A P P E A R A N C E S
The Sole Member: His Honour Judge Peter Smithwick
For the Tribunal: Mrs. Mary Laverty, SC Mr. Justin Dillon, SC Mr. Dara Hayes, BL Mr. Fintan Valentine, BL
Instructed by: Jane McKevitt Solicitor
For the Commissioner of An Garda Siochana: Mr. Diarmuid McGuinness, SC Mr. Michael Durack, SC Mr. Gareth Baker, BL
Instructed by: Mary Cummins CSSO
For Owen Corrigan: Mr. Jim O'Callaghan, SC Mr. Darren Lehane, BL
Instructed by: Fintan Lawlor Lawlor Partners Solicitors
For Leo Colton: Mr. Paul Callan, SC Mr. Eamon Coffey, BL
Instructed by: Dermot Lavery Solicitors For Finbarr Hickey: Fionnuala O'Sullivan, BL
Instructed by: James MacGuill & Co.
For the Attorney General: Ms. Nuala Butler, SC Mr. Douglas Clarke, SC
Instructed by: CSSO
For Freddie Scappaticci: Eavanna Fitzgerald, BL Pauline O'Hare
Instructed by: Michael Flanigan Solicitor
For Kevin Fulton: Mr. Neil Rafferty, QC
Instructed by: John McAtamney Solicitor
For Breen Family: Mr. John McBurney
For Buchanan Family/ Heather Currie: Ernie Waterworth McCartan Turkington Breen Solicitors
For the PSNI: Mark Robinson, BL
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OWEN CORRIGAN
CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON 1 15 Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 1
1 THE TRIBUNAL RESUMED ON THE 16TH OF JULY, 2012, AS FOLLOWS:
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3 MR. DILLON: Chairman, we are continuing today with the
4 evidence of Mr. Corrigan, and I believe it's
5 Mr. Robinson --
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7 CHAIRMAN: I think Mr. Robinson --
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9 MR. DILLON: -- to cross-examine.
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11 CHAIRMAN: You are ready to cross-examine?
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13 MR. ROBINSON: I am indeed, sir.
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15 OWEN CORRIGAN WAS CROSS-EXAMINED BY MR. ROBINSON
16 AS FOLLOWS:
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18 1 Q. MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Corrigan, my name is Mark Robinson. I
19 appear on behalf of the PSNI. I have a number of questions
20 for you, and I hope to get through them this morning.
21
22 Now, just to start by way of background. You were
23 stationed in Dundalk, I believe, from June 1975, or you
24 became the lead detective from June 1975, is that correct?
25 A. That's correct, Mr. Chairman.
26 2 Q. And your position continued until 1989, when you went off
27 on sick leave, is that correct?
28 A. That's correct, yes.
29 3 Q. And during those years, you were the lead detective at all
30 times, is that correct?
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1 A. Yes.
2 4 Q. And you led a team of nine detective garda?
3 A. That's correct, yes.
4 5 Q. And you have given evidence that, during those years, you
5 were working 24/7 in the fight against subversives?
6 A. Yes.
7 6 Q. Now, if we turn to your day-to-day activities. Again,
8 without disclosing methodology, but one can assume that you
9 would spend your time meeting sources, is that correct?
10 A. Absolutely, yes.
11 7 Q. And was it a case that you would go to them or would they
12 come to you, or was it a mixture of both?
13 A. A mixture of both.
14 8 Q. And would it predominantly be the case that you would go
15 and speak to your sources?
16 A. Yes.
17 9 Q. And it would be correct to suggest, Mr. Corrigan, that the
18 sources, over the years, would have evolved and moved up
19 the ladder in relation to the organisations they were in?
20 A. They would, yes.
21 10 Q. So, over those 13 years, you gleaned better intelligence as
22 time went on, is that correct?
23 A. Sometimes. Not necessarily all the time, like.
24 Intelligence was varied, you know, but as Mr. Brunton here,
25 who is personally -- or presently dealing with the C77s,
26 all intelligence is valued by the authorities, you know,
27 because -- you'd want to understand intelligence,
28 Mr. Chairman, to know that the most insignificant part of a
29 report can be, in time, become an equally important part in
30 view of what comes in from another country, from some other
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1 source or whatever, you know.
2
3 CHAIRMAN: Yes.
4 A. So there is no item of correspondence by way of C77s that
5 can be discounted readily.
6 11 Q. MR. ROBINSON: That's a very important point, Mr. Corrigan,
7 and we will return to that. Now, other witnesses have
8 given evidence to this Tribunal that one way to glean
9 intelligence would be in the immediate aftermath of an
10 atrocity, and you would go out and tap your sources, so to
11 speak, in order to glean the best information, given the
12 outrage felt; you would agree with that?
13 A. Yes.
14 12 Q. And just going back to your sources, you have given
15 evidence on a number of occasions that you went out to
16 visit very dangerous people?
17 A. Absolutely.
18 13 Q. And this was a recurring event, that you went out to meet
19 very dangerous people?
20 A. Yes.
21 14 Q. And one interpretation of that is that they were members of
22 subversive organisations?
23 A. That's right, yeah. Because there is an element of risk,
24 Mr. Robinson, any time you go out in an isolated area. If
25 you had no backup, protection, or whatnot, you were leaving
26 yourself out on a limb and risking your life by meeting
27 those people. But unfortunately, I was so intent on
28 gathering as much intelligence, important intelligence,
29 that's what I spent my whole career, intelligence, and the
30 intelligence and the protection of people, members of the
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1 RUC and judiciary coming from Northern Ireland were the two
2 most important tasks in my vocabulary. I never allowed a
3 member of the RUC to come into this jurisdiction except I
4 ensured that they had -- and if they were coming
5 unofficially, I would advise them on safety precautions,
6 and I think I have said that.
7 15 Q. Yes, you have talked about your broad CV in relation to
8 your functions and your roles, isn't that correct?
9 A. Yes.
10 16 Q. And part of your CV would have included knowledge of all
11 Garda operations that were ongoing at that time in that
12 area?
13 A. I wouldn't say -- not all, but --
14 17 Q. The vast majority of operations?
15 A. Yes, yes.
16 18 Q. And they would range from, for example, planned searches?
17 A. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't have known all the planned searches
18 because they would have been undertaken by the uniform
19 section in conjunction with, we'll say, if -- are you
20 talking about cross-border planned searches?
21 19 Q. No, searches within this jurisdiction?
22 A. Oh, no, no, searches of, we'll say, houses of subversives,
23 and that, I would be aware of all of those. No, I thought
24 you meant cross-border.
25 20 Q. No, just the ones in this jurisdiction?
26 A. No, I would be aware of all of those.
27 21 Q. And that CV would also include knowledge of security
28 matters, for example the transfer of monies North to South?
29 A. Yes.
30 22 Q. Escorts?
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1 A. Yes, not necessarily all the time.
2 23 Q. But you were the head detective?
3 A. Yeah, but we weren't always notified of all escorts.
4 24 Q. Would I be correct in suggesting the vast majority of
5 escorts you were aware of?
6 A. Some I was and some I wasn't. They didn't always --
7 depending on their origin, if they were coming from Dublin,
8 the SDU, the Special Detective Unit, would escort them, you
9 know. Like, we didn't take over escorts of money, as such,
10 in the same way as we took over escorts of VIP persons.
11 25 Q. Moving on to the escort of VIP persons, that was something
12 that you were fully aware of?
13 A. Oh, very much so, yeah.
14 26 Q. And just to quote you from your own evidence, Mr. Corrigan,
15 Day 102, line 40, page 14: "I was the man who had the
16 collective expertise of the whole border area." That is
17 correct?
18 A. Yes.
19 27 Q. And furthermore, the "jewel in the crown" quote has been
20 used quite often, Mr. Corrigan, but the context of that
21 quotation, if I can read that to you. This was during an
22 exchange regarding speaking with Superintendent Nolan, and
23 you replied that "If I was in his position" -- namely
24 Nolan -- "I'd be -- the first man that I would go to would
25 be me. Here is the guy with all the answers, well-known
26 throughout, undisputed, and it is up to me to motivate him
27 to motivate his subordinates correspondingly."
28 Do you recall saying that?
29 A. I don't, no.
30 28 Q. Well, you did. "This is the new regime. We can't win
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1 without him. He is indispensable. That is my way of
2 working if I were John Nolan. But John Nolan, then again,
3 had no experience. It was in his interest to come to me
4 and avail of my numerous qualities."
5 At Day 102, page 66, line 9: "You took a great personal
6 interest in building up in your own mind, like it was
7 perceived now that I had the most extensive mental totality
8 of the IRA personnel, that is accepted by all and sundry."
9 Do you accept saying that?
10 A. I don't, no.
11 29 Q. You don't?
12 A. No.
13 30 Q. You don't accept you said that?
14 A. I didn't say I didn't accept it. I can't recall it. Like,
15 I am here a number of days, my health issues have been a
16 major factor, and I can't recall exactly, and I'm not going
17 to say I remember saying something if I didn't remember. I
18 am sorry, Mr. Robinson, that I can't be of more help to
19 you.
20 31 Q. Does it ring true that that's something you would say,
21 Mr. Corrigan?
22 A. Oh, there is a different thing altogether now. You are
23 speculating now.
24 32 Q. No, I am asking you to confirm your own evidence,
25 Mr. Corrigan.
26 A. I have already said I don't remember. I have given a lot
27 of evidence here.
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29 CHAIRMAN: Well, you don't remember saying it, but is it
30 true?
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1 A. I don't know. I can't comment on it.
2 33 Q. MR. ROBINSON: You can't comment on your own view of your
3 own position?
4 A. Just repeat it to me 'til I try to analyse it.
5 34 Q. Day 102, page 66, line 9. "You took a great personal
6 interest in building up in my own mind, like it was
7 perceived now that I had the most extensive mental totality
8 of the IRA personnel, that is accepted by all and sundry."
9 That is what you said. It's on the record.
10 A. That would be a true assessment of the situation as I
11 thought it.
12 35 Q. How was it so difficult to agree with me when I read it out
13 the first time --
14
15 CHAIRMAN: Well, anyway, for what it's worth, he said he
16 doesn't remember saying it, but he is standing over it now.
17 A. Yes.
18 36 Q. MR. ROBINSON: And position-wise, Mr. Corrigan, in Dundalk,
19 in that location there were a number of 'on the runs',
20 isn't that correct?
21 A. Numerous.
22 37 Q. Numerous?
23 A. Yeah.
24 38 Q. And it was close to the border, so subversives could make a
25 quick escape from the North?
26 A. They were going over and back on an ongoing basis, it was
27 traffic each way. And even when they were travelling
28 further than Dundalk, be it -- there was a campaign ongoing
29 in the UK and the Continent, and they were all very
30 important members of the organisations and, invariably,
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1 they would have stopped off in Dundalk for various reasons
2 now, that I can't -- I'd only be speculating if I answered
3 you, but any one of them with any consequence within the
4 organisation stopped off and stayed a day or two or three
5 before they went on these operations in Europe and the UK,
6 and similarly when they returned from those operations.
7 Now, it was a full-time job monitoring them, because they
8 were moving to different houses in Dundalk, and my team
9 were out there full-time, very, very taxing duty with the
10 small team we had and trying to keep a handle on all the
11 movements. Like, we had four or five hundred people moving
12 at that time. I'm talking about the seventies and the very
13 early eighties.
14 39 Q. You had so many in Dundalk, Mr. Corrigan, that you could
15 effectively trip over them?
16 A. You could, exactly.
17 40 Q. So why were they all in Dundalk? Why did they swarm to
18 Dundalk?
19 A. I don't know. I can't answer that now. Dundalk was always
20 a haven for them at all times, you know. There is a huge
21 northern population settled in Dundalk, several generations
22 of people. If you took a consensus of the people in
23 Dundalk, you could trace their roots back to Northern
24 Ireland, quite a lot of them, and it was a natural home for
25 a lot of them.
26 41 Q. Were you undermanned, Mr. Corrigan?
27 A. Well, I wouldn't say we were undermanned. You see,
28 undermanned is a very -- it would be the easiest thing to
29 say, but, I mean, the type -- the quality of the men that I
30 had working with me, I couldn't have asked for anything
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1 more, and they delivered big time for a unit that we had,
2 we had extraordinary results, and I'm not -- I don't
3 intend, by any means, to blow my own trumpet. The work I
4 was -- I was only as good as they were, and I'd like to
5 think that I gave them any encouragement I could to
6 increase their efficiency at all levels. And towards the
7 end, we were an extremely efficient unit and had
8 extraordinary results, and that's acknowledged by the
9 Commissioner at all levels that have come here, that we had
10 an extraordinary success for the number of personnel that
11 we had. Numbers in intelligence, and that type of thing,
12 when we got the increase in numbers, that doesn't increase
13 the efficiency. You may have quality in numbers but you
14 don't have the quality in efficiencies. And at that stage,
15 then, in the eighties, the subversive activity had died to
16 a trickle, it was nothing worth talking about; like, I'm
17 talking about all of the seventies --
18 42 Q. Sorry, in the eighties, the subversive activity dropped to
19 a trickle?
20 A. It tapered off, yeah, it tapered off compared to the
21 seventies.
22 43 Q. So we had the bomb that killed the Gibsons, we had the
23 Hannas killed, we had the bomb at Killeen, we had the
24 Kilnasaggart Bridge attacks, we had the Breen and Buchanan
25 murders, and you say that things dropped off?
26 A. Yeah, well dropped off compared to the number that they
27 were in the seventies. The seventies was an horrific
28 experience altogether, like.
29 44 Q. I'll give you an example of what dropped off, Mr. Corrigan.
30 Looking over your C77s, can you recall how many you put in
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1 in 1986?
2 A. Oh, I couldn't, no. How would I recall that now?
3 45 Q. Three.
4 A. Yeah...
5 46 Q. Three C77s. One every for months.
6 A. What about --
7 47 Q. And you were working 24/7 gathering intelligence. Nothing
8 was too small?
9 A. Yes, and what other --
10 48 Q. Three C77s. Mr. Corrigan, that's a disgrace?
11 A. Is it?
12 49 Q. Yes.
13 A. What other years now? Are you cherry-picking, or what?
14 50 Q. Pick the year -- let's pick the year that Breen and
15 Buchanan got murdered.
16 A. How many were there?
17 51 Q. Eleven.
18 A. Yeah...
19 52 Q. Eleven. One per month, because you went off early at the
20 end of the year, sick. Do you believe that reflects a
21 high-performance intelligence-gatherer?
22 A. I wasn't the only one that was gathering intelligence, you
23 know.
24 53 Q. Do you believe that reflects a high-performance
25 intelligence-gatherer?
26 A. Well, I would accept that it's normal. Like, eleven is
27 quite a sizable number, it's one every month.
28 54 Q. One every month. You are working 24/7. Were you still
29 working 24/7 in 1989?
30 A. Yes.
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1 55 Q. And you produced one per month?
2 A. Yes.
3 56 Q. That's 2.6 percent of your total output?
4 A. Yes.
5 57 Q. In a year that saw the murders of Breen and Buchanan, to
6 say the least; numerous bombs in Kilnasaggart Bridge; and
7 the murder of John McAnulty?
8 A. Yes...
9 58 Q. Eleven. I put it to you that that's a disgrace
10 Mr. Corrigan.
11 A. I don't accept that.
12 59 Q. Now, going back to your position in Dundalk, you had a line
13 to the Commissioner, isn't that correct, through his
14 Assistant Commissioners?
15 A. That's correct, yes.
16 60 Q. And you had an intimate knowledge of An Garda Siochana
17 operations in that area?
18 A. That's right, yes.
19 61 Q. And no one else had the skills and experience in the
20 intelligence field?
21 A. I wouldn't say that.
22 62 Q. Well, you were the jewel in the crown, so I'm drawing upon
23 what you have already said. Was there somebody in Dundalk
24 that was better placed in the intelligence field in
25 relation to skills or experience?
26 A. I'm sure there were many others.
27 63 Q. There were many others?
28 A. I am sure there were, yeah.
29 64 Q. Now, let's move on to PIRA, your alleged foe during all of
30 this.
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1 A. Yes.
2 65 Q. Day 108, page 45, you said that "They were a very
3 articulate and professional unit and they kept abreast of
4 everything and they were working 24/7, and people don't
5 realise how active they are and how up to date they are
6 with their intelligence and there is very little that goes
7 on that they don't know, that they are not abreast of."
8 That's what you said; do you agree with that?
9 A. I do indeed, yes.
10 66 Q. And evidence has been given that they had details of Garda
11 golf handicaps, that's how much information they had?
12 A. I didn't hear that now.
13 67 Q. Now --
14 A. That wasn't in Dundalk, as far as I know now. I think that
15 may have been given by Mr. O'Dea.
16 68 Q. And their pursuit, their aim was to gather as much
17 intelligence as possible?
18 A. That's right, yes.
19 69 Q. And to use any source that they could find?
20 A. That's correct, yes.
21 70 Q. Given your position, given your knowledge, given your
22 contacts, you were a perfect source for PIRA, were you not?
23 A. I was not. I find that statement deeply offensive.
24 71 Q. Deeply offensive?
25 A. Yes. I spent all my life saving lives with the cooperation
26 of the RUC and saved RUC's men's lives.
27 72 Q. We'll come to that as well, Mr. Corrigan --
28 A. No, let me finish.
29 73 Q. We'll come to that.
30 A. And I spent all my life, I put my life on the line. It
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1 would be easy for me to keep my head down and do nothing
2 and then you wouldn't have the opportunity of casting
3 aspersions on my character here.
4 74 Q. So really, the only thing between you being a source is
5 your dedication to your work, is that correct?
