il002 CONGRESSIO JAL RECORD-HO SE.·, J NU.A.RY 4 ' The joint re olution was reported to the Senate without INDIAN .APPROPRIATION BlLL. amendment, ordered to be engrossed for a third reading, read l\Ir. STEPHE:NS of Texas. Mr. Speaker, I mo>e that the the thlrcl time, and passed. House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on DEATH OF BEPRESENTATI'\'E WILLIAM W. WEDE)-IE1..'"ER. the state of the Union for the further consi
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[From the entury :Magazine, Nov., 1912.] instead of to those protected from such competition, and this would .A. WAY OUT OF TH.El CA...'IAL BLU~WER. be no more of a violation of the tl'eaty than the present act . Second. The Pana.ma bill admits . free oi duty foreign-built ships Anyone who knows how little consideration is given to the prepara and shipbuilding material when used in the foreign trade. Already tion of political platforms can readily understand how both the Demo we hear complaints that this has caused the loss of millions and cratic and the Progressive Parties were "committed" to the blunder will. mean ruin to American shipbuilders. That may not be true, of advocating the exemption of our coastwise shipping from the tolls or. if true it may be worth the sacrifice. We are not arguing that to be charged for the use of the Panama Canal. It is this sort of in pomt now. But we do say that uch a sudden and unpremeditated side arrangement of party policies-which usually, in the last hours of change in o'ur protective system should not be forced through on a fatigue, restlessness, and excitement, there is never time to discuss on rider to a worthy bill having quite another object. their merits-that bas cast discredit on platforms and has justified Third. A like objection applies to the radical and extraneous legis many a candidate in disregarding or modifying a given "plank." The lation of the bill, such as that empowering the Interstate Commerce over·whelming judgment of our people, as reflected in the press, that Commi sion to determine whether or not the ownership by any rail nothing is so important to us as a strict observance of our plighted ~·oad of a steamsh~p li1;le is prejudicial to. public interest and to compel faith-just as nothing is so important to a merchant as his credit if necessary the d1vestmg of the steamship holdings. Such a measure, and r eputation for honorable dealing-shows how easy it is for half a whether wise ot· unwise, affecting as it does the ferryboats of New dozen men in a hotel parlor, at the suggestion of some "good fellow," York and San Francisco Harbors, the passenger steamers of Long Island to lead a convention to the indorsement of a disastl'ous policy. ~nd Pu.get Sounds, ~d t~e shipping of the Great Lakes, has no business To claim that we ~ave not broken our pledge that there shall be no m a bill stated by its title to be concerned only with " the opening, discrimination in the tolls and conditions when we thus favor our own maintenance, projection, and operation of the Panama Canal and the coastwise trade, as against that of Canada, Mexico, and Colombia. sanitation and government of the Canal Zone." each with an Atlantic and a Pacific coast-simply does not rise to the . Fourth. This discrimination in tolls in favor of our own ships is dignity of a quibble. Already, by misrepresentation of the sense of Just what we protested against as unfair and put a stop to when it fair dealing which pervades American commercial life, incalculable was. a question of canals on the territory of Canada and New Granada. injury has been done to our standing abroad-an injury which can not Fifth. Our treaty with Great Britain expressly prohibits such dis be measured in money. After all our honorable diplomacy-the return crim~atio~, as is shown by the fact that when the treaty was under of the Boxer indemnity, the open-door policy in the Far East, and the consideration the Senate voted specifically against an amendment strict obser1ance of our promise to withdraw from Cuba, which foreign permitting such discrimination. It sneerers at America said we never would observe, " and never meant to . Sixth. Pr~sident Ta~t's recommendation to Congress that the ques observe "-it is shameful to have to drop to a lower plane of national tion of the rnterpretation of the treaty be referred for decision not to conduct. The Hague Court, but to our own Supreme Com-t. As if our cup of humiliation were not already full, it is argued that we are at liberty to refuse to submit the question of the breach of the Panama treaty to The Hague Tribunal if Great Britain should make [From the New York World.] the appeal. "Nicht zwei dumme streiche fur eins " (Not two stupid A SURREPTITIOUS SUBSIDY. strokes for one), say!? Lessing's character in " l\linna von Barnhelm." Unless we desire to become the welcher of the nations, it is time that 'l'he proposal to subsidize Amei;icau shipping, though often and elo the good faith of the people should find an adequate expre sion in the quently urged, has. never met with the approval of the people and good faith of the Government. All the money saved (to whom?) in Senators b~ve no right tguise. What is still ~or e, tolls in a hundred years by the exemption could not compensate for the t~ey have mtroduced it m such a way as plainly to violate our treaty loss in money-not to reckon honor-which will result from the loss with England. The Senators who advocated it admitted that if the of ct·edit and of great commercial opportunities all over the world. A matter were brought before The Hague Court it would inevitably be sh·ange way, indeed, to promote American commerce. decided aga~st !JS, and we should then }?ave to pay back the tolls col But there remains for us another chance-or wiU, if Great Britain lected from foreign .vessels in the meantime, say 10 years or so; that shall a little lon~er pursue her friendly and forbearing course of wait ish whether the action taken by the Senate be right or wrong it is ing for our public opinion to assert itself. The coastwise exemption w at all the other nations of the world would call wrong. But' Sena should be repealed. And, our obligations aside, why should we enter tor CuM:urns says that we will never consent to submit the question upon a policy of subsidizing our ships just at the time when apparently to such a tribunal ; that there is but one tribunal to settle such a we are giving up the policy of subsidizing our manufactures? Are we 9uestion-the arbit~·ame.nt of war. In saying this Senator CUl\I:UINS never· to get away from the inequality of privilege that has already i advocating the v1olahon not only of the Ilay-Pauncefote treaty but corrupted the sources of government by the "vicious circle," creating what is worse, of all our arbitration treaties. ' ' and feeding by legislation agencies whose natural interest it thus be comes to destroy the principle of equality? Why subsidize ships any [Editorial from the Louisville Courier .Journal, Dec. 1G, 1912.] more than subsidize railways or newspapers or authorship? But if we must s ubsidize our ships, let it be done outright, in bills for that pur TH.El LOXG A:XD THE SIIORT OF IT. pose, and not through the violation of the plain words of a solemn The exemption of the coastwise trade of the United States from tolls treaty. through the Panama Canal was, to begin with, flagrant and di honest Not only should the exemption be repealed, but, if we are to recover a violation of the treaty obligations of the Nation, and, to end with' the ground that has been lost, it should be done in the first week of the a gigantic and perpetual subsidy to a Shipping Trust quite as objection~ December session of Congress. We feel sure that President Taft, able as the Sugar Trust or the Steel Trust. whose misgivings tinctured his message of assent, now that the canal The act of Congress wa.s passed in the teeth of a presidential cam bill has provided for a modus operandi would not interpose bis veto to paign. '!'he Shipping Trust could afford to contribute a million of the sober second thought of Congress. If the repeal is not accomplished, money to each party for its support. Mr. Taft, a candidate for Presi and if we refuse the appeal to The Ilague, the great cause of arbitra dent, signed the bill. Who, if not Perkins, of the Harvester 'l'l'llst in tion-the substitute for war-will be set back for unreckonable years. community of interest, worked the Roosevelt end of it we know not; 'but And it is the championship of arbitration, together with his far-sighted the Democratic end of it was worked by Lewis Nixon, once chief of and consistent defense and extension of the merit system, which will •.rammany Hall and now head of the Crescent Shipyard, of Eliza give the President bis highest claim to the respect of posterity. The beth, N ..J. object of the latter is to keep politicians from gambling with the re ·uch Members of Congress as gave any reflection to the votes they sources of office; the object of the former ls to prevent Governments cast in its favor looked to a certain anti-English feeling, which, in the from gambling with the lives of men. la t equation, would carry with it the German vote and the Irish vote, Should the repeal not be promptly made, it will become the duty not stopping to inquire where the spoliation of the Nation's honor and of the people to organize to bring it about. We much mistake the tem the people's money might lead-relying upon indirection and subterfuge pet· of the country if within another six months its servants do not to ee them through-corruption and cowardice thus playing hide and remove this blot on the national escutcheon. seek with the public integrity and their duty. pon this simple statement, which can not be denied, the case admits of no debate. Behind Mr. Nixon the Steel Trust, with all its ramifica [Editorial in The Independent.] · tions, stands paramount. Plate armor is bis right bower, long-range TIIE PAN.A.MA DISGRACE. guns bis left, with every jingo in the land to whoop 'em up with "Who's afraid of .John Bull?" Where falsification will not snffir.e, The President in signing the Panama bill calls it "one of the most evasion is the word, and legal eminence, in and out of Congre s,. is beneficial that has been passed by this or any other Congress." That employed to quibble and hoodwink when a straight vote fot· ship may be true, for it provides for the opening of an international high subsidy-which this legislation is, no more and no less-would neyer way needed for the last 400 years. But it is certainly true that the be dared. bill is one of the mo t discreditable and dangerous that has been War ith England is unthinkable. But wars, nevertheless, are often passed by this or any other Congress, !or it covers legislation· that provoked on less provocation. Both the Shipping •.rrust and the Steel could never have been passed upon its merits, throws a heavy financial '!'rust would welcome war with England or any other country, for the burden upon the Amer·ican people, involves us in complicatious with money mad know no relenting, have as scant humanity a conscience, European and American powers to an unpredictable extent, violates and are sublimely patriotic when they can increase their riches at the our treaty with England, puts us before the world as resorting to common cost. trickery to gain a commercial advantage, and destroys confidence in 'l'he first thing which Congress should do upon reassembling is to the arbitration movement in which the United States bas had a lead re cind the odious subsidy clause from the Panama act. Many voted ing part_ Let us briefly enumerate some of the illegitimate features for it without reflection. But no Senator nor Representative can refuse which this bill conceals: to vote for its repeal without subjecting himself justly to the accusa 11'irst. It grants to coastwlse shipping a perpetual subsidy of an tion that he is in favor of subsidy if not to the suspicion that the con incalculable amount. millions of dollars a year at any rate. Now, if solidated trust organized by Mr. Nixon exerts in his case an influence this money had been appropriated from a .sm·plus in the United States that needs to be explained. Treasury, it would not be so bad, but it is not. It is money that we 'l'hcre are many ways of killing a dog besides shooting him, and have borrowed for the purpose of building the canal and on which we whilst Mr. STANLEY is doing het·oic work upon the Steel Tt·ust in public, roust continue to pay intere ·t indefinitely. That is to say, this new law what shall be the verdict of history when it is shown that Mr. Nixon, puts the American people in the position Qf borrowing money at a cost of with Mr. Morgan and l\Ir. Perkins behind him, was making game of the some 10,000,000 a year to themselves for the purpose of enabling the Government and playing monkey with the people in the seclusion of owners of coastwise ships to make a profit out of what might other the back parlors and the dark closets of/ the National Capital? wise be a losing business. Worse than that. We have already gtven these men protection at our expense by the law prohibiting fot·eign Yes ·els from stopping at two American ports. It has often been argued [Editorial from the Southern Lumberman, Dec. 21, 1912.] that we should subsidize the American lines that compete with foreign lines, but no one has ventured to put forth so preposterous a claim WILL IIURT PIXE AXD CYPRESS. as that the coastwise ships should have a !?Ubsidy added to their Prof. Emory R . .Johnson's able paper in this issue on "Panama monopoly as is done by this act. If any gratuitous favors of this Canal and Southern Lumber •.rrade" should be carefully studied by kind are to be granted it would be less absurd to reverse it and grant southern lumber manufacturers, particul:u!y yellow pine antl cypress free tolls to American lines coming into competition with foreign lines manufactm'ers. 1004 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. J ANUARY 4,
Prof. John~on was opposed. as we were, to the exemption from tolls The address referred to is as follows·: of American ship. !n the coastwlse trade, but he does not think that the increased eomp~tition of west-<:oast woods will seriously hurt southern LAddress by Gov. Eugene . Fo~s. of Massachusetts. at the conference lum~r. . He thmks that on account of their superiority southe1·n soft of governors, Richmond, Va., Dec. G, 1912.] wooas w~l !Je .abl.e to .substantially hold their own in the markets east THE DEYELOP~T OF INLAND WATERW .HS. of the l\.I1ssISs1pp1 agn.m t the west-coast product ·we seriously doubt thi , both with respect to yellow pine and cypres· . IXTRODOCTIOX. Both these woods are superior to any of the west-coast 1'00ds in I .have asked to have the subject of our inland waterways brought strength and durabi.lity, but it is doubtful if superiority on any other officially before this conferen~e because I am sati tied that l.\1 a. P!'fmer score can be mnintamed. Strength and durability cut a material figure set~lement of the tran portati-0n problems of this country the concerted only in heavy and outside construction work. Both yellow pine and action of the States is ab olutely n ecessary. cypress. now have to ""O up against" the competition of west-coast COXG"RESS HAS FAILED. woods m. hundreds of uses wh~r:e strength and durability are not of We . ne.ed. not review. the repe!lte~ failures of succe sive national fi!st collSlde~ation. Thes~ qualities cut little figure in house construc administrations. to provide . constructive plans for the impro>ement ot tion and finish whereas m softness and ca e of working fir and red our transportation system as a unit. wood from the Pacific coast are quite their equal. Prof. Johnson speaks of the lobby maintained at "Washington by the IXDEPE-;-DEXT STATE ACTION HAS FAILED. manufacturers of west-coast woods in behalf of this toll exemption of 11', on the ~th!!.r .hand, we review the improvements which have been American ships. He conh·overts the arguments made by these men at made by the. rnrundual States acting independentily, we shall not find Wa hington, 1.hat without this exemption they would be at calamitous any substantial progre s toward an effective general sy tern disadvant?-ge in compe~ition with British Columbia manufacturers, who :.rhe history of American watet·ways shows that State authority has can ship m foreign ship· cheaper both to build and man whereas only failed and that the opportunities of etiective l!'ederal administration American vessels are permitted to ply from port to port' on the Amet·i have been neglected. can. co.ast. Prof. Johnson thinks that. whatever thi advantage might The result has ~en that the waterways of the united States have be. it is more than offset by the American tariff on lumber, which will ~e>er ~en d.ev~loped as a system upon any national cale, but have been . till average something like 1.50 per thousand on such west-coast improve~ prrnc1pally through the e1fo1·ts of Congressmen to get a share lumber as will come through the canal to our eastern seaboard. of the rl\ers and harbor appropriations for their re peetive district· This lumber tariff may be taken off in the Democratic revision now and the ~orts of those districts and of the States independently of nnder way, but whether it is or not, it is clearly not so much the Federal aid, to help themselves. ' Briti h Columbia producers of lumber that the Washington, Oregon, But I do -!'.l-Ot ~elieve that the situation is bopele s. The groundwork and California manufacturers had in mind when they made their argu for ~ooperatio_n is already laid. Only concerted action upon a compre ments at Washington in behalf of toll exemptions as it was the compe hensive plnn ts now wanting. tition of yellow pine and cypress. COXCEIITED STATE ACTIO:N IS NECESSARY. We think Prof. Johnson ~eatly underestimates the seriousness of the outcome to the yellow pme and cypress men. If fir, spruce, and I am fu11lly ~onvinced that the development of our inland waterwavs redwood and the several other soft woods from \\ashington, Oregon, can be accomplished through the concerted action of the 8tate · affected · and California can be brought around to our Atlantic ports on a freight brought about not only by their own enterprise and the expenditure or charge of from $5 to $8 per thousand it is going to mean a competi ~tate f_unds. but to an even greater degree through their united powt>r tion that. assuming all other conditions to remain about as they are ·~;)b~?:c~?lfi:f{i~r:J. Congress an intelligent and broad-minded study of the now and have been for several years, will enormou ly decrease the con sumption of both yellow pine and cypress. ~s soon as the American people realize that it is directly counter to There are many things, of course, which can not be foreseen. The then· .o~n good to leave. this. important subject as the chief political completion of the canal and the era of pro perity already under way perqu.1s1te of Representa~1ves m Congress, they will bring about an end may result in such an increase in the gen&al bu iness of the country of this method of handling the question; and it is in every way proper as will carry lumber consumption far beyond 3.llYthin"' we have ever that ~uch ~oncert~d a.ction should be taken, for the country geo seen or hoped for, thereby invalidating any prophecies that might now graplncally is a unit WJth respect to its waterway . be made. No one can tell about this. It may come, and it may not. OXITY OF THE U:NITED ST.ATES WATERWAY SYSTmI. If it does not come. it is a sure thing. in our judgment, that yellow pine and cypress manufacturers two or three years hence are going to The United S.tates is cut in two by the :Mississippi River, which thu~ fiud themselves far worse hurt than Prof. Johnson believes. ~r:sufh~runk llne, as you may say, of water coDllllunicatloi;i from north Prof. Johnson speaks of the yellow-pine manufacturers being ablP. to Al~ng the northern bor~er w~ have. the Great Lakes, making a mo. t hold their market in the territory east of the Mississippi River. This efl'.~ch~e ~D?-mercial fron~1er which umtes us with Canada commercially field probably takes little more than half of the total yellow-pin~ pro while it divi.des us only in a territorial sense_ duction. The figures are available to show with fair accuracy just how . Th!s chain of l!Jkes (~lving us ~ substantially east-and-west commu much of yellow pine in recent years has found a market west of thP. rucation) forms, 1? conJu.nction. with the Mississippi River, n rem:u-k river a.nd how much of it in the eastern field. We have not stopped able waterway which has potentially no equal on earth, with a southern to look the figures up. It will oecur to anyone, however, that it is in outlet for practically the whole of the middle section of our counh·y this west-o.f-the-rive1· field that yellow pine is best qualified on basis of and for eastern Canada as well. merit to meet its west-coast competitors. It is in this field that a far Th.ls tremendous natural water system extends uninterruptedly to the gre::t ter propor·tion of !umber is used for outsl-de construction. where Pana.ma Canal, and the completion of that eanal will uive us a sea strength and durability are required, whereas in the eastern field the ~?ard in one unbroken line from the eities of Puget Sound to Eastport, con umption is much more largely for factory use, where the softness =e. ease with which it can be worked, and the wide, elear stock of the These, broadly speaking, are the great waterway projects which form west-coast woods will be of most advantage to them. the framework of our water-transportation system and to which the Prof. Johnson admits that west-coast woods will come into our concerted attention of the several States should be given. eastern sea.board cities and be back-ship"{'ed westward to some extent. Whatever amount so reaches our Atlantic coast through the canal in COOPERATIO~ OF VllI.OUS PUBLIC BODIES. addition t~ what is now reaching those marke~s by rail will cut off just so much pme and cypress consumption, assumrng the total consumption The goYernors of the variou States have a splendid opportunity to of lumber to remain as now, and leave just that much more of the impress upon their people the importance of reallzinoo thts commercial southern prodi;ict to find a market w~st o.f the :Mississippi River, whe1·e unity, and a concerted public sentiment must be aroused which wm 1.he meeting lme between it and rail-shipped west-coast woods is al make it impossible for any private or special interest to secure from the ready defined and vigorously contested. Federal Government any appropriation out of harmony with the best It has seemed to us that yellow pine and cypress manufacturers have general development of our commercial waterway , and which will com- l1een singularly indifferent to the whole matte1· of the probable effect on ~jl th~~e C~~t,i;!~ ~~s~~~~!~~ for a uniform and businesslike development their business of operation of the canal. Had they fully realized what is likely to occur they would have been lined up almost to a man in I urge upon the conference of governors the imperative need of opposition to exempting An:ierican vessels from ~nal tolls. The very arousin .~ and coopernting with this uublic sentiment as the only mean faet th!it west-coast competitors were so stoutly m favor of this shows of placing before the Congress a program of waterway development what they think will be the effect. which will have public sentiment behind it and from which every ves tige of special or selfish interest shall be eliminated. ~~h e best hope now of the southern softwood manufacturers is that when public sentiment on this toll-'Cxemption proposition has bad time In this work of coordinating public sentiment, and compelling the to crystallize into recognition that it is but a ship subsidy in dis"'uise attention of Congress, the governors of the several States will find and a taxing of the whole people for the benefit of some of the people splendid cooperation in several public bodies which are already organ there will be a demand for repeal of this clau e of the canal bill that ized and hard at work on this line of progress. The great River and Harbor Congress now in session In Washington• Congress wlll heed. is probably the most notable of these bodies. '.rhen there is the Atlantic Deeper Waterways Assoclation and the [Statement of Benjamin Ide Wheeler, president Univer ity of Cali Lakes-to-the-Gulf Waterway Association, and the various public bodies fornia.] which are coneerned with the conservation of our natural resources All of these groups of citizens and officials are in a position to do The device of remitting tolls on our coastwise commerce seems to me splendid work along the lines here indicated, and they are doing it a peculiarly unfortunate method of subsidization. Why should a sub with a will. sidy be provided solel:¥- for those ships which happen to use the canal? INTRASTATE ACTIO~ ALSO NEEDED. P--"I Nevertheless, even with the most effective action which Congress can (Statement of David Starr Jordan, president Leland Stanford Uni take, the responsibility will stlll rest in some degree upon the individual Yersity.] States, and they must plan and construct such local canals :ind sub sidiary water channels as the general waterway development of the I can see no reason why any American ships should be relieved from country may demand. the necessity of paying their share in this matter. The task of the governors is to coordinate the action of the several States between t hemselves and to effeet the still higher coordination of l\Ir. MURRAY. Ur. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to this unlform work with the work of Congress. print in the R ECORD an address by G-Ov. Eugene N. Foss, of Mas MASSACHUSETTS AS AN EXAMPLE. sachusetts, at the conference of governors in Ilichmond, ' a., on I am proud to say that Massachusetts has to a great degree recog December 5, 1912. nized the failure of the Federal Govern ment t o meet th.ls crisis and has The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the jumped into the breach with an appropriation of $9,000,000 for the development of the port of Boston. gentleman from Massachusetts to print certain matter ill the The Commonwealth is doing this as a matter of self-preservation, a nd RECORD ? the act is a wonderful expression of the public spirit and enterprise ot There was no objection. the people of Massachusetts. :
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Massachusetts not only realizes that she must do her part (without It has resulted in subordinating one of the most vital considerations waiting for Congress) in maintaining and improving her commercial of American life to the private needs of the railroads. Rtanding, but she Is especially resolved that the opening of the Panama oun O~"'E-SIDED POLICY HAS IlESULTED IN EXCESSIVE FllEIGHT RATES. Canal shall find het• ready to do business with the rest of the world. \Ye have not only appropriated $9,000,000 for the development of the Consequently, freight rates have reached a point many times as high port of Boston, but we are hard at work upon the problems presented as they would be i:f an effective water competition existed, and the cost uy the present undeveloped condition of our principal rivers. . of freight is one of the principal factors entering into the cost of living. Our State commissioners are cooperating with the commissioners of We are at this moment wrestling with the problems of railroad regu Connecticut in a project for the commercial development of the Con lation. necticut River. We are in debate as between the advantages of private and public This river, which is of splendid potential importance, can be dred~ed railroad ownership. at lea.st as far north as Springfield, and perhaps Holyoke, for ships The problems are vexation and deep seated. suited to navigation in the Sound and along the Atlantic coast. We are only just now learning how to handle them. It can be furthermore dredged for smaller "Vessels and reenforced And it is remarkable that throughout all this discussion and public by canals to furnish an effective outlet for the western ha.If of New agitation, more attention is not centered on waterway de>elopment as England, opening up the interior of that section in a wonderful degree the one most effective means of meeting the railroad situation and com to water traffic. pelling a fair railroad rate. Railroad advocates are accustomed to jeer at the development of WATER-BORNE CO:.\DIERCE THE NATURAL COllPETITOP. OF RAILROADS. this river as a visionary project, forgetting that Europe has utilized Water traffic is the cheapest h'"Ilown means of transportation. much smaller streams and has channeled them for from 50 to 100 It is o cheap that it forms the most effective natural competition miles inland and built upon their bankB some of the greatest seaports for the raih"oads. of the world at distances as far from the seaboard as northern :Massa It is remarkable that the railroad systems of America have been so chusetts is from Long Island Sound. successful in choking off water competition, in buying up our water (I shall take up more in detail later on the discussion of these great terminals and leaving them unused, and in preventing proper recogni inland seaports of Europe.) tion by Congress of our waterways as the natural avenues of commerce. Furthermore, we are bent upon the commercial development of our I am told that the a>erage charge per ton-mile for freight on the other principal rivers, such as the Taunton and the Merrimac. American railroads is H mills. The Taunton River penetrates one of the most important industrial Contrast this figme with the average per ton-mile for freight on the sections of our State, and we propose to make it effective as a means of Great Lakes, which is eight-tenths of a mill, or less than one-ninth the cheaper transportation. average charge for the same service by the railroads. We are at work on the development of the Merrimac River, planning But the most significant comparison has yet to be given. its commercial development at least to Lowell, and hoping that New It is this : During the season when the Great Lakes and their tribu Hampshire will cooperate with us to make it a commercial waterway ta1·y channels are freely open to navigation the railroads which com as far north as Nashua, and perhaps Concord. pete with the Great Lakes transportation service reduce their rates to TilE CAPE COD CANAL. lY\r mills per ton-mile on the average, or appronmately one-quarter of their usual charge. '\Ye are also recognizing now as never before the importance of dig And yet, instead of maintaining this natural competition between ginr; canals to supplement the natural waterways of the State. waterways and railroads as the most effective possible stimulus to indus Under private auspices a canal 1s now being dug across the neck of try, we have abandoned most of our earlier watenvays projects-not Cape Cod, and this splendid private enterprise has enabled the State only abandoned them, but permitted their confiscation by the railroads. to concentrate its own resources upon our harbor and river develop And where tbe water traffic itself is not pominated by the railroad ment. we have permitted the railroads to utilize the old canal banks for their The project for a Cape Cod canal was first ta.ken up in the earliest own right of way-a remarkably effective means of choking off any days of the colony and abandoned. attempted restoration of the canal project itself. New York, however, had built the Erie Canal, and we now know that it was that canal, small and imperfect as it was, which made New ECROPEA1i E:x..urPLE. York the Empire State. Europe:.m countries have uniformly developed their waterways as a We are realiz1ng that if our ancestors had dug the Cape Cod Canal means of assuring commercial prosperity and rapid growth, and they when the Erie Canal was built, Massachusetts might never ha\e lost have done -it with a truly prophetic instinct, in anticipation of tbe her commercial supremacy. necessity. Cape Cod has undoubtedly been a serious physical barrier to the A generation ago Belgium, with an area less than l\Ia sachusetts and maritime development of Massachusetts. Connecticut, had over 1,000 miles of internal waterways. At least 2,000 vessels have been wrecked in the Nantucket Shoals Ou this system of canals she has spent over 80,000,000. alone, and hundreds of sailors have perished in these dangerous regions. In Belgium and in Holland the ocean is brought to every city, and as In spite of this difficulty, there is at the present time an annual a re ult these little countries have become world powers in commerce movement of 25,000,000 tons of traffic around Cape Cod and 500,000 and manufactures. passengers. A ton of raw material comes to them 1,000 miles for $1. '.rhe Cape Cod Canal is estimated to represent an expenditure of The British Isles have 4,000 miles of canals and an equal length of $6,000,000. improved waterways. nut if only half of this total traffic passes through the canal, a Germany has over 10,000 miles of internal waterways, much of which substantial return will be made on the investment. represents engineering work, and her policy makes a highway of every This .is to be a sea-level canal, with only 8 miles of excavation, the stream that has water enough to fill a canal. entire 1ength of waterway being 13 miles and the depth at low water She makes immense appropriations for the extension of these water 25 feet. ways. It brings New York and Boston 66 miles nearer than they were Austria and Hungary have spent fully 200,000,000 on rivers and before, by water. canals. Surely a project of this kind, with its wonderful possibilities of Even China has such a wonderful system of shallow canals that shortening d1stance and cheapening and safeguarding maritime traffic, almost every town can ship to the ocean by water. ought not to have been left to twentieth century enterprise. It ought to have been consummated a hundred years ago. WATERWAY DEn~LOPME~T PREVENTS RAILROAD :11o:rnPOLY, BUT EXLA.RGES Another lesson that we are learning in Massachusetts is very sig· THE SCOPE OF RAILROAD SER'1CE. nificant in connection with our pending waterway enterprises. Again, a remarkable illusfration of the fact that the railroads and We are realizing now that if we had concentrated at an earlier date waterways, while natural competitors, are of mutual benefit is found upon the development of our waterways, we should not have lost to the in . the experience of Europe. ·west and to Canada many of onr so-called heavy indnstries-indus· WhE:n the River Elbe was adapted to canal service the river traffic tries in which the cost of the transportation of raw materials is a increased fivefold, and yet the railroads which bad to compete with the serious factor. river were not ruined, but paid greater dividends tban ever before. One by one these great industries are moving westward and north The River Main has been channeled, and while tbere is a railrnad on ward, where transportation1 particularly by water, is cheap and ample. each side of it and the river traffic has grown more than tenfold in 10 We are determined that rn the future the industries of New England years, yet the railroad trade has not suffered a decline, but has been shall have their raw materials on practically as favorable a basis as increased. any other section ; ancl we thus hope to overcome the handicap which The Northern Railway of France competes with numerous canals. 100 rears of shortsighted a.nd narrow-minded policy has fastened Surely here we would expect to find injury done, if anywhere, to upon us. the railroads, but, on the contrary, this railway is said to have been the TR.A "SP.ORTJ..TION CRISIS I!'f UNITED ST.ATES. most prosperous of any in France. I think I am speaking conservatively when I say that we are standing It has prospered when other railroad systems have been in trouble. at the critical point of American history in regard to our transpor London is well served by railroads-more intimately related to the tation. rest of the country by railroad service than most of the cities of 'Ihe key to the situation undoubtedly lies in the development of our America. waterways. Nevertheless, London has not hesitated to invest $18G,OOO,OOO in Let us see why. the development of her port and the dredging of the Thames to make For 50 years the financial and bu~iness interests of the country have that port effective !or modern shi8ping. concentrated the greater part of their energies on the construction and Liverpool has spent $125,000,00 ; Manchester-practically an inland extension of our railroad service. city-has made herself a seaport by the investment of 90,000,000. '.rhe United States has therefore become wonderfully well equipped Glasgow has invested $40,000,000; Newcastle, $80.000,000; Bristol, with trunk railroad lines and local railroad facilities. $30,000,000; Hamburg, $100,000,000 ; Antwerp, $4ri,OOO,~OO . We have gone to an extreme in this direction, and have practically All this expenditure represents the most effecti>e possible means of surrendered onr own transportation interests into the hands of the rail checking the aggrandizement of the railroads or the inflation of freight roads. rates under railroad control. The country has gone railroad mad. No one, however, can say that this de>elopment has wrought harm One hundred years ago this country was digging canals in earnest ; to the railroads of Europe, whether owned privately or by the Govern 4,000 miles of them were constructed; then came the era of the rail ment. road, and the canals and waterways were allowed to go to ruln. On the contrary, European waterway development has proceeded. so Also, during our whole history we have spent but five hundred mil to spealr, hand in hand with the railroad development ; and each has lions on our rivers and harbors as against possibly eighteen thousand· been made possible and hu.s profited by the development of the other. millions on our railroads. A. trunk line of railroad c.an, to a certain extent, defy authority and :Meanwhile France, for example, has equalized her expenditures, put maintain a high rate of freight. ting seven hundred and fifty millions into harbors and waterways and But a canal is essentially a public way. seven hundred mUlions into railroads. Lines of towboats and barges can move upon a canal or river in direct '.rhis policy, taken in connection with our peculiar tariff system, bas competition with each other; monopoly can be prevented; and the aver resulted in stunting our foreign commerce and in impeding the develop age freight rate via waterways is thei·efore kept automatically at tho ment of our coastwise shipping. lowest figure consistent with maintaining the service. 1006 CONGRESSION \_L RECORD-. HOUSE. JANUARY 4,
