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SENATE OF PAKISTAN SENATE DEBATES Monday, March 10, 2014

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agreements with the Government of Pakistan in favour of the international partners and international organizations rather than the State of Pakistan itself. Furthermore, Mr. Chairman, it also leads to brain drain. These civil servants because they donãt resign from service and are simply on leave, in the meanwhile they block those positions, no other person can be recruited on those positions and the best and the brightest from the civil service go to other organizations resulting in what we call a brain drain. The Government, as you know, also spends a lot of money, time and resources developing the capacity of the civil servants training them at the Civil Services Academy, at the National School of Public Policy. So, it is a loss for Pakistan in many ways. This Bill, therefore, seeks to ensure that this practice of outsourcing Pakistani Civil Servants to international organizations shall cease and that they serve the State of Pakistan only in their official capacity. That is the purpose, object and reasons of the Bill. I thank you. Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you Senator Sughra Imam. It has been moved that the Bill further to amend the Civil Servants Act 1973 [The Civil Servants (Amendment) Bill, 2014] as reported by the Standing Committee, be taken into consideration at once. (The motion was carried.)

Mr. Presiding Officer: The Motion is carried unanimously. Second Reading of the Bill; we may now take up reading of the Bill, clause by clause consideration of the Bill. There is no amendment in it. So, the question is that Clause 2 do form part of the Bill? (The motion was carried.)

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Mr. Presiding Officer: Clause 2 stands part of the Bill. We may now take up Clause 1, the Preamble and the Title of the Bill. The question is that Clause 1, the Preamble and the Title do stand part of the Bill? (The motion was carried.)

Mr. Presiding Officer: Clause 1, the Preamble and the Title stand part of the Bill. Syed Sughra Imam may move item No.5. Senator Syeda Sughra Imam: Thank you, Mr. Chairman, I beg to move that the Bill further to amend the Civil Servants Act, 1973 [The Civil Servants (Amendment) Bill, 2014] be passed. Mr. Presiding Officer: It has been moved that the Bill further to amend the Civil Servants Act, 1973 [The Civil Servants (Amendment) Bill, 2014] be passed. (The motion was carried.)

Mr. Presiding Officer: The motion is carried and the Bill stands passed unanimously. Now, we move to item No.6 in the name of Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi, as the custom and tradition of Parliament, I defer this item because it deals with myself. So, items No.6, 7, 8 and 9 are all my business so all these items are deferred. Now, we move to item No.10 regarding consideration of the following resolution moved by Syeda Sughra Imam on 13 th January, 2014:- Resolution åThe House calls upon the Government to include all water disputes of Pakistan with India in the

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Composite Dialogue or in any other talks or dialogue process that is revived or initiated with India.ç Do we have a Minister or Advisor present on this topic? This is item No.10 because I have deferred the other items because they were my own. Now anybody who would like to speak, of course, the mover can and the Minister concerned can speak on the resolution. Other members will be allowed to speak but they can not speak for more than 15 minutes. That is how we will deal with this Rule 141. Who would like to speak? Senator Syeda Sughra Imam sahiba . Senator Syeda Sughra Imam: Senator Haji Adeel sahib if likes to initiate and I can follow him. Mr. Presiding Officer: Would you like to initiate this? Haji Adeel sahib. 2 W H 2 U H JK z SP ƒ 1 d J v 6<\I3 C6C<6À8<0 f 0 \ ~ 65F 6a=:656>S G •L ^6> v 6p 0 v ! p<0 P ‘ 67bI ©\I 6˘-I f .•X 6:ª[6[If • / i 6A<0 h 6b ©\I I\ H H z d xj\3 ‰ F 2 2 J jJ0f Nn 1 d 6>F 6B:6È5l 6> lGO:96> .6AFI 6-V >@ 6A 6• 6a9]65f0P 6u=:689:670 I y Q 6> e • 6.6AS 3F3 .6AS :6†.6D:6a=:60 I f S q;5 QO H d 2 H H 2 3N iƒ J y H 6>F‰ 6B:6a=:6-SSV <6>f 67.6;6@ OeG 6[I\~ :6>° 6q7Q 6> 5QO 6DI f C. 3 6`Cv 6a<:986AIIf« S 689:6;5QO 6DC.6`C<8I f 3 f 2 j”´· R d H J z SP H 6p6-00P V 6>@O 6A 6[6†8<0 f /QR 6q6>@ O 6resolution 6tQ :6†.03 6resolution 6-I f ! 7I K b©\I 6a<0 \0P 2 22 2 H H Æ\v UkU JK HH2 2 H U G U H H 2 689:6a<0 \SP3 6˘†9:866˘_e 6> ‹ ° 67I 6;< \f\ ¿vF e 6>•¿ :6<8C6¦<689:6GG 56>QOF· .6a:bF 0 I ©X 656;5]6Ê • •\Y 6> F 6;<\v 9[\OQ 689:6> e‹v 6>•Ø G 6> 6-I \ l < / QR 65689:6t 0 P H d 2 2 J\03 Z l U F 6³8•‹ 6> F 6 Water Treaty 6D:6.6_:6q>I f S3 e 6> G =:6•c6•Ä 6 Pakistan 2 H H U 2 H U 2 68<6•K«ghF 6;:689:6v 6•cÄ 6• F 6;< \ v 9[\ OQ 689:6An0 6>v 6•cÄ 6•F 6;S ‰ e 6b0 ©/ 6> F 6AI 6_:6A0 6p0 P < ‘ 6aG 56AQ O0 6> v 6_:6a<< »±X • f :6³8< 6pk0 U 6567.6- G I F ˆ l < }g~ 6<

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among the most important challenges and issues for Pakistan today. In the comity of nations, Mr. Chairman, Pakistan is the 31 st most stressed country in terms of water. We are more water stressed country than Afghanistan, than India, than all other South Asian countries and as our population goes with our demographics growing in the way that they are, we will be expected to feed over 250 million people in the next 2 to 3 decades in order to do that we will have to manage and harness our water resources in the best possible way. Of course, Internal Water Management will be key for this but so will be the water sharing arrangements that we have with our eastern neighbours. Haji Adeel sahib has gone into the history and the context of the Indus Waters Treaty, I will not repeat that but because the Indus Waters Treaty is the instrument that governs the way that India and Pakistan share water, it is of extreme importance that India must not violate any aspect of that treaty. Mr. Chairman! What we did find in the last two decades most specially this has been happening repeatedly. One of the basic issue of that treaty which has lead to these repeated violations is that India under that treaty was given the right to build hydro power projects on the western rivers. However, they could only do so once they had shared the designs and plans of those dams with Pakistan. This is something that they have not been doing and repeatedly violating. The Kishanganga Hydroelectric Power Project is one such example, whereby the Government of Pakistan took the case to the International Court of Arbitration because as a consequence of that dam being built 14% of the flow of water of the Neelum Jhelum river will be reduced for Pakistanãs Neelum Jhelum Hydroelectric Power Project. One of the reason sir, that we had to go to the ICA was because the Government was slow in responding to the Indian

