Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 1

House of Commons Education Committee Formal Minutes of the Committee Session 2017–19

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Tuesday 12 September 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Emma Hardy

1. Declaration of interests

Members declared their interests, in accordance with the Resolution of the House of 13 July 1992 (see Appendix 1).

2. Working methods

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the Committee examine witnesses in public, except where it otherwise orders.

Resolved, That witnesses who submit written evidence to the Committee are authorised to publish it on their own account in accordance with Standing Order No. 135, subject always to the discretion of the Chair or where the Committee otherwise orders.

Resolved, That the Committee shall not consider individual cases.

3. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee take oral evidence from the and its associated public bodies.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into fostering.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into alternative provision.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into value for money in higher education.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the quality of apprenticeships and skills training.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the integrity of public examinations.

[Adjourned till 10 October 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 10 October 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Michelle Donelan Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Mental health of children and young people—the role of education

Draft Special Report (Mental health of children and young people—the role of education: Government Response to the First Joint Report of the Education and Health Committees of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the First Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Apprenticeships

Draft Special Report (Apprenticeships: Government Response to the Second Joint Report of the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy and Education Committees of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Second Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

3. Multi-academy trusts

Draft Special Report (Multi-academy trusts: Government Response to the Committee’s Seventh Report of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Third Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

4. Careers education, information, advice and guidance

The Committee considered this matter. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 4

5. Fostering

The Committee considered this matter.

6. The integrity of public examinations

The Committee considered this matter.

7. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Chair and Trudy Harrison have leave to visit the Skills Show, Birmingham, in a representative capacity, in connection with this inquiry.

8. School funding

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till 17 October 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 17 October 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Careers education, information, advice and guidance

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Multi-academy trusts

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Exiting the EU: challenges and opportunities for higher education

Draft Special Report (Exiting the EU: challenges and opportunities for higher education: Government Response to the Committee’s Ninth Report of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Fourth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

4. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Fostering

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Professor Ray Jones (FOS0003) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Christina Brandi, Fostering Service Manager, Action for Children, Tay Jiva, Adoption and Fostering Manager, Penny Appeal, Alison Michalska, President, Association of Directors of Children’s Services, and Dr John Simmonds OBE, Director of Policy, Research and Development, CoramBAAF gave oral evidence.

Andy Elvin, Chief Executive, The Adolescent and Children’s Trust, Professor Ray Jones, Emeritus Professor of Social Work, Kingston University and St George’s, University of , Steve Miley, Director of Children’s Services, Hammersmith and Fulham Council, and Mark Douglas, Chief Operating Officer, Doncaster Children’s Services Trust gave oral evidence. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 6

[Adjourned till 25 October 2017 at 9.30 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 7

Wednesday 25 October 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Primary assessment

Draft Special Report (Primary assessment: Government Response to the Committee’s Eleventh Report of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Fifth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Rt Hon MP, Secretary of State for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 31 October 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 31 October 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy

1. Fostering

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Amanda Spielman, Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector of Education, Children’s Services and Skills, and Julius Weinberg, Chair, Ofsted, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 7 November 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 7 November 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

Fostering

The Committee considered this matter.

Rachel, Connor, and Luke Rodgers, young people with experience of care, gave oral evidence.

Robert Goodwill MP, Minister for Children and Families, and Katy Willison, Director of Children’s Social Care, Practice and Workforce, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 14 November 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 14 November 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith

1. Fostering

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Careers education, information, advice and guidance

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

John Ogden (VAL0001) Charlie Heywood-Heath (VAL0003) Central Careers Hub (VAL0004) Anonymous 1 (VAL0006) Dr Peter Knight (VAL0007) Mr Samuel Brook (VAL0008) Professor Ali Eftekhari (VAL0009) EEF - The Manufacturers’ Organisation (VAL0010) University of Nottingham (VAL0011) Dr Graeme Atherton (VAL0012) University of Derby (VAL0013) Anonymous 2 (VAL0014) Catholic Education Service (VAL0015) Professor Geoffrey Alderman (VAL016) Engineering Professors’ Council (VAL0017) Brightside (VAL0018) The Open University (VAL0019) Office of the Independent Adjudicator for Higher Education (VAL0020) UNISON - the public service union (VAL0021) Dr Mark Baimbridge (VAL0022) Middlesex University (VAL0023) GSM London (VAL0024) CIPD (VAL0025) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 11

Royal Historical Society (VAL0026) Dr Mark Loon (VAL0027) University of East Anglia (VAL0028) Universities and Colleges Employers Association (VAL0029) University of Sheffield Students’ Union (VAL0030) Association of Graduate Careers Advisory Services (VAL0031) Chartered Association of Business Schools (VAL0032) University and College Union (VAL0033) Jisc (VAL0034) Coventry University (VAL0035) Higher Education Commission (VAL0036) Southampton Solent University (VAL0037) University of Bedfordshire (VAL0038) University of Central Lancashire (VAL0039) Russell Group (VAL0041) Assurance Agency for Higher Education (VAL0042) Universities Scotland (VAL0043) University College London (VAL0044) Centre for Global Higher Education (VAL0045) Birkbeck College Parliamentary Studies Group (VAL0046) Guild HE (VAL0047) London South Bank University (VAL0048) University of Manchester (VAL0049) Association of School and College Leaders (VAL0050) Nottingham Trent University (VAL0051) British Association of Social Workers (VAL0052) HEFCE (VAL0053) Sutton Trust (VAL0054) University of Sheffield (VAL0055) Association of Colleges (VAL0056) CBI (VAL0057) MillionPlus (VAL0058) Department for Education (VAL0059) Education Policy Institute (VAL0060) University Alliance (VAL0061) Universities UK (VAL0063) University of Hertfordshire (VAL0064) University of Cambridge (VAL0065) University of Portsmouth (VAL0066 Mrs Estelle Clarke (VAL0068) Office for Students (VAL0069) Bright Blue (VAL0070) Committee of University Chairs (VAL0071) Destination for Education (VAL0072) Birkbeck, University of London (VAL0073) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 12

Which? (VAL0074) Chartered Management Institute (VAL0075) National Union of Students (VAL0076)

4. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Children’s Commissioner (SCR0001) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Anne Longfield OBE, Children’s Commissioner for , gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 21 November 2017 at 9.30 am

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Thursday 16 November 2017

The Chair and Trudy Harrison visited the Skills Show, Birmingham, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 10 October.

Tuesday 21 November 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Ofsted (SCR0002) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

Resolved, That the Committee jointly inquire into this matter with the Health Committee.

3. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

Professor David Berridge, Professor of Child & Family Welfare, University of Bristol, Kiran Gill, Founder, The Difference, and Philip Nye, Researcher, Education Datalab, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 28 November 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 28 November 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Michelle Donelan Thelma Walker James Frith William Wragg Ian Mearns

1. Evidence Check: Grammar schools

Draft Special Report (Evidence Check: Grammar schools: Government Response to the Committee’s Fourth Report of Session 2016–17), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

A paper was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Sixth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. The integrity of public examinations

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Ofqual (INT0001) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Barnaby Lenon, Chair, Independent Schools Council, Simon Henderson, Headmaster, Eton College, and Michael O’Sullivan, Chief Executive, Cambridge Assessment International Education, gave oral evidence.

Dr Michelle Meadows, Executive Director for Strategy, Risk and Research, Ofqual, Michael Turner, Director, Joint Council for Qualifications, and Professor Jo-Anne Baird, Director of the Department for Education, , gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 5 December 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 5 December 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg Ian Mearns

1. Fostering

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Value for money in higher education

Resolved, That the Committee visit the Warwick Manufacturing Group, Coventry, in connection with this inquiry.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Lord Agnew, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the School System, Sir David Carter, National Schools Commissioner, Vicky Beer, Regional Schools Commissioner for Lancashire and West Yorkshire, and John Edwards, Regional Schools Commissioner for East Midlands and the Humber, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 12 December 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 12 December 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Mr John Reilly (ALT0003) SSCYP (ALT0005) The Limes College (ALT0008) Leyland St. James' CE (Aided) Primary School Inclusion Services (ALT0009) Anonymous 2 (ALT0011) Pendlebury centre PRU (ALT0012) Head Teachers Round Table (ALT0013) The CE Academy (ALT0014) Ms Diana Robinson (ALT0016) PRUSAP (ALT0017) Circles Alt Ed Ltd (ALT0018) Pavilion Study Centre (ALT0019) Wac Arts College (ALT0020) Hospital and Outreach Education (ALT0021) North Herts Education Support Centre (ALT0022) Bridge Short Stay School (ALT0023) Acorn Academy Cornwall (ALT0024) London East Alternative Provision (ALT0025) The Hawkswood Group (ALT0026) Leeds City Council (ALT0027) Chaselea PRU (ALT0028) NAHT (ALT0029) Peterborough Pupil Referral Service (ALT0030) National Association of Hospital and Home Teaching (ALT0031) The Engage Trust (ALT0032) Teens and Toddlers (ALT0033) YMCA Training (ALT0034) Mrs Lynn Watson (ALT0035) Lancashire PRU Headteachers (ALT0036) CLIC Sargent (ALT0037) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 17

Moat House PRU (ALT0038) ADCS (ALT0039) Nurture Group Network (ALT0040) National Educational Union (ALT0041) New Schools Network (ALT0042) London South East Academies Trust (ALT0043) Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (ALT0044) Mr John Watkin (ALT0045) TBAP Multi Academy trust (ALT0046) Mr David Holloway OBE (ALT0047) Red Balloon Learner Centre Group (ALT0048) Red Balloon Learner Centre Group (ALT0049) Leeds City Council (ALT0050) Essex Youthbuild (ALT0051) Nottingham Centre for Children, Young People and Families, Nottingham Trent University (ALT0052) Leeds City College (ALT0053) Association of Youth Offending Team Managers (ALT0055) Dr Pat Thomson (ALT0056) NASUWT (ALT0057) Department for Education (ALT0058) Education Links (ALT0059) Association of Child and Adolescent Mental Health (ALT0060) National Association of Virtual School Heads (ALT0061) LKMco (ALT0062) Catch22 (ALT0063) Mr Paul Devereux (ALT0064) NISAI (ALT0065) Essex Youth Offending Service (ALT0066) Mrs Lorraine Thompson (ALT0067) Association of Educational Psychologists (ALT0068) Nacro (ALT0069) St Georges Academy (ALT0070) Association of Colleges (ALT0071) AP Network (ALT0072) Tute Education Limited (ALT0073) Independent Parental Special Education Advice (ALT0074) Ms Joanne Southby (ALT0078) Office of the Children's Commissioner (ALT0079) Young Enterprise (ALT0080) Driver Youth Trust (ALT0081) The Prince's Trust (ALT0082) Mrs Liz Hyman (ALT0083) Essex County Council (ALT0084) Individio Media Limited (ALT0085) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 18

Mrs Annalise Price-Thomas (ALT0086) Manchester Metropolitan University (ALT0087) TLG - Transforming Lives for Good (ALT0088) SCHOOLS NorthEast (ALT0089) Association of School and College Leaders (ALT0090) Ofsted (ALT0091) Centre for Social Justice (ALT0092) Special Educational Consortium (ALT0093) The Difference (ALT0094) ForcesWatch (ALT0095) Open Road West Norfolk Trust (ALT0096)

2. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

Sam Brook, Warwick University graduate, Aaron Oreschnick, degree apprentice, Manchester Metropolitan University, Polly Tyler, Nottingham Trent University student, and Taylor McGraa, Education Officer, Goldsmiths Students' Union, gave oral evidence.

