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Fourth Session- Thirty-Sixth Legislature of the Legislative Assembly of -Manitoba DEBATES and PROCEEDINGS Official Report (Hansard) Published under the authority of The Honourable Louise M. Dacquay Speaker Vol. XLVIII No. 45 -1:30 p.m., Monday, May 11, 1998 - ? MANITOBA LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY Thirty-Sixth Legislature Member Constituency Political Aff"IIiation ASHTON, Steve Thompson N.D.P. BARRETT, Becky Wellington N.D.P. CERILLI, Marianne Radisson N.D.P. CHOMIAK, Dave Kildonan N.D.P. CUMMINGS, Glen, Hon. Ste. Rose P.C. DACQUA Y, Louise, Hon. Seine River P.C. DERKACH, Leonard, Hon. Roblin-Russell P.C. DEWAR, Gregory Selkirk N.D.P. DOER, Gary Concordia N.D.P. DOWNEY, James, Hon. Arthur-Virden P.C. DRIEDGER, Albert Steinbach P.C. DYCK, Peter Pembina P.C. ENNS, Harry, Hon. Lakeside P.C. EVANS, Clif Interlake N.D.P. EVANS, Leonard S. Brandon East N.D.P. FAURSCHOU, David Portage Ia Prairie P.C. FILMON, Gary, Hon. Tuxedo P.C. FINDLAY, Glen, Hon. Springfield P.C. FRIESEN, Jean Wolseley N.D.P. GAUDRY, Neil St. Boniface Lib. GILLESHAMMER, Harold, Hon. Minnedosa P.C. HELWER, Edward Gimli P.C. HICKES, George Point Douglas N.D.P. JENNISSEN, Gerard Flin Pion N.D.P. KOWALSKI, Gary The Maples Lib. LAMOUREUX, Kevin Inkster Lib. LATHLIN, Oscar The Pas N.D.P. LAURENDEAU, Marcel St. Norbert P.C. MACKINTOSH, Gord St. Johns N.D.P. MALOWAY, Jim Elmwood N.D.P. MARTINDALE, Doug Burrows N.D.P. McALPINE, Gerry Sturgeon Creek P.C. McCRAE, James, Hon. Brandon West P.C. McGIFFORD, Diane Osborne N.D.P. MciNTOSH, Linda, Hon. Assiniboia P.C. MIHYCHUK, MaryAnn St. James N.D.P. MITCHELSON, Bonnie, Hon. River East P.C. NEWMAN, David, Hon. Riel P.C. PENNER, Jack Emerson P.C. PITURA, Frank, Hon. Morris P.C. PRAZNIK, Darren, Hon. Lac du Bonnet P.C. RADCLIFFE, Mike, Hon. River Heights P.C. REID, Daryl Transcona N.D.P. REIMER, Jack, Hon. Niakwa P.C. RENDER, Shirley St. Vital P.C. ROBINSON, Eric Rupertsland N.D.P. ROCAN, Denis Gladstone P.C. SALE, Tim Crescentwood N.D.P. SANTOS, Conrad Broadway N.D.P. STEFANSON, Eric, Hon. Kirkfield Park P.C. STRUTHERS, Stan Dauphin N.D.P. SVEINSON, Ben La Verendrye P.C. TOEWS, Vic, Hon. Rossmere P.C. TWEED, Mervin Turtle Mountain P.C. VODREY, Rosemary, Hon. Fort Garry P.C. WOWCHUK, Rosann Swan River N.D.P. Vacant Charleswood 2805 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA Monday, May 11, 1998 The House met at 1:30 p.m. WHEREAS the Mi ning Reserve Fund was set up for the welfare and empl oy ment of persons resi ding in a PRAYERS mining communitywhich may be adversely aff ected by the total or partial suspension or the cl osing down of ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS mining op eration s attributable to the depl etion of ore deposits; and PRESENTING PETITIONS WHEREAS the provincial gov ernment has withdrawn Winnipeg Hospitals Food Services-Privatization $6 million from the Mi ning Reserv e Fund and put this money into gen eral revenue; and Mr. Gregory Dewar (Selkirk): Madam Speaker, I beg to present the petition of H. Nanocowy, R. Bouchie, E. WHEREAS many mining communities having Clarke andothers praying that the Legislative Assembly contributed millions of dollars to the provincial of Manitoba urge the Minister of Health (Mr. Praznik) economy for many years are now nearing the end of to put an end to the centralization and privatization of their known ore resources. Winnipeg hospital fo od services. WHEREFORE YOUR PE TITIONERS HUMBLY PR AY Mr. George Hickes (Point Douglas): Madam that the Legislative Assembly of Manitob a may be Speaker, I beg to present the petition of M. Lentowich, pl eas ed to req uest the Mi nister of Energy and Mi nes to L. Cann, R. Valez and others praying the Legislative consider immediately restoring the $6 million taken Assembly of Manitoba urge the Minister of Health to from the Mi ning Rese rve Fund. put an end to the centralization and privatization of Winnipeg hospital food services. Winnipeg Hospitals Food Services-Privatization Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the READING AND RECEIVING PETITIONS honourable member for Elmwood (Mr. Maloway), and it complies with the rules and practices of the House. Mining Reserve Fund Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? Madam Speaker: I have reviewed the petition of the An Honourable Member: Dispense. honourable member for Flin Flon (Mr. Jennissen), and it complies with the rules and practices of the House. Madam Speaker: Dispense. Is it the will of the House to have the petition read? TH AT the Urban Shared Services Corporation (USSC) An Honourable Member: Dispense. has announ ced pl ans to privatiz e laundry,food services an dpurchasing for the Winnipeg hospi tals; an d Madam Speaker: Dispense. THATit is estimated that more than 1,000 health care WHEREAS mining is a billion dollar industry in jobs will be lost ov er the