It is for these very reasons that our waterway development must The dist~ce from Chicago to the Gulf of Mexico is slightly in excess proceed under the public auspices of State and Nation and must be of 1,600 miles, and the connecting link formed by the Chica""o River and pushed as a work of public exigency, just as the Panama Canal has the Chicago ship canal is only 38 miles long. "' been pushed, Jrrespective of any railroad influence. The remaining distance is covered by existing natural waterways Still the railroads are dependent solely upon the prosperity of the which need only to be channeled and improved. district which they serve, and this prosperity increases in proportion as Of this total distance of 1,659 miles the entire route is now open I we open up cheap transportation for low-grade freights. understand, for vessels drawing 4~ feet. ' This we can only do with the help of the canal. For over three-fourths of the way, i. e.. from the Gulf up to St. ·we are still congesting our railroads with a mass of cheap, low-grade Louis, vessels of 8 feet draft are accommodated. freights which they can not carry economically. To complete a modern 14-foot channel from the southern end of the We can not get satisfactory service from the railroads for the ship artificial Chicago ship channel down to the Gulf is estimated to involve ment of our factory products so long as these roads are tied up with a~ expenditu_re of $1501000,000 ; and the broadening of the Chicago undelivered shipments of coal, pig iron, and other raw materials. River an.d ship canal it 1S estimated will cost $100,000,000. The European practice is to move these low-grade freights by canal By this development we shall have a 14-foot channel connecting the and river. · Lakes to the Gulf of l\Iexico at a total expenditure of $250 000 000 The railroads, freed from this low-grade business, at the same time with an ~stimated annual maintenance charge of possibly $10,000,000. ' build up the general business interests which they serve and increase Even if only the territory immediately tributary to the Mississippi the mass of high-grade freights which they must still continue to ~erfhi~o s~te~~-efited , nobody could dispute the commercial importance carry and which they always will carry, no matter how many canals are built. · But, in fact, there are many large and important rivers tributary to The public servants of France and Germany have recognized this this ~reat ~aterway which feed an area comprising the greater part or basic difference between the railroad and the canal and have seen that our rndustr1ally developed continental territory. the proper development of both together would be mutually beneficial. This backbone once constructed, the laterals of the system will Our railrnads have been afraid of canal development from the most quickly follow, and the existing rivers will be dredged and the necessary narrow-minded reasons, and their successful activity in defeating our east and west canal channels will be excavated. The diversion of the eanal projects has reacted disastrously upon. themselves. course of rivers for irrigation purposes shows what may be ddne in this respect. EGROPEA...~ PORTS .A.RE INLAND, CON:N"ECTED WITH THE SE.A BY IMPROVED 'l'he only argument that I ba.ve ever heard advanced against this CHA.N:l\""ELS. project rested on the fact that we could build a north and south rail The secret of the success of the great commercial countries ,of Europe road from Chi_cago down to New Orleans at a slightly lower cost and lies in their remarkable foresight, in the way in which they have pre double track it-the statesman in question sagely arguing that we pared for expanding trade and commerce, and in the location of their could give the unexpended difference to public charity. great commercial centers. The absurd contention that a double-track railroad from Chicago to Practically all of the great seaports of Europe have been equipped New Orleans would serve as economically and satisfactorily as a vast with modern transportation facilities far in advance of their actual river system with practically unlimited carrying capacity need not be requirements in anticipation of growth. refuted before this audience. With us the typical commercial city is located either directly on the Some years ago a project was brought up for the construction of " seaboard or some natural inland waterway. canal which should connect Pittsbur~h with the Great Lakes. but Europe bas built her seaports inland and connected them with the went by the board, and in place of it the railroads interested in C sea by dredging and excavation. ~~;f~i~tdair~1:to1:1~~~~·i~~sEonstructed railroad outlets for the Pittsburgl1 For example, Hamburg is 76 miles inland, and has been made available as a seaport only by the expenditure of a hundred million . I th_ink it should now be eyident that· if the steel industry had pro dollars. vided itself with a waterway outlet to the Lakes instead of spending its But by reason of her inland location she is completely surrounded money on the railroads, Pittsburgh might have maintained its old in by a vast producing territory, and the genius of the German nation dustiial supremacy. has foreseen the strategic advantage of bringlng the ocean to the Its freight rates on raw materials would have been reduced to per interior of her great industrial sections. haps one-tenth of their present amount, and the industries which by In compari on New York and Boston at best have only 50 per cent reason of this high cost of freight are now moving northward and west territol'ial efficiency, for they face directly on the ocean, and even ward and even into Canada might have been retained in Pittsburgh Chicago pays heavily for her location on the shore of Lake Michigan indefinitely. in the fact that it shuts oif all industrial environment on the north Cheap rates on low-grade freights a re the basis of industrial success. east. Antwerp is another of the great seaports of Europe, but she is THE ERIE CANAL. located 55 miles from the ocean. The Erle Canal is a project to which the attention of New York State She still suffers from the natural handicap of the tide. !s earnestly needed. It is not often that a ship can make the entire journey up to Antwerp I mention it as one of those projects to which State initiative rather in one turn of the tide. than Federal initiative may well be given. But Antwerp draws from a productive territory which completely It will furnish us with a new outlet from the Lakes to New York encit·cles her. City and the Atlantic Ocean, and will enable us to compete once more Manchester, London, and Glasgow are equally significant examples of with the great 14-foot channel of the St Lawrence system. the European idea of commerce. Twenty years ago the Committee on Railways and Canals of the These cities are all far inland, Manchester being 50 miles-measured Fifty-second Congress said : " On the day that it becomes possible to along the available water levels out to natural ocean channels-from send ships direct from the Great Lakes to the ocean by way of the St. the sea and shut off absolutely by nature from any maritime connection. Lawrence River, while they are unable to go by way of the Hudson, Glasgow is situated 60 miles inland from the Irish Sea, and has • • * the merchant marine of the United States, which has had a been made a great seaport only by dredging the river, which presented new birth on the Lakes, will receive its death blow from Canadian in the beginning a more serious obstacle than most of om· American competition." rivers to commercial development. That statement was made in 1892, and the report advocated the con The River Clyde was originally a river of such small size that it struction of a deep-water channel from the Lakes to the Hudson. could be forded by man or beast at many points. Somehow the railroad interests succeeded in convincing the people I need not multiply these examples. that New York interests would be better served by a mere barge canal. Great Britain and the commercial countries of the European Con But Canada proceeded with her owu development, and her guiding tinent have become tremendous powers in the commercial world only principle was that freights should be carried in an unbroken bulk from through their public spirit and foresight in providing themselves with the Lakes to whatever foreign port they were consigned to, or, at most, maritime facilities, either natural or artificial or both, as might be the with only one transshipment. We must have a way out to the sea for our own ships by which they ca~l~he main reason for the commercial supremacy of these countries is can come and go as freely as if on the ocean. in the fact that they have already met and solved the transportation Canada has flanked us commercially and is taking the commerce of problems which we are still facing. the West through Montreal. They went through their formative commercial period long before we Already our farmers are finding their closest competitors in the great did · they wrestled with the problems of municipal, private,· or State Canadian Northwest, and Winnipeg has become the greatest wheat mar ownership of waterways and railroads; and while we are still under ket in the world. the domination of our railroad monopolies, other countries have found Our wheat supremacy passed from Chicago to Minneapolis and then the way out, even to the extent of digging a way through to the ocean to Duluth, and now Manitoba has become the center of the wheat at an enormous expense. market. "'e must therefore look to the older communities of Europe and Our cereals compete with those of the Saskatchewan Basin, which frankly copy their example; and by doing this we shall find that with its splendid outlet to the world, will displace our own agriculturai practically all the commercial centers of Europe have grown through districts unless we provide a low-cost outlet to our markets. the joint :md parallel development of marine and rail transpot·tation. THE CA .A.DIAN SYSTEM.
PA~All.A.: THE FlllST STEP IN OUR NEW POLICY, One of our obstacles to waterway development is found in the failure of our canal promoters and advocates to insist upon channels of suffi By digging the Pana.ma Canal we have struck at the heart of the cient depth. I?roblem. Consequently, while the Canadians carry an unbroken cargo of 80,000 We are obtaining for ourselves by concerted public action the type bushels on a channel 14 feet deep, our Erie system is limited to a cargo or transportation which is potentially many times cheaper than rail of 8,000 bushels on a channel less than half the depth of the Canadian road transportation, and Congress, by the sections of the Panama Canal system. net with respect to the ownership of steamships by railroads, has taken The Canadian method is right; our way has been wrong. eff'ective action to make this potential value real. '.rhe Canadian system bas developed in accordance , with a broad We are thus beginning to see the utility of water-borne trnnsporta minded governmental policy. tion as a natural means of controlling railroad monopoly. Our policy has been badly defined, narrow, and selfish. THE LAKES-TO-THE-GULF PROJECT. Canada has spent on her canal. and navigable inland waterways n total of 130,000,000, as against $475,000,000 on her railroads-a ratio The Panama Canal being an assured fact, the most important remain of about 1 to 3~. ing projects now on foot for the reconstruction of Amet·ican commercial 'Ve have expended sums on our waterways and railroads on the ratio supremacy are the Lakes-to-the-Gulf waterway, the Atlantic deeper of 1 to 36. waterways p1·oject, and the restoration of the Erie Canal to meet the Relatively Canada has spent 10 times as much on her waterways as needs of modern commerce. · we have spent. Whiie I can not undertake the discussion in detail of all these proj With the development of the Canadian canals the cost of carrying ects, I wish to refe1· briefly to the Lakes-to-thcr-Gulf enterprise as the freight bas almost steadily declined. one which in the largest sense will form the backbone of our future For in:::>tancP, on the Sault Ste. Marie Canal in 1890 the cost of a ton commercial development. mile was l:fo- mills. .• 1913. -CONGR.ESSION AL RECORD-HOUSE.
Twenty years later It bad dropped to seTenty-nine one-hundredths portation and incidental expenses of officers and clerks of the Offiee mill. of Indian Affairs when ti·avcling on official duty ; for pay of employees And at the same time the total shipping bas tremendously increased. not otherwise provided for ; and for other necessary expenses of the For example, tbe total frei~bt caITied from the Canadian system of Indian service for which no other appropriation is available, $8J,!>60. canals in mos was 17,000,00u tons. Within the next year it jumped to 33,000,000 tons. Mr. UA~N. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the fast Yet the number of trips diminished, showing the steady increase in word. .May I ask the gentleman from Texas in charge of the the tonnage of the average carload. bill the reason for cutting down this appropriation $44,000? In fact, the average cargo in 1908 was apvroximately 1,000 tons. The comparison of this i·ecord with the pitiful shipments of our own Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I will say that there are sey-eral canals need not be dwelt upon here. agents formerly under this item that are now specially provided anada has recognized the essjlntial difference between waterway and for. Therefore it is neces ary to deduct that amount and put railroad traffic, and has realized that both kinds are indispensable. The function of the waterways is to move the lower grades of freight them in under the heads of the agencies in the resp~ti-ve States, at a cheap rate. and I will point those out as we go along. This is a lump-sum The function of the railroad is to move the higher grade freight and appropriation. We have appropriated along tlu·ough the appro to moTe them fast. That is the natural distinction between railroads and inland water- priations for the States for these ·rnrious items so that the totals are the same; but instead of a lump sum we have made w1'.tgi:oughout the greater field of raw materials and cheap mercha.ndise special appropriations in the States under the proper heads speed is not essential, but economy is. The railroads have a sufficient field of service and profit in connec for these agents. tion with the higher grades of freight which demand prompt shipment l\Ir. MANN. The specific appropriation for the States main { and upon which a beaviet· charge cun be paid. tains appropriations for these special agents, but I take it that Our public policy should have recognized this relation between water way and railroad transp-ortation and maintalned it as the basis of a. these special agents would be confined to those States. What is more equitable adjustment between the two methods. the object of removing the discretion of the department in hav J I think I have Ifill.de it clear that we are tbe only country of com ing special agents sent from one place to another where they f mercial importance which has ignored this vital consideration. are most needed and requiring them to be retained in particular TIIE ARGUMENT F'OR SPEED. States? The railroad advocates are loud in thelr criticism of the inland water way as a.n impracticable means of transportation on account of the 1\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I think the gentleman from I1linois alleged slowness of waterway service; and we may freely udD?-it that, misapprehends the matte1·. The justification will show the in general, the railroads ought to render a faster freight service than object of this. could be given by the inland waterways. The fact is, however, that we have congested our railroads with 'l'his same amount was carried in the bill last year. .As the reading so much low-grade freight that all American freight movements are of the item indicates, it is used for the various expenses of the service impeded beyond reason; and we shall not get a satisfactory rate of which are not otherwise provided for. This fund is indispensable speed from the freight train until we have learned to ship our raw to tbe efficient administration of the senke and permits of a smaller materials more generally by water. appropriation than would be practicable if the several matters were Let us examine this statement 1n detail : specifically provided for. That is the justification. In 1910 the American railroads moved, in round numbers, 18,000,000,000 freight-car miles, and the number of freight cars in l\fr. MANN. I do not see that that justifies. That snrs the service was 2,000,000. (The actual number of car-miles was 18,- amount is the same as la t year. You have reduced the amount 349,000,000, and the achtal number of freight cars in service was and made specific appropriations, which the witness declares 2,135,000.) From this it is evident that our freight cars moved on an average would require a larger sum of money. of 9,000 miles a year, which is slightly in excess of 24 miles a day. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Here i a more fall explanation : So much time is lost by demurrage, on sidings, and in the repair l\Ir. MERITT. I should like to submit a justification for this item, as shop that the potential service of our freight cars is reduced in prac follows: tice to this excessively low figure. Contingencies, Indian Department. I It will be noticed that the figure of 24 miles (or, to be exact, 24.6 mile ) per day represents the average travel of an American freight car. Fiscal year ending June 30, 1912 : I Of course, there is a good deal of fast freight that moves more Amount appropriated------$115, 000. 00 rapidly, but I run a shipper of machinery and other manufactured Fiscal year ended June 30, 1911 : goods, and I know from mylersonal experience that many carload ship 115,000.00 ments proceed at the rate o only 5 or 10 miles per day. Amount appropriated------ I do not think that we need to debate at any great length from these Amount expended ------100,084.63 data that the inland waterways ·are capable at least of rendering a sufficiently fast freight service for our cheaper grades of freight. Unexpended balance------14, !)1;>. 37 I personally know of many freight vessels which fiave averaged not Anal:vsis of expenditures : 24 miles a day, but 150 miles a day, day in and day out, during every Employees------47,{)20.70 month of the yea.r. Tiepair material ______312.82 If our waterways were properly developed, the immediate effect upon 802.00 the railroads would be to enable them to move the higher grades of 211. 40 freight at a much increased average rate of speed. Hardw:ue,W~£JLJ~~~~-~~~-~~~~:======furniture, etc______1, 678. 36 The European practice of utilizing the inland waterways (natural Medical supplies------ 347.25 and artificial) for low-grade freights bas, indeed, taken this business Purchase of live stock------460.00 away from the railroads, but it has not crippled the railroads. Forage ______3, 341. 27 The average percentage of net revenue to capital on American rail Traveling expenses ______38,170.84 roads for 1911 is stated to have been 5.3G per cent. 'Telephoning, etc ______1, 168. 49 In Germany, with its splendid equipment of waterways and canals, Stationery and office supplies ______4, 188. 73 the average per cent of net revenue to capital on the German railroads Miscellaneous ------1,482.77 was 5.0!>. CONCLl:;SIO~. 100, 084. 63 If wc were to rest our appeal for the development of our inland waterways only on the necessity of effecting a better freight service CHA~GE IN FOR:\! OF ITElI "CO:'i'.rIXGE~CIES, I~DIA~ Dfil'ART:\IE~T." through the interior of our country, the issue would even then be The item as it appears in the act of 1!>12 is badly arranged and so unmistakable. indefinite as to make it difficult in some cases to determine whether But this is only the lesser of the two considerations involved, for wc expenses should be paid from this or some other appropriation. This are rapidly assuming a more important place in the larger field of for is especially true with respect to " traveling and incidental expenses eign trade. of • * • other officers and employees of the Indian service.' The opening of the Panama Canal will not only stimulate our own It is obviously not intended that all traveling expenses shall be domestic commerce, but will act as a stimulus to our f0t·eign trade al o. paid from this appropriation ; if they were, there would not be enough It will make our western seaJ?orts easily available to Europe, and it for this purpose alone, to say nothing of anythini:; else; yet with such will put our eastern seaports within the reach of the Orient. a specific provision for such expense there is always a doubt as to But we can not benefit as we should by this expanding commerce what appropriation should be used. These doubts. with the evet·-present without a radical change in our public policy respectmg tt·ansportation. pos ibility of a disallowance by the accounting officers of the Treasury, w·e must have outlets to the ocean from our principal industrial cen will be eliminated by the proposed change in phraseology. ters; we must have lateral canals connecting with our principal water Ur. 1\1.A.NN. The amount appropriated for the current year ways, and we must open up as much as possible of our continental ter ritory to our own merchant marine and to the ships of other countries i'3 125,000 and not $115,000, which I suppose was the appro as well. printion for the last fiscal year. Now, last year you increased Only from the most p::u:row and "hort-sighted policy could we further the amount to $125,000, and you say that is necessary. Tbis i.\rl!ore tl~e need of sucli development. $80,960. ~he change of publlc sentiment in favor of a broader commercial year you decrease the amount to policy is further evidenced in the univers3l dissatisfaction with estab .Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. That brings up the controy-ersy lished tariff schedules and the demand for closer relations between our relatiY-e to the district agents in Oklahoma. selves and the rest of the world. Surely we can not shut our eyes to the growing sentiment for an l\Ir. 1\IA.l\~ . Does that inYolve the district agents of Okla expanding international commerce on the one hand or to the pressing homa? Ur. STEPHENS of Texas. Yes. Kone of these agents could ne~a;t~fcg~;·id~~~t1~~:;1~~inie t1~~f~1J:t\ Yerse it and make an np11ropriution for agents in Oklahoma. lands are sold extensively, as they nm t be from time to time, What is the theory upon which you do that; why do you change and under regulation anu through the courts, it becomes the tlleory from that of last year to that of this .year? peculiarly important to know who the heirs of the deceasell l\Ir. CARTER. l\Ir. hairman, I would sugge t that I noticed Indians are. The department does not attempt to is ue patent from the hearings that it is stated that thi i the same amount or for them without seeking reirnbur. ement from them. We shoul XLIX--6-i 1010 OONGRESSION AL REOORD--HOUSE. say in that connection that this provision, this legislation that on. or before June 30, 1925, and all repayments to this fund made on ol'.' before June 30, 1924, are hereby reappro~riated for the same purpose is referred to, was enacted in a prior act of Congress and re as the ori&"inal fund, and the entire fun including such repayments enacted in the act of June 25, 1910. shall remam ava.llable until June 30, 192 ; and all repayments to the Mr. MANN. I would not Ia:y any great stress upon the fact fund hereby created which shall be made subsequent to June 30, 1924, shall be covered into the Treasury and shall not be withdrawn or of anybody in particular supporting the bill, because it had so applied ex~ept in consequence of a subsequent appropriation made by many items in it that nobody could say what was in it except law: Prov ided, further, 'l'hat the Secretary of the Interior shall submit to Congress annually on the first Monday in December a detailed report he author, prob-ably, in whom we had and still have great con of the use of this fund." fidence. I take it that the question then was whether the Gov ernment, through ·the Interior Department, would settle the .Mr. FERRIS. Mr. Chairman, I resel'\e a point of order on heirship of deceased Indians, or whether the matter should be that amendment. -left to the probate courts. We have recently seen that there The CHAIIUIAN. Does the gentleman from Wyoming de ire was at least some suspicion in reference to the matter of leav to be heard on the amendment? ing the settlement of the question to the probate courts in some Mr. M01'i~ELL. I do, .Mr. Chairman. I do not think the parts of the country. I am somewhat delighted that the gentle item is subject to a point of order, but I should like to be men from Oklahoma are in favor of having the Interior De allowed to speak briefly to the merits of the amenclment. partment settle the heirship of Indians outside of Oklahoma at The act of April 30, 1908 (35 Stat. L., 70-83), appropriated the expense of the Government, probably, as has been stated, at the sum of. $25,000 to be used as a reimbursable fund at the nominal expense, while apparently some gentlemen from Okla Fort Belkru:tp Reservation for the purchase of machinery, tools, homa who do not have the pri\ilege ·of the :floor of the House implements, and other equipment and anim::tls to enable the seem to be in farnr of having the heirship of Indians in Okla Indians to engage in the raisin.,. of sugar beets and other crops-. homa settled by the probate courts, not only at the expense of There a.re approximately 154 qCCounts outstanding against the the property of the Indians but at a \ery high rate of expense. Indiap.s on this reservation by reason of their participation in the use of the money appropriated. \ Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Will the gentleman yield at that point? These acoounts involve the purchase of agricultural imple~ :Mr. 1\IAl\TN. Yes. ments, fence wire, and seed. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas~ Is it not a f:lct that Oklahoma The total expenditures made unde:i: the appropriation since bas for many years had a con:imi sion known as the Dawes its establishment amount to $29,768.26, and more than $15,000 ommi ion, and that they have not been under the control of has been already repaid by the Indians and is beincr again used the Indian Department as have all the other States? And is for a similar purpose under the provisions of the act of l\farch 3, not that the reason why Oklahoma has been separated from the 1900 (35 Stat. L., 7 1-795), which provides that the money other States in the matter of the making of these laws? repaid shall be available for reexpenditure. 1\fr. MAl\lN. I will answer that question categorically, no, The act of April 4, 1910 (36 Stat. L., 269-277), appropriated that is not the reason; although there has been a Dawes Com the sum of $15,000 for the purpose of encouraging industry, mission as long as I can remember, and probably will be after among the Indians residing on the Tongue Ri\er Reservation, in I am dead and gone. the State of Montana, to aid them in the culture of fruits, Now, we make the Indian's estate in the probate court in grains, and other crops. This money has been expended in the Oklahoma pay the expense of probating the estate, including purchase of agl'icultural implements, mares, stallions, seeds, proof of heirship. In some cases the expenses of the probate and nursery stock, and ales amounting to more than $12,000 court apparently run as high as 20 per cent of the total amount haYe been made to the- Indians, and the collections already made of the e tate. Here it is proposed to have the Government pay amount to more than $'1,000. the expense, which the gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. The sum of $30,000 was appropriated by the act of i\Iarch 3, BURKE] says is a nominal expense. I think it is well to have 1911 (36 Stat. L.~ 1058-1061), for the purpose of encouraging the Secretary of the Interior find the heirship, and I can see no industry among Indian , and this money was apportioned in I reason, when that is done and the property is sold, why the \ftrious amount , ranging from $1,000 to 5,000, to 15 different I property should not pay back to the Government the expense J;'eservations. Expenditures have been made in the purchase of \ of provino- the heirship. farming implements, equipment, wagons, hor e , and other l\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. Right at that point, if the breeding stock, and while the actual number of Indians who gentleman will permit me, the act of June 25, 1910, does not participated in the use of the money on the various reserva necessarily require the property to be sold. It may be par tions is not known at the present time, the reports received in titioned and: divided and patents issued to the heirs, and they dicate that the money is serving a very useful purpose. may retain possession of it. So in cases of that kind there At the Blackfeet Reservation in Montana $10,000 was set would b :y no moneys from the sale to reimburse the Government aside from "Indian moneys, proceeds of labor," to be used as a for the expense incurred in determining the heirship. reimbursable fund, but this sum is entirely inadequate to meet Mr. 1\IANN. Well, it would be a charge against the property. the needs of these Indians. It is estimated that at least $25,000 My recollection of the act of June 25, 1910, is that it does not more could be used, but the tribal funds will not permit the provide that this work shall be done at the expense of the Gov setting aside of that sum for the purpose. At the Menominee ernment. If I am wi·ong about that I shall be very glad to be Reservation in Wisconsin a reimbursable fund of $7,500 has corrected. been established, but here, too, this sum is entirely inadequate. l\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. I have the act here, if the The three appropriations referred to above, augmented by gentleman would like to have me refer to it. It simply pro the two reimbursable funds established from tribal moneys, vides that when an Indian dies, the Secretary of the Interior, amout to $87,500, and it has been inadequate to aid all the . upon notice of bearing, tmder such rules as he may pr_escribe, Indians, who not only need but want and are asking for as shall ascertain the legal heirs of such decedents, and his de sistance from the Government in providing stock and agricul cision th~reon shall be final and conclusi\e. There is nothing tura1 equipment under the reimbru·sable plan. said about who shall pay the expense. The Indian Office has found it necessary to deny requests be Mr. :MANN. No; there is nothing said there, nor was there cause of the limited funds available. In April last reports anything said here when the act was passed. I do not think were called for from various reservations with a. view of ascer it was contemplated by Congress when that act was passed that taining how much money in addition to tribal funds and indi the final expense should be borne by the Federal Treasury in vidual Indian moneys now available would be needed to en stead of by the estate which was settled. The gentleman from able the Indians on the various reservations to become e tab Wyoming [Mr. MONDELL] suggests that the estimate was lished in farming, stock raising, and industries which would $100,000, and my friend from South Dakota [l\fr. BuBirn] says, place them on a self-supporting basis. The reports received " Oh, well, that is a mere nominal sum." indicate that an appropriation of $9,123,350 would b" · neces l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. I think it is. sary for the purpose. Mr. ~I.ANN. It would be to my friend from South Dakota, These estimates are based upon the apparent needs of the but to me $100,000 would seem as large as Pikes Peak. Indians to enable them to engage in agricultural pursuits, in· :\-Ir. MOi: IDELL. .Mr. Ch.a.irmmi, I offer the amendment cluding the live-stock industry. The amount asked for, there which I send to the Olerk's de k. • fore, is reasonable and could be mads to serTe a very useful The Clerk read as follows : purpose in the industrial upbuilding- of the interests of thn Amend, pa o-e 7, by adding a"t the end of line 24 the following: Indians, a very large number of whom, through lack of means •·Encouraging Industry among Indians : For tbe purpose of encourag- to farm their ltlnd , are earning a livelihood through working ing industry among Indians. and to aid them in the culture of fruits, grains, and other crops, $250,000, or so much thereof as may be neces for their neighbors at such times as they can obtain employ sary, to be immediately available, whicb snm may be used for the ment. purchase ot animals, machinery, tools, Implements, and other equip Regulations governing the use of the $30,000 appropriated by ment necessru.:y to enable Indians to become self-supporting : Pt·ovidea, That said sum shall be expended under conditions to be _prescribed by the act of March 3, 1911, were prepared and approved by the the Secretary of the Interior for its repayment to tbe United States Secretary of the Interior, and the last paragraph of these regu- 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 11011 lations provides that they shall apply to and govern the use of The CHAIIl:\IAl~. The gentleman from Wyoming asks unani similar appropriations and funds where the law will permit. mous consent to proceed for five minutes. Is there objection? It is belie,·ed that a fund of $250,000, in addition to what There was no objection. has l.Jcen already appropriated, used under the regulations re 1\lr. l\I0~1DELL . l\Ir. Chairman, we are endeavoring to teach ferred to, will go a long "\lay toward helping the Indians to habits of indush·y to these Indians. That is the hardest thing reach that state where they "\\ill be self-supporting, who, unclel· for an Indian to learn; not that the Indian is lazy, for he is the 11re ·ent conditions, are unable to get ahead because of not. He is among the most energetic of men, but he is the great economic embarrassment. est aristocrat, as that term is sometimes used, known in tlle It will be seeu that we have from time to time made these world. No race of people has eyer li>ed that has had such an appropriations for thE! general good of the Indians, for the en ingrained prejudice against labor. The noble red man degrades cour;1 gernent of indu try among them, reimbursable. I am himself when· he labor either mentally or physically, according Tery much in farnr of this kind of an appropriation. I have to the tribal trailition handed down from time immemorial. It on >arious occasions in the discu sion of this bill called atten is a part of his blood, a part of his being. It is hard to get tion to what I conceive to be a radical error, a very unfortunate away from it. We are trying to teach the Indian that labor is policy-tha t of appropriating indiscriminately for the benefit honorable, and it is an exceedingly hard lesson for him to learn') of Indians, in many cases for Indians who ha:re large sums in Yet we turn him loose on an allotment without seed, without the Treasury of the United States, at the expense of the tax tc:rols, "\lithout stock, with neither plow nor ox, nor grain to payers of the United States. plnut, and expect him to become self-supporting. It is impos We should be liberal toward our Indian wards. We should sible. We ought not to give these Indians funds unlimited with do eYerything that is necessary in the fulfillment of our duty which to buy these things. We ought not to buy them for them toward them. We have been doing more than that, but above and charge the cost to the good people of the e United States, all things " ·e must teach the Indian to be self-supporting and but "-e should do what we haye been doing wisely and success self-respecting. We can not teach him to be self-supporting, fully-that is, establish a c1:edit fund for them; and if we shall ancl he never will be self-respecting, so long a~. without regard haye the same success in the future with this credit fund that to the amount of property he owns, we scatter Federal funds we have had in the past it will mark the most important step broadcast for his benefit. yet taken in the civilization of the Indians, a step as important In many cases there are Indians who have no available funds, as the day when they :first moved from the tepee into the walled though they have \ery considerable property. There are many tent, where he can put up a cooksto\e and a washtub. other cases where Indians ha\e yery considerable funds that 1\fr. l\IOORE of Pennsylvania. l\Ir. Chairman, will the gentle are doled out to them in driblets, driblets that are dissipated man yield 'l used oftentimes for the purchase of articles of but little per Mr. l\I0!