Nicola Dandridge, Chief Executive, Office for Students, Amatey Doku, Vice President (Higher Education), National Union of Students, and Conor Ryan, Director of Research and Communications, Sutton Trust, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 19 December 2017 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 19 December 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Appointment of the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Sally Collier, Chief Regulator, and Roger Taylor, Chair, Ofqual, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 20 December 2017 at 9 am

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Wednesday 20 December 2017

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison

1. Fostering

Draft Report (Fostering) proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to, the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the First Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19 (HC 340).

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till 9 January 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 9 January 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. The integrity of public examinations

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Careers education, information, advice and guidance

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till 16 January 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 16 January 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

National Numeracy (VAL0077) Michael Nisbet (VAL0078) Joseph Cowell (VAL0079)

2. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

The Committee considered this matter.

Joe Dromey, Senior Research Fellow, IPPR, Dr Carole Easton, Chief Executive, Young Women’s Trust, and Dr Lee Elliot Major, Chief Executive, Sutton Trust, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 23 January 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 23 January 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker

1. Working methods

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Richard Atkins, FE Commissioner, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

Rt Hon Alan Milburn, former Chair, Rt Hon Baroness Shephard, former Deputy Chair, and David Johnston, former Commissioner, Social Mobility Commission, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 30 January 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 30 January 2018

The Education and Health Committees met concurrently.

Members present:

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell Robert Halfon Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison

The following members of the Health Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A).

Luciana Berger Andrew Selous Dr Lisa Cameron Dr Paul Williams Rosie Cooper Dr Sarah Wollaston Diana Johnson

Robert Halfon was called to the Chair in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 137A(1)(d).

Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Association of Child Psychotherapists (SGP0002) NAHT (SGP0003) Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (SGP0004) Barnardo's (SGP0005) Association of Colleges (SGP0006) Education Policy Institute (SGP0007) Children's Commissioner's Office (SGP0008) Triple P (SGP0009) National Children's Bureau (SGP0010) Carers Trust (SGP0011) Action for Children (SGP0012) Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health (SGP0013) PSHE Association (SGP0014) The Howard League (SGP0015) CYPMH Coalition (SGP0016) Royal College of Psychiatrists (SGP0017) Centre for Mental Health (SGP0018) Association of Educational Psychologists (SGP0019) Place2Be (SGP0020) Local Government Association (SGP0021) NSPCC (SGP0022) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 25

Bethlem & Maudsley Hospital School (SGP0023) Dr Zoe Brownlie (SGP0024) The Children's Society (SGP0025) Department for Education (SGP0026) British Psychological Society (SGP0027) YoungMinds (SGP0028) Youth Access (SGP0029) Universities UK (SGP0030) Ofsted (SGP0031) Public Health England (SGP0032) Health Education England (SGP0033) British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy (SGP0034)

Anne Longfield OBE, Children's Commissioner for England, Dr Pooky Knightsmith, Vice Chair, Children and Young People's Mental Health Coalition, and Rowan Munson, former member, Youth Select Committee, gave oral evidence.

Paul Whiteman, General Secretary, National Association of Head Teachers, Stuart Rimmer, CEO and Principal, East Coast College, Dr Bernadka Dubicka, Chair, Child & Adolescent Faculty at Royal College of Psychiatrists, and Professor Tamsin Ford, Professor of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, University of Exeter, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 6 February 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 6 February 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Appointment of the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the future of the Social Mobility Commission.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into education in the north.

3. Ofqual Supplementary Estimate 2017–18

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofqual on its Supplementary Estimate for 2017– 18 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Accountability hearings

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Department for Education (SCR0003) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

5. European Scrutiny Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

6. Backbench Business Committee

The Committee considered this matter.

7. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

Matthew Dodd, Co-coordinator and Policy Advisor, Special Educational Consortium, Cath Kitchen, Chair, National Association of Hospital and Home Teaching, and Jane Pickthall, Chair, National Association of Virtual School Heads, gave oral evidence.

Dr Val Gillies, Professor of Social Policy and Criminology, University of Westminster, Kevin Kibble, CEO, The Nurture Group Network, and Drew Povey, Headteacher, Harrop Fold School, gave oral evidence. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 27

[Adjourned till 7 February 2018 at 9.15 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 28

Wednesday 7 February 2018

The Education and Health Committees met concurrently.

Members present:

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Robert Halfon William Wragg

The following members of the Health Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A).

Luciana Berger Dr Paul Williams Dr Lisa Cameron Dr Sarah Wollaston

Dr Sarah Wollaston was called to the Chair in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 137A(1)(d).

Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

The Children's Sleep Charity (SGP0035) Children's Commissioner for England (SGP0036)

Claire Murdoch, National Mental Health Director, NHS England, Professor Tim Kendall, National Clinical Director for Mental health, NHS England, and Professor Lisa Bayliss-Pratt, Chief Nurse and Interim Regional Director for London and the South East, Health Education England, gave oral evidence.

Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister for School Standards, Department for Education, Jackie Doyle-Price MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Mental Health and Inequalities, Department of Health and Social Care, Jonathan Marron, Director General of Community Care, Department of Health and Social Care, and Ann Gross, Director of Special Needs, Children in Care and Adoption, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 21 February 2018 at 9 am

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Wednesday 21 February 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker

1. Working methods

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Chair has leave to visit in a representative capacity:

Royal Albert and Alexandra State Boarding School, Reigate Catch 22 and KPMG, London University of Bedfordshire, Luton University of Huddersfield Nottingham Trent University West Suffolk College, Bury Saint Edmunds Hertfordshire University, Hatfield Westside School, London Middlesex University, London

Resolved, That the Chair and Lucy Allan have leave to visit Telford College, in a representative capacity.

Resolved, That the Chair and Thelma Walker have leave to visit Action for Children, Norfolk, in a representative capacity.

2. Ofsted Supplementary Estimate 2017–18

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofsted on its Supplementary Estimate for 2017– 18 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Department for Education Supplementary Estimate 2017–18

Ordered, That the memorandum from Department for Education on its Supplementary Estimate for 2017–18 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Teachers’ Pension Scheme Supplementary Estimate 2017–18

Ordered, That the memorandum from Teachers’ Pension Scheme on its Supplementary Estimate for 2017–18 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

5. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 30

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Media Training Ltd (VAL0080) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Professor Edward Peck, Vice-Chancellor, Nottingham Trent University, Peter Horrocks CBE, Vice-Chancellor, Open University, Professor Dame Janet Beer, Vice-Chancellor, University of Liverpool, Professor Chris Husbands, Vice-Chancellor, Sheffield Hallam University, and Professor Louise Richardson, Vice-Chancellor, University of Oxford, gave oral evidence.

Barnard, Chief Executive, Edge Foundation, Julian Gravatt, Deputy Chief Executive, Association of Colleges, and Alistair Jarvis, Chief Executive, Universities UK, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 27 February 2018 at 9.30 am

Thursday 22 February 2018

The Chair visited Royal Albert and Alexandra State Boarding School, Reigate, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Monday 26 February 2018

The Chair, Lucy Allan, Emma Hardy, Trudy Harrison, Ian Mearns and Lucy Powell visited the Warwick Manufacturing Group, Coventry, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 5 December.

Tuesday 27 February 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison James Frith Ian Mearns Emma Hardy Lucy Powell

1. Working methods.

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

British Association of Social Workers (SGP0037) Mrs Joan Franklin (SGP0038) Association of School and College Leaders (SGP0039) NHS Providers (SGP0040) Edmonton Academy Trust (SGP0041) Equality and Human Rights Commission (SGP0042) The Daily Mile Foundation (SGP0043)

3. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Paul Devoy, Chief Executive, Investors in People, Jane Gratton, Head of Business Environment and Skills Policy, British Chambers of Commerce, Kevin Rowan, Head of Organisation, Services and Skills, TUC, and Tim Thomas, Director of Employment and Skills Policy, EEF - The Manufacturers' Organisation, gave oral evidence.

4. Value for money in higher education

Professor Ian Marshall, Deputy Vice-Chancellor, Coventry University, Dr Claire Crawford, Assistant Professor of Economics, University of Warwick, and Dr Gavan Conlon, Partner, London Economics, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 6 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 6 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

HIT Training Ltd (QUA0001) Kaplan Financial (QUA0002) Mr John Phillips (QUA0003) National Deaf Children's Society (QUA0004) Mr Andy Forbes (QUA0005) British Constructional Steelwork Association (QUA0006) Construction Industry Training Board (QUA0007) London South Bank University (QUA0008) Central YMCA (QUA0009) Council of Deans of Health (QUA0010) WorldSkills UK (QUA0011) University of Central Lancashire (QUA0012) Gateshead College (QUA0013) Corndel Ltd (QUA0014) Manchester Metropolitan University (QUA0015) YMCA England & Wales (QUA0016) EEF, the manufacturers organisation (QUA0017) UK Fashion & Textile Association (QUA0018) Leonard Cheshire Disability (QUA0020) Lifetime Training (QUA0021) The Children's Society (QUA0022) Greater Manchester Learning Provider Network (QUA0023) Science Industry Partnership (QUA0024) Jane Lowe and Ann Minton, University of Derby (QUA0025) Semta (QUA0026) Universities UK (QUA0027) Royal Society of Chemistry (QUA0028) TUC (QUA0030) NOCN (QUA0031) Microsoft Ltd (QUA0032) The Gatwick Diamond Initiative Ltd (QUA0033) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 33

The Welding Institute (QUA0034) KPMG UK (QUA0035) UVAC (QUA0036) MillionPlus (QUA0037) Sutton Trust (QUA0038) Association of Employment and Learning Providers (QUA0039) Royal College of(QUA0040) Movement to Work (QUA0041) Sheffield Hallam University (QUA0042) Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (QUA0043) Develop Your Child CIC (QUA0044) City of London Corporation (QUA0045) University College of Estate Management (QUA0046) Galvanizers Association (QUA0047) Association of Colleges (QUA0048) Moto Hospitality Ltd (QUA0049) Chartered Institution for Further Education (QUA0050) National Union of Students (QUA0051) Association of Licensed Multiple Retailers (QUA0052) Child Soldiers International (QUA0053) Royal Society of Biology (QUA0054) Middlesex University (QUA0055) Impetus-PEF (QUA0056) Adventure Activities Licensing Service (QUA0057) Centre for Vocational Education Research (QUA0058) Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development (QUA0059) Warwickshire College (WCG) (QUA0060) National Hairdressers Federation (QUA0061) Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education (QUA0062) NHS Employers (QUA0063) Policy Connect (QUA0064) University Alliance (QUA0065) Freight Transport Association (QUA0066) MiddletonMurray (QUA0067) British Institute of Facilities Management (QUA0068) Chartered Society of Physiotherapy (QUA0069) Campaign for Science and Engineering (QUA0070) The 5% Club (QUA0071) The Open University (QUA0072) University of Brighton (QUA0073) Industry Qualifications (QUA0074) British Chambers of Commerce (QUA0078) Jisc (QUA0079) Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry (QUA0080) Birkbeck, University of London (QUA0081) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 34

Chartered Management Institute (QUA0082) University of Kent (QUA0083) HEFCE (QUA0084) Learning & Work Institute (QUA0085) Barnardo’s (QUA0086) Institute for Apprenticeships (QUA0087) Ofsted (QUA0088) Department for Education (QUA0089) Whitbread (QUA0090) Investors in People (QUA0091)

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Alternative provision

Resolved, That the Committee visit Newhaven School, London, in connection with this inquiry.

Claire George, Head of Service, Peterborough Pupil Referral Service, Ralph Holloway, Transformation of SEN Services Manager, Essex County Council, and David Whitaker, Founding Member, Headteachers’ Roundtable, gave oral evidence.

