July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6117 immigrant of both Italian and Greek Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I have no California (Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD) descent. further requests for time, and I reserve for their leadership, and others. I explained that we live in a Nation the balance of my time. Rarely do we get to use the very cen- of immigrants, that Brumidi is one of Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD. Mr. ter of the Capitol building, the Ro- the greatest that we ever welcomed. He Speaker, I yield 3 minutes to the gen- tunda, in any ceremony. The Congress left Rome under unfortunate cir- tleman from New York (Mr. ISRAEL). requires a joint resolution and that cumstances, having been imprisoned in Mr. ISRAEL. Mr. Speaker, I thank that resolution be considered by the the great fight in Italy for independ- the gentlewoman for yielding me this other body for the purpose of honoring ence with both the Vatican and the time and thank her for her leadership one of our citizens. So it is very rare. state. Rome’s loss was America’s gain. on this issue. We paid tribute to Ronald Reagan. We When the French occupied Rome in I also want to thank the gentleman have paid tribute to great Americans, 1849, Brumidi was accused by the from Florida (Mr. MICA) for his leader- Rosa Parks, in awarding the Congres- Church of being a revolutionary. The ship, his passion for history, his leader- sional Gold Medal, leaders, political work he had been doing in the Vatican ship on behalf of the legacy of and social leaders. came to an end. He set out for America Constantino Brumidi in joining with b 1115 where he hoped our free way of life me in urging the Stamp Advisory Com- How fitting it is that we take time as would allow his talent to flourish. He mission to issue a United States post- a Congress to recognize one of the ar- arrived in New York City. Think of age stamp honoring Constantino tistic and cultural contributors to this Brumidi. that day in 1852. He was a proud citizen great Capitol building on the 200th an- Mr. Speaker, all Americans of all 5 years later. Hear me, 5 years later. In niversary of Brumidi’s birth. So we not faiths, of all backgrounds, of all experi- fact, he was known to sign some of his only honor next week in this special ences who come to this citadel of de- work ‘‘C. Brumidi Artist Citizen of the ceremony Constantino Brumidi, but mocracy are inspired by the legacy of United States.’’ How fitting. also all the sons and daughters of this After traveling the country for work, Constantino Brumidi. All of us are in- great Nation, immigrants, who made in 1855 Brumidi’s unique style found its fluenced by him. I was just walking not only this Capitol an incredible through the corridors of the Capitol, way to the empty walls of the United symbol of democracy and a beautiful and this is a very busy, very crowded States Capitol. He was commissioned place to work and visit and to have as by the Congress. Brumidi soon provided place. And everyone who comes to the our United States Capitol, but also to a unique ability to apply a classical Capitol today and during these weeks honor all those who have made this a style to create American themes. has no choice but to look at the work great country. Though paid handsomely at the start of Constantino Brumidi, to be affected Mr. Speaker, I urge the adoption of of his career, Brumidi was not inspired and influenced by it. the resolution. by financial gain. After 2 years of Constantino Brumidi epitomizes the Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance work, he never got a raise. But his greatest democratic values that our of my time. work continued. country offers to the world: a sense of The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. It continued in the Frieze of Amer- strength, a sense of pride, a sense of FOLEY). The question is on the motion ican History, in the Brumidi Corridor, hope, the sense that one can come here offered by the gentleman from Florida in the Senate Appropriations Com- with nothing and create an enduring (Mr. MICA) that the House suspend the mittee, in the reception room and in and permanent legacy of their values. rules and agree to the concurrent reso- the President’s Room, just to name a Constantino Brumidi captures not lution, H. Con. Res. 202. few. And on February 19, 1880, exactly just the history that we view in his The question was taken; and (two- 25 years to the day after Brumidi began works in the Capitol, but he also sends thirds having voted in favor thereof) work at the Capitol, he died of a kid- us a critical message about our future, the rules were suspended and the con- ney failure. He died in poverty. And our collective future. What he tells us current resolution was agreed to. following his death, Brumidi’s name in his work is that this is a special A motion to reconsider was laid on and work slipped into obscurity. Much place in the world, that one can come the table. of his artwork was painted over, in to America and work hard, they can f reach the literal zenith of their profes- fact. He was looked at as irrelevant. It GENERAL LEAVE was immaterial. It was not until 1952 sion, and in that workforce all the rest that his grave site was recognized by of us can look up at what they have Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I ask unani- the Congress, the Congress that he done. That is something that should mous consent that all Members may dedicated his life to physically en- not be taken for granted. have 5 legislative days within which to hance. It was not until 10 years ago I would suggest that only in America revise and extend their remarks and in- that his work has truly begun to be re- could Constantino Brumidi’s works be clude extraneous material on H. Con. stored. as cherished as they are. Only in Amer- Res. 202. Brumidi was driven by enormous tal- ica could his work force all the rest of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there ent. He was driven by enormous patri- us to look up at what he has done, and objection to the request of the gen- otism. His passion allowed him to only in America could people from all tleman from Florida? There was no objection. adorn the Capitol of his adopted coun- faiths and backgrounds be so influ- try with the grand symbolism of a enced and inspired by what he has f democratic Greco-Roman legacy. done. That is the true lesson of GENERAL LEAVE The event that this resolution will Constantino Brumidi. He does not cap- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. authorize takes a step to ensure that ture the past. He tells us that the best Speaker, I ask unanimous consent that Americans will never forget one of our is yet to come. all Members may have 5 legislative greatest historical figures. It will work So I support this resolution. I thank days within which to revise and extend to ensure that every American, Italian, the gentlewoman and gentleman from their remarks and include extraneous Greek, or whatever, will recognize the Florida, and I urge my colleagues to material on H.R. 2601. name of Constantino Brumidi, one of adopt it. The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is there the greatest immigrants to ever grace Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD. Mr. objection to the request of the gen- America. Speaker, I have no further requests for tleman from New Jersey? This is the 200th anniversary of his time, and I yield back the balance of There was no objection. birth. This is the 150th anniversary of my time. f the beginning of his artistic career. Mr. MICA. Mr. Speaker, I yield my- And this is the 125th anniversary of his self the balance of my time. FOREIGN RELATIONS AUTHORIZA- death. It is only fitting that Congress In closing, I do thank both sides of TION ACT, FISCAL YEARS 2006 honor Constantino Brumidi in this the aisle for participating in this, the AND 2007 showplace, in the Capitol Rotunda, on gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. the bicentennial of his birth. PASCRELL) and the gentlewoman from MICA). Pursuant to House Resolution

VerDate jul 14 2003 00:23 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00009 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.017 H20JYPT1 H6118 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 365 and rule XVIII, the Chair declares of this Act, the Secretary of State shall es- tional interests broadly considered and the House in the Committee of the tablish a mandatory requirement for back- help Egypt achieve the economic and Whole House on the State of the Union ground investigations of passport acceptance political reform it needs. for the further consideration of the agents. Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming (2) ESTABLISHMENT OF TRAINING PRO- bill, H.R. 2601. my time, I thank the gentleman. GRAM.—Not later than one year after the Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, will the b 1117 date of the enactment of this Act, the Under Secretary for Management of the Depart- gentleman yield? IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ment of State, acting through the Bureau of Mr. ISSA. I yield to the gentleman Accordingly, the House resolved Consular Affairs of the Department, shall— from California. itself into the Committee of the Whole (A) establish a comprehensive training pro- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I thank House on the State of the Union for the gram for passport acceptance agents that in- the gentleman for yielding. further consideration of the bill (H.R. cludes instruction and training relating to Mr. Chairman, the chairman and I 2601) to authorize appropriations for identification document fraud detection, are prepared to deal with all members the Department of State for fiscal customer identification authentication, and of the committee on their ideas. We years 2006 and 2007, and for other pur- the penalties for passport fraud by employ- have explored the issue of the appro- ees, agents, and passport applicants; poses, with Mr. FOLEY (Acting Chair- priate level of economic and military (B) establish a database that records when aid to Egypt; and the committee, as man) in the chair. passport acceptance agents complete such The Clerk read the title of the bill. training; well as the House, has acted on this The Acting CHAIRMAN. When the (C) require all newly appointed passport matter. But as with all matters, we Committee of the Whole rose on Tues- acceptance agents to complete such training have an open mind to discuss addi- day, July 19, 2005, amendment No. 19 before initial processing of passport applica- tional and new ideas. printed in part B of House Report 109– tions; and Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, reclaiming 175 by the gentleman from New Jersey (D) establish a training schedule so that all my time, I thank the gentleman from (Mr. SMITH) had been disposed of. existing passport acceptance agents have California. I appreciate the offer by the It is now in order to consider amend- completed such training no later than three chairman and ranking Democrat to ment No. 20 printed in part B of House years after the date of the establishment of look at this, and I look forward to the training program under this paragraph. working with them and the administra- Report 109–175. (c) EXPANDED AUTHORITY OF SPECIAL AMENDMENT NO. 20 OFFERED BY MR. ISSA AGENTS.—Section 203 of the Omnibus Diplo- tion on this matter. Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I offer an matic and Antiterrorism Act of 1986 (Public On that, Mr. Chairman, I would like amendment. Law 99–399; 22 U.S.C. 4823) is amended— to move to amendment No. 20. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk (1) in the first sentence, by striking ‘‘Spe- Amendment 20 was made in order be- will designate the amendment. cial agent positions’’ and inserting ‘‘(a) Spe- cause it is dealing with an important The text of the amendment is as fol- cial agent positions’’; and matter. This amendment takes the lows: (2) by adding at the end the following new necessary and commonsense steps to subsection: Amendment No. 20 offered by Mr. ISSA: enhance the security of American pass- ‘‘(b) In connection with investigations of At the end of title II, add the following ports. It will help to eliminate three corruption, waste, fraud, and abuse by offi- new section: major loopholes currently present in cers and employees of the United States Gov- SEC. 217. PASSPORT SECURITY ENHANCEMENT. ernment, including the illegal sale of United the passport acquisition process that (a) REPORT ON DOCUMENTS RELATED TO States passports and visas and other United have been exploited by criminals, espe- PASSPORT ISSUANCE.— States criminal offenses, the Federal Dis- cially over the last 5 years. (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than one year trict Court for the District of Columbia shall First, it requires the Secretary of after the date of the enactment of this Act, have authority to issue warrants with re- State to submit a report that describes the Secretary of State shall submit to the spect to properties within the special mari- appropriate congressional committees a re- the weaknesses of identification docu- time and territorial jurisdiction of the port that describes existing security weak- ments, including birth certificates, re- United States, as defined under section 7(9) nesses of identification documents, including quired for the issuance of passports. of title 18, United States Code. Special birth certificates, required for the issuance This report will lay out the minimum agents under the direction of the Director of of a passport, and that includes, in accord- the Diplomatic Security Service shall have acceptable criteria for birth certifi- ance with paragraph (3), recommended cri- authority to execute such warrants.’’. cates issued by State and county gov- teria for birth certificates that will be ac- (d) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— ernments in order for the certificates ceptable to establish valid proof of identity There are authorized to be appropriated such to be accepted by the State Depart- and national origin of individuals for the sums as may be necessary, or to reprogram ment for the purpose of obtaining a issuance of passports to such individuals. funds otherwise obtained through receipts (2) CONSULTATION.—The Secretary shall passport. from the issuance of passports and visas, to consult with appropriate officials of States Second, the amendment establishes a carry out this section. and cities identified as vital registration ju- requirement that all passport agents risdictions in the preparation of such cri- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to undergo background investigations and teria. House Resolution 365, the gentleman comprehensive training programs to (3) ACCEPTANCE CRITERIA.—The criteria re- from California (Mr. ISSA) and a Mem- improve fraudulent document detec- ferred to in paragraph (1) shall include the ber opposed each will control 15 min- tion and thereby reduce fraud. This establishment of minimum acceptance cri- utes. will make it harder for insiders to sell teria for identification documents issued by The Chair recognizes the gentleman passports to criminals and terrorists such jurisdictions, including criteria related to— from California (Mr. ISSA). and easier for government authorities (A) vital records security and procedures; Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- to discover those who do. The Sec- (B) security paper and printing for birth self such time as I may consume. retary of State would be authorized to certificates; Mr. Chairman, before we take up determine requirements for both back- (C) customer identification requirements; amendment 20, I would like to step ground checks and oversight of these (D) issuance of birth certificates, including back to amendment 6 of yesterday. I agents. duplicates; had submitted an amendment made in Finally, Mr. Chairman, and without a (E) controlling access to birth certificate order under the rule to strike proposed doubt most importantly, this amend- records to prevent identity fraud; (F) data element definitions to facilitate changes to U.S. economic and military ment expands the authority of the electronic exchange of birth and death reg- aid to Egypt yesterday. I decided not United States Government to inves- istration information with the Department to offer this amendment. tigate cases of illegal sales of passports of State for purposes of issuing passports; Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, will the and visas by U.S. Government per- and gentleman yield? sonnel. It authorizes the Federal Dis- (G) routine matching of all birth and death Mr. ISSA. I yield to the gentleman trict Court of the District of Columbia records. from Illinois. to issue warrants in such cases and au- (b) BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION AND ESTAB- Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, we are pre- thorizes special agents under the direc- LISHMENT OF TRAINING PROGRAM FOR PASS- PORT ACCEPTANCE AGENTS.— pared to continue to work with the tion of the director of the Diplomatic (1) BACKGROUND INVESTIGATION.—Not later gentleman from California and the ad- Security Service to execute such war- than 180 days after the date of the enactment ministration in order to protect the na- rants.

VerDate jul 14 2003 02:15 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00010 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.020 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6119 It will also require foreign service of- Mr. FLAKE. Mr. Chairman, I thank each nongovernmental organization that re- ficers and other personnel serving the sponsor of this amendment. It is ceives funding under the President’s Emer- abroad in diplomatic positions, includ- important. I think that we need to do gency Plan for AIDS Relief to have and ad- ing ambassadors, to waive any chal- all we can to make sure the feeder doc- here to a policy explicitly opposing prostitu- tion and sex trafficking and to submit to the lenge to the Federal court jurisdiction uments, the primary documents upon appropriate congressional committees the over matters involving the illegal sale which passports are issued, are safer results of such audit. of a passport or a visa or any other than they are today. I think it is im- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to matter involving official corruption. portant that the Secretary of State House Resolution 365, the gentleman The waiver would include any legal and those in responsibility have a more from New Jersey (Mr. SMITH) and a challenges to the diplomatic security thorough reporting process to us as to Member opposed each will control 5 conducting investigations for the same. how these can be made safe. minutes. This will resolve the current impasse So I want to commend the gentleman The Chair recognizes the gentleman that happens in a significant number of for bringing this forward. It is a good from New Jersey (Mr. SMITH). foreign countries when local mag- amendment, and we ought to support Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- istrates and police officials are barred it. man, I yield myself such time as I may under respective local laws from allow- Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- consume. ing investigations by anybody into the self such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, this amendment sim- homes of diplomats. Mr. Chairman, in closing, I would ply requires that the State Department Mr. Chairman, the requirements laid like to offer my assurances to the submit a report to Congress that one, out in this amendment will raise the ranking member that it was never the identifies by name all NGOs receiving State Department’s ability to detect intention of this amendment to eclipse funding under the President’s emer- and eliminate passport fraud. It is crit- the postal service’s good efforts; and gency plan for AIDS relief, the date ical for our Nation’s security that we the portion of the amendment that that the funding was provided, and the implement the measures I have laid deals with State Department devel- date on which the NGO filed the state- out. oping in no way, shape, or form is in- ment certifying its policy explicitly Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance tended to stop the training from being opposing prostitution and sex traf- of my time. conducted by the appropriate agency in ficking. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am the appropriate place. I look forward to Number two, it describes the Depart- not opposed to the amendment, but I working with the ranking member to ment of State’s plans to audit the com- ask unanimous consent to claim the clarify that in any language necessary. pliance by nongovernmental organiza- time in opposition. Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- tions receiving U.S. funding under the The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- ance of my time. President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS jection to the request of the gentleman The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- relief to have and adhere to an explicit from California? tion is on the amendment offered by policy opposing prostitution and sex There was no objection. the gentleman from California (Mr. trafficking and a description of the The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- ISSA). plan of the Department of State to tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS) is The amendment was agreed to. transmit the results to the appropriate recognized for 15 minutes. The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in congressional committees. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield order to consider amendment No. 21A myself such time as I may consume. made in order under the rule. b 1130 Mr. Chairman, passport security is a AMENDMENT NO. 21A OFFERED BY MR. SMITH OF Mr. Chairman, I would just note for critical issue, and we need to be sure NEW JERSEY my colleagues, this is a very simple that the administration is doing every- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- amendment. When the Hyde historic thing it can to ensure that only U.S. man, I offer an amendment. legislation on HIV/AIDS was consid- citizens receive U.S. passports. How- The Acting Chairman. Is the gen- ered by the committee, I offered the ever, while we are prepared to accept tleman from New Jersey acting as the amendment that was included in that this amendment, we hope we can make designee of the gentleman from Iowa bill to ensure that the NGOs, to which some modifications as the legislative (Mr. KING)? we provide considerable amounts of process moves forward. Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- money and, in many cases, we are talk- Birth certificates are used by the man, I am. ing tens of millions of dollars, are not State Department to help establish the The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk in any way complicit in sex trafficking nationality of an applicant, not their will designate the amendment. nor in the promotion of prostitution identity, and the Intelligence Reform The text of the amendment is as fol- and its legality. and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2004 lows: I would point out to my colleagues establishes a Federal process to stand- Amendment No. 21A offered by Mr. SMITH that by way of historical background, I ardize U.S. birth certificates. The of New Jersey: am the prime sponsor of the Traf- State Department is a full participant Page 300, after line 20, insert the following ficking Victims Protection Act of 2000 new section: in that process, along with other Fed- and the Trafficking Victims Protection SEC. 1027. FUNDING FOR NONGOVERNMENTAL eral agencies, the States and the asso- ORGANIZATIONS UNDER THE PRESI- Act Reauthorization and Expansion ciation that represents the registrars DENT’S EMERGENCY PLAN FOR AIDS Act of 2003. We take very seriously our of vital statistics. That process should RELIEF. obligation to ensure that we as a gov- be allowed to run its course, and it Not later than 90 days after the date of the ernment, we as a provider of signifi- would be counterproductive for the De- enactment of this Act, the Secretary of cant Federal funding, in no way are en- partment of State to establish its own State shall submit to the appropriate con- gressional committees a report that— abling this modern-day slavery called criteria for evaluating birth certifi- (1) identifies by name each nongovern- sex trafficking or prostitution, which cates. mental organization that has received fund- is its very close cousin. In addition, it is unclear whether the ing under the President’s Emergency Plan I would hope that Members would re- training mandated by this provision for AIDS Relief on or after the date of the alize that this is a very simple amend- should be the responsibility of the enactment of the United States Leadership ment. It just requires that we get basic State Department or the U.S. Postal Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Ma- information, which I think in our over- Service, which employs most of the laria Act of 2003 (Public Law 108–25), the date sight capacity we have an obligation to passport acceptance agents. on which the funding was provided to the or- do as a Congress and as certain com- We hope to address these issues as ganization, and the date on which the orga- nization filed a statement with the Govern- mittees of the Congress. this amendment moves forward. ment of the United States certifying that So I hope that Members will support Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- the organization has in effect a policy explic- this. ance of my time. itly opposing prostitution and sex traf- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 ficking; and of my time. minutes to the gentleman from Ari- (2) contains a description of the plan of the Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am zona (Mr. FLAKE). Department of State to audit compliance by not opposed to the amendment; I ask

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00011 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.022 H20JYPT1 H6120 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 unanimous consent to claim the time This amendment requires a report mented and awarded in accordance with the in opposition. from the Secretary of State be deliv- law. The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. SHAW). ered to the appropriate committees and Sincerely, MARK E. SOUDER, Is there objection to the request of the allows this Congress to oversee the gentleman from California? Chairman, Subcommittee on Criminal funding that we appropriated. Mr. Justice, Drug Policy, and Human Resources. There was no objection. Chairman, I will insert for the RECORD Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield the letters that have been sent by the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, myself such time as I may consume. gentleman from Indiana (Mr. SOUDER). OFFICE OF LEGAL COUNSEL, Before I comment substantively on I would conclude my remarks with a September 20, 2004. the gentleman’s amendment, let me request for support for this amend- Hon. Alex M. Azar II, pay tribute to the gentleman from New General Counsel, Department of Health and ment. Jersey (Chairman SMITH) for his lead- Human Services, Washington, DC. ership in this House in our joined fight HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DEAR ALEX: I understand that earlier this against trafficking. COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM, year the Department of Health and Human Mr. Chairman, there is no disagree- Washington, DC, February 11, 2005. Services (HHS) asked the Department of Jus- Hon. CONDOLEEZZA RICE, tice (DOJ) whether HHS could implement ment among Members of this body as Secretary of State, Department of State, Harry S certain provisions of the TVPRA and of the to whether overseas recipients of U.S. Truman Building, Washington, DC. AIDS Act. At this time, I understand that HIV/AIDS funds should be promoting DOJ gave its tentative advice that the so- DEAR MS. SECRETARY: Attached you will called ‘‘organization restrictions’’ set forth prostitution or trafficking. They obvi- find a letter dated October 22, 2004, in which ously should not. To this end, in the in 23 U.S.C.A. § 7110()(2) and 22 U.S.C.A. the State Department was asked to provide § 7631(f) could, under the Constitution, be ap- original HIV/AIDS legislation Congress the Subcommittee with a listing of any required that any grantee or sub- plied only to foreign organizations acting grants that have been awarded under the au- overseas. grantee legally certify that they have a thority of the United States Leadership We have reviewed the matter further and written policy against prostitution and Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Ma- are withdrawing that tentative advice. The trafficking. laria Act of 2003 or the Trafficking Victims statures are clear on their face that the or- This amendment, if approved, will Protection Reauthorization Act of 2003 that ganization restrictions were intended by place an onerous burden on the thinly did not fully comply with anti-prostitution Congress to apply without the limitations staffed administrators of the global and sex trafficking provisions therein. identified in our earlier advice. We have con- HIV/AIDS program to prepare within 90 The deadline for the provision of this infor- sulted with the Civil Division and, in these mation, November 1, 2004, has long passed. circumstances, given that the provisions do days a report listing hundreds of grants not raise separation of powers concerns and Please update the Subcommittee regarding and subgrants and retrieving policy that there are reasonable arguments to sup- the status of this request by Wednesday, statements from each one to satisfy port their constitutionality, we believe that February 16, 2005. the amendment. If Congress wants to HHS may implement these provisions. If the Sincerely, set forth specific and reasonable guide- provisions are challenged in court, the De- MARK E. SOUDER, lines for NGOs to follow, that is a dif- partment stands ready to defend their con- Chairman, Subcommittee on Criminal stitutionality in accordance with its long- ferent matter and should be addressed Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources. appropriately. standing practice of defending congressional enactments under such circumstances. Mr. Chairman, because I support the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Please do not hesitate to contract me if intent of this amendment, I will not COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM, you have any further questions. I apologize oppose it, but I believe that there are Washington, DC, October 22, 2004. for any confusion or inconvenience cause by less burdensome ways to achieve this Hon. COLIN POWELL, our earlier tentative advice. end, particularly by allowing for a Secretary of State, Department of State, Harry S Sincerely, greater period of time to prepare this Truman Building, Washington, DC. DANIEL LEVIN, Acting Assistant Attorney General. information. I hope we will have a DEAR MR. SECRETARY: According to the chance to work out appropriate lan- United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, guage in conference. Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 (Public COMMITTE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM, Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- Law 108–25), funds must not be used ‘‘to pro- Washington, DC, July 15, 2005. ance of my time. mote or advocate the legalization or practice Hon. CONDOLEEZZA RICE, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- of prostitution or sex trafficking’’ and orga- Secretary of State, Department of State, Wash- man, I yield such time as he may con- nizations must have a policy ‘‘explicitly op- ington, DC. sume to the distinguished gentleman posing prostitution and sex trafficking.’’ (ci- DEAR MADAM SECRETARY: On October 22, tations are provided in the attached copy of from Iowa (Mr. KING), who is actually 2004, and again on February 11, 2005, the the Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) guidance the prime sponsor of this amendment. State Department was asked to provide the on the enforcement of this law). Subcommittee with information relating to Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I grants awarded under he authority of the thank the gentleman from New Jersey On July 8th of this year, an amendment to the FY05 Committee, Justice, State Appro- United States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, (Mr. SMITH) for picking up this amend- priations specifically reiterating this policy Turberculosis, and Malaria Act of 2003 [Pub- ment and introducing it on my behalf. passed in the House by an overwhelming 306 lic Law 108–25]. I introduced this amendment on behalf to 115 vote. Now, nine months later, I find it necessary of the gentleman from Indiana (Mr. to file amendments on the State Department Proper implementation of this provision of authorization bill with the House Rules SOUDER), and we have all been working law is critical because it guarantees that our Committee to provide your Department on this same cause; it has to do with surrogates in foreign countries are not giv- some additional incentives for its full co- sex trafficking and the dehumanization ing mixed messages to the victims of pros- operation with the oversight requests made that comes from sex trafficking, Mr. titution and sex-trafficking. Although the by this subcommittee. Chairman. guidance attached to this letter is addressed By August 22, 2005 (ten months to the day I will just add to this debate that we to the Department of Health and Human of my original request) I ask that the fol- know that it is dehumanizing and it is Services, the Department of Justice has in- lowing information be provided to the Sub- against the policy of the United States. formed us that copies of this letter were pro- committee (both paper and electronic cop- There was legislation that was intro- vided to your agency and is binding upon it. ies): an Excel spreadsheet containing, in sep- arate cells, the names and addresses, and No later than November 1, please provide duced last year that went into the Fed- points of contact of all Non-Governmental the Subcommittee a listing of any grants eral code that would prohibit any funds Organizations which, after the date of enact- that have been awarded under the authority from going to organizations that do ment of Public Law 108–25, received funding of the United States Leadership Against not have a policy specifically opposing under authority of the President’s Emer- HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria Act of gency Plan for AIDS Relief or the United sex trafficking and prostitution. But 2003 or the Trafficking Victims Protection States Leadership Against HIV/AIDS, Tuber- we have not gotten a report back from Reauthorization Act of 2003 that did not culosis, and Malaria Act of 2003. The spread- the Secretary of State’s office, in spite fully comply with the above-cited provisions sheet must include the dates on which fund- or the OLC guidance of September 20, 2004. of the fact that there have been a num- ing was awarded, the date the identified Non- ber of letters written, by the gen- As the next round of AIDS grant proposals Governmental Organizations filed state- tleman from Indiana (Mr. SOUDER) in are submitted, I remain confident that you ments with the Federal government assert- particular, requesting that report. will see to it that the grants are imple- ing the Non-Governmental Organization has

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00012 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.025 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6121 a policy ‘‘explicitly opposing prostitution of infection because it restricts their ability human rights of people who inject drugs,’’ and sex trafficking,’’ and paper and elec- to ask for information about sex out of fear linking it to the ‘‘undermining [of] HIV pre- tronic copies of the statements of the Non- that they will be thought to be sexually ac- vention efforts.’’ If the sponsors of this code Governmental Organizations arraigned al- tive.’’ Gupta also objects to the seriously believe that legalizing drug use and phabetically. ‘‘stigamatizing [of] sex workers’’ because it making drugs and equipment available—pro- If there are any questions, please contact ‘‘increase[es] their vulnerability to infection tecting the ‘‘human rights’’ of drug users— Malia Holst, clerk of the subcommittee. and violence. will prevent the spread of HIV, then we can- Sincerely, The Alliance is the third CORE consortium not understand why USAID would contract MARK E. SOUDER, organization of concern. The Administra- with these organizations. Chairman, Subcommittee on Criminal tion’s own policy may prohibit this group Furthermore, the code advances the legal- Justice, Drug Policy and Human Resources. from receiving government grants because of ization of prostitution, stating that ‘‘the its veiled support for the legalization of pros- stigma associated with sex work in many July 15, 2005. titution. The Alliance appears to be the van- countries around the world creates signifi- Hon. ANDREW NATSIOS, guard of prostitution legalization efforts cant barriers to sexual health and HIV pre- Administrator, United States Agency for Inter- through its many activities. In one instance, vention efforts among sex workers and their national Development, Ronald Reagan it employs two highly placed associates of clients. . . . Supporting sex workers, includ- Building, Pennsylvania Avenue, NW., the Network of Sex Work Projects, an out- ing through collective action, empowers Washington DC. spoken pro-prostitution advocacy group. In them to negotiate transactions, and address DEAR MR. ADMINISTRATOR: As Members of another instance, the Alliance purposefully the health and social contexts that increase Congress who advocate for the faith commu- organizes with pro-prostitution groups. their vulnerability to HIV infection.’’ Appar- nity, we write to express our deep concern Nonetheless, USAID is working with the Al- ently, the code considers the legalization of about the way in which the United States liance to implement the Administration’s prostitution to be a way to improve HIV pre- Agency for International Development HIV/AIDS policy among faith-based groups. vention efforts. Such policy statements are clearly con- (USAID) is implementing the Communities The fourth disturbing CORE consortium trary to American foreign policy and offen- Responding to the HIV/AIDS Epedemic member is the WCC. With a reputation for sive to a vast majority of religious adherents (CORE). As a pillar of the Administration’s more than half a century of unrelenting crit- the world over—though they are made by faith-based outreach abroad, CORE is an in- icism of the United States, WCC consistently contractors for the Administration’s central novative initiative that partners USAID seeks to undermine American foreign policy. A study published in 2004 by the well-re- faith-based response to the HIV/AIDS policy. with faith communities to address the HIV/ Any reasonable pre-award evaluation by AIDS epidemic. garded Institute on Religion and Democracy surveyed WCC’s public statements on human USAID of its contractors should have con- CORE’s operating consortium is composed fronted the records of CARE, ICRW, the Alli- rights over the past several years. The report of five groups including CARE USA, the ance and WCC. If such an evaluation failed to discovered that 21% of all WCC complaints World Council of Churches (WCC), the Inter- uncover the concerns we have enumerated about human rights were directed against national Center for Research on Women above, we must question USAID’s procedures the United States and 43% were directed (ICRW), the International HIV/AIDS Alliance for selecting its contractors. We would be against Israel, though WCC cited no human (the Alliance), and the Johns Hopkins most concerned, however, to learn that rights violations in China. Apparently, WCC Bloomberg School of Public Health/Center USAID had initiated its collaboration with believes that China is not culpable for any for Communication Programs. We draw your these CORE consortium members with full violation of human rights, while the United attention to the first four organizations be- knowledge of their policy positions. cause their policies often run contrary to States and Israel account for two-thirds of U.S. government outreach to the range of U.S. HIV/AIDS policy and frequently pro- the world’s violations. This is a distortion of faith-based communities delivered by anti- mote policies that are offensive to people of the meaning of ‘‘human rights.’’ American, anti-abstinence, pro-prostitution faith. Astonishingly, such propagandistic con- and pro-drug use groups should not be al- Most disconcerting is the consortium’s pri- demnation is not an isolated incident. WCC lowed to undermine the work of the Admin- mary contractor, CARE USA. The President issued a statement which linked the tsunami istration. Organizations entrusted with tax- of CARE, Peter Bell, has signed public at- in the Indian Ocean to the U.S. refusal to payers’ money and charged with a mission to tacks on the Administration’s pro-life poli- sign the Kyoto Protocol on Global Warming. represent our nation to people abroad must cies, calling them ‘‘undemocratic’’ and ‘‘un- After September 11, WCC General Secretary themselves represent the values inherent in ethical’’—and this is only the beginning of Konrad Raiser attacked the U.S. war against American foreign policy. CARE’s opposition to American policy. terrorism as ‘‘outside the rule of law,’’ and Thank you for considering these views, and CARE’s programs in India, most notably claimed that our anti-terrorism efforts have for your work to ensure that people of faith the Sonagachi Project in Calcutta, have pro- led to the ‘‘harsh suppression’’ of the ‘‘peo- may participate fully in the public square. moted a pro-prostitution agenda. Samarjit ple’s struggles for social justice’’ because Mr. SOUDER. Mr. Chairman, I rise in sup- Jana, CARE’s Assistant Country Director in they appear as ‘‘potential manifestations of India, is one of the world’s leading crusaders terrorism.’’ Raiser also dismissed the trag- port of the amendment offered by my friend for the legalization of prostitution for the edy of September 11, stating that it would and colleague, Representative STEVE KING. right of HIV-infected prostitutes to have sex ‘‘create a sense of solidarity in pain with This amendment seeks to obtain information without a condom. those who had been exposed to the structural necessary for Congressional oversight of State In Lesotho, CARE and USAID funding to violence of a global economic system which Department activities, to ensure that the Con- campaign for a so-called ‘‘rights-based’’ ap- serves the interests of a minority of rich peo- gressional policy against prostitution and proach to prostitution—in other words, for ple and countries. human trafficking for the sex trade is reflected legalization of prostitution and its cultural Last year, three of USAID’s CORE consor- by those activities. tium members (CARE, the International acceptance as a legitimate form of employ- The King amendment will assist the Con- ment. Despite the Administration’s policy HIV/AIDS Alliance and the World Council of directive that all grantees of taxpayer mon- Churches) joined with eight other organiza- gress in ensuring compliance with current law. ies for work overseas must pledge to oppose tions to produce a so-called ‘‘Code of Good Specifically, this amendment would require a the legalization of prostitution, CARE con- Practice for NGOs Responding to HIV/ report (within 90 days) describing by name all tinues to lead the CORE consortium. AIDS,’’ which includes statements antithet- non-governmental organizations (NGOs) which We are also concerned about the policies of ical to American policy. The document received funding for AIDS relief after the en- ICRW, another CORE member. In 2001, ICRW states that, ‘‘In the context of individual be- actment of the President’s Emergency Plan for held a conference to plan strategy for an havior change, abstinence, fidelity and use of AIDS Relief or the United States Leadership agenda that included the legalization of condoms all have a role to play in reducing Against HIV/AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria prostitution. Its pro-prostitution stance is HIV transmission. However, it is critical radical that ICRW even objected to the late that abstinence and fidelity are not pro- Act of 2003 (Public Law 108–25). That law re- Senator Paul Wellstone’s Trafficking Vic- moted as the preferred approach, with quired that any recipient of funding under the tims Protection Act (S. 1842, 106th Congress) condoms as a last resort, thereby stigma- act have taken an official, public stand oppos- because ‘‘the legislation does not currently tizing [sic] condom use.’’ ing the legalization of prostitution. distinguish between forced prostitution and The code also calls for ‘‘the full range of Regrettably, many NGOs involved in AIDS- voluntary prostitution. Thus [ICRW argued] prevention options’’ to be available to inject- related work have promoted legalizing prostitu- it may be used as a punitive measure against ing drug users ‘‘in a manner that is free of tion, in the misguided belief that this will voluntary sex workers. judgment,’’ including ‘‘utilizing [sic] non-in- somehow reduce the spread of AIDS. In fact, ICRW also holds other policy views that jecting methods of drug use and effective use promoting prostitution not only threatens to in- most faith-based groups would find offensive. of sterile injecting equipment.’’ The code ICRW president Geeta Rao Gupta is a strong states that ‘‘the illegality and stigma associ- crease risky sexual behavior and thereby critic of abstinence programs, arguing that ated with injecting drug use invariably lead worsen the AIDS epidemic, it also legitimizes ‘‘the traditional norm of virginity for un- to discrimination against people who use this degrading ‘‘business’’ that has enslaved married girls that exists in many societies, drugs and create barriers to accessing serv- so many women and children in the Third paradoxically, increase young women’s risk ices’’ and protests the ‘‘failure to protect the World and elsewhere.

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00013 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.008 H20JYPT1 H6122 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 Despite the enactment of Public Law 108– (10) On July 30, 1997, United States citizen of New Square, New York, and Shmuel 25, we have learned that the State Depart- Leah Stern of Passaic, New Jersey, was Taubenfeld, 3 months, of New Square, New ″ ment in fact awarded grants to NGOs that killed in a Hamas bombing in Jerusalem s York, were killed in a homicide bombing on Mahane Yehuda market. support legalizing prostitution. The Department a bus in Jerusalem. (11) On September 4, 1997, a Hamas bomb- (35) On September 9, 2003, a homicide has refused, however, to provide a complete ing on Ben-Yehuda Street, Jerusalem, killed bomber killed United States citizens David accounting of this funding. Hence, this amend- Yael Botwin, 14, of Los Angeles. Applebaum, 51, originally of Cleveland, and ment would require the State Department to (12) On April 19, 1998, an attack near the Nava Applebaum, 20, originally of Cleveland, inform Congress about the dates on which Israeli town of Maon killed United States in a cafe in Jerusalem. funding was awarded, the date each identified citizen Dov Dribben, 28. (36) On October 15, 2003, United States citi- NGO filed a statement with the Federal Gov- (13) On October 8, 2000, Rabbi Hillel zens John Branchizio, 36, of San Antonio, ernment asserting the NGO has a policy ‘‘ex- Lieberman, 36, of New York City, was Texas, John Martin Linde, Jr., 30, of Wash- stabbed and killed near Nablus. ington, Missouri, and Mark T. Parson, 31, of plicitly opposing prostitution and sex traf- (14) On October 30, 2000, United States cit- ficking,’’ and a copy of the statement. the State of New York were killed in a car izen Esh-Kodesh Gilmore, 25, was shot in Je- bombing in Gaza. ING Mr. Chairman, I thank Congressman K rusalem. (37) On September 24, 2004, a mortar strike for his efforts on this important issue, and I (15) On December 31, 2000, Rabbi Binyamin on a housing community killed Tiferet urge my colleagues to support this amend- Kahane, 34, and his wife, Talia Hertzlich Tratner, 24, a dual United States-Israeli cit- ment. Kahane, both formerly of New York City, izen. Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- were killed in a drive-by shooting near Ofra. (38) At least another 83 United States citi- man, I yield back the balance of my (16) On May 9, 2001, Jacob ‘‘Koby’’ Mandell, zens have been injured in Palestinian ter- time. 13, of Silver Spring, Maryland, was killed in rorist attacks. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- an attack near Tekoah. (39) Palestinian terrorism continues to tion is on the amendment offered by (17) On May 29, 2001, Sarah Blaustein, 53, of happen as demonstrated by the bombing in Lawrence, New York, was killed in a drive- the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. Tel Aviv on February 25, 2005, despite the re- by shooting near Efrat. cent elections and a new sense of optimism SMITH). (18) On August 9, 2001, two United States in the region. The amendment was agreed to. citizens, Judith L. Greenbaum, 31, and Malka The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in (40) The United States is willing to con- Roth, 15, were killed in the Jerusalem Sbarro tinue to work with Palestinian leaders under order to consider amendment No. 22 pizzeria bombing. the condition that the newly elected Pales- printed in part B of House Report 109– (19) On November 4, 2001, Shoshana Ben- tinian leadership reject and take verifiable 175. Yishai, 16, of New York City, was shot and steps to prevent terrorism. killed during an attack on a Jerusalem bus. AMENDMENT NO. 22 OFFERED BY MR. KING OF (b) STATEMENT OF POLICY.—Congress— (20) On January 15, 2002, Avraham Boaz, 72, IOWA (1) condemns the attacks on United States of New York City, was killed in a shooting Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I citizens by Palestinian terrorists and de- near Bethlehem. mands that the Palestinian Authority work offer an amendment. (21) On January 18, 2002, United States cit- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk with Israel to protect all innocent individ- izen Aaron Elis, 32, was killed in a shooting uals, regardless of citizenship, from terrorist will designate the amendment. in Hadera. The text of the amendment is as fol- atrocities; and (22) On February 8, 2002, United States cit- (2) offers its condolences to the families lows: izen Moranne Amit, 25, was killed in a stab- and loved ones of United States citizens who Amendment No. 22 offered by Mr. KING of bing in Abu Tor Peace Forest, Jerusalem. were killed by Palestinian terrorist attacks. Iowa: (23) On February 15, 2002, United States cit- Page 312, after line 8, insert the following izen Lee Akunis, was shot and killed near The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to new section: Ramallah. House Resolution 365, the gentleman SEC. 1110A. STATEMENT OF POLICY REGARDING (24) On February 16, 2002, Keren Shatsky, from Iowa (Mr. KING) and a Member op- THE ATTACKS ON UNITED STATES 14, of New York City and Maine, and Rachel posed each will control 5 minutes. CITIZENS BY PALESTINIAN TERROR- Thaler, 16, of Baltimore, Maryland, were The Chair recognizes the gentleman ISTS. killed in a bombing in Karnei Shomron. from Iowa (Mr. KING). (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- (25) On March 24, 2002, Esther Kleinman, 23, Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I lowing: formerly of Chicago, was shot and killed yield myself such time as I may con- (1) Since the late Yasser Arafat renounced near Ofra. violence in the Oslo Peace Accords on Sep- (26) On March 27, 2002, United States cit- sume. tember 13, 1993, at least 53 United States citi- izen Hannah Rogen, 90, was killed in a bomb- Mr. Chairman, I rise to urge support zens, including one unborn child, have been ing at a hotel Passover seder in Netanya. of this amendment which condemns the murdered by Palestinian terrorists. (27) On June 18, 2002, Moshe Gottlieb, 70, of attacks made by radical Muslims since (2) On December 1, 1993, in a drive-by Los Angeles, was killed in a bus bombing in the Oslo Peace Accords in September shooting north of Jerusalem, Hamas killed Jerusalem. of 1993. These attacks claimed the lives United States citizen Yitzhak Weinstock, 19, (28) On June 19, 2002, United States citizen of 53, at least 53 innocent American whose family came from Los Angeles. Gila Sara Kessler, 19, was killed in a bomb- victims and at least one unborn child (3) On October 9, 1994, Hamas kidnapped ing at a Jerusalem bus stop. in Israel. and murdered United States citizen (29) On July 31, 2002, five United States My amendment is simple in proce- Nachshon Wachsman, 19, whose family came citizens were killed in a bombing of a Hebrew from New York City. University cafeteria: Marla Bennett, 24, of dure, but it is sincere in its substance. (4) On April 9, 1995, an Islamic Jihad bomb San Diego, Benjamin Blutstein, 25, of Sus- It honors those innocent Americans attack on a bus near Kfar Darom killed quehanna Township, Pennsylvania, Janis that have fallen victim to the terror of United States citizen Alisa Flatow, 20, from Ruth Coulter, 36, of Massachusetts, David radical Islam by listing each victim’s West Orange, New Jersey. Gritz, 24, of Peru, Massachusetts (and of dual name, age, place of residence, location (5) On August 21, 1995, in a Hamas bus French-United States citizenship), and Dina of his or her death, and the cause of bombing in Jerusalem, United States citizen Carter, 37, of North Carolina. their death. My amendment also de- Joan Davenny, from New Haven, Con- (30) On March 5, 2003, Abigail Leitel, 14, mands that the Palestinian Authority necticut, was killed. who was born in Lebanon, New Hampshire, work with Israel to protect all inno- (6) On September 9, 1995, Mara Frey of Chi- died in a bus bombing in Haifa. cago was stabbed in Ma‘‘ale Michmash re- (31) On March 7, 2003, a shooting occurred cent individuals, regardless of citizen- sulting in her unborn child’’s death. in the home of United States citizens Rabbi ship, from terrorist atrocities. (7) On February 25, 1996, three United Eli Horowitz, 52, who grew up in Chicago, We should honor the victims killed States citizens, Sara Duker of Teaneck, New and Dina Horowitz, 50, who grew up in Flor- by terrorists in Israel and all over the Jersey, Matthew Eisenfeld of West Hartford, ida, and both were killed. world with the same spirit that we Connecticut, and Ira Weinstein of New York (32) On June 11, 2003, Alan Beer, 47, who have honored our victims of September City, were killed in a Hamas bus bombing in grew up in Cleveland, was killed in a bus 11. The September 11 victims and those Jerusalem. bombing in Jerusalem. killed in Israel are all victims of rad- (8) On May 13, 1996, United States citizen (33) On June 20, 2003, a shooting attack on ical Islam and, sadly, the death toll David Boim, 17, of New York City, was killed a car driving through the West Bank killed in a drive-by shooting near Beit El, north of United States citizen Tzvi Goldstein, 47, who continues to rise as evidenced by the Jerusalem. grew up in the State of New York. recent London bombings of July 7. (9) On June 9, 1996, United States citizen (34) On August 19, 2003, Mordechai Reinitz, The terrorists who attacked us on Yaron Ungar was killed in a drive-by shoot- 49, Yitzhak Reinitz, 9, Tehilla Nathanson, 3, 9/11 are the same kind of terrorists who ing near Beit Shemesh. of Monsey, New York, Goldie Taubenfeld, 43, blow themselves up on buses or in

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:27 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00014 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.019 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6123 crowded shopping areas in Israel and I urge all of my colleagues to join in representatives to the United Nations kill our soldiers on the streets of Bagh- supporting this resolution. and other international organizations dad. Terrorism does not discriminate Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance to commence negotiations on an inter- between women and men or between of my time. national treaty banning space-based children and adults. This is because Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I weapons. Though the U.S. and the terrorists hate freedom and worship yield myself such time as I may con- former Soviet Union long dominated death. It is with heavy hearts that we sume. the use of space, currently many states as freedom-loving people are bound to- I thank the gentleman from Cali- are investing in space assets and have gether across language barriers and re- fornia (Mr. LANTOS) for his remarks developed or are developing the ability ligious beliefs. Together, we fight rad- and his support and his defense for the to use space peacefully. ical Islam which preaches a culture of freedom and the safety of people across Serious multilateral discussions death. this globe for decades. I say to the gen- about rules of the road for space are My amendment is a small, heartfelt tleman, as to the small part that I add needed. This is especially important measure to honor those Americans to the effort that he has brought, I feel for the United States, as we own and killed in Israel by radical Islamists. I it a privilege to be standing on this operate the vast majority of satellites am hopeful that it will send a message floor together with the gentleman orbiting today, and space has become to their loved ones that we are all in speaking for freedom and safety of critical to U.S. economic, scientific, this together. Our fight to defend our freedom-loving people everywhere. We and military interests. Continuing the God-given rights to freedom will honor so often and so easily forget that there peaceful use of space will require re- fined international laws for space- those who have died at the hands of the are people dying in the Middle East faring States. The legal framework ad- culture of death and properly preserve that do not show up on the front page dressing the weaponization of space is our freedom for future generations. of our papers, and we stand with the far from comprehensive. I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on this amend- people in Israel, we stand with all free- The international community, in- ment, Mr. Chairman. dom-loving people. cluding Russia, China, Canada, and the Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance I urge a ‘‘yes’’ vote on this amend- EU, support creating a ban on weapons of my time. ment that honors them. through a treaty to ban weapons from Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I do not Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- outer space. The United Nations has oppose this amendment, and I ask ance of my time. called for peace in space. unanimous consent to claim the time Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield For nearly a half century, the coop- in opposition. back the balance of my time. erative and peaceful uses of space have The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- yielded immense benefits to humans jection to the request of the gentleman tion is on the amendment offered by worldwide. Despite Cold War tensions from California? the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. KING). and the technical capability to do so, There was no objection. The question was taken; and the Act- no nation has deployed destructive Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield ing Chairman announced that the ayes weapons in space or destroyed the sat- myself such time as I may consume. appeared to have it. ellites of another nation. I want to commend my friend from Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Speaker, I demand The policy of preserving peace in Iowa for offering this amendment. As a recorded vote. space has not only been an inter- the amendment soberly points out, 52 The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to national policy, Mr. Chairman, it has American citizens have been murdered clause 6 of rule XXVIII, further pro- also been a national policy. The Na- by Palestinian terrorists since the PLO ceedings on the amendment offered by tional Aeronautic and Space Act forswore the use of violence in the 1993 the gentleman from Iowa (Mr. KING) passed in 1958 stated that it ‘‘is the pol- Oslo Accords. will be postponed. icy of the United States that activities This amendment acts, in effect, as a It is now in order to consider amend- in space should be devoted to peaceful memorial, recording the name of each ment No. 23 printed in part B of House purposes for the benefit of all man- victim and offering condolences to Report 109–175. kind.’’ their families. AMENDMENT NO. 23 OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH Yet despite any amendment to law or It also demands that the Palestinian Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, I offer consideration by Congress, the policy Authority work with Israel to protect an amendment. of preserving peace in space changed all innocent individuals, of whatever The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk significantly, behind closed doors. citizenship, from terrorist atrocities. will designate the amendment. b 1145 This is an important message at any The text of the amendment is as fol- Why this policy has changed is a time, but particularly now as Israel lows: mystery. No other country has taken prepares to undertake a historic dis- Amendment No. 23 offered by Mr. KUCINICH: any steps to develop space-based weap- engagement from the Gaza Strip. The Page 312, after line 8, insert the following ons. Space assets of the United States Palestinian Authority must do its best, new section: have received no national security and it certainly has not done so lately, SEC. 1110A. INTERNATIONAL TREATY BANNING threats. Our national security threats to ensure that this disengagement SPACE-BASED WEAPONS AND THE are far from outer space. They are on takes place in an orderly fashion and USE OF WEAPONS AGAINST OBJECTS IN SPACE IN ORBIT. the ground. Yet, with little public de- not under a hail of grenades and bate, the Pentagon has already spent Kassam rockets that would only cast The President shall direct the United States representatives to the United Nations billions of dollars developing space doubt on the viability of a Palestinian and other international organizations to im- weapons and preparing plans to deploy controlled Gaza as a neighbor for mediately work toward negotiating, adopt- them. Israel. ing, and implementing an international trea- The Air Force has recently sought Mr. Chairman, I hope the Palestinian ty banning space-based weapons and the use President Bush’s approval of a national Authority takes the antiterrorist mes- of weapons to destroy or damage objects in security directive that could move the sage of this resolution to heart. space that are in orbit. U.S. closer to fielding space weapons. Let me also say, Mr. Chairman, that The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to This new policy would alienate our as our distinguished Secretary of House Resolution 365, the gentleman friends and mobilize our potential en- State, Dr. Condoleeza Rice, leaves for from Ohio (Mr. KUCINICH) and a Mem- emies. the region she could not be going at a ber opposed each will control 5 min- Moving forward with plans to more appropriate and urgent time, and utes. weaponize space would create an arms she fully understands that her prime The Chair recognizes the gentleman race in space. It would be counter- responsibility is to make it clear to the from Ohio (Mr. KUCINICH). productive to U.S. national security to Palestinian Authority that it must Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, I yield give potential adversaries reasons to guarantee order and peace by using its myself such time as I may consume. accelerate development of space weap- military forces in Gaza to break the The Kucinich amendment would re- ons technology. Pursuing space weap- back of militant terrorist groups. quire the President to direct the U.S. ons would also bankrupt our Nation

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00015 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.027 H20JYPT1 H6124 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 with a hefty price tag of up to $1 tril- Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, I have tion, in addition to being so helpful, as lion according to published studies by the right to close. I will continue to re- a matter of fact, very necessary to our leading weapons scientists, physicists, serve the balance of my time. military. It is a multibillion dollar and engineers. The financial repercus- Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I yield economy. If we were to go blind in sions of a space-based weapons system 1 minute to the gentleman from Ala- space, if for some reason someone would trickle down to every sector of bama (Mr. CRAMER). should shut down our assets in space, our society: our national security, Mr. CRAMER. Mr. Chairman, I appre- you would not be able to use a cell economy, health care, education, social ciate the gentleman from Alabama, my phone. You would not be able to use services, and foreign policy. colleague and friend, yielding to me. I any communications, television or any It would be very easy to prevent the join with the gentleman in opposition other kind of communications. You inevitable catastrophe that would re- to this amendment. would not be able to use your ATM ma- sult from an armed race in space. The As my colleague knows, just this chine. It would literally cause this en- United States, the only country mov- morning we were at a Space Power tire country to go blind. ing forward with plans to put weapons Caucus breakfast. My colleague has This is not a well-conceived amend- in space, despite any national security emphasized that we have a tremendous ment. I do not know the purpose of the threat, would need to stop in its tracks amount invested in our space assets. It amendment. I know the gentleman is and work with other nations to nego- would be a shame and actually worse not on the House Armed Services Com- tiate an international legal framework than that to have those assets jeopard- mittee. I know he is also not on the In- for the peaceful use of space. ized. telligence Committee. And I just would Support the Kucinich amendment to I think this amendment harms our have to say I am not real certain of the commence negotiations for an inter- ability to protect our assets in space. gentleman’s knowledge of this subject. national treaty banning space-based We have assets out there that are pro- Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, I yield weapons. This country should not tecting us, giving us intelligence infor- myself such time as I may consume. make of the planet Earth a death star. mation, protecting us, giving us weath- If the gentleman had the opportunity We need to support international co- er information. And I think this to read the amendment, he would see operation for the peaceful use of tech- amendment charts a dangerous course that it has to do with commencing ne- nology in space. Support the Kucinich that would not allow us to continue to gotiations on an international treaty amendment. invest money in research and develop- banning space-based weapons. The U.S. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance ment and protect those assets. I think Space Command has a program called of my time. we should oppose this amendment. Vision 2020 which really is about U.S. Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, how domination of space. claim the time in opposition. much time is remaining? Now, the American people ought to The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. SHAW). The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- know whether their Members of Con- The gentleman from Alabama (Mr. tleman from Alabama has 2 minutes gress are prepared to spend up to a tril- EVERETT) is recognized for 5 minutes. left. The gentleman from Ohio has 1 lion dollars so we start the next arms Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I yield minute left. race in outer space. This is apart from myself such time as I may consume. Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I yield the issue of protecting our Nation with I rise today in opposition to this 30 seconds to the gentleman from New antiballistic missiles. It is a whole dif- amendment. This amendment attempts Jersey (Mr. SMITH). ferent debate. This is about taking the to commit the United States to a pol- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- arms race into outer space. And what I icy that would be detrimental to our man, I rise in very strong opposition to am asking for is for an international national security. U.S. space assets un- the Kucinich amendment. A key ele- treaty where all nations would agree derpin the economic livelihood of our ment in a robust defense against bal- we should not do that. Nation and provide critical capabilities listic missiles is the deployment of But some in this Congress want to for our warfighters around the world. It space-based weapons to intercept them take weapons to go to outer space so would be irresponsible not to ensure in flight. We are talking about in all the United States can control the that we have the means to protect cases nonnuclear interceptors to stop world from outer space. Mr. Chairman, these assets and our troops. We should an incoming nuclear device. that is simply nuts. And what I am not be forced to enter into an agree- I think the amendment, while well suggesting is that we ought to be talk- ment that would prematurely tie our intentioned, and I respect the gen- ing to other nations about eliminating hands from the ability to freely and tleman from Ohio, is very counter- an arms race in outer space to protect peacefully operate in space. productive and puts our cities and our future generations. You know, a long, This Congress and the administration population at risk. I strongly oppose long time ago in a galaxy far, far away are seriously concerned with the poten- this amendment and urge my col- people were not talking about killing tial problems we have with our existing leagues to defeat it. each other. We should be talking about space satellites, both economically and Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I yield a treaty to ban weapons in space. militarily. As a Member of the House myself such time as I may consume. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- Armed Services Committee and chair- The gentleman from Texas (Mr. tion is on the amendment offered by man of the Subcommittee on Strategic REYES), who is the ranking member of the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. Forces, we have had several sessions in my committee, unfortunately or fortu- KUCINICH). order to fully understand how to best nately we have moved the discussion The question was taken; and the Act- protect these assets. We are currently this morning on this bill forward kind ing Chairman announced that the noes engaged in constructive discussions on of rapidly. And I am at liberty to say appeared to have it. how to best proceed on this very com- that he was going to also oppose this Mr. EVERETT. Mr. Chairman, I de- plex issue. The American people de- amendment. As I said, the gentleman mand a recorded vote. serve and the Congress must engage in from Texas (Mr. REYES) is the ranking The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to the first ever national discussion on member of the strategic subcommittee. clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- space control before we can even begin And I might point out that the gen- ceedings on the amendment offered by to think of approaching the rest of the tleman from Alabama (Mr. CRAMER) is the gentleman from Ohio (Mr. world, as this amendment would have the ranking member of the Intelligence KUCINICH) will be postponed. us do. oversight committee. It is now in order to consider amend- This amendment forces a course that We do not even know what a weapon ment No. 24 printed in part B of House would greatly hamper our economy and in space is. We are having the first-ever Report 109–175. our national security. I strongly op- hearings in the history of this country AMENDMENT NO. 24 OFFERED BY MR. LANTOS pose this amendment and urge my col- to try to define the course of action Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I offer leagues to do the same. that we should take in the future re- an amendment. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance garding our space assets. Our space as- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk of my time. sets underpin the economy of our Na- will designate the amendment.

