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Clerk of the National Assembly -- Ms B. N. Dithapo Deputy Clerk of the National Assembly -- Mr L. T. Gaolaolwe Learned Parliamentary Counsel -- Ms M. Mokgosi Assistant Clerk (E) -- Mr R. Josiah CABINET His Excellency Dr M. E. K. Masisi, MP. --President

His Honour S. Tsogwane, MP. (Boteti West) --Vice President -Minister for Presidential Affairs, Governance and Public Hon. K. N. S. Morwaeng, MP. ( South) - Administration

Hon. K. T. Mmusi, MP. (-) --Minister of Defence, Justice and Security Hon. Dr U. Dow, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of International Affairs and Cooperation Hon. E. M. Molale, MP. (Goodhope-Mabule ) --Minister of Local Government and Rural Development Hon. Dr E. G. Dikoloti MP. (Mmathethe-Molapowabojang) --Minister of Agricultural Development and Food Security -Minister of Environment, Natural Resources Conservation Hon. P. K. Kereng, MP. (Specially Elected) - and Tourism Hon. Dr L. Kwape, MP. (Kanye South) --Minister of Health and Wellness Hon. T.M. Segokgo, MP. () --Minister of Transport and Communications Hon. K. Mzwinila, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Land Management, Water and Sanitation Services -Minister of Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. T. M. Rakgare, MP. () - Development

Hon. A. M. Mokgethi, MP. ( Bonnington North) --Minister of Nationality, Immigration and Gender Affairs Hon. Dr T. Matsheka, MP. () --Minister of Finance and Economic Development Hon. F. M. M. Molao, MP. (Shashe West) --Minister of Basic Education -Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Hon. Dr D. Letsholathebe, MP. (Tati East) - Technology -Minister of Mineral Resources, Green Technology and Hon. L. M. Moagi, MP. () - Energy Security

Hon. P. O. Serame, MP. (Specially Elected) --Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry -Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and Skills Hon. M. Balopi, MP. (Gaborone North) - Development

Hon. M. Kgafela, MP. (Mochudi West) --Minister of Infrastructure and Housing Development

-Assistant Minister, Presidential Affairs, Governance and Hon. D. M. Mthimkhulu, MP. (Gaborone South) - Public Administration -Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. K. K. Autlwetse, MP. (Specially Elected) - Development -Assistant Minister, Local Government and Rural Hon. S. N. Modukanele, MP. ( -Maunatlala) - Development -Assistant Minister, Agricultural Development and Food Hon. B. Manake, MP. (Specially Elected) - Security

Hon. S. Lelatisitswe, MP. (Boteti East) --Assistant Minister, Health and Wellness

Hon. N. W. T. Makwinja, MP. (-) --Assistant Minister, Basic Education

Hon. K. S. Gare, MP. (-Manyana) --Assistant Minister, Investment, Trade and Industry -Assistant Minister, Youth Empowerment, Sport and Culture Hon. H. B. Billy, MP. ( East) - Development Hon. M. R. Shamukuni, MP. (Chobe) --Assistant Minister,Tertiary Education, Research, Science and Technology MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT AND THEIR CONSTITUENCIES

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RULING PARTY ( Democratic Party) Hon. L. Kablay, MP. (Government Whip) - Hon. M. R. Reatile, MP. -Mabutsane Hon. P. Majaga, MP. Nata- Hon. M. I. Moswaane, MP. Francistown West Hon. J. S. Brooks, MP. Kgalagadi South Hon. C. Greeff, MP. Gaborone Bonnington South Hon. T. Letsholo, MP. Kanye North Hon. T. F. Leuwe, MP. Hon. T. Mangwegape-Healy, MP. Gaborone Central Hon. S. N. Moabi, MP. Tati West Hon. M. S. Molebatsi, MP. Mmadinare Hon. T. Monnakgotla, MP. Kgalagadi North Hon. P. K. Motaosane, MP. - Hon. O. Regoeng, MP. Molepolole North Hon. J. L. Thiite, MP. North OPPOSITION (Umbrella for Democratic Change) Hon. D. Saleshando, MP. (Leader of Opposition) Maun West Hon. P. P. P. Moatlhodi, MP. (Opposition Whip) Hon. D. L. Keorapetse, MP. Selebi Phikwe West Hon. Y. Boko, MP East Hon. Dr K. Gobotswang, MP. Sefhare-Ramokgonami Hon. C. K. Hikuama, MP. Ngami Hon. K. K. Kapinga, MP Okavango Hon. G. Kekgonegile, MP. Maun East Hon. A. Lesaso, MP. Hon. T. B. Lucas, MP. Hon. M. G. J. Motsamai, MP. Ghanzi South Hon. K. Nkawana, MP. Selebi Phikwe East Hon. O. Ramogapi, MP. Hon. Dr N. Tshabang, MP. Nkange Hon. D. Tshere, MP. Mahalapye West (Botswana Patriotic Front) Hon. T. S. Khama, MP. West Hon. L. Lesedi, MP. Serowe South Hon. B. Mathoothe, MP. Serowe North (Alliance for Progressives) Hon. W. B. Mmolotsi, MP. Francistown South TABLE OF CONTENTS THE SECOND MEETING OF THE FIRST SESSION OF THE TWELFTH PARLIAMENT THURSDAY 06 FEBRUARY, 2020

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QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER...... 1-8 Appropriation (2020/2021) Bill, 2020 (No.2 of 2020) Second Reading (Resumed Debate)...... 9-36

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Thursday 6th February, 2020 the administrative process I have just outlined. Clearly, some major changes/corrections in the process have to THE ASSEMBLY met at 2:00 p.m. take place.

(THE SPEAKER in the Chair) Mr Speaker, to improve on service delivery regarding P R A Y E R S payments of students’ allowances, the ministry is presently in commercial consultations with Botswana * * * * Post (the entity to contract to disburse the allowances) regarding the best possible payment method that can QUESTIONS FOR ORAL ANSWER reduce the turn-around time drastically. LATE PAYMENT OF STUDENTS ALLOWANCE Poso-Money and the associated enabling technological AT NATA-GWETA BRIGADE interventions is a consideration in this respect. This is work in progress but we are pursuing a mobile-funds MR P. MAJAGA (NATA-GWETA): asked the wallet which learners can access at their convenience Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and and without being restricted to a specific time-window Skills Development if he is aware that Nata/Gweta of making withdrawals, as is the case presently. Brigade students do not get their allowances on time and therefore are unable to pay their rentals. The proposed solution is intended to have management control benefits such as the ministry being able to MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR reconcile and check balances on line. PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT (MR BALOPI): Good afternoon and thank you Mr Mr Speaker, that is where we are headed. It is my Speaker. expectation that our contracted services provider will help deliver the required technology-driven solutions Mr Speaker, I am aware that learners in all brigade sooner rather than later. I thank you Mr Speaker. institutions and technical colleges and not just Nata/ Gweta Brigade, have not received their January 2020 MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary. Ke ne ke re ke allowances. The delay is a consequence of the students’ botse Tona ke lebile tlhaloso ya gagwe. Fa o lebeletse, a registration and payment control process, which mme re mo nakong sentle ka gore dilo tse tsa technology presently takes up to 25 working days before learners ga di a bolo go boaboa, le kwa Ipelegeng five years ago, can be paid. This happens at the beginning of each re setse re fetile ka tsone? A mme re mo nakong sentle semester. ya go araba letshwenyego la baithuti ka gore gompieno, According to Section 8.6 of the Learners Rules and sekai: go romela ngwana kwa brigade, o a bo o tshwana Regulations Manual, students are given and have le motho o mo atlholetse matshwenyego? Tona, a mme accepted a period of 10 working days to either register re mo nakong tota? Go tlaabo go diragetse mo nakong and/or attend classes before disbursements of allowances e e kae gore problem e re bo re e bitsa gore ke ya can be made. The rationale of this is to let institutions bogologolo, e sa tlhole e le teng ka gore gompieno bana observe the enrolment list (monitor late arrivals and ba bangwe ba kwa malwapeng, ba tlogetse gotlhelele? drop-outs) before a cut-off for payment is determined. MR BALOPI: Thank you Mr Speaker. Ga ke Upon the lapse of the 10-day grace period, another tlhaloganye gore Rre Moswaane fa a re mo nakong o administrative process which can take up to 15 days raya efe because it is a bit complex. Even this morning, between the institutions and ministry’s headquarters sets we met le batho ba Poso House to try and resolve this in. This process is what results in payments being made problem. Ke maikaelelo a rona go leka gore re fefose long after the day of opening. In this sense, although the tiro e re tshwanetseng gore re e dire gore baithuti ba current semester started on the 7th January 2020, it is bone dituelo tsa bone ka nako. Se se botlhokwa se o true that allowances still remain unpaid. tshwanetseng gore o se lemoge Rre Moswaane, kana kgang e ga se gore e diragala kgwedi le kgwedi, e Honourable Members, I must inform you that I diragala fa dikolo di bulwa mabaka e le gore ba bangwe readily share the concerns highlighted by Honourable ba a tla ka fa re boleletsweng ka teng, ba tsaya madi, fa Majaga`s question, and I can also relate to the ba sena go nna ba duelwa that very week, they abscond. underlying frustrations of the students as a result of Ba bo ba tlhopha go ya go sele kante ba dumeletswe go

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sele, kgotsa ba tsaya tshwetso epe. Ke sone se o bonang Sport and Culture Development to update this go nnile le tumalano gareng ga baithuti le ministry gore Honourable House on the current state of the Gaborone go nne le malatsi a a bewang gore go tlhomamisiwe gore West Youth Centre (Mma Masire). batho bao have enrolled kgotsa ba teng. Motlotlegi, ke ka maikaelelo a rona gore re dire jalo go fefosa gore mo Later Date. tsamaong ya nako, baithuti ba se ka ba nna ba tlhaela go tsena classes, ba tsamaya ba ya go batla madi. Ke sone UPGRADING MABABE HEALTH POST se re buang ka this Poso Money Ewallet process gore motho a bo a bona fela madi a gagwe a tsena, go tswa MR G. KEKGONEGILE (MAUN EAST): asked foo e bo e le gone a itseng gore madi a teng, ke ka ya go the Minister of Health and Wellness if he will consider thusega. Ke a leboga rraetsho. upgrading Mababe Health Post to a specialised clinic to serve the entire labour force and communities in Savuti, DR GOBOTSWANG: Supplementary. Tona, golo fa Moremi, Khwai and Mababe concessions, given the ke gore ke a ipotsa; le amogetse bana ba se kana ka sepe mo brigades, le ba ruta courses tse di seng accredited. long distances to adequate facilities, terrain travelled Gompieno ba ba leng teng ga le ba duele. Tota ke eng and worsening conflicts between tourism workers and Minister se se berekang kwa ministry wa gago? Ke a employers in the delta due to increasing number of non- leboga. issuance of permits to attend health facilities in Maun.

MR BALOPI: Ke a leboga rraetsho. Ke a leboga ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND Honourable Gobotswang. Kana tota potso e o e botsang, WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Ke a leboga ke e e leng gore gongwe ke ne ke ka e araba ka tsela e Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Ntlo e. Ke supe jalo gore go e rileng. Kana fa gongwe o kgona gore e re o le motho araba potso e re e beilweng pele fa ke Lephata le ke le o tsaya gore o dira sentle e bile o gatetse pele, o bo o tsenwa ke bokoa, bo kgona gore bo go ise diagelong, okametseng la Botsogo… kante o ye go nna lebakayana o le kwa o leng teng mme e HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… … se gore maikaelelo a gago e ne e le go batla go lwala, e le (Inaudible)… gore o ne o batlile gore o tshele o nonofile mo mmeleng. Ka jalo, ke maikaelelo a rona gore ntswa re nnile le MR LELATISITSWE: Ke kopa o ntshireletse Mr mathata a a tseneletseng a gore go bo go nnile le bothata Speaker. jo re buileng ka jone gantsintsi, kgapetsakgapetsa, jwa dituelo bo diragala fela jaaka ngwaga e simologa jaana. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Inaudible)… Go tswa foo maikaelelo a rona ke gore re bo re bo dira… MR SPEAKER (MR SKELEMANI): Honourable Jaanong mo go berekang ke gone gore we are coming up Minister, you are protected. with solutions to resolve these problems for good. Ke a leboga Honourable Speaker. MR LELATISITSWE: Lephata le ke le okametseng la Botsogo le na le maikaelelo a go tsholetsa clinic PLANS FOR LENTSWELETAU-MOLEPOLOLE kana kokelwana ya Mababe go e isa fa kokelwaneng ROAD e e fa godimo, go tswa mo gotweng health post to a MR P. K. MOTAOSANE (THAMAGA- clinic. Ka ntlha ya tlhaelo ya madi, ga go a kgonega KUMAKWANE): asked the Minister of Transport gore kokelwana e, e tsene mo lenaneong la gompieno and Communications if he is aware that Lentsweletau- la ditlhabololo. Ke supe jalo Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo Molepolole road was once planned for; if so, to update tsa Palamente gore, yone kokelwana e e kwa tlase ya this Honourable House on the current status of this road Mababe, e wela mo setlhophaneng sa dikokelwana or any alternative plans to ensure that people are able to se se bidiwang Bojanala Cluster; se mo go sone re access services in Lentsweletau. bonang clinic kana kokelwana ya Shorobe, Matsaudi, Sankoyo le yone ya Mababe village. Setlhophana se sa Later Date. dikokelwana ka fa di bapileng ka teng, re na le ngaka e e leng gore kgwedi le kgwedi e tsamaya le tsone, e STATE OF THE GABORONE WEST YOUTH tsamaya e ntse e tlhatlhoba balwetse mo kgaolwaneng e CENTRE (MMA MASIRE) ya Bojanala; ka fa re e bitsang ka teng ka fa botsogong. MR C. GREEFF (GABORONE BONNINGTON Ke tsaya gore Mopalamente o itse dikgaolo tse ke di SOUTH): asked the Minister of Youth Empowerment, buang tse ka gore o tswa kwa go tsone.

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Ke supe gape Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente lephata la gago ga le nke le busa madi a le sa kgoneng gore, lone lephata le le ke le okametseng le, le na le gore go a dirisa ngwaga le ngwaga? A tlhaelo e, e feta madi a le etele batho kwa dikampeng, gone kwa bo Khwai, le a busang? Thank you. Savuti, ba tsamaya ba tlhola balwetse kgwedi le kgwedi. Ba dikologa le kgaolo ele ba tlhola balwetse le bana jalo, MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa ba bangwe ba kadisa bana ka gore re itse gore batho ba Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ga ke ka ke ka ganetsa gore ba phatlaletseng mo dikampeng, bangwe ba tlhokana le lephata le ke le okametseng le, le a tle le buse madi. booki; bana ba ba kwa tlase, mme go lebelelwa tsone Mabaka a mantsi kana a go busa madi, fa gongwe jaaka dikgang tse. Dikampa tse di etelwang ke ya Moremi, re ntse jaana re tsamaisa Puso, o fitlhela e le gore fa Khwai le ya Savuti. Motlotlegi Mopalamente, fa e gongwe bone bo rradikonteraka ba, ba a ipelaetsa. Fa le gore ke batho ba ba batlang dilo tsa botsogo tse di gongwe jone bodirelapuso jo re nang le jone, bo felela tsamaelanang le tsa mebereko, mo gotweng job related bo tlhaela gore madi a re kgone go a dirisa otlhe, mme medical examinations, bone ba thusiwa mo sepateleng a felela a boa. Ka fa re tsamaisang Puso ka teng, selo se setona sa Maun; ke gone fa re ba tlhokomelelang teng. se tsenngwa mo lenaneong la ditlhabololo pele. Ga Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. e ka ke ya re tsamaya re lebile kwa Francistown, re MR MAJAGA: Supplementary. Motlotlegi Tona, bo re utlwa gotwe go na le tsela e e tsamayang ka fa tota ba ne ba re ka Tona wa lephata o mo Ntlong, ene Mmashoro and then we turn jaana. Re tsamaya fela mo mogoloo, that is why ba sa re go molato gore o re o tseleng e e leng gore lona le le Palamente, le e rebotse ka okametse. Ba ne ba re mong wa lephata o teng… lenaneo la ditlhabololo. Ke ne ke re bue Setswana gore (Laughter!)…Mr Speaker, ke ne ke re ke botse Tona re tlhaloganyesane thata mokaulengwe. gore tota ka Motlotlegi Mopalamente o batla gore go HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. dirwe a centre point e e ka thusang those health posts at a time, se se palang fela se Mothusa Tona a ka MR SPEAKER: Last supplementary. bolelelang Ntlo e, ke eng ka gore golo mo mo gotweng, “we will visit, we will visit, there is a team visiting,” MR KEKGONEGILE: Further supplementary. Tanki Mr Speaker. Honourable Assistant Minister, I think it has proved not working mo mafelong a a tshwanang you missed the main point within the question. It is le a Motlotlegi a a okametseng jaaka nna ke na le bo of specialized clinic, not upgrading from health post Thabatshukudu, Tswaane, Maleleng, ba tsamaya fela fa to clinic; that is the bone of contention. Honourable ba utlwa gotwe Tona o tla koo kana Mopalamente o ya Matsheka maloba talked a lot about transformation and go tshwara phuthego. Se se palang gore le le a ministry not doing business as usual. Kana jaanong upgrading le dire sengwe se se thusang Batswana ke eng, than to from health post to clinic in an area that is quite unique cut off these expenses tsa regular visits? needs not doing business as usual. So what are you MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa saying? Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke arabe Mopalamente HONOURABLE MEMBER: O mo business as usual. yo ke mo ratang Rre Polson Majaga ke re, mathata a mangwefela jaaka ke buile. Ke buile gore lephata le le MR KEKGONEGILE: Are you saying that there is no ke le okametseng le, mathata a lone a matona gore re need for a specialised clinic in that unique area? se ka ra kgona go godisa kokelwana e, ke tlhaelo ya madi. Ke keletso ya me gore le mo dikgaolong tsone Secondly… tsa gagwe tse, re leke go godisa dikokelwana tse ke di HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible) … itseng. Ke tlhaelo ya madi e e leng gore ke tsaya gore le tloga le a golola mo bogaufing le le Palamente ya Ntlo MR KEKGONEGILE: Ema pele Assistant Minister! e. Ke a leboga. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kgoba kgetsi. MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary. Ke ne ke re ke go botse Mookamedi wa lephata… MR KEKGONEGILE: Secondly, you talk of monthly visits; when was the last date of the monthly visit in that HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… particular area?

MR MOSWAANE: …(Laughter!)…Gore, a lephata Thirdly, you talk of Khwai, Mababe le Savuti Camps, la gago ga le nke le busa madi ngwaga le ngwaga? A we do not have such in that area. Ga se gore gongwe

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re na le concessions tse di ntseng jalo, tse di nang le ke Palamente, ke tlaabo ke bua kgang e o iseng o tle dikampa mo go tsone. Are you talking of concessions mo Palamenteng wa tla wa e fetisa. Ke dikgang tse re or are you talking of camps? Which camps specifically tlaa tswelelang le tsone re ya go di sekaseka koo. Fa go on that particular date did that particular visit take place kgonagetse, o tlaa tla o e fetisa gone fa mo Palamenteng mo go tsone? ya rona. O reeditse Motlotlegi Dithapelo Keorapetse?

Lastly Mr Speaker, if you are to talk of cost effectiveness, Sorry Mr Speaker, the last visit, ga ke na information fa e le the monthly visits and establishment of a service ya gore ba ne ba ile leng kwa dikgaolong, mme ke supa centre, when we are to go into National Development gore kgwedi le kgwedi ba a tsamaya. Ke tsaya gore eo e Plan (NDP 11) review, fa re leka to transform, re leka siame, ga se potso e e tshwenyang, ke ka bitsa motlotlegi to change from business as usual, would it not be economic wise to have that particular service centre ra tla ra ya go mo supegetsa gore ba ne ba le koo ka di there, rather than have monthly visits going all over the kae. Gone mme ga go na go dira pharologanyo mo go four concessions tse e leng gore it takes a week or even se a se batlang, wena o batla go mo senyetsa kgang. Ke ten days for a doctor to visit all those camps, because a leboga. there are more than 40 in those particular concessions? PLANS TO DECLARE PALAPYE A TOWN Thank you. MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mopalamente. MR O. RAMOGAPI (PALAPYE): asked the Minister Ke a bona gore ba go gwetlhile gore jaanong le wena of Local Government and Rural Development if there o tsene mo supplementaries. Tsone concessions tse ke are any plans to declare Palapye a town following the neng ke bua ka tsone, ke tsone tse di kwadilweng fa; adoption of a Motion by the Central District Council tse ke buileng gore concession ya ntlha ke yone Savuti, some 10 years ago. Moremi le Khwai, tse e leng gore di etelwa ke ba ASSISTANT MINISTER OF LOCAL botsogo kgwedi le kgwedi. Fa o tsena mo kgannyeng GOVERNMENT AND RURAL DEVELOPMENT ya gago ya gore, a rona ga re bone go tlhokafala gore go (MR AUTLWETSE): Mr Speaker, Section 8 of the nne le a specialised, kana o ne o bua o lebeletse badiredi Local Government Act, 2012 CAP 40:01 empowers ba ba leng koo. Ke e arabile ka bokhutshwane ke re, the Minister to declare any place a township, subject re na le keletso. Kana gongwe fa re batla go e bua ka to consultation with the District Council, Kgosi and the Sekgoa, o ne o bua gongwe ka like an occupational community of the area where such place is situated. health clinic, a specialised clinic you are talking about, e e yang go lebelela babereki ba le koo; in terms of x-ray Palapye was approved as an Administrative Authority and medical examinations. through Presidential Directive CAB 21 (B)/2008. As such, for me to declare Palapye a town, consultations Ke tsone tse o di buang. Kana re le ministry re ntse jaana, must ensue with Palapye community and Central District re na le dikgang tse di ntsi tse di fa pele ga rona, jaanong Council so that I can make an informed decision. e o e buang ya gompieno, ke yone e re nang le keletso re le lephata, mathata a matona ke madi. E bile gape ga That notwithstanding, the resolution adopted by re ganetse gore motsamao o re batlang go o tsamaya Central District Council to declare Palapye a town gompieno, re tsaya Puso fa e leng teng re e isa kwa pele, is among many presentations placed before me by re mo lenaneong leo, re eletsa gore re gate re gatoga. District Councils requesting for Sub-Districts and Motshegare wa gompieno re ne re na le associations tsa Administrative Authorities to be declared fully fledged Hotel and Tourism Association of Botswana (HATAB), districts and townships. I will, in light of the envisaged tsa bojanala, re ne re ntse re bua dikgang tse. Jaanong Decentralisation Policy, which will be concluded in the Motlotlegi Mopalamente, ra re re lebile gone koo gore next financial year, that is 2020/2021, make a decision the economic centres tse di tshwanang le tseo, kana on all these requests. I thank you Mr Speaker. re tsaya gore Batswana ba hirilwe koo, botsogo e nne bontlha bongwe jwa tsone gore re bo godise. Mathata a MR MMOLOTSI: Supplementary Mr Speaker. Tona, matona a ke a buileng ke gore, ka gore plan ke e, budget le ntswa o rialo gape, le ntswa mo tafoleng ya gago go e fa pele ga rona; kana re bua re lebeletse budget le plan na le dikopo ka go farologana, a ga o lemoge gore o e re nang le yone. Ga ke ka ke ka bua ka dikgang tsa kare Palapye letsogonyana la gagwe le kwa godimo mo Mid Term Review ka gore Mid Term Review e fetisiwa tebegong ya gore o ka diriwa toropo?

