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Trail, Mrs. PATRICIA KOHS, nee PATRICIA ANN BIRCH . stage name "Penny JAMES E. DUNNE II, 21 Indian Hills RUBY in the summer of 1953 on Dollar," 3222 Riverviev, Icdibg, Texas, advised that she had known JACK RUBY advised he first not JACK for approximately 15 years. PATRICIA, who is 21 years of age, stated she had a visit to Dallas . RUBY was then proprietor of the its name . DUNNE worked for RUBY as a "dancer" for one week and three days, approximately 1 1/2 Vegas Club and a club with "Bllvea" in a result of disagreements with RUBY and had to go to visited clubs as a customer . In 1954, DUNNE moved to years ago. She quit as the Bar in 1955 the American Guild of Variety Artists (AGVA) t collect her salary, and RUBY Dallas, operating a lounge known as Ritz and out of Dallas since that was fined $50 by the AGVA, which $50 Mrs. KOHS received . and 1958 . DUNNE has been In time . His main interest is insurance. Re was never a close Mrs . KOHS stated RUBY had a violent temper and recalled o occasion aeaociate of RUBY but cue to know him an a "Guy you see the business section when he jostled and shoved a woman down the stairs and struck her escort, who around town". He would mss RUBY in was a much smaller individual. On another occasion, he struck a cab driver of town and in various night spots. RUBY spoke to every- who came to the club to collect for a fare and inquired as to where the one and everyone know RUBY . customer was. In the late fall of 1959, DUNNE loaned JOE which Mrs . KOHS further stated that KENNETH SPIVEY, a known homosexual, SLAYTON, a friend in Dallas, approximately $5,000 to establish a private club in was known to be "quits friendly" with JACK RUBY . She stated that on one SLAYTON was going to use occasion KENNETH SPIVEY had accompanied her, her sister JANE BIRCH, and her lolcntown Dallas . Am preparations were being made to open mother, FRANCES BIRCH, when they had all visited the Carousel Club,being .his club, Dallas newspapers blasted private clubs as a operated by RUBY . result of gambling at one private club . SLAYTON felt that private clubs were in disrepute, that success of Mrs . KOHS also stated that she, as wall as her sister and mother, the club was doubtful, and that more capital would be had been present on one occasion o recalled date at a party given in th:eoeded . JACK RUBY had looked at the club during the some duplex, address not recalled but located in the Oak Cliff addition time it wan being decorated and equipped and expressed of Dallas, when RUBY had gotten drunk, and had taken off his clothes and rolled in interest in the club . An a result, JOE BIAYTONe took n She floor naked. Mrs. KOHS also stated that RUBY was evidently very proud RUBY in as a partner. of his physical build and would frequently come back to tic girls° dressing roan with his shirt off, pat his chest, and ask the girls if they didn't think The club opened as the 8overign Club 1p January he had a good physical build. or rebruary, 1980, to the best of DUNNE's recall&Lion. It was not a success. SLAYTON, with DUNNE's consent, got Mrs. KOHS concluded that she had never observed LEE HARVEY OSWALD out of the club, letting RUBY have the entire operation. n the Carousel Club while she was employed there ; that she did not know DUNNE received nothing on his loan to SLAYTON. RUBY later OSWALD and did not know of any association between JACK RUBY and LEE HARVEY changed it to a public club with strip teams acts and changed OSWALD, the name to the Carousal . DUNNE is of the opinion that HURT put up $10,000 initially, and SIAYTDN indicated that RUBY loat $5 to $10,000 in operation before he made it a public club .

DUNNE indicated that he frequented the 8overign Club during the period when SLAYTON was associated with the club which was only about a month and a half after it opened . He now !ore of RUBY during this time than before or after.