6 A. Yes, I spent -- I dedicated my whole service to the saving
7 of lives, and whether it was an RUC man or anyone else, it
8 didn't matter to me, and the RUC whose lives I saved,
9 bravely came up and stated that here in evidence. Maybe
10 you don't recall it, but that's what they --
11 75 Q. I'll come to that, Mr. Corrigan. We'll come to that. So,
12 let's address your dedication to your job. After the
13 Anglo-Irish Agreement was signed, that brought sweeping
14 changes into Dundalk, isn't that correct?
15 A. That's correct, yes.
16 76 Q. And, for 13 years, you had been the Ayatollah of Dundalk,
17 isn't that correct?
18 A. That's your description.
19 77 Q. Well, it's not my description; it's Mr. McCann's
20 description?
21 A. Yes...
22 78 Q. Do you accept that?
23 A. I can't speak for Mr. McCann.
24 79 Q. Do you agree with him?
25 A. Oh, it's Mr. McCann's description. I wouldn't like to
26 comment, because if I commented, it would be thrown up in
27 my face by some of your colleagues for the rest of the
28 Tribunal.
29 80 Q. You are willing to label yourself as indispensable, you are
30 willing to label yourself as the person who was necessary
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1 in order to win --
2 A. I never used the word 'indispensable'.
3 81 Q. You did, Mr. Corrigan, and I am not going --
4 A. Tell me where I used 'indispensable'.
5 82 Q. I read it out to you earlier, Mr. Corrigan.
6 A. I don't recall ever using 'indispensable'.
7 83 Q. Well, that's a matter for the Chairman, because it's in the
8 transcript.
9 A. Okay. We'll leave it at that.
10 84 Q. Now, how did the changes affect you in Dundalk? They
11 brought in new detectives, is that correct?
12 A. That's right, yeah.
13 85 Q. How many more?
14 A. It was increased from ten to forty.
15 86 Q. And you gave evidence that you were cast aside?
16 A. Yeah. I didn't figure in any -- the new regime's future
17 plans. It happens in all types of employment, you know.
18 87 Q. When did you first --
19 A. Nobody is indispensable.
20 88 Q. When did you first notice these changes come into play?
21 A. Around mid-eighties.
22 89 Q. The Anglo-Irish Agreement was '85. It took some time for
23 the changes to take effect?
24 A. That's right.
25 90 Q. Was that into '86, possibly?
26 A. The British Government were working feverishly throughout
27 '86 and engaged on a major reorganisation of things on the
28 border, and they attempted to introduce a more
29 military-type operation to all things on the border. The
30 first thing that they attempted to do, they wished to
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1 connect the phone line with the Irish Army and the British
2 Army, which the Government wouldn't agree to. They wished
3 to provide finance to supply better-quality armoured cars
4 for the border. The Government took a decision they
5 wouldn't accept that, either. So, they agreed with the
6 personnel increase, and that meant the superintendent -- or
7 the increase in personnel from ten to forty and the
8 allocation of a superintendent to look after the border.
9 91 Q. Let's talk about the changes, then. The numbers increased
10 from ten up to forty?
11 A. Yeah.
12 92 Q. You were cast aside?
13 A. Well, not cast aside. I was one of four where I was --
14 93 Q. Well, your evidence was that you were cast aside?
15 A. Yeah, well...
16 94 Q. And you also felt you were surplus to requirements?
17 A. Yeah. Well, I wasn't consulted on anything, you know. The
18 Superintendent never spoke to me about any impending
19 investigation, so what other interpretation would you take
20 out of that?
21 95 Q. And with more detectives on the ground, Mr. Corrigan, were
22 you still able to work overtime?
23 A. No, I didn't do any overtime from there on in. There was
24 no need for it. Sure things had tapered off quite
25 considerably.
26 96 Q. So not only did this event, these changes have an effect on
27 your role within Dundalk, it also hit you financially?
28 A. Oh, it would have, yes.
29 97 Q. And you did give evidence that Connolly and Nolan never
30 spoke to you --
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1 A. That's right.
2 98 Q. -- during your time there?
3 A. That's right.
4 99 Q. And you actually said it was up to them to speak to you?
5 A. I would have thought so.
6 100 Q. You had no respect for the chain of command, did you?
7 A. Oh, I did of course.
8 101 Q. Well, why did you not speak to your superiors?
9 A. Sure it was their -- like, every other Superintendent,
10 Border Superintendent, I served with 12 of them, and every
11 one of them came down and came in to me and depended on me
12 greatly and at the expiry of their -- they stayed for 12,
13 14 months for their tour of duty on the border, and they
14 were deeply appreciative -- I brought them out, I showed
15 them all the important points. In actual fact, the most
16 important point of all is the actual border, in case that
17 they'd stray into the North. I showed them all the
18 suspects' houses and the places where the activists were
19 meeting, and that, and they kept in contact. They were in
20 the office in -- they came to see me three our four times
21 every week. And Mr. Connolly never came to see me or Mr.
22 Nolan never came to ask me anything, or to ask for my views
23 or expertise on anything.
24 102 Q. Mr. Corrigan, you have given evidence of the steps that you
25 took when you had new superiors over the years. Did you
26 assist the new regime in Dundalk by showing them where
27 subversives lived?
28 A. No, I didn't. Well, I mean --
29 103 Q. Did you assist them by helping to train the new detectives?
30 A. No, because there were a number of detective sergeants
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1 there nearly as long as I was, and Mr. Connolly chose to
2 use him.
3 104 Q. So you have this knowledge of the entire border area --
4 A. Yes, well this --
5 105 Q. -- the totality of the IRA personnel, and you don't even
6 assist the new regime?
7 A. Well, you know, systems change, Mr. --
8 106 Q. It's the knowledge, Mr. Corrigan, that's important here.
9 A. No, but sure --
10 107 Q. Did you assist in passing --
11
12 MR. O'CALLAGHAN: He should be allowed to answer the
13 question.
14 108 Q. MR. ROBINSON: Did you assist in passing your knowledge to
15 the new regime?
16
17 MR. O'CALLAGHAN: The witness should be allowed to answer
18 the question. It's a much more casual way of dealing with
19 it, and we'll get through a lot more work if he is allowed
20 to answer the question.
21 A. There were other members who were in Dundalk nearly as long
22 as me --
23 109 Q. MR. ROBINSON: I am not asking about other members,
24 Mr. Corrigan; I am asking about you. Did you assist the
25 new regime in relation to identifying where subversives
26 lived, or anything like that?
27 A. I answered any questions that I was asked.
28 110 Q. Were you asked any questions?
29 A. No. That's the point I'm coming to.
30 111 Q. Did you volunteer?
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1 A. No. The situation is, when a change in a regime comes,
2 there was another member who Mr. Connolly was dealing with
3 on a one-to-one basis, and that's part and parcel of
4 regimes in every -- I'm sure you have seen it before so
5 often, that a regime change, and some other person is
6 consulted on the relevant day-to-day workings, and there
7 was a man there who was there as long as I was and was the
8 same rank and had extensive -- and been all his years on
9 the border, and he was the man that Mr. Connolly chose to
10 use as his day-to-day adviser, and that's -- I accepted
11 that. As I said, this happens in all walks of life, not
12 alone in the Gardaí. You get a change of management and
13 there is a different emphasis on different personnel.
14 People think that they can do the thing better than the
15 previous administration, that's all a matter of opinion.
16 112 Q. Your sources, Mr. Corrigan, over the years, you gleaned the
17 best sources that you could, isn't that correct?
18 A. Yes.
19 113 Q. When the new regime came in, did you assist the new regime
20 transferring contacts or sources over to the new
21 detectives?
22 A. Oh, God, not at all. How would you do that? Sure your
23 source is the most important part of your whole --
24 114 Q. Could you raise it with your source that there is a new
25 regime?
26 A. No, you certainly wouldn't.
27 115 Q. And that this new detective would be a handler?
28 A. No, you don't do that at all. A source is very hard to
29 find and you must be covetous in your handling of him and
30 make sure you hold on to him.
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1 116 Q. I just want to be very, very clear, Mr. Corrigan, because
2 you had spent 13 years building up a body of sources?
3 A. Yes.
4 117 Q. And you failed to transfer any over to the new regime when
5 you opted out?
6 A. No, I retained them to the very end. I wouldn't give a
7 source to anyone. I'd be letting down the source, apart
8 from letting down myself.
9 118 Q. So you maintained the sources --
10 A. We are not --
11 119 Q. Mr. Corrigan, I just want to be clear, this is very
12 important because this is your evidence, do you understand
13 that? You had a certain duty and role in Dundalk, and this
14 is about your dedication to the job. Now, I want to be
15 very, very clear that your answer is that you never
16 transferred an agent -- or, sorry, a source over to other
17 detectives?
18 A. That's right.
19 120 Q. Even when you opted out?
20 A. Yes.
21 121 Q. And I also want it clear that you continued to hold on to
22 those sources until the end, is that correct?
23 A. That's right, yes.
24 122 Q. And you were producing the best intelligence from Dundalk,
25 is that correct, over the years?
26 A. Oh, I don't know now. The Commissioner Ainsworth, who was
27 in charge of intelligence, put down my intelligence as in
28 excess of 400 C77s, so, I mean, we have all kinds of
29 experts coming up here criticising the quality of them, but
30 the quantity is that they are -- I think it's 411 I
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1 submitted.
2 123 Q. What I'm suggesting, Mr. Corrigan, is this: you had access
3 to valuable information through your sources?
4 A. Yes.
5 124 Q. Yet, you didn't pass that on, did you?
6 A. No, I didn't, no. I wouldn't pass a source to anyone.
7 125 Q. And therefore, in not passing over your source, you impeded
8 the flow of information to An Garda Siochana?
9 A. Oh, well, it's up to every other person to go out and get
10 his --
11 126 Q. This is about you, Mr. Corrigan.
12 A. Yeah...
13 127 Q. You impeded the flow of intelligence to An Garda Siochana
14 by failing to pass on your sources?
15 A. No, sure I was leaving -- I was retiring from the force.
16 Why should I be passing on my information to anyone? It
17 was up to every --
18 128 Q. To save lives, Mr. Corrigan.
19 A. Yes...
20 129 Q. That's why. That's what you were doing this for.
21 A. I was.
22 130 Q. That's one of your -- the two elements of your service was
23 gathering intelligence and the protection of VIPs. So
24 let's look at the first element of that. You failed to do
25 that by refusing or not providing your sources to the new
26 regime?
27 A. I saved more lives than any member, can I tell you? Saved
28 more. I brought the bombing campaign in Belfast to an end
29 by going up to RUC station in Newry and talking to a man
30 who refused to speak to the RUC, myself and Terry Hynes.
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1 He was in custody for the RUC from Friday evening at five
2 o'clock, and we got a call Monday morning that there was a
3 man in custody who had been arrested with a load of
4 explosives, but he wouldn't tell the RUC where he got them.
5 Now, I had been stationed in Drogheda previously and I knew
6 that there was a very high-grade sympathiser who we
7 suspected of storing the stuff en route to -- Belfast would
8 have been bombed now on literally a weekly basis,
9 Mr. Chairman. And the RUC rang, exasperated that this
10 individual in from Friday evening until Monday morning and
11 he wouldn't tell them. So I got Mr. Hynes, who was a very
12 experienced operator, cross-border operator dealing with
13 the RUC, and the two of us headed up to Newry. We went
14 into the interview room in Newry and he asked us were we
15 British intelligence? So, at that stage, Mr. Hynes
16 produced a Garda ID card, and he said okay and he asked the
17 RUC member there to leave the room. So he left the room,
18 and we spoke to him for about an hour and I then put the
19 suggestion to him, "By the way, would you be interested in
20 coming down and showing us where this is?" And he thought
21 about it. "No," he said, "I'd be afraid." So we kept on
22 the conversation there for a couple of hours, and then I
23 put it to him again, and then he said, "Yeah, I will." So,
24 suddenly, I went back out, I got the RUC man who was in the
25 interview -- or he wasn't actually in the interview, he was
26 more or less making up the numbers in the room. So we got
27 into their car, he brought somebody else with him, a second
28 person, this individual got into the car, and myself and
29 Mr. Hynes, and we drove up. Now, we asked him -- we had
30 skeleton particulars. He said that as you go up the main
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1 Dublin-Belfast road, you pass Butlins holiday camp on your
2 left and then you turn right in off that. So I knew we
3 were -- where we were heading and I knew this was the
4 location of the farm. But it was a farm of 93 acres, an
5 extremely valuable piece of land, and he said -- he came up
6 and we turned. Now, before that we had a surveillance for
7 the previous 14 years, Mr. Chairman, on a man from Dundalk
8 who was acting as a lookout for them when they were moving
9 the stuff to Belfast, the explosives, and we were stopping
10 him maybe six times, seven times a day, and he would abuse
11 the guards and whatnot, an elderly man, but we knew that
12 from the surveillance we were carrying out on him he was
13 somewhere between Delvin Bridge, which is the boundary
14 bridge between Meath and Dublin, and Lurgangreen in
15 Dundalk, which is on the outskirts between Castlebellingham
16 and Dundalk, we knew the explosive dump had to be there.
17 So we got into the car with them, with -- the RUC man came
18 with us, and up, and we turned right, I knew where we were
19 going for, and he brought us in and showed us exactly,
20 because a farm of that size, there was no point in saying
21 -- taking photographs of it, or whatnot. A farm of that
22 size, you had to pinpoint exactly where the bunker was.
23 So, we pushed him a bit harder and we got him to go in and
24 show us what it was. So, I put him back into the car and
25 went in to the Superintendent, Mr. Giblin, who was here
26 giving evidence, and he got the men out and got the
27 necessary equipment, and the arms dump contained
28 three-and-a-half tonnes of explosive material. Now, that
29 dump had been used, from the explosion in Belfast in 1969
30 until we got him in 14 years, and when that -- it was the
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1 biggest dump ever found in the North, and on the day it was
2 found, the bombing of Belfast dropped off to a trickle. So
3 how many lives did that discovery find -- and the man who
4 owned it was a native of County Armagh, and he has since
5 passed away, unfortunately.
6 131 Q. What year was that, Mr. Corrigan?
7 A. It was the late -- I couldn't -- my counsel would have it
8 now.
9 132 Q. Can you give a decade?
10 A. Eighties, I would -- it was about the mid-eighties.
11 133 Q. Mid-eighties?
12 A. Yeah. But I know that, on discovery of the bomb factory,
13 Belfast became -- the bombing of Belfast practically came
14 to a halt, and up to that it was being sustained weekly.
15 134 Q. So that, just to be clear, there were no more bombs in
16 Belfast after this event?
17 A. I said it slowed up to a trickle.
18 135 Q. Now, you disengaged from this new regime, Mr. Corrigan?
19 A. Yes.
20 136 Q. And you mentioned there Mr. Giblin?
21 A. What?
22 137 Q. You mentioned a Mr. Giblin?
23 A. Giblin, yeah.
24 138 Q. He gave evidence to the Tribunal.
25 A. He did, yes.
26 139 Q. And he gave an example of your respect for the chain of
27 command?
28 A. Pardon?
29 140 Q. He gave an example of your respect for the chain of
30 command?
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1 A. Yes.
2 141 Q. And he gave evidence that you said that Prenty and Culhane
3 were f'ers?
4 A. Yes.
5 142 Q. Would that be an accurate account?
6 A. It would be, yeah.
7 143 Q. So let's just review this, then. You disengaged from the
8 process, you had no respect for your chain of command and
9 you failed to pass over your sources of vital information?
10 A. Oh, I had every respect for the chain of command until the
11 new regime took in. I said I served with --
12 144 Q. That's what I'm talking about, the new regime,
13 Mr. Corrigan?
14 A. I worked with 13 border superintendents --
15 145 Q. You have had heard this about four times. We are talking
16 about the new regime chain of command, Mr. Corrigan.
17 A. That's exactly what happened.
18 146 Q. You had utter contempt for the new regime, isn't that
19 correct?
20 A. Well, I was treated -- you see the way I was treated.
21 147 Q. You had utter contempt for the new regime, isn't that
22 correct?
23 A. I certainly wasn't an admirer of theirs.
24 148 Q. Well, you then described them as a vampire's den?
25 A. Yeah, well it wasn't a bad description.
26 149 Q. And let's look back to see who you would blame for all of
27 this. Why were there sweeping changes in Dundalk?
28 A. At the insistence of the RUC.
29 150 Q. Well, your answer, Day 101, page 50: "In 1985, Margaret
30 Thatcher, as British Prime Minister, and Garrett
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1 FitzGerald, as Taoiseach, signed the Anglo-Irish Agreement,
2 and, as a result of that, there were sweeping changes
3 formulated in relation to Dundalk. The RUC had an ongoing
4 complaint that the Garda in Dundalk were not doing enough
5 to combat terrorism and the IRA in general."
6 A. That was an ongoing complaint by the RUC, that there wasn't
7 enough --
8 151 Q. How could that be if you were having spectacular results?
9 A. Oh, sure that was their opinion. Like, the RUC and the
10 British Army had 60,000 troops on the ground and they
11 couldn't quell the problem. They seemed to regard the
12 border as a one-sided identity. There was two sides to the
13 border. But the reality is, Mr. Robinson, they weren't
14 effective, they couldn't police the border. If they came
15 out to an operation on the border, they had to have the
16 Garda on one side and the army backing up the Garda and the
17 British Army backing up them. So effectively, they were
18 non-effective. During those times, they were
19 non-effective, they couldn't come out and operate.
20 152 Q. And just to take a step back, Mr. Corrigan. You said, on
21 Day 101, that the new regime with the new detectives, the
22 thing became a farce?