\1DELL. Certainly. manent use or value to them. Mr. MOORE of Pennsylyania. How many Indians are there The CH.A.IRl\IAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyoming in the United States? has expired. Mr. l\IONDELL. The gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. l\lr. l\IO~T])ELL. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent for BURKk], who is an authority, says about 300,000. five minutes more. Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. And to those 300,000 the Gov l\lr .. FERRIS. Will the gentleman withhold for a moment? ernment makes allotments, both of lands and money, does it not? Mr. Chairman, I move that at the expiration of seven minutes Mr. MO~'DELL. There are \ery few Indians now receiving all debate upon this paragraph be closed. • any annuities. l\Ir. MANN. I would like to be heard for a few moments on l\fr. l\fOOHE of Penn ylrnnia. They are wards of the Gov this. ernment? Mr. FERRIS. I will withhold my motion, l\Ir. Chairman. Mr. l\fO:~mELL. Yes. Mr. 1\101\'DELL. Now, the purpose of this item is that we Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. And receive a direct :financial shall proyide a loaning fund to be expended in the discretion of benefit from the Government without any quid pro quo. ( the Commissioner of Indian Affairs for the purchase of cattle, l\Ir. l\IO~'DELL. As to about four-fifths of the items in this I horses, agricultural implements, or other articles, the possession bill; yes. of which will enable the Indian to become self-supporting. Mr. l\fOORE of Pennsylvania. No such consideration is Books are to be kept with him, and in the course of time he is given to the young white fal'mer who wants to start out and expected to repay the Government the sum. work the arid or semiarid ground. The history of the past reimbursable items is the strongest ar Mr. MONDELL. Oh, no. gument in fayor of this one. For the Indian has pro\ed himself l\Ir. MOORE of Pennsylvania. No consideration is given to in almost e\ery case to be mindful of his obligation, an...uous to the mill hand who has no opportunity for employment or for meet it, and in the great majority of cases these sums loaned to profit except as his own energy brings it about. So the Indian the Indians haye been and are being returned much more is the favored ward of the Nation? speedily than we could have e:\.'J)ected. l\Ir. MONDELL. Oh, surely. I ha\e talked with a number of gentlemen, particularly with Mr. l\fOORID of Pennsylvania. I do not want to trespass the agent for the Northern Cheyennes in Montana, in regard upon the gentleman's argument, because it is a :fine argument, to these funds, and the story he tells me is a marvellous one, and his statement is clear and lucid; but does the gentleman not remarkably interesting. That tribe is rather backward in some bring us up to the problem which some day may haYe to be repects in its development. They are a wonderful race of In faced in this country of providing means for assisting the white dians, manly in many ways, but backward in development as an man who wants to· cultivate the ground or the white man in the agricultural people. We have been purchasing seed, tools, and city who :finds himself in need? implements for them, and they ha\e been paying for them. The CHAIRl\fAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyoming They are learning that in their dealings with the Go\ernment has again expired. they must return all that is expended in their behalf. l\fr. l\IOl\T])ELL. The gentleman from Pennsylvania has taken We should now inaugurate this policy generally. We have three or four minutes of my time: made great progre s in breaking up the communal system. We l\Ir. MOORE of Pennsylvania. l\Ir. Chairman, I ask unani are ginng the Indians their land in severalty, in many cases mous consent that the time of the gentleman be extended for turning them loose with 40, 80, or lGO acres of raw land that three or four minutes. a white man, conditioned as they are, could do nothing with l\Ir. MONDELL. One minute. and the ownership of which to the Indian is simply a burden. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Wyoming asks unani Of course, they can not be expected to go out on sagebrush mous consent to have his time extended one minute. I s there plains and grub out the brush and dig their laterals, or to go obj~ctlon? out on the dry farms, w:here irrigation is not possible, and with There was no objection. out funds cultivate, plant, and reap. 1\Ir. l\IONDELL. l\Iy proposition is this : You can not get The CHAIRl\IAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyoming blood out of a turnip. You can not wring a fortune or a liveli llas expired. hood from a stone. The Indian will not become self-supporting Mr. .hl.O:XDELL. .Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to unless he is assisted, where he has not the stock, the machinery, proceed for five minutes more. This is a very important matter. or the seed. . l\Ir. FERRIS. l\Ir. Chairman, I hope the gentleman will not I would not give it to him, but I would loan it to him, and it take any more time on this amendment. The committee is con has been proYed conclusively to the satisfaction of anyone who suming no time at all and the gentleman is consuming much will investigate these records that some of these Indians hnYe time. returned these moneys from time to time and in small sums Mr. MONDELL. l\Ir. Chairman, I do not expect to talk again until they finally, in many cases, ha>e entirely wiped out their on this particular item. obligations; and others are wiping them out. They re~urn Mr. FERilIS. Oh, the gentleman ho1Jes to continue to talk. these sums; they are learning the habits of business; they are 1012 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. JANUARY 4, Jeaming tlleir obligations; they become more self-respecting. undoubtedJy subject to th point of order. Howe\er, before If n-e do not do that, we mu t continue as we are in this bill making the point of order, which I intentl to make, I wnnt to to give them the moneys of the good people of this country say that, on line 8, page 6, there is an appropriation of $300,000 without expectinO' a return of the sums necessary to put them to encourage agricultUl'e among the Indians, which covers the on their feet nnd start them in business. point which the gentleman has referred to \ery completely. The CIIAIIl::\l.A.....~. The time of the gentleman has again ex Mr. MONDELL. Not reimbursiable: pired. Mr. FERRIS. However, the item has already been agreed to Mr. ~JANN. Ur. Chairman, I think, possibly, on llie general so that even if the amendment was not subject to the point of purpose which the o-entleman from Wyoming has in view I order, I take it that it would not be the judgment of the com mi<>'ht be in accord. The gentleman stated a number of times mittee to adopt the amendment. However, I make the point of in the cour e of hi addres to the committee that this money order. had been returned so completely by the Indians that the Gov- Mr. MONDELL. Will the gentleman yield for a mom'ent? rnment might well take the chn.nce of making the appropria The item to which the gentleman has ju ;t referred is an appro tion. I have such high regard for the statement of the gentle priation chargeable to the people of the United States and no man from Wyomincr that I am going to call his attention to a dollar of which is to be returned. little report, so he can more fully explain that. Two years ago Mr. FERRIS. Undoubtedly, but the gentleman at great we made an appropriation for this same purpose, reimbursable, length and with considerable force urg-ed as an original propo :mcl we ha:rn a report from the Secretary of the Interior as to sition that the Federal Goyernment should not ex~nd any the expenditure of that fund. There was expended under that thing at all on the Indians. appropriation $151.70 for seeds, trees, and so forth, Flathead, Now, that policy is so well defined and so well recognized by Mont.; $150 for the same purpose nt Pechanga, Cal.; $687 for everyone, that we must care for the indigent Indians all over li¥e stock at Soboba, Cal, and $107.66 for implements, harness, the country, that the gentleman's argument must of necessity and so forth; $1,43G.50 for Iive stock at Santa Fe, N. Mex.; fall. $495 for live stock at Shawnee, Okla.; $737 for live stock at Jlilr. MONDELL. T.he gentleman from Oklahoma wants to be Walker River, Nev.; and the total amount expended for en fair, and he generally is fair, but when he says I have argued couraging industry among the Indians out of that appropriation at great length that we should not do much of anything for was $4,541.06. It was a fund made specifically reimbursable, the Indians, he certainly misstates my position. and we learn by the report of the Secretary of the Interior ~Ir. FERRIS. I did not mean to misinterpret the gentleman; that it has been reimbursed to the extent of $150. Out of $4,541.06 but his argument is that we should not do anything for them expended-- from the Federal Treasury, which I intended to say to the Mr. MILLER. Will the gentleman yield? gen tie-man. Mr. l\IANN. I am going to yield for an explanation. I have 1\fr. MONDELL. On the contrary, so fur as possible we no doubt it is forthcoming-$150 was returned. The gentle should teach the Indian that he must eare far himself and, so man from Wyoming very often referred to the fa.ct that wher far as he is able, to reimburse the Federal Government for its eYer we had made the~e appropriations and these expenditures a si tance. that they were promptly reimbursed', so I thought I would Mr. FERRIS. And with what the gentleman says I am in can his attention to thls official communication on the subject. accord to a large extent, but I have referred to the Indians all i\Ir. 1\IILLER. The gentleman from Dlinois is aware of the over the country which the Government must look after. There- fact that these expenditures are loans that were made during fore, Mr. Chairman, I ask for a ruling on the point of order. the past year. Does the gentleman think it probable or likely The CHAIRMAN. The Chair belieyes this provides for new or proper that they should be returned so- soon as this? and original legislation, and therefore the Chair sustains the 1\lr. MANN. I did not suppose they would all be returned, point of order. but the appropriation was made two years ago. I did not as The Clerk read as follows : ume that a repayment of $150. which does not begin to equal That superintendents and acting superintendents in charge of Indi:in ) the reservations, schoors, irrigation and allotment projects are hei:eby au interest on the investment, is a very large reimbursement of thorized and eIIlpQwered to administer the oath of office required of \ the appropri'ation. employees placed under their jurisdiction. .Mr. MILLER. Would the gentleman expect when a loan is l\Ir. l\fO~~. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike ont the made for frrn stock that it will be repaid during the exact last word. I regret that the gentleman from Illinois [i\Ir. season in which the loan was made? l\IANN] did not have more time in which to add.res the com · .Mr. l\.IANN. Certainly not; and it would not have to be paid mittee on the interesting subject we had unde-:c discussion a during the exact season by any means. The appropriation was moment ago-, for in his discussion he only got far enough to refer nmde for the fiscal year 1912, that is true, but it became avail to one reimbursable item, made available very recently, and he able on the 1st day of July, 1911. I should suppose there was unable by ~ason of the lapse of time to- rrP! ~~':~ :::: = would possibly be some of it reimbursed by this time. How cases where reimbursable items were contained- in an appropri eyer, I simply call the attention of the gentleman, who is going ation bill some time ago and where Indians have at times made to put in the REconn a statement of how it has been reimbill'sed, repayments. For instance, as to the Tongue River item, which to these facts. I would be glad to see those statements. the gentlem::m had not time to refer to, although he has it be Mr. MO~"'DELL. I would be very glad to 1·ead. the· gentleman fore him, I find in that case the Indians have been repaying some of those statements now if I had the time. quite rapidly. I will pl:l.ce in the RECORD a statement of the Mr. FERRIS. .Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Wyoming Tongue River fund. has offered an ~mendment which is full of legislation and is The statement is as follows: R eport of" Purcha~e a[ implements, ttc.,for Indians of TOTl{fue River Reservation, Mont. (reimbursable)," as of date No». SO, 1!J1Z. Payments. Balance Ac due by cotmt Ilene.ficiary. Artic-les. Da.teof Item cost. Total cost. beneficiary No. purchase. on or be Date. Amount . fore June 30, WHi. Nov. 25,1911 $25.07 } $150.00 } $158.19 July 1,1912 10.00 114. 93 8.19 { Oct. 25, 1911 . 19 Dec. 4,1911 10.00 } 2 Walter .Ant...... 1 stallion .... _...... May 26, 1911 175.00 175.00 Dec. 31,1911 80.00 75.00 {June 12, 1912 10. 00 (_36 } 3 W1'lliamBlackeaa-Ie {2-00poundsoats •••.•..•••...... ••••...•... May 9,19ll 18_54 {N._o_v_d· 2·0·,-19_ 1_1_ _ 4..36 •....•.....• o ·····-··········· 76.5poundspotatoes ..•.. _•..•...... •••...... June 10,1911 14.18 0 14.18 ...... • 4 ThomasBlackwhitem:m_ •...... 150poimdspotatoes ...... •.••••...... June 1,1911 2.52 2.52 Nov. 14,1912 2.52 ····· · · -···· 5 DonaldBrady {500poundsoats ...... •.• _...... •...... May 1,19ll 1.50 · · · · · · · · · · · -· · ·: · · · · · · 300 pounds potatoes ..••• -· -· .....•...•... __ . May 3, 1911 5.47 1~: ~ }- ...... 12. 97 July 10, 1012 5. 00 } 6 George Brady. _•...... •..• .• -·... 1 sull..--y plow •...... - · •.•• _••••.• _...... • . . M.ay 5, 1911 33.50 33.50 { Oct. 31,1912 2S.50 - · -··-···· · 7 Robert Bearblack ..... _. _...... • . 339 pounds oats...... • ...... June 1, 19ll 8.37 a. 37 •.•••••... _..•..•••..... _.. s. 37 s Charles Bearcomesout {351 pounds oats ...... ·----··········-··· ..... do ....•.. 7. 9 } · · · · -· · · · · · - - · 155 poimds potatoes __...... ••....•••... July 5, 1911 3.08 10. 97 ....••... - .....•••••.. - . . . . 10. 97 9 Charles Bigback ...... _...... _.. 156 pounds potatoes-seed.. __ .. ··-··· •••.•.. June 1,1911 3.93 3. 93 Sept. 2, 1912 1. !)3 June l.5,1911 1 150.00 } 1.5.~:~) 36 10 mnton Bigleg .•....•...... {U~ ~~~Iid5oafi.~:::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~; ~:m1 15.36 174.4.5 13G.53 9.00 ~~~·do~:~. 9.00 600poundspotatoes ..•••. _ •..•• · --·········· May 10,1911 . !Dec. 10, 1911 5.00 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- HOUSE. 11013 Report of" Pureha$tr of implements, etc., for Indian,s of Tongue Rii·er Resenation, Mont. (reim1>U1'Sablc) ,'' as of dale Nov. 30, 191B--Continued. Payments. Balance due by Ac Date of beneficiary count Beneficiary. Articles. purchase. Item cost. Total cost. on or be No. Date. Amount. fore June 30, 1916. 1 $100.00 11 William Bites ...... H~~rid.S.oats:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : - ~~~~d.o. ~~~~~- 11.33 } ~111.33 Slll. 33 12 B Ir b {1 ,025 pounds oats ...... •...... June l, 1911 15.37 24.44 en ix Y• •· · ·• •••· ·· · •• · · •· · · · · · · 600 pounds potatoes ...... •...... July 10, 1911 9.07 } {~~d}.1::~~~- $1~:~~ :::::::::::: 325 pounds oats ...... June 15, 1911 8.52 ~~~do _1 ~ ~~~~. ~: ~~ 150 pounds potatoes ...... do ...... 2.52 May 17,1912 24.07 I 13 ArthurDlindman ...... lsfa.Jlion ...... •r ..... July 15,1911 100.00 335. 28 Nov. 25 ,1911 48.17 200. 74 • 2 mares...... Apr. 28, 1911 200.00 Sept. 14, 1912 3. 26 t share in drill ...•.... ~ - ..••...... June 15, 1912 24.24 1 l Nov.25,1911 23.25 1 set harness ...... -~ ...... May 26, 1911 33. 26 1 J hn B ,.._, h 226pounds potatoes ...... do ...... 4. 23 14 o U.wuo om..··· · ·· · ··········· 150 pounds potatoes ...... do ...•... 2.52 47. 61 1450 pounds potatoes ...... do ...... 7.60 l r:r: :~::: :: :::: :::::::::::: :; L · Bl · h k {1 stallion...... Apr. 24, 1911 100.00 105. 01 ...... -- 105. 01 l v ows u . aw ·· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 300 pounds potatoe3...... June 15, 1911 5. 01 } Aug. 61 1912 14. 98 } l6 Eli b th D n {1 stallion...... May 1 1911 100.00 } 105. 08 Oct. 31, 1912 30. 00 55.02 za e · urns.·············· ·j 280 pounds potatves...... June 10, 1911 5. 08 {A.ug. 6, 1912 5. 08 17 Andrew Callsfirst ...... SOO pounds potatoes ...... June 9, 1911 5.47 5. 47 ...... 5.47 1 Joseph Crazymule...... 452 pounds oats...... June 1, 1911 11.16 11.16 ...... ••.•.•. 11.16 19 Floyd Clubfoot...... 100 pounds oats...... :May 5, 1911 2. 18 2. 18 2.18 1 10 39.88 !20 Floyd Clubi>ot and William Swal- { .12 W • • • • • • • • · • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • ····.do······· 53. 90 {...... 0 6.62 ~~~-~~~: ~~~~: iflf} 28. 94 low. i hi~g:~~-~~~~~:::::::: :: ::::::::::::: ::: :: :: :: :~~:: :: :: : 7.4Q } .... do...... 7.40 21 John Divcsbaclnvard...... 150 pounds potatoes...... June 10, 1911 2. 73 ara 2~ 22 Albert Duster ...... 12 fruit trees ...... 1 ov . 151 1911 2. 70 2.70 ·May.. io;i9i2· ·······i7ei· ...... : .. J b E l r th {392 pounds oats ...... Tune 1, 1911 5.88 _1 {Oct. 26, 1911 5. 88 ....•...... 23 aco agcca crs ..•...... lsctharness ...... · ...... do ...... 33.26 } 39 4 .... do...... 33.26 ...... Honr Elksh lders {550 pounds oats ...... May 21 1 1911 13.11 24 Y ou · ·· ··••••··· · · · · 150 pounds potatoes ...... July 5, 1911 2.52 } 15. 63 15.63 100.00 37.00 } 1. 50 20.00 4.3.00 25 Allred Fiilie< ______------l ~*:: t:L:- _: :: ::: : : : : :: :: ::: ::: : : t~~~~:i:: :::: 33.50 43.19 8.19 75.00 l 75.CO 75.00 20 Dick Fisher .....•...... •...... t,~;0~~oats~:::::::::::::: :: :::: ::::::: -~~~do.~·-~~~~- 19.16 3,076 pounds oats...... do ...... 57.52 Eug F""hcr l50 POl.J!ldS potatoes ...... •...... do ...... 2. 75 27 13. 50 136. SS Dec. 31, 1911 33.50 103. 38 cne is ····_·················· 10.45 H~~~~~~~~::: : ::: ::::: :::::: : ::::::::: ·li1:/~H~if 33.50 28 Edgar Fighting bear...... 1 ~ share in plow...... May 5, 1911 13. 29 l 13. 29 2lJ John ca ymulo {310 po~ds potatoes ...... June 15, 1911 19-4.3 r z v • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • • ! share in plow...... May 5, 1011 13.29 {~~~-~:~~ ~~~~: ...... ~flf :: : : : : : ~~·: ~ 156 pounds potatoes ...... June 3, 1911 62.61 " t Oct. 25, 1911 2. 61 } . 30 Ed ward Gray ...... • . . • • • ...... { 1 ~fa.llio;n ...... do ...... lC0.00 147. 61 {Nov. 251 1911 47.CO } 53. 00 ~ .,hare m horse...... June 10, 1!>11 45.00 May 1, 1911 45. ()Q 3 1 9.45 } /July 1, 1912 9. 4.5 293. co 31 Arthur Ghostb~L. ....••..•...... {~ ~;e~~~-~~~~ ·.:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~;r ;m~ 300.00 ·309. 4.5 \Nov. 4, 1912 7. 00 100 pounds oats...... May 5, 1911 2.18 } 33.50 41.53 12 71 32 Robert Ilardground ...... {I ~;~7ow : ::: :: :::::::: ::: :::: ::::: ::: :: :: :: : :: :::~~:::::::: 5. 85 r~~~g~~~~~~~: ~:ii } · July 1, 1912 9. 21 l.035 pounds seed oats...... May 1, 1911 19.35 Oct. 25, 1911 5. 39 I 33 Williamilanis ...... •....•...... {750poundspotatoes ...... May 3,1911 12.55 } 80.37 . 1 grain drill...... :A.pr. 23, 1911 48.47 ~~?~g:~·:~~~: lH~ 4.4. 90 1.64 1. 64 ! 1.04 4.92 } 67.15 ~ :~~~a~-:~~~ ::: :: ::::::::::::: :::: :{~~~;~~;-~~~~~:::: ::: ::::::: :::::::::: : ~:; l~m 62.23 l stallion...... June 12, 1911 150.00 ~::~o~~:- ~~~~ - ~i~ !::::~::::::: 14.04 July 1,1912 16.00 36 Charles Hart...... •...... _... 936 pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 201.87 Nov. 1, 1911 14. 04 112. SO lplow ...... May: 5,1911 35.00 Oct. 25, 1911 35. 00 l300 pounds potatoes...... July 10, 1911 2.83 l .. .. do...... 2.83 37 Floyd Highwalking. . .• • • ...... • • • . . 450 pounds potatoes...... May 9, 1911 8.19 8.19 lJune 30, 1912 8.19 . .•••••...... , Richard Hollowwood {239 pounds oats ...... •...... May 1, 1911 5.37 .....----·- " 3 · · ··· ··· ···· · · · 155 pounds potatoes ...... June 1, 1911 2.61 } 7. 98 ··············· ············ 7.98 39 Thomas Ilorseroads ...•..... _.... . 750 pounds potatoes...... May 10, 1911 8.18 8.18 8.13 350 pounds oats...... May ll, 1911 8. f8 32. 12 32.12 10 Hubert Hollowbreast...••••...... {620 po~ds rcotatoes ...... June 15,1911 12.27 } ~share mp ow ...... May 5, 1911 11.17 41 Ilowlingcoyote ...... •••••••••..... 112pounds oats ...... May 1,1911 2.52 2.52 ··············· ············ 2.52 200.00 JDec. 1, 1911 9. 65 \Yilliam Ironh::md ~:fuOZ,n.:: :: :::::::: ::: :::::::::::::: ::::::: :::::~~: .".: ::: : 100.00 290. 00 42 · · · · · · · · • • • • · · · · · · ji150 pounds potatoes...... May 11, 1911 2. 75 155 pounds potatoes ...... June 5,1911 2. 60 305. 35 l~~ Payments. Balance due by Ac Date of count Beneficiary. Articles. Item cost. Total cost. beneficiary o. purchase. on or be Date. Amount. fore June 30, 1916 . 51 Henry Littlewhiteman...... 600 pounds potatoes ...... May 10,1911 $6.54 86.54 $6.54 Oct. 25 , 1911 Juna 15, 1911 100.00 S44. 00 May 11, 1911 2. 75 l05. 27 Sept. 12, 1912 4. 75 I 51.25 52 •l.ittlewhiteman ...... ··········· - --{~~t~~~~~:~~~~~~::::::::::::::::::::::::: June 1, 1911 2.52 } Oct. 25, 1912 2.52 Oct. 25, 1911 2. 75 ! 0 12.87 1 plow ...... May 5.1911 35.00 M:a/ 3o; i9i2- 22.13 53 Laban Litllewolf ... _...... _. _ {632 pounds oats .... _...... May 1; 1911 9.48 50· 13 Oct. 25, 1911 600 pounds potatoes ...... May 5, 1911 5.65 } 9.48 lOct. 30, 1911 5.65 2 300.00 Oct. 25.1911 3S.OO M Robert Lituewo1L...... H ~e~=s-oafs::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: 1~~: Um 11.50 311. 50 Dec. 20; 1911 161.67 6 {Oct. 25, 1911 11.50 55 WilliamLittlewolI...... 592poundsoats ...... May 1,1911 8.83 8.88 8. SS ~ ~If~~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~~~- 21:mt 170100.00.00 } rn Charles Loneelk ...... 250 pounds oats ...... _ May 1, 1911 6.55 290.23 139.4.7 j 112 pounds oats .... _...... _... _...... do ...... 2. 77 600 pounds potatoes ...... _...... do ...... 10.91 57 George Longroach ...... 1,360 pounds potatoes ...... _...... June 5, 1911 24.25 24.25 12.23 58 William Medicinebear ...... 250 pounds oats ...... May 21, 1911 &.08 6.08 6.03 310 pounds potatoes ...... May 1, 1911 59 Rb tMed'. b ll !plow ...... May 21,1911 33.506.131 6.13 } o er irme u ··· -- · -- · · -- · · · - 100 pounds oats .... _...... _...... do ...... 2.18 33.50 4.. 78 1250 pounds oats ...... June 5, 1911 3. 75 1.15 60 Mexican Manuel ...... _...... __ .. 150 pounds potatoes ...... _...... May 11, 1911 2. 75 2. 75 -•• . .•. .. ---. . - .....• - -.. . - 2. 7:; (il Henry Playingbear...... 575 pounds oat~ ...... _.. . _...... _.. __ May 9, 1911 10.06 10.06 Oct. 31,1912 10.06 ...... 523 pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 7.84 } f2 John Powderface...... {300 pounds potatoes...... May 11, 1911 5. 47 15.58 15.5S 150 pounds potatoes...... June 10, 1911 2. 27 M p {515 pounds potatoes...... Apr. 10, 1911 9.16 } June 30, 1911 9. 16 ...... €3 ary owe 11 -- ·· ------.. -- · · -- 3,141 pounds oats.... __...... Apr. 11, 1911 47.12 56· 28 {Oct. 25, 1911 47.12 ...... 64 William Redbird ..... _...... 34~ pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 7.().5 7.65 ...... 7.65 65 Mary Redcherries...... 155 pounds potatoes...... June 5, 1911 2.60 2.60 ...... 2.6J H R d k {300 pounds potatoes ...... _...... do ...... 5.01 } 5.01 ...... 66 16. 75 16. 75 ...... 16. 75 } 8.68 25. 43 . . • . • ...... • • . . • . . • . . . 25. 43 10.80 10. 80 Oct. 30, 1911 10. 80 ...... : ~:~::;:::•_•:::::••••:••--• {~If@·~~-~-:•••••••-•--::: __ :••••-~;~Jniil 10.4.51 69 Rb rtR'd Lk 190.Jpoundsoats ...... do ...... 16.89 o e I gewa ' er ------· · · -- -- · 750 pounds potatoes...... June 11, 1911 13.64 45. 98 {~~~·d:~ ·. ~~~~. ~: ~ } 10. 15 300 pounds potatoes ...... _...... May 11, 1911 5.00 .... do...... 5.00 ~, H b t n·. fi {215poundsoats ...... Apr. 11, 1911 5. 17 } 0 u er ismg ire···· .. -· · · -- .. -- .. ~pounds potatoes...... June 5, I!Hl 7.51 12.68 12.63 Nov. 12, 1912 150.00 1 stallion ...... __ ...... do ...... 150.00 Nov. 25, 19ll 5.81 2,.387 pounds oats .... _... _...... do ...... 35.81 Nov. 11, 1912 13.00 904 pounds oats ...... do ...... 2'2 . .33 Nov. 25,19n 22.33 . PbT R' · 150 pounds pot:itoes ...... do ...... 2. 73 .... do ...... 2. 73 71 266. 51 11p ... ismgsun · · · -.. -- · · · · ·· .. · · - 300 pounds potatoes ...... do ...... 4.53 . ... no ...... 4.53 .\share in drill...... do ...... 24.24 .... do ...... 26.87 ' i7 frnit trees ...... _...... _ . .. .. do ...... 1.50 .. .. do ...... 14.24 1 harrow ...... _...... do ...... 25.37 Nov. 11, 1912 10. 00 1 I .... do ...... 17.00 72 Antoine Ilondean...... 150 pounds potatoes ...... _...... __ June 10, 1911 6. 80 6.80 Aug. 15, 1912 6. 0 750 pounds pot.a toes...... July 10.1911 11. 31 11.31 73 William Rondeau ...... _ 1,0'.?..!- pounds oats ...... May t; 1911 15. 36 63.39 ~~~d;~,-~~~~- 1.36 {1 plow .... _...... , ...... _. . . . Aug. 10, 1911 Aug. 12, 1912 14..00 36.72 } Nov. 2.:;, 1911 35. 72 790 pounds oats .... _...... __ ...... _._..... May 1, 1911 19.52 l 19.52 .. 4 F d R dsto e 641 pounds. oats ...... _. . do ...... 9.60 9.60 ' re oun n -- .. · -.. · -- · · .. · · .. 1,050 pounds potatoes...... June 10, 1911 9.91 64.39 I~~;~~t~~~~: 9.91 1 25.36 L .. do ...... 25.36 1 150.00 I June 30, 1912 !l.10 75 Clay T. Rowland ...... 39.16 200.05 Sept. 30, 1912 .32 189. 81 {H¥i600 pounds~i~:~~:~~:-~:::::::::::::::::::::::::: potatoes._._...... l .~~!~May 010,~;-~~~~- 1911 10.89 } {Oct. 31, 1912 . 79 } 1 plow ...... _ Apr. 15, 1911 60.62 6.50 76 Willis T Rowland 1 stallio~...... Apr. 29, 1911 150.00 5.0'.) 204.12 · ··· .. · .. · · · -- · .. · · ~share m mower...... May 27, 1911 229.12 ~~~·do~·-~~~~ _ 13.50 { .... do ...... } 1300poundspotatoes ...... June 10,1911 5.00 13.50 I Nov. 25, 1911 14..37 'i7 z Rowland {2,854 pounds oats...... _...... _...... May 1, 1911 53.37 ac · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · -· · · 1 plow ..... _...... _...... May 5, 1911 } 88. 37 July ~1912 10.00 29.03 35.00 {Nov. 25,1911 35.00 } June 12., 1911 100.00 0 35.00 riec ~ 20~ i9ii · 31. 25 May 8, 1911 175.00 289.30 Nov. 25, 1911 14.30 200.00 Williom R=J ------_ May 1,1911 11. 78 .... do ...... 5.00 ---l61r~~~;~L::.::::.: •• :•• :: ::: June l, 1911 2.52 I Sept. 12, 1912 3. 75 Apr. 9, 1911 21.68 l I 27. 2 July 15, 1911 6.14 } 27.82 ~~ ~o~:S:!~~~~::::::::::::::::::::: {tt1foE~E~:~~::::::::::::::::::::::: .:: May 11, 1911 10.91 10.91 10. 01 -~i~:-~:mr ir~- June 12, 1912 150.00 ...... 62. 0 s1 Charles Scalpcane ...... - H~ta~i:d.S-:POiaioos::::::::::::::::::::::::: June 1, 1912 2.52 152· 52 May 15, 1912 10. 00 Oct. 25, 1912 2. 52 May 11. 26 June 30, 1911 11. 26 I...... 10, 1 1911 11.26 82 Mrs. Lucy Spang ...... r~~f~~~-~~~~: :::::::::::::::::::::::: M:ay 1, 1911 8.55 S3 .Alfonso Spang ..... _...... _..... _ 1415 pounds potatoes .... _.. _...... _...... _ May 10, 1912 4.52 38. 44 Aug. 26, 1912 .50 37.94 tl disk h?-rrow ...... _.. Apr. 22, 1912 25. 37 } Nov. 25, 1911 5. 24 200poundsoats ...... May 1,1911 5. 24 .... do ...... 7.20 2 horses...... May 25, 1911 .... do ...... 8.19 250.00 .... do ...... 1. 60 84 E ne Standingclk 1 harr.ow · ·- ·· · --- -· ··· -·· · -··· ··· · · · · ·· -· · · · May 1, 1911 7.20 195. age · -- · --• • • · · · · - · · 450 pounds potatoes . . _...... May 5, 1911 311. 58 Oct. 2-5, 1911 37.35 7 8.19 Sept. 11, 1912 2.00 20 fruit trees...... Oct. 15, 1911 1. 60 ) 1 plow ...... -...... May 5, 1911 .... do ...... 13.00 l 39.35 Oct. 31, 1912 15.00 Nov. 4, 1911 26.13 2.18 E5 John Standsintimber ...... {~~~~~~~~: :: :: : : :: :::::: :: :: ::: :: : : :: 1:::: :~~:::: :: : 13. 30 25.4 25.48 6GO pounds potatoes ...... June 1, 1911 10.00 1913. CONGRESS!~ :r L RECORD-HOUSE. ·1015 :Re-port of" Purchase of implemmt-s, ac..,for 'lnilians ·of Tongue :River Reserootirm, 'Mont. ·(reimbursable)," as of date "l'tov. 30, 1912-Continued. Payments. Balance due by .A.c Date of beneficiary cotmt Beneficiary. ! Articles. purchase. Item cost. Total cost. on or be ·No. Date. .A.mount. fore Jnna 30, 1916. $14.31 \ $38.55 June 18, 1912 14.31 a6 William Swallow ...... •... {~~~ -~~~~ ~::::::::::::::::~~::~~ =: Af:~ ~:m~ .24.24 J 24.24 87 Jules Seminole ...... •...... 150poundspotatoes....•.. . - --···------June 10,1911 2.27 2.27 2. 27 &lpt. 4, 1912 10.00 } 88 Louis Seminole...... 1 stallion ...... --·-~········---·-·. May 2, 1911 100.00 lOO.OO {Oct. 31, 1912 10.00 80. 00 7.72 , 7.72 } 2.73 1 33. 50 20. 95 89 Joseph Shell.. ····· -· · · -•• • •• ·v·· -- 43.95 J~~~~~;:~~~~: 7.55 U1 ~~=:-:::i~:: ::: ::::: ::: ::: : : : : : : : : : iE; J; UH 2. 73 }Nov . 21, 1912 5.00 Jan. 31, 1912 112.50 P.O Da .d 8 eetmed:cine {1 stallion. ... . - .... -.••••••.•••••• ---·-· - Jnno 15, 1911 225.00 .June lS, 1912 12.50 I - vi w ··-···-·~····· 750poundspotatoes ...•••••..•••••-·- ··- -- May 9,19ll 13.64 238. 64 July 1, 1912 5.00 95.00 lOct. 25, 1911 13.64 15. 56 } 91 John Smith. ---.. -·- --·· · · ··· ·· · · - · {~£3~~~dsd~gfa~oes·. ·_::: ~:::: ~- :::: :~· : =~: . ~~ 1~; m~ 2.83 18.39 18.33 150.00 } 17.00 } 92 Thomas Sioux ...... • -- ..••••••••. · 1 Uio~1:f~ciS·oafS.": ~:::: :: :: :::: ::::: ~:.:.:=.: :~ ~~ 2t:im 7. 80 7.80 "133.00 93 Soldierwoll. _...... ··--·-··· ....•.. 150 pounds potatoes .. ···-····--··-··-·-. Jum 1,1911 2.52 2.52 .2. 52 94 Ben Shoulderbiado {321 pounds oats .... - ••.. --...... -...... - ... . May 1,.1911 7.22 } 10.28 · ~ ---··········-··- 155poundspotatoes ...... •.•.. - .....•... June 1~911 3.06 10.28 n~~ :::: ::::::::::::::: ::::: :: :: : ==-..:: t-r 15: m~ 100.0045.00 l 95 Charles Spottedelk .....•....••..... 1600poundspotatoes~.--··---·······-----··-· May 11,1911 10. 91 184. 51 184.. 51 20 frait trees ...... ••.. ___ ••. -·------Nov. 15,1911 1. 60 1 mower. .'" ...... ••.••. ·····-- ··--·--·- June 27, 1911 27.00 96 Charles SpottedwoU ...•.•••....•. .. J.55 pounds potatoes ...... ··--··-··-····· .. June 5, 1911 2. 60 2. 60 May 5, 1911 1.63 . 97 1 stallion ...... ••••. ·-----·· ·-. June 12, 1911 125.00 } 97 Patrick Spottedwoll•. •... ••• '" ..... 655 pounds oats ...... ·- . . .•... ··--· .... May 1, 1911 14. 73 142.46 142.40 {150 pounds potatoes ...... _...... __ .. May 11, 1911 2. 73 Nov. 25, 1911 Nov. 21, 1911 25.002.00 } Dec. 21, 1911 15.00 98 John Sunro:ids... . • ... .•••. .. ..•... 1 stallion ...... __ ...... Apr. zt, 1911 100. 00 100.00 A.pr. 9,1912 3.00 40.00 Sept. 17, 1912 5.00 Jan. 31, 1912 10.00 Nov. 25, 1911 . l,2711pounds oats. ·--······· ······-····· · ·-- J.fay 11,1911 19. 071 l 19.071 S9 Charles Teeth 1 stallion ...... May .4,1911 100.00 1 5.00 • • • • •· ··•· ··· ·· · --- · -· 600 pounds potatoes .. __ ·-···-....•.....•...... do ...... 10.!H 132. 50 ~~·d:. : ~~~. 2.91 103.00 l150 pounds potatoes ..... '" ..•••. .... _...... June 1, 1911 2.52 lNov. 2.3, 1911 2. 52 l stallion ...... ••••...... •...•... Apr. !!8,1911 150.00 ~~~·d;_5: ~~~~. 25.00 1:85. 00 Sept. 4,1912 21.003.01 24..23 3i2. G6 NOV. 23, 1912 21.63 l 275.30 100 Austin TexM ...... ••.•.•••..... i:~~-~~f~:::::: ::::::::::::: ~:=~:: l~ ~;1gil 10.91 July 1, 1911 13.23 150 pounds potatoes ...... •••. _. _.'"'"..... June 1, 1911 2.52 {Oct. 25, 1911 10. 91 l l .... do ...... 2.52 349 pounds oats ...... •••••. ··--·-··· ·-···- May 1,1911 7.·85 7.85 } 101 Henry Twobulls...... • • . . . . {150 pounds potatoes ...... •.. June 5, 1911 2.51 13. 42 e~~do _1: :~~. 2.15 3.42 155 pounds potatoes ....•.•.. -···· .·····--··. June 15, 1911 3.06 } 30.3 pounds potatoes...... May 9, 1911 5.12 ~~~d;_o: :~~~. 345.12. 76 100.00 June 18,1912 5.24 l 55.00 102 Bert Twomoons .....••••••.....•.. : k~~~~;;d8·oat.S ."::::::::::~:::::::: : ::::: :: Ai~ 2{;~m 4.20 115.24 Oct. 31, 1912 5.00 325 poundspotatoes .....••.••~········"'·--· May 9, 1911 5.93 .Dec. 20, 1911 4.20 1 l ... . do ...... 5.92 103 Seth W alkin<•bird {628 pounds oats - ... -. -. .•••••• - ••••••• - . -. - . May 1, 1911 11. 74 } l s ·········-········ 750poundspotatoes ...... •..••••.•.....•.... June 10,1911 7.0G 18.80 Aug. 30, 1912 8.00 10.80 104 John w al.king horse {401 pounds oats ...... • __ •. '" •.••• _.. _'" • _. June 15;io11 1L04 } U.10 14..10 · · · • • • • •• · • • · · · · · 155 pounds potatoes ..••. _.. -~ •• .. · ·- ·...... May 1, 1911 3.06 105 Richard Walkslast ...... ••... 600 pounds potatoes ..... -····-··--·--.....•. May 10, 1911 J.0.89 10.89 June 30, 1911 10. 89 -- --- ••. ··-· Nov. 25, 1911 1 stallio~······· ····--·········--··-··· ·· ·· ·· J1me 15,1911 275.00 ___ .do ...-- --- 8.686.75 106 William Wanderingmedicine 'sharemplow...... ••...... May 5,1911 16.75 ___ _do ...... l •205.00 I 9.20 · • • · · · · 350 pounds oats...... June 1.3, 1911 309. 63 8.68 une .18, 1912 10.00 405 pounds potatoes .....•••• _..•••...... _ ..... do ...... 9.20 1 .... do .. ·--·· 70.00 Oct. 25,1911 7.20 . . {lharrow ...... ·-············--·····-····-· May 1,1911 7. 20 107 . .. . do ...... 13.64 Brrd Wild.hog .... ···-·········-···. 750 pounds potatoes .. ---· ·········· . .••...... do._ .. _.. 13.64 25. 84 ___ do ...... 4.00 300 pounds potatoes .....• ··••U•H ...••...... do. __ .... } 5.00 lune 30,1912 1:00 108 George \\hitebird . .•.••••••••••••.. 100 pounds oats ..... ········-·-·····~-~- . __ .. do.-· ._ .. 2.62 2.62 .2.62 109 Charles Whltecrane {227 pounds oats ...... -····••U••····--·-- . .. ___ .. do...... 5.10 } .7. 64 ············-··-- 152poundspotatges ····-·······----····-- . June 11,1911 2.54 7.64 o.v.: • .25.,lllll 10.00 1 stallion ...... •••.••_ •• ··-·----·-· .Apr. 2!, 1911 100.00 v. 24,1911 2.00 110 Arthur Whitedirt.. ..•••••••••_____ . 500 pounds oats ...... __ May l,19U { 13.10 :121. 29 .do ...•... 13.10 79.00 450 pounds potatoes ...... "''"-·· __ . May 11, 1911 8.10 } .do ...... 8.19 y 23,1912 8.00 111 Ernest Mexicancheyenne . .•. --· .•.. 155 pounds potatoes .....•••.•• ··-•• ·-- ___ __ June 51 1911 2.60 2. 60 GJune 30, 1912 2.GO 112 James Whitepowder...... •...... 420 pounds oats .. ···········-·-···-····· ----· May 1,1911 7.85 7. 85 July 1, 1912 4.00 3.85 113 Paul Wolfnamc...... ••• . . . . 500 potmds oats .. ~ - .. __ .•••.••••.••••.. _·- · ...... d.Q. ______• 7.50 7.50 7.50 .:N ov~. 25;i9ii- ...... 9: 38 · 625pounds oats .....•••....••••.•••..•...... do._ ..... 9. 38 1 114 Mack Wolfroads ...... •••••. _ .•.. 1 stallion ...... •.••...... May ·2,1911 . . ... do...... 56. 7G ·223. 24 { 300,00 312 21 Nov. 21,11J12 20.00 300 pounds potatoes .••••.• -••.•..• - ...... June 10, 1911 2.83 N o.v: •.25,1911 . 2. 83 115 l Richard Woodenleg ...• ·-····-····. 347 ponnds oats._ ...... •v· .. May .1;1911 ! 7.81 7. 81 Sept. lJ,1912 2. 84 4. 97 116 Hugh \Voodenthigh .....••...•.••. _ 1 hatTOW- •••••••••• ·······-···-·····-·· • ••. __ ..••. do.---· _. _ 8.56 8. 56 · · ········--·-· ---·····-··· .8.56 lstallion. - ·-··-·····-··-·-·- ···---·-··· -· June 15,1911 125.00 117 Ford Woundedeye 2 mares .... ·-··----·--·-····--····'"·---- May .4, 19ll 14.5.00 I 65 } 271.87 · ...... 150 pounds potatoes• ... ······--·········-··· .May 1,1911 2.52 281. 87 f~do~: ~~::. 9.35 ) l500po\1Ilds oats ...... _ .June 1,..1911 9.35 1 sta!Uon ...... -···· ····~- ··-- _ .June 12,1911 5 100.00 34.00 118 Abram Yellow-eyes ....••.••••••--·- 454poUndsoats ..•...••••.• o•······-v·-- · .May 1,1911 10.21 I 10.21 l 66.0J 1.50pounds-potatoes ...... ____ .June 5,-1911 2. 52 1J5.8o j ~~~~i: :;~~~: 2.52 1155 pounds potatoffi ...•. ~··~·-·····~>-·-- June 15,19U . 3,07 . ... do ...... 3.07 119 Wilbur Yelloweyes. ···--··········· 1 stallion ...... ·-· ~ ······-· ---- . ~ ...A.pr . . 2.:l,19ll 100.00 100.00 100.00 :100. 00 } 120 113.80 113.80 William Yellowwbe ...... ••.•...•. : {~~Pu~:~~~~~-:~~::::::· ::::::~:::: . ~:~~~~ :~~~:~~~~ : 8.565.24 } !share in p low ...... '" •.• --·_ .. -··-._.·- May .11,lllll 19.94 ~ov. 25,1911 121 19.94 } James Youngbird...... {225 pounds. oats.-. __.. ········-·-····----- . . ... do._._ ••.• 5.43 35:69 · . ... ao ....•.. .43 5. 00 ~ share gram drill .• --~- _ •.• -·-. __ --~ ·- ..May :i,.19.11 10...32 .{ . ... do ...••.. 10.32 I 1016 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE . ./ J ANUARY 4, Report of" Purchase of implements, etc.,for In-lians of Ton:1uc River Reservati'Jn, Mont. (reim'Jursa!>le)," as of date Nov. so, 191£-Continued. Payments. Balance Ac due by Date of beneficiary count Beneficiary. Articles. purchase. Item cost. Total cost. No. on or be - Date. fore June 30, 1916. ~~- 1 -~~~~~~~~~~~~~1,~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~- 1·~~~~~-1-~~~-1~~~~-1-~~~~~! 19. 94 } 122 10.32 $38.95 ...... _ ...... $38. 95 8.69 123 125. 00 125.00 Se'fbt. 19, 1912 $15. 50 109.50 :~:.:::ro::: ·:: :::::::::: i~;~:r· ~ ~1iJ~ 2..5. 37 ++ .. +.. : 24.231 10••• 12 y W d k j1 disk harrow. ___ .. . _.. . .. ·--·- ...... Aug. 22, 1911 25.37 r ov. 1, 1912 25.94 124 oung oo pee-er ...... !stallion ...... June 12,1911 184.35 r· . 109.2'J 125.00 1 19.12 650ponndsoats ...... May 1,1911 9. 75 ~ ~~cio~ '. ~~~~. 4.63 125 James Braidedlocks. _ .. _.. __ __ . _... 300 pounds potatoes ...... May 10, 1911 5.45 5. 45 ...... I 5.45 350 pounds oats ...... _...... _.... . Apr. 20, 1911 8.GS } 126 DaY:id Littleoldman ...... {!sharegraindrilL ...... •... ---·· June 7,.1912 24.24 199. 74 June 1 '1912 8.68 191.06 1 black-smithing outfit...... _.... _.. . Aug. 9, 1912 166.82 !stallion ...... Apr. 21,1911 100.00 } Apr. 27, 1911 100. 00 _•• __ ...•..• 127 Robert Yeliow!ox...... 300 pounds potatoes .. : ...... -. . May 9, 1911 5.47 { 2.52 107.99 {~~~-do2:5'.~~~- u~ :::::::::::: 128 John Yellowhorse . . ·········---- ... -~~~-Wo~~~~-~~~~:::::::::::::::::::::;; :: ~= trnU 2.52 2.52 ..... do. - ..... 2.52 ••••••.....• 129 6.30 6. 30 . -. .. do .. _... _ 6. 30 •••••• _.... . 130 ~~lli~~~~~1:~ :::: : :::::::::::: i8tfil~~~ -~ ~~ -_:::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~~r ~: mi 48. 47 48.47 May 14, 1911 23. 47 25. 00 131 7.51 7. 51 Oct. 25, 1911 7. 51 ••. ~· ...... _ 132 ..- : :: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : 8.38 8.38 . ... . do...... 8.38 -······· · ··- ~~ ~~~t;tifd ~ ~~~~ ~~~:::::::::::: : ::::::::: ~: · : :: ~!i !;i~H 8.23 } .. .. do . . _. . . . 8. 23 __ ...... 133 Charles Blackstone . .... _. _._ ...... {ao pounds potatoes ...... -. . . . . June 1, 1911 . 52 E3.'i5 ... . do...... 52 ...... 1 sulky plow._...... Apr. 15, 1912 45.lO { .... do...... 45. 00 . .. _...... 134 Clara Blackmedicine. ___ ... ___ ..... 450 pounds seed potatoes ...... _... _.---- June 12, 1911 7.54 189 pounds oats. __ ...... ·-· --· ___ . May 1, 1911 7. 54 j ~~~d;~'. ~~~~. 1~: ~! 1· ...... 13. 