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design. We did not start objecting on the dam till such time as construction had started. Even today, one is told that veritable caravan of dams is being conceived, build and planned by the Indian side and Pakistan must, should and can take this up at a timely opportunity with India whenever and whatever juncture through whichever instrument of discussion, negotiations or talks it undertakes. Mr. Chairman! If we neglect to do so, the situation for Pakistan will become extremely serious. One of the key issues that will emerge as a consequence of these dams being built is that the timing of water being released into Pakistan will be entirely controlled by our eastern neighbour. That of course is a very serious instrument of influence that they will have because as I was mentioning our demography growing in the way that it is, Pakistanãs food security will be largely dependent on when that water comes into Pakistan. If that water comes into Pakistan and the timing of that water will be critical for Pakistanãs agriculture. Pakistanãs agriculture in turn will be critical for Pakistanãs food security. I have brought this resolution to call upon the Government to include water. Water being the most serious challenge and the biggest issue in the coming years rather decades between India and Pakistan. If we do not start including it in the whatever discussion, dialogue process we do initiate with them, it can lead through potential conflicts in the future, which we would like to avert and avoid. As we know, we have been reading in the press that the Government, the back channel negotiations for instance with the Indian side lead by the honorable special Envoy Mian Shehryar, I have very much hope that water is on the agenda of that back channel discussion. Similarly, Mr. Khurrum Dastagir, the honourable Commerce Minister has been in discussion with the Indian side on trade. When we talk about trade with India, one of the key sectors

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that we will be opening up is agriculture and again water will be a key source of that but I see no mention, I see no discussion of it. Even though under the World Trade Organization studies have now started emerging whereby WTO countries are discussing water as a tradable item and this is something that Pakistan must start considering and including in any discussion and dialogue process that it initiates or revives. Currently, as I say, I do not see in the press the honourable Advisor on Foreign Affairs has not come to the Senate to take into confidence on the back channel discussion. The Commerce Minister has not discussed with the Parliament the details of the trade negotiations underway. So, I have very much hope that the Government will take this resolution and include the water issue in all discussions with the Indian side. Thank you. Mr. Presiding Officer: We have honourable Leader of the House and some honourable ministers also. They will definitely take note. Honourable Leader of the House. The Statement in Support of the Resolution J = Y J 2 = Y 8 [ > = > E FG = 0 8 ; > ? ),T )OP)BD)Q)PUVH Z WGX / )R P )L< M )P)S(< H ! L< M . 45< )AB9 59G )C,D< H IK ):'/ ()*13 )+67 ),9: (-). 45< <5 >M Y Z d >` )frame )L< )Aa)B<5c )b )RU )A\())F Rules of Business -]()L< U )^_V -)D Z preside )P ZHouse )A\(F = Y J J E ; > ? Y 8 > j kl Z e = > ),9 5G Bn ).45< <5 ),. m 4o )P 9G issue ),< H CL < `U ^X B)*)h)P)RM i Z 9 )b)+M\(-a)g6 ))DFf )O()A\()-]()LF < `U )^X )P UV = E E = kl w Z Z= Y >` > u l t d Y ; )R9 )R )C ^_V )life line ),)b< H )OB5WZ B),F H T )LM t = Y Y >l = I 68 x [ > )CP),).UV H y< ))bBP)FH ZOB5WZ BF H ),)S)s)^_T H 9 9G V )L< u )L )bBo P G)-]( development L< M ) sector Y = = Y Y >` 9 •>M t = I5x > ` ; | >M X d )L< U )^X \()B-a)^ t k†‡ k l Y ‰X Y l )^Z )Q()P)XPUV)€(.4„ ()P)'*)R ZM ),)s)^< H99G •u •), n *)Že F / ),)^_ T V )AB)b)R9H +)C^_9 H V procedure available )S()R< H 9 )L< )Œ-B9H = Y E = = E Y nt ‘f > M d t >ul …= E = t ; )g B)bB:5}9 < ‹ B)R ()L< ),B”M Š ‹ )Q( )r U )-]()b P UV)L< )b+5f B65l )sB 9 ? ‹ )bP)^Z? )“*)‚-B3 6pŠd U )P)B X l (),B”M ‹ Y = YY= > l > l water issue composite ),),)OP)B

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this resolution. The honourable Leader of the House has already spoken. Mr. Shahid Khaqan Abassi: The Leader of the House has already spoken. Mr. Presiding Officer: Yes, he has already spoken but if you would like to speak, you are most welcome. Mr. Shahid Khaqan Abassi: No sir, I endorse his view point. Mr. Presiding Officer: Right, thank you very much. Now, I put the resolution before the House under Rule 143, it has been moved that the House calls upon the Government to include all water disputes of Pakistan with India in the composite dialogue or in any other talks for dialogue process that is revived or initiated with India. (The resolution was adopted unanimously) Mr. Presiding Officer: Now, we may take up Item No.11 regarding further consideration of the following resolution moved by Mr. Karim Ahmad Khawaja on 3 rd February, 2014:- åThis House recommends that the Charter of Democracy between Mohterma Benazir Shaheed and Mian Muhammad Nawaz Shareef be implemented especially Constitutional Court with equal number of Judges from all provinces may be established to decide the constitutional matters.ç Further consideration of the resolution moved by Mr. Karim Ahmad Khawaja on 3 rd February, 2014, the Leader of the Opposition had approached us and he has proposed to defer the consideration of the resolution to enable the Government and the Leader of the House to discuss the subject matter of the resolution