23 A. Because you can't train detectives. Like, you can have
24 numbers, quality --
25 153 Q. You said there were four units running around with no
26 expertise?
27 A. Yes, absolutely.
28 154 Q. You said no intelligence, no nothing.
29 A. No, because there was very little happening. You don't
30 train a detective in a week or a month. Those lads that I
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1 had were very -- had to learn over six, seven, eight, ten
2 years.
3 155 Q. And I just want to be clear, you are aware of that
4 situation but didn't do anything to help?
5 A. Pardon?
6 156 Q. You were aware of that situation, i.e. that there were four
7 units running around?
8 A. Yeah.
9 157 Q. The thing was a farce, they had no intelligence, no
10 nothing. I just want to be clear that you did nothing to
11 assist that?
12 A. No.
13 158 Q. And when one actually looks at your reasonings for the
14 changes in Dundalk, the RUC were not happy with -- had an
15 ongoing complaint that the Garda in Dundalk were not doing
16 enough to combat terrorism. Is the truth not that the
17 complaint really was that your team, and you as the head of
18 that team, were ineffective?
19 A. Ineffective?
20 159 Q. Ineffective?
21 A. I don't accept that at all.
22 160 Q. No, their complaint. If they were blaming the Garda in
23 Dundalk, you essentially were the Garda in Dundalk?
24 A. Who did they make that complaint to?
25 161 Q. This is your evidence, this is your evidence. You stated
26 that the RUC had an ongoing complaint that the Garda in
27 Dundalk were not doing enough to combat terrorism and the
28 IRA in general. The reality is that you represented the
29 Garda in Dundalk, you were the head man?
30 A. Yes, well, I mean --
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1 162 Q. So the changes were brought about because the RUC had a
2 problem with how you ran Dundalk?
3 A. That's not what the changes were about. The changes were
4 brought about because Margaret Thatcher tried to impose a
5 certain system on the border, and, as I explained to you,
6 she wanted to augment the traffic fleet of the Garda cars
7 and put in Land Rovers, or heavier duty models, and the
8 Government wouldn't side with her at all.
9 163 Q. Mr. Corrigan, you were in charge of the Garda in Dundalk.
10 Your evidence is that the RUC had an ongoing complaint
11 about the Garda in Dundalk. That was essentially you.
12 A. Yes.
13 164 Q. So not only did these changes hit you career-wise, but this
14 was your reputation, as well. These changes were an attack
15 on how you operated Dundalk?
16 A. No, they weren't an attack. They were an implementation of
17 the British Army's view of what should be done to solve the
18 problem. They thought that if we could put a blockade on
19 the border, that everything would be all right, but things
20 are not as simple as that. We were not in a military
21 situation. They were attempting to solve this border
22 problem by a military -- by military means. After all, the
23 RUC couldn't come up -- they couldn't come near the border,
24 they couldn't operate anything without the backing of the
25 British Army and they couldn't come -- the Gardaí had to go
26 out there any time they were doing anything and they had to
27 make provisional arrangements for, maybe, weeks if they
28 were coming up to -- like, that particular road that they
29 travelled, they never went on that road because it was so
30 dangerous and --
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1 165 Q. Mr. Corrigan, the reason that they couldn't come near the
2 border was because subversives attacked them and escaped
3 over the border to Dundalk, that's why, and Dundalk was
4 ineffective, that's why things had to be changed, and the
5 fact is, you were in charge of Dundalk?
6 A. I am not --
7 166 Q. You were ineffective?
8 A. I am not in charge of Dundalk.
9 167 Q. This complaint was against you, Mr. Corrigan, and you took
10 that personally?
11 A. It wasn't -- I wasn't in charge of any monitoring on the
12 border. There is a detective superintendent and an
13 inspector in charge of all that. You are misquoting me and
14 misreading the situation, Mr. Robinson. I was only in
15 charge in gathering intelligence. I was not involved in
16 any part of a military operation. That was all done --
17 like, even with the RUC uniform branch, I never had any,
18 only very minimum contact, because there was none -- it
19 wasn't my function. Remember, we had a border
20 superintendent and an inspector looking after all of that,
21 and all border stations were all heavily manned, so to
22 accuse me that the border -- what was happening in the
23 border was my fault, is a, totally, misrepresentation of
24 the facts.
25 168 Q. This is your evidence, Mr. Corrigan. You said the changes
26 were brought in because the RUC had an ongoing complaint
27 that the Garda in Dundalk, not anywhere else, in Dundalk,
28 were not doing enough to combat terrorism.
29 A. Yes, but --
30 169 Q. This is an explanation of your own evidence?
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1 A. But how do you insert or imply that it was the RUC were
2 complaining and that it was my fault?
3 170 Q. Because you were the head Detective Sergeant in Dundalk.
4 A. But sure, like --
5 171 Q. You were the --
6 A. The head Detective Sergeant has nothing got to do with
7 manning the border. I think you are misrepresenting the
8 task that is allocated to each section of the force.
9 172 Q. This is your evidence, Mr. Corrigan. Mr. Corrigan, this is
10 your evidence.
11 A. I know it's my evidence, but sure I'm trying to explain to
12 you the facts surrounding it. You are not comparing like
13 with like, Mr. Robinson. There is Garda patrols, there is
14 army patrols out there every day. I had nothing got to do
15 with them.
16 173 Q. I suggested to you earlier, Mr. Corrigan, that you were
17 ripe -- you were the correct category to be a great source
18 for PIRA, and then you said you were dedicated to your job.
19 A. I find that --
20 174 Q. And I suggest to you that, after the changes in Dundalk,
21 you were ripe for the picking as being a source for PIRA?
22 A. Are you accusing me of being a source for the PIRA?
23 175 Q. I can suggest to you --
24 A. Are you accusing me? Answer me now.
25 176 Q. Mr. Corrigan --
26 A. I am asking you --
27 177 Q. Well, let me answer you, Mr. Corrigan.
28 A. Yes.
29 178 Q. I have the luxury of asking questions; you have the
30 obligation to answer them.
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1 A. Yes, I accept --
2 179 Q. You have been reminded of that on numerous occasions over
3 the times you have given evidence.
4 A. Yes. Well, cheap shots again, you know.
5
6 MR. O'CALLAGHAN: Chairman, sorry to interrupt. I think it
7 should be put to the witness if that's the PSNI case, that
8 Mr. Corrigan was an IRA source, that should be put directly
9 to him. I am unsure as to what is the PSNI attitude to
10 Mr. Corrigan at this stage. If they are saying he was a
11 Provo source, I think that should be put to the witness so
12 he can have an opportunity of responding to it.
13
14 CHAIRMAN: I am sure --
15
16 MR. DILLON: Sorry to interrupt you, Chairman, but it's a
17 matter for Mr. Robinson to put questions as he considers
18 appropriate.
19
20 CHAIRMAN: I was about to say that. Mr. Robinson will ask
21 the questions as he thinks fit, and, of course, he is bound
22 to accept the answers he gets.
23
24 MR. ROBINSON: Without a doubt. And in addition,
25 Mr. Chairman, I represent an organisation, their
26 predecessor of which lost two officers. Now, this Tribunal
27 is here to test the evidence of the witnesses before it; I
28 am here to test the evidence as well, and if I feel I need
29 to test this witness in particular, then I should be free
30 to do so. I should not have to assure My Learned Friend
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1 about what my position is. I am simply testing the
2 evidence that this witness has given.
3
4 CHAIRMAN: I think your position is clear. I think you
5 should continue with your questioning, Mr. Robinson.
6 180 Q. MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Corrigan, I suggest to you that in the
7 late eighties, after the changes brought about by the
8 Anglo-Irish Agreement, you were ripe for the picking to
9 become a source?
10 A. That is not correct, and it insults my integrity.
11 181 Q. Now, if I can move on to the kidnapping, along with Francie
12 Tiernan.
13 A. Yes.
14 182 Q. The people that abducted you, did they identify themselves
15 as PIRA?
16 A. No, they didn't, no.
17 183 Q. And how long were you held for?
18 A. Two days.
19 184 Q. And you gave evidence that the personnel that were
20 interrogating you, changed?
21 A. Yes.
22 185 Q. And how frequently was that?
23 A. I don't know. Every couple of hours.
24 186 Q. So, in total, how many interrogators do you recall being
25 exposed to?
26 A. I don't know now. I can't clearly remember. I'd say about
27 six.
28 187 Q. I believe your evidence earlier was 20 men?
29 A. No, but I'm talking about interrogators.
30 188 Q. Overall, the whole operation, whilst you were there for the
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1 two days?
2 A. Well, I don't know. I couldn't identify one voice from
3 another, you know.
4 189 Q. Well, that's what I'm coming to. You couldn't recognise
5 them by sight, is that correct, because you were
6 blindfolded?
7 A. That's right.
8 190 Q. You didn't recognise any voices or any accents, is that
9 correct?
10 A. No - well, they were all northern accents.
11 191 Q. All northern accents?
12 A. Yes.
13 192 Q. Given your experience along the border and meeting 'on the
14 runs', you couldn't use any of that knowledge to identify
15 voices?
16 A. No, all broad south Armagh accents.
17 193 Q. Did you pick up any names, or anything like that?
18 A. Oh, no.
19 194 Q. You see, something that's very, very puzzling about this,
20 because you didn't provide a statement, and the rationale
21 for not providing a statement was your personal safety and
22 that of your family?
23 A. That's right, yes.
24 195 Q. Well, tell me, what risk would have been posed by you
25 providing this statement that you couldn't identify any of
26 them?
27 A. My wife, my dear wife, whom I have lost since, asked me,
28 pleaded with me not to make a statement, and she is the
29 only person in this world that I had respect and would do
30 anything she asked me, and I paid the price for all of
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1 this, for doing my duty far beyond the call of duty.
2 196 Q. With the utmost respect, Mr. Corrigan, that's not the
3 reason you gave at the time, that you were asked not to by
4 your wife?
5 A. Pardon?
6 197 Q. That's not the reason you gave at the time?
7 A. What was the reason?
8 198 Q. You can't remember?
9 A. No.
10 199 Q. Well, you just said that you were not going to say
11 anything.
12 A. Pardon?
13 200 Q. At the time after the abduction, you said you were not
14 going to provide a statement?
15 A. Yes.
16 201 Q. You didn't provide a reason for it?
17 A. I did, I told Sean Gethins exactly the sequence of events
18 and what they said and what they covered and the incident
19 that they covered and they were in such -- went round all
20 the different persons in the station, they were talking,
21 and who was giving information, and they covered more the
22 incidents. There was one particular incident of a van with
23 a roof being cut out of it, that they wished to know who
24 gave that information, because -- I don't wish to go into
25 detail, but the person that got that information in the
26 Detective Branch, they didn't know his name because he was
27 a recent addition to Dundalk, and that was -- it was the
28 time, though, they were converting vans, taking the roof
29 out of Hiace vans and logging mortars from them, and, in
30 fact, one of them, in 1985, killed five or six officers in
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1 Newry RUC station, and that's what they were devising at
2 the time.
3 202 Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, that you gave
4 evidence that you had the most extensive mental totality of
5 the IRA personnel, and you couldn't identify any of the 20
6 people that you were exposed to during this incident?
7 A. Repeat that please, Mr. Robinson?
8 203 Q. You gave evidence that you had the most extensive mental
9 totality of IRA personnel, yet you failed to identify any
10 of the 20 people?
11 A. Yeah, well, I was blindfolded and I wasn't in a position.
12 I was deeply traumatised and didn't know if I was ever
13 going to come out of that house. Like, to ask me for the
14 powers of recollection, like, is totally unfair. I feared
15 for my life and didn't expect that I would, in fact, ever
16 live another day from --
17 204 Q. What you then should have done was ensure that those
18 responsible were brought before the courts, by providing a
19 statement. That's what you should have done.
20 A. Mr. Robinson, I live five miles from the border. I don't
21 know what you realise. I live five miles from the border
22 with, then, a wife and a couple of young kids, and I'll
23 tell you, it was -- it's very easy for somebody in an urban
24 environment to turn around and say what you should have
25 done. What would I do if I came in -- when -- I saw what
26 happened to the late Pat Finucane as a result of what a
27 parliamentary individual said, and I was afraid of the same
28 circumstances in view -- Mr. Donaldson made the statement
29 against me in the House of Commons which he was told, my
30 whole name was leaked to him by our friend, Mr. Keeley, and
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1 that's what I feared, and fear to this day. There are
2 people there who, if Jeffrey Donaldson said -- that was an
3 incitement to kill when he named me in the House of
4 Commons, and that's what I have delivered.
5 205 Q. Mr. Corrigan, is it always the case that you always lived
6 near the border?
7 A. Yes.
8 206 Q. Throughout your time being at the forefront of the fight
9 against subversives?
10 A. Yes.
11 207 Q. It didn't stop you fighting then?
12 A. It didn't, but you have no security of tenure when you are
13 not a member of the force. Like, they won't touch you --
14 well, they don't touch you when you are a member of the
15 force, because that's one of their written laws or
16 regulations, if you consider that they have any rules or
17 regulations, only when it suits them. I was very
18 vulnerable --
19 208 Q. Mr. Corrigan, I suggest to you that you knew fine rightly
20 why you were abducted, and the reason you didn't provide a
21 statement is because you were involved in some business
22 transaction with Francie Tiernan?
23 A. Oh, that is totally incorrect.
24 209 Q. And the reality is that if this had been an abduction, you
25 would have made a statement?
26 A. I wouldn't have made a statement. I wouldn't make a
27 statement for anything.
28 210 Q. And on this point about being afraid because you live near
29 the border, if that was the correct position, that fear
30 would have been with you all through your time as a guard?
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1 A. Yes. But --
2 211 Q. And that didn't stop you?
3 A. But you fail to listen to what I said. I had the backing
4 of the force. When you retire from the force, it's a very
5 lonely place to be, Mr. Robinson, and it's very easy for
6 you to come here and say, a period of 20 years later, "why
7 didn't you do this or why didn't you do that?" I am living
8 in the midst -- five miles from south Armagh, and all
9 those, I have no doubt, the south Armagh region, and I
10 don't have to remind you of what the people from south
11 Armagh are like.
12 212 Q. This rings with other evidence you have given,
13 Mr. Corrigan, with regards to the pints being poured over
14 you.
15 A. Yes.
16 213 Q. And you never made a complaint about that incident?
17 A. No.
18 214 Q. And you knew these people?
19 A. I did, yes.
20 215 Q. Were they members of subversive organisations?
21 A. Yes, one of them a leading member.
22 216 Q. And the rationale was that if you did make a complaint, the
23 next night there'd be three pints?
24 A. Absolutely.
25 217 Q. And next night, one can imagine, four pints?
26 A. Absolutely. Well, it could be anything. I wouldn't
27 confine it to pints.
28 218 Q. How do you reconcile those positions, Mr. Corrigan, because
29 if you can't even prosecute someone pouring a drink over
30 you, you expect this Tribunal to accept that you were out
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1 fighting subversives 24/7? One would think they would fall
2 out with you a little quicker if you were disrupting their
3 PIRA activities?
4 A. But sure they did obstruct -- sure nobody suffered more
5 than I did.
6 219 Q. We have heard that before, Mr. Corrigan.
7 A. Yes.
8 220 Q. But how do you reconcile the two positions --
9 A. Do you accept that?
10 221 Q. -- that you couldn't prosecute for the pouring of a drink
11 over you, yet you were at the forefront of the fight
12 against subversives?
13 A. That would show you the control that they had in Dundalk at
14 the time, and what purpose was I serving -- I'd go -- that
15 individual would be sentenced to a month and they'd be out
16 in a fortnight, and the same thing would happen again and
17 again and again, and it could happen with them burning my
18 house, or anything. You are not comparing like with like
19 if you are saying, "why didn't you prosecute them for
20 everything that they did?"
21 222 Q. Again, Mr. Corrigan, how do you reconcile that you couldn't
22 prosecute for a pint being thrown over you, but you say you
23 were out at the forefront of the fight against them?
24 A. Yeah.
25 223 Q. Surely they would have taken direct action against you if
26 you had interfered with their PIRA activities?
27 A. Well, nobody -- sure I did interfere with the PIRA
28 activities.
29 224 Q. Yes, but how -- you say they had such control that you
30 couldn't even prosecute over a pint. Do you see the
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1 difference?
2 A. No, I don't see the difference.
3 225 Q. You don't see the difference?
4 A. No, I don't see the difference. If that was in a normal
5 situation, if somebody poured a pint over you, you'd
6 prosecute them. But they'd be back in another fortnight,
7 three weeks, and God knows what they'd do with you. After
8 all, the sequence -- I want to explain to you, I only took
9 my poor late wife out for a meal because of the hassle that
10 I got over Dominic McGlinchey's extradition, which I,
11 incidentally, Mr. Chairman, got involved in totally,
12 totally innocently. I was sitting at home on St. Patrick's
13 Day in 1984, I was off duty, and a man of similar rank --
14 and I think one of the counsel mentioned this at one stage,
15 how did I become -- the Dominic McGlinchey thing. And I
16 was sitting at home when this man of similar rank came up
17 to the house and asked -- was very agitated, and said to
18 me -- now, Dominic McGlinchey had been the best-known
19 terrorist circulating in Ireland at this stage and he had
20 been arrested in Newmarket-on-Fergus in County Clare after
21 a shootout with the Gardaí. And this man came up and said
22 "Dominic McGlinchey is going to the High Court in Dublin
23 this evening, and I never did an extradition warrant and I
24 am very fearful of him because of his reputation." He was
25 on everyone's lips, he was on television, radio. Like, he
26 was the man of the moment, Billy the Kid, so to speak, and
27 I could see that the man, who hadn't much experience, was
28 visibly distressed and didn't -- I turned around and I did
29 something which I regret for the rest of my life; I was
30 going out socially, it was St. Patrick's night, and my poor
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1 late wife was ready to go and I was ready to go, and I
2 turned around and I said, "Well, okay, I'll take the
3 warrant and I'll go up and execute it." And, to me, it was
4 the biggest mistake, because what I suffered over that and
5 taken on what I shouldn't, what -- I wasn't even working, I
6 was off, and what I suffered and my poor family suffered
7 over that, including the three-by-three photographs that
8 were knocked on the wall right up onto my own house, the
9 IRA came up and nailed these three-by-three photographs,
10 "Wanted for treason, Detective Sergeant Owen Corrigan," and
11 me with a photograph holding Dominic McGlinchey, and my two
12 kids of eight and nine coming from the local friary and
13 seeing this and going into a panic. I had to keep them at
14 home and get the doctor for them.