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MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Speaker, ga ke ise ke di kale go fela tse di mo; go ntse jalo kwa go yone, ba bona gore e e ka bong e le fa godimo ga tse dingwe ke batla gore e nne a full-fledged district. Serowe-Palapye efe, fela ka fa kitsong ya me, ke sub-districts, mme we e ne ya re fa e kgaoganngwa, ga bo go nna le Serowe treat them all di ntse jalo. Ke tlaabo ke ikgolega fa ke ka Administration Authority le Palapye Administration re ke setse ke di kadile. I thank you Mr Speaker. Authority. Seo se ne se sa reye gore Palapye has an upper hand, kana e farologana le other sub-districts ka HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... tsela epe fela. Ao ke maikutlo a gagwe a le nosi, e ne ya MR KEORAPETSE: Further supplementary. Ke a nna Motion o o neng wa tla ka 2008 ... (interruption)... leboga Honourable Speaker. Honourable Minister, tota ke kopa gore o reetse motlotlegi. E ne ya nna mogopolo le le lephata kana le ne la nyafala go tsibogela kgang e o o neng wa tla mo Khanseleng ya Legare pele ga ene ya Decentralisation Policy, jaanong ke botse gore, tota a tsena mo Khanseleng, go kopiwa gore Palapye be re ka namediwa ke eng gore e tlaa re mo ngwageng o declared a Township Authority, Khansele ya Legare ya o tlang jaaka fa o bua, e bo e setse e wetse? Lantlha fa dumalana. ke gakologelwa go buiwa ka Decentralisation Policy, Mo nakong ya gompieno, tsa bo di tloga di nna di latela ke ka 2008/2009, jaanong ke nako e telele thata, ga ke jalo; ya Bobirwa e goroga. Jaaka ke ne ke bua, Tutume itse gore ke eng se se ka re rayang se re mme gompieno e ne e goroga mo nakong ya gompieno. Di dintsi tse e totatota ka boammaaruri sengwe se tlaa diragala? leng gore keletso ya tsone ke gore di ka nna either fully- MR AUTLWETSE: Ke a leboga motlotlegi. Karabo e fledged districts kana tsa nna dikhansele tsa ditoropo. khutshwane ke gore, nametsega gore go tlaa nna jalo, ka Jaaka ke bua, ke tshwetso e e tshwanetseng go tsewa ke tlhalosa gore mo nakong ya gompieno ke bua ka next nako e le nngwefela go na le go dira a piecemeal financial year, ke bua ka selo se se mo tafoleng ya me. approach. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Motho o tshwarwa ka mafoko a gagwe, fa go ka se ke Palamente. ga diragala jalo, o tlaa botsa, mo nakong ya gompieno, a MINISTRY OF TERTIARY EDUCATION, dipelo tsa lona di se fuduege. RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY MR RAMOGAPI: Supplementary. Mr Speaker, ke CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT (CBD) LEASE botsa Tona gore, a o a itse e bile o a tlhaloganya sentle AGREEMENT gore fa Palapye a tlaa bidiwa gotwe Administrative MR P. P. P. MOATLHODI (TONOTA): asked the Authority, e le yone fela mo Botswana, go ne go supa Minister of Tertiary Education, Research, Science and gore Palapye o nonofetse gore e nne toropo, mme Technology: motho yo o neng a isa mafoko kana a dira research kana survey, a bo a sokamisa mafoko? Ke yone fela mo (i) to confirm whether his ministry entered into a Botswana e e leng Administrative Authority mme e se lease agreement with a certain landlord at Central headquarters ya district. Administrative Authority di Business District (CBD) to occupy some premises mo headquarters ya districts. Palapye ka go farologana on September 2018; and if so, to state: ga yone, it was elevated gore e tswe kwa sub-council e nne Administrative Authority; tota it qualified gore e ye (ii) what has delayed them to move to the said go nna toropo. Jaanong ke ne ke re a Tona seemo se o a building; se itse, se se setseng se baya Palapye kwa pele ga sub- (iii) whether indeed monthly rentals have continued to councils tse dingwe tse tsotlhe tse a reng di tletse mo be paid and if so, how much; tafoleng ya gagwe, mme ebile ga a ise a di kale? Sekale se setse se itshupile, a ko a fetse sentle ka kgang eo. (iv) if he does not consider this a waste of public Le gore kana consultation rona re setse re e dirile kwa funds; if so, how and when he intends addressing Palapye, le kwa Bogosing ba dumetse, go setse wena this problem. fela go ntsha lefoko mong wa lephata. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF TERTIARY MR AUTLWETSE: Mr Chairman, ke dumela gore EDUCATION, RESEARCH, SCIENCE AND motlotlegi ka o tlile morago ga me kwa Khanseleng ya TECHNOLOGY (MR SHAMUKUNI): Mr Legare, o tlhaetse kitso golo gongwe. Ga se Palapye e Speaker, let me start by indicating that my ministry le nosi e e tshwenyegileng gore e ka nna toropo, tsotlhe was established in October 2016 following the re-

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organisation of Government ministries. The ministry for our immediate occupation. I thank you Mr headquarters is housed on the third floor of the former Speaker. Ministry of Education and Skills Development building, commonly known as Block 6, sharing with the Ministry MR KEORAPETSE: Supplementary. Honourable of Basic Education, Department of Mines and that of Minister, I would like you to confirm whether as the Department of Information Technology (DIT). Due to ministry, le ne le duela rentals tse pedi; kwa le leng inadequate office accommodation for my ministry staff teng le kwa le batlang go ya teng? Ke potso ya ntlha to in the current location, we saw it fit to find alternative confirm that you were paying rentalsgabedi. Sa bobedi, office accommodation. ke batla go itse gore o ne o re go duelwa P665,000.00 or thereabout, quarterly? Jaanong quarters tse di fetileng (i) Mr Speaker, I can confirm that my ministry entered di kae le gore madi a le setseng le a duetse before the into a five-year lease agreement for office rental in building is occupied ke bokae? the Central Business District which commenced on the 1st September, 2018. MR SHAMUKUNI: Mr Speaker, gongwe ke supe gore the monthly rentals ke P665, 395.60 per month and to (ii) Mr Speaker, reasons for the delay to move to the date, a total of P10,646,361 has been paid effective 1st said building are: September, 2018. Just to note Mr Speaker, the quarterly rental is around P1.9 million and this has been paid • The building was acquired as a shell and required before occupation. I thank you Mr Speaker. space customisation to partition it to the ministry requirements. For that reason, my ministry could not HONOURABLE MEMBER: Further supplementary. occupy the building straight away. MR SPEAKER: The last supplementary Honourable • The design for customisation was completed and Member. approved by the Gaborone City Council on 22nd February, 2019. MR KEKGONEGILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. The Monday’s catch words… • Subsequent to the approval, there was a dispute MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, Order! Order! between the designer and the contractor with regards Honourable Member. Honourable Minister, there was to their payment terms. a question whether you were paying two rentals, your answer to that. • The construction commenced on the 2nd May, 2019 after the dispute between the designer and contractor MR SHAMUKUNI: Mr Speaker, I can only confirm was resolved. Completion of construction was that we are paying rental mo building e re tshwanetseng scheduled for 28th June, 2019 following which my to move to. I am not sure about the current one where ministry would immediately occupy the building. we are…

• During construction Mr Speaker, another dispute MR SPEAKER: E le nnang mo go yone ga o itse gore ke ya ga mang? arose between the contractor and my ministry with regards to customisation specifications. This is the MR SHAMUKUNI: E re nnang mo go yone… re kopile main factor that has led to the delays. boroko kwa Basic Education, I will have to confirm if we are really paying rental. (iii) Mr Speaker, the first quarterly rental was expected on the 1st of September, 2018 and my ministry MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, please! honoured its obligation by paying the rental on that date. Monthly rentals of P665,395.60 continue to MR KEKGONEGILE: Thank you Mr Speaker. The be paid on a quarterly basis in terms of the lease catch words tsa Mosupologo ke ‘transformation’ and agreement signed. ‘not business as usual’. Honourable Assistant Minister, are you saying that you took 17 months and you will (iv) Mr Speaker, my ministry realises the need to take 20 months to transform a shell into a workable account for public funds and we have since space? Are you saying that situations that we see in prevailed on the contractor to move with speed China whereby they can build a thousand bed hospital to complete the works and deliver the building in six days, are a pipe dream in Botswana?

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Second question Mr Speaker, the Honourable Minister mo go yone, bontsi jwa nako o fitlhela e le gore it is talks of two disputes of a shell in eight months. not customised tota to the requirements tsa lona as a Honourable Assistant Minister, on Monday we were ministry. So once you have acquired that building, told of a P5 billion deficit, do you not see your ministry contractually, you have an obligation to start paying as a major contributor to this P5 billion deficit in rental, and ke sone seemo se re leng mo go sone. We terms of inefficiency and wastage? We hear of another have acquired the building, we started paying rental and wastage in the Ministry of Land Management, Water then when the process of customising it… and initially, and Sanitation Services fela jalo ka kgang ya Maun ya the general assumption was that re ka bo re ne re feditse bo Jiangsu le bo eng? Thank you Mr Speaker. ka customisation gongwe in six months, but it delayed Mr Speaker because of the challenges that I alluded MR SHAMUKUNI: The Honourable Speaker, with to concerning our local contractors. I mean we find regard to the first question ya the Honourable Member, ourselves in such situations. Thank you Mr Speaker. obviously tota nna ga ke tswe kwa China, ga ke itse gore what do they dream ka se a neng a se bua. I can only HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary. talk about what is obtaining in Botswana and surely, Mr Speaker, gone the situation we find ourselves in, MR SPEAKER: The last one. we do regret it. Re ne re sa tshwanela gore re ka bo MR MOATLHODI: Supplementary. Ke a leboga re le mo seemong sa gompieno but we know what we Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. are dealing with. We contract Batswana gore ba dire Dumelang bazekulu. Whose bulding is this Honourable most of these works and they do delay and go nna le Minister? contractual disputes. This is common across most contracts tsa ga Goromente. We find ourselves in that MR SPEAKER: Honourable Minister, a o a itse? situation but Honourable Speaker, just a few weeks ago as I indicated, we prevailed on the contractor to speed MR SHAMUKUNI: Mr Speaker, ke tlaa tshwanela ke up the works and have this building delivered to us in gore ke ye go botsa, ga ke itse gore ke building ya ga three months. We have an agreement on that and we are mang. confident that in three months, we will be in a position to occupy the building. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)...

With regard to the issue ya deficit, as I have indicated, MR SPEAKER: There is somebody saying he is going it is an unfortunate situation we find ourselves in. We to take the question for Honourable Molebatsi, number just have to deal with it. Le rona it is a legacy issue and 6. we find it, but I just want to assure this Parliament, Mr Speaker, that we are moving with speed just to have this HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr issue rectified. I thank you. Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Sometimes your problem is you have MR SPEAKER: Is there anything out of order? never been a prosecutor, so you do not know how to ask questions. So Ministers are lucky. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Yes sir.

MR MOSWAANE: Supplementary. Ke ne ke re ke MR SPEAKER: I have asked a question. botse Tona gore go tsile jang gore le tsene mo lease HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ooh! Sorry. I wanted to agreement e le simololang go duela, le ise le occupy ask the Minister something because he did not answer building? Ga ke itse gore go tsamaile jang ka gore le properly sir. na le lawyers tse di tshwanetseng gore di ka bo di le gakolola gore kana building fa e se ready for occupation DEVELOPMENT OF THE DIAMOND a o simolola go e duela kana jang? A ko o tlhalose gore INDUSTRY INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY le tsile jang gore le tsene mo seemong sa go simolola go duela when the building is not ready for occupation? MR M. S. MOLEBATSI (MMADINARE): asked the Thank you. Minister of Investment, Trade and Industry to state:

MR SHAMUKUNI: Mr Speaker, kana once you (i) how much of the Diamond Industry Intellectual identify a building e le eletsang gore le tle le tsene Property is developed in Botswana; and

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(ii) if it is implemented in Botswana; if not, why. of Prisons Services as per recommendations by ILO. ASSISTANT MINISTER OF INVESTMENT, TRADE AND INDUSTRY (MR GARE): Good MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR afternoon Mr Speaker. PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT (MR BALOPI): Thank you Mr Speaker. (i) Mr Speaker, the Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry through the Companies and Intellectual It is a fact that: Property Authority (CIPA) is mandated to protect intellectual property in Botswana. This protection (i) Mr Speaker, in 2017 the International is achieved through the Industrial Property Act Labour Organisation’s (ILO’s) Committee (CAP 68:03) and the Copyright and Neighboring on the Application of Standards (CAS) made Rights Act (CAP 68:02). There are 19 patents recommendations on Botswana’s compliance with filed by various companies in the Mining Industry ILO Convention No. 87, regarding Freedom of to date. Out of the 19 patents, three have been Association and the Right to organise, but did not granted protection, eight are still being examined make any recommendation on Convention No.98 to determine if they can be protected. Furthermore, on the Protection of the Right to Organise and seven patents have expired and are now in public Collective Bargaining. domain and one patent was withdrawn by the (b) The 2017 Committee on the Application of owner. Standards did not recommend holistic reviews In addition to the patents, we have 58 trademarks and of Labour Laws to align them with International one industrial design registered by mining companies Standards. The issues which the committee in Botswana. considered involved compliance with Convention 87: hence recommendations thereto, which the (ii) My ministry is unable to know if all the intellectual ministry is, presently addressing. property is implemented in Botswana. Intellectual property rights are considered as private property, (c) In respect to Convention 87, the committee therefore, it is the owners who can verify if such recommended that the Government should: rights are being implemented in Botswana. I thank • Take appropriate measures that ensure that the you Mr Speaker. labour and employment legislation grants members ALIGNMENT OF BOTSWANA LABOUR LAWS of the prison service the rights guaranteed by the TO INTERNATIONAL LABOUR LAWS convention; • Ensure that the Trade Disputes Act is in full MR Y. BOKO (MAHALAPYE EAST): asked the conformity with Convention No. 87, and engage in Minister of Employment, Labour Productivity and social dialogue, with further technical assistance of Skills Development if the Committee of Application of the ILO; Standards of International Labour Organisation (ILO) in 2017 made findings that the Government of Botswana • Amend the Trade Unions and Employers violated Convention 87 (Freedom of Association) and Organisations Act, in consultation with employer 98 (Protection of Right to Organise and Collective and worker organisations, to bring these laws into Bargaining); and the Committee put it to Government conformity with the convention. to engage with social partners for holistic review of Additionally, the committee called upon the Government Labour Laws to align them to International Labour to develop a time-bound action plan together with Standards and to state: the social partners; in order to implement these (i) when Government intends to complete this process recommendations. and comply with International Labour standards at Mr Speaker, as already indicated, the work to address a time when the country’s Labour Laws are anti- the recommendations regarding Convention 87 is workers and anti-Trade Unions; and underway and involves ongoing consultations with the (ii) if Government intends to allow for unionisation relevant stakeholders. A tripartite committee comprising

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representatives of Government, employers and workers MR SPEAKER: I am afraid we have run out of time. was established to spearhead this process. During these consultations, it was resolved that the review of the laws HONOURABLE MEMBER: Point of order Mr should not be restricted to the Trade Disputes Act and Speaker. Trade Unions and Employers Organisations Act, but MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order. We have run should also cover the Employment Act and the Public out of time. That is simple English. We have overshot Service Act. This is being done; in order to close all the runway. the gaps in the Labour Laws, while incorporating the judgments of the courts in the country and aligning APPROPRIATION (2020/2021) BILL, the provisions of the laws with the provisions of ILO 2020 (NO.2 OF 2020) Conventions which Botswana has ratified. In doing this work, the stakeholder committee doing the work Second Reading is assisted by an ILO expert, as recommended by the (Resumed Debate) Committee on the Application of Standards. LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): (i) A time-bound work plan was prepared and agreed Point of procedure Mr Speaker. I thank you Mr Speaker. with representatives of employers and workers on I just wanted, for the sake of knowing, what will happen 28 June 2018. This action plan was to end in July going forward, if the same thing that happened yesterday, 2019 with presentation of the Bill to Parliament. happens again. What will be your take on it? Probably, Members may not be aware that when such things Unfortunately, this timeline has not been met happen, you truncate the debate. If you can clarify on because the ILO expert who was facilitating the the position, why it was not truncated yesterday. Going process was withdrawn by ILO due to ill health. forward if that happens or repeats, you will have to take In April 2019, the ILO appointed a new expert the appropriate action in accordance with the conduct of to facilitate the process. Since then, substantial this House. I thank you. progress has been made to review Labour Laws. The tripartite stakeholder-committee is scheduled MR SPEAKER: Thank you Honourable Vice President to meet with the ILO expert on the 7th February (VP). I took it there was no need for me to say that. The 2020, (that is tomorrow). Standing Orders are quite clear. If no Members want to debate, I call upon the Minister to reply to those who The meeting is expected to close all the gaps in the have debated, and the matter is closed. We are together. proposals for the review of the laws. The consequential proposals will then provide a basis for instructions to MR HIKUAMA (NGAMI): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa the Attorney General to draft the required Bill. Once the Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Bill has been drafted, it will be presented to Cabinet for Palamente, ka re le nna ke tseye sebaka se, ke tshwaele consideration prior to its presentation to this Honourable mo pegong e re e beilweng pele ke Tona wa Madi le House. It is our desire that the process to review Labour Ditlhabololo Honourable Dr Matsheka. Pele ga ke Laws be concluded by July 2020. tsenelela mo puong ya me kana ke e buisa, ke batla go ntsha dintlha dingwe go lemotsha Honourable Members (ii) The matter of unionisation of prisons officers is ba re leng fa, rotlhe ba party e e busang le rona, gore one of the issues that are currently being discussed kana re filwe boikarabelo jo botona jwa go lebelela in the Tripartite Labour Laws Review Stakeholder- ditsamaiso le merero ya lefatshe le, ke Batswana. Mo e Committee, and they have been alluded to. Mr leng gore fa re tsaya boikarabelo jo, re tshwanetse ra itse Speaker, I think it would not be justified or prudent gore sepe se re se buang ke se ba eletsang go se utlwa, e for Government to pronounce itself on the matter bile ba se bona se diragala mo lefatsheng la rona. while the consultative structure, which is dealing Ntswa go ntse jalo Honourable Members, there are with the issue, is still deliberating. Accordingly, two types of authorities; mo gotweng legal authority I would not like to pre-empt these discussions. I and moral authority. Ke dumela thata gore, fa e le thank you Mr Speaker. gore re tsamaisa mo pusong ya batho ka batho, e HONOURABLE MEMBER: Supplementary Mr e leng democracy, re tshwanetse ra netefatsa gore Speaker moral authority e teng fa re tsaya ditshwetso. Ke bua