VerDate jul 14 2003 02:15 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00016 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.033 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6125 The text of the amendment is as fol- ment of this Act, the Secretary of State, in submit to the appropriate congressional lows: consultation with the Secretary of Homeland committees a report concerning trends in Security, the Secretary of Education, and the application and issuance rates for F–1 Amendment No. 24 offered by Mr. LANTOS: the Secretary of Commerce, shall develop a and J–1 visas at all diplomatic and consular Redesignate title XI as title XII and redes- comprehensive strategy to counter wide- missions of the United States providing con- ignate sections 1101 through 1126 as sections spread perceptions among foreign students sular services. 1201 through 1226, respectively. that the United States no longer welcomes (2) REPORT ELEMENTS.— Insert after title X the following new title: them to study in the United States or to par- (A) STATISTICAL INFORMATION.—The first TITLE XI—OPENING DOORS FOR FOREIGN ticipate in exchange programs, and to in- report submitted pursuant to this section STUDENTS crease applications by foreign students to shall contain data from the five-year period SEC. 1101. SHORT TITLE. come to the United States for study and ex- immediately preceding the date of the enact- This title may be cited as the ‘‘Opening change. Not later than 180 days after the ment of this Act. The second report shall Doors for Foreign Students Act of 2005’’. date of the enactment of this Act, the Sec- contain updated data covering the calendar SEC. 1102. FINDINGS. retary shall submit to the appropriate con- year preceding the issuance of the report and Congress finds the following: gressional committees a written account of comparisons with previous data. (1) Opening doors to well-intentioned for- this strategy. (B) BEST PRACTICES.—Each report shall (b) CONSULTATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS.— eign students and exchange visitors has contain a ‘‘Best Practices’’ section identi- Beginning not later than 180 days after date wide-ranging benefits to the United States. fying diplomatic or consular missions that of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary (2) Upon their return to their countries of have experienced a recovery in the rates of of State shall undertake annual consulta- origin, foreign students and exchange visi- such applications, such issuances, or both tions with individuals and organizations in- tors disseminate the core values of the after experiencing declines in the rates for volved in international education, including United States as they relate their positive such applications, such issuances, or both. consultations with nongovernmental institu- experiences with the democratic form of gov- For each diplomatic or consular mission so tions concerned with the recruitment of for- ernance, the dynamic multicultural society, identified, the report shall include post ac- eign students to the United States; officials and the entrepreneurial spirit of the United tivities that may have contributed to such from United States educational institutions States. recovery. concerned with the recruitment of foreign (3) The United States earns approximately (C) PRIORITY POSTS.—Each report shall also students, foreign student representatives, $13,000,000,000 a year in tuition and living ex- contain a section entitled ‘‘Priority Posts’’ nongovernmental organizations designated penses paid by foreign students, making that identifies critical diplomatic and con- by the Department of State as sponsors in higher education the United States’ fifth sular missions from key foreign policy coun- the Exchange Visitor Program, and other largest service export. tries that have experienced declines in the concerned parties for the purpose of dis- (4) Since the terrorist attacks on America rates of such applications, such issuances, or cussing and seeking input on the develop- on September 11, 2001, the United States in- both without experiencing a significant re- ment of the comprehensive strategy de- stitutions of higher education and non- covery in any of such rates. For each diplo- scribed in subsection (a). governmental exchange sponsors have faced matic or consular mission so identified, the great challenges in retaining their competi- SEC. 1104. IDENTIFICATION OF PRIORITY MIS- report shall contain an action plan that de- SIONS AND MISSIONS EMPLOYING scribes new initiatives, such as consular tive position in the market for foreign stu- BEST PRACTICES FOR ATTRACTING dents. services, public diplomacy, and public out- STUDENT VISA APPLICANTS. reach, that are designed to improve the rates (A) During the 2002–2003 academic year, the (a) REVIEW OF STUDENT VISA APPLICA- of such applications and such issuances. first year after the 9/11 attacks, the growth TIONS.—The Secretary of State shall review of overall international student enrollment SEC. 1105. ENHANCED TRAINING IN PROCESSING the application and issuance rates for F–1 AND FACILITATING STUDENT VISAS. in the United States slowed to 0.6 percent and J–1 nonimmigrant visas (issued under (a) TRAINING PROGRAMS.—Chapter 7 of the after having increased by 6.4 percent in the subparagraphs (F) and (J) of section Foreign Service Act of 1980 (22 U.S.C. 3901 et two previous academic years. During the 101(a)(15) of the Immigration and Nationality seq.) (relating to career development, train- 2003–2004 academic year, according to the In- Act (8 U.S.C. 1101(a)(15)) at every diplomatic ing, and orientation) is amended by adding stitute of International Education, the num- or consular mission of the United States pro- at the end the following new section: ber of international students studying in the viding consular services. Such review shall ‘‘SEC. 708. TRAINING IN PROCESSING AND FACILI- United States declined 2.4 percent to 572,509. encompass the five-year period immediately TATING VISA APPLICATIONS FOR This was the first overall decline in inter- preceding the date of the enactment of this STUDENTS AND EXCHANGE VISI- national students studying in the United Act and shall be used to identify missions TORS FOR STUDY IN THE UNITED States since the 1971–72 school year. that have experienced significant declines in STATES. (B) Community Colleges have been particu- such visa applications, the issuance of such ‘‘The Secretary shall establish a training larly hard-hit by overall declines in enroll- visas, or both, and shall also identify diplo- program for members of the Service who ments of foreign students. During the 2003– matic or consular missions that have experi- have responsibilities related to the issuance 2004 academic year, the number of foreign enced recovery in the rate of such applica- of visas to prepare such members for the students enrolled a public two-year schools tions or such issuances after experiencing unique challenges that visa applicants face fell by 10 percent, according to the Institute significant declines in such applications, in completing the F–1 and J–1 nonimmigrant of International Education. such issuances, or both. visa application process and to provide such (5) Some foreign students have expressed (b) OBTAINING INFORMATION ON BEST PRAC- members with proven tools, including in the anxiety and alarm about the new visa proc- TICES FOR GAINING INCREASES.—Upon identi- area of consular services, public diplomacy, esses. A survey conducted in 2004 at the Uni- fying diplomatic or consular missions that outreach to non-governmental institutions versity of California of 1,700 foreign students have experienced recoveries in the rates of and educational institutions, and public out- found that 60 percent reported that they had such visa applications, issuances, or both, reach to combat perceptions that the United to endure ‘‘unreasonable delays’’ to obtain the Secretary shall direct the chiefs of mis- States is no longer a welcoming place for for- student visas. sion of such missions to submit to the Sec- eign citizens to study or to participate in ex- (6) Competitors in the marketplace for retary a report concerning consular, public change programs.’’ higher education, including Canada, Aus- diplomacy, public outreach, or other prac- SEC. 1106. ENHANCED DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS TO tralia, New Zealand, Germany and the tices that may have contributed to such re- NEGOTIATE FAVORABLE RECIP- United Kingdom, are aggressively recruiting ROCAL AGREEMENTS WITH FOR- coveries. EIGN GOVERNMENTS CONCERNING students to take advantage of changed per- (c) CORRECTIVE MEASURES.—Upon identi- STUDENT VISA TERM LIMITS. ceptions of the United States. fying diplomatic or consular missions in key The Secretary of State should undertake a (7) If the United States is to regain its foreign policy countries that have suffered sustained diplomatic dialogue with key for- competitive advantage in attracting foreign significant declines in the rates of such ap- eign governments, including the Government students and exchange visitors, it will be es- plications, issuances, or both without experi- of the People’s Republic of China and the sential for the Department of State to work encing recovery in either or both of such Government of the Russian Federation, to ensure that new visa procedures are ad- rates in accordance with the review required aimed at renegotiating the terms of existing ministered in the most efficient and user- under subsection (a), the Secretary shall di- reciprocal agreements to provide for ex- friendly possible manner. Furthermore the rect the chiefs of mission of such missions to tended validity of student and exchange Department must continue to engage in pub- develop a plan appropriate to each such mis- visas in order to reduce the need for frequent lic outreach designed to dispel negative per- sion to attract additional F–1 and J–1 visa renewals of F–1 and J–1 nonimmigrant visas ceptions about study in the United States. applicants and to address any inefficiencies by foreign students. SEC. 1103. DEVELOPMENT OF A COMPREHENSIVE in processing visa applications specific to The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to STRATEGY TO ATTRACT FOREIGN each such mission. STUDENTS TO STUDY IN THE (d) REPORT.— House Resolution 365, the gentleman UNITED STATES. (1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 180 days from California (Mr. LANTOS) and a (a) DEVELOPMENT OF STRATEGY.—Not later after the date of the enactment of this Act, Member opposed will each control 5 than one year after the date of the enact- and one year thereafter, the Secretary shall minutes.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:05 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00017 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.036 H20JYPT1 H6126 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 The Chair recognizes the gentleman There was no objection. The text of the amendment is as fol- from California (Mr. LANTOS). Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- lows: Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield self such time as I may consume. Amendment No. 25 offered by Mr. MACK: myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I just want to say that Page 24, beginning line 4, add the following I want to offer my sincere thanks to we are delighted to accept this amend- new paragraph: the chairman of the International Re- ment. It is a far-reaching visionary (5) BROADCASTING TO VENEZUELA.—For lations Committee (Mr. HYDE), my dear help to public diplomacy, an area broadcasting to Venezuela, such sums as may be necessary for fiscal year 2006 and friend, for working closely with me in where we can use all the help in the a joint effort to tackle the critical such sums as may be necessary for fiscal world possible. year 2007, to remain available until ex- problem of declining rates of foreign I want to congratulate the gentleman pended, to allow the Broadcasting Board of students seeking to study in the United from California (Mr. LANTOS) on pro- Governors to carry out broadcasting to Ven- States. ducing this very useful, important ezuela for at least 30 minutes per day of bal- I also want to thank the gentle- amendment. And we are delighted to anced, objective, and comprehensive tele- woman from Minnesota (Ms. MCCOL- accept it. vision news programming, radio news pro- LUM), who has worked with us on this Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he gramming, or both. problem for years. may consume to the gentleman from The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Mr. Chairman, opening doors to well- New Jersey (Mr. SMITH). House Resolution 365, the gentleman intentioned foreign students is as crit- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- from Florida (Mr. MACK) and a Member ical to the security of the United man, I thank the distinguished gen- opposed each will control 5 minutes. States as is the task of identifying tleman for yielding. The Chair recognizes the gentleman those who are engaged in terrorism and I want to associate myself with the from Florida (Mr. MACK). other hostile acts against us. remarks of the gentleman from Illinois Mr. MACK. Mr. Chairman, I yield Foreign students who come to the (Chairman HYDE). This is a very cre- myself such time as I may consume. I United States to study and disseminate ative amendment; 9/11 should not mean want to thank Chairman HYDE and the core values of the American people that the welcome mat has been pulled. Ranking Member LANTOS for their as they relate their positive firsthand As the gentleman from California (Mr. strong leadership in moving this im- experience when they return to their LANTOS) points out in the amendment’s portant legislation forward. As a mem- countries of origin. ber of the International Relations The education of foreign students is a findings, $13 billion every year is earned from foreign students coming Committee, it has been an honor in my critical part of the United States econ- short career here to serve with both of omy as well, and it is a key American in. But it is not the money, per se, al- though that helps our colleges and uni- them and all of the members of the export. Not many people know, Mr. committee on this fine piece of legisla- Chairman, the United States earns $13 versities. It is the fact that these stu- dents have the opportunity to learn tion. billion a year in tuition and expenses As a new member of the committee, paid to us by foreign students. what democracy is all about, to learn what a capitalist system can produce I have closely followed the events in Since 9/11, U.S. colleges and univer- Latin America and particularly in Ven- sities have faced great challenges in re- for their people when they return. They can also learn skills that will ezuela. In fact, this weekend during his taining their competitive position in weekly radio and television program, the market for foreign students. These save lives in the area of medicine as well as in law and so many other areas. President Hugo Chavez urged Ven- challenges have begun to erode our ezuelans to embrace, and I quote, his dominance as the world’s leading and b 1200 21st century socialism. This is not sur- most desired destination for foreign prising considering that since he has students. During the 2003–2004 aca- It is a very, very creative amend- taken office in 1999, Chavez has forged demic year, according to the Institute ment, I think, and will lead to best strong relations with his Communist for International Education, the num- practices that will result in more stu- friend Fidel Castro. As part of his fiery ber of international students studying dents taking the good infection back to nationalist rhetoric, Chavez makes al- in the United States declined by al- their respective countries. I again want to congratulate the gentleman on this most daily verbal attacks against the most 21⁄2 percent. This was the first United States Government and against overall year-to-year decline in the excellent amendment. number of international students since Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, I yield freedom, calling it an imperialist men- the 1971–1972 school year. back the balance of my time. ace to world peace and accusing it of It appears, Mr. Chairman, that much Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I want trying to topple his regime and kill of the problem stems from negative to thank my good friends, Chairman him. misperceptions by potential foreign HYDE and Chairman SMITH, for their Most of us are concerned by Chavez’s students about new U.S. visa processes words and their comments. I hope we anti-American, anti-freedom speech. and fears that the United States has can all support this amendment. However, this rhetoric, coupled with become a less friendly place for them Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- his ever-growing crackdown on freedom to study. ance of my time. and his rapidly increasing domination Mr. Chairman, my amendment seeks The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. SHAW). of the Venezuelan airwaves, has caused to address this problem by encouraging The question is on the amendment of- many of us to become increasingly the Department of State to work with fered by the gentleman from California alarmed. the U.S. educational and academic (Mr. LANTOS). Chavez, who already dominates the community and with other Federal The question was taken; and the Act- Venezuelan airwaves, is financing a agencies to develop effective practices ing Chairman announced that the ayes new state-run TV network patterned aimed at reversing these negative per- appeared to have it. after Al-Jazeera. What is more, new ceptions so that we may once again re- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I de- laws, including the Law of Social Re- establish our competitive position as mand a recorded vote. sponsibility in Radio and Television, the choice destination for the world’s The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to are being used to snuff out anyone who best and brightest international stu- clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- uses the airwaves to oppose Chavez and dents. I urge all of my colleagues to ceedings on the amendment offered by his government. Many Venezuelan support this amendment. the gentleman from California (Mr. journalists believe that Chavez is try- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance LANTOS) will be postponed. ing to squelch criticism before it of my time. It is now in order to consider amend- starts. Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, I ask ment No. 25 printed in part B of House My amendment would focus the re- unanimous consent to take the time in Report 109–175. sources of the United States Govern- opposition, although I do not oppose AMENDMENT NO. 25 OFFERED BY MR. MACK ment to counter Chavez’s anti-Amer- this amendment. Mr. MACK. Mr. Chairman, I offer an ican, anti-freedom messages. It would The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- amendment. provide an outlet to the Venezuelan jection to the request of the gentleman The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk people to hear about the positive ideals from Illinois? will designate the amendment. of freedom, security and prosperity.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:05 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00018 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.037 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6127 Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance right to free speech and unbiased infor- concerning the withdrawal and use of water of my time. mation. He has restricted the media from the Great Lakes Basin. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am that has been critical to his govern- (4) Section 1109(d) of such Act (42 U.S.C. not opposed to the amendment. I ask 1962d-20(d)) requires the approval of the Gov- ment and he has opened a state-run ernor of each of the Great Lakes States prior unanimous consent to claim the time media outlet. This amendment would to the diversion or export of Great Lakes in opposition. create parity of information and allow water. The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- the people of Venezuela the oppor- (5) The Great Lakes Charter of 1985 is a jection to the request of the gentleman tunity to hear more than just the prop- voluntary international agreement that pro- from California? aganda of Hugo Chavez. It will allow vides the procedural framework for prior no- There was no objection. the people of Venezuela to hear the tice and consultation by the Great Lakes Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield truth. States and the Canadian Provinces of On- myself such time as I may consume. tario and Quebec concerning the withdrawal I urge my colleagues to support this of water from the Great Lakes Basin. I commend my good friend from Flor- pro-democracy amendment. I thank (6) Whereas the Council of Great Lakes ida for offering this important amend- the gentleman from Florida for bring- Governors and Premiers has drafted amend- ment to increase the flow of objective ing this to the floor. ments to the Great Lakes Charter of 1985, information about the United States Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield known as ‘‘Annex 2001’’. and world events into Venezuela. Re- back the balance of my time. (7) One of the primary purposes of Annex cently, Reuters reported that Chavez Mr. MACK. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2001 is to strengthen the authority of Great had launched a new television station, myself the balance of my time. Lakes Governors and Premiers to make deci- Telesur, to counter what he considers sions concerning proposals to divert or ex- Simply put, this amendment would port Great Lakes water by establishing a to be pro-globalization bias in Euro- authorize the Broadcasting Board of common conservation standard by which pean and American news networks, Governors to initiate radio and tele- such decisions will be made. like CNN. Chavez has also reportedly vision broadcasts to Venezuela much (8) The final commitments proposed in entered into a $200 million deal with like we currently do with Radio and Annex 2001 to affirm in-basin authority by China’s National Space Administration TV Marti in Cuba. Since Chavez came way of enacting a basin-States compact and to launch a satellite into orbit from to power, he has moved sharply away a cross-border accord with the Provinces of which he could beam his anticipated Ontario and Quebec will be presented to Con- from democracy and closer to social- gress for final approval. hateful media content into homes ism and maybe even beyond. The (b) STATEMENT OF POLICY.—Congress— across Latin America, the Caribbean United States must take action to en- (1) recognizes and affirms the efforts of the and beyond. sure that the message of freedom Great Lakes Governors and Premiers in de- As Chavez ramps up his information reaches the people of Venezuela. I urge veloping a common standard for decisions re- campaign, we should be prepared to my colleagues to support and vote for lating to the withdrawal of water from the present balanced news to the people of this important amendment. Great Lakes that lead to improvement of Venezuela so that they can be better this binational resource; and Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- (2) urges that the management authority able to make informed decisions about ance of my time. over the waters of the Great Lakes should the activities of their government. I The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. remain vested with the Governors and Pre- encourage all of my colleagues to sup- LATHAM). The question is on the miers of the eight Great Lakes States and port the amendment of my friend from amendment offered by the gentleman two Great Lakes Provinces that share stew- Florida. from Florida (Mr. MACK). ardship over this vast and valuable natural Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance The amendment was agreed to. resource. of my time. The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Mr. MACK. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 order to consider amendment No. 26 House Resolution 365, the gentleman minutes to the gentleman from Texas printed in part B of House Report 109– from Michigan (Mr. ROGERS) and the (Mr. MCCAUL). 175. gentleman from Michigan (Mr. STUPAK) Mr. MCCAUL of Texas. Mr. Chair- AMENDMENT NO. 26 OFFERED BY MR. ROGERS OF each will control 5 minutes. man, I rise today in support of the MICHIGAN The Chair recognizes the gentleman amendment offered by the gentleman Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Chair- from Michigan (Mr. ROGERS). from Florida (Mr. MACK). I want to man, I offer an amendment. Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Chair- commend the gentleman from Florida The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk man, I yield myself such time as I may for his leadership on this very impor- will designate the amendment. consume. Mr. Chairman, I think this is an im- tant issue. The text of the amendment is as fol- portant day for the Great Lakes and an We are currently engaged in a war on lows: terror halfway around the world, a war important amendment to tell the rest Amendment No. 26 offered by Mr. ROGERS of the country how really important to bring freedom and democracy to a of Michigan: they are—about 94,000 square miles of part of the world that has never seen Page 312, after line 8, insert the following fresh water, beautiful lakes, beautiful it. That is a noble and just fight. How- new section: not only in the summer but beautiful ever, we must also ensure the viability SEC. 1110A. STATEMENT OF POLICY REGARDING in the winter. What we have done over of freedom and democracy in our own MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY OVER THE GREAT LAKES. time in the Great Lakes is come to the neighborhood. Twenty years ago, we (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- realization that the people best suited fought against Communist forces at- lowing: to make the decisions about the Great tempting to gain footholds in the West- (1) The water resources of the Great Lakes Lakes are not bureaucrats from Wash- ern hemisphere, and now we face Basin are precious public natural resources, ington, DC, whose only experience with shared and held in trust by the Great Lakes threats from an agent of Castro, China Lake Superior might have been an arti- and Iran. States of Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Min- nesota, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and cle in the National Geographic, or our On several occasions, President Cha- friends from Texas or Arizona or Cali- vez has attempted to intimidate the Wisconsin, and by the Canadian Provinces of Ontario and Quebec. fornia that certainly have an interest United States and has launched un- (2) Authority over the Great Lakes is vest- in diverting some of our water but do founded attacks on our President. He ed in the Governors of the Great Lakes not understand the environmental im- has threatened to shift all oil sales States by the Water Resources Development pact that that may make to the States away from the United States and to- Act of 1986 (Public Law 99–662). that count so dearly on our water. And wards China. He has aligned himself (3) Section 1109(b)(2) of the Water Re- we have made progress. with the only remaining Communist sources Development Act of 1986 (42 U.S.C. After the 1986 annex bill that allowed dictator in the Western hemisphere. 1962d-20(b)(2)) encourages the Great Lakes the States to work together to solve And he has allegedly approached Iran States, in consultation with the Canadian Provinces of Ontario and Quebec, to develop issues of common interest, issues that in search of nuclear technology. and implement a mechanism that provides a Wisconsinites and Michiganders and Since his election, Chavez has common conservation standard embodying folks from Ohio and Indiana under- worked to break down the most basic the principles of water conservation and re- stand are so important, this really re- principles of freedom, including the source improvement for making decisions affirms that. It says we believe that

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We have all cited the sta- table to talk about the issues impor- ment control over the Great Lakes, the tistic that 20 percent of the world’s tant to all of the Great Lakes States. source of drinking water for over 33 fresh water comes from the Great Mr. Chairman, there are 18 Great million Americans, to Canada or any Lakes, that in fact 30 million Ameri- Lakes Members that support this lan- other foreign power? If you vote for the cans get their daily drinking water guage. The chairman supports this lan- Rogers amendment, that is exactly from the Great Lakes. If we were to guage. Why? Because we understand what you would be doing, giving away have eight separate policies, the im- that 20 percent of the world’s fresh our national sovereignty. pact just to Lake Michigan, if Michi- water is worth fighting for. It is worth gan decided to start drilling in the b 1215 protecting. But it is worth protecting Great Lakes and have an accident, it in the sense that we give the authority Current law already allows the would affect Indiana, Wisconsin, Illi- to Great Lakes Governors and Great States a great deal of input into Great nois and all of the individuals of the Lakes legislators for the purpose of Lakes management. It strikes the ap- States who get their fresh drinking protecting what they know. If you propriate balance between the State water from that area. want our water, you really should have and the Federal Government. It is the This is a backdoor attempt to do to live there in February. It is a beau- right way to protect the Great Lakes. what has been tried before. We tried in tiful place. Beautiful lakes. Beautiful It ensures that we have one smart pol- past legislation to deal with banning fresh water. And it is worth protecting. icy to protect the Great Lakes, not an official because the moratorium is Let us not diffuse the issue. Let us not eight. That is why Annex 2001 requires up on oil drilling in the Great Lakes. stop the progress of the Great Lakes congressional approval. This is a backdoor attempt to allow oil Governors and the Great Lakes legisla- Specifically, this amendment uses drilling in the Great Lakes and endan- tors and the provincial leaders in Can- the phrase ‘‘remain vested’’ when refer- ger what has been a bipartisan con- ada. We have made huge progress. The ring to the Great Lakes States’ man- sensus when it came to the Great lakes are starting to turn around. We agement authority. Congress has never Lakes. We should not concede Federal have identified mutual areas of inter- provided full management authorities responsibility and role in maintaining est where we can make even more of the Great Lakes to the States. How a standard for the Great Lakes and for progress to keep those Great Lakes can the States ‘‘remain vested’’ with the 20 million Americans who get their alive. authority that Congress has never daily drinking water from the Great This is the amendment, Mr. Chair- granted? Lakes. man, that says we will and we do un- This language is not a minor detail. I commend the gentleman from derstand the importance of the Great In reality, it would mean the Federal Michigan (Mr. STUPAK) for his opposi- Lakes Governors and the Great Lakes Government would be ceding its lead tion to this amendment. legislators making the determinations role in protecting the Great Lakes to Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Chair- in accordance with law that has passed several States and to Canada. This is man, I yield myself such time as I may these bodies several times before. not a recipe for a smart, coordinated consume. Mr. Chairman, I yield to the gen- effort to protect our Great Lakes. It is horribly unfortunate to see par- tleman from Illinois (Mr. HYDE). As Members decide how they will tisanship creep into this amendment. Mr. HYDE. I thank the gentleman for vote on the Rogers amendment, I ask yielding. I rise only to say we are very Nowhere in this amendment does it them to consider the following: The talk about oil drilling. This is about pleased to accept this excellent amend- Federal Government does have a role ment. We hope it passes. the stewardship of the Great Lakes. in the policies regarding the Great Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Chair- This recognizes current law that we Lakes, just as we have a role in policies man, I reserve the balance of my time. passed in 2000 by over 300 votes and in Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Chairman, I yield governing coastal issues along our 1986 by over 300 votes. myself such time as I may consume. ocean borders. This is about stewardship of the Mr. Chairman, as someone who has If Members support the environment Great Lakes and recognizing the suc- worked more than 12 years to protect and want to protect our country’s larg- cesses of those Governors and those the Great Lakes, I have serious con- est source of fresh water, vote no on legislatures and the progress that we cerns about this amendment and I the Rogers amendment. We cannot risk have made. It is disappointing that we would urge my colleagues to oppose it. having eight different policies from have reached this point. I urge support To be clear, I strongly support the eight different Great Lakes States. of this amendment. The Great Lakes amendment’s stated intent. Congress If Members support the Constitution, Governors and the Great Lakes legisla- should encourage the Great Lakes Gov- vote no on the Rogers amendment. We tures deserve our praise. ernors to work together to develop a should never cede control of our nat- Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance common standard for Great Lakes ural resources to two Canadian pre- of my time. water withdrawal. But there is little miers. Mr. STUPAK. Mr. Chairman, I yield similarity between the gentleman from This amendment is inconsistent with the balance of my time to the gentle- Michigan’s stated intent and the real constitutional interpretation, and woman from Minnesota (Ms. MCCOL- effect of his amendment. could provide States more leverage to LUM), who has been a champion on this The Rogers amendment would, for negotiate directly with other countries issue. the first time ever, put Congress on on interests of national concerns re- (Ms. MCCOLLUM asked and was record as granting all management au- garding the Great Lakes. A simple given permission to revise and extend thority over the Great Lakes to the reading of the Rogers amendment, es- her remarks.) eight State Governors and two provin- pecially the last paragraph, could only Ms. MCCOLLUM of Minnesota. Mr. cial governments of Canada. In doing lead to two conclusions: Either the Chairman, it is unfortunate that we so, it would undermine our efforts to amendment fails to understand law or were unable to have a full hearing on protect the lakes from oil and gas drill- it is purposely attempting to under- this. It is most unfortunate that it is ing, wastewater blending, invasive spe- mine existing Great Lakes protections. on the floor without a hearing. cies, and water diversions. In short, the In either case, the amendment should There is nowhere in current law the Rogers amendment would be a recipe be defeated. word ‘‘vested’’ is used with the Gov- for disaster for the Great Lakes. Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the ernors. This is a radical change. This This amendment is absurd. Would gentleman from Illinois (Mr. EMAN- amendment is a radical change to cur- Congress cede control of coastal por- UEL). rent law. Thirty-five million people

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We owe our told a former Pentagon official that Great Lakes state, I appreciate what a valu- tourism industry largely to the Great Lakes, China would consider using nuclear able resource the Great Lakes are to my where people come from around the country weapons in a Taiwan conflict, then state, our region, our country and the world. to recreate, hunt, fish and relax. This Lakes as warned that Americans should worry I regret that this amendment does not share a transportation system provided Michigan more about Los Angeles than Taipei. those sentiments. This amendment gives with the means to turn our great State into a Mr. Chairman, the U.S. decision to broad and unconditional authority over the manufacturing powerhouse. recognize Communist China in 1979 was management of the Great Lakes to the gov- We owe it to our children and grandchildren predicated on China’s commitment to ernors and premiers of the Great Lakes states to ensure that we do our utmost to protect this resolve its differences with Taiwan and provinces. While I support the role these national treasure. The best way we can do peacefully. But General Zhu Chenghu’s governors and premiers play in developing a this is by defeating this unwise amendment. statements, coupled with the ‘‘anti-se- common standard for water withdrawal, the Mr. ROGERS of Michigan. Mr. Chair- cession law’’ passed by China’s rubber authority granted by this resolution is too vast man, I yield back the balance of my stamp congress a short time ago, made and the responsibility too great to cede to ten time. it increasingly clear that China has no individuals. The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. interest in adhering to this commit- I believe there is a better model for honoring LATHAM). The question is on the ment. the diverse interests of the 35 million people amendment offered by the gentleman These developments have caused whose water, work, and way of life depend on from Michigan (Mr. ROGERS). damage to an already tense U.S.-China the Great Lakes. Two weeks ago, in my home The question was taken; and the Act- relationship. My amendment would state of Minnesota, local, state, federal, tribal, ing Chairman announced that the ayes call on the Chinese government to deal and other diverse stakeholders came together appeared to have it. with General Zhu Chenghu the same to develop a Great Lakes Regional Collabo- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I de- way President Truman dealt with Gen- rative Strategy. This is the kind of approach I mand a recorded vote. eral MacArthur when he made similar believe is needed for the issues facing this The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to statements during the Korean War that large and complex ecosystem. clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- did not reflect official U.S. policy. Instead, this amendment, on which no pub- ceedings on the amendment offered by The amendment expresses the sense lic hearings have been held, calls for a sim- the gentleman from Michigan (Mr. of Congress that the Communist gov- plistic and unilateral approach. I have serious ernment in Beijing disavow General ROGERS) will be postponed. concerns with the implications of this amend- It is now in order to consider amend- Zhu Chenghu’s statements and remove ment and urge my colleagues to join me in op- ment No. 27 printed in part B of House him from his position. It also asks the Chinese authorities to reiterate their posing this amendment. Report 109–175. Mr. DINGELL. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in commitment to resolving differences strong opposition to the amendment before us AMENDMENT NO. 27 OFFERED BY MR. TANCREDO with Taiwan peacefully, and to un- for consideration. Although the Gentleman Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Chairman, I equivocally renounce the use of force from Michigan, Mr. ROGERS, is a capable offer an amendment. against the island nation. I ask for an Member whom I am pleased to call my friend, The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk aye vote on the amendment. I believe that this approach to the very serious will designate the amendment. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance issue of Great Lakes water diversion is mis- The text of the amendment is as fol- of my time. guided. lows: Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I ask Mr. Chairman, the language is this amend- Amendment No. 27 offered by Mr. unanimous consent to claim the time ment is overly broad, governing more than just TANCREDO: in opposition to the amendment, al- water diversion. In fact, it urges that ‘‘manage- In subtitle B of title XI, add at the end the though I do not object to the amend- ment authority’’ over the Great Lakes should following new section: ment. ‘‘remain vested’’ with the eight Great Lakes SEC. 1127. UNITED STATES-CHINA RELATIONS. The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- It is the sense of Congress that— jection to the request of the gentleman States and Canada. This put Congress, for the (1) the comments by Chinese General Zhu very first time, on record as providing full and Chenghu advocating the use of nuclear weap- from California? broad management to the states. ons against the United States are both dam- There was no objection. Now, I have the deepest respect and admi- aging to United States-China relations and a Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield ration for the Governor of Michigan, Jennifer violation of China’s commitment to resolve myself such time as I may consume. Granholm. I have the utmost confidence in her its differences with Taiwan peacefully; and Mr. Chairman, I strongly support ability to protect Michigan greatest natural re- (2) the Government of China should re- this amendment and urge all of my col- sources, the Great Lakes. However, there is nounce the use of force against Taiwan, dis- leagues to do so as well. The bilateral so much more are issue here. avow General Zhu’s statements, and relieve relationship between the United States For example, this amendment gives our General Zhu from his command. and China has become increasingly neighbors to the north, Canada, broad author- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to complex and nuanced over the past dec- ity over all of the Great Lakes, including Lake House Resolution 365, the gentleman ade. A new generation of Chinese dip- Michigan, which lies completely within the from Colorado (Mr. TANCREDO) and a lomats has come into power, fluent in United States. Second, this language puts at Member opposed each will control 5 the language of diplomacy and inter- risk any national protection and restoration minutes. national negotiations. strategy that many of us from the Great Lakes The Chair recognizes the gentleman Unfortunately, the comments made states have been working on for several years from Colorado (Mr. TANCREDO). by Chinese General Zhu demonstrate now. One of the biggest issues facing the Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Chairman, I that key elements of the Chinese mili- Great Lakes right now is invasion species. yield myself such time as I may con- tary continue to live in the long for- How can we deal with this issue if eight states sume. gotten past when the United States and another Nation all have different policies, Mr. Chairman, earlier this week Chi- and China were bitter enemies. General Mr. Chairman? Unfortunately, these pesky lit- nese Major General Zhu Chenghu told a Zhu’s comment that China might tle critter do not now to stop at the border be- group of reporters that China should launch a preemptive nuclear strike tween Illinois and Michigan. What about sew- consider nuclear first strikes against against the United States in the event age blending or oil and gas drilling? Should the United States. Zhu made these of a conflict over Taiwan are the we have eight different standard for those comments in the course of threatening height of lunacy, recklessness and irre- also? a Chinese invasion of the democratic sponsibility. A nuclear strike by China This also brings into questions who would nation of Taiwan. General Zhu against the United States would trig- be responsible for negotiating treaties and Chenghu’s comments are one of many ger a nuclear exchange which would

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I urge Peace Corps, the CDC, and a number of of the Special Court for Sierra Leone to un- all of my colleagues to support this others that are out there, sometimes dergo a fair and open trial for war crimes, amendment. crimes against humanity, and other serious you cannot change the culture. Our dif- violations of international humanitarian Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance ficulty is changing their culture, not law. of my time. the difficulty in supporting the people The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Mr. TANCREDO. Mr. Chairman, I in Africa who have a culture that can House Resolution 365, the gentlewoman yield the balance of my time to the be supported that can help eradicate from California (Ms. WATSON) and a gentleman from Iowa (Mr. KING). this disease. Member opposed each will control 5 Mr. KING of Iowa. Mr. Chairman, I So I call for that. I appreciate the minutes. rise in support of the Tancredo amend- work done by the gentleman from New The Chair recognizes the gentle- ment. I think it is high time that we Jersey (Mr. SMITH) as well. We have woman from California (Ms. WATSON). brought this to the floor of the Con- had good discussions on this. We have Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield gress. I also associate myself with the some insight into this, and they are myself such time as I may consume. remarks of the gentleman from Cali- working with the gentleman from Illi- This amendment, which I am offering fornia (Mr. LANTOS). nois (Mr. HYDE), but I am asking sin- with the gentleman from California We have a lot of broad international cerely that we can have some hearings (Mr. ROYCE), would confirm that it is issues, and we are here debating them to have some insight into the actual the policy of the United States to bring on this floor. I have an issue that I results of the U.S. resources that are Charles Taylor to justice. think has not been properly heard, and committed into Africa. I want to pro- Charles Taylor is one of the most no- I appreciate the time to address it. It is tect them and get them cured of this torious criminal thugs loose in the the issue of AIDS in Africa. disease, but we need to do it in the ap- world today. He bears great personal Mr. Chairman, I have traveled to Af- propriate way so we save the maximum responsibility for the series of wars rica. First, I sat on this floor, and I be- number of lives. that have wracked West Africa over lieve the date was January 28, 2003, Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield the last 2 decades. when about 10 feet behind me the myself such time as I may consume. The Liberian civil war was noted for President of the United States in his Mr. Chairman, I wish to briefly re- its barbarism, and Taylor was the most State of the Union address spoke to the spond to the comments by the gen- barbaric of the bunch. He was cele- issue of committing our resources to tleman from Iowa (Mr. KING) on efforts brated for his widespread use of child AIDS in Africa. I watched as we had a to promote abstinence in Africa. soldiers, which he organized into the standing ovation that was led from this America’s efforts to stop the trans- so-called ‘‘Small Boys Units.’’ side of the aisle and with great enthu- mission of HIV/AIDS overseas are firm- Taylor’s efforts extended beyond the siasm I applauded the President’s ini- ly based on the ABC model: Absti- borders of Liberia. The Special Court tiative because I had been reading the nence, Being faithful, and Condoms. As for Sierra Leone has indicted Taylor on information on Uganda and the ABC we have seen in Uganda, the successful 17 counts of war crimes. According to policy that had come from Uganda on reduction in HIV/AIDS infection rates the court, Taylor provided ‘‘guidance AIDS prevention, which they had done is dependent upon using all three ele- and direction’’ to a ‘‘joint criminal en- without resources from the United ments of the ABC approach, not simply terprise which was to take any actions States: Abstinence, Be faithful, and if one. necessary to gain and exercise political power and control over the territory of those fail, then Condoms. Our committee has conducted exten- Sierra Leone . . . ’’ I went to Africa less than a year ago, sive investigations into U.S. HIV/AIDS The court’s indictment says Taylor particularly Southern Africa, and I efforts abroad, and we have seen no evi- and his cronies were responsible for went to the AIDS orphanages and to dence whatsoever that abstinence ef- ‘‘unlawful killings, abductions, forced the hospitals and to the clinics. I met forts are being denigrated by NGOs re- labor, physical and sexual violence, use with the people distributing the anti- ceiving U.S. funds. Groups across Afri- of child soldiers, looting and burning of retroviral drugs and the condoms. I ca receiving HIV/AIDS funds from our civilian structures.’’ Taylor ‘‘partici- looked for the A, the abstinence, and country are effectively implementing pated in this joint criminal enterprise the B, Be faithful, and I had a lot of abstinence programs as part of the as part of his continuing efforts to gain trouble finding its existence in South- ABC model, exactly as Congress in- access to the mineral wealth of Sierra ern Africa. tended. Leone and to destabilize the govern- So when I raised the issue before a Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- ment of Sierra Leone.’’. large meeting in one of those countries ance of my time. in Southern Africa, and in that meet- Mr. Chairman, I include the full text The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- of the court’s indictment of Taylor in ing I recall there were 24 people, among tion is on the amendment offered by the RECORD: them USAID people, Peace Corps peo- the gentleman from Colorado (Mr. ple, Centers for Disease Control people, THE SPECIAL COURT FOR SIERRA LEONE, CASE TANCREDO). NO. SCSL–03–I, THE PROSECUTOR AGAINST people from the U.S. Council and oth- The amendment was agreed to. ers, the team that is administering the CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR ALSO KNOWN AS CHARLES GHANKAY MACARTHUR DAPKPANA resources that are going to AIDS in Af- b 1230 TAYLOR rica. And I asked them, What are you The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. INDICTMENT doing about promiscuity? The Prosecutor, Special Court for Sierra Their answer was we cannot change LATHAM). It is now in order to consider amendment No. 28 printed in part B of Leone, under Article 15 of the Statute of the the culture, so we are distributing Special Court for Sierra Leone (the Statute) drugs and condoms. House Report 109–175. charges: CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR also But if they have a sexual life expect- AMENDMENT NO. 28 OFFERED BY MS. WATSON known as (aka) CHARLES GHANKAY MAC- ancy of another 25 to 30 years, how Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I offer ARTHUR DAPKPANA TAYLOR with many more people are infected? Can we an amendment. CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, VIOLA- treat our way out of this problem, or The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk TIONS OF ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO THE must we find another way to solve it in will designate the amendment. GENEVA CONVENTIONS AND OF ADDI- TIONAL PROTOCOL II and OTHER SERI- conjunction with our anti-retroviral The text of the amendment is as fol- OUS VIOLATIONS OF INTERNATIONAL drugs? lows: HUMANITARIAN LAW, in violation of Arti- Their answer was you cannot change Amendment No. 28 offered by Ms. WATSON: cles 2, 3 and 4 of the Statute as set forth the culture. But what they are doing is Page 312, after line 8, insert the following: below:

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THE ACCUSED which the Republic of Sierra Leone acceded to provide support to the members of the 1. CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR aka on 21 October 1986. joint criminal enterprise. The crimes alleged CHARLES GHANKAY MACARTHUR 13. All offences alleged herein were com- in this Indictment, including unlawful DAPKPANA TAYLOR (the ACCUSED) was mitted within the territory of Sierra Leone killings, abductions, forced labour, physical born on or about 28 January 1948 at after 30 November 1996. and sexual violence, use of child soldiers, Arthington in the Republic of Liberia. 14. All acts and omissions charged herein looting and burning of civilian structures, as Crimes Against Humanity were com- were either actions within the joint criminal GENERAL ALLEGATIONS mitted as part of a widespread or systematic enterprise or were a reasonably foreseeable 2. At all times relevant to this Indictment, attack directed against the civilian popu- consequence of the joint criminal enterprise. a state of armed conflict existed within Si- lation of Sierra Leone. 25. The ACCUSED participated in this joint erra Leone. For the purposes of this Indict- 15. The words civilian or civilian popu- criminal enterprise as part of his continuing ment, organized armed factions involved in lation used in this Indictment refer to per- efforts to gain access to the mineral wealth this conflict included the Revolutionary sons who took no active part in the hos- of Sierra Leone and to destabilize the Gov- United Front (RUF), the Civil Defence tilities, or who were no longer taking an ac- ernment of Sierra Leone. Forces (CDF) and the Armed Forces Revolu- tive part in the hostilities. 26. CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR, by his tionary Council (AFRC). acts or omissions, is individually criminally INDIVIDUAL CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY 3. A nexus existed between the armed con- responsible pursuant to Article 6.1. of the flict and all acts or omissions charged herein 16. Paragraphs 1 through 15 are incor- Statute for the crimes referred to in Articles as Violations of Article 3 common to the Ge- porated by reference. 2, 3 and 4 of the Statute as alleged in this In- neva Conventions and of Additional Protocol 17. In the late 1980’s CHARLES GHANKAY dictment, which crimes the ACCUSED II and as Other Serious Violations of Inter- TAYLOR received military training in Libya planned, instigated, ordered, committed or national Humanitarian Law. from representatives of the Government of in whose planning, preparation or execution 4. The organized armed group that became MU’AMMAR AL-QADHAFI. While in Libya the ACCUSED otherwise aided and abetted, known as the RUF, led by FODAY the ACCUSED met and made common cause or which crimes were within a joint criminal SAYBANA SANKOH aka POPAY aka PAPA with FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH. enterprise in which the ACCUSED partici- aka PA, was founded about 1988 or 1989 in 18. While in Libya, the ACCUSED formed pated or were a reasonably foreseeable con- Libya. The RUF, under the leadership of or joined the National Patriotic Front of Li- sequence of the joint criminal enterprise in FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH, began orga- beria (NPFL). At all times relevant to this which the ACCUSED participated. nized armed operations in Sierra Leone in Indictment the ACCUSED was the leader of 27. In addition, or alternatively, pursuant March 1991. During the ensuing armed con- the NPFL and/or the President of the Repub- to Article 6.3. of the Statute, CHARLES flict, the RUF forces were also referred to as lic of Liberia. GHANKAY TAYLOR, while holding positions ‘‘RUF’’, ‘‘rebels’’ and ‘‘People’s Army’’. 19. In December 1989 the NPFL, led by the of superior responsibility and exercising 5. The CDF was comprised of Sierra ACCUSED, began conducting organized command and control over his subordinates, Leonean traditional hunters, including the armed attacks in Liberia. The ACCUSED and is individually criminally responsible for the Kamajors, Gbethis, Kapras, Tamaboros and the NPFL were assisted in these attacks by crimes referred to in Articles 2, 3 and 4 of the Donsos. The CDF fought against the RUF FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH and his fol- Statute. The ACCUSED is responsible for the and AFRC. lowers. criminal acts of his subordinates in that he 6. On 30 November 1996, in Abidjan, Ivory 20. To obtain access to the mineral wealth knew or had reason to know that the subor- Coast, FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH and of the Republic of Sierra Leone, in particular dinate was about to commit such acts or had Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, President of the Re- the diamond wealth of Sierra Leone, and to done so and the ACCUSED failed to take the public of Sierra Leone, signed a peace agree- destabilize the State, the ACCUSED provided necessary and reasonable measures to pre- ment which brought a temporary cessation financial support, military training, per- vent such acts or to punish the perpetrators to active hostilities. Thereafter, the active sonnel, arms, ammunition and other support thereof. hostilities recommenced. and encouragement to the RUF, led by CHARGES 7. The AFRC was founded by members of FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH, in preparation 28. Paragraphs 16 through 27 are incor- the Armed Forces of Sierra Leone who seized for RUF armed action in the Republic of Si- porated by reference. power from the elected government of the erra Leone, and during the subsequent armed 29. At all times relevant to this Indict- Republic of Sierra Leone via a coup d’e´tat on conflict in Sierra Leone. ment, members of the RUF, AFRC, Junta 25 May 1997. Soldiers of the Sierra Leone 21. Throughout the course of the armed and/or AFRC/RUF forces (AFRC/RUF), sup- Army (SLA) comprised the majority of the conflict in Sierra Leone, the RUF and the ported and encouraged by, acting in concert AFRC membership. On that date JOHNNY AFRC/RUF alliance, under the authority, with and/or subordinate to CHARLES PAUL KOROMA aka JPK became the leader command and control of FODAY SAYBANA GHANKAY TAYLOR, conducted armed at- and Chairman of the AFRC. The AFRC forces SANKOH, JOHNNY PAUL KOROMA and tacks throughout the territory of the Repub- were also referred to as ‘‘Junta’’, ‘‘soldiers’’, other leaders of the RUF, AFRC and AFRC/ lic of Sierra Leone, including, but not lim- ‘‘SLA’’, and ‘‘ex-SLA’’. RUF alliance, engaged in notorious, wide- ited, to, Bo, Kono, Kenema, Bombali and 8. Shortly after the AFRC seized power, at spread or systematic attacks against the ci- Kailahun Districts and Freetown. Targets of the invitation of JOHNNY PAUL KOROMA, vilian population of Sierra Leone. the armed attacks included civilians and hu- and upon the order of FODAY SAYBANA 22. At all times relevant to this Indict- manitarian assistance personnel and peace- SANKOH, leader ofthe RUF, the RUF joined ment, CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR sup- keepers assigned to the United Nations Mis- with the AFRC. The AFRC and RUF acted ported and encouraged all actions of the sion in Sierra Leone (UNAMSIL), which had jointly thereafter. The AFRC/RUF Junta RUF and AFRC/RUF alliance, and acted in been created by United Nations Security forces (Junta) were also referred to as concert with FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH Council Resolution 1270 (1999). ‘‘Junta’’, ‘‘rebels’’, ‘‘soldiers’’, ‘‘SLA’’, ‘‘ex- and other leaders of the RUF and AFRC/RUF 30. These attacks were carried out pri- SLA’’ and ‘‘People’s Army’’. alliance. FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH was marily to terrorize the civilian population, 9. After the 25 May 1997 coup d’e´tat, a gov- incarcerated in Nigeria and Sierra Leone and but also were used to punish the population erning body, the Supreme Council, was cre- subjected to restricted movement in Sierra for failing to provide sufficient support to ated within the Junta. The governing body Leone from about March 1997 until about the AFRC/RUF, or for allegedly providing included leaders of both the AFRC and RUF. April 1999. During this time the ACCUSED, support to the Kabbah government or to pro- 10. The Junta was forced from power by in concert with FODAY SAYBANA SANKOH, government forces. The attacks included un- forces acting on behalf of the ousted govern- provided guidance and direction to the RUF, lawful killings, physical and sexual violence ment of President Kabbah about 14 February including SAM BOCKARIE aka MOSQUITO against civilian men, women and children, 1998. President Kabbah’s government re- aka MASKITA. abductions and looting and destruction of ci- turned in March 1998. After the Junta was re- 23. The RUF and the AFRC shared a com- vilian property. Many civilians saw these moved from power the AFRC/RUF alliance mon plan, purpose or design (joint criminal crimes committed; others—returned to their continued. enterprise) which was to take any actions homes or places of refuge to find the results 11. On 7 July 1999, in Lome´, Togo, FODAY necessary to gain and exercise political of these crimes—dead bodies, mutilated vic- SAYBANA SANKOH and Ahmed Tejan power and control over the territory of Si- tims and looted and burnt property. Kabbah, President of the Republic of Sierra erra Leone, in particular the diamond min- 31. As part of the campaign of terror and Leone, signed a peace agreement. However, ing areas. The natural resources of Sierra punishment the AFRC/RUF routinely cap- active hostilities continued. Leone, in particular the diamonds, were to tured and abducted members of the civilian 12. The ACCUSED and all members of the be provided to persons outside Sierra Leone population. Captured women and girls were organized armed factions engaged in fighting in return for assistance in carrying out the raped; many of them were abducted and used within Sierra Leone were required to abide joint criminal enterprise. as sex slaves and as forced labour. Some of by International Humanitarian Law and the 24. The joint criminal enterprise included these women and girls were held captive for laws and customs governing the conduct of gaining and exercising control over the popu- years. Men and boys who were abducted were armed conflicts, including the Geneva Con- lation of Sierra Leone in order to prevent or also used as forced labour; some of them ventions of 12 August 1949, and Additional minimize resistance to their geographic con- were also held captive for years. Many ab- Protocol II to the Geneva Conventions, to trol, and to use members of the population ducted boys and girls were given combat

