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Environmental Quality Commission Minutes for Public Meeting August 22, 2002 Clean Water Act At 30 Room 125, Capitol Annex, Frankfort EQC Commissioners and Staff Present Speakers/Representatives Present Aloma Dew, Chair Jeff Pratt, Director, Division of Water Betsy Bennett, Vice-Chair Alan Vicory, Director, Ohio River Valley Water Sanitation Bob Riddle Commission (ORSANCO) Gary Revlett Hank Graddy, Sierra Club Patty Wallace Lloyd Cress, Kentucky Chamber of Commerce Staff Judi Petersen, Kentucky Waterways Alliance Leslie Cole, Director Jim Villines, Dept for Surface Mining Erik Siegel, Assistant Director Carl Millanti, Division of Air Quality Lola Lyle, Research Analyst Frances Kirchhoff, Administrative Assistant Commissioners not attending Serena Williams Jean Dorton Open Meeting Environmental Quality Commission (EQC) Chair, Aloma Dew, opened the meeting at 1:00 p.m. Approximately 20 people were present. Minutes were approved for the May 30, May 31 and July 30 meetings. It was moved by Betsy Bennett and seconded Patty Wallace to approve the minutes for May 30. It was moved by Betsy Bennett and seconded Bob Riddle to approve the minutes for May 31. It was moved by Patty Wallace and seconded Bob Riddle to approve the minutes for July 30. All minutes were unanimously approved and passed. Clean Water Act: Opening Remarks The focus of the Aug. 22 EQC public meeting was to discuss the future of clean water in Kentucky in recognition of the 30th anniversary of the Clean Water Act. One of the most significant environmental laws in Kentucky is the Clean Water Act, according to EQC Chair Aloma Dew. Ms. Dew stated that 30 years ago, waterways in Kentucky were in crisis. Some 72 percent of Kentucky’s monitored waterways were polluted to the point that they could not be used fully for swimming, fishing or drinking. The Clean Water Act announced a national mission to “restore and maintain the chemical, physical, and biological integrity of the nation’s water.” The new law set some important goals--zero discharge of pollutants into navigable waterways by 1985, and waters fishable and swimmable by 1983. As a result the percent of monitored waterways in Kentucky impaired by pollution dropped from 72 percent in 1972 to 34 percent in 1999. But problems still remain. Dew noted that a recent listing of impaired waters in Kentucky included 949 waterways that have exceeded pollution limits. And fish consumption advisories are currently in effect for all waterways in the Commonwealth. EQC has invited state, industry, and environmental leaders to review the accomplishments made under the Clean Water Act as well as the challenges that remain. Clean Water Act: Division of Water Perspective The first speaker was Jeff Pratt, Director of the Division of Water. Mr. Pratt highlighted some of what the Division of Water has been doing to protect the water resources of Kentucky since the passage of the Clean Water Act. 1 C Funding and construction of wastewater facilities. Kentucky has awarded nearly $1.1 billion for 319 projects. These projects have resulted in the elimination of almost 100 package treatment plants—41 on the Big Sandy alone. C Kentucky Pollution and Discharge Elimination System (KPDES). This Division of Water began issuing KPDES permits in 1983 and has permitted 242 municipal facilities and more than 8,700 industrial facilities which includes approximately 4,800 coal mining general permit, 3,000 storm water permits, and 1,400 private and commercial permits. C Non-point source pollution. Since 1990, $32.5 million has been awarded to fund 243 nonpoint projects. Projects include Mammoth Cave area and Triplett Creek. Other non-point source projects include the Kentucky Agriculture Water Quality Act, and storm water management. C Wetlands. Wetlands at one time were considered a nuisance and a breeding ground for mosquitoes. They are now valued for their role for aquatic habitat and the ecosystem and their role in water quality. The Corp of Engineers issued the No Net Loss policy and USDA has the Wetland Reserve program. In a 22-year period, we have seen a small net gain in wetlands. C Designation of outstanding state resource waters. Currently Kentucky has 118 resource waters including wild rivers, underground river systems, lakes, and streams that contain federal and endangered species. Mr. Pratt next reviewed the challenges to protect Kentucky’s water. C Wastewater infrastructure. In 2000, for new sewers alone, $1.3 billion is needed. For wastewater treatment upgrades, $755 million, for sewer rehabilitation, $473 million for a total of $2.79 billion estimated needed for 2000. C Elimination of straight pipes. More than 635 straight pipes have been investigated and 492 notices of violation