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Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Fifth Session - Thirty-Sixth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Louise M. Dacquay Speaker Vol. XLIX No. 60 - 1:30 p.m., Wednesday, July 14, 1999 ISSN 0542-5492 MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Sixth Legislature Member Constituency Political Affiliation ASHTON, Steve Thompson N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky WeJlington N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUAY, Louise, Hon. Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Roblin-Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary Concordia N.D.P. DOWNEY, James Arthur-Virden P.C. DRIEDGER, Albert Steinbach P.C. DRIEDGER, Myrna Charleswood P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside P.C. EVANS, Clif Interlake N.D.P. EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East N.D.P. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo P.C. FINDLAY, Glen Springfield P.C. FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley N.D.P. GILLESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa P.C. HEL WER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Flon N.D.P. KOWALSKI, Gary The Maples Lib. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord St. Johns N.D.P. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McALPINE, Gerry Sturgeon Creek P.C. McCRAE, James, Hon. Brandon West P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane Osborne N.D.P. MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia P.C. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn St. James N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East P.C. NEWMAN, David, Hon. Riel P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PITURA, Frank, Hon. Moms P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet P.C. RADCLIFFE, Mike, Hon. River Heights P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack, Hon. Niakwa P.C. RENDER, Shirley, Hon. St. Vital P.C. ROBINSON, Eric Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Gladstone P.C. SALE, Tim Crescentwood N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Broadway N.D.P. STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin N.D.P. SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye P.C. TOEWS, Vic, Hon. Rossmere P.C. TWEED, Mervin, Hon. Turtle Mountain P.C. VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. Fort Garry P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River N.D.P. Vacant St. Boniface 4263 LEGISLATIV E ASSEMBLY OF MA NITOBA Wednesday, July 14, 1999 The House met at 1:30 p. m. Public Insurance for the three months ended May 31, 1999. Thank you. PRAYERS ORA L QU ESTION PERIOD ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS Virology Lab Wastewater PRE SENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPE CIAL COMMITTEE S Mr. Gary Doer (Leader of the Opposition): Madam Speaker, the 2,000 litres of discharge Committee of Supply into the river system from the federal lab with the other public issues of the Ebola virus and the Mr. Marcel Laurendeau (St. Norbert): hantavirus and other issues that are of concernto Madam Speaker. the Committee of Supply has the public, there is obviously a lot of public been considering a motion regarding con­ concern about the revelation yesterday that this currence in Supply, directs me to report amount of litres went into our water supply on progress, and asks leave to sit again. I move, June 23. seconded by the honourable member fo r LaVerendrye (Mr. Sveinson), that the report of I would like to ask the Premier what action the committee be received. did his minister take on June 24. Did we write the fe deral Minister of Health, Mr. Rock, on our Motion agreed to. concerns, and could the minister table that in the House today? Introduction of Guests Hon. Linda Mcintosh (Minister of Madam Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, Environment): Madam Speaker, I thank my would like to draw the attention of all honourable friend for the question, and I am honourable members to the loge to my left presuming he did receive material on the where we have with us this afternoon Dr. Guizar licensing that I forwarded to his office earlier Cheema, the fo rmer member for The Maples. today as requested yesterday. I should indicate to the Leader of the Opposition that on the 24th On behalf of all honourable members, of June the department itself was just being welcome you this afternoon. notified. The member may recall that both the deputy and I were at the international environ­ Hon. Linda Mci ntosh (Minister of mental conference with the fe deral minister on Env ironment): Madam Speaker, I wonder if I another issue at that time. The department, could have permission to revert momentarily to though, when they did receive the notificationon reports. the 24th, immediately contacted the provincial health authorities and the city health authorities. Madam Speaker: Does the honourable Minister The city had been alerted the day before. The of Environment have leave to revert to Tabling health authorities then made the determination as ofReports? [agreed] to whether or not there was a safety hazard and made a determination as to there being no health TABLING OF REPORTS hazard, and what kind of notification needed to be made was, of course, in their purview. Hon. Linda Mci ntosh (Minister of Environ­ ment): Madam Speaker, I am pleased to table For our part, Madam Speaker, the depart­ the quarterly financial report for the Manitoba ment then began to immediately look at the envi- 4264 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA July 14, 1999 ronmental aspects of the incident which, of like that issued by the lab just to keep people up course, is their mandate, and subsequently when to date as to the types of things that are the deputy and I returned, I was notified. By happening there for interim information in the then, of course, corrective action had been put in absence ofhazard but just for information. place by senior department officials, as they are mandated to do. Mr. Doer: Madam Speaker, it seems to me that the 2,000 litres of material released to the river Communication has taken place with senior would have indicated the intervention with the fe deral officials, in answer to the member's fe deral government at the highest level, minister question on that. to minister, on June 24, not when it becomes a public issue that we make public statements. I * (1335) am disappointed that the minister has not taken Mr. Doer: Madam Speaker, it is in the public more urgent action with the people who opened now that they have been notified, but the this lab and gave us guarantees at the time that considerable concern and the danger that people we would be safe and that this fac ility was fe el about these 2,000 litres that were discharged absolutely safe of human error, was fa ilproof. into the river system, why did the minister not write the fe deral minister upon immediately Madam Speaker, a further question to the knowing of this? Why did we not take our minister. When I read Sections 19 and 20 of the concerns directly to the top? Surely the public licence, it does provide, in my view, a urgency of this matter and the public permissive authority, the licence issued by the considerations and ramifications indicate that we province, to discharge materials to the river should be communicating at the highest level. system subject to the monitoring of the facility Why has the minister not and the Premier (Mr. itself and the treatment by the fac ility itself. Filmon) not done that with the fe deral government? So is the minister not in agreement that the statement made by the fo rmer minister that these Mrs. Mcintosh: Madam Speaker, the member materials would be contained-the licence is should know, I believe I did indicate, that permissive and the authority to do so is with the communication began immediately the province lab itself. was notified between the province and the fe deral government and between the city and the Mrs. Mci ntosh: Madam Speaker, the member fe deral government. There has been a tremen­ asked a question like this yesterday. It was dous amount of work going on between and worded a little differently, but it had some of the amongst the engineers at the city and provincial same content that I took as notice. So I will levels in terms of examining processes. Indeed, maybe answer both with my response now. senior officials have been taking a look at processes, and no work will be proceeding in the In terms of discharges from the lab, as the higher level lab until those procedures are member knows or as citizens do know, there are verifiedas being pure. three kinds of water. There is sterile water that is absolutely sterilized; there is normal water that Madam Speaker, I would expect that at the would have things in it but not of a health meeting that is scheduled to take place next hazard; and then there is contaminated water week between the city, the province and the which will have a variety of contaminants fr om fe deral government, which was established some mild to serious. Any wastewater coming out of time ago, a meeting to come together to take a the lab is to be in the sterile category. It has to look at all of the ramifications of that incident to be disinfected; it has to go through a series of ensure that there can be no repeat, I think is quite steps; it has to be sterilized.
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