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Members of the AFRC/RUF supported MANITY, punishable under Article 2.a. of and ‘‘RUF’’ on the bodies of the civilians; and encouraged by, acting in concert with the Statute; Freetown and/or subordinate to CHARLES GHANKAY In addition, or in the alternative: 46. Between 6 January 1999 and 31 January TAYLOR committed the crimes set forth Count 5: Violence to life, health and phys- 1999, AFRC/RUF mutilated an unknown num- below in paragraphs 33 through 58 and ical or mental well-being of persons, in par- ber of civilian men, women and children in charged in Counts 3 through 13, as part of a ticular murder, a VIOLATION OF ARTICLE various areas of Freetown, including the campaign to terrorize the civilian population 3 COMMON TO THE GENEVA CONVEN- northern and eastern areas of the city, and of the Republic of Sierra Leone, and did ter- TIONS AND OF ADDITIONAL PROTOCOL the Kissy area, including the Kissy mental rorize that population. The AFRC/RUF also II, punishable under Article 3.a. of the Stat- hospital. The mutilations included cutting committed the crimes to punish the civilian ute. off limbs. population for allegedly supporting the Counts 6–8: Sexual violence By his acts or omissions in relation, but elected government of President Ahmed 39. Widespread sexual violence committed Tejan Kabbah and factions aligned with that not limited to these events, CHARLES against civilian women and girls included GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. government, or for failing to provide suffi- brutal rapes, often by multiple rapists. Acts cient support to the AFRC/RUF. and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- of sexual violence included, but were not ute, is individually criminally responsible By his acts or omissions in relation, but limited to, the following: not limited to these events, CHARLES for the crimes alleged below: GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. Kono District Count 9: Violence to life, health and phys- and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- 40. Between about 14 February 1998 and 30 ical or mental well-being of persons, in par- ute, is individually criminally responsible June 1998, members of AFRC/RUF raped hun- ticular cruel treatment, a VIOLATION OF for the crimes alleged below: dreds of women and girls at various locations ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO THE GENEVA Count 1: Acts of Terrorism, a VIOLATION throughout the District, including Koidu, CONVENTIONS AND OF ADDITIONAL PRO- OF ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO THE GENEVA Tombodu, Kissi-town (or Kissi Town), TOCOL II, punishable under Article 3.a. of CONVENTIONS AND OF ADDITIONAL PRO- Foendor (or Foendu), Tomendeh, Fokoiya, the Statute; TOCOL II, punishable under Article 3.d. of Wondedu and AFRC/RUF camps such as ‘‘Su- In addition, or in the alternative: the Statute; perman camp’’ and Kissi-town (or Kissi Count 10: Other inhumane acts, a CRIME And: Town) camp. An unknown number of women AGAINST HUMANITY, punishable under Ar- Count 2: Collective Punishments, a VIOLA- and girls were abducted from various loca- ticle 2.i. of the Statute. TION OF ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO THE GE- tions within the District and used as sex Count 11: Use of child soldiers NEVA CONVENTIONS AND OF ADDI- slaves; TIONAL PROTOCOL II, punishable under Bombali District 47. At all times relevant to this Indict- ment, throughout the Republic of Sierra Article 3.b. of the Statute. 41. Between about 1 May 1998 and 31 July Leone, AFRC/RUF routinely conscripted, en- Counts 3–5: Unlawful killings 1998, members of AFRC/RUF raped an un- listed and/or used boys and girls under the known number of women and girls in loca- 33. Victims were routinely shot, hacked to age of 15 to participate in active hostilities. tions such as Mandaha. In addition, an un- death and burned to death. Unlawful killings Many of these children were first abducted, known number of abducted women and girls included, but were not limited to, the fol- then trained in AFRC/RUF camps in various were used as sex slaves; lowing: locations throughout the country, and there- Bo District Kailahun District after used as fighters. 34. Between 1 June 1997 and 30 June 1997, 42. At all times relevant to this Indict- By his acts or omissions in relation, but AFRC/RUF attacked Tikonko, Telu, ment, an unknown number of women and not limited to these events, CHARLES Sembehun, Gerihun and Mamboma, unlaw- girls in various locations in the District were GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. fully killing an unknown number of civil- subjected to sexual violence. Many of these and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- ians; victims were captured in other areas of the ute, is individually criminally responsible Republic of Sierra Leone, brought to AFRC/ Kenema District for the crimes alleged below: RUF camps in the District, and used as sex Count 11: Conscripting or enlisting chil- 35. Between about 25 May 1997 and about 19 slaves; dren under the age of 15 years into armed February 1998, in locations including Freetown forces or groups, or using them to partici- Kenema town, members of AFRC/RUF un- pate actively in hostilities, an OTHER SERI- lawfully killed an unknown number of civil- 43. Between 6 January 1999 and 31 January OUS VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL ians; 1999, members of AFRC/RUF raped hundreds of women and girls throughout the Freetown HUMANITARlAN LAW, punishable under Kono District area, and abducted hundreds of women and Article 4.c. of the Statute. 36. About mid February 1998, AFRC/RUF girls and used them as sex slaves. Count 12: Abductions and forced labour fleeing from Freetown arrived in Kono Dis- By his acts or omissions in relation, but trict. Between about 14 February 1998 and 30 not limited to these events, CHARLES 48. At all times relevant to this Indict- June 1998, members of AFRC/RUF unlawfully GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. ment, AFRC/RUF engaged in widespread and killed several hundred civilians in various and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- large scale abductions of civilians and use of locations in Kono District, including Koidu, ute, is individually criminally responsible civilians as forced labour. Forced labour in- Tombodu, Foindu, Willifeh, Mortema and for the crimes alleged below: cluded domestic labour and use as diamond Biaya; Count 6: Rape, a CRIME AGAINST HU- miners. The abductions and forced labour in- cluded, but were not limited to, the fol- Bombali District MANITY, punishable under Article 2.g. of the Statute; lowing: 37. Between about 1 May 1998 and 31 July And: Kenema District 1998, in locations including Karina, members Count 7: Sexual slavery and any other form 49. Between about 1 August 1997 and about of AFRC/RUF unlawfully killed an unknown of sexual violence, a CRIME AGAINST HU- 31 January 1998, AFRC/RUF forced an un- number of civilians; MANITY, punishable under Article 2.g. of known number of civilians living in the Dis- Freetown the Statute; In addition, or in the alternative: trict to mine for diamonds at Cybord Pit in 38. Between 6 January 1999 and 31 January Tongo Field; 1999, AFRC/RUF conducted armed attacks Count 8: Outrages upon personal dignity, a throughout the city of Freetown. These at- VIOLATION OF ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO Kono District tacks included large scale unlawful killings THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS AND OF AD- 50. Between about 14 February 1998 and 30 of civilian men, women and children at loca- DITIONAL PROTOCOL II, punishable under June 1998, AFRC/RUF forces abducted hun- tions throughout the city, including the Article 3.e. of the Statute. dreds of civilian men, women and children, State House, Parliament building, Counts 9–0: Physical violence and took them to various locations outside Connaught Hospital, and the Kissy, Fourah 44. Widespread physical violence, including the District, or to locations within the Dis- Bay, Upgun, Calaba Town and Tower Hill mutilations, was committed against civil- trict such as AFRC/RUF camps, Tombodu, areas of the city. ians. Victims were often brought to a central Koidu, Wondedu, Tomendeh. At these loca- By his acts or omissions in relation, but location where mutilations were carried out. tions the civilians were used as forced not limited to these events, CHARLES These acts of physical violence included, but labour, including domestic labour and as dia- GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. were not limited to, the following: mond miners in the Tombodu area;

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At all times relevant to this Indict- tion to—war-torn, remote and desperately against personnel involved in a humani- ment, captured civilian men, women and poor. But that might be about to change. tarian assistance or peacekeeping mission, children were brought to various locations War crimes investigators have uncovered an OTHER SERIOUS VIOLATION OF within the District and used as forced evidence that al-Qaida terrorists—before and INTERNATIONAL HUMANITARIAN LAW, labour; after 9/11—were using West Africa as a hide- punishable under Article 4.b. of the Statute; out and a place to launder money. And they Freetown In addition, or in the alternative: say U.S. inaction has allowed al-Qaida to Count 15: For the unlawful killings, Mur- 53. Between 6 January 1999 and 31 January move into West Africa. 1999, in particular as the AFRC/RUF were der, a CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY, punish- able under Article 2.a. of the Statute; ‘‘Right now, it’s a safe haven for terrorist being driven out of Freetown, the AFRC/RUF activity,’’ says Al White, who for 16 years abducted hundreds of civilians, including a In addition, or in the alternative: Count 16: Violence to life, health and phys- served as a senior investigator at the Pen- large number of children, from various areas ical or mental well-being of persons, in par- tagon, handling sensitive intelligence and within Freetown, including Peacock Farm ticular murder, a VIOLATION OF ARTICLE law enforcement matters. ‘‘They are actively and Calaba Town. These abducted civilians 3 COMMON TO THE GENEVA CONVEN- setting up shop. They’re training in various were used as forced labour. By his acts or omissions in relation, but TIONS AND OF ADDITIONAL PROTOCOL countries over there. They’re recruiting.’’ not limited to these events, CHARLES II, punishable under Article 3.a. of the Stat- White says West Africa could become the GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. ute; In addition, or in the alternative: next Afghanistan. ‘‘If we fail to act, and act and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- Count 17: For the abductions and holding soon-mark my words, that’s exactly what’s ute, is individually criminally responsible as hostage, Taking of hostages, a VIOLA- going to happen,’’ he says. for the crimes alleged below: TION OF ARTICLE 3 COMMON TO THE GE- White says, those terrorists may be plan- Count 12: Enslavement, a CRIME NEVA CONVENTIONS AND OF ADDI- ning new attacks on America. TIONAL PROTOCOL II, punishable under AGAINST HUMANITY, punishable under Ar- ‘‘MAD MAX THUNDERDOME’’ IN WEST AFRICA ticle 2.c. of the Statute. Article 3.c. of the Statute. Dated this 3rd day of March 2003, Free- For the last three years, White was on loan Count 13: Looting and burning town, Sierra Leone. from the Pentagon to the special court for 54. At all times relevant to this Indict- DAVID M. CRANE, Sierra Leone, set up by the U.N. to prosecute ment, AFRC/RUF engaged in widespread un- The Prosecutor. war crimes that took place when Charles lawful taking and destruction by burning of Taylor was president of Liberia. civilian property. This looting and burning Mr. Chairman, today war criminals such as Milosevic and Saddam Hussein Taylor allegedly sent a rebel force into included, but was not limited to, the fol- neighboring Sierra Leone to seize that coun- lowing: are behind bars; yet Charles Taylor try’s diamond mines, in a conflict that re- Bo District lives on a Nigerian estate. The message sulted in the murder, rape and mutilation of 55. Between 1 June 1997 and 30 June 1997, we risk sending is that European and 1.2 million people. AFRC/RUF forces looted and burned an un- Middle Eastern despots will be brought And in 1998, White says, Charles Taylor known number of civilian houses in Telu, to justice and African despots will be went into business with al-Qaida. Sembehun, Mamboma and Tikonko; given oceanside villas. ‘‘This man is a terrorist,’’ White says of Kono District But it is more than a principle at the former Liberian president. ‘‘He’s also 56. Between about 14 February 1998 and 30 stake. Charles Taylor remains a major aided and abetted al-Qaida operatives. Now June 1998, AFRC/RUF engaged in widespread source of instability for West Africa. he’s actively working with these people looting and burning in various locations in Taylor has recently been accused of again. If we don’t bring him to justice imme- diately, there will be some significant con- the District, including Tombodu, Foindu and seeking to assassinate the President of Yardu Sando, where virtually every home in sequences in the future.’’ the village was looted and burned; Guinea. It is also alleged that Taylor But why would al-Qaida flock to West Afri- worked hand in hand with al Qaeda Bombali District ca in the late 1990s? According to investiga- operatives, helping them to move their 57. Between 1 March 1998 and 30 June 1998, tors, it’s simple. AFRC/RUF forces burned an unknown num- financial resources around using dia- ‘‘There was no accountability, there was ber of civilian buildings in locations such as monds. A recent ‘‘Dateline NBC’’ re- no rule of law. And so, it was literally Mad Karina; port details the al Qaeda allegations. I Max Thunderdome here in West Africa for 10 include this report in the RECORD: years,’’ says David Crane, who served as a Freetown high-level Pentagon and defense intelligence LIBERIA’S FORMER PRESIDENT, A FRIEND TO 58. Between 6 January 1999 and 31 January official and was that U.N. court’s chief pros- TERROR? 1999, AFRC/RUF forces engaged in wide- ecutor. spread looting and burning throughout Free- (By Chris Hansen) He says al-Qaida found a friend in Charles town. The majority of houses that were de- [From Dateline NBC, July 17, 2005] Taylor who was looking to sell the diamonds stroyed were in the areas of Kissy and east- Even before the recent bombings in Lon- he’d seized in Sierra Leone. The group ern Freetown; other locations included the don, it was the question many Americans turned to diamonds, he says, because they’re Fourah Bay, Upgun, State House and were asking: Is our government doing every- virtually untraceable—the perfect currency Pademba Road areas of the city. thing it should to stop terrorism? for terror financing. By his acts or omissions in relation, but A ‘‘Dateline’’ investigation reveals that Hansen: Do you believe that Taylor him- not limited to these events, CHARLES some of the world’s most dangerous terror- GHANKAY TAYLOR, pursuant to Article 6.1. self was personally involved in these deal- ists may have found a new safe haven, a new ings with the al-Qaida operatives? and, or alternatively, Article 6.3. of the Stat- source of money, and are thriving un- Crane: Yes. ute, is individually criminally responsible checked. for the crimes alleged below: Have U.S. officials missed—or dismissed—a Hansen: In what way? Count 13: Pillage, a VIOLATION OF ARTI- vital link in the terror network? Crane: Physically handing over diamonds for cash. CLE 3 COMMON TO THE GENEVA CONVEN- A GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR? Hansen: And you have witnesses who have TIONS AND OF ADDITIONAL PROTOCOL On September 11, 2001, President Bush put seen this? II, punishable under Article 3.f. of the Stat- America’s enemies on notice: ‘‘We will make ute. no distinction between the terrorists who Crane: Yes. We don’t make this stuff up. Counts 14–17: Attacks on UNAMSIL personnel committed these acts and those who harbor This is stuff that is told to us by our inform- 59. Between about 15 April 2000 and about them,’’ he said. ants who have been living and breathing in 15 September 2000, AFRC/RUF engaged in And in the days that followed, he defined this area for decades. widespread attacks against UNAMSIL peace- who our enemies are in the war on terror. Both Crane and White say they have devel- keepers and humanitarian assistance work- ‘‘Every nation in every region now has a de- oped information that proves al-Qaida has ers within the Republic of Sierra Leone, in- cision to make: Either you are with us or been, and still is operating in West Africa. cluding, but not limited to locations within you are with the terrorists,’’ the president ‘‘We’ve been able to positively identify ten Bombali, Kailahun, Kambia, Port Loko, and said. of the 21 FBI’s most wanted terrorists, oper- Kono Districts. These attacks included un- He sent American forces to Afghanistan to ating actively and freely in West Africa, lawful killing of UNAMSIL peacekeepers, destroy al-Qaida’s sanctuary. When he from 1997 up to modern day,’’ says White. and abducting hundreds of peacekeepers and deemed Saddam Hussein a threat, he sent And they say they have the witnesses to humanitarian assistance workers who were troops to Iraq. He enlisted nations around prove it. Witnesses that include Charles Tay- then held hostage. the globe to help target al-Qaida terrorists. lor’s own brother-in-law—Cindor Reeves.

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AL-QAIDA PRESENCE finding out what people were trying to do, know exactly what the al-Qaida operatives Reeves, who ‘‘Dateline’’ interviewed in dis- we were charged with the responsibility of are doing. That’s what concerns me. And, guise, is currently in witness protection. He finding out what they did. again, the problem is that’s not my mission. told investigators that as a trusted insider, The commission’s mandate was narrowly It’s the FBI’s mission to come over and find he escorted Taylor’s special guests around focused on the events and failures directly that out.’’ Liberia, including a man who went by the leading to 9/11. IS THE U.S. GOVERNMENT DOING ENOUGH? name ‘‘Mustafah.’’ But Al White, who was the war crimes tri- There is one man who could settle the dis- Although Reeves didn’t know it at the bunal’s chief investigator says, when it agreement over al-Qaida’s presence and dia- time, he now believes that ‘‘Mustafah’’ was, comes to al-Qaida in West Africa, the 9/11 mond-dealing in West Africa: former Libe- in fact, Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah, the al- Commission didn’t look hard enough. rian president Charles Taylor. leged mastermind of the 1998 al-Qaida bomb- ‘‘The 9/11 Commission missed the boat. I’ll Two years ago, after the special court ings of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tan- just be very candid,’’ says White. charged Taylor with 17 counts of war crimes zania. White says the 9/11 Commission failed to committed in Sierra Leone, the U.S. helped Cindor Reeves: I know the man. I didn’t interview credible witnesses offered by the broker a deal in which Taylor left office in just see him one day in ’98. He came back the court. Liberia and went into exile at his estate in second time, he came back the third time, ‘‘How can you assess the credibility of Nigeria. and we stayed together for more than two, someone you’ve never talked to?’’ questions Despite repeated requests from the inter- three months. White. ‘‘That’s what I find suspicious. And national community, Nigeria’s president has Hansen: You’re positive that this man was that’s what I find quite frankly unpro- so far refused to turn Taylor over to the spe- actually Abdullah Ahmed Abdullah? fessional.’’ cial court for prosecution. Reeves: Exactly. A 100 percent positive. The 9/11 Commission says while it may not And the United States—which considers He says other al-Qaida operatives were have interviewed the court’s witnesses, the Nigeria a vital ally and oil supplier—has there as well—all with cash in hand to buy FBI did, and that both the FBI and the 9/11 seemed reluctant to really press the issue. diamonds from Liberia’s president, Charles Commission concluded they were not cred- But Al White, who’s just finished a three- Taylor. Reeves told us the men first stayed ible. year stint in West Africa, says Charles Tay- at a hotel in the capital, Monrovia, before But could it be that the 9/11 Commission— lor is still conspiring with terror suspects, moving to the safe house. On the wall of the along with the CIA and FBI—just got it and that bringing him to justice may be the safe house is a photo of a familiar face. wrong? only way to prevent further bloodshed. Al White: We’ve lost three years. Three Hansen: And who did this picture turn out ‘‘DATELINE’’ IN LIBERIA years of time in actively pursuing these ter- to be? Mike Shanklin is a U.S. intelligence vet- rorists. Can we afford to waste another three Reeves: Osama Bin Laden. eran. Now retired, Shanklin headed the CIA’s years by denying that their presence is over Hansen: Osama Bin Laden? operations in Liberia in the 1990s, at a time Reeves: Yeah. there? when Taylor was coming to power. Hansen: And what has al-Qaida gained in Shortly after September 11, Reeves told his ‘‘Dateline’’ asked Shanklin, who had pre- those three years? story to Doug Farah, who at the time was a viously been consulted by the special court, White: [In the three years] they’ve gained reporter for the Washington Post. to come on our behalf to Sierra Leone and momentum. They have absolutely no prob- Doug Farah: I said, you know, ‘‘You gotta Liberia to help sort out allegations of al- lem pursuing their agenda and training in be kidding right?’’ He said, ‘‘No, I knew—I Qaida’s presence and diamond-dealing in the West Africa because they’re off limits. know these people.’’ And I sold diamonds region. Together, we uncovered evidence Shanklin agrees: ‘‘We’re fighting a war and with them. And my first thought was, ‘Well that U.S. officials appear to have missed. we’re talking about going after al-Qaida. We then, how would you ever verify this, right?’ ‘‘Al Qaida, Bah, Taylor, they were there,’’ had an opportunity to go after al-Qaida here. And I said, ‘You know, I only have my rep- says Shanklin. ‘‘There is no question in my Maybe we didn’t do it as aggressively as we utation. You only have your reputation. If mind these people were there. They were should have. Charles Taylor was dealing with you’re lying to me on this, we’re both ham- there during the period in question. And these people. And we should be doing some- burger meat.’ ’’ clearly they were involved in some sort of a thing about Charles Taylor. This isn’t tough. Farah’s article piqued the interest of offi- diamond business. That’s a fact.’’ This doesn’t even fall in the category of cials in Washington D.C. But the CIA and Ironically, Shanklin says, a few years ago, tough. This is pretty easy. Let’s do it.’’ FBI said they found his source, Cindor a top Liberian security official—unaware There is new evidence that Charles Taylor Reeves, unreliable. Still, the FBI, under that his boss, Charles Taylor might have may be meddling in his former nation’s com- pressure from Congress, continued to inves- been doing business with al-Qaida—naively ing election, and thus violating the terms of tigate. launched an investigation into the terrorist his exile agreement. With that in mind, the ‘‘We couldn’t establish that al-Qaida had in group’s activities in Liberia. United States has joined the chorus of na- fact been involved in conflict diamonds,’’ But the investigation ended before it could tions requesting that Taylor be turned over says Dennis Lormel, who headed the FBI’s begin. to the U.N. War Crimes Tribunal. Taylor’s terror financing section. ‘‘Charles Taylor quashed it, said, ‘You host, the Nigerian president, still refuses to What about all this information that don’t need to worry about this.’ And that cooperate. Charles Taylor had provided safe haven for was the end of it,’’ says Shanklin. some al-Qaida operatives? Mr. Chairman, these allegations are Several witnesses at the hotel (where al- controversial, but what should be clear ‘‘We investigated that,’’ says Lormel. ‘‘The Qaida operatives are said to have met) con- people around Taylor and other people de- is that instability in West Africa cre- firmed to ‘‘Dateline’’ that al-Qaida fugitives ates a national security challenge for nied that that ever happened.’’ had stayed there as quests about six years But as ‘‘Dateline’’ discovered, one of the ago. the United States. Charles Taylor is a people the FBI relied on to discredit the What’s more, a senior Liberian official told source of that instability. Both the na- story was Ibrihim Bah, who Middle Eastern ‘‘Dateline’’ that around the same time, a tional security imperatives of the intelligence sources tell ‘‘Dateline’’ has couple of unwitting Liberian investigators United States and the cause of justice longstanding terrorist ties of his own in Af- apparently went to the hotel and tried to ghanistan, Lebanon and Libya. compel us to make sure that the policy have the men arrested—again, not realizing of our government remains seeking THE 9/11 COMMISSION INVESTIGATION they were guests of their president, Charles Taylor’s expeditious transfer to the ju- Taylor. The 9/11 Commission, which conducted its risdiction of the Special Court for Si- own investigation, agreed with the FBI. ‘‘Taylor had the government investigators Vice Chairman Lee Hamilton: Our conclu- arrested . . . and freed the al-Qaida erra Leone. sion, the conclusion of the commission was operatives,’’ says Shanklin. I ask the Members to please vote for that there was simply no persuasive evidence Hansen: What does that say about the rela- the Watson-Royce amendment. of a link between al-Qaida and diamonds. tionship between al-Qaida operatives and Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance Hansen: We have talked to the chief pros- Charles Taylor? of my time. ecutor and the chief investigator for the Spe- Shanklin: Well, it certainly says that Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, I ask cial Court of Sierra Leone. They remain ada- Charles Taylor didn’t want these people unanimous consent to claim the time mant that not only were al-Qaida operatives under arrest. in opposition, although I do not oppose in Liberia but they were—— What’s most ominous is that the special the amendment. Hamilton: We don’t deny that. court’s former chief investigator believes al- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- Hansen: That they were—— Qaida is still active in the region. And he’s Hamilton: Yeah. desperately trying to convince the U.S. gov- jection to the request of the gentleman Hansen:—trying to do diamond deals with ernment to do something about it. from California? Charles Taylor and others. ‘‘They’re here. They’re absolutely here,’’ There was no objection. Hamilton: We don’t even deny that. Trying says White. ‘‘I can’t tell you the number. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- to do is one thing, doing it is another. We But, what I can tell you is that there’s a sig- tleman from California (Mr. ROYCE) is were not charged with the responsibility of nificant presence in West Africa. I don’t recognized for 5 minutes.

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00026 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.027 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6135 Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, I yield removed. We underestimate him at our mass murder, sexual slavery, rape, hos- myself 31⁄2 minutes. peril, and it must be the policy of the tage-taking, amputations, forced con- I am pleased to join the gentlewoman United States to seek the transfer of scriptions of children and adults, from California (Ms. WATSON), a col- Charles Taylor to the Special Court. arson, looting, and many other abuses league on the Committee on Inter- This has to be a pillar in our policy to- of human rights. national Relations, in offering this im- wards West Africa. We need to press Nevertheless, the action by the Nige- portant amendment. As the gentle- harder than we have been. Bringing rian Government likely saved thou- woman has explained, this amendment Charles Taylor to justice will help fur- sands of lives and is providing at least states that it shall be the policy of the ther U.S.-Nigeria relations, help bring a chance for free elections in Liberia in United States to seek the expeditious peace to Liberia, and strengthen the October. However, the deal was not transfer of Charles Taylor to the Spe- rule of law on the continent. without conditions, and there is ample cial Court for Sierra Leone so that he It is time for Charles Taylor to face evidence that Charles Taylor has vio- can be tried for war crimes. up to his crimes. This amendment de- lated this asylum agreement. Mr. Chairman, Charles Taylor has serves the strong support of this House For example, Taylor is alleged to be been indicted on 17 counts of war of Representatives. cooperating with international ter- crimes and crimes against humanity by Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance rorist organizations. He is engaged in the Special Court for the role that he of my time. illicit trade in blood diamonds in viola- played in Sierra Leone’s brutal war. Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield tion of U.N. sanctions and is linked to This hybrid court, which has been sup- the balance of my time to the gen- the proliferation of small arms ported by this body, has been given ju- tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS). throughout the region. He has also de- risdiction over those who bear the Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I thank stabilized the entire subregion of West greatest responsibility for the atroc- my colleague for yielding me this time, Africa, leaving thousands dead and mil- ities and the human rights violations. and I strongly support this most im- lions displaced in its wake. And those atrocities were, indeed, portant amendment by the distin- Nigerian President Obasanjo refuses widespread. Human rights violations guished gentlewoman from California to end the asylum agreement, however, there were grave. During the 1990s, (Ms. WATSON). I encourage all of my unless there is irrefutable evidence of then-President Taylor of Liberia sup- colleagues on both sides of the aisle to violations by Taylor. I would point out ported what was called the Revolu- do the same. to my colleagues that on March 17, tionary United Front. That was des- Mr. Chairman, there is no doubt in Kofi Annan reported to the Security ignated by the State Department as a my mind that our friend and ally, the Council that Taylor’s former military terrorist organization. He supported country of Nigeria, should transfer commanders, party leaders, and busi- them in Sierra Leone, and they were Charles Taylor to the Special Court for ness associates maintain regular con- notorious for hacking off the limbs and Sierra Leone without any delay. tact with him and are planning to un- the arms and the legs even of young Taylor has been charged personally dermine Liberia’s return to democracy. I urge strong support for this amend- children. When I chaired the Africa with 17 counts of war crimes and ment. It is an outstanding one. Subcommittee, we hosted some of crimes against humanity. These A few days later, Jacques Klein, the UN those victims on Capitol Hill, child vic- charges include mutilations, rape, sex- Special Representative to the Secretary-Gen- tims; and we held numerous hearings ual slavery, forced recruitment of child eral on Liberia confirmed that Taylor is ‘‘still examining the chaos in West Africa soldiers, child abduction, and multiple killings. Many Members of this Con- very, much involved’’ in Liberian politics. caused by this one man, Charles Tay- Outgoing Chief Prosecutor for the Sierra gress witnessed the testimony of some lor. Leone Court, David Crane continues to ac- In May, the House overwhelmingly of Charles Taylor’s child victims, all of cuse Taylor of ‘‘ruling the country from his passed Resolution 127, and the Senate whom had amputated arms and legs, house arrest in Calabar’’ In southern Nigeria. concurred, calling on the Nigerian Gov- their bodies disfigured, and their lives So, yes President Obasanjo, there is plenty ernment to transfer Taylor to the Spe- transformed forever. of evidence that Charles Taylor has violated Mr. Chairman, there will be no jus- cial Court. I still have hope; yet today, the terms of his asylum. Has he continued to tice for the people of Sierra Leone Charles Taylor continues to safely re- destabilize not only Liberia, but also Cote until Charles Taylor stands in the side in exile in Nigeria. In August of d’Ivoire and Guinea? That has yet to be prov- dock. I urge my colleagues to support 2003, some believed that removing Tay- en in court, but there is enough evidence for this amendment. lor from Liberia and giving him exile him to be sent to the court in Sierra Leone to Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, I yield would prevent Liberia and West Africa find out. from destabilization. the balance of my time to the gen- President Bush raised this issue with Presi- Instead of facing justice at the Spe- tleman from New Jersey (Mr. SMITH), dent Obasanjo at a meeting in May, but U.S. cial Court in Freetown, though, Taylor chairman of the Africa, Global Human policy must consist of more than a brief dis- was given a seaside villa in Calabar, Ni- Rights and International Operations cussion. Whatever evidence we have must be geria; and in exchange, Taylor was sup- Subcommittee. shared with the Nigerian government, and posed to refrain from political activity, Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- then they must make up their mind if they but Taylor broke that deal. So 2 years man, I thank the gentleman for yield- want to continue in the direction of helping after the exile deal, Taylor is still very ing me this time. West Africa to heal or if they want to close I thank the gentleman from Cali- much involved in undermining Libe- their eyes to continued interference and fur- fornia (Mr. ROYCE) for his outstanding rian politics as the nation prepares for ther upheaval. elections. He is working to undermine work on this issue, and I rise in strong Surely, the time has come for Charles Tay- a peace process that has been sup- support of the gentlewoman from Cali- lor’s reign of terror in the region to reach its ported by the United States and Con- fornia’s (Ms. WATSON) very important final, conclusive end. gress with hundreds of millions of dol- amendment. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- lars, and he said he will return to Libe- Mr. Chairman, in August of 2003, the tion is on the amendment offered by ria. Government of Nigeria, at the urging the gentlewoman from California (Ms. I believe, and I think my colleagues of the governments of the United WATSON). believe, that he is going to try to re- States and Great Britain, gave asylum The question was taken; and the Act- turn because we remember his words. to then-Liberian President Charles ing Chairman announced that the ayes He said, when he got on that plane, Taylor. The purpose was to prevent appeared to have it. ‘‘God willing, I’ll be back.’’ further bloodshed and to allow for a Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I de- Mr. Chairman, Charles Taylor re- transition back to a democratically mand a recorded vote. mains a serious and continuing threat elected government in Liberia. The The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to to West African peace and security, deal was struck in spite of the indict- clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- which is counter to U.S. interests. I am ment of Taylor by the Special Court ceedings on the amendment offered by convinced that there will be no chance for Sierra Leone in June of that year the gentlewoman from California (Ms. for peace in West Africa until Taylor is on 17 counts of war crimes, including WATSON) will be postponed.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00027 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.054 H20JYPT1 H6136 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in forcement training, to enforce intellec- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- order to consider amendment No. 29 tual property protections, but we also tleman from California is recognized printed in part B of House Report 109– found that if the political will in for- for 21⁄2 minutes. 175. eign capitals to enforce these protec- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I want AMENDMENT NO. 29 OFFERED BY MS. WATSON tions is lacking, all the training in the to thank my friend for yielding me Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I offer world will fail to reduce piracy and time. an amendment. counterfeiting. For that reason, we Mr. Chairman, I want to commend The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk must make sure that our State Depart- the gentlewoman from California (Ms. will designate the amendment. ment has adequate funding and tools to WATSON) for her continued leadership The text of the amendment is as fol- engage foreign governments and con- on behalf of the protection of intellec- tual property. The gentlewoman’s lows: vince them of the need to enforce these laws. amendment will provide a modest au- Amendment No. 29 offered by Ms. WATSON: thorization of $5 million to assist less Page 24, after line 3, insert the following: I want to note that this sensible, bi- developed countries in their efforts to SEC. 107. ENHANCING PROTECTION OF INTEL- partisan amendment has been adopted LECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS. twice in the full House within the past draft and to enforce laws aimed at pro- In addition to such amounts as may other- 2 years. Unfortunately, the Senate tecting intellectual property in compli- wise be authorized to be appropriated for never passed this authorization. So I ance with international treaties and agreements. This authorization would such purpose, there are authorized to be ap- look forward to having this amend- propriated for the Department of State, also be available to train judges and ment adopted once again as part of the $5,000,000 to carry out the following activi- prosecutors in these countries in the foreign relations authorization bill. ties to enhance intellectual property laws proper application of new and existing Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance and enforcement in countries that are not statutes related to the protection of in- of my time. members of the Organization for Economic tellectual property. Cooperation and Development (OECD): Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I ask unani- Mr. Chairman, this is a very worth- (1) Provision of equipment and training for mous consent to claim the time in op- while amendment. The potential bene- foreign law enforcement, including in the in- position, although I do not oppose the terpretation of intellectual property laws. fits to the American economy in terms amendment. of the protection of intellectual prop- (2) Training for judges and prosecutors, in- The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. cluding in the interpretation of intellectual erty of our artists and of our inventors property laws. LATHAM). Without objection, the gen- that could result from this amendment (3) Assistance in complying with obliga- tleman from California is recognized passing are enormous, far outweighing tions under appropriate international copy- for 5 minutes. its modest costs. right and intellectual property treaties and There was no objection. Mr. Chairman, I urge all of my col- agreements. Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I yield my- leagues to support this thoughtful The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to self such time as I may consume. measure. House Resolution 365, the gentlewoman Mr. Chairman, I rise today in support Mr. ISSA. Mr. Chairman, I yield the from California (Ms. WATSON) and a and to help offer this amendment along balance of my time to the gentleman Member opposed each will control 5 with my colleague the gentlewoman from New Jersey (Mr. SMITH). minutes. from California (Ms. WATSON). We have The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- The Chair recognizes the gentle- worked together in the past to address tleman from New Jersey is recognized 1 woman from California (Ms. WATSON). these issues of intellectual property for 3 ⁄2 minutes. Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield theft, and I look forward to continuing Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- myself such time as I may consume. to work with her to address these man, on behalf of the majority of the This amendment, which I am offering issues in the future. committee, I want to express our with the gentleman from California Intellectual property theft continues strong support for this amendment. This amendment, the Watson-Issa (Mr. ISSA), would authorize $5 million to be one of the biggest threats to amendment, will continue to support for the State Department to work to American companies doing business programs similar to those that were improve intellectual property law and abroad. While we have begun to focus begun in fiscal year 2004. The State De- enforcement in developing countries. on the biggest offenders, China and partment has designed programs to Specifically, the Watson-Issa amend- Russia, where intellectual property target areas of the world that have sig- ment would direct the funding to ac- theft costs American companies bil- lions of dollars each year, we cannot nificant rates of intellectual property tivities in countries that are not mem- rights piracy with unique law enforce- bers of the Organization for Economic afford to ignore the copyright piracy taking place in other regions of the ment assistance. This assistance has Cooperation and Development under been tailored to particular activities in the auspices of the State Department’s world. This amendment would direct the various regions of the world. It is crit- Economic Bureau. These funds could be ical to support the intellectual prop- used for a wide range of activities, in- funding to activities in countries that are not members of the Organization erty rights community, Mr. Chairman, cluding posting IP experts abroad to as the United States is the world’s sin- for Economic Cooperation and Develop- help train foreign officials and improve gle largest creator, producer and ex- ment, OECD, under the auspices of the enforcement of intellectual property porter of copyrighted materials. laws. State Department’s Economic Bureau. Rampant piracy of creative works According to the recent figures from These funds will be used for a wide poses a significant risk to U.S. creative the International Intellectual Property range of activities, including assist- work products, including music, mov- Association, worldwide motion picture ance in procuring equipment to combat ies, video games and other software. As piracy losses for 2003 are estimated to piracy, posting intellectual property the U.S. copyright industry alone ac- be between $3 billion and $4 billion. experts abroad to help train foreign of- counts for nearly 6 percent of this Na- More than 52 million illegal optical ficers and to improve local enforce- tion’s GDP, it is an economic security discs of MPAA member companies were ment of intellectual property laws. issue as well for the United States. seized worldwide during the same year, This amendment will help ensure Mr. Chairman, I commend my two a result of 31,000 raids and more than that the State Department has the ade- colleagues for offering this very impor- 65,000 investigations. These numbers do quate tools to engage with foreign gov- tant amendment. not include the illegal file-sharing on ernments and to assist them in devel- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- the Internet. oping an infrastructure to enforce their tion is on the amendment offered by Our government continues to work to laws. I urge my colleagues to support the gentlewoman from California (Ms. secure legal protections for American- the Watson-Issa amendment. WATSON). produced intellectual property. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance The amendment was agreed to. of my time. SEQUENTIAL VOTES POSTPONED IN COMMITTEE b 1245 Ms. WATSON. Mr. Chairman, I yield OF THE WHOLE We work with numerous countries to the balance of my time to the gen- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to improve their legal codes and law en- tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS). clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings will

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00028 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.056 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6137 now resume on those amendments Gibbons Lynch Rohrabacher NOT VOTING—10 Gilchrest Mack Ros-Lehtinen printed in part B of House Report 109– Brady (TX) Hinojosa Slaughter Gillmor Maloney Ross Brown (SC) Jindal Sullivan 175 on which further proceedings were Gingrey Manzullo Rothman Davis (KY) McMorris Marchant postponed in the following order: Gohmert Roybal-Allard Feeney Simmons amendment No. 22 offered by the gen- Gonzalez Markey Royce Goode Marshall tleman from Iowa (Mr. KING); amend- Ruppersberger ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIRMAN Goodlatte Matheson Rush The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. ment No. 23 offered by the gentleman Gordon Matsui Ryan (OH) LATHAM) (during the vote). Members from Ohio (Mr. KUCINICH); amendment Granger McCarthy Ryan (WI) No. 24 offered by the gentleman from Graves McCaul (TX) Ryun (KS) are advised there are 2 minutes remain- Green (WI) McCollum (MN) California (Mr. LANTOS); amendment Sabo ing in this vote. Green, Al McCotter No. 26 offered by the gentleman from Salazar Green, Gene McCrery Sa´ nchez, Linda b 1314 Michigan (Mr. ROGERS); amendment Grijalva McDermott T. Mr. DOYLE changed his vote from No. 28 offered by the gentlewoman from Gutierrez McGovern Sanchez, Loretta Gutknecht McHenry California (Ms. WATSON). Sanders ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ Hall McHugh Saxton So the amendment was agreed to. The first electronic vote will be con- McIntyre Harman Schakowsky Harris McKeon The result of the vote was announced ducted as a 15-minute vote. Remaining Schiff Hart McKinney as above recorded. electronic votes will be conducted as 5- Schwartz (PA) Hastings (FL) McNulty minute votes. Schwarz (MI) Stated for: Hastings (WA) Meehan Scott (GA) Mr. DAVIS of Kentucky. Mr. Chairman, on AMENDMENT NO. 22 OFFERED BY MR. KING OF Hayes Meek (FL) Scott (VA) IOWA Hayworth Meeks (NY) rollcall No. 390, the King amendment No. 22, Sensenbrenner The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending Hefley Melancon I was unavoidably detained and am not re- Hensarling Menendez Serrano corded. Had I been present, I would have business is the demand for a recorded Sessions Herger Mica voted ‘‘aye.’’ vote on the amendment offered by the Herseth Michaud Shadegg Shaw Ms. SLAUGHTER. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall gentleman from Iowa (Mr. KING) on Higgins Millender- Shays which further proceedings were post- Hinchey McDonald No. 390, had I been present, I would have Hobson Miller (FL) Sherman voted ‘‘aye.’’ poned and on which the ayes prevailed Sherwood Hoekstra Miller (MI) Miss MCMORRIS. Mr. Chairman, on rollcall by voice vote. Miller (NC) Shimkus Holden No. 390, I was detained due to a meeting. The Clerk will redesignate the Holt Miller, Gary Shuster amendment. Honda Miller, George Simpson Had I been present, I would have voted ‘‘aye.’’ Hooley Mollohan Skelton AMENDMENT NO. 23 OFFERED BY MR. KUCINICH The Clerk redesignated the amend- Hostettler Moore (KS) Smith (NJ) ment. Hoyer Moore (WI) Smith (TX) The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending Moran (KS) business is the demand for a recorded RECORDED VOTE Hulshof Smith (WA) Hunter Moran (VA) Snyder vote on the amendment offered by the The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Hyde Murphy Sodrel gentleman from Ohio (Mr. KUCINICH) on vote has been demanded. Inglis (SC) Murtha Solis which further proceedings were post- A recorded vote was ordered. Inslee Musgrave Souder poned and on which the noes prevailed The vote was taken by electronic de- Israel Myrick Spratt Issa Nadler Stark by voice vote. vice, and there were—ayes 423, noes 0, Istook Napolitano Stearns The Clerk will redesignate the not voting 10, as follows: Jackson (IL) Neal (MA) Strickland amendment. [Roll No. 390] Jackson-Lee Neugebauer Stupak (TX) Ney Sweeney The Clerk redesignated the amend- AYES—423 Jefferson Northup Tancredo ment. Jenkins Norwood Abercrombie Brown-Waite, Davis, Jo Ann Tanner RECORDED VOTE Ackerman Ginny Davis, Tom Johnson (CT) Nunes Tauscher The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Aderholt Burgess Deal (GA) Johnson (IL) Nussle Taylor (MS) Oberstar Akin Burton (IN) DeFazio Johnson, E. B. Taylor (NC) vote has been demanded. Johnson, Sam Obey Alexander Butterfield DeGette Terry A recorded vote was ordered. Jones (NC) Olver Allen Buyer Delahunt Thomas Jones (OH) Ortiz The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be Andrews Calvert DeLauro Thompson (CA) Camp DeLay Kanjorski Osborne a 5-minute vote. Baca Thompson (MS) Cannon Dent Kaptur Otter Bachus Thornberry The vote was taken by electronic de- Cantor Diaz-Balart, L. Keller Owens Baird Tiahrt vice, and there were—ayes 124, noes 302, Capito Diaz-Balart, M. Kelly Oxley Baker Tiberi Capps Dicks Kennedy (MN) Pallone not voting 7, as follows: Baldwin Tierney Capuano Dingell Kennedy (RI) Pascrell [Roll No. 391] Barrett (SC) Towns Cardin Doggett Kildee Pastor Barrow Turner AYES—124 Bartlett (MD) Cardoza Doolittle Kilpatrick (MI) Paul Carnahan Udall (CO) Abercrombie Barton (TX) Doyle Kind Payne Frank (MA) McGovern Carson Drake Udall (NM) Ackerman Green, Al McKinney Bass King (IA) Pearce Carter Dreier Upton Allen Green, Gene McNulty Bean King (NY) Pelosi Case Duncan Van Hollen Andrews Grijalva Meehan Beauprez Kingston Pence Castle Edwards Vela´ zquez Baird Gutierrez Meeks (NY) Becerra Kirk Peterson (MN) Chabot Ehlers Visclosky Baldwin Hastings (FL) Michaud Berkley Kline Peterson (PA) Chandler Emanuel Walden (OR) Becerra Higgins Miller, George Berman Knollenberg Petri Chocola Emerson Walsh Berkley Hinchey Moore (WI) Berry Kolbe Pickering Clay Engel Kucinich Pitts Wamp Bishop (NY) Holt Nadler Biggert Cleaver English (PA) Blumenauer Honda Napolitano Kuhl (NY) Platts Wasserman Bilirakis Clyburn Eshoo Boswell Hooley Neal (MA) LaHood Poe Schultz Bishop (GA) Coble Etheridge Brady (PA) Inslee Oberstar Langevin Pombo Waters Bishop (NY) Cole (OK) Evans Brown (OH) Jackson (IL) Obey Lantos Pomeroy Watson Bishop (UT) Conaway Everett Capps Jackson-Lee Olver Larsen (WA) Porter Watt Blackburn Conyers Farr Capuano (TX) Owens Price (GA) Waxman Blumenauer Cooper Fattah Larson (CT) Carson Johnson, E. B. Pallone Blunt Latham Price (NC) Weiner Costa Ferguson Weldon (FL) Clay Jones (OH) Pascrell Boehlert Costello Filner LaTourette Pryce (OH) Cleaver Kaptur Pastor Weldon (PA) Boehner Cox Fitzpatrick (PA) Leach Putnam Conyers Kilpatrick (MI) Payne Weller Bonilla Cramer Flake Lee Radanovich Crowley Kucinich Pelosi Westmoreland Bonner Crenshaw Foley Levin Rahall Cummings Larsen (WA) Price (NC) Wexler Bono Crowley Forbes Lewis (CA) Ramstad Davis (IL) Larson (CT) Rahall Boozman Cubin Ford Lewis (GA) Rangel Whitfield DeFazio Leach Rangel Boren Cuellar Fortenberry Lewis (KY) Regula Wicker Delahunt Lee Rothman Boswell Culberson Fossella Linder Rehberg Wilson (NM) Dingell Lewis (GA) Roybal-Allard Boucher Cummings Foxx Lipinski Reichert Wilson (SC) Doggett Lofgren, Zoe Ruppersberger Boustany Cunningham Frank (MA) LoBiondo Renzi Wolf Doyle Lowey Ryan (OH) Boyd Davis (AL) Franks (AZ) Lofgren, Zoe Reyes Woolsey Engel Maloney Sabo Bradley (NH) Davis (CA) Frelinghuysen Lowey Reynolds Wu Evans Markey Sa´ nchez, Linda Brady (PA) Davis (FL) Gallegly Lucas Rogers (AL) Wynn Farr Matsui T. Brown (OH) Davis (IL) Garrett (NJ) Lungren, Daniel Rogers (KY) Young (AK) Fattah McCollum (MN) Sanchez, Loretta Brown, Corrine Davis (TN) Gerlach E. Rogers (MI) Young (FL) Filner McDermott Sanders