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he believed RUDY is basically stated that he had no part in the management of DUNNE indicated DURRE lonely can who was easily motivated and swayed . the club . a simple, He indicated that RUDY was easy to handle in business not believe RUBY was "ribbed" into RUDY Impressed DUNNE as a man who caw from deals. DUNNE does shooting OSWAID . DONRE believes rather that RUBY nay have very poor circumatences . He bad a great inferloritj himself . The 3ovsrign been influenced by bitter talk he must have heard from complex and wanted to batter RUBY say impressed RUDY as a step up from police, plus the attitude evidenced by OSWAID . Club, DUNNK believed, the one great act In of clubs he had been opgrsting. RUBY had a have seen his shooting of OSWAID an the type chance to amount to something. great respect for authority and for success ae exampli- his life and his one great and good clothes. RUBY vas at him fled by a bankroll RUBY a crowd when he would be loud . Alone, he was DUNNE recalls no political comment by worst in radical or quiet. whatsoever . He is certain RUBY had no extremist views. BABY exhibited such admiration for socialist DUNNE noted that RUDY's treatment of policemen financial success that he could have had' no to believe at his club was not an attempt on his part to buy favors sympathies whatsoever . DUNNE ban no reason merely an indication of his respect for authority . RUBY had any connection with the Fair Play for Cuba but was character . RUBY intimated but never directly stated that he had Committee or any other organization of a similar the assassination "Important" connections In Chicago. He dropped names of DUNNE had never beard of OSWALD prior to Information as to any underworld figures who were mentioned in newspapers . of President KENNEDY and ban no between OSWAID and BUSY . DUNNE stated that he also was acquainted In Chicago prior connection although not In the underworld, and that he never found not know of RUBY's ever anyone in Chicago who knew RUBY . DUNNE stated he did having dates with girls but he had never noticed anything homosexual, RUBY once took periodic trips to Chicago. He which caused him to suspect RUBY of being a considered this possibility would intimate that he had to go to Chicago to see his although DUNNE particularly connections. DUREE suspects that "RUBY was merely following because RUBY did not seem to have,dates with females. Jewish custom" of paying his respects to his father . DUNNE known that the current roommate of RUBY, DUMB stated RUBY is not as rough as news reports GEORGE SENATOR, did date girls . '.ndicate . He would eject any customer from his clubs if of RUBY was a man named RALPH, the customer was causing trouble and he would protect his Another associate interests but he was not aggressive or quarrelsome. To whose last nano DUNNE does not recall . This man, probably Grand the contrary, he seemed to want everyone to like bin. foreign born, operated a drive-in restaurant at Prairie, Texas. During dealings with SLAYTON regarding While RUBY and SIAYTON had the Soverign Club, the Soverign Club, RUBY indicated he was getting sonny suspects that RALPH ROSY had a blue .38 caliber snub-nosed revolver which he from a brother in Chicago but DUNNE RALPH is in his late sixties carried in his money sack when he carried money. RUBY was furnishing RUDY money . or seventies . Indicated he feared being robbed, that he had been robbed at one time or threats to rob him had been made, and that that during the Soverign Club be was going to protect himself. DUNNE recalled period, Runt was visited by a man from Biami, Florida, who broke and who RUBY also intimated that he had had to leave Chicago talked like a millionaire but was apparsut night clubs in Florida . because he had offended some of "the big boys" but actually, boasted of having operated believes RUBY was not smart enough to sake a DUNNE simply to 1'SVIAg L his 91016 is Chicago. RUDY employed a Dallas attorney named KAUFMAN draw contracts regarding the Boverign Club .

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COMMISSION EXHIBIT NO. 1500-Continued COMMISSION EXHIBIT No. 1500-Continued V I J ~M In . . 113 " 1 FEDERAL BUREAU OF ~nrcapgun ~~~ W W O 4 Dab 11/24/63 DL 44-1639 o> DDMRR knows TONY ZOPPI, a columnist for the Dallas Morning none of ROBY'A relatives . Na last News, writes a daily column on entertainment life in o sw RUNT- about two years age In Dallas-and them only to the Dallas, Texas area with emphasis on amusement spots say hello . DUMB has sever boom is the Carousel Club and night clubs . X siege it has bass me aased . X ZOPPI has known JACK LEON RUBY, also known as Jack Rubenstein, for approximately 12 years . He stated RUBY first came to Dallas from Chicago, Illinois . xOPPI is of the opinion that he was using the name, JACK RUBY, a upon his arrival in Dallas . ZOPPI stated RUBY first associated with the Plantation Club where he would'O appear nightly dressed in a cowboy outfit and would at times act as Master of Cere monies and came to be known as "the Chicago Cowboy" . After approximately one year RUBY obtained the Vegas Club and still owns this club which is allegedly managed by his sister, EVA GRAND or EVA GRANT . In addition to the ownership of the Vegas Club, RUBY also now operates the Carousel Club, but has requested ZOPPI not to refer to him an the owner of the Carousel Club . Recently ZOPPI stated that RUBY informed him, "Business is good and I have moved into a prestige apartment ." RUHY'e rowonete is GEORGE SENATOR (who xaa picked up for questioning by the Dallas Police Department on the after- noon of November 24, 1963) . For approximately the past two years RUBY allegedly has been going with a Dallas girl (name unknown to ZOPPI) . ZOPPI "has heard rumors" as to the possibility of RUBY being a homosexual, but has no definite information on this .

ZOPPI described RUBY as "highly emotional" and stated that he could change from one mood to another instantly and when in an angry mood "would not reason" .

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