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National Museum of the Pacific War Nimitz Education and Research Center Fredericksburg, Texas Telephone Interview with Mr. Maurice Thoresen Date of Interview: May 21, 2010 National Museum of the Pacific War Fredericksburg, Texas Telephone Interview with Mr. Maurice Thoresen Telephone Interview in progress. Ed Metzler: [This is the] 21st of May, 2010. I’m doing a telephone interview with Mr. Maurice Thoresen; he’s located at his home in Washington State. I am located in Fredericksburg, Texas at the Nimitz Museum. This interview is in support of the Center of Pacific War Studies, archives for the National Museum of the Pacific War, Texas Historical Commission, and it’s for the preservation of historical information related to this site. So, Maurice, thanks a lot for spending the time with us today and let’s get you started by having you just introduce yourself. Tell us who you are and when and where you were born. Mr. Thoresen: I’m...my name is Maurice, M-a-u-r-i-c-e... Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: ...Thoresen, T-h-o-r-e-s-e-n. I was born in British Columbia, Canada, and I went passed the second, third grade there and then we moved to Everett in Washington. Ed Metzler: Uh hum, what year were you born, Maurice? Mr. Thoresen: April 6, 1919. Ed Metzler: Wow! That makes you ninety-one years old! Mr. Thoresen: Right. Page 1 of 35 Ed Metzler: Congratulations sir! Mr. Thoresen: Thank you. Ed Metzler: Okay, well, so you moved to Washington Sate when you were a young lad, is that what I heard you say? Mr. Thoresen: Yes. Ed Metzler: And so...Everett, did you say Everett, Washington? Mr. Thoresen: Everett, Washington. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Is that where you went to school then and is that where you were raised? Mr. Thoresen: Oh, I went to school here...I think Garfield School for the...(pause) for the people that go there. Ed Metzler: Uh huh. Mr. Thoresen: From...oh, fourth, fifth grade up to the...sixth grade, something like that. Ed Metzler: Yeah, yeah. Mr. Thoresen: And then (unintelligible). Ed Metzler: And did you go to high school? Mr. Thoresen: Yeah, go to...Everett High School. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And I graduated from Everett High School in 1938. Ed Metzler: Okay, so right in the middle of the Depression! Mr. Thoresen: Yes sir! Ed Metzler: Times were tough, weren’t they? Mr. Thoresen: Right, and I had a hard time finding a job. And...(pause)... Page 2 of 35 Ed Metzler: So what did you finally end up doing for work? Mr. Thoresen: I went and joined the...the CCs. Ed Metzler: Oh, the Coast Guard?! Mr. Thoresen: The...no, the CCC. Ed Metzler: Oh, the CCC?! Mr. Thoresen: Yeah, the Civilian Conservation Corps. Ed Metzler: Right! And where did they send you to? Mr. Thoresen: They sent up to...back in from Stevens Pass, they were building a...kind of a...place where people could go and...stay overnight or whatever up there. Ed Metzler: Kind of a lodge or something? Mr. Thoresen: Well, with their sleeping bags and... Ed Metzler: Oh, so it was a campsite thing? Mr. Thoresen: Yeah, and I...asked one of the rangers if I could drive their truck, and they took me out and gave me a test and shipped me on over to where I had a truck to drive every day. Ed Metzler: So that’s how you first started driving trucks, huh? Mr. Thoresen: Right, and these trucks were...at first it was a few...trucks that hauled the...crews or...and... Ed Metzler: The workers? Mr. Thoresen: ...the workers. Ed Metzler: Yeah. Page 3 of 35 Mr. Thoresen: And then they shifted me over to where I...drove a...dump...dump truck where you fill the truck up with...the back part of it with...either dirt or rock, you know? Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And drive it to where they wanted...dumped and things like that. Ed Metzler: Yeah. So how long did you work in the CCC? Mr. Thoresen: Oh, I think I was there...probably...uh, probably a year and a half. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: It was right...right after I got out of high school. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And...this war in...in Europe was going on and I didn’t want to become drafted. Ed Metzler: Right. Mr. Thoresen: I wanted to join...one of the services that...that I had...that I signed up for... Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: ...instead of being drafted. So I went to a neighbor who was a...a Skipper of a boat in Everett...about a seventy-five footer, and I talked to him and I kind of got some...uh, information from him that...caused me to...pick out what I wanted. Ed Metzler: Uh huh. Mr. Thoresen: And it happened to be the Coast Guard. Ed Metzler: Okay. Page 4 of 35 Mr. Thoresen: So I went to Seattle and signed up and then was transferred over to Port Townsend Training Station where they trained the young men...to become...familiar with the things that the Coast Guard was doing. Ed Metzler: Yeah, was this kind of like basic training if you were in the military? Mr. Thoresen: Yes, uh huh. Ed Metzler: Uh huh. So how was that; was that easy for you or was it a challenge or what? Mr. Thoresen: Oh, it was...something very interesting, and then...not so much challenging because all of a sudden we’re one group where...working with each other, you know? Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: But we were just learning...how the Coast Guard...continued their...uh, jobs that they had to do... Ed Metzler: Right. Mr. Thoresen: ...as a government and whatever. Ed Metzler: Now had the war started yet when you went into the Coast Guard? Mr. Thoresen: No it hadn’t. Ed Metzler: Okay. Mr. Thoresen: That’s why I joined...something that...where I wouldn’t be drafted. Ed Metzler: Right. So after you finished your training, where did they send you? Mr. Thoresen: (Pause), let’s see, they...when I went into the Coast Guard? Ed Metzler: Yes. Mr. Thoresen: They sent me down to California. Page 5 of 35 Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And I believe I was over in Oakland for awhile. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And...(pause)...oh, I’m having a hard time thinking of...what I was doing. Ed Metzler: Yeah, well were you onboard a...a Coast Guard cutter or were you having shore duty or what? Mr. Thoresen: I was having...shore duty. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: It was Coast Guard...headquarters just off of the main street of San Francisco. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And (pause), I got to work there and then I drove a...a truck there, too. Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: And it was a...it was a communication truck, and I got to drive that around San Francisco...and (pause)...and when I got sent out to Pearl Harbor...or I mean, to Honolulu, I went aboard the [USCGC] Roger B. Taney, Coast Guard cutter there. Ed Metzler: And what, I’m sorry, what was the name of it again? Mr. Thoresen: Roger B. Taney. Ed Metzler: Okay. So that’s how you got out to the islands? Mr. Thoresen: Yeah, it was...of...it was...abbreviation of...USCGC Taney and then parenthesis...WHEC-37. And...I went aboard it as a...as a beginner. And the ship that...we...we went to different places. There was one time when I Page 6 of 35 was...on the helm of the...of this ship and...we were heading back to Hawaii; we’d been out at sea, and I saw some...a big, black space...up ahead... Ed Metzler: Uh huh. Mr. Thoresen: ...and... Ed Metzler: Kind of a black...place in the water you mean? Mr. Thoresen: It was...yeah, it...it wasn’t a...from a...a cloud or anything, but it was...we were quite a distance from it. But I saw it and...I called the...person that...gave me the...the steering wheel (unintelligible) to do this work, and he was in...sort of in charge of that that because he had a higher rating than a lot of people... Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: ...of the younger people that...just came aboard, including me. And he went down and got the Skipper and they...relieved me of my job; they put somebody on that was...more skilled than me... Ed Metzler: Uh hum. Mr. Thoresen: ...and they (pause) called the engine department; told them to get the engine...up to full speed and we...changed the direction that the ship was going and go away from that area. If that had been the...the night, and we’d kept on going in the same direction, we’d have gone aground there on that...whatever it was. Ed Metzler: And you don’t know what it was then, huh? Mr. Thoresen: No, we never did find out then. Ed Metzler: So what do you think it was? Page 7 of 35 Mr. Thoresen: Well, it was down in the...southern islands; it may have been just a...island but it didn’t show it. Ed Metzler: Oh okay. Mr. Thoresen: And it was...more or less, night time, too; close to that, but I happened to...pick it up and...and it scared me; I reported it to the officers and we got out of there...going a different direction.