15 226 Q. Mr. Corrigan, it was correct that Mr. McGlinchey was INLA
16 at the time?
17 A. What?
18 227 Q. It was correct that Mr. McGlinchey was INLA?
19 A. Yes.
20 228 Q. Are you saying PIRA put up the posters?
21 A. Whoever put up the posters, they were put up. I don't
22 think there is any question about that.
23 229 Q. It goes back to the point, Mr. Corrigan?
24 A. Pardon?
25 230 Q. It goes back to the point that the subversives had such
26 control over Dundalk that you couldn't even prosecute over
27 a pint being spilled over you; that's your evidence, isn't
28 that correct?
29 A. Well, I suppose, in hindsight, if I had prosecuted them, I
30 don't know what problem that would have solved, but in
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1 hindsight we do things differently, Mr. Robinson.
2 231 Q. Also, when you were kidnapped, you said by the demeanour of
3 your captors you got the impression they believed you were
4 still working undercover for An Garda Siochana?
5 A. Yes.
6 232 Q. How did you glean that impression?
7 A. Well, they said it to me, you know.
8 233 Q. Are you sure about that?
9 A. Yes.
10 234 Q. And was it based on any of your activities at the time?
11 A. No, it was different -- they covered everything, they were
12 interested in knowing who was giving information.
13 235 Q. Let's just take this stage by stage, because I am
14 interested in how they were under the impression that you
15 were working undercover.
16 A. Well, there was rumours around Dundalk at that time that I
17 was going to, and had been working in Dublin with
18 Headquarters for a period in the recovery of the Beit
19 paintings. These things all leak out, you know. I was
20 involved with Mr. Conroy in investigating for the recovery
21 of the Beit paintings.
22 236 Q. And can you remind me of the year you were kidnapped; was
23 that '95?
24 A. That's right.
25 237 Q. And the recovery of the Beit paintings, is this when they
26 were stolen by Cahill?
27 A. That's right.
28 238 Q. That was 1986.
29 A. No, no, '91, '92.
30 239 Q. Were they stolen again?
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1 A. What?
2 240 Q. Were they stolen again?
3 A. Stolen again, yeah.
4 241 Q. I am sure we can check that out.
5 A. No problem. You see, it was when I submitted my
6 resignation, Mr. Robinson, it was then that Mr. Conroy
7 became aware, and he rang me to the house, to my own house,
8 and asked me to come down to see him. I met him at a hotel
9 in Drogheda, and he was accompanied by Sean Camon, who gave
10 evidence in relation to the Toby Harnden book.
11 242 Q. Time-wise, Mr. Corrigan, you say the paintings were stolen
12 in '91. You retired, then, in '92, in February '92, is
13 that correct?
14 A. Yes, I couldn't be sure of the paintings, but I think it
15 was '91.
16 243 Q. And then the kidnap was '95?
17 A. That's right.
18 244 Q. So, some four years later, because of the Beit paintings,
19 PIRA, who had this 24/7 intelligence machine, still thought
20 that you were working undercover?
21 A. Well, there was that suggestion.
22 245 Q. A suggestion?
23 A. Yeah. There is so many rumours put about by all, including
24 PIRA, about different people. You have only to witness
25 rumours that were pedaled here to know what the extent of
26 rumours are.
27 246 Q. I am just trying to get the detail clear, Mr. Corrigan,
28 because there is a four-year gap between the paintings and
29 your kidnap, there were rumours going around -- what other
30 tasks were you asked to do that may have led PIRA to
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1 believe that you were acting undercover?
2 A. Oh, I wasn't asked to do anything. I am only saying it was
3 the general -- there is a lot of gossip amongst those, and
4 I would be the subject of gossip because of the years of
5 engagement that I had with them.
6 247 Q. It wouldn't be your association with fraudsters or crooks?
7 A. Not that I know of. I can't answer that.
8 248 Q. It wouldn't be the fact that you were meeting Mr. Tiernan?
9 A. No, I don't think so, no.
10 249 Q. And can you assist me with another part of your evidence,
11 because you suggest that, or -- were you told by these
12 captors, I want to be clear what your version of this is,
13 were you told by them that they were getting hassle from
14 the detectives in Dundalk and that they were going to take
15 them on, is that correct?
16 A. They did, yeah.
17 250 Q. And, again, if it's accepted that the PIRA intelligence
18 machinery worked 24/7, they would have known that you were
19 out of action from 1989?
20 A. Yeah, I am sure -- I don't know, I can't answer for them.
21 251 Q. Some six years, some six years prior to your kidnapping --
22 A. Yes.
23 252 Q. -- you were no longer working there?
24 A. Well, I was working after 1989 now, I was working with
25 Noel...
26 253 Q. But you weren't working for the Detective Branch in
27 Dundalk?
28 A. No, I was working in Dublin.
29 254 Q. Which brings me back to the point: how was kidnapping you
30 ever going to influence Dundalk Detective Branch?
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1 A. Well, they were going to glean whatever information they
2 could, because that was their biggest asset, to find out
3 who -- a lot of intelligence was coming through me, and
4 they knew that because we had thwarted several operations
5 in relation to different things, including what I told you
6 about the bomb factory in Co. Meath.
7 255 Q. Tell me, Mr. Corrigan, did you pass information to the
8 guards after you -- or during your period of sick leave?
9 A. No -- I would have passed bits and pieces, yeah.
10 256 Q. And who would you have passed those pieces of intelligence
11 to?
12 A. I don't know, I don't know in particular now, but I would
13 have met them and discussed various things, you know.
14 257 Q. And how long did that continue for?
15 A. Not very long now, you know.
16 258 Q. Did it continue up to the time of retirement?
17 A. Pardon?
18 259 Q. Did it continue up to the time of retirement?
19 A. It would have, yeah.
20 260 Q. And having spent such a long time in the guards, it would
21 be very hard to walk away from the system, with the people
22 that you knew?
23 A. Oh, it would, yeah.
24 261 Q. And during that time, you, of course, would have been able
25 to say "This is what I have learned from my sources and I
26 hope this can help"?
27 A. Yes.
28 262 Q. And to put you in the picture, there would have been
29 exchanges of information that you could go back, possibly,
30 to your source and glean more information, would that be
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1 fair?
2 A. Pardon?
3 263 Q. Would it be fair to suggest that that process of when you
4 pass on information was an exchange because they could put
5 you in the picture and you could go and get more
6 instructions or more information from your sources?
7 A. Ah, yeah, but I wouldn't have any extensive search, but
8 they might ask me from time to time about, apart from --
9 like, and I have to be very careful because I'll be accused
10 to be some other -- there'll be some other adjective used
11 here to describe if I use any complimentary words in
12 relation to myself. I would -- if they wanted some point
13 clarified or a connection between different people, I would
14 invariably be in that position to, as just to cover Mr.
15 Brunton's thing yesterday, the small things are what make
16 the overall picture, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Brunton, I thought,
17 was very, very accurate when he said somebody was trying to
18 denigrate the C77s. He said all C77s are important. He
19 was very emphatic on that point when you asked him.
20 264 Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, and if I am
21 labouring on the detail, I do apologise, but when you were
22 on sick leave until you retired, you had provided
23 information to your Garda colleagues and they would keep
24 you in the picture and ask you to go back and check things?
25 A. Well, they wouldn't be keeping me in the picture, no. It
26 would be, you just might meet them out socially, or
27 whatnot. There would be no ongoing discussion, or whatnot.
28 Like, when you leave, you leave, and that's it.
29 265 Q. Mr. Corrigan, these are not trick questions. If you
30 assisted the guards during your period of sick leave, that
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1 would be to your benefit, and the Tribunal would like to
2 know that, I imagine. So these are not trick questions.
3 A. No, I am not saying they are, but what I'm saying to you is
4 I would only be -- I wouldn't be in possession of -- I
5 would only be filling in the dots on the Is if they asked
6 me in particular circumstances. Some of them wouldn't have
7 that much experience, but they'd be just asking me to dot
8 the Is and top the Ts, so to speak.
9 266 Q. And again, Mr. Corrigan, I am trying to be as fair as
10 possible. That was a two-way street: in order for you to
11 dot the Is, you needed to know what the body of the 'I'
12 was; if you needed to stroke the T, then you needed to know
13 what the T was made of?
14 A. Yes.
15 267 Q. You say this continued until your retirement?
16 A. Yes.
17 268 Q. And again, it would be of assistance if you could tell the
18 Tribunal if you perhaps assisted the guards after that
19 date, after 1992?
20 A. No. No, I didn't, no.
21 269 Q. And just to be clear, your function or your speciality was
22 that of intelligence?
23 A. Always intelligence and the protection of the RUC coming
24 into this jurisdiction, be it RUC, the judiciary from
25 Northern Ireland. I was strongly motivated by any person
26 from the North of Ireland security service putting foot in
27 the State, and any member that was with me will corroborate
28 that, that when we --
29 270 Q. I just want to be clear, Mr. Corrigan, because the period
30 of time that you talk about covers the period of time
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1 during which Tom Oliver was abducted and murdered, are you
2 aware of that?
3 A. Yes.
4 271 Q. And you are aware of the allegation that you passed
5 information that he was a source, you are aware of that
6 allegation, yes?
7 A. Allegation from who?
8 272 Q. Well, you know who, Mr. Corrigan.
9 A. The British double agent?
10 273 Q. You are aware of the allegation, Mr. Corrigan.
11 A. Of course I am aware, yes.
12 274 Q. I just want to confirm --
13 A. I wasn't a member of the force, Mr. Robinson.
14 275 Q. Well, Mr. Corrigan, you have just given evidence that you
15 didn't need to be, to be passing information?
16 A. No.
17 276 Q. You didn't need to be a member of the force when your
18 colleagues filled you in on the picture?
19 A. I take great offence at that suggestion from the likes of a
20 British double agent.
21 277 Q. Well, that's a matter for this Chairman.
22 A. I am a -- well, let me have my say, if you don't mind. I
23 was a personal friend of Mr. Oliver's brother-in-law and
24 had been visiting him for over 30 years, a respectable
25 farmer in Co. Louth, and I take great offence for his name
26 to be -- for me to be accused, with the resultant publicity
27 that that will receive in the papers. Deeply offended.
28 278 Q. Mr. Corrigan, I am simply confirming that during the time
29 of your sick leave, you were in contact with An Garda
30 Siochana; you were passing intelligence and you were
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1 receiving intelligence, yes?
2 A. No, I wasn't.
3 279 Q. Well, that's a matter for the Tribunal.
4 A. Yeah.
5 280 Q. Now, if I can move on to the episodes where you saved
6 officers' lives, can we deal with those now?
7 A. Which of them?
8 281 Q. Well, we'll deal with Witness 27.
9 A. I don't know what you are speaking about.
10 282 Q. You'll be shown a cipher list.
11 (Cipher list handed to the witness)
12 A. Yes.
13 283 Q. Now, on Day 30, Witness 27 gave evidence about an incident
14 on the 27th April 1981, and he travelled to Dundalk, met
15 with you and took you to meet a subversive source.
16 A. That's right.
17 284 Q. Now, on Day 30, I believe it's page 120, you travelled
18 there -- at line 26: "But we appeared to be compromised by
19 three vehicles which Corrigan recognised as we drove to the
20 rendezvous point, and he said 'this is a trap, get out of
21 here'." Do you accept that?
22 A. That's right.
23 285 Q. And furthermore, page 121, line 10:
24 "Question: Is that a source that you had met
25 on previous occasions?
26 Answer: Yes, he was highly connected to the
27 Republican movement.
28 Question: Had Detective Sergeant Corrigan been with
29 you on the previous occasions when you met that
30 source?
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1 Answer: I had introduced him twice before. And the
2 source had agreed to cooperate in working with both
3 of us."
4
5 Further down that page:
6 "Question: When you say Sergeant Corrigan then
7 became concerned about cars that were in the vicinity
8 of the meeting point that you had arranged with your
9 source?
10 Answer: I was concentrating on the car that I was to
11 rendezvous with, but he spotted two other cars in the
12 vicinity which he recognised as belonging to
13 subversives."
14
15 Further down the page:
16 "Question: Would you agree with me that that would
17 indicate that, in fact, it was an attempt on your
18 life?
19 Answer: Well, I always regarded it on the basis of
20 the reaction of Mr. Corrigan."
21
22 This is cross-examination from your own counsel:
23 "Question: Can I ask you, and it may be a difficult
24 question for you, but I'll ask you anyway, do you
25 believe that Sergeant Corrigan saved your life on
26 that day?
27 Answer: Without going to the extremes, he probably
28 saved both of our lives if the circumstances were
29 what we believed them to be."
30
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1 Now, the questioning continued as to whether or not it was
2 a setup by the source, and the answer to that was:
3 "Well, it is pure speculation. I am not in a
4 position to confirm it or otherwise."
5
6 Now, did you file any C77s in relation to this incident?
7 A. I can't recall.
8 286 Q. Was anybody prosecuted as a result of this incident?
9 A. How do you mean "prosecuted"?
10 287 Q. For an attempted abduction, PIRA membership?
11 A. Sure, there was no abduction. We got out --
12 288 Q. Attempted?
13 A. What are you trying to reconstruct, Mr. Robinson? We got
14 out of danger's way. I got this man away as quick as I
15 could. And as he pointed out, bullets are not choosy; if
16 they were going to shoot him, I was in the hail of fire,
17 too.
18 289 Q. Did you take any action to track the vehicles?
19 A. No, I didn't.
20 290 Q. Did you take any action to track the occupants of the
21 vehicles?
22 A. No.
23 291 Q. Did you take any action to track down the owners of the
24 vehicles?
25 A. I didn't, no. And incidentally, that individual was one of
26 the closest friends, dear friends I have had the pleasure
27 of meeting during my turbulent times within the RUC, an
28 absolute gentleman and with very, very high principles.
29 292 Q. Now, the evidence is that you knew the vehicles belonged to
30 subversives?
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1 A. Yes.
2 293 Q. Do you accept that?
3 A. I can't recall what they were, but, you see, they had --
4 there is, roughly, a fleet of about five, six cars, and
5 they were moving them intermittently from -- every day, and
6 they were fully staffed by active members of the IRA and
7 they were changing -- you would see -- you were liable to
8 see them in any type of vehicle.
9 294 Q. These vehicles belonged to subversives. Did you take any
10 steps to track down the owners of the vehicles?
11 A. No, I didn't, no.
12 295 Q. Did you take any step to search the premises of the owners
13 of these vehicles?
14 A. I didn't, no.
15 296 Q. Did you file a report, even, that there had been an
16 attempted hijacking?
17 A. I didn't, no.
18 297 Q. And you accept this was an attempted hijacking?
19 A. Oh, absolutely.
20 298 Q. Your evidence on Day 102: "I saw exactly the hijacking
21 being planned, and, because I knew the area, knew the
22 people involved, that was the reason why I was able to take
23 evasive action and get him out of that. That man is alive
24 today, thanks to me."
25 You didn't even report this, did you?
26 A. I don't know whether I did or not. But I did the most
27 important thing: I saved the man's life and got him out of
28 there. And it was what -- what draw my attention was the
29 actual location of the vehicles; in other words, that they
30 were placed in strategic positions to effect an escape
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1 after carrying out an incident of this sort.
2 299 Q. Did you make a note of the registration numbers of the
3 vehicles?
4 A. I didn't, no. I left the scene as quickly as I could and I
5 wasn't interested in taking notes. The saviour of this
6 man's life was my top priority.
7 300 Q. Just to be clear, your evidence on Day 102 was that you
8 knew the people involved?
9 A. I don't know did I. I can't recall.
10 301 Q. Page 23, line 22.
11 A. Well, I don't know, Mr. Robinson. I mean, there's a lot of
12 things here at this Tribunal, Mr. Robinson, that I can't
13 recall.
14 302 Q. Let's be very, very clear, Mr. Corrigan: the only evidence
15 that there was any risk to this officer or any information
16 that this officer was a risk, came from you?
17 A. Well, he is a very, very highly experienced officer, and he
18 came to the same conclusion.
19 303 Q. I'll read you again what you said:
20 "Question: Would you agree with me that that would
21 indicate, in fact, it was an attempt on your life?
22 Answer: Well, I always regarded it on the basis of
23 the reaction of Mr. Corrigan, and he probably saved
24 both of our lives if the circumstances were what we
25 believed them to be."
26 He was relying totally on your information, Mr. Corrigan.
27 A. Well, I think it's an accurate summing-up of his assessment
28 of the situation. Like, I mean, what further could he put
29 it? He has given an accurate assessment --
30 304 Q. He has given an accurate assessment of what you told him,
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1 Mr. Corrigan?