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se ka gore, nako tse dingwe ke a tle ke utlwe bo Rre Umbrella for Democratic Change (UDC), go leka go le Molebatsi ba bua ka fa ba nang le tshwanelo ya go ka ntsha mo dilong tse le neng le ntse le sa bone gore di ka tsaya ditshwetso… e seng Molebatsi, sorry Honourable diragala. Re tshwanetse ra le lebogela seo. Molebatsi, Honourable Modukanele! Ba na le go ikgatlha ka gore nnyaa, re na le tshwanelo ka fa molaong Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke itebagantse ya go busa ka fa re batlang ka teng. Ba lebala gore ba le wena Tona wa Madi le Ditogamaano kana le na le moral authority. Fa o simolola emphasizing molao Ditlhabololo Dr Matsheka, ga ke dumele gore ke nna yo thata, o gataka moral authority, a bo o itse gore ga o sa ke ka go rutang Economics ka gore eo ke field ya gago, tlhole o le in the pursuit of social justice and democracy. o tlhaloganya sengwe le sengwe ka yone. Pele ga ke ka Ke ne ke re ke tshwaele jalo. bua ke tswelela ka dikgang tse dingwe, ke tlaa batla go supa gore, go lebega e kete Domkraga e comfortable Mr Speaker, ke simolole ka go leboga Tona, gore bo a re kana e a kgotsofala fela fa go buiwa ka economic beile pele pego ya gagwe ya kabakanyo ya madi a ngwaga growth. Ke gore fa go buiwa ka middle, high income, wa 2020. Ke mo leboge thata, ke tlaa simolola go leboga what status, gone go gola ga itsholelo, you are satisfied ene, a bo ke leboga le yone phathi ya Domkraga. Ke ka fa ke bonang ka teng. Rona re le UDC, le nna ke le leboga Tona Matsheka gore, mo kutlwisisong ya gagwe mo teng, re dumela gore we have to do more than that. ya gore go tshwanetse ga fetolwa ka fa re dirang dilo ka What we need in the country is economic development; teng, yone kutlwisiso eo re tshwanetse ra e leboga. Fa itsholelo e e leng gore Motswana fa a le kwa lelwapeng, o lemoga gore dilo di ntse di sa tsamaisiwe sentle, dilo le ene o a e akola. di sa dirwe sentle, ke sone se se dirileng gore lefatshe la rona le eme fa re leng teng, le se ka la tswelela pele Ga se dipalo fela tse di diragalang mo Pusong gore kana le palelwe ke go sutelela kwa le neng le ka sutelela nnyaa, madi kana dithoto di godile go le kana, go sa teng, fa go ka bo go di dirilwe ka tsela e sele. Selo seo sutise botshelo jwa gagwe. Ke gore fa e le gore itsholelo se tshwanetse sa lebogwa. Kutlwisiso, le fa e le gore ga e a gola, re a ipoka, re bokwa le ke mafatshe, mme ana go dira sepe, yone kutlwisiso eo fela e tshwanetse Motswana a sala a tshelela mo lehumeng, botshelo ya lebogwa. Ke tshwanetse ka leboga gape, phathi ya jwa gagwe bo sa tokafale, ga se itsholelo e e ka re Domkraga. Ke simolola go e leboga ka nako ya Puso ya itumedisang. ga Rre Khama, Sir Seretse Khama Ian Khama. Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, dilo tse re HONOURABLE MEMBERS: Ga se sir. tshwanetse ra di leba gore a mme pego e re e filweng ke Tona e sutisa botshelo jwa Motswana. Kana fa o ne MR HIKUAMA: Nnyaa, o bidiwa jalo. Lieutenant o bua ka Monday ka selo se, mongwe le mongwe o ne a General Seretse Khama Ian Khama, ke simolole go mo reeditse kwa a neng a reeditse teng. O ne a lebelela gore leboga gore mo Pusong ya gagwe, ke gore Domkraga ene tota e mo tshwaretse eng; botshelo jwa gagwe bo ya e ne ya nna lebaka e sa dumele gore lehuma ke selo go tokafala ka tsela e e ntseng jang? Ke tsone dipotso tse se se dirilweng ke motho e bile se se ka nyeletswang. ba neng ba di ipotsa. Ke sone se re tshwanetseng ra se Mo Pusong ya ga Khama, ga nna le kutlwisiso ya bona, gore a mme yone e ama matshelo a Motswana yo gore lehuma le ka nyeletswa. Le phathi ya Domkraga o kwa lelwapeng, monana yo o sa berekeng; a monana ya simolola go opela pina ya gore nnyaa, lehuma le yo o sa berekeng o na le tsholofelo in this budget? A ka nyeletswa. Bogologolo ba ne ba ntse ba bona gore Molemi-morui wa kwa Bodibeng o na le tsholofelo mo nnyaa, Modimo o re dirile gore go nne bahumanegi, ba kabakanyong madi a ngwaga o? Ke tsone dilo tse re bangwe ba nne bahumi batle ba dirise ba bangwe sentle. tshwanetseng go di lebelela in your Monday speech. Ke yone position e e leng gore re tshwanetse ra e leboga, gore fa le fetogile, re leboge selo se. Fa re lebelela ka fa o neng o aba madi a lefatshe la Botswana ka teng, go na le dintlha tse o di ntshitseng Re leboge gape gore Puso ya Domkraga, at least mo gore ke dintlhakgolo kana priorities. Ya ntlha e le pegong e ya ga Tona, one a kgona go lemoga gore provision of appropriate infrastructure; go tokafatsa go tshwanetse gore Batswana…go diriwe molao wa dikago, mafaratlhatlha a ditsela le tse dingwe tse di Citizen Economic Empowerment Law. E ba neng ba tlhokafalang to facilitate itsholelo gore e tsamae sentle, e gana lebaka le le leele. Go itharabologelwa mo, go le ditlamelo. Fa o tsaya yone e, ke boammaaruri; ga go tshwanetse le gone ga lebogwa. Ke dilo tse di botlhokwa na itsholelo e e ka golang, ga go na ope yo o ka itirelang gore le anywe, le bo le dirisa le one manifesto wa sepe fa ditlamelo le mafaratlhatlha a dilo tse a le kwa

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tlase. Go maswabi ka gore rona ba Kgaolo ya Ngami sa go tlhabolola dilo tse, tota re tlaa palelwa ke go e le North West ka kakaretso, gongwe re madimabe mo amogela le go go galaletsa sentle. Le fa ke bona gongwe Pusong ya ga Domkrag. Fa o ka tsaya infrastructure o e o na le meono e e siameng, mme budget ya gago e ka lebelela ka fa e dirwang ka teng, o tsaya ditsela to start tswa e fapaane le se o se akantseng. Infrastructure, e with, o ka tsaya gore o kwa mafatsheng a gotweng a a re ntseng re bua ka yone e le priority mo go lona gore lwa. Ga o ka ke wa dumela gore ke ene Botswana yo e tsamaise dilo tse; mafelo a mantsi a kgaolo ya rona go buiwang ka ene. O tlaabo o re gongwe ke lefatshe ga a na le fa e le motlakase, a tlhoka motlakase. Seemo le sele le o iseng o le bone gope, le go nang le dintwa se e le gore se nna thata mo go maswe. In this era Dr ka go lone. Ditsela di kgautlhane; le fa o re o tsamaya Matsheka, o bo o fitlhela dikokelo le dikokelwana di mo kgaolong, le nna fela ke setse ke lwala mokwatla ke sena motlakase, mme tse dingwe e le tse di belegisang. bumpers fela tse e leng gore fa o re o tlhola dikgaolo, Seemo seo, batho ba belegisa with their phones, ka bo koloi e nnela go tlola go fitlhelela o bo o lwala. Ke sone “lesedi la me.” seemo se se teng. Ke dumela gore diemo tse ke tsone tse o neng o bua ka tsone gore ga re a tshwanela go nna HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... le tsone mo lefatsheng la rona gore re tle re tlhabologe. MR HIKUAMA: Ee, a bonesa ka yone. Kana wena ga Fa ke lebelela ditsela tse tsa rona le ka fa o neng o bega o itse diemo tse ka gore o nna fa; o wa Molapowabojang, pego ya gago ka teng, ga ke bone fa re na le seabe mo gape o tshameketse ruri thata. go tsone. Ga ke itse gore rona, a batho ba kgaolo e, ba itumelele Budget Speech e kana ba e beye fela foo ba HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… re gongwe ke ya batho bangwe ba ba latswitsweng ke MR HIKUAMA: Motho a bonesa ka “lesedi la me” tlhware, ke ya bahumi, ke ya bo Rre Mmusi? mo seemong se se ntseng jalo. Ke gore budget e fa e HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… le gore e tlaabo e sa re ame, jaaka ke bona e sa re ame jaana, ke palelwa ke go dumalana le pego e Motsamaisa MR HIKUAMA: Ka gore go lebega ka kwano go Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. balololwa ditsela le dilo tse di yang go dirwa, mme rona go sena sepe se se balololwang, mme e le rona ba ditsela HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... tse di kgautlhaneng go gaisa ditsela tsotlhe tsa lefatshe MR HIKUAMA: …(Laughter!)… Ke tlogele ba ba la Botswana. dumalanang? Dilo tse Tona, ke palelwa ke go dumalana le go amogela HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... pego e gore ke e e re siametseng. Fa go ka bo e le gore go ka kgonagala, mme go tshwanetse gore go kgonagale MR HIKUAMA: Nnyaa, re a e batla; re batla gore le ka gore fa re le fa re tshwanetse go kgona le go re e rona re akole sengwe mo go yone this budget. busetse morago e ye go tsenya ditlhabololo tsa rona mo teng, pele ga e ka amogelwa. Budget e re tshwanetse HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... go e gana His Honour the Vice President, ka gore tota MR HIKUAMA: Ke rile wena o tliseditswe fa for ga e a re tshwarela sepe. Fa o lebelela metsi, fa re bua special skills; ga o a tshwanela go fetoga bo Dr Dikoloti. ka infrastructure, dikgaolo tsa Ngami, bogolo jang go simolola kwa bo Etsha go tla go ema mo , ga go HONOURABLE MEMBERS …(Laughter!)… na le fa e le metsi. Gompieno batho e bile ba simolotse go reka metsi, a a epiwang mo kakwete. Ga ke itse gore MR HIKUAMA: O tliseditswe fa for special skills; you a kakwete o a e itse Dr Matsheka? Go epiwa dikakwete, should provide special advice. Honourable Tsogwane o a itse. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… MR HIKUAMA: Nnyaa, mme ke a go utlwa MR HIKUAMA: Ke one metsi a a rekisetswang batho; Honourable Kereng, kana o tsala ya me, gongwe wa metsi a a mahibidu a e leng gore le mo botsogong jwa bo o batla go bua le nna. Rre Matsheka, seemo sa rona bone, ga se metsi a a siameng. Dilo tse re tshwanetse go jaaka ke sa tswa go bua, ke santse ke batla go tsaya bona gore they are addressed in this budget. Fa e le gore nako on infrastructure ka gore re e tlhoka thata. Ke budget e ga e solofetse sepe kana ga e a tshwara sepe yone kgaolo fela ya Ngami e o tlaa fitlhelang motho

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a kgweetsa more than 200 kilometres a latela bongaka re sweletse. E kare re sa kgona go akola itsholelo e e mo ditseleng tse di sa siamang. Kwa a latelang social neng e le resource-based, re na le meamuso; re na le amenities and services, more than 200 kilometres, mme diphologolo, dikgomo le metsi, jaanong ya knowledge- o sa akanya gore go na le ditsela tse di tshwanetseng go based re ka e akola ka tsela e e ntseng jang ka gore thuto dirwa di goroge kwa bo Xangwa, kwa bathong ba ba e tshwanetse go nna konokono kana modi wa yone leng kgakala. knowledge-based economy. Kwa go rona ga e yo. O a tle o bone le wena fa maduo a dikole a tswa, North West ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… yone e nnang kwa godimo in failing. Fa ke ka go neela MR HIKUAMA: Ke mo Botswana, yes. Ke mo a brief statistics tsa dikole tsa Ngami fela tsa community Botswana, e bile le go itse ga o itse, o le Minister. junior secondary schools, se se pasitseng go di gaisa Ke dikgaolo that are neglected thata. Dilo tse Tona, tsotlhe ke 23.8 per cent, sa bofelo ke 14.2 per cent. Sone ke utlwile o bua golo gongwe gore go na le madi a seemo se, o bo o bua ka knowledge-based economy, go infrastructure, le tshwanetse gore le re akanyetse mo go raya gore re saletse ruri. Fa o akanya, batho bone ba mo one a. Ke dumela gore mo mid-term review, dilo tse re dingwageng tse di 20 kana tse 10 tse di tlang e tlaabo e tshwanetse gore re tle re di tsenye mo teng. le batho ba ba mo seemong sefe fela? Go tlhomola pelo. Mme dilo tse re ka di fetola, jaaka o ne o bua fa e le gore Tona, go na le unemployment e e kwa godimo mo o ne o e bua tota o tlhoafetse. Kwa Selebi Phikwe ke go Botswana. O buile gape mo puong ya gago gore the first boditse gore a mme dilo tse fa o di bua jaana a o bua o na quarter ya the three months; July up to September last le conviction kana o di bua for the purpose of workshop? year (2019) e ne e gomagometsa go nna 20.7, letlhoko la You assured me gore, nnyaa mme wena tota o batla gore ditiro mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Fa o bona ya lefatshe dilo di fetoge. Tota nna ke a dumela gore di ka fetoga. e tsamaya fa, e le 20.7, go raya gore kwa kgaolong Mme e kete ba bangwe ba saletse kwa morago golo fa, ya Ngami, if you can isolate it, e a bo e tsamaya kwa ga ba lore jaana wena. Le fa ba araba dipotso o a bona go bo 40 something, ka gore koo ga go na ka fa e ka gore batho ba bone ga ba lore go tsamaya, it is business nnang 20, lefatshe e le 20, ka gore normally ke yone that as usual. contributes high levels of unemployment mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Jaanong go raya gore re tlaabo re sweletse. Se se supang gore tota dikole tsa rona di ya go felela di Mme re tshwanetse ra tla ka maano kana megopolo e e ntse di le gone fa di sa ye gope, ke gore, Development ka lekang go lwantsha unemployment e e mo lefatsheng Budget, e e tshwanetseng gore gongwe o ka nna le la rona. ditsholofelo tsa gore go tlaa dirwa sengwe se se ka fetolang seemo, e kwa tlase fela thata, ya education. MR MAJAGA: On a point of elucidation. Motsamaisa Kana go buiwa ka Recurrent, gore e kwa godimo go supa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke a leboga. Honourable o commitment of the Government, ga go supe commitment e tshwere sentle, ke re ka o tsere nako tota e ntsi o bua ka infrastructure e e kwa kgaolong, e ke dumalanang le Dr Matsheka. Recurrent, gape ke wena o itseng go wena, mme ka Rre Matsheka o teng mo Ntlong letsatsi nkgaisa, kana go buiwa fela ka go duela barutabana le leno le ene o a ikutlwela, o ne o re a thuse jang, gore tota officers ba ba leng teng, ga go buiwe gore go ya go seemo sele se ke se itseng, se se tshwanang le sa me, dirwa sepe se se sha se se ka fetolang seemo sa dikole. gongwe se nne botoka? Ga go na classrooms tse di yang go agiwa, ga go na incentives tse di ka neelwang barutabana. Ga go na any MR HIKUAMA: Ke a leboga Honourable Member. development that can improve the situation ya dikole tsa Rre Matsheka se a tshwanetseng go se dira ke go re rona, e re e tlhokang go gaisa sengwe le sengwe. Dikole neela madi a go ya go tlhabolola infrastructure kwa tsa rona are dilapidated mo e leng gore le batho fa ba kgaolong ya rona. Ke sone se a tshwanetseng gore a se ya tirong, ba tsamaya ba ngadile, ba sa itumela. Tona wa dire fela, ga go na se sengwe gape. E bile ga a tshwanela madi, seemo se se supa gore tota re mo seemong se se go akanya gabedi. O tshwanetse gore a akanye fela gore, tlhokang mo gotweng affirmative action. Ga re ka ke ra gompieno ke ya go neela dikgaolo tse madi a go dira kgonwa ke seemo se sa gago, se se tlaa dirang business dilo tse, ka gore ke tsone tse re di tlhokang. as usual. Ga go na sepe se se ka fetogang.

Rre Matsheka, kana le bua ka moving from resource- Nna re bona gore madi a gotweng a ya kwa Botswana based economy to knowledge-based economy. Rona ba Defence Force (BDF) a bo a ya go reka difofane re se na Ngami le North West ka kakaretso go raya gore re tlaabo dikole, bogolo ga nkabo di ya kwa …

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HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs) … HONOURABLE MEMBER: … (Inaudible) …

MR HIKUAMA: …(Laughter!)… Honourable MR HIKUAMA: …(Laughter!)… Re na le polase kwa Mmusi, ga ke reye gore lephata le le se ka la fiwa madi. Somelo, e batho ba teng ba ka thusiwang go tswa mo lehumeng ka yone thulaganyo ya Ipelegeng, gongwe ya HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… ba thusa to develop this farm.

MR HIKUAMA: Ga ke reye jalo. Bogolo fa le ka dira HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… gore one a difofane a, ka gore tota difofane tse ga re di tlhoke… MR HIKUAMA: Ke raya polase ya batho rra, e seng ya me. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… MR HIKUAMA: Ga re di tlhoke, di tlaabo di dira eng bana ba feila? Otherwise we are not doing what we are MR HIKUAMA: …(Laughter!)… Rre Matsheka, preaching. go na le madi a o a beileng gatwe a kwa Thematic Working Groups (TWGs)… Ke bo ke tsaya another HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… programme foo, o bua gore is to develop the vulnerable MR HIKUAMA: Sesole ga se tsamaisiwe ka difofane and marginalized groups, e e filweng madi a mantsi. … Le yone re ka e dirisa go leka go tlhabolola matshelo a batho ba; the TWG. Thematic Working Groups gatwe HONOURABLE MEMBER: Difofane tsa ntwa. ke priorities tsa lona tse le di dirileng…

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Inaudible)…

MR HIKUAMA: Difofane tsa ntwa o di isa kae, o lwa MR HIKUAMA: Le speech o ne o sa se reetsa? le mang? Bogolo madi a, a re a tseye and invest even mo pre-education. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)…

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR HIKUAMA: Rra! Ke dilo tse le di dirileng gore le kgone go tlhabolola batho ka tsone. Ga o itse, o rutwa ke MR HIKUAMA: O lwa le mang? O lwelang? O nna? Ga o Minister? rumolelang batho? Selo se se tona sa rona ke lehuma mme ga le lwantshiwe ka planes. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)…

HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… MR HIKUAMA: …(Laughter!)… I think we can take from this budget ya P2.5, P3 billion and ensure gore re MR HIKUAMA: Mma ke tswelele Dr Matsheka, ke thusa batho gore ba ipelege mo go tlhwaafetseng. re poverty eradication ke selo se nna ke dumalanang le sone, gore re tshwanetse ra se lwantsha, re tle ka Se sengwe sa bofelo Tona pele fa ke boela fa fatshe, programmes. You have cited Ipelegeng as one of those re na le Sehithwa and go teng mo report ya ga Mma programmes tse re ka di dirisang go lwantsha lehuma. Venson-Moitoi gore e nne a sub-district. Ke dumela Ke dumela gore with a bit of re-orientation of it, e gore fa re ka dira gore this Sehithwa e nne a sub-district, tsena mo productive activities, re ka kgona go lwantsha batho ba ba tswang kgakala ba ka tsaya ditlamelo tsa lehuma ka yone. Kana e tshwanetse gore e dire tiro e go bone gaufi. Go raya gore o tshwanetse wa re thusa kana buiwang ka yone, gore ke Ipelegeng, batho ba ipelege ra tsaya mo mading a gore this sub-district e agiwe, gore ka yone. We should not create batho ba ba tshelang e tle e kgone go isa ditlamelo gaufi kwa bathong. Ga ke ka go phaka ngwaga le ngwaga, year in, year out. Re batle go dumalana le kgang e e buiwang ya gompieno ya tshwanetse gore fa madi a fela a Ipelegeng, batho ba service centre, we need a full sub-district kwa Sehithwa. bo ba kgona go ipelega, go dirilwe mananeo a a ba Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, mma ke felele tshegetsang le fa madi a fedile. Dilo tse di ka diragala. gone fa. Ke a leboga.