next year as a result, with Manitoba di rectly empl oying more than 4,300 peopl e many more privatized in the next tw o or three years; pumping more than $240 million in wages alone into and the Manitob a economy; an d TH AT un der the terms of the con tract, Ontari o WHEREASpart of the mining tax es on op erating mines businesses will profi t at the expense of Manitob a' s goes into the Mi ning Reserve Fund; an d health care system; and 2806 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA May 11, 1998 TH AT after constr uction of a food assembly warehouse TABLING OF REPORTS in Winnipeg, chilled, prepared food will be shipped in from Ontari o, then assembledan d heated before being Hon. James McCrae (Minister of Environment): shipped to the hospi tals; and Thank you, Madam Speaker. I am pleased to table Supplementary Information fo r Legislative Review for TH ATpeo pl e who are in the hospi tal req ui re nutri ti ous 1998-99 with respect to the Sustainable Development and appetizing food; and Innovations Fund and with respect to Manitoba Environment. THATthe announced savings as a result of the contract have been di sp uted, and on e study by Wintemute INTRODUCTION OF BILLS Randle Kilimnik indicated that, "A considerable numb er of studies have compared costs of service Bill 45-The Manitoba Public Insurance delivery in health care between self-operation (public Corporation Amendment Act sector) and privatization. Invariably, privatization is more expensive. "; an d Hon. James McCrae (Minister charged with the administration of The Manitoba Public Insurance THAT no one in Manitob a seems to benefitfrom this Corporation Act): Madam Speaker, I move, seconded con tract, especially patients. by the honourable Minister of Family Services (Mrs. Mitchelson), that leave be given to introduce Bill 45, WHEREFORE YOUR PE TITIONERSHUM BLY PR AY The Manitoba Public Insurance Corporation that the Legi slative Assembly of Manitob a urge the Amendment Act (Loi modifiant Ia Loi sur Ia Societe Mi nister of Heal th to put an end to the centralization d'assurance publique du Manitoba), and that the same an d privatization of Winnipeg hospi tal food services. be now received and read a firsttime. PRESENTING REPORTS BY His Honour the Lieutenant Governor, having been STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES advised of the contents of this bill, recommends it to the House. I would like to table the Lieutenant Committee of Supply Governor's message. Motion agreed to. Mr. Marcel Laurendeau (Chairperson): Madam Speaker, the Committee of Supply has adopted certain Bill 54-The Engineering and Geoscientific resolutions, directs me to report the same and asks Professions and Consequential leave to sit again. Amendments Act I move, seconded by the honourable member for Hon. Harold Gilleshammer (Minister of Labour): Turtle Mountain (Mr. Tweed), that the report of the Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable committee be received. Minister of Rural Development (Mr. Derkach), that leave be given to introduce Bill 54, The Engineering Motion agreed to. and Geoscientific Professions and Consequential Amendments Act; Loi sur Ies ingenieurs et les * * * geoscientifiques et modifications correlatives, and that the same be now received and read a first time. Hon. James McCrae (Minister of Environment): Motion agreed to. Madam Speaker, I wonder if there would be leave to revert to Ministerial Statements and Tabling of Reports. Bill 55-The Certified Applied Science Technologists Act Madam Speaker: Is there leave of the House to revert to Ministerial Statements and Tabling of Reports? Hon. Harold Gilleshammer (Minister of Labour): [agreed] Madam Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable May 11, 1998 LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF MANITOBA 2807 Minister of Rural Development (Mr. Derkach), that discussions followed which in fact led to the Chief leave be given to introduce Bill 55, The Certified Judge taking certain steps, but I might indicate that Applied Science Technologists Act; Loi sur les throughout the course of the discussion with the Chief technologues agrees des sciences appliquees, and that Judge, I certainly raised no names with the Chief Judge, the same be now received and read a first time. suggested no names, and did nothing improper in that respect. Motion agreed to. Mr. Doer: Madam Speaker, the minister again * (1335) contradicted what he said in this House on Thursday: the suggestion that the list was to be expanded to Introduction of Guests include bilingual candidates in fa ct was not a suggestion made by me. It was a suggestion made by Madam Speaker: Prior to Oral Questions, I would the chairperson ofthat committee when she came to me like to draw the attention of all honourable members to in respect of this particular issue.
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