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COMMONWEALTH OF AUSTRALIA PARLIAMENTARY DEBATES SENATE Official Hansard MONDAY, 28 OCTOBER 1996 THIRTY-EIGHTH PARLIAMENT FIRST SESSION—SECOND PERIOD BY AUTHORITY OF THE SENATE CANBERRA CONTENTS MONDAY, 28 OCTOBER Ministerial Arrangements ................................. 4545 Questions Without Notice— Minister for Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs . 4545 Lindsay By-election ................................... 4546 Unemployment ....................................... 4547 Interest Rates ........................................ 4548 Unemployment ....................................... 4549 Youth Concert: Military Police ........................... 4550 Minister for Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs . 4551 Trade ............................................. 4552 ATSIC: Special Auditor ................................ 4553 Public Housing ...................................... 4555 Boobera Lagoon ...................................... 4556 Higher Education Contribution Scheme ...................... 4556 Office Fit-outs ....................................... 4558 Questions On Notice— Question No 115 ..................................... 4559 Questions Without Notice— Boobera Lagoon ...................................... 4559 Gun Control: Advertising Contract ......................... 4559 Minister for Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs . 4559 Petitions— Gun Control ........................................ 4566 Telstra: Privatisation ................................... 4566 ABC: Funding ....................................... 4566 ABC: Funding ....................................... 4566 ABC: Funding ....................................... 4566 ABC: Funding ....................................... 4567 Medicare Offices ..................................... 4567 Radio Triple J ....................................... 4567 Medicare Provider Numbers ............................. 4567 Medicare Provider Numbers ............................. 4567 Notices of Motion— Assistant Treasurer .................................... 4568 Sir Roland Wilson .................................... 4568 Unemployment ....................................... 4568 Burma ............................................. 4568 Community Affairs Legislation Committee ................... 4568 Liberal Party Fundraising ............................... 4568 Community Affairs Legislation Committee ................... 4569 Consideration of Legislation ............................. 4569 Lindsay By-election ................................... 4569 Lindsay By-election ................................... 4569 Public Works Committee ............................... 4569 Edmund Rice: Beatification .............................. 4570 Lindsay By-election ................................... 4570 Media Advisers ...................................... 4570 National Media Liaison Service ........................... 4570 Order of Business— Economics References Committee ......................... 4571 Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport References Committee .... 4571 East Timor ......................................... 4571 DIFF Scheme ........................................ 4571 International Year for the Eradication of Poverty ............... 4571 Parliamentary Elections ................................. 4571 Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty ........................... 4572 Euthanasia .......................................... 4572 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Reconciliation ............. 4572 CONTENTS—continued Superannuation Committee .............................. 4572 Matters of Urgency ..................................... 4572 Euthanasia ........................................... 4572 Notices of Motion— Regulations and Ordinances Committee ..................... 4579 Committees— Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade Committee: Joint—Report ..... 4585 President of The United States of America— Consideration of House of Representatives Message ............. 4589 Notice of Motion ..................................... 4589 Telstra (Dilution of Public Ownership) Bill 1996— Second Reading ...................................... 4589 Adjournment— Lindsay By-election ................................... 4619 Mining Deaths: Memorial ............................... 4621 Condolences: Sir Roland Wilson .......................... 4622 Gun Control Campaign ................................. 4623 Documents— Tabling ............................................ 4626 Questions On Notice— ABC: Funding—(Question No. 177) ........................ 4627 Mr Philip Corrigan—(Question No. 202) ..................... 4627 Sydney Airport—(Question No. 203) ....................... 4628 Centre for Democratic Institutions—(Question No. 206) .......... 4629 Ministerial Staff—(Question No. 228) ....................... 4629 SENATE 4545 Monday, 28 October 1996 Senator VANSTONE—I thank Senator Evans for that question. Senator Evans, you are, I think, quoting pretty well exactly correctly from the speech I made. I would not The PRESIDENT (Senator the Hon. walk away from that speech for one minute. Margaret Reid) took the chair at 2.00 p.m., If I had an opportunity to make it again and and read prayers. again and again, I would continue to do so. MINISTERIAL ARRANGEMENTS You then lead in to the question of the so- called Wright family. Again, as has happened Senator HILL (South Australia—Leader of before—Madam President, I did indicate that the Government in the Senate)—by leave—I I would point it out to you every time it hap- inform the Senate that Senator Alston, the pens—an inference against a minister is Minister for Communications and the Arts, contained in a question. You say ‘by answer- will be absent from question time from today ing a Dorothy Dixer from Senator Ferris’, yet until Thursday inclusive. Senator Alston is in I think I have in this place or in other places India to participate in the Australia-India new indicated on plenty of occasions, or at least horizons promotion. The promotion has an one or two, that there was no arrangement for extensive visual and performing arts compo- Senator Ferris to ask any particular question nent. During his absence, I will take questions whatsoever. relating to the portfolios of Communications and the Arts, Transport and Regional Devel- If, Senator Evans, you want to set the opment, and Industrial Relations, as well as precedent in this place that when you ask a matters relating to the Public Service and the senator something and they stand up and give Sydney 2000 games. you the answer, you consistently, having been given that answer, allege that that answer is QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE untrue, that is up to you. But I think you are going down a very unfortunate road. You Minister for Employment, Education, have asked this question in previous sitting Training and Youth Affairs weeks and you have been given the answer, and I stand by that answer. Senator CHRIS EVANS—My question is directed to the Minister for Employment, The second part of your question goes to Education, Training and Youth Affairs. In immediately following up and I answered that your speech to a higher education conference question last time, too. I gave you all the on 23 September entitled ‘The quest for material you could possibly want and indicat- truth’, you said that when parties to a debate ed in the answer when I gave that material compete for the exposure of their point of that what I wanted to do was ensure that the view ‘this political scenario often means the material I gave was correct. I in fact said last truth, the facts and the figures are lost’ and time in this place that I clearly did not leave ‘the headline, the grab and the spin take over time enough because, as late as 6 o’clock the from rational and informed debate’. You later night before I gave all that information in the added, ‘The distortion of information carried chamber, further information arrived from the to the voters distorts and damages the demo- department. cratic process.’ On the same day you attended a Senate estimates committee and raised the So let us not pretend that between when Mr Wright family as an issue by answering a Hollway advised me that the Wright family Dorothy Dixer from Senator Ferris. Have you was in fact not an actual family in itself, not contradicted your own words? In failing although it started off as an actual family, and to accept Mr Hollway’s advice to immediately when I signed the letter nothing was happen- correct the record, have you not carried ing. Advice was sought from the clerk. The distorted information to the voters and dam- letter was changed to make sure that it was aged the democratic process? Aren’t you distributed. I have seen some press coverage guilty of the most blatant double standards? since I have been away that I secretly wrote 4546 SENATE Monday, 28 October 1996 to the estimates committee. The estimates Lindsay By-election committee is the appropriate place to write. Senator COONAN—My question is direct- Do you know what the amendment was that ed to the Leader of the Government in the was made at the suggestion of the clerk? It Senate, Senator Hill. What message does the was put at the bottom of the letter to ask the overwhelming endorsement of the Liberal chairman to distribute it to Labor members. If member Jackie Kelly in the Lindsay by- that is trying to keep something secret— election say about the Howard government’s heavens above! What else would you do other policies? What does Jackie Kelly’s re-election