Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015
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Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015 Krishna Das Music Presents – Yoga of Devotion Memorial Day Weekend Retreat Yogaville, Buckingham, Virginia Sunday, May 24th, 2015 PART 1 – DESIRE [KD] You know, I remember sitting on the roof of the Temple back in the old days and I was talking to this young Bengali kirtan wallah, this drummer, he was a fantastic drummer. And he was asking me about my life, you know. And he wanted to know if I had a house. I said, “Yeah.” I was thinking about the mortgage, but he was going like, “Wow, a house!” He said, “Do you have a car?” I said, “Yeah, two.” Car payments. He goes, “Wow!” He says, “Are you married?” I said, “Yeah, divorce coming up.” He goes, “Wow! Kids?” “Yeah, oh boy, they have to go through this.” “Wow!” He wanted everything I had. So I said to him, “My friend you’re out of your mind. All you have to do is wake up in the morning, sing Hare Krishna and go to sleep, that’s it. What’s your problem?” He looked at me like I was crazy. Now, I wake up in the morning, sing hare Krishna, and go to sleep. Unbelievable. But the thing was he was hungry, and those desires that he had would probably never get fulfilled this life. Coming where he was coming from, very poor, uneducated. The opportunities just aren’t there for him. So it’s interesting. Just because here we have every opportunity, everything. We’re not happy either, though. Interesting. And there’s no guarantee that doing spiritual Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015 1 practice can make you a good person, is going to satisfy the hunger that we bring into this life, satisfy our desires. We might go through our whole lives hungry without ever taking care of ourselves, without ever feeding ourselves what we need because we might think it’s not spiritual or it might hide our neurosis behind that kind of thinking that desires aren’t good for us. That they lead us into delusion, and pain, and suffering. It’s funny because Hanuman is considered... There’s a verse in Sanskrit which I’ve forgotten, but it says, “Not only does Hanuman give Mukti, liberation, but he also satisfies all the desires of the heart at the same time.” So these desires are not considered to be a problem. Maharaj-ji used to say, “You can’t speak to a hungry man about God. Feed him first.” If you’re hungry, food is on your mind, no matter what you think you want to eat. So it’s good to do practice, but it’s also good to pay attention to what we want out of life, to what we want to be, what role we want to play in our own little dramas this life. It can’t be ignored. If you ignore that stuff just slaps you around from behind, like Kevin. So do not ignore the Kevin in your life. Anybody have questions or anything? [Participant] This is not a deep question. How do you make chai in the bathroom? [KD] How do you make what? [Participant] How do you make chai on a yoga math in the bathroom? [KD] Carefully. You get a little heater, a little electric heater, a little hot pot, you grate the ginger, put the cardamom. I have a big suitcase just for chai. Why do I travel with ten Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015 2 suitcases? That’s why. It’s good. It becomes a ritual. With great awareness, that would be the right answer. Grating the ginger. Grate, grate, grate. [Participant] So, I have a question. It’s about dealing... Dealing is probably not the right word, but being with other people’s suffering. Someone who is very close and you want to do something or influence something. It seems to be beyond reach, you know, and for me it kind of ticks me off sometimes. But I see that level and I don’t see an apparent window or door that’s open to that person. I’m not sure what to do myself, but I wonder how it is that people get stuck so long in that. [KD] Those are two different questions. One of them does not have an answer, which is why. Deal with it the best you can. Try to help whenever you can help in whatever way you can help. You try not to project your own imagination on their suffering. It’s not easy to do that. It’s not easy to prevent yourself from doing it. We tend to very quickly throw more fuel on the fire for ourselves. In other words, we can project somebody’s pain to b even greater than it is. Because we can’t know what they’re experiencing. One time Mrs. Tewari was... She had very bad diabetes her whole life because Maharaj-ji had saved Mr. Tewari’s life when he was much younger and told him that from that point on, he should become a frutarian and eat no grains. So, from that point on in life he did that, and being a good Indian wife, she also decided to follow that diet. As a result she couldn’t take the kind of medicine she needed to keep her blood sugar under control, so by the time she got older she suffered horrendously from neuropathy and pain, it was just unbelievable. We used to call her hands of stone, she couldn’t feel anything, she couldn’t... her feet, her hands and other parts of the body had lost feeling. So one time I was sitting in the room with her and she was lying on the bed, just writhing in agony. I said, “Ma, are you okay?” And she just Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015 3 looked at me and she said, “Inside all right. Machine broken.” Really. So, really. I mean, that’s what she was experiencing. She was perfectly fine inside, with the pain, with the suffering, with everything that went with it. She saw the machine is broken and it wasn’t... it didn’t affect her that much. It’s really extraordinary. I mean, these were amazing beings, amazing people who had been immersed in Maharaj-ji their whole lives. But I was sitting there kind of adding on to the thing in my mind, thinking, “Oh, this is so horrible, how could this be, why is this, and this and that, so terrible, why shpuld she suffer like this, she’s such a good person, it’s so terrible.” And, really, she wasn’t suffering the way I would’ve been suffering in the same circumstances. It’s good to see that in oneself. And then whatever you can do, you can do. We don’t know why this is things happen to us or to other people. You know, the laws of cause and effect are very... They’re laws, that’s things work a certain way. I told you that story yesterday about Sudama and Sunanda. I don’t know why they all... They all came together to die within a year. It’s extraordinary, you never... When thy got married, and their first throws of romantic love... They weren’t planning on that. That’s not the way they saw their lives as the way they were going to go. But that’s the way they went. And you can say, “How could that happen, they were with Maharaj-ji.” Well, it happened. You know, Dada was such a great devotee of Maharaj-ji’s and these people had such living faith, such deep... Their lives were completely inside of Him and they lived in it, it affected their lives, you could see the way they lived. One time an Englishman had come... An English guy came to India before we got there and he spent some time with Maharaj-ji and then Maharaj-ji sent him to Dada’s house in Alahabad. Apparently there was some trouble because these people wanted to eat meat, this Englishman and his girlfriend, they were missing meat, so they asked Dada to make meat. But he’s a very strict Bengali Brahman and they couldn’t do that. And then the other thing is that they were up in their room all the time with the door closed all day long, and they never came down and socialized with the family, so other people who knew Dada and were coming to the house started to say that they were spies for Pakistan, this was during the Yogaville, Virginia - Recorded on Sunday, May 24, 2015 4 war, and telling dada to throw them out and get rid of them, they were spies. And Dada was just saying, “Shut up.” [Laughs.] So finally Dada arranged for them to go to some other house where they could... meat was prepared, so they could get their diet taken care of. And finally they moved one day after much, you know, all kinds of craziness. So, the minute then move out of the house, a car pulls up, Maharaj-ji arrives. And he comes in, and he sits down, and he says, “So, what’s happening?” And Dada says, “Nothing.” “No, tell me, what happened?” He says, “Well, they were here and...” “And then what?” “And they wanted to...” “And then what?” Dada says, “Why are you asking me? You know everything.” “Oh, just asking.” And then he says, “And then when people said they were spies, what did you say? What did you do? What did you say?” And Dada was quiet.