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like to be present, this is why he has requested for deferment of this. We have a detailed discussion on this, I would love to have a discussion on this, we will Insha-Allah have it when we will take up the matter next, it is deferred. Yes, Haji Adeel sahib. H H H U 2 H z H ƒ d v 6@O 67IJL 6C5 0P 56•] ~ \P :6a.0P 6[<6a@O 6r:b©¸ : 2 2 z z H H Kd H •\l J y nU R j ‰ ’’H JÏIG 6.6ª6;G .6 F support 656_:6AF 0 6t6-Q V 6>@O 6A 6•:.6•I f v 6…<0 3 0 h H 2 2 d d 2 z H U jJ0f th jJ0f 6-V 6>@O 6<[• \v :6AN 6A j 3 :6> v 6a=:S ! 7bH IIIJK©\I SP 6a<0 \0P 6q7 J « 6An I 676 J K 18 Amendment 6>¿ •J °h 67 I J « I z d 3 JfH jJ/Z J K l O 2 H J / QR 67.6-IIIF }0G :8689:6>‰ 67 <\03 6AI 67 6`<69C6<6D:6>• KfI I f ‹F• 6> 6>K < ˆ~ 6_:6a=:6-S V 6>•@ ‹v 6;:67 I H z z J d v H H 3 ’ 2 ZH Z 67I K 6p I‹JI\ 689:6>G <0h 68.‰ 6²< X 6-6-IIfV 656-6-6QO ff ˘7I .F 6commitment 6•5F 6>•‹l 6> F 6…966t68:6t6-6“ I fq>‰ z z H nU 2 2 2 J U 6.6_:689:6>@SS3O 6A0 6€<¶G :6.6_:q5 3 QO 6 pending 66-¨K <ˆ~ 6-I f 6Df 6 6…“ 96_:689:67I f =:6È5l 6>‹3 6[ËI‹§ 6_F 6ÊbI G ½ 68:56;< G I \‘~ 689:66-0 \P < 6[I \ k N©} 6bI 6>° G 6-b µ ©‚ HH H 2 d 2 j3 j 3 2 x K J J 3 3 6ASS :6A :6`96-V <6<6566ªf M QO / 67I K 6> Ëc6>o V 6-}0G :86-6˘>I f ‰ 67.6-I F } 0 G :86> v 6;5I ‹ 3 8<6r

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Senator and Senator Farhartullah Babar. Senator Afrasiab Khattak sahib, please move the resolution. Resolution: Workable Plan for FATA Senator Afrasiab Khattak: Thank you Mr. Chairman, with your permission I want to move the following resolution:- åThis House calls upon the Government to prepare and make public a workable plan for FATA to clean it of militant networks, provide compensation to the victims of militancy, relief or rehabilitation of IDPs and a massive programme for the socio-economic uplift of the people of the area.ç Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you Khattak sahib . It has been moved that this House calls upon the Government to prepare and make public a workable plan for FATA to clean it of militant networks, provide compensation to the victims of militancy, relief or rehabilitation of IDPs and a massive programme for the socio- economic uplift of the people. Would you like to start the debate? H H H 1 d d J\v qa<0 \0P 6A 0 : D\P 6a<0 I\v :câ :6b ©\I I W H W H H J z SP H 2 jv q>@O 6_8:.‰ 6DI f :6†b I ©µ ! 7I K b©\I 6a<0 \0P 6:[/1 :6a<0 \§ =:6¦ I Mr. Presiding Officer: Yes, please. H H W J 2 H J z P H 2 jv 6_:6>G 67I K 689:6>@ O 6 important issue 6pk0U 6-I f ! 7I K b©\I S 6a<0 \0P 6 :[/1 :6a<0 \§ =:6¦ I H H 6q7 IJyQ 67IJ L U 6C556C56 0P ~ P concerned Minister 6 u=:60 6 -V 6 >@O 6 •F 6 already request >•‹l 6 >F H 2 ’ 2 JH • \l 6>•‹ @O @O 6C5 0 P~GP 5656a:50 0 6_<6³bS f I ©µ d z z H 67IIJK 6>•‹l 6_:6q7 J yQ 6important 6³.6`96˘703 IJyQ 6>‹‰ 6> ‹ F 6points raise 656>0P F 6FATA 67IJK 6_:6-¬f 5 I‹F 2 z H F I will be grateful.6656>G G <0h 6@O 6• 6request 6> G Mr. Presiding Officer: This is very interesting that I have in writing request from the Ministry of Interior also that the Minister is unable to attend the House today. So, I am not impressed with

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this request because the Parliament is supreme and whatever work anybody in Pakistan has that becomes secondary once the Parliament is involved. The honour, dignity and prestige of the Parliament must remain supreme and that is only way the democracy can function. However, the honourable Mover, what would you like to say. H d H 0 H H JK z SP H d J\v 6u=:6-¬f 5I‹F 6I totally agree with you ! 7I b©\I 6a<0 \0P 6:D\P 6a<0 I\v :câ :6b ©\I I H H H 2 ƒ d v J U nU Æ”N ƒ 6u=:60 Item 6<6.896rbgI3 ©‚ 6q>@O 6<8656_]:6<6pQQ ygQhO0I‹JI\ 6•b689:6>@ º O 6<86567 y QO I L 6A0 6_]:6 0 h •@‹O <6<56C5S hf OP~F 0 5656p0 P < ‘« 6.89656@O 6<8656Q y O prorogue 6_]0h :6[ˆ0G 6>F 6_:689:6>@ O 6;C6@ O 2 H 2 2 W H d R U 2 R I have 6567GIJQyg 6>‹•X 6„6ÊbI G êG 6ª6p0 P <‘ 6.896.:6˘>I3 ‰ ‰ 6;56³cQQ O eZ 6.6;@ O 67IIJ L/ 6< \ S3 67 J Q no problem to have it tomorrow. Mr. Presiding Officer: Because it is a coming comment, it will automatically come tomorrow, that is part of the rules. Your point is well taken but the important point which I see is that the Minister should be here because it is a matter of utmost national importance. I must appreciate the spirit with which this resolution is moved. It is something that is a burning issue of Pakistan today, it required immediate attention which is no doubt about it. Under rules it comes on the agenda tomorrow. Anyway, I can request the honourable Leader of the House to ensure the presence of the Minister tomorrow so that this can be taken up. I think you are absolutely right; it will serve no useful purpose without the Minister being here, if we take this matter up. Honouarble Leader of the House, I know itãs very difficult to guarantee somebodyãs presence but attempt could be made. Senator Raja Muhammad Zafarul Haq: I will try that he participates tomorrow.