341 1 5.45 135 Paul Blackree. --- -·--··-· ··-··· .. . - iog_f~~~-~~~~~~:::::::::::::: : ::: : :::::: ~~ ~ , i~i} 8.56 12 mares ...... _...... Aug. 8, 1912 300. 00 327. 35 : : :·: ~~- :_: : : : : : . -. -.. - ~~ ~~ . 300. 00 136 John Blackwolf. _ ...... ___ . _...... 450 pounds potatoes ... -...... _.. _...... May 3, 1911 8.19 8.19 Nov. 2..5,1911 8.19 ...... 137 William Braidedlocks ...... _.. . 260 pounds oats ...... -. . _...... May 1, 1911 3.90 3. 90 Oct. 25, 1911 3. 90 ...... - lstallion ...... June 1,1911 ov. 25, 1911 200. 00 ...... _. 200.0011. 70 1 138 I Eenjamin Bearchum. - ···-·····-··· h88~~~~~~~toes::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~~. um 4.90 223.80 [ ::~~:: ::::: ~:~ ::::::::::~: j 1 harrow ...... __ .. _.. __ ...... May I, 1911 7. 20 .. do...... 7.20 ...... 139 EdwardBearquive -·--·-···-·····- 8S5poundsoats ...... _...... do ...... 13.20 13. 20 Oct. 25, 191l 13. 20 ...... -. - Th B h t {l,037poundsoats .. ····· · ·······-··--···- · ·· . .... do ...... 15. 56 } {· . -. do - ...... 15. 56 ...... _ 140 omas caver ear . - -.... -...... 155 pounds potatoes _ . _.... _.... _...... do ...... 2.60 1 · 16 .... do...... 2.GO ...... 141 August Bigbeaver ...... __ .. _.... 150 pounds potatoes .. -...... -.... June l, 1911 2.52 2.52 ..... do...... 2.52 ...... B · · B" h dm fl55poundspotatoes ...... June 15,1911 3.08 } 0 142 eniamm ig ea an············· \122 pounds oats .. _._...... May 1,.rnu 2. 74 5· 2 {N~v~ iJ;i9ii- ~:~~ :::::::::::: 105 pounds oats. __ ...... __ ...... --·.-· __ ...... do ...... 2. 75 } .... do...... 2.75 ...... 143 James Bignose .. _. -- ··-···-······ .. 150pounds potatoes .. ·· -- ······--··········· May 9, 1911 2. 73 14.()4 .... do...... 2.i3 ...... { 8. 56 { .... do...... 8. 56 ...... -- 5.93 } 144 4.24 10.17 fO~~do~'.~~~~- ~:~! :::::::::::: 145 :.:: =~:.~~;;;:: :: :: :: ~.re~~~:=·::::: --: ::::.:::: ::;t.~::::: 4.99 4.99 Nov. 25,1911 4.9:) ...... D "d B Id {350 pounds oats - .... _...... _...... _. . .. May 11, 1911 8.6 } . { .... do...... 8.68 ...... 146 avi oxe er ...... }shareinplow...... May 5,llHl 11.17 32 12 .... do .. _. . . . 11. 17 . _...... - 147 Joseph Brownbird...... 155 pounds potatoes .. - ...... June 15, Hlll 3.06 3. 06 Oct. 25, 1911 3. 06 ...... 148 Martin Bullsheep. __ ...... 150 pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 3.93 3. 93 Nov. 25 l!lll 3. 93 ...... 149 Fred Calf...... _. __ ...... 326 pounds oats ...... -.... . ·...... do .. . _.. . 7.33 7. 33 Oct . 25, 1911 7. 33 ...... 150 Charles Crawling ... _...... 310 pounds potatoes .. -...... -...... June 15, llHl 6.13 6. 13 -.... do-...... 6. 13 ...... 151 William Crazy head._ ...... _.. __ ... 600~ds potatoes ...... -...... May 9, 1911 10. 91 10. !ll ..... do...... 10. 91 ...... 152 33.50 33. 50 Nov. 25, l!Jll 33. 50 ...... 153 5.24 } {. .... do...... 5.24 ...... ~:~~!~~~~~~d~~S~--~~::::::::::: {~f~g!~~~~~~ ::::: :: :::: :::: ::::::::: ::~:: . ~fd-0~~ ~~~~- 8.55 13 · 79 , .... do...... 8. 55 ...... 154 J ohn Clubfoot. • _.. _. ... _.. . _. _. . . . . 300 pounds oats . - ...... A pr. 19, 1911 7.80 7.80 ..... do...... 7.80 ...... 155 M G E t {l,036 pounds oats .... __ ...... _... _. May 1, 1911 15.54 } _ { .. .. do ...... 15.~ ...... · · as man ...... 300poundspotatoes ...... •.... June 10,l!Hl 4.53 ·20 07 .... do...... 4.a3 ...... • 156 Th Elksh lde , {4-GO pounds oats .. -...... Apr. 21, lllll 10. 87 } omas ou rs· - · • · · -- · - · · · · 310 pounds potatoes...... June 15, 1911 6.14 17. 01 \~~·d;~'. ~~:: . 1gJ~ :: : : : : : : : : : : 157 Peter Firecrow. __ .. __ . ___ . .. _...... 225 pounds oats ...... -. .... _...... May, 1, 1911 5.06 5. 06 ov. 2..5, 1911 5. 06 . ' .. -...... - 168 Floyd Fisher. _...... _... 125 pounds oats...... May 15, 1911 3. 25 3. 25 . .... do ...... 3. 25 ...... - . - 159 HubertGrasshopper ...... 770poundsoats ...... May 1, 1911 11. 55 11. 55 Dec. 23, 1911 11. 55 ...... - 160 Colonel Hardrobe. __ .. _. _. . • ...... 155 pounds potatoes .. _.... _...... _...... June 5, 1911 2.60 2. 60 Oct. 25, 1911 2. 60 ...... - He H · had {150poundspotatoes ...... May 11 , 1911 2. 73 161 nry arry n ·-··--·-··-···--·· .. .. do ...... June 1, 1911 2.52 5.25 ..... do-·--··· 5.25 ...... 162 Charles Headswift ..... _...... 350 pounds oats_ ...... _..... Apr. 20, 1911 8.68 8. 68 . .... do . ___ . . . 8. 68 ..... -. . . . 163 John Highbear ... _...... ___ .. _... __ 300 pounds potatoes ...... _... _.. _... _._.. June 10, 1911 2.83 2.83 ..... do .... ___ 2.83 ...... 164 Albert Howlingantelope ... _. _...... 155 pounds potatoes_ ...... -_.. --.•. -· -_.... . June Hi, 11111 3.07 3.07 . .... do...... 3. 07 ...... 16-5 John Issues ...... _.. __ ._ .. __ ... lW pounds potatoes ...... _.. . ·-... _._.. . . . June 1, Hill 2.52 2.52 . .... do...... 2.52 ...... 166 Hugh Killsnight ...... __ .... 475 pounds oats - _...... •...... _.. _. May 1, 1911 • 10.68 10. 68 ..... do ... __ . . 10. 68 ...... - 167 Nancy Killsontop. __ ...... •..... _ 1 stallion .. .. - -...... _...... --- ...... May 2, 1911 100. 00 100. 00 Apr. 2, 1911 100. 00 ...... • 168 v· t rL"ttlechief1 {880poundsoats ...... •...... •••...... May 1, lllll 13. 20 } JS 0 ·--·········-·-··· · 150poundspotatoes ...... May 11, llUl 2. 73 15. 93 {?.~~-d;~'. ~~::. 1~: ~ : : : : : : : : : : : : 300 pounds potatoes ...... __ .. ______.. _...... do ...... 5.47 } 169 Henry Littlecoyote .... _....•.. ___ . . {486 pounds oats. - ...... ---. . -...... May 1, 1911 J0.93 155 pounds potatoes .. _... _.. _.... _..... __... Jane 15, 1911 3.06 19.46 {~~~::2~~~~~~: lg:~ :::::::::::: 170 b les L •ttleeacrlc {356 pounds oats. - -...... ___ ...... _... _...... May 1, 1911 8.01 } C ar 1 "' ···-·········-·- - · 300poundspotatoes ...... June 5,11111 5.01 13. 02 e~~ -do~'. ~~: ~. ~: g~ :: : : : : : : : : : : 171 Charles Littlemouth . .... : ... __ ..... 155 pounds potatoes ...... _...... May 3, 1911 2.84 2.84 Nov. 25, 1911 2.84 ...... Arth Brady {315 pounds oats .... _... _...... _...... May- 1, 1911 5.89 } 172 ur · · · · -· · · -·: · · · · -- · -- · · 450 pounds potatoes ...... •. _..... _...... May 10, 1911 8.17 14.06 e~~do2_1'.~~~~- ~:~ :::::::::::: 173 David Littlewhiteman _.•••. _.. _. . . 370 pounds oats. - ...... _...... _...... May I , 1911 6.92 6.92 Nov. 25, 1911 6.92 ...... 174 Frank Littlewolf ...... •.•...... 450poundspotatoes ...... May 9,1911 8.19 8.19 .... . do...... 8.19 ...... 175 Littleyellowman . {100 pounds oats .. -...... _. __...... Apr. 22; 1911 2. 18 } · --- · -· · · · · · · • · - -· · 310 pounds potatoes ...... ___ ._ ...... _... .. June 15, Hill 6.13 8. 31 e~·do~: ~~~~. ~: ~g :: : : : : : : : : : : 176 William Loncwolf ...... 150poundspotatoes ...... May 11 , 1911 2. 73 2.73 ... . . do...... 2.73 ...... I 35 fruit trees .. ___ .. _. ... _...... _.... __ ...... Apr. 15, 1912 3. 75 } -177 L{)netravelingwolf .... _...... 1,400 pounds oats .. _... __ .. ______...... _... May 1., 1911 21.00 32.92 s~~a:~~ ~~~:. 2t~ ::::::: : :::: l' 450 pounds potatoes ...... _. __ ...... May 10, 1911 8.17 .. do...... 8.17 ·······---- - 178 Fred Longroach 125 pounds oats - ...... _...... _. _...... A pr. 9, 1911 3.25 } 10.74 . . do...... 3.25 ...... · · · · -· -· · -·· ·-- · · -· · 450 pounds potatoes ..... _. __ ...... ___ ...... June 10, 1911 7.49 } . . do_ , _____ 7.49 ...... 179 George Lostleg 325 pounds oats ...... _._._ ...... _.... May. 19, 1911 7. 61 6 5 5.01 12.62 e~~do. ~:~~~- ~:8i :: ::::: ::::: 180 Louis Magpie __ ·_~~:::: ·:::::::::::::: l~~ ~~!:~ E~i:~::::: :: :: : : : ::::: :: :: : : : : .~~~o. :~~~~. 12.56 12. 56 Oct. 25, 1911 12. 56 ...... 181 Robert Manbear 1420 pounds oats._ ... __ .. _... __ .. __ ... _...... May 1, 1911 13.30 ( .... do...... 7. 85 ······ · ·· ··- · · · · · · · · · · • • • • •· -· · · 300 pounds potatoes ...... _...... _. May 10, 1911 }} ~ .... do ... __ . . 5. 45 ...... QnmpsonMedicine ... . do ...... May 9,1911 5.47~ : ~ 182 "°"' · · -· • · --· -· · · · · · · 150 pounds potatoes ... ___ . _.. _... _. __ ...... June I, 1911 2.52 7.!J9 t:::t:::: ::: ~:g~ :::::::::::: 183 Harold Medlcineelk .•.. __ . __ . _.. __ . 300 pounds pot a toes .. . __ ... __ . . . . • • • • • • • • . . . May 9, l!lll 5. 47 5. 47 .. _.. do ...... 5. 47 _... _...... 1913 . . ~ CONGRESSIONAL- RECORD-HOUSE. 1017 Report of" Purchase of imp.lements, etc.:_,fo~ Indian-~_ of Tongue Riier Re~ervation, .:..1JM!t. (reimbursable)," as of daU Nov. SO, 1912-Continued. Payments. Balance due by Ac Date of Beneficiary. Articles. Item cost. Total cost. beneficiary count purchase. on or be· No. Date. Amount. fore June 30, 1916. ' 130 pounds oats ...... " ...... ·' .. May l,·1911 $1. 95 ) $1. 95 ...... • J hn M d" · efl · 440 pounds oats ...... May 9, 1911 11.15 $29. 27 1~~~·d1~: ~~~~. 11.15 ...... • 184 o e icm ymg .. ···· · · ··· ·· · ·· 300 pounds potatoes ...... ·... June 5, 1911 5.01 .... do ...... 5.01 ...... do ...... 11.16 ...... - 1{i&~~cJ~a'Is:::·.::::::::::::::::::::::::: tr. g:~m 1~: i~ } .... do ...... 2.18 ...... 5.00 185 Jame3 Medicinetop ...... 300 pounds potatoes ...... June · 5, 1911 16.37 { .... do ...... 5.00 ·········· ·• W5 pounds potatoes...... Apr. 16, i911 9.19 .... do...... 9.19 ···········• 186 Marion Mexicanche:renne...... 300 pounds potatoe3...... May 9, 1911 5.47 5.47 ..... do ...... 5.47 ··-···· .... 2. 73 2. 73 ···········• 2.61 l 5. 34 €~~do~~~~~~. 2.61 ····· · ······ 0.98 14. 97 ct. 25, 1911 9.98 ···········• 4.99 . . do ...... 4.99 ········ ...• 2. 75 : :;:;~:>.-::: .. :···i~e~~-~i;H..:++++ t* ;mu 2. 75 ov. 2.5, 1911 2. 75 ···········• 190 Charles Pawnee ...... ··· 12~ pounds oats.···························· ~F. 1~,1911 3. 51 ·····•·· ...• lo:> pounds potatoes...... ay 5, 1911 3.512.61 l 6. 12 e~~-do~~ ~~~~ . 2.61 ··•••···· ..• 3.83 3.83 •••••••. ...• ·191 Frank l'ine...... _... ~E~':~-~~~~·.::::::::::. :::::::::::::::::: ~~ um 27.00 30. 83 {~~~dol.3: ~~~~. 27.00 1 10. 91 } 360. 91 {Nov. 29, 1911 n~~ }----~~~-- ~~ 192 Albert Porcupine ...... -i~~e~~~-~~~~~~~::::: :: : : : : : : : : : : : : : :.: : : : : ~~~- Um 350.00 Oct. 31, 1912 193 Frank Whitewolf 332 pounds oats ...... : ...... May 1, 1911 7.4.7 12. 46 7.47 ·•···· ...... · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 300 pounds potatoes ...... June 10, 1911 4.99 e~~·d;~: ~~~~. 4.99 ···········. 194 John Red beads 478 pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 10. 75 10. 75 ...... 13. 82 · · ·· · · ···· ···· ······ · 155 pounds potatoes ...... June 15,1911 3.07 e~~·d:.4: ~~~~. 3.Cfl •••········• 195 Charles Red breath ...... •...... {356 pounds cats.······················.··· .. May 1, 1911 8.01 8.01 ...... 3.18 11.19 e~~d;;~: ~~~~. 3.18 · ··········· ~ ~~~~ :;:~~::::::::::::::: :~~::: =~:: 13.10 do ...... 13.10 ...... 196 William Redcllerries ...... 310 pounds potatoes ...... •.:·::: :·::·::: :::.:.. do ...... 5.21 26.81 .... do ...... 5.21 ...... 1 harrow ...... do ... •... 8.56 .... do ...... 8.56 ...... 197 James Redfox ...... -.... 430 pounds oats ...... • do ...... 11. 27 16.28 .... do .. ····· 11.27 ...... • - 300 pounds potatoes ...... __ ...... · .... June 5, 1911 5.01 l ... . do ...... 5.01 ...... 19 "William Redfox - · · {l2 geldings.················ ...... Apr. 28,1911 325.00 334. 51 l{June :n, 1911 325.00 ...... ' .. ··· ·······_- ···· ··· ., g~ ~~~~ ~:~:: :::::::::::::: ::::::::::::: - ~~:do~'.~~~~. 9.51 Mar. 15, 1912 9.51 ...... 300 pounds potatoes...... May 3, 1911 5.475.24 5.24 199 Z:ic Ridgebear ...... · .. · ...... 150 pounds potatoes ...... June l,IIHl 2.52 . - 5.47 l l 220. 2.52 200. 00 1 harrow...... May 3, 1911 7.20 431~~~-~?~: ~~~~: · · 12 mares ...... _...... Aug. 8, 1911 200.00 .... do ...... 7.20 200 William Wolfname {525 pounds oats .. ·················· · ········ Ma.y 1,IIHI 9.82 20. 731· ··.do ...... · 9.82 ...... · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · 600 pounds potatoes...... May 3, HHl 10. 91 .... do ...... 10. 91 ...... Louis Roman.nose ... ." ...... {150 pounds potatoes ...... · ...... May 10, HHl 2. 73 } 5.33 .... do ...... 2. 73 ...... 201 155 pounds potatoes ...... · .. _.. -June 5, 1911 2.60 2.CO ...... •.• 202 John Rondeau ...... 450 pounds potatoes ...... May 11, l!Hl 8. 19 8.·19 .::J~::::::: 8.19 ' ············ JohnSaridcrane ...... {350poundsoats ...... Apr. 22,1911 8.69 } .G9 ...... •....• 203 620 pounds potatoes ...... · .·..... June ID, 1!111 12. 27 20. 96 e~~ao2:5: ~~~~. 12.27 ...... 204 George Sh~vedhead ...... 450 pounds potatoes ...... - ...... }fay 3, llHl 8.19 8.19 Oct. 25, 1911 8.19 · ··········· 205 Bob Standingelk...... 100 pounds oats ...... _.. · ...... Apr. 18, l!lll 2.18 2.18 . .... do ...... 2.18 .... ······ .. Jame.> stun"ingbear .....•...... {300 pounds potatoes ...... ;.... May 11, 11111 5.47 } 7.99 { .... do ...... - 5.47 ...... 206 150 pounds potatoes ...... · ...... June 1, Hnl 2.52 2.52 ...... , .. . · · {776 pounds oats...... May 1, 1!111 11. 64 } ::::~~::::::: 11. 64 ...... 207 John Strangeowl ...... 7 apple trees...... Apr. 15, 1911 . 70 21. 41 .... do ...... 70 ... ········· 600 pounds potatoes...... June 10, Hill 9.07 .... do ...... 9. 07 ...... 208 Harshey W ollchief ...... {1 harrow· · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · . ·...... May 1 1911 8.56 } 11. 08 ···.do ...... 56 ...... •. . 150 pounds potatoes ...... June 1, 1911 2.52 ! ::::a~::::::: 2.52 ...... • 13.10 } 13.10 5.00 318.10 .... do ...... 5 00 l · 210. 00 209 Tom Seminoie ...... •...... u~~l~~-~~~;~~;::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~ um 300.00 Sept. 18, 1912 20.00 Oct. 31, 1912 70.00 l Dec. 26, 1911 00. 68 ...... ······ · {1 stallion...... Aug. 24., 1911 100.00 } 210 John Squintcye...... 450 pounds potatoes...... May 3, 1911 8.18 127. 60 Mar. 6, 1912 39.32 ········ ·· · · 1,295 pounds oat.s .. _...... do ...... 19.42 j 8.18 ...... • ~~~03~: ~~~~. 19.42 ·········· .. f! share in plow...... May 5, 1911 16. 75 } 16. 75 ············ 32. 94 211 Spottcdblackbird ...... 1255 pounds oats...... Apr. 16, 1912 6.20 {~~~·d~~'- ~~~~. 6.20 ···········• . t600 pounds potatoes ...... June 5, 1911 9.99 .... do ...... 9.99 ·········· .. 0 10.32 ········· · ·· 459 pounds oats...... May 1, 1911 10.32 } jfili~ 24~ i9ii · 1. 63 ...... 4.99 212 Hugh Spottedhawk ••••...•••...... 300 pounds potatoes ...... June 10,.1911 23. GB Oct. Zi>, 1911 3.36 ············ {t share in plow...... May 5, 1911 8.37 l June 24, 1911 8.37 ············ 213 Anna Spottedwolf...... •.•.•...... ~share in plow...... : -: ...... do ...... 8.37 8. 37 May 5, 1911 8.37 ············ 214 Mary Stronglefthand...... 300 pounds potatoas ...... ,...... Apt. 9, 1911 5.47 5. 47 Oct. 25, 1911 5.47 ············ John Sunbear · {152 pounds potatoes...... June 10, 1911 2.54 } 8 68 {···.do.······ 2.54 ••••...... • 215 · · · · · · · · · •• ••• • • · · · · · · 310 pounds potatoes...... June 15, 1911 6.14 · · .... do ...... 6.14 ············ Frank Stumphorn ....••••••••..••.. {150 pounds potatoes .... : ...... _May 11, 1911 2. 75 } 2. 75 ...... • 216 . .. . do ...... June 1, 1911 2.52 2.52 ••...... • 217 JacobTallbull...... •..•...... 600poundspotatoes ...... May 11,1911 10. 91 1~:~~ t)t:i~ii: 10.91 ······· ·· ·· • 218 Tallwhlteman ...... •...... 155 pounds potatoes ...... June 10, 1911 2.59 ~.59 ..... do ...... 2.59 ············ 219 John Tallwhiteman ...... do ...... June 15, 1911 3.07 3.07 Mar. 6,1912 3.07 ...... 220 John Teeth...... 150 pounds potatoe3 ...... ::. : . June 1, 1911 2.52 2. 52 Dec. 13, 1911 2.52 ············ 221 Louis Twin ...... •...... 1-12 plow ...... : ...... May 5, 1911 37.85 37. 85 Dec. 22, 191 l 37.85 ···········• Peter Twobirds pounds oats ...... May 1, 1911 9.63 } 9.63 ...... • 222 }642 15. 28 · · · · · · ••• •••• · · · · · · · 600 pounds potatoes...... June 10, 1911 5.65 } e~~·d;~: ~~~~. 5.65 ···········• John Twofeathers ...•.•..•••.•..... 160 pounds potatoes.················· ...... June ~' 1911 2.68 2.68 ············ 223 ).SO pounds potatoes ...... ·: ...... June fa, 1911 1.58 4.~ }ii::~~::::::: 1. 58 ...... 30.00 ············ 1 plow ...... •...... Apr. 15, 1911 60.61 N~~- J:im 19.00 ...... 400 pounds oats ...... May 1, 1911 6.00 Oct. 25, 1911 11. 61 ...... 224 John Twomoons...... •••••...... 450 pounds potatoes ...... May 9, 1911 4;92 248. 53 Oct. 1, 1911 27.00 ············ 1 mower...... June 27, 1911 27.00 6.00 ...... 1 stallion...... June 12, 1911 150.00 ~~~do2_5: ~~~~. 4.92 ...... 1 l Dec. 20, 1911 150.00 ...... 22.1 John Turkeylegs...... •....•.•••.. 450 pounds potatoes ...... •.•••.... . June 10, 1911 4.24 4. 24 ! Oct. 25, 1911 4.24 ············ 226 Charles Wa.Hdngbear...... 900 pounds potatoes ...... do ...... 8.47 8. 47 ..... do ...... 8.47 ············ 8.38 ...... Share in plow...... May 5, 1911 8.38 } 1.62 ...... David Walkseasy ...... 300 pounds·oats ...... May 1, 1911 7.Zl 20 64 ~~ ~:do~:~~~~. .227 { · Oct. 25, 1911 5.65 · ········· ·· 300 pounds potatoes ...... June 10, 1911 4.99 4.99 ...... •... l 7. 74 . ······· .... 228 Dick Walkslast fa44 pounds.oats ...... May 1, 1911 13.87 ~--J~::::::: 7.746.13 " } ... do ...... 6.13 ···········• 4. 78 4. 78 ···•· ...... • 229 Adolph Walks~~~:::::::::::::::::: r~~EE~5~:~~::::::::::::::::::::::::: ~:~um 2.54· 7. 32 . : : ~~ : : : : : : : 2. 54 ...... F ank Wate 1512 poun_ ds oats ...... May 1, 1911 1:68 7.68 ···········• 230 r r · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · ~3oo pounds potatoes June 10, 1911 4.53 12. 21 ~~d;~: ~~~~. 4.53 ············ 231 Thomas Wrapped.hair ...... : . 150 pounds potatoes::::::::::::::::::::::::: May 9, 1911 ~.t73 2. 73 Oct. 25, 1911 2. 73 ··••··· •·· .• 1018 ' OONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· ·HOUSE .. JANUARY 4, Repqrt of" P·urehase of implements, ·etc., for Indians of Tongue Ri11er Resm:ation, .Mont. (reimbursable)," as of date .Nov. SO, 1912--Continued. Payments. Balance Ac dtteby Articles. Date of Item cost. Total cost. beneficiary count Beneficiary. purchase. on or-be No. Date. Amount. fore June 30, 1916. $8.·68 .63 ...... 350 pounds'Oats ...... ·-·-············ May 1,1911 ' 232 Frank Weaselbear .•..•••••••.•••... {300 pounds potatoes .....•••.•••...... ••••••. June 5, 19TI 5.00 $16. 75 5.00 ...... 155 pounds potatoes...... June 15, 1911 3.07 e~~t;~ ~~~~: 2i 1 160.00 1.60.00 ...... 160.00 49 ~~t~~nlii"t~e~d-. ·• ·.: :::::::::::::::: . ~-~~: :: :::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::: . -~~~do ~~ ~~~- £0.00 80.00 ...... 80.00 56 Charles Loneelk ...... •..•••.... '. 4 mares •...... •••••..•...•....•...... do ...... 95.00 95.00 ...... 95.00 61 150. ()() 150.00 ...... 150.00 76 65.00 65.00 ...... 65.00 77 !~Jl~&.~~~~:::: :: ::: ::::::;: ~ ~E:c ~: :: ::::: :: ::: : : :: :~:: :: ::: : :: : : :: . ~~\}~~~~~. 215.00 215.00 ...... -·-···-·-·· 215.00 7 William Russel. ..•..•...... 5 mares ...... •...... •...•...... do ...... 120.00 120.00 ...... 120.00 97 .Patrick Bpottedwolf ...••.•.••.•••.. 4 mares ..•..•...... •....•••....•••...... do ...•... 80.00 •80.00 ...... 80.00 147 160.00 160.00 ...... ·-·········· 160.00 li4 ~~~:~~~~ff~:::::.:::::::::::: .~-~J~: ~: :: ::::: :: :: :: ::: :: ~:::::::::: :: :: : :: : : :~~::::::: 160.00 160.00 ...... 160.00 220 John Teeth ...... •....••••.•...... do ...•••.•...•...•••••.••.•••...... •...... do .••.... 160.00 160.00 ...... -ioo.oo 250 John Soldier olf. ....•...... do_ ••••...... •...... •...... •...... do ...... 160.00 160.00 ...... 160.00 251 James.Dealy ...•...... •..... 1 mare •.•...... •...... do ...•... 40.00 40.00 ...... 40.00 1 ~~~~- 1 -~~~~1 Toto!...... ••••...... ••••.....•...... ••....•...... l,&l5.00 1, 645. 00 ...... 1,&15.00 1 These sale<> represent the ·residue of a carload. or potatoes purchased for seed. lifter supplying our Indians with the seeds they required this quantity remained unsold, and, to prevent loss through deterioration, the potatoes were. disposed of to w_hlte residents at .the agency. RECAPITULATIO~. Balance due by Total Amount of beneficiary ~~~~r ltem cost. Total cost. payments. on or before June 30, 1916. Page 1...... ··········-····· ... ······-·----~--·-··-· 12 5734,21 8734.21 $262.18 $472.03 Page 2 ..•.....•...... ----·-...... ·······--·...... ••••..•• ...... 12 725. 89 725.89 299.01 426.88 Page 3. . • . . • ...... •...... • • • • • • • • • • . • . 12 1,237. 41 1,237.41 484.69 752. 72 9'23. '42 923.42 .212. 77 ·110. 65 ~!f~ t :: :::::~::: ::: ::: ::: :: : : : : : : : : : :: :: :: :: : : : :: :::::: :: ::: :: :~:::::::: :: ::: :: :: :::: ::: ::::::::::::::::..: ·M 965.12 965.'12 606. 96 .358.16 'Page 6... ••••.•...... • ...... •. . . • •• ...... •. . . . •...... • . . . . • • ••• •••••••.•. 10 1,013.52 1,013.52 '542.00 471.52 -Page 7 •••••••••..••••...... • ..•..•...... •...... •..••.•.••.•••••••••• -·.. 12 1,052.08 1,052.08 363.80 688.28 989. 70 989. 70 259.57 730.13 J~~ g: :: :::::::: ::::: :::::: :: ::: :: : : : : : : : : : : :: :: : : ::: :: :: :: : : : ::: :: ::::::::::::: :: :::: ::::::::::::::::::::: i8 890.84 800. 84 316.90 573. 94 Page 10 ...... -···-···················-·· 12 l, 114.98 1, 114. 98 231.19 883. 79 Page 11...... _...... • ...... • . • • ...... • • . • • . • • . • . • • • . 8 6.70.30 '670.30 216.05 A.54.25 Page 12 ..•...... •...... ---·-····--···························-·u·· 16 7 9.91 7 9.91 464. 91 325.00 l'age 13...... • ...... • • • . • • • • . • ...... • • • • • • . . • . . • • • • . 24 327. 43 327. 43 327.43 ...... Pag~ 14...... •. . • • • • . . . • • • • . • . • • • • • • • • • • . . • • . . 21 249. 77 249.77 249. 77 ...... Page 15 ..•...... •••.•..••....••...••.••••.••.•••• 0 rJ.6 .1,091. 45 1,091.45 556.31 535.14 Page 16 ...... ·- . . . . . • . . . . . • • • • • . • • • . • • • . . . . • • . . • . . . • • . • • . . . '17 866. 20 8G0.20 656. 20 210. ()() Page 17 ....•...... •...... •.•.... -·...... •• • • • • . . . • ...... •• . . . • • • 18 4 !l. ·l 48!!. 82 489.82 ...... Page 18...... • • . • . . • ...... 10 2,617. 69 2,617. 6!) 344.59 .2,273.10 Page 19...... •.... .•...... •...... •....•. .•...... •. . .•••••. ....••••••••...... 13 1,645. ()() 1, 645. 00 ...... 1, 645. 00 l ~~~~--l -~~~~·~~~~- :-~~~~ Total...... •.... -...... • · -· · -· • • · · -· ··· -- · ·- · • · · • • -· • • • • • • • • • · · · · · · • • • • • • • • · -· · · · · · · · · · · · · · • · · · 18,394. 74 1 , 394. i4 I 6,884.151 11, 510. 59 SUMMARY. g~~e~%~g.~!t~~:fiJi~~~~:::::::::::~:::::::::::~:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::··::::::::::::::::::::::: cJ;~:rl Total sales· t-0 beneficiaries ...... •...... •••.•.•..•...... : ...... -. ··- . - ... - ...... - -. -. - -. -- 18, 394. 74 5 '~~~~~J~S~c~~~: ~::::::::::::::: : ~ :::: ~::::::::: :~:::::::: :: :: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :: :: ::: :: : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : ~ :: ::: ~::::: kt~: 3 Total available to date...... ·- ••.. __ ...... •...... •••. -· ...... •••••...... 21, 4. 15 ·-:..•otal sales...... · .•...... 18,394. 74 Cash-payments...... ····-· ...... •••.... ·····-··--·'"· ...... '" -- ...... -. -.. -- . - -.. -· ..... - 6, · -1.1.:i :Balance ·due by beneficiaries...... -· .•. ·-••• ·--•• --·-•• - - -~~~-~~~ •••••••••••••.•.... -••••••••••••••• 11, 510. 59 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 1019 ~fr. )10?11'DELL. The gentleman from Oklahoma [~r. FER day?" Ile looked up at me and said, " I think I could, but uot RIS] propo es going on fore\er appropriating for tllese people with the same ardor." (Laughter.] out of the fund" of the IJeople of the country generally without The CILUill\fAN. The Clerk will read. any hope of any return or without regard to its necessarily dis The Clerk read as follows : astrous effect upon the character and dignity of the Indian To rci!'.llburs~ Clara D. True for tra>eling expeu. es incurred b:r her rather than to appropriate for a lo:m which the Inilian has under instrnct10ns from an official of the Indian ervicc in the clo iua of ber accounts as a former superintendent in the Indian ser vice"' hown he desire to make aud is anxious to return. 30.15. ' tlie Mr. FERRIS. Will gentleman yield? Will the gentle Mr. ~"N. Mr. Chairman, I resene a point of order on man obserYe that the paragraph oYer which he is exllorting the paragraph uoes not carry a penny of appropriation? It merely authorizes The CIIAIK\IAN The gentleman from Illinois [~Ir. ~Ax~] the head of an irrigation project to aclminister oaths to em re erves a point of order on the paragraph. ployees in order to save notary fees. 1\lr. 1\lANN. I see from the statement an explanation of the ~Ir. 1\lO~"'DELL. I thought the gentleman had been here reasons given for this claim, and I shall withdraw the poiut of long enough to know that sometimes we debate all sorts of mat order in the end. But why is it necessary, when they propose ter on a pro forma amendment. to adjust the accounts of a superintendent of a reservation, :\lr. FERRIS. I hope the gentleman will debate the para that they send a general superintendent and a financial officer graph under consideration. to the agency, or require the superintendent to come to the Mr. MONDELL. But I am debating an important matter. office of the general superintendent, any more than it is neces At least, it ought to be an important matter, with a Demo sary, when they adjust the accounts of a postmaster, to senu cratic majority with its claim of proposed economy. I want you the Postmaster General or one of his agents to the post office gentlemen to economize and sa. \e the money of the people. At or require the postmaster to come to Wa hington? Why does the ame time I desire to assist in retaining self-re pect among it require the personal attention of any person to adjust ac the Indians. 'l'he way to do it is not to appropriate for them counts which are suppo cd to be made out subject to be trans without stint or limit, to throw the people's money among them mitted by the mail? as a drunken sailor scatters his dollars, but to do a banking i\Ir. FERRIS. If the gentleman will yield, we ha\e the state business with the wards of the Government and thereby teach ment of the Indian Commissioner. I know the gentleman is them habits of business, teach them the importance of their well informed on this bill, and I think he will admit that this obligations to the Goyernment and their obligations to their is one of only two or three items that may at all be considereu fellow men, and giYe them a chance in life without making a claim. This bill is free from claims, aside from one or two paupers of them. little items that are simply self-evident. The CHAJRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Wyoming l\Ir. MANN. I am not complaining about the matter of a [hlr. 1\foNDELL] has expired. claim. l\ir. 1\IA~~- l\lr. Chairman, the gentleman from Wyoming :Mr. FERRIS. The Indian Commi sioner says the Comp [l\Ir. l\IoNDELL] says I did not refer to the appropriation for troller of the Treasury refuses to allow the item. The uper encouraging industry among the Indians of the Tongue River \isor had the superintendent brought to him rather than to go Reserrntion, .Mont. It is true that when the ga\el of the Chair to her, as a matter of economy, and he thought he was justified man fell I had not yet reached that report. I think I can add in doing it. even a little to the information furnished by the gentleman from :Mr. MANN. Why was it necessary to haye this done at all? Wyoming on that subject. There nn appropriation was made Here was a case where the chief supervisor was ordered to go for a specific reservation, and during the la t fiscal year the from Denier, Colo., to Santa Fe for the purpose of having the total amount loaned to the Indians was $4,292.02, and the superintendent of the agency adjust her accounts. Why was rrmount that was repaid by the Indians was $4,174.<>5. Nearly that done? Why could not she adjust her accounts by making the entire amount was reimbursed. The appropriation was made out her statement and having it transmitted by mail? Why ~pecifically. But I did call attention to the general item, to the should 8omebody have to go from DenYer to Santa Fe, or nppropriation encouraging industry among the Indians, reim wherever it was, to adjust the account? What sort of adminis bursable, where, out of an expenditure of $4,500, the large sum tration is that? of mo had been reimbursed during the same fiscal year, and l\lr. FERRIS. The Commissioner of Indian Affairs explaine thn,t mu t be I.milt before the e:\.--penditure of $500,000 can: be the water to be turned onto the land at all from the -wen s'°stem0 utilized ancl to maintain the system. We have on this Indian they will abandon their rights-_to the wat~rs of the Gila IliYer re erYation Pima In on the one hand and th·e Indians on the other, using the ~roo.~s main, or at least to a large extent, the bridges proposed are tmd bridges jointly on each other's property, should m~mtarn for the benefit of the white man and not merely for the Indian. these roads ancl bridges, ea.ch in his own country, in fair a~d Now, the gentleman says that we ought to haye this repo1·t as passable condition. The Indians should not expect the white to the need of the. bridge. The report is already written as to people to build their roads and bridges, and should not expect the need of the bridge by the officer who would have to write the Government to do it. So far as they are necessary for it; he has already declared himself that they need the bridge. the joint use of the Indians an.d the white men, they should Last year we appropriated for an investigation as to the need be paid for by the owners of the property, whether white or of a bridge on the Navajo Indian Reservation, Ship Rock, San Indian. . Juan RiY-er. The officer in charge at Denver, Colo., having been Mr. UcKENZIE. If the gentleman will yield for a question, directed to investigate as to the need of the bridge, wired this I want to ask for information if the Indians on these resen-a statement to the officer in charge at the place: tions have the right to construct bridges or build roads! Mail here at once number Indians living south o! river, danger of fording, peril when ford is impossible, and any data for use in report Mr. MONDELL. Oh, yes; they own the land. . . justify,ing need of bridge. l\Ir. FERRIS. But they have no money with which to do it. All they asked for wt1.s information for a report justifying l\Ir. 1\IO~"'DELL . They own the land, and they can do as they see fit. the need of a bridge. Having been directed to inyestigate the i\Jr. FERRIS. I think the question asked by the gentleman necessity of a bridge, they directe.d the officer to send them in ouaht to be more fully answered than it has been by the gentle formation which they proposed t() incorporate in a report justi ma0n from Wyoming. They have the right to build the~e roads fying the need of the bridge. That was all they wanted, and and bridges, but every cent of their money is tied up m trnst that is all they want in this case, if it goes through, for they flmds so that they can not use it. have concluded that they need the bridge and do not need any Mr.' .MONDELL. A great deal of road building can be accom investigation to ascertain it; nor do they need any special plishel1 without the expenditure of a considerable amount of investigation as to the cost. You can send the length of the It bridge, which is easily ascertained, to . any of the bridge com cash. is largely labor. panies of this country and obtain offhand the probable cost of l\!r. ~fcKE~?.JE. These Indians have no trust fund. . a steel bridge, which in the end will be recommended. It will Mr. FERRIS. This is the situation as it was presented m cost between $20,000 and $30,000, and tlle estimate of the engi the hearings· The commissioner says these Indians are located neer will not add anything to it. Why should not the State of about 90 mil~s from Flagstaff; that this road goes to an Indian Arizona do something for these people? They live in Arizona, school and agency; that a bridge with an 85-foot s~an has al they trade in Arizona, they are the life of Arizona, and yet ready been coostructed, which could be used if the bridge acr?ss whenever anything is to be done tbey want the Fede.Yul Treas this wash was built, which it '\\ill cost about $10,000 to build. ury to pay the money. We did not want to take the responsibility of providing for Mr. HAYDEN. l\Ir. Chairman, in reply to the gentleman its construction, er-en although by the expenditure of $10,000 from Illinois [Mr. MANN] as to why the State of Arizona the Indian reservation would have the advantage of the 85-foot should not be compelled to build bridges and roads on the bridge without senclin()' some one ont there to make an investi Indian reservations, permit me to suggest to the committee aation~ We haYe appr~priated $1,000 for the pm"pose of making that over one-quarter of the entire area of my State has been ~n investigation to ascertain whether any bridge should be con set aside for Indian reservations. There a,1·e 28,6.85 square structed, although the commissioner urged in the sti·ongest miles of territory in A1·izona resened for the use of the In terms that it should be constructed. dians. That is an area larger than the whole .State of West I find on looking at the property qualifications of these Virginia, and almo t as large as the State of Maine or the State Indians that while they ha.ye no trust fund they have property of South Carolina. The Indian country in Arizona is equiva estimated and valued at 2,100,000. If anyone c.ares to offer an lent in size to any one of these three States. A region rich in amendment providing that this $1,000 shall be reimbn;sable, minerals, particularly copper and coal, containing vast forests certainly I have no objection to it, although the amount is only of virgin timber, large areas of irrigable lands, and other larger $1 000 and it doe not construct anything for the Indians. I do areas suitable for dry farming and for gmzing purposes. All not think we ought to construct anything tmtil we see whether of this domain is not subject to taxation and does not con it ought to be done or not. tibute one cent to the upbuilding of my State. Mr. MONDELL. I think the committee ought to offer such The white p.eople of Arizona on their own land, in that part an amendment. The item is so small that probably no other of Arizona. that is not resel"Ved for the Indians, are d-0ing their Member of the House will care to offer it. Yet the principle is full share of building roads and bddges. Last year there was involved. We ought to establish the principle, and adhere to it, raised in my State over $500,000 by di:i.·ect taxation for the pur that wher~ the property of the Indians is going to be improved pose of· constructing roads and bridges. The Indians in Arizona and the Indians are going to be benefited they ought to pay for contribute nothing to that end. It seems to me that when we the improvement. At least we should contemplate the repay consider the vast area of land that has been given to the In ment of it by the Indians. dians and the great value of their property> that they ought to l\Ir. FERRIS. I think unless some one has an amendment contribute in part to the construction of the State highways. prepared it would hardly be worth while to apply it to this I thoroughly agree with the gentleman from Wyoming [Mr. $1,000, but I will s.ay to the gentleman that in dealing with the l\IoNDELL] that any expenditure of this kind should be made bridge proper, which may be constructed in the future, that reimbursable out of the Indian funds. It is true they have no principle ought to be applied. trust funds now> but ultimately they will have money to tbeir Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Mr. Chairman, if the gentle credit, and when they do have it they should pay for any work man from Oklahoma will permit me to add to his statement tha.t is done for their benefit. another reason for not making an appropriation for a bridge. Ml·. MANN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? than the one that the gentleman has given and why this item Mr. HAYDEN. Certainly. was inserted instead of an appropriation, I will say that it was Mr. l\.fANN. The gentleman is familiar with the two reports to ascertain from an engineering standpoint the estimated cost made in conformity with the appropriations last year, for two of such b1ridge. An appropriation might be made for $10,000 different bridges in Arizona? and the bridge might not cost more thnn $100, and therefore, in Mr. HAYDEN. Yes, sir. stead of undertaking to appropriate for it, we have asked by Mr. MANN. In one of them this statement is made: this provision that there be submitted an estimated cost. Bridges would prove a great convenienc to the general public in I Mr. FERRIS. The gentleman states it correctly. addition to actual necessity for the use of tbe Indians. 