Colin Jeffery, Fairbridge and Achieve Programme Manager, The Prince’s Trust, Emma Bradshaw, Headteacher, The Limes College, Chaz Walton, Director, SILC Training, and Joanne Southby, Executive Head, London South East Academies Trust, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 7 March 2018 at 9 am

Thursday 8 March 2018

The Chair visited Catch 22 and KPMG, London, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Wednesday 7 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Amanda Spielman, Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector, Ofsted, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 13 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 13 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg Ian Mearns

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Stephen Evans, Chief Executive, Learning and Work Institute, Graham Hasting-Evans, Managing Director, NOCN, Neil Heslop OBE, Chief Executive, Leonard Cheshire Disability, and Nick Linford, Editor, FE Week, gave oral evidence.

Dr Alison Birkinshaw OBE, President, Association of Colleges, Angela Middleton, Chief Executive, MiddletonMurray, and Simon Hawthorn, Leadership Team, National Society of Apprentices, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 14 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 14 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. The integrity of public examinations

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee take the evidence to be given on Tuesday 20 March in private.

3. Accountability hearings

Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, and Katy Willison, Director of Children’s Social Care, Practice and Workforce, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 20 March 2018 at 9 am

Thursday 15 March 2018

The Chair visited University of Bedfordshire, Luton, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Tuesday 20 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. The future of the Social Mobility Commission

Draft Report (The future of the Social Mobility Commission) proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to, the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Second Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19 (HC 866).

2. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rachel Briggs (SGP0045) Nurture Group Network (SGP0046) Maternal Mental Health Alliance (SGP0047)

3. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by White Hat (QUA0093) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

The public withdrew, in accordance with the Committee’s Resolution of 14 March.

Young people with experience of alternative provision, gave oral evidence.

Parents with experience of their children being in alternative provision, gave oral evidence.

Ordered, That the public be now re-admitted.

[Adjourned till 21 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 21 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

Accountability hearings

Rt Hon MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 27 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 27 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Essex County Council (ALT0097) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. The future of the Social Mobility Commission

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Value for money in higher education

Professor Sir Ian Diamond, Chair, Independent review of higher education funding and student finance arrangements in Wales, Professor Anna Vignoles, Professor of Education and Director of Research, Faculty of Education, University of Cambridge, and Stuart Cannell, Member of the student panel, Office for Students, gave oral evidence.

Sir Michael Barber, Chair, Office for Students, gave oral evidence

[Adjourned till 28 March 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 28 March 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Working methods

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into special educational needs and disabilities.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into school and college funding.

[Adjourned till 17 April 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 17 April 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Pool Academy (ALT0098) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Jules Daulby, Director of Education, Driver Youth Trust, Dr Louise Gazeley, Senior Lecturer in Education, University of Sussex, and Dr Marion Gillooly, Head of Strategic Development & Innovation, Includem, gave oral evidence.

2. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

The Open University (QUA0094) Patrick Tucker (QUA0095) Chartered Association of Business Schools (QUA0096)

Mark Dawe, Chief Executive, Association of Employment and Learning Providers, Petra Wilton, Director of Strategy and External Affairs, Chartered Management Institute, and Andrée Deane Barron, Group Education and Central Skills Director, Central YMCA, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 24 April 2018 at 9.30 am

Wednesday 18 April 2018

The Chair, Lucy Allan, James Frith, Emma Hardy, Trudy Harrison, Ian Mearns, Thelma Walker and William Wragg visited Newhaven School, London, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 6 March.

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Tuesday 24 April 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into life chances.

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into the Fourth industrial revolution.

2. Fourth industrial revolution

Resolved, That the Committee visit the Dyson Institute, Malmesbury, in connection with this inquiry.

3. Department for Education Main Estimate 2018–19

Ordered, That the memorandum from Department for Education on its Main Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Teachers’ Pension Scheme Main Estimate 2018–19

Ordered, That the memorandum from Teachers’ Pension Scheme on its Main Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

5. Value for money in higher education

Sam Gyimah MP, Minister for Universities, Science, Research and Innovation, Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy and the Department for Education, and Philippa Lloyd, Director General for Higher and Further Education, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 25 April 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 25 April 2018

The Education and Health and Social Care Committees met concurrently.

Members present:

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell Robert Halfon Thelma Walker Emma Hardy

The following members of the Health Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A).

Dr Lisa Cameron Martin Vickers Rosie Cooper Dr Paul Williams Johnny Mercer Dr Sarah Wollaston Andrew Selous

Dr Sarah Wollaston was called to the Chair in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 137A(1)(d).

Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Children's Rights Alliance for England (SGP0048) Rowan Munson (SGP0049)

Draft Report (The Government’s Green Paper on mental health: failing a generation) proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to, the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Third Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19 (HC 642).

[Adjourned till 1 May 2018 at 9 am

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Tuesday 1 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Working methods

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Home education

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Future programme

Resolved, That the Committee inquire into nursing apprenticeships.

5. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology, Japan (ATT099) Ministry of Education, Singapore (AT0100) Ministry of Education and Research, Norway (AT0101) Ministry of Education and Culture, Finland (AT0102) Ministry of National Education, Poland (AT0103) Stuart Gallimore, President, Association of Directors of Children’s Services, Sue Morris- King, Senior HMI, Ofsted, and Kevin Courtney, Joint General Secretary, NEU, gave oral evidence.

Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister for School Standards, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 2 May 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 2 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell

Education in the north

Rt Hon George Osborne, Chair, Lord Jim O’Neill, Vice-Chair and Henri Murison, Director, Northern Powerhouse Partnership, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 9 May 2018 at 9.30 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 47

Wednesday 9 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Ofsted Main Estimate 2018–19

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofsted on its Main Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Ofqual Main Estimate 2018–19

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofqual on its Main Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Transforming children and young people’s mental health provision

The Committee considered this matter.

6. Education in the north

The Committee considered this matter.

7. The future of the Social Mobility Commission

The Committee considered this matter.

8. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Federation of Master Builders (QUA0097) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Hannah Cuthbert, Business Administration Apprentice, University of Hull, Gavin Garner, Caretaker Apprentice, Hull City Council, Cheryl Sedgwick, Employer Liaison and Partnership Development Lead, and Lisa Shepherdson, Deputy Manager, Hull Training and Adult Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 15 May 2018 at 9.30 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 48

Friday 10 May 2018

The Chair visited Nottingham Trent University in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Tuesday 15 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by University Alliance (QUA0098) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Sir Gerry Berragan, Chief Executive, Institute for Apprenticeships, Paul Joyce, Deputy Director for Further Education & Skills Ofsted, and Keith Smith, Director of Apprenticeships, Education and Skills Funding Agency, gave oral evidence.

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills, and Rory Kennedy, Director of Apprenticeships, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 16 May 2018 at 9.30 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 50

Wednesday 16 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Emma Hardy Ian Mearns Trudy Harrison Lucy Powell

Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Claudia Harris, Chief Executive, and Christine Hodgson, Chair, Careers & Enterprise Company, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 22 May 2018 at 9.30 am

Friday 18 May 2018

The Chair visited Hertfordshire University, Hatfield, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Tuesday 22 May 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Working methods

Resolved, That the Chair have leave to visit the Woburn House, London, in a representative capacity.

2. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Chartered Institute of Marketing (QUA0099) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Pool Academy (ALT0104) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister for School Standards, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 5 June 2018 at 9.30 am

Wednesday 23 May 2018

The Chair visited Woburn House, London, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 22 May.

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Tuesday 5 June 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Careers and Enterprise Company (SCR0004) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Alternative provision

Resolved, That the Emma Hardy and Ian Mearns have leave to visit SILC Training, London, in a representative capacity, in connection with this inquiry.

3. Nursing apprenticeships

Dr Katerina Kolyva, Executive Director, Council of Deans of Health, Danny Mortimer, Chief Executive, NHS Employers, Janet Davies, Chief Executive & General Secretary, Royal College of Nursing, and Theresa Britt, Head of Stakeholder Engagement and Product Development Project Manager for Apprenticeships, The Open University, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 12 June 2018 at 9.30 am

Thursday 7 June 2018

The Chair visited Westside School, London, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Tuesday 12 June 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Anonymous 4 (ALT0105) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Life chances

Liz Bayram, Chief Executive, Professional Association for Childcare and Early Years, Sara Bonetti, Associate Director of Early Years, Education Policy Institute, Beatrice Merrick, Chief Executive, Early Education, and Professor Dominic Wyse, Professor of Early Childhood and Primary Education, UCL Institute of Education, gave oral evidence.

Sir Kevan Collins, Chief Executive, Education Endowment Foundation, Laura McFarlane, Director of the LEAP Programme, National Children’s Bureau, Steven McIntosh, Director of UK Poverty Policy, Advocacy and Campaigns, Save the Children, and Professor Edward Melhuish, Professor of Human Development, University of Oxford, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 19 June 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 19 June 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg Lucy Powell

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Fourth industrial revolution

Resolved, That the Committee visit the Stuttgart, , and Zurich and Lausanne, Switzerland, in connection with this inquiry, and that the Chair seek the approval of the Liaison Committee for expenditure in connection with the visit.

3. Value for money in higher education

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the University of Essex (VAL0082) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Nursing apprenticeships

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Council of Deans of Health (NWF0001) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

5. School and college funding

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Frank Field MP (FUN0001) Bath & North East Somerset Branch of the NAHT (FUN0003) St Nicholas CE Primary School (FUN0004) Great Harwood St Bartholomew's Parish C of E Aided Primary School (FUN0005) Professor Michael Bassey (FUN0007) Chesham Primary School (FUN0009) Rawlins Academy (FUN0011) Brent National Education Union (FUN0014) Campaign for State Education (FUN0015) Essex County Council (FUN0016) Martin Matthews (FUN0017) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 55

Manningtree High School (FUN0018) NCFE (FUN0019) Grammar School Heads’ Association (FUN0020) Early Education (FUN0021) Islington Council and Schools Forum (FUN0022) Alne Primary School Governing Body (FUN0024) Ambitious about Autism (FUN0025) Association of Colleges (FUN0026) Gateshead College (FUN0027) Bristol City Council (FUN0028) Fen Drayton Primary School (FUN0029) Fair Funding for All Schools (FUN0030) Hinchley Wood School (FUN0032) Hoylandswaine Primary School (FUN0033) Woodhouse West Primary School (FUN0035) Mr Brett Colley (FUN0036) Cambridgeshire Schools Forum (FUN0037) British Educational Suppliers Association (FUN0038) St Laurence School (FUN0039) f40 Group of Authorities (FUN0040) Sixth Form Colleges Association (FUN0041) Northamptonshire County Council (FUN0042) Norfolk County Council (FUN0043) Burton and South Derbyshire College (FUN0044) Mr John Eccleston (FUN0047) The Netherhall School and Sixth Form (FUN0049) Mr Paul Atkinson (FUN0050) Devon County Council (FUN0051) IPSEA (FUN0053) NAHT (FUN0054) Local Government Association (FUN0055) National Foundation for Educational Research (FUN0056) School Financial Success (FUN0057) National Union of Students (FUN0058) Ark (FUN0059) Hampshire County Council (FUN0060) North Yorkshire County Council (FUN0061) Staffordshire County Council (FUN0062) Education Policy Institute (FUN0064) Association of Directors of Children's Services (FUN0065) National Deaf Children's Society (FUN0066) WEA (FUN0067) SSCYP (FUN0069) Catholic Education Service (FUN0070) Robert May's School (FUN0071) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 56

Norfolk Governance Network (FUN0072) National Education Union (FUN0073) Sutton Trust and Education Endowment Foundation (FUN0074) The Publishers Association (FUN0075) County Councils Network (FUN0076) Milton Keynes College (FUN0077) Cambridgeshire County Council (FUN0078) National Governance Association (FUN0079) Derby College (FUN0080) UNISON (FUN0081) Institute for Fiscal Studies (FUN0082) School of Education, University of Birmingham (FUN0083) Mrs Lisa Hill (FUN0084) Surrey County Council (FUN0085) University of the Arts London (FUN0086) Morris Education Trust (FUN0087) Mrs Sarah Chambers (FUN0088) Cumbria County Council (FUN0089) Save Our Schools, Brighton and Hove (FUN0090) Lindridge St Lawrence CE Primary (FUN0091) London Councils (FUN0094) Thomas Pocklington Trust and RNIB (FUN0095) Jisc (FUN0096) Warrington Borough Council (FUN0097) Effervesce (FUN0098) Department for Education (FUN0099)

Natalie Perera, Executive Director, Education Policy Institute, Luke Sibieta, Research Fellow, Institute for Fiscal Studies, and Angela Donkin, Chief Social Scientist, National Foundation for Educational Research, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 27 June 2018 at 9 am

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Tuesday 26 June 2018

Emma Hardy and Ian Mearns visited SILC Training, London, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 5 June.