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00029 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.060 H20JYPT1 H6138 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 Schakowsky Stupak Wasserman Schwarz (MI) Souder Walden (OR) Davis (FL) Kind Pomeroy Schwartz (PA) Tauscher Schultz Scott (GA) Spratt Walsh Davis (IL) King (IA) Porter Scott (VA) Thompson (CA) Waters Sensenbrenner Stearns Wamp Davis (TN) King (NY) Price (GA) Serrano Tierney Watson Sessions Sweeney Weldon (FL) Davis, Tom Kirk Price (NC) Shays Towns Watt Shadegg Tancredo Weldon (PA) DeFazio Kline Pryce (OH) Sherman Udall (CO) Waxman Shaw Tanner Weller DeGette Knollenberg Putnam Slaughter Udall (NM) Weiner Sherwood Taylor (MS) Westmoreland Delahunt Kolbe Rahall Smith (WA) Van Hollen Woolsey Shimkus Taylor (NC) Wexler DeLauro Kucinich Ramstad Shuster Terry Solis Vela´ zquez Wu Whitfield DeLay Kuhl (NY) Rangel Stark Simmons Thomas Visclosky Wynn Wicker Dent LaHood Regula Strickland Simpson Thompson (MS) Diaz-Balart, L. Langevin Rehberg Wilson (NM) Skelton Thornberry Diaz-Balart, M. Lantos Reichert Wilson (SC) NOES—302 Smith (NJ) Tiahrt Dicks Larsen (WA) Reyes Wolf Smith (TX) Tiberi Dingell Larson (CT) Reynolds Aderholt Ehlers Lewis (KY) Young (AK) Snyder Turner Doggett Latham Rogers (AL) Akin Emanuel Linder Sodrel Upton Young (FL) Doyle LaTourette Rogers (KY) Alexander Emerson Lipinski Drake Leach Rogers (MI) Baca English (PA) LoBiondo NOT VOTING—7 Dreier Lee Ros-Lehtinen Bachus Eshoo Lucas Brady (TX) Hinojosa Sullivan Edwards Levin Ross Baker Etheridge Lungren, Daniel Brown (SC) Jindal Ehlers Lewis (CA) Rothman Barrett (SC) Everett E. Davis (KY) Rush Emanuel Lewis (GA) Roybal-Allard Barrow Feeney Lynch Emerson Lewis (KY) Ruppersberger Bartlett (MD) Ferguson Mack ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIRMAN Barton (TX) Fitzpatrick (PA) Manzullo Engel Linder Rush Bass Flake Marchant The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. English (PA) Lipinski Ryan (OH) Bean Foley Marshall LATHAM) (during the vote). Members Eshoo LoBiondo Ryan (WI) Beauprez Forbes Matheson are advised that there are 2 minutes re- Etheridge Lofgren, Zoe Ryun (KS) Evans Lowey Sabo Berman Ford McCarthy maining in this vote. Berry Fortenberry McCaul (TX) Everett Lucas Salazar Biggert Fossella McCotter Farr Lungren, Daniel Sa´ nchez, Linda Bilirakis Foxx McCrery b 1322 Fattah E. T. Bishop (GA) Franks (AZ) McHenry Feeney Lynch Sanchez, Loretta Bishop (UT) Frelinghuysen McHugh So the amendment was rejected. Ferguson Mack Sanders Blackburn Gallegly McIntyre The result of the vote was announced Filner Maloney Saxton Markey Schakowsky Blunt Garrett (NJ) McKeon as above recorded. Fitzpatrick (PA) Boehlert Gerlach McMorris Flake Marshall Schiff Boehner Gibbons Meek (FL) Stated against: Foley Matheson Schwartz (PA) Bonilla Gilchrest Melancon Mr. DAVIS of Kentucky. Mr. Chairman, on Ford Matsui Schwarz (MI) Bonner Gillmor Menendez rollcall No. 391, the Kucinich amendment, I Fortenberry McCarthy Scott (GA) Bono Gingrey Mica Fossella McCaul (TX) Scott (VA) Boozman Gohmert Millender- was unavoidably detained and am not re- Frank (MA) McCollum (MN) Sensenbrenner Boren Gonzalez McDonald corded. Had I been present, I would have Frelinghuysen McCotter Serrano Boucher Goode Miller (FL) voted ‘‘no.’’ Gallegly McCrery Shadegg Boustany Goodlatte Miller (MI) Gerlach McDermott Shays Boyd Gordon Miller (NC) AMENDMENT NO. 24 OFFERED BY MR. LANTOS Gilchrest McGovern Sherman Bradley (NH) Granger Miller, Gary The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending Gillmor McHugh Sherwood Brown, Corrine Graves Mollohan business is the demand for a recorded Gingrey McIntyre Shimkus Brown-Waite, Green (WI) Moore (KS) Gonzalez McKeon Simmons Ginny Gutknecht Moran (KS) vote on the amendment offered by the Goodlatte McKinney Simpson Burgess Hall Moran (VA) gentleman from California (Mr. LAN- Gordon McMorris Skelton Burton (IN) Harman Murphy TOS) on which further proceedings were Granger McNulty Slaughter Butterfield Harris Murtha postponed and on which the ayes pre- Graves Meehan Smith (NJ) Buyer Hart Musgrave Green (WI) Meek (FL) Smith (WA) Calvert Hastings (WA) Myrick vailed by voice vote. Green, Al Meeks (NY) Snyder Camp Hayes Neugebauer The Clerk will redesignate the Green, Gene Melancon Sodrel Cannon Hayworth Ney amendment. Grijalva Menendez Solis Cantor Hefley Northup The Clerk redesignated the amend- Gutierrez Mica Souder Capito Hensarling Norwood Hall Michaud Spratt Cardin Herger Nunes ment. Harman Millender- Stark Cardoza Herseth Nussle RECORDED VOTE Harris McDonald Stearns Carnahan Hobson Ortiz Hart Miller (MI) Strickland Carter Hoekstra Osborne The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Hastings (FL) Miller (NC) Stupak Case Holden Otter vote has been demanded. Hastings (WA) Miller, George Sullivan Castle Hostettler Oxley A recorded vote was ordered. Hayes Mollohan Sweeney Chabot Hoyer Paul The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be Hensarling Moore (KS) Tanner Chandler Hulshof Pearce Herseth Moore (WI) Tauscher Chocola Hunter Pence a 5-minute vote. Higgins Moran (KS) Taylor (MS) Clyburn Hyde Peterson (MN) The vote was taken by electronic de- Hinchey Moran (VA) Terry Coble Inglis (SC) Peterson (PA) vice, and there were—ayes 373, noes 56, Hobson Murphy Thomas Cole (OK) Israel Petri not voting 4, as follows: Hoekstra Murtha Thompson (CA) Conaway Issa Pickering Holden Musgrave Thompson (MS) Cooper Istook Pitts [Roll No. 392] Holt Nadler Thornberry Costa Jefferson Platts AYES—373 Honda Napolitano Tiahrt Costello Jenkins Poe Hooley Neal (MA) Tiberi Cox Johnson (CT) Pombo Abercrombie Boehlert Carnahan Hoyer Neugebauer Tierney Cramer Johnson (IL) Pomeroy Ackerman Boehner Carson Hulshof Ney Towns Crenshaw Johnson, Sam Porter Aderholt Bonner Carter Hunter Northup Turner Cubin Jones (NC) Price (GA) Alexander Bono Case Hyde Nunes Udall (CO) Cuellar Kanjorski Pryce (OH) Allen Boozman Castle Inglis (SC) Oberstar Udall (NM) Culberson Keller Putnam Andrews Boren Chabot Inslee Obey Upton Cunningham Kelly Radanovich Baca Boswell Chandler Israel Olver Van Hollen Davis (AL) Kennedy (MN) Ramstad Bachus Boucher Chocola Issa Ortiz Vela´ zquez Davis (CA) Kennedy (RI) Regula Baird Boustany Clay Istook Osborne Visclosky Davis (FL) Kildee Rehberg Baker Boyd Cleaver Jackson (IL) Owens Walsh Davis (TN) Kind Reichert Baldwin Bradley (NH) Clyburn Jackson-Lee Oxley Wamp Davis, Jo Ann King (IA) Renzi Barrow Brady (PA) Cole (OK) (TX) Pallone Wasserman Davis, Tom King (NY) Reyes Barton (TX) Brown (OH) Conaway Jefferson Pascrell Schultz Deal (GA) Kingston Reynolds Bass Brown, Corrine Conyers Johnson (CT) Pastor Waters DeGette Kirk Rogers (AL) Bean Burton (IN) Cooper Johnson (IL) Payne Watson DeLauro Kline Rogers (KY) Beauprez Butterfield Costa Johnson, E. B. Pearce Watt DeLay Knollenberg Rogers (MI) Becerra Buyer Costello Jones (OH) Pelosi Waxman Dent Kolbe Rohrabacher Berkley Calvert Cox Kanjorski Pence Weiner Diaz-Balart, L. Kuhl (NY) Ros-Lehtinen Berman Camp Cramer Kaptur Peterson (MN) Weldon (FL) Diaz-Balart, M. LaHood Ross Berry Cannon Crenshaw Keller Peterson (PA) Weldon (PA) Dicks Langevin Royce Biggert Cantor Crowley Kelly Petri Weller Doolittle Lantos Ryan (WI) Bishop (GA) Capito Cuellar Kennedy (MN) Pickering Wexler Drake Latham Ryun (KS) Bishop (NY) Capps Cummings Kennedy (RI) Pitts Whitfield Dreier LaTourette Salazar Bishop (UT) Capuano Cunningham Kildee Platts Wicker Duncan Levin Saxton Blumenauer Cardin Davis (AL) Kilpatrick (MI) Poe Wilson (NM) Edwards Lewis (CA) Schiff Blunt Cardoza Davis (CA)

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00030 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.025 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6139 Wilson (SC) Woolsey Wynn Hyde Moran (KS) Royce Ramstad Shays Towns Wolf Wu Young (AK) Issa Murphy Ryun (KS) Rangel Sherman Udall (CO) Jenkins Musgrave Saxton Renzi Shimkus Udall (NM) NOES—56 Johnson, Sam Myrick Schwarz (MI) Reyes Shuster Upton Akin Franks (AZ) Myrick Jones (NC) Neugebauer Sensenbrenner Ross Simmons Van Hollen Barrett (SC) Garrett (NJ) Norwood Keller Northup Sessions Rothman Skelton Vela´ zquez Bartlett (MD) Gibbons Nussle King (IA) Norwood Shadegg Roybal-Allard Slaughter Visclosky Bilirakis Gohmert Otter King (NY) Nussle Sherwood Ruppersberger Smith (NJ) Wamp Blackburn Goode Paul Kingston Osborne Simpson Rush Smith (WA) Wasserman Bonilla Gutknecht Pombo Knollenberg Otter Smith (TX) Ryan (OH) Snyder Schultz Brown-Waite, Hayworth Radanovich Kolbe Oxley Sodrel Ryan (WI) Solis Waters Ginny Hefley Renzi Kuhl (NY) Paul Souder Sabo Spratt Watson Burgess Herger Rohrabacher Latham Pearce Sullivan Salazar Stark Watt Coble Hostettler Royce Lewis (CA) Pence Sweeney Sa´ nchez, Linda Stearns Waxman Cubin Jenkins Sessions Lewis (KY) Peterson (PA) Tancredo T. Strickland Weiner Culberson Johnson, Sam Shaw LoBiondo Pitts Terry Sanchez, Loretta Stupak Weldon (FL) Davis (KY) Jones (NC) Shuster Mack Poe Thornberry Sanders Tanner Weldon (PA) Davis, Jo Ann Kingston Smith (TX) Manzullo Porter Tiahrt Schakowsky Tauscher Weller Deal (GA) Manzullo Tancredo Marchant Price (GA) Tiberi Schiff Taylor (MS) Wexler Doolittle Marchant Taylor (NC) McCaul (TX) Regula Turner Schwartz (PA) Taylor (NC) Wolf Duncan McHenry Walden (OR) McCotter Rehberg Walden (OR) Scott (GA) Thomas Woolsey Forbes Miller (FL) Westmoreland McCrery Reichert Walsh Scott (VA) Thompson (CA) Wu Foxx Miller, Gary Young (FL) McHenry Reynolds Westmoreland Serrano Thompson (MS) Wynn McHugh Rogers (AL) Whitfield Shaw Tierney Young (AK) NOT VOTING—4 McKeon Rogers (KY) Wicker NOT VOTING—4 Brady (TX) Hinojosa McMorris Rogers (MI) Wilson (NM) Brown (SC) Jindal Meeks (NY) Rohrabacher Wilson (SC) Brady (TX) Hinojosa Mica Ros-Lehtinen Young (FL) Brown (SC) Jindal ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIRMAN The Acting CHAIRMAN (during the NOES—273 ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIRMAN vote). Members are advised that there Abercrombie Doolittle Larson (CT) The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. are 2 minutes remaining in this vote. Ackerman Doyle LaTourette LATHAM) (during the vote). Members Allen Edwards Leach are advised there are 2 minutes remain- Andrews Ehlers Lee ing in this vote. b 1332 Baca Emanuel Levin Baird Engel Lewis (GA) b 1340 Messrs. ROHRABACHER, SHAW and Baldwin English (PA) Linder ROYCE changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ Barrow Eshoo Lipinski Mr. MEEK of Florida changed his to ‘‘no.’’ Barton (TX) Etheridge Lofgren, Zoe vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no’’. So the amendment was agreed to. Bass Evans Lowey Bean Farr Lucas So the amendment was rejected. The result of the vote was announced Becerra Fattah Lungren, Daniel The result of the vote was announced as above recorded. Berkley Ferguson E. as above recorded. Berman Filner Lynch AMENDMENT NO. 26 OFFERED BY MR. ROGERS OF Berry Fitzpatrick (PA) Maloney AMENDMENT NO. 28 OFFERED BY MS. WATSON MICHIGAN Bishop (GA) Ford Markey The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending Bishop (NY) Foxx Marshall business is the demand for a recorded business is the demand for a recorded Blumenauer Frank (MA) Matheson Boren Gilchrest Matsui vote on the amendment offered by the vote on the amendment offered by the Boswell Gillmor McCarthy gentlewoman from California (Ms. gentleman from Michigan (Mr. ROGERS) Boucher Gingrey McCollum (MN) WATSON) on which further proceedings on which further proceedings were Boyd Gonzalez McDermott were postponed and on which the ayes postponed and on which the ayes pre- Bradley (NH) Goodlatte McGovern Brady (PA) Gordon McIntyre prevailed by voice vote. vailed by voice vote. Brown (OH) Green (WI) McKinney The Clerk will redesignate the The Clerk will redesignate the Brown, Corrine Green, Al McNulty amendment. amendment. Brown-Waite, Grijalva Meehan Ginny Gutierrez Meek (FL) The Clerk redesignated the amend- The Clerk redesignated the amend- Butterfield Gutknecht Melancon ment. ment. Camp Harman Menendez RECORDED VOTE RECORDED VOTE Cannon Hart Michaud Capito Hastings (FL) Millender- The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Capps Hayworth McDonald vote has been demanded. vote has been demanded. Capuano Herseth Miller (FL) A recorded vote was ordered. A recorded vote was ordered. Cardin Higgins Miller (MI) Cardoza Hinchey Miller (NC) The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be Carnahan Hoekstra Miller, Gary a 5-minute vote. a 5-minute vote. Carson Holden Miller, George The vote was taken by electronic de- The vote was taken by electronic de- Case Holt Mollohan vice, and there were—ayes 422, noes 2, vice, and there were—ayes 156, noes 273, Castle Honda Moore (KS) Chandler Hooley Moore (WI) not voting 9, as follows: not voting 4, as follows: Clay Hoyer Moran (VA) [Roll No. 394] [Roll No. 393] Cleaver Inglis (SC) Murtha Clyburn Inslee Nadler AYES—422 AYES—156 Conyers Israel Napolitano Abercrombie Bilirakis Burgess Aderholt Cantor Fortenberry Cooper Istook Neal (MA) Ackerman Bishop (GA) Burton (IN) Akin Carter Fossella Costa Jackson (IL) Ney Aderholt Bishop (NY) Butterfield Alexander Chabot Franks (AZ) Costello Jackson-Lee Nunes Akin Bishop (UT) Buyer Bachus Chocola Frelinghuysen Cramer (TX) Oberstar Alexander Blackburn Calvert Baker Coble Gallegly Crenshaw Jefferson Obey Allen Blumenauer Camp Barrett (SC) Cole (OK) Garrett (NJ) Crowley Johnson (CT) Olver Andrews Blunt Cannon Bartlett (MD) Conaway Gerlach Cubin Johnson (IL) Ortiz Baca Boehlert Capito Beauprez Cox Gibbons Cuellar Johnson, E. B. Owens Bachus Boehner Capps Biggert Culberson Gohmert Cummings Jones (OH) Pallone Baird Bonilla Capuano Bilirakis Davis (KY) Goode Cunningham Kanjorski Pascrell Baker Bonner Cardin Bishop (UT) Davis, Jo Ann Granger Davis (AL) Kaptur Pastor Baldwin Bono Cardoza Blackburn DeLay Graves Davis (CA) Kelly Payne Barrett (SC) Boozman Carnahan Blunt Dent Green, Gene Davis (FL) Kennedy (MN) Pelosi Barrow Boren Carson Boehlert Diaz-Balart, L. Hall Davis (IL) Kennedy (RI) Peterson (MN) Bartlett (MD) Boswell Carter Boehner Diaz-Balart, M. Harris Davis (TN) Kildee Petri Barton (TX) Boucher Case Bonilla Drake Hastings (WA) Davis, Tom Kilpatrick (MI) Pickering Bass Boustany Castle Bonner Dreier Hayes Deal (GA) Kind Platts Bean Boyd Chabot Bono Duncan Hefley DeFazio Kirk Pombo Beauprez Bradley (NH) Chandler Boozman Emerson Hensarling DeGette Kline Pomeroy Becerra Brady (PA) Chocola Boustany Everett Herger Delahunt Kucinich Price (NC) Berkley Brown (OH) Clay Burgess Feeney Hobson DeLauro LaHood Pryce (OH) Berman Brown, Corrine Cleaver Burton (IN) Flake Hostettler Dicks Langevin Putnam Berry Brown-Waite, Clyburn Buyer Foley Hulshof Dingell Lantos Radanovich Biggert Ginny Coble Calvert Forbes Hunter Doggett Larsen (WA) Rahall

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:18 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00031 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.017 H20JYPT1 H6140 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 Cole (OK) Hoekstra Miller, Gary Smith (NJ) Thomas Watson The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Conaway Holden Miller, George Smith (TX) Thompson (CA) Watt House Resolution 365, the gentlewoman Conyers Holt Mollohan Smith (WA) Thompson (MS) Waxman Cooper Honda Moore (KS) Snyder Thornberry Weiner from Nevada (Ms. BERKLEY) and the Costa Hooley Moore (WI) Sodrel Tiahrt Weldon (FL) gentleman from Massachusetts (Mr. Costello Hostettler Moran (KS) Solis Tiberi Weldon (PA) FRANK) each will control 5 minutes. Cox Hoyer Moran (VA) Souder Tierney Weller The Chair recognizes the gentle- Cramer Hulshof Murphy Spratt Towns Westmoreland Stark Turner woman from Nevada (Ms. BERKLEY). Crenshaw Hunter Murtha Wexler Stearns Udall (CO) Crowley Hyde Musgrave Whitfield Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield Cubin Inglis (SC) Myrick Strickland Udall (NM) Wicker myself such time as I may consume, Cuellar Inslee Nadler Stupak Upton Wilson (NM) Culberson Israel Napolitano Sullivan Van Hollen and I want to begin by thanking the Wilson (SC) Cummings Issa Neal (MA) Sweeney Vela´ zquez chairman, the gentleman from Illinois Wolf Cunningham Istook Neugebauer Tancredo Visclosky (Mr. HYDE), and my dear friend, the Woolsey Davis (AL) Jackson (IL) Ney Tanner Walden (OR) ranking member, the gentleman from Davis (CA) Jackson-Lee Northup Tauscher Walsh Wu Davis (FL) (TX) Norwood Taylor (MS) Wamp Wynn California (Mr. LANTOS), for helping Davis (IL) Jefferson Nunes Taylor (NC) Wasserman Young (AK) with this amendment. Davis (KY) Jenkins Nussle Terry Schultz Young (FL) Since the 1993 Oslo Accord, the Davis (TN) Johnson (CT) Oberstar NOES—2 United States has given more than $1.8 Davis, Jo Ann Johnson (IL) Obey Davis, Tom Johnson, E. B. Olver Dreier Paul billion to the Palestinians. In that Deal (GA) Johnson, Sam Ortiz NOT VOTING—9 same time we have given over $130 mil- DeFazio Jones (NC) Osborne lion directly to the Palestinian Au- Brady (TX) Diaz-Balart, M. McKinney DeGette Jones (OH) Otter thority. We have given this assistance Delahunt Kanjorski Owens Brown (SC) Hinojosa Simmons DeLauro Kaptur Oxley Cantor Jindal Waters despite no accountability, no modern DeLay Keller Pallone b 1347 financial controls, no transparency, Dent Kelly Pascrell and no actual knowledge of where our Diaz-Balart, L. Kennedy (MN) Pastor So the amendment was agreed to. taxpayers’ dollars are going. Dicks Kennedy (RI) Payne The result of the vote was announced The amendment I have introduced, Dingell Kildee Pearce as above recorded. Doggett Kilpatrick (MI) Pelosi along with the gentleman from New The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Doolittle Kind Pence York (Mr. CROWLEY), would force the LATHAM). It is now in order to consider Doyle King (IA) Peterson (MN) Palestinian Authority to be account- Drake King (NY) Peterson (PA) amendment No. 30 printed in part B of able, finally, for the money given by Duncan Kingston Petri House Report 109–175. Edwards Kirk Pickering the United States. It would also pro- Ehlers Kline Pitts AMENDMENT NO. 30 OFFERED BY MS. BERKLEY vide Congress with the ability to end Emanuel Knollenberg Platts Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I offer Emerson Kolbe Poe the aid if the certification require- an amendment. ments of this bill are not met. Engel Kucinich Pombo The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk English (PA) Kuhl (NY) Pomeroy My amendment mandates only 25 Eshoo LaHood Porter will designate the amendment. percent of direct aid to the Palestinian Langevin The text of the amendment is as fol- Etheridge Price (GA) Authority can be spent in any one cal- Evans Lantos Price (NC) lows: Everett Larsen (WA) Pryce (OH) endar quarter, instead of all the money Amendment No. 30 offered by Ms. BERKLEY: Farr Larson (CT) Putnam Page 220, after line 15, insert the following: being obligated at the beginning of the Fattah Latham Radanovich year. Each quarter the Palestinian Au- Feeney LaTourette Rahall (a) DECLARATION OF POLICY.—It shall be the Ferguson Leach Ramstad policy of the United States to promote the thority can spend another 25 percent of Filner Lee Rangel emergence of a democratic Palestinian gov- the total aid package as long as they Fitzpatrick (PA) Levin Regula ernment that— meet the certification requirements. Flake Lewis (CA) Rehberg (1) denounces and combats terrorism; The overall aid package remains un- Foley Lewis (GA) Reichert (2) has agreed to disarm and dismantle any changed. Forbes Lewis (KY) Renzi terrorist agency, network, or facility; Ford Linder Reyes The amendment contains a declara- (3) has agreed to work to eliminate incite- Fortenberry Lipinski Reynolds tion of policy that the United States Fossella LoBiondo Rogers (AL) ment and the commemoration of terrorists Foxx Lofgren, Zoe Rogers (KY) in Palestinian society; should promote the emergence of a Frank (MA) Lowey Rogers (MI) (4) has agreed to respect the boundaries democratic Palestinian government Franks (AZ) Lucas Rohrabacher and sovereignty of its neighbors; and that denounces and combats terrorism; Frelinghuysen Lungren, Daniel Ros-Lehtinen (5) acknowledges, respects, and upholds the that works to eliminate terrorist in- Gallegly E. Ross human rights of all people. citement; that has agreed to respect Garrett (NJ) Lynch Rothman Page 220, line 16, strike ‘‘(a)’’ and insert Gerlach Mack Roybal-Allard the boundaries and sovereignty of all of ‘‘(b)’’. Gibbons Maloney Royce its neighbors; and that respects the Gilchrest Manzullo Ruppersberger Page 221, line 3, strike ‘‘LIMITATION’’ and Gillmor Marchant Rush insert ‘‘LIMITATIONS’’. human rights of all people. Gingrey Markey Ryan (OH) Page 221, line 3, strike ‘‘Assistance’’ and If at some point during the year Con- Gohmert Marshall Ryan (WI) insert the following: gress is unsatisfied with how the Gonzalez Matheson Ryun (KS) ‘‘(1) CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT.—Assist- money is being spent or if the Pales- Goode Matsui Sabo ance’’. tinian Authority fails to meet their Goodlatte McCarthy Salazar Page 221, after line 6, insert the following ´ certification requirements; if the PA Gordon McCaul (TX) Sanchez, Linda new paragraph: Granger McCollum (MN) T. ‘‘(2) AMOUNT OF ASSISTANCE REQUIREMENT.— has not taken concrete steps to end Graves McCotter Sanchez, Loretta terrorism; if the Palestinian Authority Green (WI) McCrery Sanders Of the total amount of funds that are avail- Green, Al McDermott Saxton able for assistance under this Act or any has not made demonstrable progress Green, Gene McGovern Schakowsky other provision of law to the Palestinian Au- towards democracy; if the PA has not Grijalva McHenry Schiff thority during a period for which a certifi- dismantled the terrorist infrastructure Gutierrez McHugh Schwartz (PA) cation described in subsection (b) is in effect, and ended incitement, Congress can Gutknecht McIntyre Schwarz (MI) not more than 25 percent of such amount Hall McKeon Scott (GA) stop the flow of money. Harman McMorris Scott (VA) may be obligated and expended during any If the Palestinian Authority lives up calendar quarter.’’. Harris McNulty Sensenbrenner to its responsibility and honors its Hart Meehan Serrano Page 223, line 13, strike the closing Hastings (FL) Meek (FL) Sessions quotation marks and the second period. commitment, then our aid to the Pal- Hastings (WA) Meeks (NY) Shadegg Page 223, after line 13, insert the following estinians will flow unfettered, and in Hayes Melancon Shaw new subsection: the exact same amount. However, if Hayworth Menendez Shays ‘‘(e) DEFINITION OF CALENDAR QUARTER.—In Hefley Mica Sherman the Palestinian Authority fails to live this section, the term ‘calendar quarter’ up to its responsibility and violence Hensarling Michaud Sherwood means any three-month period beginning on Herger Millender- Shimkus January 1, April 1, July 1, or October 1 of a consumes the region, if another Herseth McDonald Shuster intifada begins, if it turns out that our Higgins Miller (FL) Simpson calendar year.’’. Hinchey Miller (MI) Skelton Page 223, line 14, strike ‘‘(b)’’ and insert aid is used to fund Hamas, Islamic Hobson Miller (NC) Slaughter ‘‘(c)’’. jihad, or other terrorist organizations,

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00032 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.026 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6141 then Congress should discontinue the While I agree with the declaration of Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield aid. This amendment gives us that op- policy, I believe that restrictions on the balance of my time to the gen- tion. funding to the Palestinian Authority tleman from New York (Mr. CROWLEY). To be clear, the amendment would ought to be left to the decision of the Mr. CROWLEY. Mr. Chairman, I not end humanitarian aid and assist- executive branch. I trust George Bush thank the gentlewoman from Nevada ance within the territories controlled on this, and I trust this administra- for yielding me this time, and I rise in by the Palestinian Authority. It would tion. I believe they are as committed support of the amendment offered by not affect the overall amount of aid to the declaration of policy as any of my good friend and myself. provided to the Palestinian Authority. us. And I think in this case it is impor- The Prime Minister of Israel and the It requires the accountability that tant for them to have some flexibility. Israeli people have taken the first bold should be a necessary component of I do not find the Palestinian Author- steps through the disengagement plan. foreign aid and that Congress should ity any model of democratic govern- Now it is time for the Palestinian Au- expect from all of those entities that ance, but it is clearly in everybody’s thority to match its words with its ac- accept foreign aid from the United interest, and the Israeli government tions and live up to its commitment to States and our taxpayers. I urge the agrees to this, to have the Palestinian be a true partner for success and sta- adoption of the amendment. Authority strengthened vis-a-vis the bility in the Middle East. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance terrorists of Hamas. Maybe the right Our amendment will tighten up lan- of my time. way to do it will be to cut back; maybe guage dealing with aid to the Pales- Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. it will not be. I do not think that is a tinian Authority. Both the gentle- Chairman, I rise in opposition to the judgment we can make here. woman from Nevada and I believe that amendment. Again, when we have in power an we should be doing all we can to help Mr. Chairman, this is a two-page Israel and a United States with demo- the Palestinian Authority, but that amendment. If it were a one-page cratically elected governments that benchmarks need to be set in place. amendment, I would be an enthusiastic are committed to this process, having Over the past 10 years, Congress has supporter. The declaration of policy these congressional restrictions, I be- had little to no accountability over the urging our government to promote the lieve, is a hindrance; and this notion no aid we have given to the Palestinian emergence of a democratic Palestinian more than 25 percent can be spent in a Authority. As aid from the United government is greatly to be desired. quarter does not, to me, have any sub- States begins to flow into the Pales- I must say the fifth item, insisting stantive policy reason. Maybe there tinian Authority, we must use this aid that it acknowledges, respects, and up- will be a joint decision by Prime Min- to promote a true democratic govern- holds the human rights of all people, if ister Sharon and President Bush that ment for the Palestinian people. they would do everything else here, re- the Palestinian Authority is in fact Mr. Chairman, our amendment would spect the right of Israel to exist, repu- doing what it should do and they want force accountability over this money diate terrorism, that would be suffi- to be able to give them more money in and provide Congress with the ability cient for me. We have some people we a period of time. I do not think it is ap- to end the flow of funding, or quite work with who do not uphold the propriate for this Congress to restrict frankly would allow the President to human rights of all people. But in gen- that. end the flowing and the funding of this eral I like the declaration. I do not So I agree with the declaration of money if the certification require- think, however, that we should impose policy. If we were in the whole House, ments in the bill are not met. these restrictions on the funding. I would ask unanimous consent that b 1400 This is an issue on which I trust the amendment be modified for that President Bush and Prime Minister purpose, but I cannot do it in the Com- This amendment will make sure our Sharon. Those are not people with mittee of the Whole, and I would vote aid to the Palestinian Authority is tied whom I am always allied. I believe that for that. But I do not think we should to the emergence of a democratic Pal- Prime Minister Sharon, a political fig- impose these restrictions on the fund- estinian government that is working to ure with whom I have not always found ing for the Palestinian Authority as a overcome four important issues. myself in agreement, I have said if I sign we do not trust President Bush The first is that they denounce and lived in Israel, I would not vote for and the Government of Israel jointly to combat terrorism and work to disarm Ariel Sharon. If he lived in Brookline, make those decisions. terrorists; secondly, agree to work to he would not vote for me. We can get Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance eliminate terrorist incitement, includ- along. Although I think he probably of my time. ing their textbooks and what the chil- occupies more of my thinking than I do Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield dren are taught; thirdly, agree to re- of his. But I admire his willingness to myself such time as I may consume, spect boundary and sovereignty of its go forward with a policy that I think is and I am delighted the gentleman from neighbors; and finally, respect human very much in the interest of Israel. Massachusetts agrees with the declara- rights for all people. I, as an American Jew, and I will be tion, but I would like to point out to I believe we must have full account- in Israel in August and I will be there those of us who are voting here that ability over the aid we give to make again in January, I share the goal of a these are American taxpayer dollars sure that the emergence of a demo- secure Israel as a Jewish democratic and Congress has a responsibility to cratic Palestinian government can nation, and I admire the insight of have some accountability and ensure take place. Prime Minister Sharon and Deputy some transparency before we give As was pointed out, these are U.S. Prime Minister Olmert, that an Israel money away. Federal taxpayer dollars being ex- which governs millions of hostile Pal- The United States Congress has no pended. We want accountability as to estinians will have a hard time being apology to make to the Palestinian Au- how those moneys are expended, and Jewish and democratic, and, therefore, thority. Since 1993, we have given over there is a Presidential waiver. This is, I support Israel’s effort to reach peace. $1.8 billion to the Palestinian Author- quite simply, a tool that the President There is no guarantee that it is pos- ity. We have yet to get an accounting can use to coax and to move the Pal- sible. It is a difficult situation. But I for a single one of those dollars. And estinians toward a peaceful settlement. do not think we in Congress should also included in this amendment is a Mr. FRANK of Massachusetts. Mr. make it more difficult. waiver, a Presidential waiver. If he is Chairman, I yield myself the balance of There are people within Israel who do unsatisfied or wants to waive our re- my time. not agree with what Prime Minister striction, he has the ability to do so. I am always puzzled when in defense Sharon is doing, but they have not This gives the President an additional of an amendment we are told that it is been able to get a majority in the tool. really not going to mean anything. We Israeli parliament, the Knesset. I do Mr. Chairman, may I inquire as to are told the President can waive it. not want to see them win a partial vic- how much time I have remaining? Well, frankly, I think the purpose of an tory in the U.S. House of Representa- The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). amendment is not to waive it, W-A-I-V- tives that they cannot win in the The gentlewoman from Nevada has 2 E, but for some of us to wave it, W-A- Knesset. minutes remaining. V-E, as a sign of what we think.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00033 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.071 H20JYPT1 H6142 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 I am all in favor of this declaration, the conditions of occupation. Both sides have The text of the amendment is as fol- but I think the amendment’s operative obligations under the Road Map. lows: part restricting funding might get in And more than anything, the U.S. govern- Amendment No. 32 offered by Ms. ESHOO: the way. The single most important ment must use this opportunity to work with Page 246, after line 7, insert the following issue, it seems to me, is that the Pales- both parties to ensure that the turnover of new section: tinian Authority should agree to dis- Gaza from Israel to the Palestinians is care- SEC. 956. SENSE OF CONGRESS REGARDING AS- SISTANCE FOR CHALDOASSYRIANS arm and dismantle any terrorist agen- fully coordinated and that the myriad of secu- AND OTHER INDIGENOUS CHRIS- cy network or facility. I agree that is rity, economic, and infrastructure issues are TIANS IN IRAQ. essential. They have to be willing to dealt with fairly and quickly. (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- confront Hamas, but they cannot do it Mr. Chairman, not only must the Berkley lowing: without money. What are they going to amendment be defeated, but I wish the under- (1) ChaldoAssyrians and other indigenous Christians in Iraq welcome the opportunity do it with, rhetoric? lying bill would not have included such oner- ous conditions and limitations on Palestinian following Iraq’s liberation to move beyond We are taking a gamble, there is no the days of repression and persecution and question. If the Palestinian Authority aid. toward greater prosperity by cooperating in is in the end unwilling or unable to I support the efforts of President Bush who the development of a democratic, pluralistic meet these responsibilities, then there has twice used his waiver authority to grant state. will not be peace. That will be a trag- funding directly to the Palestinian Authority (2) Religious and ethnic discrimination has edy for all concerned, but mostly for and who opposes the inflexible language in driven half of Iraq’s indigenous Christians the Palestinians. No one should ask this bill. into diaspora since the 1960s and now threat- Israel to go forward if that is not the Instead of passing one-sided and punitive ens to create a mass exodus, thereby depriv- ing Iraq of one of its oldest and most distinc- case. amendments like this one, it is incumbent upon the United States Congress to try to help tive ethnic communities. That makes it all the more impor- (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.—It is the sense of tant to do everything we can to enable both Prime Minister Sharon and President Congress that— the Palestinian Authority and pressure Abbas confront the extremists on each side (1) all relevant departments and agencies them to do this. The problem is playing who seek to derail the peace process. of the Government of the United States yo-yo with the funding does not work. Fragile as it may be, a flicker of hope and should pay special attention to the welfare The President has the authority now optimism has been kindled in the Middle East. of ChaldoAssyrians and other indigenous to stop. We cannot force him to spend But it may truly be our last hope. Christians in Iraq in order to prevent a mass And what a great tragedy it would be—for exodus that would detrimentally affect the foreign aid. The President will do this Israel, for the Palestinians, and for America— preservation of diversity in the Middle East in consultation with the Israeli govern- if we didn’t do everything in our power to bring and the promotion of general tolerance for ment, with Vice Premier Paris, who an end to this terrible conflict. others; and works on this. Defeat the Berkley amendment. (2) the President, acting through the Ad- I believe this is an unwise intrusion Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I voted ministrator of the United States Agency for of Congress. We do not have a disagree- International Development, should allocate against the Berkley/Crowley amendment to funds specifically for the promotion of the ment here. We say we agree with cap assistance to the Palestinian Authority. Sharon’s government of trying to see if welfare, education, and resettlement of Under the new leadership of President ChaldoAssyrians and other indigenous Chris- peace can be made. We agree with the Mahmoud Abbas, progress is being made— tians in Iraq where they may be currently administration. I do not think that slowly—on the path to democracy and peace. prevented from returning to their homes. this kind of intervention by Congress is It is ironic that these additional restrictions are The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to going to be helpful with a difficult and proposed on Abbas, yet were never applied to House Resolution 365, the gentlewoman delicate peace process. Yasser Arafat. In light of Israel’s impending from California (Ms. ESHOO) and a Ms. BERKLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield withdrawal from Gaza, I believe that we need Member opposed will each control 5 myself the balance of my time. to maintain President Bush’s flexibility to use minutes. The problem the Palestinian Author- United States assistance to promote American The Chair recognizes the gentle- ity has has nothing to do with money. interests in the region. Already, aid to the Pal- woman from California (Ms. ESHOO). They have had millions. As a matter of estinian Authority is the most heavily re- Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Chairman, I yield fact, Arafat has stolen millions and stricted, audited, and projectized assistance in myself such time as I may consume. millions of American taxpayer dollars the world with aid going directly to the Pales- (Ms. ESHOO asked and was given per- over the last several years. tinian Authority only when the President signs mission to revise and extend her re- This amendment denounces and com- a specific waiver. This amendment is one marks.) bats terrorism, works to eliminate ter- more unnecessary restriction that ties the Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Chairman, I rise rorist incitement, and states that the President’s hands to support any movement today to offer this amendment express- Palestinians agree to respect the towards peace and security. ing the sense of Congress that our gov- boundaries and sovereignty of all of its The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). ernment should recognize the unique neighbors and respect human rights. The question is on the amendment of- challenges facing Iraq’s indigenous That is not asking a lot. This Congress fered by the gentlewoman from Nevada Christian communities, including the has a responsibility to ensure that is (Ms. BERKLEY). Chaldeans, Jacobites, Armenians, As- something the Palestinians can do for The question was taken; and the Act- syrians and Greek Orthodox Christians. this money. ing Chairman announced that the noes I am a first generation American of Mrs. CAPPS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong appeared to have it. Assyrian and Armenian descent. My opposition to this amendment. I want to asso- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I de- grandparents fled their ancestral ciate myself with the gentleman from Massa- mand a recorded vote. homeland in the early part of the 20th chusetts (Mr. FRANK) who spoke so eloquently The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to century. In fact, my mother received in opposition on the Floor. clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- her First Communion in Baghdad in At this particular moment, it is clearly in our ceedings on the amendment offered by 1919. I am the only Assyrian American national interests to strengthen the democrat- the gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. serving in Congress today, and one ically elected Abbas government. This is espe- BERKLEY) will be postponed. other did many years ago, the distin- cially true in the face of the imminent Israeli It is now in order to consider amend- guished Adam Benjamin of Indiana. withdrawal from Gaza and because the Pales- ment No. 31 printed in part B of House There are approximately 250,000 As- tinian Authority is up against a strong chal- Report 109–175. syrian Americans in the United States, lenge from Hamas in the upcoming parliamen- It is now in order to consider amend- representing the largest population of tary elections. ment No. 32 printed in part B of House Chaldo-Assyrians outside Iraq. All The amendment states that the United Report 109–175. Chaldo-Assyrians are Christian. Be- States should promote the emergence of a AMENDMENT NO. 32 OFFERED BY MS. ESHOO cause they are, they have been sub- Palestinian government that combats ter- Ms. ESHOO. Mr. Chairman, I offer an jected to persecution in their home- rorism. We all agree with that. But at the same amendment. land. time, we must continue to urge the Israeli gov- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk Today, there are between 1 to 1.5 mil- ernment to stop settlement activity and ease will designate the amendment. lion Christians remaining in Iraq,

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:24 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00034 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.075 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6143 mainly in the Nineveh plain in the IRAQI CHRISTIANS FIND SAFETY IN SYRIA—RE- tional Assembly, and we have 35 schools that north around Mosul. They live in vil- LIGIOUS VIOLENCE PROMPTED MANY TO FLEE teach Syriac.’’ Under Hussein, teaching Syr- lages that can trace their history back HOMELAND iac—the language used by Assyrians and (By Joshua E.S. Phillips) other Iraqi Christians, and one of the Middle over 2,000 years. And a large number, East’s oldest languages—was strictly forbid- DAMASCUS, SYRIA.—Seated in his parish of- because of their geography, have now den. come under the authority of the fice, Father Sarmad Yousef reflected on his ‘‘We have coexisted for thousands of Kurdistan Regional Government. hard choices: to disobey his archbishop by years,’’ Khoshaba said. ‘‘The problem was Among indigenous Iraqi Christians, remaining in Syria or to return to Iraq, the repressive regime, and today we are in a where his name has appeared on a death list. transitionary stage. But one has to stay and the Chaldeans represent the oldest rite ‘‘After the Americans came, I was one of the under Rome. Along with the Assyrians sacrifice something for it.’’ people telling the Iraqi Christians not to There have been many examples of such who worship with the Holy Apostolic leave,’’ he said. ‘‘After the violence started, sacrifice. Catholic Assyrian Church of the East, I stopped telling them that.’’ One Sunday last August, a spate of bomb- they represent the oldest surviving Christians all over Iraq face a similar di- ings that struck five churches in Baghdad Christian population in the world and lemma as relentless violence engulfs the and one in Mosul left 11 dead and scores one, without help during this critical country, some directly targeting them. Stay- wounded. Yousef’s church was spared, but he transition period, that could be on the ing in the midst of the threats is dangerous, said Iraqi Christians increasingly had start- yet leaving means abandoning communities, ed to leave soon after. brink of extinction. church property and a heritage with cen- When Yousef took a previously planned These communities have welcomed turies-old roots. trip to Damascus, he learned his was one of the opportunity before them since the Before the U.S.-led war, roughly 750,000 18 names on a death list. Thirteen of those fall of Saddam Hussein’s regime to Christians lived in Iraq, out of a population people had been killed the previous month. move toward greater prosperity and of 25 million. Most were Chaldean and Assyr- ‘‘I decided not to go back—I felt that I was stability by cooperating in the develop- ian, but there also were Armenian, Jacobite too young to die,’’ said Yousef. He left be- ment of a democratic, pluralistic state. and Greek Orthodox Christians and a small hind friends, family and his parish. The arch- Unfortunately, religious and ethnic number of Protestants. Most of them lived bishop of Baghdad instructed him return to his post, but he stayed in Damascus to fill an tensions as well as discrimination con- either in Baghdad or in northern Iraq around Mosul. opening at St. Therese. tinue to plague these Christian com- Since then, 15,000 to 20,000 Christians have Yousef’s new church, wedged within munities. I continue to receive trou- fled to Syria, according to Christian groups, Danlascus’ Old City of cobblestone streets bling reports from religious leaders in- out of ‘‘about 700,000’’ Iraqis, most of them in and crumbling houses, overflows with wor- dicating that Iraq’s Christian popu- flight from the war, according to the U.N. shipers during Sunday Mass. Of the 2,000 lation is not receiving their fair share high commissioner for refugees. families now connected to St. Therese, 90 Yousef, a 30-year-old Chaldean Catholic percent are recent Iraqi refugees. Just out- of development assistance. Because side the church doors, a group of parish- they are such a small minority, the in- who came here in August 2004, was the parish priest of Baghdad’s St. Pathion Church, with ioners from Yousef’s old Baghdad parish dis- digenous Iraqi Christian population has 800 families under his stewardship. Today, he cussed how their lives have changed. one independently elected Chaldo-As- occupies a simple office in Damascus, deco- ‘‘Life was better—we didn’t have any prob- syrian in the entire Iraqi National As- rated with small portraits of St. Therese, the lems,’’ said Jamila Tama, referring to the sembly, Younadam Kanna, whom I patron saint of his new church, cradling a relative peace between religious sects under have met with and hold in high regard. bouquet of pink roses. Hussein. ‘‘There’s killing, bombing and kid- napping. We have nothing now—even our Within the Kurdistan Regional Govern- He says he actively supported the United States when coalition troops first entered house is sold.’’ ment in northern Iraq, representatives Her son, Bassam Bahnam, was grateful for Baghdad in April 2003 and helped organize from Iraqi Christian communities hold the haven in Syria. ‘‘But I have three boys community meetings on their behalf. Such who worked in Baghdad, and they’re all un- five out of 100 seats. Because the Assyr- support came with grave risks, and he nar- employed now,’’ he said. ian community is so very small, such a rowly missed two drive-by shooting attacks. minority in Iraq with one representa- Bahnam and his family want to return to But when the Abu Ghraib prison scandal Iraq—when the violence ebbs. ‘‘Of course tive in national politics, funding for re- came to light, Yousef says, his view changed. there’s no place like home,’’ said his younger construction, housing and education Nor was he alone. ‘‘Before that, Iraqis loved brother, Hisham Bahnam. But he criticized are parceled out to those who control Americans,’’ said Yousef, his eyes lowered. Christian leaders’ calls to stay in Iraq. the villages and the regions where they ‘‘Directly after that—those photos, that ‘‘They’re asking us to stay, but they’re not reside without sufficient transparency scandal directly destroyed the dignity of giving us any solution,’’ he said. ‘‘Even Iraqis.’’ Christian leaders need an army to protect to ensure the proper parity. Muneeb, an Iraqi Christian parishioner of them whenever they go outside.’’ The visible result of these St. Therese who didn’t reveal his last name misallocations has been the emigration George Abona, a former priest who at- because he said he did not want to attract tended a seminary with Yousef, agrees. of as many as 80,000 Iraqi Christians local attention, said general resentment to- ‘‘When my Christian leaders say, ‘Don’t since the fall of Saddam Hussein’s re- ward the Americans was transferred to Iraqi leave your heritage,’ what are they going gime. The majority of these individ- Christians. ‘‘Americans are Christians,’’ he offer me?’’ he said. ‘‘What will heritage do uals, approximately 50,000, have fled to said, ‘‘so we’re automatically considered to for me and my son?’’ Syria, while others have spread out to be part of them.’’ In Iraq, Abona worked for the United Na- Jordan, the Gulf Emirates and Turkey, Christian-owned liquor stores and beauty tions for seven years, before and during the salons were attacked. While kidnapping has war, and was in its Baghdad compound when all living in desperate circumstances as soared—both for terrorism and financial refugees from their homes. it was bombed in August 2003. He survived, gain—Christians felt particularly targeted but the blast killed his brother, along with This needs to be dealt with. If a fully since they are often associated with success- the top U.N. envoy in Iraq, Sergio Vieira de functioning and sustainable democracy ful businesses and financial support of fami- Mello, and 20 other U.N staffers. is to emerge in Iraq, the basic rights lies living abroad. Then last October, he was kidnapped for 19 and needs of all minority groups must With the rise of Islamic militancy, Muneeb days. He was released after another brother be safeguarded. My amendment seeks said, his sister, a doctor, was ordered to wear paid a $20,000 ransom. Despite all that, he to affirm that commitment by ensur- a veil outside her home—a requirement that said, ‘‘The security issue is not a big issue— didn’t exist, he said, when Saddam Hussein ing that all relevant U.S. Government it’s that I’m not ready to raise my son in an was in power. ‘‘I never thought of leaving extremist Islamic society.’’ agencies and departments pay special Iraq,’’ Muneeb said. ‘‘But as a minority, we Syria has relaxed immigration rules for its attention to the needs of this minority have no support.’’ Arab neighbors. But aside from Palestinians, and ensure that they will continue to Emmanuale Khoshaba, a member of the refugees are not allowed to hold jobs in reside and thrive in their ancestral Assyrian Democratic Movement, who regu- Syria, forcing most Iraqi newcomers to live homeland. larly commutes back and forth to Iraq, is off their savings. Government assistance—es- I urge my colleagues to support this more optimistic. Through his job as the pecially health care—is limited, and the ref- amendment. I want to particularly movement’s Syrian representative, he pro- ugees must return home periodically to get thank Tim Carey of my staff for the moted Iraq’s Jan. 30 elections among absen- their temporary visas renewed. tee voters in Syria. Yousef tries to provide his new community very hard, diligent and closely held sin- ‘‘Don’t see the glass half-empty,’’ said in Syria with food and money for medical cere belief in this issue. Without him, I Khoshaba, who is the organization’s Syrian needs. The main reason he and other Chris- do not think I would be on the floor representative. ‘‘Now, we have rights: We tians have fled Iraq, he said, is ‘‘because we today with this amendment. have our names, we have members of the Na- don’t feel it is our country any more.’’