1\fr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, I doubt the advisability of thP. In the other the statement is made: ~ Go-vernment paying for these bridges. Since my distinguished I Also a convenience to the white people of the valley, who make fre and lovable friend from Arizona ca.me on the floor of tbe Ho-use, quent trips aeross the reservation to sell their products in towns along representing the State of Arizona, we have had a number of the Santa Fe Railroad. these bridge projects which his predecessor, the distinguished How will the gentleman determine how much of this m-0ney, Senator from Arizona, with all his keenness, neyer was able to if it is to be reimbursed, shall be reimbursed out of the Inuian unearth in his long senice in this House. It strikes me that ftmds when it appears from the reports that the bridges are when the Territory of Arizona. was created into a State it as largely to be utilize.d by and for the. benefit of the white citizens sumed some responsibilitie . Now, the pretense is that tbese of Arizona who do not own the Indian lands? bridges are for the benefit of the Indian. From the two reports Mr. HAYDEN. Mr. Chairman, the policy of the committee made last year, which han~· come in, it appears that in the in referring these matters to the engineers of the department il024 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. J ANUARY 4, and having estimates made and plans and spocifica tions pre him to do it, and I presume that it is true of the Navajos, and p a red has !Jeen justified by every report made in accordance there should not be any question of doubt in the mind of any with the act last year. In the case of one of the bridges to gentleman on this proposition that on an Indian reservation which the gentlemen refers there was a bi.U before the com wholly owned or generally owned by the Indian , nontaxable, mittee to appropriate $100,000. that the Indians should be expected to build the roads and This appropriation was fayorably recommended by the de bridges and maintain them in fair condition. As a matter of partment. It turns out that the actual cost in that particular fact they should be maintained in as good condition as the roads case was $63,500, making a saving of over $35,000. Another bill that join on either side of the reservation. for a bridge at Yuma had the fayorable recommendation of the The Clerk read as follows : department and an appropriation of $100,000 was asked for, . For completion- of the construction of necessary channel and laterals but when the report of the engineers is made we find that the for the utilization of water in connection with the pumpincr plant for brid('r'e will cost but $75,000, and the recommendation of the de irrigation purposes on the Colorado River Indian Re erva ion, Ariz., as provided in the act of April 4, 1910 (3G Stut. L., p. 273), for the part~ent is that the United States should not bear the entire purpos~ of securing an appropriation of water for the irrigation of expense, that only $25,000 could properly be spent on behalf of appro::nmately 150,000 ac1·es of land and for maintaining and operating the Indians. . I am not familiar with the conditions at Shiprock, the pumping plant, $25,000, reimbur able as provided in said act, and N. Mex., but as far as the Arizona reports are concerned, I to remaiu available until expended. · belie\e they amply justify the policy of the committee in order l\fr. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I ha\e a commit- in.,. these investigations, and that the reports show the extent of tee amendment which I desire to have read. th~ interest of the Indians in the building of these bridges. The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendment. l\Ir. UANN. One of the reports to which I referred was for The Clerk read as follows: a brid(Y'e at the San Carlos Reservation, Ariz., where the Afte1· line 17, page 10, in ert as a new paragraph the following: proposition has been to haYe the Government pay the entire " For the construction of a bridge aero the Gila River on the San Carlos Apache Indian Reservation, Ariz., $43,500 ; and for the construc expense, and where it appears it is largely for the benefit of the tion of a bridge across the San Carlos River on said reservation, in genera.I· public. said State, $19,800, both appropriations to be Immediately available; l\Ir. HAYDEN. Not from the reports. said bridges to be constructed across said streams in the places and manner recommended by the Secretary of the Interior in House Docu Mr. l\fAl~. I just read it to the gentleman. That is what ment No. 1013, Sixty-second Congi·ess, third session ; in all, 65,300, to the report says : • be reimbursable out of any money that may hereafter be deposited in the Treasury of the United States to the credit of the Indians having Bridges would prove a great conyenience to the general pul.Jlic. tribal rights on the Fort Apache and San Carlos Indian Reservations." l\fr. HAYDEN. That does not mean entirely in the interest Mr. l\IA1'"'N. Mr. Chairman, I re ene a point of order on the Of the general public. amendment. l\fr. MAl'l"'N. I will not quibble with the gentleman about the meaning of w-ords. That is what I think it means. Perhaps I l\Ir. l\IONDELL. l\lr. Chairman, a parliamentary inquiry. The CHAIR~IAN. The gentleman will state it. am mistaken. Perhaps it would not be to the interest of the l\Ir. l\IONDELL. Will the dispo ition of this item preclude general public to ha·re their conyenience served. I supposed the possibility of offering an amendment to the paragraph which that it would be. has been just read, to w-hich this i an amendment? l\lr. HAYDEN. Of course I am quite willing to admit that l\fr. STEPHE...~S of Texas. This is an an:iendment to the you can not improve a road or a bridge in the State of Arizona entire section. that will not be for the benefit of all the people in Arizona, l\Ir. l\fANN. The gentleman stated that he offered an amend· Indian and white, but as to the measure of benefit, apd who ment to the paragraph. should pay the cost, I think it is proper to have these investiga l\fr. STEPHE.:.JS of Texas. To what is the point of order tions made, and then act according to the reports given to us, reserved-to the language of the original bill? unless we have other detailed information to the contrary. Mr. MONDELL. I desire to offer an amendment to the para The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman insist upon the point graph ; this is new matter. I simply desire to be informed of order? whether I could offer an amendment after this matter has been l\lr. MANN. l\lr. Chairman, I had intended to insist upon the disposed of. point of order. I do not know why it is, but as to these little The CHAIRMAN. What is the gentleman's amendment? thousand-dollar appropriations, at least, the gentleman from l\Ir. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the la Arizona [l\Ir. HAYDEN] exercises a sort of hypnotic effect upon word. me. I do not think that that will be the ca5e when the appro The CIIAIIll\LA.K Will the gentleman send up his amend· priation is OYer $1,000. Under the circumstances I shall with ment? draw the point of order. l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I submt that l\Ir. MONDELL. l\Ir. Chairman, I move to strike out the last would be an amendment to an amendment. word. I think while this matter is under discussion that we l\fr. MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, I moYe to strike out the last ought to ha-ve it a little more thoroughly understood. It is true, word of the paragraph that was read. as the gentleman from Arizona [l\fr. HAYDEN] says, that it is l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. To the bill or to the amend impossible to construct a bridge or to build a road on any Indian ment? reservation in the country and not have the bridge or the road Mr. MONDELL. I have no objection to the gentleman' of some benefit to the general public. For instance, to illustrate amendment being considered, provirung it does not preclude my the situation, in my State we have an Indi~n reservation lying offering an amendment to this paragraph later. wedgewise a yery well-settled country, with• rivers of consider l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. The gentleman's amendment i able size for that country bounding the reservation on either to strike out the last word, and on that I presume the gentle side. The county has constructed the bridges on either side man desires to speak. I desire to yield, if I can do so, to the at considerable expense, one end of the approaches of the bridges gentleman from Arizona to explain the amendment. so constructed resting on the privately-owned land of the county The CHAIRl\IAN. The gentleman from Texas is recognized. and the other end on the Indian reseryation. Under our law l\Ir. HAYDEN. Mr. Chairman, I desire to give a brief his· we could not tax the people of the State to build a road on the tory of this amendment in order to show that it is not a new reserTation or build a bridge on the resenation, and we ought proposition, but that it has been well considered. not to do it if we had authority. The people of the vicinity On April 5, 1911, House bill 1682 was introduced by the then are taxed for the purpose of building roads and bridges. The Delegate from Arizona appropriating $100,000 for the construc Indian owns his own land. There is no reason on earth why tion of these two bridges. It was referred to the Committee on he should not be called upon and expected to pay for road and Interstate and Foreign Commerce. The committee referred the bridge construction upon his own land. . bill to the War Department and to the Department of the Inte The Indians use the roads and bridges we have built in the rior for their views. The Secretary of War reported that- adjoining territory and they travel a good deal, many of them. The rivers which it is proposed to bridge have no value as highways Therefore it is no argument against our building roads and of commerce, and I know of no objection to the enactment of the meas· bridges on their resenation that the white people will likewise ore, from the standpoint of navigation. to a certain extent use those roads and bridges. It is to the ad The Secretary of the Interior at first recommended that the "\"antage of all concerned, Indians and whites, that there should construction of these bridges be held in abeyance until the con be more or less communication between them, traveling about troyersy over the San Carlos Dam site, then pending in the in the country, and the Indian in my countr.y~ is peL'fectly willing department, was settled, for the reason that if the bridges were to build the bridges and the roads on his own land if we allow built as then proposed they ~ght be flooded by tµe waters of 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. the resenoir if constructed. However , on March 25, 1912, the 1\lr. l\IOi\"'DELL'. Will the gentleman yield for a questi9n? ~ec retary wrote to the clrnirrnan of the Committee on Inter Mr. HAYDEX Certainly. :tate Hnd Poreign Commerce, in which he saiU : l\lr. MONDELL. Ar e the streams acr oss which it is proposed 'l'he department would be much pica. ed to see the proposed legisla to construct these bridges wholly on the Indian reservation? tion enacted into law and an appropriation made available for the con :Mr. HAYDEX They are entirely on the Indian re enation. Rtrnction of the bridge . which would be an important factor in the d evelopment of that section of the country. The roa l>y the Dele<>'ate0 from Arizona was referred to the Committee on them more suc~essful.ly, give them the benefit of school facµi~ies, and • •• f . h t •tt d , · _ tench tllei;n habits of mdustry, and thus make them self-sustammg. Iud1an Affans. I went be 01e t a commi ee an "~s m The bndges will place the matured timber now in said reservation formed that a rule had been adopteu that no construction of within easy reach, making it po sible for the department to market the this character would te favorably considered by the commit tee· timber now ready for use. Thi ma~ure~ timber will not increase in 'fi t • d value because of future growtb, nnd 1t will be a benefit to the remnin- unless surveys had been made and Pans,l speci ca ions, an an ing timber upon tbe reservation to remove uch timber and market it e timate of cost had first been maue by the Department of the tbns creating a large fund for the benefit of this tribe of Indians It Interior will also make tbe portion of tbe Indian r eservation containing. the · · t d d b"ll ·di O' f . . anti th mak timber tracts accessible in case of forest fires, and place the Govern.ment I th en m ro nee a ~ pron . n.o or a sun e:y . e " - the I ndians, and the community here in a position where they can prop: ing of plans and an estimated lrm1t of cost, which bill became erly protect the forest from fire. a part of the last Indian appropriat_ion act, which _is as _ fo~ows: I might say in this connection that on page il2 of the hearings To ena_b~e the Secretary. of the Int.enor to make an m>~stigation of there is reported the sale last year of 300 000 000 feet of timbpr the conditions on the White hlountam or San Carlos Indum ReserTa- th A h R . . ' . · 1.lon in Arizona, with respect to the necessity of con ·tructing, for the on e pac e eservatioi;i, and the company who desired to nse of the Indians, suitable bridges across the San Carlos Creek and make the purchase depo ited $5.000 as a bond, which w?.s the Gila River, in the vicinity of San. Ca~los, on said res.ervation. forfeited to the Government because there were no roads oYer ~1.000, and the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authonzed and h ' h th . . . directed to cause surveys, plans, and reports to be made, together with w IC. ey could get mto the reservation in order to moye an estimated limit of cost of construction of said bridges, at such sites the timber out. as he may select. and submit his report thereon to Congi·css on the The letter says f urther · first :lfonday in December, 1012· Owing to the fact that th~se river. can not be forded, the agencv at As required by the act, the Secretary of the Interior submitted San Carlos is now compelled to ship its firewood by rail for a con his report to the Speaker of the Hou e of Ilepresentatives siderable distance. If the e brhlges were constructed the Indians would f D b 2 l n12 Th 1 tt t t th cut and haul, by their own labor, all firewood used at the atrency, thus Ull(1 er d a t e o E>cem er , i.J • e e - er was sen ° e giving employment to a considerable number of Indians for several Public Printer and I coulu not obtain a copy of it in time to have months in the year. This is also true with respect to driving beef the matter con iderecl by the committee at the meeting when the <:attle to the agency and the obtaining of many of the supplies used Indian appropriaion bill was reported to the House. The Sec- at I}hfh!;eenbcr;dges arc constructed it wm place the Federal authorities retary's report includes a report of the engineer, John Charles, in a position to properly manage and control the Indian in case of supervisor of construction for the Indian _Office, which in part disturbances, and give them every opportunity to suppress the iniquitous ·s as follows.. · liquor traffic with this tribe of Indians and to fully enforce all F ederal l laws relating to Indians and the reservation. ' The Ran Carlos Agen<'y is located approximately 1! miles west from We would call your at~ention to a letter of January 10, 1011, wrHten tbe confluence of the San Carlos and Gila llivers. A ford is now found by A. L. Lawshe, supermtendent of the agency at San Carlos, to the aero s the Gila River a few hundred feet from this junction, which Commissioner of Indian Affairs, and also his tel~ram of .January 22, can n ot be used with loaded wagons for a period of approximately 120 1012, addressed to the Indian Commi sioner, fully indor ing the con days in each year on account of high water. The Indians usually ride struction of the two bridges for the reasons we have recited. to the river, leave their teams there, and walk ac1·oss the railroad. The construction of these bridges will be of great benefit to the bridge to reach the agency during these periods. United. States Government in the transportation of United States troops In considering the best location for 1'ridges above flow line of the to and from the various forts in Arizona, and particularly in ca e of proposed San Carlos Reservoir, it was found nrcessary to go approxi- serious cutbreaks on the Indian reservation; of great benefit to the mately 6 miles northeast from the San Carlos Railroad tation on the State of Arizona and the counties or Gila and Graham in connecting Gila and 4 miles northwest on the San Carlos River . These rivers run the large mining districts of Globe and :Miami. containing a population through adobe and snnd formation, and quicksand is found in large of 15,000 to 18,000 people, with the large farming community along the quantities in hoth rivern. Gila Rl.ver in Graham County, thu. giving the farmers in Graham There are approximately uOO Indians living east of San Carlos, who County an opp'Ortunity to market their produce in the mining- camps at must cross both river to reach the agency. The Bylas farming district Globe and vicinity, and will give the Indians an additional market for is located on the south side of the Gila River and east of the pr_oposed their· crops. bridge site. It is estimated that 4,000 acres of land is available for the Said bridges. if con tructed, will be on the State and county road u e of the Indians in this district. Ditches are now in to cover about passing through said reservation, and of such benefit to the counties of 1.400 acres, and 750 acres are platted and will be under cultivation this Graham and Gila that said connties have agreed to and will build, J year. This land is divided up into 118 small farms. ranging from 5 to maintain, and keep up the 56 miles of road cros ing the reservation in Jo a<'res each. This is the largest farming distt·ict located on the order to receive the benefits thereof. 011posite side of the rh·er from the agency. If there is any additional information or data desired by your com- mittee, we will be glad to furnish same. He f ur t her t a t es : We urgently request that your committee take immediate action in There is a great deal of travel over this re ervation, and, while the the matter of the report on the above bill. I rivers can be forded when tile stage of watei· is low, there is always Yours, respectfully, some danger of getting into quick and. especially in the Gila. When GEO. W . P. Ilr '°'T, • the water rai e only a little, it is considered very dangerous to attempt Goi·ernor of A ri.;ona. to ford this river without a guide. The amount of travel over this DAVID DEVORE, part of the reservation is steadily increasing, and the nece sity for Chainnan Boat·d of Supervisors, G-ila County. bridges becomes . more apparent each year. Indians ford these rivers PHIL c. IEnnu,L, when they are extt·emely dangerous, and it is not uncommon to find Ohainna1i Board of Supcr r ·i.~on:i, (h-aham Oounty. teams stick in the quicksands. Some are helped out by others and some ,v_ w. IlnOOK::S-Eil. are lost. A.cti11g Mayor, City of Globe. X I .. I X- - 65 1026 CONGRESSIOi AL RECO:RD-HOUSE. ;fANUARY 4, Now, in. eonfo:t.·mity with the ideas of the· gentleman from these agencteS· nncl the Rice and Cibicu schools nre mainly W;rorning [l\lr. l\Io"NDELL 1. you will note that I llave made tfiis '. gntb i·e:d the 4,t>45 Apache I'ndians:_men, women, and children ap11ropriation- i•eimbors bl . : comprising the remnant of many branches of n once fumed The- CHAIR~L _ . The tjme of the~ 1 m n has expired. and bloodthirsty nomadic tribe. At Fort Apache, 3 miles from Mr. FERRI . :Ml'. airman,. l a. k unanim as consent tlu1t White River Agency, are stationed two troops of United States the O'entlem::m llave firn minutes mor . Cavalry. The H ..URMAN. Is there objection to the gentlem::m,.s "The potentialities- of the empir embraced witllin the bound request? aries of these re er-ration can not be e timat d. So great ~'llere was no obj ction. are they that they may hardly be gnes ed at. Bles eu by nature _fr. HAYDE.J. •. I belie,·e that this appro1wiation should be with scenic beauties of the most fascinating type, n.nd clothed 1· imlrnr able out of any moneys that may heTeafter be placed to with billions of feet of \aluable timber, th mountain Yallev · the credit of the Apache Indians in tlie Trea ury of the United' aud sky-kissed me as of the highland portion po s agrict1l States. I mn frank to :idrnit that they hax no tI·nst fund to tnral and horticultural possibilities realized by few and by th ir credit at pre nt, but I want to make the prediction here fewer ~eriously considered. Cut by tll.e White and Black and now tliat this p:xrticular tribe of Indians will in time to RiYer ·, which form the Salt seametl by their numerous fork come be one of the richest in tlle United· States. and ti·ibntaries, these mountain form what is perha.r s the best Th Fort .Xpnche and San Carlos Indian Re~er-ration contain. watered portion of Arizona.-: High up as they are, and ubject an area of 5,494 squ:u mife , so that the tribal lands of the to the rigors in winter of a northern climate, there. are numer Apache i a· littl larger in extent thrui the entire State. of ous protected areas, aggregating runny thousands of acres of Connecticut and! more th::m twice the· lze of Delaware and fond, where farming and fruit growing. could unque tionabfy be Rhode I fund combined. The r-esenation. lies· sq_uarely across prosecuted with complete succ s . Apples, peaches, cherries. the gr·eat ruine:cal belt that cro e the State of Arizona :from aud similar fruits would find an rumost perfect home, while th northwest to th s utheast. On the ea tern edge of tile many "tari ties of grains and \egeta!Jleg which thri're best under Indi:u1 lauds- lie th° Clifton and lUorenci mining di tricts that temperate summer conditions, and are now grown to a certain produced in 1910 metal · principally copper, valued. at $9,410,- extent by the desultory Indian farmers, would handsomely re 777. 3, as hown by the returns required to be made under the wurd the husbandman. ~hese things are not po si!Jle, of coltr e: Arizona oullion1 tax law. while the present boundaries of the Fort Apache and Sa~ u the \ery w stern edge of the re erva tion are the mining Carlos Indian: Reserrntion maintain, and the pos e ·ors of the ill tricts around G1obe- and l\liami that, according to the same arts of civilization are prohibited from aYailinQ"' themselves of returns produced • .f 401r9%41. The e statistics are two years the natural advantages here set aside and re erv d for the re :\Ir. HAYDEN. I hope that I will not take that much time, Mr. MA1'"'N. Both on the San Carlos? Mr. Chairman. As I say, I think the Indians ought to do their Mr. HAYDEN. One across the San Carlos and one across the share in building up the good roads of the State. There is no Gila River. better way in which to jmprove a country than to build roads Mr. MANN. Where does the gentleman get his figures for the and bridges. That is one of the best ways I know of in which estimated cost? to expend public funds. The construction of these particular Mr. HAYDEN. On page 4 of the report. The estimate of the bridges will benefit the Indians in opening up the country so bridge across the San Carlos is $19,800; across the Gila River, that the timber, coal, and copper there will be worth something. -$45,500. . This reservation would be worthless, as it was before the ad 1\Ir. l\IAl'rn'. That is the basis of the gentleman's estimate? J ·rnnt of the white people, except for the fa.ct that the whole Mr. HAYDEN. Yes. surrounding country has been settled by white people, which l\Ir. MANN. Is the gentleman able to say how much land makes a market for the material things that the Indians own. there is on the off side of the river which requires the bridge And as the Indians will get the benefit of the increased value across the Gila River? which comes from the settlement of the country by white Mr. HAYDEN. According to the report there are 4,000 acres people, a part of that value ought to go into the improving of irrigable land on the south side of the stream, and of that of roads and the building of bridges for the common benefit of amount 1,400 acres is now ready for cultivation. all the people of the State. Mr. l\IANN. There is, I belleye, a proposition to erect a dam Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. If the gentleman will allow me to there, is there not? ask him a question, is the State of Arizona jn a :financial condi l\fr. HAYDEN. Yes. tion. to put in these bridges at its-own expense, or to furnish a Mr. MANN. Bow much of the 4,000 acres will be sub part of the money at this time, owing to the fact that it is a merged if the San Carlos Dam is constructed? new State and in an undeveloped condition? Mr. HAYDEN. According to the report, the way I read it, Mr. HAYDEN. The State of Arizona is in a :financial condi these particular 4,000 acres, being located upon the south side tion to no any necessary bridge and road work. I do not think of the Gila and above the junction of the two streams, would not be floode~. but could be used to create farms for the In there will be any difficulty about the State doing its share. dians whose farms might be flooded lower down near the In the case of the Yuma bridge the interest of the Indians in reservoir. , . its construction across the Colorado River amounts to one-third Mr. MANN. How does the gentleman figure that out from of the cost. Under the circumstances the State of California the report? In the instructions we gave the engineers they hould pay one-third of the cost and the State of Arizona one were directed to locate the bridge so that the dam could be third. In the case of the Gila and San Carlos bridges it is thereafter constructed and the bridge would not be under shown by the reports, and there is no evidence to the contrary, water. that the work fa primarily of the greatest benefit to the Indians, Mr. HAYDEN. Yes. of more benefit to them than to anybody else, and the benefit to Mr. MANN. What is there in the report that indicates that the State is only incidental. The benefit to the State is in hav the 4,000 acres would not be submerged? ing a through road across the reservation. Mr. HAYDEN. I may be drawing on my knowledge of the Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. What is the distance across the geography of the country. San Carlos Indian Reservation at the point where the bridges l\Ir. l\IAl~N. Or on the imagination. 'are to be built? - Mr. HAYDEN. If the gentleman would permit me .to draw Mr. HAYDEN. Fifty-six miles from where you enter the on my imagination on the floor of the Bouse, I might. ) reservation to where you come out of it, and the bridge is about Mr. MANN. The gentleman said that he had no personal balf way between the two points. knowledge of this situation. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Bow far. are the streams apart Mr. HAYDEN. Except by traveling across the reservation once. where these bridges are to be built? Mr. MA.i.~N. The report says there are 4,000 acres of land, l\lr. HAYDEN. I do not know how far it is llcross the neck of which 1,400 have been and 700 more are being platt~d, and of land, but I suppose it is 4 or 5 miles. this land is divided into 118 small farms. Ur. STEPBE:NS of Texas. Then the persons to be immedi And immediately following that: . ately benefited would be the Indians, who now have the land The construction of the proposed San Carlos Dam would submerge and have 100 settlements of farms, and so forth? · valuable land below the agency, and many Indian families will be com l\Ir. HAYDEN. Yes; those facts are shown in the report, al pelled to find homes elsewhere. The amount of_ land that would be though I have no personal knowledge of them. submerged and the number of Indians that would be disturbed are ~Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Has the gentleman personal unknown to me. knowledge as to the time that would be saved by these bridges? The two are in that conjunction which would lead one not ~Ir. HAYDEN. I never have crossed the Gila RiYer at the personally familiar with the physical condition there to suppose San Carlos Crossing but once, and at that time there was ·about they related to the same matter. 2 feet of water in it, but there were quicksands enough to stop Mr. HAYDEN. The Gila River flows west\vard-- nn automobile for half a day. There is more danger from The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Arizona quicksands than from anything else. But it is a torrential has expired. stream, liable to rise in a few hours and become unfordable. Mr. RAKER. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that l\lr. TILSON. l\lay I ask the gentleman a question? the gentleman be permitted to proceed for :firn minutes. ) l\Ir. HAYDEN. Certainly. The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? Mr. TILSON. The gentleman has said that it is about 50 There was no objection. miles across the reservation one way, and that the bridge is Mr. HAYDEN. This report states that these 4,000 acre of about in the center. Will the gentleman state as to the other land are located east of the proposed site of the bridge. The direction, how far across it is and how near the bridge is to the river flows to the west. And if the bridge is located far enough center? upstream not .to be submerged and this land is still to the east Mr. HAYDEN. The reservation is about 70 miles across each of the bridge, then the land naturally will not be submerged, way-approximately square. The line of road cuts the west because the basin of the reservoir is located lower down the boundary, dropping to the south, and then goes farther east and valley. leaves the reservation ab°"ut the middle of the south boundary. Mr. MANN. That would bring one to the consideration of ~Ir. TILSON. Bow near is the bridge to the boundary? where the bridge is to be located. The gentleman says these .Mr. HAYDEN. It is about 30 miles. from Globe to San 4,000 acres are east of the site of the bridge. Where is the Carlos, where the bridges are located. It is about 25 miles to bridge to be located? where the road leaves the other side of the reservation. Mr. HAYDEN. Six miles above the junction of the San Mr. TILSON. It is well within the reservation? Carlos and the Gila. ~Ir. HAYDEN. Yes, indeed. Mr. MANN. There are two bridges-and where else? I ; :Mr. l\lANN. Will the gentleman yield? notice the report says 4 miles northeast of ·the San Carlqs ~Ir. HAYDEN. I will. RiYer. The gentleman says that the property jt:ist east of the \ j Mr. l\IA..i~. How large an appropriation does the amendment San Carlos is east of the bridge. The report of the Secretary carry? of the Interior says that the bridge will be 4 miles aorth Mr. HAYDEX Sixty-firn thousand three hundred dolJars. east of the San Carlos River. In order to assist the gentle Mr. MANN. For how many briUges? man's reco1Jection· as to the physical condition of the ·ground l\Ir. HAYDEN. Two. there, I will state it is true that the Secretary of the Interior 1028 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD- ROUSE. JANUARY 4, locates the bridge 4 miles northeast of tlle San Carl-0s and bridges and developing their lands they will remain there for th~ supervi ion of eonstruction locates it 4 miles northwest hundreds of years. possibly, as they ha-ve in the past. I think of the San Carlos. I do not undertake to say where it is to it has been shown that it would ·be for the benefit of the In '6e between these t\Yo pG-ints, '8 mUes apart. dians, that it would be for the benefit of the State and for the .Mr. HAYDEX If the gentleman will pardon me, there are benefit of the white people of that country that these brid~s two b1·idges. and dams should be built in order that that land can be i;ri- Mr. l\IANN. I am talking about one bridge. It is true there ?ted. :and the country de·veloped. I desire to say, further, it are to be two bridges. I am talking about one bridge. iWhere is qmte a hard matter to get a bill through separately. We is it to ·be? could not now; we would have to wait until next year before . l\fr. HAYDEN. The en_gineer who was .on the _gronnd says : ' anything can be -done. The Government has been amply pro . In eonsider.ing the best ,leca.tion fo.r bridges .above flow line .of the tected. We have spent a thousand dollars in having this proEosed 'San Carl-os Reservoir, it was found necessa17 to go app1·oxi- examination made. It is perfectly sa ti.sfactory to the depart·· m!l ely 6 miles n~rtheast from the San Carlos . railroad station -on the ment, perfectly satisfactory to the Indian agent, and therefore Gila and 4 miles northwest on the San Carlos Riyer. O 1\Ir. STEPIIENS of Texu . I have no objection to passing~ Mr. .MONDELL. l\ly inquiry was wby the committee in its that part untu we reach the close of the bill. but in the event wisdom-I assume it was in its wisdom, and I.. hope not in its of closing to-day we conlcl take it up at the end of the bill. lack of wisdom-failed to insert the item in the bill which I The CHAIRMAN. A portion of the motion of the gentleman have just read. It occurs in the Book of Estimates just before from California [Mr. RAKER] is that the part indicated by him the item to which my formal motion was made. The item was shall be pas ed without prejudice for the present. left out. Why? .Mr. C..A.RTER. Does that include the entire State? :Mr. STEPHb~S of Texas. Be...--ause we did not think we M1·. RAKER. It includes it, as I understand. down to the were justified in inserting that item without information from word " Florida, ' line , on page 11. the irrigation engineers and the parties in chru·ge of the work Mr. :MA~'N. Mr. Chairman, reserving the right to object, I on that reservation. will ask the chairman of the committee what his disposition is7 Mr. l\f01\'DELL. From a rather hurried reading of the state~ I notice the gentleman from California [l\Ir. RAKER] first asked ment, it seems to me quite clear that the Indians can not use to have the California items passed for the day. The gentle- the water rights they already haYe. This is exceedingly im man from Texas [1\Ir. STEPHENS] suggested that they pass to portant. The department wants to sectil'e nn appropriation for the end of the bill, which, of course, is pe1·fectly agreeable. these Indians. The department has been rather derelict in its Will the gentJeman Jet me know how long he intends to keep duty in that regard in the past-not the recent past-and I am the House in se sion? glad they are proposing to do this in this case. They ought Mr. STEPHE.t~S of Texas. I haye a faint hope that we will to ha-ve the money necessary. The department does not ask get through with this bill to-day. much, but whatel'er is necessary they ought to have. They l\lr. MANN. That may be true. But how long will the com- already have this 1,000 acres of land with the water right. The mittee remain in session? river rises and overflows the Ian~ The water recedes, the land Mr. STEPHEl~S of Texas. That will be subject to the wish dries out, and the ditches are gone. They want some dikes to of the committee. hold back the inundating floods. They want to appropriate :Mr. MANN. I know. But we might stay here until 12 some more water, and, of course, they will have to make sur o'clock to-night What I want to know is whether the gentle- veys and prepare maps and plans in order to meet the require ma.n intends to keep the House in session longer on Saturday . ments of the State engineer's office, and an that, and all that night than formerly? costs money. lli. STEPHENS of Texas. Ob, I think not. Now, there is something said about the purchase of additional Mr. MANN. It does not look to me, from the number of items water rights at $25 an acre. The committee may have some in which myself and others are interested in this bill, that it is question as to the- advisability of doing that, but the commis practical to fini h the bill to-day by 5 o'clock. sioner calls attention to the fact that the sum he seeks is lJl'i Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. We can certainly do something marily for the purpose I haye indicated-that of building the on the bill. dikes and acqouing the necessary water rights. lli. MANN. There will be no objection to that. I simply .Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. And they are asking for 1,000 wanted to know the disposition o:f the gentleman about it. acres. more. We were not willing to go into that. The CHAIRMAN. The motion of the gentleman from Cali- Mr. MONDELL. Well~ as urning that the committee was not fornia [Mr. RAKEB} is that the items as to California, down to prepared to bav-e that done, surely that would not justify the -the word u Floricla," page 11. line 8, may be passed until the denial of the request for sufficient money to build mall dikes balance of the bill is completed, and that then the California. and to secure some water rights-in other words to clinch items may be taken up for co-n icleration. Is there objection? what the Government now has and make it availabl~ for u e. There was no objection. The CHAIRM..A..N. The time of the gentleman has expired. Mr. .MO::NDELL. Mr. Chairman,. I moYe to strike out the last Mr. FEURIS. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Wyoming word. [Mr. ~IoNDELLJ complains that we left out here a 50,000 item, l\Ir. STEPHE...~S of Texas. :Mr. Chairman, there bas nothing and we did. been read since the California items have been passed. We ha:ve Mr. MO!\'DELL. The gentleman should not reiterate the reached "Florida" and none of the items have been read. statement that I complained. I inquired in this case-. I pro- Mr. MONDELL. That is the situation. But I made inquiry tested in the other. of the Chair whether the disposition of the matter just refeITed 1\lr. FERRIS. Well, let it go at that. The gentleman in to would preelade my offering an amendment taking op- the quired. I do not care to be technical about it. I do not want Wyoming item? to misrepresent the gentleman. This calls for a new project The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will state the situation, which of 1,000 acres of irrigable land, and it calls for a pumping plant. is as indicated by the gentleman from Wyoming [Mr. l\IoNDELL]. We haYe had a serious experience with pumping-plant projects After we have disposed of the part referred to, the Chair will down there, because the price per acre is more than the le sees certainly, in pursnance of what he stated, recognize- the gentle- are willing to pay, and the mo ey is expended without getting man from Wyoming [Mr. MONDELL}. anything of value in return. Now let me read what the de- Mr. MONDELL. .Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out the last pa.rtment says: .J word for the purpose of asking the chairman of the committee This item should be a nonreimbursable appropriation. 'rhe e Indians why the committee failed to insert in the bill an item contained have !mt lit~e assistance from the Governmei;it and are practically des in the estimates for the continuation of the construction of titnte and wtthout resow·ce . Great destructi~n has been done to their dikes and other protection for allotments on the- Fort :Mohave lands by the encroachment of the Colo1·ado River. Reservation. Now, here is his estimate: There would seem to be quite as urgent reasons for that par- It is estimat~d .that at a cost of $?5,000 ~ater can be. pumped ~m~o ·cul r ·tem as for any of the items that are contained in the 1,000 acres of irrigable land on the. Nevada side of the r1ver, and 1t is t ~ a 1 ~ " . . proposed that 20,000 be used durmg the fiscal year 1914 to make a bill. It seems that the Cotton Land & Irrigation Co.