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I qlloo('36? { DESIGNATE LANDS IN LOS PADRES NATIONAL FOREST AS WILDERNESS HEARING BEFORE THE SUBOOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS AND PUBLIO LANDS OF THE OOMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVESK' )O~ ...... ~ • ONE HUNDRED FIRS~"~~IQI:N~ mJ};)'r:\tf~t. t V·~· FIRST SESSION ON AUG 2? 1991 H.R. 1473, . .." TO DESIGNATE CERTAIN LANDS IN LOS PADRE~\~A~I6NAL FOREST· AS WILDERNESS, TO DESIGNATE SESPE CREEK AND THE:··SISQUOC·RIVER IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS WILD;)~.ND SCENIC RIVERS, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES HEARING HELD IN WASHINGTON, DC JULY 18, 1989 Serial No. 101-35 Printed for the use of the Committee on Interior and Insular Affairs 43-252,=< WASHINGTON: 1991 For sale by the Superintendent of Documents, Congressional Sales Office U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 20402 COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona, Chairman GEORGE MILLER, California DON YOUNG, Alaska, PIDLIP R. SHARP, Indiana Ranking Republican Member EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts ROBERT J. LAGOMARSINO, California AUSTIN J. MURPHY, Pennsylvania RON MARLENEE, Montana NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia LARRY CRAIG, Idaho BRUCE F. VENTO, Minnesota DENNY SMITH, Oregon PAT WILLIAMS, Montana JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah BEVERLY B. BYRON, Maryland BARBARA F. VUCANOVICH, Nevada RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands BEN BLAZ, Guam SAM GEJDENSON, Connecticut JOHN J. RHODES III, Arizona PETER H. KOSTMA YER, Pennsylvania ELTON GALLEGLY, California RICHARD H. LEHMAN, California STAN PARRIS, Virginia BILL RICHARDSON, New Mexico ROBERT F. SMITH, Oregon GEORGE (BUDDY) DARDEN, Georgia JIM LIGHTFOOT, Iowa PETER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming JAIME B. FUSTER, Puerto Rico JOHN J. DUNCAN, JR., Tennessee MEL LEVINE, California JAMES McCLURE CLARKE, North Carolina WAYNE OWENS, Utah JOHN LEWIS, Georgia BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL, Colorado PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon ENI F.H. FALEOMAVAEGA, American Samoa JAMES A. McDERMOTT, Washington STANLEY SCOVILLE, Staff Director and Counsel Roy JONES, Associate Staff Director and Counsel LEE McELVAIN, General Counsel RICHARD A. AGNEW, Chief Minority Counsel SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS AND PUBLIC LANDS BRUCE F. VENTO, Minnesota, Chairman AUSTIN J. MURPHY, Pennsylvania RON MARLENEE, Montana NICK JOE RAHALL II, West Virginia ROBERT J. LAGOMARSINO, California PAT WILLIAMS, Montana LARRY CRAIG, Idaho BEVERLY B. BYRON, Maryland JAMES V. HANSEN, Utah RON DE LUGO, Virgin Islands BEN BLAZ, Guam PETER H. KOSTMAYER, Pennsylvania JOHN J. RHODES III, Arizona RICHARD H. LEHMAN, California ELTON GALLEGLY, California BILL RICHARDSON, New Mexico STAN PARRIS, Virginia GEORGE (BUDDY) DARDEN, Georgia ROBERT F. SMITH, Oregon PETTER J. VISCLOSKY, Indiana JIM LIGHTFOOT, Iowa JAIME B. FUSTER, Puerto Rico CRAIG THOMAS, Wyoming MEL LEVINE, California JOHN J. DUNCAN, JR., Tennessee JAMES McCLURE CLARKE, North Carolina DON YOUNG, Alaska WAYNE OWENS, Utah JOHN LEWIS, Georgia BEN NIGHTHORSE CAMPBELL, Colorado PETER A. DEFAZIO, Oregon JAMES A. McDERMOTT, Washington MORRIS K. UDALL, Arizona DALE CRANE, Staff Director JAMES (JIM) BRADLEY, Professional Staff Member FABRIZIA HAWES, Staff Assistant STEPHEN HODAPP, Republican Consultant on National Parks and Recreation NOTE.-The first listed minority member is counterpart tothe subcommittee chairman: (II) CONTENTS Page Hearing held: July 18, 1989.............................................................................................................. 1 Text of the bill: H.R. 1473.................................................................................................................... 8 TUESDAY, JULY 18, 1989 Statements: Overbay, James, Deputy Chief for the National Forest System, Forest Service, U.S. Department of Agriculture......................................................... 16 Panel consisting of: Sally Reid, vice president, Sierra Club, San Francisco ............................. 34 Gene Marshall, coalition for Ventura County Wilderness, Ventura, California.......... .... ............. ............. ....................... ......................................... 49 Kevin Coyle, vice president and conservation director, American Rivers, Washington, DC............................................................................... 57 Panel consisting of: Fred Gientke, general manager, United Water Conservation District, Santa Clara, California................................................................................ 79 Sheldon Berger, treasurer and secretary, United Water Conservation District, Oxnard, California ........................................................................ 