Wednesday 27 June 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Michelle Donelan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Nursing apprenticeships

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

NHS Employers (NWF0002) Royal College of Nursing (NWF0003) 2. Value for money in higher education

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Dr Louise Bunce (VAL0083) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Life chances

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Westover Little Stars (LIF0001) Dr Maria Kambouri-Danos (LIF0002) Foundation Years Trust (LIF0003) Nottingham Centre for Children, Young People and Families, Nottingham Trent University (LIF0004) CACHE (LIF0005) Early Education (LIF0006) Local Government Association (LIF0008) Auditory Verbal UK (LIF0009) Professor Tom Burkard (LIF0010) Luton Borough Council (LIF0011) NASUWT (LIF0012) Catholic Education Service (LIF0013) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 58

Big Lottery Fund (LIF0014) Family Links (LIF0015) Mr Robin Thomas (LIF0016) Early Intervention Foundation (LIF0017) EasyPeasy (LIF0018) London Councils (LIF0019) I CAN (LIF0022) Nuffield Foundation (LIF0023) University of Essex (LIF0024) Centre for Longitudinal Studies, UCL Institute of Education (LIF0025) Pre-school Learning Alliance (LIF0026) Army Families Federation (LIF0027) Strong Start for All Children (LIF0028) National Children's Bureau (LIF0029) TACTYC (LIF0030) The Bell Foundation (LIF0031) Save the Children (LIF0032) ESRC International Centre for Lifecourse Studies (LIF0034) Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (LIF0035) University of Essex (LIF0036) Northern Housing Consortium (LIF0037) Professor Eva Lloyd (LIF0039) Sutton Trust (LIF0040) National Literacy Trust (LIF0041) The Communication Trust (LIF0042) WAVE Trust (LIF0043) Rt Hon Frank Field MP (LIF0045) Action for Children (LIF0046) Mrs Emer Mander-O'Beirne (LIF0047) Association of Educational Psychologists (LIF0049) Education Policy Institute (LIF0050) Summer Born Campaign (LIF0051) Chartered College of Teaching (LIF0052) CLOSER (LIF0053) Bright Blue (LIF0054) NDNA (LIF0055) GMCA (LIF0056) Ofsted (LIF0057) Department for Education (LIF0058) Triple P (LIF0059) West Sussex County Council (LIF0060) Early Childhood Studies Degrees Network (LIF0061) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 59

Mrs Michelle Moore (LIF0063) Helen Hamlyn Centre for Pedagogy, UCL Institute of Education (LIF0064) Children First (LIF0066)

4. Education in the north

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee visit Rotherham and Greater Manchester, in connection with this inquiry.

5. Accountability hearings

Rt Hon Damian Hinds MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 3 July 2018 at 9.30 am

Thursday 28 June 2018

The Chair visited Middlesex University, London, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Tuesday 3 July 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. School and college funding

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by WorthLess? (FUN0100) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Life chances

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Save the Children (LIF0067) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Stephen Kingdom, Campaign Manager, Disabled Children’s Partnership, Brian Lamb OBE, Chair, Inquiry into Parental Confidence in Special Educational Needs, and Rt Hon Baroness Warnock, Chair, Committee of Inquiry on Special Educational Needs, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 10 July 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 10 July 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker

1. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Ministry of Education and Research, Sweden (ATL0106) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Special educational needs and disabilities

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Peak School (SCN0014) Dr Lorna Selfe (SCN0039) Henry Tyndale School (SCN0041) Julie King (SCN0051) Down Syndrome Training & Support Service ltd (SCN0053) Mrs Wendy Janes (SCN0058) Mr Simeon Elliott (SCN0059) WILD Young Parents Project (SCN0062) Mrs Kristin Dockar (SCN0066) Our Barn Carers Project (SCN0067) Gloucester House – Tavistock children's day unit (SCN0071) Brinsworth Academy (SCN0072) Temple Hill Primary School (SCN0076) Ashton Sixth Form College (SCN0086) Mr Myles Pilling (SCN0088) Dr Alan Marsh (SCN0098) Dr Cath Lowther (SCN0099) Action Cerebral Palsy (SCN0103) Scott Brooks (SCN0106) NASENCO students, Manchester Metropolitan University (SCN0110) More House Foundation (SCN0122) St Martin's Governing Body (SCN0128) Mrs Kathleen Richardson (SCN0130) Roehampton University (SCN0132) Dr Simon Gibbs (SCN0133) Mrs Penny Earl (SCN0136) Acorns School (SCN0137) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 62

NASUWT (SCN0139) Hampshire Special School Headteachers Group (SCN0145) Gloucestershire Special School Headteachers (SCN0146) Pre-school Learning Alliance (SCN0147) The Education Alliance (SCN0152) Openstorytellers Limited (SCN0156) West Midlands SEND Forum (SCN0161) Matt Keer (SCN0167) Mrs Julie Medhurst (SCN0170) Christopher Robertson (SCN0176) Ms Nancy Gedge (SCN0179) National Association of Independent Schools and Non-Maintained Special Schools (SCN0183) North Yorkshire County Council (SCN0185) Max Fishel (SCN0186) Carlisle Rural South SENCO Cluster (SCN0189) Isle of Wight CC SEN Service (SCN0194) Local Government Association (SCN0195) Mr Shaun Jukes (SCN0196) Mr Paul Silvester (SCN0198) National Network of Parent Carer Forums (SCN0199) The Milestone School, Gloucester (SCN0205) Headteachers' Roundtable (SCN0208) London Borough of Brent (SCN0209) Jisc (SCN0212) Carlisle College (SCN0213) Morris Education Trust (SCN0214) Achievement for All (SCN0216) British Association of Teachers of the Deaf (SCN0217) UNISON (SCN0211) PDA Society (SCN0223) Beams (SCN0224) Spring Common Academy (SCN0225) Cornwall Council (SCN0226) St Martin's C of E Primary and Nursery School (SCN0227) SEN Day by Day (SCN0235) The View Trust (SCN0236) St. Joseph's Specialist School & College (SCN0237) Special Educational Needs and Disabilities Information Advice and Support Service Board (SCN0242) National Education Union (SCN0252) Association of School and College Leaders (SCN0265) Mr Peter Armitage (SCN0268) Love to Learn (SCN0275) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 63

Yorkshire Rose Dyslexia (SCN0279) Professor Lucinda Platt (SCN0288) Afasic (SCN0292) Healthwatch Essex (SCN0295) Dr Jane Oliver (SCN0298) Independent Schools Council (SCN0299) National Association of Head Teachers (SCN0301) Mr Dean Beadle (SCN0306) National Star (SCN0310) Foreland Fields School (SCN0313) Education and Children’s Services Group, Prospect (SCN0315) Mrs I Lyngborg (SCN0316) Oxfordshire County Council (SCN0317) East Riding of Yorkshire Council (SCN0319) Simpson Millar (SCN0320) SENBax Consulting (SCN0321) New College Worcester (SCN0338) Trainee Educational Psychologists at Newcastle University (SCN0340) nurtureuk (SCN0342) Karten Network (SCN0343) Carers Trust (SCN0512) New College Durham (SCN0516) Transition2 (SCN0517) North Lincolnshire Council (SCN0527) David Bateson OBE (SCN0531) Department for Education and Department for Health and Social Care (SCN0583) Kent County Council (SCN0592) Policy Connect (SCN0593) West Sussex County Council (SCN0594) Parents in Need (SCN0595) Ofsted (SCN0598) YoungMinds (SCN0601) 3. Education in the north

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Appointment of the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission

The Committee considered this matter. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 64

6. Life chances

Bob Reitemeier, Chief Executive, I CAN, Dr Kitty Stewart, Associate Professor of Social Policy, London School of Economics and Political Science, and Dr Shirley Woods- Gallagher, Strategic Lead, Reform and Innovation, Manchester City Council, gave oral evidence

Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary-Under Secretary of State for Children and Families, Department for Education, and Michelle Dyson, Director of Early Years and Childcare, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 11 July 2018 at 9 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 65

Wednesday 11 July 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker

Appointment of the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission

Dame Martina Milburn CBE, the Government's preferred candidate for Chair of the Social Mobility Commission, gave oral evidence.

The Committee considered this matter.

Draft Report (Appointment of the Chair of the Social Mobility Commission), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fourth Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19, (HC 1048).

[Adjourned till 17 July 2018 at 9 am

Thursday 12 July 2018

The Chair, Lucy Allan and Michelle Donelan visited the Dyson Institute, Malmesbury, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 24 April.

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Tuesday 17 July 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Michelle Donelan Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Education in the north

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Immigration

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Alternative provision

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Mr William Ross (ATL0107) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

5. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by Develop Your Child CIC (QUA0100) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

6. Special educational needs and disabilities

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Mrs Sarah Riley (SCN0351) Wraparound Partnership (SCN0369) Cornwall Council (SCN0373) The Challenging Behaviour Foundation (SCN0376) FIGS UK (SCN0379) Castle Wood Special School (SCN0391) Mr Gareth Morewood (SCN0392) Coventry City Council (SCN0394) Wellspring Academy Trust (SCN0395) South East Region of National Network of Parent Carer Forums (SCN0399) Sixth Form Colleges Association (SCN0402) Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead (SCN0403) Cheshire West & Chester Council (SCN0405) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 67

Children’s Services Development Group (SCN0408) Kisimul Group (SCN0409) Sue Gerrard (SCN0410) Trinity College London (SCN0411) National Development Team for Inclusion (SCN0412) Education Endowment Foundation (SCN0413) EHCP Experiences 18-25 (SCN0414) East Sussex County Council (SCN0416) Surrey Special School Headteachers’ Association (SCN0417) Hertfordshire County Council (SCN0418) London Borough of Hackney (SCN0422) GL Assessment (SCN0423) Herne Bay High School (SCN0427) Devon SEND Improvement Board (SCN0428) Telford and Wrekin Council (SCN0429) Together for Short Lives (SCN0430) Voice (SCN0434) Prior Pursglove and Stockton Sixth Form College (SCN0436) British Dyslexia Association (SCN0438) Mr Ian Mitchell (SCN0588) City of York SEN Services (SCN0589) Family Voice Somerset (SCN0590) 7. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

8. Nursing apprenticeships

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills and Jane Belfour, Deputy Director for Routes into Apprenticeships and Work, Department for Education, and Stephen Barclay MP, Minister for Health, Department of Health and Social Care, and Professor Ian Cumming OBE, Chief Executive, Health Education England, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 18 July 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 18 July 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Emma Hardy Lucy Powell

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

2. Alternative provision

Draft Report (Forgotten children: alternative provision and the scandal of ever increasing exclusions), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Fifth Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19, (HC 342).