-I get start on this w9rk. th.is ~rom a htu~ied reading of the state1:11ent made by ~e com- Now the facts are these: They get 1,000 acres of land irri nnss10n~1·-furmshed the Gover~~nt with tJ;ie ~ater right~ of gated :from this Cotton Land Development Co. free. It costs the a certam acreage, 1,000 ac~·es, it IS stated, m lieu of .a right Government nothing. It costs the Indians nothing. This is of way across ~e resenati?~· That would seem on .its face afforded them by the company for the use of the water. We to be a rather liberal pr~position, favo~·able to the Indians and thought that that in all probability was as much or more than the Gov~rnment. Now; it ~as been di~covered tha.t the lands they wouJd utilize and more than they would farm, and we did over which the water right is ti:us acqmred are S1;1~Ject to over- not want to launch out on a new project, on a pumping plant, flow; and there~ore the water right c~ not be u~ because which in all probability would cost so much that it would be a~ times there is. too much w~ter com~~ fron:i the nse of the prohibitive. The Director of the Reclamation Service. l\Ir. river, and ther~ is the necessity o~ ~uilding dikes for ~e pur- Newell, explainecl to us, not once but on nearly every one of po .e of. protectrng the l.ands to be irr1ga_ted, the wat~r right~ for these items, that where you have to lift the water out of the which IS already acqmr~, fron;i the rise o~ the river. :Now, earth, the wear and tear of machinery and the rusting out and that would seem to be a m1ghty llllPer to reimburse it. to provide school facilities for the children of the 'avajo Tribe of l\Ir. MONDELL. I think the gentleman is mistaken. This Indians, the sum of 150,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary, item was in the appropriation bill at $25,000 last year. ls hereby appropriated out of any funds in the Treasury not otllerwire Mr. FERRIS. "\Ye ha>e it in the bill now, on page 10, lines appropriated. 7 to 17, at $25,000: 1\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. But, 1\lr. Chairman, ·we har-e For completion of the con truction of necessary channels and laterals passed Arizona to which those items relate. for tbe utilization of water in connection with the pumping plant for l\lr. 1\10}.J)ELL. Yes; but I rose to ask a que tion of the irrigation purpo es on the Colorado River Indian Resen·ation, Ariz., as provided in the act of April. 4 •. 1910 (36 Stats. L., p ..273), for the_ chairman why the committee in its wisdom left the item out, purpose of securing an appropnahon of water for the irrigation of ap and also another item following it, the water supply for the proximately 150,000 a<::J.·es of I;rnd and for maintainin~ an~ . operating Navajo Indians, $100,000. And another item for enlarging the tbe pumping plant, $20.000, reimbur ablo as provided m said act, and irrigation system for the protection and irrigation of Indian to remain available until expended. lands within the Camp McDowell Indian Reservation, Ariz., l\Ir. MONDELL. I am not talking about the Colorado Indian $30,000. These two last items are new items, but the first item Ile ervation item at all. I read is an item propo ing to carry out a treaty stipulation. l\lr. FERRIS. What item is the gentleman talking about? l\lr. STEPHEN"S of Texas. I desire to answer the gentleman 1\lr. l\fO:NDELL. About the item in the Book of Estimates fully. I presume the Committee on Indian Affairs has the above that. That is not in the bill. right to legislate by adopting tile legislation asked for of the l\Ir. FERRIS. That is a new item entirely. It was not in House by the department, or we have the right to reject it, and the bill last year. we saw proper to reject it. That is the only statement I can Mr. MONDELL. 'Then the Book of Estimates is in error. make. l\Ir. FERRIS. The Book of E. timates does not contain what Mr. l\IONDELL. I realize that the gentleman's committee was in the bill last year. It merely contains what the depart saw fit to reject it, but is it not proper for me to ask tbe chair ment suggested. man for the reasons tpat led the committee to reject it? Dill Mr. 1\101"-il)ELL. The Book of Estimates contains the state tiley investigate it? ment of what was in the bill last year. l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. We inT"estigated every item pre l\!r. FERRIS. This was not in the bill last year. sented to us, and after a full ~xamlnation of this matter we l\lr. l\IO:r-.J)ELL. What I refer to is the act of August 24, thought that we could not afford at the present time and under 1912. \olumc 37, page 533, section 25, 25,000. I do not know present conditions to allow these matters to creep into the bill. whether that is the same item or not, but the Bobk of Estimates Mr. MONDELL. I do not understand how the committee indicates that this item was in the bill last year for $25,000. could well refu e to take action in regard to this matter, and I Mr. FERRIS. It was in the bill last year and it is in the bill can not find anything in the. hearings to indicate that the com· this year. There is nothing left out of the bill this year that mittee went into it at any length. was in last year. We merely refused to put new stuff in. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I do not know that we are re .Mr. MONDELL. Where? sponsible to the gentleman from Wyoming for our action. We .Mr. FERRIS. In the same place, beginning with line 7, on tilought we were responsible to the Hou e and that we were vage 10, and ending with line 17, on page 10. justified in not reporting the items. l\Ir. l\IO:NDELL. On the contrary, the item that the gentle Mr. MO:r-.J)ELL. If the chairman of the committee does not man refers to is an entirely different item. I am talking about want to answer-- the 1\Ioja>e Reserr-ation item. The gentleman is talking about 1\lr. STEPHE:NS of Texas. I hn>e answered the gentleman the Colorado River Indian ReseITation. I am talking about an as fully as I can. item tilat is not in the bill, but which is in the Book of Esti Mr. MONDELL. Why, he can do so. Ile is not responsible mates. to me at all. Mr. FERRIS. We did not allow the item. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I am not responsible for the com l\Ir. MONDELL. The gentleman stated that it was in the mittee I preside over except as one of its members. !Jill. l\Ir. MONDELL. I deem it my duty to be informed as to .Mr. FERRIS. It is not. Last year the bill carried this these matters, a..nd I simply asked a question, which I think is language: " For continuing the construction of dikes or other a very proper question, why the committee saw fit to lea"Ve these protection for the allotments on the Fort l\loja\e Reservation, items out of the bill. $25,000." That was to build dikes to be constructed for the l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I will again make as uccinct an benefit of the Fort l\lojn >e Indians. The Indian Committee answer as I can. We did not think the condition of the Treas investigated that fully and believed that the $25,000 was suffi ury justified us in making these appropriations at this time, cient for continuing the construction of the dikes. But the and the committee was of the unanimous opinion that they department sought a new section, and they inserted another should not now be g1;anted. item in the bottom of the bill they sent to us, reading in this Mr. MONDELL. You did not think it necessary to discuss way, "To purchase additional water rights for $50,000 "; and the matter with the commissioner. • I 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-ROUSE. 1031 ~Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Oh, there were hearings -0n every Mr. lL:U~. How much of th-e money that has been -expended Hem. We had the commissionH and the clerks before us, both has been paid to the Indians and how much has been used by the ehief clerk and th-e Assistant Oommissioner of Indian Af- the -department'? fair . If the gentleman will turn to pages W, 57, and 58 of Mr. STEPHEl"S of Texas. There was $154 expended· for tlie printed hearings of this session he will find that matter the purpose of investigating this matter, leaving a balance of fnlly discus ed., and I do not think it is necessary to discuss it $9,846 out of the 10,000. Here is .an .analysis. Salaries and again on this tloor. wages $100, traveling expenses $54, total $154. Taking that l\Ir. :MONDELL. There was >ery little inquiry with reg.ard from $10,000 it leases a balance of $9,846. to the Camp .l.UcDowell matter, .and that is a matte-r that has Mr. MANN. I think the gentleman's arithmetic is correct. been agitated a good deal in the past year. Now, for two years we have earried this appropriation fot• the l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I will refer the gentleman to support o:f Indians in Florida. The temptation has not pro>en the printed hearings and the statements I made. I think that beyond the control of the gentleman in charge of the Indian is a sufficient answer. Office. There never was any -0ccasion for appropriating one Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman may conside1· it sufficient. cent for those Indians. I tried to persuade the House to that It does not seem to me there is any sufficient answer in the effect when we made the first appropriation, but the Committee hearings as printed. on Appropriations represented how much money we would have Mr. 111.A1''N. Mr. Chairman, I mo·rn to strike out the last to expend to keep these Indians there from starving to death. two words for the purpose of asking the distinguished gentle- They h.ad the money two years and ha>e not expended one cent man from Texas [l\fr. STEPHENS] a question, hoping I will get except $154 for some gentleman to take a nice trip to Florida more info1·mation than the gentleman from Wyoming [Mr. during the wintertime. Mo:NDELL] obtained by his question. .Mr. FERRIS. Will the gentleman yield? Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. If the gentleman will permit me, Mr. MAl~. I always yield. I will let the gentleman read in his own time the reasons given Mr. FERRIS. I desire to say to the gentleman that the by the committee why they did not permit those three items to President has really taken .some steps. These Indians in the go into the bill. Everglades are as wild as rabbits, .and up to this time they have Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, the gentleman from Texas and not been able to do anytl:l'ing with them, but the President has myself have very different ideas of the duties of a man in by Executi>e order set aside a tract of land comprising 85~000 .acres and the Indian Office has tried to get these Indians charge of a bill. When the gentleman in charge of a bill is on it, tried to get hold of them, lasso them, or catch them ill asked a question in regard to the bill, I have never understood so.me -0th.er way, and put them on it. that it was a sufficient answer to reply "Read the hearings," Mr. MANR This talk about the Indians being so wild is all because everybody knows eyery Member of the House can not fudge. read the hearings before all the committees. It is expected M FERR R w n, Offi that when a gentleman in charge of a bill has had hearin!?S r. 1 I · e the Indian ce legally, and as this work progresses there is going to be some Mr. CARTER. The real pmpose of this $10,000 item is inves necessity for an investigation of the condition of these people tigation. It has been explained in the House that the President to find out just what should be done with them and just what has set aside a certain amount of land for them, and now it is _can be done for them, and for that reason I think this appro going to take some money to investigate and find out who are priation of $10,000 should remain in the bill until it is made Seminoles, and find out when and how they shall be placed on use of for their benefit or until a final investigation of the the land. . question is made by the department. The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Oklahoma l\Ir. AUSTIN. How many are there? [Mr. CARTER] has expired. l\Ir. CARTER. One of the purposes of this investigation is Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Mr. Chairman, I ask that the to find out the number of Indians and to enroll them. gentleman have five minutes more. . l\lr. AUSTIN. Would not the census report of Florida show The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the request of the that? gentleman from Pennsylvania? l\Ir. CARTER. A census report never shows conclusi\ely the There was no objection. : exact number of any people of any nationality. It shows in a The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Oklahoma [1\Ir. CAR· general way, but does not show as definitely as would be neces TEB] is recognized for five minutes more. sary for allotment purposes or for support and civilization. I Ur. MOORE of Pennsylvania. The item of_$10,000 provides think there are about 400 of them. for the relier of distress among the Seminole Indians. It is l\lr. l\IOOilE of Pennsylvania. A great many of these Indians not a question of investigation at all. That is the point that drift into Miami and St. Augustine and Jacksonville. They I am making. drift out of the Everglades and go into these cities. l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. It is a question of reappropria l\lr. CARTER. I _did not meet any in Jacksonnlle, but saw tion, I will state to the gentleman from Pennsylvania. It is several at Miami. made available in accordance with the provisions of the act of l\1r. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I have gone through the Ever :!\larch 3, 1911. . glades and I ha\e seen those Indians seemingly engaged in l\Ir. MOORE of Pennsylvania. I have not the act before me. pursuits, selling trinkets and cotton goods, and coming into I have the bill. The bill says, in quotation marks, "For relief town to make purchases. Does the gentleman infer when he of distress among the Seminole Indians in Florida, and for pur speaks of those Indians with whom he came in contact, that poses of their civilization," so that it is not a question of infor they were supposed to live far off in the Everglades and out mation and it is not a question of investigation or securing any of reach of civilization and did not come into town? more data than we already have on this subject. As presented l\Ir. CARTER. Those I saw were mostly Indians who came to the House, the proposition is that we shall lay aside this into town, and if those remotely removed from civilizrrtion are $10,000 for possible relief of distress that may occur among the any less capable than those I met in the towns, then, indeed, Seminoles. they need some care from the -Federal GoYernment. Mr. CARTER. I think, Mr. Chariman, we can assume that l\lr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Well, some of them assuredly before we can relieve· distress we must first investigate about are self-supporting. the relief of that distress and to what extent relief can be Mr. CARTER. That is true as long as the fish and game given. rema in in the E\erglades. 1\Ir. l\IOORE of Pennsylvania. Yet we have a statement here Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Some of them act as guides that but little over $100 has been spent for an investigation of out of Miami. a situation concerning which we have very little information l\lr. CARTER. And if the Everglades remain, will there be before the committee, so that it would seem that the main pur .use for guides? pose of the item pending here is to send people down there to l\lr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. The State of Florida is already look into the EYerg,lades, which has been done time and time draining the Everglades, and there is a constant report concern again, and to withhold that fund until the department is as ing the condition of the Indians. sured by somebody that the Indians are in distress. 1\lr. CARTER. The Indian as an attraction has got to be done away with as civilization progresses, a:o..d these IncUans 1\Ir. CARTER. Perhaps, Mr. Chairman, the wording of the will have to be given some attention in order that they may be provision might be changed to advantage. What should be made a self-supporting, ·self-reliant people. done, in my opinion, is that an investigation should be made l\lr. l\IOORE of Pennsylvania. That is what I should like to at the earliest possible moment of the condition of these people see, but the gentleman from Oklahoma [Mr. FERRIS] spoke of and the number of them, the number of acres that would be the Seminoles as wild rabbits, but that statement is somewhat required for their allotments, and as to what plan should be modified by the gentleman from Oklahoma [1\lr. CARTER]. pursued by the Federal Government for their education and .Th ey certainly do fraternize with the white man and come civilization. out in the open, although· there is certainly a mystery concern Mr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. They should be · treated as ing those who live far off in the Everglades, and are ne\er sup other Indians are treated. posed to get into a civilized territory-- 1\Ir. CARTER. Yes. That is the point exactly. Certainly 1\lr. CARTER. Undoubtedly. they should be treated as other Indians are treated. The time ' l\lr. MOORE of Pennsyl-rania. But an improvement has been has probably not come yet when any funds might be used for made in tpe Seminoles. the relief of distress among them, because, as I stated two or l\Ir. CARTER. The Government owes something to the Semi three times already, as long as the Everglades are there they noles of Florida, both on the grounds of having deprived them will probably not need any relief from distress, but they do need of millions of dollars' worth of valuable property and on ac something for civilization. Something is needed, I think, for count of their incapacity, for as soon as their native haunt, inyestiga tion of the condition. the Everglades, are destroyed as hunting and fishing grounds Mr. l\IONDELD. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? they will become poverty-stricken and degenerate to the level The CHAIRMAN. Does the gentleman from Oklahoma yield of beggars and mendicants. But if the proper care and · super to the gentleman from Wyoming? nsion are accorded them they may become substantial, self Mr. CARTER. Yes; I yield to the gentleman from Wyoming. reliant citizens. .!.\fr. MONDELL. The gentleman suggests that we should care. l\lr. MOORE of Pennsylvania. Does not the gentleman, who for these Indians, particularly if the Everglades are drained. is so conversant with the ramifications of the subject, think the Is not the gentleman aware of the fact that practically all of Seminole will take up all the farm land of Florida, which is those lands have gone to the State of Florida, and that they are also an inducement to the white man? the property of the State of Florida, and that they have been l\lr. CARTER. I think they will, if they are given proper disposed of, substantially? Why should not the State of Florida attention and proper care along certain lines by the Federal take care of these poor, unfortunate people? Government, be merged into our citizenship. Without that care .!.\Ir. CARTER. It is not, I think, and it has never been the and attention they may become extinct in a few years and pass J?Olicy of the Federal Government .to impose those duties on the out of e.xistence, as is usually the case when nothing is done States. I am free to admit that in some cases the States might for helpless people. do this better than the Federal Go>ernment but. as the gentle 1\Ir. MOORE of Pennsylvania. But will this $10,000 be a man well knows, since the inception of this Government its drop in the bucket? Would it not constitute a temptation for avowed policy has been to care for the Indians itself, and care investigation like those which ha\e already been made for for Indian affairs, especially of those of Indians that are help acquiring information which the State of Florida has made? less and incompetent. . ' 1913. CONGRESSIONAL-RECORD-· HOUSE. !I03a l\Ir. 1\IONDELL. But these are Indians that have ne\er been 12,000,000 acres of swamp land, is s6 unmindful of the people placed on a reservation. of its State that it will not support them .. because tha strong Mr. CAR'£Elt. They ought to be allotted. I do not belieye arm of the Federal Government does not reach out and protect in the reser>a tion system. them? I ha\e no such low estimate of the character of the l\lr. l\10NTIELL. They ha>e never been on n reservation. people of Florida or the State of Florida. I think they can be They haYe ncyer been under Go>ernnient care. They are part dei)ended upon to do the right thing. . of the State of Florida. The State of F1oricla occupies the l\Ir. ,nLLER. l\Ir. Chairman, I did not yield to the gentle lands. They hunt and fish oyer them. Why should not the man from Wyoming to make a speech. He has made his speech State of Florida· take en.re of them? re1)eatedly and I ha\e always listened to it with pleasure. The l\lr. CARTER. The same thing mi"ht apply to the gentle last time he made it with greater emphasis than before, and I man · own State or to tha State which I haYe the honor in listened to it with greater pleasure on my part. I want to say part to represent. that I do not deem it ruy duty to defend the State of Florida, 1\Ir. l\10:NDELL. I hope, if tlle time eYer comes that the peo but I do believe the State of Florida .has taken as much care ple of my State haYe receiyed from the Indians all the property of its people and spent as much of its own money to care for they haye in the State, we will not forevermore be calling upon the Seminoles in the Everglades us the State of Wyoming has the Federal GoYernment to take care of our own unfortunates. spent on the Indians of that State. I do not think that is good policy. l\1r. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman- 1\Ir. CARTER. Is the gentleman so sure-- Mr. MILLER. I ha\e not quite closed. 1\Ir. MONDELL. Of course, I realize that the gentleman, be l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I simply want to ask unanimons ing from Oklahoma, wants to fortify himself on that proposi consent that all debate on this paragraph close in five minutes. tion, because he may be looking forward to the time-- The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the request of the gen- Mr. OARTER. On what proposition? tleman from Texas will be considered as agreed to. l\lr. 1\fONDELL. On the proposition that the Federal Gov There was no objection. ernment must fore\ermore care for those who are unforttmate l\lr. MILLER. l\Ir. Chairman-- and unable to take care of themselves and who may have a Mr. FOWLER. l\Ir. Chairman, I rise to a point of order. strain of Indian blood in them. I say that because the gentle Mr. l\lILLER. I belieye I have the floor. man from Oklahoma has a great many such people in his State. The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Illinois will state his l\lr. CARTER. Does the gentleman mean that personally? point of order. . l\lr. MONDELL. Oh, no. The gentleman from Oklahoma, to l\Ir. FOWLER. The gentleman from Minnesota has the floor, whom I am now addressing my remarks, is always able to take and there was one motion pending before the House at the time care of himself, and always will be, and I am sure his pos when the gentleman from Texas made the motion to limit debate terity will be. on this paragraph to five minutes. Mr. MANN. I hope the gentleman from Oklahoma will be supported at the expense of the Gornrnment as long as he The CHAIR.MAN. That was only by unanimous consent that lh·es. [Laughter.] the Chair put it in that way. The Chair did not state it in a Mr. MONDELL. In his present position. I join in that hope. formal way, but if the committee desires·will do so. l\fr. CARTER. I thank both gentlemen. Now I will yield Mr. FOWLER. I desire to inquire of the Chair if it is not to the gentleman from Minnesota [l\Ir. MILLER]. in effect a motion? Mr. MILLER. I simply desired to make ..a statement in con The CHAIRMA...."1\1". It is. nection with what the gentleman was then saying, but I would Mr. FOWLER. Then there can not be two motions pendlng rather be recognized in my own right now. before the House at the same time. l\Ir. CARTER. I think I ha>e said about all I cared to say. The CHAIRMAN. Only by unanimous con ent; you can do l\Ir. MILLER. Mr. Chairman, my recollection of the time anything by unanimous consent. The gentleman from Minne when this item was first inserted in the bill is rather distinct. sota did not object to the request made by the gentleman from I think it was three years ago that representation was made Texas· in his time. to the committee that the Seminoles of Florida were· in a dis l\fr. l\IILLER. No; but I sha11 object to my firn minutes tressing condition, and needed some immediate aid from the being consumed by the discussion of this point of order. Goyerument. I think it is necessary that we should bear in The CIIAIRlIAN. This does not come out of the gentleman's mind that these particular Seminoles are those who refused to time. migrate or leaye their native place when the main body of the l\Ir. MILLER. l\Ir. Chairman, I desire in addition to state Seminoles were remoyed to what is now Oklahoma. In other that the urgency of the situation existed three years ago, be~ words, these Indians are tefugees. They are swamp birds. cause the Committee on Indian Affairs of the House incorpo They are unrelated to any other band of Indians. '!'hey have rated this appropriation. I remember a year ago when this no means, they ha·rn no property. All the ownership they .have item came back as one not haling been ·expended and to be re of anything is rn much of the air as they b.reathe and so much appropriated it was remarked that the department had done of ·the fruit of the trees as they can gather that nature gives nothing toward relie>ing the distress among these Indians. them. It was represented at that time that they were in a That comes back to-day with greater strength than a year ago, distressing condition and that they needed $10,000 to aid them. and I for one believe that there should be incorporated in the Kow, I do not think it is at all wise to suggest that the State item a requirement that the department should make a detailed of Florida should be required or expected to take care of these statement of the situation respecting the lndians within the Indians. Everybody knows that the State of Florida will not current year. do it. No State has ever done it. No State expects to do it. l\Ir. FOWLER. l\fr. Chairman, I desire to ask the chairman '.rhese Indians, if they are wards of any sovereignty, are the in charge of this committee a few questions with reference to wards of the Federal Government, and it is the duty of the determining the status of the Indians in Florida. I understood Federal Government to take care of them, as it has been the from the speech of the gentleman from Minnesota that these duty of the Feueral Government to take care of Indians every Florida Indians are refugees. Now, I have always understood, where. Mr. Chairman, that they are descendants of the Indians who Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman comes from a State having were originally found in Florida at the discovery of America, or a considerable Indian population? of that portion thereof, and that when the Seminole Indians ~Ir. MILLER. Yes. were transferred from Florida to the West these Indians or Mr. l\IO:NDELL. I suppose that has nothing to do with the their ancestors were so dernted to their homes that they· refused gentleman's position. to lea\e and go to the mountains, where there was nothing but l\Ir. MILLER. They do not draw one cent from the Federal rocks and rills. They desired to stay in the fertile land of Treasury, but IlaY tlleir own expenses. flowers amid the Everglades. :hfr. Chairman, I desire to ask l\lr. MONDELL. That is as·it should be, and I am surprised the gentleman, the distinguished chairman of this committee, if that the gentleman does not want the State of Florida to adopt anything has ever been done for the purpose of aiding these the same methou . Indians in Florida in their ciYilization and education? l\lr. l\IILLETI. I do; but here are refugees without' any prop l\fr. STEPHENS of Texas. That was the purpose of this ap-· erty, without a tribe, without a home that they can cull their propriation-for the relief of distress among the Seminole In own. dians in Florida, and for the purpose of their ciYilization. Au l\Ir. ~IONDELL. Has it come to this-that the great State inyestigation is being made by the department as to how best of Florida, a beneficiary of the Goyernment to the extent of to accomplish that purpose. il034 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-- HOUSE~ JANUARY 4, Mr. FOWLER. Nothing has ever been done in the way of and I ask that the gentleman be confined to the matter before their education? • the committee- Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. No; because they have llot deter The CHAIRMAN. As far as the gentleman has gone, he has mined as yet what is the best means to pursue in order to edu referred to matters that have been been dispo ·ed of in con cate and civilize them. nection with what he intends to say. .Mr. FOWLER. They have always taken care of themselves? Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. We are now under the heau of Mr. 'STEPHENS of Texas. Up to the present time; but it is "Idaho," and the gentleman desires to go back to some items belieyed they can not do it in the future, owing to the fact that under the head of " Wyoming." the Everglades are being drained and the land parceled out and Mr. MOl\TDELL. Mr. Chairman, I am willing to discn the sold, so that they will have no hunting and fishing grounds. IQ.aho item. Before u is an item for the support of Indium; l\1r. FOWLER. No land has been allotted to them in the on the Fort Hall Indian Reservation. The committee proposes State of Florida? to expend $30,000 for that purpose. I do not know we are l\Ir. STEPHE:NS of Texas. It is proposed to do that. under any treaty obligation to do it, but the committee proposes l\Ir. FOWLER. Is that the contention of the committee-that to do it; probably it is proper they should; but the committee this appropriation is intended for that? when I asked wby they did not include in the bill a provi ion Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. It is intended to see how best to for $150,000 or any part of it to carry out the obligation of accomplish the purpo e of the bill, which is to relieve the dis the Government under the treaty with the Navajos, referred me tress among them and to civilize them. to the hearings. Well, now, I did not want to be too insistent at Mr. FOWLER. Does the gentleman not think that as much the time. I had not been able to find anything about it in the attention ought to be given to these Indians as is given by the hearings and I feared I ha.d overlooked it and I have gone Government to any other Indians in the United States? through the hearings again and I can not find a single solitary l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. That is exactly what we are en word in the hearings relative to the item to which I have deavoring to do, and that is the object and purpose of the bilL referred. ~Ir. FOWLER. But, in fact, are they not more dependent lUr. FERRIS. Will the gentleman yield? now than many other tribes of Indians because of a lack on the Mr. l\'lO:NDELL. Yes; in just a moment. In regard to the part of the Government in the past in giving them the proper item for fulfilling treaties with the Navajos I can not find any attention and the appropriations necessary for their education thing. If there is anything in the hearings in regard to the and civilization? item I will be glad to read it, buf I have not seen it. !iir. STEPHENS of Texas. I think so. I will state to the Mr. FERRIS. I take it the gentleman is proceeiling in good gentleman that it was only a ye,~r ago that their condition be faith, and the facts are these: The original book of justifica came known, for the reason that the Everglades had theretofore tions, which I hold in my hand, has nothing in relation to these furnished them hunting and fishing grounds and it was not three items. Finally they came up with three supplemental necessary to take care of them. estimates in three separate-- lllr. FOWLER. Is the remainder of the appropriation of Mr. M01\TDELL. They came in time to get in the Book of $10,000 made two years ago anything like adequate ,to care for Estimates. those Inclia.ns at the present time? Mr. FERRIS. They were new provisions providing for new 1\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. It is, because they ha-ve spent projects. The committee, which were perhaps in error, in ac less than $500 of that appropriation. cordance with the judgment of the gentleman, refused to ac Mr. FOWLER. I know that is true, according to the report; cept them. The first item the gentleman refers to has this: but does the gentleman think the department did its duty to The CHAIRMAN. The next item is at the top of page 22, as follows: ward the maintenance, education, and civilization of these In " For the development of a water supply fo~· the Navajo Indians, dians in Florida? $100,000, to be immedin.tely available and to remain available until .Mr. STEPHE.i:~s of Texas. The presumption is that the de· expended, $100,000." This is a new item. It has never been cnrried partment did. The men in the department are officers of the in a bill in any shape that I am familiar with. law. Ur. :MONDELL. If the gentleman will allow me, I find there 1\Ir. FOWLER. That is the presumption, but is it not a very was a little discussion o:f two items, but on the other and more violent one? important item there was no discussion whatever. Now, if the Mr. STEPHEXS of Texas. I can not answer the gentleman's gentleman says that the committee had a general policy under question. which it refused to take into consideration any new matter, why Mr. FOWLER. Mr. Chairman, I am not only in favor of this that is an explanation. It may not be satisfactory, but it is an appropriation, but I would go much further than that and explanation. would extend the helping hand of this Government to these un Mr. FERRIS. That was the new of the committee-that we fortunate people in a much larger sum than this bill proposes should not start in with a lot of new projects. to carry; and I say, Mr. Chairman, with respect to the gentle Mr. :MONDELL. The chairman could have informed the man from Minnesota [Mr. MILLER], that I do not regard them in committee to that effect when I made the inquiry that these any other sense than that they are upon the same footing and items were not considered because it was the thought of the the same basis as the other Indians in this country, and that committee that they should not add any new items to the bill. we owe to them the same duty that we owe to the other Indians Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. That is exactly what I stated, of the country. Mr. Chairman. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. 1\Ir. Chairman, will the gentleman Mr. MONDELI.I. Without consideration of their merits. permit a question? The Clerk read ns follows: Mr. FOWLER. Certainly. For fulfilling treaty stipulations with the Bannocks in l and that act of Congress was peculiarly worded. so, as a matter Mr. l\IAN.t:T. The gentleman is mistaken about that. The of fact, the Indians, instead of paying anything like what the two employees appropriated for here were specifically appro project cost, only paid a small proportion of what the project priated for in the last appropriation bill. .Are there any othe.r co ·t. and thi is a continuation. employees there, and what was the reason for lea>ing out tht! l\Ir. l\IANN. Will the gentleman pardon me? provision? There might be other employees otherwise proYided l\lr. MONDELL. In just a moment. This ought to be re for. I would like to know if there was any special reason imbursable, all the same, because it is for maintenance and oper for it. ation. Now, does the gentleman think that \ye ought to first The Clerk read as follows: build irrigation projects for the Indians and not charge them KA~SAS. for it and then proceed to maintain them for all time to come SEC. 7. For support and education of 750 Indian pupils at the In without charge? Should not the Indian at least be given to un dian school, Haskell Institute, Lawrence, Kans .. and for pay of super intendent, $127,750; for general repairs and improvements, $11,000; derstand that he must exert himself to maintain his enterprise in all, $138,700. after it has been built? We may not secure from the Indian these sums, but he at least ought to understand that he must l\Ir. MANN. l\Ir. Chairman, I move to strike out the last take care of his own property. · word. Is the gentleman able without any difficulty to give us Mr. MANN. As the chairman of the committee does not the expense per pupil at this Haskell school? seem to ha·rn the information at hand, may I giye the gentle Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. You desire the per capita? The man the information? In fact, this is a reimbursable item, and cost per capita is $185. The number of employees is 67, and the under the law now maintenance charges are collected from the enrollment of the school is 768, while the capacity is 750, show 12,000 acres included in the irrigation scheme, but that money ing that it has a few scholars over the capacity. has to be placed in the Treasury and can not be paid out with · l\Ir. l\IA1'!