91 Chuck Bennett, Oxnard and Ventura Chambers of Commerce and Association of Water Agencies of Ventura County, OJAI, California 98 Carolyn Leavens, Leavens Ranches and chairman of the Water Com mittee of the Economic Development Association, Ventura, Califor- nia.................................................................................................................... 108 Panel consisting of: Alan Coles, Angeles Chapter, Sierra Club, Long Beach, California ....... 117 Steven Evans, associate conservation director, Friends of the River, Sacramento, California ................................................................................ 129 Phillip White, consulting engineer, Ventura, California.......................... 133 Steven Barnard, president of Mission Produce and officer of Ventura County Taxpayers Association, Santa Paula, California ...................... 134 Panel consisting of: Carla Bard, realtor, OJAI, California........................................................... 137 Rex Laird, general manager, Ventura County Farm Bureau, Ven- tura, California.............................................................................................. 139 Patricia Clark, Ranch Owner, OJAI, California......................................... 140 APPENDIX TUESDAY, JULY 18, 1989 Additional Material Submitted for the Hearing Record: Statement of Congressman Leon Panetta ................................................................... 151 Statement of Raymond D. Green .................................................................................. 155 Additional testimony submitted by Steven L. Evans................................................ 159 Letter from Mark H. Capelli, dated March 31, 1989................................................. 163 Letter from Bruce Franks, dated May 2, 1989........................................................... 165 Letter from James J. Henry, dated June 8, 1989...................................................... 166 Letter from Stan Greene, dated JUly 12, 1989........................................................... 168 Letter from Frank DePasquale, dated July 12, 1989 ................................................ 169 Letter submitted by Jane Figen, dated July 12, 1989............................................... 170 Letter from Frank Brommenschenkel, dated July 13, 1989.................................... 177 (III) IV Page Letter from Harvard G. Ayers, dated July 13,1989.................................................. 178 Letter from Russ and Pat Baggerly, dated July 14,1989......................................... 179 Letter from Jack O'Connell, dated July 14, 1989....................................................... 180 Letter from Patrice Davison, dated July 17,1989..................................................... 181 Letter from Steve Kuehl, dated July 18, 1989............................................................ 182 Letter from Dana Bell, dated July 18, 1989................................................................ 184 Letter from Todd Ourston, dated July 20, 1989......................................................... 185 Letter from Alan Coles, dated July 24, 1989 (attached is copy of letter from E.R. Blakley) ................................................................................................................. 187 Letter from Phil White, dated July 29, 1989.............................................................. 190 List of endorsers. .............................................................................................................. 194 Sample of form letter ...................................................................................................... 195 Sample of petition............................................................................................................ 196 Editorial submitted by Congressman Lagomarsino................................................... 197 Letter from Yvon Chouinard to Alasdair Coyne, dated July 12,1989................... 198 DESIGNATE LANDS IN LOS PADRES NATIONAL FOREST AS WILDERNESS rUESDAY, JULY 18, 1989 HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL PARKS AND PUBLIC LANDS, COMMITTEE ON INTERIOR AND INSULAR AFFAIRS, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10 a.m., in room 2200, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Bruce F. Vento (chair man of the subcommittee) presiding. Mr. VENTO. The Subcommittee on National Parks and Public Lands will come to order. Today we will hear testimony on H.R. 1473, a bill introduced by my colleague on the subcommittee, Mr. Lagomarsino. This bill would designate three areas of the Los Padres National Forest in southern California as wilderness. These areas would become the Sespe Wilderness, the Matilija Wilderness and the La Brea Addi tion to the existing San Rafael Wilderness. These new additions to the National