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Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you. So, it is deferred for tomorrow. Item No. 13. Mrs. Sehar Kamran. Please move the resolution. Resolution: Vocational Training P 1 G Senator Sehar Kamran: qtIj .:67lH ” .:6B:6t l ´ 0 Mr. Chairman, with your kind permission I would like to move the following resolution. åThe House recommends that the Government should make necessary arrangements for vocational training of the prisoners in Pakistani jails and educational facilities for children in those jails.ç Mr. Presiding Officer: Senator Sehar Kamran has moved. åThe House recommends that the Government should make necessary arrangements for vocational training of the prisoners in Pakistani jails and educational facilities for children in those jails.ç Any objection on this resolution? H W H H J z P H 2 jv 6< gjails 6-¬f 5I‹F 6>@O totally provincial matter 6-I f ! 7I K b©\I S 6a<0 \0P 6:[/1 :6a<0 \§ =:6¦ I Þ 2 z 2 H •\l 2 jY Øl J y R 2 ’ • G provincial 6-67IIfI 6>@O 6a<6¦0fI 6ª<6-6- 0 f f V 67I Q 6> G . Fsupport 6tq>@QO 6> v 6;5‹~ 5 • h 6•<50f à 6s ˆ H H z 2 d U R H ‰ Jf H U n0U 6>F .F 6 recommend 6. S3behalf >F 6p‹” 856t656;:6•‰Q F 67I =:66.9@S 3 O matter 3 je0U q>‰ 67C6¦I 0 I 65 Fprovinces Mr. Presiding Officer: Senator Sehar Kamran, the honourbale Minister is absolutely right that the jails and education which you are dealing with and the prisoners, they are all provincial subjects. The purpose that can be served is of course we can recommend as a recommendatory resolution you can move it and it can be passed on to the provinces. The actual and implementation will have to be done by the province. Would you like to speak on this resolution?

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2 2 H H H H H z H H z H z eZ P jkSU 2 j3 ZZRxf JLU U 2 H ’ R n U J f 6>‹ 86s656<6>G g G QQQe •C67II 6¦<0 \3 6`:5P 6c<6•56>Ä h F G 6t6A0 6> F 6_:6˘7 5 O W z H 3 R H¿P ’2 2 F l J y q-I f .•X 6q7I C6recommendation 6tQ 6-V 6>@O 67 :6• •S ‹ 6_:6q7 I Q H H 2 d J\v J» H d z H qp<0 P‘ 6.<6B:6pc6b030 f P â ©\I I 6:bêI =:6ñ[f II\3 :[.6a< f S 3 0 \0P Senator Farhatullah Babar: Thank you, Mr. Chairman! First of all, I congratulate you on being the Presiding Officer of today's session, most well deserved and this is demonstrated by the fact that a large number of items on the agenda today, have been disposed of under your presiding-ship. WWH H 2 JSSfH N d J\v JK J f H JK z SP H 6q;5QO 6S G .6? I 6C:C8:c6- “ I f ! 7I b©\I 6a<0 \0P 2HHëHH z 2 ë z ’JLUH ´IIG ’’ J L U 2 ´ G ’ iƒ H 2 ÌP 6•=:67II 6cïG 6bI ©S¸ 6A :6•56<6•=:67 FIf 6c ï G 6p° F e 68[:6>f F 6C:C8:c6_ “ :6-V 6>@ O 6-I f 6p ß I‹ H HHH H z 2 dv2 J 2 d v 6b689:6>@Q y O 6`[\3 @IIf O 6<8.6pQ yF • h :[67 K IK 6a] F 6;55 0 Gà 6p ‹ J \ 6-6- f V 2 ë W H d HHd H z H 6F 6.:.6>0 3 0 3 v 6>° G 5 à H z 2 2 H 2 JU ’ xh J RJ 2 R 2 6<.67fFIIL 6†8<6•56t0 h F 6˘7 yQ 6>G .6 F recommend 6t6˘7QQI yQ 6>G .6pF v :5P 8C6t6-V 6>@ O 6<\kZ 6-6˘>@I f O 2 xh H ˘>@O 6<\•X 56†8<6tQO 0 h 6> v 6;< L IU 6-689:f we are just simply recommending to all the provincial governments to give a serious thought to provide for the vocational training and to provide for the welfare of the children in jails. zz z H H n0UJy j‰’d jn F 0 U U 3 ´ IG d v H JK z SP H 6<6a=:6AgS 6u=:6˘70II Q 6A 6•< «U :68<6A0 f 6A 6>•L ^678:9=:6A :6> v 6pI‹JI\ 6_: ! 7I b©\I 6a<0 \0P d H H z GH ’ JK P 6˘>@O 6 F 6.896•<5I3 0 f à 6D:67I f I 6?0 6>@ O 6calling attention notice 6DI f : H H H 2 2 H 2 H U 2 H U R H 6_:6q7IIIJyQ 6>•‹‹F‹3 C6a5C6>•Û l 6> 6> l 5 eFZ 6bC656;<©»H \l <676:5 ÷ J K Y‹ 5YS b0 ©\I P 6t6-6>@Q V OG 6< L Z 6> 6;5 k U :67 J K6? 0P z H 0 ’ H JLU ~ 6•<50fÃG 6˘;:5:6-6-I IIf V 6<567 MQ OI 6-6p f 0 • } 6<6_:6q>@ g\fO 6@ â ‰O 6<8.6p F • h :[67K I 6a]K< ˆ ~ HH dvd l F d v U H ˚<56•‹ 6?6p ‹ J I\ 6-6cI f e S ! a<0 \0P So I think there is really no harm in moving this resolution and I am confident if the honourable Leader of the House gives it a

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dispassionate thought, there is absolutely no harm in the Senate recommending to, let us say the wording could be: "This House recommends to all governments in the provinces that they should give a serious thought to provide for the vocational training of the prisoners in jails and education facilities for children in those jails." Mr. Chairman! supposing today, this resolution is rejected, now what message will go outside? The message outside will be that the Senate gave a thought to provision of facilities to women and children in jails, the Senate felt like that but then the Senate decided not to recommend to the provincial governments. H z H z H z “ 2 d vH F H ´· d 6`96˘>@O 6`[\3 Mh\ G <656<0 F I 3 C6•6b<6r

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see no reason that we should reject the thing unless of course, the House rejects it. That is your domain whether accept or reject it but I suggest that I put the resolution before the House that: "The Senate of Pakistan urges upon the Federal Government to recommend to the provincial governments to give serious thought and make necessary arrangements for vocational training of the prisoners in Pakistani jails and education facilities for children in those jails." If any of the honourable Ministers has any objection to this? We can move it further and then the House can either accept it or reject it. I think this will cover the situation. It is actually dealing with provincial matter. We will recommend and it is just a recommendation. d H z H W R U H ’ 2 ƒ H 2 jv 6>v :6tQ 6˘>@ O 6D I \e ! a<0 \0P :( 85:6•<~/Ijl 8<6>S f G :.6p03• ¨ / 6ù.89I 3 ) [/1 :6a<0 \§ =:6¦ I 2 H q>G .F 67IJLU 6oppose Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you. I now put the amended resolution before the House. (The resolution was adopted unanimously)

Mr. Presiding Officer: I must thank the honourable Leader of the House and the party in power for supporting this resolution. The agenda item at S.No.14 and 16 are in my name, so I will defer them because I don't want to take up my matter today. Yes, Rajwana sahib .

