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DAILY YOUR VOICE IN PARLIAMENT THE SECONDTHE SECOND MEETING MEETING O OFF THE FIRST FIFTH SESSION SESSION OF THEOF ELEVENTHE TWELFTHTH PARLIAMENT PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 06 FEBRUARY 2020 MIXED VERSION HANSARDHANSARD NO. 193196 DISCLAIMER Unocial Hansard This transcript of Parliamentary proceedings is an unocial version of the Hansard and may contain inaccuracies. It is hereby published for general purposes only. The nal edited version of the Hansard will be published when available and can be obtained from the Assistant Clerk (Editorial). THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SPEAKER The Hon. Phandu T. C. Skelemani PH, MP. DEPUTY SPEAKER The Hon. Mabuse M. Pule, MP. (Mochudi East) Clerk of the National Assembly - Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly - Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel - Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) - Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. - President His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) - Vice President Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. (Molepolole South) - Administration Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (Gabane-Mmankgodi) - Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) - Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) - Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) - Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. (Tlokweng) - Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. (Mogoditshane) - Development Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. (Gaborone Bonnington North) - Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. (Lobatse) - Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) - Minister of Basic Education Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. (Ramotswa) - Energy Security Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) - Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) - Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. (Lerala -Maunatlala) - Development Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) - Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (Lentsweletau-Mmopane) - Assistant Minister, Basic Education Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (Moshupa-Manyana) - Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. (Francistown East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) - Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES Names Constituency RULING PARTY (Botswana Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) Letlhakeng-Lephephe Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. Jwaneng-Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata-Gweta Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Takatokwane Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. Thamaga-Kumakwane Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. Ghanzi North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Tonota Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP Mahalapye East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Shoshong Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Bobonong Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Palapye Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. Serowe West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 06 FEBRUARY, 2020 CONTENTS PAGE (S) QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER.............................................................................................................1-8 Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill, 2020 (No.2 of 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)..................................................................................................................9-36 Thursday 6th February, 2020 QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER Thursday 6th February, 2020 the administrative process I have just outlined. Clearly, some major changes/corrections in the process have to THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. take place. (THE SPEAKER in the Chair) Mr Speaker, to improve on service delivery regarding P R A Y E R S payments of students’ allowances, the ministry is presently in commercial consultations with Botswana * * * * Post (the entity to contract to disburse the allowances) regarding the best possible payment method that can QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER reduce the turn-around time drastically. LATE PAYMENT OF STUDENTS ALLOWANCE Poso-Money and the associated enabling technological AT NATA-GWETA BRIGADE interventions is a consideration in this respect. This is work in progress but we are pursuing a mobile-funds MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the wallet which learners can access at their convenience Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and and without being restricted to a specific time-window Skills Development if he is aware that Nata/Gweta of making withdrawals, as is the case presently. Brigade students do not get their allowances on time and therefore are unable to pay their rentals. The proposed solution is intended to have management control benefits such as the ministry being able to MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR reconcile and check balances on line. PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT (MR BALOPI): Good afternoon and thank you Mr Mr Speaker, that is where we are headed. It is my Speaker. expectation that our contracted services provider will help deliver the required technology-driven solutions Mr Speaker, I am aware that learners in all brigade sooner rather than later. I thank you Mr Speaker. institutions and technical colleges and not just Nata/ Gweta Brigade, have not received their January 2020 MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary. Ke ne ke re ke allowances. The delay is a consequence of the students’ botse Tona ke lebile tlhaloso ya gagwe. Fa o lebeletse, a registration and payment control process, which mme re mo nakong sentle ka gore dilo tse tsa technology presently takes up to 25 working days before learners ga di a bolo go boaboa, le kwa Ipelegeng five years ago, can be paid. This happens at the beginning of each re setse re fetile ka tsone? A mme re mo nakong sentle semester. ya go araba letshwenyego la baithuti ka gore gompieno, According to Section 8.6 of the Learners Rules and sekai: go romela ngwana kwa brigade, o a bo o tshwana Regulations Manual, students are given and have le motho o mo atlholetse matshwenyego? Tona, a mme accepted a period of 10 working days to either register re mo nakong tota? Go tlaabo go diragetse mo nakong and/or attend classes before disbursements of allowances e e kae gore problem e re bo re e bitsa gore ke ya can be made. The rationale of this is to let institutions bogologolo, e sa tlhole e le teng ka gore gompieno bana observe the enrolment list (monitor late arrivals and ba bangwe ba kwa malwapeng, ba tlogetse gotlhelele? drop-outs) before a cut-off for payment is determined. MR BALOPI: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ga ke Upon the lapse of the 10-day grace period, another tlhaloganye gore Rre Moswaane fa a re mo nakong o administrative process which can take up to 15 days raya efe because it is a bit complex. Even this morning, between the institutions and ministry’s headquarters sets we met le batho ba Poso House to try and resolve this in. This process is what results in payments being made problem. Ke maikaelelo a rona go leka gore re fefose long after the day of opening. In this sense, although the tiro e re tshwanetseng gore re e dire gore baithuti ba current semester started on the 7th January 2020, it is bone dituelo tsa bone ka nako. Se se botlhokwa se o true that allowances still remain unpaid. tshwanetseng gore o se lemoge Rre Moswaane, kana kgang e ga se gore e diragala kgwedi le kgwedi, e Honourable Members, I must inform you that