2 A. Exactly. What was wrong with that?
3 305 Q. Tell me, following from this event...
4 A. Yes...
5 306 Q. ... this was a frightening turn of events, that a meeting
6 with a source was compromised?
7 A. Yes.
8 307 Q. What steps were taken to investigate that compromise?
9 A. I don't know, but what I do know, because I remember him
10 recalling, that source never contacted him at any stage
11 after that, so it proved that he was being set up.
12 308 Q. That doesn't prove anything, Mr. Corrigan.
13 A. It does, of course.
14 309 Q. It does not.
15 A. Absolutely.
16 310 Q. It could have been fear or it could indeed have been the
17 fact that the PIRA were on to the rendezvous that he was
18 too scared?
19 A. There is no point in me offering an opinion to you,
20 Mr. Robinson; you have your own.
21 311 Q. Mr. Corrigan, I am testing your evidence.
22 A. I am only --
23 312 Q. I am testing your evidence, Mr. Corrigan.
24 A. Mr. [redacted] expressed --
25 313 Q. Please refer to cyphers, Mr. Corrigan.
26 A. Or the Witness 27 expressed surprise and fear that he never
27 heard from, and, from what I could gather, it was an
28 ongoing connection that he was having with this contact,
29 informant.
30 314 Q. Now, you met this PIRA member on two occasions --
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1 A. Yes.
2 315 Q. -- prior to this attempted hijack, yes?
3 A. Yes.
4 316 Q. And he was from Dundalk?
5 A. Yes.
6 317 Q. Did you ever approach this man and say, "What on earth
7 happened on the 27th of April, 1981?"
8 A. I don't know, and, in fact, at this point, I don't remember
9 who he was.
10 318 Q. So it sticks in your mind that you saved this officer's
11 life, but it's escaped you who actually may have caused the
12 risk in the first place?
13 A. Well --
14 319 Q. Is that your evidence to this Tribunal?
15 A. Yes. I am relating to it exactly as I have -- exactly as I
16 found the facts emerging.
17 320 Q. And if this was an attempted hijack, no doubt PIRA would
18 have been armed?
19 A. Oh, yes, absolutely.
20 321 Q. Surely your response should have been, Mr. Corrigan, that
21 when you got back to the station, you told your other
22 detectives to go out and try and catch these PIRA members,
23 that's what should have happened?
24 A. Sure, perhaps it should have, yeah.
25 322 Q. What do you mean "perhaps"?
26 A. Well, perhaps -- a lot of things happened that -- not
27 everything is black and white, Mr. Robinson, you know.
28 323 Q. Let's go through that, because you have just saved the life
29 of an RUC officer. It's a serious event because a
30 rendezvous with a source has been compromised, there are
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1 armed PIRA members roaming about in two, possibly three
2 vehicles, and you do nothing about that when you get back
3 to the station?
4 A. I don't know whether I did or not, I can't recall whether I
5 did or not. I'm not saying --
6 324 Q. It would stick in your mind if you went out immediately --
7 A. It would, and I can't say I didn't do anything. I can't
8 recall.
9 325 Q. And just to confirm, the only source of information
10 Witness 27 had was you?
11 A. Yes. I had been dealing with him for many years and found
12 him an exemplary friend.
13 326 Q. If you move to Witness X, he gave evidence on Day 93. This
14 was an occasion when Witness X came to visit you in Dundalk
15 Station?
16 A. Yes.
17 327 Q. And you went downstairs to see if the coast was clear?
18 A. No, I don't know if that is the correct sequence. I think
19 I was coming into the station to meet him. I think he may
20 have indicated that he was there to see me, because I met
21 -- I seen the two leading Provos in the reception area in
22 the station on the way up to the Detective Branch office, I
23 think now, I'm not sure, because this thing is all hazy to
24 me, Mr. Chairman. A lot of these facts I can't recall at
25 all. My -- in view of the fact, the state of my health,
26 there are things I can't remember, like, and I have been
27 asked about different things and I haven't full
28 recollection of a lot of the matters.
29 328 Q. Day 93, page 99, line 19:
30 "There was one particular evening that I went to
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1 Dundalk to see Detective Sergeant Corrigan about
2 matters concerning the border area and whenever we
3 had finished our business he advised me to wait until
4 he had checked to see if the coast was clear for me
5 to leave. He went down into the entrance area of the
6 station, came back up and advised me to hang on a
7 while because there was certain people in from
8 Belfast that would probably know me, and I waited
9 until they had left the building. Then, whenever he
10 came back, he said 'I don't think it would be wise
11 for you to be coming back to this place again'."
12 That's his evidence.
13 A. Yes.
14 329 Q. Does your recollection accord with that?
15 A. I remember him being there, all right, but any more than
16 that, I can't help you, Mr. Robinson.
17 330 Q. And it's correct that Witness X remained upstairs whilst
18 you were downstairs?
19 A. That's right, yeah. Well, I was very -- that was my -- at
20 all times, if a member of the RUC came around, I wouldn't
21 allow them to leave the station without an escort, and that
22 was, I mean, the way from the time I was there. When the
23 RUC rang the station, in my time, Brian McCabe took the
24 call, he came out to me, Brian McCabe was the Inspector on
25 duty, he came out to me, told me what time, their appointed
26 time, I went down to the sergeant in charge and I told him
27 to have the gate open, we'll say, 15 minutes before the
28 pending time of arrival and -- or the time allocated for
29 their time of arrival, and he did that, and they arrived on
30 time, drove into the yard, which is on the eastern side of
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1 the station, the Harp Lager side of the station, parked the
2 car and were taken by the same individual who locked the
3 gates of the gate and brought them up through an
4 interconnecting door which led them up to the stairs, which
5 obviated any reason to use the stairs or the outside
6 reception area, as such; it was only a common place where
7 members of the public, 10, 15 people at any one time, were
8 congregating to present their documents, and which those
9 men were obliged to come in and press the bell at two
10 o'clock when they arrived, which I found baffling, to say
11 the least. I would have thought that somebody would be
12 there to meet them, because that was the situation that was
13 previous to my tenure, for the 13 years I was there, I
14 insisted that they were brought in, brought into the yard
15 and taken upstairs by the man who allowed them to park in
16 the yard.
17 331 Q. Let's go back to the question and the issue. It is
18 correct, Mr. Corrigan, that the only source of information
19 that Witness X had about this alleged risk was you?
20 A. Yes. Well, I don't know what he had.
21 332 Q. Now, if I can move to another issue, Mr. Corrigan, and that
22 is Mr. John McAnulty and your evidence surrounding that
23 issue.
24 A. Yes.
25 333 Q. Now, on Day 108, page 32, line 25, questions were being put
26 to you by Tribunal counsel regarding John McAnulty, and you
27 stated, "He wasn't the only one at the time. The IRA had
28 issued a threat to numerous persons whom they thought were
29 under suspicion." That's correct?
30 A. That's correct, yes.
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1 334 Q. And how were you aware of that?
2 A. Well, it was general intelligence.
3 335 Q. And when you say "general intelligence," is that
4 information that you were told --
5 A. Yes.
6 336 Q. -- from the sources that you cultivated over many years?
7 A. Yes. Well, do you see, the situation is the IRA changed
8 their strategy from time to time, from one year to the
9 next, and one particular time they'd have emphasis on -- in
10 the earlier years, they'd have emphasis on who was giving
11 information, because there was a considerable amount of
12 stuff being found and everyone was under suspicion, and
13 that's why they were engaged in wholesale examination of
14 potential -- I'd better not use the word 'touts' or I'll be
15 admonished -- to potential informants.
16 337 Q. And I just want to get the sequencing correct,
17 Mr. Corrigan, if you can assist. You learned of this
18 information from your sources, that other people were under
19 threat --
20 A. Yes.
21 338 Q. -- is that correct? And was this prior to the abduction of
22 Mr. McAnulty?
23 A. Well, I couldn't be categoric. It was around the same
24 time. There was always a certain amount of gossip
25 circulating, and you had to find it hard -- like, you
26 didn't accept everything you heard, either.
27 339 Q. But just to be clear, your evidence has been that there
28 were threats against numerous individuals?
29 A. That's right, yeah.
30 340 Q. And you are aware of the identities of these individuals,
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1 is that correct?
2 A. Well, I can't say now that I was aware of the people, but
3 it was a -- general rumours that were circulating in the
4 border area, you know.
5 341 Q. Well, your evidence was he wasn't the only one at the time;
6 they had issued a threat to numerous persons?
7 A. Yes...
8 342 Q. So, it's fair to suggest that you knew who these people
9 were; your sources were good?
10 A. Well, I don't know whether they were good, but you had to
11 segregate and assess what they were telling you, you know.
12 You didn't expect -- you didn't accept everything they were
13 saying, either.
14 343 Q. You see, the issue I'm getting at, Mr. Corrigan, is this:
15 upon review of your C77s, you don't actually record threats
16 against any individuals throughout 1989. Can you explain
17 that?
18 A. Mr. -- I can't explain, because from what I have seen, they
19 have nothing only criticism about my C77s. I was
20 contributing as many as I can, and I seem to be the source
21 of criticism for every forensic examination that they have
22 been treated to.
23 344 Q. Mr. Corrigan, these were people at risk, you would accept
24 that, wouldn't you?
25 A. Yes, risk at various risks of risks. Like, there was
26 always an element of that within the border. There were
27 people being shot over the years and dumped, and whatnot,
28 for various indiscretions.
29 345 Q. And would you accept --
30 A. That's part and parcel of life on the border. It's very
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1 cheap. It was very cheap.
2 346 Q. And you would accept, Mr. Corrigan, that an intelligence
3 system needs any snippet of information in order to get the
4 full picture?
5 A. Pardon?
6 347 Q. An intelligence system requires every snippet of
7 information?
8 A. It does, yeah.
9 348 Q. So therefore, threats against named individuals is
10 information that should be part of that system?
11 A. Sorry, I just want to get a drink. Excuse me,
12 Mr. Robinson.
13 349 Q. We are on the issue of the threats to individuals, and I
14 asked you that threats to individuals -- sorry, an
15 intelligence system requires every piece of intelligence
16 possible?
17 A. Absolutely.
18 350 Q. And threats to individuals would fall into that category?
19 A. Yes.
20 351 Q. And it's correct that, despite the fact that you were aware
21 of this intelligence, you didn't put that into the system?
22 A. I didn't, no.
23 352 Q. So not only do we have the threat against Mr. McAnulty not
24 registered, there were other individuals against whom
25 threats were made and they were not fed into the system?
26 A. No, it would appear not, no. I can't be categoric now.
27 353 Q. And do you accept, or do you maintain the position that you
28 were doing your best during this time?
29 A. Well, sure, on reflection, one is never happy that they are
30 doing their best. They'd like to do better, but, sure,
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1 we're all human, you know. We do -- I was, at all times,
2 doing what I thought was the best.
3 354 Q. And following the argument, or the questions that were put
4 to you regarding Mr. McAnulty, you had the gift to provide
5 that information to An Garda Siochana, and failed to do so?
6 A. Yes. I realise that now, but I didn't realise it at the
7 time.
8 355 Q. So, to be very clear, there were people out there at risk,
9 and nothing was being done about it?
10 A. Well, I wouldn't say that now.
11 356 Q. Well, nobody knew?
12 A. Yeah, but sure the RUC knew.
13 357 Q. Well, let's blame the big bad RUC in the North.
14 A. Yeah.
15 358 Q. We are talking about you, Mr. Corrigan, and the information
16 that you had.
17 A. Well, I'm not --
18 359 Q. After the abduction and murder of Mr. McAnulty, bearing in
19 mind you had the knowledge that other people were at risk,
20 did you then feed into the system the names of those
21 individuals who were at risk?
22 A. I didn't, but just to go back there to Mr. McAnulty, I
23 thought there were C77s from me to confirm that
24 Mr. McAnulty was at risk.
25 360 Q. From the night he was abducted, but you gave evidence that
26 you were aware of the risk prior to that time?
27 A. Yes.
28 361 Q. Now, after the abduction and murder of Mr. McAnulty, did
29 you put into the system the threats against other
30 individuals in case they were kidnapped and murdered?
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1 A. I didn't, because I was as fully engaged in trying to
2 locate the location -- they were moving his body around,
3 you know, and it was all within the jurisdiction.
4 362 Q. After his body was found in the ditch, Mr. Corrigan, did
5 you input into the system the threats against any other
6 individuals?
7 A. I didn't, no.
8 363 Q. And that's with the knowledge that somebody, against whom a
9 threat had been made, had been abducted and murdered, and
10 you still didn't put those names into the system?
11 A. I didn't, no.
12 364 Q. Mr. Corrigan, I have to put to you that that is a
13 disgraceful position, utterly disgraceful. People at risk,
14 and you ignored that risk?
15 A. Sure that's what happened, it happened, Mr. Robinson.
16 365 Q. Is that your response?
17 A. Yeah.
18 366 Q. This ties in with your view of people who may or may not
19 have provided information, doesn't it; they are the lowest
20 form of life, isn't that correct? There is a picture
21 building, Mr. Corrigan, do you see that?
22 A. No, I don't, no.
23 367 Q. You didn't care about sources?
24 A. You are building it; I'm not.
25 368 Q. You didn't care about alleged or potential sources, you
26 didn't care about people that were subject to threats from
27 PIRA. So tell me this: how does that reconcile itself
28 with your fight against subversives?
29 A. Oh, I think it sits very well. I did as much as anyone
30 could do about --
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1 369 Q. You did as much as you could do?
2 A. Yes.
3 370 Q. Eleven, eleven C77s in eleven months, that's as much as you
4 could do?
5 A. What's that?
6 371 Q. You submitted eleven C77s in eleven months, and you were
7 doing the best that you could do?
8 A. I'd question that now, you know.
9 372 Q. Oh, you'd question that?
10 A. Yeah.
11 373 Q. How many days have you given evidence?
12 A. Oh, I don't know.
13 374 Q. Countless days.
14 A. Pardon? Yeah.
15 375 Q. Now is the first time you dispute the number of C77s --
16 A. Well, I know that --
17 376 Q. -- when you are being cross-examined about it.
18 A. No, I submitted I think -- I wouldn't know, I couldn't
19 count or I have no knowledge of C77s. Even those that were
20 produced to me, I couldn't recall even submitting them.
21 377 Q. Of course, Mr. Corrigan, it was convenient for PIRA that
22 you didn't register these threats, isn't it?
23 A. In what way?
24 378 Q. Well, if people are warned, people are more careful, people
25 are wary of where they go, people are wary of who they
26 meet, they try and minimise the risk of being kidnapped or
27 abducted. So it benefitted PIRA that these threats were
28 not registered?
29 A. Sure that's all speculation. How can I answer that
30 question?
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1 379 Q. It's not speculation.
2 A. It is, of course.
3 380 Q. It's logic, Mr. Corrigan.
4 A. It's not logic; it's wild speculation.
5 381 Q. So if somebody is at risk and is warned -- I'll address it
6 a different way. You say that -- are you saying, then,
7 there was no need to warn these people or there was no
8 benefit in warning these people?
9 A. Oh, there was, of course, benefit, yeah.
10 382 Q. What was the benefit of warning people?
11 A. There were other people's -- other members of the force
12 dealing with it, too. Like, it's not solely down to me,
13 I'm sure --
14 383 Q. Well, you were the person, Mr. Corrigan, that gave evidence
15 that you did not provide your sources to other detectives?
16 A. Absolutely. What I'm saying --
17 384 Q. So, with respect, Mr. Corrigan, you received your
18 information from the sources you had gleaned over the 13 or
19 14 years in Dundalk?
20 A. Yes.
21 385 Q. The sources that you did not share. So how are the other
22 detectives to know of these threats, of this information?
23 A. Sure they were part of the investigation; I wasn't.
24 386 Q. Of the threats against other individuals, Mr. Corrigan?
25 Please address your mind to the issues.
26 A. Well, that would be part of the general investigation.
27 387 Q. What general investigation, Mr. Corrigan?
28 A. Of Mr. McAnulty.
29 388 Q. I'm not talking about Mr. McAnulty; I am talking about the
30 other people, the other people you exposed to risk by not
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1 feeding their threats into the system?
2 A. Well, there was no specific threats, as such. There was
3 nobody -- there was nobody pinpointed, names or addresses
4 given, or anything.
5 389 Q. He wasn't the only one at the time.
6 A. It was a general threat that was circulating, one of which
7 circulated on an ongoing basis in the border area -- the
8 border area is a haven for gossip and rumour and stories,
9 so you have to take everything with a grain of salt.
10 390 Q. So I just want to be clear. After the abduction and murder
11 of Mr. McAnulty, despite the fact you were aware of other
12 threats, you never filed those. Did you tell any other
13 detectives that individuals were under threat? Did you
14 share your information from your source?
15 A. I can't recall whether I did or not. I may have. I think
16 it was a general discussion that there was threats going
17 around at that time, you know.
18 391 Q. Bear with me one moment, Mr. Corrigan.
19
20 MR. ROBINSON: Mr. Chairman, I wonder if it's possible to
21 rise very briefly, I just want to check one point, and I
22 could finish before one o'clock and continue on Wednesday.
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24 CHAIRMAN: I'll rise for, how long, five minutes?
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26 MR. ROBINSON: Five minutes. I am obliged.
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3 MR. ROBINSON: I am obliged, Mr. Chairman.
4 392 Q. Mr. Corrigan, just one final issue before we leave today's
5 session. Previously, you gave evidence that you were in
6 the station on the 20th of March, 1989, when the news came
7 in about the murders?