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Senator Malik Muhammad Rafique Rajwana: First of all, I would like to congratulate you on assuming the chair as Presiding Officer today. Sir, with your kind permission, I would like to draw your attention and the attention of the honourable House to a very important and serious question of Thar. Mr. Presiding Officer: Is it a point of order? We will take that up after we have just finished and disposed of this business. We will take it up, you will definitely get an opportunity. Rest assured, you will be given maximum opportunity. Now, we move to agenda Item No.15 which is in the name of Mr. Muhammad Mohsin Khan Leghari. He is not present, so, it is dropped. Now, we come to the commenced motion or we leave this and we move on to the motion at S.No.18. Senator Abdul Haseeb Khan. W d H 2 2 U H JK z SP H • H H Y‡ J\v 6<«U 6 important motion 6pk0 6-6q7bIIfI ©\I 6ùa<0 \0P 6-. f X 6 :;<6ph 0 IJ± :[0\ Û 6b ©\I I z H 2 H JJU W G d J K•H H l she has gone with the Prime Minister 6˘7IIf „67 L 6ÊbI G ê 6-0 \P <‘ 6b ©± 6- ¬ f 567SP I\ 2 2 H 2 H H 2 j~ 3 d •G j•XFJ L U 2 G ‰F H 6tI .3 67I 5 Ž8<«gU :6sˆ 6<6æ5 Ã~ 56_:6qA <6•0 h 67I 6a<6.6_:6b0 f S 3 I ©ˆ 0 6>F 6• C5 0 P~G 56• 6;:656to Thar U 2 6discuss 6An0 :6>•°6q>@¿Jh O 6E F 6overall condition of the health sector 689:6>@O 6> v H H H J H H dv d jl motion 6-6>I f G 67I K 68[:6>f F 6context 6_:6˘>@O 6role 6D:6@O 6:5 QO 2 2 HHz 2 z Jy R dJKU nU ’ F d J K g 2 6`965G 67I Q 6AQ 8<0h 6EF 6b©± 6t:.6`96-S3 V 6A 6•=:6æ]:6-6>÷ I f v 6•c6•6-Ä 0 \ P <‘ 6b ©± 6ª6q< « U 6vO :6a=:6-SSV 6>@ 6pv :5P 8C6> v 6a=:6†bI ©µ 6q> G <6v :6-V 67I 6A86-Q L Z H H H 2 JU d J K G H 6q<\•X 567QOI L 6>F 6b©± 6bI ©ˆ 0 6-6-I f ¬ f 5 I ‹ F Mr. Presiding Officer: We can move it and then we will carry it on when the honourable Minister is here if you so desire. So, you can move the motion. Motion under Rule 218: Overall Condition of Health Sector

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Senator Abdul Haseeb Khan: Thank you Sir. I beg to move that this House may discuss the overall condition of Health sector after devolution of the subject of Health to provinces in pursuance of 18 th Amendment in the Constitution. Mr. Presiding Officer: Would you like to say something or you would like to defer it? Senator Abdul Haseeb Khan: Sir, I will prefer to discuss this in the presence of the Minister. Mr. Presiding Officer: Deferred. Next Item No. 19 of Senator Farhatullah Babar. Babar Sahib , please move Item No. 19. Motion under Rule 218: Issue of Import of LNG Senator Farhatullah Babar: Thank you sir. I beg to move that this House may discuss the issue of import of LNG to meet shortage of energy in the country. Mr. Presiding Officer: Would you like to say something on this? Senator Farhatullah Babar: Mr. Chairman, if I am allowed. Mr. Presiding Officer: Yes please. W d H H Y0U JK H 2 H JK z SP H • 2 J\v 689:6>@O 6;:. 6‰G <6•6?56•6>0h FF F G .6F address 6 5F 6 ;:.H Y0 6 _:6 >F 6 energy 6An0 6ucÄ 6? 0 economical, which is feasible and which is doable, we would H nU H 6b 0 ©¸6-6AI f 0 : ! „:96a<0 \0P 6 certainly welcome that initiative of the Government. H d H H z l J U H 0U § H 2 2 ’ 200 6>v 6cï· 66>• ‹F‹ 6> 6>/ 6> v 6;:.6Y energy 6-V 6 >@O 6 G 6;< \ ¿ F <6ùp5S f ~ •h 6-6>@ V O 6•=: z 6aspects 69C6>F 6 project 6_:6q•‰ 6>G <0h 6• F 6 million cubic feet gas per day import

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either you take it or you pay meaning thereby that regardless of whether you import the full quantity of LNG or not, you have to make all this payment. 2 H H J\”Ij· FJû F JK2 J K H JK z SP H 67I 6•6?I 6>v 6-96•60h shale gas 67II 6FG 6> .6:[F I\S3 6A 0‚ 6> vO :6-V 6>@ 6²G ‰ 67.6I3 Fproduce AÆ0‚0 6.6[.Ff P 6?IJ û 6A Ç \ 6a=:6pS 0 0P 689: 6>‰ 67.6²• ‹ l I H H nU 2 2 jk SU 2 U 6I f v 6260 billion rupees 6A0 6…96_:6˘< “ «U 6< ØSP 6¦S 6D6f500 billion rupees 6>•L ^ 65 0P ˘>@O that means the circular debt will further increase not only that, what will happen is that since the domestically produced gas cost 3 to 5 cents per unit. Now no study has been carried out as to what will be the impact of the import of LNG from Qatar at an exorbitant price of nearly 20 cents per unit, what will be the impact on Pakistanãs economic development? The governmentãs intentions might be very good. I donãt doubt their intentions. What I do doubt is their capacity to make a rational study as to what is in the best interest of Pakistan. 2 W H z H This must 66>@O 6:5QO 6contract 650P 6EF 6cï· 6-V 6•‰ 56_8:.6†bQ O ‰ I ©µ 6!7H IJK b©\I SP 6a<0 \0P H 2 R H H J 66>G 66tQQ 6-V 6>•@ ‹ O FUIX F 6? 6> F .6 F delink 6>v 6_:6A0 6… “ 96A 6>@ O 6F 6ªI 50P 656_: F H G J K R JK 2 6>•¿ :68<67Sh I 6_:6>@ O 6A8656Q QO international arbitration 650P 67 I 6