[Adjourned till 11 September 2018 at 9.30 am

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Monday 3 September 2018 – Tuesday 4 September 2018

The Chair, Ian Mearns and Lucy Powell visited Rotherham and Greater Manchester, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 27 June.

Tuesday 11 September 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1. The quality of apprenticeships and skills training

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Motion Picture Association (QUA0101) Dyson Institute of Engineering and Technology (QUA0102) Draft Report (The apprenticeships ladder of opportunity: quality not quantity), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Sixth Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19, (HC 344).

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Vivagogy (FIR0002) Catholic Education Service (FIR0003) London School of Economics (FIR0005) Emeritus Professor Michael Bassey (FIR0006) Edge Foundation (FIR0007) Mr Jim Judges (FIR0009) UK Computing Research Committee (FIR0010) ABB (FIR0011) West Midlands Combined Universities (FIR0012) Develop Your Child CIC (FIR0013) Nesta (FIR0014) TUC (FIR0015) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 70

Recruitment & Employment Confederation (FIR0017) Association of Colleges (FIR0018) Association of School and College Leaders (FIR0019) UCL (FIR0020) Design Council (FIR0021) Dr Charles Larkin (FIR0022) Education for Engineering (FIR0023) Centre for Post-14 Education and Work, UCL Institute of Education (FIR0024) Royal Statistical Society (FIR0025) Centre for Cities (FIR0026) EEF - The Manufacturers' Organisation (FIR0027) Birmingham City University (FIR0028) Cultural Learning Alliance (FIR0030) Universities UK (FIR0031) Learning and Work Institute (FIR0032) The Institution of Engineering and Technology (FIR0033) Pearson Plc (FIR0034) University of Edinburgh (FIR0035) Ufi Charitable Trust (FIR0036) Council for Higher Education in Art and Design (FIR0037) techUK (FIR0038) Vodafone UK (FIR0040) Jisc (FIR0041) Professor John MacInnes (FIR0042) Association of Employment and Learning Providers (FIR0043) Imperial College London (FIR0044) Incorporated Society of Musicians (FIR0045) CENTURY Tech (FIR0046) TWI (FIR0047) GAMBICA (FIR0048) Dr Huw Davies (FIR0049) Google (FIR0050) Semta (FIR0052) CompTIA (FIR0053) Philip Virgo (FIR0054) Confederation of British Industry (FIR0055) The Open University (FIR0056) Professor Ronald Stamper (FIR0057) Federation of Small Businesses (FIR0059) Robert Liddell (FIR0060) Sage (FIR0061) WEA (FIR0062) SAP (FIR0063) Gary Fuller (FIR0064) Davido Ltd (FIR0065) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 71

Mr Tryambaka Mahapatra (FIR0066) Robin Potter (FIR0067) Lady Iveta Iveta Kurpniece (FIR0069) Dr Wayne Holmes (FIR0071) Royal Society (FIR0072) Mrs Lorraine Richings (FIR0073) Department for Education (FIR0074) Birkbeck, University of London (FIR0075)

3. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Nursing apprenticeships

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Nursing and Midwifery Council (NWF0004) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

6. School and college funding

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Sport and Recreation Alliance (FUN0101) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

7. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till 10 October 2018 at 9.30 am

Friday 21 September 2018

The Chair visited West Suffolk College, Bury St Edmunds, in a representative capacity, in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 21 February.

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Wednesday 10 October 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg Ian Mearns

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Edge Hotel School (VAL0084) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. School and college funding

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Alliance for Inclusive Education (FUN0102) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Dr Alison Birkinshaw, former President, Association of Colleges, Emily Chapman, Vice President (Further Education), National Union of Students, and James Kewin, Deputy Chief Executive, Sixth Form Colleges Association, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 16 October 2018 at 9 am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 73

Tuesday 16 October 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Value for money in higher education

Draft Report (Value for money in higher education), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

Ordered, That further consideration of the Chair’s draft Report be now adjourned.

Report to be further considered on Wednesday 24 October.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Fourth industrial revolution

Ordered, That the written evidence submitted by the Centre for Education for the Fourth industrial revolution, Leeds Beckett University (FIR0076) relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Professor Rose Luckin, Professor of Learner Centred Design, UCL Knowledge Lab, Brian Holliday, Managing Director, Siemens Digital Factory, and Joysy John, Director of Education, Nesta, gave oral evidence.

Professor Martin Loomes, Pro Vice-Chancellor for Research, Middlesex University, Babak Jahanbani, General Manager, Festo Didactic, Joana Miranda, robotics student, Middlesex University, Nicholas Fitton, computer science student, Middlesex University, and Pepper, robot, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 23 October 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 23 October 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Ben Bradley Lucy Powell Marion Fellows Thelma Walker James Frith William Wragg Emma Hardy

1. Alternative Provision

The Committee considered this matter.

2. PSHE

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities and school and college funding

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Parental Submission 26 (SCN0124) Parental Submission 27 (SCN0135) Parental Submission 28 (SCN0142) Parental Submission 29 (SCN0144) Parental Submission 30 (SCN0149) Parental Submission 31 (SCN0153) Parental Submission 32 (SCN0155) Parental Submission 33 (SCN0159) Parental Submission 34 (SCN0165) Parental Submission 35 (SCN0168) Parental Submission 36 (SCN0173) Parental Submission 37 (SCN0181) Parental Submission 38 (SCN0182) Parental Submission 39 (SCN0188) Parental Submission 40 (SCN0190) Parental Submission 41 (SCN0245) Parental Submission 42 (SCN0254) Parental Submission 43 (SCN0273) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 75

Parental Submission 44 (SCN0314) Parental Submission 45 (SCN0341) Parental Submission 46 (SCN0360) Parental Submission 47 (SCN0366) Parental Submission 48 (SCN0374) Parental Submission 49 (SCN0398) Parental Submission 50 (SCN0426) Parental Submission 51 (SCN0478) Parental Submission 52 (SCN0482) Parental Submission 53 (SCN0490) Parental Submission 54 (SCN0493) Parental Submission 55 (SCN0287) Parental Submission 56 (SCN0020) Parental Submission 57 (SCN0034) Parental Submission 58 (SCN0048) Parental Submission 59 (SCN0121) Parental Submission 60 (SCN0138) Parental Submission 61 (SCN0174) Parental Submission 62 (SCN0193) Parental Submission 63 (SCN0197) Parental Submission 64 (SCN0612)

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Justin Cooke, Policy and Public Affairs Manager, Ambitious about Autism, Matt Keer, Parent and contributor to the Special Needs Jungle website, Julie Cordiner, Education Funding Specialist, School Financial Success gave oral evidence.

Alyson Shields, Head of Education and Supported Learning, New College Durham, Helen Wallace, Headteacher, Thameside Primary School, David Clarke, Deputy Director for Education, Oxfordshire County Council, Dr Jackie Lown, Head of Children and Young People, Specialist Services, East Riding of Yorkshire Council gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till 24 October 2018 at 9.30 am

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Wednesday 24 October 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Ben Bradley Lucy Powell Emma Hardy William Wragg Trudy Harrison

1.Value for money in higher education

Consideration of the Chair’s draft Report (Value for money in higher education) resumed.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Seventh Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19, (HC 343).

[Adjourned till Tuesday 30 October 2018 at 9.30 am

Tuesday 30 October 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Marion Fellows Lucy Powell Ian Mearns Thelma Walker

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee heard oral evidence from Paula Sussex, Chief Executive Officer, and Christian Brodie, Non-executive Chair, Student Loans Company.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 6 November 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 6 November 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Thelma Walker James Frith William Wragg Ian Mearns

1. Nursing degree apprenticeships

Draft Report (Nursing degree apprenticeships), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

The draft Report was agreed to; the Formal Minutes relating to the consideration of the Report are published in the Eighth Report of the Committee, Session 2017–19, (HC 1017).

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

4. School and college funding

Darren Northcott, National Official, Education, NASUWT, Kevin Courtney, Joint General Secretary, National Education Union, Jon Richards, National Secretary Education, Local Government, Police and Justice, UNISON, Valentine Mulholland, Head of Policy, National Association of Headteachers gave oral evidence.

Stephen Tierney, Headteachers’ Roundtable, Julia Harnden, Funding Specialist, Association of School and College Leaders, and Jules White, Founder, WorthLess? gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 20 November 2018 at 9.30 am

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Sunday 11 November – Friday 16 November 2018

The Chair, Emma Hardy, Ian Mearns and Thelma Walker visited Germany and Switzerland in accordance with the Committee’s decision of 19 June 2018.

Tuesday 20 November 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Emma Hardy Marion Fellows Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell

1. Life chances

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

BBC Early Years Language and Literacy Initiative (LIF0069)

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister for School Standards, Department for Education on PSHE, 5 November 2018.

Paula Sussex, Chief Executive, Student Loans Company, 15 November 2018.

3. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Special educational needs and disabilities

Amanda Batten, Chair of the Disabled Children's Partnership, Dame Christine Lenehan, Director, Council for Disabled Children, Jean Gross, Chair, Bercow Ten Years On Review, John Harris, journalist and parent of a child with SEND, Mark Lever, Chief Executive, National Autistic Society, Steve Haines, Executive Director Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 79

for Policy and Campaigns, The National Deaf Children’s Society, and Tara Flood, Director, ALLFIE gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 21 November 2018 at 9.30 am

Wednesday 21 November 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Claudia Harris, Chief Executive, and Christine Hodgson, Chair, Careers & Enterprise Company, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 27 November at 9.30 am

Tuesday 27 November 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication:

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Leigh Powell (SCN0003) Lisa O’Leary (SCN0023) Nicola Hanson (SCN0026) Claire Ryan (SCN0032) Sarah Greaves (SCN0043) Parental Submission 121 (SCN0046) Nicola Morris (SCN0064) Fulham College Boys’ School (SCN0068) Lambeth SEND (SCN0077) Thameside Primary School (SCN0079) Parental Submission 73 (SCN0082) Extra Strong Parents Group (SCN0087) Parental Submission 122 (SCN0100) Parental Submission 143 (SCN0108) Parental Submission 124 (SCN0117) Parental Submission 123 (SCN0120) More House Foundation (SCN0122) Infant School 1(SCN0123) Anonymous 4 (SCN0126) Parental Submission 66 (SCN0127) Haydn Charlesworth (SCN0129) Neil Alexander-Passe (SCN0143) Dez Riddler (SCN0148) Parental Submission 125 (SCN0150) Parental Submission 80 (SCN0154) Northampton College (SCN0157) Parental Submission 81 (SCN0158) Parental Submission 74 (SCN0162) Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman (SCN0163) Anonymous 1 (SCN0166) Parental Submission 127 (SCN0169) Warwickshire Parent Carer Forum (SCN0171) Helen Dobbs (SCN0172) Parental Submission 133 (SCN0175) Katie Sleight (SCN0177) SENCO Forum (SCN0178) Anonymous 5 (SCN0184) UCL Institute of Education’s Psychology and Human Development Department (SCN0200) Parental Submission 128 (SCN0201) Parental Submission 75 (SCN0204) Vickie Joel (SCN0206) Tamsin Bone (SCN0207) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 81