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00035 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.078 H20JYPT1 H6144 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 ‘‘I have bad memories now,’’ he said of constitutional process. Throughout Chesimard and William Morales, who are re- events since the invasion. ‘‘Most of my history, the Assyrian people have suf- siding in Cuba, and any rewards for their friends were killed there, and we only saw fered greatly in their attempts to ob- capture. cruelty and blood. I don’t think I’ll ever be tain greater freedom and recognition. The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to able to go back.’’ Despite this oppression, the Assyrians House Resolution 365, the gentleman Mr. Chairman, I yield 1 minute to the were central partners in the Iraqi oppo- from New York (Mr. FOSSELLA) and a gentleman from California (Mr. sition movement and paid dearly with Member opposed each will control 5 CARDOZA), who represents a very large the assassination of many of their po- minutes. community of Assyrian Americans in litical leaders under Saddam Hussein’s The Chair recognizes the gentleman his congressional district. regime. from New York (Mr. FOSSELLA). Mr. CARDOZA. Mr. Chairman, I rise We must make certain that ethnic b 1415 in support of the amendment offered by and religious groups who suffered and the gentlewoman from California (Ms. Mr. FOSSELLA. Mr. Chairman, I sacrificed under Saddam Hussein’s re- yield myself such time as I may con- ESHOO) on the situation facing Assyr- gime are afforded human rights guar- sume. ians and other Christians in Iraq. I antees in the permanent constitution. Mr. Chairman, I offer this amend- strongly support her amendment which We must ensure that the political and ment, along with the gentleman from calls for the Bush administration to religious persecution seen under Sad- New York (Mr. KING) as well as the use its diplomatic leverage to ensure dam Hussein’s brutal regime are never gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. that the new Iraqi government respects repeated in that country. MENENDEZ). Very simply, it deals with the rights of all Iraqis, regardless of I urge my colleagues to support the disseminating the truth in Havana, sex or religious affiliation. Eshoo amendment. Cuba. Many have different opinions as Additionally, it calls on the adminis- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- to how this country should deal with tration to allocate USAID funds for the man, I yield myself the balance of my Cuba; and for the record this, in my welfare and resettlement of Assyrians time. opinion, has nothing to do with travel and other Christian groups in Iraq. The Mr. Chairman, we appreciate the con- or trade or some of the more conten- Eshoo amendment is consistent with cern of the gentlewoman from Cali- tious issues that surround our relation- my recent work on this issue, including fornia (Ms. ESHOO) and the gentleman ship with Cuba. In my opinion, this is a letter I sent on July 6 to the Bush ad- from California (Mr. CARDOZA), and for very clear and unequivocal. ministration asking that the rights of their strong statements here. The prob- In Cuba right now, there are fugitives Assyrians and Christians in Iraq be lem of the Chaldo-Assyrians has been from justice. The reality is, for those protected in the new Iraqi Constitu- brought to the attention of the com- who do not know, Cuba is a haven or tion. mittee. The committee has brought sanctuary for cold-blooded killers like Like my colleague, I represent a these concerns to the attention of the Joanne Chesimard, who murdered a po- large Assyrian community in central administration. lice officer in cold blood in New Jersey. California, one of the largest con- I have met with people myself who She now goes by the name of Assata centrations of Assyrian Americans have expressed concerns about this, Shakur, so I am told. She is living anywhere in the United States. and believe that they should not get peacefully in Cuba. The FBI is offering Since the January 2005 elections, short shrift when it comes to U.S. for- a $1 million reward for information many in the community have expressed eign aid and efforts being made in Iraq. leading to the capture of Ms. their deep concerns over the direction The administration has prepared mate- Chesimard. of Iraq’s constitutional process. Name- rials attempting to show it has been William Morales is a bomb maker ly, they are concerned that the new fair and inclusive in its distribution of who was affiliated with the FALN ter- rorist organization that wreaked havoc Iraqi Constitution will subject Iraqis of assistance, but this amendment puts not just in New York but throughout all religious and cultural backgrounds every one of us on guard that we need the country. Victims of the FALN in- to strict Islamic law. to watch this very carefully to make cluded three New York City police offi- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The time of sure that they are not shown the door the gentleman has expired. cers, Detective Anthony Senft, Detec- or in any way denied the kind of assist- tive Richard Pastorella, as well as Offi- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- ance that we are capable of offering man, I ask unanimous consent to claim cer Rocco Pascarella. New York City is and I think we are obligated to provide offering $50,000 for information leading the time in opposition, although I sup- to them. I appreciate the gentle- port the amendment. to the capture of Mr. Morales. woman’s amendment. And those two are not alone. The fact The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- as we know it, while so many are op- jection to the request of the gentleman tion is on the amendment offered by pressed under the communist regime, from New Jersey? the gentlewoman from California (Ms. there are scores of people on the FBI There was no objection. ESHOO). terrorist watch list who live peacefully Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- The amendment was agreed to. in Cuba. man, I yield such time as he may con- The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in What this amendment does, very sim- sume to the gentleman from California order to consider amendment No. 33 ply, is it empowers and encourages the (Mr. CARDOZA). printed in part B of House Report 109– Havana section, the United States In- Mr. CARDOZA. Mr. Chairman, I 175. terests Section, Havana to announce thank the gentleman from New Jersey AMENDMENT NO. 33 OFFERED BY MR. FOSSELLA the names of those fugitives believed (Mr. SMITH) for yielding me this addi- Mr. FOSSELLA. Mr. Chairman, I to be living in Cuba and any rewards tional time. offer an amendment. for their capture. Plain and simple, the As I was saying, the Iraqi Constitu- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk Cuban people should know that these tion, unless we intercede, will subject will designate the amendment. fugitives live among them and they Iraqis of all religious and cultural The text of the amendment is as fol- should know there may be rewards up- backgrounds to strict Islamic law. lows: wards of $1 million of a bounty for the Additionally, I recently met with His Amendment No. 33 offered by Mr. return of these fugitives to be tried in Beatitude Mar Emmanuel III Delly, the FOSSELLA: this country for cold-blooded murders, Chaldean Assyrian Catholic Patriarch, Page 12, after line 9, insert the following for bombings, for hijacking, for air pi- one of the most widely respected reli- new subparagraph: racy, and scores of other crimes. The gious and political leaders in the world, (I) DISSEMINATION OF NAMES OF FUGITIVES people of Cuba should know that. who expressed similar concerns. He and RESIDING IN CUBA.—Of the amounts author- I would hope that everybody would I met for over an hour on this topic. ized to be appropriated under subparagraph (A), an appropriate amount of such funds for support a very simple message of dis- I believe the United States has an ob- each of the fiscal years 2006 and 2007 are au- semination of truth to the Cuban peo- ligation to guarantee the rights of all thorized to be appropriated for the U.S. In- ple and the swift return of those fugi- Iraqis, particularly women and Chris- terests Section, Havana, to disseminate the tives who wreaked havoc on individuals tians, so they are not overlooked in the names of fugitives, such as Joanne and this Nation.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00036 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.038 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6145 Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance and the countless other families whose Amendment No. 34 offered by Mr. FRANKS of my time. quest for justice has been obstructed of Arizona: Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Chairman, I by Castro’s regime. I urge my col- Page 286, strike line 20 and all that follows ask unanimous consent to claim the leagues to support these families in through line 19 on page 287 (section 1019; re- lating to provision of consular and visa serv- time in opposition, although I am not New Jersey and around the country. ices in Pristina, Kosova). opposed to the amendment. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). of my time. Is there objection to the request of the Mr. FOSSELLA. Mr. Chairman, I House Resolution 365, the gentleman gentleman from New Jersey? yield 1 minute to the gentleman from from Arizona (Mr. FRANKS) and the gentleman from California (Mr. LAN- There was no objection. New Jersey (Mr. SMITH). The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- TOS) each will control 5 minutes. tleman from New Jersey (Mr. MENEN- man, I thank the gentleman for yield- The Chair recognizes the gentleman DEZ) is recognized for 5 minutes. ing me this time and for crafting this from Arizona (Mr. FRANKS). Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Chairman, I very important amendment. It is cre- Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Chair- yield myself such time as I may con- ative as an amendment, and it also will man, I yield myself such time as I may sume. get the job done. consume. I rise in strong support of this The U.S. Interests Section, if this In a controversial and sensitive envi- amendment. I want to thank the gen- amendment were to be enacted, will ronment, section 1019 requesting a re- tleman from New York (Mr. FOSSELLA) get the information out that there is a port on consular and visa services is for his leadership on it and the cospon- bounty on the heads of these people not a diplomatic or prudent congres- sorship of the gentleman from New who have committed serious crimes in sional action at this time. York (Mr. KING). the U.S. According to the FBI, 74 U.S. In the hour of future negotiations be- I have, as the ranking Democrat on citizens convicted of felonious crimes tween Belgrade, Pristina, and the the Western Hemisphere Sub- in the U.S. are currently living in Cuba international community on the status committee, been for some time pur- under the protection of the Castro re- of Kosovo, congressional action of this suing fugitives from the American jus- gime. nature will be perceived as one-sided tice system back from Cuba for several Joanne Chesimard was convicted, and and prejudicial. Further, moving to- years. The case of Joanne Chesimard one of those who is living in Cuba. She wards giving authority to the Sec- is, of course, of particular importance was convicted and sentenced to life in retary of State to empower the U.S. to New Jerseyans, but I would venture prison in 1977 for the 1973 execution- Mission in Pristina to render U.S. visas to say to all Americans who believe in style slaying of New Jersey State would be a dangerous precedent to set justice. Trooper Werner Foerster on the New because the United States cannot Thirty-two years ago, Joanne Jersey Turnpike. Witnesses said she render visas within the territory of a Chesimard shot New Jersey State fired two bullets into his head as he lay country without that country’s con- Trooper Werner Foerster in cold blood. on the ground. This is a very common- sent in accordance with the Vienna Castro’s subsequent refusal to return sense approach to try to get the mes- Convention. her to the United States has left the sage out, and hopefully it will empower Therefore, conducting such a ‘‘re- Foerster family not only without a everyday, ordinary Cubans to take ac- port’’ is to ignore Serbia’s role entirely husband and a father but with an open tion to bring these people to justice. and sends the wrong message. Kosovo wound that can only be completely I thank the gentleman for his amend- remains within the territory of Serbia healed when Joanne Chesimard is ment. and Montenegro, and, therefore, citi- brought back to justice. Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Chairman, I zens of Kosovo should go to the appro- Castro has turned Cuba into a safe yield back the balance of my time. priate place to obtain visa and consular haven for American fugitives. There Mr. FOSSELLA. Mr. Chairman, I services, which is not prohibitive and, are many. There is a whole list from yield myself such time as I may con- since it is only a 2-hour bus ride, is cer- the FBI whose crimes have ranged from sume. tainly in keeping with most of the ap- air piracy to possession of explosives to Let me just say I thank the gen- plications that need to be made by murder. These are not benign crimi- tleman from New Jersey (Mr. MENEN- those seeking visas across the world. nals, and they should not be allowed to DEZ), the gentleman from New Jersey The text of section 1019 is itself prej- evade justice any longer. (Mr. SMITH), and all those who encour- udicial, Mr. Chairman. The name of the Ironically, Castro provides these aged support of this amendment. And if province, in international use and the criminals greater liberty than he pro- there is one thing this body can agree official U.S. use, is ‘‘Kosovo,’’ not vides to his own people. These individ- upon, very simply, it is justice. And ‘‘Kosova.’’ The term ‘‘Kosova’’ is a one- uals, convicted in the United States of that is all this would ultimately bring ethnicity-based pronunciation of the horrendous crimes, are allowed to live about, justice for those who lost loved name of the province. It would be high- freely in Cuba while Castro imprisons ones and the belief that the Cuban peo- ly prejudicial for the U.S. Congress to Cuban opposition leaders for nothing ple should be given the truth as it re- refer to Kosovo as ‘‘Kosova,’’ which by more than having a different point of lates to those murderers and fugitives it would recognize and imply that the view. that live among them. province is only Albanian and would ig- Mr. Chairman, this amendment is Mr. FOSSELLA. Mr. Chairman, I nore the minority populations living simple. These fugitives will continue to yield back the balance of my time. there. Albanians would have the same enjoy the lives of freedom and liberty The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- objections to the U.S. Congress refer- as long as Cubans are unaware of their tion is on the amendment offered by ring to Kosovo as ‘‘Kosovo-Metohija.’’ presence or the rewards for their cap- the gentleman from New York (Mr. Mr. Chairman, Congress should not ture. This amendment simply requires FOSSELLA). send the wrong message at the wrong the United States Interests Section in The amendment was agreed to. time, and I urge support for this Havana to publicize the names of these The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in amendment. fugitives and make sure Cubans are order to consider amendment No. 34 Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance aware that there is a reward for help- printed in part B of House Report 109– of my time. ing them to bring these criminals to 175. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield justice. The FBI is currently offering $1 AMENDMENT NO. 34 OFFERED BY MR. FRANKS OF myself such time as I may consume. million for Joanne Chesimard’s cap- ARIZONA Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong opposi- ture. Mr. Chairman, $1 million is a very Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Chair- tion to the Franks amendment. This powerful incentive, but the incentive man, I offer an amendment. amendment strikes an important pro- only works if people know about it. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk vision of our legislation that requires I urge my colleagues to support this will designate the amendment. the Department of State to report to amendment to help bring some meas- The text of the amendment is as fol- Congress on the possibility of offering ure of justice to the Foerster family lows: consular and visa services at the U.S.

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:34 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00037 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.083 H20JYPT1 H6146 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 office in Pristina, Kosova. Although somehow changes existing law is just amendment offered by the gentleman the United States maintains a robustly not true. This body has passed 12 and from Arizona (Mr. FRANKS), because it staffed mission in Pristina, those has now signed into law parts of the underscores the clear and nonambig- Kosovars wishing to visit the United law where it says ‘‘Kosova.’’ uous intent here that we do not want States must travel out of Kosova to re- So I think we should not upset the to prejudge or predetermine the final ceive consular and visa services. apple cart and change the unanimous status with regard to Kosovo. That is Mr. Chairman, this is both inconven- wishes of the Committee on Inter- to be left to the negotiations. ient and expensive for the average national Relations. Even if the State Department makes Kosovar, who is not very wealthy, be- Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Chairman, will a recommendation that it is going to cause many visa applications require the gentleman yield? be left to a status negotiation, I think multiple visits to a consulate outside Mr. ENGEL. I yield to the gentleman the gentleman’s amendment and the of Kosova to places as far off as Skopje, from North Dakota. fact we have had this debate helps to Tirana, and Podgorica: three different Mr. POMEROY. Mr. Chairman, I bring some light to that. This amend- countries and three different capitals. thank the gentleman for yielding to ment would merely facilitate and expe- The State Department says the cur- me. dite those individuals that would like rent layout of the U.S. office in Some things should not be so hard. to get their visas and to come here. Pristina makes it difficult to provide This is about asking for a report about I thank the gentleman for yielding, I adequate security to handle consular consular services in Pristina. An exam- oppose the amendment, and I respect and visa matters there. The authoriza- ple of why this is needed: some refugees the gentleman. tion bill, as written and passed by a from the war in Kosovo have settled in Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Chair- vote of 44 to nothing by the Committee Bismarck. They are very close personal man, I yield myself such time as I may on International Relations, dem- friends of mine. They wanted to have consume. onstrates the importance Congress family come and visit. To get those Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from places on providing consular and visa visas, they could not go to Pristina. New Jersey (Mr. SMITH) really was able services in Pristina and having the They sure did not want to go to Bel- to get to the heart of the purpose of my State Department detail its plans for grade. They ended up going to Mac- amendment, and that is very simply the future. It mandates no changes, but edonia and dealing with the embassy in that the Balkan region is one that is merely requires the Department of Skopje, tremendously difficult, cum- fraught with great historical tragedies, State to report to Congress on the mat- bersome, and burdensome; and what is with enough heartache and hurt to go ter as part of our oversight responsibil- more, it took a couple, three trips. We around for every ethnic group that is ities. do not need to do this to the people in in that area. It certainly is obvious to Nor does it threaten to change the this region. the world that the ethnic and cultural status of Kosova, as some proponents I have got an idea: let us have a re- tensions there are responsible for some of this amendment may believe. In port on whether we could provide these incredible tragedies. fact, the State Department affirms services in Pristina. It is my contention that the process that there are no political or legal ob- b 1430 that takes place there now or is in the stacles to opening a consulate in That is all that the Committee on imminent process of occurring is im- Kosova. International Relations voted on this portant to allow it to go forward in a I urge all of my colleagues to defeat question. It just makes simple sense. I, way that the people on the ground have this needless amendment. for the life of me, cannot understand the greatest control over. My concern Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of the amendment that would strike this is that if the Congress should try to my time to the gentleman from New language. Let us move this forward and impose from the top down prejudicial York (Mr. ENGEL). look at how we can improve the serv- language, that it could only exacerbate Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Chairman, I strong- ices, consular services, we are pro- some of the problems that have caused ly oppose the Franks amendment. The viding to the people in this region. such tensions there that have led to language that was adopted was adopted Mr. ENGEL. Mr. Chairman, I yield such death and suffering already. unanimously by the Committee on myself such time as I may consume. Mr. Chairman, I would suggest that International Relations in a bipartisan Mr. Chairman, I would just add again even though it is true that Kosova has way; and with all due respect to my this language was unanimously passed appeared in our bills a number of times colleague from Arizona, his amend- by the Committee on International Re- in the past, it is in conflict with U.S. ment addresses a problem which does lations with bipartisan support and no policy and with the U.S. official posi- not exist. dissension. It was part of an en bloc tion on Kosovo; and consequently, I do The gentleman from Arizona (Mr. amendment, and it is not controver- not think that the mistakes of the past FRANKS) is trying to strike a reporting sial. With all due respect to the gen- would be a foundation for repeating requirement. This has nothing to do tleman from Arizona, this is not some- them here today. with the financial status of Kosova, thing that should be overturned. Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Chair- Serbia, Montenegro, or anywhere else. The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). man, I yield back the balance of my As the gentleman from California (Mr. The time of the gentleman from Cali- time. LANTOS) said right now, consular and fornia has expired. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- visa services are not offered at the Mr. FRANKS of Arizona. Mr. Chair- tion is on the amendment offered by United States office in Pristina. The man, I yield 1 minute to my good the gentleman from Arizona (Mr. section the Committee on Inter- friend, the gentleman from New Jersey FRANKS). national Relations bipartisanly and (Mr. SMITH), although he is in opposi- The amendment was rejected. unanimously adopted merely asked the tion to this amendment. The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in State Department to submit a report Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- order to consider amendment No. 35 describing the possibility of providing man, I thank the gentleman for his printed in part B of House Report 109– consular and visa services at the courtesy. 175. United States offices in Pristina, Mr. Chairman, I do oppose the It is now in order to consider amend- Kosova to the residents of Kosova. amendment. It is merely an amend- ment No. 36 printed in Part B of House That is all it does. It is very hard for ment authorizing a study to determine Report 109–175. people who live in Pristina and in whether or not the U.S. Office in AMENDMENT NO. 36 OFFERED BY MR. LANTOS Kosova to go to other countries, par- Pristina ought to provide consular Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I offer ticularly old people, to get a visa. And services. There are about 15,000 people an amendment on behalf of the gen- as far as Kosova or Kosovo, there are 12 that make that trip to Skopje every tleman from Texas (Mr. REYES). other provisions, and I have them here, year. It is a burdensome situation for The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is the gen- in United States law that mention them. tleman from California the designee of Kosova with an ‘‘a.’’ So for the gen- But let me also point out there is the gentleman from Texas? tleman from Arizona to say that this some value to this debate in the Mr. LANTOS. Yes.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00038 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.087 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6147 The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk Unfortunately, these efforts have not Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- will designate the amendment. been enough to close the killing fields man, I yield myself such time as I may The text of the amendment is as fol- around this border town. Our own am- consume. lows: bassador to Mexico has declared the Mr. Chairman, first of all, I want to Amendment No. 36 offered by Mr. LANTOS: area to be a public security concern thank the gentleman from Texas (Mr. Page 241, after line 21, add the following and advised United States citizens REYES) for his very compassionate and new section: against traveling there. important amendment. It should be SEC. 947. TRAINING AND ASSISTANCE TO IDEN- The amendment of my friend and col- supported, and the majority on this TIFY UNKNOWN VICTIMS WHO WERE league, the gentleman from Texas (Mr. side of the aisle supports it. ABDUCTED AND MURDERED IN CIU- REYES), the Chair of the Congressional DAD JUAREZ, MEXICO. Since 1993, almost 400 women and Hispanic Caucus Task Force on Inter- girls have been murdered and more (a) STATEMENT OF CONGRESS.—Congress national Relations, is a constructive urges the President and Secretary of State than 70 remain missing in Ciudad to incorporate the investigative and prevent- provision that aims to raise the profile Juarez in Mexico. This commonsense ative efforts of the Government of Mexico in of these tragic cases and provide foren- amendment simply seeks to provide the bilateral agenda between the Govern- sic assistance to our Mexican neigh- congressional authority and funding to ment of Mexico and the Government of the bors. I strongly encourage my col- the Secretary of State to make inde- United States and to continue to express leagues to support this amendment. pendent technical and forensic exper- concern to the Government of Mexico over Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he tise available to the families of these the abductions and murders of young women may consume to my good friend, the since 1993 in the Mexican city of Ciudad young women and girls. gentleman from Texas (Mr. REYES), the The gentleman from Texas (Mr. Juarez. author of the amendment. REYES) represents, as we know, the El (b) TRAINING AND ASSISTANCE.—The Sec- Mr. REYES. Mr. Chairman, I thank retary of State is authorized to provide my good friend for yielding me time, Paso area across the border from this training and assistance to identify unknown area. His amendment extends a helping victims who were murdered in the Mexican and I want to thank both my friend, the gentleman from California (Mr. hand to these grieving families. I want city of Ciudad Juarez through forensic anal- to commend the gentleman for his LANTOS), and the gentleman from Cali- ysis, including DNA testing, conducted by compassion in offering this amend- independent, impartial experts who are sen- fornia (Chairman DREIER) for making sitive to the special needs and concerns of my amendment in order. ment. the victims’ families, as well as efforts to My amendment, as has been very Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- make these services available to any fami- aptly described by our ranking mem- ance of my time. lies who have doubts about the results of ber, seeks to provide support to the Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield prior forensic testing. Mexican Government. This is an area 30 seconds to the gentleman from (c) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.— that is adjoining my district and has, Texas (Mr. REYES). There is authorized to be appropriated to the unfortunately, taken way too many Mr. REYES. Mr. Chairman, I want to Secretary of State $500,000 for fiscal year 2006 thank my colleague for speaking on be- to carry out subsection (b). lives. Women have been abducted, raped and killed; and this is an effort half of the amendment. The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to to get help in several different areas. I would just simply say in closing, House Resolution 365, the gentleman There have been opportunities. Since Mr. Chairman, that I appreciate the op- from California (Mr. LANTOS) and a being in office as a Member of Con- portunity to once again bring this Member opposed each will control 5 gress, I have asked the El Paso Police issue to this House. I think it is the minutes. Department, the Sheriff’s Department, right thing to do, to support an area The Chair recognizes the gentleman and the FBI to provide help in forensic that has been beleaguered by crimi- from California (Mr. LANTOS). analysis, crime scene search and iden- nals. With that, I hope that my col- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield tification, as well as training and in- leagues will support this amendment. myself such time as I may consume. vestigative techniques, all of which Mr. LANTOS. I yield back the bal- Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong sup- have been well received. But we need ance of my time. port of the amendment offered by my that additional pressure from the De- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- distinguished colleague, the gentleman partment of State to provide additional tion is on the amendment offered by from Texas (Mr. REYES). help and additional focus on the issue the gentleman from California (Mr. The Rio Grande, which separates El through the Mexican Government. LANTOS). Paso in Texas from Ciudad Juarez in This is something that is very impor- The amendment was agreed to. Mexico and is often dry, has been filled tant to my constituents as a great con- The Acting CHAIRMAN. It is now in with the tears of countless families cern, because it is happening right order to consider amendment No. 37A who grieve for a lost daughter, sister or across the border from my district. It printed in part B of House Report 109– mother who have fallen prey to a mas- is also of great concern to other Mem- 175. termind of murder and the reckless in- bers of Congress. In fact, I have hosted AMENDMENT NO. 37A OFFERED BY MR. difference of local Mexican law enforce- several congressional delegations that ROHRABACHER ment. have gone there and talked to the vic- Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, Since 1993, over 400 women have been tims and talked to law enforcement of- I offer an amendment. murdered in the border region around ficials and those that have been right The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk El Paso and Ciudad Juarez. In the last at the heart of the investigation in the will designate the amendment. year alone, over 30 women have been area where it has been most impacted. The text of the amendment is as fol- killed. According to Amnesty Inter- So I hope that my colleagues support lows: me on this issue. national, Mr. Chairman, at least 137 of Amendment No. 37A offered by Mr. ROHR- Again, I want to thank the gen- the victims, more than half of whom ABACHER: tleman from California (Chairman were between the ages of 13 and 22, At the end of subtitle B of title XI, add the DREIER) for making this in order and were sexually assaulted prior to being following new section: the chairman and ranking member for murdered. SEC. 1127. CAPTURE, DETENTION, AND INTERRO- their support. GATION OF TERRORISTS AT GUAN- Realizing the deliberate ineptitude of Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- TANAMO BAY, CUBA. local law enforcement under whose ju- man, I ask unanimous consent to take (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- risdiction these cases would normally the time in opposition, even though I lowing: fall, the Mexican Federal Government support the amendment. (1) Usama bin Laden declared war on the has begun to implement measures to The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- United States in 1996. (2) International terrorists, including al prevent these abductions and murders jection to the request of the gentleman in Ciudad Juarez, including by estab- Qaida and its affiliated terrorists, have re- from New Jersey? peatedly attacked the United States and its lishing a commission to coordinate There was no objection. coalition partners throughout the world and Federal and State efforts, crafting a 40- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- have killed and wounded thousands of inno- point plan of action and appointing a tleman from New Jersey is recognized cent United States citizens and citizens from special federal prosecutor. for 5 minutes. these coalition partners.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00039 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.092 H20JYPT1 H6148 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 (3) The United States is exercising its stan and Iraq. The vast majority have abuse or purported to be examples of rights to self-defense and to protect United been released. The U.S. is working with abuse. Most significantly, Guantanamo States citizens both at home and abroad by Iraq and Afghanistan and other govern- is not shrouded in secrecy, as we are waging war alongside its coalition partners ments to have them take control of de- told over and over again. There has against al Qaida and affiliated terrorists. (4) International terrorists continue to tainees from their own countries. been enormous transparency, espe- pose an extraordinary threat to the national Some 800 suspected al Qaeda or cially as compared to any other coun- security and foreign policy of the United Taliban have been sent to Guanta- try in the world which is holding ter- States and its coalition partners. namo; approximately 520 of them re- rorist detainees. (5) International terrorists continue to main. Approximately 235 have been re- The International Committee of the commit and plan terrorist attacks around leased, transferred or are presently in Red Cross has been there. They have 24/ the world against the United States and its other countries; 61 are awaiting release 7 access to the facility, and it is at coalition partners;. or transfer. their discretion. The International (6) In order to protect the United States and its citizens, the United States must So, who is in Guantanamo? Well, cer- Committee of the Red Cross had had a identify terrorists and those individuals who tainly no one under 18 years of age. permanent presence, recently changed support them, disrupt their activities, and That is important. The people who at its choosing, and basically that is eliminate their ability to conduct or support were there are terrorists, terrorist what the report said. attacks against the United States, its citi- trainers, bomb makers, recruiters and We have also had media people go to zens, and its coalition partners. facilitators, terrorist financiers, Guantanamo, including more than 400 (7) Identifying, disrupting, and eliminating Osama bin Laden’s bodyguard, and visits by 1,000 national and inter- terrorist threats against the United States would-be suicide bombers. national journalists. We have had law- requires effective gathering, dissemination, yers for the detainees there, especially and analysis of timely intelligence. And what are we learning from these (8) The collection of information from de- people that are being held in Guanta- in connection with habeas corpus tainees at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, by the namo? The organizational structure of cases. We have had congressional Mem- United States has improved the security of al Qaeda and other terrorist groups; bers, including 17 Senators, 103 Rep- the United States and its coalition partners the extent of terrorist presence in Eu- resentatives, and 129 congressional and is essential in fighting the Global War rope, in the United States and the Mid- staffers. Now, if there was ever a case on Terrorism. dle East; al Qaeda’s pursuit of weapons of openness and transparency in a place (9) The loss of interrogation-derived infor- of mass destruction; methods of re- for holding prisoners, this is it. mation would have a disastrous effect on the cruitment and location centers for re- Additionally, Congress has held at United States’ intelligence collection and least a dozen hearings into this matter. counterterrorism efforts and would con- cruitment; terrorist skills and how stitute a damaging reversal in the Global they use them; both general and spe- Mr. Chairman, our distinguished col- War on Terrorism. cialized operative training; and how le- league, the chairman of the Committee (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.—It is the sense of gitimate financial activities are being on Armed Services, the gentleman Congress that— used to hide terrorist operations. from California (Mr. HUNTER), stated (1) the capture, detention, and interroga- Mr. Chairman, Lieutenant General after touring Gitmo last month that he tion of international terrorists are essential Randall Schmidt recently headed a De- noted that the detainees have gained to the successful prosecution of the Global partment of Defense investigation of an average of five pounds each over the War on Terrorism and to the defense of the last year. They have received first United States, its citizens, and its coalition Guantanamo. General Schmidt’s report partners from future terrorist attacks; described how military interrogators class medical services, averaging four (2) the detention and lawful, humane inter- at Guantanamo broke down Saudi Ara- hospital visits per month, and that 100 rogation by the United States of detainees at bian-born Mohammed al Kahtani, who percent of the detainees have been Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, is essential to the was to be, I might add, the 20th hi- given a written notice of their rights, a defense of the United States and its coalition jacker on September 11. written notice of their right to contest partners and to the successful prosecution of their detention in a U.S. court of law, the Global War on Terrorism; b 1445 as well as instructions on how to ob- (3) the detention facilities and interroga- By the fall, Mr. Kahtani had resisted tain a free lawyer, and about 100 of the tions at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, plays an es- all conventional interrogation tech- sential role in the security of the United detainees have lawyers at this time. States and should not be closed or ended niques, so Secretary Rumsfeld ap- What other country in the world while the United States is waging the Global proved a more aggressive action plan, would be so generous at a time of war, War of Terrorism. although a plan that still did not vio- after seeing our people slaughtered in The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to late the Geneva Convention. New York? House Resolution 365, the gentleman Ultimately, this prisoner started One military analyst, Jed Babbin, re- from California (Mr. ROHRABACHER) and talking, and we learned how al Qaeda, cently toured Gitmo and concluded the a Member opposed each will control 30 led by bin Laden, planned September 11 following: ‘‘The common belief among minutes. and the murder and the slaughter of al- the terrorists, fed by reports appar- The Chair recognizes the gentleman most 3,000 Americans. We learned how ently conveyed to some by their law- from California (Mr. ROHRABACHER). they recruited the terrorists and fi- yers, is that political pressure will Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, nanced their operations, and how they soon result in our having to close I yield myself such time as I may con- entered the United States of America. Gitmo and to let them go. Critics are sume. Mr. Chairman, unfortunately, com- making the interrogators’ job much Mr. Chairman, there is hardly a topic mon sense prevents a greater discus- harder than it already is. Because they, more misunderstood, mischaracterized, sion of the intelligence windfall that the terrorists, are beginning to believe and exploited by America’s enemies was reaped by the questioning of this we will close Gitmo, and many of the than the detention facility adminis- particular prisoner. This case also detainees resist interrogation’’ because tered by the United States military at shows that persistence and skill of our of this belief. Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. soldiers pays off. In short, intelligence To the critics of Guantanamo, I Mr. Chairman, we should be clear gained at Guantanamo has prevented would ask them, where do they suggest that the Guantanamo prison is re- terrorist attacks and saved the lives of that we put these people? What do they served for some of the world’s worst countless Americans and America’s al- suggest we do if we end up closing terrorists. Those there pose a great lies. Gitmo? Where are we going to put threat to our national security. Those Mr. Chairman, no system is perfect, those people we need to interrogate? there were primarily captured on the no group of people is perfect, our coun- Where are we going to put, in this war battlefield in Afghanistan. try is certainly not perfect, our defend- on terror, where are we going to put Here are some specifics that the De- ers are not perfect. But of some 24,000 those we capture? At Gitmo, the people partment of Defense has stated pub- interrogations, of those 24,000 interro- there have done a good job, a fantastic licly regarding Guantanamo. Since gations, again, it is not a perfect sys- job, not a perfect job, and we should September 11, 2001, more than 70,000 de- tem, but only 9 of the 24,000 have been keep it open. It should not be closed, tainees have been captured in Afghani- basically found to have any type of and we should actually congratulate

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00040 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.040 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6149 our people who work there for the fine A second and critical question, Mr. We found that Guantanamo was a job they have done. Chairman, is what type of process safe, secure facility. It is there for the Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance should detainees get and how long can protection of the individuals as well as of my time. they be held without some sort of trial. for intelligence gathering. And our in- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I do not So far, all these questions have been telligence community is doing a tre- oppose the amendment, but I ask unan- addressed by both the executive and ju- mendous job gathering information imous consent to claim the time in op- dicial branches, with very little in- that has continued to keep this Nation position. volvement from the Congress. safe and will continue to keep this Na- The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). For my part, I support the amend- tion safe. Is there objection to the request of the ment, but I believe we need to have se- They have gathered intelligence that gentleman from California? rious and thoughtful debate on how to helped lead to the capture of Saddam There was no objection. deal with all of these facilities. Hussein. They have gathered intel- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield This amendment relates to one as- ligence that has helped break up ter- myself such time as I may consume. In any war, the belligerents have the pect of this issue. Both here and in the rorist cells all around this globe. That right to detain enemy combatants other body, we must begin to make our is important. Why have we not seen an until the conflict has ended. Otherwise, own judgments regarding these issues, attack on American soil since Sep- there would be no way to prevent en- and consider legislation as appropriate tember 11? Because of intelligence that emies from returning to the battle- to address these complicated matters. is being gathered. field. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance I will tell my colleagues, for far too There is, of course, an exactly par- of my time. long we treated terrorism as a law en- allel concern in the war on terrorism. Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, forcement issue. I would recommend to We already know, Mr. Chairman, that a how much time is still available? the body that in my opinion it is not number of individuals released from de- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- just a law enforcement issue. Law en- 1 tention have returned to the battlefield tleman has 22 ⁄2 minutes remaining. forcement is necessary, intelligence is against us. That is a fact. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I ask necessary, defense is necessary if we It is also a fact, however, that the unanimous consent that the gentleman are going to win. war on terrorism is unlike other wars from Oregon (Mr. BLUMENAUER) control Mr. Chairman, while I am here for a that this Nation has faced. It is a the balance of my time. moment, I would like to say thank you struggle against deadly forces of extre- The Acting CHAIRMAN. Is there ob- to the men and women in uniform and mism and nihilism which cannot be jection to the request of the gentleman to the families that are deployed and found in a bounded geographical space from California? serving there. We have had about 10,000 or located at one particular base. And, There was no objection. Americans serve at Guantanamo Bay. as our experiences over the last few Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, They are doing a stellar job. We thank years have demonstrated, our enemy is I yield myself 30 seconds. them for their work under very dif- resourceful, able to adapt to new condi- Mr. Chairman, 12 of those detainees ficult, very difficult situations, and we tions, and the end of the conflict may that were in Guantanamo who were re- are grateful for their commitment to be decades away. leased ended up going back to the bat- the war on terror, and we are grateful In this context, the war on terrorism tlefield in an attempt to kill Ameri- for their commitment to freedom, pre- brings us to new ground. The first ques- cans. Let us keep that in mind when serving freedom in this Nation and tion we have to ask as we deal with in- people start complaining about holding around the globe. dividuals who participate in this global people in Guantanamo in the middle of Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I terrorist conspiracy is, should we treat this conflict. yield myself such time as I may con- them with the propriety to which every Let us know that those people that sume. human being is entitled? The answer to are being held are professional terror- It is an interesting proposition that that question is an unequivocal yes. ists for the most part and were trained we have before us today. Unfortu- There should be no torture, no cruel, to claim that they had been tortured, nately, what is framed in the context inhuman, or degrading treatment, and and they were trained to make out- of this amendment is more a conclu- no humiliation. landish charges against the people who sion rather than something that is In this context, Mr. Chairman, I be- had captured them and against the dealt with in terms of well-reasoned lieve that the U.S. military is dealing United States of America. That is part fact. with a very difficult situation not of of their tactic. Let us not fall for that. Nobody disputes the fact that we their own making and doing a great Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to need intelligence. Nobody disputes the job. I am not aware of a single detainee the gentlewoman from Tennessee (Mrs. fact that we are struggling in a global who has lost his life at Guantanamo. I BLACKBURN), who recently returned war against terror. The question is the am not aware of a single detainee who from a visit to Guantanamo. way in which the facility at Guanta- has lost his life at Guantanamo. Pris- Mrs. BLACKBURN. Mr. Chairman, I namo has been managed, what it rep- oners have been accorded nourishing want to thank the gentleman from resents now, and what it represents in and adequate food, quality medical California (Mr. ROHRABACHER) for his the future. care, access to the Koran, and visits excellent work on this amendment and We have been engaged in this strug- from the International Committee of to join him in saying to the body, yes, gle against terrorism longer than the the Red Cross. And I believe that the indeed, Guantanamo Bay serves a very United States fought World War II. U.S. military has investigated abuses valuable purpose, a strategic purpose whenever they have come up. We need when we talk about the war on terror, b 1500 to keep aggressive oversight, including and the importance, the absolute ne- And there is no end in sight. In 2003 trips by Members of this House, to en- cessity that we have to win this war on we had 205 acts of terror, an all-time sure that this continues. terror. record. In 2004 the number more than Indeed, closing Guantanamo could This is one of those situations where tripled to 651. I think there is a real well have unintended consequences. We losing is not an option. As the gen- question whether the assumption that should recognize that Guantanamo is a tleman was just saying, the detainees, the facility at Guantanamo has actu- safer and more humane facility than all 520 individuals that are there, all ally enhanced American security more the facilities in Afghanistan and in 520 detainees have been found to be a than it has harmed it needs to be ex- many places around the world where terrorist. They have been through not amined. I intend to offer a little more others are being held against their will. zero, not one, not two, not three, but discussion. If we closed Guantanamo, where will four different hearings, and they have Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to the detainees go? We have already seen been found to be terrorists. These are my colleague from California (Mr. tragic incidences where their home people that do not wish us well. They SCHIFF). country has tortured those who have wish evil, and they carry out evil. We Mr. SCHIFF. I thank the gentleman been returned. need to keep them locked up. for yielding and for his courtesy today.

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00041 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.098 H20JYPT1 H6150 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 Mr. Chairman, I want to commend that are not demanding that Congress them by their former leaders who fol- my colleague, the gentleman from act to set limits, not only in the deten- lowed radical Islam. California (Mr. ROHRABACHER), for rais- tion of foreign nationals, but as in the The people who used to be their boss ing the important issue of detention case with Jose Padilla and Hamdi, on and hold authority over them, the rad- and interrogation of terror suspects Americans or those that are lawfully ical Islamist leaders, would cut peo- here on the House floor. I firmly agree residing in this country. ple’s heads off, participate in torture, that the executive must have the au- But I have found a new and powerful not to mention of course send them out thority to capture, detain, and interro- ally in the United States Supreme and send their families out on suicide gate international terrorists to prevent Court. As many know, the district and missions. No, those people that we future attacks and to process and pun- appellate courts have reached con- have captured that are in Guantanamo ish those who have been captured. flicting results about whether the ex- are better off because they are under Over a year ago, I traveled to Guan- ecutive’s power to detain enemy com- our authority rather than those people tanamo Bay with the gentleman from batants and under what conditions they used to work for. North Carolina (Chairman COBLE) and those powers can be used. Justice Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to other Judiciary Committee members. Scalia, in one of his dissenting opin- the gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. We toured the facility and recognized ions, commented, ‘‘I frankly do not SMITH), the chairman of the Human the critical work that our soldiers are know whether the tools are sufficient Rights Subcommittee of the Inter- performing. It was also clear that im- to meet the government’s security national Relations Committee, as well portant intelligence is being derived needs, including the need to obtain in- as the co-chairman of the International from detainee interviews, and our serv- telligence through interrogation. It is Relations Committee. icemembers have done difficult and far beyond my competence or the Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. I thank courageous work guarding some of the Court’s competence to determine that, the gentleman for yielding. most dangerous people in the world. but it is not beyond Congress’s.’’ Mr. Chairman, let me just say to my Nonetheless, Mr. Chairman, there is We could not have, I think, a strong- colleagues, the July 7 attacks in Lon- still a significant issue arising out of er admonition that we need to act in don, I believe, served as a chilling re- our Nation’s policy of detentions at Congress. And I would ask my col- minder of what is at stake in the global Guantanamo, namely, the lack of any leagues to consider legislation rather war against terrorism. We must fight congressional authorization or impri- than the piecemeal decision-making by this war, a war that we never sought, matur upon the policies underlining the courts. Article I, section 8 of the but which has been declared against those detentions. Constitution provides that the Con- our country and against our citizens; Last month I introduced Guanta- gress, and not the President, has the and we must fight in a way so as to namo Detainees Procedures Act of 2005, power to make rules concerning cap- win. legislation that would provide for the tures on land and water, to make all The amendment offered by the gen- swift and deliberate processing and laws necessary and proper for carrying tleman from California (Mr. ROHR- prosecution of detainees in that matter into execution the foregoing powers ABACHER) underscores the resolve to do that meets all the country’s national and all other powers vested in the Con- just that. Since the first prisoners were security needs and establishes due stitution in the Government of the brought to the Naval base at Guanta- process standards. United States, define and punish of- namo Bay, Cuba in January of 2002, Over 500 detainees are currently held fenses against the law of nations and to this base has provided a secure location at Guantanamo Bay, most of them cap- constitute tribunals. for holding terrorists captured on the tured in Afghanistan after the U.S.-led Mr. Chairman, a sense of Congress is battlefield in Afghanistan and from the invasion in 2001. Some detainees have good, but not enough. I urge my col- many other places around the globe been there for more than 3 years with- leagues to examine my proposed legis- where we have obtained custody of sus- out being charged. lation, a proposal that would affirm pected terrorists. It has provided a My legislation would do the fol- the executive’s authority to detain for- place where these people could be kept lowing: first, it would affirm that the eign national terror suspects, but pro- from returning to combat. executive has the power to detain for- vide for the swift and deliberate proc- The gentleman from California (Mr. eign nationals as unlawful combatants. essing and prosecution of detainees in a ROHRABACHER) a moment ago talked Second, it would provide for a timely manner that protects our Nation and about the 12 detainees who were re- hearing before an independent military expresses our commitment to the rule leased and then returned to combat; judicial officer to review the designa- of law. The Guantanamo Detainees two, I understand, in Afghanistan; and tion of enemy combatant. Third, it Procedures Act of 2005 will ensure that at least one that was killed in a fire- would require the government to bring the hallmark of our democracy is not fight. We are talking about terrorists formal charges against detainees or to compromised. who went right back to attempts to repatriate them to their country of ori- Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, kill Americans. gin unless there was substantial likeli- I yield myself 1 minute. Mark Jacobson, a former special assistant hood of torture, unless the Secretary of Mr. Chairman, I think it is important for detainee policy at the Department of De- Defense certifies that additional time for the American people to hold their fense, estimated that as many as 25 of the is needed to continue with the interro- heads up high, not only about the goals 202 released had taken up arms again. gation, that the person still remains a of the war on terror but the way we For example, Mullah Shahzada, a former threat to the United States, and that have conducted it, and especially the Taliban field commander who apparently con- by the bringing of formal charges it way we have handled the prisoners at vinced officials at Guantanamo that he had would curtail the intelligence gath- Guantanamo. sworn off violence, was freed in 2003, and im- ering process. Let us put it this way: the prisoners mediately rejoined the Taliban. He was subse- Finally, it requires the Department in Guantanamo, our prisoners, are bet- quently killed in battle in the summer of 2004 of Defense to put the cases before tri- ter off for being our prisoners. They in Afghanistan. Maulvi Ghafar, a Taliban com- bunals that operate under clear stand- have gained weight. They have medical mander captured in 2001, was released in ards and procedures. Finally, it would attention. They have regular meals, February 2004. He was subsequently killed in require annual reports to Congress on none of which they would have had if a shootout with Afghan government forces in the status of all detainees. they would not have been captured. September 2004. Abdullah Mesud, a Pakistani Recently, I have been heartened by And life in their cell is probably a lot who was captured fighting alongside the the bipartisan calls from Members of better than the cave in which they Taliban in Afghanistan, bragged that he was the Senate upon the Congress to forge used to live. And perhaps as well, we able to hide his true identity for two years at legislation which specifically addresses need to say that the leaders, the people Guantanamo before being released in March the standards and procedures to be fol- who hold power over them at Guanta- 2004. He was considered a low-risk security lowed for military detainees. Frankly, namo are at least directed and guided threat because of his artificial leg. After re- I am surprised there are not more by moral restrictions that are far dif- tuning to Pakistan, Mesud led a group of Is- voices in Congress raising this issue ferent than those restrictions placed on lamic militants—part of a campaign against

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Mesud the gentleman from California, chairs, spect to my colleague, the gentleman is still at large. because I think it is appropriate for us from California (Mr. ROHRABACHER), it Mr. Chairman, Guantanamo is a to understand not just the treatment is not at all clear that what happened place where crucial intelligence could at Guantanamo, but what impact that in Guantanamo makes us safer given be gathered that could help the United has had around the world in terms of the fact that we have seen an explo- States understand the operating meth- perceptions of United States behavior sion, that was a poor choice of words, ods, patterns, financing, tactical skills towards enemy combatants. of terrorist acts around the world, in- and training of these terrorists. This I mentioned that I am deeply, deeply cluding our closest ally, Great Britain, information is critical to preventing concerned about the language that is just this last week. future terrorist attacks and, in the here that asserts that somehow we are This is precisely what we should be long run, critical to developing a stra- better off and more secure as a result doing as a Congress rather than rush- tegic vision for combating this new of Guantanamo. There is nothing, ing to approve a feel-good amendment enemy. nothing that is unique to that location that has not been carefully examined At the same time, Mr. Chairman, and the lawful exercise of interrogation by our oversight committee where those who are held in Guantanamo techniques that is unique to Guanta- there is evidence to the contrary that must be treated, without exception, namo. Where do we put them? We can we may not be safer rather than doing humanely. There must be zero toler- put them in Leavenworth. We have lots something that would look to all the ance for torture or degrading or inhu- of facilities that could be used to se- world as sort of a whitewash of what mane or cruel treatment, and Congress cure the enemy and protect the public. has happened in Guantanamo. And, does have a moral responsibility to en- But I am deeply, deeply concerned most important, where we are going sure that that is the case. And I, like that there is lots of evidence that we from here? many of my colleagues, have gone have fallen short of the mark, and it is I would strongly urge the rejection of down to Guantanamo to see for myself, not just that when you torture and the amendment by my colleague. to provide oversight, to ask the tough abuse people you get information that Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, questions and to try to get answers to is suspect. The reason we reject that I yield myself 1 minute. those questions. behavior as a country is twofold: be- Mr. Chairman, as our chairman of I would point out to my colleagues as sides being morally wrong, it puts the Committee on International Rela- well that in last year’s defense author- Americans at risk. If we are going to tions just noted, it is always of benefit ization bill, Public Law 108–375, this abuse people, and recall that famous to get criminals off of the street and it body unambiguously stated that it is hearing in the other body when ques- is always to our benefit to take people the sense of Congress that, and I quote tions were put to uniform command, who are involved, actively involved in it, ‘‘no detainee shall be subject to tor- ‘‘would you like American soldiers sub- terrorist organizations who have been ture or cruel, inhumane or degrading jected to these techniques?’’ Well, of engaged in suicide bombings, engaged treatment or punishment that is pro- course he would not. That is why we in murdering other people, it is always hibited by the Constitution, laws or set standards to protect American sol- good to get them off the street. And if treaties of the United States.’’ diers and Americans overseas. it is in Guantanamo or anywhere else, Moreover, that law requires the Sec- that makes Guantanamo a very posi- Second, when there are activities retary of Defense to take steps to en- tive factor in keeping us safe. where we fail to meet our high stand- sure that policies are adopted to ensure Twelve of the people who we let go ards, whether at Guantanamo or Abu the humane treatment of detainees and out of the 56 already returned to do Ghraib, they have an incendiary effect. that all DOD commanders have ade- battle to kill Americans. So it might Remember, it was not just a Newsweek quate training regarding the law of war have been better even to keep them in story that sparked the riots in Paki- and Geneva Convention obligations, custody rather than put the Americans stan. We were told, in fact, by people and that standard operating procedures who they were aiming their guns at at there that the story about the Koran regarding detainees be established. more risk. Guantanamo is doing a good being flushed down the toilet was not Mr. Chairman, finally, just let me job. Those people down there, the why the riots occurred. But the point is say that the U.S. must continue to Americans, are doing a good job for us. that there was a perception of Amer- fight this war on terrorism on every They are not perfect but no one is per- ican behavior that made people suscep- front. We must not let complacency fect, but they are making us safer and tible to thinking the worst. That is lead us to lower our guard. We must that is what this is about. I think we why there are a wide number of Repub- fight this war in a way that is con- have no hesitancy whatsoever than to licans, including Senator MARTINEZ, sistent, however, with fundamental proclaim that. principles. Senator GRAHAM, Senator HAGEL, that Mr. Chairman, I yield 4 minutes to And I think the gentleman from Cali- have raised questions about whether or the gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. not Guantanamo has outlived its use- fornia (Mr. ROHRABACHER) has offered GRANGER). us a resolution that tries to make that fulness for us. Ms. GRANGER. Mr. Chairman, I clear. I would suggest, Mr. Chairman, that thank the chairman for his good work Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I when the history of this period of time and I thank the gentleman from Cali- yield myself 51⁄2 minutes. is written, we are going to find out in fornia (Mr. ROHRABACHER) for giving us I appreciate what was just presented the last 4 years that the information the opportunity to vote on this resolu- by my colleague from California (Mr. that came from the press, whether it is tion. SCHIFF), who has offered up a legisla- about prison abuses, about the basis for Approximately 800 suspected mem- tive approach to deal with the frame- rushing to war in Iraq, or the con- bers of al Qaeda or the Taliban have work for Guantanamo, providing pro- sequences of that act, that the press been sent to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. tections and procedures and moving accounts were more accurate than Approximately 520 remain and 61 are forward with dealing with the problems what we were given from the adminis- awaiting release or transfer. Who are of enemy combatants. I find somewhat tration as information and justifica- these people? ironic the continued portrayal on the tion. And, frankly, Congress has been, Well, they are terrorist trainers. part of some that what we have in in the main, missing in action when it They are bomb makers. They are re- Guantanamo now is sort of a Motel 6 comes to getting on top of those sto- cruiters and facilitators. They are ter- with enhanced security and better food ries, rooting out the truth, holding rorist financiers, and they are would-be than our kids get when they go off to people accountable, not low-level suicide bombers. school. guards ill trained and ill suited, and What have we learned from the inter- I wish that the resolution that was looking at patterns of abuse that start- rogations of the detainees? This is before us today were based on some ag- ed in Guantanamo, ended up in Iraq. what we have learned. We have learned

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We have learned the meth- rare opportunity indeed. such a terrible burden, psychologically, ods of recruitment and locations of re- It is unfortunate that it is so rare emotionally and financially, on this cruitment centers. We have learned that we have an opportunity on this country. So this resolution that we about their general and their special- floor in the context of legislation to have here gives us an opportunity to ized operational training. And we have talk about the tragedy in Iraq and the examine these issues, and to examine learned how legitimate financial ac- so-called global war on terrorism. In them carefully, but to examine them in tivities are used to hide terrorist oper- this regard and the context of this the way that they need to be examined. ations. amendment which focuses attention on We need the leadership here in the The question is, is this facility still the activities in Guantanamo Bay and House of Representatives, the chair- needed? Yes, it is still needed because pretends that all of those activities are men of the appropriate committees, to we are still receiving information from upstanding and lawful, and in the lan- begin hearings as to what exactly hap- the detainees at Guantanamo, informa- guage of the amendment ‘‘lawful, hu- pened and why it happened, who gave tion that is shared with our coalition mane interrogation,’’ we find in experi- the orders, under what circumstances partners and with countries around the ence that this interrogation that has were those orders given, to whom were world who are in this fight with us. been carried out as a result of this so- they given, why was this activity of Make no mistake, we are saving lives called war on terrorism has often not persecution and torture which has been because of the information we are ob- been lawful and not been humane. It criticized by the International Com- taining at Guantanamo and that is the has not been lawful in the sense that it mittee on the Red Cross, internally by most important thing. has violated the third Geneva Conven- an independent Army investigation and If anyone doubts the importance of tion. also on numerous occasions by the Fed- this, well, if anyone doubts the war It has not been lawful in the sense eral Bureau of Investigation. against terrorists, go to the Internet that it has violated other aspects of We need to get to the bottom of this. and look at the pictures of September international law, including the United Let us begin to do it. 11 and the bombing of Madrid and the Nations, and it has violated our own Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, bombing of London or look at the faces domestic law frequently. I yield myself 3 minutes. of the families whose innocent children In Guantanamo, and even more so in Mr. Chairman, I think we should note were blown up just days ago as they other places such as Abu Ghraib and that there have been at least a dozen were accepting candy from our troops Camp Cropper and Bagram Air Base congressional hearings into Guanta- in Iraq. where the interrogation carried out has namo itself and there has not been a These are pictures coming from a been unlawful, has been inhumane and lack of attention on the possibilities deep place of hatred and loathing and has brought us terrible, deep disgrace that some of our people were not meet- that hatred is aimed at us. The Guan- in the face of the rest of the world and ing the high standards that we set as a tanamo Bay facility has been visited placed a terrible burden on our country Nation. That is number one. by over a thousand national and inter- and our military people around the Number two, and I think my col- national journalists. It has been visited world. league, and he is my dear friend and by over a hundred Senators and Mem- How did this all happen? We know colleague, should understand that bers of Congress and over a hundred that a significant number of military Guantanamo is not a result, as he sug- congressional staffers. Bipartisan con- personnel, both enlisted and officers, gested, of an unjust and illegal war in gressional delegations have been to have been prosecuted and convicted as Iraq. Almost all the prisoners in Guan- Guantanamo and seen for themselves a result of the inhumane treatment tanamo, unless I am mistaken, are that the treatment is humane and it that has been carried on in these from the Afghan conflict and the con- meets acceptable standards. camps. flict in Afghanistan was thrust upon I absolutely support the Rohrabacher How did it occur? We are led to be- us. The war in Iraq had nothing to do amendment and I urge my colleagues lieve, we are being asked to believe with Guantanamo whatsoever. The to do the same. The capture, the deten- that just a handful of inexperienced, prisoners in Guantanamo are people tion, and the interrogation of inter- rough hewn Americans invented these who have been taken prisoner after national terrorists is essential to win- activities indiscriminately in several serving as part of al Qaeda or the ning this war, a war without borders different places by themselves, that Taliban army in Afghanistan. We did and a war that has no safe haven. this was not done in any concerted not choose to declare war on the Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I way. But the circumstantial evidence Taliban and al Qaeda. They attacked yield myself 30 seconds. I just say it is that we have is quite different. And I us. We were attacked on September 11. a false choice to suggest that the only say circumstantial evidence because Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, will alternative is to keep Guantanamo this Congress has abandoned its re- the gentleman yield? open and operating as it is now. We sponsibility to investigate this matter. Mr. ROHRABACHER. I yield to the could easily prosecute detainees who There have been inadequate hearings gentleman from New York. are at risk or a threat or a problem by this House of Representatives to Mr. HINCHEY. I appreciate the gen- under courts martial. We could close look into this issue to see exactly what tleman’s statements and I understand the prison at Guantanamo and shift AT has been going on. But the circumstan- what he is saying very well. But the operations someplace else like Leaven- tial evidence that we have indicates fact of the matter is that our attention worth. We could abandon the failed in- that these orders for this kind of ill- has been drawn away from the real cir- terrogation policies and conduct them treatment came out of the Secretary of cumstances here. according to the Army Field Manual Defense, transmitted to the Under Sec- We were attacked, yes. The Taliban and get rid of the people who are not at retary for Intelligence, Stephen was harboring the al Qaeda network risk. There are other alternatives. Cambone. He was then sent down to and we went after them in Afghanistan Mr. Chairman, I yield 5 minutes to Guantanamo and gave the information and rightly so. And all but one Member the gentleman from New York (Mr. to Geoffrey Miller. And he then carried of this House supported that activity HINCHEY). it out in Guantanamo and then in on both sides of the aisle. Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, I want Camp Cropper and in other places But then for illegitimate reasons, we to express my appreciation to the gen- throughout the system that has been were forced into this unnecessary and tleman from California (Mr. ROHR- developed as a result of this illegal, un- illegal and unjust war in Iraq which ABACHER) for offering this amendment. just and unnecessary war in Iraq which has taken our attention and our re- I know that he is a man of great sin- has corrupted the focus of our legiti- sources away from the terrorists who

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We nursed that per- that the accommodations have been re- attack by people who generally are op- son back to health, as we should. We built, the training of those soldiers has posed to a very tough and aggressive ought to set the gold standard for pris- been improved, the dining apparently and engaged American foreign policy oner treatment. We nursed this person has improved to the extent that the de- overseas. back to health; we fitted him with a tainees like American food. That is not We can no longer rely on our oceans prosthesis; and then, after evaluations, the issue. The accommodations, wheth- and our noninvolvement in places like we let him go. We put him back in the er they are four star or five star is not Afghanistan where we let the Taliban fight. He has been implicated in the really the issue that we are debating. I have their way and expect that we are death of a Chinese engineer, kidnap- also acknowledge the work of General going to be safe. We are not safe. 9/11 ping of another. He has been indicted Hood and his commitment to the pro- proved that. in the blowing up of a bus with journal- fessionalizing of that staff. When we engage in a war against peo- ists on it, and he has also been indicted I always am reminded of a phrase my ple like these terrorists who have mur- in a hotel bombing. grandmother shared with me, some- dered our people and we capture people, We cannot out-nice our enemies. We what biblical: for those who are failing we have to put them some place. Guan- have to treat them with respect, but to remember the past, they are doomed tanamo has served that purpose, and we have to kill them where we have to. to repeat it. I stand here today to sug- Americans down there have uncovered The mission going on at Guantanamo gest we must not close our eyes on the information that have saved American Bay is done right, and it is in the right concerns many of us have about Guan- lives. That is how we have gotten to spot. We put those prisoners anywhere tanamo Bay, whether or not we happen know what al Qaeda is all about. else in America, and that spot then be- to be opponents of the Iraq war. I am sorry there are times that peo- comes a terrorist target. I would rather And for once I am going to say, for ple feel compelled to criticize Amer- have that terrorist target and those at- the millions of Americans who are ican policy overseas and certainly that tentions aimed at Guantanamo Bay, questioning the rightness of the Iraq should not include Guantanamo, and where our Marines man that wire, war, the rightness of the premise of the that is what this debate is about today. where the Army conducts this detain- Iraq war, we are not going to allow you Mr. Chairman, I yield 3 minutes to ing function and does it well. That is to demonize our patriotism. We are not the gentleman from Texas (Mr. the best spot for it. going to stand here and accept the fact CONAWAY). There is absolutely no reason in my that because we raise constitutional mind we should think about closing questions there is something wrong b 1530 Guantanamo Bay. The whole idea of with our patriotism. There is some- Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I ap- closing it is a red herring. It is meant thing in the fifth amendment that says preciate my good colleague yielding me to distract us from the work we should that you are due liberty and due proc- this time. otherwise be doing. The folks we have ess on the right of life and liberty. I have just come back from Guanta- there are doing it well. They are well There is something to that. namo Bay about 3 weeks ago. In part of led, well trained, and I support my My good friend stood here and said my former life, I served with the 256 good colleague’s amendment. that an amputee that we nursed back MP Company at Fort Hood, Texas. Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I to health was sent back to do harm. That company had, in addition to traf- yield 4 minutes to the gentlewoman None of us who understand the law fic responsibilities at Fort Hood, re- from Texas (Ms. JACKSON-LEE). would in any way concede that we sponsibility for the stockade. Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. should have let him out. But the prob- We have asked our military, through Chairman, I thank the distinguished lem is that we have no system of jus- the civilian leadership, to do two gentleman very much for yielding me tice that allows us to indict, to try and things at Guantanamo Bay: one, keep this time and for his leadership and to convict and to detain. That is what those detainees in a safe and humane passion on this issue. the American people need to under- manner. And we are clearly doing that. I thank my friend, the gentleman stand. We have individuals there that And, two, to conduct interrogations from California (Mr. ROHRABACHER), for have had no process, no opportunity for against standards set by the civilian really giving us the opportunity to the intervention of the courts, no op- leadership of this country to glean have a full flush, if you will, a full dis- portunity for appeal, and no oppor- from these detainees whatever infor- cussion on this matter. It would be cer- tunity for us to convict and try and mation they have left to help us with tainly somewhat untoward to suggest hold. And when I say convict, I mean conducting this war on terror. Both that one would rise to not applaud indict, try, and hold. those missions are being accomplished some of the good works that we find at So the report that just came out and well. Guantanamo Bay, but I think it is im- was just issued that we need to under- We have great leadership there, and portant that we try to turn on the stand, written in the article on July 14, the men and women who are serving lights and get out of the dark tunnel unfortunately, we have not gotten to there. Some 10,000 of our soldiers, sail- on this whole issue of why many of us the source. We are holding young re- ors, and Marines who have circulated want to bring to the attention of the cruits or young Reservists as, if you through, have undergone extensive American people the element of Guan- will, responsible for Abu Ghraib, when training, sensitivity training, which is tanamo Bay that needs to be reformed we know one of the chief designers of a phrase I hate, but training to allow and that we need to be concerned that was Secretary Rumsfeld, who them to be more sensitive to the Arab about. signed the document that allowed them culture. Not to the Islam religion, Let me again add my applause to the to do that kind of interrogating of one which we ought to respect, have re- chairman, the gentleman from Cali- of the 9/11 bombers, if you will. spect for the Koran and the religious fornia (Mr. HUNTER), and the gentle- It is important for the American peo- practices, but the customs of the Arabs woman from California (Mrs. ple to know that all of these people are respected in a way that does us TAUSCHER) for the delegation they led here are not related to 9/11 per se. They honor, because we are going to such to Guantanamo Bay just a few weeks may be Taliban members. They may great extent to accommodate these de- ago, and which I was part of. I was able have been gathered up in a big sweep in tainees. to see over the time the improvements, Afghanistan, young kids who came in We cannot out-nice the meanness and the physical improvements, Mr. Chair- at 17 and now are 21. So there needs to the hatred of our enemies. We just can- man, that in fact resources from the be a process by which we deal with not be so nice to the rest of the world United States through the leadership this.