Programmes di dintsi tse di ka dirwang ka Ipelegeng HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… gore batho ba itshegetse. Re na le dipolase kwa Somelo… MR KAPINGA (OKAVANGO): Thank you Mr

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Speaker for the opportunity to speak on behalf of the system that if you tell them that this is no longer the people of Okavango. way to go, they will not be with you, they will pretend to be with you but they will not be with you. Beware of HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… vested political interests which are benefiting from the MR KAPINGA: Yes, if you could listen. Mr Speaker, current situation. I have lived in a number of countries I listened to the Minister of Finance and Economic and in one of them, they are in a state of economic Development with utmost attention because I had a collapse. That state of economic collapse is producing lot of hope in him as an individual. From what I have superrich people who pretend that they want to create heard him saying, from the line of thinking that I have solutions for the situation that is there but in fact, they seen in him, I had a certain hope that this time around would want things to stay as they are because they are something new and dramatic would come out of our getting rich; superrich out of the situation. So, beware Budget Speech, but when he finished, there is a song who you look at as your partner in trying to implement that came into my mind by Billy Ocean that says, “what this transformation, which I believe sincerely that you is the colour of love?” as an individual, you really want to see it happening, but beware who is with you. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… I now proceed to issues of urgency. Mr Speaker, in this MR KAPINGA: I listen to quality music. public service which is very demoralised especially in the lower echelon of the public service, there are a HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… … lot of arrears owing to public servants; overtime and (Applause!)… subsistence allowance in hard conditions. People have MR KAPINGA: This also raised in my mind, what is been owed for a number of years Minister. They are the colour of the transformation that the Honourable knocking on the doors of their supervisors day in and Minister is talking about because when he finished his day out, in my office as the Member of Parliament delivery, I did not feel convinced that we had embarked asking me to intervene and probably get somebody to on a process of transformation. The feeling that I had pay them for what is due to them, but Government is was what the French call, “déjà vu.” We have been there; not paying. heard, promised and seen this before. My debate today Even if you make an enquiry, “when will these people to the Minister will be that; I am looking forward to you be paid,” you are sent around in circles. I had hoped, and proving us wrong that this is something, your Budget is I had told them that, let us look forward to the budget; something that we have seen and heard before. It cannot whether it would make provision for these arrears that really drive us to any significant transformation. We are you are entitled to, to be paid, but our hopes have been in a state of crisis and we need to acknowledge that we dashed because I do not see any possibility of them are in that state. If we do sincerely acknowledge that we being paid. So, I ask you to look into this gore ba ba are in a state of crisis, we need to take bold decisions. kolotiwang ke Goromente, how can you make sure that We should not be talking about carrying out reviews and they are paid what is due to them. setting up Cabinet Committees as if the situation that we Funding and Transformation of the Security Sector are faced with arose yesterday. The problems that we are facing now have accumulated over many years re ntse This Government needs to make a bold decision as to re bona fela gore golo fa mathata a a tlhatlagana, mo how you want to manage the security sector, it cannot ka Sekgoa gotweng, “a concatenation;” go tlhatlagana, be business as usual. If you continue to say the bulk of go bo go tlhatlagana go ntse go sa tsewe ditshwetso tse the budget goes to Botswana Defence Force (BDF), that di tshwanetseng. thing has been said for more than 20 years. It has always been the same song, same song, “the bulk of the budget I want to say to the Minister; beware like a man who goes to the Botswana Defence Force,” why should it spoke in Julius Caesar that, “beware the ides of March.” continue to be like this when the threat analysis clearly Beware of the old system Honourable Minister. Beware shows where the risks facing this country are coming of the people that you are going to call upon to be your from? partners in this transformation journey, in your own party and in the public service. Beware because some We are now dealing with the issue of poaching of of them are so committed, they are so routed in the old rhinos, and instead of taking money and giving it to

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the Department of Wildlife and National Parks, you of offences under this Act or the arrest of any person continue to pump money into the BDF and give a false committing or suspected of committing an offence narrative that it is the responsibility of the BDF to fight under this Act”… and now this is the key part,…“and poaching; that is not the core business of the BDF, it where the Director so directs, such firearm may be of is the core business of the Department of Wildlife and a type not otherwise permitted under the Arms and National Parks. The BDF is a military; ke sesole, and it is Ammunition Act…” not the duty of the military to look after wildlife. There are appropriate institutions which if properly funded HONOURABLE MEMBER: Ga ba itse melao ya and resourced, can carry out that function without the bone. assistance of the military. Why do you continue to MR KAPINGA: The Director may decide to procure a divert resources from the people who are supposed to firearm that is otherwise not permitted under the Arms get them, to the military, it is wrong! If indeed you are and Ammunition Act, and that kind of firearm is what embarking on a journey of transformation, you should are commonly called… look at this and distribute the resources in the security sector correctly. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

The second threat that is facing this country is crime; MR KAPINGA: Allow me to conclude honourable violent and intrusive crime especially in the urban areas. and then you can come in. That is what are commonly There is a growing upsurge of violent and intrusive called ‘military firearms,’ arms of war.” Those are the crimes in the homes and in the streets. Actually, if you ones that are prohibited under the Police Act, but this look at the way you distribute the resources, it does not law which you passed, authorises the Director to acquire reflect that you accept this as a priority, it does not! Some such firearms if it is in the interest of the nation. of you will go from here and say Honourable Kapinga HONOURABLE MEMBER: O kae Honourable ga a rate sesole, whether you say that or you do not say Kereng a tle go rutega. it, it will not bother me because I know that what I am saying is the truth. MR KAPINGA: If it is in the interest of the security of Another thing that compounds this situation, if you want the nation. to go on a journey of transformation, you have to be HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… truthful in the way you do things and take decisions. If you disarm the Wildlife Anti-Poaching Unit and go MR KAPINGA: Now you can raise what you wanted around telling the nation that those arms were acquired to raise Honourable Member. in violation of the law when you know that it is not true, I do not know how to describe that behaviour, it HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR is dishonourable. I am saying this Mr Speaker, because TSOGWANE): Thank you very much. Entirely Section 73(3) of the Wildlife Conservation and National agreeing with you Honourable Member, but in the same vein, you must now talk to the one that specifically Parks Act is very, very clear. confines, allows or empowers the BDF to be the only HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… institution that has the mandate to carry weapons of war, because I want to hear in the same vein if that one will MR KAPINGA: I am going to read it. “Where it is relate to what you are saying. necessary... HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Gatwe o kopa permission ya to quote. MR KAPINGA: Mr Speaker, when I prepared for this debate, and even at the time the decision was taken MR KAPINGA: Oh! Mr Speaker, I am sorry. “Where it to disarm the Wildlife Unit, I carried out a thorough is necessary for the discharge of his duties or the exercise research into the law, I looked at the BDF Act, Police of his powers under this Act, and notwithstanding the Act and the Wildlife Conservation and National Parks provisions of the Arms and Ammunition Act, a Wildlife Act to see where does the law say that it is only the BDF officer may carry a firearm with him, even on lend of that can carry military style weapons, there is no law which he is not the owner for the protection of himself that says that. If it is there, feel free Your Honour to raise or any other person, the prevention or investigation it when you respond at the end of the day.

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HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… ruins of schools; ruins and not dilapidated. I do not see anything in this budget that says we have set aside this HONOURABLE MEMBER: A e bone kae? amount of money to refurbish our schools; a marshal MR KAPINGA: I even challenged the Attorney kind of plan is what I am looking for to deal with the General publicly to say which law goes against Section state of our schools in Okavango; not business as usual. 73(3) of this Act and nobody has ever raised such law. MR MAJAGA: On a point of elucidation, Mr Speaker. So, some of these crisis are of your own creation, and if Thank you Mr Speaker and thank you Honourable you want to transform and turn around things, admit that Member. I do not know whether I heard you as you were you have messed up and take the right decision. doing your presentation pertaining schools in your area, HONOURABLE MEMBER: And apologise. referring to one of the schools as ruins. Kana go raya gore ke letlotla, ga se sekole. Mo Botswana? Is it true? HONOURABLE MEMBER: Own up! Thank you Sir.

MR KAPINGA: Funding of the Criminal Justice MR KAPINGA: Honourable Majaga, it is very true. I System say this not to impress anybody, but to drive the point home. If anybody disagrees with me, I challenge them Crime is the real threat in this country. If we want to to put me at the back of their vehicle and we drive to make this nation a safe and secure nation, like we were Seronga and they see for themselves with their own two saying in Vision 2016, I do not know what it says in eyes, like the Nigerians would say. the new Vision, but in Vision 2016, you were saying you want to create a safe and secure nation, it will not Roads be safe if crime is not under control. It will not be safe if there are inordinate delays in our court system to Honourable Minister, I looked at the budget, and I had dispose of serious criminal cases. It will not be a safe hoped that there would be something for us in the line and secure nation if bail is granted indiscriminately to of Sehithwa/ road. I will be honest with you violent criminals and repeat offenders. How do you Honourable Minister. I was addressing Kgotla meetings grant a murderer who has killed twice bail, how do you in my constituency, and fortunately I was restricted by do that? Yet this budget that has been presented before time. I am saying fortunately for you because when I us does not present any, anyway we will wait until the was addressing these meetings, the sentiments that I Honourable Minister presents his ministerial allocations saw and heard from my people, are what amounts to to hear transformative initiatives. a potential insurrection. O nkutlwa sentle Minister? An We are talking transformation and not deja vu; not insurrection is brewing in Okavango because of the business as usual; transformative initiatives that will state of our road. People are saying, “enough is enough; change the flavour of our criminal justice system, and we cannot continue to be served by a road like this when that will deal away with the temptation for people to we are a part of an upper middle income of the Republic resort to mob justice. By pointing at people and telling of Botswana.” Ga ba itire Minister; that road is horrible. them they are barbarians and uncivilised, that is why Corruption they engage in mob justice, we are totally missing the point. The point is that confidence in the criminal justice Honourable Minister, you have good ideas, and from system is waning, and it continues to wane towards what I have seen in you, you have a good heart. You crisis propositions. So, there is need for you to take want to do something good for this country, but from this urgent action in that regard. budget, I do not see anything that is going to happen to uproot corruption in Botswana. What drove me into this Schools business of politics is to see my country being pervaded Honourable Minister, I will do what my colleague has by corruption. I do not see anything in the budget that done, to tell you that the constituency I represent, is in says to me that anything effective is going to be done to a crisis situation in terms of education. Gowa Junior uproot corruption in this country. Countries have been Secondary School recorded 14.8 per cent pass last year, taken down the drain because of the people that are Ngambao in Seronga recorded 14.1 per cent pass. Those assigned to the top most positions in key institutions. are schools that are not in a state of dilapidation; they are I want to say to you that if you do not appoint the right

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people to lead an organisation like the Directorate on ke simolole ka go... nna fa fatshe Dithapelo Keorapetse. Corruption and Economic Crime (DCEC), you will Ke tsaya gore bo Honourable Members of Parliament never get any result; it will be business as usual. We will ba setse ba lemogilwe, ba dumedisitswe. Ke batla go be told of investigations and arrests, but you will never simolola ka go akgela, e bile ke leboga tshwetso e hear of any meaningful conviction because the person Batswana ba e tsereng ya go batla gore ba fetole dilo in charge has no idea what he is there for. You have to ka fa di ntseng di ntse ka teng. Ke batla go bua ke re, appoint the right people Honourable Minister, people Batswana ba tsere tshwetso ya gore ba batla diphetogo who have proven competency in investigation and law. tse re buang ka tsone re le ba Botswana Democratic In other countries, they appoint judges and distinguished Party (BDP). Batswana ba tsere tshwetso e ka go dira law enforcement officers ba ba tlhotlhomisitseng mo maitlamo le tebelopele ya bone ya dikete tse pedi, botshelong jwa bone, not to take a soldier from the masome a mararo le borataro; Vision 2036. barracks and make him Head of DCEC. That is wrong, and you will never get any good results if you continue Mr Speaker, kgang e re buang ka yone ya go fetola, e to do as you are doing. tsamaelana le se se begilweng ke Tona wa tsa Madi le Ditlhabololo tsa Itsholelo, Honourable Dr Matsheka. Lastly, Mr Speaker, I want to commend the Minister for O buile ka botswerere, a amantse pego ya gagwe not hiking taxes. When we were in Selebi Phikwe, the le diphetogo tse Batswana ba di batlang le tse ba di buzzword was that taxes were going to be increased. I was tlhomileng mo maikaelelong a bone a tebelopele ya pleasantly surprised that taxes have not been increased. setšhaba. Bangwe ba ntse ba bua ba re, ga go ka ke ga What I would like to urge you is that, pursue the right kgonega gore re tswe mo itsholelong e e ikaegileng people and companies that are failing to pay tax in this ka ditswammung e re ntseng re le mo go yone, country. Pursue the Chinese who are not paying tax in segolobogolo re ye kwa go e e ikaegileng ka dikitso. Ke this country, who do not issue receipts. O duela cash and batla go bua jaana ke re, Batswana ka ngwaga wa dikete they give you a little thing. That is obvious symptom of pedi lesome le bosupa, fa go dirwa patlo maikutlo ya people who are involved in tax evasion. Those are the tebelopele ya lefatshe le, ba ne ba botswa dipotso di le people to pursue, not Duma Boko. People involved in tharo, e seng maDomkrag kwa Congress ya Domkrag the second hand motor industry. I am not the best one kana maDomkrag kwa National Council kana at the to prescribe the list for you, but those are the people to rally. Go ne go bodiwa Batswana lefatshe ka bophara. pursue and not an individual just because he is involved Ba boditswe dipotso di le tharo; ya ntlha potso e ne e in politics; e bo e le gore we deploy all the resources re le batla go bona Botswana a ntse jang ka ngwaga wa behind him because we want to frustrate his political dikete pedi, masome a mararo le borataro? What kind initiatives. It was bad, immoral and unjustified; what of Botswana do you want to see by the year 2036? That happened in terms of the behaviour of your Botswana was the first question. The second question e ne e re, Unified Revenue Service (BURS). You have to pursue le batla gore Motswana a bo a ntse jang ka ngwaga wa the right people who can make a significant contribution dikete tse pedi, masome a mararo le borataro. What kind to our tax coffers because they are involved in business of a Motswana do you want to see mo Botswana by the and leave alone poor individuals just because they are year 2036? Ya boraro e bo e re, gore re kgone tse pedi involved in politics. tsa gore Botswana a bo a ntse jalo le Motswana a bo a ntse jalo, ke gore go bo go dirile mang mme a dirile eng? As long as you are there Honourable Minister, I That was the third question e e neng e bodiwa setšhaba have a ray of hope, and I would encourage you to be sa Botswana. Konokono ya karabo ya Batswana e bo courageous despite that you are entangled in that system e nna gore, re batla itsholelo ya lefatshe le, e nne e e that is called Botswana Democratic Party (BDP). A akaretsang botlhe ba ungwelwa mo go yone. Re batla single individual like yourself can make a change, and gore itsholelo ya lefatshe le, e nne e e kabakantsweng that little change that you can make, will be appreciated segolobogolo e lese go ikaega ka ditswammung, e by the citizens of this country. I thank you Mr Speaker. simolole go ikaega ka dikitso; transformation. E ba HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… reng, they do not want a resource-based economy as a driver of the economy going forward, rather, ba batla MINISTER OF EMPLOYMENT, LABOUR a knowledge economy. This knowledge economy, rona PRODUCTIVITY AND SKILLS DEVELOPMENT re le party ya BDP, re bo re reetsa Batswana, re bo re (MR BALOPI): Thank you Mr Speaker. Le nna mma ba araba ka maitlamo a rona gore re tlaa tsaya tse ba di

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dirileng mo maitlamong a bone a ngwaga ya dikete tse MR BALOPI: Ke a leboga Honourable Hikuama. Le a pedi, masome a mararo le borataro gore re tswelele pele. nkgakgamatsa, legale ga ke gakgamale thata ka gore le kopakopane, ga le itlhaloganye, e bile ga le dumalane. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. Moeteledipele wa Kganetso maabane fa, o letse a rile ga MR BALOPI: Ke gone fela ke simololang ntlogele ke go na ope o e leng gore mo Botswana, o ka dumalana le gotele, ke tlaa tla ke go neela my good friend. Domkrag fa e bua e re, knowledge economy, a eme gone mo Palamenteng e. A re ene ga a dumalane. O ntse o bua MR TSOGWANE: Point of clarification. Ke dumalana o re, le santse le le fa le leng teng kwa Ngami. Batho ba le wena motlotlegi. Se ke batlang go se itse ke gore, a o ne ba ile teng, ba bolelelwa ke Batswana ba Ngami gore raya gore Batswana ba, ba akaretsa le ba Okavango le ba batla a knowledge economy mme wena wa re ga le Ngami ba ba neng ba bua kgang eo? ise le e bone. Ga ke itse gore o emetse batho bafe wena Honourable Hikuama ka gore jaanong... HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Laughter!)... HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)... MR BALOPI: Leader of the House, Motlotlegi Mothusa Tautona, o iteile kgomo mo lenakeng. Batho botlhe ba MR BALOPI: Ntlogele ke tswelele. Ke batla gore ne ba boloditswe. Go tserwe makalana a a farologaneng kgang e ya rona, re e tlhaloganye sentle. Ke batla gore ke a tsamaelana le Magosi, barutegi ba lefatshe le, batho ba e fetise fa ka gore kgang e ya transformation; knowledge e leng gore ka tebego ya rona, ke bagakolodi ba lefatshe economy, le akanya gore ke ya Domkrag, ke ya lona. Le le ba tswa mo dithutegong tse di kwa godimodimo thata lona le romilwe ka yone gore le tle go re e thusa. Re tse di tshwanang le tsa bo Rre Matsheka jaana. Batho tle re kgone gore re ye koo ka gore ke e Batswana ba e ba tshwana le ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi, ba ba emetseng batlang. Le se ka la tla go e ganetsa ka gore le baganetsi. the industries tse di farologanyeng, ba dikgwebo, Non- Agree with it and come up with ideas tse di ka re thusang Governmental Organisations (NGO’s) le banalebogole... gore re e tsweledise ka gore ke ya Batswana, e seng gore le tle go e ganetsa, e bile le ikepela. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. Se sengwe se ke se lebogelang Rraetsho Matsheka MR BALOPI: Ke santse ke araba potso mongwame, mo pegong ya gagwe ke go supa gore re le lefatshe la ke tlaa go e neela. Botlhe ba ne ba phuthilwe, ba bo Botswana, re itse kwa re tswang teng le kwa re yang teng. ba phatlaladiwa lefatshe le lotlhe, ba ya kwa Ngami, Ke tlaa kopa gore o ntetlelele Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo Shakawe, Mahalapye West, Mahalapye East, Sefhare- tsa Palamente ke nankole mo puong e e kileng ya buiwa Ramokgonami, gongwe le gongwe go le mo teng. Ba ke Tautona wa ntlha wa lefatshe le, Rraetsho Sir Seretse tsena mo Dikgotleng ba bua le bodiredi le batho botlhe. Khama golo a go letseng. O kile a re, “a nation without Ke bone ba ba dirileng tebelopele e Motlotlegi Leader a past is a lost nation, and a people without a past is a of the House. people without a soul”. Kgang e, e tsamaelana le gore MR HIKUAMA: Point of clarification. Thank rotlhe re itse gore go ka bo go setse go na le dingwe tse you Honourable Minister. Ke a leboga tsala ya me di dirilweng le tse re solofelang gore di tlaa dirwa go feta Honourable Balopi. It is not in dispute gore that is what ka gore re leba kwa morago. Ga e ka ke ya re o simolola we want, everybody wants to see Motswana moving o tsena mo Pusong, e bo e le gore ga go na dikgwetlho from resource-based economy to... tse o tlaa tshwanelwang ke go di baakanya. Gore o re o a baakanya, ke gore o bo o nnile le kgwetlho. Ke sone HONOURABLE MEMBER: ...(Inaudible)... se rona re le party ya ga Domkrag, jaaka le ne le utlwa pego fa, re ne re tsibogela seemo se se fetileng, mme re MR HIKUAMA: Ke go sa utlwa, fa o sa utlwe sentle, akanyetsa diemo tse re tshwanetseng re di baakanyetse ga re itse gore re ka dira jang. Ra re, modi wa go isa go ya kwa pele, re tshwaragane le Batswana. Ka jalo, fa koo ke thuto. Thuto ke yone e e ganetsang e seng gore o nna o ntse o re go kile ga ne go re, o tlhaba mainane, o batho ba a ganetsa. Thuto le maduo a bana ba rona mo a bo o sa thuse go ya kwa pele. O a bo o lemotsha gore dikoleng ke one a supang gore ga re ka ke ra goroga koo, tsone tseo, ke tse di re thusang go ya kwa pele gore re e seng gore batho ga ba eletse go goroga koo. Batho ba kgone go akola tse re di batlang. a batla, the problem is those who are driving the vehicle to take us there. Ke bone ba e leng gore they are failing Fa ke tswelela rraetsho, o buile thata o itebagantse Batswana. ka kgodiso ya itsholelo. Kgodiso ya itsholelo e, o e