8 A. That's right.
9 393 Q. And it's correct that your shift ended at four o'clock?
10 A. That's right.
11 394 Q. And can you recall what you did after that when your shift
12 ended?
13 A. I just walked to my home, it's a short distance away.
14 395 Q. And did you go back to the station?
15 A. Oh, no, no. Sure I was finished.
16 396 Q. I want to be very clear, because two RUC men had been
17 murdered minutes after leaving Dundalk Station. You were
18 the jewel in the crown, you were the person with the best
19 sources gleaned over 13 years, you were the man with all
20 the answers; word comes in around four o'clock that they
21 are murdered, and you go home?
22 A. Yeah.
23
24 MR. ROBINSON: I have no further questions today, sir. I
25 am obliged.
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27 CHAIRMAN: Thank you very much.
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29 MR. DILLON: Chairman, I heard the word -- Chairman, I
30 heard the word "today". Does that mean Mr. Robinson wishes
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1 to continue the next time?
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3 MR. ROBINSON: I do indeed, I have another topic regarding
4 the actual ambush itself, which would take, I imagine, not
5 more than an hour. No more than an hour, it could be less
6 than an hour.
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8 MR. DILLON: So be it, so as the person following on
9 Mr. Robinson knows to be ready at some point on the next
10 day, that's really what I'm getting at.
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12 CHAIRMAN: The next day will be Wednesday, and you will
13 proceed with your cross-examination between 11:00 and
14 12:00, so somebody will need to be ready to go on at 12
15 noon.
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17 MR. DILLON: Or thereafter, sometime after 12 noon.
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19 MR. ROBINSON: I am very much obliged.
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21 MR. DILLON: I wonder if Ms. Fitzgerald will be ready?
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23 MS. FITZGERALD: Yes, Chairman, I'll be ready to proceed,
24 but I'll be very brief. So if somebody else will be
25 starting after me as well.
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27 CHAIRMAN: Yes. Well, who after Ms. Fitzgerald will?
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29 MR. DILLON: Ms. Mulvenna, on behalf of Mr. Blair, she said
30 she would be very short, so effectively, the next after
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45:19 better [6] - 2:21, 11:24, 61:25 42:10, 57:17 6:14, 10:26, 11:11, 15:3, 18:14, 57:14, allocated [2] - 29:8, 55:28 assistance [1] - 45:17 13:22, 15:5, 26:21, 59:30 2 30:1, 30:22, 36:30, allocation [1] - 15:8 Assistant [1] - 11:14 better-quality [1] - 15:3 37:9, 47:21, 50:2, allow [1] - 55:21 assisted [2] - 44:30, 2.6 [1] - 11:3 between [7] - 13:4, 22:13, allowed [5] - 4:2, 17:12, 45:18 20 [4] - 31:28, 34:5, 50:18, 57:26, 58:12, 22:14, 22:15, 41:28, 17:17, 17:19, 56:15 association [1] - 42:6 34:10, 36:6 58:23, 58:29, 59:2, 44:13, 66:13 59:27 alone [1] - 18:12 assume [1] - 2:8 2012 [2] - 1:1, 67:11 beyond [1] - 33:1 accepted [4] - 6:8, 7:8, altogether [2] - 6:22, 9:28 assure [1] - 30:30 20th [1] - 65:6 big [2] - 9:1, 60:13 18:10, 42:17 ambush [1] - 66:4 AT [1] - 67:12 22 [1] - 51:10 biggest [3] - 23:1, 39:4, access [1] - 20:2 amount [2] - 57:11, 57:24 atrocity [1] - 3:10 23 [1] - 51:10 43:2 accompanied [1] - 41:9 analyse [1] - 7:4 attack [2] - 27:14, 27:16 24/7 [8] - 2:5, 10:7, 10:28, Billy [1] - 38:26 accord [1] - 55:14 AND [1] - 65:1 attacked [1] - 28:2 10:29, 12:4, 37:1, bit [1] - 22:23 account [1] - 24:5 Anglo [4] - 13:13, 14:22, attacks [1] - 9:24 41:19, 42:18 bits [1] - 43:9 accurate [5] - 24:5, 44:17, 25:1, 31:8 attempt [2] - 48:17, 51:21 25 [1] - 56:25 black [1] - 53:27 51:27, 51:29, 51:30 Anglo-Irish [4] - 13:13, attempted [8] - 14:28, 26 [1] - 47:18 Blair [1] - 66:29 accuse [1] - 28:22 14:22, 25:1, 31:8 14:30, 49:10, 49:12, 27 [4] - 47:8, 47:13, blame [2] - 24:26, 60:13 accused [2] - 44:9, 46:26 answer [19] - 8:19, 17:12, 50:16, 50:18, 53:2, 52:26, 54:10 blaming [1] - 26:22 [2] accusing [2] - 29:22, 17:17, 17:20, 19:15, 53:17 27th - 47:14, 53:7 blindfolded [2] - 32:6, 29:24 24:29, 29:24, 29:27, attempting [1] - 27:21 34:11 acknowledged [1] - 9:8 29:30, 42:7, 42:20, attention [1] - 50:28 3 blockade [1] - 27:18 acres [1] - 22:4 47:26, 48:1, 48:10, attitude [1] - 30:9 blow [1] - 9:3 30 [3] - 46:24, 47:13, acting [2] - 22:8, 42:1 48:19, 48:27, 49:2, augment [1] - 27:6 51:22, 62:29 body [4] - 19:2, 45:11,
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd. Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 2
61:2, 61:4 19:28, 44:18, 49:6, cheap [3] - 30:4, 59:1 concentrating [1] - 48:10 2:17, 3:6, 5:14, 5:20, bomb [4] - 9:22, 9:23, 58:15, 58:19, 60:23, check [3] - 41:4, 44:24, concerned [1] - 48:7 6:21, 6:25, 7:18, 8:14, 23:12, 43:6 62:3, 62:6, 62:15, 62:19 64:21 concerning [1] - 55:2 8:26, 9:29, 10:10, bombed [1] - 21:8 Cahill [1] - 40:26 checked [1] - 55:4 conclusion [1] - 51:18 11:10, 12:27, 13:11, bombing [3] - 20:28, Camon [1] - 41:9 cherry [1] - 10:13 confine [1] - 36:27 14:3, 14:5, 15:21, 23:2, 23:13 camp [1] - 22:1 cherry-picking [1] - 10:13 confirm [5] - 6:24, 46:12, 16:24, 17:8, 17:24, bombs [2] - 11:6, 23:15 campaign [2] - 7:28, choosy [1] - 49:15 49:4, 54:9, 60:23 18:16, 19:1, 19:11, book [1] - 41:10 20:28 chose [2] - 17:1, 18:9 confirming [1] - 46:28 20:2, 20:11, 20:18, border [41] - 4:20, 4:24, captors [2] - 40:3, 42:12 cipher [1] - 47:10 congregating [1] - 56:8 23:6, 23:18, 24:13, 5:16, 7:24, 14:28, car [6] - 21:27, 21:28, Cipher [1] - 47:11 conjunction [1] - 4:19 24:16, 25:20, 27:9, 14:29, 15:4, 15:8, 22:17, 22:24, 48:10, circulated [1] - 64:7 connect [1] - 15:1 28:1, 28:9, 28:25, 29:9, 29:16, 29:25, 29:27, 16:13, 16:16, 17:3, 56:2 circulating [4] - 38:19, connected [1] - 47:26 30:8, 30:10, 31:6, 33:2, 18:9, 21:12, 24:14, card [1] - 21:16 57:25, 58:3, 64:6 connection [2] - 44:13, 34:3, 35:5, 35:19, 25:12, 25:13, 25:14, care [3] - 61:23, 61:25, circumstances [4] - 52:28 36:13, 36:28, 37:6, 25:15, 27:5, 27:19, 61:26 34:28, 45:6, 48:28, Connolly [5] - 15:29, 27:21, 27:23, 28:2, career [2] - 3:29, 27:13 51:24 16:21, 17:1, 18:2, 18:9 37:21, 39:10, 39:15, 39:23, 41:11, 41:27, 28:3, 28:12, 28:19, career-wise [1] - 27:13 Clare [1] - 38:20 Conroy [2] - 40:20, 41:6 43:7, 44:20, 44:29, 28:21, 28:22, 28:23, careful [2] - 44:9, 62:24 clarified [1] - 44:13 consensus [1] - 8:22 45:9, 45:29, 46:8, 29:7, 32:13, 34:20, carrying [2] - 22:12, 51:1 clear [22] - 19:1, 19:11, consequence [1] - 8:3 34:21, 35:6, 35:29, 46:10, 46:14, 46:28, cars [5] - 15:3, 27:6, 48:7, 19:15, 19:21, 23:15, consider [1] - 35:16 55:2, 58:4, 58:26, 47:19, 47:28, 48:6, 48:11, 50:4 26:3, 26:10, 31:4, 34:3, considerable [1] - 57:11 58:30, 64:7, 64:8 48:20, 48:25, 51:14, case [6] - 2:11, 2:14, 41:27, 42:12, 44:20, considerably [1] - 15:25 Border [1] - 16:10 51:23, 51:26, 52:1, 16:16, 30:7, 35:5, 60:30 45:21, 45:29, 51:7, considers [1] - 30:17 bound [1] - 30:21 52:12, 52:21, 52:23, cast [4] - 14:15, 15:12, 51:14, 54:17, 55:4, consulted [2] - 15:17, 52:25, 53:20, 55:1, boundary [1] - 22:13 15:13, 15:14 57:27, 60:8, 64:10, 18:6 branch [1] - 28:17 56:18, 56:21, 57:17, casting [1] - 13:2 65:16 contact [4] - 16:19, 58:14, 58:23, 59:2, Branch [4] - 33:26, 42:26, Castlebellingham [1] - clearly [1] - 31:26 28:18, 46:29, 52:28 60:15, 61:4, 61:12, 42:30, 54:22 22:15 close [1] - 7:24 contacted [1] - 52:10 61:21, 62:21, 63:3, bravely [1] - 13:9 casual [1] - 17:18 closest [1] - 49:26 contacts [2] - 12:22, 63:14, 63:17, 63:24, Breen [3] - 9:24, 10:14, catch [1] - 53:22 Co [2] - 43:6, 46:25 18:20 11:5 63:27, 64:18, 65:4 categoric [2] - 57:23, coast [2] - 54:17, 55:4 contained [1] - 22:27 CORRIGAN [1] - 1:15 Brian [2] - 55:23, 55:24 59:26 colleagues [3] - 13:27, contempt [2] - 24:18, corroborate [1] - 45:27 bridge [1] - 22:14 category [2] - 29:17, 44:23, 46:18 24:21 counsel [4] - 23:7, 38:14, Bridge [3] - 9:24, 11:6, 59:18 collective [1] - 5:16 context [1] - 5:20 22:13 48:22, 56:26 caused [1] - 53:11 combat [4] - 25:5, 26:16, Continent [1] - 7:29 count [1] - 62:19 brief [1] - 66:24 certain [4] - 19:13, 27:5, 26:27, 28:28 continue [6] - 31:5, countless [1] - 62:13 briefly [1] - 64:21 55:7, 57:24 coming [13] - 4:1, 4:4, 43:14, 43:16, 43:18, country [1] - 2:30 BRIEFLY [1] - 65:1 certainly [2] - 18:26, 5:7, 17:29, 19:29, 64:22, 66:1 County [2] - 23:4, 38:20 brings [1] - 42:29 24:23 21:20, 27:28, 32:4, continued [4] - 1:26, couple [3] - 21:22, 31:23, British [10] - 14:26, 15:1, chain [6] - 16:6, 23:26, 39:12, 43:3, 45:23, 19:21, 45:15, 49:1 34:22 21:15, 24:30, 25:10, 23:29, 24:8, 24:10, 54:19, 55:11 continuing [1] - 1:3 course [8] - 16:7, 30:21, 25:17, 27:17, 27:25, 24:16 command [6] - 16:6, contributing [1] - 58:20 43:24, 46:11, 52:13, 46:9, 46:20 Chairman [18] - 1:3, 1:25, 23:27, 23:30, 24:8, control [3] - 37:13, 37:29, 62:21, 63:2, 63:9 broad [2] - 4:7, 32:16 2:28, 14:7, 21:9, 22:7, 24:10, 24:16 39:26 Court [1] - 38:22 brother [1] - 46:23 30:6, 30:16, 30:25, comment [3] - 7:1, 7:2, convenient [1] - 62:21 courts [1] - 34:18 brother-in-law [1] - 46:23 38:11, 44:16, 46:21, 13:26 conversation [1] - 21:22 cover [1] - 44:14 brought [14] - 13:13, 54:24, 64:20, 65:3, commented [1] - 13:26 converting [1] - 33:28 covered [4] - 33:18, 14:11, 16:14, 20:28, 65:29, 66:23 Commissioner [4] - 9:9, cooperate [1] - 48:2 33:19, 33:21, 40:11 21:27, 22:19, 27:1, CHAIRMAN [13] - 1:7, 11:13, 19:26, 67:1 cooperation [1] - 12:25 27:4, 28:26, 31:7, 1:11, 3:3, 6:29, 7:15, covers [1] - 45:30 Commissioners [1] - correct [47] - 1:24, 1:25, 34:18, 56:3, 56:14 covetous [1] - 18:29 30:14, 30:20, 31:4, 11:14 1:27, 1:28, 1:30, 2:3, criticising [1] - 19:29 Brunton [2] - 2:24, 44:16 64:24, 65:27, 66:12, common [1] - 56:6 2:9, 2:17, 2:22, 4:8, 5:4, criticism [2] - 58:19, Brunton's [1] - 44:15 66:27, 67:9 Commons [2] - 34:29, 5:17, 7:20, 11:13, 58:21 Buchanan [3] - 9:24, change [4] - 17:7, 18:1, 35:4 11:15, 12:20, 13:5, crooks [1] - 42:6 10:15, 11:5 18:5, 18:12 compared [2] - 9:20, 9:26 13:14, 13:15, 13:17, cross [8] - 1:9, 1:11, 4:20, building [6] - 6:6, 7:6, changed [3] - 28:4, comparing [2] - 29:12, 14:11, 18:17, 19:22, 4:24, 21:12, 48:22, 19:2, 55:9, 61:21, 61:24 31:20, 57:7 37:18 19:25, 24:19, 24:22, 62:17, 66:13 bullets [1] - 49:15 changes [17] - 13:14, complaining [1] - 29:2 29:17, 31:10, 32:5, CROSS [1] - 1:15 bunker [1] - 22:22 14:10, 14:20, 14:23, complaint [12] - 25:4, 32:9, 35:29, 39:15, cross-border [3] - 4:20, burning [1] - 37:17 15:9, 15:26, 24:27, 25:6, 26:15, 26:17, 39:18, 39:28, 41:13, 4:24, 21:12 business [2] - 35:21, 55:3 25:2, 26:14, 27:1, 27:3, 26:22, 26:24, 26:26, 42:15, 54:18, 55:17, cross-examination [2] - Butlins [1] - 22:1 27:13, 27:14, 28:25, 27:10, 28:9, 28:26, 56:18, 56:29, 56:30, 48:22, 66:13 BY [1] - 1:15 29:20, 31:7 36:16, 36:22 57:16, 57:21, 58:1, cross-examine [2] - 1:9, changing [1] - 50:7 complimentary [1] - 59:20, 61:20, 65:9 1:11 C character [1] - 13:3 44:11 correspondence [1] - 3:4 cross-examined [1] - charge [8] - 19:27, 27:9, compromise [1] - 52:8 correspondingly [1] - C77s [16] - 2:25, 3:4, 62:17 28:5, 28:8, 28:11, compromised [3] - 47:18, 5:27 9:30, 10:5, 10:10, CROSS-EXAMINED [1] - 28:13, 28:15, 55:26 52:6, 53:30 Corrigan [100] - 1:4, 1:18,
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd. Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 3