Parental Submission 67 (SCN0210) Parental Submission 76 (SCN0215) Stephanie Fade (SCN0218) Parental Submission 129 (SCN0220) SeeAbility (SCN0228) School Financial Success (SCN0229) Parental Submission 68 (SCN0234) Parental Submission 130 (SCN0238) Parental Submission 131 (SCN0239) Parental Submission 69 (SCN0253) Gillian Doherty (SCN0257) Catholic Education Service (SCN0258) Parental Submission 70 (SCN0260) Fiona Hall-Jones (SCN0261) Parental Submission 71 (SCN0262) Pinpoint Cambridgeshire (SCN0264) Parental Submission 132 (SCN0266) Colour Blind Awareness (SCN0269) Parental Submission 77 (SCN0270) Parental Submission 78 (SCN0271) Parental Submission 79 (SCN0272) Parental Submission 82 (SCN0274) Kathryn Kashyap (SCN0276) Parental Submission 85 (SCN0277) Anonymous 2 (SCN0278) Parental Submission 155 (SCN0280) Parental Submission 84 (SCN0281) Parental Submission 134 (SCN0283) Parental Submission 83 (SCN0284) Anonymous 3 (SCN0286) Parental Submission 86 (SCN0289) SEND Family Voices (SCN0290) SEND Family Voices (SCN0291) Agnieszka Hamling (SCN0293) Parental Submission 135 (SCN0294) Parental Submission 87 (SCN0296) Parental Submission 88 (SCN0305) Parental Submission 89 (SCN0307) National Star (SCN0310) Ambitious about Autism (SCN0311) Deborah Jenkin Jones (SCN0318) Parental Submission 90 (SCN0322) Parental Submission 91 (SCN0323) Parental Submission 92 (SCN0326) Jan Stoney (SCN0328) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 82

RightPro (SCN0330) Parental Submission 151 (SCN0331) Parental Submission 93 (SCN0334) Parental Submission 94 (SCN0336) Parental Submission 95 (SCN0345) Parental Submission 96 (SCN0346) Parental Submission 144 (SCN0347) Parental Submission 136 (SCN0348) Sally Lindsay-German (SCN0350) NATP Ltd t/a National Association of Therapeutic Parents (SCN0354) Jeanette Bidder (SCN0356) Alison Prosser (SCN0359) Parental Submission 137 (SCN0361) Parental Submission 138 (SCN0362) Parental Submission 97 (SCN0364) NAS-Newham Branch Autism Parents Support Group (SCN0368) Parental Submission 98 (SCN0370) Parental Submission 139 (SCN0371) Carolyn Canavan (SCN0372) Anonymous 6 (SCN0378) Parental Submission 99 (SCN0380) Parental Submission 100 (SCN0381) Parental Submission 101 (SCN0382) Parental Submission 102 (SCN0383) Parental Submission 140 (SCN0387) Parental Submission 145 (SCN0388) Parental Submission 103 (SCN0389) Kingston University London (SCN0393) British Educational Suppliers Association (SCN0396) St Barnabas CE VC Primary School (SCN0400) Parental Submission 119 (SCN0401) Parental Submission 104 (SCN0407) Parental Submission 141 (SCN0415) Special Needs Jungle Ltd (SCN0419) Parental Submission 142 (SCN0420) I CAN (SCN0421) National Organisation for Foetal Alcohol Syndrome-UK (SCN0425) Parental Submission 105 (SCN0432) Unique and PWSA UK (SCN0433) Voice (SCN0434) Parental Submission 106 (SCN0435) Parental Submission 146 (SCN0437) Royal College of Occupational Therapists (SCN0439) Parental Submission 156 (SCN0440) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 83

National Association of Principal Educational Psychologists (NAPEP) (SCN0441) Derwen College (SCN0443) GMB (SCN0444) National Deaf Children’s Society (SCN0446) The British Psychological Society (SCN0447) FLSE (SCN0448) Aaron Bigord (SCN0450) Hampshire County Council Children’s Services (SCN0452) Sense (SCN0453) Plymouth City Council (SCN0454) Gemma Birks (SCN0455) Reachout ASC (SCN0457) Staffordshire County Council (SCN0458) Derby College (SCN0459) The Southfield Grange Trust (SCN0461) Roxanna Kishore-Bigord (SCN0462) Association of Employment and Learning Providers (SCN0463) Leading Inclusion in Secondary Schools Network (SCN0465) my AFK (SCN0466) Parents of children with M.E./CFS Support Group (SCN0467) HIP – Hackney Independent Parent-Carer Forum (SCN0468) Anita Kerwin-Nye (SCN0469) Rainbow Parent Carers Forum (SCN0470) Hampshire Parent Carer Network (SCN0471) CTSA (SCN0472) The National Autistic Society (SCN0473) Vanessa Grizzle (SCN0474) Parental Submission 107 (SCN0475) National Governance Association (NGA) (SCN0476) Jill Harrington (SCN0477) Parental Submission 51 (SCN0478) The Special Educational Consortium (SCN0480) Northumberland County Council (SCN0481) Fiona Nicholson (SCN0483) Nottinghamshire County Council (SCN0484) Helen Curran (SCN0486) NatSIP (National Sensory Impairment Partnership) (SCN0487) ASSET (SCN0488) Calderdale MBC (SCN0491) Association of Colleges (SCN0492) Division of Neuropsychology, British Psychology Society (SCN0494) AEP (SCN0495) Northamptonshire County Council (SCN0496) Achieving for Children (SCN0497) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 84

Essex County Council (SCN0498) Contact (SCN0499) Royal College of Speech and Language Therapists (SCN0500) Royal National College for the Blind (SCN0502) Association of Directors of Children’s Services (SCN0503) Health Conditions in Schools Alliance (SCN0504) Schools Students and Teachers Network (SCN505) Parental Submission 108 (SCN0506) NFA Group (SCN0508) Herefordshire Council (SCN0509) Vision Impairment Centre for Teaching and Research (SCN0510) Family Fund (SCN0511) University of Derby and IFF research (SCN0513) Parental Submission 110 (SCN0518) Bjpren.com Bren Prendergast (SCN0522) Parental Submission 147 (SCN0524) Anonymous 7 (SCN0529) SENCO Bristol Cluster Group (SCN0532) Children’s Heart Federation (SCN0533) Parental Submission 109 (SCN0534) Geoffrey Hackett (SCN0535) University of Birmingham (SCN0536) Cambridgeshire County Council (SCN0537) PDA Action (SCN0538) YASS!, YAASS!, & pp4danBarnet (SCN0539) We Love Carers (SCN0540) Parental Submission 154 (SCN0541) Anonymous 8 (SCN0543) Neville Harris (SCN0546) Walton On The Hill Primary School (SCN0548) Herts Parent Carer Involvement (SCN0552) Orchard Hill College (SCN0553) Parental Submission 111 (SCN0555) Parents of Children with Additional Needs (SCN0556) Parental Submission 112 (SCN0558) sendPACT (SCN0559) Parental Submission 113 (SCN0560) SOS SEN (SCN0563) Parental Submission 120 (SCN0564) Parental Submission 115 (SCN0565) Martin Jones (SCN0566) Enhance EHC Ltd (SCN0567) Parental Submission 148 (SCN0568) BURY2GETHER (SCN0569) Centre for Studies on Inclusive Education (CSIE) (SCN0570) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 85

Paul Moreton (SCN0571) (SCN0572) Parental Submission 114 (SCN0575) British Assistive Technology Association (SCN0579) Kingsbury Primary School (SCN0580) Elaine Parkinson (SCN0582) Young Vision Alliance (SCN0584) Signal Family Support (SCN0586) PSCN Academy (SCN0587) Ian Mitchell (SCN0588) Amanda Webb-Johnson (SCN0600) Brian Lamb (SCN0602) Parental Submission 126 (SCN0604) Treloar’s (SCN0605) Parental Submission 116 (SCN0606) Chiltern Way Academy (SCN0607) Parental Submission 152 (SCN0610) Parental Submission 117 (SCN0613) Parental Submission 118 (SCN0616) Parental Submission 72 (SCN0620) Roy Atkinson (SCN0621) Parental Submission 153 (SCN0623) Parental Submission 149 (SCN0626) Parental Submission 150 (SCN0634) Psychological Services Northumberland County Council (SCN0636) London Assembly (SCN0637)

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, that Professor Rose Luckin be appointed as specialist adviser for this inquiry. (For details of declaration of interests, see Appendix 2.)

3. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

4. School and college funding

Dave Hill, Executive Director of Children, Families and Learning, Surrey County Council, Gary Fielding, Corporate Director of Strategic Resources, North Yorkshire County Council, and Tim Moss, County Commissioner for School Quality Assurance and Intervention, Staffordshire County Council gave oral evidence.

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Councillor Anntoinette Bramble, Chair of the Children and Young People’s Board, Local Government Association, Councillor Paul Carter, Chair, County Councils Network, and Yolande Burgess, Strategy Director, London Councils gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 4 December at 9.30 am

Tuesday 4 December 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Value for money in higher education

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

George Holroyd, Kathleen Redcliffe, and Carl Rogers gave oral evidence.

Mrunal Sisodia, Co-Chair, National Network of Parent Carer Forums, Penny Hoffman-Becking, Trustee and steering group member of SEND Family Voices, and Beth Foster, Education Lead, Hampshire Parent Carer Network gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 December 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 11 December 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Sir Anthony Seldon, Vice-Chancellor, University of Buckingham, Professor John Baruch, Director of the Centre for Education for the Fourth Industrial Revolution, Leeds Beckett University, and Professor Mary Stuart, Vice Chancellor, University of Lincoln gave oral evidence.

Simon Peyton Jones, Honorary Professor of the Computing Science Department, Glasgow University, Duncan Baldwin, Deputy Policy Director: Standards, Association of School and College Leaders, and Professor Danaë Stanton Fraser, Professor in Human Computer Interaction, University of Bath gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 18 December 2018 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 18 December 2018

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker

1. Apprenticeships

Draft Special Report (The apprenticeships ladder of opportunity: quality not quantity: Government Response to the Committee’s Sixth Report of Session 2017–19), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Sixth Report from the Committee was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Seventh Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Alternative provision

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 8 January 2019 at 9.30 am

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Tuesday 8 January 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Association of Accounting Technicians (FIR0079) Eureka Robotics Lab, Cardiff Metropolitan University (FIR0077) Zurich Assurance PLC (FIR0078)

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Careers and Enterprise Company (SCR0005)

3. Value for money in higher education

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to this inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Office for Students, 3 January 2019

4. Fourth industrial revolution

Priya Lakhani, Founder CEO, CENTURY Tech, Vinous Ali, Head of Policy, techUK, Martin Hamilton, Futurist, Jisc, and Professor David Brown, Professor of Interactive Systems for Social Inclusion, Nottingham Trent University gave oral evidence.