~. The Haskell school is a special school? out an appropriation; and this is merely an appropriation for l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. It is especially appropriated for. maintenance, which is covered by maintenance charges turned l\fr. l\lANN. Yes, I know; but it is not altogether like the into the Treasury. ordinary Indian school? Mr. MONDELL. Is the gentleman certain that this would be Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. It is an industrial school as I reimbursable, without so stating? understand it. I have -risited the Chiloco school, but not the l\Ir. l\lA~TN. I will read the information, which I call to the Haskell school. attention of the chairman of the committee, so that he may l\Ir. l\IANN. What do those Indian scholars do there? haYe it. l\fr. STEPHENS of Texas. As I understand, they take all of l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. I ha•e the information here. the usual branches which they ha•e at other industrial schools, l\fr. l\lANN. In the statement justifying the appropriation such as blacksmithing, making shoes and harness, and doing is this statement-- laundry work, buggy making, and everything of that kind. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I desire to inquire what the gen l\fr. l\IANN. .Are there any receipts from this school which tleman is reading. are turned into the Treasury? Mr. l\fANN. If the gentleman will not interrupt me, I desire l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. The >alue of the products of to read this first : the school last term was $9,116. It Though the 12,000 ac1·es on the ceded strip bear maintenance assess l\Ir. MA1\TN. seems to be like an expensirn school for that ments, the amounts collected have to be turned in to the Public Treas kind of a school. ury and are not available foi· expenditure. It is, therefore, necessary l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Our experience is that tbese in that Congress appropriate for the upkeep and operation of this expensive dustrial schools cost µiore than ordinary schooling, for the system. reason that they ha-re more machinery to purchase and more l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. I will state to the gentleman that expensive appliances to keep up. I a~ked the question of the Indian Commissioner. The CIIAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. l\lr. MANN. I think the gentleman covered it fully in the The Clerk read as follows. hearing. I ha•e no question as to that. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. This is the question I asked: MINXESO'TA. SEC. !). For support and education of 225 Indian pupils at tbe Indian The CHAIRMA...~. That is the same as last year. Does it cost that school. Pipestone, Minn., and for pay of superintendent. $39,175; for much every year to keep up a ditch, and is that going to be perpetual, general repairs and improvements, $4,000 ; in all, $43,17G. to supply the Indians? Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. l\lr. Chairman, I ha>e a com To which l\fr. Connor, the agency engineer, answered as fol mittee amendment to that section which I wi h to offer. lows: The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman from Texas offers a com Mr. Co.'!WR. It will probably be perpetual until the Indians get to mittee amendment, which the Clerk will report. the point of paying for their own maintenance. That is, farming their lands and producing something from them. We are collecting mainte The Clerk read as follows : nance there from the first water users at the rate of $1 per acre every On page 13, line 11, strike out "$4,000" and"insert in lieu thereof year, but we have no authority of law to use that money without fur " $6,700 " : and In line 12 strike out " $43,175 " and insert in lieu ther appropriation. It only amounts to $800 or $1,000 per year at the thereof " $45,875." present state of development. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. l\fr. Chairman, I desire to state, The Clerk read as follows: in connection with that amendment, that the reas6n is this: IOWA. This is a nonreservation school and it has been used as an SEC. 6. For pay of one financial clerk, at $600, and one physician, Indian school for a number of years. This is the reason gi-ren at $480 per nnnum, at the Sac and Fox Agency, Iowa; in all, $1,080. by the department_in a letter recently received: l\lr. MANN. l\Ir. Chairman, I move to strike out the last HOUSE OF REPRESENTATI\ES, Washington, December 19, 1912. word for the purpose of asking a question. In the two items Ilon. SCOTT FERRIS, last read the current law provides for the employment of cer House of Representatii:es. tain clerks in addition to the two employees already provided MY DEAR Mn. FERRIS : The Indian Office says of the Pipestone Indian for. I notice that expression is left out of this appropriation. School: "This school is accessible to a large number of Indian pupils needing Mr. STEPIIENS of Texas. That was carried in the lump school facilities, is well equipped, is doing efficient work, and will be sum appropriation, and it was explained that we already had needed in he present plan of Indian education for a number of years." them appropriated fo!.' before. While it is a nonreservation school, it will be used as an Indian school for a number of years. Hence the reasonableness of requests 1\fr. MANN. Will they still haye authority to employ addi- for necessary improvements. If it were to be abandoned in the near tional clerks? future we might try to get along without improvements. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I think not. Two years ngo $1,500 were appropriated for an electric-lighting plant. The estimate was too small. To complete the work it is necessary Mr. MANN. How was it carried in the lump sum? that $1,200 more be appropriated. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. It was carried in the lump sum, This year the committee allowed $2,000 for a boys' 1avatory annex. but was deducted from it. The amount is not sufficient; $1,500 in addition are required. My amendment is: . Mr. MANN. But this financial clerk at $600 and the physi "Strike out $4,000, . in line 11, page 13, and insert $6,700, $1,200 cian at $400 were carried in the current appropriation bill, thereof for completion of electric-lighting system and $3,500 thereof and there 'vas also provided additional employees already pro for lavatory annex to boys' building; in all, $45,875." Last year the total appropriation was 46,175. So, with the adop vided for by law. Now, is it intended to ha>e no other em ti9n of the amendment, the totnl appropriation will be less than that ployees? of last year. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. We have the same employees as I vi ited the school last fall and went over the premises carefully. With me were citizens of Pipestone who were well informed as to the heretofore, but instead of putting them in the lump-sum appro cost of construction and repairs. I have heard from them since the . priation they put them in specifically. committee reported the bill, and from my own observations and from • 1036 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE .. JANUARY 4, information I obtained uJ')on the ground, I am confident that the amounts I have name.d a.re necessary to complete the things to :be Mr. STEPHE.i,""i'S of Tex:as. This is- the justification given to undertaken. the committee : .· -Of oom·se, th~ school needs a g-ymnasimn, a dairy building, and ma With regard to this propositi-On, it is stated that the Indians now dlinery for the steam laundry. But th~ gymnasium would cost $-6,500, obtain a large part of their employment in the lumber industry. bqt the dairy building at least '4,000, and the machinery for the laundry as the timber becomes scarce more and more dependence in gaining $1,500. tbei.r livelihoods must be placed upon cultivation .of the soil. The 'I shall hope at some future time to have the committee look favor Indian Office plans to employ practical farmers., who are to live among ably upon these items, but now I am simply asking for wh;l.t is abso the Indians and who are to have under their eharge equipment whieh lutely neces ary to complete the work which the committee bas seen may be loaned to the Indians until such .a time as they will l'.ru'm fit to undertake. tracts large enough to justify individual purchases of implements and I have talked with Mr. BURKE and Mr. STEPHE~S concerning the maehinery. matter, and I would be greatly obliged to you if, in my absence, you will offer this amendment and seeure its adoption. Mr. MAN~:r. Does the gentleman kn-0w how much money Very truly, yours, w. s. HAMMOND. these Indians receive each year from the Government as in This seems to haye been a rearrangement, and a letter justify terest on their funds Which are on deposit? ing it comes through the department to the committee, and at a Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I gave the total amount of th~ir committee meeting he1d on last Saturday we agreed to this fund, which is about $4,250,000. amendment. l\Ir. MAJ'..~. That is the total amount on .deposit. Mr. MANN. As I understood the reading of the amendment Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Yes. Mr. MA...'\N. How much is paid each year in the way of by the Clerk, it was to strike out " 6,000" and insert "$4,000." interest? Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. No. It was to insert "1 $6,700" and strike out "$4,000," making an increase of $2,700. Still it Mr. STEPHENS of T€xas. I do not know. Probably the is less than the appropriation carried last year. gentleman from South .Dakota [Mr. BURKE] can state that. He is more familiar with it, :is it is in his section of the The CHAIBMAN. Without objection, the Chair will put the country. two amendments together. The question is on agreeing to the two amendments, respectively. Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I think these Indians have about $4,000,000 on deposit, and I think the intere t is about The amendments were agreed to. 5 per cent, but I am not certain. The CHAIRl\IAN. The Clerk will read. Mr. MILLER. Will the gentleman yield? ... The Clerk read as follows: Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Certainly. The &cretary of the I.nterlor is hereby authorized to withdraw from Mr. MILLER. The amount of the funds of the Minnesota the Treasury of the United States, at his discretion, th~ sum of $165,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary, of the principal sum on deposit Chippewas has not been determined exactly, because the ac to the credit of the hlppewa Indians in the State of Minnesota, aris If the fund amounts to $5,000~000, 5 per cent on it would be l\fr. ~ILLER. As nn inci~ent to this ge~eral propo ition, the $250.'000, and that -ought to be sufficient. If they ha ye been a?thonty o_f Oon?ress ~-ns given ~o the Mille Lac. Band of In satisfied with $165,000 heretofore without i·eceh·ing the interest, · dians to brmg smt ~t the Umted States Govern.ment about and if they now t"ecei"rn the interest on $5,000,000, they ought to four years ago, growrng ~Ir. FOSTER. )Jr. Chairman, I reserve the point of order ayailable for allotment unless we urain the land. This western Qll the amendment. part of this reseryation is bounded by what we call the 11- l\Ir. STEPHE.XS of '.l'exas. l\Ir. Chairman, I yield to the gen towns, which were ceded by this same band in 1004 under an tleman from l\Iinne ota, in who e district this Red Lake Reser act of Congress which I introduced.and which Congre s passed. ,.a tion 'i ituated, to explain the reason for the amendment. That embraced about a quarter of a million acres of similar It is a committee amendment, agreed to by the committee. land. It was to be sold at $4 an acre, or o much more as Mr. STEE~ERSOX. l\fr. Chairman, I would say that I sub it would bring in the market. It was nece sary, in order to · mitted this item to the committee at the request of the Red comply with the treaty with the Indian , to raise a million Lake Indians. They first held a council last June and adopted dollars to pay them for this land-that is, for the 11 to"ns. re olutions and sent them down to me, but they came too late The land was o low and wet that it ould not be sold under to haYe the amendment included in the last year's appropria those conditions, and Congi:es:J refused to appropriate the mil tion bill. They wanted this survey made last summer, but it lion dollars, so we had the dilemma.of bow to dispose of it, an(l came too late and it could not be yery well included in any on my initiative an item was included in the Indian appropria other bill, although it was put in the sundry civil appropriation tion bill for a drainage smTey, first of $10,000 and then of bill in the Senate, but was struck out in conference. They $10,000 and then of $5,000, to ascertain what could be done with again held a council while I was present last November, and this quarter of a million acres adjoining this unceded land, arnl one of the things that they requested is this extension of the the Geological Survey sent out men who made a fine survey, drainage surrey to the diminished resenation; and they haYe and it was done on scientific principles. We then pas ed a law recently held another council and sent a copy of the proceedings allowing that Government land to be as essed for the drainage to me and to the Indian Office, making the same request. Now, improvements under the State law the same as jf it was owned I will explain-- by private persons. The result was that the land was sold at Ur. Sr_i'EPHE.NS of Texas. Will the gentleman read the letter good prices, but instead of realizing the million dollars that the from the department? Indians had agreed to talce for it we realized 1,260,000, and l\lr. STEENERSON. I will do so. The matter was sub we have got land enough to rai ~ e $12,000 more, and that land mitted to the department, and I will read the letter to the chair is now the best land in northern llinnesota. This bas excited man of the Committee on Indian .Affairs from the Secretary of the Indians who own the adjoining land so that they want their the Interior. land drained also, and hence they haye held the e three com·en The letter is as follows : tions, demanding that their lands be drained in order that they DErART:UEXT OF THE IXTERIOR, may have agricultural lands to be allotted to them. ll'ashi11gto11, January 2, 1913. Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Will the gentleman yield? Hon. .ToHx H. STErHENS, Mr. STEENERSON. Certainly. Chairman Committee on I1ulia)i A:ffafrs, IIouse of ReprcsentaUi;cs. l\lr. BURKE of South Dakota. Thi $1,260,000 which was re rn : I understand that the following has been suggested to your com ceiYed for 268,000 acres, did that money go to the Indians-all mittee as an amendment to the Indian appropriation bill now pending: of it? "That the unexpended balance of the appropriation for the comple tion of the drainage survey of ceded Indian lands made by the act of l\lr. STEENERSON. It is in the United States Treasury. April 30, 1908, is hereby reappropriatcd and made available for an ex l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. To the credit of the Indians? tension of the d1·ainage survey, together with an estimate of the cost l\lr. STEENERSON. To the credit of the e Indians. of the project, to cover the Red Lake Diminished Reservation in :Minne- ota, with a view to determining what portions thereof may be profit l\ir. BURKE of South Dakota. Was the $35,000 appropriated ably and economically reclaimed by drainage to make the same suitable for the drainage survey reimbursed or not? for agricultural purposes." l\lr. STEENERSON. I forgot to state that. The money ap The Indian Office desires me to point out that the suggested amend ment would be highly desirable, as it will enable that bureau to cause a propriated for the drainage suney, it was proYided by the act, preliminary urvey to be made with a view to determining the feasibility should be raised by raising the price of the unsold ceded Indian of reclaiming by drainage a considerable quantity of wet, swampy land lands 3 cents an acre. within the diminished reservation, which it is believed can be drained, and when so drained will be highly adaptable for agricultural purpo es. There was a million and a half of ceded land which, if it was Making the unexpended balance of the prior appropriation available raised 3 ~ents an acre, would amount to $45,000. When all for use within the diminished reservation will enal>le this department to that land is sold the United States will be reimbursed by an cause the necessary preliminary surveys to be made without the neces ity of asking an additional appropriation for this particula1· purpo e income of $45,000. Now, they have only expended $30,000, and which the Indian Office advises me it contemplated doing either at the there is a little OYer $4,500 left for no specific purpose. There pre ent or the next session of Congress. is no provision for it. Now, as you W"ill see, this white here I am advised by the Indian Office that the balance of the appropria- tion remaining unexpended is $4,546.21. · · [indicating on map] is the Indian land. That has not been I have the honor to recommend, therefore, that the matter be given ceded. That is still owned in common. This on the west here fayorable consideration by your committee. [indicating] is where there bas been drainage operations and Respectfully, SAMUEL Ao.u1s, where more than 1,000,000 acres haye been reclaimed. First Assista11 t Seai·etary. The CHAIRMAN. The time of_the gentleman from Minne Kow, if the committee will indulge me, I will explain that sota [:Mr. STEENERSON] has expired. the Red Lake Reservation contains about 450,000 acres. There Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. l\Ir. Cbairm·an, I a k unanimous are about 150,000 or 200,000 acres of pine and other timber lands. consent that the gentJeman's time be extended firn minutes. The western part is very good agricultural land providing it The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection? could be drained. There are 1,350 Indians on this reservation, There was no objection. and they are reasonably prosperous and doing Yery well, but Mr. STEENERSON. This land was sold all around here. their agricultural operations are quite limited. They are de- Now, it was proposed to take the unexpended balance and ex irous of extending their agricultural work. They have made tend the survey, which only provided for the ceded lands-this good progress. The e Indians are divided into two factions, colored part of the map-to the unceded part-this white part called the standpatters and progressiyes. The standpatters and that is simply a preliminary step in orde1; to determine are princirially compo ed. of the wcross laker ,'' who are still, whether this land is as suitable for successful drainage as the I believe, heathen. They are conservatives; they do not be land immediately west, or whether this river channel can be liern in allotments in se1eralty. They want all their property sufficiently deepened, and so on; and if it is then determined it held in common, and I admire them for their sturdiness of is a feasible project and is good for the Indians, it is proposed character. The other faction or more adyanced Indians, the to follow it up pursuant to this resolution of the Indians. The progressiyes, so called, are very strongly in favor of allotment. timber land will be sold for the common benefit of all these Now, this Indian reseryation has perhaps two or three hundred 1,300 lndians. mi1Uon feet of standing timber, which is valuable and is not Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Will the unexpended balance ueing cut only where it bas been burned, as there is no author which it is proposed to use accomplish all you state you desire? ity for cutting it. This reservation is owned in common, and 1\fr. STEENERSON. Very nearly. They stated that there no allotments in seYeralty have yet been made. A few of them was $4,500 unexpended. haYe opened farms and ome of them have built yery good Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Will the gentleman point out the houses, but of course there being no allotments in severalty the part of the Indian land that has bad this survey made? man who makes the fine t farm and best house is liable to have Mr. STEENERSON. All this in green and colored is the his house tnkeu away or his land divided up with somebody former Red Lake Indian ReserYation, and is ceded land, and the when the allotments are finally made. For that reason the piece in white is un~edecl. great question there is the allotment questjon. There is not l\lr. STEPHEKS of Tens. Is that unallotted and hel 1913. CO ;rGRESSIO "r AL RECORD-HOUSE. il039 ' !Ur. STEE&ERS~. It f un::Uootted and fs hetd bye these Mr. STEEj~nm· ON. :r will explrun file connection. Thirty 1,3UO Indians. J1 want to take' the money tlurt was· raised by· in- thousand dollars already hµ.s been expended to facilifate the· crea- ing the price of these unsold fand·s and stlrvey the lndluu sllJ.e ~f tli:ese other lands, ·and they- fat"(Je been S()ld, and file lands because that land belongs t-0 tile Indians, it ft belongs- fo Chippewas of the State of Minnesota got their money sooner anybody, ana it wm give us th~ fust step towardl what we de- than they otherwi.Se womd' have gotten it; that is, 30,000. · siL-e. The G-0-vernmellt- in selling the land simply acted. as trosi. Eventmrn there will be $45,000, and mere will be $10,000 that tee for· ille Indians. . could be used for some other branch of the Chippewa Indians. lUr. STEJ?HE.:. TS· of Texas. I uuclerstood the gentleman to sny Mr. MANN. But the Red Lake Indians do not own it. ; that it was reimbursable under the original act, and the Indians l\Ir. STEENERSON. It is their share of it from other Ittnds. def:ir it to· be done. l\Ir. MANN. Their lunds have been sold, and the fact that Mr. STEE~RSON. They are unanimous on. that point. I they claint it does not make it theirs. had a eouncil with them before I came, and even the stan\'1.- ~Ir. STEENERSON. There are no other Inc!ians who·claimit. patters, who were not in favor of the allotment in severalty,, Mr. MANN. I see no reason, bec::mse :r funcl has been created: .wanted it settled so as to know whether· it couldt be- put m shape by the sale of certain fndian fandSi anct is in the Treasury, or not. why that fund should be· expended for the benefit of other l\IF. MAN ... 'r. Was aJl of tlliS' iIL posse sion of the original Indians, simpfy because they want it. 1,300 Indians? Mr. STBENERSO.... Well, if the fun:d was derived in pa.rt Mr. STEENERS-Ohr. No. Before 1859- it din not belong to from a sale of their prapert~ they are entitled to a share in any specific tribe that anybody k"11ew of,, md'. hence under tl1e the property. N Ison Act,. th~ act of 18 9', it was- tin:own into a common pot, so Mr. MANN~ How much propeTty' did these Red Lake Indians to speak, and· the land thro-ughout all this couatcy wa sold:. for have-lands which ha-ve been sold and' which contributed 3 the benefit of the whore Chippewa Nation ot Minnesota:. cents an acre to· this fund:? l\I'r. MA...~. And not fol" the Red Lake Indians.? Mr. STEENERSON. They chrim&l to ha'\"e the whole of that Mr. 8r.rEE,,. ~ERSON . No. land. l\fr. l\fANN. Then, what interest have the Red Lake Indians l\Ir. l\IANN. They do not claim it now, because tha.t was a illl this fmld 1 claim that was not admitted by the Government and' 1las not · l\Ir. STEE~RSON. I will explain tli.at. After the act of been carried out by the treaty. 18 9 passed, the divided Red Lake R1ver Reservation extended Mr. STEENERSON. Even the Government said that the Red down to the Thief River Falls, amt these 200;000 acres were,, by Lake Indians hacf contributed more- than theIT share to the com .the treaty of 1904 ceded to• the lJnited States tmde.i: an ag1~ee- . mon fund when they had. contributed these 3,000,000 ~cres un ment made by an Indian inspector,. Maj:. McLaughlin~ whereby der the act of 1889. The report of· the Secretary of the Interi01: the Indians ceded the· land to the United States in consideration so stated, and President Harrison so stated. in his. message to of $1,000,000, in: consideration of the fact th:at thereafter the Congress. Red Lake .Reservation should belong to the Red Lake Reserva- Mr. MA.i.~N. Did the gentleman ever introduce a bill on this tion as a separate treaty. And in that treaty the remnant that subject? .was occupied by these Indians should be a separate property. l\lr. STEENERSON. We have a bill now in course of prep. Mr. l\fA...~. I think not. When this original' survey wa.s aration, but this would give an. e~amination sooner than that. authorized and an appropriation wa:s- made tirat money was- to The CHAIRUAN. The time of the gentleman has expired. be raised by adding 3 cents an acre to the land that wrrs. yet Mr. l\!A.."NN. l\Ir. Chauman, it seems to me that a matter ol unsold, as. r remelllber: this sort, which, of comse, is perfectly. ,intelligible to the gentle- ~i~: ~~~~~N'~J~at land! that wus yet unsold all the man in charge, can not very well be understood by other Mem bers on the floor without some opportunitr to examine it. It property of these Red Lake Indians? seems to me that the gentleman. ought to have had a. bill fntro- ~i~: ~~~~r-jan~o~as sold, and the amount that was duced and reported.. to the House by the cotnmittee if such a ::tccumulated therefrom wa.s used largely for making a survey condition existed, so that Members mfght have an opportunity; for .the drainage of the land that wa.s sold and the land that to examine it. Then there might be no objection to including. it. was a.Ifotte'd? But to otier an amendment on the floo:c of the House in a mat- Mr. STEE~""ERSON. Yes. ter of this sor4. which in. itself does not amount to very mucl4 Mr. l\MNN. There wa:s some l.uud unallotted, was thei·e not? but whfch goes faJ.r as a matter of principle when you take into Mr. STEENERSON. Unallotted? considera.tiou that we may be entering u:non the drainage of all Mr. l\I.&NN. Yes~ una.Ilotted. 'l?here· is SE)Ill.e'" land there now tlie Indian and other swamp Iand.s in the United States, I do not unallotted, is there not! think even the committee ought to ask to have it inserted in l\Ir. STEENERSON.. No. I d .Mr. :MANN. Did that apply to anything except lands :which Mr. 1\1.A.i..~N . l\Ir. Chairman, I wish the gentleman from Texas were sold? would ask to let this go over until Monday so that we will have lUr. :\lILLER. It did not. It was not necessary that it a chance to see what the proposition is, and then we can pre hould. pare the necessary amendment. .l\Ir. STEENERSON. It applied to the unsold lands also. l\Ir. FERRIS. - If the gentleman asks that it be passed on l\lr. l\IILLER. It applied to the unsold lands that were to the theory that there might not be anything to reimburse from, be sold. I want to say that they ha\e $5G2,550 cash on hand belonging l\Ir. .MANN. I mean lauds that were sold anc.1 that were to to this particular band, so that there would be no doubt about be sold. the reimbursability of it. l\Ir. MILLER. It applied to those lands that were to be sold l\Ir. l\IANN. I haye no doubt about that; the land is good· ::md which were sold, and that gave the Go\ernment $45,000. for reimbursement. · Mr.· MANN. They sold the land for that much more. The l\Ir. STEENERSON. They haye the money, and they want Indians did not ha\e to pay it. it used. Mr. MILLER. They sold the land for that much more than l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. 1\lr. Chairman, I had hoped to the Go\ernment agreed to pay the Indians. proceed for a half an hour longer. l\lr. MANN. So that it was not paid by the Indians? l\lr. MANN. I understood that the gentleman at 5 o'clock . Mr. MILLER. The land was sold by the United States, and was going to move that the committee rise. it belonged to the United States, because it had been ceded by l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I thought that we mjght finish the Indians to the United States. The Government of the up these proYisions with relation to l\lontana. 1Jnited States has expended in that suney $30,000 and has re l\Ir. ~1A.1'."'N . I haye no objection to running a little while cei\ed. back $45,000 and has actually gained $15,000. Now, ·that longer. Do I understand that this item is passed by unanimous profit-if we can speak of it as such-was derivec.1 from the consent with the point of ordei· pending? property of this particular band of Indians. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous · Mr. MANN. This particular band of Indians did not own the consent that this item be passed with the point of order pend- property, by the way. ing. . Mr. .MILLER. The Chippewas of Minnesota owned it. The CHAIRMAN. Without objection, the request of the gen- Mr. MANN. But, assuming for the sake of the argument that tleman from Texas will be considered as agreed to. they did own it, the Goyernment made a treaty with them in There was no objection. which it agreed to pay them so much for the land. The Clerk read as follows : l\lr. MILLER Precisely. For continuing the constrnction of il'l'igation systems to irrigat.e Mr. MANN. Thereupon the GoYernment sold the land for a the allotted lands of the Indians of the Flathead Reservation, in . little more. Montana, and. the unallotted irrigable lands to be disposed of under Mr. MILLER. Yes. authority of law, including the necessary surveys, pl.ans, and estimates, 150,000, reimbursable in accordance with the provisions of the act 1\lr.' MANN. Is the Government under any obligation to turn of April 4, HllO. _ oyer the excess to the Indians? 1\lr. MILLER. I think not. I do not maintain that it is. Ur. PRAY. :llr. Chairman, I offer the following amendment. Mr. l\IANN. That is what this amounts to. The Clerk read as follows: Mr. MILLER. Not necessarily. The Government came out On page 14, line 25, strike out the figures $150,000 and insert winner in the transaction, as it always has in transactions of $250,000. this sort. l\1r. STEPHENS of Texas. l\lr. Chairman, to that I make Mr. l\IANN. No; the Government usually comes out loser; a point of order. and it took the chance of losing in this transaction, and it has l\Ir. PRAY. l\fr. Chairman, I do not think the amendment is not :ret come out a winner, because it has not sold all the land. subject to a point of order. Mr. MILLER. I beg the gentleman's pardon. In Minnesota l\Ir. STEPH,ENS of Texas. I hope that the amendment will the GoYernment has come out a very big winner in every trans not be adopted. action with the Indians. l\lr. PRAY. 1\fr. Chairman, I do not intend to occupy the l\.Ir. ::UA.NN. On the contrary, in Minilesota ill many cases the time of the committee at this late hour in the afternoon to any Goye1·nment has come out a loser, and may come out a loser great extent. But I sincerely hope that this amendment may be on these lands. which have not yet been finally disposed of. adopted, because I believe it is a meritorious and necessary Mr. MILLER What I am trying to show to the gentleman amendment; that the appropriation not . only ought to be in ls-and I know that at first glance it requires a moment's creased to $250,000 but to $450,000, in accordance with the e ti reflection-that it would be only just to giye these Indians mates and recommendations of the supervising engineer of the an opportunity to haye their lands suneyed when the cost is so Flathead irrigation project and· in accordance with the -sug small. gestions of the Director of the Reclamation SerYice. 1\Ir. l\L\.:NN. Yes; but the lands which they are proposing to It is intended when this project is completed to irrigate about suryey are valuable lands. Why should not they contribute 150,000 acres of land on this reservation. It will cost $3,781,000 toward paying for the suneys on their land? They have not to complete the project At the rate the appropriations are now contributed anything :ret. Other lands_where the Government being made, it will be in all probability many years before the a.greed to pay the Indians for it-it may be in some cases more project is finished. 1\Iany of the people who are now residing than they were worth-have paid 3 cents an acre. These In upon this reservation, waiting patiently for water to be turned dians haye not paid anything and the lands have not paid any into the ditches, which they claim the Government had prom thing. Why should not they pay in t:I:w case of the surveys of ised, will be dead and gone when the project is completed. their own. iand for drainage purposes? I haye received a number of protests from people residing in Mr. STEENERSON. 1\Ir. Chairman, I am unwilling that any that section of the State against the~e unusual and, as they wrong impression should go out as to a matter of fact. My allege, unnecessary delays. Therefore I consider it my duty last advice was to the effect that the whole $45,000 had not all to bring this matter to the attention of the committee, and nsk been paid into the Treasury. I think that the unsold lands them, if they will, to appropriate the sum of money recom wlien they are sold will realize $45,000, but that has not been mended by the Director of the Ileclnmation Sen-ice, who is in done as yet. charge of this construction work, so that the people who are .Mr. MILLER. How much has been reimbursed? now living upon the reseryation may deriye some benefit from ::\Ir. STEE?>.'ERSON. I do not know; they say it was pretty this project before they are summoned to another world. fa t last year, and I think it comes to quite a hlgh figure. M1'. STEPHENS of Texas. Is it not a fact that the people l\lr. .l\IA.NN. The gentleman does not know whether the Gov insisting on that are mainly white persons? ernment will ever sell the land for the amount it agreed to l\Ir. PRAY. There are some 1,500 settlers who are now occu pay the Indians. It has not been able to sell it yet for that pying the surplus lands, and they ha \·e n. perfect right, in ruy amount. · judgment, to insist upon the completion of tlie iwoject. Mr. STEENERSON. I want to say further that in Yiew of Mr. MANN. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield? the very fine distinction made by the gentleman between the Mr. PRAY. Certainly. Red Lake Chipvewns and the Chippewas of Minnesota, many of l\Ir. MANN. How much are the e combined irrigation Sys whom I haYe the honor to represent, to avoid any technicality tems to cost? whateyer I am willing to have the appropriation amended so as :'.Ir. PR\.Y. There is only one system, I will say to the gentle to make it reimbursable out of the Red Lake fund. man, on the Flathead project. It is composetl of 11\·e units. 1913. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 104f Mr. MANN. I am taking the language of the law, which calls The reclamation officials asked the Committee on Indian 1t " systems." Affairs to appropriate $450,000 for the coming season, and have Mr. PRAY. I accept the gentleman's correction. The amount received, as this bill will show, $150,000 instead. The other is estimated at $3,781,000. appropriations are cut proportionately. If the present policy Mr. MANN. How much money has been expended upon it up is continued, it will probably be about 30 years before the to date? _ Flathead project is finally completed. In the meanwhile there Mr. PRAY. I think about $500,000. are 1,500 homesteaders on this reservation marking time, un Mr. MANN. Is that utilizable at all? able to cultivate their lands profitably because of lack of water Mr. PRAY. In what respect? for irrigation during the season when water is most needed. l\fr. MANN: Is there anything there that can be used in the The Indi8.Il appropriation bill at the last session carried an way of irrigation now? item of $200,000 for this project, but the engineers found when 1\fr. PRAY. Oh, yes; to some extent. Some of the units are they called for money to proceed with the work that they conlil partially completed. One unit, I believe, is 85 per cent com expend economically only about $90,000 of the amount thus pleted. appropriated, because of the conditions imposed requiring the Mr. M.ANN. Is there ·any land being irrigated there at the entire sum to be used in work on but two units of the project. present time? For the purposes of administration and economical management, Mr. PRAY. Some land; yes. the Reclamation Service has divided the project into several Mr. MANN. I notice that the director asked for $250,000. units, and the work of construction is carried on according to Mr. PRAY. The Commissioner of Indian Affairs, I believe, plans adopted by the engineers far in advance of construction. asked ·for $250,000, but the director and supervising engineer One of the units upon which the appropriation was required to estimated for $450,000. Right in that connection I will say. to be spent was nearly completed, and it was not found to be the gentleman that a year ago $200,000 was appropriated, but practicable, in the judgment of the officials in charge, to do the expenditure of that appropriation was limited to two proj more than a small amount of work on the other unit at that ects, and it was considered practically inadvisable to expend it particular time. So, as a matter of fact, the greater part of the on those two projects. In fact, it could not be done economi season was wasted and they were unable to use $110,000 of the cally· at any rate, it was so stated by the engineer .on the appropriation. If an abandonment of the remaining units of project, when I visited there last fall. these projects is contemplated by our friends who now control Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Will the gentleman yield? the House, a most excellent beginning has been made. Mr. PRAY. Certainly.