1:15 differently [1] - 40:1 14:10, 15:27, 16:26, entrance [1] - 55:5 experts [1] - 19:29 crown [3] - 5:19, 11:22, difficult [2] - 7:12, 48:23 17:21, 19:13, 19:24, environment [1] - 34:24 expiry [1] - 16:12 65:18 DILLON [9] - 1:3, 1:9, 22:7, 22:15, 22:16, episodes [1] - 47:5 explain [4] - 29:11, 38:8, Culhane [1] - 24:2 30:16, 65:29, 66:8, 24:27, 25:3, 25:4, equally [1] - 2:29 58:16, 58:18 cultivated [1] - 57:6 66:17, 66:21, 66:29, 26:14, 26:15, 26:23, equipment [1] - 22:27 explained [1] - 27:5 custody [2] - 21:1, 21:3 67:5 26:27, 26:29, 27:2, escape [2] - 7:25, 50:30 explanation [1] - 28:30 cut [1] - 33:23 direct [1] - 37:25 27:9, 27:11, 27:15, escaped [2] - 28:2, 53:11 explosion [1] - 22:29 CV [3] - 4:7, 4:10, 4:27 directly [1] - 30:8 28:3, 28:5, 28:8, 28:27, escort [3] - 5:8, 5:11, explosive [2] - 22:16, cyphers [1] - 52:25 disclosing [1] - 2:8 29:3, 29:20, 33:27, 55:21 22:28 discounted [1] - 3:5 37:13, 39:26, 40:16, escorts [5] - 4:30, 5:3, explosives [2] - 21:4, D discovery [2] - 23:3, 42:14, 42:27, 42:30, 5:5, 5:9, 5:10 22:9 23:12 47:14, 53:4, 54:14, essentially [2] - 26:23, exposed [3] - 31:25, 34:6, danger's [1] - 49:14 discussed [1] - 43:13 55:1, 63:19, 65:17 27:11 63:30 dangerous [3] - 3:16, discussion [2] - 44:27, during [14] - 1:29, 2:4, Europe [1] - 8:5 expressed [2] - 52:24, 3:19, 27:30 64:16 5:21, 11:29, 16:2, evasive [1] - 50:23 52:26 date [2] - 12:5, 45:19 25:18, 34:6, 43:8, disengaged [2] - 23:18, evening [4] - 21:1, 21:10, extensive [6] - 6:7, 7:7, day-to-day [3] - 2:7, 18:6, 24:7 43:24, 44:30, 46:1, 38:23, 54:30 18:8, 34:4, 34:8, 44:7 18:10 46:28, 49:27, 59:28 disgrace [2] - 10:10, 11:9 event [4] - 3:18, 15:26, extent [1] - 41:25 days [5] - 6:15, 31:18, duty [8] - 8:9, 16:13, disgraceful [2] - 61:13 23:16, 53:29 extradition [2] - 38:10, 32:1, 62:11, 62:13 19:13, 27:7, 33:1, dispute [1] - 62:15 event.. [1] - 52:3 38:23 deal [2] - 47:6, 47:8 38:13, 55:25 disrupting [1] - 37:2 events [2] - 33:17, 52:5 extraordinary [3] - 9:2, dealing [6] - 2:25, 17:18, distance [1] - 65:13 evidence [55] - 1:4, 2:4, 9:8, 9:10 18:2, 21:12, 54:11, distressed [1] - 38:28 E 3:8, 3:15, 5:14, 6:24, extremely [2] - 9:7, 22:5 63:12 [1] 6:27, 12:10, 13:9, extremes [1] - 48:27 ditch - 61:4 early [2] - 8:13, 10:19 dear [2] - 32:27, 49:26 [1] 14:15, 15:14, 15:29, doctor - 39:14 earth [1] - 53:6 decade [1] - 23:9 [1] 16:24, 19:12, 22:26, documents - 56:8 easiest [1] - 8:28 F decision [1] - 15:4 [5] 23:24, 24:2, 26:25, Dominic - 38:10, eastern [1] - 55:30 [2] f'ers [1] - 24:3 dedicated - 13:6, 38:15, 38:18, 38:22, 27:10, 28:25, 28:30, easy [3] - 13:1, 34:23, 29:18 29:9, 29:10, 29:11, face [1] - 13:27 39:11 36:5 dedication [3] - 13:5, fact [12] - 16:15, 28:5, Donaldson [2] - 34:28, 30:3, 30:27, 30:28, effect [3] - 14:23, 15:26, 13:12, 19:14 31:2, 31:19, 31:28, 33:30, 34:15, 42:8, 35:2 50:30 deeply [5] - 12:23, 12:24, 48:17, 51:21, 52:17, done [6] - 27:17, 28:16, 34:4, 34:8, 36:12, effective [3] - 25:14, 53:8, 54:25, 59:20, 16:14, 34:12, 46:27 34:17, 34:19, 34:25, 39:27, 41:10, 42:10, 25:18, 25:19 64:11 delivered [2] - 9:1, 35:4 60:9 46:14, 47:13, 49:29, effectively [3] - 8:15, Delvin [1] - 22:13 50:20, 51:7, 51:14, factor [1] - 6:16 door [1] - 56:4 25:17, 66:30 demeanour [1] - 40:2 factory [2] - 23:12, 43:6 dot [2] - 45:7, 45:11 52:21, 52:23, 53:14, efficiencies [1] - 9:14 den [1] - 24:24 facts [4] - 28:24, 29:12, dots [1] - 45:5 54:13, 55:12, 56:22, efficiency [2] - 9:6, 9:13 denigrate [1] - 44:18 53:16, 54:24 double [2] - 46:9, 46:20 57:27, 58:5, 60:25, efficient [1] - 9:7 depended [1] - 16:11 fail [1] - 36:3 doubt [3] - 30:24, 36:9, 62:11, 63:14, 65:5 eight [2] - 26:1, 39:12 failed [5] - 19:4, 20:24, describe [1] - 44:11 53:17 evolved [1] - 2:18 eighties [8] - 8:13, 9:15, described [1] - 24:24 exactly [10] - 6:16, 8:16, 24:9, 34:9, 60:5 down [14] - 13:1, 16:11, 9:18, 14:21, 23:10, description [5] - 13:18, 22:19, 22:22, 24:17, failing [1] - 20:14 19:7, 19:8, 19:27, 23:11, 31:7 13:19, 13:20, 13:25, 21:20, 41:8, 48:5, 33:17, 50:20, 52:2, fair [4] - 44:1, 44:3, 45:9, 24:25 either [3] - 15:5, 57:26, 53:15 58:8 48:15, 49:23, 50:10, 58:13 despite [2] - 59:20, 64:11 55:5, 55:26, 63:12 examination [4] - 48:22, fall [2] - 37:1, 59:18 elderly [1] - 22:11 family [2] - 32:22, 39:6 detail [3] - 33:25, 41:27, downstairs [2] - 54:17, 57:13, 58:21, 66:13 element [3] - 3:23, 20:24, 44:21 examine [2] - 1:9, 1:11 far [2] - 12:14, 33:1 55:18 58:26 farce [2] - 25:22, 26:9 details [1] - 12:10 draw [1] - 50:28 examined [1] - 62:17 elements [1] - 20:22 farm [4] - 22:4, 22:20, detective [8] - 1:24, 1:29, drawing [1] - 11:22 EXAMINED [1] - 1:15 eleven [10] - 10:17, 10:19, 2:2, 5:2, 16:30, 18:27, example [5] - 4:16, 4:28, 22:21 drink [3] - 36:29, 37:10, 10:26, 11:9, 62:3, 62:6, 25:30, 28:12 9:29, 23:26, 23:29 farmer [1] - 46:25 59:11 67:9 [10] fault [2] - 28:23, 29:2 Detective - 5:8, 29:3, Drogheda [2] - 21:5, 41:9 exasperated [1] - 21:9 emerging [1] - 53:16 29:6, 33:26, 39:10, fear [4] - 35:1, 35:29, dropped [5] - 9:18, 9:25, except [1] - 4:3 emphasis [3] - 18:13, 42:26, 42:30, 47:28, excess [1] - 19:28 52:16, 52:26 9:26, 9:29, 23:2 57:9, 57:10 54:22, 55:1 feared [2] - 34:14, 35:1 drove [3] - 21:29, 47:19, exchange [2] - 5:22, 44:4 emphatic [1] - 44:19 detectives [12] - 14:11, 55:30 exchanges [1] - 43:29 fearful [1] - 38:24 15:21, 16:29, 18:21, employment [1] - 14:17 Dublin [6] - 5:7, 22:1, excuse [1] - 59:11 February [1] - 41:12 en [1] - 21:7 19:17, 25:21, 25:23, 22:14, 38:22, 40:17, execute [1] - 39:3 fed [1] - 59:25 encouragement [1] - 9:5 42:14, 53:22, 63:15, 42:28 exemplary [1] - 54:12 feed [1] - 60:20 63:22, 64:13 end [5] - 9:7, 10:20, 19:6, Dublin-Belfast [1] - 22:1 expect [3] - 34:15, 36:30, feeding [1] - 64:1 devising [1] - 34:1 19:22, 20:28 dump [4] - 22:16, 22:27, 58:12 felt [2] - 3:12, 15:16 ended [2] - 65:9, 65:12 died [1] - 9:15 22:29, 23:1 experience [7] - 6:3, Fergus [1] - 38:20 difference [4] - 38:1, engaged [3] - 14:27, dumped [1] - 58:27 9:28, 11:19, 11:25, feverishly [1] - 14:26 38:2, 38:3, 38:4 57:13, 61:1 Dundalk [59] - 1:23, 7:18, 32:13, 38:27, 45:7 field [2] - 11:20, 11:24 engagement [1] - 42:5 different [11] - 6:22, 8:8, 7:28, 8:1, 8:8, 8:14, experienced [2] - 21:12, fight [5] - 2:5, 35:8, ensure [1] - 34:17 18:13, 33:20, 40:11, 8:17, 8:18, 8:19, 8:21, 51:17 37:11, 37:23, 61:28 ensured [1] - 4:4 41:24, 43:5, 44:13, 8:23, 11:12, 11:23, expertise [3] - 5:16, fighting [2] - 35:11, 37:1 entire [1] - 17:3 54:27, 63:6 12:14, 13:14, 13:16, 16:23, 25:26 figure [1] - 14:16
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd. Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 4 file [2] - 49:6, 50:15 future [1] - 14:16 handicaps [1] - 12:11 21:15, 21:29 20:16, 24:9, 33:21, filed [1] - 64:12 handle [1] - 8:10 33:24, 33:25, 40:12, filled [1] - 46:18 G handler [1] - 18:27 I 43:1, 43:7, 43:29, filling [1] - 45:5 handling [1] - 18:29 43:30, 44:4, 44:6, gap [1] - 41:28 i.e [1] - 26:6 final [1] - 65:4 hang [1] - 55:6 44:23, 46:5, 46:15, Garda [24] - 4:11, 11:16, ID [1] - 21:16 finance [1] - 15:3 Hannas [1] - 9:23 51:15, 51:26, 54:9, 12:10, 20:8, 20:13, identify [6] - 31:14, 32:2, financially [1] - 15:27 happy [2] - 26:14, 59:29 56:18, 57:4, 57:11, 21:16, 25:4, 25:16, 32:14, 32:25, 34:5, 34:9 fine [1] - 35:19 hard [3] - 18:28, 43:21, 57:18, 59:3, 59:7, 26:15, 26:22, 26:23, identifying [1] - 17:25 finish [2] - 12:28, 64:22 57:25 59:10, 60:5, 60:15, 26:26, 26:29, 27:6, identities [1] - 57:30 finished [2] - 55:3, 65:15 harder [1] - 22:23 61:19, 63:18, 63:22, 27:9, 27:11, 28:27, identity [1] - 25:12 64:14 Finucane [1] - 34:26 Harnden [1] - 41:10 29:13, 40:4, 44:23, ignored [1] - 61:14 INLA [2] - 39:15, 39:18 fire [1] - 49:16 Harp [1] - 56:1 46:29, 60:5, 67:1 imagine [3] - 36:25, 45:2, innocently [1] - 38:12 first [8] - 5:24, 7:13, hassle [2] - 38:9, 42:13 garda [1] - 2:2 66:4 14:18, 14:20, 14:30, haven [2] - 8:20, 64:8 input [1] - 61:5 Gardaí [3] - 18:12, 27:25, immediate [1] - 3:9 20:24, 53:12, 62:15 hazy [1] - 54:23 insert [1] - 29:1 38:21 immediately [1] - 54:6 fit [1] - 30:21 head [6] - 5:2, 13:1, insignificant [1] - 2:28 Garrett [1] - 24:30 impeded [2] - 20:7, 20:13 FITZGERALD [1] - 66:23 26:17, 26:29, 29:3, 29:6 insisted [1] - 56:14 gate [2] - 55:27, 56:3 impending [1] - 15:18 Fitzgerald [4] - 25:1, headed [1] - 21:13 insistence [1] - 24:28 gates [1] - 56:3 implementation [1] - 66:21, 66:27, 67:1 heading [1] - 22:3 inspector [2] - 28:13, gather [2] - 12:16, 52:27 27:16 five [9] - 8:11, 21:1, Headquarters [1] - 40:18 28:20 gatherer [2] - 10:21, imply [1] - 29:1 33:30, 34:20, 34:21, health [2] - 6:15, 54:25 Inspector [1] - 55:24 10:25 important [12] - 2:29, 3:6, 36:8, 50:4, 64:24, 64:26 hear [1] - 12:12 instructions [1] - 44:6 gathering [5] - 3:28, 10:7, 3:28, 4:2, 7:30, 16:15, fleet [2] - 27:6, 50:4 heard [6] - 24:15, 37:6, insults [1] - 31:10 10:22, 20:23, 28:15 16:16, 17:8, 18:23, flow [2] - 20:8, 20:13 52:27, 57:26, 65:29, integrity [1] - 31:10 general [10] - 25:5, 26:28, 19:12, 44:18, 50:27 foe [1] - 11:29 65:30 intelligence [42] - 2:21, 42:3, 57:2, 57:3, 58:3, impose [1] - 27:4 following [3] - 52:3, 60:3, heavier [1] - 27:7 2:24, 2:26, 2:27, 3:9, 63:26, 63:27, 64:6, impression [3] - 40:3, 66:8 heavily [1] - 28:21 3:28, 3:29, 3:30, 9:11, 64:16 40:6, 40:14 10:7, 10:21, 10:22, FOLLOWS [3] - 1:1, 1:16, held [1] - 31:17 generations [1] - 8:21 incident [8] - 33:18, 10:25, 11:20, 11:24, 65:1 help [4] - 6:18, 26:4, gentleman [1] - 49:28 33:22, 34:6, 36:16, 12:6, 12:17, 19:24, foot [1] - 45:26 43:26, 55:16 Gethins [1] - 33:17 47:13, 49:6, 49:8, 51:1 19:27, 20:13, 20:23, force [9] - 20:15, 29:8, helping [1] - 16:29 Giblin [4] - 22:25, 23:20, incidentally [2] - 38:11, 21:15, 25:28, 26:9, 35:13, 35:15, 36:4, here' [1] - 47:21 23:22, 23:23 49:25 28:15, 41:19, 42:17, 46:13, 46:17, 63:11 Hiace [1] - 33:29 Gibsons [1] - 9:22 incidents [1] - 33:22 43:3, 43:10, 45:22, forefront [3] - 35:8, high [4] - 10:21, 10:24, gift [1] - 60:4 incitement [1] - 35:3 45:23, 46:30, 47:1, 37:11, 37:23 21:6, 49:28 given [20] - 2:4, 3:8, 3:11, include [1] - 4:27 57:2, 57:3, 59:2, 59:6, forensic [1] - 58:21 High [1] - 38:22 3:14, 6:26, 12:10, included [1] - 4:10 59:15, 59:21 form [1] - 61:20 high-grade [1] - 21:6 12:15, 12:21, 16:24, including [3] - 39:7, intelligence-gatherer [2] formulated [1] - 25:3 high-performance [2] - 30:3, 31:2, 32:13, 41:23, 43:5 - 10:21, 10:25 fortnight [2] - 37:16, 38:6 10:21, 10:24 36:12, 46:14, 51:29, incorrect [1] - 35:23 intend [1] - 9:3 forty [3] - 14:14, 15:7, highly [2] - 47:26, 51:17 51:30, 62:11, 64:4 increase [5] - 9:6, 9:12, intent [1] - 3:27 15:10 hijack [2] - 53:2, 53:17 glean [5] - 3:8, 3:11, 40:6, 15:6, 15:7 interconnecting [1] - four [11] - 8:11, 15:13, hijacking [3] - 50:16, 43:1, 43:30 increased [2] - 14:14, 56:4 16:20, 24:15, 25:25, 50:18, 50:20 gleaned [4] - 2:21, 18:16, 15:9 interest [3] - 6:3, 6:6, 7:6 26:6, 36:25, 41:18, hindsight [2] - 39:29, 63:18, 65:19 indeed [5] - 1:13, 12:9, interested [4] - 21:19, 41:28, 65:9, 65:20 40:1 God [2] - 18:22, 38:7 52:16, 66:3, 67:7 40:12, 40:14, 51:5 four-year [1] - 41:28 hit [2] - 15:27, 27:13 golf [1] - 12:11 indicate [2] - 48:17, 51:21 interfere [1] - 37:27 Francie [2] - 31:11, 35:22 hold [2] - 18:30, 19:21 gossip [4] - 42:3, 42:4, indicated [1] - 54:20 interfered [1] - 37:26 fraudsters [1] - 42:6 holding [1] - 39:11 57:24, 64:8 indiscretions [1] - 58:28 intermittently [1] - 50:5 free [1] - 30:29 holiday [1] - 22:1 Government [4] - 14:26, indispensable [3] - 6:1, interpretation [2] - 3:21, frequently [1] - 31:22 home [6] - 8:24, 38:12, 15:2, 15:4, 27:8 13:29, 14:19 15:19 friary [1] - 39:12 38:16, 39:14, 65:13, grade [1] - 21:6 indispensable' [3] - 14:2, interrogating [1] - 31:20 Friday [3] - 21:1, 21:10, 65:21 grain [1] - 64:9 14:4, 14:6 interrogators [2] - 31:24, 67:5 hope [2] - 1:20, 43:26 great [5] - 6:5, 7:5, 29:17, individual [6] - 21:10, 31:29 friend [3] - 34:30, 46:23, horrific [1] - 9:27 46:19, 46:25 21:28, 34:27, 37:15, interrupt [2] - 30:6, 30:16 54:12 hotel [1] - 41:8 greatly [1] - 16:12 49:25, 56:2 interview [3] - 21:14, Friend [1] - 30:30 hour [4] - 21:18, 66:5, ground [2] - 15:21, 25:10 individuals [13] - 57:28, 21:25 friends [2] - 49:26 66:6 guard [1] - 35:30 57:30, 58:16, 59:9, intimate [1] - 11:16 frightening [1] - 52:5 hours [2] - 21:22, 31:23 guards [5] - 22:11, 43:8, 59:13, 59:14, 59:18, introduce [1] - 14:28 full [4] - 8:7, 8:9, 54:27, house [6] - 34:13, 37:18, 43:20, 44:30, 45:18 59:24, 60:21, 60:30, introduced [1] - 48:1 59:4 38:17, 39:8, 41:7 guy [1] - 5:25 61:6, 63:24, 64:13 invariably [2] - 7:30, full-time [2] - 8:7, 8:9 House [2] - 34:29, 35:3 ineffective [5] - 26:18, 44:14 fully [3] - 5:12, 50:6, 61:1 houses [3] - 4:22, 8:8, H 26:19, 26:20, 28:4, 28:7 investigate [1] - 52:8 function [2] - 28:19, 16:18 influence [1] - 42:30 investigating [1] - 40:20 45:21 hail [1] - 49:16 huge [1] - 8:20 informant [1] - 52:29 investigation [4] - 15:19, functions [1] - 4:8 half [1] - 22:28 human [1] - 60:1 informants [1] - 57:15 63:23, 63:26, 63:27 furthermore [2] - 5:19, halt [1] - 23:14 hundred [1] - 8:11 information [35] - 3:11, involved [6] - 28:15, 47:23 handed [1] - 47:11 Hynes [4] - 20:30, 21:11, 12:11, 20:3, 20:8, 35:21, 38:11, 40:20,