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Mr. Chairman, gentleman from California (Mr. tions; but we cannot have what is going I yield 1 minute to the gentleman from SCHIFF), outlined in terms of legisla- on in Guantanamo Bay that leads to an North Carolina (Mr. HAYES), a member tion that he has developed that we Abu Ghraib. We must understand that of the Committee on Armed Services, could use to move forward, deal with we are better than that. who has also returned from a visit to what needs to be dealt with, but do it Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, Guantanamo Bay. in a way that is consistent with Amer- how much time do we have remaining? Mr. HAYES. Mr. Chairman, I rise ican values and American principles. The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). today in strong support of this resolu- And, in fact, if people detained thought The gentleman from California (Mr. tion, having recently traveled to Guan- that there was some end in sight rather ROHRABACHER) has 6 minutes remain- tanamo Bay with 16 of our Republican than indefinite detainment, some ex- ing, and the gentleman from Oregon and Democrat colleagues. perts argue we may actually get more (Mr. BLUMENAUER) has 4 minutes re- If people around the world knew how cooperation. maining. well people at Guantanamo Bay are There are alternatives. We can put Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, treating prisoners, they would not fall people, for example, in Leavenworth. I yield 2 minutes to the gentlewoman prey to the accusations that some in We ought to make clear that we are from Florida (Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN), our Chamber are making. They are all playing by our standards, that we are chairman of the Subcommittee on Mid- receiving judicial review. going to play fair, and we are going to dle East and Central Asia of the Com- If anyone has it rough at Guanta- move forward. mittee on International Relations. namo, it is the guards. They are con- I think it would be a very appro- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, stantly harassed and threatened by priate use of our Subcommittee on I thank the gentleman for yielding me some of these terrorists. Prisoners tell Oversight and Investigations, which this time, and I would like to rise in guards, we know where your families the gentleman from California (Mr. strong support of the Rohrabacher are. We know where your wife is, your ROHRABACHER) chairs, to try to find out amendment arguing that our facility in children, and we are going to kill them. what the facts of the situation are; Guantanamo is essential to the defense We were shown an array of handmade whether we are more or less at risk, of the U.S. and our coalition partners. weapons used to injure and to kill the and what lessons we learn from this Mr. Chairman, the Guantanamo Bay guards, if given the chance. They have sorry chapter in the past. facility currently houses some of the tried gouging guards’ eyes out, stick- Our Republican friends have devoted elite of our enemy’s crop in the war ing their hands in their mouths and 140 hours to investigating whether or not the Clintons misused their Christ- against terror, including enemy com- ripping them open. One prisoner tried mas card list, and there were inquiries batants ranging from terrorist trainers to braid a rope with which he could from committees trying to find out and recruiters to bombmakers to strangle a guard. There should be no how they are dealing with letters that would-be suicide bombers and terrorist doubt these prisoners will inflict harm were sent to the Clintons’ cat Socks. I financiers. or death on Americans, given the would suggest that we ought to be able Guantanamo provides a strategic in- chance. terrogation center where these enemy Mr. Chairman, our best defense to find the time and the energy to be combatants can be questioned and against terrorism is to continue intel- able to give the appropriate attention where the results of the interrogations ligence-gathering. The good news is we to these issues that Guantanamo rep- have produced information that has are treating them too well. The better resents, but I think the resolution in saved the lives of U.S. and coalition news is that because we are treating question is not warranted. forces in the field, as well as has them like American men and women in b 1545 thwarted threats posed to innocent ci- uniform, they are giving us the infor- Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of vilians in this country and indeed mation we need. Support the Rohr- my time to the gentleman from Ohio throughout the world. abacher amendment. (Mr. KUCINICH). Through the detainees held at this Mr. BLUMENAUER. Mr. Chairman, I Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, with facility, we have learned about the det- yield myself 3 minutes. all due respect to the gentleman from onation systems used in roadside Mr. Chairman, the operative ele- California (Mr. ROHRABACHER), the au- bombs in Iraq, bombs that have been ments here before us in the resolution thor of the amendment, what protects used by the insurgency to kill our are twofold: one, on the second page of American citizens in this country and troops and innocent Iraqi citizens. De- this amendment, there is paragraph 8 around the world is this country’s ad- tainees include some of Osama bin that says that we have improved the herence to the rule of law and this Laden’s personal bodyguards and one of security of the United States and that country’s abiding by international law. the suspected 20 hijackers in the 9/11 what is going on at Guantanamo is es- Wherever we have seen violations of attacks. sential to fighting the global war on international law if they are endorsed Closing Guantanamo Bay, as some of terrorism. The second operative phrase by the United States, it jeopardizes the our colleagues have suggested, will not is on the very last paragraph, it is es- security of American citizens every- relieve the United States of needing a sential to the security of the United where. I think that is the point of facility to house and interrogate sus- States that we continue operating this those who are challenging this amend- pected terrorists. Should Guantanamo facility until we are through waging ment which would unfortunately seem close, the government would have to the war on terrorism, which I have al- to gloss over the torture that has oc- relocate those functions. Furthermore, ready pointed out we have been fight- curred at various places of detention. given the history of al Qaeda and the ing now longer than World War II. We certainly have a right to secure jihadists, the closure of Guantanamo It is not at all clear that the symbol this country and to make sure that would provide an enormous boost in that Guantanamo has become has actu- American citizens are safe. But the morale to the terrorists and their sup- ally made us more secure. We have peo- only way we can do that effectively is porters. ple like Republican Senator MEL MAR- to make sure that we show respect for Finally, detainees held at Guanta- TINEZ and Republican Senator CHUCK the law and to make sure that we show namo pose a significant threat to HAGEL who recognize both in terms of condemnation, not just of terrorists, Americans, to U.S. allies and civilians the symbol of Guantanamo that has in- but condemnation of torture. in their home countries. There are re- flamed people around the world, and I think this amendment, while I cer- ports of detainees released from Guan- that we have a situation now where tainly respect the dedication of the

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00046 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.114 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6155 gentleman from California (Mr. ROHR- struck a prisoner that happened on In subtitle A of title XI, add at the end the ABACHER) to the American people, I General Hood’s watch. That guard was following new section: think that we need to challenge the un- struck by the prisoner, I believe he SEC. 1111. UNITED STATES COMMITMENT TO derlying assumption, and that is that knocked a tooth out. The guard hit IRAQ. (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- torture should not be tolerated. him with a handheld radio. The guard, lowing: Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, the American, was busted. (1) The men and women of the United I yield myself 30 seconds. The watch word in Guantanamo is States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq are There has never been any proof of honor bound. The troops who guard serving with bravery, distinction, and high torture at all at Guantanamo, period, those people in Guantanamo, who are morale. zippo. Also, let us not hear the com- hijackers, who do include Osama bin (2) The men and women of the United plaint that we have not had enough in- Laden’s bodyguards, who do include States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq need vestigation of Guantanamo. the 20th hijacker, the guy who was des- and deserve the full support of the American Mr. Chairman, 187 Members of Con- people. tined to be on that plane that went (3) The men and women of the United gress and congressional staff have vis- into the ground in Pennsylvania, the States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq are ited Guantanamo just in the last few guy who was forced to listen to rock part of a large, multinational coalition, and months, 11 Senators, 77 Representa- music, that is the torture that the gen- are serving side-by-side with Iraqi national tives, 99 congressional staff members, tleman from New York was alleging to. forces who have been trained by that coali- and there have been 400 media visits, The people who guard those individuals tion. including 1,000 national and inter- who are dangerous are outstanding (4) Coalition and Iraqi forces, Iraqi civil- national journalists have visited there. American soldiers who are in fact ians, foreign diplomats, and individuals from There has been a lot of attention paid around the world who have come to the aid honor bound. of the Iraqi people are under attack from ter- to Guantanamo. We have been trans- I would put Guantanamo up against rorists who deliberately attack children, parent. We can be proud of the job our the prison system of any of the gentle- worshippers, and law enforcement figures, people are doing. That is what this is men who have spoken against this attack civilians at random, sabotage essen- all about today. amendment from their own States. tial services, and otherwise attempt to ter- Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of Guantanamo has a better record with rorize the Iraqi people, the American people, my time to the gentleman from Cali- fewer injuries, better record with no and the citizens of other coalition countries. fornia (Mr. HUNTER), chairman of the deaths, better medical treatment, and (5) The terrorists will be emboldened to ‘‘wait out’’ the United States if a target date Committee on Armed Services. they have a better record for methods Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I have for withdrawal is established and announced, of interrogation, which, incidentally, especially if the terrorists perceive such heard a number of Members who oppose Republican and Democrat Members withdrawal date has been established and an- this amendment talk about the impor- have been allowed to watch over and nounced as a result of their terrorist cam- tance of sending the right message to over. paign against the coalition and the Iraqi peo- the world. We should send the right So the gentleman who could not un- ple. message. We should send the truth. derstand why any hearings are being (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.— It is the sense of Here is the truth, which dozens of held, I suggest you turn on C–SPAN Congress that— (1) given the nature of the adversary the Members know because they have at- and watch them. tended the open and classified briefings United States and its coalition partners face I urge all Members to vote for this in Iraq and the difficult conditions under we have had on Guantanamo. We have amendment. It makes no sense to close which the United States Armed Forces, coa- spent as much time in the Committee down this important prison where we lition forces, and Iraqi forces find them- on Armed Services over the last 3 or 4 put terrorists. selves, calls for an early withdrawal of weeks working on the security of peo- ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE ACTING CHAIRMAN United States and coalition forces are coun- terproductive to security aims of the United ple in Guantanamo as we have working The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. KOLBE). on our own troops in the warfighting States and the hopes of the Iraqi people; and The Chair will remind all persons in (2) such calls for an early withdrawal em- theaters in Afghanistan and Iraq. the gallery that they are here as guests Number one, there has not been a bolden the terrorists and undermine the mo- of the House and that any manifesta- rale of the United States Armed Forces, coa- single death in Guantanamo. There is tion of approval or disapproval of pro- lition forces, and Iraqi forces, and put their not a Member who has argued against ceedings is in violation of the rules of security at risk. this amendment who can say at the the House. (c) POLICY.—It shall be the policy of the same time there has not been a single The question is on the amendment United States— death in their own prison system in the offered by the gentleman from Cali- (1) to pursue a transfer of responsibility for State they come from. Iraqi security to Iraqi forces; and fornia (Mr. ROHRABACHER). (2) not to withdraw prematurely the Everybody in Guantanamo is allowed The question was taken; and the Act- five prayer calls a day. That means we United States Armed Forces from Iraq, but ing Chairman announced that the ayes to do so only when it is clear that United use our loudspeaker system to bring appeared to have it. States national security and foreign policy them to prayer call. We give them 20 Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, goals relating to a free and stable Iraq have minutes of quiet time. We give them I demand a recorded vote. been or are about to be achieved. great meals. We give them a medical The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to system we have looked over very care- clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- House Resolution 365, the gentlewoman fully, Democrats and Republicans, ceedings on the amendment offered by from Florida (Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN) and a which is considered to be as good as the gentleman from California (Mr. Member opposed each will control 30 any HMO system in this country, in ROHRABACHER) will be postponed. minutes. which every detainee gets four check- It is now in order to consider amend- The Chair recognizes the gentle- ups, on average, per month. ment No. 38 printed in Part B of House woman from Florida (Ms. ROS- We have had over 24,000 interroga- Report 109–175. LEHTINEN). tions in Guantanamo, and here are the Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, AMENDMENT NO. 38 OFFERED BY MS. ROS- facts: People have talked about the use LEHTINEN I yield myself such time as I may con- of dogs, the fact that dogs have been Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, sume. present at Guantanamo at various I offer an amendment. Mr. Chairman, I did not arrive at the times, especially with the 20th hi- The Acting CHAIRMAN. The Clerk decision to offer this amendment light- jacker, Mr. al Kahtani, who was sub- will designate the amendment. ly. I discussed it with former staffers ject to the most stressful type of inter- The text of the amendment is as fol- and current interns who have served rogation. There is not one recorded in- lows: recently in both civilian and military stance in any investigation of a dog capacities in Iraq. I discussed the situ- Amendment No. 38 offered by Ms. ROS- ation with my husband, Dexter, a deco- biting a prisoner. LEHTINEN: There are only a couple of recorded In subtitle B of title XI, redesignate sec- rated Vietnam veteran who was wound- instances of a prisoner being struck by tions 1111 through 1126 as sections 1121 ed in combat and awarded a Purple a guard, and the one time when a guard through 1136, respectively. Heart. But it was my talks with my

VerDate jul 14 2003 03:48 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00047 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.117 H20JYPT1 H6156 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 stepson Dougie, a first lieutenant in rights violations, incitement and anti- anny as the ‘‘Greatest Generation’’ did during the U.S. Marine Corps, who is being de- semitism or expressing support for pro- World War II. ployed to Iraq in just 1 week, that had democracy advocates throughout the Our mission is just. It has far-reaching, long- the most profound effect. He helped me world has a tremendous positive im- term, strategic and political ramifications. It is to fully comprehend the importance of pact. In stark contrast, incessant calls helping to further U.S. security and foreign our mission in Iraq and the impact of for an established date for withdrawal policy goals throughout the region. what we say here and do here with the from Iraq has a negative effect. They For these reasons and, most importantly, for impact it has at home and on our diminish the morale of the troops and my stepson Doug Lehtinen, his fiance´e Lind- Armed Forces serving abroad. serve to embolden the enemy. say Nelson, who is also a Marine officer who Mr. Chairman, our mission is just. It Do we want to send a message to the will ship out to Iraq in a week, and all the has far-reaching strategic and political terrorists that their war of attrition is members of the U.S. Armed Forces serving in ramifications. It is helping to further succeeding, that their commitment to Iraq, I am offering this amendment and I ask U.S. security and foreign policy goals violence, to hatred, and to terror is my colleagues to render their full support for throughout the region. For these rea- greater than our commitment to a it. sons, and most importantly for my democratic Iraq, to spreading freedom Simply stated, we cannot afford to yield a stepson, Dougie Lehtinen, his financee, and fighting tyranny? victory to the terrorists in Iraq and throughout Lindsay Nelson, who is also a Marine The amendment before us seeks to the region. officer who will ship out to Iraq also in restate our commitment to the suc- Iraq is one of the epicenters of the U.S. a week, and to all of the members in cessful completion of our mission in comprehensive strategy to combat terrorism our proud U.S. Armed Forces serving in Iraq. It establishes as U.S. policy the worldwide—a strategy that includes: killing and Iraq, I am offering this amendment and pursuit of transfer of responsibility for disrupting terrorists abroad, confronting theo- I ask my colleagues to render their full security to Iraqi forces, but cautions cratic and autocratic regimes that harbor ter- support for it. against withdrawing prematurely, call- rorists and facilitate terrorist attacks, and pro- Iraq is one of the epicenters of the ing for withdrawal to take place when mote economic reform and democracy as a U.S. comprehensive strategy to fight U.S. national security and foreign pol- means to address the grievances of people terrorism worldwide. Our ability to icy goals relating to Iraq have been or throughout the region that have been manipu- project major armed forces to the very are about to be achieved. Is this asking lated and turned against us by the dictatorial heart of the Middle East provides the too much? regimes that permeate the region. United States and our allies in the war Let us not waver on our commitment Our ability to project major armed forces to against terrorism the wherewithal to to our mission in Iraq. The Iraqi people the very heart of the Middle East provides the directly address the tactical and the have not wavered. Our men and women United States and our allies in the war against ideological challenges of Islamic extre- in uniform are not wavering. In fact, terrorism, the wherewithal to directly address mism. this weekend we saw newspaper stories the tactical and ideological challenge of Our presence in Iraq further reporting that soldiers are reenlisting Islamist extremism. strengthens our leverage against cur- at rates ahead of the Army’s targets. Our presence in Iraq further strengthens our rent and emerging threats and it in- Army officials say this is due in part to leverage against current and emerging threats creases the deterrent value of U.S. a renewed sense of purpose in fighting and increases the deterrent value of U.S. power. terrorism. power. Finally, through the promotion of in- Let us demonstrate to our forces that Finally, through the promotion of an incipient cipient Iraqi democracy, we can con- just as our Nation stood behind the Iraqi democracy, we can continue our con- tinue our concerted efforts to counter greatest generation during World War certed effort to counter root causes of Islamist root causes of Islamist extremist and II as they fought against tyranny, so extremism and terrorism in the region. The objective is for the U.S. to proactively terrorism in the region. The terrorists too do we stand behind our forces in engage and support reformers and assist in are fighting for their survival because Iraq, a new great generation of heroes developing within the Middle East a bastion of freedom threatens them. Democratic whose actions will not only help to governments deny terrorists the weap- stable, free-market democratic societies. make the world safer, but will alter the We are engaged in a struggle between ons, the funds and sanctuary they need political landscape towards the irre- moderation and extremism. in order to survive. Democracy denies versible path of freedom and democ- The terrorists are fighting for their survival. them new recruits. racy. Freedom threatens the terrorists. Terrorism mastermind al-Zarqawi I ask my colleagues to support our Terrorist mastermind al Zarqawi acknowl- acknowledged that coalition forces troops. I ask my colleagues to support edged that coalition forces were having suc- were having success and that Iraqi sov- the Iraqi people. I ask my colleagues to cess and that Iraqi sovereignty and democratic ereignty and democratic governance fight the good fight for freedom and for governance would thwart their plans. would thwart their plans. In a Feb- democracy. I ask my colleagues to sup- In this February 17, 2004 letter to al-Qaeda ruary 17, 2004 letter to an al Qaeda op- port this amendment. operatives, al Zarqawi said: ‘‘Our enemy is erative, al-Zarqawi said, ‘‘Our enemy is Mr. Chairman, I did not arrive at the deci- growing stronger day after day . . . By God, growing stronger day by day. By God, sion to offer this amendment lightly. this is suffocation! We will be on the roads this is suffocation. We will be on the I arrived at this decision after listening to a again.’’ roads again.’’ former staffer of mine, who recently returned He further said: ‘‘we are racing time . . . If One of Osama bin Laden’s closest as- from Iraq, and one of my current interns who the government is successful and takes con- sociates wrote in a book published in served with the United States Army in Iraq. trol of the country, we just have to pack up December 2003 that ‘‘democracy is a far I arrived at this decision after discussing the and go somewhere else again, where we can more dangerous threat,’’ adding that it situation in Iraq with my husband, Dexter, a raise the flag again or die . . .’’ makes Muslims refuse to take part in decorated Vietnam veteran who was wounded Democratic governments deny terrorists the jihad. in combat and awarded a Purple Heart. funds, weapons, and sanctuary that they need The continuing presence of U.S. and But it was my talks with my stepson Dougie, to survive. Democracy and freedom deny re- coalition forces must be determined by a first lieutenant in the U.S Marine Corps, that cruits. the achievements of concrete objec- had the most profound effect on me and One of Osama bin Laden’s closest associ- tives, not by arbitrary dates on the cal- helped me fully comprehend the importance of ates wrote in a book published in September endar. Some may argue that my the mission that our men and women in the 2003 that ‘‘a far more dangerous threat’’ is amendment sets the threshold too high armed forces are embarked on in Iraq. ‘‘secularist democracy.’’ by stating that ‘‘calls for an early My stepson, Dougie, is on his way to per- He cautions against democracy’s ‘‘seduc- withdrawal are counterproductive to form his duty in Iraq. tion’’ as it drives Muslims to ‘‘refuse to take security aims of the United States and To him, it is not an obligation. It is an honor part in Jihad.’’ to the hopes of the Iraqi people.’’ and a privilege to have the opportunity to This is a clear illustration of how our efforts However, as we have repeatedly ar- serve his Nation, to contribute to the freedom in Iraq are serving our long-term goals of gued in this Chamber, words matter. of the Iraqi people, to confront the terrorists, spreading democracy as an antidote to extre- What we say here to condemn human and, perhaps, most importantly, to fight tyr- mism and terrorism.

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:34 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00048 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.120 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6157 Success does not come without challenges. Our men and women in uniform are not wa- have struggled and sacrificed for in Creating new and effective political and secu- vering. Iraq. rity institutions in Iraq takes time. In fact, this weekend saw newspaper stories We have committed ourselves to The task before us is not insurmountable, reporting that ‘‘soldiers are re-enlisting at rates Iraq’s freedom from the type of bar- but, if rushed, we do risk failure for lack of ahead of the Army’s targets.’’ barity that was inflicted upon it by persistence. Army officials say that this is due, in part, to Saddam Hussein and that would surely The continuing presence of U.S. and coali- a ‘‘renewed sense of purpose in fighting ter- be inflicted upon it again were the ter- tion forces must be determined by the rorism.’’ rorists to win this war. Our mission in achievement of concrete objectives, not by ar- Let us demonstrate to our forces that, just Iraq will be complete when Iraq is mod- bitrary dates on the calendar. as our nation stood behind the ‘‘Greatest Gen- erately stable and when its troops are The process of, and criteria governing, the eration’’ during World War II as they fought capable of securing their own country. withdrawal of U.S. and Coalition forces from the evil pursuits of a tyrannical ruler, so too do Our word and our credibility as a lead- Iraq must be performance-based, not chrono- we stand behind our forces in Iraq—a new er in this world are on the line. Success logically-based. great generation of heroes—whose actions in in securing stability should determine Some may argue that my amendment sets Iraq will not only help make the world safer in the course of our future actions in Iraq. the threshold too high by stating that ‘‘calls for the long-term, but will alter the political land- That is why I support this measure, early withdrawal of United States and coalition scape toward the irreversible path of freedom and I call on all of my colleagues to forces are counterproductive to security aims and democracy. join me in that support. of the United States and the hopes of the Iraqi I ask my colleagues to support our troops. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance people.’’ I ask my colleagues to support the Iraqi of my time. I respectfully disagree. As we have repeat- people. Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, edly argued in this Chamber and in the Inter- I ask my colleagues to fight the good fight I yield 2 minutes to the distinguished national Relations Committee—words matter. for freedom and democracy. gentleman from California (Mr. What we say in this Chamber through reso- I ask my colleagues to support this amend- HUNTER), the chairman of the Com- lutions condemning human rights violations, ment. mittee on Armed Services. for example, or condemning incitement and Mr. Chairman, I reserve the balance Mr. HUNTER. Mr. Chairman, I thank anti-Semitism, or expressing support for pro- of my time. the gentlewoman for yielding me this democracy advocates throughout the world, Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I claim time to give my two cents’ worth in have a tremendous positive impact. the time in opposition, although I do this debate. These statements and measures serve to not oppose the basic thrust of the First, let me just say that I under- empower those who toil for freedom through- amendment. stand and I think we should all appre- out the world. The Acting CHAIRMAN. The gen- ciate that everyone, folks on both sides In stark contrast, incessant calls for an es- tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS) is of this argument, come at it from the tablished date for withdrawal from Iraq have a recognized for 30 minutes. perspective of what they think is good negative effect. They serve to embolden the Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield for the country. But I think it is abso- enemy and the terrorists. myself such time as I may consume. lutely wrong for the country to set a Do we want to send a message to the ter- Mr. Chairman, as we engage in de- timetable for an exit from Iraq. The rorists that their war of attrition is succeeding? bate over this amendment, let us be timetable and our exit strategy should That we are weakening in our resolve? clear about the terms. We in this Con- be the standing up of the Iraqi forces so That the terrorists’ commitment to violence, gress are all motivated by sincere con- that they can protect this government hatred, and terror is greater than our commit- victions about what best serves the in- that they are putting in place through ment to a democratic Iraq, to spreading free- terest of our great nation, whether we a representative system in which peo- dom, and to combating the forces of evil and oppose or advocate setting a date for ple are allowed to go to the polls, vote tyranny? early withdrawal from Iraq. for their elected leaders, and have Many of our coalition allies in Iraq under- Regardless of where we stand on that those leaders represent them until they stand the importance of completing our mis- issue, there is no justification for im- decide to vote again. sion there—allies such as Poland, the Czech pugning the patriotism of any Member This idea of freedom, of democracy, Republic, Romania, Albania, Bulgaria, Estonia, of this body. which was embraced, I think, with un- Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, and the Mr. Chairman, let me raise one addi- expected exuberance by the Iraqi peo- Ukraine who understand the lessons of history tional preliminary matter which is a ple, is something that we should be and want to take steps to prevent any people source of profound disappointment to very respectful of, and we should also from having to experience the suffering that me. There is no issue more important be respectful of our great men and they endured under German occupation and for this body to debate than Iraq. Nev- women who right now have turned a Soviet communist rule. ertheless, the majority has ruled out of major portion of their purpose, our uni- My colleagues, this amendment does not order several appropriate Democratic formed personnel in Iraq, to the train- question anyone’s patriotism. amendments that are germane to this ing up of the Iraqi forces. There is pur- In fact, the amendment before you is a debate. pose, and the gentlewoman said it well, modified text which includes recommendations there is purpose in our forces, whether b 1600 from my colleagues on the other side of the one is talking to general officers or aisle. In fact, the measure we are about to talking to the troops on the line who This amendment seeks to re-state our com- consider is the only one the majority are working those difficult areas of op- mitment to successful completion of our mis- has ruled in order regarding Iraq. eration like Fallujah and Mosul and sion in Iraq. Let me say this to all of my col- Tikrit and other places. It establishes as U.S. policy the pursuit of a leagues across the political spectrum, We have David Petraeus, one of the transfer of responsibility for Iraqi security to and I say it as a strong supporter of finest officers who ever served this Iraqi forces, and cautions against withdrawing freedom for the Iraqi people: by muz- country, former head of the 101st Air- prematurely, calling for withdrawal to take zling the minority, this body is setting borne, who is in charge of training up place when U.S. national security and foreign an abysmal example of democratic pro- the Iraqi forces. He is doing a good job. policy goals relating to Iraq have been or are cedure, and I deeply regret it. But this timetable is not something we about to be achieved. Mr. Chairman, I am among those who can predict because there are lots of Is this asking too much—considering our oppose setting an arbitrary timetable variables. The variables include the goals are to combat those seeking to export for leaving Iraq. Announcing an early threat. They include the time that it their extremist, terrorist ideologies; those who date of withdrawal before Iraqi forces takes to bring the various pieces of seek to deny the Iraqi people their freedom; are prepared to assume full responsi- this Iraqi defense apparatus into place, those who threaten global peace and security? bility for their country’s security to put those leaders who have to an- Let us not waiver on our commitment to our would allow the enemies of democracy swer to this civil government in place. mission in Iraq. and stability in Iraq simply to wait us All these things mean that we must The Iraqi people have not wavered. out and to reverse all that our troops proceed at pace, but we must proceed

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:29 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00049 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.054 H20JYPT1 H6158 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 at our own pace and the pace of the Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, of that are seen clearly in the fact that Iraqi people. Not an arbitrary time- I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman we have now lost more than 1,760 table. from Wisconsin (Mr. GREEN). American servicemen and -women Please support this amendment. Mr. GREEN of Wisconsin. Mr. Chair- killed, more than 35,000 seriously Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 man, I thank the gentlewoman for wounded. Recent estimates indicate minutes to the distinguished gentle- yielding me this time, and I thank her 25,000 Iraqi civilians killed in Iraq. And woman from California (Ms. LEE), a for this important amendment. the circumstances there become more member of the Committee on Inter- Today, one way or another, we will deeply dangerous and tragic with the national Relations. be sending a very important message passing of every minute. Ms. LEE. Mr. Chairman, I thank the with this amendment. There are some After the attack on the British trans- gentleman for yielding me this time here who will demand that the U.S. set portation system just a short while and for his leadership. a deadline for withdrawal. In my view, ago, the British Royal Institute of Let me just say I rise today of course that would be a dangerously bad idea. International Affairs published this re- in opposition to this amendment. This For one thing, it would send a ter- port on Security, Terrorism and the amendment, quite frankly, would have rible message to our enemy. It would United Kingdom, and I want the Mem- Congress stick its head in the sand and tell our enemy that if they simply wait bers to hear what it says in part: deny the reality that things need to so long to a certain date, the troops ‘‘There is no doubt that the situation change in Iraq. will wind down and they can take over over Iraq has imposed particular dif- once again. For another, it sets an em- First, Mr. Chairman, the Republican ficulties for the United Kingdom and bittering message to our families who leadership is continuing to stifle de- for the wider coalition against ter- have lost loved ones. I am guessing bate on the war in Iraq. Even worse, it rorism. It gave a boost to the al Qaeda that almost every Member here has at- is an effort to marginalize and silence network’s propaganda, recruitment, tended the funeral of a soldier lost in any critics of this administration’s and fundraising; caused a major split in Iraq. I have. And I will never forget the policies in Iraq. This is unacceptable the coalition; provided an ideal tar- one that I went to when I met with the and undemocratic. It is outrageous geting and training area for al Qaeda- family before the service and I said, Is that the Republican leadership has linked terrorists; and deflected re- there anything I can do? and they said, made in order only one amendment on sources and assistance that could have Yes, do not back down and tell the Iraq. Two of the four amendments been deployed to assist the Karzai gov- President not to back down because if dealt with Iraq, which I submitted to ernment and to bring bin Laden to jus- you back down, our son will have died the Committee on Rules. One amend- tice. Riding pillion with a powerful in vain. ment asked for the administration to ally has proved costly in terms of Brit- But perhaps most importantly, forc- present just basically a plan for with- ish and United States military lives, ing a withdrawal deadline sends a dan- drawal and the other making it a pol- Iraqi lives, military expenditure, and gerous message to the Iraqi people. The icy that the United States should not the damage caused to the counter-ter- enemy tells them day after day after have permanent military bases in Iraq. rorism campaign.’’ day that Americans are going to cut Not surprisingly, the Republican lead- That outlines the situation that we and run. At the same time we are tell- ership chose not to allow debate on ei- confront in Iraq. This Congress has a ing them to come forward, to join us, ther of them. What in the world are responsibility to carry out its obliga- to become trained, to become better they afraid of? tions to see this matter and understand educated, to get ready to help democ- what is going on. It has not been done. Secondly, Mr. Chairman, many of the racy stand up. But when we set a dead- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 fundamental assumptions in this line for withdrawal, we play right into minutes to the gentleman from Ohio amendment are just plain wrong. This the hands of the message of our enemy: (Mr. KUCINICH). amendment would have us stay the Why should Iraqis come forward if they Mr. KUCINICH. Mr. Chairman, at a course by ignoring the realities about think that we are going to pull out time when we should have an exit the war in Iraq: realities like the fact once again and pull out early? Those strategy for our troops, this amend- that we were misled into this war; re- who support setting a deadline are ment provides Members of Congress alities like the fact that there were no pulling the rug out from democracy with an exit strategy for themselves, weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; and pulling a rug out from the Iraqis from responsibility for Iraq. realities like the fact that the adminis- who might come forward. tration has no plans on how to end the Please, for the sake of our soldiers, This amendment states that we war; realities like the fact that our their families, and the Iraqis who are should withdraw our troops from Iraq brave troops have become the rallying courageously battling bombs and bul- only when the Iraqi forces are able to point for the insurgency; realities like lets to rebuild their land, do not set a combat the insurgency and only when the fact that our occupation has be- deadline. the government of Iraq is stable, at come a recruiting tool for foreign ter- A previous speaker has said that this peace, and is not a threat to its neigh- rorists; and realities like the fact that administration and this country has no bors. our Nation, our Nation, is less safe as a plan for getting out of Iraq. We do. It We all know that we are light years result of this war. is called victory. And this is the vic- away from both of these requirements. An article in Sunday’s Boston Globe tory-in-Iraq amendment. It is impor- This amendment will keep us in Iraq reported on two studies of foreign tant. forever. fighters streaming into Iraq. The stud- I thank the gentlewoman for it and Furthermore, this amendment is es- ies separately concluded that a major- urge support. sentially flawed because it fails to ad- ity of the foreign fighters are not for- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 dress the correlation between the U.S. eign terrorists, but have become minutes to the distinguished gen- presence in Iraq and utter chaos and radicalized by the war itself. tleman from New York (Mr. HINCHEY). civil war-like state that country is in. And if this is not disturbing enough, Mr. HINCHEY. Mr. Chairman, I The U.S. presence in Iraq is fueling the yesterday’s L.A. Times featured a col- thank the gentleman from California, insurgency and has turned Iraq into a umn that outlined potentially new my good friend and colleague, for his training ground for the insurgents. The partnerships starting up between the leadership and wisdom on these sub- insurgency is growing stronger by the leaders of Iraq and Iran. This emerging jects. day, and attack tactics are becoming relationship has the potential to desta- The circumstances surrounding the more advanced. An article published in bilize the Middle East and even to have invasion and occupation of Iraq are New York Times on June 22 described our worst fears realized. deeply tragic, and that begins with the how Iraqi rebels are refining bomb Mr. Chairman, reports like these are very first instance, the corruption and skills and pushing the GI toll even critical as to why this Congress should falsification of intelligence by this ad- higher. Improvised explosive devices have a free, fair, and honest debate on ministration to attempt to justify that are now sufficiently sophisticated Iraq and we should have it now. attack and now occupation. The results enough to destroy armored Humvees.

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:29 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00050 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.122 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6159 This means our soldiers are more vul- Mr. Speaker, we will finish the job. I the people who have gone through so nerable and casualty rates will go high- urge my colleagues to support this much hardship and turmoil in their er than ever. amendment. life, they cherish America because they In May there were 700 attacks Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am de- understand things and they see things against American forces using impro- lighted to yield 2 minutes to the distin- that we do not see. vised explosive devices, the highest guished gentleman from Washington Sometimes we do not see the freedom number since the invasion in 2003. Fur- (Mr. MCDERMOTT). around us because it is invisible. It is thermore, not only is the insurgency in (Mr. MCDERMOTT asked and was the lack of a guy with his boot in your Iraq becoming stronger, but according given permission to revise and extend face. It is the absence of that that is to a CIA assessment, the insurgency his remarks.) freedom. It is the absence of the censor will also spread to other countries in Mr. MCDERMOTT. Mr. Chairman, the or the bully or the gangster that runs the region. Ros-Lehtinen amendment is a Repub- your local community. That is what b 1615 lican PR stunt that if approved will freedom is, and it takes people some make Iraq more dangerous for U.S. sol- time who have gone through that tur- Another article in the New York diers than it already is, and that is moil to understand that, and I appre- Times has described a new classified very, very dangerous. The President’s ciate the support of the gentleman CIA assessment that the Iraqi war is credibility is a well that is fast running from California (Mr. LANTOS likely to produce a dangerous legacy ) since we dry. by dispersing to other countries this have had that tragedy on 9/11 and been We have the best soldiers and the conflict. According to the assessment, forced into this war on radical Islam. best military commanders in the But we have to remember this: What- Iraq may even prove to be an even world. They do not need an inflam- ever freedom we have, whatever we more effective training ground for Is- matory amendment by a Republican lamic extremists than Afghanistan was cherish here in the United States of Party behaving like armchair generals in al Qaeda’s early days. America, we have because people sac- Mr. Chairman, it is time for us to while the fighting and dying and chaos rifice for it; we have because there face the facts about Iraq. It has been a goes on in Iraq. were people who shed blood, who had disaster. We are there for all the wrong What we need to today is total com- courage and made right decisions years reasons. We are there based on lies. It mitment to our soldiers, not empty ago, whether it was during the Cold is time for us to get out. This legisla- promises, underfunded programs and War, whether it was during World War tion will keep us there. Vote against it. outright deception by the Republican II when we fought the Nazis and the Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, Party. The best way to support U.S. Japanese militarists, or the Cold War I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman soldiers in Iraq is to fully fund and pro- when we fought the Communists. The from Texas (Mr. MCCAUL). vide health care for veterans when they fact is the people had courage and saw Mr. MCCAUL of Texas. Mr. Chair- come home. The best way to support the fight through till the end. Had we man, I rise today in support of the them is to stop pretending that every- backed off in those battles, this world amendment offered by the gentle- thing is going fine. would have been a different place. This woman from Florida (Ms. ROS- Hundreds have died since the Vice would have been a far different place to LEHTINEN), and I would like to thank President categorically denied reality raise our children. her for having the courage under fire to by claiming we were witnessing the Now is not the time for us to back bring forth what should be a non- ‘‘last throes of the insurgency.’’ Re- down. Now is the time for us to reaf- controversial amendment. ality, like body armor, is in short sup- firm to our friend and our foe alike In recent months, certain Members of ply in this administration. that we have the courage to stick it Congress have called upon the Presi- As of today, 126 Members of the out, we have the courage to build a bet- dent to discuss his exit strategy, to democratically elected Iraqi par- ter world for tomorrow with our cour- give the date when the last American liament, that is nearly half of 275, have age and sacrifice today. We are going soldier will leave Iraq. There will come signed a statement calling on the U.S. to raise our children in a better world a day when we will leave Iraq, but, as to leave now. Now. That is what the re- because we are not going to live in a the President stated, ‘‘Our strategy ality is. That is the environment faced world where radical Islam blows up can be summed up this way. As the by our brave soldiers. buildings anymore or beheads people. Iraqis stand up, we will stand down.’’ Our soldiers know that this country America, hold firm. Be courageous. Demanding that we simply put a date believes in them and supports them. Let us build a better world together for on the calendar is not only naive, but Our soldiers do not need the tin sound these things that we cherish. it poses a danger to our troops, a grave of another hollow amendment. They Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am threat to our interests in the Middle need the sound of silence to mark the pleased to yield 2 minutes to my good East and a victory for the terrorists. day when the bombs stop exploding and friend the gentleman from Hawaii (Mr. By signaling to them when we intend the guns stop firing. ABERCROMBIE). to leave, the terrorists can simply wait The best way to support U.S. soldiers (Mr. ABERCROMBIE asked and was it out and then strike the Iraqi people. in Iraq is to get the United Nations or given permission to revise and extend We have had great progress in the NATO in, so that we can begin getting his remarks.) training of Iraqi forces. With the pass- our soldiers out now. Vote no on this Mr. ABERCROMBIE. Mr. Chairman, I ing of every day, Iraq is becoming a amendment that does nothing to save oppose this amendment, because voting more secure and free nation. We must or bring them home. They are counting for the amendment means that you remain steadfast in our determination on us to correct the mistake we made favor the indefinite presence of U.S. to defeat the terrorists and only leave by supporting the President in starting troops in Iraq. It is that simple. Iraq when we have accomplished the this war in the first place. The goals outlined in this amend- job we promised to do. To demand oth- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, ment are so vague that they endorse erwise is a desecration to the memory I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the the permanent U.S. occupation of Iraq, of those who have died for the cause of gentleman from California (Mr. ROHR- which is something the American peo- freedom. ABACHER), the chairman of the Sub- ple do not support. This amendment Tomorrow I will be participating in a committee on Investigation and Over- says that U.S. troops can only with- signing ceremony at the White House sight of the Committee on Inter- draw ‘‘when it is clear that the United with Bill and Janet Norwood, who were national Relations. States national security and foreign recognized by the President of the Mr. ROHRABACHER. Mr. Chairman, policy goals relating to a free and sta- United States at the State of the I rise in strong support of this amend- ble Iraq have been achieved.’’ Union. They lost their son, Byron, in ment. What is ‘‘security at risk?’’ Endlessly Fallujah as he saved seven Marines’ We take so many things for granted sending U.S. troops out on patrols lives. Like all the Bill and Janet Nor- in this country, and people, when you where they become a mobile shooting woods I meet out there, they all say look at the life of the gentleman from gallery for terrorists mocks the word the same thing to me, ‘‘finish the job.’’ California (Mr. LANTOS) and some of ‘‘security.’’