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we will end up importing LNG at such an exorbitant price that not only will multiply the circular debt, we will also compromise and undermine the economic development of Pakistan which depend solely on the availability of energy. Therefore, I think government should pay attention to this issue and the government should come out with an explanation as to what it intends to do. Whether it is going to reconsider this contract or not and, at the same time, we should also not lock our options only with the import of LNG. We should also develop shale gas in Pakistan and there are areas in Pakistan particularly in Sindh where shale gas has been found. Therefore, there is a need for a comprehensive package on the import of LNG, the three pillars of which should be, No.1, to renegotiate the draft contract with Qatar such that the price is brought down and the benchmark price which has been established in the region of $10.5 per unit established by India that price should be respected and secondly the linkage of crude oil with the gas should be done away with and finally the third leg of the suggestion would be that we should make our energy basket broad-based by stressing the discovery and exploitation of shale gas in Pakistan. Thank you very much. Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you Senator Farhatullah Babar. Yes, Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed sahib . Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed: Thank you very much sir and I would like to complement Senator Farhatullah Babar sahib for focusing on very important issues. 22 H z 2 z H Jf J yn0U f ’ jl d 2 ƒ H 6p0P <‘ff 6.<67030I <65 0 0PGP~P 6567 IQ 6A 6C5 0 56C5 6ª< X 96•8[689:6t î II 9b©fS >G :.6.896rb03 3 ©‚ 6-¬f 5 S P H 6>F 6_:6 while endorsing that I would not like to repeat that. 67IJyQ 6•F 6> G 2 2 H d U J 2 2 6q;56

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Sir, I appreciate the concern of the honourable Senators but I question their sources of information. I totally deny the allegations that they have made. It is unfortunate that matter of such national importance is played upon with a speculative source of information. Sir, I will start with the bottom-line, Pakistan has not signed any contract with anybody for supply of LNG. Let me be very clear on this, whether it is Qatar or whether anybody else. That is the bottom-line. So, any issue of price has never been discussed with any party yet by this government. Let me be very clear on this that price has not been discussed with Qatar or anybody else. We intend to procure LNG at the lowest possible price for the people of W H Pakistan. That is our intention 6B:6¸<±G : that will be implemented. So, this speculation in the papers the honourable Senator also has picked up is absolutely not based upon facts. So, let me start with very clear perception of what the issue is. Sir, Pakistan needs gas that is very clear. For six years we have tried to import gas and failed. The last government made five separate attempts and failed and those attempts are on record and the prices they obtained are also on record. If you look at Pakistanãs total energy mix, 50% comes from gas. This includes hydel, oil, nuclear, solar and everything else. Gas today is still 50% of Pakistan energy needs and it will continue to be that. Unfortunately our domestic production is stagnant at about 4 billion cubic feet. The current demand is six billion and the unconstrained demand is between 8 and 10 billion. We need a very large quantity of gas to meet our energy needs. If we just supply gas full time to our current gas fired power plants, no conversion, no new plants, the electricity load shedding in Pakistan will go

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down by 50%. That is the critical nature of this gas that we are trying to get. So on domestic production, we have for the first time, there was a 2007 policy, it is remained unimplemented. The 2009 policy remained unimplemented and the 2012 policy remained unimplemented. The first thing we did we implemented a petroleum policy in this country and today the investors are confident that whatever they invest in Pakistan, they will get their promised, certain returns, they will get. They will not have to bribe anybody to get those returns. They will not have to run to anybody to get those returns. They have promised those returns with the Government of Pakistan. So, that was the first step. The prices that have been offered are $6-6.60 for conventional gas, $8-8.50 for tight gas, up to $10 for offshore gas and shale will be beyond that. Shale gas is the most expensive to drill, so, it is anybody's guess, we are working on the policy, people have come to us. The knowledge that we have today, Pakistan does have shale gas but requires tremendous resources, both technical and financial, to exploit that gas. So, when people talk of $10 gas, I welcome anybody who get $10 gas for Pakistan because we are willing to pay more than that to companies to extract the gas that we own. So, when people talk of $10 gas, please let us be very clear that where we stand. There is no $10 gas in the world today. So, this speculation that somebody has obtained $10 gas is absolutely not a fact. What is a fact? This winter Japan paid $19.60 for LNG. India paid over $19. What is a fact that India signed a contract with Australia which is reported in the papers. These are all very confidential contracts, they paid between $17 and $19 for a 20 years contract with Australia. It is true that India also has signed

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contracts 10 years back or more with Qatar which are at a much lower price. That is where our failure has been. If we had contracted at that time, if we had installed these projects at that time, we would have been the beneficiaries of very low price gas today. So, gas will be procured at the market prices, at the prices that are prevailing in this region or Insha Allah below that. Also, it will be a very transparent process. Let there be no doubt on that. It will be the most transparent process that this country has seen. The International players in this business recognize that. We have met them, I do not want to narrate the stories that I have heard there but now they appreciate that this is a transparent Government that will deal with them in a totally transparent manner. So, this speculation that no contract has been signed, we went with the unbundled process that the terminals are being put up in Karachi to toll 400 mmcd of gas a day. It was a 6 th month bid process, a local company has won the contract and they are now working on that. There is no investment of the Government of Pakistan and there is zero investment of the tax-payers. The only contract is based upon that we will toll 400 million cubic feet of gas per day through that particular facility. This is a gas that Pakistan needs. So, there is no doubt that we will probably be tolling more than that. So, to say that there has been a contract that does not make rational sense, I would request the Standing Committee of the Senate to please give us time and we will brief them on how we will be proceeding. Sir, the another issue raised was the crude oil linkage. All LNG contracts up till now have been linked to crude oil. Why? Because there is no independent natural gas benchmark in the world. There is benchmark developing which is in the US called the Henry Hub but the first gas with that linkage will be exported three