· It is my understanding that the co·mmittee has been Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I presume the project to wh!ch thoroughly acquainted with the needs of the different projects the gentleman refers is the Jocko division, 84 per cent of which by the Government officials in charge of the work; that they has been completed, and the other project is the Pablo division, have presented to the committee from time to time complete in of which 42 per cent has been completed. Ar·e not these two formation relating to the plans of construction and appropria items the units which the committee desires to finish before go tions required, but that the response has been unfavorable to ing ahead with any other? an expeditious and economical completion of the projects. Mr. PRAY. Yes. What sort of business judgment and foresight is it to turn Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Is not that the reason that the down the estimates of the department calling for an appro committee refused the larger appropriations? priation of $450,000 and allow $150,000 for a year's work on a Mr. PRAY. That is exactly what I am trying to bring to the project which, when finished will cost $3,781,000, when all of attention of the chairman of the committee. A year ago in the these appropriations can be economically used and are reim Indian appropriation bill you appropriated $200,000 for this bursable? The answer to this query would probably be that it project, but so limited the use of that appropriation ~to make is not good business to appropriate large sums of money out it practically useless. of the Treasury without knowing when and in what manner it Mr. .MONDELL. Mr. Chairman, will the gentleman yield is going to be returned. The fact is. that we ha>e now ex for a question? pended, or had at the close of the fiscal year June 30, 1912, Mr. PRAY. Yes. $490,000 on the Flathead project and that $390,000 of that Mr. MONDELL. The gentleman is familiar with the con amount has already been reimbursed to the UnHed States and ditions upon that reservation. Is it not true that the making of paid into the Treasury. The reports show that the timber alone these small appropriations increases the cost of the construction on this reservation is worth several hundred thousand dollars because of the fact that only small units can be constructed at more than the entire cost of the project, and thn t is not taking one time and it is impossible to let the contracts in the most into account at all tbe increased value of the land from $75 economical manner? to $150 per acre. If we are going to irrigate 200,000 acres of Mr. PRAY. That is quite true. land which, when water is furnished, will be worth $20,000,000, Mr. MONDELL. And that the delay in making large appro it seems to me that the Government is not entering upon a priations now kaeps the Government and the Indians out of the speculative or hazardous enterprise in any sense, but is pro I use of the lands for the reclamation of which large sums have ceeding along conservative lines in the furtherance of a policy J already been appropriated? ~ t enacted by Congress and favorcsl by two different administra \ Mr. PRAY. Yes; it does. tions. ) Mr. MONDELL. So that in the interest of economy and in the interest of the early utilization of the land now partly irri These great projects have been under way for three years. gated and for the irrigation of which large sums have been ex The opening of these reservations was given wide publicity, pended we need a very much larger amount than this? likewise the fact that the Government proposed to reclaim large Mr. PRAY. The Director of the Reclamation Service and areas by construction of irrigation works. Thousands of set other officials have stated repeatedly that it necessarily in tlers took up land and established their homes upon these res creases the cost of the project where inadequate sums are ap ervations, oelieving in the responsibility and good faith of the propriated from time to time. Let me go into the subject a little Government and-that it would really accomplish what it ap more fully. parently was making every preparation to undertake when they went upon these lands. Three great irrigation projects are now and have been for some time under construction on Indian reservations in Mon These .projects present no specially difficult engineering tana. These projects are being built by the United States Recla problems. The plans have all been perfected by the reclama mation Service for the Indian Office. If they should ever be tion officials, and the men and equipment are on the ground and completed, they would irrigate thousands of acres of fertile all is in readiness to proceed with all possible expedition. But lands on the Flathead, Blackfeet, and Fort Peck Indian Reserva the money has been withheld or else offered in small driblets, tions. With the mea~er appropriations that are now being and every season of delay caused by inadequate appropriations made by Congress for this important work it will be many years will undoubtedly greatly increase the present estimate of cost before the projects will be finished. People who are now occupy on all these projects. ing these lands, relying upon the implied promise of their Gov Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Newell, engi ernment to furnish the water, will be old and decrepit or else neer in charge of this work, states: in their graves before that promise is fulfilled, unless a differ There appeared to be, at the time of the last hearing, 2,265 Flathead ent course is pursued in making appropriations. Take the Indians. · '.rhe land to be irrigated comprises 150,000 acres, at an esti mated cost of $3,781,000, the cost per acre being $30. There was ex Flathead project, which we have been considering, for example, pended to July 1;. 1911, $490,019.44. We appropriated fo1· the fiscal that being the largest and most expensive one undertaken. year ended June iiO, 1912, $400,000, and in the last appropriation bill, XLIX-66 fl042 CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE, JANUARY 4, • for the fiscal year ending June 30, 1913, we appropriated $200,000. Now, they arc asking for the next fiscal year an appropriation of ures $48,015.07. Do I understand that is the amount appropri- $200,050. ated by this item? · l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. That is the amount authorized by Ur. PRAY. Will the gentleman yield? the department. · l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I desire to finish reading this, as Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. That is the amount of the it gives a succinct statement of .the whole matter. Northern Cheyenne Indians in the permanent fund? l\Ir. PRAY. I think the gentleman made a mistake in the l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. That is right and they have figures. asked this amount be given for the purpo~e stated in the l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas (reading) : amendment. . The former hearings disclosed the fact that these Indians have lands l\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. I call the Chairman's atten and timber conservatively e timated to be worth about $5,000,000 ; . and $370,000 of the moneys expended on thls project had been actually tion again to the fact that the language is very ambiguous and reimbursed in the Treasury at the time of the hearings a year ago. it is doubtful whether it appropriates it. It seems to me it has · There appears to be five units in conn~ction with this IJroject, and wh~n no connection with it. the hearings were held last year the Jocko unit, I thirik, was said to be 81.5 per cent completed, the l\1lssion unit was 9.6 per cent completed; Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. That is in accordance with tb.e the Pablo unit was 28.7 per cent completed; the Polson unit was 9.8 letter they ha. ve forwarded. per cent completed; and the Post unit was 31 per cent completed. l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. That does not help it. • • • • • • • Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. What amendment does the gen Now, the present condition of the work, as shown by the last copy of the Reclamation Record for November, 1912, is as follows : The tleman suggest? Jocko division is 84 per cent completed; the Mission division is 11.6 Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I am not certain it requires per cent completed; the Pablo division is 42.5 per cent completed; the any. Polson division is 9.9 per cent completed ; and the Post division iB 35.8 per cent completed. But here is an authorization: That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized. in bis dis We desired that the Jocko unit should be completed, so that cretion, to withdraw from the Treasury the entire share of the North water could be furnished to parties underneath those ditches, ern Cheyenne Indians in the permanent fund- and also the Pablo divi ion 42 per cent, nearly half of that was And so for-th. ~ornpleted. That is the reason we cut the appropriation to what And to expend it for the benefit of the said Northern Cheyenne it is. Indians in the purchase of stock cattle or such articles as in his judg· ment will best advance said Indians in civilization and self-support. l\fr. PRAY. Is not the recommendation $250,000 instead of $48,075.07. . • $200,050? l\fr. STEPHENS of Texas. Yes. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. This follows the law already. l\fr. PRAY. And is it not further the fact that the officials That is the unexpended balance. stated that last years appropriation of money could not be Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. How do we know it is the economically expended because of the limitations imposed upon unexpende~ balance? its use? Mr. STEPHE...~S of Texas. That is what they state in the l\1r. STEPHENS of Texas. Oh, certainly; they wanted the letter. full amount they asked for, but we did not think it proper to Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. 'Then, in line 13, after the give it to them before they completed these two units now so comma, should it not state "which amount is $48,075.07, and nearly completed. I ask for a vote. the Secretary of the Interior is authorized to expend it"? The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman made a point of order. I am simply calling the attention of the committee to the way Does the gentleman desire a ruling on that? in the paragraph the $48,000 is appropriated. l\lr. STEPHENS of Texas. I withdraw the point of order Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I think the first part of the sen and ask for a vote. tence ma.kej that clear, namely : T.bat the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized. in hls dis· The question was taken. and the amendment was rejected. cretion, to withdraw from the Treasury the entire share- The Clerk read as follows : In a certain event. That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized, in his dis- l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. Suppose the entire share hap- cretlon, to withdl·a.w from the Treasury the entire share of the North- ern Cheyenne Indians in the permanent fund created under section 17 pened to be $58,000? of the act of Congress approved March 2, 1889 (U. S. Stat. L., vol. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. These are their figures, and they 25, p. 888), and to expend it for the benefit of said Northern Cheyenne k b k h Indians in the purchase of stock cattle or such articles as in his judg- ·eep oo s t ere. ment will best advance said Indians in civilization and self-support, Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I would like to call the gen- $48,075.07. tleman's attention to the fact that this item does not state that l\Ir. PRAY. l\fr. Chairman, I offer the following amendment. this is the balance. It stands as ·$48,000 and odd in figures. The CHAIRMAN. 'Ihe Clerk will report the amendment. l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. That is the appropriation. The Clerk read as follows: l\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. It does not so state. It does Aft th fi · lin 16 not appropriate 48,000. follow%g: e gures m e ' page 16• insert as a new paragraph the l\'Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. What amendment would the gen- " The sum of $75,000, or so much thereof as may be necessary, tleman suggest? $25,000 of which shall become immediately available, is hereby appro- 1'f BURKE f S th D k t I d t th• k th <1!48,000 priated, out of any funds in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, .u r. 0 OU a O a. O no rn ~ e 'J7"Z ' as for the purpose of surveying the land within the Tongue River or it stands at present-' - Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation, Mont., for completing the sur- Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Has the gentleman noticed the vey of the lands within the Fort Belknap Indian Reservation, Mont., first larnmage in line 7, namely: and for making a meander survey around the Flathead Lake so as to ~ identify the lands embraced within the power-site withdrawal of 100 That the Secretary of the Interior is hereby anthorized, in his dis• llnea.i· feet around that lake back fl·om the high-water mark for the cretion, to withdraw from the Treasury- year 1909." And so forth? l\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I desire to make a l\Ir. BURKE of South Dakota. He bas authority to with- point of order against the amendment offered by the gentleman. draw it if it is $48,000 or if it is $148,000? · I think it is clearly subject to a point of order, as it is new Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. It says that it is for the benefit legislation. of the Shawnee Indians. Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Pending that 1 want to in- Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. What have the figures $48,000 quire in regard to the paragraph from lines 7 to 16. The there to do? amendment of the gentleman from Montana is a new para- Mr. STEPHE....~S of Texas. I have no objection to their going graph. I want to make inquiry in regard to the paragraph be- out. ginning at line 7 and ending in line 16. I call the attention of l\fr. BURKE of South Dakota. I do not think they ought to the chairman to the fact that at the end of line 16 is the sum be there in that form. of $48,075.07. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. If you will make a motiorr-- 1\Ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I understand this amendment to Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I am not croing to make a .be offered as a new paragraph and has no connection with this. motion, but I think it is inadvertently inserted in that way, It does not propose to touch the total. and I think it ought to go out, or to make it so that it is under Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. His amendment has no r efe1·- stood that we can not expend more than $48,075.07. Suppose ence to this paragraph at all. the share of the Cheyenne Indians is $14 ,00 • would that limit Mr. STEPHE.NS of Texas. I understand. the Secretary of the Treasury from drawing from the Treasury Mr. BURKE of South· Dakota. I call the attention of the $148,000? Chairman again to line 16. At the end of the line are the fig- I Mr. STEPHE:NS of Texas. I think that is merely directory. f913. DONGRESSION AL nECORD-=.-:nousE ... rf(f43 Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. I think so. Mr. STEPifENS of Texas. I wi1l reserve temporarily the M-r. STEPHENS of Texas. I think: so. It directs him to take point of order. The gentleman can conclude on Monday. Mr. out whatever balance there is there. Chairman, I move that the- committee do now rise. Mr. FERRIS. :Will the gentleman yield just a moment? The motion was agreed to. Mr. BURKE or South Dakota.. Certainly. Accordingly the committee rose; and the- Speaker having re Mr. FERRIS. I am rather inclined to think the gentleman's sumed the chair, Mr. SAUNDERS, Chairman of the Committee suggestion is a good one. If you will tum over to page 19, lines of the Whole House on th-estate of the Union, reported that that· 18 to 24, you will find there the following language used to committee had had under consideration the bill (H. R. 26874}' :withdraw trust funds: making appropriations for the current and contingent expenses Secretary of_ the Interior is hereby authorized to. withdraw from the. of the Bureau of Indian Affairs, for fulfilling treaty stipulations Treasury of the United States at his discretion tlie sum o:t $25,000. with various Indian tribes, and for other purposes, for the fiscal This language has always answered the purpose; all right. year ending June 30, 1914,. and had come to no resolution The specific amount withdrawn is stated in the body of the thereon. paragraph-and I wonder if it might not help the language by ENROLLED BILLS PRESENTED TO THE PRESIDENT FOR HIS APPROVAL. inserting., after the word "Treasury," page 16, line 8, the words Mr. ORAYENS, from the Committee on Enrolled Bills, re ''the sum of $48,075.07, which is the share of the Northern ported that this day they had presented to the President of the Cheyenne Illdians " ? United States, for his approval, the following bills: Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. The gentleman will see that H. R. 10169. To provide for holding the district comt of the if you made a period where the comma apears, after the word United States for Porto Rico during the absence from the island " support," in line 16, that the sentence would be complete, and of the United States district judge and for the trial of cases the $48,075.07 would not mean anything. in the event of the disqualification of or inability to act by the Mt'. l\fANN. Is the gentleman sure that it would not be con said judge; and tended as meaning something? I think the suggestion made by H. R. 10648. Amending an act entitled '"An act to authorize the gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. BURKE] as to the form the registration of trade-marks used in commerce with foreign is quite qpt, but this being a trust fund I do not suppose that nations or among the several States or with the Tndian tribes we make an appropriation. and to protect the same." l\fr. FERitIS. Simply withdraw it. ADJOURNMENT. l\Ir. MANN. We simply withdraw it, and where the act says, Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Speakerr I moye that the "the entire share of the Northern Cheyenne Indians, which House do now adjourn. .was $48,075.07," I apprehend the· department would not allow The motion was agreed to; accordingly (at 5 o'clock and 25 them to withdraw more: than the $48,075.07. I at first thought minutes p. m.) the House adjourned until Monday, January 6, that this being an..item that does- draw interest, there might be 1913, at 12 o'clock noon. no way of ascertaining the exact amount that was in the Treas ury at the date at which it was to oe withdrawn, but, as I EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. understand now, the interest is payable without the. action of Congress at all, and the department has certified that there Under. clause 2 of Rule XXIV, executive communications were remains this amount, $48,075~ 07. taken from the Speaker's table and referred as follows : Without taking time to strike·out that 7 cents, I would like 1. A letter from. the Secre~ry of War, transmitting, with a to. suggest to the gentleman from Texas· [Mr. STEPHENS] that letter. from the Chief of Engfneers, report of exa:mination and it is now 7 minutes of half past 5. survey of Duwamish River, Wash. (H. Doc. No~ 1219); to the Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I would like to have this item Committee on Rivers and Harbors and ordered to be printed. settled. 2. A lette1~ from the Secretary of War, transmitting, with a l\fr. MANN. This item is settled. letter from the. Chief of Engineers, report of examination and l\Ir. FERRIS. There is a point of order pending. survey of West Fork, South Branch Chicago River, ill.,. from Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. Yes; a point of order- is pending. Robey Street west to Forty-eighth Avenue (H. Doc. No. 1220); · l\1r. FERRIS. But to another· section. to the Committee 011 Rivers and Harbors and ordered to be The CHAIBMAN. There is no point of order pending to printed. this section. The point of order that was made does· not relate 3. A letter from. the Secretary of War, transmitting, with a to this-section. letter from the Chief of Engineers, reports on examination and Mr. BURKE of South Dakota. Mr. Chairman, I wish to survey of Mississippi River between Winnibigoshish and Poke offer an amendment On line 13, page 16, after.- the paren gama reservoirs ; and from Leech Lake Dam to the mouth of thesis, insert the words "which amount is $48,075.07." And Leech River, Minn... with a view to straightening and improving then strike out the. figures iu line 16, after the words "self the channel (H. Doc. No. 1223); to the Committee 011 Rivers support." and Harbors and ordered to be printed, with illustrations. l\fr. STEPHENS of Texas. Mr. Chairman, I accept th-e 4:. A. letter from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting amendment. copy of a communicati.on from the Secretary of the Interior, The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will report the amendrnent submitting an urgent deficiency estimate of appropriation for offered by the gentleman from South Dakota:. improvement of electric-light plant, Department of the Interior The Clerk read as follows: (H. Doc. No. 1221) ; to the Committee on Appropriations and ordered to be printed. Amend, page 16, line 13, by inserting, after the parenthesis, " $48,075.07 " and striking out, on line 16, after the words " self 5. A letter from the Secretary of State, transmitting, pursuant support," the figures "$48,075.07." to law, an authentic copy of the certificate of final ascertainment The CHAIRMAN. The question is on agreeing to the amend of electors for President and Vice President appointed in the ment offered by the gentleman from South Dakota [Mr. BURKE]. State of Utah at the election held therein on November 5, 1912; The- amendment was agreed to. to. the Committee on. Election of President, Vice President, and Representatives in Congress. Mr. STEPHENS of Texas, Mr. Chairman, I ask for a ruling ou the point of order suggested by the. gentleman ·from Mon 6. A letter: from the Secretary of State, transmitting, pursuant tana [Mr. PRAY]. to law, an authentie copy of the certificate of final ascertainment of electors for President and Vice President appointed in the M'r. PRAY. Mr. Chairman, would it not be possible for the Stnte of Texas at the election held therein on November 5, 1912; committee to rise now illld leave this- matter- pending! to the Committee on Election. of President, Vice President, and Mr. STEPHENS of Texas. I would like to have a ruling Repr.esentatives in. Congress. now. I think it is perfectly clear, .M:r. Chai"i:man, that it is 7. A letter from the Secretary of State, transmitting, pur~ new legislation. It provides for a survey. and it is certa.inly suunt to law, an authentic copy of the certificate of final ascer· new legislation. tainment of electors· for President and' Vice President appointed l\Ir. PRAY. Would not the gentleman agree to rfse now? I in the State of Michigan at an election held therein November desire to discuss the amendment bTiefl'y later. 5, 1912 ,. to the Committee on Election of President, Vice Presi· l\ir. STEPHENS of Texas. I will yield to the- gentleman to dent, and Representatives in Congress. make such ooservutions as- he pleases now. It is six minutes 8. .A letter-from the Doorkeeper· of the House of Representa until. half-past 5: tives, transmitting- an. inventory of all praperty in 1lis charge- l\Ir. PRAY. I hope the gentleman from Texas· will consent to. belonging to the United States (H. Due. No. 1222); to the Com allow it to go over. mittee on Accounts and ordered to be printed. 1044- OONGRESSIONAL RECORD-· HOUSE·.... JANU.ARY · 4,- REPORTS OF COl\IMITTEES. By Mr. CAMPBELL: .A. bill (H. R. 27675) granting a pension Under clause 2 of Rule XIII, to Faithie P. Nolan; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Mr. G~I, from the Committee on Expenditures in the Also, a bill ( H. R. 27676) granting an increase of pension to Interior Department, submitted a report (No. 1279) '. toge~her Sarah Frye; to the Committee on Inyalid Pensions. with the views of the minority, on the matter of the m-vestiga By Mr. . CANNON: .A. bill (H. R. 27677) granting an increase tion of the Indian Bureau, with transcript of testimony taken of pension to August Fink; to the Committee on Invalid Pen and exhibits offered from April 9, 1912, to August 17, 1912, . sions. which ·said report was referred to the House Calendar. .A.lso, a bill (H. R: 27678) for the relief of John McElhiney; to the Committee on Military Affairs. PUBLIC BILLR, RESOLUTIONS, AND MEMORIALS. By Mr. COX of Indiana: A bill iH. R. 27679) granting an increase of pension to James F. Hubbard; to the Committee Under clause 3 of Rule XXII, bills, resolutions, and me on Invalid Pensions. morials were introduced and severalJy referred, as follows: By .Mr. CRUMPACKER: A bill (H. R. 27680) granting an in By' Mr. JOHNSON of Kentucky (by request of the Commis crease of pension to Elizabeth Hoon; to the Committee on In sioners of the District of Columbia) : .A. bill (H. R. 27657) to valid Pensions. authorize the opening of a minor street from Georgia .A. -venue By Mr. DAUGHERTY: A bill (H. R. 27681) for the relief of to Ninth Street NW., through squares 2875 and 2877, and for Ed. P. Ambrose; to the Committee on Claims. other purposes; to the Committee on the District ?f Also, a bill (H. R. 27708) granting a pension to Daniel A. By Mr. DANFORTH: Petition of A. H. Swift, manufacturer l\Ii11ard; to the Committee on Pensions. of gold leaf, of Rochester, N. Y., praying for an increase of duty AJso, a bill (H. R. 27709) to remove the charge of desertion on gold leaf from 35 to 50 cents per 100 leaves, leaf not exceed . against Walter S. Goodrich; to the Committee on Military ing 3i by 3i; to the Committee on Ways and l\feans. Affairs. · Also, petition of the Schlegal Manufacturing Co., Rochester, Also, a bill (H. R. 27710) to remove the charge of desertion N. Y., protesting against a reduction in the rate of duty on coach from the military record of Peter S. Beauchamp; to the Com lace; to the Committee on Ways and Means. _ mittee on Military Affairs. By Mr. ESCH: Petition of the general executive committee By Mr. RUBEY: A bill (H. R. 27711) granting a pension to of the Railway Business Association, favoring the passage of Aaron Walker; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. legislation granting a Federal charter to the Chamber of Com Also, a bill (H. R. 27712) granting a pension to Rebecca merce of the United States of America; to the Committee on the Rapalyea ; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Judiciary. By Mr. SCULLY: A bill (H. R. 27713) granting an increase of Also, petition of ·the Association of National Advertising pension to Annie Conroy; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Managers, New York;, protesting against the passage.of the Old By Mr. SHERWOOD: A bill (H. R. 27714) granting an in field patent bill, preventing the fixing of prices by the manu crease of pension to Edwara Gifford; to the Committee on In factmers of patent goods; to the Committee on Patents. valid Pensions. By lli. FITZGERALD: Petition of the board of directors of By l\Ir. STONE: A bill (II. R. 27715) granting an increase of the New York Oivic League, favoring the passage of legislation pension to John L. Beck; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. preventing the shipment of liquor into dry territory; to the Com· AJso, a bill (H. R. 27716) granting an increase of pension to mittee on the Judiciary. James McCormick; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. AJso, petition of the Federation of Jewish Farmers of By l\Ir. TAGGART: A bill (H. R. 27717) granting an increase America, favoring the passage of legislation establishing a sys of pension to Sylvania Collins; to the Committee on Invalid tem of farmers' credit unions; to the Committee on Banking and Pensions. Currency. By Mr. TAYLOR of Colorado: A bill (H. B. 27718) granting By Mr. FORNES: Petition of Kenyon & Kenyon, New York, an increase of pension to Sarah F. Meade; to the Committee on N. Y., favoring the passage of House bill 26277, for creating a Invalid Pensions. United States court of patent appeals; to the Committee on the By Mr. THOMAS: A. bill (H. R. 27719) for the relief of J. Judiciary. \ViH iliv-r!:~m- c.nil ti:Ieestate of Clarissa H. Morton, deceased; to Also, petition of the Garvin Machine Co., New York, N. Y., the Committee on War Claims. protesting against the placing of machine tools on the free list; By Mr. WHITACRE: A bill (H. R. 27720) granting an in to the Committee on. Ways and Means. crease of pension to Daniel Ruff; to the Committee on Invalid Also, petition of the New York Produce Exchange, New York, Pensions. N. Y.; and the Rqilway Business Association, New York, N. Y., By Mr. WHITE: A bill '(H. R. 27721) granting a pension to favoring the passage of House bill 25106, granting a federal Ida l\I. Gleaves; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. charter to the Chamber of Commerce of the United States of America; to the Committee on the Judiciary. Also, petition of the Mariani Co., New York, N. Y., favoring PETITIONS, ETC. the passage of legislation creating an advisory tariff board; to Under clause 1 of Rule L""(II, petitions and papers were laid the Committee on Ways and Means. on the Clerk's de k and referred as follows : Also, petition of the Association of National Advertising Man agers of New York, protesting against the passage of House bill By Mr. ~~SBERRY: Petition of Chistopher Fickbeiner, Toledo, Ohio, favoring the passage of House bill 1339, granting 23417, prohibiting the fixing of prices by the manufacturers of an increase of pension to veterans who lost an arm or leg in patent goods; to the Committee on Patents. the Civil War; to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. Also, petition of the Grain Dealers' Association, favoring the Al o, petition of the Chilton Co., Philadelphia, Pa., .favoring passage of Senate bill 957, for the regulation of bills of lading; the passage of the section of the Pos.t Office appropriation bill to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. requiring the statement of circulation of all publications under Also, petition of the Grain Dealers' Nationa·l Association, Go,ernment supervision; to the Committee on the Post Office favoring the passage of House bill 3010, for the regulation of the telephone and telegraph service; to the Committee on Inter and Post Roads. state and Foreign Commerce. Also, petition of John T. Mack and other representatives of Also, petition of the Brooklyn League, Brooklyn, N. Y., favor the Ohio Daily Newspapers Association, asking for the repeal ing the passage of bill for the relocation of the 13ierhead line in of the publicity section of the Post Office appropriation bill; to the Hudson River between Pier 1 and West Thirtieth Street; to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Roads. the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also, petition of Pine Bluff Lodge, No. 305, Brotherhood of By Mr. FULLER: "!!etition of William McLeod, Hemlock, Railroad Trainmen, protesting against the passage of the work N. Y., favoring the p:issage of House bill 1339, to increase the men's compensation bill; to the Committee on the Judiciary. pension of veterans who lost an arm or leg in the Civil War; Also, petition of E. B. Opelycke, Bryan, Ohio, favoring the to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. pas age of the Kenyon "red-light" injunction bill to clean up By Mr. HARRISON of New York: Petition of William Hous Washington for the inauguration; to the Committee on the ton Kenyon and other citizens of New York and Brooklyn, District of Columbia. favoring the passage of House bill 26277, establishing a United Also, petition of the local chapter of the Socialist Party of States court of patent appeals; to the Committee on the Judi· Newark, N. J., favoring a congressional investigation of the ciary. prosecution by the Government of the Appeal to Reason; to By Mr. KINKAID of Nebraska : Petition of residents of 20 the Committee on the Judiciary. towns of the sixth district of Nebraska, favoring the passage AJso, petition of l\Ioore & Mead and 2 other me!'chants of of legislation making it possible to compel all concerns selling Coshocton, Ohio, favoring the passage of legislation ghing the goods direct to consumers entirely by mail to contribute their Interstate Commerce Commission further power toward control portion of the funds to the development of the local community, ling the express companies; to the Committee on Interstate and the county, and the State; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Foreign Commerce. By l\fr. AYRES: Petition of the North Side Board of Trade, Also, petition of citizens of Oshkosh, Nebr., favoring the pas favoring the passage of House bill 26677, providing for the re sage of House bill 4043, preventing the shipping of liquor into location of the pierhead line in the Hudson River between Pier dry territory; to the Committee on the Judiciary. 1 and West Thirtieth Street; to the Committee on Interstate By l\Ir. LEE of· Pennsylvania : Petition of the Pennsylvania and Foreign Commerce. Sealers' Conference, Harrisburg, Pa., favoring the passage of By l\fr. BARCHFE.LD : Papers to accompany bill granting an House bill 23113, fixing a standard barrel for fruits, vegetables, increase of pension to George W. Haney; to the Committee on etc.; to the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. Invalid Pensions. By Mr. NORRIS: Petition of citizens of Dundy County and By M.r. CANNON: Petition of C. J. Laverenz, Danville, Ill., other citizens of Nebraska; the Nazarene Church of Hastings, and the citizens of Chisman, Ill., favoring the passage of House Nebr. ; the First Presbyterian Church; the First Congregational bill 4043, preventing the shipment of liquor into dry territory; Church; the Federation of Churches; and the First Baptist to the Committee on the Judiciary. Church, Hastings, Nebr., favoring the passage of the Kenyon- • CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 'J ANUARY 4, 1913~ Sheppard liquor bill preventing the shipment of liquor into dry o:ffi~als of the New York, New HaYen & Hartford Railroad Co.; territory; to the Committee on the .Judiciary. to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Also, petition of citizens of Geneva, Nebr., favoring the pas Also, petition "of the Pennsylvania Sealers' ·Conference, favor sage of the Kenyon "red-light" bill to clean up Washington ing the passage of House bill 23113, fixing f\ standard barrel for for the inauguration; to the Committee on the District of Co fruits, vegetables, etc.; to the Committee on Coinage, Weights, lumbia. and .Measures. By l\Ir. REYBURN: Petition of Pennsylvania Sealers' Con Also, petition of the New London Business Men's Association, ference, Harrisbmg, Pa., favoring the passage of House bill New London, Conn., protesting against the passage of the pro 23113, fixing a standard barrel for fruits, vegetables, etc.; to vision contained in the sundry civil bill stopping the appoint the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. ment of any more cadets or cadet engineers in the Revenue Al o, petition of the Philadelphia Board of Trade, reaffirming Cutter Service unless authorized by Congress; to the Com its belief in a perman~nt tariff commission; to the Committee mittee on Naval Affairs. on Ways and· Means. By 1i'Ir. STEPHENS of California: ·Petition of the Afternoon Also, petition of the general executive committee- of the Rail Club of Alhambra, Cal, protesting ugainst the passage of any, way Business Association, favoring the passage of House bill legislation tending to interfere with the present national system 2510G, granting a Federal charter to the Chamber of Commerce of protecting the forests; to the Committee on Agriculture. of the United States; to the Committee on the ~udiciary. . By Mr. THOM.AS : Papers to accompany bill for the relief By 1\Ir. REILLY~ Petition of the general executive committee of .J. Will Morton and the estate of Clarissa H. Morton; to the of the Railway Business Association, favoring the passage of Committee on War Claims. House bill 25106, for the incorporation of the Chamber of Com- · By l\Ir. TILSON: Petition of the Chamber of Commerce of merce of the United States of America; to the Committee on New Haven, Conn., expressing their confidence in the integrity the Judiciary. of the officials of the New York, New Haven & Hartford Rail Also, petition of the Board of Agriculture of the State of road Co. ; to the Committee on Interstate and Foreign Commerce. Connecticut, protesting against the passage of any legislation By l\!r. WICKERSHAM: Petition of resident fishermen at reducing the present tax on oleomargarine; to the Committee Ketchikan, Alaska, favoring the passage of legislation prevent on .Agriculture. ing the setting of fish traps in the tidal waters of Alaska; to Al o, petition of the Association of National Advertising the -Committee on the Territories. Managers of New York, protesting against the pas age of section ' By ~Ir. WILLIS: Petition of John T. !\'Iuc. Q.tb.e.i:..~.p1-.e- ._ 2 of the Oldfield patent bill, prohibiting the fixing of prices by sentatives of the Ohio. Daily· Newspaper Association, asking -.. -- the manufacturers of patent goods; to the Committee on Patents. for the repeal of the publicity section of the Post Office appro- Al'-'O, petition of the New Haven Chamber of Commerce, New priation bill; to the Committee on the Post Office and Post Raven, Conn .• expre sing their belief in the. integrity of the Roads. . . <_ I\ 1 l