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:29 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00051 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.124 H20JYPT1 H6160 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 Because the administration’s goals (4) The United States initiated combat op- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, for Iraq include creation of an idyllic erations in Iraq on March 19, 2003. I am pleased to yield 2 minutes to the Western style democracy that is stable, (5) Hundreds of thousands of members of gentleman from Texas (Mr. CONAWAY), saying U.S. troops are stuck there the United States Armed Forces have served a member of the Committee on Armed until that happens is the same as say- with honor and distinction in Iraq. (6) More than $200 billion has been appro- Services. ing U.S. troops will have to stay for 50 priated by Congress to fund military oper- Mr. CONAWAY. Mr. Chairman, I years or more. ations and reconstruction in Iraq. thank the gentlewoman for yielding me Once the Iraqis have their constitu- (7) More than 1,700 members of the United time. tion and an election, it will mean our States Armed Forces have been killed and Mr. Chairman, I am 12 days back troops have done everything that they more than 12,000 members of the Armed from a trip to Baghdad. Twelve days can do and that it will be time to bring Forces have been wounded in substantially ago I sat during a briefing with the them home. U.S. troops cannot impose accomplishing the stated purpose of the State Department to assess what was a democracy in Iraq. That is not their United States of giving the people of Iraq a going on in that country. We were as- mission, it is not their job. Only the reasonable opportunity to decide their own sured by the State Department rep- future. resentatives that the drafting of the Iraqis can develop a democracy. (8) The United States military occupation Finally, this amendment is pointless of Iraq has placed significant strains on the constitution, an integral part of set- because it does not address the real capacity of the United States Armed Forces, ting up an Iraqi style government, an questions facing the United States in both active duty and reserve. Iraqi style democracy, was ongoing. At Iraq. When can the United States begin (9) The armed forces of Iraq number more that time they had 15 Sunnis who had to reduce the size of our forces in Iraq? than 76,000 troops as of June 8, 2005, and are joined the negotiations. Two of those We have already said we are leaving, so growing in number and capability daily. Sunnis had since stepped down because our departure is going to have to begin (10) The forces of the Iraqi Interior Min- of threats to themselves and their fam- at some point. istry number more than 92,000 personnel as ilies, but the Sunnis were having input, We have 140,000 troops in Iraq today. of June 8, 2005, and are growing in number which is important that they be in the Do we need to keep that many there and capability daily. (11) The United States has in place a time- deal. until Iraq has been magically trans- table for training, equipping, and employing The State Department folks are rel- formed into the peaceful, idyllic West- Iraqi security forces to take over the atively confident, as confident as they ern democracy that the authors of the counterinsurgency mission from coalition can be in this arena, that the August 15 resolution envision? I think not. forces date will be met, or shortly thereafter; This amendment speaks of commit- (12) The joint explanatory statement ac- that 60 days later a referendum vote ment to Iraq. I would humbly suggest companying the conference report for the will be held on that constitution, and that 1,768 dead U.S. troops, 12,700 Emergency Supplemental Appropriations that the Iraqis for themselves will go wounded U.S. troops, and $250 billion Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, to the polls one more time, as they did represents plenty of commitment. How and Tsunami Relief, 2005 (Public Law 109–13) requires the Secretary of Defense to report so courageously in January, to vote, much more commitment is this war not later than July 10, 2005, and every 90 something we take very much for worth? days thereafter, on measures of security, po- granted many times. As our military leaders in Iraq and litical, and economic progress in Iraq. Sixty days after that, in December, senior administration officials have (13) Congress, under article I, section 8 of national elections will be held, and said, the ultimate defeat of the insur- the Constitution of the United States, must then the Iraqis will have a chance once gents in Iraq will not come about accept its full share of responsibility in mat- again to exercise the freedoms that we through U.S. military action. ters involving the deployment of United in America enjoy. Instead, the mission we have given those States Armed Forces in foreign wars. The violence between now and then commanders is to train the Iraqis so they can SEC. 3. STATEMENT OF POLICY. will increase. In all expectations, the assume the lead in the fight to defeat the in- Congress declares that it is the policy of insurgents see this as a last-gasp op- surgents. the United States— portunity to derail the democratiza- Why bring out American troops? Because (1) to announce, not later than December 31, 2005, a plan for the withdrawal of all tion of Iraq. It is unfortunate that that by keeping our troops in Iraq indefinitely, we’re United States Armed Forces from Iraq; is going to happen, but it is going to. asking them to resolve political and social (2) at the earliest possible date, to turn The high profile, the high publicity issues that need to be resolved by the Iraqis over all military operations in Iraq to the events, the murder of the Egyptian am- themselves. That’s unfair to our troops, their elected Government of Iraq and provide for bassador which occurred while we were families, and the country. It is also unfair to the prompt and orderly withdrawal of all there, the callous, heartless murder of the Iraqi people who will never be able to as- United States Armed Forces from Iraq; and 24 young Iraqi children in an attempt sume control of their destiny while U.S. Armed (3) to initiate such a withdrawal as soon as to kill one American soldier, as regret- Forces occupy Iraq. possible but not later than October 1, 2006. table as that soldier’s death was, those If you are going to join me in voting against SEC. 4. REQUIREMENTS TO IMPLEMENT POLICY. 24 lives were just as precious. this resolution, I urge you to become a co- The President shall implement the policy This violence will continue. We have sponsor of House Joint Resolution 55, which expressed in section 3 by— (1) taking all necessary steps to ensure the to stand strong. We have to understand calls for bringing an end to U.S. military in- completion of Iraq’s political transition to a what their end game is. I support the volvement in Iraq in a responsible manner. constitutionally elected government by De- amendment. It sets out a good plan for H.J. RES. 55 cember 31, 2005, as called for in United Na- how we are going to get out of this. Resolved by the Senate and House of Rep- tions Security Council Resolution 1546 (2004), All of this criticism that we do not resentatives of the United States of America in which was supported by the United States; have a plan to get out, here is a plan. Congress assembled, (2) establishing a plan for the withdrawal It is one that makes sense. To set a SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. of all United States Armed Forces from Iraq fixed date obviously flies in the face of This joint resolution may be cited as the limited only by steps to ensure the safety of ‘‘Withdrawal of United States Armed Forces such Armed Forces; common sense. I stand in support of From Iraq Resolution of 2005—Homeward (3) establishing a plan for a transition of this amendment. Bound’’. responsibility for internal security activities Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am SEC. 2. FINDINGS. to the military forces of the Iraqi Govern- pleased to yield 2 minutes to the dis- Congress finds the following: ment and a transition of United States mili- tinguished gentleman from Massachu- (1) The Authorization for Use of Military tary personnel to an advisory and support setts (Mr. MEEHAN). Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public role; Mr. MEEHAN. Mr. Chairman, I thank Law 107–243; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) was passed (4) accelerating the training and equipping the gentleman, and rise today in oppo- by Congress on October 11, 2002. of the military and security forces of the sition to the Ros-Lehtinen amendment (2) Public Law 107–243 cited Iraq’s posses- Iraqi Government; and because it essentially supports pro- sion of weapons of mass destruction as a pri- (5) taking all appropriate measures to ac- mary reason for the use of United States count for any missing members of the United longing the deployment of the United Armed Forces against Iraq. States Armed Forces or United States citi- States military personnel in Iraq. (3) On January 12, 2005, the President offi- zens in Iraq prior to completion of the with- Our troops deserve clear, concrete cially declared an end to the search for weap- drawal of United States Armed Forces from measures and milestones for defeating ons of mass destruction in Iraq. Iraq. the insurgency, for building up Iraqi

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I have called repeatedly free and fair election and, on January declares that Congress must not ‘‘with- for the Department of Defense to do 31, along with U.S. and international draw prematurely the U.S. Armed just that. assistance, the Iraqis held their land- Forces from Iraq.’’ As a matter of fact, this Congress mark election, their first in 50 years. It Prematurely? How many more Amer- passed a supplemental appropriations was thrilling to witness. Women forced icans have to die or be wounded before bill that required the Department of the men to come out and vote. we recognize that bringing home our Defense to report by July 11 the status As we speak, all elements of Iraqi so- troops is not premature, but is actually of training the Iraqi forces. The Pen- ciety, Shiites, Sunnis, and Kurds are, long overdue? tagon has refused, or has not yet pro- working to draft a constitution and Although I opposed this war from the vided that information. will hold a national referendum on the very beginning, I also thought that be- When is this Congress going to exer- document on October 15. And, in spite cause of the chaos that we had caused cise its responsibility? Our troops have of the threats against them, they are that once we were there, we needed to done everything that we have asked of persevering. stay until Iraq was secure and the them in Iraq. They have acted hero- During our visits to Iraq, we observed Iraqis’ lives were back together. But I ically. They have done their job. Now our troops training the Iraqi security have come to realize that there can be is the time for Washington to do its job forces, their police, their border patrol, no stability in Iraq while our troops and develop a strategy for successful their army. And as President Bush has are still there. It is our very presence completion of this mission. said, as the Iraqis step up, Americans appearing as occupiers and the resent- I do not know where it came, that can step down. That is the plan. Like ment it is breeding that is responsible coming up with an exit strategy some- the other goals we have committed to for the chaos and emboldened insur- gency. how is something that is not in the in Iraq, we will stay our course. Our withdrawal from Iraq will be The Ros-Lehtinen amendment only United States’ interest. I know when made consistent with, as the amend- serves to advance the Bush administra- George Bush was Governor and we were ment states, our foreign policy and na- tion’s current failed policies by keep- in Kosovo, George Bush said, ‘‘Victory tional security goals relating to a free ing the United States military in Iraq means exit strategy, and it is impor- and stable Iraq and, thus, a free and indefinitely. This amendment would tant for the President to explain to us stable world. continue the unsuccessful military oc- what that exit strategy is.’’ Mr. Chairman, Iraqis are making sig- cupation. It would lay the groundwork Having an exit strategy and a strat- nificant progress. I would like to read a for a constant and unending war. egy for success is just as important if short passage from an e-mail my niece Only by ending the occupation can not more important today in Iraq than just received from a soldier who just we hope to quell the violence and give it was in Kosovo. We have made mis- returned after 15 months risking his Iraq back to the Iraqis. We can secure takes in Iraq. The Pentagon did not lis- life for Iraqis and for the national secu- Iraq by helping the Iraqi people, not ten to General Shinseki. We know that rity of the United States. This is what through our military, but through in Iraq the occupation is fueling the in- he said: ‘‘Despite what you might hear international humanitarian efforts to surgency. elsewhere,’’ like in this chamber I rebuild their war torn economic and We have a timetable in effect that might add, ‘‘the tide has turned in the physical infrastructure. was just articulated from the gen- Middle East and democracy is taking It is time for a new direction and tleman from Texas. We are going to hold. There is much work yet to be fresh thinking on this subject, not a have elections, and in January we are done,’’ he continues, ‘‘but we should all continuation of the failed policies of going to have a new government. be excited by the progress made so far. the past 2 years. Instead of the same How long should the United States Just think about it! Government ‘of stagnant ideas repackaged, we need to stay? This Congress ought to exercise the people, by the people, for the peo- end the military occupation of Iraq. We its responsibility, its constitutional re- ple’ has found a foothold in, of all need to support our troops by bringing sponsibility of oversight, and demand places, the Middle East!’’ And, he con- them home. the administration present their strat- tinues, ‘‘Words are hard to come by to I will oppose this amendment, and I egy. express my exuberant hope for the fu- urge my colleagues to do the same. Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, ture of the Iraqi people and the rest of Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, 1 I am pleased to yield 2 ⁄2 minutes to the the Middle East.’’ I yield 2 minutes to the gentleman gentleman from Connecticut (Mr. Mr. Chairman, I could not agree more from South Carolina (Mr. BARRETT). SHAYS). with this soldier’s sentiments. Mr. BARRETT of South Carolina. Mr. SHAYS. Mr. Chairman, I thank As I witnessed Iraq’s election, it is clear the Mr. Chairman, I thank the gentle- the gentlewoman for yielding me time. only real losers are the terrorists and insur- woman for yielding me this time. I have made eight trips to Iraq since gents trying to stop the march of democracy. Mr. Chairman, in recent days and April 2003, and will be going again this In defiance of the terrorists and insurgents, weeks, some have suggested we need a weekend. I have traveled with the mili- Iraqi men, women and children came out in specific timeline or a date that indi- tary and I have also traveled with non- droves. cates when our troops will begin to government organizations outside the There was a tangible sense of pride when withdraw from Iraq. umbrella of the military. I have lit- the Iraqis dipped their index finger in a well of I would like to read an e-mail that erally talked with hundreds of Iraqi ink and cast their vote. one of my staffers received a few weeks citizens, and I know their greatest fear. One voter expressed gratitude to me when ago from a friend currently serving in Iraq. The major says, ‘‘I know there b 1630 he said, ‘‘Like you in the United States, I’m getting to choose my own leaders.’’ are growing doubts, questions, and con- Their greatest fear is, that we will We need to continue the process of sup- cerns by many regarding our presence leave. That is what they have told me. porting this nascent democracy and providing here and how long we are going to stay. They think we will leave them. the new Iraqi government and its people with For what it is worth, the attachment It is vitally important to the future the physical, financial and moral support to se- hopefully tells you why we are trying of peace and prosperity in the Middle cure their nation and ensure liberty thrives. to make a positive difference for the East and, in fact, to the entire world I support the hard work of the International future of this country.’’ that the United States maintain its Relations Committee on the underlying legisla- This is the attachment right here. commitment, meet history’s challenge, tion and the gentlelady’s amendment and urge Mr. Chairman, a picture truly does and assist that nation to stay on the my colleagues to support its adoption. speak a thousand words. course towards stability, democracy Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am He went on to end his e-mail by say- and economic vitality. pleased to yield 2 minutes to the dis- ing, ‘‘I hope to head home in 80 days

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Mr. Chairman, I am he said, ‘‘We must fight terrorism killed, whose children are we talking very pleased to yield 3 minutes to my wherever it exists because terrorism about? Whose father are we talking good friend, the distinguished gen- anywhere threatens democracy every- about? Whose mother, whose daughter tleman from Missouri (Mr. SKELTON), where.’’ are we talking about? It is all right for the ranking member of the Committee Mr. Chairman, any date for with- us to say, there will be more deaths, on Armed Services. drawal would be arbitrary. We must there will be more violence, but I say Mr. SKELTON. Mr. Chairman, I allow our plan to go forward and not to my colleagues, Americans are get- thank my friend from California for abandon it halfway through. It is not ting tired of it. It is their children, and yielding me this time. about their future; it is about our fu- we should not take that lightly. Mr. Chairman, I would like to speak ture. Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, about the gentlewoman’s amendment before us. In doing so, I would like to Let us not talk about an exit strat- I am pleased to yield 11⁄2 minutes to the egy, let us talk about winning, let us gentleman from New Jersey (Mr. speak some common sense about where talk about freedom, let us talk about SMITH), one of our subcommittee chair- we are. Oh, I will vote for it, but if I victory. I urge my colleagues to vote men of the Committee on International were drafting it, I would draft what I for the Ros-Lehtinen amendment. Relations. think is the correct issue before our Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am de- Mr. SMITH of New Jersey. Mr. Chair- country and before our military forces. lighted to yield 2 minutes to the gen- man, every American wants our sol- I have a difficult time in understanding tlewoman from California (Ms. WA- diers, especially those who have loved some phraseology in the amendment TERS), my good friend and distin- ones deployed in Iraq, home as quickly that is before us which calls for an guished colleague. as humanly possible. But I would sub- ‘‘early withdrawal,’’ whatever that Ms. WATERS. Mr. Chairman, I rise in mit to my colleagues that that must be may be. The issue is, when will we have the opposition to this amendment. at a time that ensures that the baton Iraqi security forces fully trained to Americans are getting tired of this of security is passed to a militarily ca- take over the important mission of se- war. Mr. Chairman, we have been mis- pable, free, and democratic Iraq. curity for their own Nation? That is led and we have been lied to. We trust- Let me point out to my colleagues ed the President, and when the Presi- the issue before us. that progress is being made in that re- On June 13, I sent a letter to the Sec- dent came to us after 9/11 and asked for gard. There are currently more than retary of Defense, Secretary Rumsfeld, the authority to find those who had 171,000 trained and equipped Iraqi secu- setting forward the fact that we need committed the attack on our country, rity forces, including 76,000 soldiers, to speed up this process. We need to we all voted for him. 63,400 police and highway patrolmen, make sure that we do all we can and to But since that time, the President and 33,787 Ministry of Interior forces. get our allies, whether they be in the did not go after the perpetrators; the So the previous speaker, I do not know Arab nations adjoining Iraq, or wheth- President did not go after Osama bin where she is getting her numbers, but er they be NATO nations, involved Laden. Instead, he went to Iraq. They they certainly are not correct. more and more in helping to train the went to Iraq because they told us there Iraqi security forces are now capable Iraqi security forces. General David were weapons of mass destruction, and of planning and executing operations Petraeus, one of America’s outstanding now we have discovered there were no at the battalion level and higher, and military leaders of our day, has the weapons of mass destruction. Osama there are a number of instances where mission of training those Iraqi security bin Laden and al Qaeda is still out they have performed superbly. forces and he is working very, very there operating, and we are still in One of the previous speakers, the hard with the training forces that he Iraq. gentlewoman from California (Ms. has. He is a fine officer. He is a great Why are we there? The President WOOLSEY), mentioned that we need to leader. It is a mammoth task. But only came and told us, ‘‘mission accom- be providing money for rehab. We have this year, he has produced slightly over plished.’’ And then we find that our provided $19.1 billion to the Iraq Relief 5,000 fully trained Iraqi soldiers who soldiers are being attacked every day. and Reconstruction Fund. That is a can handle missions on their own. This They are dying, over 1,760; over 15,000 significant commitment. You cannot is totally inadequate. maimed. They have lost their arms and do reconstruction without security. We must do a better job speeding up legs and eyes. Finally, I respectfully submit that this process, because one of two things Another lie. We were told that the any public announcement concerning is going to happen if we do not speed it soldiers had everything that they need- specific timetables or a date certain for up. This is the issue before us. Number ed, and then we find just yesterday in withdrawal of our Armed Forces is one, we are going to lose the American talking with one of the soldiers re- likely to result in significantly people. That, of course, would be disas- turned from Iraq, he has been drinking advantaging the terrorists in a way trous for our effort in Iraq. Number filthy, dirty water; did not even have that will put more lives, more Amer- two, we are going to put such a strain clean water, did not even have bullet- ican lives, more Iraqi lives, at risk, and on the United States Army that some proof vests, and we found that the the mission itself will be put at risk. will term it as broken. Humvees did not have the armor. I would also point out to my col- Mr. Chairman, we are in a race They also told us they were going to leagues that the gentlewoman from against time. We are either going to get the proceeds from the oil that they California (Ms. LEE) did offer an lose the American people’s support, or were going to pump and they were amendment on the withdrawal issue; it we are going to break the Army. This going to pay for rebuilding of the infra- failed 33 to 12 in the committee. So we month, the Army’s recruiting numbers structure. No, that is not happening. did have some consideration of that are far below its goal. It is an unmis- We are spending over $1 billion per during markup. takable trend. Although retention is week, and it goes on and on and on. The Iraqi Prime Minister, when he holding, it is shaking the very founda- But, better yet, in this amendment met with us just a few weeks ago, was tion of the American social structure. they talk about not getting out until passionate: no timetables; it will lead Army marriages have broken up under we train the Iraqi soldiers. How long to the loss of life. the strain of unsustainable operations and when? We were told they had Mr. Chairman, let me finish today’s debate tempo, and the divorce rate is increas- trained over 40,000. Guess what? I say on H.R. 2601 with a boatload of thank yous to ing, signs of sure trouble ahead. to my colleagues, only 5,000 have been our staff who have worked long and hard to So we ought to be discussing how we trained and they do not have a plan for produce this piece of legislation. speed up the process, how we urge our

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It takes no particular and surrender the responsibility of this support this amendment. amount of patriotism or courage for body to hold the administration ac- Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, anyone in this Congress to stand up countable for its actions. I am pleased to yield 11⁄2 minutes to the and wrap themselves in the American Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, gentleman from Indiana (Mr. BURTON), flag and say, stay the course; nor is it it is my real pleasure to yield 5 min- the distinguished chairman of the Sub- patriotic or courageous to be silent or utes to the gentleman from Illinois committee on the Western Hemisphere. indifferent when we believe and when (Mr. HYDE), the distinguished chairman b 1645 we know what is happening is wrong. of the House International Relations It is not our lives on the line. We owe Committee. Mr. BURTON of Indiana. Let me just our troops who are serving with great (Mr. HYDE asked and was given per- say that my colleagues should never courage much better than we are giv- mission to revise and extend his re- lose sight of the fact that we are in a ing them. And to suggest, as this reso- marks.) world war against terrorism. It is not lution does, that those of us who op- Mr. HYDE. Mr. Chairman, you know, unlike the world war that we faced pose this war are somehow in all contentious discussions, there when my good friend was involved in ‘‘emboldening terrorists,’’ is, to say the are a set of imaginary barricades, and World War II. It is a different kind of least, grotesque. people get on one side or on the other. war from the standpoint that it is a Let me state clearly, Mr. Chairman, On one side of the barricades, the hypo- hidden, insidious war; but, neverthe- and for the record, I believe it is time thetical barricades, are people’s main less, it is a world war and we have to for George Bush to end this war. I urge concern of prison welfare. They intro- defeat the terrorists. my colleagues to oppose this amend- duce amendments, they focus their Right now the center of the battle is ment time and attention on the welfare of in Iraq. Al Qaeda, the Taliban, all of Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 the prisoners. their fellow travelers are trying to de- minutes to the gentleman from New On the other side of the barricade are stroy our will in Iraq. And if we back York (Mr. MEEKS), distinguished mem- people who focus on winning the war, down, you may rest assured that we ber of the International Relations who focus on the beheadings that have will rue that day because there will be Committee. happened to decent and good people more attacks and more concentrated Mr. MEEKS of New York. Mr. Chair- from the enemy. They focus on the as- effort on the United States of America. man, let me state outright that I am sassinations, on the car bombings, that George M. Cohan wrote the song opposed to this amendment simply be- indiscriminately kill elderly people ‘‘Over There.’’ Over there, over there, cause we cannot allow our soldiers to and children. And so you have to decide tell them that the Yanks are coming remain under siege for an indefinite pe- what side of the barricade you are on. over there. And that was because we riod of time while Congress has no seri- Now, you can say that is a criticism were going over there to defeat the ous answers from the administration of your patriotism. Not at all. Not at enemy in World War I. about the core challenges we face in all. But you just have to listen to this In World War II, we took the battle Iraq, the progress we have made and/or debate to know the overriding concern to the enemy, Hitler, in Europe. We did a strategy for success. of some is the welfare of the prisoners. not fight them here at home. And I When we invaded Iraq, the adminis- Other people want to win the war. want to tell my colleague, if we do not tration claimed that we would be re- Count me among the latter. defeat the enemy over there, we are ceived as great liberators and that we Another issue that I think is worthy going to have more attacks and more would start withdrawing troops in just of comment, we have heard a couple of concentrated effort by the al Qaeda a few short months. But instead we speakers from the other side, more operatives and other terrorist organi- face a strong insurgency, rising death than a couple, say this information is zations here in the United States of toll with over 1,700 soldiers dead and at corrupt, falsification of intelligence, America. least 13,400 wounded in action. The dis- outright deception by the administra- We backed down in Somalia. We left astrous miscalculations and misleading tion. in Somalia, and it was a green light to estimates that surround this war have I have, in my hand, ‘‘Famous Last al Qaeda, because they said the United exacted a very high toll on the Amer- Words,’’ a compendium of quotations States is a paper tiger; we do not have ican purse and our families. I cannot from famous Democrats and famous the will to win a fight against the ter- agree to any legislation that calls for people about the war that I think rorist organizations and against the us to continue this course while Con- would be worth recalling. The gen- people who want to destroy our way of gress is denied critical information tleman from California (Mr. BERMAN), life. needed to evaluate our progress in Iraq. my good friend, said on October 10, This is a life and death struggle. It is The amendment before us calls for 2002, ‘‘Saddam, with a nuclear weapon, a world war. We must not back down. the transfer of responsibility to Iraqi is too horrifying to contemplate, too We must take the battle to the enemy, forces only when they are ready to as- terrifying to tolerate.’’ and we must have the resolve that is sume such responsibility. However, it The gentlewoman from California necessary to win at all costs. fails to address a plan for improving (Ms. HARMAN) of the Intelligence Com- Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield 2 the training of Iraqi soldiers that will mittee said this, October 9, 2002: ‘‘The minutes to the distinguished gen- enable them to take on that responsi- threat from Iraq is very real, increas- tleman from Massachusetts (Mr. bility. ingly dangerous. Saddam’s belligerent MCGOVERN). How will Iraqi forces ever assume re- intentions and his possession and ongo- Mr. MCGOVERN. Mr. Chairman, I op- sponsibility if we fail to adequately ing development of weapons of mass pose the gentlewoman from Florida’s train them? destruction to fulfill those intentions amendment. This war in Iraq was based Sadly, we have no real answers and make him a clear present danger to the on false or falsified information. This no real strategy for shifting responsi- United States and the world.’’ war was a mistake. It has been mis- bility and reducing U.S. involvement Oh, you should read some of these. managed with incredible incompetence financially and militarily. Here is one from the gentleman from by the Bush administration. Every- Congress has in good faith provided Massachusetts (Mr. MARKEY): ‘‘The thing we have been told about this war this administration with billions of threat that we confront is Saddam has been wrong. It has created even dollars for military efforts in Iraq. This Hussein. Saddam is in a category of his more terrorists in the region. It has body has lived up to its end of the bar- own. No other head of state has been

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The prospect that such a despot to see stopped. nation’s fledgling democracy. has biological and chemical weapons, And the American people want an- Under such a deadline, the best we anthrax, sarin gas, smallpox and is swers from the United States Congress. could hope for is that our enemies nearing nuclear capability is a looming And so I think this debate is too short. would simply go into hiding, wait for threat to millions. We, as a Nation, I wish other amendments could have us to leave, then unleash bloody terror have the responsibility to stop him.’’ been made in order so we can find an on their countrymen until Iraq’s gov- October 10, 2002 CONGRESSIONAL orderly manner to handle this. ernment fell, Iraq’s people were sub- RECORD. I offered a suggestion to put our dued, and Iraq’s hope was destroyed. I have got quotes here from Mad- troops on the border back in 2002, 50,000 In short, such a deadline would do eleine Albright, Sandy Berger, Presi- of them. Saddam was so weak that I nothing less than help our enemies win dent Clinton, all warning of nuclear know he could have toppled. But we did the war. After so many have fought, weaponry, weapons of mass destruc- not go that route. and fought and sacrificed and died, end- tion. Were they corrupt? Were they b 1700 ing decades of Saddam Hussein’s mur- misleading? No, they were basing their derous tyranny, now with freedom se- So we have to find an exit strategy judgment on the best intelligence cured and stability in sight, with hope now for success and to be able to, if available, and they relied on it and it abounding in Iraq and across the Mid- you will, provide an opportunity for turned out to be flawed. But do not ac- dle East, to establish such a deadline, our troops to come home as heroes and cuse people of deception and corruption all but ensuring disaster, would be for the Iraqi people to live in freedom. when it was widespread and well before morally and strategically indefensible. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, how the World Trade Center. It would be an insult, an insult to Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I am much time remains? The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. every soldier who wears on their uni- very pleased to yield 2 minutes to the form the flag of the United States, a GINGREY). The gentleman from Cali- gentlewoman from Texas (Ms. JACK- body blow to the cause of freedom and fornia (Mr. LANTOS) has 2 minutes re- SON-LEE). justice around the world, and a signal (Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas asked maining. The gentlewoman from Flor- to evil men everywhere in the world and was given permission to revise and ida (Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN) has 11⁄2 min- utes. that America’s spine had gone brittle. extend her remarks. A deadline for withdrawal would not Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas. Mr. Mr. LANTOS. Mr. Chairman, I yield amount to mere appeasement, but it Chairman, I would say to the gen- myself the balance of my time. would amount to surrender, betrayal, tleman from California (Mr. LANTOS) Mr. Chairman, I would like to com- that I am very grateful that we have mend the outstanding Republican and and it would amount to an invitation been able to resurrect this debate and Democratic staffs that have done such for more bloodshed on our own soil. It utilize it in the tone that I think is ap- an incredibly good job on a very dif- cannot, cannot, cannot be done. Failure in Iraq, which a premature propriate for the American people and ficult and complicated piece of legisla- withdrawal date would assure, would as well the people in Iraq who are sim- tion. ply seeking peace and opportunity. I want to commend all of my col- be a crucial and possibly a decisive de- As I stand here today, I mourn the leagues who have spoken. This debate feat in the global war on terror. loss of almost 2,000 of our loved ones has been civilized, passionate, articu- Rhetorical attempts to divorce Oper- who bravely took the oath and the late and enlightening. And I particu- ation Iraqi Freedom from the broader willingness to sacrifice their life for larly want to thank my dear friend, the war on terror have failed in no small this country. To the veterans who have distinguished chairman of the Com- part because our enemies make no come home from world wars and other mittee on International Relations, for small distinction. wars and conflicts, we thank you. But guiding the work of the committee and Bin Laden, al-Sadr, Zarqawi, it is appropriate today that we debate for guiding this debate with his states- Fedayeen foot-soldiers, Hamas, this question; and my good friend, the manship and wisdom. Hezbollah, Syrian imports, al Qaeda ex- gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. ROS- Mr. Chairman, I yield back the bal- ports, Taliban holdovers, Ba’athist LEHTINEN), I know has a good intention ance of my time. henchmen, shoe bombers, dirty bomb- of establishing a policy dealing with Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, ers, hijackers in Boston, roadside Iraq. I wish we had done that as the I yield myself such time as I may con- bombers in Baghdad, homicide bombers time came for that war to be launched. sume. in Madrid, suicide bombers in London, I believe it is appropriate to reinforce Mr. Chairman, I echo the sentiments and, yes, inmates in Guantanamo. the fact that we are standing here all of my good friend from California (Mr. They are all the same. They are all as patriots who love this Nation and LANTOS) in praising the strong bipar- the same, Mr. Chairman. They are one would defend her. But the Iraqi people tisan show of support for our Armed enemy, terrorism, serving one cause, deserve our debate today, and they de- Forces in this debate, and I thank the tyranny, against one target, freedom. serve it because we need to know we chairman for his great leadership and Mr. Chairman, our soldiers in Iraq, can do better. guidance throughout the years. Afghanistan and around the world are A limitation on transferring power, Mr. Chairman, I yield the balance of not fighting for a grotesque mistake. in fact, is something that we should be my time to the gentleman from Texas They are fighting for a noble cause. concerned about. If we have a goal, a (Mr. DELAY), the distinguished major- They are not Nazis or Soviets. They time certain, which many of us believe ity leader and a staunch defender of are heroes. The war in Iraq is not over. is the appropriate way to go, you then human rights and a supporter of our It is just not being fought on tele- can move the Iraqi nationals and the fighting men and women who wear the vision. And our decision to join the war Iraqi Armed Forces toward a goal. We proud uniform of the United States and on terror, which waged for years before will not have the consternation of won- our coalition partners. 9/11, has not made the war more dan- dering whether the presence of the Mr. DELAY. Mr. Chairman, I thank gerous but more hopeful for future United States military, even though we the gentlewoman for yielding me time. peace. know terrorists exist, continue to agi- I really appreciate her bringing this Our enemies brook no confusion tate because of their presence, even very, very important amendment to about their goal, it is to kill every last though they are there to help. the floor. one of us. The only thing standing be- It is important to realize that Mem- As has been said earlier, this is a tween us and that fate is the courage bers who want a time certain are no very important debate that we are hav- and determination and commitment of

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:29 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00056 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.135 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6165 our soldiers, sailors, airmen and Ma- now resume on those amendments on Jenkins Miller (NC) Schwarz (MI) rines. which further proceedings were post- Jindal Miller, Gary Scott (GA) Johnson (CT) Moore (KS) Scott (VA) Members and political leaders from poned, in the following order: amend- Johnson (IL) Moran (KS) Sensenbrenner both parties would do well to remem- ment No. 30 offered by the gentle- Johnson, Sam Murphy Sessions ber that in times like these words have woman from Nevada (Ms. BERKLEY); Jones (OH) Musgrave Shadegg consequences. Consider the soldiers amendment No. 37A offered by the gen- Keller Myrick Shaw Kelly Nadler Shays now under enemy threat in Iraq. Con- tleman from California (Mr. ROHR- Kennedy (MN) Napolitano Sherman sider the victims of 9/11 and their fami- ABACHER); amendment No. 38 offered by Kennedy (RI) Neal (MA) Shimkus lies. Consider the Iraqi people on Janu- the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Kind Neugebauer Shuster King (NY) Ney Simmons ary 30 raising their ink-dyed fingers, ROS-LEHTINEN). Kingston Northup Simpson voting after holding their polling lines The first electronic vote will be con- Kirk Norwood Skelton against the threat of terrorist attack. ducted as a 15-minute vote. Remaining Kline Nunes Smith (NJ) Consider the Iraqi women who no electronic votes will be conducted as 5- Kuhl (NY) Nussle Smith (TX) Langevin Ortiz longer fear the rape rooms, the Afghan Sodrel minute votes. Lantos Osborne Souder men who can speak their minds freely, AMENDMENT NO. 30 OFFERED BY MS. BERKLEY Larsen (WA) Otter Spratt Larson (CT) Owens and the children who can learn math The Acting CHAIRMAN. The pending Stearns and literature and history outside the Latham Oxley Strickland business is the demand for a recorded LaTourette Pallone control of their Orwellian regimes. Stupak vote on the amendment offered by the Leach Pearce Sullivan We are at war whether we like it or Levin Pence gentlewoman from Nevada (Ms. BERK- Sweeney not, whether we fight it or not. Our en- Lewis (CA) Peterson (MN) LEY) on which further proceedings were Tancredo emies will keep coming. We cannot de- Lewis (GA) Peterson (PA) Tanner postponed and on which the noes pre- Lewis (KY) Petri feat them solely with our weapons, Mr. Taylor (MS) vailed by voice vote. Linder Pickering Taylor (NC) Chairman. We must defeat them with Lipinski Pitts Terry The Clerk will redesignate the LoBiondo Platts our will. Words and deeds here at home Thomas amendment. Lucas Poe Thompson (CA) and in particular here in Washington Lungren, Daniel Pombo The Clerk redesignated the amend- Thornberry that embolden any of our enemies em- E. Pomeroy ment. Tiberi Mack Porter bolden all of them, and by doing so un- Towns RECORDED VOTE Maloney Price (GA) dermine our cause, weaken our resolve Udall (CO) The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Manzullo Pryce (OH) and threaten our troops. Marchant Putnam Udall (NM) Iraq is the war on terror. Victory in vote has been demanded. Markey Radanovich Upton A recorded vote was ordered. Marshall Ramstad Van Hollen Iraq is a victory for hope. Defeat in Vela´ zquez The vote was taken by electronic de- Matheson Rangel Iraq is a victory for chaos and violence McCarthy Regula Walden (OR) and evil. The terrorists know it, the vice, and there were—ayes 330, noes 100, McCaul (TX) Rehberg Walsh Iraqis know it, and deep down even the not voting 3, as follows: McCotter Reichert Wamp Wasserman most partisan critics of our Com- [Roll No. 395] McHenry Renzi McHugh Reyes Schultz mander in Chief know it, too. AYES—330 McIntyre Reynolds Watson Waxman That is why we must stand and we Aderholt Carter Fitzpatrick (PA) McKeon Rogers (AL) Weiner must fight as we have for almost 4 Akin Case Flake McMorris Rogers (KY) Weldon (FL) years here at home, in Afghanistan, Alexander Castle Foley McNulty Rogers (MI) Meehan Ros-Lehtinen Weldon (PA) Iraq and everywhere terrorism threat- Allen Chabot Forbes Andrews Chandler Ford Meek (FL) Ross Weller ens the survival and success of liberty Baca Chocola Fortenberry Melancon Royce Westmoreland until the fight is won. Bachus Clyburn Fossella Menendez Ruppersberger Whitfield We know not the day nor the hour, Baker Coble Foxx Mica Ryan (WI) Wilson (NM) Barrow Cole (OK) Franks (AZ) Michaud Ryun (KS) Wilson (SC) Mr. Chairman, when the scourge of ter- Bartlett (MD) Conaway Frelinghuysen Millender- Salazar Wolf rorism will be repelled once and for all Barton (TX) Cooper Gallegly McDonald Saxton Wu from Iraq, from the Middle East, from Bass Costa Garrett (NJ) Miller (FL) Schiff Young (AK) Miller (MI) Schwartz (PA) Young (FL) our world, when citizens of all nations Bean Costello Gerlach Beauprez Cox Gibbons will breathe air cleared of the cries of Berkley Cramer Gillmor NOES—100 wounded heroes and the report of hos- Berry Crenshaw Gingrey Abercrombie Johnson, E. B. Pelosi tile gunfire, when men will be free, Biggert Crowley Gohmert Ackerman Jones (NC) Price (NC) Bilirakis Cubin Gonzalez Baird Kanjorski Rahall when women will be honored, and when Bishop (GA) Cuellar Goode Baldwin Kaptur Rohrabacher children will be safe. Bishop (NY) Culberson Goodlatte Barrett (SC) Kildee Rothman As long as war is our policy and vic- Bishop (UT) Cunningham Gordon Becerra Kilpatrick (MI) Roybal-Allard tory is our aim, Mr. Chairman, neither Blackburn Davis (AL) Granger Berman King (IA) Blunt Davis (CA) Graves Rush can our enemies. Blumenauer Knollenberg Ryan (OH) Boehlert Davis (FL) Green (WI) Boucher Kolbe I urge all of our colleagues to bring Boehner Davis (KY) Green, Al Sabo Capps Kucinich Sa´ nchez, Linda that day a bit closer by truly sup- Bonilla Davis (TN) Green, Gene Capuano LaHood Bonner Davis, Jo Ann Gutknecht T. porting our troops in word as well as in Clay Lee Sanchez, Loretta Bono Davis, Tom Hall Cleaver Lofgren, Zoe deed by supporting the Ros-Lehtinen Sanders Boozman Deal (GA) Harman Conyers Lowey Schakowsky amendment. Boren DeFazio Harris Davis (IL) Lynch Serrano The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- Boswell DeGette Hart Delahunt Matsui Sherwood Boustany DeLay Hastings (FL) DeLauro McCollum (MN) tion is on the amendment offered by Boyd Dent Hastings (WA) Slaughter the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Dingell McCrery Bradley (NH) Diaz-Balart, L. Hayworth Doggett McDermott Smith (WA) ROS-LEHTINEN). Brady (PA) Diaz-Balart, M. Hefley Doyle McGovern Snyder The question was taken; and the Act- Brady (TX) Dicks Hensarling Eshoo McKinney Solis ing Chairman announced that the ayes Brown (OH) Doolittle Herger Farr Meeks (NY) Stark Brown, Corrine Drake Herseth Frank (MA) Miller, George Tauscher appeared to have it. Brown-Waite, Dreier Higgins Gilchrest Mollohan Thompson (MS) Ms. ROS-LEHTINEN. Mr. Chairman, Ginny Duncan Hinchey Grijalva Moore (WI) Tiahrt I demand a recorded vote. Burgess Edwards Hoekstra Gutierrez Moran (VA) Tierney The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Burton (IN) Ehlers Holden Hayes Murtha Turner Butterfield Emanuel Holt Hobson Oberstar Visclosky clause 6 of rule XVIII, further pro- Buyer Emerson Hooley Honda Obey Waters ceedings on the amendment offered by Calvert Engel Hostettler Hyde Olver Watt the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Camp English (PA) Hoyer Inslee Pascrell Wexler Cannon Etheridge Hulshof Wicker ROS-LEHTINEN) will be postponed. Issa Pastor Cantor Evans Hunter Jackson (IL) Paul Woolsey SEQUENTIAL VOTES POSTPONED IN COMMITTEE Capito Everett Inglis (SC) Jefferson Payne Wynn OF THE WHOLE Cardin Fattah Israel Cardoza Feeney Istook NOT VOTING—3 The Acting CHAIRMAN. Pursuant to Carnahan Ferguson Jackson-Lee clause 6 of rule XVIII, proceedings will Carson Filner (TX) Brown (SC) Cummings Hinojosa

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:29 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00057 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.137 H20JYPT1 H6166 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 b 1737 Gillmor Lucas Rogers (MI) Rush Snyder Visclosky Gingrey Lungren, Daniel Rohrabacher Sabo Solis Wasserman Ms. BALDWIN, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Gohmert E. Ros-Lehtinen Sa´ nchez, Linda Stark Schultz Ms. LINDA T. SA´ NCHEZ of California, Goode Lynch Ross T. Strickland Waters Ms. SOLIS, Messrs. RUSH, ROHR- Goodlatte Mack Royce Sanders Stupak Watson Gordon Manzullo Ruppersberger Schakowsky Thompson (CA) Watt ABACHER, DOGGETT, SERRANO, Ms. Granger Marchant Ryan (OH) Scott (VA) Thompson (MS) Waxman DELAURO, Ms. WOOLSEY, Messrs. Graves Marshall Ryan (WI) Serrano Tierney Weiner Shays Udall (NM) BAIRD, HYDE, HAYES, SMITH of Green (WI) Matheson Ryun (KS) Wexler Green, Gene McCarthy Salazar Sherman Van Hollen Woolsey Washington, Ms. LORETTA SANCHEZ Gutknecht McCaul (TX) Sanchez, Loretta Slaughter Vela´ zquez of California, Mrs. TAUSCHER, Ms. Hall McCotter Saxton ANSWERED ‘‘PRESENT’’—2 MCCOLLUM of Minnesota, Ms. Harman McCrery Schiff Harris McHenry Schwartz (PA) Bartlett (MD) Ehlers SLAUGHTER, Messrs. SNYDER, HOB- Hart McHugh Schwarz (MI) SON, KING of Iowa, and TURNER Hastings (WA) McIntyre Scott (GA) NOT VOTING—3 changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ Hayes McKeon Sensenbrenner Brown (SC) Cummings Hinojosa Messrs. RYAN of Wisconsin, Hayworth McMorris Sessions Hefley Meek (FL) Shadegg b 1747 SALAZAR, WAXMAN, BOUSTANY, Hensarling Melancon Shaw MEEHAN, and MACK, and Mrs. JONES Herger Menendez Sherwood Mr. WEXLER and Mr. RAHALL of Ohio changed their vote from ‘‘no’’ Herseth Mica Shimkus changed their vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ Higgins Miller (FL) Shuster So the amendment was agreed to. to ‘‘aye.’’ Hobson Miller (MI) Simmons So the amendment was agreed to. Hoekstra Miller (NC) Simpson The result of the vote was announced The result of the vote was announced Hooley Miller, Gary Skelton as above recorded. Hostettler Moore (KS) Smith (NJ) AMENDMENT NO. 38 OFFERED BY MS. ROS- as above recorded. Hoyer Moran (KS) Smith (TX) LEHTINEN AMENDMENT NO. 37A OFFERED BY MR. Hulshof Murphy Smith (WA) ROHRABACHER Hunter Musgrave Sodrel The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Hyde Myrick Souder GINGREY). The pending business is the The Acting CHAIRMAN (Mr. Inglis (SC) Neugebauer Spratt GINGREY). The pending business is the Israel Ney Stearns demand for a recorded vote on the demand for a recorded vote on the Issa Northup Sullivan amendment offered by the gentle- Istook Norwood Sweeney woman from Florida (Ms. ROS- amendment offered by the gentleman Jenkins Nunes Tancredo LEHTINEN) on which further pro- from California (Mr. ROHRABACHER) on Jindal Nussle Tanner which further proceedings were post- Johnson (CT) Ortiz Tauscher ceedings were postponed and on which poned and on which the ayes prevailed Johnson (IL) Osborne Taylor (MS) the ayes prevailed by voice vote. Johnson, Sam Otter Taylor (NC) The Clerk will redesignate the by voice vote. Jones (NC) Oxley Terry The Clerk will redesignate the Keller Pearce Thomas amendment. amendment. Kelly Pence Thornberry The Clerk redesignated the amend- Kennedy (MN) Peterson (MN) Tiahrt ment. The Clerk redesignated the amend- Kildee Peterson (PA) Tiberi ment. Kind Pickering Towns RECORDED VOTE RECORDED VOTE King (IA) Pitts Turner The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded King (NY) Platts Udall (CO) vote has been demanded. The Acting CHAIRMAN. A recorded Kingston Poe Upton vote has been demanded. Kirk Pombo Walden (OR) A recorded vote was ordered. A recorded vote was ordered. Kline Pomeroy Walsh The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be Knollenberg Porter Wamp a 5-minute vote. The Acting CHAIRMAN. This will be Kolbe Price (GA) Weldon (FL) The vote was taken by electronic de- a 5-minute vote. Kuhl (NY) Pryce (OH) Weldon (PA) vice, and there were—ayes 291, noes 137, The vote was taken by electronic de- LaHood Putnam Weller Langevin Radanovich Westmoreland answered ‘‘present’’ 2, not voting 3, as vice, and there were—ayes 304, noes 124, Lantos Ramstad Whitfield follows: answered ‘‘present’’ 2, not voting 3, as Larsen (WA) Regula Wicker follows: Latham Rehberg Wilson (NM) [Roll No. 397] LaTourette Reichert Wilson (SC) AYES—291 [Roll No. 396] Lewis (CA) Renzi Wolf Aderholt Burton (IN) Diaz-Balart, L. AYES—304 Lewis (KY) Reyes Wu Linder Reynolds Wynn Akin Butterfield Diaz-Balart, M. Aderholt Burton (IN) Davis, Jo Ann Lipinski Rogers (AL) Young (AK) Alexander Buyer Dicks Akin Butterfield Davis, Tom LoBiondo Rogers (KY) Young (FL) Andrews Calvert Doolittle Alexander Buyer Deal (GA) Bachus Camp Drake Andrews Calvert DeFazio NOES—124 Baird Cannon Dreier Bachus Camp DeLay Baker Cantor Edwards Baird Cannon Dent Abercrombie Green, Al McGovern Barrett (SC) Capito Ehlers Baker Cantor Diaz-Balart, L. Ackerman Grijalva McKinney Barrow Cardin Emanuel Barrett (SC) Capito Diaz-Balart, M. Allen Gutierrez McNulty Barton (TX) Cardoza Emerson Barrow Cardin Dicks Baca Hastings (FL) Meehan Bass Carnahan Engel Barton (TX) Cardoza Doolittle Baldwin Hinchey Meeks (NY) Bean Carter English (PA) Bass Carnahan Drake Becerra Holden Michaud Beauprez Case Etheridge Bean Carson Dreier Berman Holt Millender- Berkley Castle Everett Beauprez Carter Duncan Blumenauer Honda McDonald Berman Chabot Feeney Berkley Case Edwards Boucher Inslee Miller, George Berry Chandler Ferguson Berry Castle Emerson Brady (PA) Jackson (IL) Mollohan Biggert Chocola Fitzpatrick (PA) Biggert Chabot Engel Brown (OH) Jackson-Lee Moore (WI) Bilirakis Clyburn Flake Bilirakis Chandler English (PA) Brown, Corrine (TX) Moran (VA) Bishop (GA) Coble Foley Bishop (GA) Chocola Eshoo Capps Jefferson Murtha Bishop (NY) Cole (OK) Forbes Bishop (NY) Clyburn Etheridge Capuano Johnson, E. B. Nadler Bishop (UT) Conaway Ford Bishop (UT) Coble Everett Clay Jones (OH) Napolitano Blackburn Cooper Fortenberry Blackburn Cole (OK) Feeney Cleaver Kanjorski Neal (MA) Blunt Costa Fossella Blunt Conaway Ferguson Conyers Kaptur Oberstar Boehlert Cox Foxx Boehlert Cooper Fitzpatrick (PA) Crowley Kennedy (RI) Obey Boehner Cramer Franks (AZ) Boehner Costa Flake Davis (IL) Kilpatrick (MI) Olver Bonilla Crenshaw Frelinghuysen Bonilla Costello Foley DeGette Kucinich Owens Bonner Cubin Gallegly Bonner Cox Forbes Delahunt Larson (CT) Pallone Bono Cuellar Garrett (NJ) Bono Cramer Ford DeLauro Leach Pascrell Boozman Culberson Gerlach Boozman Crenshaw Fortenberry Dingell Lee Pastor Boren Cunningham Gibbons Boren Cubin Fossella Doggett Levin Paul Boswell Davis (AL) Gilchrest Boswell Cuellar Foxx Doyle Lewis (GA) Payne Boucher Davis (FL) Gillmor Boustany Culberson Franks (AZ) Emanuel Lofgren, Zoe Pelosi Boustany Davis (KY) Gingrey Boyd Cunningham Frelinghuysen Evans Lowey Petri Boyd Davis (TN) Gohmert Bradley (NH) Davis (AL) Gallegly Farr Maloney Price (NC) Bradley (NH) Davis, Jo Ann Gonzalez Brady (TX) Davis (CA) Garrett (NJ) Fattah Markey Rahall Brady (TX) Davis, Tom Goode Brown-Waite, Davis (FL) Gerlach Filner Matsui Rangel Brown-Waite, Deal (GA) Goodlatte Ginny Davis (KY) Gibbons Frank (MA) McCollum (MN) Rothman Ginny DeLay Gordon Burgess Davis (TN) Gilchrest Gonzalez McDermott Roybal-Allard Burgess Dent Granger

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00058 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.139 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6167 Graves Manzullo Rogers (MI) Slaughter Tierney Watson H.R. 2601 also includes a number of Green (WI) Marchant Rohrabacher Smith (WA) Towns Watt amendments that were passed during the bill’s Green, Gene Marshall Ros-Lehtinen Snyder Udall (NM) Waxman Gutknecht Matheson Ross Solis Van Hollen Weiner consideration on the floor. I voted against an Hall McCarthy Royce Stark Vela´ zquez Wexler amendment offered by Representative HYDE Harman McCaul (TX) Ruppersberger Strickland Visclosky Woolsey regarding reform of the United Nations. The Harris McCotter Stupak Wamp Ryan (WI) Wu amendment was based on the U.N. Reform Hart McCrery Ryun (KS) Tauscher Wasserman Young (FL) Hastings (WA) McHenry Salazar Thompson (CA) Schultz Act, which I opposed—along with many of my Hayes McHugh Saxton Thompson (MS) Waters colleagues—when it was considered as a Hayworth McIntyre Schiff ANSWERED ‘‘PRESENT’’—2 stand-alone bill a month ago. Hefley McKeon Schwartz (PA) Hensarling McMorris Schwarz (MI) Bartlett (MD) Jones (NC) The U.N. is a critically important body that Herger Meek (FL) Scott (GA) NOT VOTING—3 has taken on many of the world’s problems Herseth Melancon Sensenbrenner and solved them—problems such as poverty, Higgins Menendez Brown (SC) Cummings Hinojosa Sessions disease, and international disputes. And the Hobson Mica Shadegg Hoekstra Miller (FL) b 1756 Shaw U.S. has benefited from U.N. actions. Just re- Hoyer Miller (MI) Shays Mr. MEEK of Florida changed his cently, the U.N. helped with elections in Af- Hulshof Miller, Gary Sherwood Hunter Moore (KS) vote from ‘‘no’’ to ‘‘aye.’’ ghanistan and Iraq and helped negotiate the Shimkus Hyde Moran (KS) So the amendment was agreed to. withdrawal of Syrian forces from Lebanon. Shuster Inglis (SC) Murphy Simmons The result of the vote was announced But I share the view that the United Nations Israel Musgrave Simpson as above recorded. Issa Myrick needs to be improved so it can better carry Skelton Istook Neugebauer Mr. FARR. Mr. Chairman, I would like to out its indispensable role. It has serious prob- Smith (NJ) Jenkins Ney commend the Chairman and Ranking Member Smith (TX) lems, as exemplified by the oil-for-food scan- Jindal Northup Sodrel of the House Committee on International Rela- dal and offenses committed by U.N. peace- Johnson (CT) Norwood tions for their work in drafting the Foreign Re- Johnson (IL) Nunes Souder keeping forces. Johnson, E. B. Nussle Spratt lations Authorization Act for FY 06 and 07. So, I support U.N. reform—but I could not Johnson, Sam Ortiz Stearns Though I was supportive of the underlying bill Sullivan support the approach the amendment takes Keller Osborne that was passed out of Committee, I regret Kelly Otter Sweeney toward achieving that objective. It would re- Kennedy (MN) Oxley Tancredo that I will not be able to vote in favor of final quire the Secretary of State to push for re- Kennedy (RI) Pearce Tanner passage due to the inclusion of a variety of forms at the U.N. in the areas of budgeting, Kind Pence Taylor (MS) amendments that were added to the bill during Taylor (NC) oversight and accountability, peacekeeping, King (IA) Peterson (MN) floor consideration. King (NY) Peterson (PA) Terry and human rights. That is something that Kingston Pickering Thomas Additionally, I would have liked H.R. 2601 to needs to be done. But if the Secretary of State Kirk Pitts Thornberry address and correct the failed U.S. policy to- cannot certify that the reforms have been Kline Platts Tiahrt wards Colombia. Current U.S. assistance to Tiberi achieved, starting in 2007, the Secretary Knollenberg Poe Colombia is heavily weighted towards military Kolbe Pombo Turner would be required to withhold 50 percent of Kuhl (NY) Pomeroy Udall (CO) and drug interdiction assistance, with only 20 the U.S. assessed contributions to the U.N.’s Upton LaHood Porter percent of U.S. aid going to social and eco- regular budget. The assessed U.S. contribu- Langevin Price (GA) Walden (OR) nomic programs like alternative development Lantos Pryce (OH) Walsh tions are estimated at $362 million for 2005, Latham Putnam Weldon (FL) programs. I strongly believe that only through and $439 million for 2006. LaTourette Radanovich Weldon (PA) addressing the root causes of conflict in Co- I think such a punitive and unilateral ap- Lewis (CA) Ramstad Weller lombia, that of poverty and despair, will we be proach to reform will not work. I think its pri- Lewis (KY) Regula Westmoreland able to have lasting peace in Colombia. Linder Rehberg Whitfield mary result would be to further isolate the I am very thankful though that the Chairman Lipinski Reichert Wicker United States while at the same time actually LoBiondo Renzi Wilson (NM) and Ranking Member for the inclusion of a undermining ongoing efforts at reform and po- Lucas Reyes Wilson (SC) Sense of Congress that states that the U.S. tentially jeopardizing the U.N.’s ability to focus Lungren, Daniel Reynolds Wolf foreign assistance should be used to support E. Rogers (AL) Wynn on global threats and work toward greater local capacity-building in developing countries. Mack Rogers (KY) Young (AK) global stability. I served as a Peace Corps volunteer in Co- NOES—137 lombia during the 1960s, and the goal of our I also voted in reluctant support of an amendment offered by Representative ROHR- Abercrombie Hinchey Millender- service was to ‘‘work ourselves out of a job.’’ Ackerman Holden McDonald By the end of our two year service as Peace ABACHER regarding detainees at Guantanamo. Allen Holt Miller (NC) Corps volunteers, our goals were to have edu- I supported it because I believe it is impor- Baca Honda Miller, George tant to support an amendment that highlights Baldwin Mollohan cated host country nationals in different skills Hooley the continuing threat of terrorism and the con- Becerra Hostettler Moore (WI) who could then take ownership of develop- Blumenauer Inslee Moran (VA) ment projects and finish the job of developing tinuing necessity of disrupting terrorist activi- Brady (PA) Murtha Jackson (IL) their own country, in a culturally appropriate ties and protecting the security of the United Brown (OH) Jackson-Lee Nadler States. But my support was reluctant because Brown, Corrine (TX) Napolitano way. Capps Jefferson Neal (MA) As Peace Corps volunteers, I worked on the amendment inaccurately and incompletely Capuano Jones (OH) Oberstar micro development issues, and U.S. foreign characterizes the debate on the detention fa- Carson Kanjorski Obey cility at Guantanamo Bay and what goes on Clay Olver policy, if it is to succeed in creating long-term Kaptur there. Cleaver Kildee Owens development and foster stability in developing Conyers Kilpatrick (MI) Pallone countries, should take this mantra to heart, It calls the capture, detention, and interroga- Costello Kucinich Pascrell tion of international terrorists essential to the Crowley Pastor and focus on building local capacity. I am Larsen (WA) Davis (CA) Paul therefore very thankful for the Chairman and successful prosecution of the war on terrorism Larson (CT) Davis (IL) Payne and the defense of the United States. Cer- Leach Ranking Members recognition of the impor- DeFazio Pelosi Lee tance of local capacity building by including tainly no one can disagree with this. DeGette Petri Levin Delahunt Price (NC) this important Sense of Congress in H.R. The amendment also states that the deten- DeLauro Lewis (GA) Rahall 2601. tion and lawful, humane interrogation by the Dingell Lofgren, Zoe Rangel U.S. of detainees at Guantanamo is essential Lowey Mr. UDALL of Colorado. Mr. Chairman, I Doggett Rothman to the defense of the United States and to the Doyle Lynch Roybal-Allard rise in reluctant support of this bill. Duncan Maloney Rush It is an important bill. The Foreign Relations prosecution of the war on terrorism. It is simi- Eshoo Markey Ryan (OH) Authorization Act authorizes funding for 2 fis- larly hard to disagree with this statement. But Evans Matsui Sabo cal years for State Department programs, the point is that detentions at Guantanamo Farr McCollum (MN) Sa´ nchez, Linda Fattah McDermott T. international broadcasting activities, inter- haven’t been consistently lawful or humane. Filner McGovern Sanchez, Loretta national assistance programs, and related The amendment finally states that Guanta- Frank (MA) McKinney Sanders agencies. The bill authorizes a 12 percent in- namo is so essential to the defense of the Green, Al McNulty Schakowsky crease in funding over fiscal year 2005, includ- United States that it should not be closed Grijalva Meehan Scott (VA) Gutierrez Meeks (NY) Serrano ing funding increases for peacekeeping mis- while the U.S. is waging the war on terrorism. Hastings (FL) Michaud Sherman sions, embassy security and relief for Africa. That is an overstatement, in my opinion.