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years from now. So, while that benchmark is lower today but once the export from the US starts, the benchmark will go up. Most experts believe that the oil benchmark will stay below the Henry Hub benchmark. There are many views on that but it is generally believed that they will stay together and there will be no big difference between the Henry Hub benchmark or the Brent Oil or the Japanese Crude Cocktail Benchmark. So, those issues on what is gas coming down and oil going up, this one is only to speculate. Energy is energy and the issue is that the cost of energy will be very close to each other whether it comes from gas or whether it comes from oil. Market conditions may change for the good or the worse and we have to cater those market conditions and it will be taken care of in the contracts. These are very complex issues. There is no simple reasonable answer to this. As I said, up till now, up till today, every LNG contract in the world has been linked to oil because that is the only linkage available. Take or pay, of course, all contracts are on take or pay. Our tolling contract is take or pay. If we do not toll the gas, we still have to pay because he has invested the money and that is the contract we have signed with him. All supply contracts are on take or pay, whether you buy oil or anything else, they are on take or pay. The honourable Senator mentioned the Iran Pipeline. Iran Pipeline is a take or pay contract. The price of the Iran Pipeline and the gas there, from the knowledge that we have today, that price will stay at a level of about $1-2 below the price of LNG. This contract was signed in 2009, five years back, it is not singed yesterday or last year. Why has the pipeline not been built? The PPP Government was here for four years, why did not they build

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the pipeline? Why did not they award the contract? Very simple, International sanctions apply to this project. And this is what we emphasize to our partners in Iran. There is no 3 rd party pressure, there is no other motivation, everybody should be clear on that but the basic fact remains that due to international sanctions, no financial institution will fund this project. It is a $2 billion project. No International EPC contractor will come and build this project. We have tried, the PPP Government have tried but they did not get any bid. If you are able to do both these things, there are only two companies that make compression equipment. Without compression, the gas will not flow. Those companies will not sell equipment to you and this is what we emphasize to our Iranian counterparts that please link the start of this project with very simple request. Please link the start of the project with lifting of sanctions on Iran. If you read what is happening in Geneva today. Two things are on the table, oil exports and financial issues. Gas unfortunately, is not on the table and we ask them to put gas on the table so that, as soon as the sanctions of gas are lifted, within 30 months Insha Allah, the first gas will flow in that project. Let me assure you of that. On the floor of this House, I can assure you, within 30 months of the lifting of the sanctions on export of gas from Iran, the first gas will flow. Those contracts are very visible. The grant of 850 million, I am not aware of any grant of 850 million. There are various contracts that other Governments do with Pakistan, if you look at just the LNG, the first LNG project which will give us 400 mmcfd will be over $2 billion a year. Therefore, so called $850 million grant not to import, does not go very far. So, I am not sure that where the information came from. Yes, I said, Shale potential is there but let me just share with you

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that the investment required for shale. 100 MCF requires in Pakistan to develop Shale, the estimated between 3 and 4 billion dollars of investment is required. A massive investment is required to take Shale. It is not so simple. Shale is only successful in the US so far. It took them 35 years and there are very special, very unique features in the US market which allow that to happen. So, while the Shale potential is there, it will take time, technical resources and financial resources to exploit that in Pakistan. In the meantime, we remain dependent upon imported gases and the imports only have two methods. The pipelines are in front of you, the Iran Pipeline is a sanction related issue, the TAPI, we are trying to progress on that and the LNG is something on which they are working on and, Insha Allah , you will see the first LNG Base Gas in Pakistan this year. So, something that has failed over the last six years, the successive governments have failed, I would not speculate the reasons, Insha Allah , this Government is successful in resolving Pakistanãs energy crisis with this LNG Base Gas. Let me emphasize again, no contract while the PEPRA allows us to procure gas from Qatar on a negotiated basis, we will pursue bid based tender also so that the price of gas can be established and any speculation is lay to rest. The question of Auditor General, raising any objections, we have not heard of any objection from the Auditor General on the terminal project. As I said, the terminal project is about a 200 million dollar project with zero investment of Government of Pakistan and I do not know where from these 200 million dollar comes from. It is very unfortunate that we indulge speculation at very high level on the floor of the Houses, in the media and I remain available to answer any question at any time about the LNG Project. We have ownership of this project and we are very proud and Insha Allah ,

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we will deliver to Pakistan what the other Governments have failed over the last many years. Thank you very much. Mr. Presiding Officer: Thank you very much honourable Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources. We have had a very good discussion on this Motion under Rule 218 and I must say it is a pleasure to hear a well prepared Minister. Now, this Motion has been talked out under the Rules. We now go on and we take up item No.20, Senator Muhammad Talha Mehmood may please move the motion. Senator Muhammad Talha Mehmood: Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, I move that the House may discuss the overall performance of Pakistan International Airlines. Mr. Presiding Officer: Senator Talha Mehmood has moved that the House may discuss the overall performance of Pakistan International Airlines. Would you like to say something on this? W H H J H iƒ ƒ d v 6defer 65F 6_:6-V 6v 6a=:67S I K 6.S 3 6_: ! „:96a<0 \0P 6:C5” 6-‚Æ÷ 6[/i 6b ©\I JI\ z R 2 ’ ’ H H nU H 2 3 6˘>@O 6issue 6t:6pQk0U 6>vlF 6> :56>P 6³:6•=:6•6-6-S I f ¬f 5I ‹F 6>•@ ‹ O <6<56C556ASh f QOP~F00 656.896-I3 Ï • ˆ‹~ 689:67 I C. F H W qS f G :.6.89603I 3 :bêI =:6ñ[f II\3 :[.6a< f S 3 0 \0P 2 H H z H W H R J ’ 2 ƒ H 2 jv 656>@GO 6<\I3 C6A6>Q G 67IK 6a:50 0 P 6<6_: g :( 85:6•<~/Ijl 8<6>S f G :.6p03• ¨ / 6.89I 3 )[/1 :6a<0 \§ =:6¦ I q7I3 .F 6defer 65F 6_:6;5 I ‹ F H ƒ ƒ d v q7IJ| 6EF 86.6S3next 65F 6_:6:C5”i 6-‚Æ÷ 6[/i 6b ©\I JI\ Mr. Presiding Officer: Because we have an Advisor for Civil Aviation now because the PIA has gone out of the Ministry of Defence.