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lebagantse le gore ga re ka ke ra kgona gore re tswelele e tswelwang ke batho ba mafatshefatshe pelo, e bile e na re le lefatshe la Botswana, re godisa itsholelo ya rona, le seemo se itsholelo ya teng fa re e bapisa le ba bangwe, fa e le gore tse di ntsi, tse di re ungwelang le tse re di le kwa mafatsheng a mangwe tota, re dira go tlala diatla. dirisang, ke tse di tswang kwa ntle ga lefatshe la rona. Ke bone badirelapuso ba ba neng ba ithaopa ka maphata Re simolole go ikitaya ka thupana, re nne lefatshe le le a a farologaneng go re direla. ntshang dikitso, tse di jewang le tse di aparwang. Le rona re ntshe mo lefatsheng le di ye kwa ntle as exports, Jaanong re batla go bua le bone gape re tswelele, re lebe as you said it. Re tle re balance dituelo tsa rona, re diemo tse re leng mo go tsone, re bo re bona gore re ka fokotse deficits tse di buiwang. dira jang gore re nonotshe, e bile re bo re rute ka gore letlhaku le lesha, le agelwa mo go le le gologolo, ba ba Ke dumela gore yone temana e o e buileng, e ke e ratang bontshe gore ba ne ba dira jang go ya kwa pele. E seng thata e, e raya gore Motswana mongwe le mongwe yo o gore e kete ga ba ise ba nne teng, sengwe le sengwe se ba kwa gae, a re utlwe re bua ka lentswe le le lengwefela, se dirang, re a se kgala. Jaaka ba bangwe ba bua gore re re mo fa maele, dikgakololo le tse di ka mo tswelang tshwanetse gore re simolole re ye kwa bodirelapusong, mosola kwa a leng teng. Fa re bua ka knowledge-based re bo ntshe ka gore ga bo dire sepe. Bo a dira, mme re economy, ga re bue fela ka sekole le thuto, le fa ke tlaa tshwanetse gore re itse gore ba tlhokana le dikgakololo tla ke tsena mo go yone. Re bua le ka dikitso tse di teng, le dithuto tse di maleba le to retool and reskill them to tse re ungwelwang mo dilong tsa rona tsa tlholego, di be able to address the current challenges so that we can tshwana le diphologolo tsa rona le tse re di ruiwang, gore go forward as a country. re kgona gore re di dire, re di fetlhe mo seemong sa gore re ka di dirisa. Jaaka nama ya rona e ratiwa segolobogolo Kgang e nngwe e rraetsho o buileng ka yone ke jaana, re ipotse gore ke eng se se dirang gore nama ya corruption. Corruption ga se fela go tsaya madi, kana rona e ratiwe mo go kanakana. Mongwe le mongwe wa o bo o ka tsamaya wa ya go tsietsa mongwe gore o rona ka gore kgomo ke ya Batswana botlhe, a bo a nna ungwelwe go feta jaaka o ne o tshwanetse gore o le gore o ka nna le kelelelo ya gore o ka rua dikgomo ungwelwe. Corruption e tsamaya le go tima batho tsa gagwe, a di nonotsha jang, go sena go nna go diriwa dikitso, o ba rontsha tse ba tshwanetseng gore ba nne dipatlisiso tse di ka supang gore ke eng nama ya rona e le tsone. Corruption e tsamaelana le gore e re o le ratiwa kwa mafatsheng. A bo re e dira ka bontsi, a bo re Mopalamente kana o le moemedi wa batho, a bo e le e ntsha ka bontsi, e bo e ungwela Motswana mongwe le gore o dirisa bo Citizen Entrepreneurial Development mongwe. That is part of knowledge economy. Agency (CEDA), mme o bo o ya go bolelela batho gore CEDA ga e a siama. That is corruption. Fa o dira jalo, Re bua ka dihutshane gore jaaka le itse ba bangwe ba ba go raya gore o rontsha ba bangwe kungwelo gore wena tswang kwa bo Kgalagadi, dikgaolo tse tsa bo go ya kwa, le itse gore nama ya teng ya podi, go kile ga e nne wena fela yo o akolang mananeo a Puso jaaka re a buiwa gore e molotsana ka mabaka a gore ditlhatshana tsaya rotlhe, mme re bo re a nyatsa re le Mapalamente. tse e di hulang, di sukitshana, di tsena mo nameng e. HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… The research and development e mmetela wa madi a a yang go tsena kwa go yone jaaka Tona a ne a bua, e MR BALOPI: That is part of corruption. Ga re a tlaa bo e gagamaletse, e beteletse mo goreng re batlisise tshwanela gore re tswe batlhanka ba mafoko a rona. Re dilo di tshwana le tsone tseo. Gore mongwe le mongwe tshwanetse gore re itse gore re lemoge tse di re direlang gongwe kwa a leng teng, a leme ditlhatshana tseo a tle sentle, e nne tsone tse le rona re tsamayang re rera ka a kgone gore a ntshe dipodi tse di ntseng jalo, re bo tsone e bile re bolelela batho gore di re ungwetse jang re di rekisetsa ba mafatshe a sele. Ke yone knowledge and stop being corrupt. economy. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… Gape re buile ka bodirelapuso jwa rona jo bo agileng lefatshe le. Rotlhe gone fa, fa re bua ka bodirelapuso jo MR BALOPI: Rraetsho, o ne o reng? bo agileng lefatshe le, e kare re itirile, e kare re dirile HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… lefatshe le e bile ga re tlhaloganye gore re tswa kwa kae. I am very proud of what the civil service and those MR BALOPI: Nnyaa, ke go bolelela nngwe ya dikgang who came before us contributed gore re bo re le fano, re tsa corruption gore ke eng. Jaanong bua le Mr Speaker ipitsa Botswana yo o ntseng jaaka re ntse, wa itsholelo e o tswe mo go nna. Re buile gore re tshwanetse gore re

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nne le ditlamelo le didirisiwa tse di nang le mmetela. Mr one facility within the constituency. Jaanong tsone tse, Speaker, ke lebogela kgang e e builweng ke Tona fa a re re simolole go ntsha poifo mo bathong, re ba tlhalosetse baya Pego ya Madi pele, a bua ka gore infrastructure ya the impact of developing meaningful infrastructure mo rona, kana ditlamelo le didirisiwa tsa rona, re tshwanetse dikgaolong tsa bone, e batho ba ka tlang go e dirisa gore gore re simolole go akanya thata gore e nne tsa sennela ba phatlalale mo dikgaolong tsa bone, ba ye go dira ruri, tse di rileng. Ke batla gore ke mo reye ke re Tona, dikitso le mananeo a ba ka tswang ba a ithutile gone o tshwanetse gore o re gakolole, e bile re gakololane le koo. Ke kopa gore o re thuse ka yone eo. rona fa re ntse jaana re le Mapalamente, re tswa kwa dikgaolong tse di masome a matlhano le bosupa tsa Kgang e nngwe e o buileng ka yone ke ya State Owned lefatshe le, gore ga se mongwe le mongwe wa rona, re Enterprises. Ke dumela gore nako e tsile ya gore re lebile ditsompelo le ditlamelo tse re nang le tsone re le simolole go lemoga, re pataganya dikakanyetso tsa rona Puso, yo e leng gore nako le nako o tlaa direlwa tsela e le tsa go dira ditlhabololo le go dira maphata a a thusang go mo kgotsofatsa, go dira gore batlhophi ba gagwe ba go tsholetsa itsholelo e, a e godisa. Re se ka ra a dira tle ba mo tlhophe gape a ba raya a re, o ba tletse ka tsela. fela ka gore gongwe re dumela gore re a bone a diragala Re tshwanetse gore re simolole go lebelela gore where kwa mafatsheng a mangwe. Ke a go rotloetsa, e bile ke are our productive, efficient areas tse di ka tsholetsang go ema nokeng gore o di bopaganye, o di tsolopanye itsholelo ya rona ka bofefo, gore re ise ditlamelo gone gore di kgone gore di nne very agile. Di kgone gore di koo. Re age dilo tse di nang le mosola, tse di ka tshelang tsibogele tse re di tlhokang go ya kwa pele. lebaka le le leele gone koo, one at a time, gore re se ka Rraetsho, nako e tsile gape ya go bua jaaka re setse ra tloga ra tshasa bontsho fela mo dikontereng ka gore o re simolotse, re ne re solofeditse re le Phathi ya ga patagantswe, e bile o pitlagantswe ke rona Mapalamente Domkrag, e bile go le mo Vision 2036 gore re tshwanetse gore re ise ditlamelo. E re morago ga dingwaga tse five, re simolole go sekaseka tiriso ya lefatshe ka fa le ntseng re bo re boa gape re re ga go na sekontere. ka teng. Re a itse gore go na le ditsetlana tse tharo, tse We have to have our planning e lolame gore re dire di tsamaisang lefatshe le. There is state owned land, dilo tsa sennelaruri, tsa motia, re dire dikole, ditsela, leasehold and freehold. dikokelwana le dikokelo tsa sennelaruri, mme re itse Pelepele ke tsaya gore nako eo, e ne e re fa gotwe gore di ya go ja tlhwatlhwa kgolo. Di tlaa dirwa one freehold, e bo e le gore ke polase fela e e tona, gongwe step at a time, di bo di kgona gore di kgobokane kwa e nna batho ba le foo, o dira dilo tsa gago gone foo. bofelelong, lefatshe le lotlhe le bo le ungwetswe ke high Mo bogompienong ka tlhokego ya lefatshe, re lebile quality infrastructure. Sekai; go na le madi rraetsho a a le mabaka a a teng a tshelang gaufi le ditoropo, batho fiwang constituencies, a bo P10 million. Fa motho a na ba ba neng ba reka dipolase e le freehold around the le wards di le 10, o batla gore a kgaoganye madi a ka city, e simolotse go nna bonno jwa Batswana ba e leng 10 wards, a bo a neela mongwe le mongwe P1 million, gore ba tsaya karolo, ba na le seabe mo go dirileng e kare ba kgaoganya madi a nnetane. Jaanong se o lefatshe le. Go thona Tona gore, re tswelele ka gore re tshwanetseng gore o se re gakolole as our Minister, ke nne re ba ree re re ba nne ba itirele ditlamelo, kana di gore re simolole go lebelela madi a gore fa e le gore dirwe ke ba bangwe ka gore ba setse ba ithusitse, ba dingwaga di tlhano, re bona P10 million each, a re simolotse go ipatlela fa ba ka nnang teng. Ke ne ke ka se ke re lebelele projects kante ditlamelo tse di ka re mo tshekatshekong ya rona ya ka fa re tsamaisang ungwelang kgaolo go dira ditiro, go fa batho ditshono lefatshe ka teng, re simolole gore bona gore, fa e le gore tsa gore ba tle go direla mo madirelong a a ntseng jalo. it is freehold but it is becoming high density jaaka kwa Ka gore fa o ba file tshono yone eo, ba tlaa kgona gore go Gaborone North farms, kwa kgaolong e ke e emetseng, nne le economic activity e e tlaa reng kwa bofelong, ba batho ba ba simololwe go isetswa ditlamelo. Ba nne part bo ba kgona gore le bone ba godise itsholelo ka bophara of greater Gaborone, ba tsene in the Urban Development e le small and medium enterprises. Mabaka e le a; fa ke Plan (UDP) and the National Development Plan (NDP) dira sekontere kante paving, ke se isa kwa kgorong ya gore ba isetswe ditlamelo. Se se teng ba simolole go gago gongwe ke fokotsa gore leswe la koloi ya gago le tlhaloganya gore, ke thulaganyo… se ka la nna teng, mme o tlogela bana ba ba sa direng mo HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... lelwapeng, o tlogela people with brilliant ideas ba le mo lelwapeng. Give them facilities tse ba tlaa tsamayang MR BALOPI: Nnyaa, e siame le yone e tlaa nna e ntse ba ya go dira teng, mme P10 million can maybe build e atumela Gaborone.

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MR KEKGONEGILE: On a point of clarification. sone, o feta o bolelelwa gore o ye go ja tsone, ke ene yo Talking about freehold land, go na le lefatshe le lentsi o tshelang a better quality of life. Se se teng, ke gore re le the colonisers ba neng ba le tsaya mo go rona se ka ra simolola go rotloetsa batho go tla ditoropong ka under those species tsa freehold land. They have long gore ke gone mo go tsenyang mafutsana le matlhotlha abandoned this land, what is your take mo go lone in pelo. Ke gore re simolole go ya kwa re thuse balemi- terms of Government taking it over, to allocate it to barui ba, re leke gore fa re ba fa dithuso jaana, kana re Batswana? ba rotloetsa, themelelo e e tona e nne gore re ba rotloetse to produce more and high quality products. Ke sone se MR BALOPI: Honourable Member of Parliament, re tshwanetseng go se dira. Ka jalo, ke a go rotloetsa rra ke akareditse freehold, segolo bogolo fa batho ba le nako e e tlang o nne o beye madi a Agriculture a ntse simololang go nna ba le bantsi teng ba pitlagana. Go fela jalo. simolole go nna le tirisanyo le puisanyo le batho bone ba lefatshe leo, ka gore rona re le lefatshe le le tsamaisang Fa ke tloga ke wela, ke batla go bua ka Public Private thulaganyo ka fa molaong, go tlaa tshwanelwa ke gore Partnerships (PPPs). Ke tsaya gore nako e gorogile fa go nna le letlhoko, le fa ke sa itse gore o bua ka ba gore re lebelele dikole tsa rona jaaka re bona maduo a fe, go simolole go nna le dipuisanyo tse di lolameng nna ka fa a nnang ka teng. Re utlwa ka fa go ntseng go gore that land le nne productive, e se ka ya nna lefatshe buiwa ka teng ka diemo tsa dikago, re utlwa go buiwa ka fela le se productive. Ke tsaya gore ke dilo tse re tlaa conditions of service. Gape re itebagantse le gore, a tse tswelelang re ntse re di lebile. re di rutang mo bogompienong a ke tse di tsamaelanang le kwa re batlang go ya teng. Ka jalo, ke tsaya gore Rraetsho, o buile ka kgang ya Agriculture mo pegong barutabana, baitseanape ba ba teng ba dithuto, nako e ya gago. Bagaetsho, Temothuo ke selo se e leng gore fa gorogile ya gore ba simolole go ela tlhoko gore a ba re bua ka go tlhatlosa itsholelo le matshelo a Batswana, ka se ke ba ipope, ba tseye dikole tse ba di pataganele re tshwanetse go itse gore Temothuo ke boremelelo jwa le Puso go di tsamaisa e le dikole tse di ikemetseng, dikgang tsa go godisa itsholelo. Ke sone se o bonang Puso e le motsaya karolo jaaka ke bua ka PPPs. Mabaka madi ka bokete, le puo e o neng o re e baya fa pele, e ke gore, dikole tse di ikemetseng o kgona go bona remeletse teng koo. Gompieno jaana fa ke ka le botsa gore maduo a tsone a nna a le kwa godimo, go na le lona Mapalamente, gore fa o nna kwa masimo o filwe sengwe se re ka ithutang mo go tsone. Gongwe go na tshimo ya 20 hectares… le sengwe se re ka se ithutang mo dikgannyeng tse. Ka HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... jalo, ke dumela gore re tshwanetse go gogela go ya koo. Jaaka le brigades re ya go simolola re akanya gore bo MR BALOPI: Nnyaa, monwana o ke le supa ka Gobotswang ba simolole go di tsamaisa, ba tle ba utlwe lerato fela, ke le botsa lotlhe, ga se monwana o o gore go tewa eng fa gotwe go tsamaisa brigade. tshwanang le wa ga Rre Kapinga, a setse a omana. Ke raya gore kgang ya lefatshe, fa ke go botsa gore motho Rraetsho, fa ke tloga ke wela, ke batla go bua ka The a nna kwa masimo a na le 20 hectares, a bo a neelwa Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board (PPDAB) Integrated Support Programme for Arable Agricultural Act. Ke a go leboga rraetsho, gore o bo o bua gore o ya Development (ISPAAD) kana Livestock Management go lebelela gore PPADB e a sekasekwa ka fa e dirang ka and Infrastructure Development (LIMID) gore e mo teng gore e fefose go dira tsamaiso ya go isa ditlamelo thuse, a bo a boa gape a dirisa ditonki tsa gagwe a kwa bathong. Bagaetsho, ditlamelo fa di le kwa court di goga selei, a agile ntlo ya gagwe ka mmu a e ruletse tshwanetse go ya kwa bathong, ditiro ga di tlhamiwe. ka bojang, a e beile ditlhomeso. Le nna yo ke nnang Dikgetsi fa di le kwa court, metsi a tshwanetse go ya mo Gaborone ke tswa go tsaya a mortgage, ke tsenya Maun West, ditiro ga di tlhamiwe. Ga se metsi fela a a bana mo dikoleng tse di duelwang, ke bereka, phakela sa noweng, go raya gore itsholelo e eme. Batho ba ba ka le phakela ke emelela. Fa re bua ka quality of life, who bong e le batsaya karolo ba le gone foo ba dira, ga ba is living a better life? We have to ask ourselves this dire. Ka jalo, re tshwanetse go simolola go itebaganya question. Fa re bua ka quality of life, the person that le kgang e ka bofefo jo bo tseneletseng. Gore re dire I defined yo o nnang kwa dikgaolong, kwa masimo a kgang yone e le buang ka yone, a ke corruption, a ke lema, a ja dijo tse di organic, fa o tswa fa o ya go di tsamaiso e e leng telele go ka rarabololwa, gongwe ke reka o fitlhela di tura, fa o tswa fa gongwe mmele wa nako ya gore jaanong dikgotlana tse di tlaabong di lebile gago o tswa mo seemong se o neng o ntse o le mo go dikgang tse di isang ditlamelo kwa Batswaneng, fa e le

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gore go na le mongwe jaaka e le tshwanelo ya Motswana tse di tshwanang le e khukhwa e e mangole a ditshipi gore a ipelaetsa, fa a belaela gore go na le sengwe se se QKJ Masire, ga mmogo le Peter Simako Mmusi, Festus sa diragalang sentle, fela jaaka le ne le ipelaetsa maloba Gontebanye Mogae, Baledzi Gaolathe le yo a mo le dumela gore ditlhopho ga di a tsamaya sentle, re tlhatlhamang e bong Rre Matambo. le tlogetse, e bile re a le lebogisa le fa le jelwe jaana gore go siame fela, mme gone le ne le ipelaeditse le Ke batla go leboga gape gore Moeteledipele wa le Batswana. Ka jalo, ke dumela gore re tshwanetse Kganetso, mo puong ya gagwe o lebogetse gore e go nna le dikgotlana tse di lebelelang dikgang tse di kare o hema phefo e ntšha fa o bua o ntsha pego. Fa re tshwanetseng go isa ditlamelo kwa Batswaneng, gore farologanang teng ke gore nna le ene, ka re bana ba mpa, go fefosiwe go di reetsa. Batswana ba bo ba tswelela ba ga re ise re ko re itse go bina; go bina mo mapantsola a isetswa ditlamelo jaaka e le tshwanelo ya bone. Lobatse le kwa Kanye a go dirang. Ke farologana le ene ka gore mo pegong ya gagwe, motho wa ga Matsheka Rraetsho, ke a dumela gore Citizen and Economic o buile ka gore o tlotlomatsa bodiragatsi. Molaetsa o Empowerment Law, ga go re sepe, ba bangwe ke utlwa ke o utlwileng o o isa kwa mapatsoleng a Lobatse ke ba re ba sale ba bua ka yone bogologolo, ke gone e gore ba tantshe (dance), ba tantshetse ruri, mme tantshe diragalang. Bagaetsho, sengwe le sengwe se na le e e ba tshedise. Jaanong nako e e tlang fa Motlotlegi tsamaiso e e leng gore le Batswana ka nako e se dirwang, Saleshando a na le moletlo, a itse gore batho fa ba tlile ba tshwanetse ba bo ba le mo seemong sa gore ba ka tla go natefisa moletlo, ba a duelwa. Ke gone fa re tlaabong go ungwelwa mo go utlwalang. Ga o ka ke wa simolola re ba diretse dilo tse ba ka itshetsang ka tsone. fela e re o ise o ithute dilo ka bontsi, gatwe dilo makwati di kwatabolotswa mo go ba bangwe, e re o ise o batle go Rraetsho, re lebogela tekodiso e o neng o e ntsha o sa dira dilo o bo o re o ka ikemela ka nosi. Nako e gorogile mpampetse. Ke tlaa nankola dilo di le pedi di le tharo ya gore Citizen and Economic Empowerment…, gore fela tse di supang gore o ne o ntsha tekodiso e e sa bo Rre Saleshando ba kgone to supply dijo sentle kwa mpampetseng. O buile gore maphata mangwe a Puso Botswana Defence Force (BDF) a sa kgorelediwe a tshwanetse gore a lebelelwe; a tsenngwe leitlho, ke ope. A tsere gone foo, a sa tshwanela gore a bo a a tlhabololwe gore a tle a re thuse gore re tlhabolole ipatagantse le ope fa a isa ditlamelo, a ke kae fela le mo lefatshe le, re le ise kwa re batlang go le isa teng gore e dipateleng. bo e le lefatshe la itsholelo e e kwa godimo.

Ke raya gore le lona jaaka le le bonya go bona gore go O buile gape rra o sa mpampetse gore re ele tlhoko gore tse re di rekang o kare di fetwa ke tse re di rekisang. thata go tsaya Puso le nna le ipoeletsa jaana, lefatshe le Ka jalo, re tshwanetse gore re tlhabolole Puso e gore ntse fela jalo, le tsamaiso e ntse fela jalo. Le bonya mo kamoso ka madi a o a abileng, e bo re le mo maemong go lemogeng gore Puso e thata gore e ka tsewa mo go a mantle gore jaanong e bo re rekisa go gaisa jaaka re Domkraga. Ka jalo rraetsho, ke leboga thata gore o bo reka. o mphile sebaka Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Le lona ke lebogela dikakgelo tsa lona gore, Batswana Rraetsho, ke batla go go lebogela gape gore ga o a ka ba bona gore, o ke ngwaga wa diphetogo tse di tlaabong wa ntsha tekodiso fela; e bile o ne wa tla ka metlhale di ba ungwela go ya kwa pele. Ke a leboga Motsamaisa e o sutisang gore ka yone re ka dira jang gore lefatshe Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. le re tlhabolole itsholelo jaaka Batswana ba kopile gore ba batla itsholelo e tlhabololwa gore lefatshe e MINISTER OF HEALTH AND WELLNESS (DR tle e nne lefatshe la maemo a ntlha mo itsholelong mo KWAPE): Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa dingwageng tse di tlang. O buile ka go godisa itsholelo Palamente. Mma le nna ke leboge Tona wa Madi, Ngaka mo go tlaa dirang ditiro, bogolo jang ka gore lefatshe Matsheka, gore a bo a re beile pele pego ya setšhaba ya le, le na le banana, mme kana gatwe maoto a nong ke gore o ya go ratha jang kgomo e ya madi e a tlileng go phofa. Banana ba ke bone ba re lebileng mo go bone e abela Batswana. gore ka gore ba natla, ba nne le fa ba tsenyang diatla teng, mme e re fa ba tsentse diatla, itsholelo e gole. Ke simolole ka go mo kgothatsa gore jaaka a ne a bua gore o eme mo ditlhakong tsa batho ba ba neng ba na O nankotse gore re tshwanetse gore re tlhabolole dikago, le kgatlhego mo setšhabeng, go a tshwanela gore a bo ditsela le tse dingwe, mme re di tlhabolole ka tsela e e a eme jalo. O ema a tsepame, a tlhamaletse ka gore o tlhabologileng, e e leng gore ba ba ikemetseng ka nosi pagame mo magetleng a dikwankwetla; dikwankwetla le bone ba tsaya karolo mo tirong eo.