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00059 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.059 H20JYPT1 H6168 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 ‘‘Gitmo’’ is now infamous around the world same disastrous foreign policy that the Bush I also want to thank them for supporting my as a place where detainees have been mis- Administration has recklessly carried out since efforts to include a number of provisions in the treated and the Koran mishandled. There are entering office. base text of H.R. 2601 including the authoriza- over 500 detainees remaining at Guanta- Due to the addition of a misguided amend- tion of funding for South Pacific scholarships, namo—some who have been there for 3 years ment on the floor today, this bill endorses the a review of the marginalization of Pacific Is- without being charged with a crime. We still United States’ continued involvement in the land students in the awarding of Fulbright don’t know the extent of the abuses since Iraq War. This war has caused the death of al- Scholarships, a requirement for the State De- there hasn’t been any independent commis- most 1,800 Americans and wounded or killed partment to report on developments in West sion appointed to look into all the allegations. more than 60,000 Iraqis, wasted billions of Papua—including a review of human rights But whether prisoner abuse is limited or wide- dollars, and created a fertile breeding ground violations committed by Indonesia’s brutal mili- spread, there is a perception that bad things for anti-American terror. Instead of endorsing tary, Indonesia’s Special Autonomy Law for have happened at Guantanamo, and this per- our prolonged involvement in a misguided war, West Papua and the 1969 Act of No Choice ception only makes it easier for terrorists to this bill misses a significant opportunity to in which 1,025 Papuans were selected to vote find willing recruits. focus on a plan to leave Iraq. on behalf of 800,000 West Papuans to join In- An independent commission could offer rec- Further, it is disappointing that this Con- donesia in circumstances that were subject to ommendations about what to do with the re- gress—for the second time this year—has en- both overt and covert forms of manipulation. maining prisoners at Guantanamo as well as dorsed provisions that threaten punitive ac- I also thank Congressman DONALD PAYNE about the situation at detention facilities all tions against the United Nations if they fail to for working with me to make sure authoriza- over the world. Closing Guantanamo may well implement the Republican Congress’ idea of tion to fund the Charles B. Rangel Inter- be the best option, but it is an option we can- reform. It is this type of unilateral bullying that national Affairs Program at Howard University was included in the base text of H.R. 2601 not consider without also considering accom- has diminished the reputation and standing of and, again, I thank the Chairman and Ranking panying changes to the whole detention sys- the United States around the world. Such un- Member for being fully supportive of our ef- tem. compromising actions guarantee that the forts. The Rohrabacher amendment didn’t allow United States government will alienate its I am also appreciative that Chairman HYDE consideration of these finer points, and my friends and encourage its enemies. We belong and Mr. LANTOS agreed to include my request support for it should not be seen as endorse- to a community of nations. We must begin to for authorization to fund an HIV/AIDS program ment of its language. act like a good neighbor, or risk being further at $1 million per year for fiscal year 2006 and I also reluctantly voted for an amendment internationally isolated. $1 million for fiscal year 2007 which is in- I also oppose this bill’s claim that the Bush offered by Representative ROS-LEHTINEN re- tended to be directed toward India. As we garding our military activities in Iraq. The Administration policies at Guantanamo Bay, agreed, language was included in the Com- amendment states that U.S. policy is to trans- Cuba are humane and legal. After the revela- mittee report which states, ‘‘The Committee fer responsibility for Iraqi security to Iraqi tion of insurmountable evidence and court de- understands that India reports as many as forces and that the U.S. should only withdraw cisions, it is clear that the Bush Administration 1,000 new AIDS cases per month, with some ‘‘when it is clear that United States national fully supported the U.S. military’s policy of tor- estimating that almost two-thirds of all HIV- security and foreign policy goals relating to a turing prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and has positive Asians live in India. Many experts are free and stable Iraq have been or are about to illegally held prisoners indefinitely without particularly concerned that infections are mov- be achieved.’’ I agree. proper due process. To support any legislation ing from high-risk groups to the general popu- In fact, most people agree on a policy of that contradicts these facts would simply be lation. The Committee believes that a signifi- transferring responsibility for security to Iraqi lying. I will not join the Majority in an attempt cant program using these funds should be di- forces. But saying we will only withdraw when to blatantly deceive the American people and rected toward India and strongly encourages our goals are met is problematic. That’s be- the world. the establishment of a summer exchange pro- cause the administration’s goals in Iraq are far This bill also continues to endorse providing gram for postgraduate students from India to from clear—the Defense Department shifts its military aid to Egypt and Israel. Only a fool attend conferences and engage in research focus on a daily basis, and it has resisted re- would be surprised that lighting dynamite activities at leading universities in the United quests to establish metrics or measurements would cause it to explode. The same is true States.’’ to help us determine when these goals have for providing more weapons to a volatile and I especially commend Mr. Sanjay Puri, who been or ‘‘are about to be achieved.’’ So given dangerous situation that exists in the Middle is a leading voice on India and India Ameri- that we aren’t sure of our goals, this part of East. Our military assistance has been em- cans, for his efforts and diligent work on this the amendment is largely without meaning. It ployed to carry out violence against the Pales- issue. I also thank him for the work he has would have been better to include the lan- tinian people and, in the case of Egypt, done to promote peace in the Asia Pacific re- guage proposed in the motion to recommit, against their own citizens. It is time that the gion. Included in the base text is language which I supported. Bush Administration got America out of the which requires the State Department to report Recent calls for withdrawal have come arms dealing business and into the peace to Congress on the extent to which the Gov- about because there is rising opposition in this business. Only when the United States stops ernment of Pakistan has restored a fully func- country to the administration’s policy in Iraq. supplying the area with weapons will parties tional democracy in which free, fair, and trans- But I believe that just as rushing into Iraq was on both sides view us as an honest broker. parent elections are held. The Committee re- a mistake, rushing to get out would also be a Only then will peace be possible. mains concerned that Pakistan’s democratiza- mistake. We do need to send a signal to the Today, Congress had a real chance to ad- tion process is moving too slowly and needs Muslim world that America has no desire to vance an agenda that would support American to accelerate considerably. Restoring democ- stay in Iraq, but we must also make clear the international interests and provide humani- racy in Pakistan is key to stabilizing the region importance we place on transferring responsi- tarian help to many countries in need. This bill and I thank the Committee for supporting this bility for security to the Iraqis and on sup- fails to grasp that chance. A Foreign Relations important initiative. porting efforts to assist the new Iraqi Govern- Act from the so-called greatest country on At this time, I also wish to more extensively ment draft a constitution. earth should do more than promote an illegit- highlight the plight of the West Papuans. First, This must not be our last word on Iraq. imate war, supply arms to embattled nations I extend a warm welcome to the new Indo- Though not unexpected, it is disappointing that and lie bold-faced to the world about activities nesian leader, President Yudhoyono, and I the Republicans continue to politicize our pol- so many have witnessed. This bill is an em- look forward to his fostering of democratic icy in Iraq through cleverly drafted amend- barrassment to this Nation and I call on my principles. I commend Australia for supporting ments and resolutions intended solely to pi- colleagues to vote against it. the spread of democracy to Iraq and call upon geonhole Members into black and white posi- Mr. FALEOMAVAEGA. Mr. Chairman, I rise the Australian Prime Minister, Mr. Howard, to tions. in support of H.R. 2601, the Foreign Relations seriously rethink the gravity of the situation In conclusion, except for the parts related to Authorization Act for Fiscal Years 2006 and and the immediate and continuing threats to the United Nations, the bill is basically sound 2007. I want to thank Chairman HENRY HYDE the people of West Papua. I urge the Prime and deserves approval so that the legislative and Ranking Member TOM LANTOS of the Minister to take the lead on engaging with the process can go forward. International Relations Committee for their Indonesian government on this issue. I also Mr. STARK. Mr. Chairman, I rise in opposi- leadership in crafting this legislation and mov- appeal to all countries which have thrown off tion to H.R. 2601, the Foreign Relations Au- ing it to the House floor for consideration and the yoke of colonization and all Pacific nations thorization Act. This bill endorses more of the vote. to rise in support of the West Papuan cause.

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00060 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.066 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6169 There are three areas of serious defi- of law programs, and it devotes needed re- cannot. The trillions of dollars we have ciencies in Indonesia’s treatment of indigenous sources to raising the standard of living in the shipped over seas as aid, and to influence West Papuans which make an investigation developing world. and manipulate political affairs in sovereign absolutely crucial. One is the Indonesian gov- As chair of the Congressional Ethiopia Cau- countries, has not made life better for Amer- ernment’s series of hostile actions in taking cus, I recently traveled to Ethiopia to learn ican citizens. It has made them much poorer over West Papua. The Indonesian government first-hand the economic, social and political without much to show for it, however. enacted a takeover of West Papua by military challenges that this developing nation faces. Now we have a Republican-controlled Con- force of arms in 1963 clearly violating the My visit to Ethiopia and my analysis of the gress and White House, and foreign spending terms of an agreement mediated by the United country’s recent democratic elections reinforce soars. It was not that long ago when conserv- States and the Dutch in 1962 which gave sov- my belief that the State Department has an atives looked at such cavalier handling of U.S. ereignty over West Papua to a United Nations important and powerful role to play in fostering tax dollars with consternation. Now it seems Temporary Executive Authority. In 1969 the In- democratic reforms and respect for human that they are in a race with the Left to see donesian government then orchestrated an rights. I, therefore, am pleased that H.R. 2601 who can spend more. election that many regarded as a brutal mili- increases funding for the State Department’s What is wrong with this bill? Let me just tary operation. Known as the ‘‘Act of Free Human Rights and Democracy Fund and the mention a few of the most egregious items. In Choice,’’ 1,022 Papuan elders were ‘‘selected’’ National Endowment for Democracy. These the name of promoting ‘‘religious liberty’’ and under heavy military surveillance and to no two proven programs deserve our support, ‘‘fighting anti-Semitism’’ this bill will funnel mil- one’s surprise, every elder voted in favor of In- and if funded at authorized levels, they will lions of dollars to the corrupt Organization for donesian rule. contribute to world peace. This foreign rela- Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) Two, the Special Autonomy Law passed by tions bill also authorizes funds for U.S. dues to and its Office of Democratic Institutions and the Indonesian Parliament in 2001 supposedly international organizations and UN peace- Human Rights (ODIHR). This unaccountable enabled the people of West Papua to govern keeping, including $1.3 billion to bolster international organization is at the forefront of their own affairs. However, today key meas- peacekeeping over the next two fiscal years. the manipulation and meddling in the internal ures under the Law remain unimplemented or While I support H.R. 2601, I want to make affairs of other sovereign states, and has re- actively violated. West Papuans have not re- clear my belief that it does not go as far as it peatedly dishonored itself through politically-bi- ceived their promised representative body, should. H. Con. Res. 172, a resolution au- ased monitoring of foreign elections. The funds vital for meeting their basic human thored by my colleague Congresswoman OSCE does not deserve a penny from the needs are either unallocated, or are allocated MCCOLLUM, provides a blueprint for U.S. for- American taxpayer, but this bill will make sure late, transmigration of Indonesian migrants eign assistance to developing nations. This that the lavishly paid bureaucrats that staff the continues to overwhelm culturally distinct in- resolution calls on the President, the Secretary organization will be able to maintain their digenous. West Papuans, and the division of of State, and other executive branch officials standard of living—at our expense. With re- West Papua into two provinces violates key to provide the necessary resources to reduce gard to religious liberty, privately funded vol- governance provisions. poverty by advancing the promotion of democ- untary organizations have been shown to be Finally, human rights abuses committed by racy. As the world’s remaining super power, much more effective in promoting tolerance. the military over decades, including those re- we can afford to allocate 1 percent of the Fed- This is mainly true because these are true lated to environment degradation, continue. eral budget to developing nations, and we grassroots organizations with a stake in their Under the repressive regimes of Presidents must do so. More funding must be appro- countries and communities, rather than Sukrano and Schuarto, military brutality re- priated to help alleviate the suffering of 1.3 bil- unelectd international bureaucrats imposing sulted in the merciless killing or disappearance lion people mired in extreme poverty and dis- politically-correct edicts from above. of an estimated 100,000 West Papuans while ease. This bill spends a total of four and a half bil- unofficial counts are set at the extraordinary I am also disappointed by passage of the lion dollars on various United Nations activi- level of 300,000 to 400,000. The Indonesian Hyde amendment, which will withhold U.S. ties, UN peacekeeping, and U.S. ‘‘dues’’ to military and Special Forces have, in the past dues unless the international body adopts a various international organizations. Forcing the three years alone, murdered 81 indigenous ci- specified list of reforms. Based on the United taxpayer to continue to underwrite these orga- vilians; tortured, beaten and jailed 34 West Nations Reform Act, the Hyde Amendment nizations, which do not operate in our best in- Papuans; displaced 6393 from their homes; also requires the U.S. to veto new or ex- terests, is unconscionable. and brunt down 23 churches and 370 tradi- panded peacekeeping missions if the reforms This bill continues to fund organizations tional houses. This violence threatens to esca- are not implemented. I do believe reforms are such as the National Endowment for Democ- late. The Indonesian central government is re- necessary, and base text of H.R. 2601 pro- racy, which as I have written before has very sponding swiftly to a West Papuan announce- vides for the necessary reforms. The Hyde little to do with democracy. It is an organiza- ment that decisively rejects the Special Auton- Amendment, however, requires unreasonable tion that uses U.S. tax money to actually sub- omy arrangements. It is currently transferring reforms and sets punitive action that is coun- vert democracy, by showering funding on fa- over 15,000 troops to West Papua, a region terproductive. I join the Ranking Member LAN- vored political parties or movements overseas. which is already occupied by six Army Battal- TOS in opposing this amendment, and I will It underwrites color-coded ‘‘people’s revolu- ions, one Air Force Battalion and one Battalion work in conference to eliminate its provisions tions’’ overseas that look more like pages out of Mobile Brigade of Police, by far the heavi- from the conference report. of Lenin’s writings on stealing power than gen- est military presence in all Indonesia. Mr. Chairman, the funding authorized under uine indigenous democratic movements. The These are human issues that transcend na- this bill is only one, small step in the global ef- NED used American taxpayer dollars to at- tional borders. The investigation called for fort to end the hunger and malnutrition faced tempt to guarantee that certain candidates under this Bill will send a strong message that by over 800 million children around the world overseas are winners and others are losers in Congress will no longer ignore the human on a daily basis. As the world’s wealthiest na- the electoral processes overseas. What kind rights abuses, the increasing threat of military tion, we have a moral obligation to be the of message do we think this sends to foreign violence and the denial of a voice under which leading advocate for and contributor to devel- states? The National Endowment or Democ- the people of West Papua have suffered for oping nations. I urge my colleagues to pass racy should receive no funding at all, but this so many years. I thank the Committee for in- this bill. bill continues to funnel tens of millions of dol- cluding this historic initiative in the Foreign Re- Mr. PAUL. Mr. Chairman, I rise in strong op- lars to that unaccountable organization. lations Act. For too long, the cries of West position to this foreign relations authorization I am also very concerned about several of Papuans have fallen on deaf ears and I pray bill. Something has gone terribly wrong with the amendments to this legislation. First, the that with the concerted attention of the U.S. our foreign policy when we feel we must take extremely misleading UN ‘‘reform’’ act was Congress, Australia, and the international almost 21 billion dollars out of the pockets of slipped into this bill even though it was already community, justice and freedom will finally the American taxpayer and ship it overseas. passed on the Floor as a separate bill. As I come to the people of West Papua. Imagine what the Founders of this country have written about this terrible legislation, ‘‘it Mr. HONDA. Mr. Chairman, I rise today in would say if they were among us to see this will give the United Nations unprecedented support of H.R. 2601, legislation to authorize blatant disregard for the Constitution and for new authority to intervene in sovereign appropriations for the Department of State for the founding principles of this country. This bill states.’’ fiscal years 2006 and 2007. This bill appro- proceeds from the view that with enough Another amendment will create a chilling priately recognizes the need for the U.S. in- money we can buy friends and influence for- ‘‘Active Response Corps,’’ to be made up of vestment in international democracy and rule eign governments. But as history shows us we U.S. government bureaucrats and members of

VerDate jul 14 2003 05:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00061 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 9920 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.069 H20JYPT1 H6170 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 ‘‘non-governmental organizations.’’ Its purpose tion also requires the Secretary of State to ap- (3) The men and women of the United will be to ‘‘stabilize’’ countries undergoing pear before Congress to present the annual States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq are ‘‘democratic transition.’’ This means that as Patterns of Global Terrorism report. The threat part of a multinational coalition, and are serving side-by-side with Iraqi national soon as the NED-funded ‘‘people’s revolution- to the United States, our allies and interests forces who have been trained in part by coa- aries’’ are able to seize power in the streets, from transnational terrorism will require every lition members. U.S. funded teams will be deployed to make element of national power to combat it. Con- (4) Coalition and Iraqi forces, Iraqi civil- sure they retain power. All in the name of de- gress has a key role to play in this regard. ians, foreign diplomats, and individuals from mocracy, of course. I urge my colleagues to support this legisla- around the world who have come to the aid Mr. Chairman, this is a shameful day for the tion. of the Iraqi people are under attack from ter- U.S. Congress. We are taking billions out of The Acting CHAIRMAN. The ques- rorists who deliberately attack children, the pockets of Americans and sending the tion is on the committee amendment worshippers, and law enforcement figures, attack civilians at random, sabotage essen- money overseas in violation of the Constitu- in the nature of a substitute, as modi- tial services, and otherwise attempt to ter- tion. These are billions that will not be avail- fied, as amended. rorize the Iraqi people. able for investment inside the United States: The committee amendment in the (b) SENSE OF CONGRESS.— It is the sense of investment in infrastructure, roads, new busi- nature of a substitute, as modified, as Congress that— nesses, education. These are billions that will amended, was agreed to. (1) given the nature of the adversary that not be available to American families, to take The Acting CHAIRMAN. Under the the United States and its coalition partners rule, the Committee rises. face in Iraq and the difficult conditions care of their children or senior relatives, or to under which the United States Armed give to their churches or favorite charities. We Accordingly, the Committee rose; Forces, coalition forces, and Iraqi forces find must not continue to spend money like there and the Speaker pro tempore (Mr. themselves, President George W. Bush is no tomorrow. We are going broke, and bills SIMPSON) having assumed the chair, should advise Congress immediately of the like this are like a lead foot on the accelerator Mr. GINGREY, Acting Chairman of the benchmarks for success, to include adopting toward bankruptcy. Committee of the Whole House on the a constitution, holding free and fair elec- Mr. ROYCE. Mr. Chairman, I rise in support State of the Union, reported that that tions, and establishing a plan for economic of H.R. 2601. The chairman, Ranking Mem- Committee, having had under consider- development, that the United States will em- ation the bill (H.R. 2601) to authorize ploy in determining when Iraqi forces may ber, and Committee members have worked assume responsibility for the security of Iraq well to give our State Department the tools appropriations for the Department of so that United States Armed Forces may re- necessary to carry out our Nations’ foreign State for the fiscal years 2006 and 2007, turn home; and policy in a very challenging world. and for other purposes, pursuant to (2) lack of a clearly articulated strategy As Chairman of the Subcommittee on Inter- House Resolution 365, he reported the for success in Iraq may cause miscalcula- national Terrorism and Nonproliferation, I’d like bill back to the House with an amend- tions by factions in Iraq and undermine the to bring attention to two important provisions ment adopted by the Committee of the morale of the United States Armed Forces, in this bill. Whole. coalition forces, and Iraqi forces, and put Importantly, this bill offers support to the The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under their security at risk. (c) POLICY.—It shall be the policy of the Trans-Sahara Counter Terrorism Initiative, a the rule, the previous question is or- United States— comprehensive counter-terrorism program in dered. (1) to devise and implement an effective north Africa. Its predecessor, the Pan-Sahel Is a separate vote demanded on any plan to bring stability to Iraq so that the re- Initiative, has worked to boost the anti-terrorist amendment to the committee amend- sponsibility for Iraq’s security may be trans- capabilities of Mauritania, Mali, Niger and ment in the nature of a substitute ferred to the Iraqi people as soon as possible; Chad—producing promising results with mod- adopted by the Committee of the (2) to provide United States Armed Forces est resources. The effort to expand the PSI Whole? If not, the question is on the in Iraq, in a timely manner, with the equip- ment and other resources needed to do their into the TSCTI, so that countries across the amendment. jobs effectively and safely; and Sahara are able to bolster their ability to deny The amendment was agreed to. (3) to assist members of the United States terrorist sanctuaries, is a much-needed devel- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Armed Forces when they return home from opment. Transnational terrorists, linked to al- question is on the engrossment and Iraq to meet their health care and other Qaeda, have been found operating in this third reading of the bill. needs in a manner that reflects the extraor- vast, and largely ungoverned portion of the The bill was ordered to be engrossed dinary sacrifices they have made for the Na- world. The United States must respond to Afri- and read a third time, and was read the tion. ca’s growing strategic importance. This pro- third time. b 1800 gram, when fully implemented, will be an im- MOTION TO RECOMMIT OFFERED BY MR. The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. portant step in that direction. MENENDEZ SIMPSON). The gentleman from New Additionally, the bill updates the existing leg- Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Speaker, I offer islation requiring that the State Department Jersey is recognized for 5 minutes. a motion to recommit. Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Speaker, let me annually report to Congress on Patterns of The SPEAKER pro tempore. Is the be clear from the very beginning. Global Terrorism. For the past 2 years, this gentleman opposed to the bill? Democrats are strong supporters of our key report has been mired in controversy. The Mr. MENENDEZ. In its present form, Nation’s Armed Forces, of the men and 2003 edition errored in underreporting attacks. I am, Mr. Speaker. women, the sons and daughters, who The 2004 report was issued minus its tradi- The SPEAKER pro tempore. The defend our freedom and protect our in- tional annex statistically reporting on the num- Clerk will report the motion to recom- terests while in harm’s way. Therefore, ber of terrorist attacks worldwide. mit. as Members of Congress, it is our duty, This legislation, which builds upon a hearing The Clerk read as follows: our moral obligation and our responsi- held by the Subcommittee on International Mr. Menendez moves to recommit the bill bility to the American people and to Terrorism and Nonproliferation, seeks to ad- H.R. 2601 to the Committee on International Relations with instructions to report the those very troops to ensure that our dress those controversies and improve Pat- country has a success strategy for Iraq terns by requiring a single authoritative report same back to the House forthwith with the following amendment: so that we can eventually bring our and updating the criteria to be used in cata- Page 312, after line 8, insert the following troops home. However, I am not refer- loging terrorist attacks. For instance, in 2004— new section: ring to a hard and fast timetable or under the old criteria—a Russian airliner SEC. 1110A. UNITED STATES COMMITMENT TO date certain that our troops have to be downed by Chechen terrorists was not re- IRAQ. withdrawn by. corded, as it was deemed to not involve citi- (a) FINDINGS.—Congress finds the fol- But, unfortunately, the bill we have zens of more than one country. Yet, a second lowing: before us today, as amended, fails the Russian airliner, which was taken out of the (1) The men and women of the United American people because it does not sky simultaneously by Chechen terrorists, was States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq are clearly define the benchmarks for that serving with bravery, distinction, and high counted—as one passenger was a foreign na- morale. success strategy. Unless we adopt this tional. With this legislation, such parsing (2) The men and women of the United motion to recommit, we have no de- should be eliminated—and terrorism will be States Armed Forces fighting in Iraq need fined goals, no defined measurable counted as terrorism—so that we can get full and deserve the full support of the American standards, and no strategy for success grasp of the challenges facing us. The legisla- people. in Iraq.

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00062 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.071 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6171 Without a clearly defined strategy curity for the entire nation of Iraq? Is are in the House of Commons rather for success in Iraq, this administration it 160,000? Is it 300,000? Are we talking than Congress. Winston Churchill is has no accountability to the Congress, about the quality of Iraqi troops? Do talking, and he says this: our troops in Iraq, their families here we know how many battalions of Iraqi ‘‘Even though large tracts of Europe at home, or the American people. Right troops are currently able to fight with- and many old and famous States have now, this bill does not define what the out the direct support of American fallen into the grip of the Gestapo and American and Iraqi people should ex- forces? It has been reported that only all the odious apparatus of Nazi rule, pect from our engagement in Iraq. If three Iraqi battalions are fully oper- we shall not flag or fail. We shall go on you do not know where you are going, ational, meaning that over 100 battal- to the end, we shall fight in France, we how can you possibly know when you ions cannot handle the job of providing shall fight on the seas and oceans, we will get there? security for Iraq. shall fight with growing confidence and This administration possesses the in- Does democracy simply mean holding growing strength in the air, we shall formation, the means and the where- elections, or does democracy mean defend our Island, whatever the cost withal to produce a defined plan for holding free and fair elections based on may be, we shall fight on the beaches, success in Iraq, and has failed to do so. a fully functioning constitution? We we shall fight on the landing grounds, They should come not only to Con- are not quibbling over details here. we shall fight in the fields and in the gress, but also to the American people These critical questions go to the core streets, we shall fight in the hills; we and lay out their benchmarks so we issues that will determine success in shall never surrender,’’ until July 22, know exactly what we need to do to Iraq. which is the cut-off date in the resolu- achieve success in Iraq. I urge my colleagues to support the tion. motion to recommit so that we can Up to this point, Congress has abdi- Vote for this resolution. have a clear and well-defined strategy cated its responsibility on Iraq. The The SPEAKER pro tempore. Without for success in Iraq. Without a plan for Republican leadership has provided the objection, the previous question is or- success, we are doomed to failure. The administration with a blank check dered on the motion to recommit. when it comes to Iraq. And with over administration is keeping us in an open-ended engagement with no clear There was no objection. 1,760 American soldiers dead, more The SPEAKER pro tempore. The than 13,500 others wounded, many of end in sight. As we ask the sons and daughters of question is on the motion to recommit. them severely, and over $200 billion ap- The question was taken; and the propriated, that simply cannot con- America to stand in harm’s way, we must ensure that they are doing so no Speaker pro tempore announced that tinue. the noes appeared to have it. It is also important that the Iraqis longer than it is necessary to ensure understand our goals and what bench- success. Vote for the motion to recom- RECORDED VOTE marks we will use to determine the ful- mit. Mr. MENENDEZ. Mr. Speaker, I de- Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I rise in op- fillment of those goals. By establishing mand a recorded vote. position to the motion to recommit. easily understandable benchmarks, A recorded vote was ordered. The SPEAKER pro tempore. The gen- The SPEAKER pro tempore. Pursu- which include creating a functioning tleman from Illinois is recognized for 5 Iraqi security force, the writing of a ant to clause 8 and 9 of rule XX, this 15- minutes. minute vote on the motion to recom- constitution, holding free and fair elec- Mr. HYDE. Mr. Speaker, I might note mit will be followed by 5-minute votes tions, we let the Iraqi people know that parenthetically that in the motion to on passage, if ordered, and on the mo- we are not occupiers. By establishing recommit, it says ‘‘to provide U.S. tion to suspend the rules and agree to such standards, we show the Iraqi peo- Armed Forces in Iraq in a timely man- H. Res. 326, as amended. ple that we have no plans to perma- ner with the equipment and other re- The vote was taken by electronic de- nently remain in Iraq and, in doing so, sources needed to do their job.’’ possibly diminish support for the insur- I also take note that the supple- vice, and there were—ayes 203, noes 227, gency. Without these benchmarks, mental 2 months ago had 54 Democrats not voting 3, as follows: many will question what our purpose is voting ‘‘no.’’ That is what you use to [Roll No. 398] in Iraq and how long we will be there. pay for the war. So to demand re- AYES—203 Clearly, our current policy could sources and to refuse to pay for them is Abercrombie Cramer Holt hardly be called a success. Iraq has be- curious. Ackerman Crowley Honda come not only ground zero for ter- The motion to recommit proceeds Allen Cuellar Hooley Andrews Davis (AL) Hoyer rorism, but also the breeding and train- from mistaken premises. The erroneous Baca Davis (CA) Inslee ing ground for those that can and very premise is the administration has not Baird Davis (FL) Israel well may seek to carry out future ter- presented a strategy for victory and Baldwin Davis (IL) Jackson (IL) rorist attacks throughout the world. Barrow Davis (TN) Jackson-Lee has not provided the military with the Bean DeFazio (TX) That is why we must have clearly de- tools to do the job. Becerra DeGette Jefferson fined benchmarks that are detailed and The fact is the administration has Berkley Delahunt Johnson, E. B. specific. These benchmarks must be in been crystal clear in presenting its Berman DeLauro Jones (NC) distinct areas such as security and Berry Dicks Jones (OH) plan for victory, and to those who keep Bishop (GA) Dingell Kanjorski troop levels and Iraqi governance and saying there is not such a plan, I ask Bishop (NY) Doggett Kaptur democracy, because right now we are you to take pen and pencil out and Blumenauer Doyle Kennedy (RI) unsure of how this administration write this down: one, defeat the enemy, Boren Edwards Kildee Boswell Emanuel Kilpatrick (MI) would define success. working with the coalition and Iraqi Boucher Engel Kind Republicans advocate for established forces; two, train the Iraqi security Boyd Eshoo Kucinich standards and tests to measure success forces so they can take on the burden Brady (PA) Etheridge Langevin in education. They expect this of our Brown (OH) Evans Lantos of protecting themselves; and, three, Brown, Corrine Farr Larsen (WA) children. Well, why should we not ex- set the conditions for political and eco- Butterfield Fattah Larson (CT) pect the same type of measurable nomic growth in Iraq. Capps Filner Lee standards from the administration If the other side has not heard of this Capuano Ford Levin Cardin Frank (MA) Lewis (GA) when it comes to Iraq? plan, which has been articulated again Cardoza Gonzalez Lipinski The administration refuses to define and again, it is because they were not Carnahan Gordon Lofgren, Zoe success. Tell us what it looks like, be- listening, or maybe they prefer having Carson Green, Al Lowey cause there is no way in that form in an issue to hearing what is being said. Case Green, Gene Lynch Chandler Grijalva Maloney which we will know when we have Now, a date certain. The gentleman Clay Gutierrez Markey achieved it. from New Jersey (Mr. MENENDEZ) said Cleaver Harman Marshall Are we talking about the quantity of he was not looking for a precise date. Clyburn Hastings (FL) Matheson Iraqi troops? Do we know the true Conyers Herseth Matsui But many on his side are. Cooper Higgins McCarthy number of Iraqi troops and security I ask you to use your imagination Costa Hinchey McCollum (MN) forces that will be needed to provide se- and imagine it is June 4, 1940, and you Costello Holden McDermott

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00063 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\K20JY7.145 H20JYPT1 H6172 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE July 20, 2005 McGovern Paul Smith (WA) Sodrel Tiahrt Westmoreland Harman McCarthy Roybal-Allard McIntyre Payne Snyder Souder Tiberi Whitfield Harris McCaul (TX) Royce McKinney Pelosi Solis Stearns Turner Wicker Hart McCotter Ruppersberger McNulty Peterson (MN) Spratt Sullivan Upton Wilson (NM) Hastings (WA) McCrery Rush Meehan Pomeroy Stark Sweeney Walden (OR) Wilson (SC) Hayes McHenry Ryan (OH) Meek (FL) Price (NC) Strickland Tancredo Walsh Wolf Hayworth McHugh Ryan (WI) Meeks (NY) Rahall Stupak Taylor (NC) Wamp Young (AK) Hensarling McIntyre Ryun (KS) Melancon Rangel Tanner Terry Weldon (FL) Young (FL) Herger McKeon Salazar Menendez Reyes Tauscher Thomas Weldon (PA) Herseth McMorris Sa´ nchez, Linda Michaud Ross Taylor (MS) Thornberry Weller Higgins Meek (FL) T. Millender- Rothman Thompson (CA) Hobson Meeks (NY) Sanchez, Loretta McDonald Roybal-Allard Thompson (MS) NOT VOTING—3 Hoekstra Melancon Saxton Miller (NC) Ruppersberger Tierney Brown (SC) Cummings Hinojosa Holden Menendez Schiff Miller, George Rush Towns Holt Mica Schwartz (PA) Mollohan Ryan (OH) Udall (CO) ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMORE Hooley Michaud Schwarz (MI) Moore (KS) Sabo Udall (NM) The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Hostettler Millender- Scott (GA) Moore (WI) Salazar Van Hollen Hoyer McDonald Sessions SIMPSON) (during the vote). Members Moran (VA) Sa´ nchez, Linda Vela´ zquez Hulshof Miller (MI) Shadegg Murtha T. Visclosky are advised 2 minutes remain in this Hunter Miller (NC) Shaw Nadler Sanchez, Loretta Wasserman vote. Hyde Miller, Gary Shays Napolitano Sanders Schultz Inglis (SC) Mollohan Sherman Neal (MA) Schakowsky Waters Israel Moore (KS) Sherwood Oberstar Schiff Watson b 1830 Issa Moore (WI) Shimkus Obey Schwartz (PA) Watt Mr. WALDEN of Oregon changed his Istook Moran (KS) Shuster Olver Scott (GA) Waxman Jackson-Lee Murphy Simmons Ortiz Scott (VA) Weiner vote from ‘‘aye’’ to ‘‘no.’’ (TX) Murtha Simpson Owens Serrano Wexler So the motion to recommit was re- Jefferson Musgrave Skelton Pallone Sherman Woolsey jected. Jenkins Myrick Smith (NJ) Pascrell Skelton Wu The result of the vote was announced Jindal Napolitano Smith (TX) Pastor Slaughter Wynn Johnson (CT) Neugebauer Smith (WA) as above recorded. Johnson (IL) Ney Snyder NOES—227 The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Johnson, E. B. Northup Sodrel SIMPSON). The question is on the pas- Johnson, Sam Norwood Souder Aderholt Forbes Marchant Jones (OH) Nunes Spratt Akin Fortenberry McCaul (TX) sage of the bill. Kanjorski Nussle Strickland Alexander Fossella McCotter The question was taken; and the Kaptur Ortiz Stupak Bachus Foxx McCrery Keller Osborne Sullivan Baker Franks (AZ) McHenry Speaker pro tempore announced that the ayes appeared to have it. Kelly Oxley Sweeney Barrett (SC) Frelinghuysen McHugh Kennedy (MN) Pallone Tanner Bartlett (MD) Gallegly McKeon RECORDED VOTE Kennedy (RI) Pascrell Tauscher Barton (TX) Garrett (NJ) McMorris Mr. LEACH. Mr. Speaker, I demand a Kildee Pearce Taylor (NC) Bass Gerlach Mica King (IA) Pelosi Terry Beauprez Gibbons Miller (FL) recorded vote. King (NY) Pence Thomas Biggert Gilchrest Miller (MI) A recorded vote was ordered. Kingston Peterson (MN) Thompson (CA) Bilirakis Gillmor Miller, Gary Kirk Peterson (PA) Thompson (MS) Bishop (UT) Gingrey Moran (KS) The SPEAKER pro tempore. This will be a 5-minute vote. Kline Petri Thornberry Blackburn Gohmert Murphy Knollenberg Pickering Tiahrt Blunt Goode Musgrave The vote was taken by electronic de- Kolbe Pitts Tiberi Boehlert Goodlatte Myrick vice, and there were—ayes 351, noes 78, Kuhl (NY) Platts Towns Boehner Granger Neugebauer not voting 4, as follows: LaHood Poe Turner Bonilla Graves Ney Langevin Pombo Udall (CO) Bonner Green (WI) Northup [Roll No. 399] Lantos Pomeroy Udall (NM) Bono Gutknecht Norwood AYES—351 Larsen (WA) Porter Upton Boozman Hall Nunes Larson (CT) Price (GA) Van Hollen Boustany Harris Nussle Aderholt Butterfield Diaz-Balart, L. Latham Price (NC) Walden (OR) Bradley (NH) Hart Osborne Akin Buyer Diaz-Balart, M. LaTourette Pryce (OH) Walsh Brady (TX) Hastings (WA) Otter Alexander Calvert Dingell Leach Putnam Wamp Brown-Waite, Hayes Oxley Allen Camp Doolittle Lewis (CA) Radanovich Wasserman Ginny Hayworth Pearce Andrews Cannon Doyle Lewis (KY) Ramstad Schultz Burgess Hefley Pence Baca Cantor Drake Linder Rangel Waxman Burton (IN) Hensarling Peterson (PA) Bachus Capito Dreier Lipinski Regula Weiner Buyer Herger Petri Baird Capps Edwards LoBiondo Rehberg Weldon (FL) Calvert Hobson Pickering Baker Cardin Ehlers Lowey Reichert Weldon (PA) Camp Hoekstra Pitts Barrett (SC) Cardoza Emanuel Lucas Renzi Weller Cannon Hostettler Platts Barrow Carnahan Emerson Lungren, Daniel Reyes Westmoreland Cantor Hulshof Poe Barton (TX) Carson Engel E. Reynolds Whitfield Capito Hunter Pombo Bass Carter English (PA) Lynch Rogers (AL) Wicker Carter Hyde Porter Bean Case Eshoo Mack Rogers (KY) Wilson (NM) Castle Inglis (SC) Price (GA) Beauprez Castle Etheridge Manzullo Rogers (MI) Wilson (SC) Chabot Issa Pryce (OH) Becerra Chabot Evans Marchant Rohrabacher Wolf Chocola Istook Putnam Berkley Chandler Everett Marshall Ros-Lehtinen Wynn Coble Jenkins Radanovich Berman Chocola Fattah Matheson Ross Young (AK) Cole (OK) Jindal Ramstad Biggert Cleaver Feeney Matsui Rothman Young (FL) Conaway Johnson (CT) Regula Bilirakis Clyburn Ferguson Cox Johnson (IL) Rehberg Bishop (GA) Coble Fitzpatrick (PA) NOES—78 Crenshaw Johnson, Sam Reichert Bishop (NY) Cole (OK) Foley Cubin Keller Renzi Bishop (UT) Conaway Forbes Abercrombie Honda Oberstar Culberson Kelly Reynolds Blackburn Cooper Ford Ackerman Inslee Obey Cunningham Kennedy (MN) Rogers (AL) Blumenauer Costa Fortenberry Baldwin Jackson (IL) Olver Davis (KY) King (IA) Rogers (KY) Blunt Costello Fossella Bartlett (MD) Jones (NC) Otter Davis, Jo Ann King (NY) Rogers (MI) Boehlert Cox Foxx Berry Kilpatrick (MI) Owens Davis, Tom Kingston Rohrabacher Boehner Cramer Frelinghuysen Capuano Kind Pastor Deal (GA) Kirk Ros-Lehtinen Bonilla Crenshaw Gallegly Clay Kucinich Paul DeLay Kline Royce Bonner Crowley Garrett (NJ) Conyers Lee Payne Dent Knollenberg Ryan (WI) Bono Cubin Gerlach Davis (IL) Levin Rahall Diaz-Balart, L. Kolbe Ryun (KS) Boozman Cuellar Gibbons DeFazio Lewis (GA) Sabo Diaz-Balart, M. Kuhl (NY) Saxton Boren Culberson Gilchrest Delahunt Lofgren, Zoe Sanders Doolittle LaHood Schwarz (MI) Boswell Cunningham Gillmor Doggett Maloney Schakowsky Drake Latham Sensenbrenner Boucher Davis (AL) Gingrey Duncan Markey Scott (VA) Dreier LaTourette Sessions Boustany Davis (CA) Gohmert Farr McCollum (MN) Sensenbrenner Duncan Leach Shadegg Boyd Davis (FL) Gonzalez Filner McDermott Serrano Ehlers Lewis (CA) Shaw Bradley (NH) Davis (KY) Goodlatte Flake McGovern Slaughter Emerson Lewis (KY) Shays Brady (PA) Davis (TN) Gordon Frank (MA) McKinney Solis English (PA) Linder Sherwood Brady (TX) Davis, Jo Ann Granger Franks (AZ) McNulty Stark Everett LoBiondo Shimkus Brown (OH) Davis, Tom Graves Goode Meehan Stearns Feeney Lucas Shuster Brown, Corrine Deal (GA) Green (WI) Grijalva Miller (FL) Tancredo Ferguson Lungren, Daniel Simmons Brown-Waite, DeGette Green, Al Gutierrez Miller, George Taylor (MS) Fitzpatrick (PA) E. Simpson Ginny DeLauro Green, Gene Hastings (FL) Moran (VA) Tierney Flake Mack Smith (NJ) Burgess DeLay Gutknecht Hefley Nadler Vela´ zquez Foley Manzullo Smith (TX) Burton (IN) Dent Hall Hinchey Neal (MA) Visclosky

VerDate jul 14 2003 04:47 Jul 21, 2005 Jkt 039060 PO 00000 Frm 00064 Fmt 7634 Sfmt 0634 E:\CR\FM\A20JY7.060 H20JYPT1 July 20, 2005 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD — HOUSE H6173 Waters Watt Woolsey Goode Marshall Rothman NOT VOTING—16 Watson Wexler Wu Goodlatte Matheson Roybal-Allard Ackerman Cummings Knollenberg Gordon Matsui Royce NOT VOTING—4 Bass Davis (FL) Linder Graves McCarthy Ruppersberger Berman Dicks Sa´ nchez, Linda Brown (SC) Dicks Green (WI) McCaul (TX) Rush Boozman Granger T. Cummings Hinojosa Green, Al McCollum (MN) Ryan (OH) Brown (SC) Higgins Smith (WA) Green, Gene McCotter Ryan (WI) ANNOUNCEMENT BY THE SPEAKER PRO TEMPORE Coble Hinojosa Grijalva McCrery Ryun (KS) The SPEAKER pro tempore (during Gutierrez McDermott Sabo b 1845 the vote). Members are advised that 2 Gutknecht McGovern Salazar minutes remain in this vote. Hall McHenry Sanchez, Loretta So (two-thirds having voted in favor Harman McHugh Sanders thereof) the rules were suspended and Harris McIntyre Saxton b 1837 Hart McKeon the resolution, as amended, was agreed Schakowsky to. So the bill was passed. Hastings (FL) McKinney Schiff The result of the vote was announced Hastings (WA) McMorris Schwartz (PA) The result of the vote was announced Hayes McNulty Schwarz (MI) as above recorded. as above recorded. Hayworth Meehan Scott (GA) A motion to reconsider was laid on Hefley Meek (FL) A motion to reconsider was laid on Scott (VA) Hensarling Meeks (NY) the table. the table. Sensenbrenner Herger Melancon Serrano f Herseth Menendez f Sessions Hinchey Mica Shadegg CALLING FOR FREE AND FAIR Hobson Michaud REMOVAL OF NAME OF MEMBER Shaw Hoekstra Millender- AS COSPONSOR OF H.R. 3003 PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS IN Shays Holden McDonald THE REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN Sherman Mr. WAXMAN. Mr. Speaker, I ask Holt Miller (FL) Sherwood The SPEAKER pro tempore. The un- Honda Miller (MI) unanimous consent to have the name Shimkus Hooley Miller (NC) of the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. finished business is the question of sus- Shuster Hostettler Miller, Gary pending the rules and agreeing to the Simmons MORAN) removed as a cosponsor of H.R. Hoyer Miller, George 3003. resolution, H. Res. 326, as amended. Hulshof Mollohan Simpson The Clerk read the title of the resolu- Hunter Moore (KS) Skelton The SPEAKER pro tempore (Mr. Slaughter tion. Hyde Moore (WI) SIMPSON). Is there objection to the re- Inglis (SC) Moran (KS) Smith (NJ) The SPEAKER pro tempore. The Smith (TX) quest of the gentleman from Cali- Inslee Moran (VA) fornia? question is on the motion offered by Israel Murphy Snyder the gentlewoman from Florida (Ms. Issa Murtha Sodrel There was no objection. Istook Musgrave Solis ROS-LEHTINEN) that the House suspend f Jackson (IL) Myrick Souder the rules and agree to the resolution, Jackson-Lee Nadler Spratt H. Res. 326, as amended, on which the (TX) Napolitano Stark DR–CAFTA WILL BENEFIT yeas and nays are ordered. Jefferson Neal (MA) Stearns BUSINESSES AND WORKERS Strickland This will be a 5-minute vote. Jenkins Neugebauer (Mr. SHAW asked and was given per- Jindal Ney Stupak The vote was taken by electronic de- Johnson (CT) Northup Sullivan mission to address the House for 1 vice, and there were—yeas 416, nays 1, Johnson (IL) Norwood Sweeney minute and to revise and extend his re- not voting 16, as follows: Johnson, E. B. Nunes Tancredo marks.) Tanner [Roll No. 400] Johnson, Sam Nussle Mr. SHAW. Mr. Speaker, this evening Jones (NC) Oberstar Tauscher YEAS—416 Jones (OH) Obey Taylor (MS) I rise in support of the United States- Abercrombie Butterfield DeLauro Kanjorski Olver Taylor (NC) Dominican Republic-Central American Aderholt Buyer DeLay Kaptur Ortiz Terry Free Trade Agreement. This important Akin Calvert Dent Keller Osborne Thomas agreement will benefit the businesses Alexander Camp Diaz-Balart, L. Kelly Otter Thompson (CA) Allen Cannon Diaz-Balart, M. Kennedy (MN) Owens Thompson (MS) and workers not only in my district Andrews Cantor Dingell Kennedy (RI) Oxley Thornberry but also throughout the rest of Florida Baca Capito Doggett Kildee Pallone Tiahrt and, yes, indeed, the rest of this Na- Bachus Capps Doolittle Kilpatrick (MI) Pascrell Tiberi tion. Baird Capuano Doyle Kind Pastor Tierney Baker Cardin Drake King (IA) Payne Towns The high tech companies located in Baldwin Cardoza Dreier King (NY) Pearce Turner and around my district will imme- Barrett (SC) Carnahan Duncan Kingston Pelosi Udall (CO) diately benefit from the elimination of Barrow Carson Edwards Kirk Pence Udall (NM) duties and other barriers to trade. In Bartlett (MD) Carter Ehlers Kline Peterson (MN) Upton Barton (TX) Case Emanuel Kolbe Peterson (PA) Van Hollen addition, DR–CAFTA will protect the Bean Castle Emerson Kucinich Petri Vela´ zquez copyrights and intellectual property of Beauprez Chabot Engel Kuhl (NY) Pickering Visclosky those companies, thereby helping to Becerra Chandler English (PA) LaHood Pitts Walden (OR) spur innovation. Berkley Chocola Eshoo Langevin Platts Walsh Berry Clay Etheridge Poe Lantos Wamp The liberalization of services under Biggert Cleaver Evans Larsen (WA) Pombo Wasserman DR–CAFTA will make it easier for tele- Bilirakis Clyburn Everett Pomeroy Larson (CT) Schultz communication, transportation, and Bishop (GA) Cole (OK) Farr Latham Porter Waters Bishop (NY) Conaway Fattah LaTourette Price (GA) computer service companies located in Watson Bishop (UT) Conyers Feeney Leach Price (NC) my district to explore new business op- Watt Blackburn Cooper Ferguson Lee Pryce (OH) Waxman portunities in Central America and Do- Blumenauer Costa Filner Levin Putnam Weiner Blunt Costello Fitzpatrick (PA) Lewis (CA) Radanovich minican Republic. Further, increased Boehlert Cox Flake Lewis (GA) Rahall Weldon (FL) trade between Florida and DR–CAFTA Boehner Cramer Foley Lewis (KY) Ramstad Weldon (PA) countries will lead to increased busi- Weller Bonilla Crenshaw Forbes Lipinski Rangel ness for shippers and carriers moving Bonner Crowley Ford LoBiondo Regula Westmoreland Bono Cubin Fortenberry Lofgren, Zoe Rehberg Wexler goods in and out of the Ports of Palm Boren Cuellar Fossella Lowey Reichert Whitfield Beach, the Everglades and Ft. Lauder- Boswell Culberson Foxx Lucas Renzi Wicker dale and, yes, Port of Miami. Boucher Cunningham Frank (MA) Lungren, Daniel Reyes Wilson (NM) If we vote to approve DR–CAFTA we Boustany Davis (AL) Franks (AZ) E. Reynolds Wilson (SC) Boyd Davis (CA) Frelinghuysen Lynch Rogers (AL) Wolf ensure future American competitive- Bradley (NH) Davis (IL) Gallegly Mack Rogers (KY) Woolsey ness in Central America, the Domini- Brady (PA) Davis (KY) Garrett (NJ) Maloney Rogers (MI) Wu Brady (TX) Davis (TN) Gerlach can Republic and the continued growth Manzullo Rohrabacher Wynn of our economy. This will benefit my Brown (OH) Davis, Jo Ann Gibbons Marchant Ros-Lehtinen Young (AK) Brown, Corrine Davis, Tom Gilchrest Markey Ross Young (FL) constituents and all Americans. I urge Brown-Waite, Deal (GA) Gillmor my colleagues on both sides of the aisle Ginny DeFazio Gingrey NAYS—1 Burgess DeGette Gohmert to support this most important agree- Burton (IN) Delahunt Gonzalez Paul ment.

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