Women So the amendment was agreed to. victim as a spouse, parent, or guardian, or by The result of the vote was announced a person similarly situated to a spouse, par- who seek avenues of protection will be as above recorded. ent, or guardian of the victim; and’’; and forced to wait almost a month, like The Acting CHAIR. There being no The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Carol. How many women will potentially further amendments, under the rule, tlewoman from Arizona is recognized suffer like Carol? And what will the the Committee rises. for 5 minutes. Accordingly, the Committee rose; Mrs. LESKO. Madam Speaker, this Democrats say: Sorry; we hope you can and the Speaker pro tempore (Ms. motion to recommit will not kill the hide from your abuser for a month? Madam Speaker, that would be fool- CLARK of Massachusetts) having as- bill or send it back to committee, to be clear. If adopted, the bill will imme- ish as well as heartless. It would be an sumed the chair, Ms. JUDY CHU of Cali- infringement of Second Amendment fornia, Acting Chair of the Committee diately proceed to final passage as amended. rights for someone who needs them the of the Whole House on the state of the most. My Democratic colleagues are set to Union, reported that that Committee, Given the insidious flaws in this bill, having had under consideration the bill pass this bill despite the fact that the do we really want to burden law-abid- (H.R. 1112) to amend chapter 44 of title ACLU opposes it. ing victims by placing them in a never- 18, United States Code, to strengthen Let me repeat that. The ACLU op- ending cycle of background checks? Of the background check procedures to be poses H.R. 1112 because it is so sweep- course not. followed before a Federal firearms li- ing and improperly perpetrates un- This motion to recommit is a com- censee may transfer a firearm to a per- founded assumptions that people with monsense measure. It would ensure son who is not such a licensee, and, mental disabilities should be consid- that domestic violence victims, many pursuant to House Resolution 145, she ered dangerous and are prone to vio- of whom live in fear, can receive the reported the bill, as amended by that lence without any meaningful due protection they need and deserve. resolution, back to the House with sun- process. Vote for this motion to recommit dry further amendments adopted in the As most of you know, I am a survivor and you vote to protect domestic vio- Committee of the Whole. of domestic violence, and that is why lence victims. Vote against the motion The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under this motion to recommit is so person- to recommit and you are telling vic- the rule, the previous question is or- ally important to me. This motion to tims who live in fear: Sorry; we won’t dered. recommit, in contrast, is narrowly tai- help you. Is a separate vote demanded on any lored. It would simply allow victims of Madam Speaker, I urge my col- further amendment reported from the domestic violence who go through a leagues to support this motion to re- Committee of the Whole? If not, the NICS check to receive their firearms in commit, and I yield back the balance Chair will put them en gros. 3 days, which is the status quo, if NICS of my time.