have been issued. In the 38 county Eastern Kentucky PRIDE area; there are more than 36,000 straight pipes. These counties are not conducive to traditional wastewater septic systems. Alternatives must be found. Time and energy has been put forward to eliminate package plants in the sate, but in some parts of the state, package plants might be a solution to eliminate straight pipes. C Total Maximum Daily Loads (TMDL). In the 2002 303(d) list contains 949 water bodies not fully supporting use. A significant increase from 1998 with 372 water bodies. Work must be done to reduce this number. C Watershed Management initiative. Water bodies were broken up into basins. Problems are approached by watershed basins allowing the Division of Water to focus their limited resources. This approach increases stakeholder involvement and other agencies. One advantage in the watershed management approach is TMDL development. Each watershed basin is tied to a schedule, which allows the flow of data to monitor progress, to develop TMDLs, and implement actions to address pollution problems. C Non-point source pollution. An estimated 2/3 of the impaired waters are from non-point sources. These sources typically are those that are not regulated. A lot of the projects in the non-point source programs are designed to increase public education and awareness. C Tri-annual review process for the water quality standards. This review of water quality standards will begin this fall. The Division of Water will look at the anti-degradation provision that the U.S. EPA has found deficient in Kentucky’s current regulations. The Division will propose: (1) to add 113 new exceptional waters and reference reach streams; (2) propose e-coli as a criteria for protection of recreational use; (3) propose to add methyl-mercury as criteria to protect public health for fish consumption; (4) propose to lower arsenic criteria for domestic water supply and (5) add several new streams to the list of outstanding state resource waters. Mr. Pratt closed by stating that Kentucky has come a long way in protecting its water, but it still has a long way to go. 2 Questions and Answers Q. In 1998, 300 streams were listed as impaired and in 2002, 900 streams were listed. What was the main reason for this change? A. The main reason is more awareness and more focus on assessments and monitoring of watershed basins. Q. You mentioned that 2/3 of impaired streams are from a nonpoint source pollution. Agriculture is one source but what are other non-point source pollutants? A. Agriculture operations is one, others would be straight pipes, failed septic systems, and land disturbances such as mining and highway construction. Q. How does the Division of Water plan to take on this task of non-point source pollution? A. Additional staff has been approved but with the current budget constraints this is still a challenge. Q. What do you see as the stakeholders’ roles? A. In the area of non-point source pollution for example, the role could be as an active participant with state agencies in the watershed basin program. Q. What percentage of the 949 impaired waterways is the violation for fecal coliform only? A. I have no exact quote, but I think it is a significant portion. Q. Isn’t non-point source pollution the most difficult to solve? It seems to be a monumental task. How are we going to come up with the money for that? A. Failed septic systems and straight pipes are a challenge. Congressman Hal Rogers has come up with a significant amount of funding through the PRIDE program. Is it enough—we don’t know, but it is one source of funding to help. Q. Do you plan to accommodate “X” number of people in “X” amount of time? A. We are just beginning to do that kind of planning and integrate that in the watershed basin approach. Q. Do you get any kind of support or help from County Health Departments in regard to straight pipes? A. Some counties are helpful and some are not. They are stakeholders and we want them to be involved. Q. Are straight pipes a Division of Water problem or a County Health Department problem? A. It is a Division of Water problem if the water from the pipe is polluting a waterway. Q. What is the state’s position on valley fills? Does it consider the practice as breaking the Clean Water Act? A. This is a federal issue and it is in federal court. We will comply with their decision under the 404 and 401 Water Quality Certification. Q. What about the water impacts of proposed power plants? A. Things are in place for water quality, but the bigger issue may be with the water quantity and water supply issues associated with power plants. Q. The Kentucky Post had an article stating the 1998 figure and the 2002 figure of impaired waterways. The 2002 figure is more than twice as many as 1998.