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O buile ka tiriso ya maranyane gore nako e ga se le eteletseng. Kwa Lephateng la Botsogo, go botlhokwa ya maloba, re tshwanetse gompieno re bo re ithuta gore re neele Batswana ditlamelo tsa botsogo tse di maranyane, re bo re a dirisa gore e nne one a eteletseng eletsegang, tse ba di itumelelang tsa segompieno gore pele mo go godiseng itsholelo ya rona. O buile gape ka Motswana fa a ya kwa kokelong, a fitlhele tsotlhe tse di go isa ditiro go tswa mo Pusong go ya kwa dikgaolong teng. Re a leboga rra gore o atlile megopolo e re tleng (decentralisation). O lekodisitse ka yone rra, mme e bile re e arogolane le wena gore re tsenye maranyane gore e le nngwe ya dilo tse o akanyang gore re ka tlhabolola re kgone gore re tsamaise ditiro tsa rona tsa botsogo; itsholelo ka tsone. Dilo tse, di tlaa dira gore ditlamelo dipilisi le diipone di nne teng kwa dipateleng. Ke kwa le le Botlhaba go ya go wela kwa lebogela serwe se o se mphileng ke le kwa Lephateng la Lehoko, ke sa lebale Betesankwe, Lobutse, Tsonyane le Botsogo. Serwe seo ke re le fa kgomo e le nene, re tlaa e Selokolela, di goroge koo, ka tsela e Batswana ba tlaa atisa gore Batswana ba tle ba bone ditlamelo. di itumelelang. Ke tlaabo ke sa feleletsa go bua ke le Mopalamente go Ke ratile gape rra ka motlhale o mongwe o o buileng tlhoka gore jaaka ke itse o rathile madi e bile ke itse gore ka one o e leng one o o ka dirang gore itsholelo e ya Matona a re go potapotileng gammogo le boeteledipele lefatshe la Botswana e ye kwa re e batlang teng mo jwa rona, re batla gore go nne le ditlhabololo, ke a dingwageng tse lesome le borataro tse di tlang. O buile tshwanela gore ke re, re ele tlhoko mongwame gore gore re tshwanetse gore re tsenye madi mo dithutong; Tona yo o lebaganeng le go tlhabolola dikole, bogolo mo thutuntshong motho, mme re rutuntsha batho ka dilo jang ka gore go na le tse di makgasa, gore di nne mo tsa segompieno. Ke tsone re ka tlhabololang itsholelo seemong se se ntle, a tshware thata, re na le ene, gore ka tsone. ledi le o le ntshitseng le kgone gore le tokafatse dilo tseo. O buile gape ka temo-thuo, e e tlhabolotsweng, e e sa tshwaneng le e re e tlwaetseng. Wa re jaaka Ratsie Le wa metlakase rraetsho ke batla gore e re a ratha serwe Setlhako a e tle a bue, wa re, “a re tšhentšheng,” re se a se neetsweng, a gakologelwe gore mo kgaolong ya tšhentšheng ka fa re dirisang lefatshe ke teng, gore me e gotweng Tsonyane, ga re na motlakase. Ke yone lefatshe le le nne le boboloka mo go rona. Wa re tiriso kgaolo fela mo Kanye South e e senang motlakase. Ee, e ya lefatshe fa re ka e ela tlhoko, ra e tlhabolola, e tlaa re fa a dira jalo a nkgopole. Le mo dikgaolong tse dingwe nna le seabe se se tona mo go reng itsholelo e e goroge tse di tshwanang le Selokolela, Lefoko, Tsonyane, kwa re batlang teng. Seherelela le Gamae, motlakase o o phaselediwe koo.

O buile ka tsa bojanala gore bo na le seabe se segolwane Ke lebogela gape gore lenaneo la kgopo ya metsi le thata mo itsholelong ya lefatshe la Botswana, mme wa lone le tsweletse ka go neelwa bonnyennyane jo le ba wa bua gore sebe sa phiri ke gore Batswana ba sekei, tshwanetseng gore le bo neelwe. Ke bua jaana ka gore karolo e ba e tsayang e kwa tlase, jaanong e tshwanetse kwa kgaolong ya me tiro e e tsweletse. Jaanong re eletsa gore e tokafadiwe e le tsela nngwe ya gore re tokafatse gore e tswelele ka bofefo, ka gore re tlhoka gore kgopo itsholelo. ya metsi e bereke, gore batho ba tle go dira madirelo a o neng o bua ka one Tona, gore fa madirelo a a le teng, O buile ka bodiragatsi wa ba wa re lekodisa ka tse di tlhabologo ya lefatshe e ka ya kwa pele. Ga ke batle tlaa dirwang mo lefatsheng la Botswana mo nakong e e go golola tlou ka matshoo, ke batla go go leboga go sa fediseng pelo, tse e leng gore ka tsone, re tlaa ngoka menagane Tona gore o tshware fela jalo, le dingwaga tse dikgwebo gore di gole. di tlang o tshware fela jalo, mme o itse gore bagaeno re O buile gape rra ka fa re tshwanetseng gore re dire ka na nao, re fa morago ga gago. E tlaa re ba go kgorometsa teng go tlhokomela ba ba senang natla ya go itirela kana ba ke itseng gore ba tlaa go kgorometsa, re tlaabo re go ba sena lesego mo setšhabeng gore ba ka tlhokomelwa tshegeditse Morolong. jang. O ne wa sutisa gore ba tlhokomelwe ka tsela e e Namane ya tholo kwa bofelelong ke batla go fetsa leng gore e tlaa reng kwa bofelelong, lehuma le le ba ka mafoko a o simolotseng ka one, a o neng o leboga apereng kgotsa le nyelele. Barolong ba ba go le fa ba robetse. Ke re lala Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, go a tshwanela ka ntho madi a tshologa Morolong, mme itse mo boteng gore ke leboge go gaisa ditebogo tse dingwe, ke leboga jwa pelo ya gago gore ba go lebile Borra Matsheka kwa se Tona a neng a se bega ka Lephata la Botsogo, le ke ba leng teng, mme ba go lebile fela ka menyenyo, ka

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gore o direla Botswana tiro e ntle thata. Ke a leboga him even though all the schools that are under your Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. superintendence are by definition antiquities.

MR SPEAKER (MR PULE): Honourable Members, HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… the floor is still open for debate. MS MAKWINJA: Thank you Botate. Before I attend ASSISTANT MINISTER OF BASIC EDUCATION to the critical issues raised in the Budget Speech, let (MS MAKWINJA): Mr Speaker, thank you very much me thank the constituents of Lentsweletau-Mmopane for the opportunity to respond to his Honourable Dr Constituency for being so patient with delays that have Matsheka’s Budget Speech. Mr Speaker, let me first stalled the development in the constituency. I say to start by formally wishing you and Honourable Members them, please continue to be patient, because some of the of this Parliament and staff a belated blessed and stalled development like internal roads for Mmopane are prosperous new year. Let me also take this opportunity being swiftly attended to. I thank those that found time to congratulate the Honourable Minister of Finance and to attend Kgotla meetings that I continue to hold and I Economic Development Honourable Dr Matsheka, no assure you that I will continue to pursue the issues that doubt, this year’s Budget Speech has been a breath of you raise with the relevant Government departments. fresh air. What I believe is a start of new exciting year and things to come. He indeed has done a sterling job. Mr Speaker, I now turn to the four national priority areas that will be key to laying the foundation to transitioning There will always be criticisms. Having listened to all this country to a high income status economy as stipulated Honourable Ministers that have responded thus far, I in the Budget Speech. The first priority Mr Speaker is believe they have also appreciated the Budget Speech, promotion of Export Led Growth; the focus will be on and their constructive criticism if I heard them well, was accelerated promotion of our goods and services aimed mainly of lack of implementation, which continues to at addressing the issue of balance of payment, which cost this country dearly. Clearly, your articulation of the as the Honourable Minister has said poses a constrain issues of concern that have to be addressed are those to economic growth. This will result in the much that the Government of the day has promised Batswana needed jobs for this country as different institutions that she will deliver on, and to that we salute you at least converge to ensure maximum exploitation of value this side of the aisle. chains in the manufacturing and agricultural sectors. Mr Speaker, you took us to Selebi Phikwe to appreciate The private sector approach to management of this the challenges faced by the people of that area. I must country, valuable, fiscal assets and development of this say that there is great and I mean great potential to beautiful country of ours at this juncture require a man create thousands of jobs in a very short period of time, of Dr Matsheka’s disposition, if we are as Government both boosting economic growth and enhancing export going to transform to the high status economy we all development. In one clothing manufacturing factory aspire for and it will be possible to attain. This transition that we visited Mr Speaker, the caretaker or the manager Mr Speaker is not going to happen by itself. It is going to said that at full capacity, that factory can create about need a total change in mindset in the way that we value 10 000 jobs. We saw youth entrepreneurs who can grow and supply the region with their products inInformation ourselves as Batswana in a fast changing globalised and Communication Technology (ICT), electricity area, world. the bulb company that is manufacturing high quality MR MOATLHODI: Elucidation. Ke a go leboga products. Many more Batswana I am sure are out there Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. that are just trying their level best to create jobs for Ke a go leboga Motlotlegi Mothusa Tona, e bile o le Batswana. Mopalamente wa Mmopane. Ke gone? We plead with the Honourable Minister; Dr Matsheka HONOURABLE MEMBER: Lentsweletau. to expedite activation of these incentives that are being talked about to take effect. Please! Not only that, for the MR MOATLHODI: Wa Lentsweletau. I am sorry. I Ministry of Investment, Trade and Industry; to work flat could not agree more with you Honourable Minister, out and help these businesses to access export markets that other side of the aisle agrees in total with every part so that they can be able to produce the quantities that and molecule of the Speech presented by the Honourable will actually result in creating more jobs for the country Member of Parliament for Lobatse. You also agree with and growing our Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

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Mr Speaker, I am very happy that the Honourable Minister public entities such as hospitals and schools in order has categorically stated that we will be refocusing to improve our standard of living for all Batswana, attention to the agriculture and manufacturing sectors irrespective of their economic status. during the Mid-Term Review and National Development Plan (NDP) 11. Therefore, we need to nurture and Information and Communications Technology (ICT) support the creation of an entrepreneurial culture. In Adoption this regard, Botswana is ranked on average 99 out of Botswana is ranked on average; 100 over 141 countries 141 countries on entrepreneurial culture. We are number according to the Global Competitiveness Report of one when it comes to poor work ethics, according to the 2019. However, we are ranked 12 out of 141… I feel Global Competitiveness Report of 2019. An ingrowth like I am speaking to myself. of innovative companies, we are ranked 113 over 141 countries. The Government with the leadership of His HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… Excellency the President of the Republic of Botswana, Dr Mokgweetsi Eric Keabetswe Masisi is determined HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Applause!)… to see to it that these global competitiveness trends MS MAKWINJA: Can I continue Mr Speaker? In are reversed. The Forbes Under 30 that is coming ICT adoption, Botswana is ranked on average 100 over to Botswana will see the 200 Botswana’s brightest 141 countries, according to the World Competitiveness interacting with the world’s best. It is our hope that with Report. However, it is ranked Number 12 on mobile the generous investment incentives, the Government cellular telephone subscriptions. Mobile broadband will be implementing soon and other big businesses will subscription; 65 over 141 while fibre internet give impetus. These young Batswana will become the subscription is ranked at 105 over 141. Yesterday we guiding light in our transformation agenda. Mr Speaker, were told that we are far from getting to the Fourth history will judge us all harshly if we do not facilitate Industrial Revolution as a nation. If all goes well Mr the development of entrepreneurship that is core to Speaker, maybe we are not aware of the development sustainable economic growth. that I will share with this honourable House.

Mr Speaker, enable us, I have already mentioned the need Review of Appropriate Policies and Enacting Citizen to implement the incentives to promote both domestic Economic Empowerment Programme and foreign investment. It is also important to note that we as Government have an enormous purchasing We note with excitement efforts, to enact a law that power. Through the Economic Diversification Drive will facilitate meaningful participation of citizens in (EDD), the implementation of the exports strategy can economic development. In reviewing this law, I request quickly become a reality as the Honourable Minister has that this word, ‘citizen’ should be preceded by the word, articulated in his Budget Speech. It is only through a ‘indigenous citizens’ for Batswana to fully benefit deliberate and vigorous implementation of the export from this dispensation. To further improve on this and import substitution strategy that the company can policy, please, consider including a clause that forces restore its external balance and create jobs that are foreign investors to partner with indigenous citizens required in an inclusive economy, in which Batswana on investment ventures. In some countries and I think are major players; Budget Speech by the Honourable Dr you know Honourable Minister, Mr Speaker, that in Matsheka. We will also see the roles of parastatals in the Middle East for example, there are Foreign Direct his speech be revisited, to ensure that those that are still Investment (FDI) policies; that force foreign business relevant, viable and can self-sustain are aligned with the and companies to partner with citizens. In some cases, transformational agenda. it even stipulates the number of jobs that should be given to citizens and where full foreign ownership is We support the Government’s effort in trying to resolve permitted, it is in certain businesses. the Botswana Meat Commission (BMC) crisis and hopefully in the medium term, we can see movements Mr Speaker, we sincerely thank the Honourable towards liberalisation of the sector, so is National Member of Parliament for increasing sub-contract Development Bank (NDB). This liberalisation principle awards to citizen-owned companies to 40 per cent by is fundamental to transforming this economy. I would non-citizen contractors awarded Government contract. like to further call for liberalisation of most, if not all, To that Mr Speaker, I am saying we were having 30 per

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cent and to what extent has that 30 per cent translated than later because this is the only opportunity for us to to empowering our business people; being Batswana? transform this country. Not only that, social programmes Would 40 per cent make a difference? We believe that will be reviewed according to the Honourable Minister with the law, it should happen. of Finance and Economic Development to improve efficiencies resulting in streamlined eligibility criteria MR TSOGWANE: On a point of clarification. Thank that would help to eradicate double-dipping. We thank you Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke re clarification fela, maybe the Honourable Minister for having made a proposal elucidation, not clarification per se. Kana batho ba to also enhance these programmes. The quantum bangwe ga ba utlwe sentle fa o ntse o bua ka bo 30 le 40 will always be debatable, but what I know is that per cent. Ba ithaya ba re gatwe dikompone tsa Batswana Batswana know when they are being sold a dummy, di neelwe 40 per cent. Tota boammaaruri ke gore di and these programmes are not a dummy. They know se ka tsa neelwa less than 40 per cent. Ba bangwe ba and appreciate the fact that they can access almost free ithaya ba re gongwe ke the upper limit, but not less than. healthcare in this country and highly subsidised free Thank you. education for their children and a plethora of all other MS MAKWINJA: Thank you Your Honour, Vice social protection programmes. President (VP). I think you have hit the nail on the head, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation. 40 per cent is the minimum. MS MAKWINJA: As aptly put, the aim is to have a HONOURABLE MEMBER: It is the upper. social programme that will sustain livelihoods of our MS MAKWINJA: It is not upper. people, and this will be made efficient to ensure that no vulnerable group is left behind. HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. MS MAKWINJA: No, that is how you understand it, MS MAKWINJA: Decentralisation principle Mr but it should not be upper; it must be the minimum. So, Speaker, is a welcome move and we are saying in my we will correct it if you have been sort of implementing constituency; Lentsweletau-Mmopane, we are calling it as the upper. for a fully-fledged sub district. This constituency can compete in agro and tourism businesses with the best in Ensuring More Efficient Government Spending this country, and can greatly contribute to the creation of much needed jobs thereby, reducing poverty and Again here Mr Speaker, the Honourable Minister has hit invigorating economic growth. Mr Speaker, Batswana the nail on the head. can benefit immensely from decentralisation because HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… they will have services nearer to their businesses.

MR SPEAKER: Honourable Makwinja, continue. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

MS MAKWINJA: The structural inefficiencies that MS MAKWINJA: Building Human Capital characterise our doing business environment result in I can attest to this one Mr Speaker. If you watched the a lot of wastage of resources. The litigations on big news last night, you will agree with me that the past infrastructure tenders that stall developments, poor declining performance in our schools will soon become implementation, wastage of resources and alleged history. In schools that I have personally visited white collar corruption are some of the major stumbling which are more than ten by now; mostly primary and blocks in growing this economy. I am confident that as secondary, I have realised that where there is passion, promised in the Budget Speech, our Government will apparent interest in the child and apparent interest in clamp down on corruption and wastage. We will see the the environment in which the child is, there has been a reprioritisation of approved projects and programmes remarkable improvement in academic achievement. I to align with the transformational agenda. We have have come to appreciate that these indeed, are a recipe to clamp down on corruption and wastage. This will for success in the education sector. require us Mr Speaker, to take very bold decisions that are going to unsettle a lot of people but if it has to be like Mr Speaker, efforts are being made through the that, we will rather suffer the consequences now rather implementation of Education and Training Sector

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Strategic Plan (ETSSP), to assess and remediate children my interest here Mr Speaker and Botate that my just as private schools are doing now. Children will be constituency, though adjacent to Gaborone City, pales helped from early on from preschool to develop their in comparison to similar constituencies. No internal God-given talents which will be further supported by roads or whatsoever in villages like Mmopane Block 1, multi-pathway education system. I was in one school no roads linking these big villages. Therefore, while when we were in Phikwe and without any Directive I support this principle of prioritising production areas from the region or headquarters, told me that they were 100 per cent, I also truly plead with the Minister to starting a piggery project. They have actually started, attend to some of these developments that really make thus the journey to a knowledge-based economy has our people feel excluded. already started Mr Speaker. We, in the Ministry of Basic Education, are very thankful for the budget provision to The same goes to the rest of Molepolole constituencies effect this transformation agenda of our schools. within the Molepolole Administration Authority. This authority bagaetsho, comprises my constituency, Like I said yesterday when responding to the member’s Rre Morwaeng’s constituency and Rre Regoeng’s question on school maintenance, we are very aware or constituency. Mr Speaker, I am talking about the challenges facing teachers and children in general. Lentsweletau-Mmopane constituency, with more than While these are being attended to, slow as it may be, the 40 000 people, while the two Molepolole constituencies school leadership and teachers continue to be trained to have just over 60 000 people. So, you can see gore I am enable them to stay relevant and implement this very talking about a lot of people. important strategic plan. In my constituency, we have a productive coal mine Honourable Kapinga, we agree with you that we have a that is trying its best Mr Speaker, to develop the area, major problem with school maintenance. I would like to but the cost of maintaining the roads used to transport believe that the insurrection that you talked about that is coal to markets, is proving to be very difficult indeed. brewing, maybe the state of our schools also contribute In our constituency, there is also great potential for to that. However, we can assure you that with the limited cluster crop and small stock farming because of the Development Budget assigned to the ministry, we will good soils and vegetation. We simply need roads to try to attend to most deserving cases that are really dire. make life easy for business to thrive in this area. On HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification. this note, the to road for example, leading to tourism facilities and Central Kalahari Game MS MAKWINJA: Provision of Appropriate Reserve (CKGR) is one of the critical roads leading to Infrastructure productive areas and tourist areas that can create lots and lots of jobs for... Provision of appropriate infrastructure is very key for economic development. The Honourable Minister MR LEUWE: Point of correction. Ke a leboga. Ga se of Finance and Economic Development must be Letlhakane to , ke Letlhakeng. commended for making it crystal clear that he will prioritise provision of infrastructure with the highest MS MAKWINJA: Thank you. Letlhakeng to Salajwe; potential to increase productivity in economic sectors sorry I pronounced it differently, it is written right here. to drive transformation. We entirely agree Mr Speaker. So, these are the roads that are leading to tourist and However, I plead with the Honourable Minister that for productive areas, that if they can be done; these are those infrastructure projects that pose a health hazard the roads that should be given priority Honourable Dr and make lives of ordinary Batswana very difficult Matsheka to ensure that we grow the economy and we to carry out their daily living activities and those that actually implement what we say. have been in the pipeline for long, should be treated Talking about infrastructure development, for us to differently. achieve aspiration of a knowledge-based society, there HONOURABLE MEMBER: Which pipeline? has to be extensive investment in Information and Communication Technology (ICT) to improve on the MS MAKWINJA: For example, the pipeline would rankings that I alluded to above, of mobile broadband be your Lentsweletau--Molepolole road that which we are standing at 65 over 141; fibre internet has been in the pipeline for ages now. I must declare subscription, we are sitting at 105 ranking. I am happy

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Mr Speaker, to see in the Budget Speech a commitment MR SPEAKER: Well, let me request this, can we leave by Government through Botswana Fibre Network the... (BOFINET), that it has started rolling out... HIS HONOUR THE VICE PRESIDENT (MR MR SPEAKER: Your time is up Honourable Member. TSOGWANE): Point of elucidation. Nnyaa, ga go a Honourable Members, can I ask you to sit down for a nna jalo Rre Moatlhodi, bo Mothusa Tautona ga ba na moment. If you remember, yesterday just in the middle the retirement packages... of our discussions, Honourable Pono Moatlhodi raised an issue about pension for Members of Parliament, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Yo o fa pele ga gago o and then he sought clarification from our Learned ntse a amogela pension... Parliamentary Counsel who actually said that she was MR TSOGWANE: O raya pension ya gagwe ya kwa not ready with information. She just whispered into my Botswana Defence Force (BDF)? ear saying that she has collected information, and wants to give response to the House. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Nnyaa.