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Matthew Fell, Chief UK Policy Director, Confederation of British Industry (CBI) , and Iain Murray, Senior Policy Officer, Trades Union Congress (TUC) gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 15 January 2019 at 9.30 am

Tuesday 15 January 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan James Frith Ben Bradley Emma Hardy Marion Fellows Ian Mearns

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Parental Submission 163 (SCN0078) Parental Submission 159 (SCN0309) Parental Submission 164 (SCN0332) Parental Submission 160 (SCN0424) Parental Submission 165 (SCN0603) Parental Submission 166 (SCN0643) Ms Anita Devi (SCN0644) Parental Submission 157 (SCN0645) Dyslexial (SCN0646) Parental Submission 161(SCN0647) Stephen Kingdom (SCN0648) Matt Keer (SCN0649) Steve Haines (SCN0650) Julie Cordiner (SCN0651)

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 91

Taipei Representative Office in the UK (FIR0080)

3. Ofsted

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Tania Beard, Headteacher, St Martin's C of E Primary and Nursery School, Jon Boyes, Principal, Herne Bay High School, Penny Earl, Resource Provision Manager, Stoke Park Infant School, Sabrina Hobbs, Principal, Severndale Specialist Academy, Nicola Jones-Ford, SENCo, Fulham College Boys' School, Dr Cath Lowther, Educational Psychologist, and Callum Wetherill, Pastoral Leader, Joseph Norton Academy gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 16 January 2019 at 9.30 am

Wednesday 16 January 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

The Rt Hon Damian Hinds MP and Jonathan Slater, , DfE gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 29 January 2019 at 9.00 am

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Tuesday 29 January 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Ben Bradley Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker Trudy Harrison William Wragg

1. Life chances

Draft Report (Tackling disadvantage in the early years), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first time, and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Report be the Ninth Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Save Lewes Schools (SCR0006)

3. School and college funding

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Alliance for Inclusive Education (FUN0102) William Martin C of E Infant and Junior Schools (FUN0103)

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter

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Beatrice Barleon, Policy Development Manager, Mencap, Bernie White, Chair, Natspec, Caroline Archer, Employment Service Manager, Action on Disability, David Ellis, Chief Executive, National Star, Di Roberts, chair of the Association of Colleges’ SEN Group, Janine Cherrington, Head of Service, Transition2, Linda Jordan, Senior Development Adviser (Children and Young People’s programme), National Development Team for Inclusion, and Pat Brennan-Barrett, Principal, Northampton College gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 5 February 2019 at 9.30 am

Tuesday 5 February 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Emma Hardy Thelma Walker William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Sean Harford, National Director, Education, and Amanda Spielman, Her Majesty’s Chief Inspector, Ofsted gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 12 February 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 12 February 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy

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1. Supplementary Estimates

Ordered, That the memorandum from the Department for Education on its Supplementary Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofqual on its Supplementary Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Ordered, That the memorandum from Ofsted on its Supplementary Estimate for 2018–19 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for on the internet:

Harlow College (SCN0670) Fulham College Boys School (SCN0671) NHS England (SCN0672)

Richard Flinton, Chief Executive, North Yorkshire County Council, John Henderson, Chief Executive, Staffordshire County Council, and Steve Rumbelow, Chief Executive, Rochdale Borough Council gave oral evidence.

Councillor Anntoinette Bramble, Chair of Children and Young People’s Board, Local Government Association, Chris Harrison, Director, SEND4Change, Charlotte Ramsden, Chair of the Health, Care and Additional Needs Policy Committee, Association of Directors of Children’s Services, and Andrew Reece, British Association of Social Workers representative gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 26 February 2019 at 9.30 am

Tuesday 26 February 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

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Emma Hardy

1. Nursing degree apprenticeships

The Committee considered this matter.

Draft Special Report (Nursing degree apprenticeships: in poor health?: Government response to the Committee’s Eighth Report of Session 2017–19) proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first and second time, and agreed to.

The Government’s response to the Eighth Report from the Committee was appended to the Report.

Resolved, That the Report be the Eighth Special Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

2. Supplementary Estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Di Roberts (SCN0675) NHS England (SCN0680)

4. Ofqual

The Committee considered this matter.

5. Proposed visit to Royal Shakespeare Company

The Committee considered this matter.

6. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

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Andreas Schleicher, Director, Directorate of Education and Skills, OECD gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 5 March 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 5 March 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Ben Bradley Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Forward programme

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Correspondence from Ofqual

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Delegated legislation

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Caroline Dinenage, Minister of State for Care, Department of Health and Social Care, Fran Oram, Director for mental health, dementia and disabilities, Department of Health and Social Care, Michelle Morris, Consultant Speech and Language Therapist / Designated Clinical Officer – Salford CCG, Dr Sally Payne, Professional Adviser – Children, Young People and Families, Royal College of Occupational Therapists, Steve Inett, CEO, Healthwatch Kent, Dr Tracey Crockford, Associate Specialist Community Paediatrician, Designated Medical Officer for SEND, West Cheshire, and Professor Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 97

Jacqueline Dunkley-Bent OBE, Head of Maternity Children and Young People– Nursing Directorate, NHS England gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 12 March 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Richard Flinton (SCN0682) Steve Rumbelow (SCN0683) Halton Borough Council (SCN0684) East Sussex County Council (SCN0685) London Borough of Newham (SCN0686)

2. Relationships and sex education

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Debate on early years intervention Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 98

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Sally Collier, Chief Regulator and Roger Taylor, Chair, Ofqual gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 19 March 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 19 March 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ben, Eva, and Jordan, young people, gave oral evidence. Simran, and Kashifa, young people, gave oral evidence. Francesca, and Ella, young people, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 27 March 2019 at 9.30am Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 99

Wednesday 27 March 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan James Frith Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell

1. Declarations of interest

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Department for Education Supplementary Estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

Resolved, That the Committee write to the Department regarding Supplementary Estimates.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Pearson Education (SCR0008) Cambridge Assessment (SCR0009) Social Mobility Commission (SCR0010) The Office of the Children’s Commissioner (SCR0011) Department for Education (SCR0012) Department for Education (SCR0013)

4. Knife crime

Mark Simmons, Assistant Commissioner, London Metropolitan Police, Sir Michael Wilshaw, Professor of Education and Director of Multi-Academy Trusts, St Mary’s University, Will Linden, Deputy Director, Scottish Violence Reduction Unit, and Carlie Thomas, Senior Caseworker Rescue & Response, St Giles Trust gave oral evidence.

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[Adjourned till Tuesday 2 April 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 2 April 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Marion Fellows Trudy Harrison Emma Hardy Ian Mearns

1. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Knife crime

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Barnado’s (KNC0002) Department for Education (KCR0001)

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Fourth industrial revolution

Minister Liang-Gee Chen, Taiwan Ministry of Science and Technology, Professor Yuh- Jzer Joung, Director General, Science and Technology Policy Research and Information Centre, Professor Jiun-Huei Proty Wu, Director of Science and Technology, Taipei Representative Office in the UK, and Yun-Nung (Vivian) Chen, Assistant Professor, Department of Computer Science and Information Engineering, National Taiwan University gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 3 April 2019 at 9.00am

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Wednesday 3 April 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Emma Hardy Lucy Powell Thelma Walker

1. School and college funding and fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister of State for Apprenticeships and Skills, and Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister of State for School Standards gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 24 April 2019 at 9.00am

Wednesday 24 April 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Trudy Harrison Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy William Wragg

1. Special educational needs and disabilities Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 102

The Committee considered this matter

2. Tackling disadvantage in the early years

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills, 11 April 2019 Sally Collier, Chief Regulator, Ofqual, 4 April 2019 Sally Collier, Chief Regulator, Ofqual, 4 April 2019

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Sean O'Sullivan (SCN0662) Ms Gwynneth Olivera (SCN0663) Parental Submission 171 (SCN0665) Mrs Nicola CannonBrookes (SCN0666) Parental Submission 170 (SCN0667) Mrs Sonia Ash (SCN0669) Parental Submission 167 (SCN0674) Parental Submission 169 (SCN0678) Not Fine In School (SCN0679) John Henderson (SCN0690) Parental Submission 168 (SCN0691) Judge Chris Ward (SCN0693) Judge Meleri Tudur (SCN0694) Children’s Services Development Group (SCN0695)

Gill Jones, Deputy Director of Early Education, Ofsted, Jonathan Jones, HMI, Specialist Adviser, SEND, Ofsted, Professor Ursula Gallagher, Deputy Chief Inspector for Primary Medical Services and Integrated Care, CQC, and Nigel Thompson, Head of Children’s Health and Justice, CQC gave oral evidence. Alison Fiddy, Chief Executive, Ipsea, Imogen Jolley, Head of Public Law, Simpson Millar, and Michael King, Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman gave oral evidence. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 103

[Adjourned til Tuesday 30 April 2019 at 9.30am.

Tuesday 30 April 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

James Frith Lucy Powell Trudy Harrison Thelma Walker Ian Mearns William Wragg

1. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence with Jonathan Slater dated 18 April 2019 be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

2. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Lord Agnew, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State, Department for Education, and Dominic Herrington, National Schools Commissioner gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 1 May 2019 at 9.30am

Wednesday 1 May 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell William Wragg

1. Opportunity areas

The Committee considered this matter. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 104

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Norwich Opportunity Area (OPA0001) Stoke on Trent Opportunity Area (OPA0002) Doncaster Opportunity Area (OPA0003) Derby Opportunity Area (OPA0004) Oldham Opportunity Area (OPA0005) Blackpool Opportunity Area (OPA0006) Norwich Opportunity Area (OPA0007) Fenland and East Cambridgeshire Opportunity Area (OPA0008) Bradford Opportunity Area (OPA0009) North Yorkshire Cost Opportunity Area (OPA0010) Department for Education (OPA0011) West Somerset Opportunity Area (OPA0012) Richard Lister (OPA0013) Education Endowment Foundation (OPA0014) Hastings Opportunity Area (OPA0015) Opportunity North East (OPA0016) Careers and Enterprise Company (OPA0017)

Lauren Barnett, member, Norwich Opportunity Area Youth Board, Simon Carnall, member, Derby Opportunity Area Partnership Board, Graham Cowley, Chair, Blackpool Opportunity Area Partnership Board, Clare Hutchinson, member, Oldham and Bradford Opportunity Areas Partnership Boards, Duncan Jacques, member, Bradford Opportunity Area Partnership Board, Dr Fiona McMillan, Chair, West Somerset Opportunity Area Partnership Board, Chris Starkie, member, Norwich and Ipswich Opportunity Areas Partnership Boards, and Nicola Swaney, member, Derby Opportunity Area Partnership Board gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 8 May 2019 at 9.30am.

Wednesday 8 May 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns James Frith Thelma Walker Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 105

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Opportunity areas

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

NCS (OPA0018)

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the correspondence with the Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister of State for School Standards dated 25 April 2019 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Terry Reynolds, Director for Education and Skills, London Borough of Newham, and Stuart Gallimore, Director of Children’s Services, East Sussex County Council gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 14 May 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 14 May 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell

1. School and college funding, and Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee discussed this matter. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 106

2. Opportunity areas

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

National Foundation for Educational Research (OPA0019) York Consulting (OPA0020)

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister of State for Apprenticeships and Skills, 2 May 2019 Lord Agnew, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for the School System, 8 May 2019

4. Opportunity areas

Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Children and Families, Department for Education, Sue Baldwin, Regional Schools Commissioner for the East of England and North East London, and Hannah Streatfeild, Deputy Director, Opportunity Areas gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 15 May 2019 at 9.30am

Wednesday 15 May 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Ben Bradley Trudy Harrison Marion Fellows Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 107

William Wragg

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Chris Skidmore MP, Minister of State for Universities, and Matthew Toombs, Director of Student Finance, Department for Education gave oral evidence.

In the absence of the Chair, Ian Mearns was called to the Chair.