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UN embargo because they were oppressed people and they were fighting for their rights. So, we have proud relationship with Kosovo and I would like to add that His Excellency is here, he will be touring also, I will be hosting a dinner in his honour at the Senate Banquet Hall where all the Senators are cordially and warmly invited. So, very warm welcome to our brothers from Kosovo. (Thumping of the Desks ) Mr. Presiding Officer : Thank you very much Senator Mushahid Hussain Sayed. The honourable Leader of the House. Senator Raja Muhammad Zafarul Haq (Leader of the House) : Sir, I warmly welcome our brothers from Kosovo, Mr. Enver Hoxhaj. He represents a very brave nation, they have made tremendous sacrifices for their independence. I have visited Bosnia Herzegovina but I didnãt have the privilege of visiting them but one day we will Insha Allah visit Kosovo also. Mr. Chairman, the anti- Muslim campaign started from Northern Cyprus in early 70s and then it traveled to this region. The seven days old children to 70 years old men and women, they were butchered and thrown in the wells because their fault was that they were Muslims nothing else and this brave nation made tremendous sacrifices for winning their freedom and we know how Pakistan was created and we had full sympathies with their cause and with their mission. We are happy that Kosovo after independence has found its feet on the ground, they are not only recognized but they are also respected. We think that their recognition was a little late as the Muslims all over the world, they rise-up very late, but still we wish them well, we wish them success in their national consolidation, in their economic progress and in achieving their due status not only in that region but also in the world. I warmly welcome him again along-with the

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colleagues who have accompanied him to this House and to Pakistan. Thank you sir. Mr. Presiding Officer : Thank you very much Senator Raja Zafarul Haq, the honourable Leader of the House. On behalf of the Senate of Pakistan and all its Members, I warmly welcome His Excellency the Foreign Minister of Kosovo Mr. Enver Hoxhaj. Kosovo, if the people donãt know, it is the last outpost of Muslims in Europe. It is located in the heart line of fundamental Christianism . Throughout the centuries the brave people of Kosovo have remained staunch Muslims surrounded by fundamentalist Christians. They underwent the papal wars, they underwent all the crimes committed in the name of religion between Christian states and they were always persecuted, for centuries and centuries they were persecuted. They were despised, they were hated and yet they never left their religion. They remained staunch Muslims and in the heart line of the Balkans and this is as far as the Muslims ever went and this was one pocket which remained Muslim, the rest all around them were Christian states and very practicing Christians. There were Christian kingdoms in those days, the Catholic kingdoms and the Protestant kingdoms. They suffered at the hands of those. So it goes to the courage, the resilience of the brave Kosovan people that they were able to sustain themselves and their faith in Almighty Allah. It is an example which all Muslims of the world can follow. I wish them the very best on behalf of the Senate of Pakistan. We are proud of this nation of Kosovo. We hope that this nation will rise as it has risen from the ashes and it has become a self-respecting and a respected amongst the comity of nations. We wish you the best in your journey forward. We heartily

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welcome you to this Senate of Pakistan. It has been an honour to have you here. Thank you very much. Now, Abdul Haseeb Khan may take the floor. Senator Abdul Haseeb Khan: Thank you Mr. Chairman. I will confine myself only to two things, the issue or the problem and its solution. We are talking about the issues only but the cause of the issue is also very important. I strongly believe that the issues or problems and their solutions coexist. They exist together. We cannot just divide the two. Mr. Chairman, the problem is that we have to analyze what is the issue and what is the cause of the issue at micro level. The issue is not the employees, the issue is the management. The issue is that the higher management was supposed to take this PIA. PIA was in profit. The whole world and everybody knows about it, the cause of the problem is the corruption in the PIA in higher management. 2H 2 2 U 2 2d 2 2 R 6;G .67FIIIJL 6a<6•F 6_:6˘7 J yQQ 6> G .6a<6• FFF f F 6;989.6567G J y 6> G .6a<6t6p f Q0 0P 0 0 0z 0 d v 2 6>•‹l 6_:6³8:C:6³b½ 9C6> F 6b ©¬ I\ 6D¨0\S3 6³8< / QR 689:6³:6•’ =:6•S ’ 6q>@O 6<5fQO 6r< g 6< g 6;5 0GceZ 68 9:6;50G 8: 2 W 2 H 2 G 2 6A689:67ÆK IIJQy 6>G 56E l F 6upper level 6>F 6;:6-HHV 67IIJQy 6> G <670h J K 6;< Ë ÌG z 2 H H 2 ’ ’ JK j3 2 d 2 U 6³: 6• =: 6•S 6 documentation 67I 6 Emirates 6-V 6>@O 6A <6<0h\I 3 C6q>@ O 6<<6<56< fhf± 0 lIJSf 6E F 6p { « 0 H z 2 H R JK H ’ ’nU F 6˚>@O 6A8<67Q 0hI 6;< Ë ÌG 6³: • =: 6•6a:6-S 0 V 6:56G 6employees 6> F 2 2 2 J H’H•l U d J H U H J z P H 6a=:67S I K 6 decade 6-I \l <67h I\ 6>e 6> G .6:56•cFQO e0U 6.6abS 3 I ©µ 678]6>I K K • L ^ ! 7I K b©\I S 6a<0 \0P z 2HH z J ’ ’ 2 ’2 nU ’ 67I K 6³: • =: 6•6-S V 6>@O 6<5f QO6-6`96˘>@I fO 6•.656r<6]F 0PgLSU 6[ˆ0G 6> FG 6> =:6p5~ •FO h 66A0 6•56- V 6<56< M Q « xIf C6> G z 2 2 H 2 ’’ ’’ U H d H F 3 6sensitive 6pk0U 6DI f :6³: 6•=:6•6q>@S O 6•.6•cF e0 6˘;56-6@O <6˘78<6>^Sh g ‹ : 2 H d H R U z z then we have to pay 6>•‹FF 6•c’He0U 6È56>l 6abII©µ©ˆ 6b0G 6> G 6t6AQ n 0 67IJK 6_:6.:6˘>@‰ O 67„b: 3 ©fI and that is what we are paying. I would not repeat anything whatever has been said in the House but I will emphasize that the solution is very simple and that should be implemented immediately

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Mr. Presiding Officer: Quorum is not in order. The House stands adjourned to meet again on Tuesday, the 11 th March, 2014 at 10:30 a.m. ------[The House was then adjourned to meet on Tuesday, the 11 th March, 2014 at 10:30 a.m.]

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