LEARNED PARLIAMENTARY COUNSEL (MS MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, ga e yo mo Greenbook... MOKGOSI): Thank you Honourable Speaker, thank HONOURABLE MEMBERS: ...(Murmurs)... you Honourable Members. In fact, the question yesterday was whether Presidents do benefit from both gratuity MR TSOGWANE: Nnyaa, tlogelang go pateletsa ba ba and pension. Honourable Members, the answer to that seyong mo botshelong bagaetsho. question is that Presidents are only entitled to pension HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation. in accordance with the Presidents Benefits and other retirements, whereas Ministers, Assistant Ministers and MR SPEAKER: Can we close it for now? Members of Parliament are entitled to either pension or gratuity. The choice is upon Honourable Members; MR MAJAGA: Point of elucidation. Mr Speaker, ke whether they want to benefit from gratuity or pension. The lebogela tlhaloso e, mme ke ne ke re, kgang e e tlaa legislature Honourable Members, deliberately excluded batla nako re se mo Ntlong e re tsweletse ka dipuisanyo the President in accordance with Section 2 Sub-Section tsa Palamente, e batla re le kwa thoko. Gape gongwe re 2 of the Ministers and National Assembly Gratuities and kgone go itse, e nne our choice ka gore kwa ntle kwa go Pensions Act, that Sub-Section 2 deliberately excluded babalela batho jaaka Honourable Moatlhodi a ne a bua Presidents from benefiting gratuity in order to avoid maabane, gore fa e le gore go a kgonega, ba ba batlang double dipping. I thank you Honourable Members, I gratuity ba tseye, ba ba sa e batleng, e ye kwa pension, hope that answers your question. mme ke selo se se batlang nako.

MR MOATLHODI: Point of clarification. Ke a MR SPEAKER: Ke dumalana le wena Honourable go leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Majaga. The floor is open. Palamente. Thank you sir for your efforts in sourcing out this important information for us. The Learned MR TSHERE (MAHALAPYE WEST): Thank you Parliamentary Counsel in her reading did not say very much Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke le anything about His Honour the Vice President. In dumedise Mapalamente mo tshokologong eno. Ke ne ke my knowledge, His Honour the Vice President as a batla gore pele ke tsena mo mafokong a ga Honourable Parliamentarian, qualified and obtained; I do not mean Dr Matsheka, ke fetise dikgang di le pedi fela fa, fa o the current one qualified for graduity, and thereafter sat ntetlelela Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke and benefited from the monthly pensions and... kgang e e buang kana e re e bonyeng mo maranyaneng a Facebook, fa re bonang mo go lebegang o kare ke HONOURABLE MEMBER: That is double dipping. ngwana wa sekolo a lwa le morutabana kwa Mahalapye. Ke tlhalose gore kgang e re e bone, ke e kgale ke menne MR MOATLHODI: Definitely! That is what is being phatla Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. referred to by some of the top man as double dipping. Now as the situation is Mr Speaker, why can we not Ga se tlwaelo ya rona kwa Mahalapye go betsa allow the former Members of Parliament to double dip barutabana. Ke tiragalo e re e boneng lantlha. Ga if ever that is the language? re itse gore e ne e dirwa ke eng. Ka jalo, ke na le

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tsholofelo e e tletseng thata Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa re bona pego e, e tshwana fela le tse di fetileng mo Palamente and the confidence mo sekoleng sa Madiba dingwageng tse di lesome. Ga go na sepe se sesha kwa le botsamaisi jwa sone. Ke bua jaana Madiba e le mo Mahalapye. There is nothing new for Mahalapye in this tseleng ya tshiamelo; recovery, mo e leng gore re bua budget like all other budgets that came before it. Ke jaana re tswa kwa go 22 per cent kana re ne re le mo bohutsana kwa Mahalapye. number 22 now re le number 15. Madiba e mo tseleng e e yang kwa tshiamelong. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, ke Jaaka the Leader of Opposition maabane fa a bua mo kopile botsamaisi jwa sekole gore ba lebe kgang e ya go Palamenteng, I breath fresh air as well gore Dr Matsheka itewa ga barutabana mo sekoleng. Ba na le ditsamaiso a bo a tsene, a bo a tla ka pego e mo Palamenteng, e e tse di maleba tse di tlaa itebaganyang le yone. Jaaka re lebegang tota e kare is shortened from e re e tlwaetseng, itse bana, fa gongwe ga se ene fela, re tlaabo re supa with more specific and more reduced numbers. If you yo ka monwana fela mme go na le a lot of gangsterism could see, all the monies are expressed in millions mo dikoleng tsa rona. Re tshwanetse re di lebelele, re di and billions, there is no thousand, which was very ntshe ka medi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. interesting. It is much shorter. Fa ke reeditse, I picked Ke fetise jalo kgang e, re a e kgala kwa Mahalapye mme an economy or a Government under review. That is bogogi jwa sekole bo mo go yone. what I picked up, that we are under review. If I were to get review definition from the Oxford Dictionary… Kgang e nngwe ya bobedi e ke neng ke kopa go e fetisa MR SPEAKER: Honourable Member, o se ka wa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke e neng ke e lebala gore o simolotse ka Setswana. bua maloba fa ke eme e le lantlha mo Ntlong e. Ke bua gore ga ke otlolole letsogo la me go akgola bagarona MR TSHERE: Sorry, I apologise. You know, this ba ba ka kwa. Ke bua jalo gore ke tlaa emela pele gore provision actually did not allow for some of us who lekgotla le tle le tlhalose gore a go nnile le tsietso mo cannot distinguish between English and Setswana. ditlhophong tse jaaka bagarona ba ngongorega, e bile ba Sometimes you cannot tell whether you are speaking supa jalo. Lekgotla le ne le supa jalo gore ke lantlha le Setswana or English. I am very sorry I will try to stick to bona dingongorego tseo. Ke batla go boelelela kgang e, Setswana. I thought I was speaking Setswana actually. ke e digele for record Mr Speaker. Ke ne ke supa maloba HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… gore ke a sitega mme ke ntse ke a sitega le gompieno jaana gore ke ka otlolola letsogo leo ka gore lekgotla MR TSHERE: Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ga le a tlhalosa gore a go nnile le tsietso kana nnyaa. ke utlwile pego e bua ka gore re mo ditshekatshekong Ka maswabi, dikgang tse ga di a ka tsa sekwa. E sala e kana re a itshekatsheka. Fa ke ka dirisa lereo la Sekgoa ntse e le puo ya molomo fela. In fact, lekgotla le legolo fa o ntetla to quote from Oxford Dictionary about review, mo lefatsheng, le ne la tsaya tshwetso ya gore kgang e, ka gore ke lefoko le ke le utlwileng kgapetsakgapetsa fa le e ntsha mo maruding a bone le e baya mo maruding go buiwa ka budget. Jaanong review by definition, if you a Palamente. Ka jalo, re eme gone foo. Kgang e, e mo permit, from Oxford Dictionary… go rona re le Mapalamente gore re baakanye melao e e tsamaisang ditlhopho gore go se ka ga nna le pelaelo epe MR SPEAKER: Go ahead. mo tsamaisong ya rona ya ditlhopho go ya kwa pele. Re tlaabo re e tlisa gape gone fa, re batla go bua ka electoral MR TSHERE: … “is a formal assessment of something reforms. Re bua ka inks mo menwaneng gore re bone with an intention of instituting change if necessary.” Ke batho ba ba tlhophang gantsi. Ke dikgang tse re tlaabo gone fa re leng teng. This is what the budget ke utlwang re di lebelela fa re bua ka electoral reforms. Ka jalo, ke a e bua ka sone. We are assessing and examining. Re a sitega gore ke ka otlolola letsogo la me, ka ba ka akgola sekaseka fa re leng teng go leka go ngapa go bona gore bakaulengwe on the other side of the aisle. re ka tswa jang. Ke sone se ke se utlwang se buiwa. Ka tsela e e ntseng jalo, Goromente o tlaabo a sekaseka Ke boela mo mafokong a ga Minister of Finance and kana review priorities tsa gagwe. Goromente will review Economic Development, Honourable Dr Matsheka fa a the economy and National Development Plan (NDP)11. ne a baya pego mo Palamenteng ya kabo ya madi kana Ke se ke se utlwileng maabane. kakanyetso ya kabo ya madi a setšhaba a ngwaga wa 2020/2021. Pele ke simolole fela ka gore Motsamaisa Yone e ya NDP 11, ke yone e re e emetseng ka matlho a Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, rona kwa Mahalapye fa mahibidu kwa Mahalapye ka gore mo pegong e e duleng

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mo Palamenteng e, fa ke santse ke seyo, Molefhe a le fa, go yone fa re dira review. Jaaka ke bua, Goromente o go ne go buiwa gore storm water drainage, kana kgopo lebega a le mo nakong ya go leka go sekaseka, ke sone ya metsi a pula kwa Mahalapye, e tlaa tla e tla mo NDP se ke boneng a se dira. Ke ne ke le begela gore batho ba 11. E tlaare fa go nna le review, e tle e akanyediwe, e tsenelelwa ke metsi kwa Mahalapye. Mo ngwageng o o tsenngwe mo teng. Go teng in records tsa Palamente. Ke fetileng, fa Motlotlegi Mothusa Tautona, Rre Tsogwane bone Molefhe a bua jalo, a bo a solofediwa jalo. E bile a tlile kwa, go ne go falotse gore go se ka ga tsamaya re emetse NDP 11 gore re bone madi a a tlileng go fiwa batho. Metsi ao a ne a tsaya moraka wa dikgomo di le thulaganyo e ya gore re metsi kwa Mahalapye. 12, mo Mahalapye. E rile fa go tsogiwa phakela, re di fitlhetse foo in the culverts di sule. Betsho, ga se kgang Ke le bolelele boammaaruri, kwa Mahalapye gompieno e e tshegisang, batho ba Mahalapye ba mpoleletse, ba fa o ntse fela o robetse, in fact, fa ba bona maru a tsepame, go sena le fa e le pelaelo epe gore e ke yone kgobokana, ba a rapela gore pula e se ka ya na ka gore first priority kwa Mahalapye. Ba re re tshwanetse go fela fa e ka ba ya na… Mosadimogolo yo mongwe o dira sengwe mabapi le metsi a a ba tsenelelang mo ne a mpolelela ke ile kwa ga gagwe maloba a re o bone lelwapeng. Ke seemo se se gogomosang maikutlo. about a meter height ya metsi, a tla a lebagane le ntlo ya gagwe, a bo a tsena. Batho ba tsenelelwa ke metsi Jaanong Goromente o santse a le mo ditshekatshekong mo matlong kwa Mahalapye. Batho ga ba na ditilo, ga jaaka ke utlwa. We are going to review parastatal ba na malao, ga ba na couches, ba senyediwa ke pula. organisations, Botswana Meat Commission (BMC) gore Metsi a pula a tsamaya a sa laolesege mo motseng wa e felele e tserwe ke kompone e e ikemetseng ka nosi. Mahalapye. Selo se ke bothata. Ke sone se e leng gore We are going to review National Development Bank jaaka re emetse NDP 11, re tlaa leka go se gatelela. The (NDB), Public Procurement and Asset Disposal Board Government is going to review… (PPADB), commercial and sustainable agriculture, we are a nation under review. Yone e ya commercial and MR MOATLHODI: On a point of order Mr Speaker. sustainable agriculture, rona kana kwa Mahalapye we Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, are categorised by… I pray for your guidance. Mafoko a a buiwang ke Motlotlegi Mopalamente wa Mahalapye Bophirima, HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… a matona, a tshosa, e bile a kgaola pelo fa o le motho yo o nang le setho le kutlwelobotlhoko. Mo mafokong MR TSHERE: Review. E ya temo ya kgwebo, re e a, ka boikobo le boikokobetso, a Tona yo o lebaneng lebagantse le temo ya batho ba go ka tweng ba jela mo le lephata le, a ke kamoso, a ke ka Mosupologo, a dire ganong, ke godisitswe ke temo which was classified statement mabapi le mafoko a a botlhokotlhoko a gore gotwe re jela mo ganong. Kgang ga se go jela mo ganong batsadi ba rona fa ba tsewa ke metsi jaana, ene a reng? fela, e ne e le gore o kgona go bona dikgetsi tse dingwe, Ke a kopa, ke ikobile thata Motlotlegi Motsamaisa o bo o kgona go itshetsa ka tsone, o bo o kgona go Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. rekisa, o reka jalo. Mo bogompienong lenaneo la cluster fencing, ba tlaabo ba bolelela balemi, ba ba diretsweng MR SPEAKER: O kae Tona? O a utlwa. Tona o a go jela mo ganong, ba ba raya ba re, gore re le agele, go utlwa. tlhoka gore le bo le na 150 hectares. Okay, I tried gore ke lemoge gore 150 hectares o tswa kae. Fa o lebelela HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… advice from the commercial arable farmers, bone ba MR TSOGWANE: On a point of procedure. Ke a re fa o batla go nna productive, o lema commercial utlwa, ke botlhoko jo bo leng teng, re a bo itse, bo a arable, you have to be planting 150 hectares minimum. tshwenya. Ke kile ka ya go boa teng nna ka sebele, That is what they are saying and they impose that 150 kwa Mahalapye, nako ya dipula tse di fetileng. Se se hectares on farmers ba ba lemelang mo ganong. Selo se botlhokwa ke gore gongwe besides statement ka Tona o se re beile ka fa mosing kwa Mahalapye, batho botlhe tlaa tla a akgela, mme e bile jaaka bo Tona ba le reeditse jaanong ba mo Ipelegeng ka ntata ya yone kgang e. Ga jaana, e tlaare ba akgela, ba arabe matshwenyego a gona le fa e le lenaneo lepe le le tlaa thusang balemi ba batlotlegi, ba a tseye tsia thata. Ke a leboga. mofuta one o, re ba emetse ka dinao. Fa go diragala jalo, gatwe ba teratelelwe only half. MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Ke ne ke re eo ke e fete ka gore ke ne ke MR TSOGWANE: On a point of clarification. Ke a bega fela gore ke kgang e re tlaabong re tlhomame mo leboga Motlotlegi Mopalamente. Ke ne ke re ke kope

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tlhaloso, mme e bile ke e kopa jaana, ke tsibogela gore HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… tsamaiso kana le fa e bua ka 150 hectares mo baleming ba ba botlana, fa e le gore o bua ka cluster fencing, e a MR MOATLHODI: O ne o bua ntlha e e botlhokwa, o bo e raya go akareditswe hectares tsa balemi botlhe ba setse o e katogile lebakanyana, mme Rraetsho Motlotlegi ba mo lefelong leo ka bobotlana jwa bone. Mongwe a Mothusa Tautona, o lekile go go thusa, go lebega le sa na le 10 hectares, yo mongwe five, yo mongwe se, gore utlwana. Ntlha ya 150 hectares, Motlotlegi Mothusa go tle go nne viable gore Goromente a ba thuse. E bo e Tautona a re, go teratelwa balemi 150, e raya botlhe, le gore botlhe ba dira 150, e seng jaaka ba commercial wena o tlile ka 30 hectares; ke tlile ka 32 hectares jaaka a le mongwefela. tshimo ya me e le 32 hectares, jalojalo. Dipalo tsa rona le fa e le gore gongwe re lesome, di bo di dira ditema MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga Leader of the House. Yes, di le 150. Go lebega Motlotlegi Mopalamente golo fa ke bua ka balemi bone bao, jaanong kana fa o bua ka o sa go utlwe sentle. Ke ne ke re fa e le gore ga o e balemi ba ba lemelang mo ganong, ke ba ba lemang five utlwe sentle, tsaya kgakololo ya ga rraetsho Motlotlegi hectares. Fa e le gore you want to cluster 150 hectares, Mothusa Tautona. o a bona gore o batla batho ba le kae? Ba bantsi thata and that has proven gore ga go bereke, jaanong ke jone HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... bothata jo ke buang ka jone gompieno jaana. Let us MR MOATLHODI: Nnyaa, kwa kgaolong ya me e a revise cluster fencing so that e akaretse balemi ba, ba e bereka. Ke lebogile sir. leng gore ba kwa tlase, ga ba ungwelwe sepe. MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga. Ee, mme ke tsaya gore Se sengwe fa ke wela mo go yone, ke kgang ya re utlwane, ke tlaa tla ke boela kwa go yone. Ke ne ke Ipelegeng. Gompieno jaana go tserwe balemi ba ba neng bua gore Goromente o santse a sekaseka, ke sone se ke ba ka bo ba lema, ba isitswe kwa Ipelegeng. Motsamaisa kgothalang ka gore ke na le tshono ya go tla re sekaseka Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ke batla go tsenya mogopolo mmogo, ke dilo tse re tlaabong re di isitse kwa pele. gore, gongwe when we promote temo ya mofuta o, e e botlhokwa ka tsela e e ntseng jaana, re ka bo re ne We are reviewing the Economic Diversification Drive re lebelela kgang ya Ipelegeng. Fa motho a lemile, a (EDD), Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente. Let me mitetswe ditema e bile go le sure gore o setse a lemile ke take about a minute to explain EDD. Lenaneo le, le ntse Molemise, a tsenngwe mo Ipelegeng. E re fa a tsenngwa le le teng. Sa ntlha, EDD ba re itseng … jaanong rona mo Ipelegeng jalo, a kgone go dirisa nako ya gagwe le ba re leng mo private sector, lenaneo le re a le bona. Ke maatla a gagwe go tlhagola. E re fela dijo di simolola tsaya gore ga re nke re utlwa megopolo ya ba business go butswa Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, batho community relating to lenaneo le. Gompieno fa o lebelela ba bo ba ntshiwa mo Ipelegeng. Ke sone se re ka se EDD e go raya e re, when I tender le motswakwa for dirang go etleetsa gore re kgone go nonotsha. Fa re sa example, ke na le 15 per cent advantage. Meaning gore dire jalo, re ya go felela re le kwa kgannyeng ya gore my prices, fa e le gore di feta 15 per cent ya tsa my batho jaanong ba bo ba le kwa ga Mmaboipelego botlhe. competitor, ke ntse ke neelwa tender ntswa, he quoted Ke ne ke bua gore we are under review, we are going to kwa tlase, which is a good thing fa o go lebelela fela. review the citizen economic… Practically, it is impossible, you know why? Mma ke go fe sekai ka maloba re le kwa Selebi Phikwe, that MR MOATLHODI: On a point of clarification. Ke gentleman yo o dirang bulbs. O a bona gore factory ya a go leboga Motlotlegi Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa gagwe e kafe? Fa a ka dira bulb e le one, relative to Palamente. Ke kopa maitshwarelo thata Motlotlegi a factory in China, that makes over 100 000 of those Mopalamente wa Mahalapye Bophirima, Rraagwe bulbs per hour. The cost per unit ya bulb e e tswang Abotle, Honourable Tshere… kwa China le e e tswang kwa Selebi Phikwe, ya Selebi HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)... Phikwe is going to be higher, and that is the case. In fact, it is higher than the 15 per cent margin that is MR MOATLHODI: Nnyaa, ke itse la ngwana, ke put forth. O ntse o tura fela le fa o mo file 15 per cent motho yo o nyetseng, o na le ngwana… discount, that is what is happening. As a result, because we know what? Ga re a sireletsa this because a factory HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)… in China will bring the bulb at a cheaper price. Fa ba MR MOATLHODI: Makgwatha ga a bidiwe ka maina ntse jalo, go tsewa ene yo wa moChina, ga gona le fa e a bana a sa tsaya. le sepe se se dirwang.

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MINISTER OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT AND a health post, a hospital like Marina. Ke bo ke ema jaana RURAL DEVELOPMENT(MR MOLALE): On a ke bo ke iphitlhela e le gore ke nna fela a Biomedical point of clarification. Ke a leboga Honourable Tshere Engineer and with authority, I will order that hospital for not being influenced by the negativity by your closed, because there is no doctor. It is like that, and neighbour there. Ke ne ke re mokaulengwe, a re leke I will downgrade it to a clinic and immediately start go di farologanya go se kae; Economic Diversification moving all medical equipment out of that hospital. Now Drive (EDD) ke e e leng gore whether you are a citizen here we are, we have a Parliament that the three levels or a non-citizen but manufacturing for purpose of of command from Minister, Assistant Minister, and import substitution, o tshwanetse gore o fiwe priority Permanent Secretary… fa go tla mo tendering. Eo e buang ke Price Preference Scheme e e leng gore jaanong motswakwa a le fa le HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… citizen a le fa, re bo re bo re tender, motswakwa fa a le MR TSHERE: No, let us stop there. The three-lines of cheaper than me nna ke le kwa, I am given up to 15 per command at the Ministry of Health, there is no doctor. I cent price preference. So, ke ne ke re re di farologanye do not know what you say about Parliament or Ministry jalo, mme fela the point you are making ke gore, rona of Health, we are not serious. The doctor is at Deputy ba e leng gore we manufacture mo gae, re tshwanetse ra level, as I talk to you right now…, maloba ke ne ke bua fiwapreference and actually go nne le kiletso ya gore fa gore gona le Botswana Medicines Regulatory Authority dilo di le mo gae, re se ka ra di reka kwa ntle. (BOMRA); do you know who is heading it right now, a MR TSHERE: Ke a leboga. Ke tsaya gore ke e fetisitse Veterinary Surgeon. Ke gore the whole medical system ya EDD, e a ama. Jaanong, ka fa e ntseng ka teng, I can is operating without a doctor. If it was by me, I would tell you Mr Speaker, o bona what we are trying to do shut down completely, because you know why, it will kwa Phikwe, it is actually set in the path for fail. Ga re kill people. Jaanong, I am appealing to you, through ka ke ra e kgona re santse re na le melao ya mofuta one you Honourable Speaker, I am appealing that we should o. Re tshwanetse to nurture bana ba, fa re le interested, rectify this. I am not trying to badmouth anything, I am re dire thulaganyo ya gore bulbs tsele be manufactured simply stating a scenario that I found myself in, and it ka bontsi and re kgone to guard against it and ensure is very important that we stand up for this. E seng jalo, the good quality gore re kgone go di ntsha le rona. ga re ka ke tsa tsamaisa dilo ka tsela e e ntseng jaana. Se Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo tsa Palamente, ga se se se diragalang kwa maphateng jaaka ba reka. HONOURABLE MEMBER: Clarification.