Chris Skidmore MP, Minister of State for Universities, and Matthew Toombs, Director of Student Finance, Department for Education gave further oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 21 May 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 21 May 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Thelma Walker James Frith William Wragg Emma Hardy

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Birkby Infant and Nursery School (SCN0681) Kathryn August (SCN0687) Anna Pilson (SCN0696) Independent Schools Association (SCN0697) Moorvision (SCN0698) Matt Keer (SCN0699) Carol Long (SCN0700) Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 108

Department for Education and Department for Health and Social Care (SCN0701) Parental Submission 163a (SCN0703)

2. Departmental Estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the Teachers’ Pension Scheme Main Estimates 2019-20 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That correspondence from Gill Jones, HMI, Ofsted, dated 15 May 2019, be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

4. Special educational needs and disabilities

Nadhim Zahawi, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State for Children and Families, the Rt Hon Nick Gibb, Minister of State for School Standards, and Dr André Imich, SEN and Disability Professional Adviser, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 5 June 2019 at 9.30am

Wednesday 5 June 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Ben Bradley Lucy Powell Marion Fellows Thelma Walker

1. Main Estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

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Ordered, That the Department for Education Main Estimates memorandum 2019-20 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Ordered, That the Ofsted Main Estimates memorandum 2019-20 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

Ordered, That the Ofqual Main Estimates memorandum 2019-20 be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet: Stuart Gallimore (SCN0710) Terry Reynolds (SCN0711)

3. Accountability hearings

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Department for Education (SCR0017) Department for Education (SCR0016) Department for Education (SCR0018)

4. School and college funding

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Department for Education (FUN0107)

5. Education in the north

Lord Jim O’Neill, Vice-Chair, Northern Powerhouse Partnership, and Henri Murison, Director, Northern Powerhouse Partnership, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 June 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 11 June 2019

Members present:

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Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell

1. Formal minutes

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the formal minutes and register of attendance be reported to the House for publication on the internet.

2. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 18 June 2019 at 9.00am

Tuesday 18 June 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Main estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Correspondence

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That correspondence from Rt Hon Nick Gibb MP, Minister of State for School Standards, dated 10 June 2019, be reported to the House for publication on the internet. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 111

6. Accountability hearing: Social Mobility Commission Dame Martina Milburn, Chair, Sasha Morgan, Director, and Sammy Wilson, Commissioner, Social Mobility Commission, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 19 June 2019 at 9.30am

Wednesday 19 June 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns James Frith Lucy Powell Thelma Walker

1. Future programme

The Committee considered this matter.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 25 June at 9.30am

Tuesday 25 June 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Thelma Walker James Frith

1. Estimates debate

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Committee inquiries

The Committee considered this matter.

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3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Jonathan Clear, Strategic Finance Director, Rt Hon Damian Hinds MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education, and Indra Morris, Deputy Permanent Secretary and Director General, Social Care, Mobility and Disadvantage, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 2 July 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 02 July 2019

Members present:

Ian Mearns, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Thelma Walker James Frith William Wragg

1. Forward programme

The Committee considered this matter.

2. Fourth industrial revolution

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following written evidence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Incorporated Society of Musicians (FIR0084)

1. Opportunity areas

The Committee considered this matter

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Sir Martin Narey, Chair, North Yorkshire Coast Opportunity Area Board to Chair, 11 June 2019.

2. Accountability hearings

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The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Christine Ozden, Chief Executive, Cambridge Assessment, International Education to Chair, 24 June 2019

Derek Richardson, Vice President, Pearson to Chair, 26 June 2019.

Edward Timpson CBE, Chair, Timpson review of school exclusion, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 3 July 2019 at 9.30am

Wednesday 03 July 2019

The Education and Work and Pensions Committees met concurrently.

Members present:

Marion Fellows Ian Mearns Emma Hardy Lucy Powell Thelma Walker

The following members of the Work and Pensions Committee were also present (Standing Order No. 137A).

Heidi Allen Steve McCabe Frank Field Nigel Mills Ruth George Chris Stephens

Frank Field was called to the Chair (Standing Order No. 137A (1) (d).

School holiday poverty

The Committee considered this matter.

Karen Rotheram, Dawn Taplin, Anne Newbould, and Nichola Salvato, parents, gave oral evidence.

Martha Mackenzie, Director of UK Poverty Policy, Advocacy and Campaigns, Save the Children, Abby Jitendra, Policy and Research Manager, The Trussell Trust, Sophie Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 114

Howes, Senior Policy and Research Officer, Child Poverty Action Group, Megan Jarvie, Head of Coram Family and Childcare, and Emma Wilkes, Director, Neo Community, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 16 July 2019 at 9.30am

Tuesday 16 July 2019

Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Emma Hardy Ben Bradley Ian Mearns Marion Fellows William Wragg

1. Special educational needs and disabilities

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the special educational needs and disabilities inquiry be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

DFN Charitable Foundation (SCN0714) Christopher Robertson (SCN0712) Terry Reynolds (SCN0711) Stuart Gallimore (SCN0710) Contact (SCN0709) Parental Submission 174 (SCN0708) Michael King, Local Government and Social Care Ombudsman (SCN0707) National Deal Children’s Society (SCN0706) Dr Elizabeth Nassem (SCN0705) Parental Submission 177 (SCN0574) Parental Submission 178 (SCN0573) Young Person Submission 1 (SCN0551) Parental Submission 185 (SCN0542) Parental Submission 174 (SCN0375) Parental Submission 182 (SCN0357) Parental Submission 183 (SCN0344) Parental Submission 180 (SCN0327) Parental Submission 175 (SCN0282) Parental Submission 173 (SCN0259) Parental Submission 181 (SCN0233) Parental Submission 176 (SCN0219) Parenal Submission 179 (SCN0073) Parental Submission 172 (SCN0001)

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2. Accountability hearing

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Nadhim Zahawi MP, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Children and Families, to Chair, 1 July 2019

Ordered, That the following written evidence relating to the Children’s Commissioner for England’s Accountability hearing be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Children’s Commissioner for England (SCR0019)

3. Opportunity areas

The Committee considered this matter.

4. Correspondence

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Lucy Proctor, Charity Chief Executive, The Royal National College for the Blind, to Chair, dated 4 July 2019

Dame Martina Milburn, Chair, Social Mobility Commission, to Chair, dated 4 July 2019

5. School and college funding

Draft Report (A ten-year plan for school and college funding), proposed by the Chair, brought up, read the first time, and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Report be the tenth Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 23 July at 09.30am

Tuesday 23 July 2019

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Members present:

Robert Halfon, in the Chair

Lucy Allan Ian Mearns Marion Fellows Lucy Powell James Frith Thelma Walker Emma Hardy

1. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Ordered, That the following correspondence be reported to the House for publication on the internet:

Rt Hon Damian Hinds MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education, 18 July 2019.

Rt Hon Damian Hinds MP, Secretary of State, Department for Education, 22 July 2019.

Paula Sussex, Chief Executive, Student Loans Company, 19 July 2019.

2. Departmental Estimates

The Committee considered this matter.

3. Accountability hearings

The Committee considered this matter.

Rt Hon Anne Milton MP, Minister for Apprenticeships and Skills, Department for Education, gave oral evidence.

Philip Augar, Chair, Professor Edward Peck, Member, Independent Panel, and Matt Toombs, Secretariat, Independent Panel, Review of Post-18 Education and Funding, gave oral evidence.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 4 September 2019 at 9.30am

APPENDIX 1: DECLARATIONS OF INTERESTS BY MEMBERS 12 September 2017: Declaration of Members’ interests

Interests declared in addition to those registered in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests as at 12 September 2017. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 117

Lucy Allan:

Nil

Michelle Donelan:

Nil

Marion Fellows:

Nil

James Frith:

Nil

Emma Hardy:

Member of Socialist Educational Association, CSEA, Unite and Unison.

Partner is employed by Hull City Council Adult Education Training and Skills.

Robert Halfon:

Member of Prospect.

Patron of Home-Start Harlow.

Trudy Harrison:

Chair of Governors, Captain Shaw’s CofE Primary School, Bootle.

Chair of Management Committee, Bootle Nursery

Ian Mearns:

Nil

Lucy Powell:

Nil

Thelma Walker:

Member of Unison and TUC.

Partner is a local councillor for the Colne Valley ward in Kirklees.

Worked as an independent consultant for Royds Hall Community School until November 2016. Paid £2,800 for this work.

William Wragg:

Associate member of ATL.

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25 April 2018: Declaration of Members’ interests

Interests declared in addition to those registered in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests as at 16 April 2018. Further interests shown in yellow.

Lucy Allan:

Nil

Michelle Donelan:

Nil

Marion Fellows:

Nil

James Frith:

Nil

Emma Hardy:

Member of Socialist Educational Association, CSEA, Unite and Unison.

Partner is employed by Hull City Council Adult Education Training and Skills.

Robert Halfon:

Member of Prospect.

Patron of Home-Start Harlow.

Patron of Paces Sheffield

Board member of The 5% Club.

Trudy Harrison:

Chair of Governors, Captain Shaw’s CofE Primary School, Bootle.

Chair of Management Committee, Bootle Nursery

Co-Chair of the Apprenticeship Delivery Board

Apprenticeship Ambassador

Ian Mearns:

Nil

Lucy Powell:

Nil

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Member of Unison and TUC.

Partner is a local councillor for the Colne Valley ward in Kirklees.

Worked as an independent consultant for Royds Hall Community School until November 2016. Paid £2,800 for this work.

William Wragg:

Associate member of ATL.

8 January 2019: Declaration of Members’ interests

Interests declared in addition to those registered in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests as at 17 December 2018. Further interests shown in yellow.

Lucy Allan:

Nil

Ben Bradley:

Nil

Marion Fellows:

Nil

James Frith:

Nil

Emma Hardy:

Member of Socialist Educational Association, CSEA, Unite and Unison.

Partner is employed by Hull City Council Adult Education Training and Skills.

Robert Halfon:

Member of Prospect.

Patron of Home-Start Harlow.

Patron of Paces Sheffield

Board member of The 5% Club.

Member of the Advisory Council of the Institute for Ethical AI in Education (IEAIED).

Trudy Harrison:

Chair of Governors, Captain Shaw’s CofE Primary School, Bootle. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 120

Chair of Management Committee, Bootle Nursery

Co-Chair of the Apprenticeship Delivery Board

Apprenticeship Ambassador

Ian Mearns:

Nil

Lucy Powell:

Nil

Thelma Walker:

Member of Unison and TUC.

Partner is a local councillor for the Colne Valley ward in Kirklees.

Worked as an independent consultant for Royds Hall Community School until November 2016. Paid £2,800 for this work.

William Wragg:

Associate member of ATL.

5 June 2019: Declaration of Members’ interests

Interests declared in addition to those registered in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests as at 17 December 2018. Further interests shown in yellow.

Lucy Allan:

Nil

Ben Bradley:

Nil

Marion Fellows:

Nil

James Frith:

Nil

Emma Hardy:

Member of Socialist Educational Association, CSEA, Unite and Unison.

Partner is employed by Hull City Council Adult Education Training and Skills. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 121

Robert Halfon:

Member of Prospect.

Patron of Home-Start Harlow.

Patron of Paces Sheffield

Board member of The 5% Club.

Member of the Advisory Council of the Institute for Ethical AI in Education (IEAIED).

Parliamentary Patron of the Workers’ Educational Association.

Trudy Harrison:

Chair of Governors, Captain Shaw’s CofE Primary School, Bootle.

Chair of Management Committee, Bootle Nursery

Co-Chair of the Apprenticeship Delivery Board

Apprenticeship Ambassador

Ian Mearns:

Member of Unison.

Lucy Powell:

Patron of the Tudor Trust.

Member of Unite.

Thelma Walker:

Member of Unison and TUC.

Member of NEU.

Partner is a local councillor for the Colne Valley ward in Kirklees.

Worked as an independent consultant for Royds Hall Community School until November 2016. Paid £2,800 for this work.

William Wragg:

Associate member of ATL. Education Committee: Formal Minutes 2017-19 122

APPENDIX 2: DECLARATIONS OF INTERESTS BY SPECIALIST ADVISERS 27 November 2018

Professor Rose Luckin

Interests

Governor, St Paul’s School, Lonsdale Road London

Trustee, Life Charitable Trust

Syndic, Cambridge University Press

Research Council Adviser, McGraw Hill

Board Member, Aula Education

Governor, Self-managed Learning College, Brighton

OFS Horizon Scanning Panel