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:55 Mar 01, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00017 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A28FE7.018 H28FEPT1 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HOUSE H2292 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE February 28, 2019 Mrs. DINGELL. Madam Chair, I rise Mr. CLYBURN. Madam Speaker, how Diaz-Balart Kelly (MS) Rooney (FL) in opposition to this motion to recom- much time is remaining? Duffy Kelly (PA) Rose, John W. Duncan King (IA) Rouzer mit. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Dunn King (NY) Rutherford The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- tlewoman from Michigan has 1 minute Emmer Kinzinger Scalise tlewoman from Michigan is recognized remaining. Estes Kustoff (TN) Schweikert Ferguson LaHood for 5 minutes. Mr. CLYBURN. Madam Speaker, I Scott, Austin Mrs. DINGELL. Madam Speaker, the Fitzpatrick LaMalfa Sensenbrenner thank the gentlewoman so much for Fleischmann Lamborn Shimkus underlying bill, H.R. 1112, is a critical yielding the time. Flores Latta Simpson and carefully crafted bill to address the Madam Speaker, let me just take Fortenberry Lesko Smith (MO) Charleston loophole. Foxx (NC) Long Smith (NE) this 1 minute to welcome to this Cap- Fulcher Loudermilk Smith (NJ) We have discussed it here today, but itol Ms. Jennifer, Ms. Malana, and Ms. Gaetz Lucas I will repeat, the very name ‘‘Charles- Smucker Eliana Pinckney, the widow and two Gallagher Luetkemeyer Spano Gianforte Marchant ton loophole’’ is a grim reminder of the surviving daughters of Reverend Stauber deficiency in current law that allows Gibbs Marshall Stefanik Gohmert Mast Clementa Pinckney. Steil killers to get guns even if a firearms Gonzalez (OH) McCarthy They hid under his desk in the base- Steube background check has not been com- Gooden McCaul Stewart ment of Emanuel AME Church while a Gosar McClintock pleted. This is a dangerous flaw that Stivers demented gentleman who wanted to Granger McHenry we can address with a minor change to Taylor start a race war, was welcomed into Graves (GA) McKinley the system. Thompson (PA) their Bible study—at the end of that Graves (LA) Meadows When a background check cannot be Graves (MO) Meuser Thornberry hour, Reverend Clementa asked all of Green (TN) Miller Timmons completed within a 3-day period, it is Tipton important that the FBI work to resolve the worshippers to bow their heads and Griffith Mitchell close their eyes as he prayed for what Grothman Moolenaar Turner the unanswered questions presented, Guest Mooney (WV) Upton because these are the very cases that had occurred that evening. While their Guthrie Mullin Van Drew present the most danger. heads were bowed and their eyes Hagedorn Newhouse Wagner closed, Dylann Roof opened his, after Harris Norman Walberg Unfortunately, we have seen many Walden having been welcomed into their midst, Hartzler Nunes default proceeds go forward in domes- Hern, Kevin Olson Walker tic violence cases, allowing an abuser and he slaughtered Reverend Pinckney Herrera Beutler Palazzo Walorski to obtain a firearm even when he or she and his eight worshippers. Hice (GA) Palmer Waltz Why? Because he was allowed to get Higgins (LA) Pence Watkins is prohibited from owning one. The sta- Hill (AR) Perry Weber (TX) tistics back that up. this gun when he was not eligible to Holding Peterson Webster (FL) In 2013 and 2014, a plurality of default get one. They found out on the fifth Hollingsworth Posey Wenstrup proceed transfers to prohibit a person day that he was ineligible but, by that Hudson Ratcliffe Westerman point, it was too late. As a result, those Huizenga Reed Williams were related to domestic violence. In Hunter Reschenthaler Wilson (SC) that same period, 30 percent of denials poor souls lost their lives. Hurd (TX) Rice (SC) Wittman due to convictions for misdemeanor do- Let’s give the FBI, let’s give the au- Johnson (LA) Riggleman Womack thorities, enough time to do their jobs. Johnson (OH) Roby Woodall mestic violence were issued after the Johnson (SD) Rodgers (WA) Wright abuser took possession of the gun. We will save lives and we will be better Jordan Roe, David P. Yoho My heart goes out to my colleague, off for it. Joyce (OH) Rogers (AL) Young Mrs. LESKO, because she should never Mrs. DINGELL. Madam Speaker, I Joyce (PA) Rogers (KY) Zeldin have suffered from domestic violence. yield back the balance of my time. NAYS—232 Unfortunately, we are colleagues that The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without both know it. objection, the previous question is or- Adams Cuellar Horsford Aguilar Cummings Houlahan I have spent more time thinking dered on the motion to recommit. Allred Cunningham Hoyer about how you keep guns out of the There was no objection. Amash Davids (KS) Huffman hands of abusers, probably, than any- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Axne Davis (CA) Jackson Lee Barraga´ n Davis, Danny K. Jayapal body in this Chamber. I know better question is on the motion to recommit. Bass Dean Jeffries than most the dangers they pose. The question was taken; and the Beatty DeFazio Johnson (GA) It is not easy for me to talk about it Speaker pro tempore announced that Bera DeGette Johnson (TX) this week, but more than once—and I Beyer DeLauro Kaptur the noes appeared to have it. Bishop (GA) DelBene Keating think of the abuser. I will be honest on Mrs. LESKO. Madam Speaker, on Blumenauer Delgado Kelly (IL) this floor. My father was mentally ill. that I demand the yeas and nays. Blunt Rochester Demings Kennedy I had to hide in that closet with my The yeas and nays were ordered. Bonamici DeSaulnier Khanna siblings wondering if we would live or Boyle, Brendan Deutch Kildee The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- F. Dingell Kilmer die. One night, I kept my father from ant to clause 9 of rule XX, this 5- Brindisi Doggett Kim killing my mother. He shouldn’t have minute vote on the motion to recom- Brown (MD) Doyle, Michael Kind had a gun. mit will be followed by 5-minute votes Brownley (CA) F. Kirkpatrick This is what I remember as a child. Bustos Engel Krishnamoorthi on: Butterfield Escobar Kuster (NH) My mother went out and bought a gun, Passage of the bill, if ordered; and Carbajal Eshoo Lamb and then all of us were scared to death Agreeing to the Speaker’s approval of Ca´ rdenas Espaillat Langevin Carson (IN) Evans Larsen (WA) about her gun and my father’s gun. We the Journal, if ordered. had two guns to worry about. Cartwright Finkenauer Larson (CT) The vote was taken by electronic de- Case Fletcher Lawrence No child, no woman, no man should vice, and there were—yeas 194, nays Casten (IL) Foster Lawson (FL) ever have to go through that. Castor (FL) Fudge Lee (CA) The additional time provided by H.R. 232, not voting 5, as follows: Castro (TX) Gabbard Lee (NV) 1112 will help us stop more massacres [Roll No. 102] Chu, Judy Gallego Levin (CA) Cicilline Garcı´a (IL) Levin (MI) such as the one in Charleston, and may YEAS—194 Cisneros Garcia (TX) Lewis it prevent another child or family Aderholt Bost Cheney Clark (MA) Golden Lieu, Ted going through what I did as a child. Allen Brady Cline Clarke (NY) Gomez Lipinski Amodei Brooks (AL) Cloud Clay Gonzalez (TX) Loebsack These amendments made by this mo- Armstrong Brooks (IN) Cole Cleaver Gottheimer Lofgren tion would undermine the lifesaving Arrington Buchanan Collins (GA) Clyburn Green (TX) Lowenthal improvements to current law that this Babin Buck Collins (NY) Cohen Grijalva Lowey bill will initiate. I oppose this motion Bacon Bucshon Comer Connolly Haaland Luja´ n Baird Budd Conaway Cooper Harder (CA) Luria with every bit of my heart and soul and Balderson Burchett Cook Correa Hastings Lynch urge my colleagues to do the same. Banks Burgess Crawford Costa Hayes Malinowski Madam Speaker, I yield my remain- Barr Byrne Crenshaw Courtney Heck Maloney, ing time to the gentleman from South Bergman Calvert Curtis Cox (CA) Higgins (NY) Carolyn B. Biggs Carter (GA) Davidson (OH) Craig Hill (CA) Maloney, Sean Carolina (Mr. CLYBURN), the distin- Bilirakis Carter (TX) Davis, Rodney Crist Himes Massie guished whip. Bishop (UT) Chabot DesJarlais Crow Horn, Kendra S. Matsui