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd. Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 5
50:22, 51:8 labouring [1] - 44:21 lookout [1] - 22:8 46:13, 46:17, 52:30, 47:5, 54:13, 56:21 IRA [12] - 6:8, 7:8, 17:5, ladder [1] - 2:19 looks [1] - 26:13 55:20 moved [1] - 2:18 25:5, 26:28, 30:8, 34:5, lads [1] - 25:30 lost [2] - 30:26, 32:27 members [11] - 3:21, movement [1] - 47:27 34:9, 39:9, 50:6, 56:27, Lager [1] - 56:1 Louth [1] - 46:25 3:30, 7:30, 17:21, movements [1] - 8:11 57:7 Land [1] - 27:7 lowest [1] - 61:19 17:23, 36:20, 50:6, moving [6] - 5:11, 8:8, Ireland [5] - 4:1, 8:24, land [1] - 22:5 Lurgangreen [1] - 22:14 53:22, 54:1, 56:7, 63:11 8:11, 22:8, 50:5, 61:2 38:19, 45:25, 45:26 late [5] - 23:7, 31:7, luxury [1] - 29:29 membership [1] - 49:10 MR [29] - 1:3, 1:9, 1:13, Irish [5] - 13:13, 14:22, 34:26, 38:9, 39:1 men [5] - 8:29, 22:26, 1:15, 1:18, 3:6, 7:2, 15:1, 25:1, 31:8 law [1] - 46:23 M 31:28, 56:9, 65:16 7:18, 17:12, 17:14, isolated [1] - 3:24 laws [1] - 35:15 men's [1] - 12:26 17:17, 17:23, 30:6, machine [1] - 41:19 issue [6] - 56:17, 56:21, lead [2] - 1:24, 1:29 mental [4] - 6:7, 7:7, 34:4, 30:16, 30:24, 31:6, machinery [1] - 42:18 56:23, 58:14, 59:13, leading [2] - 36:21, 54:21 34:8 64:20, 64:26, 65:3, main [1] - 21:30 65:4 leak [1] - 40:19 mentioned [3] - 23:20, 65:24, 65:29, 66:3, maintain [1] - 59:27 issued [2] - 56:28, 58:6 leaked [1] - 34:30 23:22, 38:14 66:8, 66:17, 66:19, maintained [1] - 19:9 issues [2] - 6:15, 63:25 learn [1] - 26:1 met [7] - 41:8, 43:13, 66:21, 66:29, 67:3, 67:7 major [2] - 6:16, 14:27 item [1] - 3:4 Learned [1] - 30:30 47:14, 47:24, 47:29, MS [1] - 66:23 majority [2] - 4:14, 5:4 itself [2] - 61:27, 66:4 learned [2] - 43:25, 57:17 52:30, 54:20 Mulvenna [1] - 66:29 man [23] - 5:15, 5:24, least [2] - 11:6, 56:11 methodology [1] - 2:8 murder [4] - 11:7, 60:18, 13:7, 18:7, 18:9, 20:29, J leave [12] - 1:27, 14:9, mid [3] - 14:21, 23:10, 60:28, 64:10 21:17, 43:8, 44:22, 21:3, 21:24, 22:7, 23:11 murdered [6] - 10:15, Jeffrey [1] - 35:2 44:28, 44:30, 46:29, 22:11, 22:17, 23:3, mid-eighties [3] - 14:21, 46:1, 60:30, 61:9, jewel [3] - 5:19, 11:22, 55:5, 55:21, 65:4 26:29, 38:13, 38:16, 23:10, 23:11 65:17, 65:21 65:18 38:21, 38:26, 38:27, leaving [3] - 3:25, 20:15, midst [1] - 36:8 murders [3] - 9:25, 11:5, job [4] - 8:7, 13:12, 19:14, 49:14, 50:23, 53:6, 65:17 might [3] - 44:8, 44:26, 65:7 29:18 56:15, 65:19 led [3] - 2:2, 41:30, 56:4 67:5 must [1] - 18:29 John [5] - 6:2, 11:7, man's [2] - 50:27, 51:6 left [4] - 21:17, 22:2, 51:4, miles [3] - 34:20, 34:21, 56:22, 56:26 management [1] - 18:12 55:9 36:8 N judiciary [2] - 4:1, 45:24 manned [1] - 28:21 less [2] - 21:26, 66:5 military [5] - 14:29, 27:20, JULY [2] - 1:1, 67:11 manning [1] - 29:7 nailed [1] - 39:9 letting [2] - 19:7, 19:8 27:22, 28:16 June [2] - 1:23, 1:24 March [1] - 65:6 name [4] - 1:18, 33:26, levels [2] - 9:6, 9:9 military-type [1] - 14:29 jurisdiction [5] - 4:3, Margaret [2] - 24:29, 27:4 34:30, 46:25 liable [1] - 50:7 mind [7] - 6:6, 7:6, 46:22, 4:21, 4:25, 45:24, 61:3 Mark [1] - 1:18 named [2] - 35:3, 59:9 life [16] - 3:26, 12:25, 53:10, 54:6, 60:19, namely [1] - 5:23 12:30, 18:11, 34:15, material [1] - 22:28 63:25 names [4] - 32:17, 60:20, K 38:29, 48:18, 48:25, matter [6] - 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36:3 mistake [1] - 39:4 kidnapping [3] - 31:11, 66:14, 67:5 McCann's [2] - 13:19, mixture [2] - 2:12, 2:13 42:21, 42:29 literally [1] - 21:8 13:25 needed [3] - 45:11, 45:12 live [4] - 34:16, 34:20, models [1] - 27:7 kids [2] - 34:22, 39:12 needs [1] - 59:3 McGlinchey [6] - 38:15, moment [2] - 38:26, kill [1] - 35:3 34:21, 35:28 38:18, 38:22, 39:11, never [15] - 4:2, 14:2, lived [3] - 16:27, 17:26, 64:18 killed [3] - 9:22, 9:23, 39:15, 39:18 15:18, 15:29, 16:21, 35:5 Monday [2] - 21:2, 21:10 33:30 16:22, 19:15, 27:29, McGlinchey's [1] - 38:10 money [1] - 5:9 Killeen [1] - 9:23 lives [10] - 12:25, 12:26, meal [1] - 38:9 28:17, 36:16, 38:23, 13:7, 13:8, 20:18, monies [1] - 4:28 Kilnasaggart [2] - 9:24, 52:10, 52:26, 59:29, 20:27, 23:3, 47:6, mean [10] - 8:29, 16:28, monitoring [2] - 8:7, 11:6 64:12 48:28, 51:24 19:28, 26:30, 49:9, 28:11 kinds [1] - 19:28 51:11, 51:28, 53:25, new [24] - 5:30, 14:11, living [1] - 36:7 month [6] - 10:19, 10:27, knocked [1] - 39:8 55:22, 65:30 14:16, 16:25, 16:26, load [1] - 21:3 10:28, 11:1, 25:30, knowing [1] - 40:12 means [2] - 9:3, 27:22 16:29, 17:6, 17:15, local [1] - 39:12 37:15 knowledge [11] - 4:10, meant [2] - 4:24, 15:6 17:25, 18:19, 18:20, locate [1] - 61:2 months [4] - 10:5, 16:13, 4:27, 11:16, 12:21, 18:24, 18:27, 19:4, Meath [2] - 22:14, 43:6 62:3, 62:6 17:3, 17:8, 17:14, location [4] - 7:19, 22:4, 20:25, 23:18, 24:11, meet [6] - 3:18, 44:26, morning [4] - 1:20, 21:2, 32:14, 60:19, 61:8, 50:29, 61:2 24:12, 24:16, 24:18, 47:15, 54:19, 56:12, 21:10, 67:9 62:19 locked [1] - 56:2 24:21, 25:21 62:26 mortars [1] - 33:29 known [4] - 4:17, 5:25, logging [1] - 33:29 meeting [8] - 2:9, 3:26, Newmarket [1] - 38:20 logic [2] - 63:3, 63:4 most [9] - 2:28, 4:2, 6:7, 38:18, 42:18 16:19, 32:13, 42:8, Newmarket-on-Fergus lonely [1] - 36:5 7:7, 16:15, 18:23, 34:4, knows [2] - 38:7, 66:9 48:8, 49:27, 52:5 [1] - 38:20 look [3] - 15:8, 20:24, 34:8, 50:26 member [12] - 4:3, 18:2, Newry [4] - 20:29, 21:13, 24:26 motivate [2] - 5:26, 5:27 L 20:27, 21:17, 35:13, 21:14, 34:1 looking [2] - 9:30, 28:20 motivated [1] - 45:25 35:14, 36:21, 45:27, news [1] - 65:6 label [2] - 13:29, 13:30 move [5] - 11:29, 31:11,
Doyle Court Reporters Ltd. Smithwick Tribunal - 16 July 2012 - Day 113 6 next [7] - 36:23, 36:25, officer's [1] - 53:10 12:2, 24:29, 47:17, personally [2] - 2:25, 43:29, 54:1 57:9, 66:1, 66:9, 66:12, officers [2] - 30:26, 33:30 47:23, 48:5, 48:15, 28:10 posters [2] - 39:20, 39:21 66:30 officers' [1] - 47:6 51:10, 54:29, 56:25 personnel [10] - 6:8, 7:8, potential [3] - 57:14, night [4] - 36:23, 36:25, often [2] - 5:20, 18:5 paid [1] - 32:30 9:10, 15:6, 15:7, 17:5, 57:15, 61:25 38:30, 60:25 Oliver [1] - 46:1 paintings [7] - 40:19, 18:13, 31:19, 34:5, 34:9 poured [2] - 36:13, 38:5 nine [2] - 2:2, 39:12 Oliver's [1] - 46:23 40:21, 40:25, 41:11, persons [5] - 5:10, 5:11, pouring [2] - 36:29, 37:10 nobody [6] - 14:19, 37:4, ON [1] - 1:1 41:14, 41:18, 41:28 33:20, 56:28, 58:6 powers [1] - 34:14 37:27, 60:11, 64:3 one [42] - 2:8, 3:8, 3:21, panic [1] - 39:13 phone [1] - 15:1 practically [1] - 23:13 Noel.. [1] - 42:25 8:3, 10:5, 10:19, 10:22, papers [1] - 46:27 photograph [1] - 39:11 precautions [1] - 4:5 Nolan [6] - 5:22, 5:24, 10:27, 10:28, 11:1, parcel [2] - 18:3, 58:30 photographs [3] - 22:21, predecessor [1] - 30:26 6:2, 15:29, 16:22 11:19, 15:13, 16:11, pardon [9] - 23:28, 26:5, 39:7, 39:9 predominantly [1] - 2:14 non [2] - 25:18, 25:19 18:3, 20:22, 25:12, 33:5, 33:12, 39:24, pick [3] - 10:14, 32:17 premises [1] - 50:12 non-effective [2] - 25:18, 25:16, 26:13, 32:2, 43:17, 44:2, 59:5, 62:14 picking [3] - 10:13, 29:21, Prenty [1] - 24:2 25:19 33:22, 33:30, 35:15, park [1] - 56:15 31:8 present [1] - 56:8 none [1] - 28:18 36:21, 36:25, 37:1, parked [1] - 56:1 picture [8] - 43:28, 44:5, presently [1] - 2:25 noon [2] - 66:15, 66:17 38:14, 49:25, 54:30, parliamentary [1] - 34:27 44:16, 44:24, 44:25, press [1] - 56:9 normal [2] - 10:26, 38:4 56:7, 56:27, 57:8, 57:9, part [11] - 2:28, 2:29, 46:18, 59:4, 61:20 previous [5] - 18:15, North [6] - 4:28, 7:25, 58:5, 59:29, 64:5, 64:6, 4:10, 18:3, 18:23, piece [2] - 22:5, 59:15 22:7, 47:25, 47:29, 16:17, 23:1, 45:26, 64:18, 64:21, 64:22, 28:16, 42:10, 58:30, pieces [2] - 43:9, 43:10 56:13 60:13 65:4 59:10, 63:23, 63:26 pinpoint [1] - 22:22 previously [2] - 21:5, Northern [3] - 4:1, 8:23, one-sided [1] - 25:12 particular [7] - 27:28, pinpointed [1] - 64:3 65:5 45:25 one-to-one [1] - 18:3 30:29, 33:22, 43:12, pint [4] - 37:22, 37:30, price [1] - 32:30 northern [3] - 8:21, ones [1] - 4:25 45:6, 54:30, 57:9 38:5, 39:27 Prime [1] - 24:30 32:10, 32:11 ongoing [12] - 4:11, 7:26, particulars [1] - 21:30 pints [4] - 36:13, 36:23, principles [1] - 49:28 note [1] - 51:2 7:28, 25:3, 25:6, 26:15, pass [7] - 20:5, 20:6, 36:25, 36:27 priority [1] - 51:6 notes [1] - 51:5 26:26, 27:10, 28:26, 20:14, 22:1, 24:9, 43:7, PIRA [23] - 11:29, 12:22, problem [6] - 25:11, 27:2, nothing [11] - 9:16, 10:7, 44:27, 52:28, 64:7 44:4 29:18, 29:21, 29:22, 27:18, 27:22, 39:30, 13:1, 25:28, 26:10, open [1] - 55:27 passed [4] - 23:5, 43:9, 31:15, 37:3, 37:26, 41:5 29:6, 29:14, 54:2, operate [2] - 25:19, 27:24 43:10, 46:4 37:27, 39:20, 41:19, proceed [2] - 66:13, 58:19, 60:9 operated [1] - 27:15 passing [6] - 17:10, 41:24, 41:30, 42:17, 66:23 notice [1] - 14:20 operation [4] - 14:29, 17:14, 20:7, 20:16, 49:10, 52:17, 52:30, process [2] - 24:8, 44:3 notified [1] - 5:3 25:15, 28:16, 31:30 46:15, 46:30 53:17, 53:22, 54:1, produced [3] - 11:1, number [9] - 1:19, 3:15, operations [6] - 4:11, Pat [1] - 34:26 61:27, 62:21, 62:27 21:16, 62:20 6:15, 7:19, 9:10, 9:26, 4:14, 8:5, 8:6, 11:17, Patrick's [2] - 38:12, place [4] - 36:5, 53:12, producing [1] - 19:24 10:27, 16:30, 62:15 43:4 38:30 55:11, 56:6 professional [1] - 12:3 numbers [7] - 9:11, 9:12, operator [2] - 21:12 patrols [2] - 29:13, 29:14 placed [2] - 11:24, 50:30 prosecute [7] - 36:29, 9:13, 15:9, 21:26, opinion [3] - 18:15, 25:9, pedaled [1] - 41:25 places [1] - 16:18 37:10, 37:19, 37:22, 25:24, 51:2 52:19 pending [1] - 55:28 planned [4] - 4:16, 4:17, 37:30, 38:6, 39:26 numerous [8] - 6:4, 7:21, opportunity [2] - 13:2, people [41] - 3:16, 3:19, 4:20, 50:21 prosecuted [3] - 39:29, 7:22, 11:6, 30:2, 56:28, 30:12 3:27, 3:30, 8:11, 8:22, plans [1] - 14:17 49:8, 49:9 57:28, 58:6 opted [2] - 19:5, 19:19 12:4, 18:14, 31:14, play [1] - 14:20 protection [4] - 3:25, order [4] - 3:11, 14:1, 34:6, 34:10, 35:2, pleaded [1] - 32:28 3:30, 20:23, 45:23 O 45:10, 59:3 36:10, 36:18, 41:24, pleasure [1] - 49:26 prove [1] - 52:12 organisation [2] - 8:4, 43:21, 44:13, 50:22, point [16] - 3:6, 16:16, proved [1] - 52:11 O'CALLAGHAN [3] - 30:25 51:8, 55:7, 56:7, 57:18, 17:29, 22:20, 35:28, provide [7] - 15:3, 32:20, 17:12, 17:17, 30:6 organisations [4] - 2:19, 58:2, 58:8, 58:23, 39:23, 39:25, 42:29, 33:14, 33:16, 35:20, o'clock [6] - 21:2, 56:10, 3:22, 7:30, 36:20 58:27, 60:8, 60:19, 44:12, 44:19, 47:20, 60:4, 63:15 64:22, 65:9, 65:20, 67:9 61:13, 61:18, 61:26, origin [1] - 5:7 48:8, 52:19, 53:8, provided [2] - 44:22, O'Dea [1] - 12:15 otherwise [1] - 49:4 62:24, 62:25, 63:7, 64:21, 66:9 61:19 obligation [1] - 29:30 63:8, 63:10, 63:30 output [1] - 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