Ke ne ke bua gore we are a nation under review, we MR TSHERE: Review; we are a nation under review, are still reviewing gore go diragala eng. Ke sone we are reviewing Public Private Partnership (PPP) se Dr Matsheka a neng a se bua. We are going to Model. I heard mo submission ya ga Honourable Dr review healthcare, Honourable Assistant Minister is Matsheka, gore we are reviewing the PPP model; PPP here; let me pause and be clear on this one. Ke fa ke model in under review fine, it is good. Kwa Mahalapye re emetse part of it, I am the Chairperson of Health and na le 20 years re emetse bus rank under this arrangement HIV/AIDS Committee of Parliament, but I am not a which does not even have a law ya gore go ya go nna doctor Honourable Speaker. I can never be a doctor, I le PPP. am Biomedical Engineer professionally, I am not even supposed to pose as a doctor, I cannot. The regulations Batho ba Mahalapye baa gakgamala Mr Speaker, ba are clear of who is a doctor; where I come in is where gakgamatswa ke gore of all the villages o tlaabo o utlwa the legislature now says, ga o ka ke wa leba motho ka gotwe Mahalapye e tlaa le bus rank through PPP. Go matlho jaana, o bo o mo raya o re o a lwala o sa mo tswa fa fa re botsa gore e berekile kae? Go tlaabo go tlhatlhoba. This is where I come, I bring the machine nopolwa Kanye le . Motsamaisa Dipuisanyo and make sure gore the machine reflects good results tsa Palamente, mafelo a a buiwang; Kanye, ga e ka mo ngakeng, ngaka a bo a tlhatlhoba motho a bo a ke ya tshwantshanngwa le Mahalapye gotlhelele fa re mmolelela. lebelela selekanyo sa bokete jwa traffic e e fetang foo. Now, if I were to go as a Biomedical Engineer and I Ke ne ke ba botsa gore, e le gore le ka bona jang gona go to a hospital, e bo ke iphitlhela e le nna ke leng fela le mosola wa gore go nne le bus rank e e ka kgonang mogolwane gone foo as a Biomedical Engineer in a to absorb dikoloi tse di kana kwa Palapye, le bo le sa hospital, o nkutlwe gore ka reng, hospital not a clinic not bone go na le mosola wa gore e nne kwa Mahalapye.

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Jaanong, bona fela gore dikoloi tsotlhe tse di fetang kwa down their weapons, they did, and they hoped that fa ke Palapye, whether they come from north or south, di ya le fa, bogolo gongwe ba tlaa bona sengwe se se botoka. feta mo Mahalapye. Ga re bone mosola wa golo moo. Se Ba beile ditlhobolo fa fatshe bagaetsho. Jaanong, ke ke santse ke tlaa tla ke se tlisa mo Palamenteng. Jaanong sone se e leng gore I am very proud of Parliament as an as we go… institution. In fact, I take my hat off that I managed to sit here and face my oppressors, and be able to tell them, HONOURABLE MEMBER: Elucidation. and I am very confident that with these oppressors, now MR TSHERE: Nako ya me e chaile mme ke feleletse. my friends, we will be able to take Mahalapye forward. Jaaka re le under review and I am happy like was said, I thank you Mr Speaker. I am breathing fresh air as well, jaaka my Leader of HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… Opposition. Jaaka re tlaa bo re le mo review jaana, re ise re itse gore re ya kae, re phoraphoretsa, re tlaabo MR SPEAKER: Honourable Lelatisitswe, the floor is re le teng le lona. Comrades on this other aisle you yours. Order! Order! Honourable Members! should not forget that we are dealing with the Botswana Democratic Party (BDP), this is the BDP that has been ASSISTANT MINISTER OF HEALTH AND ruling this country for 54 years! This is the BDP that has WELLNESS (MR LELATISITSWE): Ke a leboga made our people slaves. Mr Speaker.

HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Applause!)… HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… MR SPEAKER: Honourable Members! Honourable MR TSHERE: This is the BDP that today ba na ba Lelatisitswe, the floor is yours. e leng gore ba under 35 years ga ba bereke, over 40 per cent of them are not working, and over 40 per cent MR LELATISITSWE: Mr Speaker, a leboga gore o of those ba kwa Ipelegeng kwa Mahalapye fa re bua bo o mphile sebaka sa go akgela mo mafokong a ga… jaana. They are working mo Ipelegeng earning a little over P500, ba bereka six-hour shift without nothing; HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Murmurs)… ba kgaola ditlhare le bojang, mme ba sena protective clothing. Remember we are dealing with the BDP, this MR LELATISITSWE: Ke ne ke re ke a leboga is the BDP where you graduate from school o bo o tewa Mr Speaker, go bo o mphile sebaka sa go akgela mo gotwe nnyaa, ga o ise o lekane, ka mafoko a a rileng mafokong a re a beilweng pele ke Tona wa tsa Madi. o tlaabo o tsenngwa mo programme ya mainanyana a Sa ntlha ke lebogele kgololesego e e mo lefatsheng la a funny bo Government Volunteer Scheme kana Tirelo rona, e ke e bonang mo bakaulengweng ba ba fa pele ga Sechaba, all funny names. Fa o di lebelela jaana, they rona. Mr Speaker, ke supe gore kgaolo e ke tswang mo are meant to impoverish and enslave our people. This is go yone e bidiwa Boteti East. E na le metse e tshwana the BDP we need to be talking to. This is the BDP where le Mokubilo, Mmeya, Khwee, Mosu, Mmatshumo le o in history, the unemployment rate in the country is at an motonatona mo kgaolong eo, o o bidiwang Letlhakane. all time high, this is the BDP we should never forget. Rraetsho Tona, re go leboga ka pego ya gago e o re e This is the BDP that refuses to pay, just listen, mere 113 beileng pele. Ke pego e e supang gore re le Goromente, 728 old age pensioners, that refuses to pay them P1 500, re ntse re ya kwa pele. and instead they are paying them little over P500. This is the BDP we should never forget. Sa ntlha re leboge Puso e ya Domkrag gore ga go na ka nako epe e re kileng ra palelwa ke go tla fa pele ga On a lighter note, as I conclude, people were asking me Mapalamente go tla go ba begela ka pego e ya madi. how does it feels like to be in Parliament, how does it Rra, o supile dikgwetlho mo pegong ya gago tse re nang feel like to stand here before you. I told them, it is like le tsone re le lefatshe. O ne wa supa gore ngwaga le telling a guerrilla, after staying 10 years in the forest that ngwaga mo dingwageng tse tlhano tse di fetileng, pego you should get on a suit and tie and come to Parliament e o e re bayang pele, re supa gore re dirisa madi mangwe to have a seat and face your oppressors. I am facing you a re senang one, mme re le Mapalamente re go thuse right now. Let me tell you something, behind me there are gore seemo se o ka se dira ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ke so many guerrilla fighters, they are there in Mahalapye, ntlha e tona thata e ke dumelang jalo gore... Batswana and you know what they have done, fa ba utlwa gotwe ba ne ba tlhopha Puso maloba ya ga Domkrag, e re a guerrilla of their own is here in Parliament, they laid neng re tsamaya lefatshe le re ba neela tsholofelo ya

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gore re batla go tsamaisa Puso ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Ditshekelong, ke gore re le Goromente, re ntsha madi Ke leboge rraetsho gore mo dintlheng tsa gago tse o re bo re re re ka a dirisa re bo re felela sekisiwa ke di beileng pele, ke a bona gore o tsamaelana le lone dikompone. Ke dumela gore nako e gorogile gore lenaneo la phathi e kgolo ya Domkrag. Maloba re ne jaanong dilo tse di tshwanang le bigger projects… re re tswa mo ditlhophong tse di mašhetla, tse re neng re na le dikompone tse di ikemetseng mo lefatsheng la bona dilo tse re neng re sa di akanya gore di ka diragala. rona tse di ka re thusang go tlhabolola lefatshe le, tse di Ke gakologelwa tsala ya me Rre Dithapelo Keorapetse, tshwanang le bo KPMG, First National Bank (FNB) le ke mmona a le mo sefofaneng a fiwa dijo ke lekgoa, le Stocks and Stocks. Di ka aga dipatela, rona re tswe mo apere ka fa le neng le apere ka teng. Ke dumela gore go dikgannyeng tse. ne go le thata. Batswana letsatsi leno ba ne ba tshepha gore Puso e ya gago Rre Matsheka, e nne yone e e HONOURABLE MEMBER: FNB? tsamaisang lefatshe le. MR LELATISITSWE: Yes, ga o itse gore FNB Rra, ke leboge dintlha tse o re di beileng pele e le does that as well. Rona re le Goromente, re tswe mo Ditshutiso mo budget ya gago. Se ke se lebogelang dikgannyeng tse tsa go tlhola re ntse re setsesetse thata ke gore, re le phathi ya ga Domkrag, re santse dikago morago. Dikago tse re di neele dikompone tse di re baya thuto kwa pele, gongwe le botsogo, le tse di ikemetseng, ba hire Batswana mo go tsone. Ke dumela amang Local Government. Re lebeletse thuto e e kwa gore le wena o ntse jaana, o ka dira dikompone tseo wa tlase; basic education le yone ya tertiary education. tsamaisa lefatshe ka gore go bokete gore gompieno re Di wela mo maphateng a matlhano a a tsayang madi a le Goromente, re bo re nna re ntse re nna le this public mantsi mo lefatsheng la Botswana. Se se supa jalo gore service e e botona jo bo kana. Gompieno fa o lebelela, re tlhwaafaletse go tlhabolola lefatshe le. O fitlhela go projects tsa Goromente di tsaya dingwagangwaga tse utlwisa botlhoko fa gongwe fa batho ba bua, comparing dintsi di sa fele. Gompieno re batla go aga sepatela Botswana le bo China. China kana ke mafatshe a a nang kwa Tutume kwa. Re a itse gore go ya go tsaya le dingwaga tse dintsi tse di fetang le dingwaga tsa dingwagangwaga re ntse re tshwara kwa le kwa. Re rona ba re leng gone fa, e ntse e le lefatshe. Rona re mo batla go aga sepatela kwa Letlhakeng, re tshwara kwa dingwageng tse di kwa tlase thata, mme re kgonne go le kwa. Dikgang tse fa di setse di le mo go rona, ke tswa kwa re leng teng go tsena fa re leng letsatsi leno. one mathata a e leng gore capacity kana bodiredi jo Ke lebogela madi a a kana ka 9.1 billion a o a fileng re nang le jone, go a tlhokafala gore re le Goromente, ba Thuto e e kwa Tlase. Mma ke lebagane le Tona ke re simolole go akanya go dirisa our private sector to re a madi a jaaka o ne o bua, go a tlhokafala gore re le drive these developments. Ke gone mo go ka re thusang Goromente, re ye go itshekatsheka. O ne o dirisa lefoko go fokotsa bodiredi jo bo kana jo re nang le jone. Ke la Sekgoa kgapetsakgapetsa gore ga go a tshwanela dumela gore rraetsho, dikago di ka agiwa ka bonako. gore re akanye jaaka re neng re akanya maloba. Mo Gompieno fa o utlwa ba private sector ba re ba aga mall diofising o dirisitse lefoko le o neng o re, fa motho a o o fetang kago ya sepatela, o bona fela mo sebakeng se lebala password gantsintsi, a se ka a itsholofela gore o se khutshwane mall o o fedile e bile o dirisiwa ka gore ka tsamaisa Puso ka tlhabololo kana o ka tlisa tlhabololo bone ba dirisa companies tse ke ntseng ke bua ka tsone. e e rileng mo Pusong e. Seo rraetsho re go se lebogele. Jaanong rona re tsaya nako e ntsi re re madi a isiwe kwa Re supe gore ba World Bank le bone ba supile gore Ministry of Infrastructure. Ke gore dilo tse ke tsone tse re le Goromente wa lefatshe le la Botswana, re na le di diang tlhabololo ya lefatshe. Ke dumela gore jaaka bodiredi jo bontsi jo e leng gore jaanong tse di amang o ne bua rraetsho o re go tlhokafala bold decisions, we tsa infrastructure kana ditlhabololo, di felela di tsaya need to take those bold decisions, re emise dikgang tse. madi a a kwa tlase. Rraetsho, golo fa go tlhokafala le gore re go lebelele thata re bone gore re leka to empower Gompieno dikgang tse tsa Public Procurement and our private sector gore e nne bone ba ba tsamaisang Asset Disposal Board (PPADB) re ka bo re se na natso, itsholelo ya lefatshe; re ithole ditiro ka bontsi. Dingwe ka gore re ka bo re itse fela gore jaanong ke mang yo o tsa tsone ke bona o kare santse re di tshwere re le Puso. tsamaisang projects. Ke dumela gore nako e gorogile mongwame gore re ithole ditiro tse. O buile rraetsho, jaaka le Party ya rona ya Domkrag e buile gore, re batla gore khumo ya lefatshe le e bonwe Gongwe re ka tsaya ntlha e tona e e amang tsa dikago. mo Batswaneng. Fa o tsena kwa Shakawe kana kae, Ke dumela gore fa o bona re nna re le kwa Makgotla o fitlhele Batswana e le bone ba tsamaisang bojanala.

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Mme re lebogele kakanyo e ya ga Goromente, ya gore re MR MMOLOTSI: On a point of clarification. akanye ka molao o wa citizen economic law, o ka boone Honourable Member, ke ne ke re kana selo se o se buang o tlaa neelang Batswana thata e e seng kana ka sepe… ke ipotsa gore a o dumela gore ke rocket science, ka gore tota ke tsaya gore gongwe golo mo o go buang mo HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… ke golo mo go ka bong go sa bolo go diriwa bogologolo. MR LELATISITSWE: Ga se gore ke gone ke Ke ipotsa gore a ga go tlhabise ditlhong gore mo nakong lemogang dilo tse, ke dikgang tse ke tswang kgakala ke ya gompieno e bo e le gore gone kwa e leng gore di bua, Motlotlegi Wynter Mmolotsi o a itse, o itse fela diteemane di tswa teng go go setlha go gaisa gongwe le sentle. Mme fa Goromente a tsere kgato, ke golo mo re gongwe? Ke gore go tshwana le seemo se metsi a tlaa go lebogelang. tswang mo Letsibogo Dam a raletse Mmadinare, mme ba Mmadinare ba sena metsi, metsi a feta foo. Ga go le Rraetsho ke tswa mo kgaolong e ke e buileng e e tlhabise ditlhong ne bagaetsho? bidiwang Boteti East, e ka boyone re nang le meepo e e seng kana ka sepe. Ke ne ke dumela jalo gore leina MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga Mopalamente wa la Ministry wa gago ka Sekgoa ba re ke Finance and Francistown South. Ke dumela gore nna le motlotlegi re Economic Development, mme rona mo kgaolong e ne re le mo Phathing e ya Domkrag re le barataphathi re tswang mo go yone, re ka re ke kwa economy ya mmogo, o tswa fa a ntlogela gone fa tsala ya me, nako lefatshe le e leng teng. Mme rra it is an economic hub ele ya ga Motswaledi. of economy e ya rona. Jaanong ke ne ke gakolola jalo gore nako e tlile rraetsho ya gore a re tseyeng dikgato HONOURABLE MEMBER: …(Inaudible)… tse re bonang gore fa go a tlhokafala gore re tsenye MR LELATISITSWE: Ga re a mo koba, o a itse gore o ditlhabololo, ke gore private sector e se ka ya re feta ka tsamaile ka tsela e e ntseng jang. Rraetsho mogopolo wa ditlhabololo tse re leng Goromente re tshwanetseng gore gore gongwe lefatshe le ka fa le ntseng ka teng… ke gore re di ntshe. Gompieno jaana fa o tsaya motse o tshwana le wa Letlhakane o o mo Boteti, e rile go tswalweng ke ipotsa gore fa e le mogopolo o wa gore ditswammung ga BCL le Tati Nickel Mine kwa Francistown, ra bona tsa lefatshe le di se ka tsa nna tsa lefatshe lotlhe, ke batho ba se kana ka sepe ba fudugela kwa motseng oo ipotsa gore motho a tshwana le Motlotlegi Motsamai ka dipalopalo. kwa kgaolong ya gagwe e go se nang sepe se e leng gore they produce, a le sekole ba ka bo ba na le sone HONOURABLE MEMBER: Kwa motseng ofe? tota? Motho a tshwana le Motlotlegi Kapinga go se na le MR LELATISITSWE: Wa Letlhakane rraetsho. Batho fa e le sepe se ba nang le sone kwa dikgaolong tsa bone. ba Shakawe ba tletse koo, ba ga lona. Ke rona ba re Motho a tshwana le Motlotlegi Dr Never Tshabang go tshwanetseng gore re simolole go bona gore ditlhabololo se na le fa e le sepe se e leng gore they produce, e le di ya kwa batho ba leng teng. E bile go nne le a batho ba Modimo fela, a fa mogopolo o o ne o le teng deliberate move ya gore fa go tshwanang le fa re bona dilo tse di ka bo di dirilwe? Rraetsho ke dumela gore re gore we can develop it, gore ditswammung tse di tswang le batho ba Boteti, re tshwere lefatshe le la Botswana, mo dikgaolong tse di atolose itsholelo mo kgaolong eo, mme ke dumela gore jaanong ke nako ya gore le rona re re dire jalo ka go tlisa ditlamelo, tse di tshwanang le go nne le dipoelo tseo. aga dipatela jalo. Ka gore gompieno fa o tsaya sepatela Rraetsho ke leboga thata ke lebile lenaneo la gago le o se se sa bolong go agiwa ke ise ke tsholwe, ga se sa neng o le re baya pele, e le gore le mo ... tlhole se kgona go amogela bokete jwa batho ba ba leng koo. Fa o tsaya internal roads, investors fa ba tlile kwa, MR MAJAGA: Elucidation Mr Speaker. Ke a leboga jaaka re na le bo Karowe le , batho ba fa ba goroga Honourable Member of Parliament for Boteti, o e kwa ka bontsi ba lebelela the state of infrastructure mo tshwere sentle. Ke ne ke re mme ka fa o buang ka teng, motseng, ba bangwe ba a boa. Ke dumela gore that is ga o bone go ka tloga jaanong ga tsosa ketsaetsego, gore an area e re ka bong re akanya gore infrastructure is jaaka yo o tshwanang le nna letswai le tletse le Bojanala, developed fela thata to empower Batswana, ba fudugele mme ke se na ditsela, le nna ke re di ye go dirwa koo koo jaaka ba ntse ba fuduga, re bona Bobirwa otlhe, jaaka ke lwala jaana, ka gore ke utlwa o bua gore o Selebi Phikwe otlhe, jaanong batho ba bo Honourable lejwe, ke dumela, ka gore diteemane tsotlhe ka bokima Nkawana ba koo. Re supe dilo tse, re bone, re itse gore di tswa kwa go wena, gore le nna ke tloge ke re heela! di ka godisa itsholelo go le kae. matswai otlhe a a yang kwa Central Africa.

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HONOURABLE MEMBERS: …(Laughter!)…

MR LELATISITSWE: Ke a leboga mokaulengwe. Nna ke bua se ke se buang, ke lebeletse dipalo tsa batho ba ba leng koo, ba ba ka tlisang kgolo…

HONOURABLE MEMBER: Wa re Nata ga go na batho?

HONOURABLE MEMBERS:…(Laughter!)…

MR LELATISITSWE: Dipalo tse di kwa motseng wa Letlhakane, ga go na ope yo o sa itseng yo e leng gore gongwe o a bala, gore motse wa Letlhakane o lekana le wa Ramotswa ka dipalo mo lefatsheng la Botswana. E bile dipalo tseo di a oketsega, ke bua tsa maloba. Pharologanyo ke ya infrastructure. Mme kana infrastructure e rraetsho ga se gore re e dirile gore e nne jalo, e dirilwe ke seemo se re iphitlhelang re le mo go sone. Sengwe sa tsone e le ntlha e o buileng ka yone ya gore ke maikaelelo a ministry gore jaanong re ye go lebelela mo gotweng go atametsa ditlamelo kwa bathong, decentralisation. Re dumela gore golo mo go tla godisa itsholelo thata. Mme rra re gakolole gore kana kwa re tswang teng kwa Boteti, re tswa mo Central District, kgaolo e e nang le Mapalamente ....

MOTION

ADJOURNMENT

LEADER OF THE HOUSE (MR TSOGWANE): Ke kopa gore re tle re ye go ikhutsa. Bagolo ba batla go ikhutsa, re na le bagolo mo Palamenteng.

Question put and agreed to.

The Assembly accordingly adjourned at 6:00 p.m. until Friday 7th February, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.

36 Hansard No 196 HANSARD RECORDERS Mr. T. Gaodumelwe, Mr T. Monakwe, Ms T. Kebonang HANSARD REPORTERS Mr M. Buti, Ms Z. Molemi, Mr J. Samunzala, Ms N. Selebogo, Ms A. Ramadi, Ms D. Thibedi, Ms G. Baotsi, Ms N. Mokoka

HANSARD EDITORS Ms K. Nyanga, Ms C. Chonga, Mr K. Goeme, Ms G. Phatedi, Ms B. Malokwane, Mr A. Mokopakgosi, Ms O. Nkatswe, Ms G. Lekopanye, Ms T. Mokhure, Ms B. Ratshipa, Ms M. Madubeko

LAYOUT DESIGNERS Mr B. B. Khumanego, Mr D. T. Batshegi, Mr K. Rebaisakae

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