VerDate Sep 11 2014 01:55 Mar 01, 2019 Jkt 089060 PO 00000 Frm 00018 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K28FE7.038 H28FEPT1 lotter on DSKBCFDHB2PROD with HOUSE February 28, 2019 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H2293 McAdams Pressley Spanberger King (NY) Napolitano Serrano Stefanik Turner Westerman McBath Price (NC) Speier Kirkpatrick Neal Sewell (AL) Steil Upton Williams McCollum Quigley Stanton Krishnamoorthi Neguse Shalala Steube Wagner Wilson (SC) McEachin Raskin Stevens Kuster (NH) Norcross Sherman Stewart Walberg Wittman McGovern Rice (NY) Suozzi Lamb O’Halleran Sherrill Stivers Walden Womack McNerney Richmond Swalwell (CA) Langevin Ocasio-Cortez Sires Taylor Walker Woodall Meeks Rose (NY) Takano Larsen (WA) Omar Slotkin Thompson (PA) Walorski Wright Meng Rouda Thompson (CA) Larson (CT) Pallone Smith (NJ) Thornberry Waltz Yoho Moore Roy Thompson (MS) Timmons Watkins Lawrence Panetta Smith (WA) Young Morelle Roybal-Allard Titus Lawson (FL) Pappas Tipton Weber (TX) Spanberger Zeldin Moulton Ruiz Tlaib Lee (CA) Pascrell Torres Small Webster (FL) Speier Mucarsel-Powell Ruppersberger Tonko Lee (NV) Payne (NM) Wenstrup Murphy Rush Torres (CA) Levin (CA) Pelosi Stanton Nadler Ryan Torres Small Levin (MI) Perlmutter Stevens NOT VOTING—6 Napolitano Sa´ nchez (NM) Lewis Peters Suozzi Abraham Garamendi Meuser Neal Sarbanes Trahan Lieu, Ted Phillips Swalwell (CA) Frankel Katko Soto Neguse Scanlon Trone Lipinski Pingree Takano Norcross Schakowsky Underwood Loebsack Pocan Thompson (CA) O’Halleran Schiff Vargas Lofgren Porter Thompson (MS) b 1200 Ocasio-Cortez Schneider Veasey Lowenthal Pressley Titus Mr. TURNER changed his vote from Omar Schrader Vela Lowey Price (NC) Tlaib Pallone Schrier Vela´ zquez Luja´ n Quigley Tonko ‘‘yea’’ to ‘‘nay.’’ Panetta Scott (VA) Visclosky Luria Raskin Torres (CA) So the bill was passed. Pappas Scott, David Wasserman Lynch Rice (NY) Trahan The result of the vote was announced Pascrell Serrano Schultz Malinowski Richmond Trone as above recorded. Payne Sewell (AL) Waters Maloney, Rose (NY) Underwood Perlmutter Shalala Watson Coleman A motion to reconsider was laid on Carolyn B. Rouda Van Drew Peters Sherman Welch Maloney, Sean Roybal-Allard Vargas the table. Phillips Sherrill Wexton Matsui Ruiz Veasey Stated against: Pingree Sires Wild McBath Ruppersberger Vela Pocan Slotkin Wilson (FL) McCollum Rush Mr. MEUSER. Madam Speaker, I was ´ Porter Smith (WA) Yarmuth McEachin Ryan Velazquez present, did insert card and voted No on final Visclosky McGovern Sa´ nchez passage on Enhanced Background Checks NOT VOTING—5 McNerney Sarbanes Wasserman Abraham Garamendi Soto Meeks Scanlon Schultz Act, but my vote was not recorded. Frankel Katko Meng Schakowsky Waters PERSONAL EXPLANATION Watson Coleman Moore Schiff Mr. SOTO. Madam Speaker, I apologize for b 1152 Morelle Schneider Welch Moulton Schrader Wexton not being present to vote. I had a family health So the motion to recommit was re- Mucarsel-Powell Schrier Wild emergency in Florida to attend. Had I been jected. Murphy Scott (VA) Wilson (FL) present, I would have voted ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall The result of the vote was announced Nadler Scott, David Yarmuth No. 100, ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 101, ‘‘nay’’ on as above recorded. NAYS—198 rollcall No. 102, and ‘‘yea’’ on rollcall No. 103. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Aderholt Flores Loudermilk question is on the passage of the bill. Allen Fortenberry Lucas f The question was taken; and the Amash Foxx (NC) Luetkemeyer Speaker pro tempore announced that Amodei Fulcher Marchant THE JOURNAL the ayes appeared to have it. Armstrong Gaetz Marshall Arrington Gallagher Massie The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- Mrs. LESKO. Madam Speaker, on Babin Gianforte Mast ant to clause 8 of rule XX, the unfin- that I demand the yeas and nays. Bacon Gibbs McAdams ished business is the question on agree- The yeas and nays were ordered. Baird Gohmert McCarthy Balderson Golden McCaul ing to the Speaker’s approval of the The SPEAKER pro tempore. This is a Banks Gonzalez (OH) McClintock Journal, which the Chair will put de 5-minute vote. Barr Gooden McHenry novo. The vote was taken by electronic de- Bergman Gosar McKinley The question is on the Speaker’s ap- vice, and there were—yeas 228, nays Biggs Granger Meadows Bilirakis Graves (GA) Miller proval of the Journal. 198, not voting 6, as follows: Bishop (UT) Graves (LA) Mitchell Pursuant to clause 1, rule I, the Jour- [Roll No. 103] Bost Graves (MO) Moolenaar nal stands approved. Brady Green (TN) Mooney (WV) YEAS—228 Brindisi Griffith Mullin Adams Connolly Foster Brooks (AL) Grothman Newhouse f Aguilar Cooper Fudge Brooks (IN) Guest Norman Allred Correa Gabbard Buchanan Guthrie Nunes REQUEST TO CONSIDER H.R. 962, Axne Costa Gallego Buck Hagedorn Olson Barraga´ n Courtney Garcı´a (IL) Bucshon Harris Palazzo BORN-ALIVE ABORTION SUR- Bass Cox (CA) Garcia (TX) Budd Hartzler Palmer VIVORS PROTECTION ACT Beatty Craig Gomez Burchett Hern, Kevin Pence Bera Crist Gonzalez (TX) Burgess Herrera Beutler Perry Mr. MITCHELL. Madam Speaker, I Beyer Crow Gottheimer Byrne Hice (GA) Peterson ask unanimous consent that the Com- Bishop (GA) Cuellar Green (TX) Calvert Higgins (LA) Posey mittee on the Judiciary be discharged Blumenauer Cummings Grijalva Carter (GA) Hill (AR) Ratcliffe Blunt Rochester Cunningham Haaland Carter (TX) Holding Reed from further consideration of the bill, Bonamici Davids (KS) Harder (CA) Chabot Hollingsworth Reschenthaler H.R. 962, the Born-Alive Abortion Sur- Boyle, Brendan Davis (CA) Hastings Cheney Horn, Kendra S. Rice (SC) vivors Protection Act, and ask for its F. Davis, Danny K. Hayes Cline Hudson Riggleman immediate consideration in the House. Brown (MD) Dean Heck Cloud Huizenga Roby Brownley (CA) DeFazio Higgins (NY) Cole Hunter Rodgers (WA) The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Bustos DeGette Hill (CA) Collins (GA) Hurd (TX) Roe, David P. tleman is advised that, under guide- Butterfield DeLauro Himes Collins (NY) Johnson (LA) Rogers (AL) lines consistently issued by successive Carbajal DelBene Horsford Comer Johnson (OH) Rogers (KY) Ca´ rdenas Delgado Houlahan Conaway Johnson (SD) Rooney (FL) Speakers, as recorded in section 956 of Carson (IN) Demings Hoyer Cook Jordan Rose, John W. the House Rules and Manual, the Chair Cartwright DeSaulnier Huffman Crawford Joyce (OH) Rouzer is constrained not to entertain the re- Case Deutch Jackson Lee Crenshaw Joyce (PA) Roy quest unless it has been cleared by the Casten (IL) Dingell Jayapal Curtis Kelly (MS) Rutherford Castor (FL) Doggett Jeffries Davidson (OH) Kelly (PA) Scalise bipartisan floor and committee leader- Castro (TX) Doyle, Michael Johnson (GA) Davis, Rodney Kind Schweikert ships. Chu, Judy F. Johnson (TX) DesJarlais King (IA) Scott, Austin Mr. MITCHELL. Madam Speaker, if Cicilline Engel Kaptur Diaz-Balart Kinzinger Sensenbrenner Cisneros Escobar Keating Duffy Kustoff (TN) Shimkus this unanimous consent request cannot Clark (MA) Eshoo Kelly (IL) Duncan LaHood Simpson be entertained, I urge the Speaker and Clarke (NY) Espaillat Kennedy Dunn LaMalfa Smith (MO) the majority leader to immediately Clay Evans Khanna Emmer Lamborn Smith (NE) schedule the Born-Alive bill. Cleaver Finkenauer Kildee Estes Latta Smucker Clyburn Fitzpatrick Kilmer Ferguson Lesko Spano The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- Cohen Fletcher Kim Fleischmann Long Stauber tleman is not recognized for debate.

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